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---Logopened Mon Aug 30 00:00:10 2010
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00:04<Gateway`>phorce1, right it returns my public ip. thanks :)
00:04<Gateway`>any idea about the command dig ?
00:05<Gateway`>thanks for help guys
00:05<Gateway`>ciao
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01:15<zophy>can satellite phones dial any number or do they only connect to other satellite phones ?
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01:21<jpinx-eeepc>zophy: depends on your plan
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01:44<ju4n64>zzzzzz
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01:51<prem>is there a way to specify priority to applications in their .desktop files .,
01:52<prem>so that the particular application will be used as default for specific mime types
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02:33<tibs01>ello
02:33-!-tibs01 is now known as TIBS01
02:34<TIBS01>whats the pkgmanager callled
02:34<TIBS01>n to install eggdrop what else do i need ive installerd tcl but its still saying its not installed
02:36<jpinx>TIBS01: aptitude install <package>
02:37<TIBS01>yeah
02:37<TIBS01>but it aint for me
02:37<TIBS01>its someone compiling an eggdrop and its saying that theres no tcl on the system
02:37<TIBS01>when i installed tcl
02:37<jpinx>TIBS01: what release are you running
02:38<TIBS01>latet
02:38<TIBS01>latest
02:38<jpinx>TIBS01: what does cat /etc/debian_version say?
02:38<TIBS01>ang on just compiling some packages
02:39<TIBS01>shell1:~# cat /etc/debian_version
02:39<TIBS01>5.0.5
02:39<jpinx>,versions tcl
02:39<judd>tcl -- lenny: 8.4.16-2; sid: 8.4.16-2; squeeze: 8.4.16-2; experimental: 8.5.0-1
02:39<TIBS01>yer
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02:39<jpinx>TIBS01: aptitude install tcl says what to you?
02:39<TIBS01>ive just done apatitude install tcl
02:40<TIBS01>and it says all installed
02:40<TIBS01>No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
02:40<TIBS01>0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
02:40<ansgar>TIBS01: If you want to comile something you might need devel packages as well, e.g. tcl-dev for TCL.
02:40<TIBS01>ok thats installed
02:41<jpinx>,versions eggdrop
02:41<judd>eggdrop -- etch: 1.6.18-1etch2; etch-security: 1.6.18-1etch2; lenny: 1.6.19-1.1+lenny1; lenny-security: 1.6.19-1.1+lenny1; sid: 1.6.19-1.2; squeeze: 1.6.19-1.2
02:41<jpinx>TIBS01: are you trying to install smething other than the eggdrop from the repo?
02:43<TIBS01>yer
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02:44<TIBS01>eggdrop1.6.20
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02:44<jpinx>TIBS01: where did you get the .deb for that? Is it good? you can try to install with dpkg -i
02:45<TIBS01>it was the tar file
02:46<TIBS01>it wasnt deb
02:46<TIBS01>it aint me who was using it it was a mate of mine
02:46<TIBS01>he was trying to compile it and it said tcl wasnt installed
02:46<TIBS01>btw how do i search for pkg manager
02:47<jpinx>aptitude search
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02:53<TIBS01>shell1:~# aptitude search pkgmanager
02:53<TIBS01>shell1:~#
02:53<TIBS01>now come up
02:53<TIBS01>not
02:53<TIBS01>nowt
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02:54<jpinx>no - aptitude search <the thing you're looking for>
02:55<jpinx>like aptitude search package
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02:57<smv>TIBS01, the package manager in debian is apt and has more frontends, one of them being aptitude. where did your mate got the eggdrop tar from? doesn't contain any installation docs?
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03:38<erdavid12>ola de onde eres
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04:29<Jarlaxe>hi everyone ! just a quick question, does it exist a pdf reader in CLI mode ?
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04:34<BlackFate>Jarlaxe, need to convert with pdftotext or pdftohtml
04:34<tuxcrafter>http://debian.pastebin.com/gX4EX1BM
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04:35<tuxcrafter>does somoebody know hot to fix this s.m.a.r.t. issue that it excist with 32
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04:37<Jarlaxe>BlackFate: thank you ! because i was searching and searching into apt-cache ^^
04:37<ComradeHaz`>tuxcrafter, what's the problem?
04:38<tuxcrafter>ComradeHaz`: it exit with 32 instead of 0
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04:38<tuxcrafter>indicating there is an problem
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04:39<ComradeHaz`>Hmm, interesting :D
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04:41<ComradeHaz`>Hmm, gives zero for me as you obviously realise you would expect.
04:41<ComradeHaz`>So indeed, it's doing something odd.
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04:45<ComradeHaz`>tuxcrafter, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/man/smartctl.8.html#lbAD go down to "RETURN VALUES"
04:45<ComradeHaz`>It's not as simple as saying 3 and 2, you need to use their little bash thingy to figure out what it's returning
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04:47<ComradeHaz`>So, guys I need a little help configuring 'dhcp3' for a single net-bootable machine.
04:48<ComradeHaz`>I cannot see how I can make one machine net-bootable while leaving all other dhcp requests as normal dhcp leases.
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04:49<tuxcrafter>Bit 6: The device error log contains records of errors.
04:49<ComradeHaz`>True.
