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00:46<tr31n0rd>buenas
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00:48<tr31n0rd>alguna equivalencia para bash de esto en perl: $variable=~s/texto_a_buscar/texto_a_modificar/g;
00:48<tr31n0rd>?
00:48<smv>!es
00:48<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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00:59<student>hi
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00:59<student_>hi
00:59<student>kaisa hai vaibhav
00:59<student_>bas bhai kaise kiya
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01:00<student_>ke bhai
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01:00<student_>ke bhai
01:00<student__>aur gaandui
01:00<student_>ke haal hn
01:00<student>bas bhai gaand mara rahe hain
01:00<student__>masti mai
01:00<student_>abe sab apni gand mat marao
01:00<student__>chut maroo
01:00<student__>aaj
01:00<student>:P
01:00<student__>movie dekne chalte hai
01:01<student_>iski to maka
01:01<student_>are bhai sumit teri gand kyun sukh ri h
01:01<smv>!en
01:01<dpkg>The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de
01:01<student_>kahan gaya be
01:01<student>hahahhahahaha
01:01<student>hi all is any1 here
01:01<student_>hahahah lolz
01:01<student__>sumant cahl raha hai movie dekhne
01:02<student_>vaibhav says teri ma ka
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01:35<twb>So I was reading the paper on libcap, a kind of restricted set-uid bit.
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01:35<twb>It's first example changes /bin/ping from being setuid to cap_net_raw=ep, and I find that this Just Works.
01:35<twb>Why, then, is Debian still using setuid?
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02:08<omeddragon>when is the debian 6 coming ou t
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02:09<the-dude>omeddragon: when it is ready :)
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02:12<devil>omeddragon: to maybe get some hints you might want to watch http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/662.en.html today
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02:36<bababum>hi
02:37<bababum>i want to install samba and i get a security warning at aptitude install
02:37<bababum>about "libtalloc1"
02:37<bababum>it says "warning: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!"
02:37<bababum>should i continue or what?
02:38<bababum>anybody around guys?
02:39<jm_>no
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02:40<amanita>bababum: maybe you have missing pgp keys, or you use "experimental" depositories in your sources.list?
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02:42<bababum>i have volatile
02:42<bababum>should i comment those?
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02:42<jm_>it's your system, you decide
02:42<bababum>i'm newbie
02:42<bababum>so i don't know
02:42<amanita>bababum volatile is ok
02:43<bababum>this is in /etc/apt/sources.list
02:43<bababum>is there other file i should look in?
02:43<jm_>apt-cache policy libtalloc1 will show you where it's coming from
02:43<amanita>bababum: just install samba later you can remove it if something goes terribly wrong.
02:43<jm_>note that volatile has its own key so make sure it's available
02:44<bababum>how do i make sure it's available?
02:44<jm_>start with the above apt-cache policy command, follwed by apt-key list
02:44<bababum>seems to come fro lenny/main
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02:45<jm_>do you have debian-archive-keyring installed?
02:45<bababum>i don't know...
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02:52<bababum>i think the keyring thingy is installed
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02:52<bababum>i run dpkg -l debian-... and it gets listed below some cryptic stuff (table header?)
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02:54<jm_>i think you should read some newbie guides first
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02:56<craigevil>apt-cache policy debian-archive-keyring will tell you if is installed and what version
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02:56<bababum>ty
02:56<bababum>installed 2009.01.31
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03:04<hdtdi>hi :) i installed debian and kde.. but i have no sound.. now someone told me to remove all arts esound and stuff and install alsa.. but when i try to remove arts it removes the whole kde
03:06<jm_>you can just disable arts instead of removing it
03:06<s_i_m>hdtdi, first check that the sound is not muted. run alsamixer
03:07<hdtdi>s_i_m, i dont have alsamixer (chuckle) .. yesterday someone told me which packages i should install but i reinstalled debian :S
03:07<hdtdi>and now i am in square 1
03:07<jm_>impressive
03:08<hdtdi>i remember alsa-base alsa-oss alsa-core (i think..)
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03:09<cahoot>if you have a kernel you have alsa
03:10<uldics>Can somebody help me with k3b not being able to burn CDs? It throws error 255 from both mkisofs and cdrecord? Though I have no idea, why it sometimes takes the one or the other. Cant burn with k3b from root, regular user is in cdrom group.
03:10<diego>hi, I have a lot of programs running redirecting the output to different files (all programs are the same) , like ./program >file1 ; ./program >file2 ...
03:10<diego>I need to kill all of them but the one redirecting to file1
03:10<diego>and ps ax does not show the >file* part
03:10<diego>any way to know ?
03:10<s_i_m>cahoot, that was rather bold statement...
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03:11<diego>I need to see the end of the one redirecting to file1 only, I dont care the rest, they are killing my cpu
03:11<s_i_m>learn pkill
03:11<cahoot>s_i_m: assuming he runs debian
03:11<diego>I run debian
03:11<hdtdi>cahoot, http://pastebin.com/8xHVcu4w
03:12<diego>I just need to know which process redirects to which file to kill that id
03:12<diego>ps ax does not show the full command line
03:12<s_i_m>diego, man pkill
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03:13<cahoot>hdtdi: alsa is part of debian kernels, you might need some extras for mixer, alsa-utils should be in place
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03:14<diego>I run pkill file24 and it does not kill any process
03:14<diego>I know I ran "./program >file24"
03:15<diego>(run from 0 to 24)
03:15<hdtdi>cahoot, then why when i aptitude install alsa it asks me if i really want to install it
03:15<jm_>> foo won't show as an argument, but you can find it via /proc/<PID>/fd dir
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03:15<cahoot>because you already have basic alsa in place?
03:16<diego>thanks jm_
03:16<Vivek>How do i upgrade from squeeze to sid ?
03:16<bababum>how can i update de aptitude keys?
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03:16<jm_>bababum: I already told you to check 'apt-key list' output first
03:16<Vivek>Do I just need to change the testing entries to unstable and do an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
03:16<bababum>i did
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03:17<jm_>so check if the missing key is mentioned by apt-key
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03:17<bababum>it shows me some pub and uid rows with codes. one appears expired (Debian archive automatic sygning key 4.0 etch - but i have lenny installed)
03:18<diego>jm_: oops, I actually run ./program >file$i for i from 0 to 24 ... to its showing file$i :S, any idea
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03:19<bababum>what missing key? i sun aptitude install, gives that warning but sais nothing about any key?
03:19<s_i_m>diego, there is lsof also
03:19<jm_>diego: try ls -l /proc/*/fd|grep file
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03:20<jm_>the debian archive key if the package is coming from there
03:20<bababum>i don't get it :(
03:21<bababum>can u tell me what commands to run?
03:21<diego>jm_: nice, symlink
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03:21<diego>I can do with that
03:21<diego>thanks!
03:22<jm_>apt-key list and look for 1024D/F42584E6, 4096R/55BE302B and 2048R/6D849617
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03:24<bababum>they are all there
03:24<bababum>jm_ all keys are listed
03:24<wacumura>hii room saya baru pertama kali masuk room ini jadi mohon bibingannya :D
03:25<jm_>bababum: then try apt-get update and retry installation
03:25<bababum>already did
03:25<bababum>no success
03:25<bababum>did upgrade and update
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03:26<jm_>then paste the output of your apt* install run on some pastebin, together with apt-cache policy
03:26<bababum>"aptitude install" or "aptitude install run" ?
