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---Logopened Fri Dec 03 00:00:12 2010
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00:14<W0rmF00d> what is the name of the package that automounts filesystems in /media/?
00:14<twb>W0rmF00d: something in gnome
00:14<twb>W0rmF00d: udisks or hal, I guess.
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00:15<W0rmF00d>I don't think it is specific to gnome....I thought I remember it working from a console as well (without x11/gnome running)
00:15<twb>W0rmF00d: but you had gnome installed, right?
00:15<W0rmF00d>yes
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00:15<twb>That's why
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00:16<twb>That's why
00:16<WormFood>but what is the name of the package, do you know?
00:16<twb>I don't, sorry
00:16<twb>I know udisks/hal will be involved
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00:18<WormFood>it is not udisks, unless that requires X11/gnome to be running to work (I'm working just in console right now)
00:18<twb>Didn't you just say it worked while on the console?
00:19<twb>Rather: what evidence do you have for that assertion
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00:22<WormFood>I said I thought I remember it working from the console.....but I just fired up X11, and it does auto-mount, so I'm guessing my memory was faulty (or I have some other package doing that)
00:22<twb>IIRC what happens is udisks registers itself with udev, and when a disk arrives udisks probes it and then tells GNOME "there's a new USB disk called fred!"
00:23<twb>Then some gnome thing mounts it
00:23<twb>Looking for packages that depend on udisks would be a good start
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00:48<king>screen resolution problems; screen is way too big in a VM, and way too small on my comp, X refuses to allow itself to be edited properly
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00:54<yoshio>WormFood, http://www.monperrus.net/martin/automounting+usb+flash+drives+on+linux+with+udev+and+pmount http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/automount-usb-mass-storage-664973/ http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
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00:57<WormFood>thanks yoshio
00:57<yoshio>king: if you're in gnome, System->Preferences->Display
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00:59<king>the option to change screen res is blank, no options are available
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00:59<king>and when i try i reconfigure xorg, it doesn't give me any screen res options
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01:02<yoshio>dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg-core (maybe not -core ?)
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01:09<king>it still skipped any screen options...
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01:27<yoshio>!xorg config
01:27<dpkg>From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken) or by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Squeeze, input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg config lenny> <xorg config squeeze>.
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01:33<king>could it be possible that debian disagrees with my motherboard?
01:33<king>!xorg config lenny
01:33<dpkg>In lenny, you can often use an <empty xorg.conf> but if you need to, you can use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your keyboard layout. If you have further things you wish to configure, use "X -configure" ("X -configure :1" if server is already active) to produce a xorg.conf template.
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01:37<king>still nothing, i did X -configure :1 and it didn't do any good
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01:39<jm_>why do you want xorg.conf file?
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01:41<king>my screen res is all messed up
01:42<jm_>right and you want to specify a different resolution manually - just write it yourself
01:42<yoshio>king: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which is probably empty, at least on squeeze), you just need a section like: SubSection "Display", modes "1024x768", EndSubSction - http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html
01:43<king>if i try editing xorg.conf file directly my system crashes... i even had someone help me directly in person...
01:43<jm_>editing a file with an editor makes your system crash?
01:43<king>no, after i save the file, next time i reboot it fails to beet
01:43<king>i'm using lenny, btw
01:44<jm_>you mean somethign bad happens when X tries to start?
01:44<king>yes, i guess
01:45<jm_>just start it manually until you know it works, i.e. disable a display manager until then
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01:46<king>\i, uh, don't really know how to do that, and i'm sure their is either a better way to deal with the problem, or i'll just deal with it for now
01:47<jm_>!nodm
01:47<dpkg>Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "update-rc.d xdm stop 20 2 3 4 5" and friends will also disable the dm. echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or just hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console.
01:47<jm_>that echo false thing
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01:49<king>thats a little more 'rolling up the sleeves' than i'm willing to do right now, i'll come back when i'm little more comfortable with doing stuff like that
01:49<king>thank you all anyway
01:50<jm_>well how do you intend to fix X if not like that?
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01:50<king>i, uh, don't, its not so bad on a desktop
01:51<jm_>another thing - you can try and use xrandr or its counterpart in GNOME/KDE if you're using that to change resolution
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01:55<king>i'll be back another time, you guys are starting to feel like family
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02:54<ilvecchioalex>good morning everybody
02:55<ilvecchioalex>I'm having problems with my Lenny home server, anybody can help?
02:55<gsimmons>ilvecchioalex: Just go ahead and describe your problem.
02:55<ilvecchioalex>tnks
02:56<ilvecchioalex>I installed it a month ago as a netinst but without the graphic environment
02:57<ilvecchioalex>everything went good until yesterday I used tasksel to install the graphic env
02:57<ilvecchioalex>something went wrong I'm not sure exactly when during download I suppose
02:58<ilvecchioalex>but something has started to install since after I rebooted it can't find libm.so.6
02:58<ilvecchioalex>and stuck there
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02:58<ilvecchioalex>I've checked ld configuration and it seems to be alright
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02:59<ilvecchioalex>libraries are there and cached
02:59<jm_>if libm is missing something is seriously wrong
02:59<ilvecchioalex>I'm looking for ideas to troubleshoot the provlem
03:00<ilvecchioalex>after starting in rescue mode I can see the libraries at their right place
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03:00<ilvecchioalex>I have some clue anyway
03:00<jm_>what are the remaining issues now?
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03:01<ilvecchioalex>that's all I'd like to boot e start from where I left it
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03:02<ilvecchioalex>I have some clue that it tarted to make an unwanted upgrade
03:02<ilvecchioalex>of the kernel
03:02<ilvecchioalex>from 2.6.26-i486 to 2.6.26-i686
03:03<ilvecchioalex>could it be possible?
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03:03<jm_>what CPU do you have?
03:03<ilvecchioalex>It's Pentium 4
03:04<jm_>686 is OK for that
03:04<ilvecchioalex>so I messed it from the beginning
03:04<ilvecchioalex>doh!
