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00:01<EmleyMoor>Is there an easy way to find out if anything is occupying my sound card?
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00:03<slurb>if you hear something
00:03<slurb>whats your problem
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00:04<EmleyMoor>slurb: audacity will not record - it just refuses to go
00:04<slurb>record?
00:05<slurb>EmleyMoor, from an input on the sound card?
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00:05<EmleyMoor>slurb: Yes
00:05<slurb>line in
00:05<slurb>turn mute off
00:05<slurb>just a thought
00:05<EmleyMoor>Tried every which way. Still no go
00:06<EmleyMoor>(it is not recording silence, it is simply not "going")
00:06<NeonLevel>Hello everyone, is there any instructions on how to manually compile my own version of ffmpeg with H.264 AVC + AAC Audio, I need to convert some videos to my ipod and this tools refuses to do it with the repo version , please help!
00:06<NeonLevel>Sorry I have Debian Testing
00:07<slurb>theres your problem
00:07<slurb>NeonLevel,
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00:08<slurb>EmleyMoor, the only thing i can think of is that the line in is muted and turned down in the alsa mixer volume control
00:08<dbldtx>EmleyMoor; same issue you were having approx one week ago?
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00:08<EmleyMoor>dbldtx: Less than.
00:08<slurb>either that or it is a bug in audacity
00:09<dbldtx>EmleyMoor; but not a new issue or related, but the same problem you were having then? If it is, is anything else not working properly?
00:09<NeonLevel>slurb: I didn't understand , what is the problem?
00:09<EmleyMoor>It exhibited this problem earlier in the week but only intermittently. Now permanentlf
00:09<EmleyMoor>permanently stuck
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00:10<dbldtx>What about using an alternitive to Audacity?
00:10<slurb>backtrace all the things you did and figure out where you screwed up EmleyMoor
00:10<EmleyMoor>dbldtx: I don't think a really viable alternative exists
00:11<dbldtx>...have you been able to test a known good microphone or at least a second (different) mic? I'm assuming you're still trying to use the integrated keyboard mic?
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00:11<EmleyMoor>dbldtx: No, nothing to do with that problem
00:12<EmleyMoor>(this is NOT a "records silence" problem but a "does not go" problem)
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00:12<EmleyMoor>This is line in, coming from my sound system, that I am trying to record
00:12<NeonLevel>manual to compile my own version of ffmpeg? please advice!
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00:13<dbldtx>EmleyMoor; About alternatives, http://alternativeto.net/software/audacity/ but unlikely that's what you came her asking for. You are using ALSA, correct?
00:14<EmleyMoor>I can neither meter nor record the sound using audacity - attempting to record leaves it stuck at 0. Yes, using alsa
00:14<dbldtx>Is it giving you any errors, or just the symptom (no sound)
00:14<EmleyMoor>No sound is not the symptom. Not going is the symptom.
00:15<dbldtx>Not going? Are you trying to figure out how to make it go?
00:16<EmleyMoor>No, I'm trying to figure out why, when I do what is needed, it doesn't
00:16<slurb>EmleyMoor, check the alsa site for your card and see what the driver supports. line in may not work
00:17<EmleyMoor>slurb: Irrelevant. When audacity will "go", all is fine
00:17<dbldtx>http://www.marriedtothesea.com/111907/not-good-with-paper.gif
00:20<dbldtx>EmleyMoor; Sorry, couldn't resist. What's the output of "cat /proc/asound/cards" ?
00:22<EmleyMoor>http://paste.debian.net/99278/ - though I doubt it will help
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00:24<dbldtx>Fellow on a forum says "Go into Edit -> Preferences and in that first screen, make sure you have either ALSA: default or ALSA: ATI SB selected."
00:24<EmleyMoor>I have...
00:25<dbldtx>EmleyMoor, other than that, I've found: http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4006 and really can't help much more beyond that.. I hope you get this resolved - keep us posted.
00:25<EmleyMoor>No errors
00:27<EmleyMoor>As for alternatives, one that can do a single stereo track will do - as long as it has good level monitoring
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00:29<dbldtx>Well if you saw that alternativesto.net link I posted... that may help out if you can't get this resolved.
00:30<nevyn>I can't understand audacity. the ui just doesn't make sense to me.
00:30<nevyn>ardour is awesome tho ;)
00:30<EmleyMoor>nevyn: ardour seems to depend on a lot oyf stuff I would rather not have
00:31<nevyn>jack's the biggie but I get that.
00:31<nevyn>it depends what you're doing.
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00:40<mib_cxlfx1>hi
00:41<mib_cxlfx1>hi
00:42<dbldtx>mib_cxlfx1; hallo
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01:06<NeonLevel>Hello everyone, is there any instructions on how to manually compile my own version of ffmpeg with H.264 AVC + AAC Audio, I need to convert some videos to my ipod and this tools refuses to do it with the repo version , I'm using debian testing!, please advice
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01:08<prahal__>NeonLevel, maybe you want to try marillat repo (debian multimedia packages)
01:08<jm_>does it have ffmpeg?
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01:08<NeonLevel>any url link?
01:08<prahal__>sure
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01:09<prahal__>http://debian-multimedia.org/
01:09<NeonLevel>checking it thanks for the help!