03:27<jm_>apt* install pkg1 pkg2 ...
03:27<bababum>ok
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03:28<twb>jm_: I only recently found you could run "apt-cache policy" without an argument
03:28<twb>Made life much easier
03:29<jm_>twb: does it also list any specific entries, say for a single package?
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03:32<bababum>jm_ http://pastebin.com/Yc83kMrC
03:32<jm_>bababum: can you also post apt-cache policy libtalloc1
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03:33<bababum>could this be the problem: http://ftp.ro.debian.org/
03:33<bababum>it returns 404 error
03:33<wacumura>how to install chat paket in the server ?? (bababum)
03:34<bababum>wacumura: what?
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03:34<bababum>jm_ http://pastebin.com/fapmPXtM
03:35<Vivek>How do I upgrade from Debian Squeeze to Debian Sid ?
03:35<wacumura>can help me for install my server Chating how Package ?? (bababum)
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03:35<bababum>i'm a newbie man
03:36<wacumura>it's no problem
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03:37<bababum>wacumura: why are you sending me a file?
03:38<kenyon>!tell Vivek about sid upgrade
03:39<Vivek>kenoby:
03:39<Vivek><dpkg> kenyon wants you to know: Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use <stable> or <testing> instead. See also <sid upgrade test>.
03:39<amanita>vivek: very true vivek
03:39<wacumura>i want test sending file for you i sorry :)
03:39<jm_>bababum: this makes no sense to me - does it also warn about other packages? are samba and samba-common also coming from ftp.ro.debian.org?
03:40<Vivek>Let me put in across this way, I am attending mini debconf 9 in pune and I need Debian Unstable.
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03:40<Lethalman>I suggest people using sid for desktop rather than testing and to do few upgrades
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03:41<Lethalman>and until now it's always been the best choice
03:41<Vivek>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIndia/MiniDebConf2010
03:41<Vivek>I understand the truth of it amanita :)
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03:42<amanita>Vivek: I use Debian Lenny and I don't care about application version numbers. And lenny IS stable
03:42<Vivek>We have a packaging session there and for which I need to get Debian Unstable.
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03:42<bababum>jm_ yes all from .ro
03:42<bababum>should i edit sources list and use other mirror?
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03:43<Vivek>I am currently using Debian testing and would like to upgrade to Unstable. I hope upgrade is the appropriate word.
03:43<Vivek>!tell vivek sid upgrade test
03:43<amanita>Is there a way to use skype chat in Ekiga?
03:43<wacumura>everyone can help me >?? > HOW PACKAGE TO INSTALL CHAT SERVER WITH DEBIAN 4 :(
03:43<cthuluh>...
03:44<Vivek>amanita: I deliberately don't want stable :)
03:44<amanita>wacumura what is the name of the chat server?
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03:44<amanita>vivek: try ubuntu then? It is basically a sid.
03:45<amanita>vivek: and unstable too :-D
03:45<Vivek>amanita: I need it for tommorows mini deb conf
03:45<Vivek>amanita: I don't want to use ubuntu.
03:45<wacumura>FOR USE THI CHATING
03:45<zobel>wacumura: sed -e "s/etch/lenny/" /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install ircd-hybrid
03:45<jm_>bababum: this is odd, I would expect it to warn about other packages too then
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03:48<kenyon>Vivek: sed -i 's/testing/sid/' /etc/apt/sources.list && aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade
03:48<wacumura>thakyu (zobel)
03:48<Vivek>kenoby: ok.
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03:48<Vivek>kenoby: Thanks for that pointer.
03:49<zobel>why full-upgrade instead of dist-upgrade?
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03:50<kenyon>because there is no dist-upgrade
03:50<devil>Vivek: nice schedule and lot of attendees. have fum wirh your mini-debconf
03:50<devil>fun, even
03:50<zobel>kenyon: well, apt (instead of aptitude) has IMHO the better dependency-resolver
03:51<Vivek>devil: ok, Thanks.
03:51<kenyon>!apt
03:51<dpkg>[APT] Advanced Packaging Tool, a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/apt-system-diagram/
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03:53<amanita>Any idea if Ekiga softphnoe can deal with Skype text-only chat?
03:53<amanita>As all my friends use Skype for text-chatting :-P
03:54<Vivek>devil: btw, I am Vivek Varghese Cherian, http://www.vivekcherian.com
03:54<amanita>Hullo Vivek
03:55<Vivek>amanita: hey wazzup ?
03:55<Vivek>:)
03:55<Vivek>lol
03:55<bababum>it is working now
03:55<bababum>im so f****** pissed here. spent an hour because of an offline mirror
03:56<devil>Vivek: i organized a mini-debconf embedded in LinuxTag in Berlin in June, lots of work and fun
03:57<jm_>bababum: ahh I see, it would help if apt would tell where it's trying to install untrustued packages from
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04:00<Vivek>devil: I will be doing that next year in Mumbai.
04:00<dragon_>any recommendation for an filesystem when using crypt-luks ? i had massive performance drops from ext4 > xfs (both encrypted)
04:01<dragon_>copying files*
04:01<kenyon>performance drops compared to what?
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04:01<dragon_>system almost froze while copying
04:02<ekai125>HI.. anybody know the command to change architecture dpkg?
04:02-!-wacumura [~wacumura@110.137.5.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:02<ekai125>coz in my debian, dpkg is not detect as i368
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04:03<ekai125>so i've got problem when i want to install application
04:03<ekai125>i need to use --force-architecture command n need to install one by one
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04:04<kenyon>ekai125: I would reinstall the whole system with the correct architecture
04:05<jmarsden>ekai125: What does uname -m say you are running on?
04:05<ekai125>uname -m
04:05<ekai125>i686
04:06<kenyon>!what's my architecture
04:06<dpkg>dpkg --print-architecture
04:06<kenyon>what does that command say/
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04:07<ekai125>nothing appear
04:07<kenyon>you have a pretty messed up system
04:07<wacumura>how to rum the MRC after that install with teminal ??? (ples help )
04:07<ekai125>is there any method to defrag my file system?
04:08<kenyon>ekai125: why would you want to do that?
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04:09<ekai125>maybe it will help sort n restore in previous condition
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04:09<kenyon>ekai125: no
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04:13<wacumura>how to rum the iRCd after that install with teminal ??? (ples help )
04:13<kenyon>wacumura: sudo service ircd start
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04:14<wacumura>OK kenyon
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04:15<kenyon>wacumura: /msg bots NOT people
04:16<wacumura>yes
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04:18<wacumura>some bady indonesia pople iin here ??? because my english no good
04:18<wacumura>some body indonesia pople iin here ??? because my english no good
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04:20<kenyon>!id
04:20<dpkg>rumour has it, id is 1d3nt1f1c4t10n. Indonesia 3-letter: idn; countrycode #: 360, or #debian-id
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04:21<wacumura>thankyu brodther
04:21<twb>DeviceVM makes linux-based images that put an entire app-oriented root filesystem in the ramdisk.
04:21<wacumura>no body in this room (dpkg)
04:22<twb>I want to do this, too -- in Debian.
04:22<twb>Anybody know if initramfs-tools can be tricked into generated a bunch of different ramdisks?
04:22<wacumura>ok thans all for the informasion ... bey :D:D:D
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04:28<twb>Looks like I can do it with mkinitramfs -d /etc/initramfs-tools-<app>/
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07:02<victor>how can I start a program at a specific time? for example, i want to make mplayer to play some music in 5 min.
