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---Logopened Wed Aug 18 00:00:37 2010
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00:22<cwood>Evening. Is the person who wrote the dpkg bot about? I have a question about the profanity filter.
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00:34<blarson>cwood: dondelelcaro is the current maintainer of dpkg, I don't know if he is the original author.
00:34<dondelelcaro>cwood: what about it?
00:35*dondelelcaro didn't write the profanity filter code, and finds such filters entirely useless, but whatever works
00:35<cwood>My point is that it's working too well. -_-
00:36<dondelelcaro>what are you trying to do?
00:36<cwood>I'm trying to add a snarky rejoinder for "prostitution" via msg to my copy, but there is no reply, and the item doesn't get added to the database.
00:37<cwood>Like: prositution is <reply> Perhaps you should be on craigslist not here.
00:37<K6ORJ>Anyone else having trouble getting pidgin to connect in Debian 6 alpha?
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00:38<jeffrey>hello?
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00:39<K6ORJ>Hello Jeffery
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00:41<jeffrey>haha i'm a newer
00:42<dondelelcaro>cwood: dpkg doesn't have the filtering enabled, and that factoid is totally useless
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00:42<cwood>I'm not trying to add it to dpkg, but my own bot.
00:42<cwood>(Another network.)
00:42<jeffrey>it's the first time to use this software
00:42<dondelelcaro>cwood: well, the subroutine is simple enough. Look at hasProfanity in src/Misc.pl
00:43<cwood>aha, thank you
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00:45<K6ORJ>Welcome to Debian Jeffery
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00:46<jeffrey>thanks.
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01:55<dominick>Hi! Where in my default debian installation can I find named pipes and sockets?
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01:59<blarson>dominick: whereever you create them
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02:00<jm_>:)
02:01<jm_>some examples will be in /tmp
02:02<dominick>jm_, thanks, I found sockets. What about named pipes?
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02:04<jm_>dominick: ls -l /var/run/screen/*
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02:05<dominick>jm_, I don't have the screen directory under /var/run !
02:05<Sebastian>Hey, I'm looking for a way to get all the build dependencies of a package listed. I failed to notice an option for that in apt-get, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? Thanks for ideas!
02:06<rpetre>dominick: you need to install screen and start a screen session
02:06<blarson>Sebastian: apt-get build-dep package
02:06<rpetre>or just use mkfifo
02:06<Sebastian>blarson: well, that will install the missing build dependencies
02:06<Sebastian>blarson: I want a list of them all
02:06<jpinx-eeepc>Sebastian: it will depend on what you already have installed - the best bet is to do aptitude install -s package and see what it asks for
02:06<Sebastian>blarson: even if I might have a few of them installed already
02:06<dominick>rpetre, hmm! I'm looking for a named pipe which can be found by my students in the lab with an unprevileaged account!
02:07<jm_>dominick: then search for it with find ...
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02:08<jm_>dominick: ls -l /dev/initctl
02:08<Sebastian>jpinx-eeepc: but that isn't related to build dependencies at all, is it?
02:09<jpinx-eeepc>Sebastian: it is related to the system you currently have installed
02:09<dominick>thanks jm_
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02:10<dominick>I see /dev has got all the file types!
02:10<jm_>Sebastian: they are documented in .dsc files
02:10<Sebastian>jm_: nice, where would I get these files?
02:10<jm_>Sebastian: debian mirrors
02:10<jpinx-eeepc>Sebastian: every system will get a different answer according to what's already installed, and you can see recommends and suggests separately
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02:11<jm_>Sebastian: also in /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources
02:12<jm_>those files can probably be used with tools from grep-dctrl
02:13<Sebastian>jm_: I found it, thanks!
02:13<Sebastian>jpinx-eeepc: thanks, I still think we're misunderstanding each other
02:13<Sebastian>jpinx-eeepc: jm_'s answer was what I was looking for :)
02:13<jpinx-eeepc>Sebastian: oki doki :)
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04:08<Atessss>Hello
04:08<Atessss>I have a problem
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04:09<Atessss>I have a two domain name..
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04:09<Atessss>Domains is redirect my IP address..
04:09<Atessss>But I can't config my apache2 for the work :(
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04:17<duke->hi folks
04:17<duke->two packages provide the same files, Conflicts or Breaks for the control-file then?
04:18<duke->i read many times the debian policy 7.3 and 7.4
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04:32<stevenz>hello,
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04:35<mixalis88>Hi, I want to format my external HD but I don't know wich file system to choose. I will use my external HD only from GNU/Linux and I will use it only to save files and backup. Wich is the best file system for external HD?
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04:35<petemc>mixalis88: i use ext3
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04:42<vallo>about desktop environments: why should i choose gnome instead of lxde for example?
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04:44<kenyon>mixalis22: I use ext4
04:45<vallo>is this something to do with the programs that run under different desktop environments? does it mean that i can use one web browser in one environment but cant use it in another for example?
04:45<vallo>or is it something else why they are different?
04:45<kenyon>vallo: no, you can use any program in any desktop environment
04:45<jm_>well almost any
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04:46<vallo>then i think i'm missing the point here
04:46<jm_>there is no point
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04:47<vallo>or is it something to with that for example gnome comes with many programs preinstalled and lxde is coming without them by default?
04:47<jm_>probably because it's more newbie friendly/complete or whatever
04:48<vallo>and what does it mean by newbie friendly?
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04:48<jm_>I wouldn't know, I don't find it friendly
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04:48<vallo>but am i moving to right direction with my question or not?
04:49<jm_>I don't know that either
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04:50<kenyon>vallo: maybe https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/GNOME can provide some enlightenment
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04:53<vallo>kenyon: already read it before, but i think i want do know something different
04:54<vallo>lets put it this way: if i use lxde instead of gnome or kde, which are the restrictions to me as an user
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04:54<rpetre>restrictions? none. lack of convenience? maybe
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04:55<kenyon>there aren't really any restrictions. the desktop environment mostly provides a consistent look and feel, and a bunch of applications that are supposed to work well together, and development APIs to support that
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04:57<vallo>so if i am used to use firefox, thunderbird, OpenOffice etc i can use them in lxde?
04:57<rpetre>yes
04:57<jm_>of course
04:57<vallo>rpetre: what do you mean by convenience then?
04:58<rpetre>vallo: a DE comes with a lot of apps that are integrated with it
04:58<rpetre>for instance, gnome-terminal or various configuration tools
04:59<vallo>so if i want to use them in different de, then i have to install them separately
04:59<vallo>?
04:59<rpetre>but most aplications are indeendent
04:59<rpetre>vallo: yes, and they will probably pull most of the libraries and backends anyway
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05:00<rpetre>a DE is just a set of apps that are designed to be used together, but they usually work separately
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05:01<vallo>so basically i can create my own desktop environment from scratch with ease?
05:03<kenyon>vallo: not a DE in the same sense as Gnome and KDE, but yes
05:03<vallo>ok, got to go now
05:03<vallo>will ask questions later :)
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05:42<X_7>some sweet girls here? ~_0
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05:43<rpetre>what's the best way to apply a patch over the debian kernel? i need a two-line patch in a driver, would dkms help me or should i just build a separate linux-image package each time?
