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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-03-24

---Logopened Wed Mar 24 00:00:16 2010
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00:05<se7en>OT i have a folder with many subfolder in some of the subfolder are *.zip files how would i unzip all of them in one go
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00:14<Miyavix3>Is iwlwifi in the non-free repositories: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free?
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00:16<gsimmons>Miyavix3: Yes, as 'firmware-iwlwifi'.
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00:18<Miyavix3>gsimmons: Thanks, as you can tell I suck at linux. I just want to move away from Ubuntu.
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01:23<BinaryMan>hello!
01:24<BinaryMan>i have some problems with debian-504-ia64-DVD-1.iso
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01:24<BinaryMan>MD5 is wrong
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01:26<servernoob>I'm currently trying to set up a dyndns to access my web server remotely, but I can't seem to connect using anything but the local ip address
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01:26<servernoob>I can't even connect using my external ip address
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01:27<servernoob>any suggestions?
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01:28<servernoob>i set up a static ip and am using the free services at dyndns.com for my domain name
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01:29<servernoob>but it does not seem to be working and I don't know what I am missing
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01:37<servernoob>anyone around?
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01:44<twb>I have a kiosk-type unit here, with a sound card and speakers in it. I wish to completely disable sound output -- in software, not hardware.
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01:45<twb>I imagine the best way to do this is by blacklisting snd_* modules in /etc/modprobe.d. Anybody know offhand which module(s) to disable?
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02:03<gsimmons>twb: Blacklisting soundcore (as in 'install soundcore /bin/true') will suffice, possibly snd-page-alloc and pcspkr too.
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02:11<Tenacity>services down?
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02:32<twb>gsimmons: sorry, yes, I just confirmed that.
02:32<twb>Only I used "install soundcore false", fwiw.
02:32<twb>"blacklist soundcore" didn't work.
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02:36<skynorton>anyone know the latest java runtime that works with debian?
02:36<skynorton>and what the package name is
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02:40<cahoot>aptitude serach jre?
02:40<cahoot>search
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02:42<twb>Depends what he means by "works with"
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02:44<skynorton>hmm. i have everything under jre installed.
02:44<cahoot>not to mention whate is meant with 'debian'
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02:45<jm_>maybe it's about browser where -plugin package is needed
02:46<skynorton>^ got it
02:46<skynorton>apparently iceweasel needed a specific version >_>
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04:17<addux>trying very unsuccessfully to install epsoin printer on deb amd_64bit
04:17<addux>can anybody provide assist?
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04:19<cahoot>addux: cups browserinterface doesn't do it?
04:20<cahoot>addux: linuxprinting.org might be a resource
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04:21<addux>cahoot de add1kt no i get an error that says pipslite-wrapper failed when I try to print
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04:22<addux>cahoot de add1kt I will try that site though
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05:20<Ox90>offline, thats not included in the installer shell. Any ideas how i can remove this vg to get debian to install?
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05:29<babilen>Ox90: Use a live CD? grml for example ..
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05:39*EmleyMoor has just installed BBC iPlayer Desktop, but it fails to run, with this message: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libgnomebreakpad.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
05:40<EmleyMoor>Do I perhaps need an ia32 lib for it?
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05:41<babilen>EmleyMoor: Yes - but it is not included in ia32-libs
05:41<babilen>EmleyMoor: You can search for packages by the file they include on packages.debian.org and with apt-file
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05:42<babilen>EmleyMoor: You might have to setup a 32bit chroot and execute the player within that
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05:42<babilen>EmleyMoor: And complain to BBC that they don't provide a 64bit version of iPlayer
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05:42<EmleyMoor>babilen: I don't think there is a package that contains the 32-bit of that - and I don't think a chroot will be at all practical
05:43<EmleyMoor>It's taken me ages to get to a poit where flash would work with AIR installed
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05:43<babilen>EmleyMoor: Yes, there is none. The lib is shipped with bug-buddy and is not available in the 32bit compatibility packages
05:43<babilen>AIR?
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05:44<EmleyMoor>Adobe Integrated Runtime - required for iPlayer Desktop
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05:46<babilen>ah
05:47<EmleyMoor>That is not available in 64-bit but will run OK
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05:50<EmleyMoor>Any other guidance available?
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05:55<themill>EmleyMoor: try it in a 32bit chroot?
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05:56<EmleyMoor>themill: I doubt that will be practical - it needs to be called from outside
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05:57<themill>EmleyMoor: you'd need to throw everything into the chroot and then use something like schroot to call into it as a user
05:58<EmleyMoor>themill: Yes, but I would find that impractical for other reasons
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06:01<themill>EmleyMoor: it would be a royal pita. But it would at least establish that it works etc :)
06:02<themill>EmleyMoor: by "everything" I mean iplayer and all its (recursive) dependencies. You can bind-mount $HOME into the schroot to have access to your files.
06:02<EmleyMoor>themill: I have experience with chroots and find the impracticality they cause outweighs any practical use
06:03<themill>*nod*
06:04<babilen>,info get-iplayer
06:04<judd>No record of package 'get-iplayer' in lenny/i386.
06:04<babilen>,info get-iplayer --release=squeeze
06:04<judd>get-iplayer (video, optional): download/stream available BBC iPlayer TV and radio programmes. Version: 2.68-1; Size: 126.3k; Installed: 488k; Homepage: http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/get-iplayer
06:04<EmleyMoor>get_iplayer is no longer of use
06:04<babilen>EmleyMoor: alright - haven't tried it, but wanted to mention it
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06:05<babilen>EmleyMoor: Why is it "no longer of use" ?
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06:06<EmleyMoor>babilen: No longer supported by its creator and the BBC have altered things in a way that means it won't work any more
06:06<babilen>*sigh*
06:06<babilen>EmleyMoor: Back to the "Write angry mails to BBC" part :(
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06:07<themill>EmleyMoor: get_iplayer is still working here for me... I think.
06:07<yow>hi room
06:07<yow>i wonder if anyone knows why rsync yields cd+++++++++ when the size, timestamp & permissions of two directories are identical?
06:08<EmleyMoor>themill: Well, any way it will, I can't get the corequisites it now needs
06:08<babilen>EmleyMoor: You might want to try downloading the 32bit libs and use LD_PRELOAD .. use dpkg -x to extract the deb
06:08<themill>EmleyMoor: ahh yes. the rtmp stuff is now harder to get and Aunty has changed the way the flash movies are encrypted or some such nonsense.
06:09<EmleyMoor>babilen: Perhaps - though I'm likely to need heavy guidance and even then it might be hard to get it called upon as needed
06:09<babilen>http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source
06:10<babilen>EmleyMoor: You asked for ideas :-\
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06:10<yow>anyone free to give any help, opinion or pointer to my previous question?
06:11<babilen>EmleyMoor: In a nutshell: (i) download 32bit bug-buddy deb, (ii) extract it to empty dir (dpkg -x <pkg>) (iii) LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/lib/foobar.so iplayer
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06:17<k-man>what is the debian way to set the prefered xorg resolution?
06:18<babilen>EmleyMoor: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install/ has an Ubuntu 64bit package
06:18<babilen>EmleyMoor: Not it does not :-\ gah!
06:20<babilen>EmleyMoor: You might want to place all libs in a certain directory and "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/said/dir/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
06:21<babilen>EmleyMoor: all libs == all missing 32bit libs
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06:46<bogard>ahoi, got some issues with my openvpn tap interface: according to most internet ressources its MAC address should be prefixed with 00:FF:, but upon creation I always get completely random hardware address ... don't think this behavior is the usual one, anyone got some pointers for me? searched the net, but didn't find anything helpful
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07:09<tamilo>hi
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07:14<padski>I need to run (preferably ipv4 in ipv4) tunnel across a consumer nat router, over the internet and then back across another consumer nat router. I hope to be able to port forward at the routers, but I am unlikely to be able to forward protocol=47 (GRE). stun would do just as well. there is a lot of mining kit in the archive. any suggestions ?
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07:17<bogard>padski: vtun, openvpn?
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07:18<padski>bogard, no crypto though, don't have enough cpu for crypto and don't need it.
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07:20<bogard>padski, for openvpn you may define "cipher none", dunno about vtun
07:20<padski>bogard, ah! thanks I hadn't though of looking for that sort of thing!
07:22<padski>I realise I'm looking for something like ipv4 in udp or ipv4 in tcp.
07:22<jm_>you want to forward it for all, not just for single apps?
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07:23<babilen>padski: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Tunneling_connections_securely_with_SSH ?
07:23<padski>jm_, a whole network
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07:23<babilen>padski: Ah, disregard that then
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07:23<padski>babilen, but no crypto
07:24<babilen>padski: You can select the algo used for crypto in ssh as well and even turn it off
07:24<padski>babilen, ah! in that case that may be my answer, since I already have a ssh (dropbear) on these boxes.
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07:26<padski>google is also telling me cipe. i seem to recall deciding not to use that in some previous project.
07:26<padski>thanks everyone, I think I getting closer!
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07:27<bogard>mh, ssh-tunneling is about tcp/udp tunneling, right? not well suited to tunnel ip-packets
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07:33<padski>bogard, *sigh* yes. been there before. I ended up doing ipsec last time, which is not right for this problem.
07:33<babilen>padski: It really sounds as if you want VPN
07:34<padski>babilen, the problem is very similar to the ipv6 problem, except I could do without ipv6 :-)
07:35<bogard>padski, what exactly didn't feel right? amount of config needed setting up ipsec? or the overall vpn strategy?
07:35<padski>babilen, but yes, it is to form a vpn, just no crypto (and I'm used to thinking of a vpn as having crypto).
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07:36<babilen>padski: You want a VPN to communicate securely most of the time, but you can turn that off
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07:36<padski>bogard, maybe I should go look at it again. the application I had just needed to pass ip through a crypto tunnel for two machines directly on the internet. ipsec was nice and simple.
07:37<EmleyMoor>I appear to have a failed disk - how do I remove it from the raid0 that part of it occupies? (I know the data is lost - it was unimportant data)
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07:37<padski>babilen, yes, crypto is a luxury we can't afford, endpoints will have to do their own if they want it.
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07:37<bogard>never tried ipsec since the sayings about it never mentioned nice and simple in any way ;)
07:37<EmleyMoor>(it is out of the raid1 and raid6)
07:37<padski>bogard, in it's simplest form it is.
07:38<babilen>padski: hehe - good luck and hope you can enjoy the tinkering
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07:39<bogard>padski, just can tell openvpn is quite simple and very effective, and it seems to be appropriate to your problem
07:40<padski>bogard, thanks, I will go look at that then.
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07:55<tuxcrafter>hi all did i do this pinning correct?
07:55<tuxcrafter>http://debian.pastebin.com/tZDVNpBz
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07:56<lancelot_of>hi all
07:58<lancelot_of>my wlan stopped working yesterday morning, no chenges affected network conf files, wlan modules being loaded in the kernel. Really dunno what happens. The wlan recognize all available networks but it does not connect to my home one, all parameters (essid, key) being correctly setted in /etc/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant.comf. Please help, any suggestion?
