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---Logopened Thu Jul 08 00:00:53 2010
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00:27<kop>twb: Did you try just the --include? (Just guessing.)
00:27<twb>Yes, lemme check its log
00:27<twb>kop: same issue; it borks trying to unpack apt
00:27<kop>twb: Maybe the full package name with version?
00:28<kop>twb: Ah, then that's not it then.
00:28<twb>http://paste.debian.net/79955/
00:28<twb>Unfortunately I can't see how to stop debootstrap suppressing dpkg-deb's output
00:28<twb>At least, the manpage indicates --verbose only affects the download phase
00:30<kop>twb: The obvious grody answer is to let it install and then go back and replace it.... :-P
00:31<twb>That's plan B
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00:33<jerryclunsford>could someone tell me how you use apt to install a a downloaded program or from a different repository?
00:33<heffay>I'm having a little trouble with my X server configuration. I'm running Lenny with nvidia-vdpau-driver installed from the repository. I have to monitors attached and configured as seperate x screens. Screen 0 works fine but when i try to open a program on sceen one with 'program -display :0.1' it still opens on screen 0
00:34<kop>jerryclunsford: gdebi
00:35<heffay>Could someone help me troubleshoot?
00:36<kop>twb: Could it be that sid is broken? Have you checked bts?
00:36<jerryclunsford>kop that is a program available from the synaptic package manager isn't it?
00:36<kop>twb: I'm just poking with a stick here. I don't know anything about debootstrap.
00:36<kop>jerryclunsford: Yes.
00:37<jerryclunsford>Someone told me not to that only use apt.
00:37<kop>heffay: It might be display 1. I forget what happens by default with 2 screens.
00:38<jerryclunsford>I thought it worked fine myself.
00:38<kop>jerryclunsford: ?
00:38<jerryclunsford>someone told me only to use apt to install software
00:38<kop>jerryclunsford: Unless you know what you're doing you don't want to install non-debian/not debian repo packages.
00:38<twb>kop: well, this issue has been around for a year or two
00:38<twb>kop: I haven't bothered to chase it down until now
00:39<jerryclunsford>I have enough of a problem with deb packages for now not about to try anything else.
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00:40<jerryclunsford>Thanks for the info kop have a nice night or day as the case may be.
00:40<kop>jerryclunsford: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/24/reg_linux_guide_3/
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00:43<kop>twb: That's what you get for not fileing a bug report way back then. ;-)
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00:44<heffay>ok looks like i solved the problem of how to start the program. I should have used DISPLAY=:0.1 program
00:44<heffay>but how can i toggle my mouse and keyboard control from screen to screen?
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00:54<jerryclunsford>kop nice site Thanks again.
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01:42<noguest>good everybody
01:43<noguest>i just found the reboot command "sudo reboot" caused some unexpected memory card recognize issue, on debian 5.0.5
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01:44<noguest>i have two memory cards, one is 128m, one is 256m, after login, i typed "sudo reboot", then the cmos reported your total memory changed, press F2 into cmos, see only 256m memory detected
01:45<noguest>another, could any of you help me a guide, how to install scim?
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01:46<noguest>i gave up tonight for have scim on the panel to specify non-engligh input, like choose chinese wubi or pinying, it does not show on panel
01:47<jm_>noguest: for your first question try #hardware (possibly on freenode), but it might mean your motherboard doesn't support such configuration
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02:25<PRAGAT>hi i want to set my cups pdf priter ??
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02:25<PRAGAT>can ny1 help mee
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02:55<deavid>i'm trying to configure apt-get with a local mirror of debian and i'm having problems... but i did this before without problems ¿can someone help me pointing the problem?
02:56<deavid>http://pastebin.com/CH7xkYW0
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03:23<sparky4>hi
03:23<sparky4>can you help me with this sound?
03:28<simonrvn>beep!
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03:41<mercutio22>hehehe
03:41<mercutio22>=]
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03:42<simonrvn>sparky4: beep!
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04:02<Judoka>I just bought a DWL-g650 pc card installed the drivers and installed it on a pc with win xp, but it refuses to connect to my wifi secured connection
04:02<Judoka>what should i do?
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04:05<Judoka>ok it's too late for this anyway
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04:16<mercutio22>Weird.. aptitude wants to remove important parts of my system like gdm!
04:16<mercutio22>wtf
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04:33<cthuluh>mercutio22: aptitude's probably right, let him do his job ;)
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04:37<karme>latest sid kernel update breaks my kvm setup / hangs on boot in kvm - anybody else seen that?
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04:40<mercutio22>oh.... gdm3 now replaces gdm
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04:40<mercutio22>Well.. aptitude removed network-manager-gnome
04:40<mercutio22>I had to manually reinstall it
04:41<mercutio22>I also miss the language selector app
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04:48<mercutio22>Oh... debian lacks one
04:49<jm_>what language selector app?
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05:04<mercutio22>jm_: its called gnome-language-selector
05:04<mercutio22>jm_: not on debian repos it seeems
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05:12<jm_>mercutio22: looks like some ubuntu thing
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05:17<mercutio22>jm_: its a nifty tool. It'd be cool to have it incorporated into debian
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06:03<allan`>hello good morning
06:03<allan`>good afternoon rather
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06:04<tomg>greetings citizen
06:05<allan`>how to install python compiler?
06:05<tomg>There is no Python compiler, it is an interpreted language, which means that there is no compiler
06:06<tomg>glad I could help :-)
06:07<dr|z3d>allan`: aptitude install gedit might help.
06:08<dr|z3d>Hell, you might even want to install python itself, if it isn't already.
06:08<dbvolio>hi
06:08<dbvolio>how i install ssh ?
06:09<jm_>with apt
06:09<dr|z3d>aptitude install openssh-server
06:09<Lethalman>dbvolio, aptitude install ssh
06:09<dbvolio>yes
06:09<dbvolio>got it
06:09<dbvolio>but that is all
06:09<dbvolio>openssh?
