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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-12-04

---Logopened Sat Dec 04 00:00:15 2010
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00:07<Cr4cke1>Hi
00:07<Cr4cke1>new 2 Chat
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00:09<Cr4cke1>HI
00:09<Cr4cke1>hey unmensh
00:09<Cr4cke1>r u der ....?
00:10<f8l>Cr4cke1: This channel is not for chat. It's a support channel.
00:10<nasutix>hi Cr4cke1
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00:10<Cr4cke1>i was new 2 dis
00:10<nasutix>you have probs?
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00:11<Cr4cke1>im using dual operaing system
00:11<Cr4cke1>Ubuntu & Windows 7
00:12<Cr4cke1>one drive was not detecting in Windows 7
00:12<nasutix>!ubuntu
00:12<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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00:12<nasutix>win cant read ext3 or ext4
00:13<Cr4cke1>i partitioned as NTFS
00:13<Cr4cke1>i created other drives as NTFS those r detecting except dis
00:14<Cr4cke1>Could u please tell dis how to configure firewall in Ubuntu
00:14<nasutix>there is no firewall
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00:16<Cr4cke1>id doubt is der any way using one laptop multiple Monitors can i provide assistance to my friends to view ebooks in my room
00:16<Cr4cke1>using ubuntu
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00:17<nasutix>ask in #ubuntu
00:17<nasutix>and learn a little bit about linux
00:18<nasutix>use the wiki
00:18<nasutix>for beginnerstuff
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00:19<Cr4cke1>whr can i find him ...?
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00:20<nasutix>irc.freenode.net
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00:21<nasutix>Cr4cke1: language?
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00:23<Cr4cke1>i didnt get u
00:23<Cr4cke1>whr can i find wiki ....?
00:23<nasutix>where you are from?
00:23<Cr4cke1>India
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00:25<nasutix>Cr4cke1: https://help.ubuntu.com/
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00:25<slumpy>hello
00:26<nasutix>hello slumpy
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00:26<Cr4cke1>hey whr u frm nasutix....?
00:31<nasutix>europe, when you want chatting, use #debian-offtopic
00:31<nasutix>because
00:31<nasutix>!ot
00:31<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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00:33<EmleyMoor>Is ext4 going to be "supported and stable" in squeeze? If so, are there any filesystems to keep at ext3 or even ext2 now?
00:34<Cr4cke1>#debian-offtopic
00:34<dondelelcaro>EmleyMoor: it'll be supported; whether its stable is really a question of the kernel that is distributed
00:34<EmleyMoor>Cr4cke1: /join #debian-offtopic
00:35<dondelelcaro>EmleyMoor: I'm personally not convinced that ext4 has had enough burn-in time, but that's kind of a personal decision
00:35<EmleyMoor>dondelelcaro: I will wait and see, anyway
00:35<EmleyMoor>Might stick with what I've got until at least wheezy
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00:38<dondelelcaro>though that said, if you need huge filesystems and very large files, ext4 is what you have to use
00:41<nasutix>i use jfs since 3years without problems
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04:15<jaleks>wtf happened to dillo?
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04:16<gsimmons>dpkg: dillo
04:16<dpkg>Dillo is a GTK+ based browser that's small, stable, developer-friendly, usable, fast, and extensible. Not part of Lenny's release due to Debian bug #510348. Removed from Debian to resolve bug #577019. http://www.dillo.org/
04:16<jaleks>thx
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04:26<jaleks>dang
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05:39<hide>The God uses Debian.
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05:39<nasutix>yes, i use debian, right
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06:15<hide>nasutix: how do you know you are The God?
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06:22<ubuntu>okko
06:22<nasutix>hide: polytheism, i am the god of love ;-)
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06:22<Guest1627>aloha
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06:36<hide>oh nice!
06:36<hide>always liked gods of love
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06:46<ufo>hello
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06:47<jacks_lt>how do I find my java home?
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06:47<jacks_lt>I have to copy to <JDK-home>/jre/lib/ext
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06:53<mattcen>jacks_lt: While I'm sure there are better ways to do this, I just did this by using the following: locate '/jre/lib/ext'
06:53<mattcen>Admittedly, that may give more than one result, but it will certainly narrow it down for you.
