| --- | Log | opened Sun Mar 21 00:00:21 2010 |
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| 00:35 | <captain> | hi everyone |
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| 00:35 | <sney> | hi |
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| 00:37 | <captain> | does anyone here know where to find the previous version of a debian package in testing after a newer version comes out? |
| 00:37 | <captain> | they seem to be wiped from the mirrors |
| 00:37 | <captain> | surely they're kept somewhere... |
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| 00:38 | <sney> | your system will keep them in /var/cache/apt/archives usually, unless you've been running apt-get clean |
| 00:38 | <sney> | but generally the mirrors don't keep older versions, they have enough space constraints as it is |
| 00:38 | <captain> | i thought so too... but they're not in there :( ... must be some cron job cleaning up old stuff in there periodically |
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| 00:40 | <captain> | hmm... sney, are they kept *somewhere*? some dusty archive server somewhere with a dialup connection? lol |
| 00:41 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell captain -about sdo |
| 00:41 | <sney> | oh, learn something new every day. thanks gsimmons. |
| 00:43 | <captain> | wowie! :) there it is! :) |
| 00:43 | <captain> | gsimmons, i'm assuming simmons is your last name, and your first name starts with a g, right? |
| 00:44 | <sney> | captain: of course, if you were having some kind of issue with a new version of a package in squeeze, you should also file a bug report if one does not already exist. |
| 00:44 | <captain> | greg? geoff?... i need to know, cause i'm about to name my first born after you :P |
| 00:45 | <captain> | sney, i'm not sure i'll call it an "issue", per se... drupal 6 and php 5.3 aren't quite fully compatible with one another yet... |
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| 00:46 | <captain> | i'm guessing it'd be one of those things filed under "you're running testing ... go cry about it" :P |
| 00:46 | <captain> | gsimmons, i was kidding about the name thing, don't worry... hehe. jokes aside, thanks a lot!! :) |
| 00:47 | <captain> | and sney, thank you for the suggestion too |
| 00:47 | <captain> | wish me luck guys |
| 00:47 | <captain> | i hope this doesn't throw me into dependency hell :-/ |
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| 00:57 | <matu> | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x14qw6_les-inconnus-arret-culture_fun |
| 00:57 | <matu> | oops sorry |
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| 00:58 | <captain> | lol wtf? |
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| 01:03 | <captain> | wow... the word awesome doesn't even begin to describe that snapshot site... |
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| 01:09 | <captain> | k bye all |
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| 01:15 | <uboat> | I'm using gnome, how can I change the fonts of GDM? |
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| 01:15 | <Guest1708> | where r those conf files? I tried some in /etc/fonts/.... but it did not work |
| 01:18 | <AIntel> | Question: To play a file, is this command right? mplayer /mplayer /home/user/desktop/taken.avi |
| 01:18 | <franki^> | AIntel: Yes |
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| 01:34 | <franki^> | AIntel: Heh, I misread, uhh, no, just "mplayer /path/to/file" will do it :P |
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| 01:49 | <AIntel> | Question: Whats the command to get DivX? |
| 01:50 | <derric> | In your file associations you could set *.avi to be opened with mplayer |
| 01:50 | <AIntel> | derric: How? |
| 01:51 | <derric> | Good question, let's see if we can figure it out... |
| 01:51 | <derric> | you have a file explorer right? |
| 01:51 | <adb> | right click, 'open with ...' |
| 01:51 | <derric> | Yep, that's it. |
| 01:52 | <derric> | Then select /usr/bin/mplayer or /usr/local/bin/mplayer |
| 01:52 | <derric> | Where ever it happens to be |
| 01:53 | <derric> | I gotta go sleepy... |
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| 01:53 | <AIntel> | It gave me the option to open with mplayer. But when I selected it it gave me a Fatal error!, Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. |
| 01:55 | <AIntel> | Oh. I clicked ókay, and sound is playing. no video. |
| 01:56 | <AIntel> | Okay. Iĺl deal with it tomorrow. Good night. |
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| 02:00 | <adb> | AntIntel, right click on mplayer window,> Preferences> Video , and chose xv > click OK |
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| 02:11 | <knoppix_> | ABBA |
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| 02:29 | <arpit> | h |
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| 02:30 | <dav> | does xserver-xorg-video-intel should support Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller including 3D acceleration? |
| 02:30 | <dav> | *sorry for bad grammer |
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| 03:31 | <multiverse72> | hi guys, how do I get intel's equivalent of nvidia-settings? my screen is burning my eyes... |
| 03:32 | <dav> | multiverse72, probably you should check nvidia wiki for debian |
| 03:34 | <multiverse72> | dav, I want to change my screen contrast. I'm using an intel gma.. netbook btw. |
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| 03:34 | <dav> | contrasts usually can be changed through function keys |
| 03:35 | <GhostlyDeath> | My debian squeeze system has 419 ssh-agents running, is there any purpose for this? |
| 03:35 | <GhostlyDeath> | and rising |
| 03:35 | <GhostlyDeath> | in fact |
| 03:35 | <GhostlyDeath> | ssh-agent is leaking processes |
| 03:35 | <GhostlyDeath> | a few seconds later a few more pop up |
| 03:35 | <multiverse72> | mine doesn't have one, just brightness. :( |
| 03:36 | <GhostlyDeath> | Right now 1040 or so processes are running |
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| 03:41 | <Guest1719> | hello |
| 03:41 | <GhostlyDeath> | stevendrone:/home/steven# pidof ssh-agent | wc 1 423 2326 |
| 03:41 | <GhostlyDeath> | how bad it is |
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| 03:41 | <gdb> | What's the parent process? |
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| 03:43 | <GhostlyDeath> | gdb: init |
| 03:43 | <GhostlyDeath> | takes a few minutes to do a pstree |
| 03:45 | <gorthaug> | hi, i've a problem with compiz in debian squeeze (amd64), i'm trying to enable the plugin "switch app ring" and y get this http://pastebin.com/KAgZLR5A in the terminal console, same with "Animation" and others plugins.. can anybody help me? |
| 03:47 | <GhostlyDeath> | gdb: I only noticed this when I recently installed munin |
| 03:47 | <GhostlyDeath> | whiched showed the abnormally high and growing process count |
| 03:47 | <GhostlyDeath> | should be at around 250 but was instead at 1060 |
| 03:49 | <GhostlyDeath> | tons of sshg-agents became zombies and such |
| 03:49 | <GhostlyDeath> | Of all the ssh-agents, half were zombies |
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| 03:51 | <multiverse72> | found it! it doesn't change the screen contrast, but xgamma makes it less eye-straining. |
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| 04:08 | <Nick-> | hey, i keep getting this error sky2 eth0 :tx timeout <- wondering if there was a fix to it? |
| 04:08 | <azeem_> | Nick-: cable/wiring issue maybe? |
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| 04:08 | <gdb> | GhostlyDeath: Your issue is ironic considering what Munin is for. ,-) |
| 04:09 | <gdb> | Munin is a networked resource monitoring tool that can help analyze resource trends and "what just happened to kill our performance?" problems. |
| 04:09 | <Nick-> | tryed, differnt cables.. |
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| 04:20 | <chiku> | hello |
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| 04:21 | <chiku> | is squeeze already frozen ? |
| 04:22 | <azeem_> | no |
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| 04:28 | <overddose> | how can i open or run something with the extension .run? |
| 04:29 | <amitz> | overddose: makes it executable. run using what? bash? sh? |
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| 04:30 | <petemc> | sh foo.run |
| 04:30 | <amitz> | on those, without editing, type ./<appname.run> |
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| 04:30 | <overddose> | :D |
| 04:31 | <overddose> | tried, says permission denied... |
| 04:31 | <overddose> | as root. |
| 04:32 | <Nemoder> | chmod a+x foo.run; ./foo.run |
| 04:32 | <captain> | overddose, you spelled your name wrong ;)... i guess it comes with the overdose :P |
| 04:32 | <overddose> | lol |
| 04:33 | <overddose> | nemoder, that did it, thanks |
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| 04:58 | <bmwmunda> | hi all |
| 05:00 | <bmwmunda> | im running debian lenny 2.6.26-2-686 for server is this a old lenny system |
| 05:00 | <petemc> | no |
| 05:00 | <weasel> | "maybe" |
| 05:01 | <petemc> | nor not necessarily |
| 05:01 | <weasel> | bmwmunda: what does uname -a show? |
| 05:01 | <overddose> | what is the latest version of x11? |
| 05:02 | <bmwmunda> | my probelm is im thinking if i went with newer distro maybe my drivers for serial port with load automatically |
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| 05:02 | <weasel> | um |
| 05:02 | <k-man> | im having trouble getting my radeon card to do tv-out |
| 05:02 | <weasel> | bmwmunda: you know which modules you need, and they work? |
| 05:02 | <weasel> | bmwmunda: if so, just add them to /etc/modules |
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| 05:03 | <bmwmunda> | i dont no |
| 05:04 | <overddose> | i just installed this framework, and anything i try to run from it returns that it cant execute it, i had to install it by chmod a-x |
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| 05:04 | <bmwmunda> | what does the 686 stand for |
| 05:04 | <k-man> | at boot time, it correctly mirrors the normal monitor output, but after startx, it fails to show anything, and the monitor also fails, with "out of range" |
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| 05:04 | <k-man> | when i startx, i get this message: Unhandled monitor type 0 |
| 05:05 | <bmwmunda> | what is the latest linux from lenny for pentium 4 chip |
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| 05:06 | <overddose> | bmwmunda: 5.0 lenny |
| 05:06 | <overddose> | or 5.0.4 |
| 05:07 | <bmwmunda> | were can one download it |
| 05:07 | <bmwmunda> | will it work same as this one for server headless |
| 05:07 | <bmwmunda> | on pentium 4 intel chip |
| 05:08 | <overddose> | yes |
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| 05:09 | <bmwmunda> | were can i get it to try and see if my driver will load up on install |
| 05:09 | <overddose> | go and install the kernel |
| 05:10 | <overddose> | if you added the repository, you can install the kernel through apt |
| 05:10 | <bmwmunda> | how |
| 05:10 | <bmwmunda> | first step is what |
| 05:11 | <overddose> | find the exact kernel version you want |
| 05:13 | <bmwmunda> | what u mean by exact are diff one made for diff needs |
| 05:13 | <weasel> | what do you mean with "my driver" anyway |
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| 05:14 | <overddose> | weasel, what is the most current stable kernel for 686? |
| 05:14 | <weasel> | overddose: that's an easy one. |
| 05:14 | <weasel> | "it depends" |
| 05:15 | <bmwmunda> | ok my problem is i have a add on card 4 port serial comport the manufature stated it works on linux and will load auto but it does not |
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| 05:16 | <weasel> | on lenny, 2.6.26-something, in testing and sid 2.6.32, from linus 2.6.27.45, 2.6.30.10, .31.12, .32.10, .33.1 |
| 05:16 | <bmwmunda> | so im thinking maybe try another stable kernel thats is more current |
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| 05:16 | <overddose> | wait |
| 05:16 | <weasel> | bmwmunda: what makes you think it does not 'auto-load'? |
| 05:16 | <overddose> | i have the most stable lenny |
| 05:16 | <weasel> | bmwmunda: what do you expect to see and what do you see? |
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| 05:16 | <bmwmunda> | it does not show tty0 ports |
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| 05:17 | <weasel> | tty0 is not what you are looking for. |
| 05:17 | <overddose> | yeah, i was gonna say... |
| 05:17 | <bmwmunda> | was 2.6.2-2-686 maade for intel chips only |
| 05:17 | <weasel> | *sigh* |
| 05:17 | <weasel> | no. |
| 05:17 | <bmwmunda> | hehehe |
| 05:18 | <weasel> | ls /dev/ttyS* |
| 05:18 | <bmwmunda> | sorry dam board ebrything else works fin on this machine but this dam baord |
| 05:18 | <valdyn> | !which driver |