03:05<jm_>well both would work, you can easily amend this later
03:05<ilvecchioalex>good news
03:06<ilvecchioalex>as of now I've checked that the tinting loader ld is well configured and it looks as it is indeed
03:06<ilvecchioalex>the symlinks to existing version of libm are in /lib dir
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03:08<ilvecchioalex>I thought the problem was for a library linked from libm.so but found anything wrong fom ld libm.so.6
03:09<jm_>so does it boot or not?
03:09<ilvecchioalex>no it doesn't
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03:09<jm_>but single user mode boot works?
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03:10<ilvecchioalex>I'm checking things by using the reach mode from the netinst cd
03:10<ilvecchioalex>neither single user boot works
03:10<ilvecchioalex>I get the same error
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03:11<ilvecchioalex>sorry reach=rescue mode above
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03:13<jm_>what error is it?
03:13<ilvecchioalex>cannot load shared library libm.so.6 no such file
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03:14<ilvecchioalex>it's should be at the moment of loading the kernel just after padding ELF
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03:15<ilvecchioalex>would a chroot install be a good idea? in rescue mode
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03:16<ilvecchioalex>I'd reinstall the kernel
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03:16<ilvecchioalex>what do you think of it? (never done it anyway)
03:17<jm_>try verify if libc6 package is installed correctly and which version it is
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03:18<jm_>to verify*
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03:18<ilvecchioalex>I can see libc.so library in /lib dir is it enough?
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03:20<jm_>is this 32bit install?
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03:20<ilvecchioalex>yes it is
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03:21<jm_>shouldn't it be libc.so.6 ?
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03:22<ilvecchioalex>yes it should be that I remember I saw libc.so* symlinks around
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03:22<jm_>also try to verify md5sums -- md5sum -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.md5sums
03:22<ilvecchioalex>I think the installation on libc screwed up ibdeed
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03:24<ilvecchioalex>that makes sense because I still think that something went wrong during the download
03:24<jm_>well download correct libc6 deb and install it manually
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03:26<ilvecchioalex>aaah I've just lost the metro stop! LOL
03:26<ilvecchioalex>missed it while talking to you
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03:29<ilvecchioalex>may I install a deb package without apt? I ciouldn't find it in the rescue mode console
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03:33<peace>tes
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03:35<devil>ilvecchioalex: you can install with dpkg -i <package>. if there is unresolved dependencies, (dpkg does not install those) an apt-get -f install will install those.
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03:36<ilvecchioalex>ok so I have to make sure that I have dpkg in rescue mode shell
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03:38<ilvecchioalex>thank you all hope that works
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04:09<imre>új vagyok
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04:10<twb>I don't even know what language that is
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04:11<jm_>hungarian :)
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04:11<twb>What's the ISO639 code for that?
04:12<jm_>HU I suppose
04:12<qq->!hu
04:12<dpkg>i guess hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t.
04:13<twb>Ha, magyar.
04:14<imre>köszi a segítséget
04:14<twb>This is the downside of getting one's education from out-of-copyright texts.
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04:18<twb>Whenever I see a German I think of Gibbon's epithet "teutonic barbarians"
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04:21<padski>morning, I've just seen "WARNING: PROGRAMMING BUG IN E2FSCK! OR SOME BONEHEAD (YOU) IS CHECKING A MOUNTED (LIVE) FILESYSTEM."
04:22<twb>Nice
04:22<padski>I'm pretty sure it's not mounted.
04:23<twb>cat /proc/mounts
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04:23<twb>Although I think before anything else, I'd back it up somewhere
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04:24<padski>http://paste.debian.net/101393
04:24<padski>twb, good point!
04:25<twb>I can't see it
04:25<twb>maybe reboot or telinit 1 and try again?
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04:30<padski>it is an sdcard that some daft automounter grabs when I put it in, so (the first time, paste is the second), I unmounted it. also filesystem came from my phone (an arm) and I am on an atom, but it seems to read it okay (I'm sure this should work). I'll try booting into single user. back inna bit.
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04:53<padski>Looks like I am seeing #555456
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05:02<SingAlong>i intend to use my tablet as a usb gadget when connected to my pc. installed debian on it and compiled a custom kernel with the USB Gadget support (File-backed storage gadget) module enabled. Anything else i should do?
05:02<padski>and I need to patch and build my own package. the debian package is e2fsprogs_1.41.12-2, is the correct version number for me to use (so that subsequent debian upgraeds install) e2fsprogs_1.41.12-2.0 ?
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05:11<padski>SingAlong, when I used usb gadget last I used the network bit to do tcp/ip over the usb. then I used nfs or ssh/scp. there is some usefull looking stuff if you google "linux usb gadget mass storage howto"
05:12<SingAlong>padski: it always throws me the article at linux-usb
05:13<SingAlong>padski: oh ya with your query terms, i get some useful results at the bottom. thanks!
05:13<padski>SingAlong, you're welcome!
05:14<SingAlong>padski: actually thanks a million. there's even a link from Texas Instruments wiki.
05:15*SingAlong thinks that googling the right words makes the difference and wanders off
05:15<padski>heh
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05:22<padski>or should the debian revision be something like 2+0
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05:23<kenyon>padski: I would use something like e2fsprogs_1.41.12-2~padski
05:23<kenyon>then e2fsprogs_1.41.12-3 will win
05:23<kenyon>I think
05:23<kenyon>maybe it's e2fsprogs_1.41.12-3~padski
05:24<padski>2~ sorts after 2+
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05:24<mjt>~ is before anything else
05:24<mjt>that's special
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05:24<mjt>try dpkg --compare-versions
05:24<kenyon>yeah, so you want your -3 version to be < than the debian -3
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05:30<SingAlong>padski: I compiled the kernel on my comp first (just to be sure it works) bfore testing on tablet. Does this usb gadget module need any hardware support? (my comp has a usb port like any other).
