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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-08-27

---Logopened Fri Aug 27 00:00:02 2010
00:00<rSw>i wondering if somebody could help me update my curent debian lenny to the new 2.6.35 version
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00:05<DennisTheTiger>rSw: there you go. =^_^=
00:06<rSw>so will that give me the that 2.6.35 kernel ?
00:08<rSw>cos i want that kernel with the ck patch it supossed to be good for gameserver
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02:02<haarkar>Всем здравствуйте!
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02:06<haarkar>может кто помочь настроить звук или хоть ссылку кинуть куда щемиться? Установил ALSA, запускаю alsaconf все проходит нормально, но в конце выдает amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
02:07<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ or use English here.
02:08<haarkar>i'm sorry.
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02:12<cahoot>haarkar: make sure you're member of audiogroup
02:12<haarkar>I have a bit problem with sound. I install ALSA, start "alsaconf", all run normal, but in the end program write "amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory" What`s this? What can i do? No sound.
02:12<haarkar>i member in audio group
02:12<cahoot>'id' confirms that?
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02:15<haarkar>that this? I dont know... I not long time in debian... Sorry
02:16<cahoot>just run id in a terminal to see what groups you effectively is member of
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02:17<haarkar>thanks. 29(audio)
02:19<jm_>haarkar: and you can see a card listed in /proc/asound/cards?
02:19<jm_>and 'amixer info' returns some controls?
02:19<jm_>shows even
02:20<haarkar>asound -l ? one moment
02:20<haarkar>soory not this comand
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02:21<cahoot>haarkar: see if these simple steps fixes your problem: alsa force-reload; /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0; speaker-test -t wav -c2
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02:26<haarkar>test is ok. i hear sound... left right front...
02:26<cahoot>problem solved?
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02:27<cahoot>haarkar: (btw) ctrl-c to stop speaker-test
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02:30<haarkar>i mounted disk, in this system i have not music
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02:31<cahoot>you have sound but your musicplayer gives no audible output?
02:32<haarkar>yahooo!!! I have sound!!! Thank you very much!!!
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02:50<Guest956>sorry, boss look, that i not work...
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04:49<v>Помогите решить проблему с иксами
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04:50<xxtjaxx>v: anglisky paschalsta
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04:52<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ or use English here.
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04:53<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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04:54<dpkg>i guess at is a delayed job execution and batch processing program, or IBM's second-generation PC (Advanced Technology), or Austria, or OK
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04:55<dpkg>rumour has it, sl is a very useful spell checker if you often mistype ls. Exists as a Debian package.
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05:08*cthuluh <3 sl
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06:04<ao2>ItalianPlumber, you made me think to Mario bros; if this is actually the wished effect of your nickname, let me tell you, it's a *great* nickname.
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06:19<hendry>i have screwed up the /etc/apache2 configuration and I'm wondering how to reset to default maintainer /etc scripts
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06:43<future>debian ilove
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06:50<darsie>How should I make mcedit my sensible-editor?
06:51<darsie>system wide
06:51<darsie>edit /etc/alternatives/editor?
06:52<cahoot>IIRC update-alternatives
06:52<darsie>read 'man update-alternatives'?
06:52<darsie>ok ... I'll give it another try.
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06:54<cahoot>update-alternatives --config editor
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06:55-!-darsie [] has left #debian [Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is]
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07:00<ItalianPlumber>a02: yup... that's the nick :)
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07:00<ItalianPlumber>it comes from the license plate "My boss is an Italian plumber" which is a parody of "My boss is a Jewish Carpenter"
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07:55<jsn>hey folks,
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07:56<jsn>wich image would be the best, to start an old powerbookg4 from cd??
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07:57<jsn>i took the debian-testing-kde-cd1.iso from
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08:51<chaos>i have a dell r210 and i'm trying to install squeeze on it
08:51<chaos>netinstall that is
08:52<chaos>it cries for driver bnx2-mips-09-4.6.17.fw
08:52<chaos>what do i do? :)
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08:56<ffws>get firmware-bnx2
08:58<chaos>where does aptitude put the downloaded .deb files/
08:59<chaos>ahh.. current dir
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09:24<bgat>would there be a problem with running instances of apt-proxy and reprepro off the same directory tree?
09:24<bgat>(one instance of each)
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10:01<vishnu>hi all. how can i download old debian-user mailing lists ?
10:02<devil>there is archives on nabble and others
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10:03<vishnu>ok. is there any way to download mails in the e-mail format
10:03<kmap>vishnu: You can get them as mbox in two ways.
10:04<kmap>Hold on, let me look
10:04<kmap>vishnu: Method 1:
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10:05<kmap>vishnu: Method 2: http://l.d.o/cgi-bin/mbox/list-yyymm
10:05<kmap>(BTW, that feature is undocumented, so don't tell anyone) ;-)
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10:08<bgat>so I'm doing a make-kpkg ... binary, and it dies here:
10:08<bgat>install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 /home/bgat/cat/opusa1rvc/linux-2.6.28/debian/linux-headers-
10:08<bgat>install: cannot change owner and permissions of `/home/bgat/cat/opusa1rvc/linux-2.6.28/debian/linux-headers-': Operation not permitted
10:08<bgat>but make-kpkg ... kernel_headers seems to work fine. anyone have any ideas?
10:09<vishnu>thanks for the links. i am looking into them. by the way method 2 is not working.
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10:18<kmap>vishnu: It works for me
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10:18<kmap>wget;mutt -f ./debian-devel-201008
10:18<vishnu>kmap | it is not working for me. should i type the url in webbrowser
10:19<kmap>vishnu: No
10:19<kmap>You are supposed to type it in a terminal
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10:19<kmap>Well, you can type the http part in a browser
10:20<kmap>And then save the file
10:20<kmap>But to view it, you still need something which can read/import mbox files
10:20<vishnu>i am on a windows machine
10:21<kmap>Google gives me something like this:
10:21<kmap>But then, that is off topic for this channel. Please search for an mbox viewer for Windows.
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10:26<vishnu>kmap thank you
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10:28<kmap>vizor: Welcome
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10:29<vizor>kmap: hi
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10:43<franck_>hye all
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10:51<mm>squeeze is so cool
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10:53<mm>who can help me how to operating the c math lib in
10:53<mm>math lib
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10:56<kop>!tell mm about ask
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11:01<mihkel>Hi. I installed sun-java6-plugin (because I need sun version), but when I go to this page to verify installation
11:01<mihkel>I get an error
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11:02<jordanm>mihkel: update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun
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11:08<mihkel>jordanm, now I don't get that error any more, but also the plugins won't load
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11:20<mihkel>strange icedtea6-plugin works fine on that test page, but sun-java6-plugin won't.