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05:50<jy>hi everyone, I'm a recruiter for betonmarkets.com, a financial betting company, and I'm looking for IRC channels on which to advertise a sysadmin position. I'm new to IRC and not sure where to start. Can anyone point me the right direction? Many thanks.
05:50<avu>advertising is generally frowned upon on IRC
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05:51<avu>so your best bet would be to chose another medium
05:51<jy>are there no channels specifically for job opportunities?
05:51<project2501a>jy: on irc?
05:52<jy>yep.
05:52<project2501a>*reddit face of disapproval*
05:52<avu>hah
05:52<project2501a>no. irc has never quite been a place to search/advertize a job
05:52<avu>jy, really, chose another medium. the web for example. plenty of platforms there to do just what you want
05:53<jy>the web brings lots of lousy candidates. I just interviewed 2 guys this week who said they had found their previous jobs via freenode, so i thought I'd check it out.
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05:54<avu>that doesn't mean jobs are advertised on IRC. you get to know people and as it is with better friends/contacts, jobs might get passed around
05:54<jy>btw where do strong sysadmins look for jobs on the web? careers.stackoverflow.com seems good, but it's mainly developers not sysadmins. Where do all the best sysadmins hang out?
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05:55<avu>no idea, I'm a developer :)
05:56<avu>(also, I never got a job through someone I didn't know before)
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05:57<jy>yep, that's the challenge, as Joel Spolsky says the best developers are never on the market, and when they are, they always know a friend in another company that snaps them up!
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06:02<icesurfer_>hello all
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06:04<d-ole>HELLO I HEARD THAT THERE WAS A JOB AND I AM JOB LIKE
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06:05<d-ole>I HAVE INSTALLED DEBIAN NOW THREE TIMES AAND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME TALK WITH WHOM HAS THE JOB DETAILS PLEASE
06:06<dominick>d-ole, happy hunting! lol
06:06<d-ole>I AM ESPECIALLY GOOD WITH THE OPENS SOURCE WHEN THERE IS USE AFTER INITIALIZATION
06:06<d-ole>ASK
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06:06<d-ole>SSL
06:06<d-ole>OPENSSL I MEANT TO SAY
06:07<rpetre>lol
06:07<icesurfer_>haha
06:07<icesurfer_>:)
06:07<dominick>!slap d-ole
06:07*dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across d-ole's face
06:07<dominick>not a place for job-hunting!
06:08<d-ole>I AM SECURITY EXPERT WITH FIVE OR SIX TIMES NOW I HAVE RUN CODE SCANNER ON PLACES WHERE THERE ARE BUGS. I FIX FASTER THAN ALL MY NEIGHBOURS WHO HAVE DOGS
06:08<d-ole>BUT MY FRIEND SHE SAY THAT JOBS ARE HERE
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06:09<project2501a>d-ole: i hear they ask for people over at http://4chan.org
06:09<d-ole>BUT SHE HAS NO DOG, ONLY A CAT AND A COPY OF THE MANUAL PAGE FOR DPKG BUT I TEACH HER SLOWLY
06:09<moldovean>!caps
06:09<dpkg>Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words, put an underscore ("_") on both sides.
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06:10<project2501a>!donotfeedthetrolls
06:10<d-ole>YES I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT HOW DO I MAKE MY WRITING SMALL?
06:10<project2501a>apparently there are 3 tftpd packages in debian. which one is the best? which one can serve, let's say 100 requests a minute?
06:10<project2501a>i tried tftd-hpa and apparently it blocks if it serves more than 6-7 hosts
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06:11<dominick>d-ole, we can hire you. Here's your job description: choose any 1. 1 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ 2 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/
06:11<d-ole>ah I called my friend she showed me the problem I had pressed my cap
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06:12<dominick>ciao d-ole, the fun is dying!
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06:12<project2501a>aw, man i didn't even get to crack half my slashdot memes. :(
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06:13<d-ole>Why will none of you take me seriously?
06:14<icesurfer_>depends on your skill set, d-ole
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06:15<d-ole>Well except from expert TCP/IP and c I am security bug andcpatching xpert
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06:15<themill>d-ole: this isn't a job advertising channel in any case. Do you have a debian support question we can help you with?
06:15<icesurfer_>well, problem solved itself
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07:31<happyaron>Does Sid support ext4?
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07:32<abrotman>yes
07:33<locklace>yes, as does squeeze, and lenny-backports for that matter
07:33<happyaron>squeeze supports ext4?
07:34<happyaron>a month ago it fails to boot on my ext4 partition.
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07:35<locklace>then you screwed something up
07:35<happyaron>I just installed squeeze, and upgrade ext3 to ext4, then it says cannot mount root filesystem
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07:55<alephnull>How do I find out the variables I need to put in a preseed file for mysql-server-5.0 ?
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07:57<rpetre>alephnull: install debconf-utils and use debconf-get-selections
07:58<alephnull>Ah, thank you.
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08:05<infinite>Hi Folks
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08:08<alephnull>rpetre: I get an unknown type error on the line "mysql-server-5.0 mysql-server/error_setting_password error"
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08:14<infinite_>Hi Folks
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08:15<infinite_>Hi Folks
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08:16<abrotman>hi?
08:17<infinite_>I just installed Debian Testing Weekly build CD1, it installed fine, but I get frequent Freezes on GNOME.
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08:18<abrotman>have you tried another WM to see if it's just GNOME? what is your video card/driver?
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08:19<infinite_>I have not tried another WM, I will try Fluxbox, my Video card is only TNT Reva NVIDIA 32MB Ram
08:20<abrotman>does the system completely freeze? can you still ssh into it?
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08:20<abrotman>which video driver are youusing?
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08:22<infinite_>I dont know if I am using a driver, I just used the Debian Installation CD disk. The system completely freezes even without doing anything
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08:26<lenovo>hi all i have lenovo s10-3 and it have sim card module how can i connect to gprs by this module in debian ( i put sim card inside the module)
08:27<infinite_>OK I will try FluxBox and get back to this forum.
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08:29<lenovo>hi all i have lenovo s10-3 and it have sim card module how can i connect to gprs by this module in debian ( i put sim card inside the module)
08:30<raph_ael>lenovo: one time is enough, if someone knows, he'll answer
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08:34<OdyX>lenovo: search for wvdial and/or comgt
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08:35<bremner>pon and poff work for me (pppd)
08:35<lenovo>OdyX, wvdial can not detect any modem
08:35<|QED|>Hello everyone.