01:09<prahal__>if you want to build nevertheless using their source packages as an example might be of help
01:10<NeonLevel>really apreciate!
01:10<jm_>ahh it has it in testing, but not in stable
01:10<NeonLevel>tried to rebuild, but is a pain in the *ss!
01:10<jm_>all such tools are
01:11<prahal__>ouch sorry ... never used stable since potato so I missed this point
01:11<jm_>he's using testing anyway, so it was spot on
01:11<NeonLevel>i know exactly what you mean, i did come from a source distro "slack" , nevertheless is far better binary distros they're huge life savers
01:12<prahal__>http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ shows ffmpeg
01:12<jm_>heh I went through the same process - back in the early days I used slackware, and hated packages - the real reason was that debian didn't work with my crap hardware though
01:12<jm_>ahh so it's missing for amd64
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01:13<NeonLevel>i simply don't understand why there's a crippled version of ffmpeg, i thought of changing distros, but am very happy with debian!
01:13<prahal__>patent
01:13<jm_>nope, web page finds it, but apt-cache doesn't show it for me
01:13<prahal__>they are applicable in any countries not in europa thankfully
01:14<NeonLevel>not in mexico either
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01:14<NeonLevel>gosh i hate those patent things, they're rocks in the highway...
01:14<jm_>ok it is showing up just fine even with apt-cache, it's just too early for me
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01:15<jm_>d-m repository is often a life saver
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01:16<prahal__>what is weird is that they seem to have the same deadlline as for hw patents . more than 5 years is giving monopoly for software
01:17<NeonLevel>;-)
01:18<prahal__>it is not that it is unfair . It mostly prevent competition . Though now that the market has switched from deal software to deal patents try to go back
01:19<NeonLevel>competition?, i won't understand those guys...
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01:22<NeonLevel>great finally ffmpeg with legs, thank you very much for the pointer!
01:22<NeonLevel>even mencoder with legs, thanks <prahal__>
01:23<mansi>hey friends, I have two WAN connections connected to my debian server. Have many clients. I need to some clients to use WAN1 while other WAN2 through Squid3 proxy
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01:23<mansi>How ot do it in?
01:23<cesurasean>congrats on the beta of the new installer!
01:24<mansi>Is there any settings in squid3?
01:24<prahal__>they are attached to the same interface ?
01:25<NeonLevel>there's no way to select diferent paths using squid, because now squid is "doing" the requests....
01:26<mansi>I have three interfaces, eth0 and PPP0 to wan, while eth1 to the lan switch
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01:27<prahal__>I thought about if you could attach squid to only on internal network or interface this would do the trick
01:28<prahal__>but if you have only one internal interface and network ...
01:29<prahal__>nufw might be of help to discriminate the clients . Still I miss the know how
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01:29<mansi>Actually i got some hints about the tcp_outgoing_address directive in squid
01:29<mansi>but not clearly working
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01:32<mansi>@prahal_ can you please expalin how it is done by attaching squid to one internal interface?
01:32<mansi>I am able to distribute traffic among two wans, using advanced routeing techniq using iproute2
01:32<jm_>you can use transparent proxying
01:33<mansi>but when squid is turned on, this is not working
01:33<mansi>@jm, squid is in transparent mode now
01:33<prahal__>oh I misunderstood . Thought you wanted any specific users though wan2+squid and others through wan1
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01:34<jm_>mansi: then simply use the right rules
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01:34<prahal__>not that any client could go via one or the other
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01:35<mansi>@jm, I can use the rule when directly tunneling the trafic, wihtout any control on the browsing. But when squid proxy is turned on, I dont know how to do this :(
01:36<jm_>mansi: I don't really understand which part you have a problem with
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01:40<mansi>Okay, I have two wan's, WAN1=eth0 and WAN2=ppp0. The LAN clients are connected through eth1. I need the squid to pass the traffic through WAN1 for some client IPs while through WAN2 for the rest, so that Internet traffic is distributed through the two WANs
01:40<mansi>Right now all traffic is passing through WAN1(eth0) only
01:40<mansi>Not using ppp0
01:44<jm_>mansi: and you can't use tcp_outgoing_address ?
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01:46<mansi>No, I am getting the Error: Socket Failure , Squid is unable to create a TCP socket, presumably due to excessive load. Please retry your request.
01:47<mansi>Actually there is no load at all, this goes when that directive is commented out
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01:48<jm_>maybe try to strace it to see what the real error is
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01:50<mansi>Okay, let me check
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02:35<msit>hi guys, how can i check if kvm works? kvm-ok is not available
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03:06<huasen>hi, how to save my firewall settings, such as iptables' rules?
03:08<jm_>iptables-save
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03:10<huasen>thanks jm. and, did you see my sound issue about front audio panel?
03:11<jm_>huasen: no
03:12<huasen>ok. it puzzles me for a long time. the frond audio panel doesn't work for me, but it works in windows
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03:13<huasen>i reported this problem to linuxquestions forum and debian mail list, but have not gotten the solution so far
03:15<jm_>no idea, try playing with alsa mixer if there's a toggle for it
03:15<huasen>the line of front audio panel comes from motherboard directly. and i enable all the vols in almixer
03:16<huasen>*alsamixer
03:16<jm_>yeah both front and back are probably the connected to the same chip, but there might be a on/off toggle - not sure if jack sense detection works in ALSA
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03:17<huasen>i also tried using a ubuntu 10.10 live cd, but got the same problem.