11:20<iman>except of pidgin, whats the best chat tools ?
11:20<mihkel>and I NEED sun java. damn
11:21<Torsten_W>iman, except of a ferrari, whats the best sports car?
11:21<mihkel>iman, empathy is what I use
11:21<iman>Torsten_W, lamborgini
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11:21<iman>mihkel, thank you
11:22<iman>mihkel, because pidgin has some problem in debian
11:23<jordanm>iman: the pidgin problems can be resolved by using the version from lenny-backports
11:23<jordanm>!tell iman about bpo
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11:24<iman>jordanm, sorry, i dont know whats the bpo ?
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11:25<jordanm>iman: see your PM from dpkg
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11:26<eb0x> com barra na frente , tenta ai
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11:31<mihkel>when I launch firefox from cli I get:
11:31<mihkel>on that test page
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11:33<iman>i used fedora for one year and now i installed debian last day, i get pidgin with apt-get, but i think i have to change path of repository?
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11:35<dpkg> is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added: "aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update". <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> <backports-users> <bpo kernel>
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11:49<jpinx-eeepc>iman: use aptitude pleease
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11:50<iman>jpinx-eeepc, E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
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11:50<jpinx-eeepc>iman: as root
11:50<iman>jpinx-eeepc, yes
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11:51<iman>jpinx-eeepc, but i have same prbolem
11:51<iman>jpinx-eeepc, W: Could not lock the cache file; this usually means that dpkg or another apt tool is already installing packages. Opening in read-only mode; any changes you make to the states of packages will NOT be preserved!
11:51<iman>E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
11:51<iman>sorry, i haven't paste here, sorry all
11:51<jpinx-eeepc>iman: use ps to find the process using apt
11:52<jpinx-eeepc>or using dpkg
11:53<iman>jpinx-eeepc, i am reading dpkg to use it
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11:55<iman>i think debian is best linux and its very logical
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11:57<iman>dpkg, for what i get this error : 404 Not Found
11:57<dpkg>You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, iman
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12:01<iman>i added dpkg path to /etc/path/source.list and the reload it with synaptic
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12:02<smv>iman, it should be /etc/apt/sources.list
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12:06<iman>smv, yes, but i faces this error W: GPG error: lenny-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C
12:07<mjt>this is in bpo faq
12:07<smv>iman, run this as root: aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update
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12:08<mjt>i wonder why people needs another set of instruction on irc besides the one that's available in the right place...
12:08<iman>debian users are very kind to help, thank you a lot
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12:10<locklace>mjt: because the people in question are too stupid even to be lazy effectively
12:10<kincho>hey all, I'm running sudo update-grub and it appears to update something, but it doesn't really do anyrhing and I cant fix my boot menu, any ideas?
12:11<locklace>kincho: you could try explaining what's wrong with your boot menu. and, you know, providing other basic relevant information like what version of debian you're using
12:11<iman>locklace, mjt : thank you
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12:12<kincho>locklace: I have 32 and 64 bit, both sid installs, and I want to fix it because it puts 32 bit before 64 and 64 is my main system
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12:14<locklace>kincho: man grub-set-default
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12:18<iman>i have a problem so, i think my device sound is not install, becuase i cant listen any thing
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12:19<iman>how can i found it ? i search in system -> preferences -> sound
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12:24<dominick>hi, how do I use the sudoer's password to perform administration in Gnome GUI?
12:24<jordanm>dominick: gksudo
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12:31<dominick>jordanm, I can do that from the shell itself, but I'm looking to eliminate the use to give root password when you click on System>Administration>*
12:33<jordanm>dominick: why?
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12:34<dominick>dominick, I wish to lock the root account! Have been using it a little too frequently, so was looking for a way to use the sudoer's password instead!
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12:37<jordanm>dominick: I don't recommend doing that
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12:37<jordanm>"simon says" is not very good security
12:38<dominick>jordanm, hmm. okay, but why?
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12:42<jordanm>dominick: because you are basically making a single user account as powerful as root
12:43<kuun-lann>i've got a problem with a dualboot setup win/debian. I use a onboard soundcard and if i'm on win, my speakers are connected to Front and only Front! But on Debian, i got sound only if speaker are connected to Rear (its stereo speakers) .I try to configure, route but it doesnt work..anyone can help me plz?
12:43<jordanm>dominick: the same user used to get on IRC and browse the web
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12:44<dominick>jordanm, hmm! good point, i'll be using the same password, wouldn't I?
12:44<jordanm>kuun-lann: did you check mixer settings to see if front is muted?
12:44<jordanm>dominick: I don't, and would not recommend it
12:44<kuun-lann>jordanm, i try lots of things and i'm bit confused ... in alsamixer i have only : master and PCM at 100%
12:44<dominick>jordanm, okay, but if there's a way, what would it be?
12:44<kuun-lann>JohnDoh, i dont have front/rear/ etc..
12:45<kuun-lann>jordanm, i dont have front/rear/ etc..
12:45<kuun-lann>JohnDoh, sorry incorrect tabulation :)
12:45<jordanm>dominick: what command do the icons run? do they use su-to-root?
12:46<jordanm>kuun-lann: sure the extra options are not off-the-screen? you might be able to move all the way right and see more options
12:47<dominick>jordanm, how do I find out? (I think they do su-to-root as they ask me for the root password.) Can I change the command somewhere?
12:47<kuun-lann>jordanm, extra options ? i can see with right arrow ? or a special key?
12:47<jordanm>dominick: su-to-root is what selects the frontend to use, and can be defined by an env variable. ideally, thats when it will use
12:48<jordanm>dominick: add the icon to your desktop and look at the properties
12:48<jordanm>kuun-lann: right arrow
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12:48<kuun-lann>jordanm, no i ty i've got only master/pcm and i touch F5 and Capture/.Digital have been added... But all are at 100 !
12:49<jordanm>kuun-lann: what version of debian? are you using pulseaudio?
12:50<kuun-lann>jordanm, its a lenny .. i dont know if i use pulseaudio..i'm looking for
12:50<kuun-lann>jordanm, i dont have pulseaudio
12:50<jordanm>!alsa checklist
12:50<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>.
