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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-05-15

---Logopened Sat May 15 00:00:03 2010
---Daychanged Sat May 15 2010
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00:14<Necrocter>TEAM PlanB
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00:29<TeddyB>what does that mean Necrocter?? iffin I may be nosy
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00:30<nostmith>you scared him. haha
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01:37<jayphill89>how do i install the *Hardware Drivers* application that Ubuntu comes preloaded with?
01:38<amitz>!tell jayphill89 about #ubuntu
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01:39<nostmith>jayphill89, i doubt you really need that one. if you need a non-free driver that's a different story.
01:40<jayphill89> im running the Parsix dist so i thought this would be the best place to ask first
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01:41<gsimmons>jayphill89: Parsix is not supported here, join #parsix on irc.freenode.net instead.
01:41<jayphill89>thank you
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02:10<wilima>Zdravim, graficka karta (Nvidia 7300LE, PCIe) mi zpusobuje kernel panic, pri bootu ubnuta (instalace i live) a Debianu, hadam ostatni distribuce taky... nekdo nejaka rada?
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02:21<opticon>looks like clonezilla will do the job for disk-disk clone but will it resize ext3 partition?
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03:44<chiku>how to redetecte new network card added without rebooting?
03:45<cahoot>usb?
03:45<chiku>no
03:45<chiku>eth
03:45<cahoot>pci then?
03:45<chiku>yes
03:46<chiku>pci rescan?
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03:46<cahoot>any sign of it in lscpi?
03:46<lorena>ola
03:46<cahoot>lspci
03:47<chiku>in which package is lspci?
03:47<cahoot>pciutils or pci-utils
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03:49<chiku>lspci got only 2 NIC cards, I just added one more
03:49<chiku>and lspci rescan?
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03:50<chiku>pci rescan
03:50<lorena>teddyb hello
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04:00<chiku>cahoot, do you know how to rescan pci hadware without reboot ?
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04:01<cahoot>sorry - no - I suspect it might also depend on the hw
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04:43<pipelinehazard>how do I install character sets for different languages?
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06:05<Anita>ola
06:06<Anita>hello
06:06<seeS>hello
06:06<Anita>what your name
06:06<Anita>?
06:07<seeS>sees
06:07<Anita>how old are you
06:07<Anita>?
06:07<seeS>its a rather strange question to ask on a Debian channel
06:07<seeS>old enough to be your grandad
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06:08<Anita>do you can speak in spanish?
06:08<seeS>no, sorry
06:08<cahoot>!es
06:08<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
06:08<seeS>ah it is es
06:09*seeS always forgets which command is which
06:09<Anita>I am spanish but y can speak english
06:09<bremner>!es-social Anita
06:09<dpkg>Anita: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
06:09<seeS>now what does that mean?
06:10<cahoot>try google translatre
06:10<amitz>I bet #debian-offtopic
06:10<seeS>ah
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06:10<seeS>never been there
06:10<amitz>the spanish version.
06:11*seeS wonders
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06:12<seeS>so a spanish speaking person, supposedly anita or ana comes onto a english speaking technical channel
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06:13<amitz>she probably wanted to get technical help but thought that she must build a rapport first. It's a cultural thingie.
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06:14<Anita>hola
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06:14<Anita>soy Anita
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06:16<Anita>¿quien sois ? ¿sois españoles?
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06:16<ignotusp>Anita: можешь говорить на русском, я тебя пойму :-D
06:16<amitz>Anita: this is the same channel you just visited. People here don't usually speak spanish.
06:17<seeS>oh, right. i hadn't thought of that amitz
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06:17<Anita> in wath chanel the people speak english?
06:17<seeS>we speak english here
06:18<seeS>#debian-es they speak spanish
06:18<Anita>thank you
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06:20<amitz>seeS: do note I may be wrong though, I'm not that knowledgeable with nuances of cultures in spanish speaking countries, just the general outline. On the other hand, that might be a good trolling attempt -_-
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06:20<seeS>trolling or cultural differences. its probably some meaniful thing there that we cannot tell the difference
06:21<ledus>hi all
06:21<seeS>hello ledus
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06:22<ledus>i need help please
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06:22<ledus>suspend to ram on my acer aspire one doesn't work at all
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06:23<ledus>some one can help me :)
06:23<ledus>?
06:23<folkert>Hello, unfortunately my creative audigy se does not play sound on debian lenny
06:24<folkert>I used alsaconf and unmuted all channels with alsamixer
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06:24<folkert>The strange thing is that I do hear sound (with lots of noise and very faint) if I put the audio connector in the line-in port of the card
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06:27<seeS>i never have any luck with sound cards
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06:48<tonio>hola
06:48<tonio>aloooooooooooo
06:48<tonio>caca
06:48<tonio>de vaca
06:48<tonio>safwd
06:48<tonio>gf
06:48<tonio>hwrt
06:48<tonio>hsr
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06:54<courpse>I upgraded to squeeze, and i have no GUI at all, when i did /etc/init.d/gdm start/restart/stop it doesnt prompt me back anythign at all.
