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---Logopened Sat Jul 10 00:00:25 2010
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00:02<freezer>hi
00:02<freezer>can i force xorg/radeon to 1680x1050 resolution?
00:02<freezer>xrandr only lists 1600x1200
00:02<freezer>and some smaller ones
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00:05<chealer>freezer: you're using xserver-xorg-video-radeon?
00:06<freezer>yes
00:06<chealer>freezer: I don't think I can help, but which card and Debian suite do you use?
00:07<freezer>current stable with Radeon Mobility M6
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00:08<Beryllium>Frustrating problem that I suspect has an easy fix/correction: I can't have more than one audio output source
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00:09<Beryllium>When I have chrome open and playing something, skype complains about an unavailable audio device
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00:16<chealer>freezer: so you're using a 1680x1050 screen on a 9 years old video card? are you sure the card supports that resolution?
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00:17<moldovean> 1600x1200 is 4
00:18<freezer>it does support 1280x800 (16:10)
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00:18<freezer>and 1600x1200 are even more pixels
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00:19<freezer>maybe i get a copy of windows XP and see if it works there
00:22<moldovean>freezer, 1600x1200 is 4:3 ratio (old standard ), and 1680x1050 is 16:9
00:22<moldovean>not same thing
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00:22<moldovean>what's your monitor ?
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00:23<freezer>1680:1050 is 16:10.
00:23<moldovean>even ..
00:24<freezer>http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfo/peripherals/monitor_2208wfp/pd.aspx?refid=monitor_2208wfp&s=dfo
00:24<freezer>Dell 2208WFP, and as i said, it does 1280x800
00:25<jmpc>Hi guys. I have a squeeze i686. How can change to squeeze amd64? (i'm now running the amd64 kernel, but need 64bit compiled applications)
00:25<nutron>gdb sorry to respond so late, but thanks, that helps
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00:26<moldovean>freezer, so force xorg/radeon to 1680x1050 is a bad think , very bad
00:26<gdb>nutron: Absolutely!
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00:26<freezer>why?
00:26<moldovean>distroy monitor ?
00:27<freezer>go away.
00:27<chealer>!tell jmpc about amd64
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00:28<moldovean>freezer, read vendor warranty for that monitor
00:29<freezer>the output wont destroy the monitor
00:29<freezer>maybe out of sync
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00:29<gdb>The odds of blowing up a CRT with a bad modeline on anything made in the last 15 years is near zero.
00:29<freezer>its a TFT
00:30<freezer>using the VGA connector
00:30<gdb>Then I'd not think it would display anything at all.
00:31*gdb really has no idea, but I don't believe it will display anything above it's native resolution, it will simply be black.
00:31<gdb>its*
00:31<freezer>if you force the radeon to 1680x1050 (native res)
00:31<freezer>it doesn't offer the native res, thats why i wan to force it
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00:32<moldovean> "it does 1280x800" means native res , even max res
00:32<gdb>freezer: I'm saying that I don't believe an LCD display will show anything at all on the screen if you try to force it above its native resolution. It has nothing to do with the videocard.
00:33<freezer>http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfo/peripherals/monitor_2208wfp/pd.aspx?refid=monitor_2208wfp&s=dfo
00:33<freezer>the native res IS 1680x1050
00:34<gdb>Ah
00:34<moldovean>well, then change the video card ..
00:35<gdb>moldovean: I think the solution he's looking for is "getting my current video card to display this resolution on my current monitor" not "throw hardware at it."
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00:37<freezer>it soldered into my laptop
00:37<moldovean>so video card doing (native) 4:3 ratio may do say 16:9 ?
00:38<freezer>it already does 16:10 just at lower res.
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00:38<freezer>So at least here, the question is can i force it to higher res
00:38<moldovean>so no ..
00:39<gdb>freezer: What sort of video card is in the laptop?
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00:39<gdb>freezer: If you know the laptop model (I assume you do) I can probably find out.
00:40<kop>gdb: lspci -nn would do the trick.
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00:40<gdb>kop: Thanks. freezer, can you run that command and tell us what you find?
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00:41<freezer>http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_7000 using the xorg radeon driver
00:41<freezer>Thinkpad X31 notebook
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00:43<gdb>Ah, well the information here indicates that the card certainly supports a much larger resolution than you're trying to drive it at. I'm guessing you've tried the xorg.conf settings suggested in that document?
00:44<freezer>yes
00:44<freezer>I also parsed my Xorg.0.log file, there are some modelines detected -- but none for 1680x1050
00:45<freezer>xrandr also lists 13 possible res. -- just not the one i need
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00:46<freezer>oh wait
00:46<freezer>it actually has some
00:47<freezer>however it doesnt give them to me as possible ones
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00:47<freezer>(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz)
00:47<freezer>(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz)
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00:54<tom_>hi i need to update apt-get with deb http://backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib
00:55<tom_>how do i do it
00:55<kop>!tell tom aout sources.list
00:55<moldovean>about*
00:55<kop>!sources.list
00:55<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
00:55<tom_>thanks
00:56<freezer>okay
00:56<freezer>i added the modeline manually at xrandr
00:58<freezer>now i get xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1600x1200 (desired size 1680x1050)
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01:01<tom_>what is name of latest kernel in lenny-backports
01:02<tom_>apt-get <what?>
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01:03<r0ger>apt-cache search linux-image
01:03<tom_>thanks roger
01:03<r0ger>np
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01:14<tom_>hi i have installed debian but it is in text mode
01:15<tom_>what packages should i install to get gui running
01:15<tom_>apt-get install <what?>
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01:15<alex_>hola
01:15<moldovean>tom_, use aptitude , needs what ? gnome ?
01:16<tom_>thanks
01:17<tom_>can i just do apt-get install gnome and it will auto install everything else?
01:18<moldovean>i said use aptitude
01:18<chealer>tom_: install the desktop task (using tasksel)
01:18<moldovean>no, aptitude install xorg gdm gnome-core iceweasel xpdf
01:19<craigevil>!install gnome
01:19<dpkg>To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome
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01:20<r0ger>moldovean: what's the advantage of aptitude over apt-get?
01:20<r0ger>i was under the assumption that they're pretty much interchangable but you should just stick with one or the other
01:20<moldovean>r0ger, /msg dpkg why aptitude
01:21<r0ger>ahh kk cool
01:21<r0ger>i guess i need to switch
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01:25<tom_>!install x
01:25<dpkg>To install X in Debian Etch or later: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>.
01:25<moldovean>tom_, /msg dpkg selftell
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01:26<tom_>thanks for your help
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01:29<alex_>hello somebody of veracruz?
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01:42<moldovean>!veracruz
01:42<dpkg>veracruz is probably channel for debian users , and promote help betweens users, read <topic> too
01:43<freezer>re
01:43<freezer>my xorg seems to crash (black screens) when i use the virtual parameter
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01:46<moldovean>paste your ... gone , monitor in fire
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01:56<boor-eat>fgjg
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01:57<freezer>ok, a virtual 1680 1050 worked
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01:58<freezer>now running native res ;)
02:01<moldovean>thanks for fixing it
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02:58<yfk>I'm apt-get upgrading and when I use Ctrl-Z to put it on the background it pops back to the foreground. why is this?
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03:04<moldovean>never upgrading in background
03:04<thermo444>I'm Sooooo excited, I've installed ubuntu, cause they are pushing the boundries, BUT later i've install debian, and as soon as i installed, knew that debian is faster and feels like it's better... Well guys just trying to say that i would like to see a debian iso with better then Ubuntu, cause I see it like that, but Ubuntu is making money with the hard work
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03:05<thermo444>of debian, so we need a unstable release that comes with the same packets of better than ubuntu...
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03:06<moldovean>thermo444, go ubuntu, not yet 'good' for debian
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03:07<moldovean>!sns
03:07<dpkg>Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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03:08<thermo444>do not think that ubuntu it's better, but they are making money of the hard work of Debian, what i mean, it would be nice to see a little iso of debian-test latest packages
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03:09<thermo444>gotchat :-) good point
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03:11<thermo444>I was talking with a friend and told them to download no other than Debian, being honest i don't see any otther distro like this one AND with the right 100% philosophy of free software
03:12<moldovean>thermo444, ok, now stop trolling , we are tired about that
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03:13<thermo444>well just to let you know guys, that i have put my lenovo t400 with debian 5, sorry if you see it like that... Just happy about this man...
