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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-10-17

---Logopened Sun Oct 17 00:00:53 2010
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00:03<edbian>I can't seem to get a dhcp address on my school's wired network. I was able to. I restarted several times. Now I can't (it requests on like 8 different intervals than gives up). Any suggestions?
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02:23<EmleyMoor>Is there a recommended replacemest for gbuffy?
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02:23<EmleyMoor>replacement
02:25<jordanm>,info gbuffy
02:25<judd>Package gbuffy (mail, optional) in lenny/i386: A GTK+-based, XBuffy-like multiple mailbox "biff" program. Version: 0.2.6-13; Size: 70.1k; Installed: 172k
02:25*jordanm has no idea what a "biff" program does
02:26<cahoot>mail notification?
02:26<EmleyMoor>jordanm: Indicates how many unread mails there are and may also provide a quick way to open the box in a MUA
02:27<EmleyMoor>cd
02:27<jordanm>EmleyMoor: ooh, like xfce4-mailwatch-plugin
02:28<jordanm>thats the only thing like I know of, requires xfce4-panel
02:29<jpinx-ee1pc>gkrellm-mailwatch - GKrellM plugin to watch mailboxes in multiple panels
02:29<jpinx-ee1pc>xfce4-mailwatch-plugin - mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel
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02:29<jpinx-ee1pc>Oppps rthat didn't work out well :(
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02:45<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... gkrellm-mailwatch not good
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02:50<EmleyMoor>Ah, it might be OK
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03:01<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... cumbersome with this many folders
03:01<oosr>hi all
03:02<amphi>there's somthing to be said for good ol' mbox
03:02<EmleyMoor>Er - what is there to be said for it?
03:03<amphi>it's trivial to use inotifywait to make an incoming mail indicator
03:04<EmleyMoor>Yes - perhaps - but it's not compatible with horde and not good when you have your finger in as may pies as I do
03:05<amphi>uhuh
03:05<amphi>pies...
03:07<supplicant>!pie EmleyMoor
03:07*dpkg hits EmleyMoor in the face with a cream pie
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03:10<oosr>hi
03:10<alvarezp>hi
03:11<oosr>is still frozen to squeeze debian ?
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03:12<EmleyMoor>squeeze is frozen, if that's what you mean. lenny still stable
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03:12<oosr>that i meant
03:12<oosr>thanks
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04:48<YaZerg> ... Hola a todo el canal #debian ...
04:48<YaZerg> :);):)¿Como van las cosas?:);):)
04:48<alvarezp>YaZerg: hola, cross-poster ;) This is in English, btw
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04:50<YaZerg>Hi I have a mail server installed but only offer that ne is used for local network, as I can configure it to send me emails to another domain ¿¿¿???
04:51<alvarezp>YaZerg: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure?
04:51<alvarezp>I remember seeing it ask the user if it should be local, satellite, or I-don't-know what other choices.
04:55<YaZerg>what makes me Farta is how to configure it to send me emails to another server and the other is the one in charge of sending it to where you
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06:05<ComradeHaz`>Good morning. I'd like some help please primarilly stopping logcheck from including routine cron-apt log in its mails. I would go so far as to suggest the stuff it is including constitutes a bug in logcheck and would appreciate clarification of that and if appropriate assistance reporting said bug.
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06:09<ComradeHaz`>An example of my complaint is http://pastebin.ca/1964720
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06:18<ompaul>ComradeHaz`: http://www.debianadmin.com/manpages/defaultcron-aptfile.txt really does point to the configs you will find uncommented in your machine that diff being a useful indicator - is no bug, is expected behaviour if your machine goes and randomly breaks itself nice to know what was going on at the time
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06:45<ComradeHaz`>OK, ompaul, I think I follow :) Thanks.
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06:53<ompaul>ComradeHaz`: basically, it is not a bug. If you use that config file you can stop the behaviour you don't want.
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06:54<ComradeHaz`>Aye, I think I could see how it works, though I actually decided to fix it another way, thus: 'sudo aptitude remove cron-apt'!
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06:55<ompaul>ComradeHaz`: and that was not the effect you wanted, I guess.
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07:01<ComradeHaz`>ompaul, effect I wanted was no more cron-apt spam in logcheck mails. Think that should have desired effect!