06:54<courpse>Any ideas/
06:55<amitz>what' the log of X says? Do you use xorg.conf?
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06:57<JulesX>ciao
06:57<courpse>SELinux disabled.
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06:57<courpse>Not starting X server.
06:58<JulesX>no one?
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06:58<courpse>amits, thats what it says in Xorg.0.log, yes i use xorg.conf.
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07:01<courpse>Thats the only thing that could resemble an error in the log.
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07:12<EmleyMoor>I've now got a way for my eSATA drives to mount on plugin - however, I would still really like a way of doing that and mounting them as /media/filesystem-label, rather than a fixed directory - any advice?
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07:14<courpse>How do i recompile the kernel?
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07:17<courpse>Thanks everyone, you've been a great help, :/
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07:18<amkrankruleuen>Hello
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07:22<terceiro>hi there, I have a strange problem: just after grub loads linux 2.6.32-3-686, when linux should change video mode to get a framebuffer, my laptop screen goas blank and stays blank. The system has booted (I can switch to console and login, reboot from there, and even play sounds with aplay, but without seeing anything), but I have no video. It is like the video mode it entered is not supported by my laptop screen
07:23<terceiro>I have just plugged an external monitor, and that's how I am using it now
07:23<terceiro>my laptop monitor is blank still
07:23<terceiro>any ideas?
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07:24<locklace>dpkg: any ideas
07:24<dpkg>Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of rutabagas, a little sauerkraut, and a dozen starving kittens. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few hours!
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07:28<acehlnxuiusrr>hi terceiro, what video mode did you select on the grub command line? vga=?
07:29<terceiro>acehlnxuiusrr: I didn't choose one; I already tried vga=normal but got the same thing
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07:30<acehlnxuiusrr>have you tried some different modes? i usually chose 775. maybe check your documentation for the laptop screen and try chosing the correct mode
07:31<terceiro>will try, thank
07:32<terceiro>I've just upgraded kernel and intel video driver to the latest versions on sid, let's see
07:32*terceiro rebooting
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07:42<darius>hi, im trying to get working usb net device (0fe6:8101). how cant i get list of all network interfaces on the system? ifconfig as i think will show only configured interfaces
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07:44<easyloop>hi darius, try ifconfig -a. should work if the drivers are installed. maybe lsusb you should see something
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07:47<darius>easyloop, thanks, no new if shown, but lsusb shows the device (without the name, just id). allready did modprobe dm9601
07:47<owow>Hello, I have a question, if I want to get only one special package from sid (i'm using lenny), should I just add "deb http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free" to sources list and then do "aptitude -t sid install .."?
07:48<darius>module loaded as lsmod shows now, but no new interfaces in ifconfig -a ...
07:48<gsimmons>darius: Which kernel version are you using? (uname -r)
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07:48<darius>2.6.26-2-openvz-amd64
07:48<ml|>,judd pciid 0fe6:8101
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07:48<ml|>,pciid 0fe6:8101
07:48<judd>[0fe6:8101] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0fe6:8101
07:48<gsimmons>ml|: It's a USB device, keep up. :)
07:49<ml|>ah heh sorry ;(
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07:51<darius>as i googled up the dm9601 should do the trick, and that module already was there, just not loaded automaticaly...
07:51<gsimmons>darius: 0fe6:8101 is not a defined alias in 2.6.26's dm9601 driver. You can either modify dm9601.h to include it and recompile, or use 2.6.32 from lenny-backports.
07:51<darius>i did: echo "0fe6:8101" | sudo tee -a /sys/bus/usb/drivers/dm9601/new_id
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08:01<owow>грр
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08:18<noflash>!tell owow -about bpo
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08:21<kiazishiru>hi, I remember a way to upgrade my debian by downloading and then drag and drop those files into some folders... but I can't seem to find the instructions to what and how anymore.... help?
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08:22<networkn>hi, I am running a file backup from a Windows 2008 Server to an ETCH box, and for some reason, despite the fact I know for certain some files won't have changed, ALL files are being recopied each time I run the backup
08:23<networkn>I have never had this problem with Robocopy before
08:24<delonair>ho installato ubuntu 10.04lts, ho riscontrato un problema grafico. non sono attivabili gli effetti desktop e alcuni giochi tra cui urban terror non si avviano. ho un pc intel core 2 scheda video ge force fx 5500 memoria 756 di cui video ram 256. ora sto usando 8.10 fuziona a meraviglia tutto. è circa un anno e mezzo che uso ubuntu. è un problema risolvibile. grazie
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08:27<cahoot>!it
08:27<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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08:28<takis>update notifier informs me about stable updates? i'm using lenny
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08:45<gsimmons>darius: You probably wanted to use 'echo 0fe6 8101 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/dm9601/new_id' (no colon) instead.