12:50<jordanm>kuun-lann: outside of the checklist, I am really not sure
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12:51<kuun-lann>i try
12:51<kuun-lann>jordanm, y try the checklist
12:51<dominick>jordanm, now I see, I can only change the command from gksu to gksudo. How do I change the command? I don't think i'll do the env variable thing, as it'd expose my system! (I'm doing it for my dumb girlfriend)
12:52<jordanm>dominick: edit the .desktop file or use the gnome proprietaries gui
12:52<jordanm>gah, that was terrible spelling
12:52<kuun-lann>jordanm, i realisze that the "m" key doesnt mute in alsamixer... i can only decreaser with down arrow unless it reaches 0 ... is it normal?
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12:53<jordanm>kuun-lann: no
12:53<jordanm>kuun-lann: it should show "mm" under the volume for muted
12:53<kuun-lann>jordanm, ergg i didnt have that :/
12:56<kuun-lann>jordanm, i dont understand whats happend :/
12:56<jordanm>kuun-lann: you can try #alsa on
12:57<kuun-lann>i try already but nobody answer :/
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12:58<kuun-lann>jordanm, i'm gonna plug an other sound card i think :/
12:59<kuun-lann>thx anymway jordanm
12:59<kuun-lann>goodbye !
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13:06<janca>hello all! I am having a little issue with patching a file which I obviously don't have. Could anyone help me please? Last message of this bug explains everything
13:06<dedt>This should be a simple solution - I'm haing the exact same problem as this guy:
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13:07<locklace>janca: it's part of the kernel source
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13:08<Michalxo>locklace, linux-source-xxx package, right? :-)
13:09<dominick>jordanm, I've found the /etc/xdg/menu/ ! It has a certain line <Filename>gnomecc.desktop</Filename> ! I'm unable to locate the gnomecc.desktop file!
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13:09<locklace>Michalxo: the first suggestion was to try 2.6.35, did you already do that
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13:09<Michalxo>I am running it right now... :(
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13:10<locklace>Michalxo: ok. i myself just get the kernel source from and build it
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13:10<locklace>Michalxo: using make-kpkg to make it into a debian package. /msg dpkg kernel-package
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13:11<Michalxo>locklace, is there any "how to" for kernel module patching?
13:12<locklace>Michalxo: well, that one's so simple you can just insert the new lines manually
13:12<dedt>Has anybody looked at my problem? Its more or less enabling php read access to my /var/vmail/ folder, which is owned by vmail. How should I do that?
13:12<locklace>Michalxo: or you can use patch(1) if you feel like it
13:12<Michalxo>ok then :-) thank you so far :-)
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13:17<jordanm>dominick: .desktop files should be in /usr/share/applications
13:18<jordanm>they are not considered configuration files
13:18<dominick>jordanm, I figured through help. I'm looking for the file that changes the login screen!
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13:25<dpkg>mario_: VATTENE VIA!
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13:29<Michalxo>locklace, ok, so I've patched it... now.. do you use "make config" or that make-kpkg? (??)
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13:30<Michalxo>ow I think I got it now... I am trying that make-kpkg :-)
13:31<mmarker>I have a webhost where I'm limited to x bytes/month. Is there a simple debian package that'll bandwith limit the whole box based on a current usage count?
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13:32<mmarker>Wondershaper and their i'll are great for an average usage, but i would like something a little more adaptive.
13:33<agnostic>omg, on debian again, i had zenwalk linux, mint etc etc but deb is better :)
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13:36<dpkg>mario: VATTENE VIA!
13:36<mario>fare in culo
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13:37<agnostic>i got problem with ln
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13:37<agnostic>where the f... is java installed?
13:38<Michalxo>guys, can I compile just ONE module via make-kpkg?
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13:40<EmleyMoor>I doubt it but is there something in Debian that can automate the handling of notes for Clue?
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13:52<luser>Does it make sense for a DHCP server to give me an IP address in 10.x.y.z, and tell me that the nameserver is 192.168.a.b? (i.e. a non-routable address not on the same net as me.)
13:53<jordanm>luser: why is it non-routable?
13:53<jordanm>makes sense to me if the gateway can get to 192.168.a.b and thats a valid nameserver
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13:57<mmarker>Just means it isn't routable on the tubes of the internets
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14:27<luser>jordanm: 192.168.a.b is not routable as it's in
14:28<jordanm>luser: not routable on the internet. A private WAN could route to such a network
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14:41<manoj_>Hey friends my laptop was working fine but now after i upgraded the security patches my sound has stopped working any idea would be great
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14:42<Gaxnys>Why wont my audigy sound card work? Have a HD5770, if that's relevant
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14:46<locklace>Gaxnys: what version of debian? paste output of cat /proc/asound/cards and lspci -knn at
14:46<Gaxnys>locklace, sound card is installed and all that, but still no sound
14:47<Gaxnys>should mention that my graphics card has sound output för HDMI
14:47<locklace>Gaxnys: if you don't do what you're asked, i'm going to ignore you
14:47<Gaxnys>okay, fine
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14:53<Gaxnys>locklace, did you fall asleep?
14:53<locklace>no, i'm ignoring you. you're wasting my time
14:54<Gaxnys>locklace, i did what you asked me to?
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14:55<Michalxo>faha, Vaclav? :-)
14:55<faha>nene, frantisek
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15:00<faha>Hello everybody, i have just one simple question, is already known release date for Debian 6.0?
15:02<agnostic>can someone help me with creating an shell accout?
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15:03<petemc>!tell faha about wwsr
15:03<petemc>agnostic: adduser
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15:04<agnostic>dude i got problem with
15:04<agnostic>im connectin via ssh>> $ssh
15:04<agnostic>and than asks me a passwd, wich should be newuser
15:04<agnostic>but it doesnt work -.-
15:04<petemc>you'll need to speak to whoever runs that site
15:05<agnostic>i sent mail
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15:05<agnostic>but i thought some knows that here :)
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15:05<agnostic>anyway, do u know any other free shell accounts?
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15:05<petemc>i dont
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15:06<agnostic>i was there :)
15:06<agnostic>hmm exuse the mass, im little drunk hehe
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15:07<bzed>agnostic: shell account sites are kinda offtopic here...
15:08<agnostic>i noticed sorry
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15:13<faha>shellmix info about ssh port ?!? -> If you want try test account (no time limit) you need to log in on port 30 ssh useing SSH
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15:13<cheako>Hello, I've asked this in alsa and pulseaudio with no response.
15:13<cheako>Hello, I would like to record from a digital source. It's not "just working", were can I get the steps I should take?