07:03<cahoot>man atd
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07:04<victor>cahoot, could you please type an example for me/
07:04<victor>?
07:04<cahoot>https://calomel.org/cron_at.html
07:04<ssb>at 8:00 DISPLAY=:0 mplayer ~/alarm.mp4
07:04<jm_>echo mplayer porn_music.avi | at now + min
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07:05<cahoot>porn music?
07:05<ssb>sorry, [ENTER] after 8:00
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07:05<victor>Thank you.
07:05<jm_>it should say now +5 min
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07:10<victor>ssb, I typed your commands into xterm. atq shows nothing.
07:10<weasel>sleep 5m && mplayer foo
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07:10<ssb>weasel, that's what I use daily ;)
07:10<victor>there is a "job 9 at Fri Aug 6 19:06:00 2010" after <EOT>
07:11<weasel>ssb: something like that used to be my alarm clock :)
07:12<ssb>yeah
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07:14<victor>"sleep" is fine when the time is not required to be exact.
07:15<weasel>erm
07:15<weasel>that doesn't make any sense
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07:15<victor>weasel, why?
07:15<weasel>there's nothing inexact about sleep
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07:16<victor>ssb, have you tried the that at example on your machine? It does not work here, in spite of the Enter.
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07:16<victor>weasel, what if i want to run mplayer on Aug 8, at 19:03?
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07:17<johnedy>hello ubuntu
07:17<victor>jm_, have you tried the that at example on your machine? It does not work here.
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07:17<weasel>victor: then I'd sleep for 2 days, 5 hours and 45 minutes and 25 seconds
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07:18<victor>weasel, that's tedious.
07:18<ssb>victor, victor seems to work
07:18<ssb>s/ victor/
07:18<weasel>it works. and it's really not hard since usually you don't have that kind of requirement.
07:18<jm_>victor: yes, it works fine
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07:19<ssb>!work
07:19<dpkg>i heard work is a great place to play network games like Quake against your friends..... an improper way of saying funzionirt! Work at what? Do the dishes? Clean your room? , or see <play> =-)
07:19<ssb>not that
07:19<ssb>!don't work
07:19<dpkg>Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>.
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07:20<victor>do i have to run at as a super user?
07:21<jm_>not normally no, unless you edited /etc/at.allow
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07:25<victor>http://sharetext.org/9F7H
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07:26<victor>jm_, that is the link to the result of your example.
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07:27<victor>http://sharetext.org/AMRZ
07:27<victor>ssb, that is the link to the result of your example.
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07:28<gaozm>/
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07:30<ssb>victor, that's correct output
07:31<victor>but mplayer doest not play.
07:31<victor>without at, it plays.
07:31<jm_>victor: ahh I didn't try it with mplayer - it's probably because it wants a tty
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07:33<ssb>works here with mplayer
07:34<victor>ssb, what is the "DISPLAY=:0" for ?
07:34<victor>is it necessary for audio files?
07:35<ssb>victor, it tells mplayer where your X is running for video output
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07:36<jm_>but using xterm -e ... it plays fine
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07:40<victor>jm_, http://sharetext.org/FKVY
07:41<victor>following your suggestion, I got a new mail in /var/mail
07:41<jm_>victor: yeah, like I said I suspect it's because it wants a tty or whatever, echo xterm -display :0.0 -e 'mplayer -really-quiet /tmp/file.ogg' | at now + 1 min
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07:45<Karthick>hi all am a newbie..
07:45<Karthick>can anyone tell me how to restrict the usb mount automatically...
07:46<Karthick>i check /etc/fstab file but it has only entries of mountpoints only for cdrom & floppy
07:46<Karthick>:(
07:47<victor> jm_ your method worked, thank you.
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07:53<s_i_m>Karthick, what do you mean by restricting the usb mount automatically?
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07:57<sangi>s_i_m, the usb should not get mounted automatically when it is pluggen in
07:57<sangi>*plugged
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08:02<Faelp>oi tem auguem br ai?
08:03<locklace>!br
08:03<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
08:03<Faelp>ok
08:03<s_i_m>sangi, that is done by your desktop environment with the help of HAL (if you are on lenny) or devicekit (if you are on testing).
08:03<s_i_m>here i do not have any of these things
08:04<Faelp>ei vc sabe se tem um canal backtrack br?
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08:04<s_i_m>i use a combo of udev + autofs
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08:06<jm_>!tell Faelp -about bt4
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08:06<jm_>hehe same here, udev creates /dev/usbdisk and autofs mounts it
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08:07<Faelp>yes bt4
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08:08<Faelp>what you know about BT4?
08:09<Faelp>jm_
08:09<s_i_m>hm, sangi quit, but I found some hints for him... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30501
08:11<jm_>Faelp: please read what dpkg told you about bt4, it's off-topic in #debian
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08:12<twb>Where is /etc/apt/vendors.list.d/ documented?
08:12<twb>apt.conf(5) mentions it in passing.
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08:17<s_i_m>jm_, what do you do if more than 1 usb disk is attached? =)
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08:18<jm_>s_i_m: I don't have such case happening
08:18<s_i_m>i see =)
08:19<s_i_m>well, in my case its rather different
08:19<jm_>but yeah, i thought about that (i.e. use similar idea as is done for /dev/cdrom*)
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08:22<Karthick>s_i_m sorry for late(went out), and thanks yes the link is very useful to me..
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08:23<s_i_m>in my setup, udev creates links in /media which point to /var/autofs/udev/<key>. I also have an executable autofs map that sees the <key>, uses blkid to get some info about the device, and supplies the mount options to automounter that mounts it.
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08:24<jm_>yeah I used executable map too, but then switched back to regular since I didn't need so much flexibility
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08:27<s_i_m>Karthick, that is okay. (why did I mention sangi there? hm)
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08:32<Karthick>s_i_m but when i try to turn off the "browse media when inserted' in nautilus-> edit -> preferences->media tab
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08:32<Karthick>it only not opens & shows the content in the usb but the usb get mounted automatically
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08:34<s_i_m>Karthick, read further the post on that link
08:34<s_i_m>they discuss exactly that
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08:35<Karthick>oh :( am bit haste i will go through s_i_m
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08:36<s_i_m>you need post by Michael Spencer on 2008-04-28
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08:44<Karthick>Thanks s_i_m it works
08:44<Karthick>not auto-mountin now..
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09:07<ekai125>hi
09:07<ekai125>anybody has encounter this problem http://debian.pastebin.com/4dLNuChb
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09:09<jordanm>ekai125: what is your arch?
09:09<ekai125>what you mean jordan?
09:10<ekai125>sorry i'm newbie so don't know what that mean
09:10<jordanm>ekai125: are you running i386
09:10<ekai125>yes i'm
09:11<jordanm>ekai125: paste the output of "file /bin/ls"
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09:11<ekai125>bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped
09:13<jordanm>ekai125: alright, so how did you break it?
09:14<ekai125>i don't know what i'm doing wrong, since last night i've keep get this error.
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09:17<ekai125>not only this application i can't install, other app seem like this error
09:18<jordanm>ekai125: yes, you have broken dpkg
09:18<ekai125>how did i repair broken dpkg?