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03:17<moldovean>we may talk about that when you'll have more 1000 installation as I have ..
03:18<thermo444>changing the topic, I've read about the drivers of wireless card, that they came with or are compatible and behave different dipending on the kernel version. I have an Alfa 1000mw, and in debian do not works, it's there.. out of the box, but when I try to download and connect to my router just try too much and never loads a page, and in windows works fine.
03:20<thermo444>Try to see info on the net, and only it's info in backtrack, so i don't have a clue what's the problem. i'm new in linux that's why i am excited, with debian cause i start to read about it.... But you're right...
03:20<moldovean>what lspci -nn, says about that 'Alfa' ?
03:20<thermo444>display the 8187l chip
03:22<thermo444>and i can see the card and everything, but with other distros it's the same, and to used with aircrack it's fine, to inject too, but to use it in managed mode... do not really work well
03:22<moldovean>thermo444, we need exactly something as [xxxx:yyyy]
03:23<thermo444>sorry, i have it in my house, that's why i do not give you the whole answer. But tomorrow i'll comeback with info, and the things i tried.
03:24<thermo444>if it works i'll erase windows
03:25<thermo444>thanks for the help man. see you later. And good luck
03:25<moldovean>comeback with debian machine , yes
03:25<moldovean>np
03:25<thermo444>tomorrow right now only in girlfriend windows shit machine
03:25<thermo444>bye, thanks
03:26<moldovean>cheers
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03:28<s_i_m>well, 90% of software is shit, be it open source or closed source... but with open source at least that shit is seen immediately
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03:35<linoge>that was weird :)
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03:37<s_i_m>that was a remark to "windows shit machine"
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03:38<s_i_m>open source has lot of its own shit, that we all know about but use, because there is no alternative
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03:39<linoge>Yep. And closed source is the same
03:39<s_i_m>sure.
03:39<s_i_m>it is even worse.
03:39<cahoot>and irc is full of it
03:40<linoge>Yes, at least you can try to fix open source shit, or avoid it
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04:40<dp>is there any drupal channel active now
04:40<dp>need some urgent help in drupal
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05:02<bars0>Hello everyone! I've just installed Debian lenny on my PC and I have problem with my DWA-510 D-Link wi-fi card. The transfer rate is a little bit slow ~100KB/s and my ISP provide ~450KB/s. I'm using rt61pci driver and wicd network manager. Could anyone had the same problem? Where I should go for help?
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05:03<dp>is there any drupal channel active ?
05:04<gsimmons>dp: #drupal-support on irc.freenode.net.
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05:06<s_i_m>bars0, you might try installing a newer kernel
05:06<dp>need help with drupal .. #drupal-support has no user currently
05:07<gsimmons>dp: No, not this network. The channel is on freenode.
05:08<bars0>s_i_m, my kernel is: Linux asux 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 20 20:16:30 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux. Is a newer kernel available in standard Lenny repository?
05:09<s_i_m>no, you should look into backports (http://www.backports.org/)
05:09<gsimmons>bars0: 2.6.32 is available from lenny-backports (/msg dpkg bpo). ISTR this correcting a similar transmission rate issue for another rt61pci previously.
05:10<gsimmons>s/rt61pci/rt61pci user/
05:11<bars0>gsimmons, s_i_m, thank you, I'll try to install newer kernel from backports.
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05:16<freezer>hi
05:19<s_i_m>hi
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06:41<alekibango>is it possible somehow to use boot option to tell d-i how to setup ip/netmask/gateway? i would like to install using preseed, but dhcp (not under my control) is giving me totally wrong network setup...
06:41<alekibango>... and the server is 100 miles away from me...
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07:05<WAHID>Hi all
07:05<WAHID>my name is Vahid
07:06<locklace>no it isn't
07:06<WAHID>I have a problem with debian 5.0.5 cd!
07:06<WAHID>I download iso file from debian.org
07:06<WAHID>but that is'n bootable cd!
07:06<WAHID>how can install debian?
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07:07<locklace>!install debian
07:07<dpkg>There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
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07:10<WAHID>I Download this file : d9c54cadf82b2b4c31cc04a993b69bcf debian-505-i386-CD-5.iso
07:10<WAHID>d9c54cadf82b2b4c31cc04a993b69bcf debian-505-i386-CD-5.iso
07:10<WAHID>but that's unbootable!
07:10<cahoot>WAHID: if it's 'non-bootable' chances are you burnt it wrong
07:11<locklace>why would CD-5 be bootable anyway
07:11<babilen>WAHID: Do you have a working internet connection while you install? What kind of connection?
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07:12<WAHID>babilen: yes!
07:12<babilen>WAHID: Apart from that - the CD-5 is the *fifth* CD in quite a large set of CD. Only the first one is bootable and contains the installer. The rest of the set just contains *all* packages in Debian
07:12<WAHID>babilen: ADSl 128Kb
07:12<babilen>WAHID: How to you connect? Do you use WLAN or do you have wired connection?
07:13<WAHID>babilen: cable
07:13<WAHID>babilen: use ethernet cable!
07:14<locklace>WAHID: also, when will you guys kick out ahmadinejad? do you think he'd accept a challenge to battle richard stallman in single combat
07:15<WAHID>locklace: What?
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07:15<babilen>WAHID: Great ... I would recommend the "netinstall" image in that case which contains everything needed to install the base system and everyhting else will be downloaded from the internet during the installation. This means that you will install the newest packages ..
07:15<babilen>!tell WAHID about netinstall
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07:24<WAHID>My debian cd don't have install folder! Why?
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07:28<witte>WAHID: what is the exact question? if you have burnt the cd, just put it in the drive and boot from it...
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07:29<WAHID>witte: cd is nonbootable!
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07:31<WAHID>witte: http://up.iranblog.com/Files/87982337ea3f4f63b434.png
07:32<babilen>WAHID: You can also download the DVD *1* or CD *1* - although the DVD 1 should contain everything you need for a first install
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07:32<WAHID>babilen: DVD has big size for download!
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07:33<witte>WAHID: you are still looking at the 5th cd of the entire set
07:34<babilen>WAHID: Then download the *first* CD, which contains the installer and a basic set of programs. You can also choose between a CD1 for different desktop environments (like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, ...)
07:34<witte>WAHID: download the netinstall of +/- 150 MB
07:36<WAHID>babilen:Do you mean this iso file: debian-505-i386-CD-1.iso ?
07:37<witte>WAHID: if you download that one, you will be able to get started yes
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07:38<WAHID>ok dears! I download cd1 and test again!
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07:38<WAHID>many thanks :)
07:38<witte>WAHID: or do the netinstall which is much smaller innitially
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07:39<babilen>witte: His internet connection is too slow and he prefers to download the complete CD once ... (good advice though)
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07:39<babilen>WAHID: And please don't message me :)
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07:50<WAHID>babilen:sorry! ok :)
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07:50<babilen>WAHID: Hope it works with the first CD ;)
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07:51<WAHID>;)
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09:30<zekoZeko>anyone here from europe somewhere? I need a big favour (not computer related, at least not directly :)
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09:31<babilen>plenty
09:32<witte>zekoZeko: if it is not debian related, it is most likely off-topic here...
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09:33<allan`>good evening debian
09:33<babilen>!tell zekoZeko about ot
09:33<babilen>allan`: welcome
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09:34<allan`>babilen thanks :)
09:34<dbvolio>hi
09:34<allan`>hey dbvolio
09:34<dbvolio>who is familiar with ispconfig?
09:34<dbvolio>is a web control pannel
09:35<allan`>not me
09:35<allan`>server administration?
09:35<dbvolio>kind of
09:35<dbvolio>so
09:35<dbvolio>i have formatted my server
09:35<dbvolio>i have started to install ispconfig3 as the tutorial guided me
09:36<allan`>dbvolio how many users do you have?