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04:50<ComradeHaz`>Doubt you care, thogh
04:50<ComradeHaz`>(Line 72 of your pastebin, I expect)
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04:52<tuxcrafter>its makes my munin harddisk monitoring tricker happy
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04:52<tuxcrafter>if smart does not return zero
04:52<ComradeHaz`>then don't use it :D
04:53<ComradeHaz`>What do you need it for?
04:53<ComradeHaz`>smartctl will email you if it finds a problem
04:53<ComradeHaz`>set up cron jobs to scan as often as you want and make sure your mail is configured correctly and Bob's your uncle
04:54<tuxcrafter>trend monitoring and yes smartctrl also mails me
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05:00<linux__>aaa
05:01<linux__>number
05:01<Guest45>POM_Lee
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05:01<linux__>how to use
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05:04<linux__>where am i
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05:06<linux11>nihao
05:06<linux__>305
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05:14<zqb>hhh
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05:14<linux__>hello
05:14<linux11>haihao
05:15<zqb>who are you
05:15<zqb>gun ..
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05:15<linux_>who are you ?
05:16<zqb>??????????
05:16<linux_>heh
05:16<linux_>hehe
05:17<themill>zqb, linux_, linux11: yes, your keyboard appears to be working just fine.
05:17<linux11>ni shi
05:17<zqb>who
05:17<zqb>...
05:17<themill>This is a support channel for debian -- you want #ubuntu-cn on irc.freenode.net
05:17<zqb>wangqiang
05:17<linux11>认真听课
05:18<linux11>呵呵
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05:20<jww>hi #debian.
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06:01<sometux>who to join flv files?
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06:02<sometux>How*
06:02<sometux>How to join flv files?
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06:02<sometux>Is there any tool to join flv files download from youtube.com?
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06:03<lindi->sometux: convert to ogg and use the oggJoin command
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06:06<sometux>lindi-, I think i gonna use mencoder, thanx!
06:06<lindi->sometux: please let us know the command line
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06:13<TIBS01>moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - (6.1.7600) up: 12mins 53secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz (x64) at 2266MHz (27% Load) gfx: ATI Technologies Inc. Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD (Core i3) 1.21GB res: 1366x768 32bit 60Hz ram: 1294/2934.8MB (44.09%) [||||------] hdd: C:\ 164.72GB/210.01GB D:\ 3.6GB/22.58GB E:\ 95.72MB/99.18MB net: Realtek PCIe
06:13<TIBS01>GBE Family Controller - 0MB/s 0B In 0B Out
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06:13<jww>what's that SHIT ?
06:13<TIBS01>my lappu
06:14<jww>err wrong window.
06:14<TIBS01>my lappy
06:14<TIBS01>lol
06:14<jww>oh lol was not for you :)
06:14<TIBS01>thats ok i was just seeing what the script would report back
06:14<TIBS01>http://www.gibbs-hosting.co.uk:81/phpsysinfo
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06:15<themill>TIBS01: perhaps you wanted #test not #debian?
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06:15<sometux>lindi-, mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -o "joined.avi" "1.avi" "2.avi"
06:16<TIBS01>oh soz
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06:20<sometux>lindi-, still problem, no index, so no seeking
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07:16<sometux>Anyone knows about if Tor hidden service for freenode not working, cause I can't access it?
07:16<lindi->well hidden :)
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07:18<sometux>lindi-, I tried to troubleshoot but no luck, someone there claims its broken http://www.beuc.net/tor/
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07:28<alekibango>do anyone know why there is no desktop optimized kernel in debian? All kernels are more like suitable for servers...
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07:29<alekibango>and yes, people are lazy (or unable) to recompile it...
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07:30<bremner>alekibango: is the patch you refer to in the mainline kernel? if not, that is basically why.
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08:54<song>这是干吗用的呀
08:55<song>怎么没人说话呀
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08:55<imperia>hello. i am planning to install debian on raid5 array. i was wondering where should i place swap space.. on raid array itself or outside? can somebody give me advice?
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08:57<mjt>swap on raid5 works for many years
08:57<mjt>in the kernel-2.2 era there were issues with that
08:57<imperia>i planning to use squeeze.. so raid5 + lvm + swap on raid?
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08:58<mjt>but if you plan to use lvm, make sure you've 3, 5, 9, 17, .. disks in raid5
08:58<mjt>i.e, 2^n+1
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08:59<imperia>i have 3 hdds.. actually i am not sure if i need lvm
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09:00<mjt>that has nothing to do with swap, but with alignment of lvm volumes. lvm can align volumes to block boundary, which is always 2^n. So you have to have 2^n _data_ disks in raid, or else 2/3 of lvm volumes will be unaligned.
09:00<mjt>(unaligned = slow writes)
09:02<mjt>hmm. if lvm block size = raid5 chunk size, it should work.
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09:08<imperia>i tried this setup in vmware... default chunk is 512kb for raid5 it seems
09:08<mjt>raid5 defaults to 64kb
09:08<mjt>but that's changeable
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09:12<imperia>strange.. i used debian installer.. and "Chunk Size : 512K
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09:21<sprok>hi gnome is automouning my HD in read-only, and when i mount manually copying is really slow, but can't find any explaination for this on the net
09:24<moldovean>i presume only, see /msg dpkg fsck ; forcefsck
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09:25<sprok>moldovean, good idea i thought there must have been a flag somewhere
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09:54<Gorgon>Got a host running with 2 external USB disks (md raid1), plug in phone on USB port to charge it, and unplug phone, afterwards the disk that was sdb is now sde and sdc is now sdf. md is now understandably quite upset... is scsidev the right solution or can I make md use /dev/disk/by-id/NAME?