15:13<cheako>card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887 Digital [ALC887 Digital]
15:14<cheako>All I seam to get is vary light static.
15:14<faha>yes, ssh -p 30 with pass newuser working wall
15:14<cheako>00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
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15:17<agnostic>hmm oka will try
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15:17<agnostic>lol, i didnt put -p parametr -.-
15:18<cheako>12CR1-1SPINO-12R I've connected optically using this backplate, my STR-DG600
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15:23<user01>6 is frozen now? cool :)
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15:24<user01>i think i had an issue with networking in my testing vmware
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15:28<user01>whohooo it works now :)
15:28<user01>reboot worked with vmtools reinstall
15:28<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
15:29<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
15:29<user01>I thought it kicked you of you went beyond 3 lines?
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15:30<michalxo>guys, is here anyone to help me how to compile/build just ONE specific module?
15:30<user01>michalxo: what module?
15:30<michalxo>I've just compiled whole kernel and lost 2 hours.. and I got kernel panic :-(
15:31<michalxo>well.. patched radeon_combios.c file
15:32<user01>hmmm i dont know about that, sorry :(
15:33<michalxo>is there anyone else who could help me? :-/
15:33<user01>they told me not to recompile stuff like that if i wanted to keep my system stable so i didnt
15:33<michalxo>thanks anyway user01
15:33<michalxo>that's true, but I have to, cause my laptop can't suspend :-(
15:33<mju>michalxo: do you know about module-assistent?
15:34<user01>mine cant either so i never suspend it
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15:34<dpkg>methinks module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and install them. "aptitude install module-assistant". See usage examples at . Log files from successful (and unsuccessful!) builds can be found in /var/cache/modass/
15:34<michalxo>mju, I've used it, but just copy and pasted it
15:35<michalxo>how can I know in which module does that specific file belongs to?
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15:35<jordanm>michalxo: dpkg -S <package> or apt-file
15:36<jordanm>soryy, dpkg -S <file>
15:37<michalxo>not found :-( janca@watermelon:~/kernel$ dpkg -S radeon_combios.cdpkg: *radeon_combios.c* not found
15:37<michalxo>it's kernel-source file
15:38<michalxo>jordanm, mju last message here
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15:40<michalxo>any help would be appreciated
15:40<mju>michalxo: sorry, I don't know much about kernel building.
15:43<jordanm>michalxo: what is wrong with debian kernels?
15:44<jordanm>michalxo: are you trying to rebuild .34 using alex's patch?
15:44<michalxo>35 in fact...
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15:44<jordanm>,file radeon_combios.c --release experimental
15:45<judd>No packages were found with that file.
15:45<michalxo>and yes, I am doing taht, (trying to) what he adviced..
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15:45<jordanm>,file radeon_combios.c --release sid
15:45<judd>No packages were found with that file.
15:45<jordanm>michalxo: well, it shows you the exact path from the root of the sources
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15:45<jordanm>and that doesn't really matter to you, because you will be applying the patch with patch -p1 from the root of the sources
15:46<michalxo>I know, I don't have that file anywhere, except freshly downloaded
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15:46<jordanm>michalxo: thats the only place you need it
15:46<Humbug>anybody in here happen to be good with php? im using debian 5
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15:46<bgat>can anyone suggest reasons why a make-kpkg's dep-install-arch build target would fail like this?
15:46<jordanm>!tell Humbug about ask
15:46<bgat>install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 /home/bgat/cat/opusa1rvc/linux-2.6.28/debian/linux-headers-
15:46<bgat>install: cannot change owner and permissions of `/home/bgat/cat/opusa1rvc/linux-2.6.28/debian/linux-headers-': Operation not permitted
15:47<michalxo>bgat, try as root
15:47<jordanm>bgat: why are you building .28??
15:47<bgat>the machine I'm working with is an embedded PC, and I'm trying to package the kernel the platform came with
15:47<jordanm>actually, should likely be using fakeroot
15:47<bgat>michalxo: I'm using fakeroot, isn't that enough?
15:47<jordanm>bgat: as-in, not debian?
15:48<Humbug>Im trying to run a php script but it wont execute the shell command im guessing sinc e nothing happening and no erros, runnig debian 5.0 php 5.3.3
15:48<Humbug>woops bad english
15:48<jordanm>Humbug: you are not running debian 5 if you have php 5.3
15:48<bgat>jordanm: technically, the kernel is a generic Ubuntu one :)
15:48<jordanm>Humbug: you are running testing or frakendebian
15:48<Humbug>jordanm why not?
15:48<Humbug>since iam :p
15:48<jordanm>Humbug: because 5.3 is not in debian 5
15:48<bgat>jordanm: but I'm re-hosting the machine on Debian
15:49<Humbug>dotdeb you can
15:49<Humbug>deb stable all
15:49<Humbug>deb-src stable all
15:49<Humbug>with them u get it
15:49<jordanm>Humbug: not supported here
15:49<dpkg>somebody said dotdeb was for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to, but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. There is little reason to use now that backported versions of PHP and MySQL are available from Ask me about <backports> and <>. "aptitude purge ~Vdotdeb"
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15:49<michalxo>jordanm, so you're saying, that I can just copy patched file from downloaded linux-source-2.6.35 via apt into my actual kernel?
15:49<bgat>jordanm: I'm running in a squeeze i386 chroot on a squeeze amd64 machine; could that be a factor?
15:49<jordanm>Humbug: the factoid is old, php is not backported as it breaks most php applications in lenny
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15:50<Humbug>i had it working
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15:50<Humbug>and i need 5.3.3 to get my scripts running
15:50<Humbug>had it working on my old server
15:50<Humbug>a vps
15:50<Humbug>now a dedicated one
15:51<jordanm>Humbug: *not* supported here
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15:51<jordanm>bgat: I wouldn't think so, try as root...
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15:52<bgat>jordanm: can I drop the chroot off at your place for repairs if I break it? :)
15:52<Humbug>crap :S
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15:53<jason>What's up debian crackers?
15:53<jason>we got a live one here
15:53<jason>Who uses debian these days?
15:54<bgat>jordanm: here goes... :)
15:54<jordanm>jason: do you have a support question?
15:54<Humbug>how would i go around and not using php 5.3.3 then?
15:54<bgat>jason: well, let's hear it! :)
15:55<Humbug>any suggestion?
