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---Logopened Thu Dec 02 00:00:10 2010
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00:15<rijo>anyone good with troubleshooting wireless, wpa_supplicant etc. ?
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00:40<dondelelcaro>rijo: best to ask your question
00:41<rijo>b43 driver is working, wpa_supplicant seems to be config'd right but i can scan for networks but not connect
00:41<rijo>tried wpa_gui, wicd and knetworkmanager and none work
00:42<rijo>exact same config worked under sidux but not sqeeze
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00:43<dondelelcaro>I personally only use wpa supplicant directly
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01:07<Ninj>can someone tell me where does mysql stores everything, on a debian?
01:09<dondelelcaro>Ninj: /var/lib/mysql by default
01:09<dondelelcaro>Ninj: but you can of course change it
01:10<Ninj>just found it in fact :) but does that mean that i can overwrite this dir with my backup one to get all my mysql DB as it was?
01:10<dondelelcaro>Ninj: presumably, yes
01:10<Ninj>ok, i try it, than you
01:11<dondelelcaro>(assuming the versions are the same, etc.)
01:11<Ninj>(i must really clean my key K)
01:11<Ninj>versions are not the same, but close, i give it a try
01:11<Ninj>what about the dir "mysql.cluster"?
01:13<Ninj>version mismatch im afraid :(
01:14<Ninj>Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!
01:14<Ninj>do i have a solution?
01:14<Ninj>like downgrading the mysql version?
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01:16<chealer>Ninj: probably
01:17<chealer>that is, you can probably downgrade mysql. I'm not saying it's easy to recover this way
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01:18<Ninj>ill try it then
01:18<Ninj>i had an etch version
01:18<Ninj>now i run lenny
01:18<Ninj>how to get back to this previous version?
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01:27<jm_>maybe it's best to install etch in a vm or chroot, get mysql running, then export the DB and import in new version - that's what we did here with postgresql
01:32<indu>hi, have installed the pipbox in plone 3, and added under pipbox properties the following line,
01:32<indu>{type:'overlay',subtype:'ajax',selector:'.arrowlistmenu a',urlmatch:'$',urlreplace:' #content >*'}
01:32<indu>on clickinng the link,, its opening the pop up but there is no content shown
01:32<indu>what could be the problem here
01:32<indu>coulld someone please help me out
01:33<Ninj>chealer, dondelelcaro, jm_, i also have a SQL dump.
01:33<Ninj>i guess it's a better idea then :)
01:34<Ninj>but i wonder about these tables: mysql, information_schema: should i load them too?
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01:41<dondelelcaro>Ninj: mysql has the information about users and permissions, so you probably want it
01:42<Ninj>but information_schema will be built automatically, isn't it?
01:42<dondelelcaro>I think so
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01:59<chealer>Ninj: an SQL dump would indeed be lots simpler
02:00<chealer>Ninj: I'm not sure what you (built automatically when), but in a way yes, usually it's MySQL itself that maintains this table
02:00<chealer>s/you/you mean/
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02:05<ku>hello...
02:05<ku>all
02:05<Ninj>chealer, i meant that, with all my databases stored in .sql files, i probably don't need to restore information_schema, just the other databases. or should i also load information_schema.sql?
02:05<Ninj>hi ku
02:06<ku>..is there somebody speak chinese??
02:06<dondelelcaro>ku: try #debian-zh
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02:06<ku>enen...thx dondelelcaro...
02:06<dondelelcaro>ku: np
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02:08<ku>but i wish i can ask you some thing too...in my stupid english.
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02:09<ku>i want to setup debian5 i386 in my computer(AMD 7750 ATI 3100)
02:10<ku>i test in vbox succ
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02:11<ku>but in my match...the x-window can not run up
02:11<jm_>ku: the driver in squeeze probably suppors this chipset
02:12<ku>hmmmm
02:14<ku>i think the ATI 3100 is the problem..would you like to tell me how can i do, have better to ?
02:16<ku>any config that i can try??
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02:21<jm_>try upgrading to squeeze
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02:23<chealer>Ninj: oh, sorry. no need to restore those, indeed
02:24<Ninj>thank you chealer :) one more thing: to get back all my users, is it enough to import the user table from mysql DB?
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02:26<dondelelcaro>Ninj: no
02:26<dondelelcaro>the other tables also have information which is important.
02:26<dondelelcaro>(tables, columns, and db)
02:27<Ninj>about users?
02:27<ku>jm_ u means update the match?(computer)
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02:27<dondelelcaro>21121012nN absolutely.
02:29<Ninj>oh ok, but if i try importing all the "mysql" DB, i get errors (duplicate entries and so on...)
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02:30<jm_>ku: yes, squeeze is the upcoming debian release
02:30<dondelelcaro>Ninj: that's because some of the users already exist, like the root and debiansysmaint users.
02:30<dondelelcaro>(iirc)
02:31<Ninj>what does this "iirc" mean? sry for the noob question :)
02:31<jm_>!iirc
02:31<dpkg>IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly"
02:31<Ninj>oh ok
02:31<Ninj>so, it's almost impossible to restore users from a backup
02:32<Ninj>is it?
02:32<Ninj>i would really need to restore them, since there are many, and privileges are complex
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02:35<chealer>Ninj: that could be complicated. better ask #mysql
02:35<Ninj>ok ur right
02:35<Ninj>thank you !
02:36<Ninj>erh, been alone there
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02:38<chealer>Ninj: #mysql on irc.freenode.net
02:39<Ninj>ah! sorry :)
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02:46<matteo_>buongiorno!
02:46<matteo_>!list
02:46<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
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02:48<ku>~~~
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03:34<pablo>hi
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03:35<pablo>ooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
03:35<pablo>hay alguien ay
03:35<pablo>ola
03:35<kenoby>!es
03:35<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
03:36<pablo>ola :P
03:36<kenoby>hi
03:36<pablo>kienes sois?
03:36<pablo>bye
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04:29<Jarlaxe>Hi everyone, I need a hand about ssh : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/ssh-rsa-key-changed-after-upgrade-112297/ here is my issue. I gonna edit ~/.ssh/known_hosts and delete the key. Problem is I have 4 or 5 RSA keys in here, i don't know how to identify them and delete the right one.