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09:54<Justin_A>Gorgon: my /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf has stuff like
09:54<Justin_A>ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=0afeb9e1:4937e390:c1d81262:4b1c2c4c
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09:56<Justin_A>Gorgon: you can do mdadm --misc --examine /dev/sde1 to get the uuid
09:56<Gorgon>Same as mind (except I have metadata=01.02), it does not mention the device names in /dev for the disks used in md0?
09:57<Gorgon>But what do I do with the disk UUID? Re-create md0 giving the UUID instead of /dev/sdX & /dev/sdY (which as probably a bad I dea, I just follow the howto..)
09:57<Justin_A>no, you already have a UUID, use --examine to see wha tit is
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09:58<Gorgon>yes, I know the UUID of each disk and the md0, but it is of little use as far as I can see...
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10:00<Justin_A>you put the UUID of the md device in mdadm.conf and the kernel will scan for disks in that group and assemble the array
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10:03<Gorgon>Well, that kind of works, until /dev/sdX become /dev/sdY, and md fall over :-( I'd rather use /dev/disk/by-id/X and /dev/disk/by-id/Y as the don't change on a running system, or even between reboots.
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10:03<Justin_A>Gorgon: no. no. no. no.
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10:04<Justin_A>you don't use ANYTHING
10:04<Justin_A>ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=0afeb9e1:4937e390:c1d81262:4b1c2c4c
10:04<Justin_A>that is literally all you need
10:04<Gorgon>That is true, but I md do fail spectacularly :-/
10:05<Gorgon>s/I//
10:06<Justin_A>what happens when you run mdadm --assemble --scan ?
10:07<Gorgon>claim md is fine, but I can't use it, created a vg, but it is dead once md flippes after a /dev/sdX name change.
10:07<Justin_A>can't use it?
10:08<Gorgon>can't read any data off /dev/md0 (with dd), anything I do get IO errro.
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10:09<Justin_A>what does dmesg say?
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10:11<Gorgon> Buffer I/O error on device md0, logical block 156282912 \n end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 8 \n md: super_written gets error=-5, uptodate=0 [...etc...]
10:11<Gorgon>at this point /dev/sdb have become /dev/sde
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10:13<Justin_A>did you have /dev/sdb in your mdadm.conf?
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10:15<Gorgon>Nope, it's just like yours, except I have metadata=01.02.
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10:16<Justin_A>oh, strange
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10:16<Justin_A>wait.. did that device change from /dev/sdb to /dev/sdf while the system was running?
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10:16<Gorgon>sure it did
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10:16<Justin_A>oh! that is most strange
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10:17<Gorgon>that's the first thing I mentioned... hence by idea that it would be good to avoid using /dev/sdX and /dev/sdY anywhere..
10:17<Justin_A>the device names shouldn't change on a running system like that
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10:18<Justin_A>unless you unplugged the drives too
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10:18<Gorgon>[now it have decided to re-sync, it will take about 21 hours..]
10:19<Gorgon>I plugged in my phone, just to charge it, turned out that was a disastrous thing to do.
10:20<Justin_A>strange, but shouldn't be
10:20<Justin_A>the existing drives should not have been affected at all
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11:11<gery>mlm smua
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11:17<gery>can help me?
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11:17<Blackhold>hi
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11:18<Gorgon>it was after unplugging my phone things went wrong, I may not have attempted any IO while the phone was plugged in, can't say for sure now exactly when the disks changed name. Anyway, I'm off for the night. Thanks for the suggestions and tips!
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11:18<Blackhold>http://piratepad.net/marsupi <- could someone give me some help on it please? it appears on botting and the system don't boot. I reinstalled debian again, it boots various times and when pass few days on reboot it appears it :(
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11:20<blockowitsch>hello. i'm working on a open source tool that i'd like publish (especially for debian) in the next days. it's a proxifier like tool that works on the tcp/ip stack (tun device) instead of the api layer (as tsocks or proxychains do). to get some attention to the project, i would like to announce it somewhere when the first version is available. where is a good place to announce something like that?
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11:21<kooll>blockowitsch: first, probably a website like freshmeat. Then, perhaps some more general network-oriented or unix-tool oriented ones
11:22<locklace>Blackhold: "piratepad"? wtf is that. use a proper pastebin
11:22<blockowitsch>kooll, freshmeat is on my list now :)
11:23<Blackhold>locklace: I usually use etherpad
11:23<Blackhold>now my etherpad is on this machine but it isn't booting :(
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11:25<Blackhold>locklace: etherpad is cool
11:25<Blackhold>http://pastebin.com/PNtHWpsy
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11:25<lindi->etherpad is cool when it is in debian :)
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11:26<Blackhold>lindi-: my etherpad is on a debian
11:26<Blackhold>I'm experimenting it and modifing it
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11:27<lindi->Blackhold: yes but "in debian" is a different thing
11:27<Blackhold>why?
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11:27<Blackhold>there's a different app similar to etherpad?