| 05:18 | <dpkg> | To work out what module you need to load for your PCI card, try pasting the output from "lspci -n" into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ . To determine the driver currently associated with an Ethernet interface, ask me about <which ethernet module>. To show the video driver used by your X server: grep Load.*mod.*driv /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 05:18 | <bmwmunda> | ok |
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| 05:20 | <overddose> | ugh, i cant figure out why this wont let me run this console |
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| 05:22 | <overddose> | what can i do if the terminal shortcut is trying to open the wrong file? |
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| 05:22 | <overddose> | its opening a ruby shell instead of the console like i need it to. |
| 05:22 | <kijkdus> | :? kernel msg: b1 on nmi - does anybody know ? |
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| 05:23 | <bmwmunda> | dev/ttyS0 dev/ttyS1 dev/ttyS2 dev/ttyS3 |
| 05:24 | <overddose> | its showing up fine... |
| 05:24 | <kijkdus> | this : |
| 05:24 | <kijkdus> | [ 0.195420] Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason b1 on CPU 0. |
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| 05:25 | <k-man> | how do i tell if i'm using the free radeon driver for xorg? |
| 05:26 | <bmwmunda> | no u see i have 2 on the mother board they show up my add on serial comport board has 4 ports |
| 05:27 | <bmwmunda> | so total should be 6 |
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| 05:28 | <kijkdus> | bmwmunda: not replacing existing serial ports - check irq/adr |
| 05:28 | <malaphus> | Im installing debian on my macbook |
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| 05:29 | <malaphus> | I told it to use the MBR, apparantly that was the wrong choice |
| 05:29 | <malaphus> | (grub) |
| 05:29 | <overddose> | no. |
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| 05:29 | <malaphus> | So how can I get this thing to boot to grub? |
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| 05:30 | <cesurasean> | can someone explain what this means to me? - # Syslog facility to use if you're logging to syslog. |
| 05:30 | <kijkdus> | logging to systems logging |
| 05:30 | <kijkdus> | /var/log |
| 05:30 | <overddose> | well you have to set your partitions under grub, then make grub the primary boot menu. |
| 05:30 | <cesurasean> | #syslog_facility = mail |
| 05:30 | <cesurasean> | what does this do exactly? |
| 05:30 | <kijkdus> | /var/log/mail ? |
| 05:31 | <malaphus> | I set my partitions under grub |
| 05:31 | <bmwmunda> | anyways i will go at it again tomrrow to tired goog nite all and thanks for the help |
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| 05:31 | <malaphus> | when the macbook rebooted, it says "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key" |
| 05:31 | <kijkdus> | can you enter bios? |
| 05:31 | <malaphus> | mac has no bios |
| 05:32 | <overddose> | i thought macs had a bios... |
| 05:32 | <malaphus> | they use to |
| 05:32 | <overddose> | they should. |
| 05:32 | <malaphus> | but now they dont |
| 05:32 | <malaphus> | nah, macs use EFI |
| 05:32 | <overddose> | fuck that efi stuff. |
| 05:32 | <malaphus> | there is no bios |
| 05:32 | <overddose> | pointless and annoying. |
| 05:32 | <overddose> | are you trying to dual boot? |
| 05:33 | <overddose> | try fixmbr |
| 05:33 | <overddose> | !fixmbr |
| 05:33 | <dpkg> | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 05:34 | <kijkdus> | !sadomachogism |
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| 05:34 | <overddose> | !sadomasochism |
| 05:34 | <ml|> | cesurasean: man syslog |
| 05:34 | <kijkdus> | macho< |
| 05:35 | <overddose> | damn you... |
| 05:35 | <malaphus> | ok so |
| 05:35 | <malaphus> | im booting to rescue mode |
| 05:35 | <cesurasean> | i can connect to dovecot through my client, and through squirrelmail, but it doesn't seem i have any new mail. here is my syslog of the email program, but nothing seems wrong. where are my emails going?! - http://pastebin.com/jKBVGd99 |
| 05:36 | <overddose> | cesurasean: is there a refresh rate on those clients? |
| 05:36 | <cesurasean> | overddose, what do you mean by refresh rate on the clients? no? |
| 05:36 | <malaphus> | I cant rememmber which device was root |
| 05:36 | <malaphus> | I used guided partitioned |
| 05:37 | <malaphus> | seperate everything |
| 05:37 | <malaphus> | what number would root be? |
| 05:37 | <overddose> | 0 |
| 05:37 | <overddose> | usually |
| 05:37 | <malaphus> | sda1, sda2, sda3, sda4, sda5, sda6 |
| 05:37 | <malaphus> | sda1? |
| 05:38 | <overddose> | i would try that |
| 05:38 | <overddose> | wait |
| 05:38 | <overddose> | is this on a macbook? |
| 05:38 | <cesurasean> | can somebody PLEASE help me fix this dovecot. ive had it working before, and im not sure what the problem is now.... |
| 05:38 | <malaphus> | ok, im at a prompt |
| 05:38 | <overddose> | cesurasean: what did you change? |
| 05:38 | <malaphus> | so what do I do? |
| 05:39 | <overddose> | mount your root device |
| 05:39 | <cesurasean> | who knows! |
| 05:39 | <cesurasean> | how do i troubleshoot this? |
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| 05:39 | <overddose> | you can always reinstall the package... |
| 05:39 | <cesurasean> | overddose, ive done that already. |
| 05:40 | <overddose> | gone through any major network changes lately? |
| 05:40 | <overddose> | or restart your modem or router or gateway... |
| 05:40 | <overddose> | certain pop settings get reset like that |
| 05:40 | <cesurasean> | Sorry, I couldn't find any host named server. (#5.1.2) |
| 05:40 | <cesurasean> | im getting this response back from the server. how do i fix this? |
| 05:41 | <overddose> | host named server... |
| 05:41 | <malaphus> | where do I install grub on an EFI system? |
| 05:41 | <overddose> | check where your server is being put in |
| 05:41 | <cesurasean> | vi /etc/mailname has to be the same as /etc/hostname? |
| 05:41 | <cesurasean> | overddose, shut up. you are not helping me one bit, dude. |
| 05:41 | <cesurasean> | quit wasting people's time. |
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| 05:42 | <overddose> | umad. |
| 05:42 | <overddose> | malaphus, efi still has an mbr, but im not sure where it would go, never really done anything with a macbook yet |
| 05:42 | <overddose> | although i have one laying around here somewhere... |
| 05:43 | <kijkdus> | host named server - provides names: dns |
| 05:43 | <kijkdus> | dns server (afaik) |
| 05:43 | <ml|> | malaphus: have looked at the wiki? if not /msg dpkg macbook |
| 05:45 | <overddose> | malaphus, do you know where the original efi mbr was located specifically? |
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| 05:45 | <cesurasean> | yay all fixed |
| 05:45 | <ruben> | rubensxuuu |
| 05:46 | <malaphus> | how can I ftp from rescue prompt |
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| 05:46 | <ruben> | hola!!!! |
| 05:46 | <overddose> | cant, afaik |
| 05:46 | <overddose> | welcome ruben :3 |
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| 05:46 | <ruben> | hellow |
| 05:46 | <ruben> | there is any spanish here??? |
| 05:47 | <overddose> | ruben: no |
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| 05:47 | <overddose> | !spanish |
| 05:47 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:48 | <malaphus> | overddose: you can, wtf |
| 05:48 | <malaphus> | why are you telling me things that are not true, lol |
| 05:48 | <overddose> | well, i mean...there is, but there will be much more help in that section than here. |
| 05:49 | <kijkdus> | EFI/Wiki - no MBR on EFI systems ? |
| 05:49 | <malaphus> | when somebody asks a question and you reply with an answer, people expect that answer to be truth, you are just spouting out random things |
| 05:50 | <overddose> | ... |
| 05:50 | <overddose> | right. |
| 05:52 | <overddose> | malaphus: what firmware update does your efi have? |
| 05:53 | <malaphus> | how would I determine that |
| 05:53 | <overddose> | hold Command-Option-P-R for 2 chimes. |
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| 05:55 | <skynorton> | Hello! |
| 05:56 | <malaphus> | anybody else know? |
| 05:57 | <skynorton> | malaphus: whats your problem? |
| 05:57 | <ml|> | malaphus: did you read what I suggested? |
| 05:57 | <malaphus> | I have a macbook pro, intel |
| 05:57 | <malaphus> | I want to boot debian |
| 05:57 | <malaphus> | how? |
| 05:57 | <malaphus> | ml|: no sorry, can you repeat? |
| 05:57 | <skynorton> | did you try refit? |
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| 05:58 | <malaphus> | how can I install refit with no OS? |
| 05:58 | <malaphus> | rescue mode? |
| 05:58 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell malaphus about macbook |
| 05:58 | <skynorton> | do you have osx on it atm? |
| 05:58 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell malaphus about macbookpro |
| 05:58 | <malaphus> | nope |
| 05:58 | <skynorton> | its partitioned right? |
| 05:59 | <skynorton> | this might help actually, http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Doubleboot-MacOSX.26Debian |
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| 05:59 | <ml|> | malaphus: read the messages dpkg sent you |
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| 05:59 | <skynorton> | macbooks have an efi right? |
| 05:59 | -!- | user is now known as Guest1729 |
| 06:00 | <malaphus> | yes |
| 06:00 | <skynorton> | which means it uses gpt as a mac mbr |
| 06:00 | <skynorton> | do you want to use grub? |
| 06:00 | <malaphus> | yes |
| 06:00 | <malaphus> | so I need to repartition and make room for an efi partition/ |
| 06:01 | <skynorton> | you have to go through and make a mbr/gpt hybrid from refit or gptsync :/ |
| 06:01 | <skynorton> | the information is in that link up there ^^ |
| 06:01 | <kijkdus> | .ack. |
| 06:01 | * | kijkdus will *sigh off* - thanks and goodbye |
| 06:01 | <kijkdus> | :D |
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| 06:02 | <kijkdus> | h.a.n.d |
| 06:02 | <skynorton> | <3 |
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| 06:10 | <Hakk1tus_> | i have tried with nx and vnc to get remote desktop to work but with out any of luck |
| 06:12 | <ttg_> | Hakk1tus_ use ssh |
| 06:12 | <Hakk1tus_> | can it be possible that gnome could be corrupted somehow and thats why if i connect remotely it won't let me usa any dropdown menus on quick launch icons |
| 06:14 | <ml|> | Hakk1tus_: did you try removing the config file for nx and starting over? |
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| 06:15 | <Hakk1tus_> | yeah |
| 06:15 | <Hakk1tus_> | i also tried with vnc |
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| 06:16 | <Hakk1tus_> | but that do exact same what nx do so problem is not vnc or nx |
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| 06:17 | <ml|> | try to remember what you did differently this time or what you did before when it was working |
| 06:19 | <malaphus> | im at the stage where I partition mac, I see no "UNIX Filesystem" option in the dropdownm |
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| 06:24 | <goor> | here is goor |
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| 06:25 | <Hakk1tus_> | that was different distro last time and hardware was different |
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| 06:26 | <Hakk1tus_> | but i'm going to get that back just next to me so i can easy access on it. :D |
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| 06:27 | <Hakk1tus_> | and after that when found fix for that i put it back to garage |
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| 06:27 | <Hakk1tus_> | :D |
| 06:27 | <ml|> | good luck |
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| 06:28 | <vfaronov> | hi, is there a quick way to tell if a particular file is a conffile (in the dpkg sense)? on lenny |
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| 06:34 | <themill> | vfaronov: you can always: grep "^/path/to/file$" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.conffiles |
| 06:35 | <vfaronov> | themill: great! thanks |
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| 06:38 | <Cote> | debian-es |
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| 07:13 | <david> | hi |
| 07:13 | <david> | hola |
| 07:13 | <k-man> | hi david |
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| 07:13 | <Guest1734> | hola-man |
| 07:14 | <themill> | !ubuntu-es Guest1734 |
| 07:14 | <dpkg> | Guest1734: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
| 07:15 | <Guest1734> | i from spain |
| 07:15 | <Guest1734> | and you |
| 07:15 | <Guest1734> | hi |
| 07:15 | <Guest1734> | come |
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| 07:16 | <Guest1734> | hi |
| 07:16 | <Guest1734> | hola |
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| 07:21 | <Jack> | hi |
| 07:21 | <Jack> | quest eres español? |
| 07:21 | <Jack> | a se fue |
| 07:21 | <muzy> | !social-es |
| 07:21 | <muzy> | !es |
| 07:21 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 07:22 | <muzy> | !ubuntu-es Jack |
| 07:22 | <dpkg> | Jack: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
| 07:22 | <Jack> | hi im spanish |