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08:00<lancelot_of>/etc/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant.conf, of course :D
08:01<lancelot_of>running debian testing, kernel 2.6.32-3-686
08:01<lancelot_of>but with other kernels (2.6.32-2 or 2.6.33) the same happens
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08:04<zX>hi anyone able to help me with a eth0 problem?
08:05<lancelot_of>zX just ask
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08:05<lancelot_of>!ask
08:05<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
08:05<zX>i keep getting sky2 eth0 :tx timeout
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08:13<Ox90>zX, what is the output of: ifconfig eth0
08:13<EmleyMoor>One of my RAID arrays, a RAID0, has been destroyed. I need to recreate it - all I can get it to do right now is report its size as 0
08:14<Ox90>Raid 0 provides no redundancy
08:15<EmleyMoor>No, but it does provide size, which is what I need it for
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08:15<zX>Ox90, do you want me to paste in here or in a msg?
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08:18<Ox90>pastebin.org please
08:18<Ox90>EmleyMoor, can you fail all the disks, stop the array and re-create?
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08:19<zX>Ox90, done
08:20<Ox90>url?
08:20<Ox90>nvm, gotcha
08:20<zX>kk
08:20<EmleyMoor>Ox90: Not immediately as I am being pressed for lunch - but will try that
08:21<Ox90>ok so your nic is connected and passing data, can you ping other machines on the LAN?
08:22<Ox90>when do you recieve the timeout error?
08:22<zX>it is atm yer
08:22<zX>it does it after about 20hours uptime
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08:23<Ox90>address given by DHCP?
08:23<EmleyMoor>I can't fail any of them: mdadm: set device faulty failed for /dev/sda3: No such device
08:23<zX>yep, also does it when i give it a static address
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08:23<Ox90>ahh ok
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08:37<zX>any ideas?
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08:43<tuxcrafter>somebody that want to comment on my above question on the apt-pinning?
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08:44<adb>tuxcrafter, don't use it ;) , use bacports
08:45<adb>s/bacports /backports
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08:46<seraphim>hi there
08:46<seraphim>do you need another http mirror for the debian images hosted in germany?
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08:53<hardisk>Hi
08:53<hardisk>I have an issue with a Debian 5 server
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08:53<hardisk>Since yesterday night, i can't joint the server, either with firefox or a simple ping
08:53<hardisk>but
08:54<hardisk>I can ping it local ip address (192.168.0.11)
08:54<hardisk>and the server can ping google.r
08:54<hardisk>google.fr*
08:54<hardisk>so yeah the server is connected to the internet, local ping work, why is this happening?
08:56<padski>hardisk, you can ping it by ip address but not by name ?
08:57<hardisk>i'm sorry what?
08:57<hardisk>oh you mean
08:57<hardisk>no
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08:57<padski>!fr
08:57<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
08:57<padski>if that helps
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08:58<hardisk>either i ping the DNS of the server or it IP adress it don't work
08:58<hardisk>yeah I posted in the french chan too
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08:58<padski>hardisk so what is on 192.168.0.11 ?
08:58<hardisk>oh you mean local ip
08:58<hardisk>when I ping it , it work
08:58<hardisk>when I ping the generic IP , It dont
08:59<padski>hardisk, the server has a local ip and an internet ip ?
08:59<hardisk>yes
09:00<hardisk>when I type in : 192.168.0.11 in my browser, it works
09:00<hardisk>ssh work too
09:00<padski>and you are pinging from another machine ? how do packets get from there to the server, through a switch or router ?
09:00<hardisk>I have two different ADSL connection at home
09:00<hardisk>i'm talking to you with the first one, the server is not on it
09:01<hardisk>the server get it internet acces from a router (french ADSL box)
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09:01<hardisk>when I connect to the ADSL connection where the server is, I can acces to it via local IP
09:01<padski>hardisk, interesting. so your traffic to the server's internet ip has to go out through one adsl and back in on the other ?
09:01<hardisk>non
09:01<hardisk>no*
09:01<hardisk>they are not linked
09:02<padski>by the internet ?
09:02<hardisk>I have 1 internet connection for domestic use, and another one for the server
09:02<hardisk>the server is linked to the internet :p
09:02<padski>so when you are on the domestic net pinging the server address what do you see ?
09:02<hardisk>nothing
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09:03<padski>and that is what you expect ?
09:03<hardisk>when i'm on the domestic net, I cant of course ping the server local address, so I ping his internet IP and it don't work
09:03<padski>hardisk, what does traceroute tell you ?
09:03<hardisk>well I expect it to work ^^ like you know.. I type the DNS/Internet IP of it in any computer and I have apache answering by exemple
09:03<hardisk>or even ping working
09:04<hardisk>don't know
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09:04<hardisk>where do I have to traceroute? from the server?
09:04<padski>hardisk, from your domestic net
09:04<hardisk>mom
09:05<padski>heh
09:05<hardisk>oO
09:05<hardisk>apparently working
09:05<hardisk>mom, I pastebin the answer
09:06<hardisk>http://pastebin.com/uHb6aiVW
09:06<hardisk>this is so weird...
09:06<hardisk>ping still don't work
09:07<hardisk>hardisk@hardisk-desktop:~$ ping 69.65.19.125
09:07<hardisk>PING 69.65.19.125 (69.65.19.125) 56(84) bytes of data.
09:07<padski>so the last response is from an isp router ?
09:07<hardisk>?
09:07<hardisk>(btw, checked /var/log, i'm not under a ddos attack or something)
09:07<padski>hardisk, does your server adsl router respond to a ping ?
09:08<hardisk>I don't know
09:08<hardisk>but internet work on it
09:08<hardisk>so I suppose it work
09:08<padski>try it
09:08<hardisk>yep
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09:09<hardisk>yes, it work
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09:11<aguitel>i make fresh install (netinstall) of squeeze and i have the kernel :2.6.32-trunk-686 ,what is this ?
09:12<padski>hardisk, interesting, can you pastebin a traceroute to the adsl router ?
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09:12<hardisk>yeah sur gimme a moment
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09:14<babilen_away>aguitel: Do you have "linux-image-2.6-686" installed? If yes, just upgrade, reboot into the the new kernel (make sure that you do) and remove the -trunk- package
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09:15<babilen_away>aguitel: It should install linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 - See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=568160
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09:15<babilen_away>,depends linux-image-2.6-686
09:15<judd>linux-image-2.6-686 -- depends: linux-image-2.6.26-2-686.
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09:15<babilen>aguitel: ^^^
09:15<aguitel>babilen_away, i have installed linux-image-2.6.26-3-686 too
09:16<babilen>!tell aguitel -about kernel abi
09:17<babilen>,versions linux-image-2.6.26-3-686
09:17<judd>Sorry, no package named 'linux-image-2.6.26-3-686' was found.
09:17<babilen>aguitel: Where did you get that package?
09:18<aguitel>babilen, wait
09:18<babilen>aguitel: Paste the output of "aptitude search ~i~n^linux-image" please
09:18<aguitel>babilen, ok
09:19<babilen>aguitel: Also "apt-cache policy"
09:20<babilen>,depends linux-image-2.6-686 --release=squeeze
09:20<judd>linux-image-2.6-686 -- depends: linux-image-2.6.32-3-686.
09:20<babilen>aguitel: Do you mean that one ^^^^ ?
09:20<aguitel>apt-cache policy
09:20<babilen>aguitel: Sorry - i forgot that you installed squeeze
09:20<aguitel>Package files:
09:20<aguitel> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
09:20<aguitel> release a=now
09:20<aguitel> 500 ftp://ftp.ccc.uba.ar squeeze/main Packages
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09:22*babilen waits
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09:23<babilen>!tell aguitel -about pastebin
09:24<aguitel>babilen, i know pastebin
09:24<aguitel>babilen, sorry
09:24<babilen>aguitel: Great -> Use it :)
09:24<babilen>aguitel: But i guess that i don't have to see your output - you should boot into the -3- kernel, remove the -trunk- kernel and everything should be fine
09:25<babilen>aguitel: You just have to make sure that you don't boot the -trunk- kernel, because that one is still the default choice, even though a newer (-3-) version has been installed. See the bug report for details
09:26<aguitel>babilen, i f delete the trunk i only have 1 kernel
09:26<aguitel>babilen, 1 kernel to boot
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09:26<aguitel>babilen, 2.6.32-3-686
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09:26<babilen>aguitel: Ah, ok - Then install "linux-image-2.6-686" which is a metapackage that always depends on the lates kernel version (i.e. -3- at the moment)
09:27<aguitel>a ok
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09:27<babilen>aguitel: The problem with the -trunk- package is that it is still the default package booted by grub, even though there is a newer kernel ..
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09:27<aguitel>babilen, i have installed
09:28<aguitel>babilen, yes
09:28<babilen>aguitel: Ok, could you show me the output of "aptitude search ~i~n^linux-image" just to make sure?
09:28<babilen>(pastebin) ;)
09:28<aguitel>babilen, ok
09:29<aguitel>babilen, http://pastebin.com/y8iNYkGA
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09:30<babilen>aguitel: Yes, that looks great. Now boot the -3- kernel (you have to select that manually) and remove the -trunk- package
09:30<babilen>sorry for the inconvenience
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09:31<aguitel>babilen, i booted
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09:31<aguitel>babilen, i am in this kernel now
09:32<babilen>this == -3- ?
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09:32<babilen>uname -r ?
09:32<aguitel>babilen, uname -r
09:32<aguitel>2.6.32-3-686
09:32<babilen>If yes --> "aptitude remove linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686"
09:33<aguitel>babilen, ok
09:33<Ox90>OT Question, im a little worried about my raid array. Its a hardware controlled raid 5. Shouldn't all the lights flash at the same time?
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09:48<EmleyMoor>I have partitions on my hard discs that are intended to form a raid0. There was a problem and it is no longer usable. How do I remake it?
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09:50<EmleyMoor>It looks like I have an actual fault in progress...
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09:51<petar>how do i remove nfs and its chain of dependencies (RPC for example) on a default lenny installation? when i do `sudo apt-get autoremove nfs-common' it just tries to remove one package..
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10:20<TheKnight_>my wlan stopped working yesterday morning, no chenges affected network conf files, wlan modules being loaded in the kernel. Really dunno what happens. The wlan recognize all available networks but it does not connect to my home one, all parameters (essid, key) being correctly setted in /etc/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant.comf. Please help, any suggestion?
10:20<TheKnight_>/etc/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant.conf, of course :D
10:20<TheKnight_>running debian testing, kernel 2.6.32-3-686
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10:21<TheKnight_>anything wrong in my question?
10:23<babilen>TheKnight_: Paste your /var/log/daemon.log - You might want to take the interface down, remove/insert the module and take it up again. Also make sure that wpa_* and dhclient3 processes are not running when the interface is down. You might have to kill them
10:23<@Ganneff>!paste
10:23<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>.
10:24<babilen>TheKnight_: The best way would be to follow the steps i've outlined above and "tail -f /var/log/daemon.log" to see what is happening. You can then paste the applicable output to a pastebin
10:26<TheKnight_>babilen, the /var/log/daemon.log is too big to pastebin it
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10:26<TheKnight_>babilen, so i'll follow as you suggested above, i'll back in a while
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10:27<ismael>hello
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10:27<zumbi>!hi
10:27<dpkg>hello, zumbi
10:28<zumbi>why iceweasel opens PDF file with gimp... grgrgr
10:28<ismael>as these?