05:30<padski>mjt, kenyon, thanks "a tilde sorts before anything, even the end of a part". I could just remember that it is complicated and best to ask someone who can remember!
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05:30<SingAlong>padski: so i'm planning to test by connecting it to my laptop via usb. just want to know if that's valid testing or if it requires hardware support to work
05:31<SingAlong>where "it" is the comp before i test it with my tablet.
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05:33<padski>SingAlong, there are two sorts of usb port: master and slave (or whatever they call them). master can supply power, slave can consume it. usb gadgets are for the slave side. the usb spec says (last i read) that you can only have one sort on a device (although there are devices that break that rule)
05:34<padski>SingAlong, sorry, misread what you said.
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05:34<SingAlong>padski: nah thats right.
05:35<SingAlong>padski: i was about to test it by connecting two host ports. which you said shouldnt be done.
05:35<SingAlong>padski: oh. so i guess screwing up my tablet a few times before it works is the easy way to go :D
05:35<padski>SingAlong, yeah, sorry!
05:35<SingAlong>padski: sorry? you are helping me
05:35<padski>SingAlong, do you have jtag
05:36<SingAlong>nope!
05:36<padski>padski, I just mean sorry for saying I was wrong, when I was right, and the general cloud of confusion arising from that ...
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05:36<SingAlong>padski: haha :) its all fine
05:36<padski>SingAlong, Is there a nice bootloader ?
05:36<SingAlong>better than grub?
05:37<SingAlong>oh sorry. i misunderstood what you said again
05:37<SingAlong>padski: are you asking about the bootloader on the tablet?
05:37<SingAlong>padski: ya. it's some cheap chinese tablet i bought to experiment with.
05:38<SingAlong>it has software with NES-style graphics :D
05:38<padski>depending on the device you are flashing, there is a risk you may flash it with something non-functioning. a good bootloader can make that a lot safer. otherwise you may be running the risk of "bricking" it
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05:39<SingAlong>oh.
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05:41<padski>SingAlong, probably safer from a laptop, in case you get a power cut
05:41<SingAlong>padski: ah! so you mean i can use my laptop as a usb gadget while it's not charging?
05:42<padski>SingAlong, unlikely. a laptop is usually usb master
05:42<SingAlong>ya. so no alternatives to the tablet to test it?
05:43<SingAlong>i googled for usb host to slave converter cables. seems like there's nothing like that. (apologies. i'm not much of an electronics guy)
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05:44<padski>SingAlong, another usb gadget device? I used to do this on an htc universal, and on there I was booting from inside the WinCE, so there was (almost) no risk of bricking it.
05:44<SingAlong>padski: hmm... hope i find something like that.
05:44<SingAlong>i have an HTC Desire and an arduino both usb slave gadgets. lets see
05:45<padski>SingAlong, years ago I had an original ipaq. people bricked those all the time. there was a guy you could send them too who would crack em open and use the jtag.
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05:45<SingAlong>haha :) good old days, wish i was old enough then
05:46<SingAlong>i wish i find some microcontroller development board that i can install linux on and play with it. tired of my arduino
05:46<SingAlong>that way i can also test my kernel stuff
05:46<padski>point about the bootloader being that on some devices you are flashing the whole device at once, on others if your system doesn't boot, it still boots into the bootloader and you can still flash a new one from there.
05:47<SingAlong>padski: do you have a blog?
05:47<padski>SingAlong, no
05:47<SingAlong>padski: just wanted to know if you write these kid of awesome tips somewhere :)
05:49<padski>SingAlong, you want to play with uclinux ?
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05:53<SingAlong>padski: reading about it after you said
05:53<SingAlong>ya thats fine too.
05:53<SingAlong>just need a good board for it
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06:07<Pamietajcieo>Hello!
06:07<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: hi
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06:12<padski>SingAlong, no idea.
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06:14<SingAlong>padski: just remembered a few, gumstix, hawkboard, pandaboard
06:14<SingAlong>padski: sorry. just mentioned it if you need them sometime
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06:18<padski>SingAlong, I understand some realtime stuff is more predictable ?
06:18<SingAlong>padski: what? (didnt understand what you asked)
06:18<Pamietajcieo>I would like to ask where can I write email if I found some strange while installing Squeeze?
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06:19<SingAlong>padski: apologies. just got diverted to when i found a bunch of interesting hackable boards.
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06:19<SingAlong>internet is so distracting!
06:22<padski>SingAlong, yes, I sat down to fsck a filesystem two hours ago, now I'm rebuilding the software :-)
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06:22<Pamietajcieo>I would like to ask where can I write email if I found some strange while installing Squeeze?
06:22<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: whats 'strange'?
06:23<Pamietajcieo>Installations stops while making something with discover package
06:23<Pamietajcieo>grey screen is appeard and thats the end
06:23<Pamietajcieo>only reboot is helping
06:24<Pamietajcieo>this situation has place while installing automated debian
06:24<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: why do you want to email someone about it? just ask here and someone might know the answer
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06:24<Pamietajcieo>there was some call for testing
06:24<Pamietajcieo>so I test...
06:25<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: state your device, define problem with the error and someone help might be able to help. the only thing is that you'll might have to wait till the right person notices your call for help :)
06:25<Pamietajcieo>I know there is something like bugtracker where I can send email with information, but I`am lame with that kind things.
06:26<Pamietajcieo>Just asking where can I write email :)
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06:33<jnanadarshan>hello
06:34<SingAlong>jnanadarshan: hello!
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06:37<bremner>Pamietajcieo: I believe you can use "reportbug installation-report"
06:39<jm_>isn't it installation-reports?
06:39<bremner>err, yes
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06:49<Dirty_Snipe>I have bought a new HP Proliant server ML310 G5p and for some reason when I setup the SATA raid as mirror it just sees the two seperate drives on the install process. Please help
06:52<jm_>does it have some cheap on-board raid?
