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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-07-31

---Logopened Sat Jul 31 00:00:25 2010
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00:02<r0ger>anyone know if gparted can clone a disk or if i have to get something like ghost to do it?
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00:15<chris_>halp i not cheeseburgerrrrrrrrrrrrr
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00:38<tux>Hey people How do I shut down X and keep it down??? /etc/init.d/gdm stop is not working
00:40<tux>anyone??? how to shut down X???
00:41<simonrvn>quit your session first
00:42<tux>how?
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00:42<tux>logging out gives me an x based login?
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00:43<simonrvn>"log out"
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01:02<tux>Hmm... getting worse... this installer is now complaining that the compiler (gcc) is a different version from the one used to build the system. HOW do I find out the "name" of the current compiler??? so that I can set it as a "CC" environmental variable?
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01:05<Lantizia>hey ive noticed debby puts mysql logging to syslog - anyone knwo how i can increase the log level?
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01:14<simonrvn>only for certain things
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01:27<digitalzombie>Hi, I've just updated php 5.3 and I'm getting this warning: http://pastebin.com/S1WHzEGH help?
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01:30<reisio>that's a strange path
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01:30<reisio>digitalzombie: dpkg -L php-apc ?
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01:31<digitalzombie>hehe i just checked the package
01:31<reisio>?
01:31<digitalzombie>it's a broken depency
01:31<digitalzombie>i'm googling how to fix it ^^
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01:32<phorce1_home>is there a way to get debmirror to ignore locking status? My mirror directories are on a removable ntfs drive.
01:32<digitalzombie>this is what i got tho: http://pastebin.com/g5m6UKPn
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01:33<reisio>digitalzombie: doesn't look like as many files as a package should have
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01:36<digitalzombie>o
01:36<digitalzombie>so i have to purge it?
01:36<digitalzombie>and reinstall?
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01:38<digitalzombie>ah i can do apt-get --reinstall install php-apc
01:38<digitalzombie>thx u
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01:45<nteon>any reason my mit-scheme in sid is i386 only?
01:45<nteon>or, rather, where would I find that informatino
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01:49<devil>nteon: changelog says: * debian/mit-scheme-native.1: renamed to debian/mit-scheme-i386.1.
01:49<gsimmons>nteon: See Debian bug #365530.
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01:54<nteon>devil, gsimmons: thanks, that clears things up.
01:55<digitalzombie>reisio thx again, to fix it I just have to do a apt-get upgrade
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01:58<reisio>digitalzombie: worth doing regularly anyways
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02:00<digitalzombie>reisio: oops i spoke too soon. haha i found the real solution, http://constantshift.com/installing-apc-for-php-5-3/, tho thx again
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02:01<reisio>how convoluted
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04:25<cinch>mornin
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04:27<P3t3r>morning
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05:05<keyser>hello all
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05:06<P3t3r>hey keyser
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05:11<keyser>it is nice they allow the use of Tor on this server
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05:19<Blizakster>how do I delete an entire directory and its contents ?
05:20<icebrain>Blizakster: rm -rf dir ? But be careful
05:20<Blizakster>be careful ?
05:20<icebrain>if you type "dir /" instead of "dir/" under root...
05:20<icebrain>there goes /
05:20<Blizakster>oo
05:21<devil>anyone an idea how dpkg will list only apps from a certain repository? apt-query?
05:21<Blizakster>look at this then lol
05:21<Blizakster>I am in ~/urbanterror/ircbot$ I need to delete ~/urbanterror/ircbot/urt.webhop.biz directory
05:21<Blizakster>could I just type rm -rf urt.webhop.biz ?
05:21<icebrain>yeah, that should be fine
05:21<Blizakster>okay
05:21<Blizakster>thanks
05:22<Blizakster>This is kind of php / debian related
05:22<devil>or will dpkg -l | grep foo work? i cant quite figure it out
05:22<Blizakster>I am trying to set up a php bot and having issues with it in debian
05:22<Blizakster>more like I just dont understand the damn bot
05:23*Blizakster Likes hand holding some times
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05:23<icebrain>what's the problem? Not that I'm an expert in php bots :)
05:24<Blizakster>Not really sure yet
05:24<Blizakster>problem number 1
05:24<Blizakster>I cant make it run
05:24<Blizakster>lol
05:24<icebrain>what happens?