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07:27<dominick>hi! I'm looking for a project management package in the debian repository! any suggestions?
07:27<alvarezp>dominick: planner
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07:29<dominick>alvarezp, thanks. I'm checking it out! any other project managing packages?
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08:00<saleem>hello
08:01<saleem>what package auto reconnects to network DHCP
08:02<saleem>everytime i disconencts i have to restart my system because it will not auto reconenct to internet
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08:03<f8l>saleem: Isn't it easier to run dhclient as root instead of rebooting?
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08:04<alvarezp>saleem: try network-manager
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08:10<saleem_>f8l, i was just disconnected and run dhclient as root did not help, so i had to reboot
08:11<saleem_>so i wonder what is the package im missing that will autoreconnect me?
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08:14<alvarezp>saleem_: you are disconnected from where, and why?
08:15<saleem_>from my dsl, because of the faulty fone lines and everytime i get disconnected my system will not auto reconnect unless i reboot
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08:16<iess>you can use network manager which can help you
08:17<iess>And you'd better check you line to find the problem
08:18<iess>sorry , your
08:18<saleem_>i installed dhcp-probe , dhcp3-client , dhcpcd , dhcping , dnsmasq-base , isc-dhcp-client , network-manager-pptp , network-manager , but still same issue persists
08:19<saleem_>i have to reboot and then only i can reconnect, not otherwise
08:19<iess>do you use a desktop environment?
08:20<alvarezp>saleem_: do you have a router in between, or is it just you and the modem?
08:20<saleem_>no matter how many times i swtich on and switch off dsl modem or logout, only reboot will reconenct me, and this is only happening on debian, on pclinuxos i reconnect within few minutes automatically
08:20<saleem_>iess, yes i use kde4
08:21<iess>if you use dsl,then dhcp won't help
08:21<saleem_>alvarezp, only a modem, no router
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08:23<hachi>hi folks... after upgrading to squeeze my machine only seems to be aware of a single cpu
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08:23<hachi>but my box is quad-core.... and dmesg shows it starting up all of them
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08:24<hachi>anyone know what could do this?
08:24<saleem_>i dont have etho connect and disconnect option in panel
08:25<tumik>Hi! My load averages are over 300, but cpu usage is near 0, computer is working fastly and memory usage is low. I cant kill rtorrent process, even with -9. What could cause such?
08:25<tumik>Cpu(s): 0.7%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
08:25<tumik>Cpu(s): 0.7%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
08:25<tumik>oh, sorry, failpaste :|
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08:25<hachi>tumik: most commonly, network file system problem
08:26<tumik>hachi: I dont have anything mounted via network, but I was just resizing my partition on-line.. it got stuck and its still resizing (for hours now)
08:26<hachi>ahh, then that's what it probably hung on
08:27<hachi>a process that won't die even with SIGKILL usually means it's waiting on a mutex in kernel
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08:27<tumik>But shouldnt it be able to continue normally if I'm doing online resize?
08:28<hachi>if the resize is stuck, it might no longer be an 'online' resize
08:28<tumik>oh.. any idea how to recover from this?
08:28<hachi>try iostat and see if the io subsystem is doing anything?
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08:29<tumik>hachi: I dont have sysstat installed and dpkg has also been frozen when I have tried to update..
08:29<tumik>but weirdly, dpkg has nothing to do with the partition I was resizing
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08:32<hachi>I personally have had elevator issues that manifest like this
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08:32<hachi>but I was sorta abusing the machine, so I wouldn't jump to that conclusion lightly
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08:33<hachi>you could try modifying the elevator in /sys/block somewhere for the devices that you're toying with... I dunno what to suggest to be honest
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08:33<hachi>does dmesg show anything?