03:18<jm_>I never use front audio so I have no clue how to do it
03:18<huasen>but, where is the jack, and where is the toggle?
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03:19<jm_>jack is the audio connector - toggle should be shown in alsamixer (try pressing F5 to show all controls)
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03:20<huasen>here, i use front panel for headphone, i hate plug in and out it between two holes
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03:21<huasen>oh, i keep all of them on
03:22<jm_>you would probably have more luck on the alsa users mailing list
03:23<huasen>yes? subscribe from debian.org? or anywhere else
03:24<jm_>http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Mailing-lists
03:24<jm_>maybe search that page first
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03:24<jm_>the site, not the page
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03:25<huasen>thanks, jm. im on the way
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03:40<twb>pmacct, bandwidthd, or something else?
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03:42<twb>I dropped xtables' -j ACCOUNT on there, which is working well apart from needing to roll the userland aggregation/reporting myself.
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04:26<SQlvpapir>the xserver-xorg-video-intel package from unstable has the following in the package description: "More information about X.Org can be found at: <URL:http://www.X.org>" <- is the "<URL:..>" in any way needed or allowed?
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04:28<twb>It isn't needed
04:29<twb>It's just whoever wrote that is used to doing it that way in plain text
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04:38<cfrabel>Hi all.
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04:47<mjt>I've seen dpkg --status lising with OBSOLETE conffiles. Am I dreaming or is such a thing (obsolete conffile) really exist in some listing?
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04:51<mjt>aha. yes there is, and it is dpkg --status indeed
04:51<mjt>the listings are in /var/lib/dpkg/status
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04:52*twb grumbles about the state of IFB/IMQ documentation (and QoS in general).
04:54<mjt>add macvtap and veth there too ;)
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04:54<twb>The kernel's Kconfig for IFB says "see iproute2 documentation directory", and iproute-doc contains ZERO references to "IFB".
04:55<twb>I'm really really tempted to just leave it as the default pfifo_fast
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05:05<twb>je: English, please.
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05:21<jdemano>yop
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05:23<seb_>hi jdemano
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05:25<kevman> Hey ppl, I installed red5 with this guide, since apt just did nothing but bogus, http://www.red5server.org/content_red5installdebian_500005 However, I cant reach http://ip.adr.srv:5080 or can't connect through the rtmp application I want it to run. As far as I know, all important ports are open, all other sites on the server work like a charm. Server is a Debian Lenny netstat -ant brings http://pastebin.com/WJ8xaxgw it seems as no ma
05:25<kevman>ndatory port is listening Please help
05:25<jdemano>maman
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05:27<twb>kevman: you fucked up
05:27<twb>kevman: you should have said "apt-get install red5-server"
05:28<kevman>didn't work
05:28<twb>In what way did it "not work"?
05:29<mjt>heh. brilliant. so we screw our system somehow, next when we want to use it the system complains, so instead of fixing it we screw it further.
05:29<twb>mjt: I knew a sysadmin like that
05:30<kevman>I was able connect via :5080 but not able to connect to the actual stream
05:30<mjt>kevman: work with the system, it is here FOR you, don't fight with it.. ;)
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05:32<mjt>at least they're installed into /usr/local/
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05:33<mjt>i wonder why that howto suggests installing dh-make/devscripts and other stuff to build debian packages while no debian package is being built ;)
05:33<kevman>it is, when I installed it the first time however (via apt-get) it was installed in /usr/lib/
05:34<mjt>yeah, that's the proper way for a debian package
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05:34<mjt>what's red5 anyway?
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05:34<kevman>rtmp streaming server
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05:35<themill>,info red5-server --release sid
05:35<judd>Package red5-server (java, optional) in sid/i386: flash streaming server. Version: 0.9.1-4; Size: 79.6k; Installed: 324k; Homepage: http://www.red5.org/
05:35<twb>mjt: apt-cache show red5-server
05:35<themill>twb: not in lenny, btw.
05:35<twb>themill: I was getting to that :P
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06:12<weasel>you'd think he'd learn
06:12<weasel>maybe next time
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06:30<kevman>I tried it now with apt-get install red5 and I have a partly success, my srv.ip.adr:5080 works now, but I can't get anything done, maybe someone who has installed a red5 server before is in here
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06:31<twb>I think there's probably a low correlation between Debian and Flash users
06:31<kevman>unfortunately there is now workaround
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06:32<twb>kevman: I can think of one: kill every flash user
06:33*kevman hangs himself
06:33<twb>Thanks
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06:35<kevman>I came back from the dead, however, I need help regarding this. Not the slightest idea?
06:35<EmleyMoor>Going to have to reboot, think my audio hardware may be "unwell"
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06:39<twb>I don't talk to zombies
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06:41<Nemoder>I was never able to setup my own flash streaming site but I did discover justin.tv supports streaming with VLC
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06:51<EmleyMoor>My audacity problem appeared to be due to my sond card not working properly. What's the right way on squeeze to reload all drivers for alsa-supported sound cards?