05:24<Blizakster>nothing
05:24<Blizakster>uhm
05:24<Blizakster>How do I
05:25<Blizakster>wget and entire directory ?
05:25<Blizakster>and all its contents
05:25<Blizakster>I did wget -m but it downloaded like the wrong stuff ? lol
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05:26<icebrain>-m is for ftp dirs, iirc
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05:26<Blizakster>oh
05:26<Blizakster>I am downloading from a http directory
05:26<Blizakster>I need to download
05:27<Blizakster>urt.webhop.biz/Phergie
05:27<Blizakster>the whole directory
05:27<Blizakster>doing everything from SSH hurts my brain :/
05:28<icebrain>I think you need -r (recursive)
05:28<Blizakster>ok
05:29<Blizakster>Seems to have worked :P
05:29<Blizakster>kind of >.>
05:30<Blizakster>I did wget -r urt.webhop.biz/phergie it gave me a urt.webhop.biz directory with phergie directory inside it
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05:33<devil>no idea on how to list packages just from one repo?
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05:39<felixs>devil: apt-cache policy <package> tells you something about which package (from where...) is installed
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05:39<devil>felixs: yes, but what i need is all packages from a certain repo
05:39<felixs>devil: all? thats easy. zless the Packages.gz file
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05:40<devil>felixs: uh, didnt think of that at all :) was only looking at dpkg
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05:57<Blizakster>lmao noob question here
05:57<Blizakster>how do I rename a file ?
05:57<Blizakster>rename dswpbot.cfg.examle dswpbot.cfg is not working
05:57<Nemoder>mv
05:57<Blizakster>mv ?
05:58<Blizakster>doesnt that move a file ?
05:58<Singo>renames it also
05:58<Blizakster>oh ok
05:59<Blizakster>theres a line in this cfg
05:59<Blizakster>7 db=tdmdb
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05:59<Blizakster>does that mean I have ot make a database for it ?
05:59<ansgar>Blizakster: I suggest reading the documentation?
05:59<Blizakster>doesnt come with any lol :P
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06:00<ansgar>Blizakster: Then ask whoever wrote it. Or replace it with something that has documentation.
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06:00<Blizakster>okay lol
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07:13<Blizakster>How do I copy a file from one dir to another ?
07:14<Singo>cp /home/test/file.txt /where/you/want/it.txt
07:14<Blizakster>ty
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07:29<Guest434>hi
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07:30<Guest434>hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
07:30<Guest434>hi singo
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07:35<cinch>is aptitude installed by default in lenny?
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07:35<cinch>or is it still apt-get
07:36<cinch>(with the minimum debootstrap)
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07:47<cthuluh>cinch: --variant=minbase doesn't give you aptitude
07:48<cinch>cthuluh: thanks for the info :)
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07:51<D3JAVU>hi all
07:52<D3JAVU>who can help me please
07:52<abrotman>ask an actual question and find out
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07:54<D3JAVU>when i tipe apt-get inst.. and press tab the comand install not shown whay ???
07:54<abrotman>in which version of debian?
07:54<D3JAVU>5
07:54<D3JAVU>i just install it now
07:55<cthuluh>because you don't have bash-completion, or you did not source /etc/bash_completion
07:55<D3JAVU>and what can i do for that ??
07:55<cthuluh>if you have the package installed, just type ''. /etc/bash_completion''
07:56<D3JAVU>I install debian 1 time . i use Ubuntu before and dont have any problem
07:58<cthuluh>why did you change, if you had no problems?
07:58<abrotman>that's because ubuntu dpes all that setup for you .. Debian isn't like that
07:58<D3JAVU>sorry i dont understand
07:58<cinch>D3JAVU: debian tries to keep things simple. :P
07:58<D3JAVU>now whot can i do ?