06:09<dbvolio>no other ?
06:09<dr|z3d>You want fries with that?
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06:10<sosnix>hi
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06:10<sosnix>is there servers polish Debian IRC?
06:10<dbvolio>no but i thaught there was more packages to be installed to make ssh work on a debian lenny server
06:10<allan`>dr|z3d : aptitude install python right?
06:10<dr|z3d>!pl
06:10<dpkg>methinks pl is polska -> #debian-pl (on irc.freenode.net). Also, pl is a common extension for perl scripts and is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "packet loss".
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06:10<dbvolio>thanks
06:10<allan`>thanks tomg
06:10<allan`>:)
06:11<dr|z3d>allan`: what does apt-cache search python tell you?
06:11<tomg>allan: maybe dr|z3d is right too
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06:18<dbvolio>how to restrict root login over ssh?
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06:18<petemc>permitrootlogin in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
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06:20<dbvolio>thanks :D
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06:23<allan`>dr|z3d : lots of txt apperead like 500 pages
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06:24<sosnix>hi
06:24<sosnix> mkntpwd_1.00-1_i386.deb i cant found this
06:24<sosnix>please help me
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06:24<sosnix>links is broken in polish tutorial ;(
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06:25<allan`>petemc is it possible to set a root to a certain user?i have root privilege.but if i add another root user, can user access my home dir even if i set chown +x?
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06:26<allan`>petemc : i set my user chmod o-x
06:27<allan`>nevermind.ill test it
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06:30<allan`>ok its possible lol
06:30<allan`>root is powerful
06:31<allan`>even if i chmod o-x my home?
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06:48<bremner>that is more or less the point of root.
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07:35<detly>hey, I just got a new laptop, and discovered the ability to run X apps remotely using "ssh -X -C desktop.local some_x_app" ... but I had a couple of questions about this
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07:39<bremner>detly: ask your questions and maybe someone will answer them.
07:39<detly>sorry, I got distracted :P
07:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 400] by debhelper
07:40<detly>anyway, I notice that sometimes after closing an app launched like this, the ssh session is still going (ie. I'm not returned to the local prompt)... I haven't really noticed a pattern for which apps do it and don't do it, but what might be causing this?
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07:43<detly>the same apps launched from a local terminal never do it
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07:49<detly>and my other question is whether there exists a "standalone" version of something like the GNOME applications menu
07:50<detly>so I can launch *that* over ssh+X instead of firing up a terminal every time
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08:19<twb>In debconf's readline UI, is it possible to go [Back] to the previous question?
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09:13<huanghuquan>110
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09:14<huanghuquan>这是什么回事啊
09:14<locklace>!cn
09:14<dpkg>hmm... cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
09:14<jmm_>!mars
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09:19<twb>jmm_: probably the packets are timing out
09:20<jmm_>:)
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09:51<fenix>hallo
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10:05<dennis-p>can I use a direct install CD to install only the kernel from the CD? How can it be done. My current kernel is unbootable but the rest of the debian system is just fine.
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10:09<jmm_>dennis-p: you can just boot from CD then reinstall linux-image .
10:10<jmm_>at the boot prompt, just add root=/dev/your_slash_partition
10:10<dennis-p>cool, where is this procedure described?
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10:12<twb>jmm_: wouldn't you more easily just add "rescue" to d-i's boot prompt?
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10:14<jmm_>twb: you're right, trough my way works with others live CD :)
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10:15<twb>Only if there's enough in the ramdisk to boot, or you happen to get the same kernel ABI
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10:16<dennis-p>oh, but rescue didn't work last time
10:17<jmm_>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch08s07.html.en
10:17<jmm_>here is the doc about the rescue stuff.
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11:20<sandru>Ola
11:21<Meiko>hola
11:21<Meiko>jajajaja
11:21<sandru>Hola mari
11:22<sandru>Hola
11:22<locklace>!es-social
11:22<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
11:22<Meiko>Holaaaa
11:22<Meiko>y no me llmo mari
11:22<Meiko>Me llamo Meiko
11:22<Meiko>x3
11:22<locklace>Meiko: habla ingles o salte
11:22<sandru>Xk?
11:23<Meiko>zas een todaa la boca
11:23<Meiko>xddddd
11:23<Meiko>porke?
11:23<sandru>Yo soy argentina asabes vos?
11:23<Meiko>xk ay k ablar en ingles
11:23<sandru>Y te vas a comer un moco
11:23<sandru>Oks
11:23<Meiko>o una mierda
11:23<Meiko>xdddd
11:23<sandru>Hey eat tu mokina
11:24<locklace>!bomb spain
11:24*dpkg drops a humongous exploding turd on spain
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11:24<sandru>O my good
11:24<cthuluh>!bomb argentina too
11:24*dpkg drops a humongous exploding turd on argentina too
11:24<Meiko>Stupids!
11:24<Meiko>xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
11:24<sandru>You imbecil
11:24<sandru>xDD
11:24<Meiko>xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
11:24<locklace>!ops spanish fail
11:24<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: locklace complains about: spanish fail
11:24<sandru>Desing of the cats elefhent
11:24<Meiko>PENOSO
11:24-!-mode/#debian [+o Myon] by ChanServ
11:24<Meiko>xD
11:24-!-mode/#debian [+q-o Meiko!*@* Myon] by Myon
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11:25<sandru>Food
11:25-!-mode/#debian [+o Myon] by ChanServ
11:25<sandru>O my good
11:25<rluces>quiero modificar el sistema de instalcion de debian. quien puede orientarme?