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11:27<jordanm>typically only software that is packaged by debian, is supported by debian
11:27<Blackhold>I usually use gobby, but was difficult for single users
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11:27<Blackhold>jordanm: uh ok
11:28<Blackhold>now I remember that I have to edit sources to install etherpad from apt
11:28<lindi->Blackhold: yeah, unofficial stuff
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11:28<Blackhold>but I installed the ehterpad through sources
11:28<Blackhold>more up to date :P
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11:29<Blackhold>I'm going to delete udev rules
11:29<jordanm>Blackhold: gobby would be the debian equiv
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11:29<Blackhold>jordanm: yep, so then would be interesting etherpad
11:29<Blackhold>'cause it goes through web
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11:29<Blackhold>the pitty is that uses java machine
11:29<Blackhold>but it works perfectly with openjdk
11:29<Blackhold>:=
11:29<Blackhold>:)
11:29<Blackhold>the squeeze version one
11:30<jordanm>!debbugs #576998
11:31<lindi->Blackhold: yeah, it seems to come with a lot of third-party binaries
11:31<jordanm>!dbugs #576998
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11:31<dpkg>#576998:W[wnpp] ITP: etherpad -- web based collaborative real-time editor (); Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:12:04 UTC []
11:31<lindi->Blackhold: I don't think you built all those from source
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11:31<lindi->(but I can be wrong of course!)
11:32<Blackhold>lindi-: I have it documented
11:32<Blackhold>in spanish
11:32<Blackhold>I usually translate manuals
11:32<Blackhold>well guys
11:32<Blackhold>now I came
11:32<Blackhold>I must fix this system
11:33<Blackhold>all help will be welcome
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11:33<lindi->Blackhold: modifying /usr manually is a recipe for disaster
11:34<Blackhold>lindi-: I'm going to remove udev rule
11:34<Blackhold>is really strange what happens here
11:35<Blackhold>I'm booting the system with the livedvd
11:35<Blackhold>great work :)
11:36<Blackhold>there's some way to tell to udev to show more info
11:36<Blackhold>on boot?
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11:37<Blackhold>said nothing, sorry
11:38<sun>hi does anyone know how to make a whitelist so that the computer can only connect to a limited number of website names? for example we could whitelist mail.yahoo.com and some other things like that, but nothing else.. and we can't really use ip-ranges for something like mail.yahoo.com
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11:39<lindi->sun: 1) apt-get install squid
11:39<moldovean> aptitude
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11:43<lindi->sun: 2) modify /etc/squid/squid.conf to have "acl whitelist dstdomain .yahoo.com" and "http_access deny !whitelist"
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11:44<lindi->sun: 3) instruct everyone to use your proxy
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11:45<rpetre>and 4) block all http access to internet with source != proxy server ;)
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11:47<lindi->moldovean: hmm, that wouldn't show list of suggested packages. you might want to rewrite step 1 using aptitude gui?
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11:47<sun>thanks
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11:54<Blackhold>:( there's any way to get system boot
11:54<Blackhold>I tried also to define the partition to /dev not by UUID
11:55<Blackhold>it stops on running init scripts
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11:56<moldovean> see /msg dpkg bootlog
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12:01<Blackhold>moldovean: ok
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12:03<Blackhold>moldovean: there's nothing on boot log file
12:03<Blackhold>and no bootlog found
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12:07<moldovean>cat /etc/default/bootlogd , says ?
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12:08<Blackhold>BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No
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12:09<Blackhold>I imagine I have to put to yes?
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12:10<moldovean>you even didn't read bot message ..
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12:11<Blackhold>moldovean: so nope
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12:12<Blackhold>usually search on var/log
12:12<Blackhold>for modified files but usually was notthing
12:12<Blackhold>gonna try now
12:12<Blackhold>thnks
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12:22<Blackhold>moldovean: I have reboot with this option and I have no new file on /var/log
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12:35<cahoot>Blackhold: not even an updated /var/log/dmesg?
12:35<Blackhold>nope
12:35<Blackhold>it seems that stops on loading some service
12:36<Blackhold>S01mountkernfs.sh <- maybe that
12:36<cahoot>AFAIK bootlogd is logging later events than the initial dmesg so no wonder not /var/log/boolog is created
12:36<Blackhold>but do not know
12:36<Blackhold>cahoot: I have udev on debug mode
12:36<cahoot>nm the typos
12:36<Blackhold>but it seems that don't reaches udev
12:36<Blackhold>nm the typos?
12:37<Blackhold>what do you mean?
12:37<cahoot>don't mind my typing errors
12:37<Blackhold>ok :P
12:37<Blackhold>I'm not american
12:37<Blackhold>well gonna see if deleting the newest files in system it works
12:37<Blackhold>just deleted lm-sensors init script
12:38<Blackhold>to test something
12:38<Blackhold>if not at :45 will format again
12:38<Blackhold>and I will get working this machine in two hours aprox.
12:38<Blackhold>but will be the second time
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12:39<Blackhold>the same problem :
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12:47<Blackhold>I'm gonna to format...
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13:30<gery>ada yang tau knapa monitor laptopq tidak terdetec?
13:31<mib_tbrp23>What use is having a freenode web chat if it is banned on #debian @ irc.freenode.net Usually that is the connecting point when you fubar your debian. End of rant.
