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---Logopened Mon May 24 00:00:00 2010
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00:04<Chucky1>alguien habla español?
00:04<simonrvn>,info tmpreaper
00:04<judd>tmpreaper (admin, optional): cleans up files in directories based on their age. Version: 1.6.10; Size: 43.6k; Installed: 104k
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00:06<Chucky1>Hola
00:06<Chucky1>hablan español?
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00:17<amitz>!es
00:17<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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00:57<yoshio>On Squeeze, I did a full-upgrade. Now when X starts, I see the desktop and mouse cursor, but the mouse/keyboard don't respond. what should I try to fix this?
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01:45<karensy_>hi guys..
01:45<karensy_>i installed freetds-common in debian..
01:45<karensy_>but i still dont have the tsql tool..
01:47<karensy_>is this not included in the FreeTDS package?
01:49<jm_>no
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01:51<jm_>*dpkg* Debian Search of 'bin/tsql' (1): (/usr/bin/tsql) in database/freetds-bin.
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02:06<karensy_>tnx jm_
02:06<karensy_>is there a way i can add tsql to debian...
02:07<karensy_>or do i have to install it from source
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02:07<jm_>karensy_: dpkg just told you which package it's in
02:08<jm_>granted, it's not in stable
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02:15<amol112>hi all,i have SQL database server configured in windows server and client is lenny,can you tell me any gui tool to connect sql server
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02:30<carlos98274>hi im just wondering if i could get some help with ttd plaese?
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02:38<sick>anyone know "wicd" real well?
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02:49<karensy_>jm_1: added testing to sources.list and did an apt-get install freetds-bin..
02:49<karensy_>i now have access to tsql.. tnx!
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02:50<jm_>karensy_: that's not a good idea in general
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03:00<karensy_>jm_1: i know.. this is a test box only... its not a server...
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03:13<lac_>sick: there is a #wicd irc channel on freenode
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03:58<niktaris>anyone know a torrent tracker for me to upload an iso ?
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03:59<ansgar>niktaris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent_Tracker#Public_trackers
04:01<niktaris>thanks ansgar
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04:18<nitbix>morning everyone
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04:20<Tuplad1>!samba
04:20<dpkg>Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). Documentation resources: http://samba.org/samba/docs/ , http://wiki.samba.org/ . Backported Samba 3.4.7 packages for Lenny are available, ask me about <bpo>. http://samba.org/samba/docs/FAQ/ http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Category:Category_FAQ http://samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <swat>.
04:20<Tuplad1>!swat
04:20<dpkg>swat is probably Special Weapons And Tactics, or <Samba> Web Administration Tool: 'aptitude install swat', enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary and 'invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart', then point your web browser at http://localhost:901/
04:21<Tuplad1>Samba is such a pain in the ass! Is there a manual for Debian on how to open the network for Windows users on my network ? I'd like to get some files from other computers...
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04:38<tuxcrafter>how can i get ext4 support in lenny debian stable?
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04:44<locklace>tuxcrafter: not supported
04:45<amitz>Tuplad: for basic file sharing, I used pyhon webserver instead. Setting samba is painful.
04:45<locklace>tuxcrafter: but if you install the kernel from lenny-backports, you'll at least have sane kernel support for it
04:46<Tuplad>amitz: indeed. but I've put so much time in samba that I just want to know how it works
04:46<Tuplad>I'm always stuck at a phase where the computers can see each other, but ask for a login... and I can't figure out what the login or how to get one.
04:47<Flashtek>mornin' y'all..
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04:48<Flashtek>Tuplad: best bet is to get the samba box to do the authentication, then use the user accounts setup on there..
04:48<Flashtek>makes life much easier..
04:49<Flashtek>OR.. share a directory on the samba server and share files that way..
04:50<Tuplad>Flashtek: THIS machine is the samba server. There's a windows box downstairs and I would like that both the computers could check each others' shared files.
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04:50<Tuplad>Flashtek: when I start nautilus, go to network, start opening my shared files or other computer's shared files, it asks for a password...
04:53<tuxcrafter>locklace: ok i neeeded the kernel from testing for alix-led support
04:53<tuxcrafter>lets see what the kernel in lenny-backports is
04:53<locklace>pretty similar
04:53<locklace>,kernels
04:53<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.5); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-13); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.4-686 (2.6.32-11~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
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04:55<tuxcrafter>and probably grub2 from testing for ext4 support
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05:00<locklace>tuxcrafter: if you want your /boot to be ext4 for some reason, yeah
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05:01<tuxcrafter>apt-get install -y linux-image-2.6.30-2-686 -t testing # alix led and ext4 modules
05:01<tuxcrafter>apt-get install -y grub-common/testing grub-pc/testing # ext4
05:04<Flashtek>Tuplad: what does the windows machine run ?
05:04<Tuplad>Flashtek: xp
05:05<Flashtek>Tuplad: pro or home ?
05:05<Tuplad>Flashtek: pro
05:05<Tuplad>Flashtek: I just managed to enter this machine from there
05:05<Tuplad>works just fine
05:05<Flashtek>typical..
05:05<Flashtek>lol
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05:05<Flashtek>Tuplad: on the samba server you wanna add user accounts to the samba database with smbpasswd
05:06<Flashtek>then use the supplied uid/pwd on the XP system when connecting to the samba server..
05:06<Flashtek>if it happens to be the same credentials as on the XP box *hint* you'll not need to enter it (generally)
05:07<Tuplad>Flashtek: hmm... I lost you there
05:07<Tuplad>Flashtek: I can access this machine from windows
05:08<Tuplad>Flashtek: but not vice versa, it asks for a password when I try entering windows machine
05:08<Tuplad>Flashtek: I know the username and password of the account downstairs ,so I tried it, doesn't work
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05:14<jimmyz47>do anyone know hw to access internet in mobile using backtrack
05:15<locklace>!backtrack
05:15<dpkg>BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
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05:17<jimmyz47>can i pm with u lock
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05:22<Flashtek>Tuplad: ok, you might need to prefix the username with the windows machine name eg: windows\user
05:23<Tuplad>Flashtek: oh, we figured it out. I shared a folder downstairs and I can enter it without problem
05:23<Tuplad>Flashtek: both computers are shared now :d
05:23<Tuplad>hooray samba :D!
05:24<Flashtek>huzzah
05:24<Flashtek>did you expect it to work without sharing a folder ?
05:24<Flashtek>!based on debian
05:24<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
05:24<Tuplad>Flashtek: no no, but I couldn't enter at all, it asked a password immediatly
05:25<Tuplad>then I shared a folder, and I could enter without problems
05:25<Flashtek>aye.. it does that..
05:25<Flashtek>you have to have somthing shared to show up..
05:26<Flashtek>which is annoying..
05:26<Tuplad>indeed :(
05:26<Tuplad>but lol
05:26<Tuplad>guest ok = yes
05:26<Tuplad>that was all I needed to make it work
05:26<Tuplad>and security = share
05:26<Flashtek>sweet..
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05:33<lancelot_of>hi all
05:34<lancelot_of>how to discover the address of an attached bluetooth device (smartphone)?
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05:42<lac_>lancelot_of: hcitool -scan
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05:46<lancelot_of>lac_, do you have any experience with blueman?
05:47<amitz>don't ask to ask, just ask?
05:49<lac_>lancelot_of: no, sorry
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05:51<lancelot_of>how to browse a smartphone with blueman-browser?it still says "file doesn't exist" but the connection with the smartphone is up (i can send it any file)
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06:02<transformer>hi, is there a meter available which shows the upload & download speed?
06:03<Flashtek>transformer: I do this on my router..
06:03<transformer>flashtek: I used it once but forgot itś name...
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06:04<Flashtek>transformer: might find it depends on the DE
06:04<locklace>transformer: iftop and conky can do it
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06:09<amitz>lancelot_of: what file browser? in debian squeeze, thunar doesn't like with blueman.
06:09<amitz>s/like/link
06:09<slush>transformer: in gnome you can add system monitor to your panel
06:10<lancelot_of>amitz, ocmanfm
06:10<lancelot_of>amitz, sorry pcmanfm
06:10<amitz>see if pcmanfm is supported in blueman.
06:10<amitz>but I doubt so.
06:10<amitz>nautilus is supported, and some others.
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06:13<francisc>transformer: bwm-ng
06:13<francisc>if u want it non graphical...
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06:24<nitbix>does anyone know of an easy way to download .debs with dependencies (like 'apt-get -d') cross architecture?
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06:35<jm_>nitbix: no, when I asked (a much better question btw) this was the answer: apt-walkabout or apt-zip or similar should be able to do that.
06:35<transformer>how to shutdown conky?
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06:36<nitbix>jm_: thanks
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06:48<k-man>in squeeze, should i install samba4?
06:48<k-man> or just samba?
06:50<tzafrir_laptop>yey. ICQ working again. After manually upgrading piding from 2.6.5 (Squeeze) to 2.7.0-3 from Sid
06:52<locklace>k-man: there is no samba4 in squeeze
06:54<k-man>locklace: hmm... maybe i made a mistake hang on
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06:55<amitz>icq.... wow.
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06:55<locklace>isn't that dead yet
06:56<amitz>so I heard. Seems to be famous in russia.
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06:57<icebrain>sold for 190 million just last month, not too bad
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07:01<tuxcrafter>hi all during boot my device seems to freeze because the time is not correct Starting periodic command scheduler: crond.
07:01<tuxcrafter>it is not doing anything anymore after crond log message
07:02<tuxcrafter>i am using a serial conslole
07:03<k-man>locklace: thanks, i had some old sid references in my sources file that were getting in the way
07:03<zeroXten>lo lo.. what is the debian policy on available package versions? e.g. php5-curl in lenny currently has ...lenny8 and ...lenny4. What happened to 5,6,7?