11:25-!-mode/#debian [+q-o sandru!*@* Myon] by Myon
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11:25<locklace>!es rluces
11:25<dpkg>rluces: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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11:38<wulph>Well, this is interesting. Xorg -configure is segfaulting for me. Looks to be related to vmware_drv.so.
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11:47<cthuluh>wulph: get rid of xserver-xorg-video-vmware. it is installed by default and is almost always useless
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11:51<wulph>Something seems questionable about its inclusion, then. Or at least, it seems odd that the vmware driver can crash it like that. Removing the driver worked. Thanks.
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11:54<jordanm>wulph: been a problem for quite a while
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12:03<jinvin>hi
12:03<jinvin>anyone there
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12:03<jinvin>hello
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12:08<jspiros_>I keep getting this error: post-installation script returned error exit status 10
12:08<jspiros_>I'm attempting to do an upgrade
12:08<jspiros_>This happens to me almost every time I upgrade, though I'm not sure that the packages that do it are the same each time
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12:09<jspiros_>I believe it happens whenever a post-installation script calls ucf
12:09<jspiros_>How can I fix this?
12:10<jspiros_>Is this a known problem?
12:10<jordanm>jspiros_: upgrade to a new release?
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12:10<jspiros_>jordanm: dist-upgrade, but not to a new release
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12:11<jordanm>jspiros_: what release do you run?
12:11<jspiros_>jordanm: I don't remember when this started, it may have been a release upgrade when it started
12:11<jspiros_>jordanm: I currently track testing
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12:11<jordanm>jspiros_: pastebin the full output of the failure
12:12<piksu>Hi guys
12:12<piksu>I was thinking of making my IBM NetVista pc to a machine that runs certain bots
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12:12<piksu>Java bots
12:12<jspiros_>jordanm: https://gist.github.com/47591b449d4076aa6370
12:13<piksu>Is debian for me?
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12:13<jordanm>jspiros_: why do you think its ucf related?
12:14<jspiros_>jordanm: but that doesn't tell you much, if I go and edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-php5filter.postinst, and comment out the line that calls ucf, it succeeds
12:14<jordanm>!tell piksu about why debian
12:14<fueL\\>hey guys, I have a production server that was taken down for a reboot this morning and it forced an fsck which is taking forever to run because of the amount of data. Is there any ways to cancel it and get it to reboot without doing the fsck again? It was cleanly shut down. I'm thinking of just hitting ctrl-c and adding fastboot to the line in grub
12:14<jspiros_>jordanm: I haven't done it yet this time, but this happened in the past and that always fixes it. it's always ucf exiting with status code 10
12:14<jordanm>jspiros_: what is your current ucf version?
12:14<jordanm>,versions libapache2-mod-php5filter
12:15<judd>libapache2-mod-php5filter -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; sid: 5.3.2-1; squeeze: 5.3.2-1
12:15<jspiros_>jordanm: 3.0025
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12:16<piksu>jordanm: thanks for telling me that. I've got a problem recognizing my cpu, or what installation I should use
12:16<piksu>Also my pc doesn't want to boot from usb flash drive. What could be wrong?
12:17<jordanm>,versions ucf
12:17<judd>ucf -- etch: 2.0020; lenny: 3.0016; sid: 3.0025; squeeze: 3.0025
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12:18<jordanm>piksu: i386\
12:18<jordanm>piksu: i386
12:19<jordanm>jspiros_: paste the results of: ucf /usr/share/php5/php.ini-production /etc/php5/apache2filter/php.ini
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12:20<jspiros_>jordanm: https://gist.github.com/c4f1576a01d4b9d7905d
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12:21<jordanm>jspiros_: add "set -x" under the shebang line of /usr/bin/ucf, try again, paste the output
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12:22<jspiros_>jordanm: should I change the set -e
12:22<jspiros_>jordanm: or add set -x above it
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12:23<jordanm>jspiros_: add set -x
12:24<jspiros_>jordanm: https://gist.github.com/120889b36360c5cb9152
12:25<jordanm>,file ucf.templates
12:25<judd>No packages were found with that file.
12:25<jordanm>,file ucf.templates --release squeeze
12:25<judd>No packages were found with that file.
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12:28<jordanm>jspiros_: you are missing a file, give me a min to figure out what generates it
12:28<jspiros_>jordanm: thanks :)
12:30<jordanm>jspiros_: try: dpkg-reconfigure ucf
12:31<jordanm>you can remove set -x from the file
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12:33<jspiros_>jordanm: didn't work
12:33<jspiros_>jordanm: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ucf.templates doesn't exist still
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12:35<jordanm>jspiros_: alright, let me throw a copy up where you can download it
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12:37<jordanm>jspiros_: http://linuxgen.com/debian/ucf.templates drop that in and see if it works
12:38<jspiros_>jordanm: It looks like it's working now
12:38<jspiros_>jordanm: thanks, yeah, it's working
12:38<jspiros_>jordanm: any idea what happened?
12:38<jordanm>jspiros_: nice! would have been better if I figured out how to regenerate the file...
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12:39<jordanm>jspiros_: no, not really... either the file was manually deleted or the generation of the file failed, and it installed the package anyways
12:39<jordanm>jspiros_: if it were the latter case, a bug report would be needed, but won't be much good unless it can be reproduced
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12:44<jordanm>jspiros_: mac dev, aye?
12:44<jspiros_>jordanm: among other things, yeah
12:47<piksu>jordanm: thank you
12:47<piksu>Well, I can't still boot debian. :i
12:48<piksu>http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/
12:48<jordanm>piksu: uhh, were you referring to the really old ones that ran os/2?
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12:48<piksu>What do you mean? Im sorry about my english. :\
12:48<piksu>Does that link lead me to a right way?
12:48<jordanm>piksu: is the PC older than 15 years?