15:55<jordanm>Humbug: #php on
15:55<Humbug>i would downgrade to 5.2 if i can get it to work with that also
15:55<jason>can you assist me in setting up a distributed system on several xbox systems in the interest of testing a new compression algorithm to save/increase network bandwidth usage?>
15:56*bgat doesn't have an xbox
15:56<jason>has 20
15:56<bgat>jason: man, you must have HUGE thumbs! :)
15:56<jason>bgat: lol
15:56<Humbug>jordanm, that channel req invite so not possibl
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15:57<jason>any resources you'd recommed?
15:57<bgat>jason: what do you mean by "distributed system"?
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15:57<jordanm>Humbug: no its not, you probably just need to register with freenode
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15:57<bgat>jordanm: running make-kpkg as root seems to work for me, sadly
15:57<jason>well, I was hoping for something parallel if possible, but I'd need a server to act as shared memory correct?
15:58<jordanm>bgat: shouldn't be required, but whatever works
15:58<jason>otherwise, I suppose I'd have to rely on distributed message passing
15:58<bgat>jordanm: I don't recall if I'm using the Ubuntu-provided debian/, or not. just occurred to me now that I should look into that
15:58<jason>which would be undesirable because of limited network bandwith
15:58<jordanm>jason: I bet if you google around you can find reports of people who have already done such a thing
15:58<bgat>jason: you are talking apples vs. orangutans here
15:59<jason>jordanm: indeed? that sucks.. I was hoping to impress my prof
15:59<jason>bgat: I don't follow you.. what do you mean?
15:59<bgat>jason: well, the term "distributed" is pretty generic
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16:00<bgat>jason: what are seeking to "distribute"? data? computation? file systems?
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16:00<jason>bgat: mmm okay, essentially I want to distribute the computing load of a compression algorithm across several networked systems
16:01<bgat>jason: aah
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16:01<bgat>jason: so you want to do a bunch of parallel calculations on a data set, then?
16:01<jason>bgat: exactly
16:01<bgat>jason: check the Apple App Store, I bet There Is An App For That :)
16:01<bgat>jason: but seriously... :)
16:02<jason>bgat: rofl.,., I'm chocking laughing here
16:02<bgat>I'll go with jordanm on this one, Google is probably your friend
16:02<jason>bgat: do I need to start writing my own protocols?
16:02<bgat>it isn't exactly what you are talking about, but a Beowulf cluster would be headed in the same direction; I'd start looking there first
16:02<jason>bgat: or is there a system already developed for this sort of task?
16:03<jason>mmm ok tyvm
16:03<bgat>there are indeed systems designed specifically for such tasks, and many of them run Linux; I'm just not familiar with any of them
16:04<bgat>jordanm: so my make-kpkg got farther this time, but dies here now:
16:04<bgat>scripts/Makefile.clean:17: /home/bgat/cat/opusa1rvc/linux-2.6.28/debian/linux-source- No such file or directory
16:04<bgat>jordanm: I think I'm going to flush the debian/ directory in this source tree, and see what happens
16:05<user01>are there any audio books on linux?
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16:06<cahoot>run debian reference through festival?
16:06<user01>i know!
16:06<user01>cahoot: thats what i was about to say :)
16:06<user01>cahoot: i was trying to think of something to listen to on the way down to OLF
16:07<user01>7 hours
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16:07<bgat>user01: I think if I tried to listen to a computer-generated voice for 7 hours, I would claw my own eardrums out! :)
16:07<bgat>ESPECIALLY one reading the Debian reference :)
16:08<cahoot>any voice for 7h would be testing
16:08<user01>the man pages
16:08<bgat>the source code
16:08<user01>the compiled binaries
16:11<user01>ill do a linux mix cd i think
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16:15<luser>jordanm - the problem with 192.168.a.b is that vpnc/resolvconf doesn't recognise it as local, and keeps it as a dns namesesrver in resolv.conf
16:16<jordanm>luser: did you miss where I explained that was valid earlier?
16:16<luser>and the routes are set up so that it gets squirted over the vpn tun, rather than straight onto eth0 where it belongs
16:16<jordanm>companies have WANs that consist of mutliple LANs, possibly on private address space, and can route between them
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16:16<luser>jordanm - yes, that's why I'm replying with the consequences of this now-agreed-legal behaviour
16:17<luser>it causes brokenness
16:17<jordanm>luser: your routing causes brokenness
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16:18<luser>it's not my routing, it's dhcp, vpnc and resolvconf who are behind the contents of resolv.conf, I've not authored a single character of it
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16:18<luser>I am a victim of something trying to be too clever
16:19<jordanm>luser: first off, dhcp is going to control your nameserver if you have not removed routers from dhclient.conf
16:19<jordanm>regardless if you have resolvconf, those changes will be overwritten
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16:20<jordanm>although, I think it actually occurs as resolvconf writes the information based on what dhcp supplies, but that irrelevant
16:20<luser>DHCP controls my routers at boot time. It's only when I join the VPN that the resolv.conf becomes broken
16:20<jordanm>luser: so when you join the vpn resolv.conf changes?
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16:21<luser>sort of /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf changes, and /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink there
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16:22<jordanm>luser: is the vpn acquiring and address via dhcp as well?
16:23<luser>I don't know what happens behind my typing in the password. I don't know anything about VPNs, alas
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16:24<jordanm>luser: then how did you manage to set it up?
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16:25<flexomatic>guten Abend
16:25<luser>jordanm - I installed vpnc, typed in the 5 parameters into a .conf file, ran vpnc-connect, and typed in my password - and that was it, I was on the VPN
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16:26<flexomatic>jemand da?
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16:28<jason>Que'est qu tu dit?
16:29<jason>question: some jerk op on #ubuntu banned me for answering a question re: cracking WEP servers.. how can I appeal the banning?
16:29<locklace>jason: that isn't even remotely related to debian. go bitch somewhere else
16:30<locklace>jordanm: you don't get ip addresses in ipsec vpns with dhcp
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16:33<jordanm>locklace: aye, I have never used ipsec
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16:33<luser>jordanm: in the 'advanced usage' section of ``man vpnc-connect'', it mentions getting DNS data, but only in the context of ignoring it, which would not be any good.
16:34<jordanm>luser: it was my understand that is what you wanted to do?
16:34<jason>ok screw #ubuntu.. I need some help with netcat
16:34<jordanm>jason: ubuntu is not supported here
16:34<jordanm>!tell jason about ubuntu
16:35<jordanm>jason: nor do we have anything to do with ubuntu's channels or their ops
16:35<jason>suppose I have a shell account that allows me to run netcat, is there a resource that will help me set it up to run as as a proxy, redirecting HTTP traffic
16:35<luser>jordanm: nope, one of the local DNS servers is being preserved in resolv.conf, but the routing table no longer routes that onto eth0
16:36<locklace>luser: you need to add a route for your 192.168 subnet via your lan gateway
16:37<luser>locklace: can I do that automatically on joining the VPN? I go on and off the VPN a dozen times a day.