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07:03<tuxcrafter>or not i think i forgot something
07:04<tuxcrafter>:D
07:04<tuxcrafter>tty to serial
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07:05<locklace>,versions php5-curl --release lenny
07:05<judd>php5-curl -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4
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07:05<locklace>,versions php5-curl --release lenny-security
07:05<judd>php5-curl -- lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8
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07:05<zeroXten>ah, that makes sense ;)
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07:17<mefistofel>hi all
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07:18<tuxcrafter>Waiting for /dev to be fully populated...modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting padlock_aes (/lib/modules/2.6.30-2-686/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-aes.ko): No such device
07:18<tuxcrafter>^ i have filled a bug report because aes module depends on padlock while this is a device specific module
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07:18<tuxcrafter>^ the bug reports was ended because they did not care enough
07:19<tuxcrafter>how can i get this fixed, i want a clean boot!
07:19<tuxcrafter>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566309
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07:26<amitz>I don't know if this must be said but they are now pursuing something more important, ie: releasing squeeze.
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07:30<dbldtx>...reeeeeeally. I wonder when Squeeze will be Stable?
07:31<drizzt>i've reported a couple of bugs but noone look at tghe, so far is it normal for debian&
07:31<drizzt>aboyut 2 weeks ago
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07:33<Flashtek>drizzt: depends on the bug and it's impact
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07:33<james4432>whats up debian chapps
07:33<james4432>and chapettes
07:34<Flashtek>o/
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07:34<drizzt>bah
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07:34<drizzt>maybe they confirm them in 3 years :(
07:34<james4432>Is there a tool, like top, for network throughput? I just need to see what the current network throughput is
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07:34*Flashtek is getting LCP timeouts on a ppp dialup.. anyone familiar with ppp+chat+lcp ?
07:34<Flashtek>james4432: iftop
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07:35<dbldtx>Good work, EVERYBODY on getting Squeeze so far so well so soon, it's a beautiful thing, it is.
07:35<dbldtx>Goodnight all
07:35<Flashtek>ni in
07:35<james4432>BLAMO that was a quick response :)
07:35<james4432>AWESOME Flashtek :) thanks!
07:35<Flashtek>james4432: someone asked the exact same question about an hour ago..
07:35<weasel>maybe you could stop shouting
07:35<locklace>Flashtek: lcp is low-level ppp negotiation, if it's timing out something basic is wrong with the link
07:36<james4432>tbh i could have googled it but i wanted to say hello. i've been playing round with lenny lots recently and it's all working swimmingly
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07:37<Flashtek>locklace: im getting this on a 3g dialup connection
07:37<Flashtek>wvdial seems to deal with it, but pppd+chat don't
07:38<Flashtek>wvdial isn't available on arm cpus
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07:38<Flashtek>then, without changing anything I get "NO CARRIER"
07:38<james4432>Damn iftop is using 60-70% CPU
07:39<Flashtek>james4432: get a better cpu then
07:39<james4432>No i think it's just that this box is doing 800mbit or thereabouts
07:39<Flashtek>yikes..
07:40<Flashtek>probably find the hardest thing is to keep up with calculating and displaying..
07:40<james4432>and god knows how many thousands of connections. i tried turning off all the options for iftop, but maybe I need to find something a bit simpler, or just grep interface stats and do some calculations
07:41<petemc>nload or bwm also work
07:41<petemc>jnettop shows individual connections
07:43<james4432>nload is working nicely thanks, just 1% cpu.
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07:57<Flashtek>locklace: could a problem with signal or power supply result in the lcp timeouts ?
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08:01<amitz>Flashtek: I assume you have repeated the experiments to test your pppd+chat vs wvdial theory. You're aware of some parameter common for 3g right? Googleable.
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08:02<Flashtek>amitz: yup
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08:03<Flashtek>'OK' 'ATQ0 V1 E0 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0'
08:03<Flashtek>'OK' 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet"'
08:03<Flashtek>'OK' 'ATDT*99***1#'
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08:03<Flashtek>APN is "internet" for sure
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08:03<amitz>Flashtek: and there are options that are cellphone provider specific?
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08:04<Flashtek>well, those are the only commands being sent by the chat script..
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08:04<astae>hi all !
08:04<Flashtek>the APN, username and password are set..
08:04<Flashtek>hi astae
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08:07<amitz>you should turn off some compressions, perhaps those are eating your processing power.
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08:10<tzafrir_laptop>if anyone has a clue regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg01924.html I'm also available on IRC :-)
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08:11<Flashtek>amitz: http://pastebin.com/K4AXG9XC <-- like that ?
08:11<locklace>tzafrir_laptop: what was the last good kernel
08:11<tzafrir_laptop>locklace, not really sure.
08:12<tzafrir_laptop>earlier 2.6.32 worked well.
08:12<tzafrir_laptop>Not exactly sure what I mean by "earlier"
08:12<tzafrir_laptop>In recent weeks it seems much easier to reproduce
08:12<locklace>tzafrir_laptop: is the kernel the only thing that changed
08:13<tzafrir_laptop>Hmm... This is Squeeze. I hardly remember what changes
08:13<amitz>yeah, something along those lines. btw, you really use /dev/modem?
08:14<locklace>tzafrir_laptop: can you go back and try a kernel that was previously working and confirm that it works fine now
08:14<tzafrir_laptop>I wonder if any library other than libc can do such trouble
08:15<tzafrir_laptop>an earlier 2.6.32-3 would be tricky to try. I'll try 2.6.32 later
08:15<locklace>tzafrir_laptop: try 2.6.32 and also 2.6.33.4
08:15<tzafrir_laptop>err... 2.6.32-2
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08:16<dandana>hi .
08:16<jmm>hi.
08:17<Flashtek>hi.
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08:20<dandana>how can i find in debian the hdd devices names ?
08:21<petemc>fdisk -l
08:21<dandana>as an example wan' a know if i have sda sdb ...........
08:21<dandana>thanks
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08:47<subroto>hellooooooooooooo
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09:10<jmm>I spotted some files on a server, it's called @21721.0 , and is located in /tmp . I don't know where it does come from. does anybody see files like that before ?
09:11<jmm>I have a few of those, making worth to delete them to free some space.
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09:12<Glorf>Hi all, i've got a problem with direct-rendering : i reinstalled my debian (it was a squeeze, and i wanted a lenny), but now i don't get direct-rendering (so, no compiz too...)firmware-linux-nonfree is installed
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09:15<locklace>Glorf: there've been huge changes in x drivers and the kernel since lenny
09:16<Glorf>i installed firmware-linux-nonfree from backports, so it should work, no ? (i have one ati radeon 2100)
09:16<locklace>firmware is one tiny piece of the puzzle
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09:18<Glorf>so, i should install the backported version of xserver-xorg-video-radeon ?
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09:18<locklace>there isn't one, officially
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09:19<locklace>but you can get one here, http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/rebuilds/lenny/
09:19<locklace>you should install the kernel from backports too
09:19<Glorf>you mean, the 2.6.32 ?
09:20<locklace>yes
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09:21<Glorf>is the 2.6.34 stable ? Or i have to take the 2.6.32
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09:21<locklace>the only .34 in debian is in experimental
09:21<locklace>in case it's not clear, that's the opposite of stable
09:21<Glorf>Ok
09:21<locklace>you don't need anything newer than .32 anyway
09:21<Glorf>what's the package to install ? is there specials things to do ?
09:22<locklace>!tell Glorf about bpo
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09:22<mjt>Glorf: it's probably like this: that card did not work in lenny but now works in squeeze
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09:25<Glorf>i already used bpo, but i never changed kernel by myself
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09:25<Glorf>it's just linux-image-2.6.32 to install ?
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09:27<jordanm>Glorf: you probably want the meta package, which will be something like linux-image-686
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09:28<Glorf>i found "linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.4-686" but what change the number after bpo ?
09:28<jordanm>Glorf: revision
09:28<Glorf>there's no header to install, or anything like that ?
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09:30<locklace>you either want bpo.3 or the linux-base from sid
09:32<Glorf>so, i install linux-base from backports,then linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-686, i reboot and it's done ?
09:32<locklace>no
09:33<locklace>bpo.3 doesn't need linux-base
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09:42<Glorf>It's me again
09:43<Glorf>so, i changed my kernel, installed the new xserver-xorg-video-radeon, removed firmware-linux-free (installed with the kernel) and restart X
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09:43<Glorf>and direct rendering isn't activated, i've got this message : http://pastebin.com/Re2PxUb0
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09:46<locklace>Glorf: paste the output of "grep -i direct /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
09:46<kelle>hey. anyone know how to install javahl on debian 64bit?
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09:48<Glorf>locklace > http://pastebin.com/syuvuQn6
09:48<Glorf>http://pastebin.com/mL2Frwxe for the second
09:49<Glorf>it's the version that i installed with your link
09:49<locklace>Glorf: everything's fine for 2d, it's not a 3d driver
09:49<Glorf>so, it's radeonhd ?
09:49<locklace>no
09:49<locklace>!fglrx
09:49<dpkg>[fglrx] "FireGL and Radeon for X", the AMD/ATI proprietary display driver. As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the R600 series are supported; ask me about <radeon> or <radeonhd> instead. The fglrx-driver version in <testing> supports Xorg 7.5 (Xserver 1.7). To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner lenny>, <fglrx one-liner squeeze> or see http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . #ati on irc.freenode.net.
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09:50<Glorf>i never installed fglrx before
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09:52<locklace>there is some 3d support in development, not sure where it's at or exactly what combination of things it needs; see http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Radeon
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09:54<Glorf>the fglrx one-liner lenny says for "lenny/2.6.26" and the fglrx one-liner squeeze says for squeeze user... What's the good for me ? (lenny/2.6.32)
09:55<locklace>,versions libgl1-mesa-glx
09:55<judd>libgl1-mesa-glx -- etch: 6.5.1-0.6; lenny: 7.0.3-7; squeeze: 7.7.1-1; sid: 7.7.1-2; experimental: 7.8.1-1
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09:56<locklace>guess you need mesa libs > 7.6, no idea if they're built for lenny somewhere
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09:57<locklace>you might want to ask #debian-x whether it's better to try to get fglrx or radeon+mesa working in lenny
09:57<Glorf>in debian packages search, i found libgl1-mesa-glx, but only for lenny (so 7.0.3-7)
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09:58<locklace>that's what judd just said
09:59<Glorf>yes, but i didn't found le squeeze version
09:59<Glorf>or sid, or experimental
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10:04<kelle>anyone know how to get subversion and javahl 1.6 to work on lenny 64?