09:18<jordanm>ekai125: no idea, never seen that before
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09:19<jordanm>my only assumption is that you have deleted a file you shouldn't have, or were trying to do multi-arch stuff that was not supported
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09:19<jordanm>I have no idea where dpkg detects the system's architecture, but yours is apparently set to null
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09:45<ekai125>y i got lag video when play 720p, while i'm not having problem in windows
09:45<ekai125>?
09:45<rsteig>having a problem upgrading my system "run-parts: failed to stat component /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub: No such file or directory" full output is at http://paste.debian.net/82386/
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09:51<Maulkin>For reference, squeeze is frozen
09:52<dondelelcaro>Maulkin: everyone who is awake is in the room, apparently. ;-)
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09:53<route66rj>someone uses bugzilla ?
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10:17<Mr_Queue>Squeeze is frozen.... Nice.
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10:36<DAvidou>#beagle
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10:42<dominique>Hi! I have debian Lenny 5.05 with 2.6.26 kernel. I installed the 2.6.32 kernel from bpo. But I'm not able to switch between the two kernels freely as they require me to reinstall the NVidia non-free Drivers. Is there a way to have two versions of the driver installed and program the kernel to boot its respective version?
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10:47*kop is reminded of /msg dpkg binary-only drivers
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10:52<salahuddin>dominique: I have installed nvidia non-free drivers for two kernels, but it was using module-assistant.
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11:02<_BRETT_>anybody got a smoothwall server?
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11:03<kop>!ask
11:03<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:03<braindump>looking for a way to examine memory use after a server has frozen and has to be restarted
11:03<braindump>want to find out what was in memory and how much it was using etc before the crash
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11:04<_BRETT_>i would like to have an ftp server running on smoothwall
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11:05<_BRETT_>i heard that addons can be downloaded for smoothwall but i can't find one that does ftp
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11:06<_BRETT_>or is there another distribution with more features?
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12:15<OkropNick>hi all. how can I install grub-md5-crypt in debian 5.0.5 ? I can't find any package containing this program. thanks in advance
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12:18<pinger_>OkropNick: package grub, it's contain /usr/sbin/grub-md5-crypt
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12:19<icebrain>!apt-file
12:19<dpkg>hmm... apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file or list files in a package even if it's not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regexp; see man apt-file). You can also search online; ask me about <pdo> <auto-apt> <dlocate>
12:19<OkropNick>icebrain: thank you and all others for hints
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12:30<AzaToth>I'm getting following error when trying to upgrade (actually and -f install): http://paste.debian.net/82393/
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12:31<AzaToth>anyone has an hint what I can do to resolve this?
12:31<sKeith>i have two identical hard disks in a machine, one called sdc and the other sdd, one being part of a lv the other being spare. is there any way I can id (physcialy), so I can remove the empty one and not the 1 thats a member of the lv.
12:31<AzaToth>here is the full output: http://paste.debian.net/82394/
12:32<AzaToth>sKeith: the only thing I can think of is to spin down one of them and listen who spins down
12:32<s_i_m>AzaToth, it is most likely due to a recent change in dpkg. You run testing?
12:33<AzaToth>s_i_m: sid mostly
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12:33<AzaToth>s_i_m: I know, it's up to me to fix it due to me using unstable, though I though starting asking here before I dig way too deep
12:34<s_i_m>okay, then as a workaround simply edit /var/lib/dpkg/available by hands and remove _03-1 from the version string
12:34<AzaToth>s_i_m: yea
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12:34<AzaToth>is _ not valid any more?
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12:35<s_i_m>was never valid
12:35<AzaToth>ah
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12:36<AzaToth>s_i_m: ah, it's an really old entry from like 7 years ago
12:36<AzaToth>an alien package actually
12:36<AzaToth>wonder why it's still there...
12:36<sKeith>how do i spin down sdd?
12:36<gsimmons>sKeith: Use pvs/pvdisplay to determine which of the devices is being used for the volume group (associated with the logical volume).
12:37<sKeith>i know sdc is part of lv, sdd is free
12:37<AzaToth>s_i_m: http://paste.debian.net/82395/
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12:37<sKeith>i used system-config-lvm to make it that way
12:37<AzaToth>s_i_m: can I somehow purge all info of packages that doesn't exists?
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12:38<AzaToth>i.e. can I remove the available file and regenerate it, or is it semistatic?
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12:39<AzaToth>I don't know why a package I created via alien and used once for like seven years ago is still there...
12:39<braindump>bc you never removed it?
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12:39<s_i_m>AzaToth, man dpkg
12:40<braindump> I have a setup where md0 is showing 100% use and don't see why that is so or how to fix it. Looking for suggestions how to repair.
12:40<braindump>all the volume groups look fine but / is showing 100% full
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12:41<braindump>all the other groups have their own mount point (ie var, home, tmp, etc)
12:41<AzaToth>s_i_m: it is not registered as installed, neither it is available from anywhere
12:41<s_i_m>AzaToth, man dpkg
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12:41<AzaToth>ah
12:41<AzaToth>--forget-old-unavail
12:42<AzaToth>dpkg: warning: obsolete '--forget-old-unavail' option, unavailable packages are automatically cleaned up.
12:42<dpkg>AzaToth: what are you talking about?
12:42<AzaToth>...
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12:42<AzaToth>clear-avail then
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12:43<braindump>just looking for a suggestion as to where to start to figure out what has filled up / since it's only a 1G partition with nothing on it
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12:44<braindump>it doesn't even have /boot which is mounted on a different physical drive
12:44<sKeith>anyone know difference between 'hdparm -y' and 'hdparm -Y' (put in standby mode vs send to sleep)
12:45<braindump>sleep is a deeper mode like hibernation, saves state to disk iirc?
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12:46<@RichiH>noooo
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12:47<AzaToth>RichiH: noooo?
12:48<sKeith>thanks braindump. thats what i'll run then.
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12:48-!-mode/#debian [-o RichiH] by RichiH
12:48<RichiH>better
12:48<duber>yep
12:48*AzaToth thinks topic is WAY too long
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12:49<RichiH>AzaToth: about half of it is pretty much static, the other half news-driven
12:49<RichiH>but yah, it is long
12:49<AzaToth>RichiH: update the streams urls to us bit.ly
12:50<AzaToth>some chars shorter than tinyurl
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12:50<braindump>sKeith: if you rtfm it clearly indicates standby = spin down and sleep = power off
12:50<braindump>the latter requires a reset
12:50<braindump>to wak
12:50<braindump>er wake
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12:51<RichiH>AzaToth: the ogv links might break as it does not pass through mime types
12:52<RichiH>the FAQ link would not be much shorter, but illegible
12:52<AzaToth>http://bit.ly/dhqg0U
12:53<RichiH>qed ;)
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12:54<AzaToth>Lenny (5.0.5) /msg dpkg 5.0.5 | etch no longer on mirrors: /msg dpkg etch->lenny | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | FAQ: http://bit.ly/cirzBw | DebConf live streams: http://bit.ly/dhqg0U and http://bit.ly/b2QfB0 | Squeeze has been frozen: http://bit.ly/b9gA5c
12:54<AzaToth>there
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12:55<doomcup>I need some help with debian ppc
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12:55<doomcup>Apparently the install didn't go well and I can't boot into it
12:55<icebrain>AzaToth: reduced URLs are the devil :|
12:55<gsimmons>doomcup: You might be better served in #debianppc.