06:52<kl4q>hi guys, i want to make my mic in jack work as output jack, how do i do that? i use debian squeeze
06:52<EmleyMoor>kl4q: I don't believe that to be possible
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06:53<kl4q>EmleyMoor: it surely is
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06:56<EmleyMoor>I've not heard of it being possible in any OS
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06:57<kl4q>i'm using it on windows
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06:58<jm_>:)
06:58<EmleyMoor>kl4q: It's probably a sound card specific thing
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06:58<jm_>similar question to what another person had earlier - how to route sound to front audio panel
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07:00<kl4q>is there a solution though?
07:01<jm_>no idea, I told him to ask on alsa user mailing list
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07:03<kl4q>bad luck, ok thanks jm_
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07:08<ananth123>can anyone help me to play mp3 in rhythmbox ? i get an error saying No URI set
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07:10<kl4q>did you import any files to library?
07:10<ananth123>yes
07:11<ananth123>i can play them using mpg123 from command line
07:11<ananth123>when i click on a file to play in the library, i get this error message
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07:13<ananth123>btw.... i just installed squeeze
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07:13<kl4q>congrats ;]
07:13<ananth123>yet to install everything
07:13<kl4q>but that's weird problem i don't think i can work it ouy ;(
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07:14<ananth123>does it use pulseaudio or alsa ?
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07:14<kl4q>it uses what it got i suppose
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07:17<jm_>tried installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad?
07:18<ananth123>yes, have bad, base, good, ugly, fluendo-mp3, alsa
07:18<ananth123>pulseaudio, x
07:18<ananth123>and nice
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07:24<ananth123>ok, fixed it by editing gstreamer settings via gconf-editor
07:24<ananth123>weird
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07:43<nevyn>so in a text if you hit a forumula that used 2ΠfL would it be obvious to you that was the same as 2πfL ?
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08:42<kevman>could someone please mcgoogle me through the red5 installation, I need some help here
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08:45<anaa>becauise you e a bith ar
08:45<anaa>marikon cabron ç
08:45<anaa>tus muetisx
08:45<anaa>mozn
08:45<anaa>marikon cabron puton
08:45<anaa>tus muertoz
08:46<anaa>cxdo9 ght'nrb
08:46<themill>!ubuntu-es anaa
08:46<dpkg>anaa: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
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08:47<anaa>una pa ti como una casa marikon
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09:11<kevman> Hey ppl, I installed red5 However, I can reach http://ip.adr.srv:5080 but can connect through any rtmp application I want it to run. As far as I know, all important ports are open, all other sites on the server work like a charm. It looks like non of the essential ports are listening. Server is a Debian Lenny
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09:36<Bleupomme>hello. I installed apt-cacher-ng the other day (debian squeeze, latest package). But I 'm getting bad signature during apt-get update
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09:47<rhlee1>hi guys which channel for packaging specifically font packaging
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09:51<rhlee1>qq-: cheers mate
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10:10<Bleupomme>should I use apt-proxy apt-cacher-ng or approx?
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10:12<dennis_s>oops selected ext4 for /home need /etx3 instead
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10:13<dennis_s>how can I reformat the /home to correct fs after completed install of squeeze?
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10:23<dennis_s>phew finally found an answer on lq.org
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10:47<ibrahimn>cc ya kelk un
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10:57<s4br3>Hi, Im running 64 bit Debian Testing, but get an error for wrong ELF class for libopenal1 which should be 32 bit, if I understand it. How do i install a 32 bit .so file?! It is not in my /usr/IA32 library.
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10:58<Bleupomme>dennis_s: backup all files, umount /home, mkfs.ext3 the disk with your home directory, change fstab, mount /home/, restore backedup files,
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10:59<ananth123>s4br3, copy the lib to the /usr/ia32 library folder
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11:00<s4br3>ananth123: Im trying to install the Prey game. But I don't have the 32 bit version for Linux as far as I can tell..
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11:08<r4co0n>Hello debian-folks. Im running Linux ru3d1g3r 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Sep 16 15:56:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux. After updating to squeeze my k3b doesnt wanna find my LG-burner anymore. i believe its something about permissions :).t K3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices. dpkg -s sagt Package: hal Status: install ok installed. Jede Hilfe ist willkommen, ich muss d
11:09<r4co0n>sry enter-fail
11:09<mjt>is k3b still using hal?
11:09*mjt sighs
11:09<r4co0n>dpkg -s says Package: hal Status: install ok installed. Every help is appreciated, i gotta burn an image --- last sentence in english
11:09<dpkg>You Fool! says Package: hal Status: install ok installed. Every help is appreciated, i gotta burn an image --- last sentence in english is installed!
11:10<mjt>lol
11:10<r4co0n>^^
11:10<r4co0n>@mjt seems like that
11:11<bja>!@
11:11<dpkg>@ is used to separate the username from the hostname in an email address, to denote channel operators on IRC, and to direct comments to particular users in some web forums. It is NOT used to direct comments on IRC; use "name: ..." instead of "@name ...".
11:11<mjt>can't you just point it to /dev/cdrom ?
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11:12<mjt>(i hever even had it installed, just guessing)
11:12<r4co0n>but i also installed xfburn, it recognizes the drive, but it hasnt got write permissions
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11:12<mjt>for write perms add your user to cdrom group
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11:14<r4co0n>so i gotta say: sudo usermod -a -g r4co0n cdrom
11:14<r4co0n>?!