06:56<jacks_lt>thanks, hmm I have sun java and openjdk
06:57<babilen>jacks_lt: e.g. /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/
06:57<babilen>jacks_lt: Depends on the "alternative" you are using. Run "update-java-alternatives -l"
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06:58<jacks_lt>java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk
06:58<jacks_lt>java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
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07:00<babilen>so, openjdk ... be 100% sure with "ls -l /etc/alternatives/java"
07:00<jacks_lt>yep thanks
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07:27<panda>who can help me?I want install os into u-dish
07:27<babilen>what is "u-dish" ?
07:27<panda>usb dish
07:28<abrotman>disc ?
07:28<panda>usb disk
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08:35<Laa>Ola
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08:36<Laa>Ablarme pORFAVOR
08:36<amphi>!es
08:36<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
08:37<Laa>Hello, you can talk me please I'm very bored:)
08:38<Laa>I speak two languages Spanish and English!
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08:38<Laa>Hello Holaa
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08:39<Laa>What languages do you speak in you
08:39<devil>Laa: this is not for chitchat
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08:41<Laa>Then why is it?
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08:42<Laa>devil?
08:42<devil>Laa: debian support
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08:44<Laa>Do not speak very good English but I know this is a chat esque devil!
08:44<devil>Laa: it is a technical channel. not your usual chat
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08:47<Laa>What then is this debial And you where are you?
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08:49<Laa>ok ok where ar your
08:49<nasutix>!ctell Laa ot
08:49<nasutix>damn
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08:49<devil>Laa: you might want to go to #debian-offtopic
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08:50<nasutix>ctell geht ja hier nicht
08:50<devil>even though i think there is a kazillion channels better suited for you
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08:50<slush>nasutix: it's !tell
08:51<slush>nasutix: and please stick to english :)
08:51<nasutix>ok ok slush
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08:55<void-995>hi everyone. do you plan to update packages for netbeans and qtcreator (qt-sdk)? or how can i do it myself?
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08:57<babilen>void-995: What do you mean? You want newer versions of qtcreator? Which version of Debian do you use?
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08:59<babilen>,versions qtcreator
08:59<judd>Package qtcreator on i386 -- sid: 1.3.1-3; squeeze: 1.3.1-3; experimental: 2.1.0~beta1-1
09:00<void-995>squeeze. but i have sid repos added to the apt list too...
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09:02<babilen>void-995: What do you want? You could try backporting/installing the experimental version, but I would assume that qtcreator depends on a lot of other QT libraries, but that might be wrong.
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09:07<oskie>I have a disk image in a file, and I've loop'ed it to /dev/loop0 with losetup - how do I tell linux to look for partitions in it?
09:08<@weasel>kpartx
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09:09<oskie>apparently you get partitions if you load the loop modules with max_part=63 (or something)
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09:29<void-995>netbeans-ide: 6.0.1+dfsg-2 [contrib] - how about that? any plans to update it to 6.9.1?
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09:32<babilen>void-995: probably, is there a bug about the new upstream version? It is pretty easy to just download netbeans and install it locally though
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09:34<void-995>yeap, but i think it would be better if users could find latest netbeans-ide in lastest offical contrib repo.
09:35<babilen>i agree, you might want to check what is keeping the maintainer from uploading the newest version
09:35-!-docelic [~docelic@p57988613.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
09:36<babilen>and if you can help → go for it :)
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09:36<void-995>yes, i want...
09:36<void-995>but...
09:36<void-995>i'm newbie =)
09:36<void-995>tell me how
09:36<void-995>and i would help
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09:38<babilen>,dbugs http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=543907
09:38<babilen>err
09:39<bremner>don't you mean 478762?
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09:39<babilen>bremner: Yes, that as well.
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09:41<babilen>But I though that the information that the package is orphaned and maintained by "Debian QA" explains the lack of updates pretty well.
09:41<hpvincent>hi all, I was trying to install experimental xserver-xorg, aptitude proposed me a solution , but then it refuses to actually install xserver-xorg-core because it would apparently break my softwares (leaving the system in an half installed state , which I think is even worst) : http://pastebin.com/v2LA4yhL
09:42<hpvincent>I am not quite sure how to resolve this
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09:47<mughie>hey smua
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09:48<mughie>hallo para debian fans
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09:48<bremner>hpvincent: does aptitude install -f propose to remove those packages broken by the new xserver-xorg-core?
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09:49<hpvincent>bremner, I need -f option so that it remove packages ?