13:32<themill>mib_tbrp23: if you can convince people to stop abusing it, it will be unbanned. (mibbit is frequently banned here too for the same reason)
13:32<mib_tbrp23>themill: point taken and understood.
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13:33<mib_tbrp23>What image should i download to install squeeze using a usb memory stick ?
13:34<mib_tbrp23>A simple url and a way to install it into the memory stick using windows would be great :)
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13:35<petemc>!usb install
13:35<dpkg>Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
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13:38<gery>ada yang dari indonesia????
13:38<mib_tbrp23>petemc: thx,
13:41<mib_tbrp23>from this url which one should i download ? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
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14:03<leshark>Hi, i need from help with... an error on my cyrus pop3s[7138]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed AND imaps[8966]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed someone can help me with this?
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14:04<jordanm>leshark: what version of debian?
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14:06<leshark>jordanm: Debian Lenny 5.0
14:07<jordanm>leshark: using cyrus-imapd-2.2 and cyrus-pop3d-2.2?
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14:08<leshark>yep!
14:08<leshark>jordanm: yep!
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14:09<jordanm>leshark: pastebin: apt-cache policy libssl0.9.8 cyrus-imapd-2.2 cyrus-pop3d-2.2 libc6
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14:14<bursihido> apt-cache policy libssl0.9.8 cyrus-imapd-2.2 cyrus-pop3d-2.2 libc6
14:14<bursihido>libssl0.9.8:
14:14<bursihido> Installed: 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.1
14:14<bursihido> Candidate: 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.1
14:14<bursihido> Version table:
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14:29<mib_tbrp23>Is it possible to put a netinst image on a usb stick using windows to be able to install debian ?
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14:31<locklace>!unetbootin
14:31<dpkg>UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions, packaged for Debian. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ See also <usb install>.
14:31<musca>http://www.goodbye-windows.com/debian/vista/
14:32<mib_tbrp23>locklace: thx
14:32<mib_tbrp23>musca: dido
14:33<mib_tbrp23>musca: btw this machine had a running lenny install but the upgrade to squeeze went extremly bad.
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14:39<musca>!tell mib_tbrp23 about lenny->testing
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14:42<dominick>mib_tbrp23, you might want to upgrade your kernel from bpo first!
14:42<dominick>!tell mib_tbrp23 about lenny->squeeze
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14:51<mrpink>hi, since squeeze, all mpeg4 xvid videos are kinda distorted(pixelated), in mplayer and totem
14:51<mrpink>can anybody help me or have some suggestions?
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14:52<mrpink>gstreamer-plugins are all installed and as far as i know mplayer comes with its own codecs
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14:57<locklace>mrpink: provide details of your graphics card and drivers and the results with different mplayer video outputs (see the -vo option)
14:57<mrpink>locklace, tried all mplayer outputs, same result
14:57<mrpink>i am on a g4 ppc with radeon 9600
14:58<mrpink>using radeon driver
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14:59<mrpink>ffmpeg and related stuff is all installed from debian-multimedia repo
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15:06<leshark>hey! someone can help me? i'm using centos but the peoples on centos irc can't help me, so i was search from help here.. my problem are on Cyrus errors "Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed" on the imap and pop3 and imaps TLS negotiation failed: localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], please! someone can help me?
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15:12<dreamer000>Hello, can anyone tell whether nscd is still an option for dns?
15:12<mrpink>ok, found a workaround by reinstalling ffmpeg and using x11 as -vo option
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15:12<mrpink>but that only works in mplayer
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15:14*triper Welcome wWw.Argetohu.Com & ïrc.Argetohu.com
15:14*triper Welcome wWw.Argetohu.Com & ïrc.Argetohu.com
15:14*triper Welcome wWw.Argetohu.Com & ïrc.Argetohu.com
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15:23<srobi>sziasztok
15:23<srobi>van itt magyar?
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15:28<bremner>!hu
15:28<dpkg>methinks hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t.
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15:31<srobi>!hu
15:31<dpkg>somebody said hu was Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t.
15:31<srobi>:D
15:32<srobi>köszi ott vagyok már :)
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16:19<amos>what's this?
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16:21<amphi>what's what?
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16:23<asu>Hello, I have a question about installing the kernel source for the kernel currently installed with Debian 5.0.5. Searches on google only gives me results on how to build my own kernel, but that's now what i want. Can someone help guide me in the right direction? (apt-get install kernel-source did not work either)
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16:25<old>asu: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.35, for example.
16:25<Nemoder>asu: if you don't want to build your own kernel then you might only need the linux-header* package
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16:28<asu>old, Nemoder, thanks for help, @old that command throws an error, @Nemoder it's installing something hope it's what i need
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16:29<asu>old, oops i typed wrong version, sorry
16:29<asu>Thanks again
16:30<old>asu: Choose the version you want. This is the latest I know. Also: a TAB key is your friend.
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16:37<bgat>anyone here know how I can tell xorg *not* to take events from specific /dev/input/event<x> devices?
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16:38<bgat>I have a couple of devices that I want xorg to simply ignore
16:39<bgat>(and unfortunately, they are of the soldered-in variety so I can't simply unplug them!)