09:36<dbvolio>but when i reach to the install line and i try to install it
09:36<allan`>dbvolio and hows the speed of your internet and what do your people/users do
09:36<dbvolio>it says the previous version is already installed
09:36<zekoZeko>babilen: thank you, i know, but this is where i go on this network and i just thought someone would be willing to help. thanks anyway.
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09:37<dbvolio>aaaaaaa
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09:37<dbvolio>me only i making tests with my software first
09:37<dbvolio>i need a reliable gnu webcontrol panel and a gnu radio pannel
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09:39<dbvolio>so
09:39<dbvolio>anyone?:D
09:39<dbvolio>could help me?
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09:39<Turbs>HEy
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09:40<Turbs>Someone knows why
09:40<Turbs>Brasil ftp
09:40<Turbs>Not works?
09:40<Turbs>W: Falhou ao buscar http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/i18n/Translation-pt_BR.gz Falha temporária resolvendo 'ftp.br.debian.org'
09:40<dbvolio>so???
09:40<Turbs>I can`t do apt-get update...
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09:41<Turbs>How now? ..
09:43<bremner>Change mirror.
09:43<bremner>Or wait.
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09:44<Turbs>How to change ?
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09:45<Turbs>any knows??
09:46<bremner>!sources.list
09:46<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
09:46<Turbs>ok tnx
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09:47<witte>dbvolio: ispconfig is not a real debian package so you might want to turn to the producers of the software
09:47<witte>and doesn't it have a .deb file you can install?
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09:57<Turbs>bremner tnx i sucess
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10:15<scriptwarlock>yo
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10:23<Ghebbo_Hck>hi /hola/ciao/szia :)
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10:42<Franki>Hi! I'm having a serious problem since I upgraded from linux-image-2.6.26* to linux-image-2.6.32* (from backports) in lenny, and this is not a drive name mapping problem
10:46<rudi_s>Franki: Explain your problem!
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10:48<Franki>My machine (nforce2) needs the module it87(hwmon_vid, i2c-core) to correctly report all mainboard temperatures, voltages and fan speeds (using lm-sensors). It has only rudimentary support for monitoring over acpi (only 1 temperature(ambient)!). But modprobe it87 says that some neccessary I/O range is already locked by something acpi. Unfortunately, disabling acpi completely is not solution, since I need acpi for the power management and the nouv
10:49<Franki>NickServ tells me that my nick is already used/registered. should I change my nick?
10:49<witte>Franki: /nick newname?
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10:50<Franki2>witte: thx
10:51<witte>Franki2: is the it87 loaded after booting the new kernel?
10:52<Franki2>witte: yes, it is loaded (rather: attempted to be loaded) automatically somewhen during kernel boot, init, but that fails the same way as loading it manually
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10:54<locklace>Franki2: try booting with acpi_enforce_resources=lax
10:55<Franki2>locklace: thx
10:55<Franki2>meanwhile, this is what modprobe it87 reports on linux-image-2.6.26: http://debian.pastebin.com/fHkJf9k5
10:56<Franki2>and this is what modprobe it87 reports on linux-image-2.6.32*: http://debian.pastebin.com/ssV0cvnL
10:57<locklace>Franki2: what lm-sensors version
10:57<locklace>Franki2: and what mainboard model
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10:59<Franki2>lm-sensors is version 1:3.0.2-1, that should be the most recent one. mainboard model is Shuttle AN35/N
11:00<locklace>,versions lm-sensors
11:00<judd>lm-sensors -- etch: 1:2.10.1-3; lenny: 1:3.0.2-1+b2; sid: 1:3.1.2-6; squeeze: 1:3.1.2-6
11:01<locklace>you need 3.1.x for acpi support
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11:02<Franki2>locklace: I don't feel like I really need acpi support for the lm-sensors, since my mainboard doesn't export as all hardware monitoring stuff via acpi, it gives more info via it87 and i2c
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11:05<Franki2>locklace: you mentioned the acpi_enforce_resource=lax bootparam, boot is there a reasonable way to do this only for a limited port range?
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11:07<Franki2>locklace: I've found this http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0901.3/00230.html
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11:09<Franki2>basically, I don't want any acpi hardware monitoring loaded (but keep the remaining acpi), because it87, hwmon does a better job on my board
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11:12<gez> /msg dpkg why aptitude
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11:18<Franki2>unfortunately, the acpi hardware monitoring core (not the individual modules) seems to be build into linux-image-2.6.32, so I can't just unload it or pass some modprobe paramter. And I haven't found any parameter in /sys I could tweek at runtime
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11:20<Franki2>here it is again http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2009/4/5/5412844 quote: The patch is mainly aimed to block native hwmon drivers from touching monitoring chips that ACPI thinks it own. Well, on my board, this patch does only bad. There where never a problem having acpi and hwmon request the same region, since acpi only allowed for monitoring 1 temperature, whereas hwmon allowed much more.
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11:23<witte>Franki2: you might want to address this problem in a more kernel dedicated group
11:23<witte>!kernel
11:23<dpkg>Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20100709, snapshot 2.6: 2.6.35-rc4-git4, mainline 2.6: 2.6.35-rc4, stable 2.6.34: 2.6.34.1 , stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.6 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.16 , stable 2.6.31: 2.6.31.14 , stable 2.6.27: 2.6.27.48 , stable 2.4.37: 2.4.37.9
11:23<witte>mja, didn't want to get that factoid
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11:25<Franki2>witte: #debian-kernel or #kernel?
11:26<Franki2>oops, we aren't on freenode here
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11:27<Franki2>I'm essentially looking for a way to disable acpi hardware monitoring without disabling the other acpi stuff
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11:30<witte>Franki2: i don't really know, I just notice that the specific information you are looking for is not available in this channel, at least at this moment
11:32<Franki2>witte: yeah, seems like everyone else is playing outside with the other kids, which is not surprising considering the nice weather
11:32<Franki2>anyway, thx for everything
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11:35<Maverick1200>Hi everyone !
11:36<Maverick1200>Someone has a few minutes to help me with a problem with VPN(pptpd) and NAT (iptables) ?
11:36<witte>!tell Maverick1200 about ask
11:37<witte>Maverick1200: ask, but it is a bit quite in here...
11:37<Maverick1200>ok :)
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11:39<Maverick1200>So I managed to get a VPN working between my home computer and my hosted server with pptpd. Now what I'm trying to do is to use this server as a proxy to surf the net. Therefore I've set up NAT with the following iptable rules :
11:39<Maverick1200>iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
11:39<Maverick1200>iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
11:39<Maverick1200>iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
11:40<Maverick1200>this works perfectly has long as I'm connected to my VPN before applying the rules
11:41<Maverick1200>if i disconnect my VPN and then try to reconnect it, it fails to connect.
11:41<Maverick1200>I guess there's an error with my iptables rules but I can't find where
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11:46<felixs>Maverick1200: does the reconnect work after removing the first rule?
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11:47<felixs>Maverick1200: maybe you have to be more specific about what you want to masquerade...
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11:52<Maverick>I was disconnected because i connected to the vpn. You were saying ?
11:53<felixs>Maverick1200: does the reconnect work after removing the first rule?
11:53<felixs>Maverick1200: maybe you have to be more specific about what you want to masquerade...
11:54<Maverick>felixs: Yes it does work again but therefore I lose internet connection
11:54<Maverick>felixs: any clue to make it more specific ?
11:56<troubled>Maverick: do you like "fill in the blank" solutions?
11:57<Maverick>FYI : my internet connection on the server is on eth0. VPN client on ppp0 with subnet 10.99.99.0
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11:57<troubled>Maverick: if so, you might be interested in: http://www.shorewall.net/Documentation.html
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11:57<Maverick>I just try to learn here so any solution is good for me ^^ even blanked :p
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11:58<felixs>Maverick1200: do you want to do the NAT on the client side? maybe i didnt get your idea
11:58<felixs>Maverick: what about your routing table?