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08:46<kiazishiru>I keep getting 404 errors when trying up upgrade my debian, any helpon how to do this manually
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08:47<arno>Hi, I've installed a proprietary package which depends on unneeded package I don't want to install. So, I installed it with dpkg --force-depends, but now, every time I try to install new packages, apt-get asks me if I want to remove the package. What's the better way to override package dependency ?
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08:51<darius>gsimmons, that does not seem to work, or should i do something more for the intefrace to show up in ifconfig -a ?
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08:54<gsimmons>darius: Try reconnecting the device, otherwise use a later kernel version.
08:54<gsimmons>dpkg: tell kiazishiru -about bat
08:54<mansi>Hello friends, i need to set timeout in bash...can you please suggest me best method.......
08:54<mansi>I need to ask yes/no question, wait for 5 seconds and continue with default "yes" after timeout....
08:55<mansi>I donno where to start.... :(
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08:57<kiazishiru>gsimmons, it says 404 not found for all packages and updates I try to do... I simply want to upgrade to the newest sid kernel....
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08:57<locklace>mansi: man bash | less '+/TMOUT'
08:57<mishi>Hello all
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08:58<mansi>locklace: thanks dear....let me try it out.. :)
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09:09<mansi>Hey friends,is there any way in bash to jump to a particular label?
09:10<kickmule>arno: apt-get or aptitude are better: use them
09:10<mansi>I mean, if a condition fails, i need script to execute a particular line.....
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09:11<kaiyin>how can i find out the ip addresses and hostnames of all PCs connected to a router (d-link)?
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09:12<cahoot>nmap the subnet?
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09:15<kaiyin>it seems nmap can only see the linux machine, ignoring the windoz one
09:15<kaiyin>nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24
09:15<kaiyin>what does 24 mean?
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09:15<cahoot>the router itself has no such service via its webinterface?
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09:16<kaiyin>I've forgotten the password
09:16<kaiyin>of the webinterface.
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09:23<ODDity>"create a testing/unstable mix (ask me about <tum>)" <<< how do I do this again please?
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09:23<cahoot>kaiyin: install sipcalc, then run sipcalc 192.168.0.0/24 to see what it means
09:24<ODDity>!ask hum
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09:24<ODDity>!ask <tum>
09:24<ODDity>pfft
09:25<petemc>ODDity: /msg dpkg tum
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09:25<ODDity>petemc, cheers :)
09:25<kaiyin> /msg dpkg tum
09:25<kaiyin>cahoot, ok.
09:27<kaiyin>Network mask - 255.255.255.0
09:27<kaiyin>Network mask (bits) - 24
09:27<kaiyin>Network mask (hex) - FFFFFF00
09:27<cahoot>kaiyin: no need paste it here
09:27<kaiyin>how do the three masks differ?
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09:28<cahoot>different notation?
09:29<kaiyin>24 means 2^24?
09:30<cahoot>this is too complicated for me
09:30<arno>kickmule: ok. But I download some .deb from canon website, they have some dependencies I want to override (such as dependency on gtk just for some utils). How to manage that case ?
09:30<@Ganneff>!equivs
09:30<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also <usrlocal> A better plan is often to adapt the debian packages to your needs, ask me about <package recompile> <uupdate> <ssb>
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09:32<kaiyin>nmap does not give the hostnames.
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09:32<kaiyin>it doesn't even detect all the IPs.
09:32<arno>Ganneff: from what I understand, equivs allow me to tell the system some dependencies are set. So let's say I tell the system libgtk is installed, what happens when I try to install some package that depends on libgtk, will the system warn me or prevent me from doing that ?
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09:32<@Ganneff>arno: it will assume libgtk is there and install the package
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09:32<cahoot>kaiyin: sure does here
09:33<@Ganneff>arno: ie works as expected. equiv tells apt "this is there, shutup", so it shuts up
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09:35<arno>Ganneff: I don't want that. I want to override dependencies for that specific package, but I want my system to work the normal way for other packages. So I think I need to rebuild the package
09:35<kaiyin>cahoot, I added a sudo before nmap, and it now sees all the IPs, but the hostnames are missing.
09:36<@Ganneff>arno: yes.
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09:37<arno>Ganneff: ok, I'll do that, thanks
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09:48<kaiyin>nmblookup does the trick.
09:49<ledus>hello
09:50<ledus>do anyone use compiz with squeeze?