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08:38<gaborn>hello :) i have problem with dual monitors - LCD + external CRT - image shows up - i even can set refresh rate via xrandr etc. but problem is that I cannot get such good image as i get with default config.(general monitor without pnp) in win(7) - it is old 20" panasync pro 6a - tx-d2032 - it can handle in win 1024x768 100hz but in linux... image is not sharp and edges keep vibrating - i tried different modeline generators with info
08:38<gaborn> i found - Panasonic, PanaSync Pro 6A, 20", 30-82kHz, 50-120Hz, 0.28mm - but it doesn t help. thx for advice and comments
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08:39<infinite_>Hi: I tried Fluxbox, it also Freezes, it is not GNOME's problem
08:40<|QED|>are you using the same refresh rate both in windows and linux?
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08:40<gaborn>yep
08:41<gaborn>i tried many options with xrandr - hsync etc -but it won t help at all
08:42<|QED|>being able to issue a command doesn't garant you to have it applyed, can you check it with your monitor OSD display?
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08:44<gaborn>yes it is applied - i added new modes - and set them - and fyi it has no OSD :)
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08:45<infinite_>How would I install Video drivers
08:46<|QED|>changing resolution doesnt mean you changed also the refresh rate, which video card are you using?
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08:46<|QED|>linux tends to set the rate to maximum
08:48<gaborn>lol i used to - pavel@pavel-linux:~$ xrandr --newmode "1024x768_100.00" 126.64 1024 1056 1536 1568 768 781 794 807 -HSync -Vsync
08:48<gaborn>pavel@pavel-linux:~$ xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1024x768_100.00
08:49<happyaron>where can I get hd_media for squeeze daily netinst image?
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08:51<|QED|>once again, issuing a commant doesn't garant it to be applyed, it can apply the resolution change but not the refresh change. If you want help answer the question.
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08:54<gaborn>i add new modeline - and it has refresh parameter - then i set new mode - so i am guessing it will apply all settings not just some of them
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08:54<raph_ael>infinite_: look for xserver-xorg-video*
08:54<gaborn>if i looked to gui - it has setted same rate as i want to have
08:54<|QED|>you are guessing wrong, and i dont get why you dont wanna say what video card are you using
08:55<gaborn>i have os driver for radeon
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08:55<infinite_>I will install that and get back to you. Thanks
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08:57<|QED|>gaborn: radeon is a brand, can't you write #lspci ?
08:58<gaborn>ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200]
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08:59<gaborn>it is not important - i had many different monitors and all worked fine - even with high refresh rates
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09:00<Woet>I have installed the intel gigabit driver (igb) from the intel site, but whenever I try to modprobe it (modprobe igb) it says 'Invalid module format'
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09:01<Woet>version magic '.... kernel gcc-4.3' should be '..... kernel gcc-4.1'
09:01<gaborn>and it is set bcs -xrandr -q returns - VGA-0 connected 1024x768 - nad in modes it determines with * which mode is using - 1024x768_100.00 99.6*
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09:02<infinite>Hi I have plenty of xserver-xorg-video drivers installed
09:02<|QED|>gaborn: so your video drivers are can't be related with a monitor issue? Be next cocky, i'm done with you.
09:03<|QED|>less*
09:03<gaborn>i don't think so .. drivers are not problem..
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09:04<gaborn>i think somehow it needs to manual set right settings..
09:06<gaborn>now it is set like this :
09:06<gaborn>1024x768_100.00 (0x1c1) 126.0MHz -HSync +VSync *current
09:06<gaborn> h: width 1024 start 1056 end 1536 total 1568 skew 0 clock 80.4KHz
09:06<gaborn> v: height 768 start 781 end 794 total 807 clock 99.6Hz
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09:07<gaborn>I tried : http://xtiming.sourceforge.net to generate modeline with info i have..but no success
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09:11<gaborn>it is good with movie played on - but with static image - text etc. ... it is terrible
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09:20<Woet>I have installed the intel gigabit driver (igb) from the intel site, but whenever I try to modprobe it (modprobe igb) it says 'Invalid module format' version magic '.... kernel gcc-4.3' should be '..... kernel gcc-4.1'
09:22<OdyX>Woet: you downloaded a binary module, incompatible with the kernel you are running...
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09:22<Woet>no, i'm compiling my own network drivers
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09:22<Woet>but the gcc i'm using to compile it is newer than the one that was used for the kernel compilation apparently
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09:22<OdyX>so you compiled with the wrong compiler
09:22<Woet>okay
09:22<Woet>how do i compile with gcc v4.1?
09:22<Woet>on debian 5.
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09:23<Yoda`Taff>try gcc-4.1
09:24<Woet>okay, let me check
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09:25<jordanm>Woet: what is the pciid (lscpi -nn) of your card, and what version of debian?
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09:25<OdyX>!lenny
09:25<dpkg>Lenny is the codename for the current stable release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-14: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.5>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny
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09:28<Woet>jordanm: 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:10c9] (rev 01)
09:28<Woet>Yoda`Taff: i've edited the makefile from gcc to gcc-4.1, make clean, make install, same error :(
09:28<abrotman>CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1 make ?
09:28<OdyX>Woet: as fare as I can see, igb is in Lenny's kernel...
09:28<jordanm>,pciid 8086:10c9
09:28<judd>[8086:10c9] is '82576 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'igb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:10c9
09:29<Woet>i'm using a custom kernel
09:29<Woet>with openvz
09:29<OdyX>oh. Then please /j #I_dont_want_to_use_Debian_kernels_but_still_expect_their_support :-)
09:29<jordanm>Woet: debian ships openvz kernels, but even so, build your kernel with the option that build igb, instead of building it out of the tree
09:29<Woet>i dont think there are many people there
09:29<ander>i'm running debian lenny and pure-ftpd. i want to use pureftpd-dir-aliases, but those dirs doesn't show up in the listing. "site alias" cmd shows aliases correctly, but i can't cd into it.
09:29<Woet>jordanm: the ones they ship come without CPU limiting
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09:30<jordanm>Woet: alright, but I still don't see the need to build the intel module seperate, when you can configure it be built along with the rest of the kernel
09:30<Woet>i'm not building the kernel
09:30<Woet>i'm downloading it from the openvz site and rebooting into it
09:30<infinite>There are plenty xserver-xorg-video drivers installed already
09:31<OdyX>Woet: you might be interested in the "backports" kernel
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09:31<OdyX>Woet: you should really use Debian kernels, or at least re-compile them in Debian-style
09:31<jordanm>OdyX: doubt it, since it looks like the kernels he is referring to are .18
09:31<infinite>I used install-nvidia-debian .sh from kanotix. I get kernel panic
09:31<Woet>i'm using this kernel on a few dozen other machines with other NICs without an issue
09:32<Woet>and yes, I'm using the 2.6.18 kernel
09:32<jordanm>!tell infinite about based on debian
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09:32<Woet>if i could get the driver compiled with gcc-4.1, it will all be solved
09:32<jordanm>Woet: that kernel is for etch, which is no longer supported
09:33<infinite>kanotix is based on debian lenny
09:33<Woet>jordanm: it's the stable kernel from openVZ, working on a few dozen lenny machines with another network card without an issue
09:33<OdyX>infinite: it's not Debian lenny then
09:33<jordanm>infinite: yes, but based on debian distros are not supported here, like the factoid says
09:34<jordanm>Woet: I suggest #openvz on irc.freenode.net
09:34<jordanm>Woet: and I looked, and it still comes out of the directory that says "etch"]
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09:34<Woet>jordanm: i'm using the rpm of RHEL5
09:35<jordanm>Woet: from alien?