09:49<hpvincent>anyway, I have removed the packages manually now, so I can"t tell you if what you proposed would have worked :(
09:50<hpvincent>but I don't understand why aptitude propose a solution that it then fails to apply
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09:50<bremner>me neither, but that is what it is called experimental
09:50<hpvincent>well, my version of aptitude is not experimental
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09:50<hpvincent>just the package I was trying to install
09:51<hpvincent>anyway thanks for the tip about -f, I 'll try that next time
09:51<hpvincent>time to restart X :)
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10:13<dragonstone1020>Running Lenny and Squeeze and need help with Amanda configuration. I have been following a doc on HowToForge for Lenny and so far I think I almost have it done. Using Lenny for server and Squeeze for client. I believe everything is configured correctly but the services will not start in xinetd. To give a simple example, on the Squeeze client, there is one service, "amanda" however logs show
10:13<dragonstone1020>10/12/4@08:57:14: ERROR: 2733 {activate_normal} bind failed (Address already in use (errno = 98)). service = amanda
10:13<dragonstone1020>10/12/4@08:57:14: ERROR: 2733 {cnf_start_services} Service amanda failed to start and is deactivated.
10:13<dragonstone1020>10/12/4@08:57:14: DEBUG: 2733 {cnf_start_services} mask_max = 0, services_started = 0
10:13<dragonstone1020>Any help would be appreciated.
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10:14<SQlvpapir>meh, I locked my self out of the system with the maintainers /etc/sudoers overwriting mine -,-
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10:49<dragonstone1020>trying to conifgure Amanda client on Squeeze but xinetd will not start the service "bind failed (Address already in use (errno = 98)). service = amanda" It seems this only happens when setting it to Stream and TCP. If I change it to DGRAM and UDP the service starts.
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10:54<root__>bonjour
10:55<root__>hello
10:55<nasutix>bad bad name :-D
10:55<root__>sory
10:55<root__>i have a big problem
10:56<nasutix>maybe i can help
10:56<root__>thank you
10:56<root__>I have a live cd of backtrack 4 r1
10:56<qq->!backtrack
10:56<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
10:57<nasutix>damn, qq was faster
10:57<root__>sorry wat is the good chanel?
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10:57<nasutix>see
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10:58<root__>and?
10:58<bremner>!tell root__ -about backtrack
10:58<nasutix>irc.freenode.net #backtrack-linux
10:58<root__>thank you
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10:59<dragonstone1020>I have a problem with Amanda and xinetd. The service will not start when using stream and tcp.
11:00<bremner>dragonstone1020: something like lsof can tell you what is running on that port
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11:03<bremner>"lsof -iTCP:amanda" as root
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11:04<dragonstone1020>not so sould like a complete Noob but what does this mean?
11:04<dragonstone1020>xinetd 3412 root 5u IPv4 143691 0t0 TCP *:amanda (LISTEN)
11:04<remi1802>hi !
11:05<remi1802>could somebody help me ? i have a question for gedit
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11:05<bremner>dragonstone1020: it sounds like xinetd is listening on the port, but amanda is trying to startup standalone (i.e. not in inetd mode)
11:06<bremner>probably amanda config needs fixing
11:06<bremner>remi1802: ask your actual question please.
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11:07<remi1802>thank's. I'm looking for syntax highlight in assembler under gedit...
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11:08<bremner>remi1802: sounds a bit specialized. Maybe one of the gnome channels can help. http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels
11:09<bremner>real assembly programmers use ed :)
11:09<@weasel>s/assembly/
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11:09<dragonstone1020>bremner: I've been through a Howto for Lenny on this. the weird thing is if i change the xinetd config file for amanda to use dgram and udp.....the service starts successfully.
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11:10<bremner>dragonstone1020: yes. that makes sense.
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11:10<bremner>dragonstone1020: easiest fix is not to start if from inetd. Otherwise you have to figure out the amanda config.
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11:11<remi1802>bremner: thank you very much !
11:12<bremner>there is no conflict in the udp case because xinetd is (uselessly) listening on the TCP port, and the amanda it spawns listens on udp. But it is still broken.
11:12<remi1802>hpvincent: bonjour hpvincent, un freeboxien, ça fait plaisir :-p
11:12<hpvincent>anyone using fglrx manage to switch VT (between text console and X) more than once ? The first time it works for me, but always fail on next try, only solution is to log via ssh and pkill -9 X to unstuck X
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11:13<hpvincent>remi1802, hello (I believe this is english channel ;)
11:13<remi1802>ho yes, i think so !