07:59<Arrowmaster>you type aptitude install bash-completion
07:59<cthuluh>well, your user _has_ access to bash comlpletion
07:59<cthuluh>not root
07:59<D3JAVU>ok ok just second
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08:01<Baerlauch>Hello, I moved a Debian system from one hard disk to another and now the permissions of some system folders/files are wrong. Can anybody tell me, which permissions /etc, /bin, and so on should have or where to find that information?
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08:02<D3JAVU>sorry when i tipe bash-completion was succssesful instali
08:03<D3JAVU>maybe at first i mast remove this ?
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08:05<cthuluh>no, D3JAVU
08:05<cahoot>Baerlauch: restoring messed up perms is more work then a reinstall
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08:05<cahoot>s/then/than/
08:06<cthuluh>D3JAVU: add ''[[ -f /etc/bash_completion ]] && . /etc/bash_completion'' in your root's .bashrc
08:06<D3JAVU>remove the autocomplite but now when i tipe apt-get ins and press tab its show me install . but in su not shown what its like that
08:07<Baerlauch>cahoot: Not in my case, since reinstalling means to struggle with some very annoying driver problems again
08:07<cahoot>Baerlauch: got the original still?
08:08<Baerlauch>cahoot: yes
08:08<cahoot>Baerlauch: how did you cp?
08:09<cahoot>rsync or cp -a?
08:09<cahoot>Baerlauch: IIRC cp -a keeps perms et al
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08:10<Baerlauch>cahoot: cp -r on all folders except proc and dev
08:10<cahoot>as does rsync
08:11<Arrowmaster>you dont want to copy sys either
08:12<Baerlauch>Arrowmaster: sys was empty iirc
08:13<Baerlauch>Anyway, I see, what I forgot
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08:18<Baerlauch>Nontheless: Is there a list of basic permissions somewhere? Recopying would still be very annoying.
08:19<Arrowmaster>no
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08:23<icebrain>if you rsync with -p, doesn't it update the permission without copying the files?
08:23<icebrain>(because they're already there)
08:24<D3JAVU>ppl . when i press tab button in simple user mod its show me command but when i press tub in super user mod it did not show any think
08:25<Baerlauch>icebrain: Thanks, I will look at that in a moment
08:26<icebrain>Baerlauch: I'm not sure if it does, probably best to try first with a small dir
08:28<Baerlauch>icebrain: Don't worry, by "looking at" I meant rsync's documentation concerning this
08:29<D3JAVU>peple please say something
08:29<icebrain>D3JAVU: did you do what cthuluh said?
08:30<icebrain>D3JAVU: have you inserted that line in the file /root/.bashrc ?
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08:40<giorgio>ciao
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08:41<manzhack>hi all
08:41<manzhack>I've a big issue
08:41<manzhack>anyone can help me?
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08:41<abrotman>are you going to ask your actual question?
08:42<manzhack>yes
08:42<manzhack>It's a problem with rsync
08:42<manzhack>I've a server
08:42<manzhack>that is a fileserver, that makes backups on an extractable HD
08:42<manzhack>when I do a rsync
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08:43<manzhack>it takes 100% of the CPU
08:43<giorgio>ciao
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08:43<abrotman>manzhack: it tends to do that
08:43<manzhack>and the task takes over 6 hours to finish
08:43<manzhack>yes ok
08:43<manzhack>It's no a problem, the CPU load
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08:44<manzhack>but the problem is that the backup starts @ 2h00
08:44<abrotman>how much data is it?
08:44<manzhack>and hasn't finished @ 9 o clock, when the enterprise is opening
08:44<manzhack>80Go
08:44<abrotman>what is the rsync command ?
08:44<manzhack>so samba client are VERY slow because of the CPU load
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08:45<manzhack>rsync -r -t /mnt/data /mnt/bck
08:45<ottoshmidt>hello is it possible to mount second hard drive as a normal user
08:45<abrotman>it can be, yes
08:45<ottoshmidt>so that it was read/write
08:45<abrotman>manzhack: have you checked for errors in the syslog?