09:35<Woet>jordanm: http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel5/028stab070.2 <- that one
09:35<Woet>yes
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09:35<Woet>wget the rpm, alien -k it, dpkg -i deb
09:35<Woet>and it works on all machines except this one with its other network card
09:35*jordanm runs away now
09:35<OdyX>Woet: you are really looking for bugs that way...
09:36<Woet>feel free to suggest other options getting the RHEL5 kernel of openVZ to run on debian lenny
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09:36<OdyX>Woet: Debian provides you openvz kernels. If they fail to fulfill your needs, you should recompile them to suit them, but your way is paved of potential bugs and errors
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09:36<Woet>debian provides the 2.6.26 kernels, which come without CPU limiting support
09:37<Woet>that's not a simple compile flag, it's thousands of lines
09:37<Woet>it's simply not there.
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09:37<OdyX>Woet: did you look at the 2.6.32 shipped by backports ?
09:37<Woet>without CPU limiting too
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09:38<OdyX>Woet: my point stays: you should patch the Debian sources to suit your needs. (that's what i would do).
09:38<jordanm>and file a wishlist bug if needed
09:39<happyaron>a problem about installing squeeze via hd_media and netinst iso, I put the vmlinuz, initrd.gz and the iso in root of my (hd0,6), and reboot, the d-i starts but cannot find ISO image. the partition is ext4, and grub parameters are http://code.bulix.org/895ncw-76579
09:39<darsie>What is a good package to install so the characters on e.g. http://www.wikipedia.org/ get displayed properly?
09:40<darsie>or "packages"
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09:41<Woet>OdyX: there are no patch files either
09:41<OdyX>darsie: try ttf-dejavu-*
09:41<darsie>thx
09:42<OdyX>Woet: then that's a problem whose reponsability is shared between OpenVZ and Debian Kernel maintainers
09:42<rpetre>what would be a good way of applying a patch on the debian kernel? would dkms help?
09:43<OdyX>rpetre: dkms' for modules
09:43<OdyX>rpetre: kernel-package is "thewaytodoit" now
09:44<darsie>OdyX: They are already installed. It's a quite fresh 'testing' installation.
09:44<rpetre>OdyX: and any suggested way of keeping track of the patch over the future kernels?
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09:44<OdyX>rpetre: getting it included mainstream :-)
09:45<rpetre>well, i got the patch from lkml, seems it will take some time until it gets in mainline
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09:45<rpetre>meanwhile it seems to fix my crashes, so i'd like to apply it on every kernel update
09:45<rpetre>as painless as possible
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09:46<OdyX>rpetre: I dunno, but take a look at kernel-package, it supposedly does what you want
09:47<rpetre>OdyX: yeah, that is the plan after all
09:47<rpetre>just thought that maybe dkms or something else could rebuild that module automatically for me
09:48<OdyX>rpetre: is its a new module, yeah, dkms is there for it.
09:48<rpetre>the module ships inside linux-image package
09:49<rpetre>(mptscsi)
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09:55<Woet>OdyX / jordanm: i've already given up
09:55<Woet>skipping the servers with this NIC
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09:57<OdyX>Woet: ?
09:57<Woet>i won't continue trying to get the kernel to work
09:57<Woet>it's not working no matter with which GCC I compile
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10:07<AmberJ>How do I update lenny to squeeze?
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10:07<AmberJ>!tell AmberJ lenny->squeeze
10:07<AmberJ>nvm. dpkg bot told me
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10:10<ander>i'm running debian lenny and pure-ftpd. i want to use pureftpd-dir-aliases, but those dirs doesn't show up in the listing. "site alias" cmd shows aliases correctly, but i can't cd into it.
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10:13<Nello>привет всем
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10:16<Nello>hi everybody
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10:18<bremner>!greet Nello
10:18<dpkg>Moo, Nello
10:19<Nello>excuse me for my English..
10:20<locklace>!ru
10:20<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
10:20<Nello>but i want to ask one question, if it's possible
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10:20<OdyX>!ask
10:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:22<Nello>so, i'm newbie in Debian. can you please tell me, how to mount CDFS on /dev/cdrom?
10:22<Nello>i've tried many times, but an error appeared
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10:40<K6ORJ>Anyone else having trouble getting pidgin to connect in Debian 6 alpha?
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10:40<OdyX>K6ORJ: no
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10:42<Maulkin>K6ORJ: nope
10:42<K6ORJ>I have to un-check and re-check the enabled box to get them to connect.
10:42<blast_hardcheese>Having some issues with this Libretto L3; First one is when upgrading to testing, base-files conflicts with a file owned by dpkg, /etc/dpkg/origins/debian
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10:43<blast_hardcheese>dpkg is at the latest version,
10:43<dpkg>bugger all, i dunno, blast_hardcheese
10:44<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: what is the name of the package? what debian version? provide the full command output in a pastebin
10:44<K6ORJ>OsyX Maulkin: I deleted the .purple folder and recreated the accounts but still the same. It won't automatically connect when I start the program.
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10:49<Termz>Hey.
10:49<Termz>How do I setup a znc/bnc on my shell?
10:49<blast_hardcheese>jordanm: http://blast.hardchee.se/pnopaste/?25
10:49<Ghost>shell <-
10:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 425] by debhelper
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10:52<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: and this after an attempted upgrade from lenny->testing?
10:52<blast_hardcheese>Yep
10:53<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: pastebin: apt-cache policy dpkg; dpkg -L dpkg
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10:54<GNu_Joe>is there an upgrade path from Ubuntu 10.04 to Sid? I'm ready to make the switch, since my loyalties lye with Debian
10:54<cthuluh>GNu_Joe: downloading a netinst CD
10:54<jordanm>GNu_Joe: mixing distros is not supported
10:54<jordanm>or transitioning from one to another
10:55<GNu_Joe>jordanm, cthuluh so it's the old save off /home and /etc and start from scratch, thought so just checking ;-)
10:55<Termz>O.o
10:55<Termz>Guys.
10:55<Termz>Bnc on shell.
10:55<Termz>How?
10:56<cthuluh>GNu_Joe: don't just overwrite your /etc after installing ;-)
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10:58<darsie>Termz: bnc is an irc bot?
10:58<Maulkin>Termz: apt-get install bnc
10:58<Termz>Maulkin, I type that in the shell?
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10:58<Termz>And darsie, not even close.
10:58<Termz>Btw, how do I close my shell and leave my irssi running?
10:58<darsie>use screen
10:59<Termz>Ctrl A + D doesn't work until I screen -r.
10:59<Termz>And I can't screen in irssi.
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10:59<cahoot>the reverse?
10:59<Maulkin>Run screen then run irssi?