09:52<cahoot>!tell ledus -about ask
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09:54<ODDity>after installing nvidia drivers on squeeze as per instructions, it was working fine, however on full reboot X wont start, i'd appreciate some help
09:55<ODDity>X reports "no screens found"
09:56<cahoot>ODDity: /var/log/Xorg.0.log might possibly give more info
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10:02<ODDity>it says.. filed to load module nvidia no drivers found
10:03<ODDity>I'm pretty sure I didn't miss a step
10:03<ODDity>:(
10:03<ODDity>it was working fine but I wanted some peace and quiet so shut the machine down...
10:04<valdyn>!noscreensfound
10:04<dpkg>no screens found is, like, not a useful message - it means X11 has a problem somewhere with something. Read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log more closely, and look for the real error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about <troubleshooting x>.
10:04<gsimmons>ODDity: What kernel have you booted with? (uname -r)
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10:05<ODDity>it's 2.6.32-3-amd64
10:05<ODDity>i suppose that should be nvidia something right
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10:06<ODDity>nothing nvidia is listed in grub
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10:07<ODDity>gsimmons, any advice?
10:08<cahoot>ODDity: does find /lib/modules -iname nvidia -print turn up anything?
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10:12<ODDity>cahoot, yeh.. some nvidia-amd64 stuff
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10:13<ODDity>kernel drivers nvidia
10:13<ODDity>and such like
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10:13<ODDity>this really difficult because the box is in the other room
10:13<wvsfxr>Does anybody know where Google Earth gets its configuration for GUI fonts? The GuiFont... keywords in ~/.config/Google/GoogleEarthPlus.conf don't seem to work.
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10:15<ODDity>im guessing grub need to load the nvidia kernel or something,. i dont know how to make it know it's there
10:16<cahoot>ODDity: grub isn't involved, what happens if you run (as root) modprobe nvidia?
10:16<old>ODDity: GRUB does not load modules to the kernel. Try lsmod to list loaded currently modules.
10:17<ODDity>modprobe nvidia nothing
10:18<cahoot>that's fine - i e no error
10:18<old>...or the module was already there.
10:18<cahoot>ODDity: try /etc/init.d/gdm restart
10:18<cahoot>old: true
10:19<ODDity>same shit
10:19<EmleyMoor>I've now got a way for my eSATA drives to mount on plugin - however, I would still really like a way of doing that and mounting them as /media/filesystem-label, rather than a fixed directory - any advice?
10:19<ODDity>failed to start x server
10:19<ODDity>etc
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10:22<ODDity>I havent changed anything so if X didnt start on boot it's not going to start with a gdm restart is it?
10:23<old>ODDity: X needs an nvidia module. After loading it with modprobe it might have started, but did not. The problem is elsewhere.
10:23<ODDity>ok fair enough
10:24<cahoot>ODDity: one might unload/reload nvidia and check dmesg for errors
10:25<ODDity>uhh right
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10:26<cahoot>uhh?
10:28<ODDity>sorry man Im pissed off
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10:28<Alba>hoola
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10:29<Alba>hola
10:29<ODDity>im not sure of the command for load/unload the nvidia modules though I do know whre dmesg is
10:29<Alba>hello
10:29<Alba>i don't
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10:29<cahoot>ODDity: modprobe -r nvidia; modprobe nvidia; dmesg
10:29<Guest195>understood
10:29<EmleyMoor>What don't you?
10:30<Guest195>hablas español
10:30<Guest195>?
10:30<EmleyMoor>!es
10:30<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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10:31<ODDity>oky last thing dmesg says is loading nvidia kernel something 195.62.36
10:31<ODDity>or thereabouts
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10:32<Guest195>alguien habla en español
10:32<Guest195>?
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10:33<EmleyMoor>!es Guest195
10:33<dpkg>Guest195: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
10:34<Guest195>pues habla en español EmleyMoor
10:34<locklace>Guest195: hablan ingles o salir
10:35<Guest195>que ?
10:35<Guest195>locklace
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10:36<Guest195>no te entiendo
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10:37<Guest195>I love you EmleyMoor ¿and you?
10:38<EmleyMoor>!es-social
10:38<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
10:38<ODDity>so i reboot and it's still "failed to load module nvidia" module does not exist
10:39<Guest195>EmleyMoor?
10:39<Guest195>Yes or No
10:40<Guest195>EmleyMoor
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10:41<Guest195>EmleyMoor
10:42<ODDity>back to sodding ubuntu i suppose then
10:42<Guest195>bay
10:42<cahoot>ODDity: and lsmod|grep nvidia agrees?
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10:43<ODDity>2 things show up with lsmod | grep nvidia
10:44<ODDity>nvidia somenumbers and i2c_core someting
10:45<cahoot>ODDity: so a module called nvidia is loaded - but for some reason it's of no use - sorry
10:45<ODDity>so it's fucked ten
10:45<ODDity>great
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10:46<ODDity>well I appreciate your time cahoot, thank you
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10:54<ODDitee>cahoot, i fixed it
10:55<ODDitee>I nearly gave up there for a second but, you kept me going, thank you so much
10:55<cahoot>and the trick was ... ?