04:33<koollman>Jarlaxe: /home/user1/.ssh/known_hosts:2 -> second line
04:34<koollman>Jarlaxe: to delete it: sed -i 2d /home/user1/.ssh/known_hosts
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04:36<cahoot>what's the worst that could happen if you removed the file ?
04:36<koollman>having to say 'yes' 4 or 5 times, perhaps missing the hacking of another server in the meantime
04:36<Jarlaxe>koolman: my own msg is Offending key in /home/~/.ssh/known_hosts:1 so i suppose to do "sed -i 2d /home/~/.ssh/known_hosts" correct ? In fact the msg says me the line to edit isn't it ?
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04:37<koollman>Jarlaxe: 1d , not 2d. and, yes, after the : there's the line number
04:37<koollman>(you can also open the file, remove the line indicated. I prefer sed :) )
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04:38<Jarlaxe>koolman: thank you very much ! I keep the sed line and try both (sed version and delete/comment)
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04:39<nutxase>hey all
04:40<nutxase>anyone know a kernel version that supports ipv6?
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04:41<andrew_>hey all
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04:41<Jarlaxe>koollman: sed works ! thanks ;-)
04:43<andrew_>anyone got ipv6 working on debian?
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04:56<danielsh>I'd like to follow stable, with select packages from backports. To do that, I set APT::Default-Release=stable and added "Pin: release=%s" for stable at 500, lenny-backports at 300, and testing at 50. Does that do what I want?
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05:08<jm_>you don't need to do any of that - packages from backports have lower priorty
05:08<jm_>(by default)
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05:10<danielsh>until now I didn't have a /etc/apt/preferences file
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05:11<danielsh>now, I installed packages from backports
05:11<danielsh>e.g., sqlite3,
05:11<danielsh>and aptitude wants to upgrade the backports package to the testing package
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05:12<danielsh>I added the pins in attempt to make aptitude not want to upgrade backports->testing
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05:40<pkrzywicki_>hi guys
05:40<pkrzywicki_>have a small problem with my wifi settings
05:40<pkrzywicki_>for some reason I cannot make kismet to work
05:40<pkrzywicki_>on my laptop
05:40<pkrzywicki_>lenovo t400
05:41<pkrzywicki_>network card Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5300
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05:41<pkrzywicki_>any ideas what I should put as enablesource
05:41<pkrzywicki_>or source itself
05:41<pkrzywicki_>thx in advance
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06:04<Kensan>Hi
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06:04<Kensan>Can somebody give me a pointer on how to sign debian packages after build (e.g. on a different machine)?
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06:10<babilen>Kensan: debsign
06:10<Kensan>babilen: so I unpack a deb with ar call debsign and repack with ar?
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06:13<dba>Kensan: read man debsign.
06:14<dba>no repackging of packages, just signing changes and/or dsc.
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06:18<Kensan>ok thanks
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06:40<Alias>a
06:40<Alias>olaa
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06:42<Aouta>hello
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06:42<Aouta>ça parle français içi ?
06:42<jm_>!fr
06:42<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
06:43<Aouta>thanks brother ;)
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07:12<Hydroxide>and now you're doing something equally sane, probably, like lunch
07:12<Hydroxide>wrong window, obviously :)
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07:12<babilen>But you are right. Having lunch would be a sane thing to do right now :)
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07:13<Hydroxide>babilen: not for me in my time zone - though it would be for the person I meant to address that to :)
07:14<Hydroxide>babilen: which, judging by your /whois, is also your time zone :)
07:14<nifelan_laptop>hi. I have a little bit of a problem with my debian router box. The router is configured to route two public IP subnets and uses a different subnet for the actual internet connection/routing to the internet. The problem is: the connection network itself has no internet access (ergo all traffic from my router itself isn't routed to the internet). any ideas how I can get internet access with the
07:14<nifelan_laptop>router itself? (for updates etc)
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07:50<zy>My postfix starts later than network-manager, and thus failed (in squeeze). How to fix ?
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07:56<dentifrice>hey there - how can I load specific components of the debian-installer within the installer?
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08:02<Crack>?
08:02<antroid>zzz
08:03<Crack>ñañañañaña
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08:44<Aouta>vous pouvez m envoyer sur debian fr siouplait ?
08:44<@Ganneff>!fr
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08:50<jivan>hi all, I just downloaded and installed squeeze on my machine, I also successfully was able to mount the DVD in /etc/fstab as following :-
08:51<jivan>/home/jivan/Downloads/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso /media/fakemedia00/ udf,iso9660 loop
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08:51<jivan>I put this entry in /etc/fstab and restarted the machine, the .iso was mounted perfectly.
08:52<jivan>now I'm trying to use sources.list to use this mounted disc.
08:53<jivan>gave deb file:/media/fakemedia00 squeeze contrib main
08:53<jivan>in sources.list and restarted the machine.
08:53<jivan>nothing gives. what should I do?
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08:54<jm_>jibel: man apt-cdrom
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08:56<jm_>jibel: sorry wrong nick
08:56<jm_>jivan: man apt-cdrom
08:57<jivan>jm_: I did try that apt-cdrom and did try the man but it just went over my head.
08:57<jm_>jivan: run 'apt-cdrom add'
08:57<jivan>jm_: the man is not written for normal people like me.
08:57<jivan>jm_: I ran that, it tries to seek if there is something in cdrom
08:57<babilen>jivan: You are sure that you want to use the DVD and not one of the internet mirrors?
08:58<babilen>jivan: Yes, put the DVD in the drive
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08:58<jivan>babilen: the idea of using the .iso and mounting it is so that I don't need to use the DVD media.
08:59<jm_>jivan: tell it where to find it, i.e. -d switch
08:59<jivan>jm_: I'm on very limited bandwidth atm, it would take me about a week or more to get access to broadband.
08:59<jm_>possibly with -m too
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08:59<jivan>jm_: I tried $sudo apt-cdrom add -d /media/fakemedia00/ as well as $sudo apt-cdrom add -a /media/fakemedia00/ neither worked :(
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09:02<jm_>jivan: try using -m too, but I have to run now, sorry - otherwise I could try this here
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09:02<jivan>thanx anyway jm_
09:03<Dominus>Ohai. I have a question: Do you know any application or way to create your own Internet Radio station, where you can play music and also talk, like a real radio host? Thanks for your time :-)
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09:11<cahoot>Dominus: http://radio.about.com/od/createinternetradio/a/How-to-Create-Your-Own-Internet-Radio-Station_3.htm
09:12<Dominus>Thank you very much, cahoot :)
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09:13<Dominus>Can you recommend any of them over the others? Or don't you have that much knowledge in internet radio software? :)
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09:19<cahoot>just handed over the first google hit
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10:35<saad>hello everybody
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10:40<bremner>saad: don't PM random people, it makes most people grumpy
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10:41<saad>ok sir
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10:44<bremner>that was not an invitation to send me more private messages.