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11:14<collette>hi, I've got a strange error at startup. "cupsdcupsd child exited with status 1"
11:14<collette>and yet my error log /var/log/cups/error_log is empty
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11:16<Dubai-Two>hi
11:16<collette>hi
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11:16<Dubai-Two>quick one how can i upate the debian kernal?
11:17<collette>I can't help you - I'm new and useless
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11:17<Dubai-Two>am i on freenode ?
11:17<bremner>no
11:17<abrotman>Dubai-Two: update it to what, from what
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11:18<Dubai-Two>abrotman, i just install the debian i think i need to update the kernel correct me if im wrong please
11:19<dragonstone1020>bremner: All documentation says it needs xinetd to run. One of the first steps is configuring it to use xinetd instead of inetd. So if I understand right, you believe it is a problem with the amanda config and not xinetd?
11:19<abrotman>Dubai-Two: update it to what, from what
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11:19<abrotman>Dubai-Two: IOW, does all your stuff work?
11:21<abrotman>Dubai-Two: what is 'uname -r' ?
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11:22<nasutix>abrotman: uname -r shows you the kernel-version
11:22<abrotman>i'm aware of that .. thanks
11:22<bremner>dragonstone1020: as far as I can tell, from a distance.
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11:23<dragonstone1020>bremner: thanks. i'll check on it from that end. maybe I messed up a config file somewhere along the way
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11:24<collette>uninstal
11:24<collette>oops sorry, wrong keyboard.
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11:27<collette>Hi, I would like to uninstall and reinstall cups and hplip and reinstall. Cups.org doesn't list instructions for uninstalling CUPS, probably because it's too easy. How do I uninstall CUPS?
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11:28<petemc>collette: aptitude purge cups
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11:28<collette>petemc: from the terminal command line?
11:29<collette>that seems to be wrking thanks
11:29<petemc>np
11:30<collette>should I also uninstall and reinstall the dependencies?
11:30<petemc>if you're objective is just to reset the cups configuration then no
11:30<petemc>erm, your
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11:31<collette>the synaptic package manager wants to install a lower version than what's available on CUPS.org. but the lower version didn't work w/ my printer. do you think it's ok to go w/ current version?
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11:33<petemc>if you dont really know what you're doing its best to not try and install packages from outside the packaging system, it can create a bit of a mess
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11:33<collette>I'm already swimming in that pool, wrt hplip
11:36<collette>so aptitude is another packaging system?
11:37<petemc>!aptitude
11:37<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, aptitude is a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude ops> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
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11:38<collette>thanks
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12:00<zeev>Hi, I have a USB slot on my wifi adsl-modem/router. I would like to plug a USB flash disk in it and use it for backUp. How can I access it from my debian? just give me a couple of keywords for googling, please...
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12:03<robbert>Hello everybody... Who can help me with a keyboard problem?
12:03<sney>zeev: start just googling your router's model and 'usb storage' or something along those lines... it may not even be functional. I know the usb port on my router doesn't do anything, it's just there for future revisions
12:04<robbert>My keyboard works in console but not in X
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12:05<zeev>sney: I can use it for storing data with my N900, but I don't know which software enables it
12:05<zeev>(it works by default)
12:06<sney>n900? what's that, cell phone?
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12:06<michal-cr3>hi
12:06<zeev>yes
12:06<zeev>nokia n900
12:06<zeev>based on debian
12:07<michal-cr3>what was that program that automatically searched for closest, fastest mirror and added it to /etc/apt/sources.list
12:07<michal-cr3>?
12:07<nasutix>maemo is no debain
12:07<zeev>based on debian
12:07<nasutix>i have that phone too
12:07<sney>michal-cr3: that was apt-spy
12:07<zeev>nice, so how to use usb flash over wifi
12:07<robbert>@michal netselect-apt
12:07<michal-cr3>sney: thx
12:08<sney>you'd just need to mount it somehow, probably with cifs or whatever your router supports
12:08<michal-cr3>sney: unfortunately it's not in the repo
12:09<robbert>michal-cr3: try netselect-apt
12:09<sney>yah, I haven't used that function since I moved close to a university mirror ^^;
12:10<sney>2MB/s updates every time
12:10<abrotman>judd: versions apt-spy
12:10<judd>Package apt-spy on i386 -- etch: 3.1-16; lenny: 3.1-19; sid: 3.1-19; squeeze: 3.1-19
12:10<abrotman>sure seems to be there
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12:10<zeev>sney: so I if I know for sure that it works - what is the debian's client to acces it?