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06:59<Dirty_Snipe>yes it does
06:59<Dirty_Snipe>lol
06:59<Dirty_Snipe>sata raid
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07:00<Dirty_Snipe>i just want to mirror the OS drive
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07:03<EmleyMoor>You're as well off with software RAID
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07:05<weasel>Dirty_Snipe: I don't think the ml310 has a proper raid controller, does it?
07:05<weasel>so just use software raide
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07:08<jm_>Dirty_Snipe: better to use software raid like already mentioned, but to use this as raid you need to use dmraid
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07:12<Dirty_Snipe>jm_: so i just use apt-get dmraid
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07:14<cthuluh>apt-get dmraid
07:14<cthuluh>E: Invalid operation dmraid
07:14<cthuluh>;)
07:14<cthuluh>I prefer aptitude's error messages
07:15<Dirty_Snipe>any tips on setting it up?
07:15<jm_>Dirty_Snipe: well not if you want to configure it in the installer
07:16<cthuluh>software raid setup in the installer should be easy and automated, isn't it?
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07:17<Dirty_Snipe>kk thanks
07:18<Dirty_Snipe>I will give it a go soon as I finish pulling in this install
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07:29<Dirty_Snipe>I got another one for you. What program would i need to use to team two nics?
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07:37<Nemoder_>Dirty_Snipe: I believe all you need is the kernel bonding driver configured. though I dont' know how to do that myself, see http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/bonding.htm
07:39<Nemoder_>oh and infenslave apparently
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07:45<Dirty_Snipe>Nemoder_: thanks will take a look at it
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08:08<tazz>i have a inode number, i need to figure out what does it point to. How do i do that ?
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08:11<petemc>tazz: find -inum
08:11<tazz>petemc thanks
08:11<petemc>np
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08:19<kally>hi
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08:20<scum>:D
08:20<scum>hi?
08:21<scum>eee tctc
08:21<scum>nikoi li nema tuka e
08:21<scum>?
08:21<qq->!bg
08:21<dpkg>Bulgarian users are invited to join #debian-bg @ irc.freenode.net (Vsichki bylgari sa pokaneni da se vkliuchat v #debian-bg @ irc.freenode.net)
08:22<SingAlong>!in
08:22<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in
08:22<SingAlong>!uk
08:22<dpkg>rumour has it, uk is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and comprises the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. (Under ISO 3166-1, it should have been .gb not .uk, but that never quite caught on.)
08:22<SingAlong>!gb
08:22<dpkg>from memory, gb is an abbreviation for GigaByte. And also for Great Britain. Has also been associated with great beer & as an acronym for gurubonz.
08:22<qq->!tell SingAlong -about selftell
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08:23<SingAlong>qq-: thank you!
08:23<qq->np
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08:23<Pamietajcieo>what disk space should debian have minimum to work properly?
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08:24<qq->~2 GB ( X included)
08:24<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: have a 2gb minimum (in case you plan to install a few software). else i would suggest around 20gb if possible
08:24<gil-galad>how much do you have ?
08:24<Pamietajcieo>101MB
08:24<gil-galad>:)
08:24<Pamietajcieo>I am not going to use that 101 space
08:25<Pamietajcieo>just asking if it gonna work correctly
08:25<Pamietajcieo>its my web serwer
08:25<Dirty_Snipe>i got 2x 250GB SATA and 3x 1TB SAS Dual Port :)
08:25<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: which vps?
08:25<gil-galad>mm i don't know
08:25<Pamietajcieo>vps?
08:25<Pamietajcieo>dont understand
08:25<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: oh sorry. thought you were using your own vps.
08:26<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: if you want to just try debian then just use it on virtualbox
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08:26<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: that is... if you dont want to "really" install it but just try installing it
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08:26<Pamietajcieo>I have installed Sqeeze as VM under VMware. And debian + xfce4 + apache2 + php5 + mysql = 935MB
08:27<SingAlong>whats squeeze?
08:27<Pamietajcieo>and there is 101MB left. Just want to know if debian will work with that 101MB
08:27<Pamietajcieo>Debian 6 Squeeze
08:27<SingAlong>ah ok.
08:27<SingAlong>isnt 5.07 the stable thing?
08:27<Pamietajcieo>it is, but there are some diffrents between 5.07 and 6.0 when installing minimal debian
08:29<Pamietajcieo>so 101MB is enought for debian to work?
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08:29<nrub>how can I get a list of currently connected displays?
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08:29<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: enough only if you strip down stuff. like remove nano editor (or vi whichever you prefer)
08:29<nrub>xrandr says: can't open display :0.0
08:30<SingAlong>nrub: have xorg installed?
08:30<nrub>I am in x and have two displays connected
08:30<nrub>yes
08:30<SingAlong>oh
08:30<Pamietajcieo>SingAlong: for what?
08:30<Pamietajcieo>SingAlong: nano is nice
08:30<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: saves space.
08:31<Pamietajcieo>SingAlong: I dont need to save space :)
08:31<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: if you prefer nano remove vi. removing either saves around 1mb or so.
08:31<Pamietajcieo>SingAlong: just asked if its gonna be ok - that 101MB for working
08:31<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: well saving here means you can try squeezing it into 101mb :)
08:32<Pamietajcieo>SingAlong: I already install all I need. and there is 101MB space left.
08:32<SingAlong>thats fine then
08:32<Pamietajcieo>Ok, that is what I wanted to hear :)
08:33<Pamietajcieo>btw, I have squeeze Lenny minimal install to 164MB.
08:33<Pamietajcieo>Have someone make it smaller?
08:33<SingAlong>Pamietajcieo: install from the business card ISO
08:34<Pamietajcieo>SingAlong: business card need internet for install. Internet = deb http://ftp.debian.org = lot of space needed.
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08:39<nrub>what do I do if $ xrandr -q says it can't open display :0.0?