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10:46<saad>i see lot of people but no body talk!
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11:02<Martita>olaaaa
11:02<Martita>kk pasaaa
11:02<f0rk>!es
11:02<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
11:02<f0rk>!es-social
11:02<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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11:04<sdk>Quick question. How do I set my default tty colors to green/black if I log in w/ no X? PS1 only seems to affect the actual prompt. I want ALL foreground txt to be green by default.
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11:04<sdk>Or am I misunerstanding what I'm reading?
11:05<babilen>sdk: You can export PS1 in your bashrc/profile or am I misunderstanding you?
11:07<sdk>babilen: Not sure.. I have decided to go w/o X for some time to regain and enhance my comfort w/ CLI. I've been clicking around alot recently. However, I really dig having an all green/black term in X. I want to have the same in the TTY, no emulation..
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11:09<sdk>I want to force myself to learn more about the CLI, particularly vi. If I just use X with rxvt, it'll be too convenient to resort to X, grok? So I'm ditching X altogether.
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11:10*sdk is a bit of a masochist. Taught himself how to swim by jumping into deep end of pool.
11:10<babilen>sdk: How do you achieve that right now? All I am saying is that you can include "PS1=whatever" in your ~/.basrc and it will be executed for all interactive shells
11:10<rpetre>babilen: he wants the tty colors changed, not just the prompt
11:10<babilen>Ah!
11:11<babilen>yes
11:11<babilen>rpetre: It dawned upon me in the second you posted your remark
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11:13<babilen>sdk: Try: "setterm -background black -foreground green"
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11:14<sdk>babilen: Beauty, will try, thanks!
11:15<babilen>sdk: I just tried it and it does not work.
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11:20<babilen>sdk: You apparently need -store as well ... but this just affects the current tty
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11:24<OddTod>hey guys i have a Tape drive and was looking to start writing archival data to it. What do i need to backup directories and such?
11:24<weasel>tar?
11:25<sney>indeed, it's what tar stands for
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11:27<OddTod>i always thought tar was just like a pimp zip.
11:27<OddTod>weasel: thanks for the help
11:27<OddTod>sney: thanks for the help.
11:28<sney>it is that too
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11:28<sney>but it was created as Tape ARchive
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11:29<linda>oi tem alguem qe qer falar em portuges
11:30<linda>hhh
11:30<qq->!br
11:30<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
11:30<linda>ok ojug dxtrs tc
11:31<linda>//?/
11:31<linda>oi vc sabe falar em portuguees
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11:32<sney>!pt
11:32<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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11:44<safinaskar>i use aptitude. manually installed packages is packages that i installed by command "aptitude install". but why if i type command "aptitude search '~i' | grep '^i '" then i will see large list of packages?
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11:44<gcs_>Hi! I've a license question. Can an LGPL source link with OpenSSL without its license exception?
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11:47<babilen>safinaskar: If you want to restrict this list to *not* automatically installed packages, you'll have to augment the search terms. Use aptitude search '~i\!~M' or aptitude search '?installed?not(?automatic)'
11:47<peterS>gcs_: LGPL 2 or 3? I think they both allow this, but the difference may be important
11:48<gcs_>peterS: LGPL 2.1 .
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11:49<peterS>safinaskar: the default install misses quite a lot of 'A' flags. I sometimes set them manually, using aptitude's full-screen mode (the 'm' and 'M' keys), mainly because I'm anal like that
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11:49<Aouta>salon français svp
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11:49<sney>!fr
11:49<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
11:49<Aouta>thanks
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11:50<safinaskar>babilen, aptitude search '~i\!~M' does not work. aptitude search '?installed?not(?automatic)' gives me large list too
11:50<gcs_>Debian-Legal says it's permitted: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/06/msg00007.html
11:51<babilen>safinaskar: Ah right ... (the \ was wrong in there) but both commands are just more/less verbose versions of the same search terms. What is wrong with the large list you are getting?
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11:52<safinaskar>peterS, i now about default install. but one day i cleaned all "optional" packages: i mark they all "auto" but ten packages. but now many optional manually packages appeared again
11:53<safinaskar>babilen, i did not install this packages manually
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11:53<peterS>safinaskar: don't know how they would get in that state, if you always use aptitude
11:54<babilen>safinaskar: You did install them somehow (maybe tasksel during the installation?) ... after all they are *not* marked as being automatically installed.
11:54<safinaskar>babilen, peterS, for example, i installed only 3 tex-packages: texlive, texlive-lang-cyrillic and texlive-metapost, but this list content about 20 tex-packages
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11:55<babilen>safinaskar: And if you run "aptitude show PKG" it says "Automatically installed: no" for them?
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11:57<safinaskar>babilen, yes
11:57<peterS>babilen: that's what he was doing with 'aptitude search'. It shows the A flag in the search index.
11:57<babilen>yes, sure
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11:58<safinaskar>babilen, and what?? i did not install texlive-pstricks (for example), but it says me: Automatically installed: no. why?
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11:59<babilen>safinaskar: Well, they are regarded as not being automatically installed. I can't tell you how you arrived at this point, but you *must* have installed it somehow. You might want to review aptitude and dpkg's log files, auth.log and roots history
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11:59<kop>safinaskar: Note also that apt now installed recommended packages by default. See the -R flag for aptitude.
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11:59<user>http://www.mexico.spmgame.com/partner.php?ID=268787
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12:00<babilen>kop: those would be marked as automatically installed.
12:00<babilen>safinaskar: How old is that system?
12:01<kop>!ops Someone (user, now Guest1378) is posting urls, repeatedly. (Which I have not followed.)
12:01<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: kop complains about: Someone (user, now Guest1378) is posting urls, repeatedly. (Which I have not followed.)