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10:29<ismael>Well or badly?
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10:29<zumbi>badly
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10:30<zumbi>ismael: well, but i want it to be opened with some other application like evince
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10:30<ismael>ok
10:31<ismael>for that?
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10:36<lancelot_of>babilen, dunno how to paste the output of that command
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10:38<babilen>lancelot_of: install pastebinit and "pastebinit /var/log/daemon.log" or just copy+paste the relevant lines
10:38<babilen>lancelot_of: (assuming you are The_Knight)
10:38<lancelot_of>babilen, the file /var/log/daemon.log is too big
10:39<lancelot_of>babilen, yes it's me
10:39<lancelot_of>:)
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10:39<babilen>then "tail -n 100 /var/log/daemon.log |pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.org" (check if 100 lines are enough)
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10:40<babilen>and change paste.debian.org to paste.debian.net :-\
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10:41<babilen>is pastebinit complaining about the size?
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10:43<yow>hi there, for those who remember my last 2 questions which i posted about 5 hours ago regarding rsync, i just want to report my latest findings, i.e. it's my mistake. the paths were too long and I didsn't realise that I misspelled a word. sorry for the confusion. thanks for your help, anyway.
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10:43<EmleyMoor>I want to clear three partitions that used to be part of a 4-partition raid0 and use them as a 3-partition raid0 - how can I do that? Assume the partitions are there but make no sense
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10:46<lancelot_of>babilen, http://paste.debian.net/65733/
10:46<lancelot_of>babilen, the network i have to connect to is Alice-52501134
10:46<lancelot_of>in that file
10:47<babilen>lancelot_of: Yes, i figured that out
10:47<lancelot_of>babilen, i've followed the steps you suggested above: 1)ifdown wlan 2) kill any dhclient3/wpa process 3)rmmod/modprobe module in the kernel
10:48<babilen>do you have G604_WIRELESS in your wpa_supplicant.conf as well?
10:48<lancelot_of>babilen, yes i do
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10:48<lancelot_of>babilen, so as the other mentioned networks
10:48<babilen>and you are sure that the pki is still correct?
10:48<MayskiyJuk>hi all! does anyony use liferea in testing?
10:48<lancelot_of>babilen, 100% sure
10:49<lancelot_of>MayskiyJuk, !ask
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10:49<meowcats>lancelot_of can you check the router logs?
10:50<lancelot_of>meowcats, hmm...dunno let me try
10:50<babilen>lancelot_of: I've seen this only when I could not authenticate with the AP - it helped sometimes to reboot (no idea why)
10:50<babilen>lancelot_of: But try to check your AP logs
10:50<lancelot_of>babilen, how to?
10:51<lancelot_of>babilen, however i've just rebooted several times
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10:51<babilen>alright ... hmm
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10:52<babilen>This is the roaming configuration, right?
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10:52<MayskiyJuk>is font changing works well in liferea in testing? my liferea doesn't change it, even setting the font via liferea.css
10:52<lancelot_of>meowcats, it seems to me i can't access router logs
10:52<lancelot_of>babilen, yes it is
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10:53<My-Computer>Im intrested on getting debian 5.0 however I would like to try it before installing is there a live cd for that
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10:53<aguitel>anyway to install google-chrome in squeeze with repository ?
10:53<Mady>what?
10:54<Mady>#colegio-aljarafe
10:54<lancelot_of>aguitel, google-chrome has nothing to do with the levels firefox has reached in the time...so it seems to me a bad choice for your debian system
10:55<lancelot_of>aguitel, in my opinion, of course
10:55<aguitel>lancelot_of, you are talking about iceweasel ?
10:55<babilen>lancelot_of: Well, I'm not sure how to proceed. I've typically seen this when there were wpa_* processes still running after i've ifdown wlan0 or when the passphrase was wrong. Please (i) /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop (ii) modprobe -r <your_module> (iii) killall wpa_{supplicant,cli} dhclient3 (iv) ifup wlan0
10:55<lancelot_of>aguitel, however answering to your question, no there's not any repository for chrome
10:56<babilen>lancelot_of: Ah, start with (i) ifdown wlan0
10:56<lancelot_of>aguitel, yes but even about firefox (not officially supported)
10:56<aguitel>lancelot_of, ok
10:56<My-Computer>the live cd i have seems to be dedicated on installing verses trying prior to installing is there a way to get in to avoid this for debian 5.0
10:56<babilen>and let me have a look again - it might also help to temporarily remove every configuration except the one for *ALICE* from wpa_supplicant.conf
10:56<lancelot_of>babilen, ok, just going to try
10:57<babilen>lancelot_of: That should make the output more readable
10:57<lancelot_of>babilen, should i start with that last step?
10:57<lancelot_of>babilen, ok i'm going to remove any other conf
10:57<babilen>lancelot_of: yeah, why not
10:57<babilen>lancelot_of: just comment them :)
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10:58<lancelot_of>babilen, of course ;)
10:58<babilen>lancelot_of: you German?
10:59<lancelot_of>babilen, no, italian
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10:59<babilen>yes - just seen your hostmask (there is a big ALICE ISP in Germany, that's why)
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11:01<babilen>AlVaRiToOo: Stop /msg me "OLA"
11:01<lancelot_of>babilen, i need to reload wlan module in order to restart it via ifup, right?
11:02-!-mode/#debian [+o Ganneff] by ChanServ
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11:02<babilen>lancelot_of: I typically do this in these situations (modprobe -r <module> && killall wpa_{supplicant,cli} dhclient3 && modprobe <module>)
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11:03<babilen>Ganneff: thank you
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11:05<lancelot_of>babilen, http://paste.debian.net/65736/
11:05<lancelot_of>nothing changes
11:05<gsimmons>lancelot_of: Didn't you experience a similar association issue before, WRT rt2860sta and wpa_supplicant in managed mode? You resolved that by purging network-manager.
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11:07<lancelot_of>gsimmons, network-manager is not installed on my system
11:07<babilen>we would have nm related logs in daemon.log as well if it were
11:07-!-mode/#debian [-b AlVaRiToOo!*@*] by Ganneff
11:07<lancelot_of>gsimmons, yes i did in the past and i resolved as you remember but now i have this trouble another time and dunno why
11:07<babilen>lancelot_of: Could you try changing the PKI?
11:08<babilen>PKS that is
11:08<lancelot_of>babilen, changing PSK in order to set a wrong one?
11:08<babilen>argh! The pre shared key (PSK) passphrase, magic word, fulio entrando ... whatever
11:09<babilen>lancelot_of: No, in order to make sure that your router *and* your configuration are using the same one ...
11:09<babilen>lancelot_of: But comparing the output against a "i'm sure the PSK is wrong" run might be worth a look too
11:09<lancelot_of>babilen, so should i change the PSK both in router settings and in wpasupplicant?
11:09<babilen>lancelot_of: You could also temporarily disable the encryption ...
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11:09<babilen>lancelot_of: Yes, just to make sure ...
11:09<ml|>aguitel: you can install google chrome from here ... http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux will also install their repo on your system to update; but this not supported here, so if you have any issuses you need to ask google not here
11:10<babilen>lancelot_of: Sorry - I'm out of ideas :-(
11:10<gsimmons>lancelot_of: Try using wpa_supplicant in managed mode.
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11:11<aguitel>ml|, i did
11:11<aguitel>ml|, thanks
11:11<ml|>ok, incase you did not know
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11:12<usuario>hola
11:13<usuario>hola
11:13<usuario>hola
11:13<usuario>hola
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11:14<lancelot_of>babilen, ok, disabling passfrase wlan works
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11:15<lancelot_of>gsimmons, ^^
11:15<babilen>lancelot_of: It would have been *really* strange if not
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11:16<lancelot_of>so the problem is in managing PSK i guess...but i checked several times for PSK correctness and it's correct. Both wpasupplicant PSK and router one match
11:16<bja>usuario: tienes un mensaje privado atiendelo
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11:16<LineOf7s>Hey. Uninstalled a package on my sarge box (using aptitude), and then every command gave me libc.so.6 errors. Using a live cd I managed to replace the file it points to, and redo the symlink, but I can't it it to boot past "Freeing kernel memory". Been bashing my head against it for some hours. Help?
11:17<bja>Ganneff: there is a silence on Alvarito also, let the ban insitu, no use having the silence also
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11:19<lancelot_of>babilen, ok now even with passphrase all works
11:19<babilen>lancelot_of: o_O .... well
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11:20<babilen>lancelot_of: One of those: "I'm quite sure I ended up where i started, but it works now. WTF"-moments ...
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11:21<babilen>lancelot_of: But it's working now - It might have really been the PSK. You've changed those didn't you?
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11:39<hitman>hi...can anyone teach me hacking
11:40<hitman>hi ganneff
11:40<bja>hitman: First you need to read, second, you need to read third, you need to ask specific questions
11:40<hitman>i want to hack through any open ports but i was not able to find much on that
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11:41<locklace>!next
11:41<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
11:41<bzed>!fail
11:41<jmm>note to self, ifconfig eth0 tun0 , doesn't show eth0 and tun0 configuration.
11:41<jmm>ewwwwwwwwwwwww :(
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11:42<bzed>jmm: what happens instead? :)
11:42<hitman>can you tell me pls
11:42<jmm>since I've been disconected from that production server, I guess it reconfig eth0 .
11:42<@Ganneff>hitman: you managed to dial back in. "congrats". now you want to simply learn how systems are. and no, we can not tell you to hack. dont even try.
11:43<hitman>sorry i thought these channels are where hackers chat
11:43<bzed>jmm: I think it tries to resolve the IP of 'tun0' and use the result as IP of eth0
11:43<hitman>i went through so many diffilulties to install backtrack and find you guyz
11:44<themill>hitman: then you're in the wrong place.
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11:44<ml|>hitman: #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net
11:44<hitman>can you tell me some place where i can learn hacking??and what do you guyz do here??
11:44<jmm>bzed: I think so. I was connected to that computer on tun0.
11:44<themill>!bt4 magic
11:44<themill>!bt4-magic
11:44<dpkg>BackTrack is just an operating system. It does not magically turn you into a hacker. It is also offtopic in #debian. Please fulfill your fantasies in #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net.
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11:45<themill>hitman: ^^
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11:45<themill>hitman: please don't message me.
11:45<hitman>sry bye
11:45<@Ganneff>if you have to ask how to hack you already demonstrated you do not have any clue about it and shouldnt try...
11:45<the-dude>*g*
11:46<hitman>sry bye...but tell me what do you guyz talk about here??
11:46<hitman>what can i learn here
11:46<ml|>take a guess? debian
11:46<babilen>hitman: Technical support for *Debian* users
11:46<hitman>ok thanks
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12:01<piksta>Hi all! Do anyone have a clue about what's going on? After I changed the user password, Evolution and some other programs don't have access to the default keyring until I type in the old password.