08:40<SingAlong>set default display maybe? (well i dont know about it but just a guess)
08:40<jm_>nrub: you need to run it in X
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08:41<nrub>hmm
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08:41<SingAlong>nrub: startx
08:41<nrub>jm_: I thought I was running in X... using Konsole
08:41<nrub>SingAlong: I'm in KDE right now typing in Konsole
08:41<jm_>nrub: run xrandr as the same user that you started/logged in X
08:41<nrub>jm_: thanks that might be it
08:42<nrub>jm_: yeah I was using the root account, switched back to my regular user and it works :)
08:43<nrub>now I just need to figure out how to make xrandr recognize the second screen
08:43<SingAlong>nrub: isnt that automatic? atleast that so when it's my laptop
08:44<nrub>xrandr -q lists one screen (Screen 0)
08:44<cahoot>not using a proprietary videodriver?
08:44<nrub>cahoot: I have taken over this debian box from someone else. The video card is Matrox so I have no idea what's installed.
08:45<nrub>i was googling about it and saw some example using xrandr
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08:55<jm_>bremner: congratulations on becoming a DD :)
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09:05<SingAlong>jm_: whats DD? Debian Dude?
09:05<babilen>Debian Developer
09:05<SingAlong>babilen: oh my! calling Debian Developer would have been so nice :)
09:06<SingAlong>i mean calling Deb Devs as Debian Dudes would have been nice
09:06<babilen>I figured as much ;)
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09:27<Dirty_Snipe>ive installed dmraid from synaptic package manager but dunno what i should do next. can anyone help?
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09:42<Dirty_Snipe>can anyone help me with this?
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09:44<bremner>!tell Dirty_Snipe -about software raid
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09:53<Dirty_Snipe>bremner: thank you
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09:55<Dirty_Snipe>? confused
09:55<ex0>How can I run scripts at startup as root?.. I edit /etc/init.d/rc.local and put at bottom "./myscript &" it should work?
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09:56<Dirty_Snipe>just tried to run mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/hda /dev/hdc but i get the following error Couldnt open for write -not zeroing
09:56<Dirty_Snipe>i havnt a clue what im doing here anyone know?
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09:57<ex0>How can I run scripts at startup as root?.. If I edit /etc/init.d/rc.local and put at bottom "./myscript &" it should works?
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09:58<bremner>!tell ex0 -about repeat
09:58<Dirty_Snipe>bremner
09:58<bremner>Dirty_Snipe
09:58<Dirty_Snipe>can you help me please
09:58<f0rk>ex0: yes. why don't you try it?
09:59<bremner>Dirty_Snipe: I don't know anything about mdadm, just how to find things with the bot
09:59<Dirty_Snipe>i c thanks
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10:00<Dirty_Snipe>anyone here know how to setup mdadm???
10:00<bremner>http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html <- google says
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10:02<Dirty_Snipe>looking into it now thanks
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10:07<Mustafa_M70>Hi all
10:07<Mustafa_M70>were are the arabic room ?
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10:08<Mustafa_M70>?????????
10:08<Mustafa_M70>?????????
10:08<Mustafa_M70>were are the arabic room ?
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10:10<Mustafa_M70>hello !! :@
10:10<Mustafa_M70>were are the arabic room ?
10:11<babilen>Mustafa_M70: No need to repeat the same question so often
10:11<Mustafa_M70>:D
10:12<babilen>Mustafa_M70: You could try #debian-lb, but I think that it is a rather small channel
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10:13<babilen>Mustafa_M70: Well, just one person in that channel over at FreeNode .. *I* am not aware of another arabic channel unfortunately
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10:14<Dirty_Snipe>cant find that app raidtools2
10:14<Dirty_Snipe>i already have dmraid installed
10:15<Dirty_Snipe>but cannot figure out to to set this thing up
10:16<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: Doesn't the tldp how-to cover setting up a software raid with mdadm?
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10:17<Dirty_Snipe>it mentions using raidtools2
10:17<Dirty_Snipe>this is driving me up the wall
10:17<babilen>It also discusses the merits of mdadm .. AFAIK it is *the* standard tool for configuring software raids
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10:20<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: Also read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/mdadm and in particular README.recipes.gz
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10:20<Dirty_Snipe>alredy read it
10:20<Dirty_Snipe>im looking at switching to ubuntu
10:20<Dirty_Snipe>this is a joke
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10:24<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: You'll have to do essentially the same thing on Ubuntu as well. But if you are happier with it I will not stop you. But what is so hard about "mkraid /dev/md0" and "mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=linear --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb6 /dev/sdc5" (for example) ?
10:24<Dirty_Snipe>as i said before i tried that and got an error
10:25<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: My crystal ball is not working today. Paste that error somewhere if you want help with it.
10:26<Dirty_Snipe>is there any easy way to set this up from initial debian net install?
10:27<Dirty_Snipe>i can see in ubuntu there is option under the partition stage.
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10:28<kop>Dirty_Snipe: Use expert mode.
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10:28<codygman>Just curious. Why can't you log on to this irc channel when you are on the root account?
10:28<Dirty_Snipe>kop: do you know how?
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10:28<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: Yes, see "6.3.2.3. Configuring Multidisk Devices (Software RAID)" in the install guide
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10:28<Dirty_Snipe>im not on the linux server
10:28<Dirty_Snipe>im on another pc
10:28<Dirty_Snipe>:p
10:28<kop>Dirty_Snipe: I've done it a few times, but poked it with a stick. Reading the instructions does help.
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10:29<kop>Dirty_Snipe: They are on the web at debian.org.
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10:29<Dirty_Snipe>will look into that guide now
10:29<babilen>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
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10:30<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: But honestly: We can't help you if you don't paste the errors you get.
10:31<Dirty_Snipe>babilen: yea i know. pain in the arse I have to type them out manually
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10:31<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: why? is the computer not connected to the internet?
10:31<Dirty_Snipe>but im going to start from scratch again from netinstall
10:31<babilen>OK, good luck
10:32<kop>Dirty_Snipe: You can do the net install over ssh. (And use putty if you must run Windows on the remote end.) That way you can capture the output. (With script or whatever.)