12:01<Guest1378>http://www.mexico.spmgame.com/partner.php?ID=268787
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12:02<Myon>murisfurder, rockstar: you might want to fix your client not to choke on "/mode +q"
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12:07<aquila>ciao
12:08<murisfurder>Myon yeah that, or you might want to shut up about me using a bouncer and that i restarted the daemon
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12:09<Myon>murisfurder: more questions?
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12:10<aquila>buona sera
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12:14<kop>!br
12:14<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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12:18<safinaskar>!ru
12:18<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
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12:30<medo4ever>mm,
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12:32<marko>Hallo zusammen,
12:32<marko>kann mir jemand mit einem Problem mit einem mysql-Server helfen?
12:33<bremner>!de
12:33<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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12:37<babilen>marko: Or speak English in here ;)
12:37<babilen>marko: You might also want to consider asking in #mysql on irc.freenode.net if the problem is not Debian related
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12:39<bremner>it's true. The german version of that snippet is technically friendlier. You don't have to leave just because you speak German :)
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12:40<marko>I´ll try to solve it on debian.de, if I don't get success I will ask here again :)
12:45<babilen>marko: Good luck :)
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12:49<marko>thx
12:49<marko>qube:/var/run/mysqld# /etc/init.d/mysql stop
12:49<marko>Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed!
12:49<marko>qube:/var/run/mysqld# /etc/init.d/mysql start
12:49<marko>Starting MySQL database server: mysqld already running.
12:49<marko>qube:/var/run/mysqld# /usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping
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12:50<marko>Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed!
12:50<marko>qube:/var/run/mysqld# /etc/init.d/mysql start
12:50<marko>Starting MySQL database server: mysqld already running.
12:50<marko>qube:/var/run/mysqld# /usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping
12:50-!-marko was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste]
12:50<babilen>*sigh*
12:50<qq->!paste
12:50<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>.
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12:50<babilen>qq-: he's not yet back
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12:50<qq->*sigh*
12:51<babilen>marko: http://paste.debian.net -- but you don't need to paste it again. We've got the idea.
12:52<babilen>marko: You might want to add "set -x" in the second line of /etc/init.d/mysql so we can see when and where the error occurs (just after the shebang / set -e line)
12:52<babilen>marko: Run /etc/init.d/mysql stop again and paste the output
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12:53<marko>http://debianforum.de/forum/pastebin.php?mode=view&s=35150
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12:54<babilen>marko: So it checks for the existence of the PID file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid -- could you *move* that out of the way and try again?
12:54<babilen>marko: or wait ...
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12:55<marko>this file is not existing :(
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12:57<babilen>marko: What happens if you try to start it?
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12:58<marko>babilen: I got an Starting MySQL database server: mysqld already running.
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12:58<marko>Seems like a bug?
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13:03<marko>No idea here?
13:04<babilen>marko: Be patient ...;)
13:04<marko>thx a lot
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13:07<babilen>marko: Does "pgrep mysqld" return a PID?
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13:07<babilen>babilen: Hei, I'll have to leave. I can't really figure out why the "ping" succeeds, but you might want to try to kill the server yourself. The script executes "killall -15 mysqld" which would kill the server.
13:09<marko>The console says then mysqld: Kein Prozess abgebrochen
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13:09<babilen>marko: What is the result of "echo $?" after executing "/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping" -- what about "echo $r" ?
13:10<marko>prep gibt leider auch keine ID
13:10<babilen>marko: english ;) (but don't worry I understand German)
13:10<marko>babilen: this gives no details,
13:11<babilen>marko: That means that no mysqld is running ..
13:11<babilen>marko: Both?
13:11<marko>Yes, the echo $r gives no error, but no details
13:12<babilen>and "echo $?" ? (after running the bla bla bla ping)
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13:14<marko>http://paste.debian.net/101337
13:15<babilen>marko: hehe
13:15<marko>:)
13:15<marko>I´m learning how to chat here
13:16<babilen>marko: Try: "echo $?" after executing: /usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping ; echo $r
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13:16<babilen>grmml, i'll have to leave now
13:16<babilen>sorry .. i would take it to #mysql
13:16<babilen>or #debian over at irc.freenode.net
13:16<marko>thx a lot and a good evening
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13:23<marko>Does any other my help me on my mysql problem
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13:28<retrospectacus>marko, can you explain your problem again? I missed the first 80%
13:28<retrospectacus>!ask
13:28<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
13:29<marko>retrospectacus.
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13:30<marko>I´m running Lenny on a MIPS-Port an try to get mysql running. Lenny thinks it always runs, so an /etc/init.d/mysql restart gives an failed on stopping it and an "already running" on start. the .pid ist not existing
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13:35<retrospectacus>marko: have you made a paste of /etc/init.d/mysql start and mysqladmin ping
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13:36<retrospectacus>oh I see you're in #mysql, I'll watch there :)
13:36<marko>mysql start says that the server ist already running. but I´ll make a paste
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13:39<marko>ist=is
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13:45<retrospectacus>marko: please look closely at this command you have
13:45<retrospectacus> /usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping" -- what about "echo $r
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13:46<retrospectacus>it looks ok up until ping then has a lot of garbage after
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13:47<marko>retrospectacus: http://paste.debian.net/101343
13:48<retrospectacus>that's what I'm talking about - line 12
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13:50<yoshio>marko: if I do "sudo /usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping", I get "mysqld is alive" as output
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13:53<yoshio>marko: type /usr/sbin/mysqld --print-defaults # look at the pid, and do ps -ef and see if a mysql process is there
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13:56<marko>yoshio: http://paste.debian.net/101345 (the last lines)
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13:57<yoshio>marko: do a "netstat -punta |grep LIST" -- is something listening on port 3306?
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14:00<marko>yoshio: nothing is listening there
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14:02<retrospectacus>marko: what did "mysqladmin ping" say
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14:06<retrospectacus>marko: can you just paste the entire file /etc/init.d/mysql
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14:07<retrospectacus>marko: obviously it is not running, you can run it with "mysqld_safe" ok, but the init script fails
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14:15<marko>retospectacus: http://paste.debian.net/101349 is the init
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14:18<retrospectacus>marko: what did "mysqladmin ping" say
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14:19<marko>It says nothing :/
14:19<marko>With mysqld_safe --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf it runs
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14:19<sim6>Hi, You know a tool that show the bandwidth used by the process, top style?
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14:20<retrospectacus>marko: please run: /usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping
14:20<retrospectacus>marko: then run: echo $?