| 07:23 | <dr|z3d> | !es |
| 07:23 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 07:26 | <Er> | oLaaaa |
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| 07:27 | <Guest1735> | ola |
| 07:27 | <Er> | komo estaaa |
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| 07:27 | <Er> | olaaaaaaaaa |
| 07:27 | <Er> | olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 07:28 | <@Ganneff> | !es |
| 07:28 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 07:28 | <Er> | de onde esss |
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| 07:30 | <muzy> | does anyone know whether the Debian XChat has the same "Version" header? |
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| 07:33 | <k-man> | how do i prevent gdm from starting at boot time? |
| 07:34 | <dr|z3d> | k-man: use bum. aptitude install bum |
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| 07:34 | <dr|z3d> | (bootup manager) -> service management ui. |
| 07:35 | <k-man> | bum? |
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| 07:35 | <k-man> | oh, ok, i thought you were being rude |
| 07:35 | <dr|z3d> | I'd have said aptitude isntall yoass in that case :) |
| 07:36 | <k-man> | :) |
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| 07:55 | <jez9999> | hi |
| 07:56 | <jez9999> | I just did a major upgrade of my squeeze install |
| 07:56 | <jez9999> | stuff seems to be working except my NAT has broken |
| 07:56 | <jez9999> | no idea why, /etc/network/interfaces and iptables havent changed and seem OK |
| 07:57 | <jez9999> | my other network box can ping this one, but nothing is getting through from it to the internet |
| 07:57 | <malaphus> | So im at the stage where I choose to install grub on the MBR, its a macbook pro, intel, I have Refit loaded |
| 07:58 | <jez9999> | why could this be? |
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| 07:59 | <malaphus> | are you sure it isnt a DNS issue? |
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| 08:01 | <jez9999> | malaphus: : yes, i can access stuff fine from this machine |
| 08:01 | <jez9999> | and i cant ping my server by IP from my NATted box |
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| 08:06 | <usuario> | hola |
| 08:07 | <jez9999> | this is what i am running in my rc.local script to try and get NAT working: http://pastebin.com/rwts8ZAj |
| 08:07 | <jez9999> | can anyone see anything wrong? |
| 08:07 | <usuario> | me entendeis? |
| 08:07 | <themill> | !ubuntu-es usuario |
| 08:07 | <dpkg> | usuario: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
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| 08:07 | <usuario> | eso que es? |
| 08:08 | <usuario> | hablais español?¿ |
| 08:08 | <noflash> | !es |
| 08:08 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 08:19 | <twwynz> | olaaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 08:21 | <ema> | ola |
| 08:21 | <ema> | ola |
| 08:22 | <ema> | olA |
| 08:22 | <dr|z3d> | !es |
| 08:22 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 08:22 | <themill> | !ubuntu-es ema |
| 08:22 | <dpkg> | ema: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
| 08:22 | <ema> | OLA |
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| 08:22 | <dr|z3d> | Ola off! |
| 08:23 | <chilan> | muzy, this is xchat from squeeze |
| 08:24 | <muzy> | was it !social-es or !es-social? |
| 08:24 | <themill> | the latter |
| 08:24 | <muzy> | I think there was such a command |
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| 08:32 | <ema> | ola |
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| 08:32 | <ema> | ola |
| 08:32 | <ema> | no |
| 08:32 | <ema> | se marchol |
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| 08:33 | <ema> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 08:33 | <ema> | ola |
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| 08:40 | <jez9999> | Has Debian introduced a mechanism yet to catch all log messages spewed out at bootup? will it ever? |
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| 08:48 | <aguitel> | i am running squeeze and i have not item "printers" in system->preferences |
| 08:48 | <zophy> | do you see 'default printer' |
| 08:49 | <aguitel> | zophy, no |
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| 08:56 | <alexskan> | Hi all, very quick question. What pdf viewer offer the hand icon to let you move around the file page (not to select text). Currently Evince looks like not having this navagation mode. |
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| 08:59 | <alexskan> | none can answer that? |
| 08:59 | <przemoc86> | alexskan: e.g. okular |
| 09:00 | <alexskan> | przemoc86, thanks, is it a light full functionality pdf viewer? |
| 09:01 | <przemoc86> | yes, fully functional. light? it depends. ;) it requires kde libs. |
| 09:01 | <alexskan> | mm kde .. lot of stuff to install with |
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| 09:01 | <alexskan> | przemoc, anything gnome related? |
| 09:01 | <alexskan> | on independent one? |
| 09:02 | <alexskan> | s/on/or |
| 09:02 | <aguitel> | i am running squeeze and i have not item "printers" in system->preferences ,how solve this |
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| 09:02 | <przemoc> | alexskan: you can use middle button for moving the page |
| 09:03 | <przemoc> | but you must obviously know that |
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| 09:03 | <alexskan> | przemoc, great!!! |
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| 09:03 | <rutski> | a friend is asking me for help with this: http://www.rutski89.com/static/Untitled%203.png |
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| 09:03 | <alexskan> | przemoc, thanks for the hint! |
| 09:03 | <rutski> | that's what he gets from running "apt-get install vlc" |
| 09:03 | <rutski> | and it's basically a fresh lenny install |
| 09:04 | <alexskan> | przemoc, how did you know that? |
| 09:04 | <alexskan> | :-) |
| 09:04 | <przemoc> | it's common to use MMB for moving |
| 09:04 | <przemoc> | space is also a good candidate (not in evince though) |
| 09:05 | * | alexskan is googling shotcuts for evince |
| 09:05 | <alexskan> | przemoc, it does it :-) |
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| 09:06 | <przemoc> | unfortunately evince lacks many shortcuts that should be there, but aren't |
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| 09:08 | <przemoc> | rutski: vlc in lenny is in very old version |
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| 09:11 | <vixus> | Hey guys, networkmanager seems to be hanging up booting of debian 5.. is there any way to disable it without having access to the system? |
| 09:11 | <vixus> | might be this issue: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=478099 |
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| 09:12 | <vixus> | i can mount the filesystem, can i take it out of /etc/rc*.d/? |
| 09:15 | <vixus> | or how do i enable syslogd as a tmp fix? |
| 09:15 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell rutski -about bat |
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| 09:17 | <aguitel> | anyone know how install lexmark x1185 in debian ? |
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| 09:26 | <dr|z3d> | aguitel: Look for the ppd, I think that's the filetype you need for the printer defintion.. you should be able to do something with that. |
| 09:27 | <przemoc> | I'm trying to build gdb 7.0.1 from squeeze in lenny, but there is unmet texinfo requirement. installing texinfo will remove many important packages: autoconf automake bison flex gnome-common gtk-doc-tools install-info intltool lsb lsb-core lsb-cxx lsb-desktop lsb-graphics m4 openprinting-ppds-postscript-kyocera. how it can be solved? |
| 09:27 | <aguitel> | dr|z3d, i have no the item "printers " in system-->administration |
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| 09:28 | <aguitel> | dr|z3d, how to add printer ? |
| 09:29 | <dr|z3d> | aguitel: Google around the idea of ppd lexmark linux printer configure. I can't offer specifc advice but try that. |
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| 09:32 | <aguitel> | dr|z3d, but my problem is how to add each printer |
| 09:32 | <aguitel> | dr|z3d, sorry for my english |
| 09:32 | <przemoc> | my bad, I was using some tools from backports and texinfo is also there |
| 09:33 | <aguitel> | i have not the item called "printers" in the menu system |
| 09:34 | <dr|z3d> | Erm.. try foomatic or something. |
| 09:34 | <aguitel> | dr|z3d, install foomatic? |
| 09:34 | <dr|z3d> | apt-cache search foomatic |
| 09:34 | <dr|z3d> | see what useful stuff that spits out.. |
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| 10:00 | <aguitel> | anyone use lexmark x1185 ? |
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| 10:06 | <cockroach> | !anyone |
| 10:06 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 10:10 | <aguitel> | what is the username & password for the site :localhost:631/ ? |
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| 10:13 | <Torsten_W> | aguitel, root and pw for root |
| 10:14 | <babilen> | aguitel: it's the cups web-interface. You can create additional users with lppasswd .. |
| 10:14 | <aguitel> | ok |
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| 10:14 | <john> | h |
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| 10:18 | <aguitel> | Torsten_W, babilen do you know about lexmark x1185 printer? |
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| 10:19 | <Torsten_W> | aguitel, no, but http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting will |
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| 10:20 | <vixus> | oh exciting, i might actually find out what this issue is |
| 10:21 | <babilen> | aguitel: You might be able to find PPDs for your printer - but just check the openprinting website. It'll list your options |
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| 10:21 | <vixus> | where does syslog.d write by default? |
| 10:21 | <ANTONELLA> | hello |
| 10:21 | <aguitel> | babilen, i have the ppd file but the printer is not working |
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| 10:22 | <babilen> | aguitel: So, it's sitting on the couch all day? Do you have any error messages? Something in cups log files? |
| 10:22 | <aguitel> | babilen, i will read |
| 10:22 | <ml|> | aguitel: did you try adding the ppd or just selecting your model from the list? |
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| 10:23 | <aguitel> | ml|, the 2 step |
| 10:23 | <babilen> | aguitel: /var/log/cups/error_log is the place to take a look for example |
| 10:23 | <babilen> | aguitel: Try adding the PPD directly |
| 10:23 | <aguitel> | babilen, ok |
| 10:23 | <ml|> | well them just try adding the ppd |
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| 10:23 | <ml|> | *then |
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| 10:24 | <ml|> | thankfully cups is not that hard to setup; or maybe I'm lucky ;) |
| 10:25 | <ANTONELLA> | you can speak spain |
| 10:25 | <babilen> | !es-social ANTONELLA |
| 10:25 | <dpkg> | ANTONELLA: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 10:26 | <ml|> | !ubuntu-es ANTONELLA |
| 10:26 | <dpkg> | ANTONELLA: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
| 10:26 | <ANTONELLA> | esque me aburro |
| 10:26 | <ml|> | babilen: btw, he is using ubuntu |
| 10:26 | <babilen> | ml|: What else? We need a "ubuntu-social" factoid that points to "ubuntu-es-offtopic" |
| 10:27 | <ANTONELLA> | pero que se hace en esta pagina |
| 10:27 | <ANTONELLA> | he |
| 10:27 | <icebrain1> | ANTONELLA: lee lo que dpkg dije. Es de ayuda con ordenadores |
| 10:28 | <ANTONELLA> | am not speak ingles |
| 10:28 | <ml|> | babilen: can't hurt, but the one we have now should suffice; ask the powers that be ;) |
| 10:28 | <ANTONELLA> | ok |
| 10:29 | <ml|> | ANTONELLA: read what dpkg said please |
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| 10:29 | <ANTONELLA> | no te entiendo |
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| 10:38 | <lluvia> | I am trying to install debian in a intel 133 MHz but installer say me that it haven't got a kernel for me |
| 10:38 | <lluvia> | what can I do? |
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| 10:44 | <lluvia> | the first thing I ask me is: has it sense? |
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| 10:44 | <sney> | the installers have an i686 kernel, you need i486, I'm not sure where to get an installer with that but it should be possible |
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| 10:49 | <lluvia> | sney: I see |
| 10:50 | <lluvia> | a net inst could be a solution? |
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| 11:14 | <Laurenn> | http://i905.photobucket.ath.cx/albums/ac255/blonde241/DSC932432.jpg?t=1269184033 do my breasts look to big? |
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| 11:16 | <ttg> | (A) |
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| 11:21 | <aguitel> | babilen, Torsten_W :i have this message :cups-insecure-filter ,what is? |