12:02<piksta>I don't understand the reason of that.
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12:08<babilen>piksta: Check out gnome-keyring-manager
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12:10<ghostback>k onda a todos
12:10<babilen>piksta: ah - not in debian ...
12:10<piksta>babilen, There is no such thing installed on my system. Neither can I find out which package to install in order to obtain this program.
12:10<piksta>babilen, Exactly :)
12:10<babilen>piksta: yes, you are correct. It is related to your gnome-keyring though - We just have to find a way to reset that password
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12:12<babilen>piksta: Right - g-k-m is obsolete and was removed, because it's functionality is provided by seahorse these days
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12:13<Lantizia>Anyone using the DTC panel in the repo's? or knows of an official IRC channel?
12:13<piksta>babilen, I've deleted all keys in seahorse, and now it works as it should, except I have to re-enter all my passwords.
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12:13<piksta>babilen, thanks!
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12:13<babilen>piksta: Well, that's a solution as well. ;-\
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12:14<piksta>babilen, Was there a smarter solution? It would be nice to know for the next time I will change my password.
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12:15<babilen>piksta: I haven't found one yet and stopped working on that
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12:15<piksta>babilen, thanks anyway.
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12:16<babilen>piksta: I guess it is "Passwords tab -> Passwords:login (right click) -> change password
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12:18<vhann>Hi, I just successfully set up a VPN between my two distant Debian Lenny boxes. I would now like to start the openvpn daemon at startup. What is the right way to have the script I'll create in /etc/init.d be run only after the network is up?
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12:19<piksta>babilen, aaaah! That was actually pretty logical :) I have to make myself think a couple of seconds next time, instead of to chop straight off...
12:20<vhann>Sorry guys, just found the info in man update-rc.d
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12:28<gsimmons>vhann: Debian's openvpn package provides /etc/network/interfaces integration, see its README.Debian.
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12:33<vhann>gsimmons: Wow, thanks for the info :D
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12:35<majo>ayuda debian en español please
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12:35<majo>ayuda debian en español please---irc
12:35<@Ganneff>!es
12:35<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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12:38<vhann>gsimmons: So the 'openvpn a' option in /etc/network/interfaces would mean to use /etc/openvpn/a.conf as the configuration file, right?
12:38<buques>#colegio-aljarafe
12:40<gsimmons>vhann: That's right. You can also specify multiple configuration names on the same line.
12:40<vhann>gsimmons: Thanks a lot man :)
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12:52<Mady>Hi
12:52<Mady>Who here is london?
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13:00<Lanz>London, Ontario
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13:03<retrospectacus>so I have a Debian box (Lenny I believe) and the hard drive was full (40G) so I got a TB drive, plugged both into this machine (Squeeze) and copied and grew the partitions from the 40 to the 1000 using gparted
13:04<retrospectacus>it all went fine, and I set the "boot" flag on the / partition like it is on the old drive
13:04<retrospectacus>however the machine does not boot now
13:05<retrospectacus>is there some step I missed?
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13:08<ml|>retrospectacus: so you are only using the new drive now?
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13:11<retrospectacus>ml| correct
13:11<ml|>did you install grub to mbr on new drive?
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13:12<retrospectacus>the machine will not even get to grub or anything, it stops with no message at all sometime right after the mobo messages
13:12<retrospectacus>ummm no
13:12<retrospectacus>how do I do that?
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13:13<ml|>there are several ways, with a livecd and you need to install grub2
13:14<retrospectacus>grub2? Pretty sure it had grub-legacy before
13:15<retrospectacus>let's see if I have any livecds here
13:15<ml|>you sure? testing uses grub2 iirc
13:16<retrospectacus>debian was installed on it many years ago, probably when etch was testing. It's been upgraded to Lenny. Squeeze is on _this_ machine which I used to do the partition copying
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13:17<Mady>#colegio-aljarafe
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13:18<ml|>retrospectacus: while you are there edit fstab if needed as well
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13:20<retrospectacus>I have an old Puppy CD here... I will try my grub skillz
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13:25<ml|>retrospectacus: this should help ... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=48382 and I would use a grml for this or one that has grub2 already; I'm pretty sure that's what you had on there before, check if you have /boot/grub/grub.cfg = grub2
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13:27<ml|>I installing to mbr is all you should need, if you have all the right bits in /boot
13:27<bja>, hi
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13:31<azer>hello everybody
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13:32<azer>Forgive me for my bad english. I'm a french people.
13:32<azer>I've juste received my sheevaplug, and i'm looking for a tutorial that explain how to create a custom system based on debian lenny from my PC (i386 lenny)
13:33<Mady>¬¬
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13:33<azer>is sommeone knows how I can do taht ?
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13:35<sdk>Ok, so completely OT, but it's gotta be said. I'm VNCed from my Debian desktop into a Deb server installing Win2k8 on a virtual box using and ISO mounted -o loop on another strorage cluster.. :) Might be old hat for some, but is pretty cool to me. /OT
13:35<sdk>s/and ISO/an ISO/g
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13:36<uiop>Hi, Is it possible to setup a home server with dhcp service from the router? or do i really need to turn off DHCP?
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13:38<amphi>uiop: you can have the router always give the machine the same ip
13:38<sdk>uiop: if I understand you correctly, yes, so long as your router/switch/whatever can act as a DHCP server. What exactly are you trying to do?
13:38<paggas>sdk: Something like this? :) http://xkcd.com/676/
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13:39<sney>uiop: also, most commerical routers will let you set a static ip on a machine, so long as it doesn't overlap with the dhcp range.
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13:40<uiop>I'm trying to get run a server at home and I think i need a static ip? So i was wondering if i can keep dhcp from the router and just set a static ip for it server only
13:40<sney>I have a development web server on a network with a crappy linksys router, and I set that machine to 192.168.1.50, which is fine because dhcp only assigns between 192.168.1.100-200
13:40<sney>so, yes.
13:42<zedboy>or turn off the dhcp on the annoying router and tell your server to be the dhcp server.
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13:43<uiop><sney> did you set the static ip with using the router or ifconfig?
13:43<sney>uiop: with /etc/network/interfaces.
13:44<zedboy>ack! what the heck happened to tex?!
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13:45<uiop>neat! thanks for the info
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13:48<brayden>So if i have a server with 3 IPs, is there any sort of command in debian that can show me those IPs?
13:49<bja>ifconfig
13:49<brayden>ok
13:49<brayden>let me see
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13:50<brayden>bja, says command not found
13:50<bja>do it as root
13:51<bja>or /sbin/ifconfig
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13:52<brayden>bja, ok well it does show me an address, only one though, a hardware address, ipv6 address broadcast and mask
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13:52<brayden>I suppose i'm gonna have to ask the owner... maybe his host will have the mlisted
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14:02*retrospectacus grub skillz are lacking
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14:02*zedboy misses lilo
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14:03<retrospectacus>I got grub working and it trys to boot but it stops at "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
14:04<retrospectacus>sez "Cannot open root device sda1 or unknown-block(0,0)" but that is the / drive /dev/sda1
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14:05<zoi>where is a good place for hacker stuff?
14:05<Torsten_W>zoi, go away
14:05<Torsten_W>retrospectacus, missing initrd?
14:05<Mady>GO AWAY
14:06<Mady>bye
14:06<family>actually zoi google is your friend
14:06<dondelelcaro>retrospectacus: grub is woking properly; you've eithe not built you kernel correctly, your initd correctly, or something similar
14:06<zoi>my sysyem got hacked
14:06<dondelelcaro>zoi: if you have a Debian related question, ask it
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14:07<family>zoi all your ports are closed
14:07<zoi>i have Debian 5, so how can i hardening my box?
14:07<family>u didnt get hacked
14:08<retrospectacus>dondelelcaro: the machine was booting before... um let me compare the old menu.lst with what puppy made
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14:08<brayden>zoi, dont' use SSH or don't allow root logins with SSH, dont' use FTP, dont' portforward things ilke HTTP unless necessary, and have a firewall incase some twit thinks it's necessary to packet flood you, i'm sure your router has one
14:08<babilen>!tell zoi -about securing debian
14:09<babilen>!tell zoi -about harden
14:09<babilen>!tell zoi -about msg the bot
14:09<family>general purpose|switch|WAP|media device|firewall|broadband router Running: Cobalt Linux 2.0.X, HP embedded, Linksys embedded, Netgear embedded, Teltronics embedded, WatchGuard embedded, ZyXEL ZyNOS 3.X
14:09<babilen>zoi: Have fun
14:09<ml|>retrospectacus: so you where using grub or grub2 in testing?
14:09<bja>!tell zoi about br
14:09<family>this is zoi system he didnt get hacked all his ports are closed if you want to learn to hack look into google and hack your own systems at the house.
14:09<retrospectacus>dondelelcaro: fyi what I've done is copied partitions from the old too-small drive to a new one, it wouldn't boot. Now I've booted puppy and setup grub.
14:10<zoi>i don't wanna lerarn
14:10<brayden>zoi, deliberately ignorant?
14:10<retrospectacus>ml|: grub legacy
14:10<themill>!ubuntu-br zoi
14:10<dpkg>zoi: Este canal e para suportar o Debian em Ingles. Por favor, /server irc.freenode.net depois /join #ubuntu-br.
14:11<brayden>heh
14:11<ml|>retrospectacus: ok, then
14:11<zoi>valeu dpkg
14:11<family>zoi type nmap then your ip address as sudo it will tell you what ports are open. If any at all
14:11<brayden>if he has nmap
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14:11<ml|>retrospectacus: you didn't upgrade to grub-pc when asked I take it?
14:12<family>zoi get metasploit and be done with it im off have a good day guys.
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14:12<zedboy>anyone up on why there's two versions of kernel 2.6.32 in squeeze?
14:12<retrospectacus>when upgrading to Lenny? I guess not... I have the old small drive mounted here now, how do I confirm which grub v. was on it?
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14:14<ml|>retrospectacus: < ml|> retrospectacus: this should help ... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=48382 and I would use a grml for this or one that has grub2 already; I'm pretty sure that's what you had on there before, check if you have /boot/grub/grub.cfg = grub2
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14:15<retrospectacus>this is weird, I have no /boot/grub folder at all
14:15<miguel>hola
14:15<retrospectacus>on the old drive
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14:15<miguel>aol
14:15<retrospectacus>there is /boot/vmlinuz... stuff tho
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14:17<aguitel>how reconfigure gdm in squeeze
14:18<ml|>I use grub2 here like shown above, don't remember how it looked with grub, but that looks like grub I think
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14:18<schlurchz>zedboy: I think the -trunk kernel is obsolete, aptitude should label it so, remove it.
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14:19<ml|>acutally now that I look again I have /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup_by_grub2_postinst so maybe there was a /boot/grub/ with grub-legacy
14:19<zedboy>schlurchz: I see two things, linux-image-2.6.32, and linux-image-2.6. The first has version 2.6.32-9, the second version 2.6.32+25
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14:20<retrospectacus>I know with grub-legacy there was the /boot/grub/menu.lst file that always needed messing with
14:20<zedboy>schlurchz: sorry, linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 and linux-image-2.6-686
14:20<retrospectacus>but it is not here
14:20<zedboy>oh i see, it's a dummy.