14:21<retrospectacus>and tell us the outputs
14:21<marko>The answer ist 0
14:21<retrospectacus>sim6: atop
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14:24<retrospectacus>marko: /usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping --> outputs *nothing*?
14:24<marko>yes
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14:25<sim6>retrospectacus: tanks, but it needs a pached linux, you know other?
14:25<retrospectacus>it must be broken - I cannot get mine to output nothing in any situation
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14:29<_irssi>!ubunto
14:29<dpkg>it has been said that ubunto is http://www.erisian.com.au/wordpress/2005/06/07/on-ubuntu, or an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'.
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14:33<retrospectacus>sim6: check out iptraf, cacti, or ntop
14:33<sim6>I found nethogs
14:33<sim6>thanks
14:34<retrospectacus>also monit
14:34<retrospectacus>iftop
14:34<retrospectacus>:D
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14:37<Sary>this is ood , my External Usb is plugged in .. i can see tht it's mounted , i open it with Dolphin , but there is no storage files . empty!
14:38<retrospectacus>marko: we can probably hack the init script to work for you.
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14:38<marko>that would be great. but how? :)
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14:38<marko>retrospectacus: that would be great. but how? :)
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14:41<retrospectacus>marko: on line 75 we need a different way to "ping" mysql since mysqladmin ping is not functioning
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14:48<marko>retrospectacus: is a ping to localhost:3306 possible?
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14:51<retrospectacus>marko: I'm going to go with: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -e ''
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14:53<collette>hi, I'd like to learn how to change the default screensize of my lenny install. My monitor can't handle the current default resolution so my login screen is garbled. I'd like my login screen to be at 1024x768
14:53<collette>I'vew got the gnome configuration editor open but I can't discern which setting to adjust
14:53<retrospectacus>marko: running this seems to be a reasonable replacement - it won't output anything on success but it will set $? appropriately
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14:55<marko>restrospectacus: When I use this there is not output. echo $? gives a 0
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14:55<retrospectacus>marko: so on line 75 replace "$MYADMIN ping" with "mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -e ''"
14:56<retrospectacus>marko: that means it successfully connected to mysql server and ran the command ""
14:56<marko>Thx. I´ll try it
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14:58<obengdako>hi anyone got the encore electronics ENUTV-2 tv box to work in linux, it doesn't even show up in lsusb and i don't get how to detect it to even pass it to virtualbox, is there a way i can attach the usb bus directly to virtualbox so that it doesn't even handle the device but just attaches the usb port instead to virtualbox
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15:05<ComradeHaz`>Evening all. I would like to use my debian home server to provide network bootable operating systems to my other machines of differing OS's. Namely windows and ubuntu machines. Can anyone point me in the right direction for what I need to be looking into in order to achieve this?
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15:06<collette>Can someone help me adjust my default monitor resolution? I'm new to linux and my login screen is garbled.
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15:07<ComradeHaz`>collette: what desktop environment?
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15:07<collette>I'm using gnome
15:07<collette>screen resolution is ok after I log in.
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15:08<ComradeHaz`>Ahh. YEs, I have that issue too. I ignore it :D
15:08<collette>ComradeHaz, is that your advice then?
15:08<ComradeHaz`>Let me know if you figure out how to fix it! :D
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15:08<collette>:)
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15:09<ComradeHaz`>It's not really advice, is it?! More a confession of my own ineptitude.
15:09<collette>I know, don't worry!
15:10<ComradeHaz`>Someone may come along and tell us! (It'll more than likely be tweeking the xorg.conf file)
15:10<retrospectacus>collette, you can setup automatic login under System - Administration - Login Window - Security tab
15:10<retrospectacus>there may be some other useful options in there too
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15:10<ComradeHaz`>lol, epic workaround :D
15:11<ComradeHaz`>I am proud of you retrospectacus :D
15:11<collette>thank you!
15:11<retrospectacus>enjoy :P
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15:16<yoshio>collette, ComradeHaz` in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which is probably empty, at least on squeeze), you just need a section like: SubSection "Display", modes "1024x768", EndSubSction - http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html
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15:17<retrospectacus>does anyone know how to configure window properties like width, height, x, y, always on top, on all workspaces... by command line arguments when starting the program ?
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15:18<ComradeHaz`>hmm, retrospectacus, I'm not entirely sure that'd be possible.
15:18<yoshio>retrospectacus, like "xclock -geometry 48x48-0+0" ? Try "man X"
15:18<ComradeHaz`>Certainly not by passing arguments to the program
15:18<ComradeHaz`>you'd have to somehow pass them to the window manager
15:19<ComradeHaz`>Ahh :)
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15:21<retrospectacus>thanks yoshi!! I'm looking for "on all workspaces" in particular
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15:23<marko>restrospectacus: your are great. it runs. I cant restart it, because gets an error on stopping, but its running
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15:24<yoshio>retrospectacus, I guess that is more a gnome or kde thing
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15:25<retrospectacus>marko: cool, what is the errors?
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15:26<retrospectacus>yoshio, thanks, I'm looking at devilspie
15:26<marko>This: Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed! and Starting MySQL database server: mysqld already runn
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15:30<retrospectacus>marko: I would try commenting out line 140, that is "shutdown_out=`$MYADMIN shutdown 2>&1`; r=$?" (put a # on the start of the line )
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15:30<retrospectacus>since we know $MYADMIN is not functioning well for you
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15:32<retrospectacus>actually we still need something in $r; I would set it to 1 like: r=1
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15:33<marko>so not commenting out, but change $r in r=1
15:33<marko>?
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15:33<retrospectacus>marko: you could replace "$MYADMIN shutdown" on line 140 with "false"
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15:34<retrospectacus>marko: the problem is $MYADMIN shutdown is "succeeding" - returning true - even though it does nothing.
15:36<retrospectacus>hacking the file to run "false" instead of "$MYADMIN shutdown" will force the logic to take the path where the shutdown failed
15:39<marko>So i replace $MYADMIN shutdown with false and r=$? with r=1?
15:39<retrospectacus>one or the other replacement is sufficient.
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15:45<yoshio>retrospectacus, there is also the package wmctrl
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15:46<Nunca_Enchando>What was Ganneff's problem yesterday?
15:47<retrospectacus>Nunca_Enchando: I give up, what was it?