11:59<troubled>Maverick: just with something like shorewall, you basically just add a line like "ppp0 eth1" to the "masq" file to setup masquerading (in this example, from eth1 interface to ppp0). simplifies things a lot imho
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12:00<Maverick>felixs: What i'd like to do is having my VPN clients to be able to connect to the internet through my server
12:00<felixs>Maverick: that sounds much like you server is going to do the NAT, right?
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12:01<Maverick>felixs: yes exactly
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12:02<Maverick>troubled: i dont know what shorewall is but i'm looking into it :)
12:03<felixs>Maverick: so you type something like route add default gw <server VPN ip> after establishing the VPN?
12:04<Maverick>felixs: actually windows client are automatically doing it but yes
12:05<solar_sea>can anyone send me a 'default' version of xorg.conf for squeeze ? (i need to configure it by hand as I use different keyboard layouts and nvidia prop driver, but X -configure leads to segfault here)
12:05<troubled>Maverick: basically, its just a set of mostly empty files that you fill in firewall settings (things like ip's, yes/no questions etc), then parses the files and turns them into iptables rules and loads them as your firewall. but it does a lot of "expert" tweaking as well
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12:06<troubled>solar_sea: would something like xdebconfigurator help generate a clean one for you?
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12:07<solar_sea>troubled, I'm not sure whether this answer is ironic, but I haven't heard of such tool until now ;)
12:07<Maverick>the thing is that those rules do work when my client is already connected to the vpn server. but they alse prevent new vpn logins :s
12:08<troubled>solar_sea: don't feel bad, I only found it myself last week while apt-cache searching for something :)
12:08<felixs>Maverick: where 'those rules' refers to the first rule, right?
12:09<Maverick>yep those one : http://pastealacon.com/25315
12:09<solar_sea>bartm, thanks, but I'm behind NAT. Can you pastebin it ?
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12:11<bartm>solar_sea: http://pastebin.com/gh3RMetX
12:11<solar_sea>bartm, thanks alot!
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12:12<felixs>Maverick: my first guess was, that -o eth0 matches more than you want... but i dont see how this could break the vpn login
12:13<felixs>Maverick: is there any way to add -s 10.x.y.x to the POSTROUTING rule?
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12:13<Maverick>felixs: you might be right, as the vpn connection is made on top of eth0
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12:14<legostrat>Hey
12:15<legostrat>I'm trying to install the emerald theme manager, and I'm getting some errors...
12:15<Maverick>felixs: I'll try that now
12:15<legostrat>http://pastebin.com/XXLvHJFz
12:15<legostrat>That's what I'm getting
12:16<legostrat>It says I'm missing some packages, and I don't know how to install them
12:16<troubled>legostrat: generally for a compile, you look for and install <pkg base name>-dev to install the header files to compile against
12:17<legostrat>Okay, so if it asks for gtk+-2.0, should I look for gtk+-dev?
12:17<legostrat>That was one that I couldn't figure out
12:18<troubled>legostrat: for example, ubuntu "apt-cache libdecoration" shows libdecoration0 and libdecoration0-dev
12:18<witte>legostrat: you should look with apt-cache search (eg apt-cache search gtk
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12:18<bartm>legostrat: apt-get install libdecoration0-dev
12:18<troubled>legostrat: in that case you want the -dev one
12:18<witte>legostrat: for gtk: apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
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12:19<Maverick1200>felixs: the command " iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 10.99.99.0 -j MASQUERADE" is accepted but no more internet for clients
12:19<Maverick1200>:s
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12:20<felixs>Maverick1200: hand a whole subnet to -s
12:20<legostrat>troubled & witte: can you explain what the apt-cache command does? I've never seen it before. I've always seen apt-get
12:20<troubled>Maverick: you probably want 10.99.99.9.0/24
12:20<caracole>yo all :)
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12:20<troubled>otherwise it might be defaulting to a /32
12:20<witte>!apt-cache
12:20<dpkg>methinks apt-cache is a tool with several commands that query the package cache in various ways. To see versions of a package or which repository it came from, use "apt-cache policy foo", "apt-cache show foo" or "apt-cache showpkg foo" (searches for reverse dependencies). "apt-cache search foo" helps to find which packages provide or are related to foo, by searching all package descriptions. See also <which repo>.
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12:21<legostrat>Hmmm
12:21<legostrat>Okay
12:21<troubled>legostrat: "apt-cache show pkgname" shows info on an exact package, "apt-cache search partial text" searches for "partial text"
12:21<Maverick1200>troubled & felixs: yeah right :) i'll try that
12:21<troubled>but you can also add --names-only to make your text search limit itself to the package filenames only
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12:22<moldovean>legostrat, libgtk2.0-dev: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc
12:23<legostrat>What do i do with that?
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12:23<moldovean>install it
12:23<troubled>legostrat: translate as: "packagename1.0-dev: /path/to/some/filename/something.h"
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12:24<troubled>he's just showing you that libgtk2.0-dev has the gtk+-2.0.pc file you want/need
12:25<Maverick>troubled & felixs : I am know talking to you through my vpn connection ! Thanks a lot really !
12:25<legostrat>Okay, so I want to install libgtk2.0-dev, and it'll install that file?
12:25<troubled>aparently
12:25<moldovean>legostrat, but why compile ?
12:26<legostrat>Why compile what?
12:26<legostrat>Emerald?
12:26<moldovean>emer..
12:26<felixs>Maverick: the -s thing is also missing in my firewall scripts. thanks for the hint :)
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12:26<legostrat>this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=26966#169071 tutorial is saying that I've gotta compile emerald myself
12:26<Maverick>felixs: You're welcome ^^
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12:27<legostrat>brb, gotta get my cd
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12:30<legostrat>I'm back
12:30<solar_sea>Are there any known issues with X in squeeze not handling keyboards properly? With the following xorg.conf - http://pastebin.com/Vbz1jc5t, xev - detects keys correctly, I'm still not able to change keyboard layouts. As a matter of fact, I can't even do ctrl+alt+backspace.
12:31<locklace>!dontzap
12:31<dpkg>In Lenny, disable termination of your X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace by placing Option "DontZap" "on" within the ServerFlags section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5) or ask me about <xorg config lenny>. In Squeeze, zapping is disabled by default. "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked if Ctrl+Alt+Backspace can terminate the X server; setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
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12:32<solar_sea>ah, killing the xserver is alt+sysrq+k now, alright, this works :)
12:32<legostrat>Okay so when I tried to install libgtk2.0-dev via apt-get, it's now asking for the cd: Debian GNU/Linux testing _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 CD Binary-1 20100216-17:50
12:32<legostrat>I tried putting in the cd I installed from, but it's not accepting it
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12:33<legostrat>And i'm wondering why in the first place, it needs my cd... Can't it just install from the internet?
12:33<bartm>legostrat: yes it can
12:33<locklace>!tell solar_sea about dontzap
12:33<bartm>legostrat: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
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12:34<legostrat>Okay, I'm editing it
12:34<legostrat>what do I put in it? Or am I removing an entry for the cd?
12:34<bartm>legostrat: #comment the entry for the cd
12:35<bartm>legostrat: pastebin the result :)
12:35<legostrat>Okay
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12:36<legostrat>http://pastebin.com/qSCmTEwK
12:36<legostrat>Not sure why there are two entries for it, but I commented out the second one.
12:36<bartm>legostrat: apt-get update
12:37<legostrat>Alrighty!
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12:38<bartm>sounds happy
12:38<legostrat>(did apt-get update)
12:38<legostrat>Yep
12:38<legostrat>I like seeing commands execute successfully. :P
12:38<jhutchins_lt>legostrat: Could we persuade you to use aptitude?
12:38<legostrat>Sure.
12:38<legostrat>What would be the benefit?
12:38<jhutchins_lt>!why aptitude
12:38<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>).
12:39<legostrat>I see.
12:39<legostrat>I always wondered where there was a difference
12:39<sesev>umm, how do I can install gnome after I've installed KDE
12:39<jhutchins_lt>Also does a better job of tracking un-needed dependencies when you use it to remove things.