08:45<cthuluh>manzhack: use nice to decrease rsync's priority
08:46<abrotman>that doesn't really solve it .. it shouldn't take that long to rsync 80Gb unless it's all changing every time
08:46<manzhack>I was looking for it, but I didn't find any log for rsync and/or cron
08:46<manzhack>juste 200Mo are changing per day
08:46<manzhack>not the totality of the data
08:46<cthuluh>manzhack: are you using usb 1.1? :P
08:46<abrotman>i meant like maybe drive errors in syslog or messages
08:46<ottoshmidt>I have been googling for an hour but couldn't find a solution, the drive is mounted read-only even if I put rw in fstab
08:47<manzhack>no
08:47<manzhack>lol
08:47<abrotman>ottoshmidt: ls -ld on the mount point
08:47<ottoshmidt>any clues?
08:47<ottoshmidt>abrotman, should drive be mounted?
08:47<manzhack>it's a IDE drive that you can extract
08:47<abrotman>doesn't have to be
08:48<manzhack>so I don't know how to backup very fast
08:48<ottoshmidt>abrotman, drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 31 14:46 .
08:48<manzhack>there is less than 300 files modified per days, compared to the 80k files that are present on the HD
08:48<ottoshmidt>it's in /media
08:49<abrotman>manzhack: it shouldn't take that long .. i rsync about that much with thousands of files changed per day, and it takes maybe 15 minutes
08:49<abrotman>and the system isn't that fast to begin with
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08:50<ottoshmidt>abrotman, if you mean i should do chmod 777 on that folder I already tried and subfolders stay read-only anyway
08:50<manzhack>the server is a P4 2.4 Ghz with 512 Mb of RAM
08:51<abrotman>ottoshmidt: what filesystem is the usb hdd ?
08:51<abrotman>manzhack: are you using swap when it compares ?
08:51<manzhack>with swap, what do you mean exactly?
08:51<ottoshmidt>abrotman, it's not usb hdd and it's ext4
08:51<abrotman>!am i swapping
08:51<dpkg>run "vmstat 3" and ignore the first 3 lines, if the "so" column is not 0s all the time you are swapping
08:52<abrotman>ottoshmidt: what is your kernel, uname -r
08:52<ottoshmidt>i run ext3 on current inst
08:52<ottoshmidt>it's 2.6.32-5-686
08:52<manzhack>abrotman: There is only 80Mb of ram used when I rsync
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08:53<abrotman>ottoshmidt: mount it, and then cat /proc/mounts
08:53<abrotman>erm ...
08:53<abrotman>type 'mount'
08:53<ottoshmidt>ok
08:54<manzhack>So abrotman, what I should to do?
08:54<abrotman>manzhack: did you look for hte errors in the syslog/messages ?
08:55<ottoshmidt>abrotman, http://debian.pastebin.com/9ntxu8py
08:55<manzhack>I will try to find that
08:55<abrotman>manzhack: they're in /var/log/
08:55<manzhack>logs are in var/log, right?
08:55<manzhack>ok
08:55<manzhack>thx
08:55<manzhack>I come back in few minutes
08:56<abrotman>ottoshmidt: i don't see anything there, does the error just say "permission denied" ?
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08:57<ottoshmidt>when i access with normal user
08:57<ottoshmidt>"You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "902b7da6-178a-436d-80b9-9fa6d412cf55"."
08:58<abrotman>ls -al /media/
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09:00<ottoshmidt>drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jul 31 16:59 .
09:00<ottoshmidt>drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Jul 31 14:21 ..
09:00<ottoshmidt>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 31 14:46 40GB
09:00<ottoshmidt>drwx------ 4 root root 4096 Jul 25 17:18 902b7da6-178a-436d-80b9-9fa6d412cf55
09:00<ottoshmidt>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jul 29 22:34 cdrom -> cdrom0
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09:00<ottoshmidt>what's the max lines to paste here?