12:48<piksu>No. Just like 8 years or something
12:49<piksu>Or 7
12:49<piksu>No no, might be just like 6
12:49<piksu>But well, what do I do now? Theres just bunch of files
12:49<piksu>Im not sure how to make all that to bootable usb or cd
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12:51<seanius>piksu: are you makinga bootable usb image?
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12:53<jordanm>piksu: sorry, I didn't check out your link, you probably want: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/i386/iso-cd/
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12:53<jordanm>piksu: get debian-505-i386-netinst.iso if you have a network connection during the installation, otherwise, only cd1
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12:55<piksu>seanius: i am trying to, but my pc doesn't regocnize usb as bootable device
12:55<piksu>jordanm: I downloaded that
12:56<jordanm>piksu: well, then you can't boot with a USB stick, use a cd
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12:57<seanius>does it not recognize *your* usb disk as a bootable device or does it not have an option to boot off of usb at all?
12:57<seanius>but anyway, booting off a cd is much easier if you have a cd drive
12:58<jordanm>6-8yrs old, there is a good chance it doesn't support usb boot
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12:59<mariusk90>java-de
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13:03<jerry>How do you stop and restart apache 2 on debian lenny ?
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13:04<jerry>I have looked on the internet and none of the commands I've found work work
13:04<bartm>jerry: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop && /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
13:04<jordanm>jerry: apache2ctl
13:04<seanius>jerry: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
13:05*jordanm hasn't called init scripts directly since he read a bug report about init scripts failing due to unclean user environment
13:05*seanius generally doesn't tweak root's environment if it can be helped
13:06<jerry>Thanks I'll give those a shot one more question super user or root?
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13:06<jerry>I'm still don't know much about command line work.
13:08<bartm>jerry: superuser==root
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13:09<jerry>Thanks I kinda thought so but so many of being trapped by windows
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13:13<jerry>bartm I had found /etc/init.d/apache stop on the net and tried it I even thought about it being apache 2 but didn't try adding the 2 to it. Thanks again.
13:14<jordanm>jerry: tab completion is your friend
13:15<kop>jerry: Check out the grounding factoid to follow for useful docs.
13:15<kop>!grounding
13:15<dpkg>Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. Ask me about <ig>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference)
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13:17<calum>hello, I am installing (compiling from source) wine 1.1.38 on Lenny. I get a configure error saying WARNING: OpenGL development headers not found, which package do I need for this?
13:17<jordanm>,versions wine
13:17<judd>wine -- etch: 0.9.25-2.1; etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3; squeeze: 1.0.1-3; experimental: 1.1.24-2
13:18<calum>I'm installing wine 1.1.38 for a specific game
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13:18<xikc>root=utheowner,[users=others]
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13:19<jordanm>calum: well, the opengl dev files seem to be broken down to per-language
13:19<xikc>thedonotuserootisobsolete
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13:19<calum>jordanm:What exactly do you mean? Are they not in the repositories any more?
13:20<xikc>on mac if u drag and drop everything to the trash and make it delete, its up to you, you've done it
13:20<seanius>calum: i'd guess the mesa dev files would probably do the trick
13:20<jerry>kop Sorry when I try read the debain manuals my mind gets numb. can you recommend something (beside going back to window)?
13:20<calum>seanius:Thanks. I will see if I have them installed
13:20<jordanm>calum: aptitude search openl
13:21<jordanm>opengl..
13:21<seanius>libgl1-mesa-dev tha tis
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13:21<jordanm>jerry: hire someone to admin your apache server?
13:21<seanius>calum: otherwise you could poke around in the configure script and see what file it's looking for in that test and hunt it down
13:21*jordanm holds up a sysadmin for hire sign
13:22<seanius>"will work for beer"
13:22*jordanm doesn't drink
13:22<xikc>will work for free
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13:22<calum>aptitude search opengl returns libqt4-opengl, libqt4-opengl-dev and python-opengl
13:22<jerry>want to learn myself
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13:23<calum>what exactly is QT4?
13:24<xikc>some layer like gtk .. may be 100
13:24<bartm>dpkg: what is qt4
13:24<dpkg>Qt is a cross-platform toolkit developed by TrollTech Inc, that works across UNIX (X11), Windows, and Mac. To compile packages (mainly KDE) using it on Debian, try: --prefix=/usr --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 . Now a Nokia product. http://www.qtsoftware.com/ #qt on irc.freenode.net.
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13:24<calum>ah thanks
13:24<jhutchins_lt>jerry: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
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13:26<seanius>calum: one thing you could try is adding a deb-src line to your sources.list file and then run apt-get build-dep wine
13:26<seanius>in case there's other stuff
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13:28<calum>seanius: I installed the mesa-dev files. I will see what it says at the moment, thanks for your help
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13:28<jerry>jhutchins_lt Thanks I'll try to wrap my mind around that.
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13:31<calum>seanius:Thanks for that, it eliminated the OpenGL and Direct3D warnings
13:33<calum>I'll install the last few, thanks for the help people
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13:54<wulph>From what I've read, it sounds like xrandr is supposed to take the place of xinerama, but it currently doesn't work across multiple devices. So if I'm setting up a multi-head setup with multiple video cards, I still need xinerama?
13:55<jordanm>I was under the impression xrandr does work accross multiple devices
13:55<jordanm>I use nvidia's twinview though
13:59<wulph>Hmm. Both cards are ATI. On squeeze, without xinerama, it spawns two copies of the gnome panels and I can't drag windows between devices.
14:00<jordanm> wulph if xinerama works, I would stick with it
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14:00<wulph>(This is with the radeon driver. With radeonhd, X won't start and complains about kernel modesetting.
14:01<jordanm>wulph: you don't need radeonhd for 3d, the radeon driver is capable
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14:01<wulph>Well, I haven't found the right magic for everything to be happy with xinerama, either. The primary card is dual headed, and with xinerama enabled, I can't seem to get it to do anything but clone both monitors.