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15:51<yusuo>hi how do i move files over ssh
15:51<petemc>scp
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15:53<yusuo>basically im logged into my home pc and wanna grab a picture off it and put it on my laptop
15:53<yusuo>im on the home pc now in the correct folder
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15:53<retrospectacus>yusuo: scp
15:53<yusuo>i wanna move it to my local home folder
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15:54<yusuo>i dont quite understand what to do
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15:54<yoshio>yusuo, scp -p sourcehostname:filename.pg desthostname
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16:07<rudi_s>And -r if you want to copy complete directories.
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16:11<raph_ael_>hi, i've installed debian lenny upgraded to sid on a g4 cube with usb soundcard/speakers, at install everything works but i had to reboot without it after and then rebooted again with and alsa doesn't find mixer and anything related to the soundcard then
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16:13<_irssi>!tell raph_ael_ about alsa checklist
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16:14<dakota>Hello, I am having a problem compiling libmobiledevice under squeeze x86_64
16:15<dakota>I have error messages to post aswell
16:15<raph_ael_>_irssi: bot ?
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16:16<_irssi>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse)
16:17<raph_ael_>:)
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16:17<dakota>Anyone?
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16:17<raph_ael_>well alsa complains about "cannot find card '0'"
16:17<dakota>I cant compile the program I need..
16:17<raph_ael_>dakota: no error log, no answers ;)
16:17<jhutchins_lt>!tell dakota about paste
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16:18<jhutchins_lt>raph_ael_: sid isn't supposed to be a working release. It's a staging area for new software.
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16:19<raph_ael_>jhutchins_lt: i use sid for years now without much problems
16:19<jhutchins_lt>Then why are you asking us about your sound?
16:20<raph_ael_>maybe because i don't have the answer and that it does the same with lenny ?
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16:22<dakota_>Here's a pastebin of the compile error.... http://pastebin.com/3gpSccqN
16:22<mib_mdod9o>Hello
16:22<mib_mdod9o>please why there is no pypanel package in squeeze, when it is in lenny?
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16:24<raph_ael_>dakota: libtool: install: `_imobiledevice.la' is not a valid libtool archive libtool: install: Try `libtool --help --mode=install' for more information.
16:24<themill>,versions pypanel
16:24<judd>Package pypanel on i386 -- etch: 2.4-1.1
16:24<themill>mib_mdod9o: ^^ it's not in lenny either, actually.
16:24<streuner_>forget pypanel, its just crap
16:24<mib_mdod9o>why crap
16:25<mib_mdod9o>what to place on openbox instead?
16:25<streuner_>well, just GNOME/KDE?
16:25<mib_mdod9o>forget Gnome/KDE, now I am trying separate panel
16:25<dakota_>Could someone look at this please? It's really frustrating. http://pastebin.com/3gpSccqN
16:25<mib_mdod9o>I can install Gnome/KDE anytime
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16:26<raph_ael_>mib_mdod9o: i see fbpanel or fspanel or even perlpanel
16:26<mib_mdod9o>I can try
16:26<mib_mdod9o>but pypanel is most beutiful
16:26<mib_mdod9o>beautiful
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16:28<raph_ael_>mib_mdod9o: maybe it's abandonned
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16:29<mib_mdod9o>PyPanel is © 2003-2005 by Jon Gelo
16:29<mib_mdod9o>ah probably
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16:29<raph_ael_>dakota_: did you try libtool --help --mode=install ?
16:29<yusuo>does anyone know where chrome saves its files to in linux i want to migrate my saved passwords from my home pc to my laptop
16:29<raph_ael_>it's in your log
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16:30<dakota_>What will that do exactly?
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16:30<raph_ael_>yusuo: ~/.config
16:30<raph_ael_>dakota_: should provide some info, maybe your libtool does not support the lib you want to compile
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16:34<dakota>I typed that command should i pastebin it or give you a certain read-out?
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16:36<raph_ael_>dakota: it may be related to libtool, but i can't help you more
16:37<raph_ael_>well i've gone a bit further in my problem, how can i tell alsa to use card 1 instead of 0 ?
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16:40<retrospectacus>raph_ael_, you may try alsactl --help as root
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16:42<raph_ael_>retrospectacus: thanks, second time you help me in a few days ;)
16:43<retrospectacus>any excuse to take me away from my real job :P
16:43<raph_ael_>hehe
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16:47<raph_ael_>retrospectacus: in fact i forced usbcard to be first used in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
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16:48<retrospectacus>sounds like a good solution
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16:49<raph_ael_>retrospectacus: thanks again ;)
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16:52<dakota>Could someone look at this error? http://pastebin.com/K8yvCF0P
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16:57<kenyon>dakota: well, it's running the command "false" that's causing the error
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16:57<dakota_>How do i fix?
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16:58<kenyon>dakota_: install from the debian repositories
16:59<dakota_>I already did but then the app thats using this lib complains about it needing the 1.0 version instead of the latest.
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16:59<kenyon>dakota_: is that app in debian?
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17:01<dakota__>kenyon: I already tried the latest one in the repo but the app I am using this lib with complains about it and wants the olde 1.0 verion when I compile the other app.
17:02<kenyon>dakota_: is that app in debian?
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17:02<dakota__>no.
17:02<kenyon>sounds like the solution is to get the app to work with the version of the library you have installed
17:03<dakota__>kenyon: no its not thats what got me compiling everything...
17:03<dakota__>ok, how do I do that?
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17:03<mib_mdod9o>please, while installing debian via netinst, there is a choice to install some groups of packages, like I always use graphical desktop environment, laptop and standard system utilities (there are others, ssh server etc.)
17:03<mib_mdod9o>how to find out, which packages they contain
17:03<kenyon>dakota__: I don't know, you haven't even said what that app is
17:03<mib_mdod9o>or which they install
17:03<kenyon>mib_mdod9o: you can see them in aptitude
17:03<themill>dpkg: tell mib_mdod9o about tasksel
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17:04<dakota__>kenyon: sorry it is idevicerestore
17:04<mib_mdod9o>tasksel/
17:04<mib_mdod9o>?
17:05<mib_mdod9o>bin
17:05<mib_mdod9o>command
17:05<mib_mdod9o>I see
17:05<mib_mdod9o>let me try
17:05<kenyon>!enter
17:05<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
17:06<mib_mdod9o>well I executed tasksel
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17:06<mib_mdod9o>still didn't solve my situation
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17:06<kenyon>dakota__: have you read the installation instructions? I think you're doing something wrong. looks like it should work with the current debian versions of those dependencies
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17:07<mib_mdod9o>nothing useful in man tasksel
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17:07<themill>mib_mdod9o: did you read what dpkg told you?