12:55<doomcup>Ah, thanks
12:55<doomcup>I'll go ask there
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12:56<icebrain>might as well put a factoid and tell people to ask dpkg
12:56<AzaToth>icebrain: http://bit.ly/DEBFAQ then :-P
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12:57<AzaToth>RichiH: you you signup to bit.ly you can customize the links
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13:00<RichiH>AzaToth: can they be changed once they have been created?
13:01<AzaToth>yes
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13:02<Pasquale>hello, i tried to install debian testing, squeeze, however the installer freezes at the language selection, in the first step, anybody knows what this could be or how could i solve the problem ?
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13:04<Pasquale>anyone?
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13:06<RichiH>AzaToth: i fear shortening will break media players do to mime type mismatch so i won't shorten those
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13:08<burst_error>i just did apt update, and it said there was a new package available for me. i closed my term an tidied some work i was doing. but when i ran 'upgrade' nothing happened. why is apt holding out on me?
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13:08<AzaToth>RichiH: they worked for me
13:09<AzaToth>RichiH: though actually, does they need to be directly in the topic?
13:09<AzaToth>can't they be linked from a wiki page?
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13:30<oracle>whois oracle
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13:32<n4v4r3d>hi all
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13:38<sKeith>i couldn't tell which disk was spinning down, tried spinning it up and down to detect which one it was, couldnt do it. so i disconnected one of them, the one which from spin up + down i suspected most. on bootup i go superdisk error and single user mode, immediatly turned off and swapped disks. booted up perfectly with spare disk out. so, spinning up and down couldn't id it for me.
13:39<RichiH>AzaToth: i did not add them so i'd rather not remove them. also, they are highly topical and limited in time, so...
13:39<AzaToth>so
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13:44<xumtkm>看不懂
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13:45<xumtkm>太乱了
13:45<s_i_m>!cn
13:45<dpkg>well, cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
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13:51<Nazcafan>I qot a warning concerning /etc/init.d/networking restart
13:51<Nazcafan>s/qot/got
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13:51<Nazcafan>they say it is deprecated
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13:52<Nazcafan>so how am I supposed to proceed, from now on?
13:52<Nazcafan>should I just stop && start ?
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13:53<AzaToth>Nazcafan: good question
13:53<s_i_m>Nazcafan, well, pray that the desktop party at Debian will miserably fail some day. kidding
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13:53<AzaToth>I also wondered what the "replacement" for networking restart is
13:54<AzaToth>(and don't tell me it's rebooting)
13:54<Nazcafan>ahaaa
13:54<s_i_m>well, you know. there is network manager that some ppl like too much
13:54*Nazcafan is glad to discover he is not the only one
13:54<AzaToth>s_i_m: network manager?
13:54<Nazcafan>what is ppl?
13:54<sd-fritze>people
13:54<Nazcafan>people
13:54<Nazcafan>got it
13:55<s_i_m>AzaToth, the gnome applet
13:55<AzaToth>s_i_m: not using gnome
13:56*s_i_m has neither
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13:57<AzaToth>s_i_m: don't tell me people are forced to point and click?
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13:57<s_i_m>AzaToth, at least there seem to be a strong movement in that direction...
13:58<Nazcafan>they say you can use network manager without a gui - client
13:58<Nazcafan>I read that on a blag
13:58<AzaToth>you might, but you hell can't install it without the whole gnome blob
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14:00<AzaToth>and network manager installs stuff like "modemmanager" and "ppp"
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14:00<s_i_m>for me /e/n/interfaces is enough. For eth+ I use ifplugd and wpa_supplicant for wireless
14:00<Nazcafan>s_i_m, I had some trouble today with the allow-hotplug that
14:01<Nazcafan>would work with eth0 but not eth1
14:01*AzaToth has a such fnuked up system, he has only an eth2
14:01<AzaToth>i.e. I have no eth0 nor any eth1 ツ
14:01<s_i_m>the bad thing is that ifplugd is practically non-maintained anymore.
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14:01<Nazcafan>AzaToth, you can probably edit some lines in /etc/udev/??/70-blahblah
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14:02<AzaToth>Nazcafan: the computer is way too old
14:02<AzaToth>6-7 years now :(
14:02<Nazcafan>AzaToth, soooo ?
14:02<AzaToth>the harddive has semicrashed twice
14:03<AzaToth>so I don'twant to edit /etc too much
14:03<Nazcafan>AzaToth, ah
14:03<Nazcafan>bummer
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14:03<AzaToth>sometimes the edits is forgotten on reboot
14:03<AzaToth>are*
14:03<Justin_A>AzaToth: /msg dpkg 70
14:03*AzaToth really want/need new comp
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14:05<sKeith>or at least a new hdd
14:05<AzaToth>Justin_A: last time I tried to get it from eth1 to eth0 it went to eth2, havn't tried more
14:05<AzaToth>I have a new one
14:05<AzaToth>havn't had time to move the system though
14:05<Justin_A>delete everything that is there, itll go back to eth0
14:06<AzaToth>ah
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14:06<Derek>can i have it so when i type in a user and password at the login screen it loads the home folder from somewhere on the network?
14:06<Justin_A>Derek: home directories on nfs
14:06<hever>How can I list all files, newer than for example 2006 ?
14:07<Derek>Justin_A: thank you
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14:07<AzaToth>Justin_A: sometimes I hate the persisten-* udev rules
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14:08<Justin_A>AzaToth: they come in handy if you actually hotplug devices or want to name your interfaces on s erver that has 4 of them
14:08<s_i_m>hever, with find
14:08<AzaToth>Justin_A: we had the issue that we often changed hardware with the same disk
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14:09<AzaToth>so we ended up removing the generator
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14:10<Martian67>Justin_A,
14:10<Martian67>if its a disk
14:10<Martian67>just give it a label
14:10<Justin_A>you can do wildcards in the udev rules
14:10<Martian67>and use /dev/disk/disk-by-label
14:10<Martian67>or use uuid
14:10<Justin_A>Martian67: we aare not talking about disks
14:10<Martian67>you might be :)
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14:17<Derek>is it better to upgrade to squeeze or to keep using lenny?
14:18<dondelelcaro>Derek: up to you, really
14:18<hfr>sry for OT - aber ist hier vl. jemand kunde bei hetzner und kann mir sagen wie lange die einrichtung eines rootservers dauert ?
14:18<sKeith>hever, try 'find -mtime 1678' where 1678 is days from today
14:18<hever>I created a file with touch -d and use -cnewer, thank you !
14:18<Derek>dondelelcaro: is there any benefit to upgrading?
14:19<s_i_m>sKeith, newer find has -newermt option
14:19<s_i_m>which is handy
14:19<dondelelcaro>Derek: newer packages, different bugs
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14:19<Derek>dondelelcaro: ok, thanks
14:20<s_i_m>sKeith, hever: find ~ -newermt "Jan 1, 2006"
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14:21<sKeith>i must have old version ( invalid predicate )
14:21<s_i_m>yes, i am on sid
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14:22<s_i_m>actually, that option is not even yet mentioned in the man. but info has it.