08:34<tumik>[54360.660518] INFO: task rtorrent:17399 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
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08:34<tumik>[54360.660071] INFO: task kjournald:1165 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
08:34<tumik>[54360.661722] INFO: task dpkg:29067 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
08:34<tumik>[54360.662124] INFO: task smbd:29344 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
08:34<tumik>:|
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08:34<tumik>traces and stuff
08:35<hachi>I had a machine that was getting stuck like that about a month ago... 2.6.32 kernel
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08:35<hachi>it was deadlocked IO problems
08:35<tumik>I have 2.6.32-5-amd64
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08:36<hachi>I'm still doing the data recovery from that one... because I had multiple failures :\
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08:36<tumik>sounds bad.. but *brb*
08:36<hachi>I had a disk controller go bad while I was debugging the scheduler issues
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08:37<hachi>but suffice to say, had to reboot many mayny times to find how to fix that issue
08:37<hachi>elevator=deadline worked for me... dunno if that applies here or not
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08:55<wcs>hi people n_n
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09:24<wcs>hi people, I'm having a problem with amarok on lenny
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09:24<wcs>I recieve this error messege on the console: http://paste.debian.net/96913
09:24<wcs>I'm running Lenny amd64
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09:37<imperium>hellow, whats the alternative application for webmin?
09:37<imperium>since webmin has poor codes
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09:38<imperium>!webmin
09:38<dpkg>Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives.
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09:39<imperium>!free whcp
09:39<dpkg>FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP Omega> and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels
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09:40<imperium>thx
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10:09<dodddummy>i'm trying to set up a samba share on a debian box. i have a working share on my mythbuntu box and i figured i could just copy from that smb.conf file. i did that but can't access the debian share. is there something i need to do other than modify smb.conf?
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10:20<Hotas>did you add samba users?
10:20<Hotas>smbpasswd -a name
10:20<Hotas>also added it to smbusers?
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10:23<dominick>Hi! I have a HP Officejet 4300 All-in-One! As soon as I connected it, the printer was added and I could print the test page. I however am not able to scan an image from it! output of sane-find-scanner is http://paste.debian.net/96919/ and the output of "scanimage -L" is "device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname Camera virtual device". Please help!
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10:25<Hotas>I cant help you with that sorry :(
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10:40<Hotas>!foss
10:40<dpkg>foss is probably Free and Open Source Software - See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS
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10:48<Hotas>!Account Services Manager
10:48<dodddummy>Hotas, there is no smbusers group on either machine. there is a sambashare though.
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10:49<Hotas>I always add sambausers :)
10:50<Hotas>try smbpasswd -a yournick
10:51<Hotas>also you can do "valid users = yournick" on the share
10:52<Hotas>restart samba and your good togo
10:52<Hotas>How does your share look? =)
10:53<dodddummy>or i get this Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled
10:54<Hotas>I did like I told you last night
10:54<Hotas>working fine for me ;D
10:54<Hotas>:P
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11:12<renatov>hey guys
11:12<icebrain>hi renatov
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11:23<The_Snake>hey there, does anyone know how to disable the vsync on radeon drivers?
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11:31<dominick>Hi! Please help me setup my scanner. I'm not finding any info online!
11:32<dominick>Please help me setup my scanner. I'm using updated debian squeeze!
11:32<supplicant>dominick: xsane?
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11:32<dominick>supplicant, is that a driver?
11:32<supplicant>!xsane
11:32<dpkg>[sane] Scanner Access Now Easy, an <API> for scanner access. Packaged for Debian as sane, xsane (GUI frontends) and sane-utils (CLI frontend, saned server). Supported device list: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html . FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljm/SANE-faq.html . To use over a network, see http://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork . http://www.sane-project.org/ #sane at irc.freenode.net.
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11:34<dominick>supplicant, I tried that, this is the output of sane-find-scanner: http://paste.debian.net/96919/
11:35<dominick>and "scanimage -L" says "device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname Camera virtual device"
11:35<blackshell>is rhythmbox channel on debian netwok?
11:35<dominick>blackshell, no!
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11:35<blackshell>dominick:mind telling which channel please?
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11:36<dominick>blackshell, if you have issues with rhythmbox, you can discuss it here as it comes with gnome or the default debian graphic installation!
11:37<dominick>blackshell, otherwise, you can join the rhythmbox channel!
11:37<dominick>!rhythmbox
11:37<dpkg>rhythmbox is, like, an audio player inspired by Apple Inc.'s iTunes for the <GNOME> desktop. Packaged for Debian. http://live.gnome.org/Rhythmbox/FAQ http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/ #rhythmbox on irc.gimp.net.
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11:39<blackshell>dominick:thanks
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11:41<cahoot>dominick: if you run scanimage -L as root?
11:41<dominick>cahoot, there's an additional line to the previous, which is: device `hpaio:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN64BCJ6VH04GR' is a Hewlett-Packard Officejet_4300_series all-in-one
11:42<dominick>wow!