12:10<zeev>(usb storage over wifi)
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12:11<Xanbreon>Whats the router?
12:11<sney>zeev: it just depends on how the router shares storage. SMB/CIFS or FTP would be my guesses.
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12:12<sney>smb is mounted like a windows share, because it basically is, and ftp is obvious
12:12<Xanbreon>Most of those things are SMD/CIFS in my exp
12:12<Xanbreon>*SMB
12:13<zeev>my Gnome's "windows network" says: Failed to retrieve share list from server
12:13<sney>google it
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12:45<Farshief>Hello, I'm running Atposid and I opted out of having a separate boot partition when I installed it, I now wish to have the separate boot partition, is there a way of moving things without messing up the whole system?
12:46<babilen>!aptosid
12:46<dpkg>aptosid (formerly sidux) is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid. It is not supported in #debian. http://aptosid.com/ #aptosid on irc.oftc.net.
12:47<Farshief>Ah, sorry about that
12:47<Jarlaxe>Hi folk. I'm installing dcp 7010 drivers on a Squeeze. I was not sure if I succeed, so i did a dpkg -l, it gives me a line for one package with "ii" for the 1st one, so i supposed well installed, and a "iF" for the second : I don't understand the F. I check man dpkg, a few, websites, i don't find the meaning. Any idea ?
12:47<Farshief>Thanks
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12:58<babilen>who asked about the "iF" status? It means "half-configured" (you can see the flags in the third line)
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13:01<Jarlaxe>babilen: it's me ! Thank you ! (I still checking the man ^^)
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13:02<Jarlaxe>babilen: i should be blind : i don't find flags in man dpkg ... !
13:05<@weasel>look at dpkg's output
13:05<@weasel>Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
13:05<@weasel>| Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
13:05<@weasel>|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
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13:06<Jarlaxe>weasel: i do have the output and see the flags there. I just do not find their explanation in the man dpkg
13:06<@weasel>F means Failed-cfg. isn't that self-explaining?
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13:07<hever_>Hej how can I check with find if not just a directory, but also a subdirectory in this directory exists? I'm going to list only directries that have a given subdir... It's a bit complicated...
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13:09<Jarlaxe> weasel: i've got it. Thx
13:09<@weasel>hever_: -regex?
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13:10<@weasel>hever_: (that's allow you to find directories with a specific parent directory name at least)
13:10<@weasel>else you can always chain finds I suppose
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13:12<hever_>weasel, aah find is capable of regular expressions, thats really powerful ;)
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13:14<hever_>oh I'm on OpenBSD and this find implementation hasn't it...
13:15<@weasel>well, you asked in #debian
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13:16<hever_>yes sure I'm sorry
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13:16<hever_>my fault
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13:17<@weasel>does your find have a -maxdepth and -mindepth?
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13:20<hever_>yes
13:21<hever_>I'm playing around with finding /cur and getting just the ones that are in ReportSpam
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13:24<MSosa>hola
13:25<MSosa>este es el chat de ayuda en español ?
13:25<f8l>!es
13:25<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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13:27<arosen>Anyone know what I have to do to get all the python-django modules to show up in apt-get ?
13:27<arosen>What source do i have to add?
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13:28<babilen>arosen: You shouldn't add any third-party repositories. What does "aptitude search ~n^python-django" give you?
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13:29<arosen>babilen: just python-django but i need python-django-evolution and other stuff from python-django-* my ubuntu machine has those in apt-get.
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13:30<babilen>arosen: Well, this is not the Ubuntu channel. Try #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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13:30<babilen>ah, disregard that :)
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13:30<babilen>,versions python-django-evolution
13:30<judd>Package python-django-evolution on i386 -- experimental: 0+svn164-2
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13:31<babilen>arosen: Which version of Debian do you use?
13:31<arosen>lenny
13:32<babilen>arosen: You might want to consider upgrading to Squeeze, because most python-django (well, *all* except python-django) are not available in Lenny. What kind of machine are we talking about (personal laptop vs. webserver or so)
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13:32<arosen>webserver
13:32<arosen>I'm running debian 5 (from /etc/issue)
13:33<arosen>thats lenny right?
13:34<babilen>yes, that is lenny. I would not recommend upgrading to Squeeze in that case. python-django-evolution is *not* available in either lenny or squeeze (the next release), but in experimental. Some of the others might have ben backported. What do you need them for?