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10:33<Dirty_Snipe>how can i run netinstall with ssh with no os on system?
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10:33<babilen>and why would you want to do that?
10:33<Dirty_Snipe>kop just said to capture outputs
10:33<mahli>hi
10:33<babilen>mahli: welcome
10:34<Dirty_Snipe>just running expert install now
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10:34<babilen>Dirty_Snipe: I think that kop's comment referred to your statement: "yea i know. pain in the arse I have to type them out manually" and the fact that kop is unaware that you tried this on a live system
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10:35<Dirty_Snipe>babilen: kk
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10:36<Dirty_Snipe>this expert install is complicated
10:37<Dirty_Snipe>dunno if i need all these components
10:37<Dirty_Snipe>devicemapper crypto module?
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10:40<Dirty_Snipe>afk
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10:41<haney>hello
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10:43<babilen>welcome
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10:45<haney>what is the propouse in this IRC
10:45<haney>?
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11:01<Dirty_Snipe>to help people like me who get stuck every five mins
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11:03<Dirty_Snipe>right im back at the partition stage
11:04<Dirty_Snipe>atm 1 drive sda has 2 partitions
11:05<Dirty_Snipe>1# primary 240gb B ext3 and 5# logical 9.3gb F swap
11:05<Dirty_Snipe>do i just change the ext3 to raid?
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11:13<Dirty_Snipe>odd
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11:14<Dirty_Snipe>i set all partitions to raid and have identical setups for both drives. When i try and save setting to disk i get the following error "No root file system is defined."
11:14<kop>Dirty_Snipe: Then you need to put filesystens on your raid partition(s).
11:14<Dirty_Snipe>kop: how
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11:16<Dirty_Snipe>nvm think i found it
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11:21<kop>Dirty_Snipe: You said you were "on another pc", so you could use that to install via ssh. (If you desired.)
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11:26<Dirty_Snipe>kop: sok i think i got it sorted. Its installing os now
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11:35<Dirty_Snipe>things are looking up :)
11:35<Dirty_Snipe>are there any tools for checking raid status after the os has installed?
11:36<Dirty_Snipe>any reccomendations that is
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11:37<ucenik35>hellooo
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11:43<Dirty_Snipe>hi
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11:44<f0rk>Dirty_Snipe: checking? like monitoring?
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11:46<Dirty_Snipe>f0rk: yea
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11:46<f0rk>Dirty_Snipe: is this like a personal machine?
11:47<Dirty_Snipe>sorry was sorting out backup tapes for weekend
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11:47<WormFood>does anyone know the "right" place to add additional configuration directives to exim (specifically I need to add an "interface" line)
11:47<f0rk>I'm guessing not?
11:47<Dirty_Snipe>f0rk: webserver
11:49<f0rk>and I'm also guessing you don't have a monitoring setup in place
11:49<f0rk>anyway, set a script to run in cron, grep the status, and email you if there is a problem
11:50<Dirty_Snipe>will need to check monday
11:50<Dirty_Snipe>boss wants to go home
11:50<f0rk>if you want to monitor many machines, look into Nagios
11:51<Dirty_Snipe>f0rk: thank you
11:51<Dirty_Snipe>have a nice weekend all
11:51<Dirty_Snipe>o/
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12:08<MeglaW>!ubuntu
12:08<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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12:26<hagen>i set some apps to autostart (opera, deluge, etc) but pppoe-start doesn't start. why?
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12:35<oddMod>hello all
12:37*f0rk waves
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12:40<mase>hagen need to be started as root?
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12:41<mase>hagen why dont you start pppoe via init-rc scripts?
12:41<mase>oh, he's away...
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12:47<retrospectacus>f0rk: fyi, that server yesterday I thought I crashed with "echo blah" did just reboot, no problem!
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12:48<f0rk>yeah, that's what 'b' did
12:48<f0rk>'oops'
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12:50<retrospectacus>:D anyways, off to work. Have a good one!
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13:00<oddMod>is there a way to make it so when i press Ctrl+f3 to launch a terminal/
13:01<mase>oddMod kde?
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13:01<retrospectacus>you can setup hotkeys with compiz if you are using that
13:01<oddMod>gnome
13:01<oddMod>mase: gnome*
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13:02<f0rk>oddMod: there should be. I have the windows key bound to open a terminal
13:03<f0rk>although I am not at home so I can't tell you how exactly
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13:07<oddMod>oooh thats night
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13:07<oddMod>its cool f0rk i found it.
13:07<oddMod>i run Ubuntu on my laptop and debian for my home pc so sometimes the differences kill me
13:07<MeglaW>then reinstall your laptop with debian.
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13:08<retrospectacus>!debtakeover
13:08<dpkg>well, debtakeover is Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian (woody, not sarge! Use DEFAULT_SUITE=woody and upgrade from there) for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/ . You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin.
13:08<retrospectacus>>:D
13:09*themill hasn't heard of anyone successfully using debtakeover for a long time
13:09<retrospectacus>looks a wee bit outdated
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13:11<oddMod>MegLaW: Debian doesn't play as friendly with wireless as Ubuntu.
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13:11<MeglaW>que the flame
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13:12<oddMod><-- not trolling promise
13:13<MeglaW>its OT anyway so.. i better start upp css
13:13<retrospectacus>I don't know if this is a new feature but I upgraded my squeeze laptop yesterday and not only did the wireless work, I plugged in my iphone to charge and presto, eth3 popped up in the network-manager applet. Works great :)
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13:14<retrospectacus>just wanted to share that and add that Debian is great! bye
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13:21<oddMod>retrospectacus: thats awesome.
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13:24<cahoot>gnome more likely
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13:43<MikeQ>Oi Lads, and Lassies!
13:44<MikeQ>I seem to have a wee little problem.
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13:44<MikeQ>When I install Debian from a USB key (used Unetbootin), the key gets recognized as sda, while the hard drive is recognized as sdb.