16:38<locklace>worry about automation later, first do it and make sure it works
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16:38<luser>good point. I can't try it out now, as it all works from home, it's only the work DHCP that seeds the doesn't-look-local dns-server
16:40<luser>Hmmm, how do I add a route before an existing route? It needs to have priority over the 'default' one
16:40<locklace>longest match wins
16:41<jordanm>there should only be one default route
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16:41<jordanm>route add -net gw x.x.x.x
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16:41<jordanm>err /16
16:41<jordanm>although, I would expect it to actually be /24
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16:44<luser>Ah - didn't know about the priority rules - they've always been listed in sensible priority order
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16:45<locklace>longest match (= most specific) route always wins in ip routing
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16:47<luser>bollocks - I think this means I have to go to work on monday, I was hoping to work from home :-|
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16:57<cheako>Hello, I would like to record from a digital source. It's not "just working", were can I get the steps I should take?
16:57<cahoot>'digital source'?
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16:57<cheako>12CR1-1SPINO-12R I've connected optically using this backplate, my STR-DG600
16:58<cheako>00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
16:58<cheako>card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887 Digital [ALC887 Digital]
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16:59<cheako>There is light coming out, but how can I tell if there is sound...
16:59*cheako looks at his VOM and cries.
16:59<cahoot>cheako: tried arecord -Dhw:0,1 -f cd or such?
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16:59<cheako>I have.
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17:00<cahoot>some crads have a anlog/digtal switch to toggle in alsamixer
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17:02<cheako>Tried all that just now.
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17:02<cheako>What I get out of arecord looks like slight static... and not the 2ch ac3 stream I'm expecting.
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17:03<cheako>arecord -Dhw:0,1 -f cd | hexdump -C
17:04<cheako>00038b40 ac ce 00 80 ac ce 00 80 ac ce 00 80 ac ce 00 80 |................|;*;00038f40 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 00 80 |................|;*
17:04<LuisV>hello, how to download and install nvidia drivers n debian leny?
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17:05<cheako>I'm using pulseaudio, but I'm also trying to use arecord.
17:05<cheako>I'd like to get something that's working.
17:05<locklace>!tell LuisV about nvidia
17:06<s_i_m>does anyone has access to a Debian system with a separate /boot partition? Last time I used it was years ago, I cannot recall if the installer creates a /boot directory on that file system or all files just go to the root of it. Can someone clarify this for me?
17:06<cahoot>cheako: you think arecord can handle ac3?
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17:07<cahoot>cheako: unless you know for sure you need pulse I'd take that out of the equation
17:07<locklace>s_i_m: what do you mean? the file layout looks the same regardless of whether /boot is a separate partition
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17:08<s_i_m>locklace, i am speaking just of the content of that separate boot partition
17:09<locklace>s_i_m: the content is exactly the same as the content of the /boot directory if it isn't a separate partition
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17:09<felixs>s_i_m: usually there is/used to be a symlink boot/ -> . on that partition
17:09<cheako>cahoot: No and I did/have.
17:09<locklace>felixs: not here
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17:10<cheako>The ac2 looks just like PCM and sounds like vary ugly static if it's not detected as ac3.
17:11<LuisV><locklace> thanks anyway, but those instructions from the wiki, are to difficult to me, I was thinking a easy way.
17:11<cheako>...much like Prologic, the main difference being that unless you have the codec you get static.
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17:11<locklace>LuisV: if you want easy just use nv
17:11<LuisV>what's nv?
17:11<dpkg>nv is an Xorg driver for NVIDIA cards, packaged for Debian in xserver-xorg-video-nv. It does not support 3D acceleration with <DRI> and/or GLX. For 3D acceleration, use of the <non-free> "nvidia" driver is required, ask me about <nvidia>. . See also <nouveau>.
17:12<LuisV>ok thanks
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17:15<s_i_m>okay, locklace, if you have grub there, can you confirm also that the "initrd" and "kernel" lines in the respective grub stanzas do not have /boot/ prefix in front of them in your menu.lst?
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17:16<locklace>s_i_m: right, they don't. just /vmlinuz... etc
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17:17<edbian>My campus seems to have given my eth0 a IPv6 address! (Bravo). Is there any functionality for IPv6 on the rest of the internet? Can I ping this address? Do any programs use it yet?
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17:21<panpansh>hi ! anyone can help me for redirect on apache ?
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17:34<jhutchins_lt>edbian: Realistically, no.
17:34<jhutchins_lt>edbian: It's a toy.
17:35<edbian>jhutchins_lt, That's too bad.
17:35<edbian>Hopefully it's just a "toy" for now though.
17:35<edbian>Thank you!
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17:39<arctix>hello everyone, had any of you problem with flash, wich played YT movies through other sites, but not through its own page? It happened to me after i updated my squeeze wich was a bit outdated :/
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17:43<lindi->arctix: what flash player?
17:43<arctix>ver 10,1,999,0
17:44<jhutchins_lt>edbian: Supposedly some of the smart phones use it.
17:44<lindi->arctix: adobe I guess then
17:44<jhutchins_lt>edbian: I wouldn't be surprized if it were obsolete by the time it's widely adopted though.
17:44<lmarcetic>arctix, gnash team says they can play everything now, but you'll have to install it manually:
17:44<lmarcetic>lindi-, wouldn't know about non-free flash.
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17:45<lindi->no need to install manually, just use unstable chroot and install gnash from debian
17:45<arctix>i've triend every flash i have found, so for now im not really sure wich version is it
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17:46<edbian>jhutchins_lt, I may seem naive here. Unless we somehow create more computers than atoms in the universe.
17:46<lmarcetic>lindi-, it's the brand new thing, i doubt even experimental has it.
17:46<lmarcetic>as in: few days old
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17:47<lindi->lmarcetic: Baby uploaded it a few days ago
17:47<panpansh>anyone can help me to redirect https://* to
17:47<panpansh>on apache2
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17:47<arctix>so should I download it through normal aptitude download gnash command?
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17:48<arctix>i meant aptitude install :)
17:48<lindi->arctix: the package is mozilla-plugin-gnash
17:48<lmarcetic>arctix, lindi-'s right
17:49<arctix>reboot necessary?