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14:38<s_i_m>actually, I have to correct myself, -newerXY is mentioned in man find. XY can be mt, ct, etc
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14:42<jenifer>ola
14:42<locklace>jenifer: habla ingles o salte, perra
14:42<jenifer>ola
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14:45<alexandre_>jiu
14:46<Derek>locklace: i think ola is galician, not spanish. unless ola can be slang for hola
14:46<alexandre_>l'île de la mort
14:46<chk>i think the second is right
14:47<alexandre_>Ou alors l'arche de alliance
14:47<locklace>!fr
14:47<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
14:48<alexandre_>Dans une île été abendener
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14:49<chk>alexandre_, english plz here
14:49<Derek>i'm pretty sure alexandre isn't looking for help, he's just trolling haha
14:49<alexandre_>TAGELE
14:49<chk>:)
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14:49<alexandre_>MORT
14:50<alexandre_>MORT
14:50<alexandre_>MORT
14:50<alexandre_>MORT
14:50<alexandre_>MORT
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14:50<amanita>Greetings! Pretty lame question, how can I install my ttf fonts in Debian Lenny.
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14:50<amanita>Copy it into a directory as root? If so what directory?
14:51<marioxcc>hi, how I can tell the package manager I compiled manually a package (say, bzip2) instead of using the one in the debian repo?
14:52<Derek>amanita: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/TT-Debian.html ?
14:52<chk>amanita, what you think about google.com? maybe before asking here u can use it?)
14:52<chk>first link and u r happy :D
14:52<Derek>^^^ true statement
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14:54<amanita>Thanks so much
14:54<amanita>chk: google.com? Never heard about it :-D
14:55<devil>marioxcc: look at checkinstall (instead of make install)
14:55<devil>marioxcc: not ideal but better than passing by dpkg
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15:02<felixs>marioxcc: just set the manually built package to hold: echo "packagename hold" | dpkg --set-selections. apt will not touch it then
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15:05<marioxcc>ok
15:05<marioxcc>hanks
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15:19<soliveira>org
15:19<soliveira>ops
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15:37<syko789>how do i update my drives? is there an "update driver" thing like in ub, i cannot find it
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15:38<jordanm>syko789: what version of debian? do you have hardware not working or not functioning correctly? what hardware?
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15:39<graffy>I can't access some domains (newegg.com, amazon.com, smart.fm...) I get 102 connection refused, but not on Windows
15:39<graffy>other domains are fine
15:40<Justin_A>102 connection refused?
15:40<syko789>jordanm, i got the debian version from their site, the i386 netinst if thats what you're asking. no hardware that i know of is not working
15:40<graffy>the HTTP code
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15:40<Justin_A>graffy: what http code?
15:40<graffy>102 Connection Refused
15:40<chk>error 102: connection refused
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15:41<graffy>i can't get to w3.org
15:41<Justin_A>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
15:41<Justin_A>102 Processing (WebDAV) (RFC 2518)
15:41<Justin_A>graffy: wget w3.org
15:41<jordanm>syko789: then there is no need for newer drivers
15:42<Justin_A>pastebin output
15:42<graffy>Justin_A: failed, connection refused
15:42<Derek>DNS issue?
15:42<graffy>I tried OpenDNS
15:43<graffy>the only thing that wors is nslookup actually
15:43<graffy>*works
15:43<graffy>because i can retrive data from the nameservers
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15:46<graffy>any other ideas? I can reach the sites on windows
15:47<felixs>graffy: telnet w3.org 80? telnet 128.30.52.45 80?
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15:48<Justin_A>where did you pastebin the output?
15:48<graffy>felixs: connection refused, connection refused
15:48<graffy>trying a new user
15:48<graffy>be back later
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15:49<Justin_A>pastebin output means pastebin output, not paste the part of the output that you think is relevant
15:49<felixs>Justin_A: i think it was a one liner...
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15:52<alexandre_>Dans les dix commandements
15:52<Derek>he's back
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15:52<chk>omfg
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15:53<chk>i'll begin to speak russian with him if he continue ;)
15:53<alexandre_>par un bateau
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15:54<chk>alexandre_, зоебал. пнх отсюда
15:54<chk>sry ;(
15:54<alexandre_>et jésus
15:56<alexandre_>les dix commandements dans l'arche de alliance
15:56<Derek>arrêter
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15:58<alexandre_>non j'arrêter
15:58<moldovean>!ops alexandre_
15:58<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: moldovean complains about: alexandre_
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15:58<pinger_>alexandre_: Christ vous punir si vous ne suivez pas immédiatement disparaître
15:58<chk>o_O
15:59<alexandre_>l'arche de alliance est cache dans ces pays
15:59<moldovean>alexandre_, fou la merde ailleur  
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17:05<quimey>Hello, I need some help for making a live usb drive, can somebody help me?
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17:07<moldovean>quimey, try #debian-live
17:07<quimey>ok, thanks
17:07<quimey>exit
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17:11<hdtdi>i have a problem with my iceweasel and i think flash. when i dont use iceweasel for some time and then try play some song in youtube.. the song goes crazy.. like goes directly to 10second than 1minute and then stops.. i have to close iceweasel and then is ok..
17:11<hdtdi>anyone got an idea why is that happening ?
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17:11<carles>iceweasel 3.6????
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17:13<hdtdi>3.0.6
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17:15<carles>iceweasel 3.0.6 is debian version stable?
17:15<syko789>how do i change the name of my computer in debian
17:15<felixs>syko789: edit /etc/hostname
17:15<felixs>then run /etc/init.d/hostname.sh or something
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17:16<felixs>syko789: to change non-permanently, just type hostname newhostname
17:16<wizard>hello all I tried to set up dual monitor, I had laptop screen set as 1 monitor as 2 but when the mouse went to screen 2 it never went back to screen one
17:16<wizard>anyone any ideas ?
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17:16<Justin_A>wizard: different size?
17:16<carles>it is true that debian already frozen to squeeze?
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17:16<chk>yep
17:17<wizard>Justin_A, yea LCD monitor is 19 inch
17:17<wizard>monitor on laptop is about same 17 inch
17:17<carles>Squeeze might well be stable in December?
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17:18<Justin_A>wizard: errr.. different resolution?
17:18<syko789>felixs, thanks it worked
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17:19<wizard>Justin_A, nope everything looks fine, just when you move the mouse over to screen 2 you cant get it back to screen one ?
17:20<carles>hdtdi: you have Installed flashplugin-nonfree?
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17:20<hdtdi>carles, hyes
17:20<hdtdi>yes*
17:20<carles>hdtdi: you thought in update version?
17:20<felixs>syko789: renaming your host might lead to fun with X session cookies and mail delivery (maybe more...) be prepared :)
17:20<maracucho>alguien habla español
17:20<carles>maracucho: yo
17:21<maracucho>gracias a dios
17:21<hdtdi>carles, i dont understand you? what do you mean update version
17:21<carles>pero tienes debian-es
17:21<maracucho>si
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17:21<carles>hdti , sorry.
17:21<maracucho>lenyn
17:21<maracucho>la cosa es que se daño
17:22<maracucho>y quiero salvar los datos
17:22<chk>!es
17:22<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
17:22<carles>hdtdi: you thought in update version of iceweasel?
17:22<hdtdi>to update iceweasel?
17:23<maracucho>#debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado
17:23<syko789>felixs, okay thanks for the heads up
17:23<chk>is 3.0.6 deb. ver. stable?
17:23<hdtdi>carles, you mean to update iceweasel ?
17:23<maracucho>ok i donw sp inglis so god
17:24<maracucho>how get permis to enter in my hd
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17:25<carles>yes, I'm sorry but my english is very very poor,but I want to help those who can and help people
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17:27<carles>you thought about upgrading to squeeze or force the version of iceweasel to testing??