17:08<dakota>kenyon: this is what I am trying to install https://github.com/posixninja/idevicerestore/
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17:08<mib_mdod9o>yes I read
17:09<mib_mdod9o>dpkg bot said: The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
17:09<dpkg>okay, mib_mdod9o
17:09<kenyon>fail
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17:10<maf>hi everybody
17:10<themill>mib_mdod9o: I asked dpkg to send you a message about tasksel and it did.
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17:11<maf>I have downloaded firefox 3.6.12 for linux
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17:12<maf>after unpacking with tar I have now a subfolder .../firefox where I can start firefox with ./firefox without problems....
17:13<maf>but there is no firefox in the gnome menus ???
17:13<kenyon>maf: you're doing it wrong. install iceweasel from the debian repositories.
17:13<retrospectacus>maf: you probably already have iceweasel installed, just use that
17:13<maf>why not firefox?
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17:14<retrospectacus>!why iceweasel
17:14<dpkg>Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg>.
17:15<retrospectacus>maf: iceweasel is absolutely identical to firefox, except it's called iceweasel
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17:15<maf>what ist dfsg-free?
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17:16<retrospectacus>debian free-software guidelines specify a standard of freedom. Firefox does not meet it
17:16<yoshio>!tell maf about dfsg
17:16<maf>is iceweasel also available in version 3.6.12?
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17:17<retrospectacus>,versions iceweasel
17:17<judd>Package iceweasel on i386 -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.15-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.15-1; squeeze: 3.5.15-1; experimental: 3.6.12-2
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17:17<retrospectacus>maf: only in experimental. This means no.
17:17<maf>but 3.0.6 is ok?
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17:18<retrospectacus>maf: sure
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17:19<maf>retrospectacus: thx for info - can iceweasel 3.0.6 be installed through aptitude?
17:20<retrospectacus>maf, of course, aptitude install iceweasel. However it is probably already installed
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17:20<dakota_>Could someone help with a compiling problem?
17:20<maf>the version 3.0.6? not yet on my system. anyway - thx a lot. bye.
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17:23<chealer>!someone
17:23<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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17:24<wang>???
17:25<wang>who s there
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17:25<yoshio>dakota_, version 1.0.2-1 of libimobiledevice1 is in squeeze, why not just apt-get source that?
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17:27<dakota_>yoshio: what do you mean?
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17:27<dakota_>The app I am trying to compile but can't untill this is installed only wants version 1.0
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17:28<yoshio>dakota_, apt-get source libimobiledevice1 (after putting squeeze in your sources.list)
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17:30<yoshio>dakota, /usr/lib/libimobiledevice.so.1 is a sym link to /usr/lib/libimobiledevice.so.1.0.2 - what error is compiling the app giving you?
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17:31<yoshio>dakota, /usr/lib/libimobiledevice.so.1 is a sym link to /usr/lib/libimobiledevice.so.1.0.2 - what error is compiling the app giving you?
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17:33<Feet>yoshio: I cant use the latest the app I am trying to compile complains about it needing version 1.0.
17:33<yoshio>paste the error from the app
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17:35<hpvincent>babilen, hello
17:35<hpvincent>I am still trying clays-mail
17:35<dakota>yoshio: I cant use the latest version because the app I am trying to compile complains and want the older version.
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17:36<hpvincent>like it so far, one odd thing, it displays deleted message or moved message in the main INBOX list, as grayed out, is that disableable ?
17:36<themill>dakota: please sort out your internet connection. I'm guessing people are sick of repeating themselves.
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17:36<dakota>I cant its been doing that for a week, its not my connection everthing is working fine, its the server thats disconnecting me.
17:37<yoshio>dakota, paste the actual error message, not your explanation of it
17:37<dakota>ok.
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17:40<dakota_>Why does this IRC server continue to drop?
17:40<kenyon>dakota_: only for you, it seems
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17:44<dakota_>yoshio: Here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/La5ew7Qi
17:45<themill>dakota_: that's not the error that your application gives about needing a different version of the library
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17:46<yoshio>,versions libimobiledevice1
17:46<judd>Package libimobiledevice1 on i386 -- sid: 1.0.2-1; squeeze: 1.0.2-1; experimental: 1.0.4-1
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17:48<yoshio>dakota_, I wanted to see the error from the app compilation, not the libimobiledevice1 compilation
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17:56<yoshio>dakota_, I typed "apt-get source libimobiledevice1", then cd'd into the dir. looking at debian/patches, I see some changes -http://pastebin.com/3cZcczjQ -- maybe you need those changes to compile
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18:32<mattcen>Hi all, having just installed a base Sid install, followed by 'aptitude install ~pstandard ~t^laptop$', what do I need to install/configure to get framebuffer to work on my console?
18:34<jhutchins_lt>mattcen: If you want a system that _works_ install lenny. sid is for experimenting with new packages.
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18:36<mattcen>I realise this jhutchins_lt, and am prepared to try my hand at dealing with Sid. I actually did a 'aptitude full-upgrade' from Squeeze, and the framebuffer didn't work there either (though ta that stage I dind't have the standard or laptop packages installed0.
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18:38<jhutchins_lt>mattcen: What's your hardware?
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18:39<mattcen>Macbook 3,1
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18:41<mattcen>The framebuffer worked in Ubuntu Lucid, but I'm not sure if that says much. On my Desll XPS I found that the frame buffer didn't work on Squeeze until I installed ~t^desktop$ ~t^gnome-desktop$, but I don't know which package made it work, and would rather not install the entire desktop suite.
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18:48<jhutchins_lt>mattcen: Well, get your chipset and get googling!
18:49<cthuluh>weird
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18:53<jhutchins_lt>mattcen: squeeze and later the framebuffer is supposed to be enabled by default, built into the kernel, controlled by kms.
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18:59<mattcen>Right.
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19:04<mib_mdod9o>worth installing clean debian and gnome-core afterwards?
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19:05<mib_mdod9o>whole gnome-desktop-environment seems too huge for me
19:05<mib_mdod9o>I would not use these apps provided by it
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19:06<ilvecchioalex>hi there
19:06<mib_mdod9o>hi
19:07<ilvecchioalex>can't get to rest... need help with my home server... would you please help me?