10:55<ODDitee>well
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10:56<ODDitee>I removed XF86Config, and then rebooted, which gave me a default X, then re-ran "m-a a-i nvidia && aptitude -t sid install nvidia-glx"
10:57<ODDitee>then did nvidia-xconfig again
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10:58<cahoot>ok
10:58<ODDitee>so i'm guessing it's possible I made an error whilst copy n pasting one of the commands
10:58<ODDitee>I dunno
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10:59<cahoot>odd you had an xf86conf - or you mean xorg.conf?
10:59<cahoot>but nevermind all's well
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11:00<ODDitee>well
11:00<ODDitee>no
11:00<ODDitee>I mean, all is well yes.. confusingly so, however there is not xorg.conf
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11:00<ODDitee>i was expecting that too but squeeze not using xorg.conf
11:01<ODDitee>least.. it's not in /etc/X11
11:01<ODDitee>XF86Config reminds of the old slackware days
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11:02*ODDitee reminisces
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11:32<bja>What command do i use if i want to know how many inodes i am using on an ext3 filesystem
11:33<ansgar>bja: df -i
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11:34<bja>ansgar: thx
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11:38<ml|>bye
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12:29<ODDitee>how to get evolution to always be "connected" when you start it up, rather than click the button at the bottom?
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12:47<Anita>hello
12:47<Anita>are you spanish?
12:48<Anita>hello
12:48<bja>!es Anita
12:48<dpkg>Anita: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
12:49<bja>!es-social Anita
12:49<dpkg>Anita: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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12:52<locklace>why do the spanish fail at reading comprehension even when you tell them something in spanish
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12:52<locklace>is it the same kind of genetic fault that makes italians !list
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12:52<bja>!beer locklace
12:52*dpkg deftly decants a fine Yuengling Lager for locklace
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13:11<bja>is there some obscure parameter for ls that will spit only files smaller that a certain size?
13:11<Vnuchaev>Hello! Can I ask a question here, please?
13:11<Vnuchaev>I use Debian over SSH, have removed PHP5 with the command apt-get remove ..., and now I have to install PHP version 5.1. How can I do it?
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13:15<locklace>bja: you should know the answer by now: no, but zsh can do it natively
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13:20<jackyf>Vnuchaev: with the command 'apt-get install' ? :)
13:20<bja>locklace: thx I am looking to man zshbuiltins
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13:20<bja>, versions php5
13:21<judd>php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; sid: 5.3.2-1; squeeze: 5.3.2-1
13:21<locklace>bja: zshexpn. try ls -l /bin/*(.Lk-4)
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13:22<locklace>lists regular files (.) of length (L) less than (-) 4 Kb
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13:23<Vnuchaev>Thank you, but is it possible to install PHP 5.1 on Debian 5.0 Lenny?
13:23<locklace>anything's possible if you have enough duct tape
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13:27<Vnuchaev>Help, please! What is a command to install PHP version 5.1.x on Debian 5.0 Lenny?
13:28<locklace>it's going to be one, dude. it's going to be like 926
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13:28<locklace>not going to be one
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13:29<locklace>download the source, install its dependencies, configure it, build it and install it somewhere safe
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13:41<Vnuchaev>Can you recommend a book (site) fot Debian absolute newbies (Linux newbies)
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13:43<locklace>http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
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13:43<Tuplad>I've just plugged in my headphones in my speakers and I can't regulate the volume by changing the volume's speakers
13:44<Tuplad>I think I have to do it from gnome, how do I do it?
13:44<ODDitee>Tuplad, you can use the mixer applet on the panel
13:44<Tuplad>yes that I can
13:44<Tuplad>but the volume is very soft
13:45<Tuplad>it's on maximum but it's very silent
13:45<ODDitee>so open the volume controls and adjust the PCM or somesuch
13:45<Tuplad>maximum :o
13:45<Tuplad>hm weird
13:45<Tuplad>lets try other headphones
13:45<ODDitee>are they all at max?
13:45<Tuplad>yes
13:45<ODDitee>you got master, PCM etc
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13:46<Tuplad>yes
13:46<Tuplad>all at max
13:46<ODDitee>volume control on headphones?
13:46<Tuplad>nope
13:46<ODDitee>low volume on media player?