12:39<bartm>sesev: apt-get install gnome
12:39<legostrat>Cool.
12:39<sesev>I tried, but E: Lukkotiedostoa /var/lib/dpkg/lock ei voitu avata - open (13 Lupa evätty)
12:39<sesev>E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
12:40<jhutchins_lt>sesev: tasksel install gnome
12:40<sesev>access denied
12:40<jhutchins_lt>sesev: they both need to be run as root.
12:40<sesev>umm, is that command su?
12:41<bartm>sesev: try this: su -
12:41<sesev>ive used ubuntu few years ago and I
12:41<jhutchins_lt>sesev: Also, if you use a graphical package manager (synaptics) you need to make sure it's closed.
12:41<sesev>I'm quite rusty
12:41<jhutchins_lt>sesev: Yes, su -
12:41<jhutchins_lt>The dash is not strictly necessary in Debian, but it is in other distros so it's good practice.
12:42<sesev>unknown id: apt-get
12:42<sesev>:S
12:42<bartm>sesev: what exactly did you type?
12:42<sesev>su - apt-get install gnome
12:43<bartm>sesev: try this alone: su -
12:43<legostrat>How do i search for a packages?
12:43<slush>aptitude search
12:43<bartm>legostrat: apt-cache search
12:43<bartm>:)
12:43<moldovean>!as
12:43<dpkg>i heard as is autosearch: install apt-file and use apt-cache search <packagename> and/or apt-file search <name> , do it yourself. Don't forget to run apt-file update ;)
12:43<legostrat>It's asking for libwnck-1.0
12:44<bartm>legostrat: apt-get install libwnck-dev
12:44<legostrat>Ah
12:44<legostrat>I see.
12:45<legostrat>Okay so when searching for a package, I want to ignore the package version, such as the -1.0 on that libwnck, and search for just the name of the package?
12:46<legostrat>I just searched for the package "pangocairo" and it didn't find any results.
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12:47<legostrat>That's the last package that it needs
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12:47<troubled>legostrat: generally ya
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12:47<Painty>hi
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12:48<Painty>problem with phpmyadmin with apache2
12:48<Painty>how can i prevent that root is active in phpmyadmin login
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12:48<Painty>i want to deactivate the user root in phpmyadmin
12:48<bartm>legostrat: maybe libpango1.0-dev
12:49<moldovean>libpango1.0-dev libcairo2-dev
12:49<bzed>Painty: phpmyadmin uses the users from mysql
12:49<bzed>Painty: fix your users and permissions in mysql then.
12:49<slush>Painty: you can disable accounts in the config, iirc
12:49<Painty>i can login with any user
12:50<Painty>i just dont want to login with root on phpmyadmin
12:50<slush>Painty: check the documentation
12:50<Painty>cause someone could delete all databases then
12:50<slush>Painty: and, this is #debian -not #phpmyadmin
12:50<troubled>if they know the root password, sure
12:50<troubled>(to mysql)
12:51<legostrat>both of those packages are already installed
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12:52<legostrat>Yet it's still asking for pangocairo
12:53<troubled>legostrat: sometimes its not that you don't have a lib installed, but you have a version thats too old. whats the error say? and does the readme mention what the min version you need is? and does debian provide that version?
12:53<legostrat>wait a sec, it's not asking for it anymore
12:53<troubled>:|
12:53<legostrat>I just ran ./configure for emerald again
12:54<legostrat>alrighty...
12:54<legostrat>It's working.
12:54<legostrat>Ah, nope.
12:54<troubled>!dance legostrat
12:54<legostrat>Hahahaha
12:54<troubled>bah, too soon :)
12:54<legostrat>Yep.
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12:56<legostrat>Createing a pastebin.
12:56<troubled>legostrat: btw, ever try pastebinit package? haven't yet myself, but its supposed to be convenient
12:57<legostrat>Hmm? What is it rumored to do?
12:57<legostrat>http://pastebin.com/LwTCMn8B
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12:57<troubled>legostrat: its a command line pastebin program
12:57<troubled>apt-cache show pastebinit, I think
12:57<babilen>,info pastebinit
12:57<judd>pastebinit (misc, optional): command-line pastebin client. Version: 0.10-2; Size: 9.0k; Installed: 88k; Homepage: http://launchpad.net/pastebinit/
12:57<legostrat>Interesting
12:58<babilen>it is a horrible hack though ...
12:58<legostrat>Well, I'll look into it later
12:58<legostrat>For now, I'm fine with just posting it manually.
12:58<babilen>but it's quite convinient as long as you don't take a look at the source code :)
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13:00<moldovean>legostrat, thats 'make' not ./configure
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13:00<legostrat>Yeah, ./configure ran successrully.
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13:01<troubled>legostrat: seems you aren't the only emerald user running into this depreciated symbol define: http://bugs.gentoo.org/308791
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13:03<legostrat>Interesting
13:03<troubled>http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkWidget.html mentions that GTK_WIDGET_VISIBLE has been depreciated
13:03<legostrat>depreciated means it's out of date?
13:03<babilen>AFAICT GTK_WIDGET_VISIBLE is deprecated and should be replaced by gtk_widget_get_visible in the source
13:03<troubled>guess so
13:03<legostrat>Oh boy.
13:03<solar_sea>Squeeze, xlog - http://pastebin.com/fJwKFLhD, xorg.conf - http://pastebin.com/PSjmwJzs. The keyboard layouts and variant are not detected. However, when I set them manually from x - http://pastebin.com/gdNUY6zi - it works
13:04<solar_sea>Any ideas what is causing this ?
13:04<babilen>troubled: You might want to contact upstream - they might have a version which is already patched. Are you compiling a Debian package?
13:04<troubled>babilen: legostrat is doing this, im just helping
13:05<legostrat>Compiling emerald theme manager.
13:05<babilen>troubled: ah, sorry ENICK ...
13:05<troubled>:) np
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13:06<babilen>legostrat: You could clone their repository and try to build that: http://cgit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald/
13:07<troubled>legostrat: as a start, you might want to vim or less the file "emerald-0.8.4/src/main.c:3760: undefined reference to `GTK_WIDGET_VISIBLE'", and then do a "3760G" to jump to that line and see whats there, then try change the define to the new funct() for the depreciated api call and try recompile
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13:08<babilen>... which is: replace GTK_WIDGET_VISIBLE by gtk_widget_get_visible ... But I would rather try the latest development versino
13:08<babilen>legostrat: But this is really not a Debian issue and I bet that #compiz on freenode can help you better with this
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13:09<legostrat>Hmmmm
13:09<troubled>aye
13:10<legostrat>how do I join a freenode chat?
13:10<troubled>legostrat: irc.freenode.net
13:10-!-mtpecena [~mtpecena@bl13-162-54.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #debian
13:10<legostrat>I try putting in irc.freenode.net
13:10-!-mtpecena is now known as euler
13:10<legostrat>but it gives me Terminated
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13:10<babilen>legostrat: /connect irc.freenode.net and then /join #debian
13:10<troubled>you can generally do "/server irc.freenode.net", but that will disconect you from here
13:10<legostrat>Though that's through mibbit.com
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13:11<troubled>oh, use webchat.freenode.net, they block mibbit now iirc
13:11<legostrat>Oh
13:12<legostrat>Alrighty, I'm in.
13:12<legostrat>Let's see if they can help...
13:12<troubled>godspeed :)
13:12<legostrat>Thanks for all the help!
13:12<legostrat>:D
13:12<babilen>legostrat: and you probably want to join #compiz not #debian :)
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13:15<legostrat>Yeah, that would help.
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13:18<legostrat>Hmmm
13:18<legostrat>They're not saying much.
13:18<troubled>patience is a virtue ;)
13:18<legostrat>PFFFT.
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13:18<legostrat>:P
13:19<legostrat>Who needs patience!
13:19<legostrat>I suppose i do.
13:19<legostrat>:D
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13:23<babilen>legostrat: tried the latest git tip?
13:24<legostrat>No?
13:24<babilen>"No?" ?
13:25<legostrat>I don't know what the latest git tip is.