09:00<ottoshmidt>http://debian.pastebin.com/gXuuvXML
09:01<Baerlauch>rsync could not do, what I was looking for, but icebrain's idea lead to the following promising link: http://serverfault.com/questions/58277/copy-permissions-to-identical-tree-on-linux-unix However when I run the script, it complains: "stat: can't read file system information for "%N:%Mp%Lp": file or folder not found".
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09:04<abrotman>ottoshmidt: you don't have perms .. it is rwx only for root
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09:04<ottoshmidt>and how do i mount with permissions?
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09:07<ottoshmidt>I try to put user id in fstab but kern gives error: "Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000""
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09:12<manzhack>re
09:12<manzhack>abrotman, I found nothing in /var/log/dmesg
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09:13<abrotman>i didn't say dmesg at all
09:14<manzhack>sorry
09:14<manzhack>which on so? ^^
09:14<abrotman>i said syslog and messages
09:14<manzhack>ok sorry
09:15<manzhack>Jul 30 02:53:23 Serveur-Agence kernel: [62643.432757] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
09:15<manzhack>Jul 30 02:53:23 Serveur-Agence kernel: [62643.432757] hdb: status error: status=0x00 { }
09:15<manzhack>
09:15<manzhack>bad thing no?
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09:16<abrotman>that's bad
09:17<manzhack>why? what's that?
09:18<manzhack>??
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09:20<abrotman>manzhack: usually indicates some part of that is dying
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09:21<manzhack>Ok, so I have to change the HD?
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09:23<abrotman>or something else is dying
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09:27<manzhack>abrotman: do you know if it's possible to don't checksum the file to synchronize, but just looking the date?
09:28<abrotman>manzhack: that won't help it go faster
09:28<manzhack>really? Because checksum need a lot of CPU, right?
09:31<manzhack>abrotman: Maybe I could use the cp command, no?
09:32<abrotman>the problem isn't your command, it's the hardware
09:33<manzhack>ok.... So I'll try to find a solution... Thank you very much
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09:44<icebrain>Blizakster:
09:44<icebrain>ops, sorry
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10:29<Ludwig>hello
10:29<edbian>hi
10:29<Ludwig>how are u
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10:31<edbian>I'm good, do you need help with Debian??
10:31<Ludwig>is here any russian speaking helper?
10:32<avu>!ru
10:32<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
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10:33<Ludwig>ok
10:34<Ludwig>and do u have armenian support
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10:47<LydiaDeetz>Hello
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10:48<LydiaDeetz>Fresh debian 5.0.5 install
10:48<LydiaDeetz>I just need smoeone to give me a good lists of repositories for APT
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10:50<LydiaDeetz>Anyone?
10:50<LydiaDeetz>I need a few source lists
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10:52<devil>for?
10:53<LydiaDeetz>Just the basic ones.A
10:53<LydiaDeetz>Also, I need contrib and nonfree ones :/
10:53<LydiaDeetz>I know, it's simple. I've done it before around a year ago
10:54<ansgar>!sources.list
10:54<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
10:54<devil>contrib and non-free are just added to the line you have
10:54<LydiaDeetz>Ah, right
10:54<LydiaDeetz>Thanks a bunch!
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11:29<Tniffoc>Why would I be getting "invalid mount option" errors when attempting to mount an secondary internal NTFS drive via the GNOME gui?
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11:37<Tniffoc>anybody?
11:37<Tniffoc>come on...
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11:38<moldovean>ntfs-3g
11:39<moldovean>!ntfs-3g
11:39<dpkg>hmm... ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance, packaged for Debian. Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>.
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11:39<moldovean>Tniffoc, /msg dpkg user accessible ntfs
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11:41<Tniffoc>moldovean, thanks
11:41<moldovean>yw
11:43<Tniffoc>is there a way to provide a mirror to apt-get at runtime?
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11:46<moldovean>put your mirrors in sources.list
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11:48<Tniffoc>moldovean, The thing is, I don't want this mirror to checked for anything but when I want it to. i.e. apt-get without a provided mirror will use sources.list and apt-get with some mirror option will check that mirror.