11:15<r4co0n>dont wanna do something wrong i dont know how to reverse...
11:15<mjt>like that. consult the manpage of usermod to be sure :)
11:16<youam>r4co0n: or use: adduser r4co0n cdrom
11:16<r4co0n>sudo usermod -a -G cdrom r4co0n seems to have been right
11:16<r4co0n>works like a charm!
11:17<@Ganneff>why that complicated?
11:17<@Ganneff>adduser user group
11:17<r4co0n>loving the easy solution, thanks guys, now im gonna burn win7 64bit... waited to tell u till i got it fixed ;P
11:18<youam>Ganneff: see three lines above yours...
11:18<@Ganneff>youam: geh weg
11:18<r4co0n>@Ganneff it just was the first command i stumbled upon googling---
11:18<youam>Ganneff: bin ich doch. urlaub ist was schoenes..
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11:19<r4co0n>so why did i go through translating my question?!
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11:22<r4co0n>Damn, i hate to say it, but somehow i just thought it got fixed, cause the error at startup didnt appear to me for once... still same problem
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11:22<r4co0n>is hal a user on its own or something?
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11:26<r4co0n>so i was still to early telling u about my malicious aims...
11:26<r4co0n>:P
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11:34-!-mode/#debian [-b *!*@87.222.19.217] by themill
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11:36<bja>!coffee themill
11:36*dpkg decants a fine brew of organic Peruvian for themill, courtesy of bja
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11:40<r4co0n>ls /lib/modules2.6.26-2-amd64 2.6.32-5-amd64
11:40<r4co0n>i dont need em both, do i?
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11:41<r4co0n>when i did my dist-upgrade, i had some problem with disk-space while extracting, this could have messed up something couldnt it?
11:41<Torsten_W>r4co0n, if you have both kernel installed, you need both, if you will use both kernels
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11:42<Class>Hi Guys my flash player crashes every time is click to full screen button
11:42<Torsten_W>r4co0n, otherwise purge the not needed kernel and header packages
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11:42<Class>on every browser in iceweacel even crashes when i click to full screen
11:43<Torsten_W>and?
11:43<Class>i try uninstalling and installing flash but same
11:43<Torsten_W>what should anyone do against this?
11:43<Class>how can i fix this ?
11:43<Torsten_W>ask adobe
11:43<Torsten_W>flash is closed source
11:43<Class>Torsten_W, oh really ?
11:44<r4co0n>uname -a says
11:44<r4co0n>Linux ru3d1g3r 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Sep 16 15:56:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
11:44<r4co0n>so the newer kernel doesnt seem to be in use does it?
11:44<Torsten_W>Class, you have seen the source-code of flashplayer?
11:44<Class>Torsten_W, yep do you ?
11:44<Torsten_W>r4co0n, then boot em
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11:44<Torsten_W>Class, ha ha ha
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11:44<Class>I did not came here to judge FUCKING FLASH PLAYER and FUCKING ADOBE
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11:45<Class>i just want to watch videos
11:45<Torsten_W>ask adobe
11:45<Torsten_W>they have written flashplayer
11:45<Class>FUCK adobe
11:45<Torsten_W>no one can fix anything in flashplayer besides adobe
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11:46<Class>Torsten_W, okay but i use it on my another machine there is lenny too
11:46<Class>and works there nice
11:46<r4co0n>@Thorsten_W So how to do that? I want to throw away the old kernel and boot to the new one, it also may resolve my freaking not-being-able-to-burn-issue...
11:46<kop>Class: If you want to watch youtube you could try downloading the firefox 4 beta, which does html 5. I've no clue if this works.
11:46<Torsten_W>r4co0n, reboot and choose the new kernel?
11:46<r4co0n>its not listed on grub
11:47<Class>kop, chrome has html5 support
11:47<Torsten_W>r4co0n, how you have installed this new kernel?
11:47<Class>but the problem is that html5 is not
11:47<Class>in wide usage
11:47<r4co0n>i guess i broke something when i dist-upgraded...
11:47<r4co0n>when it was extracting it ran out of space on root...
11:47<Torsten_W>r4co0n, then fix it
11:47<Class>i hate ADobe
11:48<kop>Class: I thought that google was converting youtube to html 5 when requested as such, dynamically.
11:48<r4co0n>i aint no fixer
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11:48<Torsten_W>r4co0n, you cant run your system with a broken dist-upgrade
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11:49<r4co0n>to fix it i killed my win data partition and made it part of root, afterwards i had to reinstall grub2 to be able to boot to linux again and afterwards i apt-get upgraded...
11:49<r4co0n>with squeeze sources
11:49<raul>Hy there I have a little question I am working on a shell script and I would like to know how can I check if a variable string contains blanck chars for instance par=SOMETHING TO_CHECK; I would like to know how to detect that $par contains a blanck char
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11:53<r4co0n>Torsten_W at 17:48 i forgot to call you...
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11:54<Torsten_W>r4co0n, what does dpkg -l | grep linux-image show?