19:08<mib_mdod9o>throw out of the window
19:08<ilvecchioalex>:) drastic uh?
19:09<mib_mdod9o>late night in here, I would destroy every server which prevents me from sleep
19:09<ilvecchioalex>completely right
19:09<ilvecchioalex>ok you convinced me
19:09<mib_mdod9o>which is probably every server, because servers are like starting airplane, if you have some prof. rack server
19:10<mib_mdod9o>:D
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19:10<ilvecchioalex>I'd better sleep
19:10<mib_mdod9o>tomorrow at work, we can continue with server stuff, or just a man can get a mobile phone with ssh client, and do whatever :P
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19:11<mib_mdod9o>but night is for falling into sleep while watching MASH in bed
19:11<mib_mdod9o>:D
19:11<mib_mdod9o>good night mates
19:11<ilvecchioalex>:) good night!
19:11<ilvecchioalex>see you tomorrow then :))
19:12<ilvecchioalex>not that hard to get convinced eh?!
19:12<ilvecchioalex>ciauz
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19:13<retrospectacus>ilvecchioalex: you mentioned that you are having a problem?....
19:14<ilvecchioalex>yes indeed but it'd be better to go to sleep instead
19:14<mib_mdod9o>probably he is very tired and he was just waiting for someone to prove: yes, time for bed
19:14<mib_mdod9o>and I am right, I am always right, time to bed lol
19:14<ilvecchioalex>you know when you have a looping thread running in the head?
19:15<ilvecchioalex>bye
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19:16<mib_mdod9o>and others, do some sleep also
19:16<mib_mdod9o>gn
19:16<mib_mdod9o>!
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19:51<hurz>hello may someone help me i am a newbie just 5 min
19:51<hurz>about installing a driver
19:51<bremner>hurz: tell us more
19:51<hurz>i am a ubuntu user btw
19:51<hurz>i downloaded a nvidia driver
19:51<bremner>then you should ask in #ubuntu on freenode
19:52<hurz>i accidentally banned from freenode and i cant get in again lol
19:52<hurz>may u help me for 5 min
19:52<bremner>sorry, I don't anything about nvidia, and ubuntu is not supported in this channel.
19:52<hurz>what is the "path/to/"
19:52<bremner>try their forums.
19:52<hurz>no about a command
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19:53<hurz>i dont even know what the commands mean
19:53<hurz>path/to?
19:53<mattcen>!ubuntu
19:53<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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19:53<hurz>mates, i accidentally banned from there
19:53<hurz>they thought i was flooding
19:54<hurz>just a stupid question its not about the system
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19:54<hurz>what is path-to?
19:54<nadir>say it is under /home/user-name/Downloads,
19:54<nadir>in that case /path/to is just that.
19:54<themill>hurz: please wait a bit and try #ubuntu on freenode again later. Or try their forums.
19:54<hurz>how can i show my path to the system
19:54<hurz>its on desktop
19:55<hurz>but it doesnt work when i writing that
19:55<hurz>desktop/nvidia64,run bla bla
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19:55<themill>hurz: we don't support the nvidia installer here and we don't support ubuntu. Please ask in the right place.
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20:02<sisk>Is there any way to publish a website to Frontpage Extensions from Debian other than using Wine to run Frontpage?
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20:10<retrospectacus>sisk: Frontpage is obsolete. Also terrible.
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20:12<haney>hello
20:12<retrospectacus>haney: hi, you have a question?
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20:12<haney>i have problems with the FSCK.ext4
20:13<haney>while starting my debian6 appears FSCK......check........failed...(non-contiguous)
20:14<haney>help me!
20:15<mattcen>OK well I fiddled a bit, and my framebuffer started working. I installed ~t^desktop$, and it caused my screen to be blank during boot. I then tried to start X as root via SSH, and my console appeared using the framebuffer.
20:16<mattcen>I then tried a few other things, before trying to revert my changes by purging the packages installed by ~tdesktop, and it still works OK :S
20:17<haney>anything idea?
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20:19<haney>begin us
20:19<haney>i have problems with the FSCK.ext4
20:19<haney>while starting my debian6 appears FSCK......check........failed...(non-contiguous)
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20:22<haney>help me!
20:23<bremner>hmm. I wonder if this will work any better tonight.
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20:28<sisk>retrospectacus: Completely agreed. I'd never consider touching that piece of crap given a choice. Unfortunately the webpage I've been asked to take over has no other way of publishing.
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20:31<haney>mmm
20:31<tom4golf>
20:31<haney>where i can obtain solution for the fsck.ext4
20:32<haney>???
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20:34<retrospectacus>sisk: well you could try downloading the files from the place with ftp and fussing with them old-school using vim
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20:42<sisk>I use Eclipse for editting actually. The issue is that the host doesn't support FTP.
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21:02<haney>well
21:02<haney>see your soon
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21:05<jawnsy>heh
21:05<jawnsy>let's say I was an idiot, and managed to get sd_mod (SCSI disk driver) into blacklist-local.conf
21:05<jawnsy>my system now no longer boots, obviously. any ideas how to fix that? :)
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21:06<jawnsy>cd /3
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21:07<tempakul>My monitor suddenly blank when I run apt-get dist-upgrade
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21:19<jawnsy>wow
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21:19<jawnsy>I figured it out, you can use the recovery screen to insmod the necessary drivers, and then it boots properly :o
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21:30<dvs>!insmod
21:30<dpkg>Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"? modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under Linux 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer
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21:40<jawnsy>meh
21:40<jawnsy>dpkg: insmod worked just fine
21:40<dpkg>jawnsy: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
21:40<jawnsy>err dvs*
21:41<jawnsy>dvs: I ended up insmod'ing the drivers, booting it up, then doing dpkg-reconfigure linux-image... and it fixed everything
21:41<jawnsy>Debian++, jawnsy--
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22:49<Nunca_Enchando>?
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22:54<xThiAg0>hi guys.. debian squeeze will be ready in December/2010?
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23:33<twb>Where's the cfengine3 info manual?
23:34<twb>apt-file can see the info manual in cfengine2, but not 3
23:35<twb>Grmph, I bet it was purged from upstream's source tarball and never got a separate cfengine3-doc-nonfree package
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