14:02<wulph>But that leaves me with the cloned monitors on the first card, and another display on the other card.
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14:03<wulph>I think I probably just need to figure out how to get the first card's config happy, but most of the search results I'm finding seem to be based on xrandr. Bleh.
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14:07<wulph>To clarify, the cross-card interaction appears to be correct with xinerama enabled, but the single card multi-head part goes out the window. Oh, what a burden it is to have three monitors. =P
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14:28<orson>any way to get flashplayer working on 64bit?
14:28<bartm>orson: yes, http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
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14:31<dutchfish>hi, according to the kernel-handbook on alioth i should be able to rebuild a debian kernel (section 4.2) with fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_i386_none_686, how to customize .config options in that procedure (after a[;ying patches series and my own set of patches) ?
14:31<simonrvn>make oldconfig; make menuconfig; depending on taste/want
14:32<dutchfish>simonrvn: it didnt work out the .config was still generate dby rules file and my own wa soverwritten
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14:32<dutchfish>simonrvn: using make-kpkg does work, but thats not what i want
14:33<dutchfish>simonrvn: i want a guinuine deb-pkg build
14:33<simonrvn>um, k-p generates .debs
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14:34<simonrvn>i don't see what's not "genuine" about that ;)
14:34<dutchfish>so does fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_i386_none_686
14:35<dutchfish>or any other arch
14:35<simonrvn>i've never done that, since before when i tried to run the rules file directly it would just exit on me.
14:35<simonrvn>seems that has changed since....
14:35<dutchfish>simonrvn: fakeroot debian/rules source does paly the rules nicely
14:35<dutchfish>s/paly/aply
14:36<dutchfish>mmm...
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14:36<dutchfish>Starting from version 2.6.32-6, the source package includes a script to simplify the process of building with extra patches.
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14:36<simonrvn>finally ;)
14:36<dutchfish>thats the road i am following
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14:37<simonrvn>it's new to me. i'd run the make *config, then cp over .config somewhere and then cp it back before the rules call, or insert it somewhere (i'm guessing, not having done this)
14:38<dutchfish>actually, wild gues, how to tweak the .config generation?
14:38<mercutio22>Are the people using squeeze having trouble with empathy/pidgin frequently disconnectin from msn/yahoo/aim?
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14:38<mercutio22>icq...
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14:38<simonrvn>i imagine editing debian/rules
14:39<dutchfish>simonrvn: nope the rules are fine, the config parts arent, at least not for my purpose
14:39<dutchfish>i was hoping for some sort of rtfm ;)
14:40<JackL>Hy... anyone here had success when installing Debian on a server with Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller?
14:41<dutchfish>mercutio22: i dont know if that helps much but my mailcheck sometimes barfs with a broken connection to google mail on squeeze
14:42<dutchfish>simonrvn: i will figure it out in the end ... thanks
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14:43<jordanm>JackL: are you having trouble?
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14:46<simonrvn>dutchfish: edit the bits that f*** around with .config ;p. np. have fun buddy
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14:47<dutchfish>simonrvn: thanks
14:48<JackL>jordanm, I can not install. Debian does not recognize the controller SATA!
14:48<mercutio22>dutchfish: Do you use any other protocols? gtalk is the one thing that is not crashing here
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14:49<dutchfish>mercutio22: not really except for irc, but irssi never disconnects
14:50<dutchfish>mercutio22: hint: it might be related to lan driver, i have seen that happening sometimes
14:50<mercutio22>dutchfish: yeah.. irssi is awesome.. the problem here seems to be telepathy-haze. The telepathy people blamed libpurple people
14:50<dutchfish>mercutio22: blaming doesnt help much, but logs do
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14:51<mercutio22>dutchfish: yeah... they analysed a backtrace collected form my machine. I wonder way no one else is complaining about it though
14:51<ndn>HHH
14:51<mercutio22>*why
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14:52<ndn>hai
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14:53<mercutio22>Is it possible for me to downgrade libpurple to lenny's version?
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14:53<JackL>jordanm: I can not install. Debian does not recognize the controller SATA!
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14:54<JackL>Jordanm: HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller
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14:56<dutchfish>mercutio22: i gues not if you are fully on squeeze, i wont recommend it either, instead, file a bug report if it hasnt being done already, inclsude your strace and logs
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14:56<qq->JackL, what about asking HP to get the driver for linux for that things ? checked his site ?
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14:57<dutchfish>mercutio22: but first double check your net-connection and if your lan adapter is workig properly
14:57<mercutio22>dutchfish: yeah... I need to figure out how to fix my mta so reportbug sends my repots approriately
14:57<dutchfish>mercutio22: huh?
14:57<mercutio22>dutchfish: I am sure it is.
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15:00<JackL>qq: Officially there is only support for Suse and Redhat. And yet after installation!
15:01<qq->JackL, take the sources and do a module for your kernel
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15:03<JackL>qq: This. This seems the only solution!
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15:05<qq->JackL, that's so when we use semi-close drives
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15:06<qq->JackL, this machine has a cdrom ?
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15:09<JackL>qq: Yes, thins chine has cdrom! But I'm using an external (SATA)
15:10<qq->look at it , usually they use an IDE controller for it , add an IDE hard disk to it, and install on it. later you fix your kernel to support your RAID Controller
15:11<qq->s/ you/ you'll
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15:13<JackL>qq: In fact the machine has no IDE driver. unfortunately!
15:14<qq->check it again
15:14<JackL>qq: But I think I've found a solution: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
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15:14<qq->try and see ;)
15:15<JackL>qq: Yes Sr. ;-)
15:15<qq->(but i doubt)
15:15<qq->i meant about RAID controller ..
15:16<JackL>qq: I heard reports of success ... I test
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15:17<JackL>qq: Thanks for the help
15:17<qq->JackL, feedbacks are welcome. np
15:19<JackL>qq: yes of course ;-)
15:19<qq->thanks
15:20<JackL>qq: thanks you!