11:54<r4co0n>ii linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 2.6.26-25lenny1 Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64
11:55<Torsten_W>there is no kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 installed
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11:55<Torsten_W>r4co0n, apt-get install linux-image-2.6-amd64
11:55<r4co0n>but its laying around somewhere, since ls /lib/modules2.6.26-2-amd64 2.6.32-5-amd64
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11:56<Torsten_W>r4co0n, /lib/modules foo are headers
11:57<Torsten_W>and modules
11:57<Torsten_W>the kernel was not installed propper
11:57<Class>do you guys recommend me to upgrade from lenny to squezee ?
11:57<Torsten_W>so rinstall the kernel
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11:58<jhutchins>Torsten_W: He already has 2.6-amd64
11:58<r4co0n>Torsten_W, how to do that?! sry for my ignorance
11:59<Torsten_W>jhutchins, then dpkg -l | grep linux-image had dhow this
11:59<jhutchins>Class: squeeze is not an upgrade, it is an experiment.
11:59<jhutchins>,kernels
11:59<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.36-trunk-686 (2.6.36-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-27); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-27); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-26~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-25lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
11:59<jhutchins>Torsten_W: His apt probably thinks he's still on lenny.
11:59<Class>jhujhiti, http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-upgrade-from-debian-lenny-to-squeeze
11:59<Torsten_W>jhutchins, dpkg don't lie
11:59<jhutchins>,kernels -arch amd64
11:59<judd>(kernels [--release <lenny>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases.
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11:59<Torsten_W>and dpkg don'Ät think
11:59<jhutchins>,kernels --arch amd64
11:59<judd>(kernels [--release <lenny>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases.
12:00<jhutchins>bah.
12:00<Torsten_W>r4co0n, apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
12:00<jhutchins>Class: I repeat, it's not an upgrade, it's an experiment. There are several things that very much don't work.
12:00<Class>ok
12:01<jhutchins>Class: What I did was install it as a dual-boot option so I could see if the bugs affected me (they did).
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12:01<Class>jhutchins, as i heard it runs faster than lenny is it true ?
12:02<r4co0n>sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
12:02<r4co0n>Reading package lists... Done
12:02<r4co0n>Building dependency tree
12:02<r4co0n>Reading state information... Done
12:02<r4co0n>The following extra packages will be installed:
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12:02<r4co0n>sry for flood
12:02<jhutchins>Class: Not significantly. On SOME hardware it may boot faster.
12:03<jhutchins>Class: Since you can run the same kernel on lenny, performance differences are not going to be noticible.
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12:06<raul>Hy agaian everyone how can I check if one variable containing a certain string has any blank space? i.e par="name surname_code"; $par is what I would like to check if it has blanck spaces (in that case it has)
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12:09<raul>mmm please?
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12:12<raul>Well I found out by myself if it could serve for anyone there it is echo ${a}| egrep -q "[[:space:]]"; if [[ $? = 0 ]]; then echo blank found; fi; done
12:12<r4co0n>Torsten_W, thanks for this great support, im running the new kernel now and this time it really resolved my problem of k3b not detecting my dvd-burner.
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12:31<Bleupomme>hello I get some signature errors when using apt-cacher-ng. Could anyone help me?
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12:43<jhutchins>Guess not.
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13:39<bja>,versions postgresql
13:39<judd>Package postgresql on i386 -- etch: 7.5.22; etch-backports: 8.3.9-0lenny1~bpo40+1; lenny: 8.3.11-0lenny1; lenny-security: 8.3.12-0lenny1; squeeze: 8.4.5-0squeeze1; lenny-backports: 8.4.5-1~bpo50+1; sid: 8.4.5-1; sid: 9.0.1-1
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13:40<bja>which one is in sid 8.4 and 9.0 ?
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13:42<retrospectacus>bja: yes both
13:43<bja>retrospectacus: thx
13:43<retrospectacus>bja: http://paste.debian.net/99316/
13:44<retrospectacus>so if you have a <tum> like me you could apt-get -t sid install postgresql-8.4 or postgresql-9.0
13:45<secondhand>Could someone explane to me why is command doesn't just rsync the folders created in the time stamp specifed by rsyncs the whole directory http://pastebin.com/aErqscJh
13:47*bja is tempted to put his development machine on sid
13:47<secondhand>*but
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13:51<bja>secondhand: add an extra v to your one liner so rsync tells you what is going on
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13:52<mercutio32>weird I am using transmission fot BT and I am limiting the bandwidth it can use to 10% of my connection bandwidth but even so I cannot surf the web when its on
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13:53<retrospectacus>mercutio32: you may want to limit the number of active connections it opens - some ISPs throttle this as well
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13:54<mercutio32>weird I am using transmission fot BT and I am limiting the bandwidth it can use to 10% of my connection bandwidth but even so I cannot surf the web when its on 500 connections overall, 100 per torrent
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13:55<mercutio32>ops
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13:55<mercutio32>retrospectacus: I mistakenly pasted the previous question... what number should I try?
13:56<bja>mercutio32: try half and see what happens
13:56<shiznatix>Hi. I have a bunch of .ogg music files. When I try to open one or many by double click/hit enter, I get an error "can not display FILE_NAME". Then, I have to right click on the file(s) and then right click -> open with -> movie player. How can I just make it open up on the first try like .mp3 files do?
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13:57<mercutio32>bja: alright... 1/4 and now I can surf again =]
13:57<bja>!next
13:57<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
13:57<mercutio32>thanks!!