17:27<nec>maracucho:like, you've forgotten your login password?
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17:38<x90>in fvwm-crystal how do i enable touchpad click
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17:39<x90>lol
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17:40<x90>irc was cool once, people used to be here, not bots and wana bes
17:40<x90>peace out
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17:42<deltawing12>when i try to save my hosts file it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file." I thought i was the admin though.
17:42<kop>deltawing12: What does "id" say?
17:43<deltawing12>id? what do you mean
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17:43<deltawing12>im new to linux
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17:44<Justin_A>deltawing12: it means you type id and press enter
17:44<deltawing12>id
17:44<Justin_A>oh dear
17:45<pinger_>omg
17:45<deltawing12>in the terminal oh
17:45<pinger_>deltawing12: in terminal
17:45<deltawing12>uid=1000(psychodebian) gid=116(powerdev) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),103(scanner),111(netdev),112(lpadmin),116(powerdev)
17:47<felixs>deltawing12: type "su", enter your root password, and then "id" again
17:47<felixs>root is what you might have called 'admin'
17:48<deltawing12>uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
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17:49<deltawing12>wait i figured it out
17:49<deltawing12>i just typed gedit /etc/hosts in root terminal
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17:50<deltawing12>and it saved now, thanks guys
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18:03<wizard>hello all, anyone no way when I have dual monitor set up that when I move my mouse from my laptop screen to the monitor I cannot move it back again ?
18:04*jordanm can't imagine why that would be desirable
18:04<wizard>jordanm, you talking to me ?
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18:05<jordanm>yes
18:05<wizard>because when I work from home I need to have 2 monitors, when I am at work I have 4, I need 2 monitoring, so I use laptop screen for one monitor for the other
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18:06<wizard>because I can run 4 desktops on each screen this will meet my needs, so I got it all up, not mouse wont come back to the monitor screen when moved for some reason that I can't work out
18:06<wizard>the xconfig file looks fine
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18:15<buwar>hola, alguien puede ayudarme con un script de arranque en debian?
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18:16<wizard>anyone
18:16<wizard>hello all, anyone no way when I have dual monitor set up that when I move my mouse from my laptop screen to the monitor I cannot move it back again ?
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18:17<buwar>hey, somebody can help me?? i have a trouble with a script in debian
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18:21<vhugox>buwar, cual problema tienes?, a ver si te puedo ayudar. Que hace el script?
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18:33<hbbs>!ntfsprogs
18:33<hbbs>!ntfs
18:33<dpkg>[ntfs] Windows NT File System. There are 3 drivers in Debian: the read-only Linux kernel driver and <FUSE> drivers providing write support. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about read/write access, ask me about <ntfsrw>. See also <ntfsclone>, <ntfsck>, <label>. FAQ: http://linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en . http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS http://linux-ntfs.org/ #ntfs on irc.freenode.net.
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18:38<buwar>mi script no inicia vhugox al inicio pero si corre en consola
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19:11<psycho789>what are some good c++ IDEs for debian? not eclipse
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19:14<psycho789>thanks
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19:38<utnubu>i am trying to move a folder to my flash card but it isnt letting my because of permissions, how do i get permissions or become something that does?
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19:39<petemc>!vfatrw
19:39<dpkg>To get write access to a <vfat> partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,user,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id".
19:40<utnubu>that isnt helpful
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19:41<petemc>then you might want to learn how to ask questions properly
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19:41<utnubu>excuse me?
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19:42<floyd>@utnubu: do you tried it as root?
19:42<kop>!tell utnubu about smart questions
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19:42<utnubu>floyd, how do i do that?
19:43<floyd>in the terminal with 'su'
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19:43<utnubu>does that cross over to the gui?
19:44<floyd>over the gui you can do it with nautilus, but trie it better with the terminel
19:45<utnubu>nautilus?
19:45<utnubu>im not sure how to do it with the terminal, that's the thing
19:45<utnubu>it's a .tar.gz
19:46<floyd>look at the directory /dev/, there must be an entry like 'sdc' or somthing else
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19:46<utnubu>how do i determine which /dev/ is the sd?
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19:48<mabhe83>hello
19:49<mabhe83>anybody knows about the server of webOS???
19:49<utnubu>i dont see an sdc, how will i know what dev is the sd card?
19:49<Habanero>dmesg
19:50<floyd>is there may be an entry 'sda'
19:52<floyd>or you can look in the directory 'media', may be it`s mounteted right now
19:52<utnubu>dmesg: [ 4788.426270] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
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19:52<utnubu>so its a triple partition sd card, those are the devs for each partition?
19:53<floyd>it seems so that sdb is your harddisk
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19:56<floyd>nothing else? may be 'hdx'
19:56<utnubu>floyd, I believe it's the sdb's
19:57<utnubu>there are 3 partitions but four "sdb" sdb sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 , 3 are for partitions, what is the fourth?
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19:58<floyd>sdb is the hole sd card, sdb1 is just the first partition
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19:58<Habanero>can be mmcblkX too
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19:59<utnubu>yeah it was mmcblk on my android but sdb on the laptop
19:59<utnubu>actually it was /dev/block/mmcblk
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20:02<floyd>do you try it on your phone or on your laptop?
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20:03<utnubu>laptop
20:03<utnubu>how do i specify a folder to unpack a .tar.bz2 to?
20:04<jrabbit>utnubu: man tar
20:04<jrabbit>I think it'd be like -o or -O probably
20:05<floyd>it is -j, isn`t it?
20:06<floyd>type 'tar xvjf'
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20:08<Justin_A>nope :)
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20:14<utnubu>ls
20:16<utnubu>how do i copy the contents of a directory to a flash device?
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20:16<utnubu>cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/dev/sdb3' with directory `./'
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20:18<floyd>first 'mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt/', than you can copy the contents to /mnt/ on the sd card
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20:22<Justin_A>utnubu: is there a reason you aren't just using nautilus?
20:23<Justin_A>I mean, untarring a .tar.bz2 and copying the files to an sdcard is like 4 clicks
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20:37<mario__>hello
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20:38<mario__>i want to update the kernel with a backport to get my atheros wireless card running, which kernel should i install?
20:39<mlv_zeus>bonsoir
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20:41<mlv_zeus>helo
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20:48<utnubu>how do i copy the contents of a folder to another in command line, not the folder that contains them?
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20:50<mlv_zeus>do u spek french ...?
20:51<mlv_zeus>alo
20:51<mlv_zeus>ubuntu > u are her
20:52<mlv_zeus>..?
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21:06<utnubu>how do i use nautilus as root?
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21:12<retrospectacus>!qotd0
21:12<dpkg><ribnitz> but windoze does it, and if windows does it it can't be that wrong :)
21:15<utnubu>how do i copy files onto an sd card using the gui? it is giving me permission denied
21:16<trovanon>utnubu: you can use some programs as root by launching them from terminal. For example, I could launch nvidia-settings as root to change my aspect ratio, etc.
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21:16<mario__>hello
21:17<XaTriX>hi'
21:17<mario__>im having trouble connecting to a wireless network
21:17<mario__>it just says "waiting for network key for ..."