14:21<ml|>retrospectacus: so you just have /boot and no /boot/grub?
14:21<Panko>retrospectacus: grub2 use /boot/grub/grub.cfg instead of menu.lst
14:21<schlurchz>zedboy: well, the package description tells the story
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14:22<zedboy>schlurchz: yeah, wasn't obvious that one was a dummy package from dselect.
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14:22<schlurchz>wow, a dselect user :)
14:22<retrospectacus>correct, I have /boot with things in it but no /boot/grub dir.
14:22<nostmith>retrospectacus, read /etc/grub.d/README
14:22*zedboy has been using debian for a long time
14:22<ml|>retrospectacus: and you copied all from old?
14:22<retrospectacus>I'm looking at the old drive
14:22<ml|>seems you did not for /boot/ stuuf
14:23<retrospectacus>the new one is in the machine
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14:23<retrospectacus>the old one is sitting on the table plugged into this machine with usb
14:23<ml|>and shows?
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14:24<retrospectacus>what I said..
14:24<retrospectacus> /boot but no /boot/grub
14:24<ml|>weird
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14:24<ml|>so new shows the same then?
14:25<retrospectacus>I'm not sure, it is sitting at "kernel panic"
14:25<retrospectacus>I could boot it into puppy and see
14:26<ml|>you can also check and see if you have /etc/grub.d/ /etc/default/grub
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14:26<ml|>^that is used in grub2
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14:26<retrospectacus>the old drive has neither of those
14:27<ml|>so old has no grub stuff at all it seems
14:27<retrospectacus>correct. Maybe it was using Lilo?
14:27<ml|>maybe, don't know about lilo tho
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14:28<retrospectacus>it does have a file /etc/lilo.conf
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14:29<retrospectacus>hmm, well I should still be able to install grub on the new drive
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14:29<retrospectacus>I think it is just misconfigured
14:30<ml|>in that link above it explains for grub2 how to reinstall, using a livecd; or install lilo I guess; but you need to install a bootloader it seems
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14:30<Panko>I think if there is a /etc/lilo.conf, it uses lilo instead of grub
14:31*ml| knows nothing of lilo
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14:31*zedboy just read a big faceful on the lilo vs. grub debate
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14:32<zedboy>whoa
14:32<zedboy>montfort:/var/lib$ dpkg -S `which convert`
14:32<zedboy>dpkg: /usr/bin/X11/convert not found.
14:32<dpkg>zedboy: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
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14:33<zedboy>that's flakey
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14:33<themill>zedboy: you have a screwy path
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14:33<zedboy>themill: i think i have a screwy uninstall script.
14:34<themill>zedboy: you just have /usr/bin/X11 in your path. It's not needed any more
14:34<zedboy>(for anyone not aware, convert is part of ImageMagick)
14:34<zedboy>themill: ? what's not needed? /usr/bin/X11?
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14:38<retrospectacus>so to install grub2 on this bad boy I will need a liveCD with grub2 on it?
14:40<ml|>yes, but since you didn't have it installed, not sure how that would work; maybe use a chroot and install grub-pc package?
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14:41<ml|>iirc one of those links explains
14:41<retrospectacus>grub-pc is grub2?
14:41<ml|>from that link I pasted before, yes
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14:43<ml|>latest Version: 1.98-1 in testing
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14:44<retrospectacus>I find that annoying - grub2 is version 1.98 ?!?%*?
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14:44<ml|>heh, not finished yet
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14:46<ml|>another option is to install grub-legacy, get system working then upgrade to grub-pc
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14:46<retrospectacus>ok I still have a question - why won't the machine boot after I installed grub-legacy to the mbr
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14:46<retrospectacus>...yeah I am already half-done that
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14:47<ml|>you still need /boot/grub/ stuff for it to work and you don't have that
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14:51<uldics>Hello! I have a problem with module assistant. In interactive mode it says, Some packages could not be found, The search command can search in the package pool for precompiled packages. Google offers only success stories about module assistant, not like this one. How do I solve that?
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14:54<uldics>Nobody?
14:54<Torsten_W>uldics, what will you do
14:54<Zomb>uldics: relax. Show us the log.
14:55<uldics>I want to install lirc modules
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14:55<uldics>hmm, how do i get that log?
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14:55<Torsten_W>uldics, show us the command, you have used
14:56<ml|>uldics: just run the commant and pastebin the output
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14:56<uldics>m-a
14:56<uldics>it was interactive
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14:57<uldics>http://pastebin.com/UX7Snmfx
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15:01<Zomb>uldics: Debian Unstable? Testing?
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15:01<Panko>uldics, m-a says that if no binary packages installed when select LIST option...
15:01<uldics>Testing, but my kernel is a bit older 2.6.32.-trunk
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15:02<Panko>for install lirc modules...
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15:02<Zomb>something is weird with this lirc package
15:03<uldics>that pastebin was from list
15:03<Zomb>m-a -vtd lirc seems to work
15:03<Panko>try firs the option prepare, then option get source, and then option build, as i see in menu of m-a
15:04<Zomb>now it failed (oh dear, they failed to port it to 2.6.33)
15:04<uldics>yes, Panko, I did that
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15:04<Panko>and then install the .deb generated...
15:05<uldics>Zomb, -vtd is no good, d isnt there
15:05<Zomb>uldics: could you please show the logs now?
15:06<Zomb>uldics: log != dialog screenshot
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15:07<Panko>oops! lirc-modules build failed here...
15:07<Zomb>Panko: the autoconf.h problem?
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15:09<Panko>where's the log? xD
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15:10<uldics>how do i get it, it runs in terminal graphical mode
15:11<Zomb>oh jeez
15:11*Zomb should never have added the graphical interface
15:11<Zomb>uldics: m-a -h
15:11<Zomb>m-a build lirc -vt
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15:11<Zomb>Panko: ls -lart /var/cache/modass
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15:12<uldics>ok, just a moment
15:13<Zomb>actually, it tells you where the logs are in the error message of the dialog interface, just after it failed somewhere
15:13<uldics>http://pastebin.com/wW5ssw7i
15:14<Zomb>uldics: see lines 148-170
15:14<Zomb>there is your answer
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15:14<Zomb>smells like outdated source package, not even ported to 2.6.32
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15:16<uldics>that means, I have to change kernel?
15:16<retrospectacus>alright I have booted puppy again and have the new drive mounted. It does have /boot/grub
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15:17<edinho>http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/LIRC-Linux-Infrared-Remote-Control/
15:17<Zomb>uldics: to what? Have a look at http://www.lirc.org/
15:17<Zomb>lirc-0.8.6.tar.bz2 - 714 kB
15:17<Zomb>released: 13-Sep-2009
15:17<Zomb>supported kernels: 2.6.31
15:18<Panko>http://pastebin.ca/1851719 <= kernel 2.6.32-3-686 with headers, no source installed, debian sid
15:18<edinho>its portuguese
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15:18<Mady>no?
15:18<Zomb>Panko: see above, "supported kernels: 2.6.31"
15:18<Zomb>LIRC maintenance seems to suck nowadays
15:19<edinho>these problem occurs at the nvidia drivers to me
15:19<Zomb>not one single snapshot release in 2010, well, well
15:19<uldics>I wonder, why, cause media boxes getting more and more popular
15:19<Panko>ams... so, my version of lirc-modules is 0.8.3-5
15:20<Panko>well, can live some time without remote...
15:20<Mady>Hi! ;)
15:20<bja>Mady: :(
15:20<Mady>bja q te pasa?
15:21<adb>!seen bja
15:21<dpkg>bja is currently on #debian (3h 33m 21s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 36s, last said: 'Mady: :('.
15:21<uldics>I tried to get a remote working through IRDA, using its IRCOMM , but it kinda not working
15:21<adb>hoops , sorry bja !
15:21<Zomb>google finds some LIRC patches for 2.6.33, let's check them
15:21<edinho>Zomb, read those article, its the better in brazil
15:21<Mady>what?
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15:23<Zomb>edinho: yes, and? There is a download link for version 0.7.2, but we know already that even 0.8.6 doesn't work with current kernels.
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15:23<retrospectacus>how can I install grub properly on a machine that has never had grub on it, from a liveCD
15:23<retrospectacus>grub-legacy
15:24<Zomb>does anyone know how to get the patch file for postings on at http://osdir.com/ml/general/2010-03/msg25903.html ?
15:24<edinho>Zomb, talk to http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/perfil/verPerfil.php?login=cabelo
15:24<edinho>He can helps u
15:25<Zomb>edinho: has he a good connection to those guys, http://www.lirc.org/developers.html ?
15:25<retrospectacus>I did the standard grub> root and setup commands and it boots until it says kernel panic... what am I missing?
15:25<edinho>i dunno, but he's a great heavy-user of linux
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15:26<edinho>so influent
15:26<Zomb>damn, I cannot find any source of lirc-2.6.33.patch
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15:26<edinho>talks to http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/perfil/verPerfil.php?login=fabio
15:26<nostmith>retrospectacus, short version: using a live-cd mount the partitons, / and /boot, chroot, aptitude update, aptitude install grub-pc.
15:26<retrospectacus>hmm, OK
15:27<edinho>retrospectacus, what flag u put at boot part?
15:27<ml|>grub-legacy as he want grub not grub2
15:28<ml|>but if grub is setup right it might be another issue
15:28<edinho>http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-2.en.html
15:28<retrospectacus>grub is there, it has root (hd0,0) and kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
15:28<retrospectacus>I do not want grub2 at this time
15:28<Zomb>uldics,Panke: some people seem to hack around to make lirc source work, I suggest to wait a few weeks. Check http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562512 and others
15:29<Torsten_W>ask i ask before, missing initrd?
15:29<nostmith>retrospectacus, just wondering why grub and not grub2?
15:29<edinho>retrospectacus, the flag "on" have to be setted at the /boot and at the /
15:29<retrospectacus>Torsten_W: there is the file: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-686
15:29<Torsten_W>is it in the menu.lst?
15:30<retrospectacus>there is no separate /boot partition
15:30<ml|>retrospectacus: that's very old, didn't yousay you are running testing?
15:30<retrospectacus>nostmith: because I have already half-setup grub-legacy
15:30<retrospectacus>ml|: no, lenny
15:30<Torsten_W>is the entry for the initrd in the menu.lst?
15:31<retrospectacus>Torsten_W: I don't think so... hold on
15:31<ml|>still old probably from etch
15:31<edinho>retrospectacus, paste ur fstab an mtab
15:31<SuperMiguel>while running ssh -X and running few things over X, my sshd ram usage increases to like 8GB.. system has 15GB any suggestions?
15:32<edinho>and*
15:32<Torsten_W>edinho, what should the fstab do?
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15:32<Torsten_W>at this point, fstab is irrelevant
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15:32<retrospectacus>edinho: I don't have any network at this time on that machine
15:32<ml|>SuperMiguel: don't know if that is right for ssh to use so much ram, but what's wrong if you have the memory?