13:25<babilen>I gave you their git repository earlier .. Just clone it (git clone http://....) and try to build that
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13:26<babilen> http://cgit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald/ it is
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13:29<legostrat>git clone http://cgit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald/snapshot/emerald-0.8.4.tar.gz didn't work
13:29<legostrat>is that how it's supposed to look?
13:29<troubled>heh
13:29<legostrat>i'm guessing no.
13:29<legostrat>:P
13:30<troubled>that path is to a tar.gz, so im guessing that would be a direct download of a snapshot
13:30<troubled>legostrat: you are looking for a url that ends in .git probably
13:31<legostrat>Oh
13:31<troubled>anyways, dishes beckon, gl
13:31<legostrat>Well, it said, Bash: git: command not found
13:31<legostrat>installing git
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13:33<moldovean>legostrat, you have already tried emerald-0.8.4 , isn't it ?
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13:35<legostrat>Yeah
13:35<legostrat>Running git command for emerald
13:36<legostrat>Okay, it's done
13:36<legostrat>so what do i do with this new directory?
13:36<moldovean>ask #compiz man
13:37<legostrat>I already have posted a question there, and am waiting for an answer...
13:37<babilen>or just use a different window manager/decorator and call it a day :)
13:37<legostrat>lol
13:38<legostrat>babilen: I ran git clone git://anongit.compiz.org/fusion/decorators/emerald and it completed, I'm just confused as to what I should do with it now
13:38<kleini___>someone has a good site/guide for people who are new to kernel compile? (I don't mean like compiling guides, I'm finding them fine with google. I mean like guides that tell you what what is about in the config)
13:38<babilen>legostrat: There is probably a file INSTALL which explains how to compile the code ... could be as easy as the "./configure && make && make install" mantra
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13:38<babilen>legostrat: But ask #compiz - it's their code and they should know it
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13:41<legostrat>how would I run configure.ac?
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13:42<legostrat>ah, nvm
13:43<legostrat>well, I'll try again later
13:43<legostrat>I gotta go work outside for a while
13:43<legostrat>bbl
13:43<babilen>have fun
13:44<legostrat>:)
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13:48<troubled>kleini___: generally, all the documentation you need is in $KERNEL_DIR/Documentation, or in the "<Help>" menus in a `make menuconfig`
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13:50<kleini___>troubled: yes, but I was looking for something that gave me like a sort of summary for the (most) important parts,a bit like this: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Kernel-HOWTO-4.html
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13:50<troubled>kleini___: generally speaking, start with the config from your /boot dir for the current kernel. at least then you will 99% of the time get a working base
13:51<kleini___>thank you :) That is what I've done so far ;)
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13:52<kleini___>anyway... lets put some work in it :) thanks anyway :)
13:52<troubled>kleini___: np, gl
13:52<troubled>btw, probably good idea to learn make-kpkg to compile
13:52<troubled>its "the debian way" :)
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13:59<dbvolio>hi
13:59<dbvolio>anyone
13:59<dbvolio>what gnu webhost control panel should i use???
14:00<dbvolio>a working one please
14:00<dbvolio>i need one urgently
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14:00<bremner>dbvolio: ok, question received. Now you might need to wait a bit for an answer.
14:02<dbvolio>ok
14:03<locklace>!need
14:03<dpkg>You do not NEED an application. You definitely do not NEED a game or site. You do not NEED a shell. You do not NEED to get a ban lifted. You NEED food. So go and buy your food, and if you feel that you absolutely NEED a program, we suggest that you go and buy that too while you're out. You do need beer, though.
14:04<dbvolio>c'mon man
14:04<dbvolio>i need support
14:04<dbvolio>i tryed to install on a fresh debian lenny ispconfig3
14:05<dbvolio>the first version 3.0.1 had an error i tryed to fix as tthe forum said not worked
14:05<dbvolio>and the last 3.0.2.2
14:05<craigevil>dbvolio: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-lenny-ispconfig3
14:05<dbvolio>said i already have installed on my seerver ispconfig2
14:05<dbvolio>yes
14:05<dbvolio>that tutorial
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14:06<dbvolio>i followed it to the verry end
14:06<dbvolio>line with line
14:06<dbvolio>but the same error
14:06<dbvolio>i have formatted my server 33 times
14:06<dbvolio>*e times
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14:06<dbvolio>3
14:06<dbvolio>ma bad
14:06<dbvolio>so
14:06<dbvolio>i have the same error
14:06<dbvolio>so
14:07<dbvolio>i decided to lae it go and find another web control panel besides webmin
14:07<dbvolio>and nothing
14:07<craigevil>you might try openpanel, http://www.openpanel.com/download_control/
14:08<bremner>you might also find people are friendlier if you hit the return key less often.
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14:09<dbvolio>oh
14:10<dbvolio>sorryD:D:D
14:10<dbvolio>ok
14:10<dbvolio>thanks for help
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14:12<craigevil>dbvolio: openpanel has a debian repo that makes it easy to install
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14:16<dbvolio>what is a repo?
14:16<dbvolio>:D kind of beginner:D
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14:16<dbvolio>and i have to make a bash file to make my admin user?:D
14:17<craigevil>a repository , a line that you add to /etc/apt/sources.list so you can use aptitude install
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14:17<dbvolio>oh
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14:26<knoppix_>quit
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14:28<dbvolio>i kinda need help:D
14:28<dbvolio>with openpanel:d
14:28<dbvolio>i hit whe wget -O- get.openpanel.com | sh
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14:28<dbvolio>and it says only debian etch is supported
14:29<aala>does anyone know how to set up utf-8 ncodig system wide? in lxde
14:29<dbvolio>i have lenny on:D
14:29<dbvolio>so
14:29<dbvolio>i hit the wget -O- get.openpanel.com
14:29<aala>anybody!
14:29<aala>does anyone know how to set up utf-8 ncodig system wide? in lxde
14:30<bartm>aala: dpkg-reconfigure locales
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14:31<troubled>aala: tried "dpkg-reconfigure locales"?
14:33<dbvolio>???
14:35<bartm>dbvolio: see "Manual Binary Installation on Debian and Ubuntu" on http://www.openpanel.com/download_control/
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14:37<dbvolio>the problem is i am running debian lenny:(((
14:37<dbvolio>and openpanel is not compatible with lenny only with etch
14:38<dbvolio>do you know another webhost panel that i aould use?
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14:38<dbvolio>please help
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14:40<dbvolio>???
14:42<bartm>dbvolio: if you don't get an answer here, then you could try google with keywords like "hosting control panel"
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14:56<dankobum>Ich habe jetzt mein Debian 5 laufen, kann nur mein C:\ nicht mounten, um meine gespeicherten Daten einzuspielen
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14:57<locklace>!de
14:57<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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15:05<dankobum>sorry for my German, the first time I am in this channel, my problem is solved
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15:05<gernot>Hi. On squeeze with kernel 2.6.32-5 and the latest wl driver (built with m-a) the transfer rate seems to be limited to 1 MB/s at best. With kernel 2.6.32-3 and the previous version of the wl driver (and all versions before that) I can transfer with over 4 MB/s. Can some think of reasons for this and suggest something I can do to troubleshoot this?
15:06<srujan_> hi friend, i have a problem with my realtek 8191se wireless card, i installed the kernel module r8192se_pci, it worked fine for a day, but now i 'm unable to connect to my wireless, please someone help me out
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15:12<cthuluh>srujan_: you mean rtl8192se?
15:12<srujan_>yeah
15:12<cthuluh>dpkg: tell srujan_ about rtl8192se
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15:34<srujan_>hi cthuluh
15:34<srujan_>i actually installed the rt8192se driver
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15:34<srujan_>i could scan the wireless networks
15:34<srujan_>but unable to connect them using iwconfig
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15:37<felixs>srujan_: is it unencrypted? otherwise you will need something like wpasupplicant
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15:38<srujan_>its encrypted with wep
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15:38<moldovean>!wicd
15:38<dpkg>wicd is probably Wireless Interface Connection Daemon, a wired and <wireless connection manager>. A backported package is available for Lenny, ask me about <bpo>. See also <netdev>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wicd http://wicd.sf.net/ #wicd on irc.freenode.net.