11:49<Tniffoc>Something to the effect of "apt-get install --mirror ftp.mymirror.net somepackage
11:50<moldovean>Tniffoc, /msg dpkg why aptitude
11:51<Tniffoc>oh
11:51<Tniffoc>thanks
11:51<Tniffoc>again
11:51<moldovean>Tniffoc, use -t , as aptitude -t lenny-backports blablah , lenny-backports needs to be in sources.list
11:53<moldovean>Tniffoc, /msg dpkg lenny-backports
11:55<moldovean>-t is targeted mirror used by aptitude for installing <packagename>
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13:08<Dodger>I have a java program that I wrote that spawns multiple processes. I'm looking to create a /etc/init.d script to start / restart it. What would be the best way to automatically kill all processes associated with this program?
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13:10<abrotman>there is a killall
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13:11<Dodger>and would I just do killall on java? That would also wipe out any other java processes that are running...
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13:12<abrotman>yes
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13:13<Dodger>it's an old machine that's only running this, so I guess that would work... seems like a pretty rough solution ("kill them all and let the kernel sort them out...")
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13:13<Dodger>thanks!
13:13<icebrain>Dodger: using ps -o ppid you can get the processes' parent PID
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13:13<icebrain>so log the original pid, and then kill all the child processes
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13:14<abrotman>if they're started from init, won't the PPID be init?
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13:14<Dodger>icebrain: yes, that's more the sort of thing that smells like the right solution. Would you by any chance have a pointer to an example of doing something like that?
13:14<icebrain>abrotman: he said there was one java process that spawned many others
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13:15<icebrain>Dodger: sorry, no
13:15<icebrain>I just search "find process children pids"
13:15<icebrain>*searched
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13:15<abrotman>you can pass them to pskill
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13:16<Dodger>thanks both of you, that looks like exactly what I wanted!
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13:16<icebrain>be careful killin' stuff :P
13:16<Dodger>:-) always good advice!
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13:26<esa_morenita>olaa
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13:26<esa_morenita>olaa
13:28<esa_morenita>alfrecasa
13:28<esa_morenita>olaa!
13:28<esa_morenita>no t konozko pero weno
13:28<esa_morenita>ajaja
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13:28<alfrecasa># ubuntu-it-chat
13:29<alfrecasa>ragazzi come faccio ad andare nella chat di ubuntu?
13:29<dondelelcaro>alfrecasa: /server irc.freenode.net; then /join #ubuntu-it
13:30<alfrecasa>grazie provo
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13:52<pe4nut>hi
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14:02<Mortvert>Hi :3
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14:08<Mortvert>I've recently installed inspircd - and now i'm searching for irc services - what ones do you reccomend?
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14:26<debnb>who can help me with instaling a radio server with control panel
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15:10<mantra>hello can somebody help me with gnupg, when I try to encrypt, it creates a .gpg file that is a few bytes, and a file called 'p' that contains the data
15:11<mantra>I cant decrypt the p file, and decrypting the .gpg file gives me the .tar that I encrypted, but I cant untar it
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15:14<bechampy>hi there, i am trying to get gnash to work but i get no sound. I have oss4 installed. When using oss4 from the repo, gnash, flash32 and flash64 have no sound. When using the oss4 deb from the opensound website, i have sound with flash64 but not with flash32 or gnash. Anybody got an idea how to solve this?
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15:23<youknowwho>maybe use alsa? I've just installed debian squeeze and gnash works perfectly
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15:33<youknowwho>anybody knows how can I watch html5 videos on epyphany?
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15:36<Blizakster>how do I view the permisions of a file ?
15:36<muep>Blizakster: ls -l path/to/file
15:36<Blizakster>thanks
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15:39<Blizakster>how do I change the permissions of a file ?
15:39<weasel>chmod
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15:39<Blizakster>so if I wanted it to be -rwxr-xr-x how would I do that ?
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15:40<weasel>I'm sure there's pleny of documentation.