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13:35<babilen>http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python-django&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports ← backported packages
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13:38<babilen>You could install upstream packages in a virtualenv for example ...
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13:39<babilen>There are a bunch of tutorials on the interwebs that discuss django deployment with virtualenvs. Would that be an option?
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13:41<babilen>Given that python-django-evolution is quite new, that might be the best option anyway as installing packages from experimental is not a good idea. Another option would be to use Ubuntu.
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13:42<babilen>arosen: Still there?
13:42<arosen>yea
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13:45<babilen>Well, guess you don't want to discuss it then :)
13:48<Mr_Queue>What's the name of the package that will log the boot messages?
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13:49<babilen>arosen: Technologies you want to look into: virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, pip (with requirement files), fabric, mod_wsgi and the combination of them for Django development and deployment
13:49<abrotman>!bootlog
13:49<dpkg>methinks bootlogd is disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to populate /var/log/boot . For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg).
13:49<arosen>babilen: Yea i just decided to install buntu in a vserver
13:49<arosen>sorry
13:49<arosen>thanks for you help!
13:49<Mr_Queue>thanks abrotman
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13:49<babilen>arosen: I would still recommend to take a look at the tools I mentioned :)
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13:52<miki_>hello
13:52<babilen>welcome
13:53<miki_>can you recommend some app that will keep my documents/files synced?
13:53<f8l>miki_: rsync. ;-)
13:53<babilen>synced with what?
13:53<miki_>I have a laptop and a pc and I mess with files on both
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13:54<miki_>I'd like to have the most up to date files on both
13:54<babilen>well, you can either use tools like rsync/unison or rely on version-control software like git/svn/...
13:55<babilen>The latter is much more powerful and would also allow you to travel back in time. It should be noted that these systems are primarily meant for version control of text files, but they (git at least) work well for binaries too.
13:55<babilen>But I guess that rsync or unison is what you are after.
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13:58<babilen>!tell miki_ -about unison
13:58<babilen>!tell miki_ about rsync
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14:04<cr33>hi
14:04<cr33>i've got 'default-jre' installed but java doesn't work
14:04<cr33>i mean, in IceWeasel
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14:09<abrotman>cr33: apt-cache search java plugin .. you need the plugin, not just a jre
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14:11<smv>on a squeze amd64 kvm VM i get this error while trying to start amavis: Starting amavisd: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 466: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!(failed).
14:12<smv>my google foo is not that good today and i can't find any info related to this error. any idea what might be the cause or what this actually means?
14:12<cr33>ok
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14:18<jhutchins_lt>smv: Sounds like that version of amavisd isn't compatible with the hardware/OS. 32b version maybe?
14:18<jhutchins_lt>,versions amavisd
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14:18<judd>Sorry, no package named 'amavisd' was found in i386.
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14:19<alpha573>hello !
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14:20<reis>Hi! Could anyone give a suggestion for an appropriate channel to query about openldap?
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14:23<abrotman>reis: #ldap on freenode perhaps
14:23<abrotman>reis: or #openldap on freenode also
14:23<babilen>or #openldap
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14:25<babilen>,versions amavisd-new
14:25<judd>Package amavisd-new on i386 -- etch: 1:2.4.2-6.1; lenny: 1:2.6.1.dfsg-1; lenny-backports: 1:2.6.4-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1:2.6.4-2; squeeze: 1:2.6.4-2
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14:26<jhutchins_lt>also amavisd-milter
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14:27<cr33>q
14:27<cr33>um
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14:32<otzi>hello
14:33<otzi>is there a better interface to debian bug tracker? I don't like the web interface too much
14:33<bremner>there is email
14:33<otzi>I see that you can download the mbox
14:33<bremner>or bts, on the command line
14:33<bremner>I guess you more likely want "querybts"
14:33<otzi>hm, let me check that
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14:37<smv>jhutchins_lt, the real machine is a AMD, with 8 CPUs (don't have complete details about it, i have acces only into the VM) and the VM has only 2 CPU's. both are squeze amd64 and up to date.
14:37<smv>s/squeze/squeeze
14:38<otzi>hm querybts allows me to navigate through the bugs, but it seems to display only the original report. I was hoping for something that would open a mutt instance configured with the bug mbox or something like that
14:39<babilen>otzi: "bts -mbox" ?