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11:01<Termz>Http://ecanada.forumotion.com/new-citizen-support-aide-aux-nouveaux-citoyens-f61/useful-links-t931.htm <- all of those links fail
11:01<Termz>Or the first two.
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11:01<Termz>Wrong chat fml.
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11:01<Termz>Maulkin, what do you mean?
11:03<blast_hardcheese>jordanm: http://blast.hardchee.se/pnopaste/?27
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11:03<Maulkin>Termz: read http://lizzie.spod.cx/screenirssi.shtml
11:04<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: I asked for two commands, that is only of them
11:04<Termz>Maulkin isn't there a simple answer o.o
11:04<Termz>1 sec.
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11:04<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: and that output is very different than mine, of the same dpkg version
11:04<Termz>I want that to stop when ever I close my shell^.
11:04<blast_hardcheese>It would appear the top part got cut off.
11:04<Termz>Isn't there somthing I can just type?
11:05<Termz>OH.
11:05<Termz>Screen irssi.
11:05<Maulkin>Termz: Please, go read that
11:05<Termz>Could of just said that^.
11:05<Maulkin>That should solve the problem you're having.
11:05<Termz>Kk now.
11:06<Termz>How do I set up bncs?
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11:06<blast_hardcheese>http://blast.hardchee.se/pnopaste/?28
11:06<blast_hardcheese>jordanm: Sorry about the mispastebin earlier
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11:09<Termz>Wow.
11:09<Termz>Maulkin, that guide was really helpful tbh.
11:09<Termz>:P.
11:10<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: your dpkg seems to contian a file that it doesn't really contain
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11:11<blast_hardcheese>jordanm: aptitude reinstall dpkg?
11:11<myk42>/leave
11:11<blast_hardcheese>myk42: /part
11:11<myk42>:-)
11:12<myk42>k;)
11:12<Termz>Lol.
11:12<blast_hardcheese>Unless that was intentional?
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11:12<myk42>Please stay!
11:12<myk42><bow>
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11:12<blast_hardcheese>I don't frequent this channel, sorry
11:14<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: you can try reinstalling it, I have no idea why your dpkg would contain an extra file that mine does not, and causes the upgrade to fail
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11:16<blast_hardcheese>Ah, it worked!
11:17<Termz>Anyone know how to setup an eggdrop?
11:17<blast_hardcheese>Hmm.. Second problem I have, The screen in this laptop is 1280x600, but Xorg only gives me 800x600 of that... I've tried adding a modeline in Xorg, but it didn't change anything
11:18<blast_hardcheese>I'll paste my xorg.conf
11:18<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: xorg.conf should not be needed. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
11:19<blast_hardcheese>pasting
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11:20<blast_hardcheese>jordanm: Video card is SAVAGE: http://blast.hardchee.se/pnopaste/?29
11:21<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: paste the output of "xrandr"
11:21<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: I have never even heard of that video card...
11:21<blast_hardcheese>I was using xorg.conf to get my JP106 keyboard working correctly, it's recognized as PC104
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11:24<blast_hardcheese>http://blast.hardchee.se/pnopaste/?30 (Error when running xrandr: "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default")
11:25<jordanm>blast_hardcheese: might be worth filing a bug against xserver-xorg-video-savage. make sure to check for existing bugs first
11:26<blast_hardcheese>It should automatically detect 1280x600?
11:27<blast_hardcheese>Is there something I can do to force it to 1280x600?
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11:28<cahoot>create a modeline?
11:28<cahoot>gtf is a tool for that IIRC
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11:29<blast_hardcheese>cahoot: "Modeline "1280x600" 63.04 1280 1336 1464 1648 600 601 604 622 -HSync +Vsync" is what I put in xorg.conf, it was completely ignored (didn't affect xrandr output or work as expected)
11:30<blast_hardcheese>That was generated with gtf
11:30<cahoot>the log didn't explain why?
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11:32<blast_hardcheese>Hmm... I don't remember, I'll try again.
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11:35<blast_hardcheese>As soon as the dist-upgrade finishes. I was on an older xorg, so maybe the new one will just work
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11:35<blast_hardcheese>Also, what is the proper way to set the keyboard type in xorg? that's the other reason I was using xorg.conf
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11:45<blast_hardcheese>I only ask because it seems like xorg is migrating away from xorg.conf completely
11:46<blast_hardcheese>but all the tutorials say to modify the Keyboard section in xorg.conf
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11:47<cahoot> look at /etc/default/keyboard
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11:47<blast_hardcheese>Fantastic, thank you very much
11:48<Termz>Eh.
11:48<Termz>Anyone here good with eggdrops?
11:48<@Ganneff>this is debian support. not eggdrop
11:48<abrotman>Is there an eggdrop package in Debian?
11:49<Termz>^.
11:49<Termz>Atleast I hope.
11:49<abrotman>Termz: is that the package you're using? or have you installed it yourself from source?
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11:50<Termz>Eh, i'll use that package if you tell me how ;].
11:51<sarc2>i compiled a binary on Debian that uses the libpcap library. when i move the binary to another machine it does not require the shared library to be installed. How is this possible?
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11:51<abrotman>did you create a static binary?
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11:51<blast_hardcheese>sarc2: Run ldd on the binary, see if the requirement is being filled by a different library
11:52<sarc2>i just used the -lpcap flag
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11:52<Termz>O.o
11:52<sarc2>i installed a newer version of libpcap, compiled the same way and then it asks for shared library
11:53<Termz>Kk.
11:53<sarc2>0.9.8 didnt require .so and 1.1.1 does
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11:56<infinite>Can anyone help me with Debian Freezeup
11:56<sarc2>blast_hardcheese: ldd didn't list libpcap anywhere in the requirements
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11:57<sarc2>blast_hardcheese: but I just ran it and it captures packets just fine on machine without sl
11:57<blast_hardcheese>sarc2: One of two things are happening: 1) it's statically compiled in, 2) you're not actually using the library and gcc is being smart
11:57<infinite>I just installed Debian Squeeze weekly build, It logs me in and after sometime just freezes whether I do anything or not
11:57<sarc2>blas_hardcheese: im definitely using the library, i just captured 10 mill packets with it
11:58<locklace>infinite: define "freezes"
11:58<sarc2>blas_hardcheese: i didnt tell it to compile statically
11:58<blast_hardcheese>Not sure then
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11:59<infinite>Even if I do nothing the Mouse gets stuck and nothing happens, Sometimes I get what I think is Kernel Panic, Keyboard light start blinking and Computer starts beeping
12:00<jordanm>is your machine overheating?
12:01<locklace>infinite: yeah, it's a panic. what kernel version (run uname -r or cat /proc/version) and what kind of graphics card
12:01<sarc2>blast_cheese: it is a shared library, manually building libpcap0.9.8 only installs libpcap.a so i guess it defaults to static rather than shared
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12:01<sarc2>*it is a static library
12:02<sarc2>blast_cheese: will compiling statically affect the licensing?