10:05<kelle>getting this error no libsvnjavahl-1 in java.library.path
10:05<kelle>no svnjavahl-1 in java.library.path
10:05<kelle>no svnjavahl in java.library.path
10:06<kelle>somehow subversion didnt install them
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10:19<james4432>how easy is it to upgrade lenny to 2.6.27+
10:19<james4432>for a relative beginner
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10:23<locklace>james4432: trivial, download the kernel from backports and install it with dpkg -i
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10:25<chealer>james4432: how many out-of-tree LKMs do you use?
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10:32<dpkg>mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/basis-link/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav
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10:36<james4432>chealer : i don't know what that means
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10:36<james4432>chealer : i've got a new install of lenny, but i need to get a newer kernel on it
10:36<locklace>james4432: paste the output of "uname -a"
10:38<james4432>im on 2.6.26-2-686
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10:38<locklace>james4432: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-686/download
10:38<locklace>james4432: download it and run dpkg -i on it
10:38<locklace>then reboot
10:39<james4432>is 2.6.32 latest stable then?
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10:40<james4432>Apparantly my nics may require firmware files
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10:41*lili_
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10:41<james4432>ideally i don't want to lose networking or i'll have to go to the datacentre :)
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10:44<locklace>,versions firmware-linux --release lenny-backports
10:44<judd>firmware-linux -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.23~bpo50+1
10:45<chealer>james4432: it should be quite easy
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10:46<james4432>what if I just get a kernel newer than 2.6.27 but old enough that it still includes firmware? :)
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10:48<locklace>the above link is the kernel you want, get it and install it
10:48<locklace>and install firmware-linux from backports too
10:48<locklace>!tell james4432 about bpo
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10:57<james4432>ok fingers crossed :)
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10:58<chl1>Does openbox no longer read autostart.sh located at .config/openbox/ ?
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10:58<chl1>I have edit autostart.sh, but seems like openbox doesn't read it.
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10:58<chl1>the setting like xcompmgr, feh, tint2 etc. do not take effect.
10:59<chl1>for instance, ps -ef | grep xcom (or tint2, etc. ) shows nothing about those processes.
10:59<chl1>env is debian squeeze.
10:59<james4432>locklace : thanks for the help, it's all worked as you said ;)
10:59<locklace>!congratulate james4432
10:59<dpkg>Nice one james4432, you did it!
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11:00<james4432>wow it's dropped my CPU usage in half going up to that kernel
11:00<james4432>with HAproxy! woot woot!
11:01<jordanm>chl1: I would try an openbox specific channel
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11:03<chl1>jordanm: ok. thanks.
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11:12<Sara>Evening.
11:14<icebrain>!greet Sara
11:14<dpkg>Bonjour, Sara
11:14<Sara>Got to love those bots. :)
11:15<Sara>Thanks icebrain
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11:16<Sara>Has anyone found that Audacious just eats your CPU?
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11:19<Allanis>ns register 3eDcvgNju8lkm5Tghjkl sara_allanis@msn.com
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11:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 424] by debhelper
11:20<Allanis>:/
11:20<bja>Allanis: change your nickserv password
11:20<Allanis>I know.. I know
11:20<Allanis>Lol
11:20<Allanis>Forgot /
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11:21<Allanis>Cool, Allanis was not taken. :)
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11:23<zeroXten>right... debug on pam_env.so should work right?
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11:30<Allanis>Sorry for the spam there ^
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11:45<dbvolioooo>i need a list of free radio panels for debian
11:45<dbvolioooo>i don't know whereelse to find
11:45<dbvolioooo>help
11:46<petemc>whats a radio panel?
11:46<dbvolioooo>radio control panel
11:46<dbvolioooo>like centova
11:46<petemc>the standard way to search for packages is 'apt-cache search foo' , or use aptitude for more advanced searech
11:46<dbvolioooo>but i need freeware
11:46<dbvolioooo>list of the best please !!
11:47<Allanis>Sec..
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11:48<Allanis>Centova.com dead?
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11:49<dbvolioooo>yes because i tried to install it
11:49<Allanis>K, I'll see what I can find..
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11:49<dbvolioooo>i did exactly as they said in the documentation
11:49<dbvolioooo>but i get the same error
11:49<Allanis>http://www.centova.com/pages/cast/ ??
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11:50<Allanis>What is the error?
11:50<dbvolioooo>you need ioncubeloader for the script to install
11:50<dbvolioooo>after i install ioncube
11:50<dbvolioooo>i get the same error
11:50<dbvolioooo>what shoud di do??
11:50<Allanis>apt-cache search shoutcast
11:51<Allanis>Look at icecast-server
11:51<dbvolioooo>i have icecast
11:51<Allanis>Ah
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11:51<dbvolioooo>o already installed and configured it
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11:51<dbvolioooo>the only problem is the panel:((
11:52<dbvolioooo>i need help // guidance:((
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11:52<Allanis>I think we should try fix the error you have..
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11:52<Allanis>It could be difficult to find a free panel
11:52<dbvolioooo>ok
11:53<dbvolioooo>so
11:53<Allanis>Paste the error you get, unless it is long, then throw it inside a paste-bin site.
11:53<Allanis>And link.
11:53<dbvolioooo>what was that error paste debian link?
11:53*icebrain wonders what the panel does exactly.
11:54<Allanis>There is also 'ampache'
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11:54<kur>hao
11:54*Allanis greets Kur
11:55<dbvolioooo>no
11:55<Allanis>http://ampache.org/demo/login.php
11:55<Allanis>Have a look there
11:55<dbvolioooo>it was something like debian.pastebin
11:55<Allanis>It is a Demo
11:55<Allanis>Google.
11:55<Allanis>:P
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11:56<dbvolioooo>oh
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11:56<dbvolioooo>i thaught it's a error paste site:D
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11:56<Allanis>:P
11:57<vlsoft>Hi!
11:57<dbvolioooo>ok
11:57<Allanis>Heya.
11:57<dbvolioooo>so
11:57<dbvolioooo>withe centovacast
11:57<kur>зачем в мою лубунту повешен IRC. разве что только посидеть когда делать нечего
11:57<vlsoft>kur, excuse me, what's this line of text? ^^^ :)
11:57<ansgar>!ru
11:57<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
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11:58<kur>Just Russian
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11:58<dbvolioooo>oi
11:58<dbvolioooo>so
11:58<Allanis>Me?
11:58<dbvolioooo>with centovacats
11:58<dbvolioooo>cast:D*
11:58<Allanis>Yeah?
11:58<kur>origato dpkg
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11:58<dbvolioooo>the error is::::
11:58*Allanis prepares for spam
11:58<Allanis>:P
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11:59<dbvolioooo>The file <b>/home/onemanteam/centova/centova223/centovacast-2.2.3/system/installutil.php</b> has been encoded with the <a href="http://www.ioncube.com">ionCube PHP Encoder</a> and requires the free ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so <a href="http://www.ioncube.com/loader_download/">ionCube PHP Loader</a> to be installed.
11:59<dbvolioooo>Please correct the above problems and then restart this installation
11:59<dbvolioooo>script.
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11:59<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, oh, ionCube, that's a nice stuff for PHP :)
11:59<Allanis>Ok..
11:59<vlsoft>you have to have the PHP modul installed on your PHP :)
11:59<Allanis>So when you instal this script?
11:59<dbvolioooo>it is
11:59<dbvolioooo>i have veriffied it
12:00<vlsoft>and it has to be loaded too...
12:00<dbvolioooo>it works perfectly
12:00<dbvolioooo>so
12:00<dbvolioooo>how to use ioncube?
12:00<vlsoft>btw. I'm here because Allanis asked me something about your problem, and I came to help...
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12:00<dbvolioooo>ok
12:00<dbvolioooo>so
12:01<dbvolioooo>what is to be done??
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12:02<vlsoft>I think ionCube still isn't loading properly, or does not handle the php file in time, and php executes it without ionCube...
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12:02<dbvolioooo>so what should i do now?
12:03<vlsoft>so, grab that ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so and I think it has to be put under /usr/lib ...
12:03<ansgar>dbvolioooo: Ask whoever provides the software? When they use ioncude to anny users, they should also help them...
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12:04<dbvolioooo>yes it's there usr/lib/ioncube
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12:05<dbvolioooo>in local not lib
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12:05<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, I think this thread has some valuable information on your problem (php 5.2.5 vs. ionCube problem) http://www.directadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22430
12:05<dbvolioooo>the documentation from ioncube says it has to be locating in usr/local
12:05<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, it has to be in a lib directory your system linker will search for .so files...
12:06<vlsoft>I don't know your OS expertise level, but .so files are like .dll files on Windows... the app wants to load them at runtime, if it can't find it, error messages will come out :)
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12:07<dbvolioooo>oh
12:07<dbvolioooo>so i must move ioncube folder in lib ?
12:08<vlsoft>no, only that particular .so file
12:08<vlsoft>( ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so )
12:08<dbvolioooo>ok
12:08<vlsoft>and I think /usr/lib it is, not /lib ...
12:08<dbvolioooo>yes it is
12:08<dbvolioooo>i just checked:d
12:08<dbvolioooo>all .so are there:d
12:08<vlsoft>ok :)
12:09<vlsoft>now try it (maybe an apache restart helps too, to read the php.ini fresh again)
12:09<dbvolioooo>ok
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12:09<dbvolioooo>aaaaaa
12:10<dbvolioooo>how to copy certain file?:D
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12:10<vlsoft>cp something.so /usr/lib/
12:10<Allanis>cp
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12:10<vlsoft>or install Midnight Commander and have a really nice GUI-like experience...