15:20<qq->JackL, good luck ;)
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15:50<mohsen>hi,i have a problem with my dsl modem by usb ports,who can help me?
15:51<bartm>mohsen: can you describe the problem?
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15:53<mohsen>yeh,i use my modem very correctly,when i changed my ip with ifconfig this don`t work correctly
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15:56<mohsen>do you know i have a asus am602,when i turned on my modem it connect to net but now it did n`t work,when i ping with my gateway it reply:connect: Network is unreachable
15:57<mohsen>bartm:how can i repair that?
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15:58<bartm>mohsen: are you familiar with configuring a network device to get an ip address via dhcp ?
15:58<mohsen>bartm:yeh
15:59<bartm>mohsen: did you get an ip address from the dhcp server?
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16:00<mohsen>bartm: my modem is a router and it has dhcp server.
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16:05<mohsen>bartm:are you online?
16:06<bartm>mohsen: my laptop is
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16:09<mohsen>your don`t have battery
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16:16<johnfg>hi guys
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16:26<sfyn>mvc: thanks
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16:35<sfyn>!pi pause
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16:38<legostrat>Hey
16:38<legostrat>For some reason, my ethernet isn't working
16:38<legostrat>it says up in the corner, "device not managed"
16:40<EmleyMoor>legostrat: That usually means you've got it set up in /etc/network/interfaces
16:40<legostrat>huh
16:40<legostrat>how do I fix it?
16:40<EmleyMoor>What exactly seems to be wrong with it?
16:41<legostrat>Well, if I plug in an ethernet cable, it doesn't connect
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16:42<legostrat>when I click on edit connections, it doesn't list any connection under the ethernet panel
16:42<qq->legostrat, why don't with that cable , just said that few days ago ?
16:42<EmleyMoor>OK - well, put your /etc/network/interfaces in a pastebin - or remove the relevant interface from it
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16:43<qq->, why don't boot*
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16:44<legostrat>EmleyMoor: you want me to put the contents into a pastebin and post it here?
16:44<qq->legostrat, you turned that thing in a "troll method" ..
16:44<legostrat>What do you mean?
16:45<EmleyMoor>legostrat: You could try that... that way I can see it
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16:45<legostrat>http://pastebin.com/j5LAn4q7
16:46<EmleyMoor>legostrat: Hmmm... that looks OK
16:47<legostrat>Yeah, it's strange because I was able to connect during installation
16:47<EmleyMoor>legostrat: What have you changed since
16:47<EmleyMoor>?
16:47<legostrat>I don't think I've changed anything...
16:47<legostrat>Not intentionally, that is.
16:48<legostrat>I installed a couple of programs, but that's about it.
16:48<bartm>legostrat: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
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16:48<jhutchins_lt>possibly restart networking.
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16:49<legostrat>bartm: running it now.
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16:50<legostrat>Okay, it's done.
16:50<legostrat>Should I have the cable plugged in during that command?
16:50<legostrat>(Probably should have asked before I ran it...)
16:50<EmleyMoor>legostrat: Shouldn't matter
16:50<bartm>legostrat: in, yes
16:50<legostrat>Okay
16:50<EmleyMoor>In is good though
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16:52<Powerslave>hi
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16:52<legostrat>Okay, ran it again with it plugged in
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16:53<legostrat>Seems to have worked, that is, it didn't come back with the message "No DHCPOFFERS recieved"
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16:53<bartm>legostrat: did you get an ip address from the dhcp server?
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16:54<legostrat>bound to 192.168.1.101 -- renewal in 37311 seconds. -- I believe that is an affirmative.
16:54<bartm>cool, solved
16:54<legostrat>But it still says that the device is unmanaged up in the networkmanagera applet
16:55<EmleyMoor>legostrat: It will be
16:55<legostrat>Huh
16:55<legostrat>Okay
16:55<EmleyMoor>It's managed through /etc/network/interfaces, not the network-manager applet
16:55<jhutchins_lt>Network Manager is intended for managing dynamic interfaces like mobile wireless where you connect to various different AP's.
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16:57<jhutchins_lt>You can use it for wired connections too, but that's not as common, as wired connections tend to be fixed.
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17:07<stuckey>judd: versions firefox
17:07<judd>firefox -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1
17:07<stuckey>judd: versions iceweasel
17:07<judd>iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.10-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.10-1; squeeze: 3.5.10-1; experimental: 3.6.4-1
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17:36<jla>I'm considering an Intel S3210SHLX mb, but I wan't to avoid getting bitten by drivers not yet supported in 5.0/lenny like I did when trying to install 4.0/etch on an Intel DG965RY. Are there better sites to check than kmuto.jp and others listed on linux-drivers.org. Ideally I'd like to use the mb model or chipset models and find some supported/unsupported/requires kernel > x.x.x list.
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17:54<legostrat>Hey
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17:55<legostrat>how do you change themes on gdm3?
17:56<legostrat>it says in the description, that you can install themes
17:56<legostrat>"even to the extent of supporting themes!"
17:56<muep>you'd need compatible themes for it, at least
17:57<legostrat>Mmhmmm
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17:57<legostrat>assuming I have themes that are compatible, how would I go about installing one?
17:57<muep>no idea
17:58<muep>but AFAIK the themes for legacy GDM will not work with the recent versions
17:59<legostrat>Hmm
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17:59<legostrat>Okay
17:59<legostrat>thanks.
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18:58<pavi-eee>has anyone used moblin packages on unstable ?
18:58<pavi-eee>!dpkg moblin
18:58<dpkg>Moblin (Mobile Linux) is a distribution and application stack for netbooks, nettops, Mobile Internet Devices and embedded systems. The Moblin 2 distribution is based on <Fedora> and is not supported in #debian. http://moblin.org/ #moblin on irc.freenode.net.