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| 11:29 | <babilen> | aguitel: No idea - paste the complete output to a pastebin/google it yourself ;) |
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| 11:40 | <JeyBee66> | bei Gnome kann man ja die passenden Themenpacks auf gnome-looks.org saugen, xFce basiert doch auch auf GTK2.+, oder? |
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| 11:41 | <Torsten_W> | xfce4 nutzt gtk2, ja |
| 11:41 | <JeyBee66> | dann kann ich die von gnome-looks.org nehmen? |
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| 11:42 | <sney> | !de |
| 11:42 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 11:42 | <Torsten_W> | o yes wrong chan for geman questions |
| 11:43 | <JeyBee66> | ah, sry, my bad |
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| 11:45 | <JeyBee66> | can i use the GTK2 Themes from gnome-looks.org for XFCE? |
| 11:45 | <Torsten_W> | you can also have had a look at xfce-look.org |
| 11:46 | <Torsten_W> | and you can't use gnome-themes für xfce |
| 11:46 | <Torsten_W> | but gtk-themes should work |
| 11:46 | <JeyBee66> | yes, i tought so... |
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| 11:49 | <othor> | I am having problems with terribly slow USB 2 transfers, varies between 500kB/s and 30mB/s but stays mostly around 1-3mB/s. I have checked rsync, cp and mv difference in speeds and it doesn't really matter. Also made sure the device is running at full 480mbps. Also tested performance between other drives and they don't seem to be affected at all. Can't seem to find much about the issue other than the fact that most agree USB is slow. But not that slow? |
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| 11:50 | <Zomb> | othor: tried different ports? |
| 11:50 | <Zomb> | i.e. the front port, without any hub inbetween? |
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| 11:52 | <bremner> | othor: check dmesg, see if it is "high speed" or "full speed" = slow |
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| 11:53 | <othor> | It says new high speed usb device |
| 11:54 | <ml|> | is it a drive in an enclosure? |
| 11:54 | * | tholmith waves at ml| |
| 11:55 | <othor> | Yes it's an external usb drive |
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| 11:56 | <ml|> | test with another drive? maybe hardware issue drive or enclosure? |
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| 11:57 | <kootoomootoo> | Hi! |
| 11:57 | <JeyBee66> | ello |
| 11:57 | <JeyBee66> | hello |
| 11:57 | <amitz> | othor: is that USB 2.0 part of motherboard or pci addition? |
| 11:58 | <othor> | It's motherboard |
| 11:58 | <kootoomootoo> | I have installed pure-ftpd, but inetd start tcpd and my server could not run |
| 11:58 | <amitz> | see dmesg if it time outs or reconnect periodically? |
| 11:58 | <amitz> | or the data flows consistently? |
| 11:59 | <othor> | I have it's all normal there |
| 11:59 | <kootoomootoo> | tcpd should start my pure-ftpd server? |
| 11:59 | <amitz> | I assume ehci_hcd (or is it uhci_hcd, can't recall) are both loaded? |
| 11:59 | <kootoomootoo> | if I kil that inetd service, pure run ok |
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| 12:00 | <bremner> | othor: does running iotop give any clues? |
| 12:00 | <kootoomootoo> | How should I start pure-ftpd? |
| 12:00 | <kootoomootoo> | within inetd? |
| 12:00 | <amitz> | ehci_hcd it seems. |
| 12:01 | <tholmith> | i'm having a litle problem with grub2. altough /etc/default/grub contains #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true update-grub doesn't pass the UUID to the kernel command line. it might be because the root partition is encrypted? editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg and adding the uuid was easy but it shouldn't be done like that. is there something i miss? |
| 12:01 | <kootoomootoo> | does tcpd something useful? |
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| 12:02 | <ml|> | tholmith: maybe worlk fine here |
| 12:02 | <ml|> | *works |
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| 12:02 | <amitz> | othor: ehci_hcd is the module for USB2.0 |
| 12:03 | <othor> | Is says that exactly: usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7 |
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| 12:03 | <ml|> | tholmith: check bts and file a bug if needed |
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| 12:05 | <amitz> | othor: have you tried another drive or another enclosure? since I run out of idea. |
| 12:06 | <amitz> | there is an issue of file system but that's pure speculation of mine ;-) |
| 12:07 | <amitz> | btw, you haven't confirmed. The flow is constantly slow right? Not fast then suddenly stop, then pick up speed again, then slow again, repeat. |
| 12:07 | <othor> | no it's very random |
| 12:07 | <othor> | At first I thought it was heavy fragmentation |
| 12:07 | <bremner> | kootoomootoo: did you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/pure-ftpd |
| 12:08 | <othor> | But I am copying around 1TB of files |
| 12:08 | <othor> | And after 2 days I got suspicious |
| 12:08 | <amitz> | othor: multiple files? you're not by any chance running xfs or reiser fs in that protable drive? |
| 12:09 | <othor> | amitz: No it's ntfs |
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| 12:09 | <othor> | amitz: in this case it's both ntfs the source and destination, but no problem copying from ntfs to ext3 or the other way around. So I thought the problem may be usb related |
| 12:10 | <amitz> | perhaps you can try cat /dev/hd?? > test.img and see the performance? if it still suck, and randomly, I give up. |
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| 12:12 | <amitz> | if fast, then slow, then fast, then slow, within that session, it's probably your harddrive's USB. I've been there. |
| 12:13 | <amitz> | othor: oh the idea was, some fs really processing power hungry for certain type of files, like xfs. Been there too. |
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| 12:14 | <amitz> | so 2 ntfs may be slowed down significantly. |
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| 12:15 | <othor> | amitz: this is mostly just multimedia files. most around 700-1.5GB. But I will try to convert the other external to some other file system and try that then, see if it makes a difference. Can't be bothered right now since it's alot of data. |
| 12:16 | <othor> | But I did notice a decrease in system IO performance while copying, but not real cpu usage |
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| 12:17 | <othor> | Mostly with nautilus being slower than normally with opening folders |
| 12:18 | <Pooninranger> | im using lenny on a vps and i have the timezone set to central and it shows it right in local time but everything goes off of UTC time how can i change that? |
| 12:18 | <amitz> | perhaps don't use nautilus? and check about performance of ntfs for large files and HD. Good luck :-) |
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| 12:18 | <kootoomootoo> | bremner: I just modified a line in inetd.conf and looks OK |
| 12:19 | <othor> | amitz: what do you suggest instead? |
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| 12:19 | <othor> | amitz: and note I am not using nautilus for file copying |
| 12:19 | <kootoomootoo> | I am not sure what tcpd daemon does |
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| 12:20 | <kootoomootoo> | I should use it or not |
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| 12:21 | <rolnikov> | hi |
| 12:21 | <rolnikov> | i have problem with dhclient |
| 12:21 | <roxi_lapeke> | ola |
| 12:22 | <bremner> | kootoomootoo: well, if you want security advice, I would say don't use ftp. But I guess tcpd can help a little if you only want to allow certain clients. |
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| 12:22 | <rolnikov> | it doesnt renew an IP when I plugged cable |
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| 12:22 | <j0sfg> | problems running bitlbee on lenny. if i run "bitlbee -D" under root without dropping the account to bitlbee, all seems to be ok. but if i run "bitlbee -D" as the user bitlbee, irssi is refused connection. please help? |
| 12:22 | <amitz> | othor: oh, just realized that, sorry. If I were you, I'll check for ntfs performance, specifically in linux. I talked to someone in (other) #debian, his/her dedicated server crawled because of creating/deleting multiple small files/directory structures. changing the fs from xfs to ext3 solve the problem. |
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| 12:22 | <Zomb> | j0sfg: which port does it bind for irssi? |
| 12:23 | <amitz> | xfs really sucks in small files. |
| 12:23 | <rolnikov> | i think its connected with avahi daemon, but i dont know if I can remove it safety ? |
| 12:23 | <kootoomootoo> | Thanks |
| 12:23 | <ml|> | yes, sftp or ftp with ssl would be better security wise and some say don't even use ftp |
| 12:23 | <amitz> | or change HD ;-) |
| 12:23 | <j0sfg> | Zomb: 6667 i assume as that is what it binds to under root. how do i check? |
| 12:23 | <rolnikov> | i have virtualbox which is supposed to use avahi |
| 12:23 | <dr|z3d> | scp just as good, if not better. |
| 12:23 | <rolnikov> | does anybody read me ;) |
| 12:24 | <othor> | amitz: thanks for your help. I'll see about changing file system, other than that, I have plenty of time in this case since it's not my own drive. |
| 12:24 | <Zomb> | j0sfg: that's ok, it must have some other reason. Maybe it fails to read some config files, created as root? Or write to log directory, which was created as root? |
| 12:24 | <ml|> | yes scp is good and rsync with ssh :) |
| 12:24 | <dr|z3d> | rolnikov: Remove it, shouldn't break much, if anything. |
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| 12:26 | <Pooninranger> | can someone help me with my problem with my time? |
| 12:26 | <amitz> | othor: np :-) |
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| 12:26 | <bremner> | !tell Pooninranger -about ask |
| 12:26 | <kootoomootoo> | what flag should I use with pure-ftpd to allow connection from web browser (opera) |
| 12:26 | <Pooninranger> | im using lenny on a vps and i have the timezone set to central and it shows it right in local time but everything goes off of UTC time how can i change that? |
| 12:27 | <kootoomootoo> | -N? |
| 12:27 | <dr|z3d> | Pooninranger: aptitude install ntpd ? |
| 12:27 | <Pooninranger> | i said that earlier |
| 12:27 | <ml|> | Pooninranger: /msg dpkg set time |
| 12:27 | <j0sfg> | Zomb: /var/lib/bitlbee is owned by user bitlbee.bitlbee with rwx------ permissions. /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf is owned by root.bitlbee with rw-r----- perms. what might be the other directories? |
| 12:27 | <Pooninranger> | i installed ntpdate |
| 12:27 | <dr|z3d> | Oh, timezone.. just set your correctly. |
| 12:27 | <Pooninranger> | it is |
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| 12:27 | <Pooninranger> | my local time is right but everything is going off UTC |
| 12:27 | <bremner> | Pooninranger: oh, sorry, I didn't understand you actually were asking a question. |
| 12:27 | <dr|z3d> | Hmm. Ok. |
| 12:27 | <Zomb> | j0sfg: no idea. In doubt, run it under strace command. |
| 12:28 | <bremner> | Pooninranger: did you try dpkg-reconfigure tzdata? |
| 12:28 | <Pooninranger> | yes |
| 12:28 | <j0sfg> | Zomb: how can i check if 6667 is bound if thw owner is not root? i've never used strace |
| 12:29 | <Pooninranger> | its set to America Chicago |
| 12:29 | <ml|> | ntp or openntpd; I believe ntpdate is obsolete/unmaintaing |
| 12:29 | <Zomb> | j0sfg: lsof, netstat -an (as root) |
| 12:29 | <Pooninranger> | Current default timezone: 'America/Chicago' |
| 12:29 | <Pooninranger> | Local time is now: Sun Mar 21 11:30:03 CDT 2010. |
| 12:29 | <Pooninranger> | Universal Time is now: Sun Mar 21 16:30:03 UTC 2010. |
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| 12:29 | <Zomb> | j0sfg: and check the logs, of course |
| 12:30 | <Zomb> | are the previous logfiles writeable to the user? |
| 12:30 | <j0sfg> | Zomb: which logfiles? |
| 12:31 | <Zomb> | j0sfg: the one that already exist? If not, just forget it ;-) |
| 12:31 | <j0sfg> | Zomb: i don't know if bitlbee creates any log files, and if yes, where? |
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| 12:33 | <Pooninranger> | ml| just do apt-get install ntp? |
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| 12:33 | <dr|z3d> | Pooninranger: Yes! |
| 12:33 | <ml|> | Pooninranger: /msg dpkg ntp |
| 12:33 | <Zomb> | j0sfg: no idea, maybe there is no log at all |
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| 12:34 | <dr|z3d> | or better still, aptitude install.. |
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| 12:34 | <ml|> | Pooninranger: also pool.ntp |
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| 12:34 | <Pooninranger> | i did apt-get install ntp and now my time is right |
| 12:34 | <Pooninranger> | tysm |
| 12:35 | <Pooninranger> | i run a mircbot and i need a timer to go off at a certain time and didn't want to have to create something to convert it |