21:17<XaTriX>i've upgraded etch to lenny, and nic seems not recognize now x_x
21:19<utnubu>i get a long error text when i try to launch nautilus in terminal
21:19<trovanon>search it
21:20<utnubu>alt+f2 gksudo nautilus is what they said to do, but that didnt fix the problem
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21:22<XaTriX>\o/
21:24<streuner>thats what you get with many GNOME/GTK apps. usually
21:24<streuner>but, keep in mind, you dont run nautilus seperatly usually...
21:25<utnubu>chmod 777 on a mounted drive seems to fix the problem
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21:27<XaTriX>my problem is common ? :o
21:29<streuner>XaTriX: depends on the kernel...
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21:31<XaTriX>okey
21:33<streuner>XaTriX: what does the kernel say about your NIC?
21:34<streuner>dmesg or/and kernel.log should help...
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21:36<streuner>(if the kernel say, all things are ok, its just a config thingie)
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21:36<streuner>amset:/# dmesg | grep eth
21:36<streuner>[ 1.278369] eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd800, 00:1a:92:fb:0b:d8, IRQ 16
21:37<streuner>[ 90.532700] eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
21:37<streuner>that looks ok
21:37<XaTriX>i was trying to find out these informations but reboot system bug (ovh) i can't reboot & use rescue system... X_X
21:38<streuner>there is a dmesg.log file
21:39<XaTriX>i'm waiting for a reboot on rescue system to get that
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21:44<XaTriX>okay
21:45<XaTriX>root@rescue:/mnt/var/log# cat dmesg | grep eth
21:45<XaTriX>eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0xfbfff800, 00:18:f3:21:00:12, IRQ 23.
21:45<XaTriX>eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 01e1 Link 41e1.
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21:46<streuner>hm, sounds ok to me
21:46<streuner>check out the config then
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21:48<XaTriX>okay
21:48<XaTriX>seems good
21:49<XaTriX>hmmmm
21:49<XaTriX>http://paste.debian.net/82436/
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21:52<streuner>did you ping the gateway, does it resolve google.com for example too?
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21:53<streuner>just ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 too
21:54<XaTriX>cant acces server when booting on hdd
21:54<XaTriX>if eth0 is down :d
21:54<XaTriX>network/gateway are good
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21:55<XaTriX>there is no "eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex" after MII PHY found...
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21:57<streuner>just ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 too
21:57<XaTriX>o_O ?
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22:02<XaTriX>ok i've tested dhcp
22:02<XaTriX>server not responding
22:04<streuner>no wonder, you have a static config
22:05<XaTriX>why link is not up :/
22:05<streuner>because your config sucks?
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22:06<streuner>iface eth0 inet static
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22:07<XaTriX>"iface eth0 inet dhcp" works on rescue system
22:07<XaTriX>not on lenny
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22:08<Xenguy>Hi - I'm having a hell of a time trying to setup gpg-agent. It's just not working for me, and really, it shouldn't be that hard to setup. Has anyone got this beastie successfully configured in Debian?
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22:14<XaTriX>udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1
22:14<XaTriX>....
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22:15<XaTriX>at end of dmesg
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22:16<XaTriX>http://paste.debian.net/82438/
22:17<XaTriX>ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
22:17<XaTriX>hm?!
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22:20<XaTriX>acpi problem ? :/
22:21<XaTriX>Linux version 2.6.24.5-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-64
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22:25<XaTriX>help `\\o//'
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22:30<blockowitsch>hello. how to disable default creation of these "Download", "Videos" and so on folders in gnome?
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22:36<simonrvn>XaTriX: that's not a problem.
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22:37<XaTriX>okey
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22:38<XaTriX>why eth is not upping :/
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22:46<XaTriX>config seems okay & nic is detected
22:47<XaTriX>so why eth0 is not UP ?! and why udev rename eth0 > eth1 ?!
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22:51<XaTriX>anyone ?
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22:55<xjjk>XaTriX: udev keeps track of all the network adaptors you've ever plugged in
22:55<xjjk>it remembers their MAC addresses and original ethN numbering
22:55<xjjk>and saves them for you
22:55<xjjk>XaTriX: that's controlled by /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
22:55<XaTriX>thanks
22:56<xjjk>the idea is to keep network interfaces from changing names when you add/remove adapters
22:56<XaTriX>good thing
22:56<xjjk>which is a bit of an annoying problem
22:56<XaTriX>but why now it rename it in eth1
22:56<XaTriX>before and for 2 years it was eth0 :d
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22:57<xjjk>did you change the NIC?
22:57<XaTriX>no
22:57<XaTriX>just upgrade etch > lenny
22:57<xjjk>replace machine/motherboard/etc?
22:57<xjjk>interesting
22:57<xjjk>I'm not sure
22:57<XaTriX>nic is detected
22:57<xjjk>either way, fix the naming in that file
22:57<xjjk>and reboot
22:57<xjjk>all should be well
22:57<XaTriX>but no link :/
22:57<XaTriX>fix the naming ?
22:58<xjjk>in that file, fix the mapping of MAC address to eth0
22:58<XaTriX>by /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ?
22:58<xjjk>yes
22:58<xjjk>i.e., edit the file such that the NIC with this address becomes eth0
22:58<xjjk>and make sure there aren't conflicts
22:58<xjjk>i.e. multiple eth0s
22:59<XaTriX>i've 2 mac inside o_O
22:59<XaTriX>but one nic
22:59<xjjk>do you have firewire?
22:59<XaTriX>dont know
23:00<XaTriX>eth0 is "e1000" & eth1 is "via-rhine"
23:00<XaTriX>the second is the nic
23:00<xjjk>that implies you have 2 NICs
23:00<XaTriX>& i also set networks, eth1 on auto/dhcp
23:00<XaTriX>like eth0
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23:00<XaTriX>hm
23:01<XaTriX>grep on dmesg (for e1000) = no return
23:02<xjjk>perhaps at one point you did? none of this is really that important
23:02<XaTriX>on kern.log e1000 drivers are loading...
23:02<xjjk>just edit the file appropriately
23:02<XaTriX>i didnt touch the server, config is same since 2k8
23:02<XaTriX>okey
23:05<XaTriX>i've commented eth0 (e1000) and change for that
23:05<XaTriX>SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:18:f3:21:00:12", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
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23:06<XaTriX>i've set old eth0 setting, iface eth0 inet static
23:07<XaTriX>rebooting...
23:08<XaTriX>working...
23:08<XaTriX>thanks ;)
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23:18<maedca>hola alguien de venezuela
23:18<maedca>?
23:20<icebrain>!es
23:20<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
23:21<maedca>sorry
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23:50<edbian>I'm just learning how to create Debian packages. I have a couple scripts that I wrote to make things easier on my system that I've placed in /usr/local/bin. Is it proper to keep them there or have them installed as .deb packages which would place them in /usr/bin ??
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23:51<icebrain>edbian: I would make a .deb and put them on /usr/bin, but I don't know what's the official Debian stance :|
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23:51<jmarsden>edbian: Packages for your own use can do whatever you want. Packages for general use and for inclusion in Debian should not install anything to /usr/local/ per Debian Policy.
23:52<edbian>jmarsden, I understand that. My packages do not put anything in /usr/local/* I'm saying I wrote some scripts and cp'd them into /usr/local/bin. Now that I know how to make Debian packages should I create packages for each script and take them out of /usr/local/bin ??
23:53<jmarsden>Well, only if you want to distribute those scripts for the use of others.
23:53<edbian>jmarsden, I do not. :) Thanks for the help!
23:53<jmarsden>edbian: No problem.
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