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01:43<georg>Hi all
01:43<sney>hi
01:44<georg>I'm install my current system with debootstrap (sid)
01:44<georg>How to made suspend to disk?
01:45<sney>sid is not supported here, but suspend to disk is usually handled with acpitool or something like it
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01:45<sney>acpi-scripts package maybe depending on hardware
01:46<georg>Hmm... suspend was working on Lenny, i remember it
01:46<georg>Okay, i try acpitool
01:46<georg>Thanks
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01:53<georg>hmm... system was suspended correctly
01:53<georg>But don't waking up
01:53<georg>I have just loading system from scratch
01:54<jm_>I use s2disk for that
01:54<georg>I not found something strange in dmesh output
01:55<georg>I was try s2disk, of course
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01:55<jm_>it requires initrd image, not sure if this is handled automatically with debian kernels
01:55<georg>I was trying s2disk, of course*
01:56<georg>It require specian initrd?
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01:56<georg>georg@citadel:~$ ls -la /boot/ | grep initrd
01:56<georg>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9661836 Дек 14 14:55 initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686
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01:57<jm_>yes, /usr/lib/uswsusp/resume or somesuch
01:58<georg>Hmm... what i can read about that?
01:58<jm_>try /usr/share/doc/uswsusp
01:58<jm_>I built my own resume image from source
01:59<jm_>but like I said, perhaps this works automatically with Debian kernels so it's not the issue here
02:00<georg>Hmm... i don't like rebuilding kernel in debian... but i can live w/o suspend) Thanks for try help me.
02:01<jm_>it's rather obvious if it's trying to resume from the disk or if it's a normal boot
02:03<georg>Yeah... somethings not ready for desktop in linux( Thats boring.
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02:41<leroy>i'm having a problem with umounting an external drive, if i umount it graphically as my normal user it reports that "cannot unmount volume, the volume 'volume' is not mounted." yet mount and /etc/mtab say it is, what gives?
02:42<twb>leroy: don't trust /etc/mtab; read /proc/mounts
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02:54<leroy> /proc/mounts says it's mounted even after i tell it to unmount graphically
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02:55<leroy> /bin/umount has sticky set
02:56<jm_>but it only works if user is allowed to umount it via fstab
02:56<twb>leroy: stick is not meaningful for files
02:56<twb>*sticky
02:57<leroy>how do you know if the user is allowed to umount via fstab?
02:57<twb>leroy: because it says "users" in the options column
02:58<jm_>or user
02:58<twb>Whatever
02:59<EmleyMoor>When configuring exim, for a machine thaot occasionally sends mail but doesn't handle it locally, is "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail" and pointing the smarthost at my mail server the best way?
03:01<leroy>ok, that makes sense then, that was missing
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03:01<twb>leroy: if you're running GNOME, you probably don't need an fstab entry at all
03:01<sher>hi
03:01<twb>There's all this udisks and polkit wank to give you root privileges for removable media
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03:04<leroy>i am running GNOME... adding the 'users' option to /etc/fstab doesn't help at all
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03:08<leroy>permissions on the mount point are ok
03:08<twb>Sigh
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03:16<leroy>apparently i don't get it... if by polkit you mean policykit i found that but i don't know what you mean by udisks (i don't have such a thing installed)
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03:17<twb>leroy: is this squeeze or lenny?
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03:19<leroy>lenny stable
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03:20<twb>udisks used to be hal
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03:33<twb>When using apt-get inside e.g. script(1), how do I tell apt-get not to generate progress messages?
03:33<twb>e.g. ^MReading package lists... 0%^M^MReading package lists... 100%^M^MReading package lists... Done^M
03:33<twb>...should instead be "Reading package lists... Done"
03:33<twb>I realize I can post-process it, but I don't want to.
03:33*twb tries -q
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03:54<mitnick>hello
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04:08<Jarlaxe>hi there, i try to play around with FSV on a squeeze, but i'm a little short with compile process. I tar'ed and cd'ed the file, I have a 'configure' file, i do sudo ./configure but "command not found". Rights are 644 for it. Should I modify it to 744 first ?
04:09<nadir>read README or INSTALL or other files like that.
04:10<nadir>not all use configure
04:10<twb>Jarlaxe: what is FSV?
04:10<Jarlaxe>nadir: i did it, but those files are empty (Install and Readme)
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04:10<nadir>"ls -l" and check if there is one.
04:10<nadir>oh. damn. checked the website for advice?
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04:11<Jarlaxe>twb: http://fsv.sourceforge.net/download.html : 3D open source unix file manager seen in jurassic parc (it's really just to play ^^)
04:12<Jarlaxe>nadir: of course, I did ls -l, and check the website. but i don't find really any wiki or something
04:12<twb>Jarlaxe: apt-get install tdfsb?