| 12:35 | <j0sfg> | Zomb: thanks, you've given me some food for thought. i'm going to try a few things and see how it goes... ta! |
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| 12:38 | <coolworld> | whats is the newest kernel used on lenny |
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| 12:39 | <sney> | judd: kernels |
| 12:39 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 12:39 | <coolworld> | thanks |
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| 12:41 | <jhutchins_lt> | What's the difference between experimental and sid? |
| 12:41 | <OdyX> | jhutchins_lt: just different suites. |
| 12:41 | <azeem_> | jhutchins_lt: experimental is not a full suite |
| 12:41 | <OdyX> | jhutchins_lt: there is no automatic transition from experimental |
| 12:42 | <OdyX> | experimental is mostly a breakable sid |
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| 12:42 | <fedebrad> | hi all |
| 12:43 | <Phyth0n> | Hello |
| 12:43 | <Phyth0n> | Is anyone here familiar with devices using the ralink rt2870 chipset? |
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| 12:45 | <sney> | Phyth0n: /msg dpkg rt2870 |
| 12:45 | <Phyth0n> | Yes |
| 12:46 | <Phyth0n> | I have already read the wiki article |
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| 12:46 | <Phyth0n> | I've gone over every step a few times to make sure that I didn't do something wrong |
| 12:46 | <sney> | so if you're having a specific issue, you should tell us about it, instead of vaguely asking if anyone has used your nic |
| 12:46 | <Phyth0n> | But the adaptor does nothing |
| 12:46 | <Phyth0n> | oh |
| 12:46 | <Phyth0n> | sorry |
| 12:47 | <Phyth0n> | The machine isn't detecting it at all |
| 12:47 | <Phyth0n> | The module is loaded |
| 12:47 | <Phyth0n> | And I've installed the firmware |
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| 12:47 | <sney> | does it show in lspci? |
| 12:47 | <Phyth0n> | It's a USB adaptor |
| 12:47 | <Phyth0n> | and it shows up in lsusb |
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| 12:48 | <Phyth0n> | Bus 002 Device 005: ID 050d:815c Belkin Components Ralink RT2870 [F5D8053 N Wireless USB Adapter v3000] |
| 12:48 | <Phyth0n> | It's on the list of supported hardware |
| 12:48 | <Phyth0n> | In the wiki article |
| 12:50 | <sney> | so what happens if you iwconfig ra0? |
| 12:50 | <Phyth0n> | ra0 No such device |
| 12:51 | <mercutio32> | I'd like to backup and later restore my entire system. What route should I go? Tar? |
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| 12:51 | <Phyth0n> | It's definitely plugged in |
| 12:51 | <Phyth0n> | And the rt2870sta module is loaded |
| 12:51 | <ml|> | mercutio32: rsync and better yet rsnapshot /msg dpkg rsnapshot; there are more solutions of course |
| 12:52 | <sney> | Phyth0n: what kernel are you on? |
| 12:52 | <Phyth0n> | 2.6.30 amd64 |
| 12:53 | <sney> | it might be wlan0, check iwconfig wlan0 |
| 12:53 | <mercutio32> | ml|: thanks for the suggestions |
| 12:53 | <ml|> | np |
| 12:53 | <Phyth0n> | iwconfig only shows lo and eth0 |
| 12:54 | <Phyth0n> | wlan0 No such device |
| 12:54 | <sney> | hmm |
| 12:55 | <Phyth0n> | I got it to work sort-of earlier |
| 12:55 | <Phyth0n> | It detected it |
| 12:55 | <Phyth0n> | But wouldn't connect to any networks |
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| 12:56 | <sney> | Phyth0n: anything in dmesg after you loaded the module? |
| 12:56 | <ml|> | mercutio32: this should help and read the docs ... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=47836&start=0 |
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| 12:58 | <Phyth0n> | sney: http://pastebin.com/Sq29hTch |
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| 13:00 | <coolworld> | Phyth0n: are you using X or command line ? |
| 13:00 | <Phyth0n> | GUI? |
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| 13:00 | <coolworld> | yea, whatever its refered to now <- old school |
| 13:00 | <Phyth0n> | oh lol |
| 13:00 | <Phyth0n> | yeah, gnome |
| 13:01 | <rivon> | why does the synaptic want to uninstall xorg + all input and video drivers when I try to install nvidia-glx package? |
| 13:01 | <coolworld> | so you dont see your card active in the upper right hand side of the screen (if you didnt change the theme) |
| 13:01 | <coolworld> | rivon: because that package has dependencies |
| 13:01 | <ml|> | does it need those other video drivers? |
| 13:01 | <ml|> | doesn't* |
| 13:01 | <Phyth0n> | Well |
| 13:02 | <rivon> | yes... but I need xorg ;) |
| 13:02 | <Phyth0n> | I just installed wicf |
| 13:02 | <Phyth0n> | wicd* |
| 13:02 | <Phyth0n> | but that doesn't work either |
| 13:02 | <rivon> | and also it wants to uninstall input drivers... not only video drivers |
| 13:03 | <ml|> | yeah removing xorg is odd, not normal |
| 13:03 | <coolworld> | rivon: I agree with ml| |
| 13:03 | <Phyth0n> | any ideas? |
| 13:04 | <ml|> | rivon: pastebin that to get help |
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| 13:04 | <rivon> | paste where? |
| 13:04 | <sney> | Phyth0n: you've exhausted my knowledge, but the people in #debian-eeepc have a lot of experience with that driver so they may be helpful |
| 13:04 | <ml|> | !pastebin |
| 13:04 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 13:05 | <coolworld> | Phyth0n: hang on thinking... had the same issue with oen of my other machines.. |
| 13:05 | <Phyth0n> | hmm |
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| 13:05 | <Phyth0n> | ok I'll check in there |
| 13:06 | <Phyth0n> | thanks for trying |
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| 13:06 | <rivon> | paste what? I said it all in first post... when I try to install nvidia-glx, synaptic wants to uninstall xorg + all input and video drivers... |
| 13:07 | <ml|> | the output of that |
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| 13:07 | <coolworld> | i need to install nvidia drivers for this machine lol.. |
| 13:07 | <rivon> | ml|, it's in synaptic... not apt |
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| 13:08 | <ml|> | rivon: ok, don't paste or use aptitude and paste your choice |
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| 13:09 | <rivon> | I can paste the output of aptitude, but it's in Czech language... how do I change the language of it? |
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| 13:10 | <Torsten_W> | rivon, lang=C command |
| 13:10 | <Torsten_W> | grr |
| 13:10 | <ml|> | dpkg localized errors |
| 13:10 | <Torsten_W> | LANG=C command |
| 13:10 | <dpkg> | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. LANG=C apt-get -f install |
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| 13:12 | <rivon> | http://paste.debian.net/65231/ |
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| 13:14 | <rivon> | so? |
| 13:14 | <ml|> | rivon: did you follow the wiki to use nvidia driver? |
| 13:15 | <rivon> | I dunno... just trying to install nvidia-glx + nvidia-kernel-source and compile the module |
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| 13:15 | <coolworld> | ml|: let me guess you hae to compile it into the kernel |
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| 13:15 | <ml|> | rivon: /msg dpkg nvidia and follow that |
| 13:15 | <rivon> | normally I would just install the compiled module, but it'S for 2.6.26-2 and not -3 |
| 13:16 | <rivon> | ml|, not really helping me |
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| 13:16 | <ml|> | coolworld: no, need a module |
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| 13:19 | <coolworld> | intresting, might see if that works with this machine, it had nvidia card |
| 13:19 | <rivon> | why it's fucked up in Squeeze and ok in Sid? shouldn't it be opposite? |
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| 13:19 | <ml|> | rivon: oh using squeeze? |
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| 13:21 | <rivon> | ml|, yes |
| 13:21 | <ml|> | rivon: then /msg dpkg nvidia squeeze and follow that exactly |
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| 13:22 | <rivon> | yeah I'm following that |
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| 13:23 | <ml|> | rivon: you need to make your system is up to date first |
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| 13:24 | <kootoomootoo> | how can I send an email from my machine to my yahoo mail account? |
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| 13:26 | <rivon> | ml|, I know |
| 13:27 | <ml|> | just looks odd trying to install an old kernel, I would never guess you used testing |
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| 13:28 | <rivon> | how it's possible that there is no xorg.conf in my system? :) |
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| 13:29 | <ml|> | no needed these days, for the most part |
| 13:29 | <ml|> | not* |
| 13:30 | <ml|> | but iirc you will when start using nvidia driver |
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| 13:31 | <afsal> | ny1 can tell me d command to dwnld pidgin 2.6.6 |
| 13:31 | <rivon> | nvidia-xconfig made a new file named XF86Config... should I rename it to xorg.conf? |
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| 13:32 | <ml|> | last I used that it made a xorg.conf; make a backup just incase |
| 13:33 | <rivon> | there's no xorg.conf |
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| 13:33 | <rivon> | to backup |
| 13:33 | <rivon> | ok going to reboot |
| 13:33 | <ml|> | not of that of your newly created one or just redo it will work too |
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| 13:36 | <kootoomootoo> | afsal: use debian backports |
| 13:36 | <rivon> | aah workin' fine :D |
| 13:36 | <rivon> | finally |
| 13:37 | <ml|> | !congratulate rivon |
| 13:37 | <dpkg> | Woohoo rivon, you did it! |
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| 13:38 | <kootoomootoo> | How can I send mail from machine to yahoo accounts? |
| 13:38 | <rivon> | btw there's another problem... sometimes when I click the Reboot/Shutdown in Gnome, it just logs me out and throws me to GDM. and when I click Shutdown in GDM it just throws me to terminal (and I think the GDM is still running by that time) |
| 13:39 | <ml|> | check bts, while you wait for any help on that |
| 13:43 | <rivon> | I kind of don't understand the bug searching system... it's really cryptic |
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| 13:56 | <chaos> | this is my current net layout: adsl modem -> linux box -> windows box ... how do i temporarily stop the routing for windows box to the internet? the goal would be to still have internet access for the linux box and LAN access between windows & linux but not to let windows go online |
| 13:58 | <coolworld> | ip tables, or a firewall |
| 13:58 | <captain> | chaos, i'm guessing you have iptables running? |
| 13:58 | <chaos> | yes |
| 13:59 | <chaos> | if i empy my forward chain and make its policy drop that would do it? |
| 13:59 | <chaos> | *empty |
| 13:59 | <captain> | as far as i remember, there's a more elegant way to just "stop" it... |
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| 13:59 | <captain> | it's been YEARS since i've had to do that though... i just buy these $40 netgear boxen these days |
| 13:59 | <chaos> | well .. if there was a button to push to temp halt it and then push again to resume that'd be very good :) |
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| 14:01 | <captain> | chaos, is there an init.d script? |
| 14:01 | <j0sfg> | chaos make windows have static ip, don't set default gateway or dns. windows won't go on the internet |
| 14:01 | <captain> | try to /etc/init.d/ipchains_or_whatever stop |
| 14:01 | <chaos> | j0sfg: hm.. great idea :) |
| 14:02 | <captain> | j0sfg's idea will work too :)... i don't think you don't need it to be static though |
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| 14:02 | <chaos> | it's static anyway |
| 14:02 | <captain> | chaos, lol... paranoid much? ;) |
| 14:02 | <j0sfg> | captain: if it wasn't static, imho dhcp would dump everything on to it |
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| 14:02 | <captain> | you're basically running my topology from almost back in the dialup days :P |
| 14:03 | <j0sfg> | :-) |
| 14:03 | <chaos> | no but what's the point of making it dynamic if there's a link cable between windows & linux? |
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| 14:03 | <captain> | j0sfg, as far as i remember, you can override just certain dhcp-given things in windows |
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| 14:03 | <captain> | chaos, if you have several machines behind the linux box, you may not wanna manage static ips on all of them |
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| 14:05 | <captain> | of course, you'd need to run a dhcp server on your linux box too... so it's a matter of which work seems like less to you... |
| 14:05 | <chaos> | well .. there's my box with static and the rest of the family on a switch with dynamic |
| 14:06 | <j0sfg> | can i reserve some IPs on dhcp and not let them have the def gw and dns, etc? |