14:39<otzi>yeah, but then I'd need to know the bug number
14:40<babilen>querybts also supports "-mbox"
14:40<otzi>yeah, but it has the same problem
14:40<babilen>err, make that --mbox :)
14:41<otzi>I could browse it on querybts, find the bug number, copy the number and run querybts -m number
14:42<otzi>maybe I should just write my own script
14:42<bremner>otzi: or patch querybts
14:43<bremner>not hardcoding mutt, but a command to open a mailbox seems like a nice complement to the one that fires up a web browser
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14:47<otzi>yeah, it wouldn't be exactly the same as the browser version because the internal interface would still be needed to select a bug
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14:51<bremner>I meant the "b" key in querybts
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14:52<otzi>oh, I was using lenny's version of querybts, it didn't have the b option yet
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14:52<otzi>but that was more in the lines of what I was thinking :)
14:54<fgh11>Братва, скажите кто небудь почему при скачьке образа md5 сумма несходится
14:54<yoshio>otzi: maybe you can use reportbug to browse at least a specific package's bugs (maybe awkwardly)
14:54<abrotman>!ru
14:54<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here.
14:55<yoshio>,versions querybts
14:55<judd>Sorry, no package named 'querybts' was found in i386.
14:55<reis>#ldap
14:55<abrotman>reis: on freenode
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14:55<abrotman>,file querybts
14:55<judd>querybts in lenny/i386: reportbug: usr/bin/querybts
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15:01<yoshio>abrotman, thanks, was wondering how to get apt-file functionality
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15:07<haney>hello
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15:08<haney>how to run .exe in linux64bits?
15:10<haney>anything idea
15:10<MeglaW>trip.lustgas.nu
15:10<devil>haney: with wine
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15:12<haney>in wine appears ERROR DBEClientTransaction FAILED
15:13<devil>haney: check winehq site for compatibility. not all apps run under wine
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15:13<haney>what is the URL?
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15:14<devil>haney: google says its: http://www.winehq.org/
15:14<agony>hello
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15:15<haney>welcome!
15:15<nkem>Hi I'm running Debian Squeeze and today I ran rkhunter.It gave two possible rootkit warnings about Xzibit Rootkit, Xzibit Rootkit.Another warning about "Hidden directory found: /etc/.java , /dev/.udev and /dev/.initramfs".Are these false positive detections due to Squeeze?
15:15<agony>how can I download debian.iso ?
15:16<agony>for 386
15:16<cahoot>!d-i
15:16<dpkg>5.0 lenny is now the "stable" Debian release (Feb 14, 2009). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>.
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15:17<haney>the LAST debian squeeze is STABLE or FREEZE?
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15:17<nkem>i think freeze
15:18<devil>haney: the last (and current) stable is lenny, next is squeeze
15:18<MeglaW>wow
15:18<MeglaW>so wasted
15:19<haney>searching , show only http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-dvd/ (EXPERIMENTAL VERSION)
15:19<agony>I am going full CD/DVD sets and I choose i386 but then I see a list with many iso files
15:20<@weasel>full CD set is what now? like 15 CDs?
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15:20<agony>which one is correct
15:20<cahoot>agony: got a wired net connection?
15:21<nkem>agony: download the firs one,burn it and then do a net install if you have a fast wired connection
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15:23<haney>exist support or assistance in wine?
15:23<agony>by first one do you mean the MD5SUMS?
15:24<agony>I have chosen the i386 link and looking within that link
15:24<agony>Index of /cdimage/squeeze_di_beta1/i386/iso-cd
15:24<agony>and there are many choices within this link
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15:25<nkem>this one debian-507-i386-CD-1.iso
15:25<devil>haney: they probably have a channel
15:25<nkem>It's lenny 32bit
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15:26<agony>nkem: where did you find that?
15:26<nkem>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.7/i386/iso-cd/
15:26<agony>nkem: i will have a look, thanks
15:27<agony>nkem: why is there cd1 through 30?
15:27<nkem>this you have a wide choose http://www.debian.org/distrib/ ,maybe you prefer to use a bittorent client instead of http
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15:31<agony>what are the differences between CD1.iso and CD2.iso?