13:45<MikeQ>Now that obviously ensures general hilarity when GRUB tries to do it's thing post-install.
13:46<cahoot>!uuid
13:46<dpkg>[uuid] Universally Unique IDentifier, used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire.
13:46<MikeQ>Do any of you have a quick sollution for that? Alas, my google-fu is to weak for me to find any other sollutions online.
13:47<MikeQ>Humm, that seem to be a possible way to do it.
13:47<MikeQ>I shall try that immediately. You have my thanks, good Sir!
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13:58<crisalte>olaaa
13:58<crisalte>carmen
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14:00<crisalte>paloma
14:00<crisalte>
14:00<bremner>!es-social crisalte
14:00<dpkg>crisalte: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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14:00<nr9nb9no9>can someone pls tell me what to edit in gnome so that if i dont use the mouse or keyboard for a while i have to login again?
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14:24<Guest1546>no
14:25<themill>!ubuntu-es Guest1546
14:25<dpkg>Guest1546: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
14:25<Guest1546>hello
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14:54<darkmist>dctv ghbdtn!
14:54<darkmist>всем привет
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14:56<darkmist>есть кто??
14:56<Hydroxide>!ru
14:56<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
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15:13<john>Hi, I just apt-get'ed the package texlive-latex-extra, and with that package I also got texlive-latex-extra-doc which is a really huge package that I don't want.
15:13<john>How can I avoid this being downloaded?
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15:14<john>The same happens for many texlive packages -- you get the documentation as well.
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15:15<john>However, you can remove the documentation later so the dependency can't be that strong
15:15<petemc>tried --no-install-recommends ?
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15:17<john>petemc, thanks that worked.
15:18<petemc>np
15:18<burakkilinc>I search Steffen Moeller ?
15:18<john>I'll investigate how to set that as default...
15:18<petemc> /msg dpkg apt-recommends
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15:21<jhutchins_lt>Why would you waste time downloading documentation when you can come here?
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15:23<jacks_lt>how do I download these files with wget with one command? http://offog.org/stuff/racks/
15:23<john>exact.. :) It's quite clear I'm not reading it
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15:25<burakkilinc>I search Steffen Moeller ? How can I find him?
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15:28<jhutchins_lt>burakkilinc: Did you look under the bed?
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15:32<john>jacks_lt, doesn't something like wget -r -np -nd do it?
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15:33<jacks_lt>john: no
15:33<jacks_lt>john: it downloads the index file
15:33<petemc>it should
15:34<jacks_lt>wget -r -np -nd http://offog.org/stuff/racks/
15:34<jacks_lt>?
15:35<john>sure
15:36<john>it'll work unless the robots file don't allow it (I think)
15:36<john>sorry, I didn't read the above
15:36<john>My mistake.
15:37<john>maybe you can tell wget to download all the links it can find in the index file
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15:38<john>Or you could turn off robots checking?
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15:38<john>wget -e robots=off -r -np -nd http://offog.org/stuff/racks/ ?
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15:44<jacks_lt>john: looks better
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15:44<alberToo_MaRaaCEnnnAAaAA>hola
15:44<alberToo_MaRaaCEnnnAAaAA>¿Alguien habla español?
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15:45<oddMod> !es
15:45<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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15:46<user01>question: if current stable has 900 and some bugs and current testing has 200 and some bugs, wouldn't the testing actually be better to install?
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15:47<jacks_lt>john: tnxs
15:47<jhutchins_lt>user01: Not necessarily. The severity of bugs in testing may be worse, things may break as fixes are attempted, and security support is not as good.
15:48<jhutchins_lt>user01: Remember that stable has a lot more users who've had a lot more time to find and report bugs.
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15:49<user01>jhutchins_lt: ok thanks
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15:58<bilbo>Hi everyone! I got a problem trying to get a USB WLAN to connect my home computer . lsusb indicates that it is a rtl8191s chipset. I followed http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x, updating the kernel to 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64, installing firmware-realtek and wireless-tools rebooting doing modprobe, etc. And... nothing.
16:00<bilbo>tried to get wicd instead of network-manager (I am running lenny, btw). Not much better. I have a XP in dual boot and I could test that the hardware works. Any one got an idea?
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16:01<f0rk>fwiw I could not get that chipset to work either
16:02<bilbo>sounds bad for me...
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16:06<mjt>what's the easy way to share files on a home network nowadays, if all the machines are linux?
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16:07<mjt>webdav? samba/cifs? nfsv4?
16:08<petemc>i use samba as i have windows/linux/osx
16:08<john>bilbo, fwiw, the last time I had wireless network problems was because I didn't know that iwconfig did not handle wpa
16:09<mjt>isn't wpa dead for a long time, just like wep?
16:09<MeglaW>ye
16:09<MeglaW>wpa2 is ok tho
16:11<louie>mjt, maybe you could have a look to nfs
16:12<mjt>setting up kerberos on a home network appears to be overkill ;)
16:12<mjt>(re nfs)
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16:13<bilbo>I don't think that's the problem here when I meant nothing happens, I meant nothing... I cannot even see the available networks (might as well take the USB out, I get the same result)
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16:13<mjt>MeglaW: re wpa2 is ok: http://www.airtightnetworks.com/wpa2-hole196
16:14<MeglaW>ohh
16:14<chealer>mjt: the easy way would have to be waiting 10 years until the software improves... until then, I already used NFS. opening a beer before may make it easier.
16:14<MeglaW>how about wpa2-psk? ;)
16:14<MeglaW>i may have meant that
16:14<mjt>MeglaW: (not that it's really bad, since only authenticated user can do that, but already something :)
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16:15<MeglaW>ye
16:15<chealer>mjt: wpasupplicant is need for WPA[1] as well as WPA2
16:15<MeglaW>i took a 2gig drive and started to generate a password file...
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16:16<MeglaW>after a week it was 800gb hehe
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16:16<mjt>chealer: i use nfs for over 10 years already, the problem with it is complete lack of authentication.