13:46<Tuplad>maximum
13:46<ODDitee>broken headphones
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13:46<ODDitee>mby
13:47<ODDitee>you can also check alsamixer in terminal
13:47<Tuplad>the headphones work fine on other computer
13:48<ODDitee>mmm
13:49<Tuplad>oh well, I'm statisfied with this for the moment
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13:49<Tuplad>still, thanks ODD
13:49<ODDitee>sorry man :P
13:49<ODDitee>perhaps make sure it's not the media, try a different track etc
13:49<ODDitee>and do check "alsamixer"
13:49<ODDitee>in terminal
13:50<Tuplad>just did
13:50<Tuplad>no help
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13:57<nostmith>so, i wanted to change the volume group name, i used vgrename, and edited /etc/fstab. do i have to do something else?
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14:01<locklace>nostmith: no
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14:02<bja>locklace: thx it save me tons of time
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14:06<raboof>ubuntu has a pretty lively community of user-contributed packages/repositories with their 'PPA' structure. Does Debian have something similar?
14:07<abrotman>not in a central location like that ..
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14:07<abrotman>are you looking for something specific ?
14:07<bja>!pie abrotman
14:07*dpkg hits abrotman in the face with a cream pie
14:07<abrotman>hiya
14:07<raboof>abrotman: i'm creating a package for the latest development version of lilypond - not really suitable for inclusion in debian itself, but it'd be nice to share anyway
14:08<abrotman>raboof: there used to be a website called apt-get.org .. not sure how active it is now
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14:08<bja>#debian-lilypond
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14:09<raboof>abrotman: yeah, that's just a search engine for 3rd-party repo's though, not a repo in itself, iirc
14:09<raboof>bja: exists but empty
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14:10<abrotman>raboof: right, i said there wasn't a place to do that AFAIK
14:10<bja>raboof: then talk directly with dondelelcaro he is usually in there
14:10<abrotman>bja: that channel is empty ?
14:10<raboof>bja: ok thanks ;)
14:11<WiL>!beer WiL
14:11*dpkg deftly decants a fine Spaten Pils for WiL
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14:11<WiL>:D
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14:12<bja>abrotman: yes, it seems don is no longer connected to that channel although he is the master of it
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14:14<SL1MS>HI ALL
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14:16<SL1MS>how can i install debian in may netbook
14:16<SL1MS>how can halp me
14:17<bja>Is there a hard limit for the number of files a dir can have?
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14:21<raboof>bja: i'd imagine that depends on the filesystem you're using
14:21<raboof>bja: with ext, you specify a maximum number of inodes for the disk at creation iirc, so that'd be one 'hard limit'
14:22<bja>raboof: it is ext3. I am fixing a bug on a tiny log script i made ;P
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14:22<bja>raboof: precisely, nagios detected 99% of inodes on use
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14:24<raboof>bja: yeah, that could cause trouble. not sure if you can increase the max number of inodes after-the-fact though...
14:25<bja>raboof: well i am spliting to monthly periods of time and compressing the subdirs. That should help
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14:51<stuckey>How do I file a request for a package?
14:51<@zobel>stuckey: mail the debian bts with RFP: $package-name
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14:53<bja>!tell stuckey about rfp
14:54<WiL>!tell WiL about rfp
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14:56<locklace>!tell WiL about selftell
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15:14<apostle>my vlc and flash within iceweasel have not sound, my totem player does have sound, what packages are missing?
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15:29<cahoot>apostle: does you lvc output to /dev/dsp* or native alsa?
15:29<cahoot>vlc
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15:33<apostle>cahoot, thanks I had it configure wrong
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15:33<apostle>how about the problem with flash in youtube, could that be a version problem, missing library, or configuration.
15:35<WiL>hi
15:35<WiL>apostle: are do you using multimedia repositories?
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15:38<WiL>apostle: are you using multimedia's repositories?
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15:45<apostle>WiL, http://paste.debian.net/73436/
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15:55<apostle>wi yes they are enabled
15:55<apostle>WiL, yes
15:55<WiL>ammm
15:56<WiL>ok see this link
15:56<WiL>http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=251
15:57<WiL>seems that the libavcodec package in multimedia repository
15:57<WiL>have a bug
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15:58<WiL>apostle: the link works for me
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15:59<WiL>apostle: the version has change and now the name its at the end of comentaries
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16:01<apostle>Wil, the command is not working for me
16:01<WiL>apt-get install –reinstall libavcodec51=0.svn20080206-18 libavformat52=0.svn20080206-18
16:02<apostle>E: Couldn't find package –reinstall
16:02<WiL>apostle: that is the command
16:02<WiL>apt-get install --reinstall libavcodec51=0.svn20080206-18 libavformat52=0.svn20080206-18
16:03<apostle>WiL, vlc is working fine for me, it's my flash videos that are not, I don't hear any sound, but VLC is playing movies nicely now
16:04<WiL>in my case
16:04<abrotman>apostle: with all browsers?
16:05<abrotman>apostle: make sure all your mixer levels are up
16:05<apostle>only tested with iceweasel
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16:05<abrotman>are you using kde? gnome? something else?