12:10<vlsoft>(apt-get install mc)
12:11<dbvolioooo>ok
12:11<vlsoft>of course mc is like nc was on DOS, so the GUI-like experience will be text only :P
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12:11<vlsoft>but still, an experience :)
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12:13<dbvolioooo>and now
12:13<dbvolioooo>i have to modiffy the php.ini file yes??
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12:13<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, yes, certainly...
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12:14<dbvolioooo>ok
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12:14<vlsoft>I have found a nice how-to for you, dbvolioooo : http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_apache2_ssl_php5_zendoptimizer_ioncubeloader
12:14<vlsoft>skip to the "IonCube loader" part
12:15<vlsoft>of course that guide is for 5.0, and you have 5.2, but it's only a 0 to 2 rewrite in the example text...
12:15<dbvolioooo>ok thanks alot
12:15<dbvolioooo>i have a really nice question
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12:16<vlsoft>It seems to me that putting the whole ioncube dir under /usr/local/lib/[ioncube] is OK...
12:16<dbvolioooo>where to find that file on debian where it keeps a log of all commands given???
12:16<vlsoft>but in PHP.ini it has to be like this then:
12:16<vlsoft>[PHP]
12:16<vlsoft>zend_extension=/usr/local/lib/ioncube/ioncube_loader_lin_5.0.so
12:16<dbvolioooo>oh
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12:16<Allanis>It is in your user directory
12:17<vlsoft>all commands? if your shell is bash, then it'll be ".bash_history" ...
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12:17<vlsoft>(files starting with . are hidden on normal directory listings, so "ls -lsai" will surely show it, it's in your home directory)
12:18<dbvolioooo>oau
12:18<vlsoft>if you want to edit it, do this: "nano ~/.bash_history"
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12:18<dbvolioooo>i'll see over right now
12:18<vlsoft>I bet you want to cover your tracks :)
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12:18<dbvolioooo>not realy
12:18<dbvolioooo>i want to see other traks
12:18<Allanis>:P
12:18<vlsoft>oh I see :)
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12:20<dbvolioooo>vlsoft
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12:20<vlsoft>yes?
12:20<engine64>hello!
12:20<vlsoft>hi
12:20<dbvolioooo>didi you worked with ioncube or centova ever?
12:20<vlsoft>no
12:20<dbvolioooo>*did:d
12:20<vlsoft>well, ioncube: yes
12:21<vlsoft>centova, no
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12:21<vlsoft>but I have used ioncube only over a Centos 5 system, not on Debian.
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12:21<dbvolioooo>oh
12:22<dbvolioooo>i saw that you are familiar with
12:22<vlsoft>I'm a system administrator...
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12:22<vlsoft>I'm not familiar with it, but have some generic overview of things.
12:23<dbvolioooo>is centos close to debian??
12:23<vlsoft>(and I'm really good at filtering google search results :P)
12:24<vlsoft>no, CentOS is more like RedHat.
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12:24<dbvolioooo>relating to performance flexibility and commands
12:24<vlsoft>(actually it is RedHat, the only difference is that it was compiled from source outside RedHat's headquarters)
12:24<jordanm>new users wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference... to experienced admins it is a different world
12:24<dbvolioooo>so it's more robust should i say?
12:24<vlsoft>looking at performance, I think they're the same.
12:24<vlsoft>however, I like dpkg much better than rpm ...
12:25<vlsoft>so whenever I can choose, I go for the Debian system.
12:25<jordanm>the package manager should not be the reason to choose a distro...
12:25<jordanm>!tell vlsoft about why debian
12:25<vlsoft>:P
12:25<jordanm>although, there are some that are especially terrible, portage for example
12:26<vlsoft>I'm sitting at a Gentoo system right now...
12:26<vlsoft>portage isn't that bad, its pro is that I can optimize the system fully for my hardware, and on a laptop it is a dream come true...
12:26<locklace>!start a distro war
12:26<dpkg>Debian Rulz
12:27<jordanm>yeah... it doesn't manage depends _at all_ upon removal of packages
12:27<vlsoft>I can throttle down the CPU to 600MHz, and the system still runs everything smoothly...
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12:28<jordanm>!gentoosmite vlsoft
12:28*dpkg spends 5 days recompiling vlsoft, and when it's all done, vlsoft runs 0.1% faster than previously
12:28<vlsoft>and for my technical level (yes, I would like to think that I'm already on THAT level) every distro performs the same way :)
12:28<vlsoft>lol
12:29<vlsoft>when I'm installing the 10th linux server in a row, Debian is the way to go for me too...
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12:29<vlsoft>Gentoo takes me weeks to install (well, at least when it gets to the usability level I want)
12:29<dbvolioooo>in what way to install a linux server?
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12:30<dbvolioooo>web and radio?
12:30<dbvolioooo>like?
12:30<vlsoft>debootstrap especially...
12:30<dbvolioooo>what is that for?
12:30<vlsoft>no, a server... for Apache+MySQL+PHP+PostgreSQL+Java+Tomcat...
12:30<vlsoft>or for Oracle...
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12:31<dbvolioooo>so
12:31<dbvolioooo>a webserver especially
12:31<dbvolioooo>for hosting
12:31<vlsoft>with debootstrap, you can get a whole Debian system onto a previously empty remote system with ease.
12:31<vlsoft>That's my job, to install new systems a few hundred kilometers away from me :P
12:31<fran>retra
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12:32<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, well, whatever the customer wants...
12:32<dbvolioooo>yes of course:D
12:32<vlsoft>if they want an office server running Samba and acting as a primary domain controller, then that too.
12:32<dbvolioooo>=))
12:33<vlsoft>I have a few really nice ldap+samba installations with a PDC and several BDCs...
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12:33<dbvolioooo>The file <b>/home/onemanteam/centova/centova223/centovacast-2.2.3/system/installutil.php</b> has been encoded with the <a href="http://www.ioncube.com">ionCube PHP Encoder</a> and requires the free ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so <a href="http://www.ioncube.com/loader_download/">ionCube PHP Loader</a> to be installed.
12:33<dbvolioooo>Please correct the above problems and then restart this installation
12:33<dbvolioooo>script.
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12:33<dbvolioooo>same error
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12:33<dbvolioooo>i have moved ioncube..so
12:33<vlsoft>oh I see... which php.ini file you have edited?
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12:34<dbvolioooo>into usr.local/lib
12:34<dbvolioooo>php5/apache2/
12:34<dbvolioooo>php.ini
12:34<vlsoft>/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
12:34<dbvolioooo>yes
12:34<vlsoft>ok, then an apache2 restart would be nice
12:34<dbvolioooo>i had rebooted my pc
12:35<dbvolioooo>server
12:35<jordanm>reboots are only required when making kernel changes
12:35<dbvolioooo>:D
12:35<vlsoft>or after half the kernel is dead because a kernel panic :)
12:35<dbvolioooo>...../etc/init.d/httpd restart
12:35<dbvolioooo>didi not worker
12:35<dbvolioooo>worked:d
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12:35<vlsoft>/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
12:35<jordanm>dbvolioooo: httpd is not what debian calls it
12:36<jordanm>dbvolioooo: you can use apache2ctl
12:36<dbvolioooo>yes i tryed to find httpd in init.d
12:36<vlsoft>well, every road leads to Rome... apache2ctl too :)
12:36<dbvolioooo>and i only found apache2
12:36<vlsoft>that's the one you have to restart :)
12:36<dbvolioooo>i did restarted apache2 from there but i thaught to restart all my server
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12:37<dbvolioooo>:d
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12:38<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, would you paste the results of a "head -n 20 /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini" on pastebin?
12:38<dbvolioooo>???
12:38<dbvolioooo>meaning???
12:38-!-lindsai [~lindsay@71-219-161-80.clsp.qwest.net] has quit []
12:38<dbvolioooo>first 20 lines?
12:38<vlsoft>yes
12:39<dbvolioooo>:D
12:39<dbvolioooo>ok
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12:39*Allanis wants fibre optics
12:39*vlsoft wants Allanis
12:39<Allanis>Oh, ok
12:39<vlsoft>lol
12:40<dbvolioooo>http://pastebin.com/5K9RWsjk
12:40<dbvolioooo>:D
12:40<dbvolioooo>beginner:D
12:40<vlsoft>well, a bit too much of zendextension lines..
12:40<vlsoft>and it should be after [PHP] too... (although I have a feeling PHP ignores section names)
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12:41<vlsoft>you need only one line, with the correct path.
12:41<vlsoft>let it be this one:
12:41<vlsoft>zend_extension = /usr/local/lib/ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so
12:41<vlsoft>or not...
12:41<vlsoft>zend_extension = /usr/local/lib/ioncube/ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so
12:41<vlsoft>^^^^^^^ THIS
12:41<dbvolioooo>???
12:42<vlsoft>remove the first 3 lines, and paste the one I marked last time after the [PHP] line
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12:42<dbvolioooo>ok
12:42<dbvolioooo>so i must move the whole ioncube folder to usr/local/lib??
12:42<vlsoft>yes
12:42<jordanm>this is to obfuscate code with commercial software??
12:42<vlsoft>ioncube? yes.
12:43<vlsoft>and to scare end users enough not to use it :P
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12:43<vlsoft>although ioncube started as a PHP accelerator, and that was nice... then turned itself into this nasty evil thing...
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12:44<vlsoft>easy come, easy go...
12:44<dbvolioooo>what evil thing?
12:44<vlsoft>ioncube, a code obfuscating tool..
12:44<dbvolioooo>encoding php scripts?
12:45<vlsoft>I have a feeling we believe in a dream here... Free software...
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12:45<vlsoft>ioncube stands against that dream...
12:45<dbvolioooo>:D
12:45<vlsoft>"but meh", as my good friend Allanis would say :)
12:45<dbvolioooo>nice thaught
12:45<Allanis>Lol
12:46<jordanm>vlsoft: I would not support commercial software for free...