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17:49<lmarcetic>of iceweasel perhaps, but not the pc
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17:50<lindi->arctix: which version of debian are you running?
17:50<arctix>i've tried to install mozilla-plugin-gnash but nothing installs, so looks like it's already installed
17:51<lmarcetic>you need experimental
17:51<lmarcetic>that's done by:
17:51<dpkg>Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead.
17:52<panpansh>anyone can help me to redirect https://* to
17:52<lindi->arctix: enter about:plugins to location bar
17:53<arctix>lindi-, Shockwave Flash 10.1 r999. Gnash 0.8.7, the GNU SWF Player
17:53<lindi->arctix: ok
17:53<lmarcetic>i think you need version 0.8.8 as i've said: experimental has it
17:54<lindi->arctix: try iceweasel
17:54<arctix>im running chrome browser
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17:55<arctix>but it works well
17:55<lindi->arctix: chromium-browser?
17:56<lindi->lmarcetic: btw, does the video in work for you with gnash 0.8.8? it doesn't here
17:56<arctix>lindi-: google-chrome
17:56<lindi->arctix: but isn't part of debian
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17:57<lmarcetic>lindi-, i don't use it. just heard about it on i watch yt vids using epiphany's youtube extension.
17:57<arctix>lindi-, maybe you're right, but before update it was working with no problem
17:59<jhutchins_lt>arctix: Did you miss the part about "squeeze is testing"?
17:59<jhutchins_lt>arctix: roll back the update.
18:00<lindi->arctix: we can't really support chrome
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18:00<lindi->arctix: with the chromium-browser package it would be possible but it's still very new
18:02<arctix>on iceweasel there is same problem, chromium-browser too
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18:03<arctix>jhutchins_lt, and what do you mean by rolling back the update, how can i do this?
18:03<lindi->arctix: I think youtube needs mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.8-1
18:03<lindi->at least here youtube works with that package and version
18:04<arctix>lindi-, and how can I install this version, when it's older?
18:04<lindi->arctix: how familiar are you with debian?
18:06<arctix>lindi-, not too well, but if it can be done by manuall download and installation from debian repositories, then i can do this
18:06<jhutchins_lt>arctix: Just re-write the snapshot you made before the upgrade.
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18:09<lmarcetic>jhutchins, o.O
18:10<r0ger>if i don't have an audio device on a server, would it be possible to setup a fake device to route the output to another program?
18:11<arctix>lindi-, so what should I do now?
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18:13<lindi->I'm thinking :)
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18:13<lindi->arctix: how much time do you have? ;)
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18:14<jhutchins_lt>lmarcetic: If you're running a release that you KNOW is going to occasionally break on updates, why would you do anything but snapshot it before each update?
18:14<arctix>untill my heart will stop beating ;P
18:14<jhutchins_lt>arctix: 1) Report the bug or add to the existing bugreport
18:15<jhutchins_lt>arctix: 2) Run lenny if you want a system that works.
18:15<lmarcetic>jhutchins_lt, , and how do you do that exactly?
18:15<jhutchins_lt>arctix: 3) Wait for an update if you insist on squeeze.
18:15<jhutchins_lt>lmarcetic: Clonzilla's pretty handy. Or boot from another system and run dd.
18:15<lmarcetic>arctix, i run squeeze/sid just fine. i'd think your problem lies somewhere else.
18:16<lindi->arctix: I personally use a chroot with debian unstable but I'm not sure I can recommend it unless you have the experience
18:16<lmarcetic>lol, i'm not going to do that for a new gnash version.
18:16<jhutchins_lt>If you can't get lenny to do everything you need debian to do, you don't know debian well enough to run sid.
18:16<lindi->lmarcetic: chroot? they are very lightweight
18:16<arctix>jhutchins_lt, i was thinking about it, especially if there is no support for my graphic card
18:17<lmarcetic>lindi-, what is?
18:17<lindi->lmarcetic: chroots in general
18:18<arctix>lmarcetic, but wich version of flash are you running?
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18:18<lmarcetic>i'm not familiar with chroot. it's but a foggy memory in my mind. links to use/usage?
18:18<lindi->lmarcetic: is my recipe
18:19<lmarcetic>arctix, i run whatever comes with squeeze, can tell you if you want. but i watch youtube with epiphany's youtube extension.
18:19<lindi->lmarcetic: imho it's the best of both worlds. I have 100% stable system without having to worry about backports or mixing binary packages
18:19<lindi->lmarcetic: and I can have multiple unstable chroots so that if they break on upgrade I can keep a working one around easily :)
18:20<lindi->lmarcetic: and I can report bugs to the unstable packages since they are real official packages
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18:21<lmarcetic>are you telling me you can have all flavors of Debian GNU/Linux all at once?
18:21<lindi->lmarcetic: yeah
18:21<lindi->lmarcetic: except for kernel of course
18:21<lindi->lmarcetic: but you can run Xorg from unstable chroot
18:22<lmarcetic>cool stuff. will look into, thanks *saves page to chroot.txt*
18:22<arctix>i m thinking about downgrading to lenny, but is it possible to do it without loosing files from /home directory?
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18:22<jordanm>!tell arctix about downgrade
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18:23<lindi->I'm thinking new users should have a debian live usb stick for playing around with debian unstable
18:23<lmarcetic>arctix, only if they are on another partition or you copy all beforehand. but don't skip the hidden files.
18:24<arctix>lmarcetic, my home directory is on other partition, so i dont need to do anything?
18:25<lindi->arctix: you should have backups anyway
18:26<lmarcetic>arctix, nope, just be careful not to choose format when you're installing debian. that is: you choose "manual partitioning" instead of "guided/whole" or whatever, and make sure it's used as your /home directory, and not formatted. that's what i do all the time.
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18:27<lmarcetic>but lenny is older than... something really old.
18:28<arctix>only one good reason for me is support for my old graphic card on lenny
18:28<lmarcetic>heck, squeeze is frozen now, you'll be upgrading in no time anyway.
18:29<arctix>but if it's possible i would stay on squeeze, but i cant get this flash working
18:29<moldovean>, versions chromium-browser
18:29<judd>chromium-browser -- sid: 5.0.375.127~r55887-1; squeeze: 5.0.375.127~r55887-1; experimental: 6.0.472.36~r55963-1
18:29<arctix>it's stupid, but YT videos work when played through other sites (with only video window), but they cant when they're played via youtube page
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18:31<lmarcetic>arctix, i know, i have the same gnash version. perhaps some day i'll be less lazy and will try to install experimental gnash, and tell you what to do (if something can be done). but not today.