11:42<dominick>cahoot, what should I do next?
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11:42<cahoot>dominick: ls -la /dev/bus/usb/002/002
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11:44<dominick>cahoot, "no such file or directory" it's correct until /dev/bus/usb/002/
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11:46<cahoot>unplug/replug the device and see what usb device it gets
11:46<cahoot>i e via dmesg
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11:48<cahoot>it seems like a permissions matter - you want to know to what group the device is set and make <user> member of that group
11:48<dominick>cahoot, it's an all-in-one and I am able to use it for printing!
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11:49<dominick>anyways, following is the output of dmesg, which I suspect is related to scanner:
11:49<dominick>[12462.095336] usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x5411
11:49<dominick>[12463.283566] usb 2-1: usbfs: interface 1 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1
11:52<cahoot>dominick: well since root but not <user> can 'see' the scanner I draw the conclusion it's a permission thing
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11:52<dominick>cahoot, I added my user to the scanner group!
11:53<cahoot>dominick: IIRC it's another group now - lp?
11:53<dominick>cahoot, hmm! tried it, it still is not able to find the scanner!
11:53<cahoot>dominick: ther's probably a udev rule that sets the perms you might look through that rule
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11:54<dominick>cahoot, I didn't understand a bit from the last message!
11:54<dominick>can you elaborate?
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11:55<dominick>cahoot, I found this, i'll give it a try: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522848
11:55<dominick>i think that's what you meant! udev rules!
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11:56<EmleyMoor>dmm in squeeze - anyone else seeing a size mismatch when trying to upgrade dvdwizard?
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12:00<dominick>cahoot, if I try hp-scan as root, it gives a message saying "error: No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality."
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12:06<chealer>dominick: you to logout and log in again
12:06<chealer>s/you to/you need to/
12:07<dominick>chealer, thanks, I just scanned an image as root, probably a relogin will let me scan!
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12:58<killmsft>Hello, I'm trying to compile libedit from libedit_2.11~20080614.orig.tar.gz, but am not sure how to apply (or if i need to) the libedit_2.11~20080614-1.diff.gz. I tried patch -p0 < but that did not work. Any ideas?
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13:01<mmmmm>hello
13:01<ansgar>killmsft: dpkg-source -x libedit_2.11~20080614-1.dsc
13:02<mmmmm>do you know how to hack wep keys
13:02<mmmmm>?
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13:03<ansgar>mmmmm: Use the methoed described in http://xkcd.com/538/. It's supposed to work quite fast.
13:03<mmmmm>thanks do you need a usb wireless or built in
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13:03<f8l>mmmmm: It's illegal, and as such not supported here.
13:04<mmmmm>ok
13:04<mmmmm>i have just started using backtrack 4 what sort off stuff can you do
13:04<killmsft>ansgar: do you know how to do it manually? Im actually not using a debian installation (dpkg-source command not found) :|
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13:05<f8l>mmmmm: Backtrack is not Debian.
13:05<ansgar>killmsft: I guess zcat libedit_2.11~20080614-1.diff.gz | patch -p1
13:05<cahoot>mmmmm: so you've gotten yourself a toolbox and can't figure out what to do with it?
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13:06<f8l>mmmmm: Because, you know, OS is a tool, not a toy.
13:09<mmmmm>backtack 4
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13:10<@Ganneff>!bt4
13:10<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
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13:11<killmsft>ansgar: thanks that worked. Any idea on how to get libedit library compiled? in the debian directory there are no Makefiles, and the makfiles in the other bsds appear to be from NetBSD
13:12<killmsft>other bsds = other directories from the patched libedit source
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13:14<ansgar>killmsft: Debian uses debian/rules for buidling packages. The upstream build system is usually called from there, but Debian-specific tools are often used (debhelper, cdbs, ...). Sometimes patches from debian/patches/* are applied during this as well.
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13:17<ansgar>killmsft: libedit uses pmake and the shipped Makefile (for NetBSD).
13:18<killmsft>ansgar: okay I'm slowly getting somewhere after pmake, then chmod a+x makelist , now some editing for the glibc-compat I'm guessing
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13:27<killmsft>do i copy these created editline.so, etc to /lib, /usr/lib or /lib64?