12:46<vlsoft>lol :P
12:46<jordanm>I am sure they have a staff they pay to support
12:46<vlsoft>me neither, but I'm supporting a real person at this momemt :)
12:46<vlsoft>moment*
12:46<vlsoft>hey dbvolioooo , I hope you're not an AI :)
12:47<dbvolioooo>c'mon
12:47<dbvolioooo>man i'm a beginner
12:47<dbvolioooo>beginners need help
12:47<vlsoft>ok, it was just a joke.
12:47<dbvolioooo>you are professionals teach beginners
12:47<vlsoft>and with all my respect in it.
12:47<dbvolioooo>:D
12:47<dbvolioooo>yes
12:47<dbvolioooo>i respect the pro's
12:47<dbvolioooo>they have alot to teach
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12:48<vlsoft>And I respect the beginners who took the courage to start learning new things.
12:48<dbvolioooo>thanks for encouraging::D:D:D:
12:48<vlsoft>So now that we licked each other around thoroughly, back to work... done with the modifications? restart apache2...
12:49<vlsoft>(referring to _cats_, before someone gets the wrong idea...)
12:49<dbvolioooo>i'm on the last line :D
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12:50<Allanis>Going to spend some time with Mat, talk to you soon VLsoft
12:50<vlsoft>ok
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12:50<lindisima>ola
12:50<dbvolioooo>oi
12:50<vlsoft>Hi!
12:50<dbvolioooo>wait
12:50<lindisima>hello
12:50<Allanis>Me wait
12:50<Allanis>?
12:50<dbvolioooo>so i restarted it
12:50<vlsoft>I'm not going anywhere, only Allanis...
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12:51<vlsoft>so, now that you have it restarted, does it work?
12:51<dbvolioooo>no
12:51<dbvolioooo>The file <b>/home/onemanteam/centova/centova223/centovacast-2.2.3/system/installutil.php</b> has been encoded with the <a href="http://www.ioncube.com">ionCube PHP Encoder</a> and requires the free ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so <a href="http://www.ioncube.com/loader_download/">ionCube PHP Loader</a> to be installed.
12:51<dbvolioooo>Please correct the above problems and then restart this installation
12:51<dbvolioooo>script.
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12:51<vlsoft>do an "ls -l /usr/local/lib/ioncube/ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so"
12:52-!-ander [~ander@2001:ba8:1f1:f0b7:216:5eff:fe00:134] has joined #debian
12:52<vlsoft>the result should be one line, paste it here.
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12:53<dbvolioooo>-rwxr-xr-x 1 500 500 988124 2010-05-13 19:55 /usr/local/lib/ioncube/ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so
12:53<vlsoft>well, that's in place then...
12:53<dbvolioooo>is it good? or bad
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12:53<vlsoft>then an "ls -l /usr/local/lib/ | grep ioncube"
12:53-!-sarr0 [~ghut97.p@91.Red-217-126-249.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
12:54<vlsoft>(I want to see if the www-data user can access it or not...)
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12:55<dbvolioooo>Folosire: grep [OPÅ¢IUNE]... TIPAR [FIÅIER]...
12:55<dbvolioooo>ÃncercaÅ£i `grep --help' pentru mai multe informaÅ£ii.
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12:55<vlsoft>umm... copy-paste without the " characters...
12:55<dbvolioooo>no
12:55<dbvolioooo>i forgot to type a word in the command:D
12:55<dbvolioooo>ma bad:d
12:55<vlsoft>ok
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12:55<dbvolioooo>drwxr-xr-x 2 500 root 4096 2010-05-19 14:45 ioncube
12:55<dbvolioooo>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 988124 2010-05-24 19:20 ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so
12:56<vlsoft>then that's all right too...
12:56<vlsoft>now PHP should load it without problems...
12:56-!-ander [~ander@2001:ba8:1f1:f0b7:216:5eff:fe00:134] has joined #debian
12:56<vlsoft>you have a phpinfo() call in a php file somewhere?
12:56<dbvolioooo>???
12:56<vlsoft>so you can test the site, which modules are loaded and which not...
12:57<dbvolioooo>don't understand:D
12:57<dbvolioooo>oh
12:57<dbvolioooo>no
12:57<dbvolioooo>yes\
12:57<vlsoft>echo '<?php phpinfo() ?>' > /var/www/testme.php
12:57<dbvolioooo>oh
12:57<dbvolioooo> that kind
12:57<dbvolioooo>i have installed gnupanel on server
12:57<vlsoft>then you can ask for http://yoursite.yourdomain/testme.php
12:57<dbvolioooo>it works nice
12:58<dbvolioooo>n o problem with php
12:58<vlsoft>and it should show a nice info panel for php
12:58<vlsoft>this is PHP's own output, it tells you which modules are loaded and which not.
12:58<dbvolioooo>yes
12:58<dbvolioooo>i saw it once
12:58<dbvolioooo>but i don't know how to get it :D
12:58<dbvolioooo>i forgot:((
12:58<vlsoft>on my centos system, ioncube is shown in the Additional Modules section...
12:59<dbvolioooo>how to get one?
12:59<vlsoft>do that echo command from above
12:59<centyx>dbvolioooo: man, just do what he said. it's crazy enough he's helping you with ioncube in #debian
12:59<vlsoft>that creates a testme.php for you
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12:59<jordanm>centyx: thats what I said...
12:59<dbvolioooo>ok
13:00<dbvolioooo>right now\
13:00<vlsoft>lol, we should really go private :P
13:00<vlsoft>of course our chatter adds to the liveliness of this channel, but still, not exactly a debian-friendly topic...
13:00<dbvolioooo>ok
13:01<dbvolioooo>there it's my gnupanel
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13:01<dbvolioooo>so
13:01<dbvolioooo>can't:((
13:01<vlsoft>where's your webroot?
13:01<vlsoft>(the folder your website is stored in)
13:01<dbvolioooo>var/www
13:01<vlsoft>ok, then do this:
13:01<vlsoft>echo '<?php phpinfo(); ?>' > /var/www/testme.php
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13:02<vlsoft>then load up your site in a browser like this: http://localhost/testme.php
13:02<vlsoft>then search for the word "ionCube" on that page.
13:02<vlsoft>if it's there, it is loaded.
13:02<vlsoft>if not, then PHP decided not to load it for some reason.
13:02<dbvolioooo>ok
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13:04<dbvolioooo>i saw it once
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13:04<dbvolioooo>it's ok
13:04<dbvolioooo>and now too
13:04<lindisima>hello
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13:04<dbvolioooo>so the script it's fried
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13:04<lindisima>my ffriend
13:05<dbvolioooo>then
13:05<dbvolioooo>how to install centova??
13:05<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, so, if it shows up in the output of phpinfo(), then it should be working too.
13:05<dbvolioooo>it works
13:05<lindisima>ola soy española so cabron
13:05<dbvolioooo>but the script may be bad
13:05<vlsoft>then I have no idea why it throws your error...
13:05<@Ganneff>!es
13:05<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
13:05<lindisima>jajaja soy española
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13:05<dbvolioooo>so
13:05<dbvolioooo>advice??
13:06<vlsoft>dbvolioooo, talk in private...
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13:21<andalepaco>Hola buen dia me e connectado por que tengo un problema al instalar debian
13:22<bja>!es andalepaco
13:22<dpkg>andalepaco: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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13:22<andalepaco>gracias por la info
13:22<bja>np
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13:49<vlsoft>I have to go now, thanks for the fun, guys :)
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13:57<centyx>does dpkg have a "what provides" command?
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13:59<amphi>centyx: apt-file search foo will tell you in what package (including uninstalled) a file is in, if that's what you mean
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13:59<jordanm>centyx: no, you need to install apt-file
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14:00<centyx>jordanm: was just doing that, thanks
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14:00<jordanm>its not integrated like with yum (and actually functions the opposite e.g. *bin/foo with yum, bin/foo with apt-file)
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14:01<ronniehood>hi, can someone give me advise howto install debian 5.0 or higher on a thinclient(hp t5735), I can do a install from usb (complete image from HP) but that is 4.0 and I cannot update it for some reason. If I do a fresh install from usb then I need drivers, but I don't have separate drivers
14:01<darsie>Hi! In mc I can't execute macros quickly by pressing e.g. <ctrl>-key. Only <ctrl>-a-key works. Anyone know how to do that?
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14:02<darsie>Actually, in mcedit ...
14:02<jordanm>ronniehood: "for some reason"?
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14:03<ronniehood>I try but i got a black screen, when I check the kernel is not updated
14:03<ronniehood>x-server does not start
14:03<sparky4>I am haveing problems with Nvidia drivers and Debian squeeze
14:04<ronniehood>I need a newer kernel for some hardware
14:04<jordanm>ronniehood: most people don't run a full OS on a thin client... because then it is no longer really a thin client
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14:04<jordanm>ronniehood: .32 is available in backports. etch has .18, so if it works with that, you don't need a newer kernel than lenny provides
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14:05<jordanm>ronniehood: being an HP specific image they could have 3rd party modules installed
14:06<ronniehood>the only thing that i wanted to run on it is CCcam 2.14 and a webserver, if the rest fails then that is no problem. Smargo cardreader must work
14:06<sparky4>I cannot install the Nvidia drivers for my card in squeeze
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14:07<amphi>!nvidia squeeze
14:07<dpkg>The nvidia drivers currently in squeeze are compatible with the squeeze kernel. No need for a testing/unstable mix now. Use either module-assistant or DKMS to compile them; ask me about <nvidia m-a> <nvidia dkms>.
14:08<jordanm>(but no longer compatible with xserver < 1.6)
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14:09<sparky4>The Nvidia legacey drivers 173xx will NOT build it self
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15:12<h>hey there someone please would advice me to put a price on some webhosting services...
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15:13<jordanm>h: this isn't really appropriate place to ask.
15:13<h>where can i ask?
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15:15<jordanm>h: uhh, a business or finance channel? maybe an off-topic channel
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15:17<h>ok thanx
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15:22<jackz>facebook doesn't work here in iceweasel :/
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15:22<jackz>can't like or suggest to friends et
15:22<jackz>c
15:23<will>does Facebook really work at all?