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18:32<lmarcetic>i mean, at least the packager should've been able to run it in his browser to check if it's working, right?
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18:33<arctix>lmarcetic, so you have same problem or what? im confused now ;]
18:33<jhutchins_lt>arctix: I'd recommend installing it as an additional bootable option to see if it works on your hardware. If that's good, do the upgrade, then make sure you make snapshot backup every time you run aptitude BEFORE you run it.
18:34<lmarcetic>arctix, yes (if by same problem you mean it plays only embedded youtube videos), but for the third time, i'm not using it (gnash) to play on-site youtube videos.
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18:36<lmarcetic>jhutchins_lt, doesn't chrooting approach sound more reasonable to you than copying the entire partition?
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18:37<arctix>jhutchins_lt, you mean to install lenny as spare kernel?
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18:49<arctix>ill try to fight with this tomorrow, anyway thx for help lmarcetic & lindi- ;)
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20:09<astronut>cthuluh: thanks for the suggestion for ath9k wifi
20:10<astronut>cthuluh: got a dlink card, and it just worked(tm). the most difficult part of the experience was trying to line up the screw under the lip of the case
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20:10<astronut>cthuluh: and that udev didn't auto-load the module but that's easy enough
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20:28<tr>whats up with google voice?, isit an add on to iceweasel, or a whole deb package?
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20:30<astronut>the it's a package with a bunch of so's in /opt and symlinks to them
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20:32<tr>anyone knows about google voice?, is it an addon to the browser, or a separate deb package?
20:33<astronut>i just answered you
20:33<tr>sorry, let me see
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20:34<astronut>17:30 < astronut> the it's a package with a bunch of so's in /opt and symlinks to them
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20:36<tr>astronut, 'so' is exactly what?, i am a little lost here
20:36<astronut>a .so file is a shared library
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20:36<astronut>a binary object that can be loaded at runtime by a program
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20:36<astronut>any language
20:37<astronut>they're used for plugins
20:37<astronut>in this case
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20:37<astronut>it's installed like the java plugin or flash plugin
20:37<astronut>it sits on it's own spot in the hard drive, then there's a symlink to it in the iceweasel plugin directory
20:37<tr>hmm, any security risks?
20:38<astronut>well, it's closed source
20:38<astronut>how much do you trust google?
20:38<tr>that have been detected of course, i realize is kind of stupid to ask about it now
20:38<tr>yeah, you are right
20:39<tr>ok, thanks, thats good enough for me
20:39<tr>for now
20:39<panpansh>anyone can help me to redirect https://* to on apache ?
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20:39<astronut>it does add itself to apt
20:39<astronut>for auto upgrades
20:40<astronut>panpansh: by * you mean any resolvable subdomain?
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20:45<astronut>assuming so, you want something like in your default virtual host, except change HTTP_HOST to the specific one
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20:45<astronut>(that one will make http://<anything>/some_path into https://<anything>/some_path
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21:24<eduard>Guten Tag
21:24<eduard>ich habe folgendes Problem
21:24<eduard>bei xampp kommt immer diese Meldung:
21:24<eduard>Neues XAMPP Sicherheitskonzept:
21:24<eduard>Der Zugriff auf das angeforderte Objekt ist nur aus dem lokalen Netzwerk möglich.
21:24<eduard>Diese Einstellung kann in der Datei "httpd-xampp.conf" angepasst werden.
21:25<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
21:25<eduard>diese Datei habe ich bearbeitet
21:25<astronut>no problem
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21:26<eduard>do you speak german?
21:26<astronut>not a bit
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21:27<astronut>but there's a huge german debian community so they should be able to take care of you
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21:38<eduard>no german people online -.-
21:40<franki^>It is quite late there...
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21:59<eduard>what is the command for restart by debian?
21:59<franki^>"shutdown -r now" maybe?
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22:28<cthuluh>astronut: nice
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22:46<Silicium01>Does anyone know how I can disable alt shortcut key with mouse clicks?
22:46<Silicium01>when I press alt and left click drag, window drags
22:46<Silicium01>when I press alt and right click, menu comes out
22:46<Silicium01>This is messing up my Blender shortcuts...
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22:47<Silicium01>Found it, System>prefts>windows
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23:10<johnfg>hi guys
23:11<johnfg>OK, have got squeeze installed, and grub 1. whatever. It didn't recognize either win xp pro or debian lenny, so.....Help please?
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23:17<flaccid>i'm looking at but its not linking me up to squeeze netinst. where is this?
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23:18<smv>flaccid, have a lool at
23:19<flaccid>ah yep, thats just what i landed at thanks!
23:19<flaccid>hmm 404 on
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23:23<avenegra>hola alguien abla español
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23:28<johnfg>Anyone willing to help convert my legacy grub entries to grub2?
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23:32<franki^>!es | avenegra
23:32<dpkg>| avenegra: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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23:41<flaccid>where in the docs do i read about installing xorg and kde?
23:47<blarson>flaccid: normally, you just select the appropriate tasks on install.
23:47<flaccid>i'm using netinst
23:48<flaccid>and this is post install
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23:48<blarson>flaccid: you can run tasksel (as root) and install them later
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23:48<flaccid>blarson: thanks. where is in this in docs?
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23:50<blarson>!tell flaccid about tasksel
23:50<flaccid>i guess debian just doesn't have docs like freebsd
23:51*blarson is not a documentation index
23:51<flaccid>err, i don't want gnome!
23:51<Nemoder>!install guide
23:51<dpkg>The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.5) can be found at . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>.
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23:52<flaccid>can't see there is a relevant section
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23:53<Nemoder>try chapter 6.3.5
23:53<YaiZerg> ... Hola a todo el canal #debian ...
23:53<YaiZerg> :);):)¿Como van las cosas?:);):)
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23:54<blarson>!tell YaiZerg about es
23:54<flaccid>Nemoder: this is post install.
23:55<YaiZerg>como instalo un modem ZyXEL OMNI 56K USB Plus en debian lenny ??
23:55<flaccid>and i only want to install xorg + kde
23:57<YaiZerg>and install a modem ZyXEL OMNI 56K USB Plus on debian lenny?
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23:57<Nemoder>I'll admit the documentation could be better but the info is there. Basically if what you want isn't available running tasksel then just run aptitude and search for the packages you want.
23:58<flaccid>Nemoder: yes this is the point i'm making
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