15:40<Blizakster>okay
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15:41<locklace>!tell Blizakster about permissions
15:41<Blizakster>ty
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16:05<youknowwho>if I enable the html5 beta on youtube, videos still play in gnash, so how can I enable h.264 and webm suppport?
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16:08*smv decided that he has no other reasons to keep using the UnderNet. if, and only if, you do need him, you can find him on irc.geo.oftc.org under the same nickname.
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16:13*smv sorry for the last messages. didn't know it's working on all servers at the same time. :(
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18:31<edbian>Does debian have a keyring manager??
18:32<dondelelcaro>edbian: there are a few of them
18:32<richardk>gnome-keyring ?
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18:32<edbian>richardk, Thanks
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18:32<edbian>dondelelcaro, you too :)
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18:33<weasel>dondelelcaro: there are two. noodles and gwolf? :)
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18:39<dondelelcaro>weasel: heh
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18:55<NickyP>is the jigdo web site broken?
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18:56<maxineno>ola angel
18:57<maxineno>hay alguien
18:58<maxineno>eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
18:58<maxineno>olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
18:58<maxineno>no hay nadieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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19:09<blockowitsch>hello. is it possible to instruct debian to use tcp instead of udp for all dns queries?
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19:16<cthuluh>blockowitsch: why would you want that? 8)
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19:19<blockowitsch>for debugging purposes...i'm working on a tun device driver that redirects everything to a socks server...and socks4 can only handle tcp connections and no udp packets
19:20<blockowitsch>now my tun driver is able to redirect dns-udp requests to dns-tcp request...but something is not working correctly, so i would like to test it this way
19:20<cthuluh>see man 3 resolver
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19:21<cthuluh>you could also use a simple tool like dig or host
19:22<blockowitsch>using dns-tcp queries in C is no problem for me...
19:22<blockowitsch>the problem is that normal applications still perform udp queries
19:26<blockowitsch>lol...ok...just forget about it...i don't need it anymore...i had a line in my code for debugging that allowed only one dns query at once...
19:26<blockowitsch>but thanks anyway :D
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20:22<Blizakster>How do I run a php script and it sitll run when I close terminal ?
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20:22<cthuluh>you probably want nohup(1)
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20:23<Blizakster>huh ?
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20:24<icebrain>Blizakster: man nohup
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20:24<Blizakster>k
20:24<icebrain>or just use screen
20:24<Blizakster>I would prefure that
20:24<Blizakster>I just dont know how
20:24<jordanm>Blizakster: the (1) is to indicate that it is a user command. see man man for all of them
20:24<Blizakster>screen phergie.php ?
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20:25<jordanm>man 1 man specifically
20:25<icebrain>Blizakster: screen php phergie.php
20:25<Blizakster>oh okay
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20:26<icebrain>then ctrl+a,d to detach and screen -r to reattach
20:27<jordanm>-rd is often desirable, just in case you left your screen open elsewhere
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20:40<Blizakster>ok
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21:12<steve_>hi- is anyone here a computer scientist?
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21:48<pflanze>Hello. Youtube has changed the format of their video files somehow lately, now mplayer says "[flv @ 0x7f77fb4dd5e0]Unsupported video codec (7)"
21:48<pflanze>Has anyone found a solution? (^ that's mplayer from stable)
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22:04<jordanm>pflanze: usually flash player plays flv, not mplayer
22:04<pflanze>These are files fetched through youtube-dl, they are flash video not flash movie files.
22:05<pflanze>And till recently, mplayer was always able to play those. So youtube has changed their format.
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22:09<pflanze>Actually, in the meantime I've tested mplayer from unstable, and it works, too.
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22:09<pflanze>I mean: unlike the stable mplayer, it still works even for the new files.
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23:03<xjjk>pflanze: seems like you found a solution… but the problem/"bug" per-se is YouTube/
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23:04<xjjk>possible is to backport a patch to the stable version of mplayer, submit a bug and attach your patch
23:04<xjjk>possible better solution*
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23:07<pflanze>Hum, I doubt whether that warrants as an important enough "bug" to be released for stable?