15:33<edinho>Torsten_W, to see the options of /boot
15:33<Torsten_W>if there is a initrd in /boot for the running kernel, this kernel need the initrd
15:33<retrospectacus>I am going to try setting up a new entry in menu.lst for the initrd
15:34<Torsten_W>edinho, at this point, it's irrelevant
15:34<edinho>yes
15:34<retrospectacus>edinho: there is no /boot part. only /
15:34<ml|>won't do much if you don't have the actually initrd
15:34<SuperMiguel>ml|, that is using to much... :S like i have 16gb of ram and run vms 4 of 2gb each... when ever sshd starts using crazy amounts of ram... my system starts using swap :(
15:34<Torsten_W>later, it could be a problem
15:35<Torsten_W>ml|, [20:29] <retrospectacus> Torsten_W: there is the file: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-686
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15:35<ml|>Torsten_W: yes, I saw
15:35<ml|>I meant for another
15:36<cheako>Hello, does an1 know how to http://tinyurl.com/yan89qe AND have LF(s) in the resulting string passed to SHELL?
15:36<cheako>rather and/or.
15:36<cheako>http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/make/Splitting-Lines.html#Splitting-Lines
15:36<cheako>More specifically I'd like to put a here document into a makefile.
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15:36<retrospectacus>I don't see anything indicating that there ever was a newer kernel than that
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15:36<edinho>retrospectacus, have many files at the disk or its empty?
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15:36<SuperMiguel>ml|, even running a single vm i get: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2138/screenshot20100324at335.png
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15:37<retrospectacus>I'v added the initrd line to the grub entry that was booting (trying to boot and panicking)
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15:39<Panko>retrospectacus: the name of files in boot are similar? if you have one called vmlinux, maybe there's other called initrd
15:39<ml|>SuperMiguel: I don't know what your issue is, but shows very small swap usage
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15:40<edinho>Torsten_W, u dont think that the flag ON wasnt setted?
15:40<Panko>if you have one called vmlinuz-2.6.15, the intird will be initrd.img-2.6.15
15:40<mihkel>Hi. I want to blacklist flpooy module. Si I added a line (blacklist floppy) to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and rebooted
15:40<retrospectacus>looks like that did it, it is booting
15:40<edinho>at the /
15:40<mihkel>but
15:40<mihkel>lsmod grep -i floppy
15:40<mihkel>floppy 41317 0
15:40<SuperMiguel>ml|, so is normal for you to have 16gb of ram and sshd is using 7gb of that?
15:40<mihkel>it is still there
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15:41<Panko>mihkel: and, if you try an rmmod floppy?
15:41<ml|>SuperMiguel: like I said I don't know; but if it's available your system will use it
15:41<mihkel>Panko, then it works
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15:41<ml|>try to atleast
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15:44<bja>Ganneff: Are you available for a quick ot talk?
15:44<@Ganneff>there is an ot channel
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15:45<mihkel>Do I need to update initramfs after blacklisting floppy module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
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15:48<retrospectacus>excellent! Everything is working now. Great success. Thanks everyone! esp. Torsten_W
15:48<Panko>mihkel: no, you don't need that
15:48<Panko>to blacklist a kernel module, don't use blacklist.conf
15:48<Panko>try http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting
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15:49<ml|>retrospectacus: great, is that the kernel you are using?
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15:50<Panko>ups, with that you need recreate initramfs
15:50<retrospectacus>ml|: yes it's Lenny running 2.6.15
15:50<retrospectacus>terrible I know
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15:50<retrospectacus>also grub is not installed in the OS but is booting with it
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15:50<ml|>ok, just wondering why it's not up to date
15:51<ml|>maybe make a backup and install grub correctly now?
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15:52<retrospectacus>or never reboot it again :P
15:52<ml|>heh
15:53<mihkel>Panko, thanks for the link
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15:54<retrospectacus>I am repairing some tables in mysql now so not going to do anything crazy with upgrades
15:54<Mady>bujbju
15:54<Mady>q?
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15:55<edinho>http://www.urubatan.com.br/
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16:03<narr>hi
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16:05<ml|>retrospectacus: not a total loss now you know a bit more about grub :)
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16:05<narr>does anyone know how i can disable the "who" command?
16:05<narr>i keep deleting utmp and chmodding it to 0000, but it reappears on reboot
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16:06<babilen>!ops edinho
16:06<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: babilen complains about: edinho
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16:11<dominique>Hi! How do I add a program as a service so that it starts up even when nobody is logged in?
16:11<Squawk>Hey guys, if I need/want to install a single package from the experimental branch is the recommended route to add experimental in my sources.list, update, install the package and then remove the link to experimental? or is there another way?
16:12<Lethalman>dominique, look at /etc/init.d/skeleton
16:12<ml|>dominique: also /msg dpkg init.d
16:13<babilen>Squawk: Just download it and install it manually - But experimental packages might break your system. You've been warned!
16:14<Squawk>babilen, yeah I've been reading up, I've not decided yet. I need to sync iceowl with google calendar and as far as I can tell I need the package from experimental to do so
16:15<ml|>Squawk: what release?
16:15<Squawk>ml|, I'm using squeeze
16:15<dominique>does that mean every script configured in /etc/init.d/ will always start up after boot?
16:15<Squawk>ml|, iceowl is version 0.8 I think, whatever the latest is in squeese
16:16<babilen>dominique: No - Use something like rcconf to enable/disable them easily. Or take a look at "man update-rc.d"
16:16<Squawk>yeah, 0.8
16:16<ml|>judd: versions iceowl
16:16<judd>iceowl -- etch-backports: 0.7-2~bpo40+1; lenny: 0.8-6; sid: 0.8-6; squeeze: 0.8-6
16:17<babilen>Squawk: Which version do you *need* - 0.9 ?
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16:17<Squawk>babilen, it's not actually iceowl I need to update, I want to get calendar-google-provider which should allow syncing between iceowl and google calendar
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16:19<ml|>Squawk: then why try to install a newer version?
16:20<Squawk>ml|, calendar-google-provide isn't in squeeze
16:20<Squawk>or if it is I haven't got the right sources in my sources.list
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16:21<ml|>judd versions calendar-google-provider
16:21<judd>calendar-google-provider -- experimental: 1.0~b1+dfsg-2
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16:22<ml|>yep, just seemed you wanted a newer version of iceowl
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16:22<Squawk>oh, sorry ml|, should have made myself clearer. I don't actually care what software I use, I just want a calendar app that I can sync with google calendar
16:23<dominique>Okay! I can now write startup scripts. One of my server that starts using the script has a console. How do I view it?
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16:23<ml|>have you tried searching the repos to see if there is another solution?
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16:24<Squawk>ml|, I've been looking around for a couple of days. I'm pretty new to debian (not to linux) so I could well have overlooked something
16:24<aguitel>login option under system administration (gdm)
16:25<aguitel>login option under system administration (gdm) in squeeze have bug it crash the login windows
16:26<ml|>aguitel: if you are sure it's a bug report it
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16:26<aguitel>ml|, how i do that
16:26<Xeross>Guys I've just installed debian lenny, but I have no resolv.conf in /etc/ how would I configure my nameservers now, just create it ?
16:27<ml|>aguitel: use reportbug /msg dpkg reportbug
16:27<dominique>Okay! I can now write startup scripts. One of my server that starts using the script has a console. How do I view it?
16:27<edinho>LoRez, why im banned?
16:28<ml|>dominique: you mean with no monitor?
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16:28<LoRez>edinho: why do you paste unrelated links in here?
16:28<dominique>well, take for example apache2 server which starts up with the script. How do I view the apache2 server console?
16:29<edinho>LoRez, i dunno
16:29<xulo>ami me abasa en español
16:29<ml|>aguitel: but first search bts, before reporting anything; there might report open for that already
16:29<LoRez>edinho: how about you not do that?
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16:29<edinho>LoRez, i dont know the rules
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16:30<edinho>LoRez, I dont guess the rules
16:31<ml|>edinho: #debian supports only Debian
16:31<edinho>hmmm
16:31<edinho>yep
16:31<LoRez>that's a pretty standard rule everywhere on irc.
16:31<babilen>edinho: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRCChannelGuidelines
16:31<babilen>edinho: And well - Just don't post spam *anywhere*
16:32<Mady>Hiiiii
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16:32<edinho>im trying to help
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16:33<ml|>edinho: there is a #debian-offtopic
16:33<edinho>yes
16:33<edinho>ml|, come to FISL?
16:33<roxi_lapeke>hi!
16:33<edinho>babilen, come to FISL?
16:34<Mady>Hi people!!
16:34<roxi_lapeke>jajajaj you are happy??
16:35<Mady>yeeeeees
16:35<ml|>!ubuntu-es roxi_lapeke
16:35<dpkg>roxi_lapeke: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
16:37<roxi_lapeke>who is united kingdom?
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16:38<edinho>anyone can u help us wit udev as usb devices at multiseats?
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16:39<datacrunch>Hello, anyone care to help me with a partition , problem sort of ...
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16:39<dr|z3d>datacrunch: more info needed.
16:40<Mady>bye
16:40<datacrunch>Ok, when i installed lenny i used whole /dev/hda (40gb) but only 20gb is available
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16:41<roxi_lapeke>who is Spain?
16:41<bja>!es-social roxi_lapeke
16:41<dpkg>roxi_lapeke: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
16:41<ml|>roxi_lapeke: please read what dpkg told you
16:41<datacrunch>gparted says that 19gb is used and 18gb remains, but a df says only 2gb is used out of 20gb
16:41<datacrunch>somehow i "lost" 20gb of my 40gb drive
16:42<datacrunch>can i increase size of /dev/hda1 non destructive ?
16:43<datacrunch>dr|z3d, clear enough ?
16:43<Torsten_W>resizing is like an operation on an open heart
16:43<datacrunch>ok
16:44<Torsten_W>so backup brings extra life
16:44<datacrunch>so fscking weird, i said, ok use whole disk ..
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16:44<datacrunch>during install
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16:46<edinho>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508029
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16:47<ml|>!dbugs 508029
16:47<dpkg>#508029:N[pmount] pumount doesn't work for auto-pmounted devices (); Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:18:04 UTC []
16:47<datacrunch>oh well, i can live without that 20gb i think, thanks & bye ...
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16:48<Warwick>I just installed Debian Lenny on a KVM, updated and install mysql-server. During the install process I was asked to provide a root password, I did that. After installation, there is no root user in the mysql.user and I cannot do anything. I reinstalled the VM from scratch and same.
16:49<edinho>dpkg, how i disconnect without non-root permissions?
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16:49<dpkg>edinho: I give up, what is it?
16:49<bja>edinho: use the power button
16:50<edinho>bja at ur ass
16:50<bja>Long story short, it will recieve a shudown signal directly to memmory
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16:51<bja>edinho: keep it cool
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16:51<edinho>really cool
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16:52<bja>edinho: Actually the powerbutton has an interrupt assigned to it that acpid recognises
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16:52<edinho>bja, ill send the scripts
16:52<edinho>wait
16:53<bja>paste them on a paste site
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16:59<edinho>bja the mainteineer of multisets at porto alegre deleted the scripts coz the usb load was so high
17:00<edinho>but I try to find it
17:01<bja>There are a few tricks to circumvent the shutingdown of a system. Although some make it less secure
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17:02<ml|>edinho: by disconnect you mean a usb device?