15:39<felixs>okay, wep should work without wpasupplicant or wicd(?). but i wouldnt call it 'encryption'.
15:40<srujan_>ok
15:41<srujan_>felixs: actually i installed it yesterday and it worked fine..but today it is not connecting
15:44<felixs>srujan_: i don't remember how you did it :|. what are you doing/expecting?
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15:47<srujan_>when i 'm assigning essid through iwconfig , it is not reflecting ( when i again check with iwconfig essid is not configured)
15:47<srujan_>what would be the problem?
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15:54<locklace>srujan_: my experience is that the rtl8192 drivers in mainline are very buggy
15:54<locklace>srujan_: i didn't have any luck with an 8192e until i searched out the latest source release from realtek and built it
15:55<srujan_>ya even i did the same
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15:56<srujan_>i 'm getting the results using iwlist
15:56<srujan_>but while connecting using iwconfig , i
15:56<srujan_>'m facing the problem
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16:17<FoxM>Hi. I need to download the usb-modeswitch and usb-modeswitch-data packages to install it in another machine. I was thinking of downloading the .deb packages and install them with dpkg -i but I cannot find the -deb files... is there any way to find them or build them?
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16:20<FoxM>or can I look for them in another machine that already has the software installed?
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16:24<rudi_s>FoxM: packages.debian.org has links to the .deb files for each architecture. Or you could download them (aptitude/apt-get) and look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
16:24<moldovean>, versions usb-modeswitch
16:24<judd>usb-modeswitch -- sid: 1.1.3-1; squeeze: 1.1.3-1
16:25<FoxM>ohhh... that was easy... HAHAHA... I thought it only showed the list of files... I didn't check the other link. thanks a lot!
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16:27<rudi_s>You're welcome.
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16:39<nutron>anyone familiar with FAI? I've asked in the channel, but 24 hours of no response... so maybe I'll ask here.
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16:40<nutron>After skimming through google results, I can't figure out if FAI is the right solution to automate diskless client setups
16:40<nutron>can FAI be used to auto setup nfs root shares?
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16:41<kaduk>Hi
16:41<kaduk>any news about flash for amd64 ?
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16:42<jaleks>after the last update of slim my auto login stopped working - does any see an error in slim.conf (http://pastebin.com/kzEcjpzz) perhaps? atm it just fills in my username (where i think it might be trying the login, because i got a short flickering i have not had before)
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16:43<quigly>i have two sets of sound hardware: one sound card that i want to use and built in sound hardware on the mainboard
16:44<quigly>alsa wants to use the hardware on the mainboard and reloads its configuration on boot when i want the sound card hardware to be configured on boot
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16:45<quigly>configuration works fine but it isn't stored properly
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16:45<witte>kaduk: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer, that is the latest as far as I know
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16:51<Cygnus>I need to make a machine which has no printers connect to a central cups server I checked everything that you might imagine and still no luck. Does anyone know how to do it?
16:51<jaleks>(back after reboot)
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16:56<moldovean>nutron, http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/fai-guide/ar01s07.html#_anchor_id_hooks_xreflabel_hooks_hooks
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16:58<nutron>moldovean: Thanks, seems sparse information on the setup used, but I can probably figure it out. Thanks. Google wasn't helping me :)
16:59<moldovean>nutron, read all fai manual ..
17:00<nutron>moldovean: I would have if it wasn't step based. I will now.
17:00<nutron>Thanks.
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17:06<quigly>cygnus: have you seen http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040101194202284 ?
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17:08<quigly>it may help even though its nominally for macs
17:08<sakopako>hi every body
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17:12<Rafael_Brazil>HI!!!
17:12<Cygnus>quigly: there is an option where you can make your local cups server a slave from the central, i haven't found that option although i do use it on my personal laptop
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17:16<Rafael_Brazil>ALGUEM TEM UM ROTEIRO DE ESTUDO PARA LPI
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17:18<franki^>!br | Rafael_Brazil
17:18<franki^>Hmmm
17:18<franki^>!pt
17:18<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
17:18<Rafael_Brazil>yes
17:18<Rafael_Brazil>brazil
17:18<Rafael_Brazil>uhuuu
17:19<Rafael_Brazil>alguem tem um roteiro de estudo para lpi
17:19<quigly>cygnus: can't you just remove the local CUPS and point your print jobs to the remote CUPS?
17:19<Cygnus>quigly: tell me how and i'll do it
17:20<Cygnus>AFAIK i need the local cups to do that.
17:21<old>jaleks: I also had problems with slim. It somehow messed up my keyboard.
17:21<franki^>Rafael_Brazil: Por favor va a #debian-br o #debian-pt
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17:22<jaleks>but the autologin is working for you? i did not even alter the config file on update...
17:22<Cygnus>!tell Rafael_Brazil about br
17:22<Rafael_Brazil>como franki
17:22<Rafael_Brazil>#debian-br
17:22<franki^>Rafael_Brazil: Escribe "/join #debian-br"
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17:23<franki^>Erm, "Escreve" ;)
17:23<franki^>No hablo Portugues :P
17:24<Rafael_Brazil>no
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17:24<Rafael_Brazil>speak english ?
17:24<Cygnus>quigly: i actually found that /etc/printcap is the file that has all the printers which are enabled for a computer. I just have to find how that file is generated through the config file
17:25<Rafael_Brazil>franki
17:25<franki^>Rafael_Brazil: You can speak English here, or you can go to #debian-br and speak Portuguese :)
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17:26<Rafael_Brazil>yes... thanks
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17:26<Rafael_Brazil>is forbidden to speak portuguese here?
17:27<locklace>!en
17:27<dpkg>The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de
17:27<pascal>You won't get many answers, I guess
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17:28<Rafael_Brazil>uhuuu
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17:29<Rafael_Brazil>so i will ask in english
17:29<Rafael_Brazil>anyone have a study guide for LPI
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17:31<quigly>cygnus: my printer doesn't talk with debian so i haven't the expertise to really help you as much as i'd like... seems like you should be able to setup CUPS on your printer server, have it listening for connections and you can just send print jobs to it
17:32<quigly>by using system -> preferences -> default printer
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17:33<legostrat>Hey, are there other theme managers other than emerald?
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17:38<Rafael_Brazil>not
17:38<Rafael_Brazil>lego
17:39<Rafael_Brazil>use:
17:39<Rafael_Brazil>aptitude install emerald
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17:48<edbian>The debian help says that private python modules should be installed in /usr/share/module but I don't have a /usr/share/module folder. Should I create it?
17:49<edbian>What permissions should it have?
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17:52<Golfgeo>Hi all
17:52<bzed>edbian: /usr/share/packagename would be the better folder.
17:52<bzed>edbian: and I *think* you misuderstodd something here
17:52<bzed>edbian: are you talking about packaging a python module/program?
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17:56<edbian>bzed, I'm curious where my custom python modules should be placed.
17:56<edbian>I'm learning about dist-utils right now
17:57<bzed>edbian: again, are you talking about packaging a module (into a .deb file), or just installing it into your system?
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17:57<bzed>edbian: 'pivate' there only means that the module is only used by one program/pacakge, which ships th emodule.
17:57<bzed>edbian: it has nothing to do with stuff written by you
17:57<bzed>or installed by you manually
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18:01<edbian>bzed, oic
18:01<edbian>Thank you
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18:18<Th_>good evening everyone...
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18:20<Rafael_Brazil>good
18:20<Rafael_Brazil>yes
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18:25<Cygnus>What the heck is rpc.statd and who calls it?
18:26<moldovean>!rpc
18:26<dpkg>rumour has it, rpc is remote procedure call, a protocol used for executing procedures on a (usually remote) server
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18:27<Cygnus>How do i tell it to leave udp port 631 alone?
18:28<moldovean> cat /etc/services | grep rpc
18:28<moldovean> cat /etc/services | grep 631
18:29<eightyeight>eeek
18:29<eightyeight>how about 'grep rpc /etc/services' or 'grep 631 /etc/services'?