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12:03<blast_hardcheese>Not a clue
12:03<sarc2>ok, ty for help
12:03<blast_hardcheese>Sorry I couldn't be of more help
12:03<infinite>I have hdtemp installed on my first harddisk, I can check the temp using xmbmon. Kernel 2.6.32.686, Graphics Card is NVIDIA TNT Reva old one
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12:06<locklace>infinite: what's the output of dpkg -l | grep linux-image (paste it at http://paste.debian.net if it's more than two lines)
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12:06<locklace>infinite: also pastebin the output of dmesg and the contents of cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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12:08<infinite>I am now connected through Kanotix, I will have to log onto Debian Squeeze Testing and connect to Xchat
12:08<locklace>infinite: you can try running x with the vesa driver to see if that gets you through without a freeze
12:08<infinite>How do I do that?
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12:11<locklace>infinite: http://osdir.com/ml/debian-user-debian/2009-12/msg01266.html for instance
12:11<locklace>infinite: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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12:15<infinite>I tried checking xorg.conf, it was not there in /etc/X11 on Debian Squeeze, it was named xorg.conf.d ini /usr/local/X11
12:15<infinite>This was am hour ago
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12:16<locklace>infinite: you just create it and add the stuff above
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12:17<infinite>Ok I will do that I have to reboot for that, I will connect back xchat in a minute. Thanks for your help
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12:24<Litfas>on lenny, i'm unexpectedly having an "exim4" process listening on port 25 after boot. that wouldn't have been caused by one of the dist-upgrades in this month, would it?
12:25<jordanm>Litfas: your machine was probably like that after installation
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12:25<themill>Litfas: exim4 is part of the standard debian installation. You may hae previously not had it but it's not surprising that something dragged it in. /msg dpkg why an mta
12:25<jordanm>Litfas: otherwise, upgrading say, cron, could pull it in as it recommends it
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12:27<jordanm>Litfas: it should only listen on 127.0.0.1 by default
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12:29<Litfas>ok, thanks. has there been a change in cron's recommends?
12:29<weasel>unlikely
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12:30<Litfas>oh well, some aptitude install maybe
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12:30<knoppix_>que hay
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12:31<Guest866>bieen
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12:31<Guest866>hooooooooooooo
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12:32<mrvn>UDEV question: 'udevadm test /block/sda' creates /dev/sda. 'udevadm trigger' does not. Ideas?
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12:40<infinite>Thanks Locklace It seems to have worked, I dont have a freeze up yet
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12:42<elfranne>ping ?
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12:43<elfranne>anyone see my messages ?
12:43<robsonpeixoto>elfranne, yep
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12:45<elfranne>just to be sure... on some irc servers you need to register to talk
12:45<elfranne>thx anyway
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12:47<Nekroman>Hello. I have nVidia graphic card (7
12:47<Nekroman>7300 gt and I need to accelerate HD video
12:47<Nekroman>Can you help me?
12:48<Martian67_>"We're trying to figure out what the future of search is," Mr Schmidt said. “One idea is that more and more searches are done on your behalf without you needing to type.
12:48<Martian67_>"I actually think most people don't want Google to answer their questions. They want Google to tell them what they should be doing next."
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12:50<Nekroman>I found something on google but some pages write that linux driver for nvidia cards can't decode HD video and some pages write that is here a chance to use som plugins etc. but i try and it's didn't running so i want know your opinion. (sorry for very bad english)
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12:59<bgat>is this the right place to ask a question about problems I'm having with creating my own .deb from my own kernel modules?
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13:04<blast_hardcheese>Hooray! Display works!
13:04<blast_hardcheese>Turns out SAVAGE has an option "UseBIOS" that requires the BIOS support the correct resolution
13:05<blast_hardcheese>As my BIOS doesn't support 1280x600, it was failing.
13:05<blast_hardcheese>Just took careful reading of Xorg.0.log to find
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13:06<blast_hardcheese>One last question; Attempting to install Japanese fonts, I've installed xfonts-international-japanese, but for whatever reason I still get unknown character blocks wherever japanese text would be used
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13:11<blast_hardcheese>jordanm: Thank you very much for your help in tracking this problem down, thanks for the modeline tip cahoot
13:11<cahoot>np
13:14<blast_hardcheese>Any thoughts on japanese fonts?
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13:48<fas3r>can i specify two or three or more domain in the main.cf for the value myorigin= for postfix ?
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14:04<abrotman>fas3r: you'd probably want to ask #postfix on freenode, but i'd guess no
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14:19<thomas>?
14:19<thomas>hello
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14:40<bgat>can someone walk me through building an out-of-tree kernel module using the debian tools? I have one that I'm trying to package...
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14:48<thafreak>Hello, is there a debian channel specific to xen or virt?
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15:00<retrospectacus>!xen
15:00<dpkg>Xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, allowing several guest operating systems to execute concurrently on the same system. Provides paravirtualization (requiring guest OSs to be modified/ported) and hardware-assisted virtualization (for running guests unmodified). For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>.
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15:03<thafreak>oh...nice thanks retrospectacus! didn't know you could do that!
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15:04<thafreak>Oh, and congrats everyone on 17 years of debian awesomness!
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15:17<mao>hello, how can i contact secuirty team via IRC?
15:18<mao>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2010-2240
15:18<mao> Priority: urgent Severity: high
15:18<mao>http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2010/08/skeletons-hidden-in-linux-closet.html
15:18<mao>http://www.invisiblethingslab.com/resources/misc-2010/xorg-large-memory-attacks.pdf
15:18<bremner>mao: try #debian-security, I think
15:18<mao>tl;dr: local Kernel vulun using X server
15:19<mao>thanks
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15:20<alejandro>?
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15:21<alejandro>hola
15:21<retrospectacus>!es
15:21<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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15:24<alejandro>?
15:25<alejandro>que chingados es esto?
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15:25<retrospectacus>alejandro: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian.
15:26<alejandro>aaah si, gracias
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15:26<retrospectacus>por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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15:48<GhostlyDeath>Hello, in 2.6.32-5-openvz-686 any task related to USB just hangs the process. lsusb hangs and never responds and cannot be killed using kill -9, any other things that use USB also fail and hang
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15:49<GhostlyDeath>The highest function in the stack trace is [<c1041d7a>] ? lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35
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16:15<amanita>Do you know any virtual-dub equivalent written in gtk?
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16:17<quitte>is it normal to get an authentication error when installing apt-utils on i386 right now?
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16:19<quitte>amanita: what do you use virtualdub for? it's been years that i used it once.
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16:22<amanita>quitte: I am looking for some kind of ffmpeg encoder gui. I used to convert divx avi to standard mpeg-1
16:22<amanita>qitte: oh and replacing the sound in a video then encode it
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16:23<quitte>amanita: try transcode as a search term for your package manager
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16:24<User_San>hello, i need help. I have installed apache2 on lenny but i can't run cgi. please help
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16:24<User_San_Go>hello, i need help. I have installed apache2 on lenny but i can't run cgi. please help
16:25<User_San_Go><sorry for repeat, i was kicked before, so i need to identify myself>
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16:32<mao>i jizzed
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16:35<quitte>hmm. to enjoy the inapproprateness or to call for ops?