15:23<jordanm>works for my mom...
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15:23<centyx>heh.
15:23<will>it's still in beta test
15:23<dkr>too easy
15:23<jackz>strange
15:23<will>for all users
15:23<jackz>on Ubuntu is works
15:23<jackz>it
15:24<jordanm>jackz: if you are running lenny, you can try iceweasel from lenny-backports
15:24<jordanm>,versions iceweasel
15:24<judd>iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.8-1~bpo50+2; sid: 3.5.9-3; squeeze: 3.5.9-3; experimental: 3.6.4~build2-1
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15:24<jackz>I use testing
15:24<will>jackz: Iceweasel on Ubuntu works with Facebook?
15:25<jackz>firefox
15:25<will>testing...
15:25<will>isn't stable
15:25<will>why people should expect something in testing be stable?
15:25<jackz>come on
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15:26<jordanm>!moving target
15:26<dpkg>Sure, testing might be shiner that stable, but are you prepared to be continually updating your system? Things that worked today will break tomorrow. Configuration file formats will change and you'll have to fold your changes in yet again. Testing is a moving target and if you'd rather work *with* your computer rather than working *on* your computer, you might not want that. See <testing security>.
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15:27<will>jackz: Firefox is not Iceweasel
15:28<will>in fact Iceweasel is better :-P
15:28<will>but if you expect your system to be stable then choose Lenny
15:29<will>but some users like buggy things like Facebook security
15:29<will>:-D
15:31<jackz>I like iceweasel and hate facebook, but hey....
15:31<will>It worked here on Lenny
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15:32<will>with a newbie KCI
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15:33<will>but I didn't test Facebook since last year :-D
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15:34<jackz>aptitude install epiphany-browser
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15:35<will>I don't share my life with Mark Zuckerberg
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15:35<COD_ErZeKy_COD>la
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15:36<COD_ErZeKy_COD>ola
15:36<bja>!es-social COD_ErZeKy_COD
15:36<dpkg>COD_ErZeKy_COD: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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15:36<will>olala
15:36<will>:-D
15:36<COD_ErZeKy_COD>ola
15:36<COD_ErZeKy_COD>ola will
15:37<COD_ErZeKy_COD>:)
15:37<bja>COD_ErZeKy_COD: calla
15:37<COD_ErZeKy_COD>callate tu
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15:37<COD_ErZeKy_COD>callate tu golfo de mierda
15:38<will>wow
15:38<bja>!ops COD_ErZeKy_COD needs to be escorted out
15:38<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: bja complains about: COD_ErZeKy_COD needs to be escorted out
15:38<COD_ErZeKy_COD>ola will
15:38<COD_ErZeKy_COD>hello will
15:38<COD_ErZeKy_COD>bja callate
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15:38-!-mode/#debian [+o weasel] by ChanServ
15:38<will>well
15:38-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*COD_ErZeK@*.175.228.29.static.user.ono.com] by weasel
15:38-!-COD_ErZeKy_COD was kicked from #debian by weasel [COD_ErZeKy_COD]
15:38-!-mode/#debian [-o weasel] by weasel
15:39<will>I think he doesn't know how to say in english "ban me"
15:39<will>^^
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15:40<bja>weasel: thx
15:40<yaiza>olaaa
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15:42<witte>Hello, I have a gnome problem. When I want to open a pdf from within an application I can't open it anymore. Sometimes I get an error such as "Error showing url: Failed to execute child process "/home/dirk/acroread/Adobe/Reader9/bin/acroread" (No such file or directory)" (after invoking texdoc), under gnome programs (e.g. referencer) I get errors as "Exception: Invalid parameters" and "The operation underway was: "ex
15:42<witte>ecuting UI action""
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15:43<will>let me guess
15:43<will>testing?
15:43<jordanm>witte: it looks like you have installed adobe reader to your homedir and are using that. if this is the case, you should go to ##adobe on irc.freenode.net (_think_ that exists)
15:43<witte>I think the problem has to do that I tried to change from evince to another pdf reader (tried acroread, but ended up with kpdf), and i think that the solution lies somewhere in gconf-editor
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15:44<witte>jordanm: yeah, but I removed acroread, so it has changed something in one or the other config file
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15:44<witte>jordanm: it would most likely put evince back, which is also not what i want
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15:45<witte>jordanm: gnome does not really seem to use /etc/alternatives
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15:47<jordanm>witte: it has a gui for preferred applications. IIRC its tied into nautilus in some way
15:48<witte>jordanm: yes, but in preferred applications there is no pdf viewer
15:48<witte>I'll have a look somewhere in nautilus
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15:51<alex__>ciao
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15:52<witte>jordanm: no pdf configuration in nautilus either
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15:54<jordanm>witte: right click -> open with -> checkbox "always open with"
15:54<jordanm>atleast, that is how it works in thunar
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16:02<witte>jordanm: that seems to have worked! you have no idea how many config files etc I have seen to change this. I also never open nautilus as i prefer command line. I just changed to gnome after years (6 or so) being a windowmaker user :P
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16:37<darius>i just got usb data cable for my samsung c100, so the question is: then i plug my phone to the usb via cable, should i see it in lsusb list?
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16:40<dondelelcaro>darius: depends on what kind of device, but yes, that's usually how it works
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16:41<darius>is data cable the usb device itself or its needs the phone to act as one?
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16:44<darius>phone is somthing old.. was in production about 2003 :) it does not have an usb
16:44<jordanm>witte: good to see!
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16:46<witte>jordanm: well, texdoc already works, now referencer
16:46<witte>jordanm: probably that is configured somewhere completely different :-(
16:46<jordanm>witte: atleast one thing is out of the way
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16:48<witte>jordanm: yeah, and maybe it needs to gnome to reload or something, don't feel like searching for it anymore, but if anyone has a clue...
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17:16<Allanis>Question:
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17:16<Allanis>The nick Sara is taken, any way we can see if it is actualy in use? and if not could I take it?
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17:17<bja>Allanis: /msg nickserv info sara
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17:18<bja>Allanis: take a trip to #oftc they can give you a hand ;P
17:19<Allanis>It was actualy last used 2 years ago
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17:54<dandana>hi,
17:55<dandana>can be added a new kernel to a lenny install ?
17:55<|darsie|>sure
17:55<dandana>as an example the last 2.6.34
17:55<dandana>exist a package or i must compile it ?
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17:56<craigevil>dandana: use backports, or you can build 2.6.34
17:56<dandana>howto use backports ?
17:56<craigevil>!tell dandana about backports
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17:57<|darsie|>What about installing a testing kernel package on lenny?
17:57<dandana>i want the new radeon driver
17:58<dandana>and also to do an install on a usb hdd
17:58<craigevil>|darsie|: testing kernel would probably need at the very least a newer GCC
17:58<|darsie|>the binary package?
17:59<dandana>if etxist a binary why not ?
17:59<dandana>exist
17:59<|darsie|>it's for the next debian release which is in testing status.
17:59<dandana>backports has it ?
17:59<|darsie|>might install/upgrade some packages to testing level.
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18:00<dandana>do you know what packages I need ?
18:00<|darsie|>I don't see 2.6.34 linux images.
18:01<craigevil>2.6.34 is not in Debian, even experimental only has 2.6.33, if you want 2.6.34 you will need to compile it
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18:02<|darsie|>download from e.g. kernel.org
18:02<ml|>,kernels
18:02<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.5); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-13); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.4-686 (2.6.32-11~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
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18:04<dandana>so
18:04<dandana>if i want to test 2.6.34 i must compile it
18:05<|darsie|>looks like it
18:05<dandana>thanks
18:05<|darsie|>yw
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18:05<dandana>will search for documentation about it
18:05<|darsie|>documentation comes with the kernel.
18:06<dandana>the last linux kernel that i have compiled was 2.4.3
18:06<witte>dandana: there is a debian package here: http://blog.robertalks.com/index.php/2010/05/19/kernel-2-6-34-final-is-here/
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18:06<ml|>unless you need something 2.6.34 has that you need, the bpo kernel should do
18:06<|darsie|>there is inline documentation with the configuration script.
18:06<witte>this is a custom built kernel, and i do not know anything about it and give no warranty ;-)
18:07<|darsie|>It might even have backdoors :)
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18:08<ml|>dandana: if you still want to ask dpkg about... /msg dpkg make-kpkg; kp mantra; and khb
18:08<dandana>thanks for the warning
18:10<Stemby>Hi, I'd like to use fluid-soundfont-* with Totem, how can I do? Is it possible?
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18:12<Stemby>I tried to substitute /etc/wildmidi/wildmidi.conf with the content of /etc/timidity/fluidr3_gm.conf, but it doesn't work
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18:16<dandana>what audio player should i install ?
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18:16<|darsie|>I use mpg123 :)
18:16<|darsie|>and mplayer
18:17<|darsie|>I used xmms but that is no longer working and I don't get along with xmms2.
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18:18<|darsie|>I tried mpd, but didn't get it to work. Didn't try too hard, though.
18:20<dandana>i use xmms but not on debian
18:21<|darsie|>xmms is no longer supported, isn't it?
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18:21<dandana>haven't noticed that until now
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18:22<dandana>xmms is in last freebsd ports
18:22<dandana>will se
18:22<dandana>thanks
18:22<witte>xmms is replaced by audacious i beleive
18:23<witte>!xmms
18:23<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, xmms is the old X MultiMedia System media player. Removed from Debian post-Etch to resolve bug #461309, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html for removal reasons. For alternatives, ask me about <amarok>, <audacious>, <exaile>, <qmmp>, <quod libet>, <rhythmbox>, <xmms2>.
18:23<ml|>you need to try them to see what you like, search the repos
18:24<witte>amarok is more extensive if I remember correctly. I heard a lot of Rhythmbox, but never used it myself (so don't know whether it's good or not)
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18:25<ml|>xmms2, mpd, moc, etc.. and for simple playing mplayer
18:26<dandana>exist a way to remove a package and recursively dependecies installed by it ?