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20:07<legostrat>hey
20:07<legostrat>How can I be sure my graphics drivers are installed?
20:07<legostrat>I'm on a macbook with the intel gma 945gm integrated card
20:08<legostrat>VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
20:09<legostrat>That's what lspci says
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20:10<legostrat>brb
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20:16<jordanm>legostrat: installed? dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-intel
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20:27<legostrat>back
20:27<dr|z3d>!congratulate legostrat
20:27<dpkg>Nice one legostrat, you did it!
20:27<legostrat>haha
20:27<legostrat>YES.
20:28<legostrat>Jordanm: that command produces this:
20:28<legostrat>ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-4 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
20:28<dr|z3d>That's a sure sign you've got your driver installed.
20:28<legostrat>lol
20:28<legostrat>okay
20:29<legostrat>another question
20:29<dr|z3d>Run some OpenGL stuff.. that's a good way to test.
20:29<legostrat>Oh, what programs use opengl?
20:30<dr|z3d>Screensavers, for example.
20:30<legostrat>Oh
20:30<legostrat>Okay.
20:30<dr|z3d>The difference between software and hardware acceleration is obvious.
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20:31<legostrat>alrighty, it worked.
20:31<jordanm>grep -i 'intel' /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be a better test if the driver is being used
20:31<jordanm>or looking at the whole thing
20:31<legostrat>The screensavers looked good.
20:31<dr|z3d>Great.
20:31<jordanm>glxgears is the standard benchmarks
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20:32<dr|z3d>Yup, but that's less impressive.
20:32<dr|z3d>The cogs go roundm you see a framerate, but you don't really get a visual sense of hardware acceleration.
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20:32<legostrat>Impressiveness is what counts ;-)
20:32<dr|z3d>Precisely :)
20:33<legostrat>alrighty, I'll be back later... I have a few more questions..
20:33<legostrat>thanks
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20:34<dr|z3d>jordanm: You're right, of course, re grapping for driver strings, but kids these days want to see raw naked 3d'ness ;)
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20:35<jordanm>dr|z3d: I wouldn't expect the people wanting to see raw naked 3d'ness to be using xserver-xorg-video-intel :)
20:35<jordanm>dr|z3d: more like... nvidia-glx
20:35<dr|z3d>jordanm: :) some times you have to work with wotcha got!
20:35<xikc>can vmware accelerate ati 3k graphics on amd64 ?
20:36<dr|z3d>xikc: Nfi.
20:36<xikc>nfi like w[ho]c[ares] or o[ff]t[opic] ?
20:36<xikc>and nv
20:37<dr|z3d>xikc: The latter, sure. And nfi like nfi. ;)
20:37<xikc>nfinite.. kk np
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20:37<dr|z3d>Suck it and see ;)
20:37<xikc>will do
20:37<xikc>[ gotta run OS X and have c4d]
20:38*jordanm hasn't understood any of this dr|z3d and xikc converstation....
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20:38<xikc>np
20:38<xikc>weleetaround
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20:39<xikc>mmlemmepasteonesinglelinelongpasteandilleom[sg]
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20:40<xikc>iplzpissonmypsymedstheybreakme,imsince3.xdaysw/oemandifeelasgoodaspossible
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20:41<xikc>[nospaceforborgandotherstounderstand[parse
20:41<xikc>igottobegodbeforepsy
20:41*dr|z3d sparks up.
20:41<xikc>ohwtfufeedmenotneed
20:41<xikc>wheretellmedouknowitakemeds
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21:15<kierke>hi. can't startx being normal user after rm -rf /tmp. what should i do?
21:17<dondelelcaro>kierke: probably blew away /tmp/.X11-unix; run /etc/init.d/x11-common start; as root
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21:19<kierke>ok. will try now. thanks.
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21:23<juan_>Hi, I have a question, How do I access 'root' account in order to change some move some 'usr' folders and files?
21:24<dr|z3d>juan_: su
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21:24<bremner>juan_: if you have to ask, maybe you shouldn't
21:24<dr|z3d>Or if you have sudo installed, sudo su will give you a root terminal. Whatever suits.
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21:24<dr|z3d>bremner: Be nice. ;P
21:24<bremner>juan_: moving files under /usr can severely damage your operating system
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21:25<juan_>basically I only need to move 'scim' and 'skim' folders in there
21:26<bremner>juan_: aren't those managed by the package system?
21:26<juan_>hmmm
21:26<juan_>how can i add those folders in the package manager?
21:27<juan_>thing is i need to build those
21:27<dr|z3d>juan_: What's wrong with installing from the repos?
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21:27<dr|z3d>That's always advised if the packages are available.
21:27<bremner>or installing in /usr/local if you want to build from source
21:28<juan_>yea
21:28<juan_> that what i have to do
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21:28<juan_>build from sources
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21:29<juan_>so how do i install them to /usr/local/ ?
21:30<bremner>is there a configure script? then ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
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21:30<bremner>juan_: but really these are questions for the author of your software
21:30<juan_>hmm
21:31<juan_> can you look that this
21:31<juan_>http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/~taro/comp/res/debian/JapaneseEnvironment.html
21:31<juan_>thats what I'm trying to do
21:31<bremner>Debian sarge?
21:31<bremner>are you really running sarge?
21:31<juan_>yea
21:31<juan_>nop
21:31<juan_> Lenny
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21:32<bremner>so that page is wrong for you.
21:32<bremner>I have to go, but maybe you should ask something along the lines of "how do I make japanese work on Lenny"
21:32<juan_>can you recommend a page that can make a Japanese Enviroment
21:32<kierke>hmm.. this message when startx as normal user... FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing
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21:33<juan_>Thanks bremner
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21:36<allan`>good morning!