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| 14:08 | <captain> | j0sfg, yup |
| 14:09 | <captain> | you can have multiple scopes |
| 14:10 | <j0sfg> | ah i see. so have a scope with reserved ips, and another for everything. yes |
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| 14:17 | <captain> | yup! :) |
| 14:22 | <captain> | anyone else on testing or sid get something about "system policy" asking for root's password when you try to reboot... and it reboots regardless of whether you enter it or not? |
| 14:22 | <azeem_> | captain: don't crosspost, please |
| 14:22 | <ml|> | not here |
| 14:22 | <captain> | azeem_, wow not even across networks? |
| 14:22 | <captain> | sorry... wasn't aware |
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| 14:23 | <captain> | ml|, hmm... wonder if i should be suspicious... |
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| 14:24 | <ml|> | I just rebooted today just fine :) |
| 14:24 | <azeem_> | captain: do you have sudo setup with nopasswd or something, maybe? |
| 14:24 | <captain> | azeem_, my sudoers is very default |
| 14:24 | <captain> | i just su - if i need anything... |
| 14:25 | <bibop554> | hi all |
| 14:25 | <captain> | damn... i've installed a dirty deb or two from outside the official repositories... hope i haven't been rooted... :-/ |
| 14:25 | <captain> | hi bibop554 |
| 14:25 | <bibop554> | Does anyone know how the debian dev can test the package nivia-glx ? I mean, have they all kind of graphic card to test |
| 14:26 | <bibop554> | Or maybe they test only on one or two gpu and assume it will be ok for the other ? |
| 14:27 | <azeem_> | bibop554: it's getting tested in unstable |
| 14:27 | <jhutchins_lt> | bibop554: There isn't a lab that tests them. It's just whoever has whatever card on their system. |
| 14:28 | <bibop554> | oh yeah. It's a kind of distributed lab among the debian's user ^^ yes, very convenient |
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| 14:29 | <bibop554> | i have a 9600gt, still not supported in squeeze, is there a way to know when it will be supported ? |
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| 14:29 | <ml|> | captain: you can always check those deb's to be on the safe side |
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| 14:30 | <captain> | bibop554, is it a question of the upstream driver not supporting your card, or debian not packaging the newer version? |
| 14:30 | <bibop554> | captain> debian not packaging the newer version. (meanwhile i installed the driver from nvidia's website) |
| 14:30 | <captain> | ml|, sadly, i wasn't all that careful at documenting them :-/ |
| 14:30 | <Torsten_W> | the driver in sid does support this card |
| 14:31 | <ml|> | bibop554: you need to follow /msg dpkg nvidia squeeze |
| 14:31 | <ml|> | captain: a double wammy ;( |
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| 14:31 | <captain> | hehe yup |
| 14:32 | <mercutio32> | how to change an ntfs partition label? |
| 14:32 | <captain> | bibop554, have you tried the sid deb, as Torsten_W suggested? |
| 14:32 | <captain> | ps, is bibop554 a throw back to ninja turtles? |
| 14:32 | <bibop554> | captain> no, because i'm in squeeze, and i don't really know how to install packages from another stream |
| 14:32 | <bibop554> | moreover i don't install unstable package |
| 14:33 | <ml|> | captain: it's a bit more involded that |
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| 14:33 | <captain> | bibop554, i'd imagine doing the dependencies manually wouldn't be all that hard |
| 14:33 | <Torsten_W> | mercutio22, with ntfslabel |
| 14:33 | <ml|> | *than that |
| 14:33 | <mercutio22> | Torsten_W: thanks for the clue |
| 14:33 | <captain> | otherwise you could do some apt pinning... but i have had some issues doing that... like more of sid creeping in than i'd like :( |
| 14:33 | <j0sfg> | how can i allow normal users to use the reboot command in lenny? |
| 14:33 | <captain> | j0sfg, sudo |
| 14:34 | <ml|> | captain: explains that... /msg dpkg nvidia squeeze |
| 14:34 | <j0sfg> | i don't want to put everyone in sudo |
| 14:34 | <ml|> | or just ^-alt-delete in a tty |
| 14:34 | <j0sfg> | how can i just allow them to use reboot or halt and no other sudo commands? |
| 14:35 | <captain> | ml|, oh wow... that particular question is quite common huh? |
| 14:35 | <cahoot> | learn how to use sudo |
| 14:35 | <ml|> | man sudo explains |
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| 14:35 | <captain> | j0sfg, that's what sudo is for... giving limited access |
| 14:35 | <adb> | j0sfg, try '/sbin/shutdown -r now' as user .. |
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| 14:35 | <ml|> | captain: yes it is |
| 14:35 | <j0sfg> | adb, oh... i had no idea |
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| 14:38 | <ml|> | can also create a sudo group and add your users to that and setup sudo correctly |
| 14:39 | <j0sfg> | adb "shutdown: you must be root to do that!" |
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| 14:39 | <ml|> | hehe |
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| 14:40 | <captain> | ml|, good idea ;)... otherwise 'nobody' could issue reboot too huh? |
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| 14:42 | <ml|> | either way will work |
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| 14:43 | <j0sfg> | yes, i want 'nobody' or anybody or everybody to issue halt and reboot commands. either that or they kill the laptop... hehe |
| 14:43 | <Guest1784> | what??? |
| 14:44 | <bibop554> | lol |
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| 14:44 | <elfo> | ola |
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| 14:44 | <Guest1784> | olala |
| 14:44 | <elfo> | ola |
| 14:44 | <elfo> | q ai |
| 14:45 | <ml|> | !ubuntu-es elfo |
| 14:45 | <dpkg> | elfo: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
| 14:45 | <elfo> | eres español |
| 14:45 | <ml|> | no |
| 14:45 | <elfo> | de donde eres |
| 14:46 | <Guest1784> | sidux |
| 14:46 | <elfo> | y eso a donde esta |
| 14:46 | <Guest1784> | ola |
| 14:46 | <noflash> | !es |
| 14:46 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:46 | <ml|> | elfo: le lo que dijo dpkg por favor aqui no spanish |
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| 14:46 | <Guest1784> | no spain |
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| 14:47 | <elfo> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ok |
| 14:47 | <elfo> | eres iniglis |
| 14:47 | <Guest1784> | yes |
| 14:48 | <elfo> | aa ok |
| 14:48 | <elfo> | speak espanish |
| 14:48 | <Guest1784> | bye elfo see you later |
| 14:48 | <elfo> | vale yao |
| 14:49 | <elfo> | ola |
| 14:49 | <elfo> | debhelper |
| 14:49 | <ml|> | !ops elfo |
| 14:49 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: ml| complains about: elfo |
| 14:50 | <elfo> | q |
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| 14:50 | <Maulkin> | !es |
| 14:50 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:50 | <ml|> | Maulkin: thanks, he is using ubuntu btw |
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| 15:36 | <khades_> | beer: can i drink u? |
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| 15:43 | <And1> | Anyone knows how to change the order of the output of 'xrandr -q'? I'm using the metamodes Option in xorg.conf's Screen-session. |
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| 15:46 | <user55> | moin, moin wieso kann ich im Archivmanager ( x31+Lenny) firmware-ipw2x00_0.14+lenny2_all.deb nicht öffnen ?? Hat jemand einen Tipp ? |
| 15:46 | <babilen> | !de |
| 15:46 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 15:46 | <babilen> | user55: Oder eben hier auf Englisch :) |
| 15:47 | <babilen> | And1: Why would you want to change the order? Can't you just extract the pieces you need? |
| 15:47 | <user55> | ich hohl mal das dictionary - may be i 'm back tomorrow |
| 15:48 | <babilen> | user55: Wie gesagt - es gibt auch einen Deutschen Channel (#debian.de) |
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| 15:48 | <babilen> | user55: Apart from that, you don't really want to install th firmware package through aptitude |
| 15:48 | <And1> | babilen: I want X to start with only one display active, even if two are plugged in. And if I want to, I can switch via xrandr to two displays. Now after starting X I automatically have two displays. |
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| 15:49 | <babilen> | user55: "aptitude install firmware-ipw2x00" should do the trick. Use dpkg -x to extract it. |
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| 16:16 | <bombadil_> | hello, does anyone here know about hosting an IRC server on debian? |
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| 16:20 | <muzy> | bombadil_, I do |
| 16:20 | <muzy> | but what is the question? |
| 16:20 | <bombadil_> | hello muzy! |
| 16:21 | <bombadil_> | so nice to meet you. well basically, the curiosity of hosting an IRC server randomly crossed my mind |
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| 16:21 | <bombadil_> | how much bandwidth is required? |
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| 16:21 | <muzy> | well I first would recommend you to check your ISP |
| 16:21 | -!- | sansen_ [~san@190.245.97.224] has joined #debian |
| 16:21 | <muzy> | cause some ISP forbid IRC Server |
| 16:21 | <bombadil_> | fascinating |
| 16:21 | <bombadil_> | i had no idea! |
| 16:21 | <bombadil_> | well i have done webservers and game servers |
| 16:22 | <muzy> | and if its forbidden they can cancel your contract |
| 16:22 | <muzy> | so I recommend to check this first |
| 16:22 | <muzy> | (the reason is that IRC Servers are often the aim of DDOS attacks) |
| 16:22 | <bombadil_> | makes sense |
| 16:23 | <bombadil_> | so by hosting an IRC server from my home, would i be endangering my home network? |
| 16:23 | <muzy> | The bandwith is a good question, it depends on whether you link to other servers and on the number of users |
| 16:23 | <bombadil_> | perhaps i could create a subnet |
| 16:23 | <muzy> | bombadil_, it depends on your skills |
| 16:23 | <muzy> | if you have a ddos on a homenetwork you might have no access to internet anymore |
| 16:23 | <bombadil_> | i have a linux firewall box |
| 16:24 | <niekie> | Hosting an IRC server on a home connection is usually not a good idea :) |
| 16:24 | <muzy> | yep |
| 16:24 | <niekie> | (though, ironically, that's how the IRC network I run started out) |
| 16:24 | <bombadil_> | that's pretty much what I was thinking, thanks for clarifying |
| 16:24 | <bombadil_> | what's another option? dedicated hosting? |
| 16:24 | <niekie> | bombadil_: no need for dedicated. |
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| 16:25 | <bombadil_> | shared is fine? |
| 16:25 | <muzy> | For myself I have the experience that an IRC NEtwork with 20-30 Users takes about 50MB of Bandwidth/Month and 5-10MB RAM |
| 16:25 | <niekie> | bombadil_: usually you can just rent a shell somewhere. |
| 16:25 | <muzy> | bombadil_, you should go fine with a vps |
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| 16:25 | <bombadil_> | interesting |
| 16:25 | <bombadil_> | still, it would be fun to do it here |
| 16:25 | <niekie> | Watch out though. Because even most dedicated hosts or VPS providers won't allow IRC hosting. |
| 16:26 | <niekie> | Check up with them if it is okay first is my recommendation :) |
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| 16:26 | <niekie> | The one I have currently has it not permitted in their TOS, though their FAQ says they allow it on request (and my request got accepted) :) |
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| 16:27 | <niekie> | (and I have another shell provider which explicitly permits it) |
| 16:27 | <muzy> | Mine says "no" but the AGB doesn't forbid |
| 16:27 | <muzy> | so I have the right to do so |
| 16:27 | <bombadil_> | can i VNC into a VPS? |
| 16:27 | <muzy> | o.O |
| 16:27 | <niekie> | bombadil_: why would you want to? :) |
| 16:27 | <muzy> | why you need VNC= |
| 16:27 | <muzy> | ? |
| 16:27 | <ml|> | ssh |
| 16:27 | <bombadil_> | just for the fun of it tbh |
| 16:28 | <muzy> | i would just use ssh |
| 16:28 | <muzy> | with key-login |
| 16:28 | <niekie> | bombadil_: why waste the resources? :) |
| 16:28 | <muzy> | and no root login |
| 16:28 | <muzy> | to make it secure |
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| 16:28 | <muzy> | and then change the port maybe |
| 16:28 | <bombadil_> | that's what i have here at home. i use putty on my cellphone |
| 16:28 | <Phyth0n> | Hello, I have an adaptor that uses the rt2870 chipset and I have installed the firmware and loaded the module, yet debian still doesn't recognise my device. Any ideas? |
| 16:28 | <ml|> | yup muzy :) |
| 16:28 | <muzy> | or just make it accessable through a VPN |
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| 16:28 | <niekie> | Or run a honeypot on port 22 >:) |
| 16:28 | <Phyth0n> | I followed everything in the wiki |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | Hi. I would like to check for the arch in debian/rules. |