18:26<|darsie|>if you didn't install the dependencies manually, yes.
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18:28<|darsie|>apt-get autoremove
18:28<|darsie|>can't find the option in aptitude.
18:29<|darsie|>first remove the one package.
18:29<marcosroriz>guys
18:29<marcosroriz>I was thinking on installing debian testing on my netbook.
18:29<marcosroriz>anyone here with debian on the netbook?
18:31<dandana>thanks
18:31<dandana>will try audacious
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18:32<ml|>aptitude should remove what's not needed anymore and using deborphan helps
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18:33<ml|>marcosroriz: you should install lenny and if you still want to move to testing, do that after
18:34<marcosroriz>ml|, it's because I like recent software
18:34<marcosroriz>:)
18:34<qq->~!sns
18:34<marcosroriz>isn't like the debian testing == ubuntu in terms of package version?
18:34<qq->!sns
18:34<dpkg>Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
18:34<dandana>does debian install autmatically sound ?
18:34<ml|>do you understand what testing is?
18:35<marcosroriz>yeah
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18:35<ml|>using debian long?
18:35<marcosroriz>used to
18:35<marcosroriz>I've used like 2 years ago
18:35<marcosroriz>then switched to arch - > ubuntu -> switching again
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18:36<ml|>it's up to, but you should install and use lenny for a bit then move to testing
18:36<marcosroriz>are you on lenny right now?
18:36<marcosroriz>:3
18:36<dandana>howto add sound support ?
18:36<dandana>it's lenny
18:37<qq->!alsa
18:37<dpkg>ALSA is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, a project providing device drivers for sound cards. To install, ask me about <install alsa>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <alsa versions>, <alsaconf>. http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/ #alsa on irc.freenode.net.
18:37<|darsie|>I recently installed lenny and it configured sound.
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18:38<dandana>alsa it's not installed
18:38<dandana>will try
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18:39<dandana>what do i need for sound ?
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18:40<dandana>linux-sound-base
18:40<dandana>alsa-base
18:40<ml|>marcosroriz: if you still want to, install lenny and /msg dpkg testing and /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze
18:40<|darsie|>try /msg dpkg install alsa
18:40<marcosroriz>ml|, ok
18:41<marcosroriz>ml|, personal question are you running lenny?
18:41<|darsie|>or '/query dpkg' then type 'install alsa'
18:41<ml|>marcosroriz: no
18:41<marcosroriz>testing?
18:41<marcosroriz>sid xD?
18:41<ml|>testing
18:42<dandana>what about with dpkg here ?
18:42<|darsie|>I'm running testing ... and it's somewhat annoying.
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18:42<dandana>it's interesting
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18:42<|darsie|>dandana: dpkg suggested to ask it about <install alsa>.
18:42<ml|>but, I have being using debian for a while and understand what testing is
18:43<marcosroriz>cool
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18:43<dandana>thanks
18:44<|darsie|>Sometimes I think I'm a bad admin but maybe that's because I use testing.
18:44<ml|>it's best to use lenny for a bit and then move to testing if that's what you want; but it's your choice/machine; good luck
18:45<|darsie|>my e16 is kinda broken and I hope it will return to normal some day.
18:45<dandana>howto quit/close alsamixer ?
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18:45<ml|>esc
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18:47<dandana>audacious has crashed
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18:48<darsie>you can use reportbug
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18:50<dandana>darsie i am new to debian
18:50<darsie>dandana: To test audio you can try mpg123. very simple commandline player.
18:50<dandana>i know mpg123
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18:50<darsie>I also use aumix
18:50<dandana>but i want one with gui
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18:51<darsie>yeah, just for testing, if the alsa install works.
18:51<bja>vlc
18:51<dandana>it seems that you are a console user
18:51<darsie>not exclusively.
18:52<darsie>I use kvirc, iceweasel, icedove, ...
18:52<ml|>or smplayer for gui
18:52<bja>dandana: there is also moc for cli
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18:53<dandana>before doing bug reporting let me be a debian guy
18:53<dandana>:)
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18:53<darsie>sure. I just said you *can* use reportbug.
18:53<dandana>i use debian from about......... 30 minutes
18:54<dandana>and installed it using netinstall CD
18:55<darsie>I recently installed debian from a HD partition. Nice experience.
18:55<dandana>more than 30 minutes if you count the installation time
18:55<darsie>No CD burning, no anything.
18:55<dandana>excelent
18:56<dandana>aptitude is the last package manager ?
18:56<darsie>AFAIK, yes.
18:56<icebrain>dandana: I don't know what you mean by last, but it's the recommended one, yes
18:56<icebrain>!why aptitude
18:56<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>).
18:57<dandana>as i remmember it was initially dpkg followed apt-get .....
18:57<ml|>dandana: you should read the debian reference.. /msg dpkg reference
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18:59<darsie>Is it possible to install debian remotely?
18:59<dandana>excellent documentation
19:00<dandana>why not
19:00<dandana>you have saed that you have done an install from a partition
19:01<Sara>darsie, use a PLD rescue cd and bootstrap.
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19:01<Sara>debootstrap*
19:01<dandana>if you have on that partition also debian and ssh
19:01<Sara>Sorry
19:01<darsie>Well, it would need to configure networking, launch sshd and start the installer remotely ...
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19:02<dandana>yes
19:02<Sara>The PLD disk works fine. I actualy did mine using a PLD.
19:03<dandana>what is PLD ?
19:03<darsie>Sara: using a rescue CD isn't exactly remotely. But I guess, it can be installed and booted via a partition.
19:03<Sara>It is a Rescuse CD
19:03<Sara>Well, I had skipped the installation
19:03<Sara>As my sistem was patitioned.
19:03<Sara>system*
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19:04<dandana>without any OS on target computer isn't possible
19:04<dandana>now
19:04<dandana>probably some servers have that in bios
19:04<darsie>I'm thinking of a machine with e.g. some kind of Linux installed to which you can ssh and noone there to burn or insert CDs etc.
19:05<dandana>you can in that case
19:05<darsie>But I should rather google if I actually want to do it.
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19:06<dandana>darsie i'm interested about that too
19:06<dandana>if you have linux on that computer
19:07<dandana>and wan'a install debian
19:07<dandana>ssh to it
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19:07<dandana>and do an partition install as you did it
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19:07<darsie>or debian testing and you want stable.
19:08<darsie>dandana: Yes, but with the netinstall from partition you get the installer asking you questions on the local console and keyboard.
19:08<darsie>and no sshd running.
19:09<darsie>can't even reboot then.
19:09<dandana>haven't saed to use netinstall
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19:10<darsie>you said: and do an partition install as you did it
19:11<dandana>i haven't understood
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19:11<dandana>:)
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19:12<darsie>I just put a kernel and and initrd on an 8 MB partition and started that.
19:13<darsie>then the installer did a netinstall. First question was 'which language', IIRC.
19:14<dandana>put more on that partition
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19:14<dandana>a minimal debian with ssh acces
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19:15<dandana>also a tarball with files to be installed
19:15<darsie>Yeah, put a working debian on a partition might work. But that's the job of the installer, usually.
19:16<dandana>the usual installer won't work
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19:16<darsie>I'll google that if I want to do it. Sure someone has tried that before.
19:17<dandana>i guess that you must format . extract the tarball , config the bootloader
19:17<tlyu>nobody does boot-into-swap anymore?
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19:17<Necrocter>TEAM PlanB
19:17<darsie>tlyu: You mean resume from hibernate?
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19:18<tlyu>darsie: while booted into one operating system, disable swap, copy a bootable miniroot into swap partition, set firmware to boot the swap partition, reboot, and pray.
19:18<darsie>I killed my swap to create the 8 MB partition for the vmlinux+initrd.
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19:44<otto>why is mencoder not available in the official repositories, and mplayer is...?
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19:47<boboysdadda>i dunno
19:47<darsie>maybe some license or patent issue
19:48<darsie>but you can look for mencoder packages at apt-get.org
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19:53<dandana>exists a script to configure pppoe in debian ?
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19:54<otto>pppoe-setup
19:54<otto>is the script
19:55<dandana>i what package is it ?
19:55<otto>pppoe
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19:55<chealer>!tell dandana about pppoe
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19:56<otto>!tell otto about pppoe
19:58<otto>!tell otto about mencoder
19:58<darsie>good night ...
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19:59<dandana>good night darsie
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20:03<dandana>hi
20:03<dandana>howto install flash in debian ?
20:03<dandana>flashplugin
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20:03<Ikarus>apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree for the closed source one from Adobe
20:04<dandana>in what repo is flashplugin ?
20:05<darsie>he said flashplugin-nonfree
20:05<dandana>i have only lenny's default source.list
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20:06<Ikarus>dandana: it is in non-free
20:06<Ikarus>(kinda duh)
20:07<boboysdadda>how do i install zuma deluxe in wine?
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20:09<Ikarus>boboysdadda: #winehq on Freenode might be a better place to ask
20:09<boboysdadda>kk ty
20:09<dandana>f doesn't find it i must edit source.list and do an update ?
20:09<Ikarus>dandana: yup
20:09<Ikarus>or use one of the managment tools to edit it
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20:10<craigevil>dandana: if you are using stable flashplugin-nonfree is in the backports repo
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20:10<dandana>i use lenny
20:11<dandana>so what i must add in source.list
20:11<craigevil>!tell dandana about backports
20:12<dandana>what is the backports repo name ?
20:12<dandana>found
20:12<dandana>thanks
20:13<zalithian>Have a question, Grub related.
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20:14<chealer>!tell otto about selftell
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20:16<otto>sorry chealer didnt know that, wont happen agan
20:16<otto>;-)
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20:19<dandana>what about selftell ?
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20:31<drewdavis>zalithian: No need for intruductions, just ask.
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20:35<Zalithian>Okay Drew. I just installed Debian and it didn't detect Fedora, so I'm trying to add it to menu.lst but I'm not really sure how to open it in the terminal and what to add. I believe it's hd0, 1.