17:02<edinho>yes
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17:02<ml|>that has being automounted? by?
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17:03<edinho>automounted to an user space, just use at the user space
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17:04<ml|>yes but by?
17:04<ml|>like what app?
17:04<edinho>its an lan house
17:04<edinho>any user should a user space
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17:05<ml|>not following sorry
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17:06<edinho>Our proposal is to have to each terminal and each user, one usb port, using usb hubs with the structure of Udev.
17:06<edinho>Plugging a usb storage device, it is mounted and opens to all displays.
17:06<edinho>After months studying the udev and pmount, we develop a script that detects the logged user, and the usb port being used for a storage device, choosin speficic port to the user, openning the device just for it .
17:07<edinho>We understand that the mounting of a usb device don't work in a script referenced by the "RUN" rule, using the pmount, just writing the pmount command in the udev rule.
17:07<edinho>The problem is that executing the removal script, using pumount, with a regular user of the group "plugdev", the usb devices are not umounted, but only by the superuser. The ouput of pumount -d <device>, in the removal script:
17:07<edinho>checking whether /dev/sdb1 is a mounted directory
17:07<edinho>resolved /dev/sdb1 to device /dev/sdb1
17:07<edinho>Error: The device /dev/sdb1 was not mounted by you.
17:08<edinho>datz the part of an email to vincet fourmound
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17:08<edinho>vincent*
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17:11<ml|>could it be something wrong in the script? p[u]mount works fine manually
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17:16<edinho>ml|, clicking at an icon thats appoints to removal script, the device wanst pumounted
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17:20<edbian>Is there some way I can use the mv command to move a file to path that doesn't exist yet? In other words can I have mv create folders?
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17:21<edinho>>>
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17:23<babilen>edinho: no
17:23<babilen>edinho: ENICK - sorry
17:23<babilen>edbian: no - what's the problem with creating the directories first?
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17:24<edbian>babilen: I'm writing a program that organizes my files for them.
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17:24<babilen>edbian: Should be easy to create some directories before you want to move anything to it ..
17:24<ml|>use mkdir before the mv command in your script?
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17:25<dominique>Hi! I've installed a game server on debian (HLDS). The game server can be started by issuing a command. After it starts, the admin can issue command into the server console. I'm trying to configure debian so that 1. The server start during system startup. 2. The admin must be able to connect and administer remotely (using SSH or anything better) and 3. The admin must be able to issue commands directly into the server console/program. Pl
17:25<dominique>ease suggest an ideal solution to do this.
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17:27<babilen>dominique: 1. Write/Use an init script 2. Use SSH 3. No idea - depends on the software
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17:28<ml|>for the ssh part, don't allow root access, just su - to root
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17:30<retrospectacus>b
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17:31<kop_>How do I go about figuring out what wireless devices are supported? At the moment I'm intersted in a wireless usb dongle, but I'd like to know the answer in general. The hardware howtos I've found seem to be old.
17:32<kop_>In other words, I want to buy something. How do I tell what works?
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17:33<dominique>babilen: the server starts and takes keyboard inputs from the console. How do I direct it from SSH to the program?
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17:33<babilen>dominique: You might want to start it inside screen and attach to it later ...
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17:33<ml|>maybe is you start it in screen then they can connect?
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17:34<babilen>!screen
17:34<dpkg>[screen] a terminal multiplexor, allowing you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, scroll back, copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or are disconnected. See /usr/share/doc/screen/README.Debian and ask about <screen tutorial>, <byobu>. Vertical split not documented in Lenny (BTS #525998). http://www.gnu.org/software/screen #screen on irc.freenode.net.
17:34<babilen>ml|: high five!
17:34<dominique>babilen: didn't get what you meant by startig it inside screen!!
17:34*ml| gives babilen a high five back :)
17:34<babilen>dominique: Read what dpkg just said ^^^^
17:34<bja>screen name-offserver
17:35<babilen>!tell dominique -about screen tutorial
17:35<bja>or some other more complex way like using the rc file of screen
17:35<ml|>screen -S name
17:35<ml|>to start and screen -raAd name to reconnect
17:35<dominique>but then the server has to be on 24/7 . Is it possible to attach a running program to an existing screen?
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17:36<ml|>don't think so
17:36<babilen>dominique: No, you would start the program within a screen session, you can then detach from that session (program keeps running) and reattach to it later ..
17:36<ml|>I gave an example above
17:37<babilen>dominique: Just try it - I'm quite sure that you will like it and that it is what you are looking for
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17:38<kop>dominique: 1) ssh to the server, 2) run screen, 3) start program, 4) detach screen, 5) logout of ssh, 6) ssh in later and re-attach screen.
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17:40<ml|>dominique: you can set up a .screenrc that starts what you want once you start screen with screen -S name or plain screen
17:41*ml| loves screen
17:42<bja>dominique: unless its is problematic to set up one server, why don't you try it on a test machine ?
17:42<dominique>ml| babilen kop bja : can I set up a script that starts screen during startup which in turn starts the HLDS server?
17:42<retrospectacus>raise your hand if you have your IRC client running in a screen right now
17:42<kop>dominique: Yes.
17:42*retrospectacus raises hand
17:42*ml| raises hand
17:42*bja raises hand
17:43<babilen>retrospectacus: don't provoke floods please :)
17:43<retrospectacus>this is why we never leave the channel btw
17:43<ml|>:)
17:43<dominique>kop: can you please tell me what all I have to do in order to achieve that?
17:44<babilen>dominique: You have to run the program manually to get the console on which you communicate with the server, or is it implemented as a daemon and a client?
17:44<kop>dominique: No. I'm not good with screen. I'd read the man page. You should probably re-read what people have written because they've probably already told you the basics.
17:44<ml|>dominique: if possible I would do as bja suggests or in a vm; to test all this out
17:45<dominique>well, I got two systems to test it anyways...
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17:47<babilen>dominique: Tell us something about that server - It's hard to give advice without knowledge of it
17:47<dominique>1 other idea, Can I set up my debian so that one terminal (say tty2) starts up already logged in and issues the command to start the server, and can I retain that terminal screen from SSH?
17:48<babilen>dominique: Is it absolutely necessary that the server is started at boot time? And do i understand you correctly that this server is not implemented as a daemon?
17:48<dominique>babilen: it's like a basic program which you start using a command (hlds_run -game cstrike). It starts in the console and inputs can be given (such as Kick player1). The execution stops only when the command 'exit' is issued. There's no daemon or anything. It's just a simple program.
17:49<babilen>dominique: But you *want* that server to be started at boot time?
17:50<babilen>dominique: It is not possible that you just boot your server, start the program within screen manually and detach/re-attach later?
17:50<dominique>babilen: yes. here in summer, v have power cuts twice for an hour each. The server must start up all by itself when the system starts.
17:50<ml|>babilen: that is what I was thinking, no needed for ini.d styff
17:51<SuperMiguel>when i use rsync -avz /x/t x/y & is there a way to know when is done?
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17:51<ml|>SuperMiguel: try --progress
17:51<babilen>dominique: If that is so, you would have to write an init script that implements this functionality - You probably want to use a named screen session that is executed by a special CS-Server user ...
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17:52<kop>dominique: See http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s-sysvinit Particularly the part where it shows you where to find an example.
17:52<babilen>dominique: Start with /etc/init.d/skeleton and start hacking :)
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17:53<babilen>dominique: And read the documentation given to you by kop :) You probably want to test the steps you want to perform in that script manually first. (screen setup, server start, detach, re-attach, executing commands with a different UID, ...)
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17:54<dominique>okay... letme just count what all I have to do: I need to write a script so that it starts up a named screen session (whatever that is, i'll find out), that is executed by my user. And then when I SSH using that user, I can open the screen (with the name) and actively interact with the server. is that all?
17:55<babilen>dominique: Maybe someone on this wonderful planet already implemented that - contact upstream about it
17:55<bja>dominique: yes, minor tweaks in the process but yes
17:55<babilen>dominique: yes, that's more or less it
17:55<ml|>dominique: yes, sounds like plan
17:57<babilen>dominique: Start with /etc/init.d/skeleton
17:57<dominique>okay... so 1. I must write a etc/init,d/hlds script 2. which starts screen 3.that is named 4. With a different UID 5. Set up SSH 6. Resume the Screen. Thanks for the help. I'll get back if i have probs!!
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17:59<bja>dominique: good luck
17:59<dominique>ty bjo. thanks all!!
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18:01<ml|>dominique: read up on screen, you won't regret it :)
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18:03<SuperMiguel>linux is a memory hunger! it will use all my memory and cache whats left until i have no free memory :(
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18:04<dr|z3d>SuperMiguel: Cache is cache.. when it's needed elsewhere, it's released.
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18:04<ml|>dominique: also if you want a quick start to screen try byobu /msg dpkg byobu
18:04<SuperMiguel>dr|z3d, still :P
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18:05<ml|>SuperMiguel: what's the point of having memory if you are not going to use it?
18:05<dr|z3d>SuperMiguel: You'll find most OS's grab ram for the file cache when it's otherwise unused.
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18:06<Japsu_>GAH!
18:06<dr|z3d>It's called efficient use of ram.. your applications always take precendence on usage, so I don't really see the issue.
18:06<Japsu_>People would be so much happier if Linux tools just reported caches as free memory.
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18:09<dr|z3d>When recent cpu's are idle, they power down. When ram is underused, it's deployed elsewhere.. normal!
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18:09<ml|>which is great usage :)
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18:10<dr|z3d>Indeed. :)
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18:11<amphi>for great justice!
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18:15<SuperMiguel>dr|z3d, ml| but because of cache physical ram usage goes to 100% making the system start using the swap that wont make the system slower?
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18:17<bja>SuperMiguel: Before using swap the kernel has methods for throwing away memory pages, freeing allocated memory
18:17<dr|z3d>SuperMiguel: That doesn't happen.. cache usage is deprioritized when it comes to more important stuff.
18:18<SuperMiguel>dr|z3d, gotcha.. i was just worry because i saw a very small swap usage 796Kb
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18:19<ml|>that's what you want small swap usage
18:19<dr|z3d>The less swap usage the better, usually.. if you have enough ram.
18:19<bja>you never get to use swap.
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18:21<SuperMiguel>dr|z3d, and thats why i was kinda surprise i have 16gb of ram.. and then system stared using 790kb of swap.. i tough it was strange that it would use swap... when my swap usage should be 0
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18:21<Ganneff>no
18:21<Ganneff>wrong
18:21<Uccio>ciao
18:21<Ganneff>let the kernel do it, it knows how to do it.
18:22<dr|z3d>Or just disable your swap partition, and see how you fare..
18:22<Ganneff>those 790kb just had been utterly useless crap. and it could use em for more important things - like fs cachesand stuff
18:22<SuperMiguel>gotcha
18:22<Ganneff>and yes, it could go up with the usage.
18:22<Ganneff>it gets a problem if your swap gets really used.