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14:07<mourad>slt
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14:07<mourad>hello
14:07<mourad>hi
14:07<mourad>hello
14:08<mourad>slt
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14:08<TomassoSK>hallo I am using squeeze, I have 1280x800 resolution in console and it is too slow, I have nvidia drivers. I am using slovak layout and fixed font.
14:09<TomassoSK>What can I do?
14:09<pipe>Use Xorg instead of console?
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14:10<TomassoSK>I am using xorg, it is working fine, but I need also working console :)
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14:14<TomassoSK>And slow console is only in tty1 screen
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14:17<pipe>not in tty2/3/4?
14:17<TomassoSK>no only in tty1
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14:19<pipe>odd
14:19<pipe>maybe you have some thing there like a console clock?
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14:38<Fireshi>Hi do you speak french??
14:39<Fireshi>Ganneff
14:39<Fireshi>yo
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14:39<jordanm>!fr
14:39<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
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14:41<TomassoSK>I have found the problem with my console
14:41<TomassoSK>I was using slim manager and he make my tty1 slow
14:41<pipe>I think I've had such odd issues with slim too
14:42<TomassoSK>I changed slim with gdm
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14:43<TomassoSK>Debian rulez :)
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15:28<f8l>pipe: Yes. Slim has a known bug which is said to be easy to fix, but no one ever did i think. ;-)
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15:38<tofix>hello all, i'm tring a very stupid exercise consisting of write a poor hello world in C ... compile it with gcc 4 ... objdump the result ... concatenate the op code result with \x ... the result is working fine on every kernel <2.6.16 but not recent .... is there something preventing lamz like me to try to shellcode :(
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15:39<jordanm>I wouldn't be suprised if there is some sort of security feature preventing it. perhaps a #c or #security on freenode would be better place to ask
15:39<tofix>jordanm, thanks for your advise .
15:39<jordanm>np
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16:25<diego>hey there, anyone here knows how to modify a packet with iptables
16:25<diego>I would like to modify certain packets (already know how to detect them) to make the hash incorrect and make the program believe there was a transmission error
16:27<diego>any way to modify a packet that will generate make the checksum incorrect would be ok
16:29<behael>try /usr/src/your_linux_kernel_source/Documentation/networking/pktgen.txt
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16:30<behael>diego: try /usr/src/your_linux_kernel_source/Documentation/networking/pktgen.txt
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16:33<diego>behael: no documentation folder :S
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16:34<diego>but packet generation seems to be more than I really need to do
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16:35<diego>so, the thing is my stupid ISP is injecting fake packets to shape traffic (RST flag) and if I just drop them, then I will produce timeouts (it fixes the problem but I dont want the timeout)
16:35<diego>so, my idea is that if I just change one bit
16:35<jhutchins_lt>diego: So install the kernel docs.
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16:35<diego>it will be considered a tranmission error
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16:35<diego>no timeout, no shape
16:35<ompaul>and they reset all your sessions and start again ....
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16:36<diego>they dont reset them if I drop the packages :)
16:36<diego>--tcp-flags RST RST -j DROP but it causes timeouts
16:37<diego>they are not even doing it correctly as its only sent one-way (to me)
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16:39<behael>dropping with iptables is one thing, changing a bit for that purpose probably require crafting packets. My knowledge in this area is very, very limited. =\
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16:41<mahboule>hello
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17:22<hever>Hello I've a zope server that stops working if I stress test it. It freezes the whole system and I can't access the system via SSH or ping it. There are no logs in debug mode and no informations in syslog. I think this may not happen and zope should perhaps stall, but not the whole system! Any ideas how to figure out the problem?
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17:26<supplicant>hever: nice
17:27<alvarezp>hever: i would look for kernel issues, not zope issues.
17:28<hever>how? I thought about a core dump but I'm not sure if they would just waste my time.
17:28<alvarezp>hever: core dump have nothing to do. dmesg, enable all available logging for the server, checkout messages directly on the console, etc.
17:29<alvarezp>You might have a kernel panic.
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17:30<alvarezp>hever: except if your programming is bombing the system (for example, if your code is triggering a forkbomb effect because of forking faster than subprocesses can finish )
17:30<hever>Well this is a stress test situation.
17:31<OdyX>hever: if you don't limit zope, I see no reason for it not to take all possible resources .