21:38<dvs>bah
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21:40<juan_>New and better question, How do i Make Japanese work on Lenny?
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21:51<dr|z3d>juan_: Install wosname. scim or whatever.
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21:55<juan_>@dr|z3d wosname. scim?? is that its name?
21:55<dr|z3d>juan_: apt-cache search scim
21:56<juan_>ok I'll try it!
21:59<juan_>I have anthy, which was the one i installed
22:00<juan_>question how would i make it switch between Japanese and English character input?
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22:13<ansgar>juan_: Usually one of Ctrl-Space, Shift-Space, Meta-Space, Ctrl-Shit-Space (I don't know which one does by default).
22:15<juan_>can that be done with anthy installed or do i need any other package installed too?
22:15<allan`>dr|z3d : i tried to set a permission to my home using chown o-x so that my user who have root privillege cannot view my files
22:16<allan`>but when i check a test user with root privillege, i can still access my home
22:16<dr|z3d>allan`: any user with root privs will be able to see your files.. that's the way it works.
22:16<allan`>ok thanks
22:16<dr|z3d>root = keys to the house.
22:16<ansgar>juan_: I think anthy is just the backend. I use ibus-anthy for inupt, but that is only available in testing/unstable.
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22:17<juan_>Hmm
22:17<allan`>dr|z3d been looking some commands in google but i cant find the command on how to disable the "who" o "w" who's connected to the box
22:17<ansgar>juan_: There is scim-anthy and uim-anthy as well. Also im-switch should make it easier to setup X to use the input method.
22:17<juan_>so at the moment there are no other??
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22:17<allan`>is it possible to disable the who?
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22:18<ansgar>juan_: http://wiki.debian.org/JapaneseEnvironmentE (or http://wiki.debian.org/JapaneseEnvironment for the Japanese version)
22:18<dr|z3d>aptitude uninstall who perhaps, allan`.
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22:19<dr|z3d>who or whois or whatever the package is.
22:19<allan`>dr|z3d and to enable, just aptitude install who?
22:19<juan_>I'll try it out and Thanks for the reference!
22:19<dr|z3d>Sure.. just reinstall the package.
22:20<dr|z3d>As for hiding your files, you can encrypt your home dir.
22:20<dr|z3d>That's one way to keep others away.
22:20<dr|z3d>Or use something like truecrypt.
22:20<ansgar>allan`: Disabling who is pretty useless. Users can see the processes (and users) with "ps ax" anyway...
22:21<allan`>ansgar yeah i notice that one
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22:22<allan`>dr|z3d ansgar thanks.good morning
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22:23<allan`>ill try luks
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22:27<legostrat>Hey
22:28<legostrat>so, I've installed compiz and none of the various things work.
22:29<legostrat>like, I launch the compizconfig settings manager, and when choosing one of the things, like the application switcher, I set the correct hotkey, and it doesn't work.
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22:30<legostrat>Is there a reason it's not working?
22:31<legostrat>does compiz not work on squeeze?
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22:31<dr|z3d>,versions compiz
22:31<judd>compiz -- etch: 0.2.2-1; etch-backports: 0.5.2-2~bpo40+1; lenny: 0.7.6-7; sid: 0.8.4-4; squeeze: 0.8.4-4
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22:32<legostrat>?
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22:36<legostrat>oh, nvm
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22:38<allan`>dr|z3d : found some tutorials but its ubuntu site. does this work also? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1449168
22:38<allan`>even if i have a root use privillege, can user stil laccess it?
22:39<dr|z3d>allan`: Access what, sorry?
22:41<dr|z3d>If you want absolute security, use truecrypt.
22:41<allan`>exampl: allan has root privillige and dr|z3d has root priv too.if i do the steps of the site above ^^ to allan home, can dr|z3d still access allan's home?
22:41<allan`>oh ok
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22:42<dr|z3d>enceypting your homedir requires _your_ password to unlock, so another user with root privs won't be able to directly access your files, but they will be able to change your password....
22:42<allan`>this one is so complicated http://blog.larsstrand.org/article.php?story=EncryptedSwapAndHomeUbuntu
22:42<dr|z3d>Go with truecrypt. Seriously. Best advice.
22:42<allan`>i just want my home to encrypt not swap and etc.
22:42<allan`>ok
22:42<allan`>googling
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22:43<dr|z3d>,versions truecrypt
22:43<judd>Sorry, no package named 'truecrypt' was found.
22:43<allan`>yeah same here
22:43<dr|z3d>,versions easycrypt
22:43<judd>Sorry, no package named 'easycrypt' was found.
22:43<dr|z3d>Pfft.
22:43<allan`>o candidate version found for truecrypt
22:43<allan`>No candidate version found for truecrypt
22:44<dr|z3d>You may have to download a .deb
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22:48<allan`>judd found one http://www.howtoforge.com/truecrypt_data_encryption
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22:48<allan`>lets start
22:48<allan`>hehe
22:52<ansgar>allan`: There is also ecryptfs in Debian.
22:53<ansgar>allan`: Or cryptsetup/dm-crypt. Bot are fully supported in Debian itself.
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23:01<allan`>ansgar thanks.done installing truecrypt
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23:03<allan`>i installed a command line
23:03<allan`>no gui for this?
23:03<allan`>i dont see gui on their site
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23:15<frage>I'm having troubles with iptables. Can I ask help?
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23:20<dbldutch>!ask
23:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
23:23<frage>Ok, thanks. [Debian-5.0.5 Linux Dragon 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue Jun 1 04:59:47 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux]
23:23<frage>I'm having troubles redirecting the PostgreSQL traffic from the local machine to another on the LAN.
23:24<frage>I need just to redirect the traffic directed towards 127.0.0.1:5432 to 192.168.1.113:5432.
23:25<frage>Any idea on how to do that?
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