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15:33<jrabbit>agony: you NEED CD1
15:33<nkem>In the first one you have the base system,in the others you find additional software.during the installation you can choose to install this additional software by replacing with the second cd or choosing the "netinstall" way,that consists in downloading from an oline mirror
15:33<phrosty>CD1 has more packages, isn't required
15:33<phrosty>err CD2
15:33<jrabbit>er
15:33<[e0f]>agony: different set of packages
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15:34<reis>abrotman: thanks
15:35<agony>thank you a lot
15:35<nkem>you are welcome
15:35<agony>I will try with to install CD1
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15:37<nkem>remember to connect your pc with the wired cable during the installation
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15:39<agony>I have only wireless Do you think that I have problem with this?
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15:40<nkem>maybe you will have to load the module for your wifi card during the installation
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15:40<nkem>it depends by your luck
15:41<nkem>depend on :)
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15:42<nkem>don't you have an ethernet cable?
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15:43<dvs>agony: the installer only works with WEP or no encryption at all.
15:45<agony>nkem: I don't have cable
15:45<agony>dvs: what do you mean?
15:45<abrotman>it depends on his wifi card
15:46<dvs>agony: if you use any other encryption, the installer won't work
15:46<dvs>and, as abrotman says, it only works with certain wifi cards
15:47<haney>see you soon
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15:49<nkem>agony:have you got a laptop?do you know the model of your wireless card
15:49<nkem>?
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15:49<agony>no how can I see that?
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15:50<dvs>agony: you don't know the make and model of your laptop>
15:50<dvs>?!?
15:51<agony>my model is lenovo n500
15:52<dvs>intel 5100
15:53<agony>intel 575
15:54<agony>2000GHZ
15:54<dvs>you wont be able to install Debian wirelessly
15:55<nkem>you probably need this http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn
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15:56<dvs>nkem: that only works AFTER Debian is installed
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16:01<agony>I will try to install first with virtual box to see the problems
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16:15<MeglaW>how can i switch a non-encrypted system to a encryptet
16:15<MeglaW>d
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16:24<oskie>what would be the "cleanest" way to allow users to mount cifs file systems?
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16:47<Walex>oskie: the 'users' option in '/etc/fstab'
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16:52<xd>hallo
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17:10<Magic>Do i need to get any software for my VGA cables (laptop to lcd, the jack on the lcd is literally called rgb-tv) to work?
17:10<oxan>no
17:10<Magic>shit
17:10<Magic>so one of the ports are bad.
17:11<Magic>would it start displaying when the bios loads?
17:11<yoshio>Magic: usually you need to press one of the special keys on the laptop to make the external display work - my laptop has a blue "function" key in the lower left, you press it and one of the blue special keys (like suspend) to activate it
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17:30<bja>Ola nesecito ayuda con el ingles
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17:31<abrotman>!es
17:31<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
17:32<Guest6>hello
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17:33<atheya>hey =) can anybody tell me, why audacious has open every new song in new player?
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17:37<jhutchins_lt>magellanino_: krandrtray will often let you set up an external display and toggle it's function.
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17:38<jhutchins_lt>magellanino_: Sorry, nic completion gone bad.
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17:39<atheya>eh. thx for help
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18:07<Jorz>hi
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18:42<Aouta>debian francais svp
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18:43<bremner>!fr
18:43<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
18:43<Aouta>!fr
18:44<Aouta>thanks
18:44<bremner>de rien
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18:46<patrick>exit
18:46<patrick>quit
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19:35<Aouta>!fr
19:35<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
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19:35<Aouta>svp =)
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19:58<krantz>Hehe. I just installed debian on a 2Gb CF flash memory. :)
19:58<krantz>Trying it out right now...
19:58<Aouta>quelqu'un si connait ici pour les pilotes de carte 3d?
19:58<krantz>And it seems to be working just swell. :)
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20:00<krantz>Now all I need to find out is if there is an alternative to Debian that can be installed on a 32Mb CF flash memory.
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22:43<chrispluns>is there an easy way to look at `svn log` offline?\
22:43<babilen>no
22:44<chrispluns>that's really lame :(
22:44<babilen>one reason for using git (or another DVCS)
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22:44<chrispluns>thanks for confirming babilen
22:44<babilen>but you might want to verify that in #subversion over at freenode, but that was the situation the last time i checked, but maybe they implemented some "local server something" in the meantime
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22:55<chrispluns>is there a way to paste in nautilus and/or gnote from rxvt? The expected shift+insert isn't working for me
22:56<chrispluns>nm xclip works
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23:30<tempakul>hi everybody!
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23:37<tempakul>my pc freeze, in the middle of processing apt-get dist-upgrade command
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