04:12<twb>http://www.determinate.net/webdata/seg/tdfsb.html
04:12<Jarlaxe>tbfsb ? i check that
04:13<twb>IIRC it's more fun than that other one
04:13<Jarlaxe>it seems. FSB is based on the original one, but seem abandonned
04:14<Jarlaxe>twb: i gonna try it for sure, this tdfsb. But i want to figure out this FSB compile issue too ^^
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04:16<twb>Jarlaxe: tough
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04:17<Jarlaxe>twb: is that so ? i don't realize. I never really compile anything yet. So for once i had a file with the configure file ... ^^ but i suppose it could be very miscellenous from one package to another
04:18<jm_>well it's not going to work if it's 644
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04:18<Jarlaxe>jm_: because it's not exacutable ... sure ...
04:19<bittin>tips on thins to have on a small debian homeserver?
04:20<Jarlaxe>twb: tdfsb works ! weird but funny !
04:20<Jarlaxe>twb: thx for this one ^^
04:21<twb>bittin: electricity
04:22<bittin>that i have as iam ircing from it :D
04:22<Jarlaxe>okaaay ... chmod 744 configure does not change its rights ... (neither u+x, 777 or any ...)
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04:28<Jarlaxe>ok i gonna contact the guy see if he has some tips. Thanks !
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04:30<jm_>what fs are you doing this on?
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04:31<Jarlaxe>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132896 : "This is very old. I tried compiling it, but it requires an older version of gtk." ah ... that's it
04:32<Jarlaxe>jm_: i try thunar, pcmanfm (but a bit buggy) and lately gnome manager
04:32<jm_>no I mean what file system is it unpacked on
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04:35<Jarlaxe>jm_: oups ! i did on a vfat exchanging part of course wrong ! thank you !
04:35<mitnick>anyone know how stop gdm?
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04:37<jm_>mitnick: it has an init script
04:37<jm_>but no, not anyone knows
04:37<mitnick>i need for install my nvidia drivers
04:37<mitnick>but i cant
04:38<mitnick>i am new on linux : /
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04:39<jm_>follow the docs http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
04:39<tuxuser>apt-get install envy-ng
04:39<tuxuser>if i am not mistaken
04:39<Jarlaxe>jm_: ooooh ! it works :-[ at least the ./configure : the gtk it has been said to be too old. That's settle down. But anyway, thank you for that !
04:40<jm_>Jarlaxe: which gtk does it need then?
04:42<Jarlaxe>jm_: checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.1... no
04:42<tuxuser>install gtk-1.2
04:42<Jarlaxe>i read treads on forum
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04:43<mitnick>how can know my kernel version?
04:44<jm_>mitnick: uname -r
04:44<jm_>Jarlaxe: you are probably missing libgtk1.2-dev
04:44<Jarlaxe>jm_: i'm checking gtk packages. I look for this one
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04:46<Jarlaxe>jm_: i got a uninstalled libgtk2.0-dev ...
04:46<jm_>Jarlaxe: you can have both installed at the same time
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04:47<Jarlaxe>jm_: so i try with this one
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04:48<Jarlaxe>jm_: but i do have a libgtk2.0 installed. What would be the diff with the '-dev' ? (never mind, i read the doc)
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04:49<Sherry2>Hi - have a question about resolv.conf
04:50<Sherry2>I am normally used to adding DNS servers manually in resolv.conf
04:50<Sherry2>but on a debian machine - I found the following in resolv.conf
04:50<Sherry2># Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
04:50<Sherry2># DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
04:50<Sherry2>I went through the docs for resolver - but it isn't clear
04:51<Sherry2>how do i add entries into resolv.conf?
04:51<jm_>Jarlaxe: they include headers and pkg-config stuff etc.