17:31<alvarezp>hever: if you believe this is the situation, tweak the stress test to find the largest it can handle, and work from there.
17:31<OdyX>so I don't see "makes my system unuseable" a wrong behaviour for a stress test.
17:32<alvarezp>and remember it all depend on how expensive each process is.
17:33<hever>OdyX, yes ok you're right. But I expect not a freeze of the whole system. I would expect a massive slow down or perhaps a freeze or shutdown of zope but linux should not freeze...
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17:33<OdyX>hever: you'd maybe want to tweak the oom killer them
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17:37<k-man_>there seems to be a problem with one of the files on my prefered mirror: E: Failed to fetch http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqtgui4_4.6.3-1+b1_i386.deb: Hash Sum mismatch
17:37<k-man_>i tried adding a different mirror but aptitude always tries to get the file from internode - how can i work around this problem?
17:38<hever>OdyX, how?
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17:39<jordanm>k-man_: you have to run aptitude update after changing mirrors
17:40<k-man_>yes
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17:42<ComradeHaz`>Hi all. I have changed the log level of backupninja to only send warning mail but it persists sending mails of all levels. I wondered if there was a service I need to restart in order that the the config is reloaded but I cannot see what this might be. Can anyone advise, please?
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17:44<hever>OdyX, how is the oom killing implemented?
17:44<jordanm>ComradeHaz`: its probably stout from cron. check the cronjob
17:45<hever>but at least the system have enough virtual memory...
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17:46<ComradeHaz`>cronjob just calls /usr/sbin/backupninja
17:46<jordanm>ComradeHaz`: if there is no redirction in the crontab, then all stout will be mailed
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17:47<ComradeHaz`>I don;t really follow.
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17:47<ComradeHaz`>It's the mail from backupninja I'm getting
17:47<ComradeHaz`>got log-check or somesuch
17:48<ComradeHaz`>and it is the backupninja confiog file I have changed to not mail all levels. So why does that not sort it?
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17:49<jordanm>ComradeHaz`: when and application is ran what you see outputed to the console it known as 'stdout' (somtimes stderr as well). when this is ran via cron that output goes to the user's mail, in this case, root
17:49<ComradeHaz`>Ah, I have missread the config haven't I?!
17:49<jordanm>ComradeHaz`: you can redirect that output to say, /dev/null
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17:49<ComradeHaz`>Well, I want to get a mail on warning or 'above' only
17:49<jordanm>but this is just speculation on my part, of what the issue is
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17:49<jordanm>ComradeHaz`: show me the cron file
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17:50<ComradeHaz`>jordanm, http://pastebin.com/rjUG7FXX
17:53<jordanm>ComradeHaz`: try changing to: 0 * * * * root if [ -x /usr/sbin/backupninja ]; then /usr/sbin/backupninja > /dev/null; fi and see if you still get any mail
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17:53<jordanm>this is assuming it has its own built-in system for mailing
17:53<ComradeHaz`>Well, it should be configurable from tyhe prpgramme itself
17:53<ComradeHaz`>inded I know it is somehow
17:53<ComradeHaz`>just trying to find out how
17:53<jordanm>ComradeHaz`: right, so if it has its own built-in mailing a bug needs to be filed so that cron is not mailing in addition to the application itself
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17:54<ComradeHaz`>Hmm, I am pretty sure my mail comes from ninjahelper
17:55<ComradeHaz`>Sorry, backupninja
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17:56<ComradeHaz`>Ah, got it. I was being a muppet. I was confusing log level and mail; level.
17:58<ComradeHaz`>thanks jordanm :)
17:58<jordanm>anytime
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19:51<EmleyMoor>aptitude full-upgrade when going from lenny to squeeze on my laptop has "stopped" - 99% [Working] - after 1357 Gets
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20:02<adama>Ctrl-C and run it again
20:03<EmleyMoor>In progress again
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20:15<EmleyMoor>Has anyone seen a size mismatch when trying to upgrade dvdwizard from debian-multimedia under squeeze?
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20:44<EmleyMoor>Why does the gnome tray volume control no longer open a mixer, but Sound Preferences instead?