16:40<Gathond>bgat: nothing a good knife or scalpel cant solve:)
16:40<Gathond>unfortunately after X seems to have changed to this, auto config only thing, I have no clue how to tell it to ignore stuff
16:41<bgat>Gathond: true, but the device is hermetically sealed (industrial PC) so even if I didn't care about the warranty, I would destroy the device getting at the traces I'd need to cut!
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16:41<bgat>of course, that *would* cause xorg to ignore those devices... along with all of the others, tho :)
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16:52<panpansh>hi
16:52<panpansh>I have 1 server only ... and I wan't to do a full backup of /
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16:53<panpansh>anyone have an idea for a simply tool ?
16:54<Nemoder>I use rsnapshot
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17:19<imperium>hellow
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17:20<imperium>does squeeze have a version number?
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17:21<petemc>6.0
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17:22<imperium>so whats next testing codename?
17:24<petemc>not yet decided afaik
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17:24<imperium>i see. thx pete
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17:25<petemc>np
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17:27<imperium>ive been wondering why sarge ver# is not 4.0 and lennys not 4.1
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17:29<muep>imperium: it seems quite arbitrary to me
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17:30<imperium>muep sorry my english is not very good, can u explain a little bit?
17:31<muep>imperium: the number bumps do not seem to based on any clear criteria
17:31<brielle>imperium: there are major differences between 4.0 and 5.0
17:31<brielle>minor changes through the life of the release have smaller version numbers
17:31<brielle>ie: 5.0.5
17:32<muep>the differences between 3.0 and 3.1 were quite tremendous, too
17:32<brielle>minor changes mean you can usually safely upgrade without breaking things.
17:32<brielle>its possible that the policies governing versions changed after 3.1?
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17:32<imperium>i see
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18:22<shaggy_>Can someone help me fix my sound?
18:22<shaggy_>I have alsa installed
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18:23<blarson>!tell shaggy_ about alsa-checklist
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18:31<PeterNL>What's wrong with the following line of my crontab?
18:31<PeterNL>*/10 * * * * /home/peter/kleur
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18:32<PeterNL>The script exists, and it's meant to be run every 10 minutes
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18:32<ezequiel>hola alguien habla español??
18:33<sney>!es
18:33<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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18:47<neo>hola
18:47<neo>alguen sabe como usar el cable ads
18:47<neo>?
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18:53<na5uta-work>hi. i search for the bluetooth-alsa.deb
18:53<na5uta-work>no longer in the repo?
18:54<lindi->na5uta-work: that is not a valid filename for a debian package
18:55<lindi->na5uta-work: but "bluetooth-alsa" does not seem to be in debian
18:55<shaggy_>Can sombody help me with sound?
18:55<gsimmons>na5uta-work: Yes, see Debian bug #499052 and use bluez-audio instead.
18:55<na5uta-work>http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothAlsa
18:56<na5uta-work>ok, then delete the wiki, i trust debian-wiki normaly
18:56<shaggy_>My sound doesn't work as root or regular user, I am part of the Audio group and the alsamixer levels are up
18:57<shaggy_>I have a Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
18:57<shaggy_>sound modules are loaded
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18:59<shaggy_>blarson: i tried your suggestions. anything else?
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19:12<panpansh>hi !
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19:13<panpansh>how to backup/restore full disk via network on lenny ?
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19:23<vyrus002>anybody know what .deb has Proc/Queue.pm on squeeze?
19:23<vyrus002>ive got perl-modules and perl-base installed and its still not there
19:23<abrotman>!tell vyrus002 about apt-file
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19:26<vyrus002>abortman thnx
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19:56<Guest127>test.. #memefilter on freenode?
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20:06<emopart>never set one up
20:06<emopart>any suggestions for a syslogd?
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20:44<infinite>Hi Folks:
20:45<infinite>I installed NVIDIA drivers for my legacy TNT2 RIVA Video Card. I get error loading the driver.
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20:47<abrotman>you don't need the binary nvidia drivers for that card
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20:48<infinite>I am using Driver "nv" it works, but with Drivers "nvidia" I get error
20:49<infinite>So What do I put in the xorg.conf file
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20:54<abrotman>i doubt the nvidia driver supports that card .. it's from like 1999 or something
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20:54<law>hi. i am trying to copy a debian installation. how do i recalc the uuids for grub and fstab?
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20:56<infinite>The problem arose when I was changing GDM3 to KDM, it would just crash. Is there a way to get it working
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20:58<abrotman>use the nv driver
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20:59<infinite>OK Thanks
20:59<infinite>What is a nv driver?
21:00<jordanm>!nv
21:00<dpkg>nv is an Xorg driver for NVIDIA cards, packaged for Debian in xserver-xorg-video-nv. It does not support 3D acceleration with <DRI> or <GLX>. For 3D acceleration, use of the <non-free> "nvidia" driver is required, ask me about <nvidia>. http://wiki.x.org/wiki/nv http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/NVIDIA . See also <nouveau>.
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21:01<infinite>Ok Thanks
21:01<MrFrood>infinite: I managed to install the 96.x.. drivers for a geforce4 using the sgfxi script
21:01<infinite>Where do I get sgfxi script
21:02<MrFrood>google
21:02<jordanm>debian has packages for those legacy drivers
21:02<jordanm>,versions nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-source
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21:03<judd>nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-source -- lenny/non-free: 96.43.07-2; sid/non-free: 96.43.16-1
21:03<MrFrood>infinite: http://smxi.org/
21:04<franki^>infinite: That's not officially Debian though. (Although, I have found it useful before too)
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21:06<MrFrood>infinite needs the 71.86.xx drivers and As far as I know they are not in any offical debain repository
21:07<abrotman>that card is just too old
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21:08<MrFrood>you can run oolite on it so it would be good enough for me :D
21:09<infinite>OK Thanks I will try sgfxi, and i do not care if does not work
21:09<MrFrood>infinite: if you use sgfxi you will need to use the -o option to force the drive you want.