16:06<WiL>apostle: but you downgrradee the package?
16:06<WiL>in my case vlc did reproduce videos from youtube
16:06<apostle>gnome
16:06<abrotman>apostle: try epiphany
16:06<WiL>untill downgrade the package
16:07<apostle>you want me to downgrade iceweasel?
16:07<WiL>nO
16:07<WiL>the library that vlc uses to dec flv format
16:08<apostle>I am using flashplayer in iceweasel not vlc
16:08<abrotman>his flash has no sound ...
16:08<WiL>ammm
16:08<WiL>sorry :p
16:08<abrotman>apostle: are you using alsa ?
16:09<apostle>abrotman, using Nvidia nForce2
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16:09<apostle>abrotman, it saids device alsamixer
16:10<abrotman>make sure all the levels are up and unmuted
16:10<apostle>abrotman, done
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16:13<bja>abrotman: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 unmutes and sets sane levels
16:13<abrotman>for every device?
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16:14<bja>it seems so, i haven't fully tested it yet. cahoot posted that the 11th this month
16:15<bja>got to run bye
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16:26<apostle>no volume in flash player for google chrome and iceweasel
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16:27<gpm>do you have any other open programs that use sound (e.g. vlc)?
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16:27<gpm>you may need to close them
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16:30<apostle>gpm, I ensured that all other apps closed , still no sound
16:31<gpm>but sound works fine in other programs?
16:31<apostle>yes it works fine in vlc and totem
16:31<apostle>could be my flash player
16:31<apostle>?
16:31<gpm>what version of flash are we talking about? did you install flashplugin-nonfree?
16:31<gpm>and what version and arch of debian?
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16:35<apostle>lenny
16:35<apostle>I installed the flash from adobe site
16:35<gpm>lenny what?
16:35<gpm>i386+
16:35<gpm>amd64
16:35<gpm>ppc?
16:36<gpm>crap have to go
16:36<gpm>good luck
16:37<apostle>looks like i386
16:37<apostle>how to install the flash non free pluging
16:37<apostle>does not show up when I do apt-cache
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16:39<abrotman>apostle: in "about:plugins" what is your flash plugin ?
16:39<WiL>apostle: the flash package is on the backports
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16:41<apostle>adobe flash player 10
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16:45<apostle>installed the back ports adobe flash player, no sound
16:46<apostle>10,0,45,2 installed flashplayer version
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16:53<b00t>hi @ all
16:54<ml|>abrotman: what bja posted, should only work for sound card 0
16:54<abrotman>who wha?
16:54<abrotman>oh, the alsamixer
16:54<ml|>yes
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16:57<raboof>you can pick the device alsamixer should expose with -D though
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16:57<abrotman>if the rest of his sound works, i doubt that's the issue .. he may have to load the OSS compat modules
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17:00<Metrahla>can debian install rpms ? anyone helpin g?
17:00<abrotman>!alien
17:00<dpkg>it has been said that alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to Debian, Debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well. http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/
17:00<Metrahla>oh ok ..
17:00<Metrahla>ty
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17:04<jorge>(gksu:4635): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
17:04<jorge> ` when i try to open nautilus has root on the terminal >s
17:06<abrotman>is your X running as root?
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17:06<dima>hi all
17:06<abrotman>you may want gksu or gksudo
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17:07<dima>where download gtk-engines for Debian lenny ?
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17:09<dima>Кто-то говорит по русски?
17:09<dima>на русском*
17:09<icebrain>!ru
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17:09<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
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17:25<Scynix1>Would someone be so kind as to remind me what the command is to look at connected drives? I have a drive connected that BIOS recognizes but Debian doesn't seem to be detecting on its own
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17:29<petemc>Scynix1: fdisk -l
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17:45<felix_>ciao
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17:57<stuckey>I'm sometimes not able to mount CDs or DVDs. I see this in Dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/73459/
17:57<stuckey>The discs that I am trying work in windoze.
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18:04<dondelelcaro>stuckey: that usually means that the drive or the driver for the drive isn't working properly
18:04<stuckey>dondelelcaro: It works fine in windows.
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18:11<dondelelcaro>stuckey: with the same drive?
18:11<stuckey>dondelelcaro: yes
18:12<dondelelcaro>stuckey: then it's probably a kernel issue; try a different kernel and see if it persists
18:12<stuckey>dondelelcaro: how do I try a different kernel? i'm on squeeze
18:12<dondelelcaro>but beyond that, I don't know what to do to debug it for you
18:13<dondelelcaro>stuckey: you should be able to run 2.6.26; I assume you're running 2.6.32 or whatever is the most recent
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18:14<stuckey>dondelelcaro: how do I get 2.6.26?
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18:42<flyeng4>Hoping to get some help accessing the internet through a device plugged into a laptop via usb ... anyone networking gurus?