| 16:29 | <niekie> | I remember I once ran one that logged attempted usernames/passwords and everything. |
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| 16:29 | <GCS> | I do: |
| 16:29 | <niekie> | I made that myself though :) |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | DEB_HOST_ARCH := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH) |
| 16:29 | <bombadil_> | i used RSA pre-shared key (with password) + i changed the port |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), amd64) |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | ... |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | Which fails as: |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | ifeq (amd64, amd64) |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | /bin/sh: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") |
| 16:29 | <GCS> | What do I miss? |
| 16:29 | <muzy> | GCS use a pastebin next time please. |
| 16:30 | <bombadil_> | thanks for the suggestions |
| 16:30 | <Phyth0n> | Could anyone help me? |
| 16:30 | <muzy> | no problem, your're welcome |
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| 16:31 | <bombadil_> | what about this stuff: https://www.santrex.net/vpshosting.php |
| 16:31 | <bombadil_> | i think they allow IRC |
| 16:31 | <bombadil_> | $10 a month |
| 16:31 | <muzy> | bombadil_, thats a waste of money |
| 16:31 | <muzy> | imho |
| 16:31 | <muzy> | I've got a vps for about 2€ |
| 16:31 | <muzy> | this is maybe US$ 3 |
| 16:31 | <muzy> | with 256MB RAM |
| 16:31 | <muzy> | and 50GB BW |
| 16:32 | <muzy> | I would not spend too much money on it |
| 16:32 | <bombadil_> | oh i think you need the IRCD account |
| 16:32 | <niekie> | Ping. |
| 16:32 | <niekie> | (hrm, seems DNS is failing on my home connection) |
| 16:32 | <muzy> | hm bombadil_? |
| 16:32 | <niekie> | Anyone got an open nameserver? |
| 16:32 | <muzy> | yep |
| 16:32 | <bombadil_> | muzy: that's a great price. how many people can join the server ? |
| 16:32 | <niekie> | What was the one Google ran again? |
| 16:32 | <bombadil_> | what host do you use? |
| 16:32 | <muzy> | bombadil_, it's your choise |
| 16:33 | <muzy> | *choice |
| 16:33 | <muzy> | niekie, 8.8.8.8 |
| 16:33 | <niekie> | muzy: thank you :) |
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| 16:33 | <niekie> | muzy: aw. And just as you give me it, my DNS starts working again. Thank you very much anyway :) |
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| 16:34 | <bombadil_> | can you recommend a good vps host? |
| 16:34 | * | niekie can. |
| 16:34 | <muzy> | well I've searched for the wikileaks site i made with free dns servers |
| 16:34 | <muzy> | but it seems not available |
| 16:34 | <muzy> | bombadil_, i can |
| 16:34 | <niekie> | I have a 512MB RAM, 1024MB SWAP, 1000GB bandwidth, 40GB disk, 4 IP VPS for 19.99GBP/month |
| 16:35 | <muzy> | but you have to setup the vps yourself there (and its a german hoster) |
| 16:35 | <muzy> | I have 256MB RAM, 50GB bandwidth, 4GB Disk and 1IPv4 and 5 IPv6 adresses for 2€/month |
| 16:36 | <niekie> | muzy: sweet. Can I get a link? :) |
| 16:36 | <niekie> | Might get that as additional server. |
| 16:36 | <muzy> | am I allowed to paste it here? |
| 16:36 | <niekie> | muzy: not sure. PM it to me. |
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| 16:39 | <zem_> | Fr9yJZFR8GFt |
| 16:39 | <niekie> | muzy: just 5 IPv6 is kinda small though :D |
| 16:39 | <niekie> | *chuckles* |
| 16:39 | <bombadil_> | yes you can paste that stuff here |
| 16:39 | <muzy> | niekie, it's okay ;) |
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| 16:39 | <niekie> | Hehe. |
| 16:39 | * | niekie has 2 /48s on IPv6. |
| 16:39 | <niekie> | *evil grin* |
| 16:39 | * | muzy hat 1 /48 and 1 /56 |
| 16:39 | <muzy> | *has |
| 16:40 | <muzy> | and 10 /128 *g* |
| 16:40 | <bombadil_> | these sound like a better deal than my webhost |
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| 16:40 | <bombadil_> | i would just need to configure apache |
| 16:40 | <muzy> | thats easy |
| 16:41 | <bombadil_> | is a vps a good alternative to a webhost? |
| 16:41 | <muzy> | If you know what you're doing yes |
| 16:41 | <muzy> | but I would rely on a webhost for webhosting |
| 16:41 | * | ml| points to #debian-offtopic |
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| 16:41 | <bombadil_> | it seems like i'm paying a lot for them to administrate my account |
| 16:41 | <muzy> | cause if they fail you can want your money back |
| 16:41 | <muzy> | oh well lets go to #debian-offtopic |
| 16:41 | <muzy> | sorry guys |
| 16:42 | <bombadil_> | i pay $72 / m to host 4 wordpress sites |
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| 16:45 | <Phyth0n> | I have an adaptor that uses the rt2870 chipset and I have installed the firmware and loaded the module, yet debian still doesn't recognise my device. Any ideas? |
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| 16:51 | <rivon> | how can I add windows boot option to grub? there's not menu.lst :( |
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| 16:54 | <ml|> | rivon: take a look at this ... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=48382&start=0 |
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| 16:58 | <Phyth0n> | Well |
| 16:58 | <Phyth0n> | It now shows up |
| 16:58 | <Phyth0n> | But still isn't working properly |
| 16:58 | <dutchfish> | simonrvn: after adding that key i have to dscverify my personal-key.pub to add it to dscverify mechanism, so no security breach |
| 16:59 | <simonrvn> | ok |
| 16:59 | <dutchfish> | simonrvn: it doe snot add the key automatically when imported to dscverify |
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| 16:59 | <dutchfish> | thats all |
| 16:59 | <dutchfish> | a primer for me |
| 17:00 | <ml|> | rivon: can also /msg dpkg grub2 config ; but read the other links so you understand grub2 better |
| 17:00 | <dutchfish> | i have backported many packages and i was prolly lucky not to encounter this sooner |
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| 17:03 | <tha-infamous> | adb how to install kde |
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| 17:03 | <adb> | aptitude install kdebase |
| 17:05 | <tha-infamous> | adb i do thet as a root |
| 17:05 | <adb> | sure |
| 17:05 | <tha-infamous> | sudo ir su |
| 17:05 | <adb> | su |
| 17:05 | <tha-infamous> | */or |
| 17:05 | <tha-infamous> | ok |
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| 17:05 | <adivik2000> | how do i create gps data?? |
| 17:06 | <adivik2000> | i.e gpx |
| 17:07 | <tha-infamous> | adb http://paste.ubuntu.com/398965/ |
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| 17:08 | <tha-infamous> | adb now its working |
| 17:08 | <adb> | ok |
| 17:08 | <rivon> | grub2 sucks |
| 17:08 | <rivon> | I want the older one :) |
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| 17:18 | <tha-infamous> | adb wat is gdm |
| 17:19 | <adb> | gNOME display manager |
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| 17:19 | <adb> | you need kde |
| 17:19 | <adb> | you need kdm* |
| 17:20 | <tha-infamous> | i have opcion gdm and kdm |
| 17:20 | <adb> | > kdm |
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| 17:21 | <tha-infamous> | k its finish, i try to log in to kdm |
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| 17:21 | <bremner> | Gdm works fine for kde |
| 17:22 | <adb> | anyways it's not very important .. but he reboot |
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| 17:28 | <tha-infamous> | adb where to faund drivers |
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| 17:28 | <ml|> | bremner: but gdm does not start with a 'k' ;) |
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| 17:37 | <adb> | tha-infamous, drivers for ? |
| 17:37 | <tha-infamous> | nvidia display drivers |
| 17:37 | <adb> | !nvidia |
| 17:37 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 17:38 | <adb> | !tell tha-infamous about selftell |
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| 18:23 | <And1> | Hey folks, I'm having two identic monitors, though Xorg.0.log shows this: |
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| 18:23 | <And1> | (--) Mar 21 20:08:36 NVIDIA(0): DELL 2408WFP (DFP-0): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock¬ |
| 18:23 | <And1> | (--) Mar 21 20:08:36 NVIDIA(0): DELL 2408WFP (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link TMDS¬ |
| 18:23 | <And1> | (--) Mar 21 20:08:36 NVIDIA(0): DELL 2408WFP (DFP-1): 165.0 MHz maximum pixel clock¬ |
| 18:23 | <And1> | (--) Mar 21 20:08:36 NVIDIA(0): DELL 2408WFP (DFP-1): Internal Single Link TMDS¬ |
| 18:23 | <And1> | Any ideas, why? Sorry for pasting 4 lines. |
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| 18:24 | <bremner> | sounds like the card/cable is different |
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| 18:25 | <bremner> | but my 2408wfp runs off ati |
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| 18:26 | <And1> | I also thought this. Though the two cables look like the first/third graphic here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/DVI_Connector_Types.svg/277px-DVI_Connector_Types.svg.png |
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| 18:28 | <And1> | bremner: Do you also have the cable which came with the monitor in use, does it also look like a single link cable? The second cable isn't from dell, but looks exactly the same. (Well, the pins...) |
| 18:29 | <bremner> | And1: I'm not there now. In any case my says 170MHz pixel clock, which seems to be fast enough. |
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| 18:30 | <And1> | Ah hm. Ok thanks though. :) |
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| 18:34 | <ml|> | And1: mine shows 170 MHz as well |
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| 18:35 | <And1> | ml|, bremner: I'm having a rev 01 and a rev 02. |
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| 18:36 | <And1> | I'd like to know which differences there are, but I didn't find anything on dell.com or google yet. |
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| 18:36 | <ml|> | if it's working fine, should fine? |
| 18:37 | <ml|> | *be |
| 18:38 | <And1> | Just wondered, why there is a difference in Xorg.0.log. |
| 18:39 | <ml|> | maybe the revision? |
| 18:40 | <And1> | Hm maybe. Or it maybe is the port of the graphics card and not even the monitor or something like that. |
| 18:40 | <ml|> | you could switch the cables around and see if you same results or different |
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| 18:40 | <ml|> | *get |
| 18:40 | <And1> | Yup, wanted to do so. But I think I don't want to do it while the pc is running, mh? |
| 18:41 | <ml|> | try switching ports too |
| 18:41 | <ml|> | I don't think anything can happen; best to do will everything is off |
| 18:41 | <ml|> | s/will/with/ |
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| 19:19 | <aguitel> | anyone use epsaoncx 5600 ? |
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| 19:19 | <aguitel> | anyone use Epson cx5600 |
| 19:20 | <tha-infamous> | adb how to mount my win partitions |
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| 19:22 | <adb> | !tell tha-infamous user accessible ntfs |
| 19:22 | <adb> | !tell tha-infamous ntfs-3g |
| 19:22 | <ml|> | adb: about |
| 19:23 | <adb> | !tell tha-infamous about ntfs-3g |
| 19:23 | <adb> | !tell tha-infamous -about user accessible ntfs |
| 19:23 | <adb> | ml|, thanks |
| 19:23 | <ml|> | np |
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| 19:28 | <malaphus> | Where should I install grub on a macbook pro, dual booting mac osx and debian |
| 19:29 | <malaphus> | I tried MBR, fail... I tried my root partition for debian, fail |
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| 19:29 | <jhutchins_lt> | malaphus: Not sure you can do that. |
| 19:29 | <jhutchins_lt> | malaphus: I think you need a Mac bootmanager. (Trying to remember the name.) |
| 19:29 | <ml|> | malaphus: did you read the wiki links from before? |
| 19:29 | <malaphus> | refit? I have refit |
| 19:30 | <malaphus> | Yep |
| 19:30 | <ml|> | yeah |
| 19:30 | <malaphus> | I have refit now |
| 19:30 | <malaphus> | and linux shows up in the refit menu |
| 19:30 | <malaphus> | but when I select it, "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key" |
| 19:30 | <jhutchins_lt> | malaphus: Then doesn't boot? What version of grub? |
| 19:30 | <ml|> | should boot then |
| 19:30 | <malaphus> | whatever is with 5.0.3 |
| 19:31 | <malaphus> | where should grub be installed? |
| 19:31 | <malaphus> | or do I not want grub at all? |
| 19:31 | <ml|> | malaphus: aptitude show grub or grub-legacy should tell you |
| 19:31 | <jhutchins_lt> | malaphus: It can't be installed to the root of the disk or you'd wipe out refit. |
| 19:32 | <jhutchins_lt> | malaphus: Still need grub. |
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| 19:32 | <ml|> | the wiki should cover all this |
| 19:32 | <malaphus> | so I install grub on the root of the debian partition? |
| 19:32 | <malaphus> | im on a different PC now, can you link it again? |