16:36<mao>damn
16:36<mao>sorry, that was amsg
16:36<mao>i forgot i was in this channel
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16:41<dpkg>emidio: VATTENE VIA!
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16:42<dpkg>emidio: VATTENE VIA!
16:42<emidio>perchè
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16:42<emidio>perchè dpkg ha scritto "VATTENE VIA! "?
16:45<moldovean>emidio, perchè lei ha scritto "!list " ?
16:46<moldovean> ai*
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17:05<JUANKAR>good night
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17:08<v3r0n1c4>hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
17:09<v3r0n1c4>i_i
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17:10<@Ganneff>try it with real content
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17:52<dubert>What's the best channel for package related help?
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18:08<retrospectacus>!qotd0
18:08<dpkg>* Guerin was enough drunks last night
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18:22<russellcox>Testing
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18:22<sney`>hmm, interesting
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18:23<russellcox>i was seeing if anyone would answer it was silent for a while
18:23<sney`>I just finally got around to updating one of my machines to the 2.6.32 kernel (yes, it's been that long since a reboot) and now the link and act lights on my wifi nic are blinking in unison about once a second
18:24<sney`>everything is working fine, it's just weird. I didn't think ath5k changed significantly from 2.6.30 to 2.6.32.
18:24<sney`>and I hope it isn't indicative of a problem to come.
18:24<russellcox>cool
18:25<russellcox>i have a installable app in a sh file how do i install that
18:25<bremner>with great caution
18:25<bremner>do you trust the people you got it from?
18:25<russellcox>yes
18:26<bremner>would you tell them your root password?
18:26<russellcox>NO
18:26<bremner>well, the way you usually install those things is run the script as root, which is pretty dangerous
18:26<russellcox>its a game that is in ubuntus software list
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18:27<russellcox>so drag it into terminal?
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18:28<sney`>ubuntu's software list?
18:28<russellcox>i know im not an operator!
18:28<sney`>!ubuntu
18:28<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
18:29<russellcox>ok
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18:31<sney`>I will never understand the merits of a computer OS that is designed to create users that have no idea how to use a computer.
18:31<sney`>/offtopic
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18:33<cthuluh>sney`: without trying to guess which OS you are talking about, I'd say "money" ;)
18:34<sney`>cthuluh: a few. ubuntu, OSX. windows doesn't really try to do that, they have their hands full enough just with usability issues
18:35<sney`>and they don't hide system functionality on the grounds that "oh, the users won't need to see that."
18:35*sney` end rant
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18:45<ewoerner>hi, i'm having keyboard troubles booting the 2.6.32-5 linux kernel
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18:46<ewoerner>keyboard is not working, therefore i can't get my / partition unencrypted
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18:47<ewoerner>working fine with the 2.6.32-2 kernel, *not* working with 2.6.32-5, 2.6.34-1, 2.6.34-trunk
18:47<ewoerner>(always talking about -686)
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18:48<ewoerner>any suggestions?
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18:52<jordanm>ewoerner: check for existing bugs, file one if not
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18:54<pawelb84>hey, i'm using debian squeeze/sid, is there any way to ping unmanagable switch? maybe by MAC address ?
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18:55<ewoerner>jordanm: "check for existing bugs" in linux-2.6 is like searching for a needle in a haystack, that's why i was asking here first
18:56<jordanm>ewoerner: I aggree. hopefully the title would include the keyword "keyboard" though
18:56<devil>ewoerner: lenny, squeeze, sid?
18:56<ewoerner>devil: mainly sid
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18:57<devil>ewoerner: do you have a xorg.conf still?
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18:57<ewoerner>devil: i don't get my *root* partition unencrypted
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18:58<devil>ewoerner: i got that much. but you will have to get access to the system somehow
18:58<ewoerner>devil: there's only /boot at that stage
18:58<ewoerner>so no xorg
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19:00<devil>ewoerner: i would boot a working kernel and fix things (adapt to the new ways of handling keyboards)
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19:01<ewoerner>handling of keyboards hasn't changed between 2.6.32-3 and 2.6.32-5 kernel
19:01<ewoerner>you have to plug them in
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19:02<ewoerner>i'm sorry, that was just bitchy
19:02<kinchou>hello, does anyone know how to change the font size in awesomewm, I changed the theme font but it does not apply to applications like iceweasel and such, anyone have a clue?
19:03<devil>ewoerner: it has changed sometime around there, i recall many user problems in our sidux channel
19:03<ewoerner>devil: yes, i know, but that's for a later stage of the booth
19:03<ewoerner>*boot
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19:04<devil>ewoerner: right, i know nill of encryption
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19:04<devil>other than everything but /boot is encrypted
19:05<ewoerner>no / => no sysvinit, no hal, no xorg, ...
19:05<ewoerner>we're talking about 1 second after grub
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19:09<blarson>kinchou: when dpi was set wrong, iceweasel used an unreadable font. Fixed with xrandr --dpi 100
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19:13<kinchou>blarson, that makes the font more readable, but I still cannot change ir
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19:13<kinchou>blarson. change it*
19:13<iremedy>hello all
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19:25<GhostlyDeath>Why does every application want to open stuff in WINE?
19:26<GhostlyDeath>I go to epiphany, then go to view page source and it opens in notepad
19:26<GhostlyDeath>Why not gedit?
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19:26<GhostlyDeath>Shouldn't non Windows programs get priority when being associated with files?
19:27<jordanm>GhostlyDeath: what version of debian?
19:27<GhostlyDeath>Squeeze
19:28<GhostlyDeath>Alot of stuff in Nautilus just points to some WINE app, HTML files open in Winebrowser
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19:30<GhostlyDeath>Can't view the source of a page since notepad sucks
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19:31<GhostlyDeath>Also, USB doesn't work in Squeeze either, all freezes in lock_timer_base
19:33<devil>GhostlyDeath: you were playing with wine?
19:33<GhostlyDeath>devil: I rarely use it
19:34<GhostlyDeath>I just installed it, that's the only use i've done with it
19:34<devil>i never used wine and i never seen any file associations to wine
19:35<GhostlyDeath>well, everything seems to want to associate to wine for me
19:35<devil>but i never used nautilus either
19:35<GhostlyDeath>I don't use nautilus
19:35<GhostlyDeath>But epiphany-browser is a GNOME browser which uses it's settings
19:36<GhostlyDeath>pngs are associated to wine also
19:36<devil>and usb works in squeeze ansd sid here
19:36<GhostlyDeath>devil: USB works but then it stops workinmg
19:36<GhostlyDeath>A reboot is required to fix it
19:36<devil>you seem to have a misconfigured system
19:36<GhostlyDeath>Currently, if I run lsusb, it doesn't die
19:37<GhostlyDeath>USB had no problems in lenny
19:37<GhostlyDeath>So I doubt that it would be misconfigured
19:37<devil>you need to look at dmesg to get cliues on the usb issues
19:37<GhostlyDeath>It shows the same hung task information
19:38<GhostlyDeath>Starts off in bluetoothd
19:38<devil>on all usb ports?