18:29<eightyeight>piping cat to grep is highly redundant
18:29<Cygnus>!uuoca moldovean
18:30<moldovean> rpc has noting to do with printing
18:30<Cygnus>i know, it actually is blocking udp port 631 and it is making a mess out of this piece of metal
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18:30<legostrat>Hey
18:30<Cygnus>The question is how do i make rpc stay away from udp 631
18:30<legostrat>for some reason, youtube vids don't work
18:31<legostrat>on debian squeeze
18:31<witte>legostrat: they do on my pc
18:31<witte>legostrat: downloaded a flash player?
18:31<legostrat>I'm not sure
18:32<witte>legostrat: check in about:plugins
18:32<witte>in iceweasel
18:32<legostrat>Should it be adobe flash player?
18:33<legostrat>nvm
18:33<moldovean>legostrat, on amd64 ?
18:33<legostrat>Yeah
18:34<legostrat>gonna try following this tut: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
18:34<moldovean>!loss legostrat
18:34<legostrat>ah
18:34<legostrat>lol
18:34<legostrat>not supported
18:34<honeypuck>If it doesn't with with package flashplayer-nonfree (repositories) you might want to try mozilla-flashplayer, only the second option worked with me. Also 64 bit
18:35<honeypuck>You need a workaround - craigevil has written a great solution on the Debian wiki that works fine
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18:43<legostrat>honeypuck: just tried following the tutorial by craigevil
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18:44<legostrat>for some reason, it didn't work
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18:44<legostrat>Actually, I'm gonna try logging out...
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18:50<Blacktail>hi all
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19:00<honeypuck>@legostrat Sad to hear that it didn't work with you, the only issue I have is that it uses up most of the CPU (and I have an Intel Quadcore i760 - not the worst thing to have)
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19:01<Cygnus>!@
19:01<dpkg>@ is used to separate the username from the hostname in an email address, to denote channel operators on IRC, and to direct comments to particular users in some web forums. It is NOT used to direct comments on IRC; use "name: ..." instead of "@name ...".
19:01<honeypuck>Sorry, I didn't know that. :-(
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19:01<Cygnus>now you do
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19:02<honeypuck>Hope, I won't forget that ;-)
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19:02<ville>honeypuck: and, try this: write two first letters like "ho" and pres tab
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19:03<honeypuck>hobbestigrou_: What that mean?
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19:03<ville>Two first letters of name what you are writing..
19:04<ville>like vi it says ville:
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19:04<ville>and another time tab if there is many names starting with vi
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19:05<honeypuck>Ok, I get it. Didn't that there is someone with the name hobbestigrou_
19:05-!-sof [~sof@cpe-75-186-123-250.indy.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:05<ville>Yes there is user named: hobbestigrou_
19:06<honeypuck>Just checked the user list.
19:06<locklace>poor bastard. he's going to wake up tomorrow and wonder what all the fuss was about
19:06<ville>i was thinking just that..
19:07<honeypuck>He/She should understand, I hope.
19:07<ville>njÃah,he/she will bit you.
19:08<honeypuck>Don't make me have a bad sleep...
19:09<ville>good luck with that :-D
19:09<honeypuck>I'll take some pills.
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19:10<honeypuck>Using IRC can have negative side effects, I realize.
19:10<ville>ye, i think so. but now good night ...
19:11<honeypuck>For you, too
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21:00<marcosroriz>hello guys
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21:13<mhakat>hello - just joined for the first time
21:17<mhakat>smitty hi
21:18<moldovean>topic
21:18<moldovean>!topic
21:19<mhakat>moldovean topic?
21:20<moldovean>nvm
21:21<moldovean>mhakat, have a debian question ?
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21:25<mhakat>moldovean yes how do you check missing libraries when compiling?
21:26<moldovean>see errors log
21:27<moldovean>but usually compiling isn't debian ..
21:27<moldovean>gentoo rather
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21:32<mhakat>moldovean, sorry can tell the difference... new to computers, was just using the deb tutorials
21:32<Rovanion>Lads, I want to simply copy the contents of a directory and all subdirectories of a HTTP server. I tried wget -r, turns out it was smart and fallowed links, now what I was looking for.
21:33<moldovean>mhakat, want to compile what exactly ?
21:34<Rovanion>Can I simply tell wget to copy a web directory and all subdirectories with a depth of, lets say five.
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21:35<moldovean>man wget may helps ?
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21:35<Rovanion>The manual is huge, I'm looking trough it right now but man does wget have many options
21:36<moldovean>man wget | grep depth
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21:37<mhakat>moldovean - trying to compile scrollz
21:37<Rovanion>Seems like it only has depth accompanied with recursive -r
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21:38<moldovean>mhakat, and now the natural: why ?
21:38<mhakat>moldovean ... and got errors so i used apt-get to install it
21:38<moldovean>mhakat, use lenny ?
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21:38<mhakat>moldovean - ..was just learning
21:40<moldovean>moldovean, recommend irssi and or xchat
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21:42<moldovean>03:37<moldovean> mhakat, use lenny ?
21:42<moldovean>(2)
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21:43<mhakat>moldovean is lenny not debian 5?
21:43<moldovean>yes
21:44<moldovean>mhakat, /msg dpkg debian
21:44<Rovanion>I am suspecting tat wget cannot do what I want, what other get programs are out there?
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21:45<moldovean>webhttrack
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21:46<moldovean>Rovanion, /msg dpkg as
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21:46<moldovean>Rovanion, btw, using debian ?
21:46<Rovanion>moldovean, Yes of course
21:47<moldovean>not so sure , as your questions sound ..
21:47<moldovean>and your interest ..
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21:48<Rovanion>moldovean, You are not sure if I'm running debian? Wait what?
21:48<Rovanion>Linux HannaDebian 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 06:14:20 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
21:49<Rovanion>Not up to date it seems, but still testing
21:49<mhakat>moldovean i am using debian
21:49<moldovean>what's HannaDebian ?
21:49<Rovanion>moldovean, It's my hostname....
21:49<Rovanion>uname -a
21:49<mhakat>moldovean ..am not sure which one
21:50<moldovean>mhakat, cat /etc/debian_version , says ?
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21:51<moldovean>, kernels
21:51<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-16); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
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21:53<mhakat>moldovean i want to get involved but do not know were to sart
21:55<moldovean>start ?
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21:56<moldovean>mhakat, /msg dpkg reference
21:57<mhakat>moldovean i do not know where to start from yes
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21:57<Rovanion>mhakat want's to help out with the Debian distribution, but he does not know where to start, where his contribution would be appriciated and where it's possible for him to contribute with his current experience
21:58<moldovean>!Mailing List
21:58<dpkg>Mailing lists allow large numbers of people in various time zones to share knowledge and experiences, these communications are also persistent. See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ . mbox archives are not provided via the web archive due to Listmaster team policy (BTS #161440). For lists.debian.org questions, join #debian-lists (OFTC) or e-mail listmaster@lists.debian.org. See also <list spam> and <subscribed>.
21:59<moldovean>!reference
21:59<dpkg>The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. The latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference'
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22:05<jhutchins_lt>mhakat: Find bugs, figure out how to fix them, write good bug reports. Help people in IRC. Work on translations of documentation to your native language.
22:06<mhakat>very help full thanks guys
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22:10<moldovean>!next
22:10<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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22:24<kleini___>what are the most common mistakes when people build their first custom kernel?
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22:27<acimmarusti>I would say it's removing support for a module that they actually need. It happened to me that I removed the tun driver. Later I realized it was used for vpnc! and I had to recompile my kernel
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22:27<kleini___>well, just now I couln't boot cuz I got a mounting error :) That sounds so noobish :D
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22:30<mhakat>GUYS i installe debein on a dell optiplex 260 but could not get the GUI
22:30<kleini___>worst part is, im still getting it :)
22:30<mhakat>it had 128mb ram
22:30<mhakat>can anyone help?
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22:37<acimmarusti>mhakat: what Desktop Environment did you install? gnome? kde? xfce? lxde?
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