21:09<abrotman>infinite: your card is just way way way too old
21:10<MrFrood>no its not -nvidia still support it with the 71.xx.xx drivers
21:11*dvs thought the older the hardware, the more likely the driver will work. I guess there are limits.
21:11<Knorrie>heh
21:11<Knorrie>yes
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21:12<law>hi. i am trying to copy a debian installation. how do i recalc the uuids for grub and fstab?
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21:13<Knorrie>law: how are you copying?
21:14<law>rsync
21:14<Knorrie>to what
21:14<law>rsync, from one machine to another
21:15<law>so i create the file sytems manually, and they get new uuids
21:15<law>so they do not match in fstab and grub on the new machine
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21:15<Knorrie>and the other machine is currently running? is it running a rescuecd or something other?
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21:15<tuxG>hi
21:16<law>yes, I use a live system for copying on both machines. so the file systems are not used by the system while copying and do a grub-install afterwards
21:16<Knorrie>ah
21:16<tuxG>can anyone give me the speed of copy to usb2.0 storage drive ?
21:17<dvs>tuxG: 48MB/s max, but it rarely reaches that speed.
21:18<abrotman>480Mb ?
21:19<dvs>yeah, isn't that correct?
21:19<tuxG>i have 2MB/s, so i think there is an issue somewhere
21:19<abrotman>well, 10b is not 1B :)
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21:20<abrotman>it is 480Mbps says wikipedia
21:20<dvs>abrotman: it is in USB speak. ;-). The protocol translates every byte into 10-bit encoding
21:20<abrotman>tuxG: that sounds like USB1
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21:20<dvs>it's called 8b/10b encoding
21:20<abrotman>dvs: but you're right .. IIRC it's normally like 100mbps max
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21:20<Knorrie>milli-bit?
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21:21<tuxG>abrotman: the manual of my pc says that i have usb2.0
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21:21<abrotman>is the device usb2 ?
21:21<dvs>abrotman: true.
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21:22<tuxG>yes
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21:22<Knorrie>law: it's an interesting issue i haven't encountered before, sorry i cannot help you right now
21:22<law>thx
21:22<law>i will try to just edit them manually. are only two machines this time.
21:23<Knorrie>law: in that situation i'd try to guess sdaX names and try to boot it and then fix the rest
21:23<Knorrie>be sure to install grub
21:23<Knorrie>using the bootcd
21:24<law>yes, it get it bootet... but with quite a lot error messages... wish i just could run a few commands in rescue...
21:24<Knorrie>probably while being chrooted into the system you just copied
21:24<law>yes, thats somehow the way i am taking. but it is not straight forward right now.
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21:25<Knorrie>no it's not, but if you manage to do things like this, you gain knowlegde you'll be happy to use in the future
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21:29<dvs>tuxG: the speed of flash drives vary greatly.
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21:31<tuxG>dvs: i perform this command, time (cp 100MB_file /media/usb0/; umount /media/usb0/)
21:32<tuxG>and the result is "real 0m29.517s"
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21:33<dvs>tuxG: try "sync" instead of umount
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21:36<tuxG>dvs: with sync i have "real 0m27.999s" for the same file (100MB)
21:38<dvs>tuxG: as I said before, if it's a flash drive, the speed vary greatly.
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21:38<abrotman>tuxG: FWIW, the drive could also be dying and causing IO errors
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21:41<tuxG>abrotman: how can i check this ?
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21:41<abrotman>dmesg might have some
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21:43<tuxG>i have this message with dmesg
21:43<tuxG>hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3
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21:51<shaggy_>can sombody help me fix my sound?
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21:51<dvs>what? who said that?
21:52<shaggy_>me
21:52<dvs>I swear I heard something
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21:56<shaggy_>Wasn't me was it?
21:57<dvs>;-
21:58<dvs>)
21:58<dvs>!alsa checklist
21:58<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>.
21:59<shaggy_>I tried that!
21:59<shaggy_>i am in audio, aplay doesn't work as root
21:59<shaggy_>alsamixer is on
21:59<shaggy_>speakers are on
21:59<shaggy_>moduales for sound are loaded
21:59<dvs>shaggy_: speaker-test?
21:59<shaggy_>speaker-test -c6
22:00<shaggy_>-c2*
22:00<shaggy_>its ICH9 card
22:01<dvs>so that should be a snd_intel8x0 module,right?
22:01<shaggy_>not snd_hda_intel?
22:02<dvs>oh. if it's loaded that it's right.
22:02<shaggy_>yesh sir
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22:02<moldovean>shaggy_, two sound cards ?
22:02<shaggy_>nope
22:03<moldovean>lenny ?
22:03<shaggy_>nosir
22:03<shaggy_>dont hate me for saying sid...
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22:04<moldovean>shaggy_, try lenny
22:04<shaggy_>id have to image and reinstall.