19:38<GhostlyDeath>syscall_call -> sys_ioctl -> do_page_fault -> ...
19:38<GhostlyDeath>devil: No ports work
19:39<devil>uh, too late at night to get into that, sorry
19:40<GhostlyDeath>http://pastebin.com/HAzcdT80
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19:42<GhostlyDeath>devil: The system reports devices that are no longer plugged in
19:43<devil>are any bluetooth devices connected when that happens?
19:43<GhostlyDeath>always
19:45<pawelb84>hey, i'm using debian squeeze/sid, is there any way under debian to trace layer 2 as well ?
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19:48<GhostlyDeath>layer 2?
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19:52<pawelb84>GhostlyDeath: yes, mostly switches are using layer 2
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19:54<Martian67>pawelb84, what do you mean "trace layer two"
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19:54<Martian67>rip
19:54<GhostlyDeath>pawelb84: switches?
19:54<GhostlyDeath>Network?
19:54<sney`>we don't need no stinking switches.
19:55<GhostlyDeath>I believe wireshark can monitor network traffic
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19:55<sney`>as can ettercap.
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19:55<pawelb84>If you traceoute between two machines, a switch (a L2 device) will not show up, even if it has a management interface with an IP on the same subnet as your two machines. Routers will show up, because they are L3 devices
19:56<pawelb84>GhostlyDeath: ok, i'll try it.
19:56<GhostlyDeath>switches are really meant to be invisible on the network
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19:59<pawelb84>GhostlyDeath: maybe i'm thinking straigtforward, but if there's a problem in network, and you have couple of unmanagable swithces, wouldn't be easier to be able to check, if they're ok or not as well?
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20:00<sney`>unmanaged switches are usually troubleshot by switching out with one that is known to be good, or watching the blinkenlights
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20:03<pawelb84>sney`: if you don't have one that is good or blinking does not telling you a lot?
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20:07<GhostlyDeath>If anything related to USB keeps dying in lock_timer_base in the kernel, would a debug kernel help at all?
20:08<GhostlyDeath>With the debug kernel would it be possible to obtain information on that function?
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20:16<edbian>See Debian 6.0 has been frozen. How long until a release date is set?
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20:18<bremner>no one knows the answer to that.
20:19<Resident_Geek>I'm having the same problem as: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=52574
20:19<Resident_Geek>squeeze on amd64, touchpad stopped working suddenly
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20:19<Resident_Geek>I didn't think I installed anything relevant
20:19<kop>edbian: Look at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ and project the green line down to 0.
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20:20<edbian>I see it appears to be on the way down.
20:20<edbian>kop, Thanks
20:20<Resident_Geek>xorg.conf is at http://paste.debian.net/84237/, relevant parts of Xorg.0.log are at http://paste.debian.net/84236/
20:20<Resident_Geek>can anyone help?
20:22<cthuluh>Resident_Geek: do you know synclient?
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20:39<t3stf1re>?
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20:47<cthuluh>¿
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20:48<Pryon>¡
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20:49<moldovean>->
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20:56<tosted>some place for epiphany compiling help?
20:57<NickyP>is there a free pdf reader?
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20:58<cthuluh>xpdf, epdfviewer, evince
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20:58<devil>okular
20:59<cthuluh>kde @#@#!?! <troll>
20:59<devil>?
20:59-!-Resident_Geek [~Resident_@wl-west1-pat.netcom.duke.edu] has joined #debian
20:59<cthuluh>just kidding
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20:59<devil>way funny :P
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21:02<tosted>tosted
21:03<cthuluh>toasted?
21:03<tosted>cthuluh, yeah!!! my nick...
21:03<tosted>:p
21:04<tosted>where usualy are plugins to epiphany-browser?
21:05<cthuluh>in aptitude, no?
21:05<tosted>no
21:05<tosted>i ve tried without success
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21:06<cthuluh>extensions, extensions-more...?
21:06<moldovean>devil, still sidux user supporter ?
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21:06<devil>moldovean: sure
21:06<moldovean>;)
21:07<tosted>!dpkg
21:07<dpkg>methinks dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>.
21:07<tosted>!dpkg fucku
21:08<moldovean>tosted, stop it
21:08<cthuluh>tosted: are you being funny?
21:08<cthuluh>tosted: /msg dpkg fucku
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21:11<Resident_Geek>anyone have any ideas for a synaptics touchpad that suddenly stopped working?
21:12<cthuluh>Resident_Geek: did you try synclient?
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21:12<Resident_Geek>as above, http://paste.debian.net/84237/ and http://paste.debian.net/84236/ have my xorg.conf and the relevant parts of Xorg.0.log, respectively
21:12<Resident_Geek>synclient has never worked for me, because SHMConfig is disabled
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21:13<Resident_Geek>I could try to get it enabled, but Xorg doesn't seem to care what I put in xorg.conf, it ignores it and configures the mouse automatically
21:13<cthuluh>I remember that synclient did not explicitely require SHMConfig stuuff to work on debian squeeze, four months ago
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21:14<Resident_Geek>The output from synclient -m 100 is "Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?"
21:14<cthuluh>dpkg: tell Resident_Geek about touchpad
21:14<cthuluh>oh...
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21:15<tosted>!hi dpkg
21:15<Resident_Geek>yep, I've tried all that
21:16<themill>tosted: the bot is tired... leave it alone for a while
21:16<Resident_Geek>rebooted several times, reloaded the psmouse module with option imps2, fiddled around with several combinations of xorg.conf, including a known-good one
21:17<tosted>themill, why man??? i ve work hard today, leave alone!!!
21:17<Resident_Geek>reinstalled xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, too
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21:28<bremner>tosted: then bug the bot in private
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21:43<GhostlyDeath>After plugging in a USB device, dmesg gives me: "[ 457.640044] ohci_hcd 0000:03:05.1: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ."
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21:47<GhostlyDeath>then khubd hangs at usb_kill_urb -> printk; and lsusb hangs at usbdev_open
21:47<GhostlyDeath>which those functions are in usbcore
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21:47<GhostlyDeath>using 2.6.32-5-openvz-686 #1 SMP Sat Jul 24 04:42:22 UTC 2010 i686
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22:36<LK->Hey, which apache conf file, do I edit to make /var/www/bugzilla allow cgi?, I know what I have to add, i'm just not sure which conf file exactly to add it to, and yes I have googled :P
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22:39<rpgdude>anyone know how to include a local package to a pbuilder build?
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22:40<rpgdude>im building a package that requires another package i have built
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23:01<TCW>http://paste.debian.net/84256/ <- I did install this kernel from experimental yesterday on another box with imho the same command syntax... now it fails due to unmet deps, but a-c policy shows they can be resolved... what do I miss there?
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23:04<PovAddict>command-not-found says swfdump is in the swftools package, but swftools is not in the archive, wtf?
23:04<PovAddict>http://paste.debian.net/84258/
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