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19:11<stuckey>Can anyone tell me how I can install another kernel?
19:11<stuckey>Do I have to upgrade to sid?
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19:13<rudi_s>stuckey: No, you can install one from backports.
19:13<rudi_s>!tell stuckey about backports
19:14<rudi_s>judd: kernel
19:14<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.5); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-12); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.4-686 (2.6.32-11~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
19:15<stuckey>okay
19:15<ml|>stuckey: you can also try linux-image-2.6.30-2-*arch that's in squeeze; and or download manually and install one from sid
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19:19<stuckey>ml|: should I backport it to squeeze or just install from sid?
19:19<ml|>the bpo kernel will most likely is the same or similar to what you have now
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19:20<ml|>just download and install; can also do the same if you want 2.6.26
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19:32<stuckey>ml|: okay so I changed kernels and I have the same problem with not being able to read dvd/cds. But... I didn't have to re-install nvidia drivers. Why is that? I thought you had to re-install everytime you upgraded a kernel?
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19:33<ml|>what kernel, from sid?
19:34<WiL>one question, for use the new kernel, does he have to reboot?
19:34<ml|>yes
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19:35<stuckey>2.6.32
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19:35<stuckey>just 2.6.30 is in squeeze, right?
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19:39<ml|>apitude search '~n linux-image' should tell you what kernels are available to install with aptitude
19:39<ml|>stuckey: ^
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19:49<stuckey>ml|: thanks
19:49<stuckey>ml|: Why didn't I have to re-install drivers?
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19:51<ml|>stuckey: I'm not 100% sure; but I think it's because it's the same branch 2.6.32
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19:53<Zmac>hey
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19:54<Zmac>is anyone there?
19:55<ml|>!ask
19:55<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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20:01<Rhapsody>I've just added some extra preferences in Iceweasel in about:config that haven't worked out, now I want to get rid of them. But it seems Mozilla completely forgot about this possiblity. Is there any easy way to do this?
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20:05<WiL>Rhapsody: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode
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20:06<WiL>in this mode you can reset the value
20:06<WiL>Rhapsody: the page explain more about it
20:08<Rhapsody>I could reset the value anyway.
20:09<Rhapsody>It seems resetting the preferenes to a blank value kills them on restart. Hardly intuitive.
20:09<WiL>ut if you want to reset ALL the values
20:10<Rhapsody>Where did I say anything resembling that?
20:10<WiL>i preffer the do it with the safe mode option
20:10<WiL>star firefox in safe mode
20:10<WiL>and then
20:11<WiL>do the changes
20:11<WiL>that you need
20:12<WiL>firefox -safe-mode
20:12<WiL>You may need to specify the Firefox installation path (e.g. /usr/lib/firefox-3.5). Firefox should start up with a Firefox Safe Mode dialog.
20:12<Rhapsody>You're new here, aren't you?
20:12<WiL>:p
20:12<WiL>why?
20:12<Rhapsody>This is Debian, so iceweasel is the command to be using.
20:13<WiL>amm
20:13<WiL>sure
20:13<WiL>change firefox to ice
20:13<WiL>an so on
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20:15<WiL>iceweasel --safe-mode
20:16<WiL>Rhapsody: Ypu have to close all instance of ice
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20:16<WiL>Rhapsody: before
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21:12<Jeffy>I am trying to get my Wiimote to work but when I run modprobe I get this:
21:13<Jeffy>FATAL: Error inserting uinput (/lib/modules/2.6.32-22-generic/kernel/drivers/input/misc/uinput.ko): Operation not permitted
21:13<Jeffy>Any suggestions?
21:13<Jeffy>I am on ubuntu 10.04 but xchat cannot connect to there server so I turned here
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21:18<nostmith>!tell Jeffy about ubuntu
21:18<ml|>sorry, still can't help you here since you are using ubuntu
21:19<bremner>Jeffy: XChat -> Network List -> Freenode
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21:26<scb>Anyone knows where can I find devede for sid?
21:27<drewdavis>scb: It appears to be in multimedia.
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21:27<scb>Uhm...
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21:28<drewdavis>http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
21:28<scb>Yeah, I know it. I was hoping not having to use it
21:28<drewdavis>Oh, well yeah. I don't like resorting to it either.
21:30<drewdavis>scb: You can always get the sourcecode and debianize it yourself.
21:31<scb>Heh. I have no experience making debs. I tried once and gave up mid way through.
21:33<Scynix>This'll sound really strange, but does anyone know of any NTFS irc chats?
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21:40<drewdavis>#ntfs on freenode?
21:41<ml|>##windows on freenode?
21:42<Scynix>yeah I as afraid you'd mention freenode, thanks though, I'll try it.
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23:46<al34n1x>Guys, anyone know a good ltsp channel within debian or Ubuntu servers?
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