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20:53<qq->EmleyMoor, in squeeze it open a mixer
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20:54<marios>hi
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20:54<marios>can anyone help me ive got a problem with backtrack
20:54<qq->!backtrack
20:54<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
20:55<alvarezp>!based on debian
20:55<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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21:05<mattcen>Also, I believe Backtrack's official channel is Freenode/#remote-exploit
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21:06<Duber>gotta love dpkg bot <3
21:06<cthuluh>#remote-exploit... who do they think they are? 8)
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21:07<Duber>the kind of people who need a complete distro to get a wep key D:
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21:18<mattcen>(Apologies, #remote-exploit is a hysterical channel, and the official one is indeed #backtrack-linux)
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21:29<jd_sjm>#canal canaima
21:29<jd_sjm>-.-
21:29<killmsft>where can i get lzop ?
21:29<killmsft>the source
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21:36<bremner>killmsft: apt-get source lzop, if your source.list is set up right.
21:37<killmsft>cool thanks
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22:01<EmleyMoor>squeeze went on my laptop fairly easily :-)
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22:34<EmleyMoor>bluetooth isn't starting at startup on my laptop - and even when started, it can't access the modem in my phone (channel 22)
22:34<EmleyMoor>This worked under lenny
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23:06<easthero>hi,all . Does tar of debian support --selinux and --xattrs ?
23:06<easthero>I found centos support it
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23:21<jordanm>easthero: you mean it preserves the security contexts in the archive?
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23:21<easthero>jordanm, yes
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23:22<easthero>tar: unrecognized option '--selinux'
23:22<nil_>Hi everybody. I need some help in how to configure my eth2
23:23<nil_>I've tried everything but it doesn't work.
23:23<EmleyMoor>nil_: What help do you need with it?
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23:24<rainfly_x>It's possible that you have correctly configured it but you need to restart the network
23:24<nil_>Hi.I've configured just everything right, but it doesn't let the second PC avigate
23:25<nil_>*navigate
23:25<rainfly_x>You can do this by restarting your computer, but there's a command line something that's a bit less drastic
23:25<rainfly_x>I can't remember what it was though
23:25<nil_>My network was restarted
23:25<rainfly_x>OK, then it wasn't that.
23:25<nil_>I set the IP tables
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23:26<rainfly_x>What is your network setup, like, as a diagram?
23:26<easthero>jordanm, any idea?
23:26<rainfly_x>But then converted into words
23:26<jordanm>easthero: I would say no
23:27<jordanm>its probably a patch that RHEL applies
23:27<rainfly_x>How are your PCs physically connected with cables, what is your cable setup
23:27<jordanm>seperate from upstream
23:27<nil_>My first PC is Debian lenny 5.0 and the second is win7
23:28<nil_>The network PCI board is to lenny and the second to serve win7
23:28<nil_>My cable is crossover
23:29<easthero>jordanm, I wonder It doesn't have a bug report
23:29<nil_>Let me explain the history
23:29<jordanm>easthero: you mean like a wishlist bug requesting the patch be added?
23:31<nil_>I have a radio internet that has 1Mb.This come to my Lenny.
23:31<easthero>jordanm, yes
23:31<nil_>And now I have win7 and configured to receive network from Lenny.
23:32<nil_>But it does not have traffic
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23:32<rainfly_x>So basically you need to set up your Lenny as if it's a router
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23:33<nil_>How to set it just like a router?
23:33<jordanm>easthero: feel free to file one. selinux as a somewhat low popularity in debian. it needs quite a bit of work in terms of people writting default policies
23:34<jordanm>nil_: are you running lenny?
23:34<nil_>I've tried everything
23:34<nil_>Yes.
23:34<jordanm>!ipmasq
23:34<dpkg>If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ . The ipmasq package was removed from Debian post-Lenny to resolve bug #538384.
23:34<nil_>Now I'm using Lenny.Win is only to support
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23:36<nil_>I"m installing ipmasq now.
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23:38<nil_>ready.It is installed
23:38<nil_>And now?just test?
23:38<jordanm>yep
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23:41<nil_>But don't i to restart network?
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23:46<nil_>My network receives but does not send
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23:50<nil_>jordan?
23:51<nil_>It continues without sending signal.
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23:58<k-man_>so whenever i try and build the lirc-kernel modules in squeeze, i get a compile error
23:58<k-man_>it's been this way for a long time afaict
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23:59<k-man_>shouldn't it either be fixed or pulled from squeeze prior to release
23:59<k-man_>?
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