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14:00<secondhand>bja: could it because the first result from find is '.'
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14:02<bja>secondhand: Really no idea. It looks more like a $SHELL dependent question.
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14:13<retrospectacus>secondhand: yes if find finds "." it will rsync that and that is everything... I would try and make find go for a depth = exactly 1 somehow
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14:43<shiznatix>Hi. I have a bunch of .ogg music files. When I try to open one or many by double click/hit enter, I get an error "can not display FILE_NAME". Then, I have to right click on the file(s) and then right click -> open with -> movie player. How can I just make it open up on the first try like .mp3 files do?
14:43<Koks>hi2all! How connect to ubuntu russian upport chat?
14:44<Koks>*support
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14:47<SloVer>hiii
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14:48<iMatter>hi :)
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14:48<iMatter>I have an easy, dumb question :/
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14:50<iMatter>anyone here?
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14:58<mase>.
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15:00<mase>shiznatix kde or gnome?
15:00<shiznatix>mase, Gnome
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15:00<mase>shiznatix sorry, no idea, but you can try at #debian-gnome
15:01<suku>hi
15:01<suku>is there any channel for the backtrack?
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15:02<Torsten_W>!backtrack
15:02<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
15:05<suku>no use..!thank you for the responce
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15:46<zedboy>WTH am I missing here? I've deleted the password field in both /etc/shadow and /etc/shadow- (by mounting the root drive in another machine), but i still can't login as root...
15:46<zedboy>heh nevermind
15:47<zedboy>su doesn't work, console does :)
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16:18<Freestyl3R>lalal
16:18<Freestyl3R>odveci
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16:39<bremner>is there anyway to get thermal info from a running squeeze install?
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16:42<retrospectacus>bremner: look around in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
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16:42<retrospectacus>bremner: although, I have squeeze and there's nothing in there
16:43<bremner>yeah, it looks empty on mine too. /sys/class/thermal is empty too.
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17:59<bja>bremner: acpid
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18:08<bremner>bja: during the install?
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18:11<crazyb0y>i have a problem with mysql-server while dist-upgrade/safe-upgrade on squeeze --> http://pastebin.com/yuXbDCGa
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18:16<qq->uname -r ?
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18:18<abrotman>crazyb0y: did you try aptitude update first ?
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18:23<bja>bremner: well it comes with the laptop options
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19:30<Escrapi>i'm new on debian, i would like talk here
19:30<Escrapi>about linux questions
19:30<Escrapi>tomorrow
19:30<Escrapi>see u!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
19:30<Escrapi>no droides and bots please
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19:38<prahal__>does anybody have issue with suspending to ram more than once ? I nailed down this issue on my box to CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP which is not in 2.632 but at least in experimental kernel 2.6.36
19:40<prahal__>from the traces I get it looks like it should affect any boxes (on second suspend attempt) though feedbacks would help sort out if this is so
19:41<prahal__>as it may be that the issue only appear because I actively using cgroups (ie systemd instead of initscripts)
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19:52<diego>hello to all
19:53<diego>is there somebody speaking spanish?
19:53<petemc>!es
19:53<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
19:55<diego>sorry .. thanks for the data
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20:04<EmleyMoor>How can I restart my sound card without rebooting the whole machine? (it's ALSA-supported)
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20:10<nevyn>EmleyMoor: you could unload and re-load the module for it.
20:10<nevyn>but it's probably safer to reboot.
20:10<nevyn>EmleyMoor: depends what's wrong with it?
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20:11<EmleyMoor>nevyn: Analog playback device "jammed" seems to be the best description. Anyway, alsactl init 0 seems to work
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20:13<EmleyMoor>(it was the cause of my audacity trouble yesterday)
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21:56<media>Hi, using Debian Lenny here. I don't have a /etc/apt/preferences file, yet I have to specify '-t lenny-backports' to install from backports. Is there a way to solve this?
21:57<media>Oh, or is this the intended behaviour?
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21:59<jordanm>thats intended behavior, but you should create one so that the ones you install are automatically updated
21:59<jordanm>pin to 200
22:00<kmap>!tell media about bpo pinning
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22:24<media>jordanm: kmap: Thanks, I thought they meant 'file must exist' when they said 'open the /etc/apt/preferences file' (on the backports page). I didn't know apt had any idea about backports outside of conf files.
22:24<media>s/backports/what backports is/
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22:29<jordanm>it knows what it is because of the Release.gz file you told it to download by adding it to your sources.list and running 'aptitude update"
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22:31<media>jordanm: But how does it know to treat it differently: i.e.: why doesn't it automatically receive upgrade from backports in the absence of a preferences file?
22:33<jordanm>media: because the release file contains NotAutomatic: yes, which automatically pins it 1
22:33<amdgoon>I am having a problem with apt-get refusing to install due to version issues. Please see http://pastebin.ca/1985958.
22:34<jordanm>apt and the release file only alter default pinning based on that field, so it either 500, or 1
22:34<amdgoon>Why is the version available not being installed?
22:34<jordanm>man apt_preferences for more info on what that means
22:34<jordanm>amdgoon: looks like you are mixing releases or distros
22:35<jordanm>!why aptitude
22:35<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades (lenny->squeeze) apt-get is better though. Be careful.