18:22<Ganneff>but the old crap doesnt bother anyone
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18:23<ml|>you can change how the kernel uses swap if you want
18:23<dr|z3d>swappiness is the value to tweak..
18:23<SuperMiguel>http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2531/screenshot20100324at623.png
18:24<dr|z3d>ie. how likely it is that swap will be used.
18:24<Ganneff>yes, but usually there isnt a reason to do much there
18:24<Ganneff>its wrong headed optimizations for many cases
18:25<dr|z3d>http://www.linuxvox.com/2009/10/what-is-the-linux-kernel-parameter-vm-swappiness/
18:25<dr|z3d>http://www.brunolinux.com/06-Fine_Tuning_Your_System/Swappiness.html
18:25<dr|z3d>And last and possibly least! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
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18:30<ml|>yes not good to mess with that on servers; on desktops you might see some improvement
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18:32<SuperMiguel>'
18:33<SuperMiguel>mt
18:33<dr|z3d>swappiness to 10 on desktop systems seems a good call..
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18:34<SuperMiguel>so on servers is not a good idea to change it?
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18:34<dr|z3d>On servers, 60 seems a better value.
18:34<bja>no
18:34<Ganneff>not unless you totally understand what it is doing
18:34<dr|z3d>Those links I provided..
18:34<dr|z3d>Did you bother to read them?
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18:35<Ganneff>no
18:35<SuperMiguel>still reading
18:35<dr|z3d>Read first, then come back when you've digested.. saves embarrassment on your part :)
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18:42<blue_>My machine has been offline for a while, but when I reconnected it won't update anything. I think it isn't actually downloading the updated package lists. Any suggestions?
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18:44<dr|z3d>blue: Can it ping?
18:44<dr|z3d>ping google.com for example..
18:44<retrospectacus>blue_: what does "apt-get update" do?
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18:45<blue_>Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [189B], every other line starts with either Hit or Ign.
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18:46<blue_>ping ftp.us.debian.org (from my sources.list) works
18:46<ml|>blue_: lenny?
18:47<bja>blue_: cat /etc/debian_version ?
18:47<babilen>blue_: Have you considered that there might not be updates? How long has that box been offline/not upgraded?
18:47<blue_>yes, it is lenny, 5.0.4, with a few backports
18:48<blue_>it has been offline for a few weeks...
18:48<babilen>blue_: Could you paste your sources.list ?
18:48<ml|>it is lenny, so seems fine
18:48<babilen>google operates a debian mirror?
18:49<ml|>yes for google chrome if I'm not mistaken
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18:50<babilen>blue_: Do you have security repos enabled?
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18:51<blue_>yes, I have security.debian.org
18:52<babilen>blue_: Well - I guess everything is fine then. Just run "aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade" to make sure ..
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19:41<k-man>is there a debian repo of wine that has very recent versions of wine?
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19:42<gsimmons>kop: (re supported WLAN) http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ is probably the best resource on the subject.
19:42<dr|z3d>k-man: wine has its own repo.. check that, perhaps.
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19:44<k-man>dr|z3d: yeah, i just found it
19:44<k-man>thanks dr|z3d
19:44<dr|z3d>:)
19:45<k-man>dr|z3d: my initial searches kept giving me ubuntu repos even though i was searching for debian
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19:56<SuperMiguel>is there some kind of apache ssh client?
19:56<SuperMiguel>like if i wanted to ssh to my server trough my website
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19:57<bja>SuperMiguel: apache is http it uses port 80, ssh uses port 22 besides, they are two completeley different protocols
19:58<SuperMiguel>i guess i didnt ask correctly
19:59<SuperMiguel>i want something like this: http://www.serfish.com/console/
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19:59<llimeht>,info ajaxterm
19:59<judd>ajaxterm (web, optional): Web based terminal written in Python. Version: 0.10-2; Size: 39.4k; Installed: 248k; Homepage: http://antony.lesuisse.org/qweb/trac/wiki/AjaxTerm; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/ajaxterm
19:59<SuperMiguel>thanks llimeht
19:59<llimeht>It has a terrible security reputation though.... I don't think I'd like to install it on anything I ran.
20:00<SuperMiguel>ohh
20:00<SuperMiguel>is there anything more secure?
20:00<llimeht>There are a few java-based ssh clients that might be useful too if the requirement is really just "does it run in a web browser"
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20:06<dr|z3d>SuperMiguel: Give I2P a look, perhaps.. might be of use/interest. http://i2p2.de
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20:16<locklace>!pie dr|z3d
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21:13<LineOf7s>Heya all. I have a production machine (sarge) that is hanging at Freeing Unused Kernel Memory. What's the most effective way to get it bootable so I can upgrade/fix dependencies/whatever on that actual machine? I can get to it via a live/rescue CD.
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21:16<plugwash>can you boot successfully with init=/bin/sh ?
21:16<LineOf7s>I haven't been able to yet, no.
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21:19<LineOf7s>An issue with that is that it boots with LILO without prompts, and I don't know where to put the init=/bin/sh to be able to pass that to the kernel on startup. I tried changing /etc/inittab to start with runlevel 1, but it doesn't seem to get that far to be able to do that.
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21:20<LineOf7s>I looked at lilo.conf to try to change it to give me a prompt, but I need to "run lilo" after I make changes... and from the liveCD I can't do that (not to make the changes on the correct mounted drive, anyway).
21:20<LineOf7s>I might try that again, though.
21:21<plugwash>if you can get to the machine with a livecd or rescuecd you should be able to chroot in, mount your partitions, mount /proc and do whatever you need to do from the chrooted environment
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21:22<LineOf7s>Okay, cool. Mounting the partition I can do. Chrooting is not something I've done before, but you've given me a pointer in the right direction, so I'll learn all about that right now.
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21:27<nostmith>LineOf7s, here's an example: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/65c31799/
21:28<nostmith>LineOf7s, mound --bind /dev only if you need acces to the devices. eg, for installing another boot loader
21:28<LineOf7s>I don't know what I need yet, but thankyou. :o)
21:29<LineOf7s>Okay, just to check what's literal and what's not in that example: obviously /path/to is straightforward, but debinst?
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21:38<LineOf7s>Sorry - haven't had much sleep. Just realised what 'debinst' was in context, and had to rush back upstairs to say so. :o)
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22:12<cococho>Hi, somebody speaks spanish?
22:12<amphi>!es
22:12<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
22:13<cococho>thanks
22:13<amphi>de nada ;)
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22:18<cococho>Sorry, itś me again...
22:18<jony123>Hi all! I am intending to adopt this package http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=544908 . Who do i talk to?
22:18<cococho>in the spanish channel nobody answer me
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22:18<jony123>(I've allready been talking to the upstream author.
22:19<cococho>how can a fix the sound in my PC
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22:19<cococho>i use Musix distribution
22:19<gsimmons>cococho: Musix GNU+Linux is not supported here, join #musix on irc.freenode.net instead.
22:20<cococho>oh, thank you. Sorry but i new in this lol
22:20<cococho>thank you very much again
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22:26<nostmith>LineOf7s, sorry, i didn't edited the example too well... did it worked for you?
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22:26<EgonStork>openfirmware Forth is annoying shit
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22:29<EgonStork>I want to blow the head off of the developer(s) who created it with a shotgun
22:29<dr|z3d>Just use something else, EgonStork. We can't help with your angst here!
22:29<LineOf7s>Still working on it nostmith, but thankyou for asking. :o) I seem to be in the chroot. Just trying to work out what I'm going to do now that I'm here.
22:31<Guest105>hi can help with ubuntu net book remix installation of app OSS 4.x?
22:32<sney>ubuntu is not supported in #debian
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22:33<EgonStork>Ubuntu is an ancient Nigger word that stands for cotton candy pansy ass beer and skittles faggotry
22:33<bremner>EgonStork: not here with that language, thanks
22:33<EgonStork>fruity flavored beer at that
22:34<EgonStork>that magic hat 9 faggotry
22:34<ml|>!ops EgonStork
22:34<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: ml| complains about: EgonStork
22:34<EgonStork>!ops m1|
22:34<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: egonstork complains about: m1|
22:34-!-mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ
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22:34<Guest105>can you help with this problem??
22:34-!-mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ
22:35<ml|>mentor: thanks
22:35<mentor>Thanks ml|
22:35<mentor>:)
22:35<bremner>Guest105: try #ubuntu on freenode
22:35<ml|>:)
22:35<Guest105>thanks
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23:09<LineOf7s>Hrmmm. If I'm chrooted into my broken system, and I try to use aptitude reinstall to fix up the libc problems I've been having, and I get an error message that includes the term 'segfault', should I be immediately more worried than I was before and doing a test of the machine's memory?
23:11<sney>always check hardware first
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23:11<sney>if a bum dimm is all that's keeping your machine from booting normally, it's an easy fix.
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23:15<LineOf7s>Memory test running now.
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23:17<LineOf7s>The reason I was focusing on software was because using aptitude remove to get rid of an old unused package made the machine start complaining about a missing libc.so.6 (and inifinitely upon attempting to boot). I replaced that symlink and the file it was referring to (libc-2.3.2.so) but then the hanging started. Maybe a memory brainfade is the cause of my woes. Hopefully the test will show something.
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23:28<iAmerikan>My sound doesn't work :\ (New to Debian)
23:28<iAmerikan>lspci shows http://pastebin.com/kW7hDxVK
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23:28<iAmerikan>I switched from ubuntu recently, and sound worked oob on ubuntu
23:29<amphi>!alsa-checklist
23:29<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>.
23:30<edbian>Is there a way to have a bash shell continually update a command for me? For ex: "ps -e | grep xxx" over and over every second? I'd like to do it in one line
23:32<kop>edbian: watch from the procps package.
23:32<amphi>edbian: watch
23:32<edbian>I'm reading the man page now :)
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23:34<edbian>Is there a way to tell how many ssh connection are live on the server? I am seeing 3 instances of sshd ?
23:34<edbian>but only 1 person is logged on...
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23:36<sney>edbian: maybe in netstat
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23:36<iAmerikan>Was already a member of the audio group, and aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav doesn't work even as root
23:36<edbian>sney, Yeah, I only see 1 connection in netstat | grep ssh
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23:39<ml|>iAmerikan: lspci -nn | grep -i audio
23:40<iAmerikan>ml|, http://pastebin.com/ExA8QUH2
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23:42<ml|>judd pciid 1002:aa20
23:42<judd>[1002:aa20] is 'RV635 Audio device [Radeon HD 3600 Series]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel modules 'ati-agp', 'snd-hda-intel' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:aa20 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module.
23:42<ml|>oops
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23:45<iAmerikan>ml|, it says it works but mine isn't.
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23:45<ml|>it should be working, but I can't help
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23:47<vook>this is kind of weird. I can mount /.. to something, like an nfs export. I can't cd to it, but I can list its contents and read from it.
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23:51<SuperMiguel>whats the best way to check cpu temp?
23:51<ml|>reading from motherboard?
23:52<dr|z3d>Install some hdtemp tools and get a widget on your panel.
23:52<dr|z3d>hdtemp/cpu temp.. monitoring tools.
23:53<dr|z3d>aptitude install computertemp for example..
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23:53<amol112>hi all good mornin g
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