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20:43<drewdavis>Okay, are you using Lenny?
20:44<Zalithian>Yes
20:44<Necrocter>TEAM PlanB
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20:52<Zalithian>brb might have figured it out. gonna check
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20:55<Zalithian>Okay. What I tried did not work.
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21:05<drax>#debian
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21:07<gpm_>how can i figure out what kind of motherboard i have using software (i can't open the box up)?
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21:09<drax>hi
21:10<drax>someone have issues reading a dvd-r dl?
21:11<drax>i have burned it on a windows with nero
21:11<drax>i have burned 2 dvd-r dl and 2 dvd-r
21:11<drax>i can read the dvd-r but cannot read the dvd-r dl
21:11<drax>my driver is the LG GH22NS50
21:12<drax>that have support to dvd-r dl
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21:13<abrotman>reading a what?
21:13<abrotman>!tell gpm_ about whats my hardware
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21:14<drewdavis>zalithian: Sorry, had to go AKF. What did you try?
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21:15<drax>a dvd-r dl media
21:15<drax>or dvd-9
21:16<drewdavis>Zalithian: If you haven't already, make a copy of your known good menu.lst.
21:17<abrotman>drax: what does this have to do with Debian ?
21:17<drax>someone have issues reading that media on debian?
21:17<abrotman>ah there we go :)
21:17<drax>my driver does have suport to dvd-r dl
21:18<Zalithian>Okay. Will do. I added uh.. Fedora 12, hd0,1 makeactive chainloader +1.
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21:18<drax>but its dont read the media
21:18<drax>afk
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21:21<Zalithian>I'll have to figure this out later. Need to do something for someone.
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21:21<drewdavis>Can you pastebin the... oh, okay.
21:21<drax>back
21:22<drax>abrotman: the problem is, my driver have to read a dvd-r dl
21:22<drax>but its not reading
21:23<drax>and its is probaly something related or to debian or to a firmware update
21:23<drax>in both cases i dont know what to do
21:25<drax>i want to know if i have to install a lib or something to read dvd dl
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21:27<drax>and if not, if that have a way to make a firmware upgrade or something like that
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21:36<Zalithian>Blah. Okay. Quick, hopefully easier question. I'm logging in as root but it's still not letting me modify menu.lst.
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21:39<greg1313>is menu.lst read-only?
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21:40<Zalithian>Doesn't say that
21:41<amitz>Zalithian: define "not letting"
21:41<Zalithian>Could not save the file /boot/grub/menu.lst.You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
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21:43<iLAn_>hi Zalithian, check if the /boot partition is writeable
21:43<iLAn_>try # mount
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21:44<Zalithian>What is the full command in terminal ilan?
21:45-!-scb [~scb@201.248.13.160] has joined #debian
21:45<iLAn_># mount
21:45<iLAn_>look for 'rw' or 'ro' next to /boot line
21:46<iLAn_>if 'ro' boot partition is mounted read only
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21:46<Zalithian>I don't even see it listed.
21:47<iLAn_>can you paste the output ?
21:47<Zalithian>Should I pm it?
21:47<iLAn_>Zalithian: k
21:48<Zalithian>/msg ilan_
21:48<Zalithian>/dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
21:48<Zalithian>tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
21:48<Zalithian>proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
21:48<Zalithian>sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
21:48<Zalithian>procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
21:48<Zalithian>udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
21:48<Zalithian>tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
21:48<Zalithian>devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
21:48<Zalithian>/dev/sr0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=lightning)
21:48<Zalithian>er.
21:48<Zalithian>oops. :o
21:48<iLAn_>:
21:48<iLAn_>:)
21:48<iLAn_>anyway looks ok
21:48<iLAn_>try :
21:49<iLAn_># touch /boot/test
21:49<iLAn_>then check if the file is there
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21:51<Zalithian>Didn't say anything when I did the command. File is still there. in Computer, Filesystem, boot/grub
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21:53<iLAn_>mm ok
21:53<iLAn_>last thing i can think of is immutable flag
21:53<iLAn_>try
21:54<iLAn_># lsattr /boot/grub/menu.lst
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21:55<Zalithian>------------------- /boot/grub/menu.lst
21:55<iLAn_>look ok :)
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21:55<iLAn_>edit as root should work
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21:56<Zalithian>hmm. weird. do you have a command I can open menu.lst with gedit from terminal?
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21:56<Zalithian>I'm so confused. I just edited it like 20 minutes ago.
21:56<iLAn_>try
21:56<iLAn_># sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
21:57<iLAn_>enter your password if it wants it
21:57<Zalithian>sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
21:57<Zalithian>No protocol specified
21:57<Zalithian>cannot open display:
21:57<Zalithian>Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
21:58<iLAn_>open shell as normal user
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21:58<Zalithian>Says I'm not in the sudoers file
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21:59<iLAn_>as root:
21:59<iLAn_># visudo
21:59<iLAn_>add to the bottom of the file :
21:59<iLAn_>yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL
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21:59<iLAn_>and save
22:00<Zalithian>How do I save it?
22:01<abrotman>why does he need sudo ?
22:01<iLAn_>which editor did it open
22:01<abrotman>he can just use su
22:01<Zalithian>nano
22:02<iLAn_>CTRL-S
22:02<iLAn_>then CTRL-X
22:02<abrotman>that's a lot of work for no gain
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22:04<Zalithian>said XOFF ignored, mumble mumble
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22:06<Zalithian>it seems like that did work.
22:06<Zalithian>Any idea why that would work and not su?
22:07<iLAn_>CTRL-O
22:07<iLAn_>CTRL-X
22:07<Zalithian>I got it to save the visudo thing. It let me edit menu.lst now and it's fixed. sort of.
22:07<Zalithian>I can at least boot windows again, hopefully.
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22:08<Zalithian>I need to fix Fedora but I'll have to do that after I do a favor for my sister. Thanks for the help ilan.
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22:36<drax>hi
22:36<drax>i have a game on format mdf/mds
22:36<drax>its a windows game, never winter nights 2
22:36<drax>i want play it on wine
22:37<drax>i know that have linux support
22:37<drax>but i have a veeery slow internet at the moment
22:37<drax>so i cant download anything larger than 30 mb
22:39<drax>i want mount this ndf image
22:39<drax>*mdf
22:40<drax>someone knows a safe way to do this
22:40<drax>?
22:40<drax>or maybe i can convert it to iso, but i dont know if this a option neither how do this
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22:46<d3co>!hi
22:46<dpkg>hello, d3co
22:46<d3co>I need detec mi cam
22:46<d3co>detect my cam
22:46<d3co>It's a nikon
22:47<d3co>say:
22:47<d3co>An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device
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22:51<locsmif>drax: forget it
22:51<locsmif>you need that format to emulate the security checks
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22:51<locsmif>In Windows, you'd use daemon tools, I don't know how you would translate that to Linux, I bet you it can't be done.
22:52<locsmif>You can always try to convert to ISO, but I'm skeptical
22:52<locsmif>Perhaps do some Google and find out about the security protections your game uses first.
22:53<drax>ty
22:53<goodger>drax, # mkdir /mnt/mdf mount -t iso9660 -o loop path-to-file /mnt/mdf
22:53<goodger>sorry
22:54<goodger>drax, # mkdir /mnt/mdf && mount -t iso9660 -o loop path-to-file /mnt/mdf
22:54<drax>ok ty
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22:55<drax>its works
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22:55<drax>ty very much
22:56<drax>i will write this command
22:56<d3co>mi cam :
22:56<d3co>:(
22:57<locsmif>drax: now try the game
22:57<locsmif>Does that work too?
22:57<drax>well, its istalling
22:57<drax>but its a step closer
22:57<drax>because it readed the mdf file
22:57<drax>:)
22:57<drax>i can see even the exe
22:58<locsmif>I'm still skeptical... if it works.. you are a *lucky* man and somebody used the mdf format for no reason
22:58<drax>and the playonlinux is reading this
22:58<drax>Neverwinter nights have a version to linux, so i can aways just open the mdf
22:58<drax>get the files
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22:58<drax>and do what says there
22:59<drax>they just need the files from the cd
22:59<drax>*dvd
22:59<drax>and this i have now
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22:59<locsmif>d3co: sorry, I don't know the answer to your question ... :-/
23:00<drax>d3co, can its a headhech, but wait a moment here, someone maybe have a solution
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23:00<d3co>ok friends
23:00<locsmif>d3co: perhaps you indeed have no proper read/write access to the 'device'.. but which device is it
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23:01<d3co>is cam
23:01<abrotman>which version of wine is it? did you check the wine website?
23:02<d3co>nikon cam
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23:32<Zalithian>Hm.. so strange.
23:33<Zalithian>Any idea why I can only edit menu.lst with sudo and not su?
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23:52<Silicium01>my screen all of a suden shifted down a bit about 100 mixels
23:52<Silicium01>pixels
23:52<Zalithian>:o
23:52<Silicium01>I'm unable to move it up with monitor settings alone
23:52<Silicium01>Could this be Gnome issue?
23:53<Silicium01>or driver issue?
23:53<Zalithian>I wish I was smart enough to help.
23:53<Silicium01>:)
23:53<Zalithian>Having major issues of my own.
23:54<Silicium01>Zalithian, what issues maybe I can help
23:55<Zalithian>Well, first of all something is wrong with su I guess. I can install packages and stuff but not edit files like menu.lst or etc/group.
23:55<Zalithian>But I can edit them as sudo.
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23:56<Silicium01>so you're unable to edit them as root but able to edit them with sudo?
23:56<Zalithian>Yes
23:56<Silicium01>Strange
23:56<Zalithian>And I find it hillarious, because I logged in as root to add myself as sudo.
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23:57<Zalithian>The other issue is I'm trying to add Fedora to menu.lst again so it shows up in GRUB.
23:57<Silicium01>I dont know much about user permissions, so cant help here
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23:57<Zalithian>Not too sure what to add to menu.lst to get Fedora in there properly.
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