22:35<jordanm>plus, apt-get is crap
22:35<amdgoon>hello jordanm
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22:36<amdgoon>well, all lines in source.list refer only to squeeze repos.
22:36<jordanm>huh
22:36<jordanm>!factinfo aptitude
22:36<dpkg>aptitude -- last modified at Thu Jul 16 23:54:35 2009 by themill!n=stuart@unaffiliated/themill; it has been requested 601 times, last by trumpen, 6d 6h 1m 32s ago.
22:37<jordanm>thats odd, I didn't think e17 was in squeeze
22:37<jordanm>,versions e17
22:37<judd>Package e17 on i386 -- sid: 0.16.999.49898-1
22:37<jordanm>oh look, its not :)
22:37<jordanm>it wasn't fit for release
22:38<jordanm>upstream does not consider it stable
22:38<amdgoon>ok, so that repo only has sid packages, and my adjusting the sources.list file to squeeze, sounds like the problem to me.
22:39<amdgoon>or am I off on that guess
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22:40<jordanm>amdgoon: that repo is not debian?
22:40<amdgoon>no, I don't think so, not sure
22:41<amdgoon>I did not know where to ask the question, here or on #e
22:41<amdgoon>packages.enlightenment.org is likely not debian, I believe
22:42<jordanm>then here is not the place
22:42<jordanm>we don't support other people's poor quality packages and repositories :)
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22:42<amdgoon>ok, my apologies
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22:43<amdgoon>mmm that ,versions e17 command you just typed, is that to the bot here?
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22:45<acu>I installed apache webserver in a debian squeeze - and everything is fine - however if I add two virtual hosts on the same machine - I can access their frontpage but the design is missing, also links to anything more than first page - gives me page not found - it is most probably something with rights - but I do not remember what to do - can anyone help
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22:46<kop>acu: The www-data group?
22:46<jordanm>amdgoon: its one of our bots, yes
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22:46<amdgoon>ok, handy thing. thanks for the assistance
22:47<jordanm>kop: have fun with that, I got those all days
22:47<jordanm>err all day at work
22:47<acu>what should I do with it - the websites are placed in /var/www and I gave www-data write access to the folder containing the websites
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22:48<kop>acu: Anything web accessable should be readable by the www-data group.
22:48<jordanm>acu: each vhost needs to have its own DocumentRoot, which should not be the same location
22:48<jordanm>otherwise, you just want ServerAlias in the same vhost
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22:49<acu>kop: now I see that my var has root as owner
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22:49<acu>should I change it to www-data ?
22:49<jordanm>if you want to break your entire system, sure
22:49<kop>acu: Nothing wrong with that. See the Permission page on the debian wiki.
22:49<kop>Permissions
22:49<jordanm>kop: erm
22:49<kop>jordanm: I mean, the way it is.
22:50<jordanm>kop: the way I interpretted that, is you told him it was safe to do chown www-data /var
22:50<kop>jordanm: Yeah. I'm not typing enough.
22:50<jordanm>ssh will be the first to break
22:51<kop>jordanm: He's also not reading the word "group".
22:51<jordanm>well, its a user and a group, either is fine
22:52<acu>jordanm: the vhosts have each own folders /var/www/mysite/content and they are also having each own entrance in etc/sites-available
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22:53<jordanm>acu: they need to be enabled (symlinked), with a2ensite
22:53<acu>jordanm did that
22:54<jordanm>ok, now what is the problem here?
22:54<kop>acu: There's always stupid browser caching issues....
22:54<jordanm>are these sites public?
22:54<acu>they are fine - is just that the design does not load - it loads plain site - and the links from inside tell me page not found
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22:59<acu>wait - I added added a config.php file in a moodle site - maybe that what it is screwed - the php - that is why the design does not come right - since there are smarty templates and others (of course mingled with css, javascript etc)
23:00<jordanm>acu: sounds like a problem with your application, not apache
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23:00<acu>weird enough - before enabling the sites - I used to access them by IP/website/index.php and it worked
23:01<acu>since I enabled the vhosts I got this problem - is weird - but I can disable the sites and see if I can go back and access it - if yes - it is something I am not doing right with vhosts
23:02<jordanm>are you using Rewrites?
23:04<media>jordanm: Thanks for the info on Pinning :)
23:04<jordanm>media: anytime :)
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23:05<jordanm>acu: a lot of applications like the will add RewriteCond to .htaccess that is specific to a domain name
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23:06<acu>jordanm: indeed - I have installed moodle and ezpublish - and both recomend creating .htaccess but I did not create it (as far as I remember)
23:07<acu>maybe during installation got screwed - I am preety certain something with my vhost configuration is not write
23:07<acu>right
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23:32<nitneiht>hi guys!
23:32<nitneiht>how to hibernate in backtrack 4
23:32<nitneiht>?
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23:33<nitneiht>any body here can help me?
23:33<gsimmons>nitneiht: BackTrack is not supported here, you would want #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net.
23:33<supplicant>!backtrack
23:33<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
23:35<nitneiht>gsimmons no channel like that
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23:35<supplicant>irc.freenode.org
23:36<supplicant>?
23:36<gsimmons>nitneiht: Not this network (OFTC), the one on freenode.
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