| 19:33 | <ml|> | malaphus: /msg dpkg macbook and macbookpro |
| 19:33 | <jhutchins_lt> | malaphus: Yes, the debian root partiton. |
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| 19:36 | <aguitel> | anyone use Epson cx5600 ? |
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| 19:37 | <ml|> | !anyone |
| 19:37 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 19:37 | <aguitel> | how install epson cx5600 in squeeze |
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| 19:38 | <ml|> | aguitel: didn't some people here help you with that already? |
| 19:39 | <aguitel> | ml|, with lexmark |
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| 19:39 | <ml|> | follow the same procedure then |
| 19:39 | <aguitel> | ml|, some printers are complicated in linux |
| 19:40 | <aguitel> | ml|, the problem is about the scaner |
| 19:40 | <ml|> | reason to buy linux compatible hardware |
| 19:40 | <aguitel> | to late |
| 19:40 | <ml|> | heh |
| 19:41 | <ml|> | aguitel: /msg dpkg xane ; might help |
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| 19:42 | <ml|> | aguitel: /msg dpkg xsane ; might help * |
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| 19:47 | <malaphus> | OK so, its booting debian now, but in order to boot debian I have to hold OPTION button and select "Windows" from the bootcamp screen |
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| 19:47 | <malaphus> | boggle |
| 19:48 | <ml|> | malaphus: iirc you can change in refit to always show the menu |
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| 19:49 | <ml|> | and also change the icon to a linux/tux on instead |
| 19:49 | <ml|> | s/on/icon/ |
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| 20:04 | <thx1138> | hi everyone |
| 20:05 | <thx1138> | i'm looking for some help with nc and win shell |
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| 20:07 | <thx1138> | pleasee help me someone i have a shell on a remote pc and i can't transfer via nc |
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| 20:08 | <bremner> | !tell thx1138 about windows |
| 20:08 | <bremner> | well, that wasn't helpful. This is not a windows support channel, thx1138 |
| 20:08 | <thx1138> | i am using backtrack |
| 20:08 | <ml|> | !backtrack |
| 20:08 | <dpkg> | BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 20:09 | <ml|> | that windows factiod :) |
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| 20:10 | <thx1138> | can you direct me then at least? haven't been using mirc for a looooooooong time |
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| 20:10 | <thx1138> | where can i get some help? |
| 20:10 | <bremner> | thx1138: did you read what dpkg the bot wrote? |
| 20:11 | <thx1138> | yes |
| 20:11 | <ml|> | thx1138: /server irc.freenode.net then after connected /join #backtrack-linux |
| 20:11 | <thx1138> | so? 8-| |
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| 20:11 | <thx1138> | ok thx |
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| 20:12 | <kfst> | my favourite is when someone joins to a random #debian channel with "555_H4cK_666"-like name, and asks why can't find winamp in kubuntu or sthing :D |
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| 20:13 | <thx1138> | haha |
| 20:13 | <thx1138> | vlc :D |
| 20:13 | <Vampire> | Isn't winamp a KDE program? |
| 20:13 | <kfst> | not specifically you |
| 20:13 | * | Vampire is just joking |
| 20:13 | <kfst> | :) |
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| 20:16 | <kfst> | yesterday I met with the agressive "eLiTeHACK_17" who asked "HOW ON EARTH CAN I DECOMPRESS THOSE F***IN RAR FILES????????????!!!!!!!!!!!" |
| 20:16 | <kfst> | i love them |
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| 20:32 | <babilen> | !nickometer 555_H4cK_666 |
| 20:32 | <dpkg> | '555_H4cK_666' is 75.000% lame, babilen |
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| 20:35 | <kfst> | wtf nickometer |
| 20:35 | <kfst> | !nickometer kfst |
| 20:35 | <dpkg> | 'kfst' is 0.000% lame, kfst |
| 20:35 | <kfst> | :'( |
| 20:35 | <kfst> | !nickometer eLiTeHACK_17 |
| 20:35 | <dpkg> | 'eLiTeHACK_17' is 99.820% lame, kfst |
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| 20:36 | <edhunter> | heh nice feature |
| 20:36 | <kfst> | !nickometer LinusTorvalds |
| 20:36 | <dpkg> | 'LinusTorvalds' is 0.000% lame, kfst |
| 20:36 | <kfst> | !nickometer BillGates |
| 20:36 | <dpkg> | 'BillGates' is 0.000% lame, kfst |
| 20:36 | <kfst> | bug |
| 20:38 | <adb> | kfst, wtf , stop it .please |
| 20:38 | <kfst> | :'( |
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| 21:34 | <alvarezp> | In Debian Sid, I can no longer burn CDs and the camera folder doesn't appear automatically (I have to use gphoto2 from the CLI). |
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| 21:34 | <alvarezp> | I would like to know if the current state is broken for some things or not. |
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| 21:36 | <bremner> | alvarezp: did you check the BTS? |
| 21:36 | * | bremner thinks of IT Crowd |
| 21:36 | <alvarezp> | bremner: for what package? |
| 21:37 | <bremner> | alvarezp: what application is broken? |
| 21:37 | <alvarezp> | bremner: None I tried recently for burning. |
| 21:37 | <alvarezp> | brasero, nautilus... I think I tried k9copy |
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| 21:39 | <bremner> | I suppose wodim is the obvious suspect |
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| 21:41 | <alvarezp> | bremner: so, is brasero and nautilus a front-end for wodim? |
| 21:41 | <bremner> | alvarezp: I just looked at apt-cache depends brasero |
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| 21:42 | <alvarezp> | ok |
| 21:42 | <bremner> | actually I looked at apt-cache show brasero |
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| 21:44 | <alvarezp> | bremner: what package does the camera-mounting thing? |
| 21:44 | <bremner> | maybe the sid version doesn't depend on wodim actually. |
| 21:44 | <bremner> | alvarezp: no idea about camera mounding |
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| 21:51 | <bremner> | alvarezp: yeah, brasero doesn't use wodim anymore. Maybe you can start by seeing if wodim works, the eliminates all of the bling libraries |
| 21:53 | <alvarezp> | ok |
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| 21:55 | <themoops> | how long do debian updates occur for? 2 years? |
| 21:55 | <themoops> | 3? |
| 21:55 | <themoops> | lenny |
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| 22:57 | <twb> | I installed apt-listchanges and then did an "aptitude safe-upgrade", but it didn't list the new changes |
| 22:57 | <twb> | What else do I have to do to make apt-listchanges integrate with apt-get/aptitude? |
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| 22:59 | <adb> | twb, wait a week or so |
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| 22:59 | <twb> | Hmm? |
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| 23:03 | <bgat> | will the squeeze version of iceowl and/or the iceowl icedove plugin sync with Google calendar? |
| 23:03 | <bgat> | ... and if so, is there a URL I can consult? I can't seem to make it work after googling for a while myself... |
| 23:05 | <paranoidphreak> | hi everybody, i was just wondering if amd processors support x86 or something else? |
| 23:06 | <twb> | adb: I don't understand. |
| 23:06 | <adb> | twb, 'compare a new version of a package with the one currently installed', so as 'currently installed' are the same with 'new version' has nothing to compare |
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| 23:07 | <twb> | adb: um, they're not. I installed apt-listchanges two weeks ago, and I had pending changes. aptitude safe-upgrade was not a noop. |
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| 23:08 | <bgat> | paranoidphreak: the "typical" AMD processors are x86 and amd-64, but I think AMD also has a line of MIPS-based chips too |
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| 23:09 | <adb> | twb, i used it only whit apt-get install .. and worked |
| 23:09 | <twb> | Hm. |
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| 23:09 | <twb> | adb: I mean, I can see it *appears* to be integrated in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges |
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| 23:10 | <paranoidphreak> | bgat: ok, thanks, i'm planning on getting a new system and was thinking of trying amd for a change |
| 23:10 | <bgat> | paranoidphreak: I think your pocketbook will be very happy :) |
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| 23:11 | <twb> | adb: where is it supposed to list the changes? On the console where you're running apt-get, right? |
| 23:11 | <adb> | twb, that was some times ago , now i'm on lenny (on this machine) |
| 23:12 | <twb> | adb: hmm, "The default is to display only news." |
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| 23:13 | <twb> | Maybe no upgrades have had debian/NEWS files |
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| 23:14 | <adb> | twb, 'changelog and NEWS' |
| 23:14 | <paranoidphreak> | bgat: yup, intel took over the market and ppl got stuck in their mind intel is better than anything else |
| 23:15 | <adb> | twb, they come in apt-get install process . IIR |
| 23:15 | <bgat> | paranoidphreak: well, they *do* make pretty good chips; it's just that people seem to forget sometimes that AMD does too! |
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| 23:17 | <adb> | twb, oh, maybe i misread and think to apt-listbugs , sorry |
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| 23:26 | <twb> | adb: apt-listBUGS is working fine :-) |
| 23:27 | <twb> | I also wanted a way to abort when a "feature" gets brought in :-) |
| 23:28 | <adb> | twb, yes , but i saw bugs that's fakebugs too , so get false alerts |
| 23:29 | <adb> | s/ that's/ that are |
| 23:30 | <twb> | I can tolerate false positives |
| 23:32 | <twb> | adb: sweet, it works |
| 23:32 | <adb> | cool |
| 23:32 | <twb> | It now pops up w3m with clickable Closes:, showing the changes since the last install. |
| 23:32 | <twb> | Similar to hitting C in aptitude's GUI |
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| 23:45 | <jeff> | Anyone know why my intel Wifi card wouldn't be showning up in the Lenny network manager? |
| 23:45 | -!- | jeff is now known as Guest1827 |
| 23:46 | <twb> | Because NetworkManager is a steaming pile of crap. |
| 23:46 | <Guest1827> | Its a fairly standard card and it works with every other distro I've installed OOTB |
| 23:46 | <Guest1827> | What do you use twb? |
| 23:46 | <twb> | Because I'm a Real Man, I use wpasupplicant.conf, and if I need to add a new AP, I do it with an editor. |
| 23:47 | <twb> | But I'm given to understand that wicd and wifi-radar are less stupid than NM -- at the very least, they leave your 802.1 wired interfaces alone. |
| 23:47 | <Guest1827> | Heh WICD blows |
| 23:47 | <Guest1827> | Network manager is MUCH better |
| 23:47 | <Guest1827> | Going to try updating it |
| 23:48 | <Guest1827> | lspci lists my card so that means it is just an issue with NM-Applet |
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| 23:48 | <gsimmons> | Guest1827: At least confirm you have a wireless interface available (e.g. ifconfig -a), before you start debugging NetworkManager. |
| 23:49 | <Jeff91> | It is not listed in ifconfig gsimmons |
| 23:49 | <Jeff91> | Kernel issue then? |
| 23:50 | <gsimmons> | Jeff91: Lack of driver, probably. What is its PCI ID? |
| 23:51 | <Jeff91> | This info? 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5300 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection |
| 23:51 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell Jeff91 -about iwlagn |
| 23:51 | <sney> | firmware! |
| 23:52 | <gsimmons> | sney: No, driver too. :) |
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| 23:52 | <Jeff91> | dpkg: bpo |
| 23:52 | <dpkg> | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> |
| 23:52 | <sney> | ah, I always forget about the 2.6.26 thing because I run squeeze. |
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| 23:52 | <sney> | Jeff91: please /msg dpkg to reduce channel spam |
| 23:52 | <Jeff91> | So I just want to grab the newer kernel from backports then? |
| 23:53 | <sney> | yep |
| 23:53 | <Jeff91> | sney is there also a kernel in there that supports PAE? I need 4 gigs of RAM |
| 23:54 | <sney> | should be. look in the repo. |
| 23:54 | <Jeff91> | any idea what the name would have in it so I can apt-cache search? |
| 23:55 | <adb> | -bigmem ? |
| 23:55 | <adb> | PAE is xen ? |
| 23:55 | <adb> | !PAE |
| 23:56 | <dpkg> | Physical Address Extension (PAE) refers to a feature of x86 and x86-64 processors that allows more than 4 gibibytes (GiB) of physical memory to be used in 32-bit systems, given appropriate operating system support. The Linux kernel supports PAE starting from 2.6.x. It has full PAE support, enabling access of up to 64 GiB of memory on 32-bit machines. Ask me about <bigmem>. |
| 23:56 | <Jeff91> | found it, bigmem was it |
| --- | Log | closed Mon Mar 22 00:00:22 2010 |