23:07<pflanze>Exactly since it's not even a bug of mplayer.
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23:08<xjjk>yeh, I wouldn't bother doing anything
23:08<dondelelcaro>pflanze: you're better off using a backport, actually; or requesting one if one hasn't been made
23:09<xjjk>but the best thing to do is write a patch
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23:09<xjjk>dondelelcaro: I think mplayer is unlikely to get backported, a lot of things rely on it
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23:09<pflanze>xjjk: you're weird
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23:09<xjjk>pflanze: you're welcome? what was your question again if you already had an answer?
23:09<pflanze>I mean, best thing is to write a patch that nobody uses?
23:10<xjjk>pflanze: you write the patch
23:10<xjjk>debian maintainer applies to stable mplayer
23:10<xjjk>and it filters down to stable as an update
23:10<xjjk>pflanze: again, what are you asking?
23:10<dondelelcaro>xjjk: huh?
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23:10<pflanze>I said, " I doubt whether that warrants as an important enough "bug" to be released for stable?"
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23:10<pflanze>What I was asking is whether someone already knows a solution.
23:11<pflanze>I'm "happy enough" to know that the sid version works.
23:11<xjjk>you just said using a newer mplayer was a solution? were you looking for another one?
23:11<pflanze>I'm running sid in a chroot.
23:11<dondelelcaro>pflanze: yeah, you can either run it in a chroot, or backport the testing version (or ask for someone to backport it)
23:11<pflanze>You may say that I was too lazy not to just try sid before asking here :). But then I thought it was one of the proprietary formats for which it's going to be a hassle to install,
23:11<pflanze>so I figured asking was a good idea.
23:12<xjjk>
23:12<xjjk>this has gotten a bit pointless quick
23:12<xjjk>quickly*
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23:13<xjjk>but if you hypothetically care (I don't, and you don't), file a bug
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23:16<pflanze>Yeah, I don't care enough to do anything except when I knew a good solution and it would be useful for others if *I* did it.
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23:16<xjjk>thanks, I guess
23:16<Iridos>hey guys... what does one do with a wireless WEP "password", instead of the usual hex key? Can't find where the wireless stuff in interfaces is documented anymore either
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23:17<Iridos>jpinx-eeepc!
23:17<jpinx-eeepc>Iridos: !
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23:18<Iridos>can I just enter that WEP "password" like the usual hex key after wireless_key?
23:19<Iridos>it's got all kinds of quotes and weird characters in it, though
23:19<Iridos>guess doesn't hurt to try...
23:19<pflanze>check man iwconfig
23:20<jpinx-eeepc>if there's odd characters you might have to escape them
23:20<Iridos>no, it should be in "man interfaces", I thought, but the wireless stuff is separate
23:20<pflanze>there's this s:... thingie. I never quite got to the point of understanding when to apply which, and then WPA got common.
23:20<pflanze>Iridos: man iwconfig explains what the format of the key is.
23:21<pflanze>since, afaik, ifup will just feed wireless_key to iwconfig as -key
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23:24<Iridos>hm, "passphrase is currently not supported" and I can use s:<key> or the hex equivalent
23:24<Iridos>guess I try hex
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23:31<Iridos>hm, no
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23:31<Iridos>but thanks, I'm closer now
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23:33<Iridos>and it's really just the hex equivalent
23:33<Iridos>but it doesn't associate...
23:34<Iridos>perhaps there's a mac restriction he didn't tell me about
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23:44<Iridos>ha! had to give the channel!
23:44<Iridos>there we go
23:44<Iridos>pflanze: thanks, had forgotten all that wireless stuff
23:46<Iridos>or where to read on it
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23:52<jdstroy>Salutations.
23:52<Guest501>salute
23:52<jdstroy>I'm here to report a "bug" in Debian Live at boot.kernel.org
23:52<jdstroy>Am I at the right place?
23:54<jdstroy>Nope, looks like not. Found a better contact for this.
23:54<jdstroy>Cheers.
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