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16:17<mjt>chealer: at least v2 and v3, not v4
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16:20<T999>#ubuntu-ru
16:20<mjt>now when i think about v4 and proper auth, i'm not sure i want to put krb5 server on my router - which is the only machine @home which is turned on 24x7 - because it faces the 'net and krb server is very important part, i'd rather set it up to _use_ some other krb server than let someone to crack it from outside. But there's no other machine which is up all the time, and setting one up just to be kerberos server is a bit too much.
16:21<mjt>so the prob isn't actually how easy to set it up, but something else.. ;)
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16:23<T999>привет посоветуй пожалуйста среду разработки C++ для убунты?
16:23<mjt>!ru
16:23<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
16:23<mjt>!ubuntu
16:23<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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16:24<mjt>what _are_ C++ development environments out there, anyway?
16:24<T999>привет посоветуй пожалуйста среду разработки C++ для убунты?
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16:25<mjt>T999: здесь говорят по-английски и не говорят про ubuntu
16:26<T999>а где говорят
16:26<EmleyMoor>#ubuntu
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16:27<mjt>and i really don't understand why it's so difficult to use google or yandex to search for that stuff
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16:28<[e0f]>T999: ubuntu@irc.freenode.net ubuntu-ru@irc.freenode.net
16:28<mjt>linux ide c++ or somesuch - lots of hits on google.
16:28<EmleyMoor>Good news, I think, on my laptop - the wireless seems fine now
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16:28<mjt>eclipse, netbeans, kdevelop, i use emacs. even [g]vim can do that....
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16:30<EmleyMoor>£15 to fix it
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16:35<jhutchins>EmleyMoor: So electronics in Britain still cost the same number of pounds as the same thing in the US costs in dollars.
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16:38<EmleyMoor>Dell wanted £78 (!)
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16:41<jhutchins>EmleyMoor: Local shop replaced the card?
16:42<EmleyMoor>jhutchins: Supplier half way up the country sent me one
16:42<EmleyMoor>(would have been local 15 years ago)
16:42<jhutchins>EmleyMoor: Down near Hampshire?
16:42*EmleyMoor isn't that far south
16:43<EmleyMoor>... and the supplier is in the Midlands
16:43<jhutchins>They have a good LUG there.
16:43<jhutchins>I lived near Andover for a while.
16:44<EmleyMoor>jhutchins: Can believe it. Used to have a friend in Hampshire who was probably involved
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16:53<oddMod>hmmm seems like a pretty sweet link weasel? I mean free iphone and a freee ipad /click
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16:54<oddMod>:P
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17:00<just-me> ouch
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17:11<bilbo>I have to go, thanks for your answers anyway. I asked the question on forums.debian.net. Let's see...
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17:24<edbian>How do I figure out the GID of a group without root?
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17:29<edbian>got it. ls -n
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17:30<nadir>cool.
17:30<nadir>:-)
17:31<nadir>You think a simple "id" would suffice for what you asked for?
17:31<retrospectacus>you could also read it from /etc/group
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17:33<edbian>retrospectacus, But I have to be root to read that file?
17:33<[e0f]>no
17:33<retrospectacus>nope
17:33<edbian>Right as usual!
17:33<edbian>:) Thanks gusy
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18:09<hever_>Does an etch mirror still exist?
18:10<hever_>I need to downgrade qemu...
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18:11<bremner>!tell hever_ about etch
18:11<koollman>hever_: archives.debian.org
18:11<hever_>yes found it just this sec.
18:11<hever_>thanks!
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18:33<oddMod>Coiud12!
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18:47<LordVorp>I have a question, that doesnt' seem to be in the faqs: How do I build a kernel *LIKE DEBIAN* ? All guides I've ever seen say, run your OWN make *config step, with no hints as to the "standard" deb config, and u can build a kernel package. How do I build a debian-style kernel?
18:49<LordVorp>... and now that i've put my ass out there, the FAQ has a link entitled: HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage. <sigh>
18:49<LordVorp>thanks!
18:49<LordVorp>:)
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18:51<jhutchins_lt>LordVorp: That works really well doesn't it?
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18:56<LordVorp>oh of course, I usually try to NOT embarrass myself if a simple STFW will give the answer... but i'm as human as anybody. :)
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18:59<jhutchins_lt>Consistently the quickest way to find an obvious answer.
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19:02<LordVorp>i have a neat new toy, a GuruPlug, armel arch, that comes w/ lenny. But it doesn't have the udlfb driver I need for my DisplayLink adapter, and I can't find the original sources they built this image with, to just make the module. But udlfb has been mainstreamed into the kernel as of 2.6.34, so ... here I go
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19:03<jhutchins_lt>Good luck!
19:03<themill>LordVorp: there's an #openplug on freenode that might be of use
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19:16<jorma>i want big penis in my ass
19:17<jorma>helloooyyy
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22:03<supaplex>!pciid [9005:0250]
22:03<dpkg>grep -i `echo 9005:0250 | sed 's/:/.*/'` /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap
22:03-!-mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ
22:04-!-mode/#debian [-b *!*@81.209.74.250] by themill
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22:05<supaplex>humm. no drives. interesting.
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23:19<sorcerer>hello im new to backtrack does anyone now if backtrack can only see 3 gb of memory or more
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23:21<panda>hi all
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23:24<nasutix>sorcerer: backtrack is not debian
23:24<nasutix>!bt
23:24<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, bt is Bhutan, or <bluetooth>, or British Telecom, or <bittorrent>, or <BackTrack>.
23:24<nasutix>damn
23:24<nasutix>!backtrack
23:24<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
23:25<sorcerer>soryy didnt know
23:25<nasutix>and sorcerer; i think you use the 32bit version
23:25<nasutix>32bit see only three gb ram
23:25<nasutix>mostly
23:25<sorcerer>is there a 64 bit one
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23:26<sorcerer>thank you
23:26<nasutix>np
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