22:04<shaggy_>im sure this is a config issue, because i just had sid x86 working great
22:05<shaggy_>re did laptop with LVM & encryption and amd64 build now no sound
22:05<moldovean>shaggy_, your card needs firmware ?
22:05-!-simonrvn [simon@211.148-ppp.3menatwork.com] has joined #debian
22:05<shaggy_>how can i check?
22:05<shaggy_>its Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
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22:05<moldovean>lspci -nn | grep Au
22:05<moldovean>says ?
22:05<shaggy_>Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
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22:06<moldovean>nah , smth like [xxxx:yyyy]
22:06<shaggy_>00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]
22:06<shaggy_>is that vendor id and dev id?
22:06<moldovean>not yet ..
22:06<shaggy_>[8086:293e]
22:07<shaggy_>thats vendor id & dev id
22:07<moldovean>shaggy_, uname -r , says ?
22:07<shaggy_>8086 is intel
22:07<shaggy_>2.6.32-5-amd64
22:07<dvs>shaggy_: Maybe mute the IEC9... in the mixer.
22:07<moldovean>, pciid 8086:293e
22:07<judd>[8086:293e] is '82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:293e and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module.
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22:08<shaggy_>so that means no firmware?
22:08<moldovean>lsmod , get snd_hda_intel ?
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22:09<shaggy_>snd_hda_intel 19987 2
22:09<shaggy_>snd_hda_codec 54244 2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
22:09<shaggy_>snd_pcm 60471 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
22:09<shaggy_>snd 46446 15 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
22:09<shaggy_>snd_page_alloc 6249 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
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22:10<moldovean>shaggy_, next time use paste
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22:10<shaggy_>pastebin?
22:10<shaggy_>yes sir
22:11<moldovean>wht does speaker-test -c6 say ?
22:11<moldovean>s/wht/ what
22:12<shaggy_>0 Front Left
22:12<shaggy_>4 Center'
22:12<shaggy_>want more?
22:12<shaggy_>doesn't play sounds
22:12<shaggy_>oh and playback device is default
22:12<shaggy_>aplay -l shows my card
22:13<moldovean>all volume are up > 80%?
22:13<shaggy_>yupp!
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22:13<moldovean>use a headset ?
22:14*dvs still bets it's the IEC958
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22:15<shaggy_>unbelievable! sound w/ headset
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22:16<moldovean>unplug them ..
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22:16<shaggy_>nothing now
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22:17<shaggy_>hmm speakers were just working... i dont think it could be a hardware issue.
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22:19<moldovean>seems your mother_jack rest blocked on one position
22:19<shaggy_>hmm like the hardware switch for headphones / speakers?
22:20<moldovean>yeah
22:20<shaggy_>set by hardware or software?
22:20<moldovean>for me it's hardware
22:20<shaggy_>i can boot live & test
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22:21<shaggy_>i mean last night it work . i reinstalled OS w/ x64 & LVM and it went out. that would be amazing timing.
22:21<moldovean>shaggy_, what bts says about it ?
22:22<shaggy_>bts?
22:22<shaggy_>bios?
22:22<moldovean>shaggy_, /msg dpkg bts
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22:22<shaggy_>ah bug tracking system
22:22<shaggy_>what package would i look under?
22:23<moldovean>alsa ?
22:23<FiendKing04>I noticed some mentioning of a LVM... if it doesn't have an LVM, how does it handle the HDD's?
22:23<shaggy_>^ what?
22:24<shaggy_>standard partitioning is what you get with out LVM
22:25<FiendKing04>I see.
22:25<FiendKing04>What is that done by though?
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22:25<FiendKing04>If an LVM can handle, what handles it if you don't have one?
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22:26<sney>debian installer handles the partitioning, probably calls cfdisk to actually make it happen
22:26<sney>O
22:26<sney>I've never actually used lvm on my systems
22:27<shaggy_>all HDDs can handle LVM
22:27<shaggy_>its just a diffrent parition number
22:27<shaggy_>its all software
22:28<FiendKing04>(2010-08-30 22:25:59) sney: debian installer handles the partitioning, probably calls cfdisk to actually make it happen
22:28<FiendKing04>That's what I was wondering about.
22:28<shaggy_>oh
22:28<FiendKing04>Versus the LVM.
22:28<FiendKing04>Sorry, I know, no good way to ask that.
22:28<FiendKing04>For a n00b, anyways. :p
22:29<shaggy_>moldovean: sorry for wasting your time. Thank you for suggesting BTS, Report #570128 describes my problem im reading it now. Thank you!
22:29<moldovean>np
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22:31<shaggy_>moldovean: the orignal guy stop replying to thread. The last report was Feb 2010. Should i reply and take up testing?
22:32<moldovean>yes, if you needs
22:32<shaggy_>moldovean: Thank you! I dont yet know community protcool! Thank you. Cya
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22:34<moldovean>!dbugs #570128
22:34<dpkg>#570128:N[alsa-base] sound doesnt work at kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64, alsa-base 1.0.17.dfsg-4 and card: hda intel (ich9) (); Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:54:01 UTC []
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23:58<finalfight>With flash discontinued for the time being on AMD64, I was wondering if there were tricks to make 32-bit flash + nspluginwrapper more stable. It just crashes far too often.
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