04:51<rpetre>put the nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces with dns-nameserver ip.add.re.ss
04:52<rpetre>it's a resolvconf(1) thing
04:52<Sherry2>thanks you rpetre
04:52<Sherry2>one more question
04:52<Jarlaxe>jm_: it does indeed install a lot of things
04:52<Sherry2>if I have 2 ISPs - one on eth0 & one on eth1
04:53<Sherry2>i put nameservers for both in /etc/network/interfaces
04:53<rpetre>put them on the right interface
04:53<Sherry2>wait
04:53<Sherry2>my quesiton isn't finished
04:53<Sherry2>:-)
04:53<rpetre>that way, whenerver you ifup/ifdown an interface, resolv.conf will add/remove the one that's needed
04:54<Sherry2>I have outgoing failover and/or loadbalancing configured as per lartc guidelines
04:54<rpetre>... or, uninstall resolvconf and do it the olf-fashoned way
04:55<Sherry2>now should my resolv.conf contain something like opendns which can be accessed through any ISP
04:55<Sherry2>or can I have ISP specific dns servers
04:55<Sherry2>i.e. will the right dns servers be contacted depending on whether traffic is going through ISP1 or ISP2
04:56<Sherry2>if I have 50% outgoing traffic going through eth0 & 50% going through eth1
04:57<Sherry2>what should I have in my resolv.conf
04:57<Sherry2>opendns kind of dns servers or ISP1 & ISP2's dns servers? any idea
04:57<Sherry2>this question isn't related to my earlier question about resolver
04:57<rpetre>personally i'd go for a local dns forwarder i can configure more specifically
04:58<rpetre>i wouldn't be confident the resolver would behave like i'd expect it to
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05:01<Jarlaxe>twb: navigate in tdfsb is not easy ^^
05:01<Sherry2>thanks, rpetre
05:02<mitnick>guys i am trying to stop my gdm when i use /etc/init.d/gdm stop i receive this : bash: /etc/init.d/gdm: No existe el fichero o el directorio
05:02<mitnick>: /
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05:03<Jarlaxe>mitnick: reinstall gdm ?
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05:09<jm_>mitnick: so you don't have gdm installer or you're not using debian
05:09<jm_>installed
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05:10<ZeroEnna>Hi @ all
05:13<ZeroEnna>I just want to ask a quick question concerning the newest release. I wanted to install Lenny 5.0.7 on a Dell PowerEdge R210. I know that there is a problem with the NICs installed on the server, because the PCI ID was unknown to Debian in version 5.0.4. However, The Bugs should be fixed with 5.0.5, but when I tried 5.0.7 (which I thought included the bug fix), the installer still refused to
05:13<ZeroEnna>install the right packages. Did I get it wrong, or is there still aproblem with it?
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05:14<ZeroEnna>I mean I thought the fireware debs are included, becuase they talked about "fixing the bug"
05:14<ZeroEnna>*firmware, I'm sorry
05:14<Jarlaxe> jm_: libgtk2.0-dev installed, but the issue keep the same (not the proper gtk version installed). I have to resume work now but i keep it to play. Thanks for your help
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05:20<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: Lenny's bnx2 driver was amended to support the BCM5716 at linux-2.6 2.6.26-22, but non-free firmware - not supplied by the official installer - is still required for device use ; /msg dpkg bnx2
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05:26<jm_>Jarlaxe: I told you that you have to install libgtk1.2-dev
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05:30<mitnick>firefox run well on debian?
05:30<petemc>its called iceweasel in debian, but sure
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05:40<kootoomootoo>I have installed squeeze on an old Dell C610 and I have just text console
05:41<kootoomootoo>How should I install xserver manually?
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05:42<mitnick>how can install new fonts on debian?
05:44<jm_>kootoomootoo: install xorg
05:45<kootoomootoo>without "gdm" ?
05:45<kootoomootoo>or anythin else
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05:48<nadir>if you want gdm you will need to install gdm too.
05:48<nadir>xorg is a meta-package to get X.
05:48<nadir>no window-manager, no login-manager, only X. Still a lot.
05:48<kootoomootoo>thk
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06:22<antivirys>hi al
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06:30<deavid>where can i find why some software isn't packaget yet in debian? i mean, those pages where are the package proposal, orphaned, etc...
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06:33<jm_>!wnpp
06:33<dpkg>For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp (refinable list at http://wnpp.debian.net/). Use wnpp-alert (from the <devscripts> package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help.
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07:16<EmleyMoor>What's the factoid for patching and rebuilding a package?
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07:23<ansgar>EmleyMoor: package rebuild
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07:27<beers>is debian squeeze til using ext3 on am64?
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07:29<jm_>that's merely a default
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07:33<Capitan_Findus>why the update of gnome-core tries to install a lot of unnecessary stuff?
07:34<dominick>Hi! I'm about to install squeeze in my new Connoiseur Classmate tablet PC. Is the tablet device driver present in squeeze? the device shows up as "Intel tablet sensor device" in windows.
07:34<Capitan_Findus>shouldn't be called "gnome-core" any more
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07:40<EmleyMoor>dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no orig.tar file found
07:40<EmleyMoor>Get that error when I patch part of a package and try to build. How do I sort it?
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07:47<humble>whats the backtrack channel guys ?
07:47<EmleyMoor>Er - #backtrack ?
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07:48<humble>noone in =-=
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07:49<jm_>!bt4
07:49<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
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07:57<EmleyMoor>dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no orig.tar file found
07:57<EmleyMoor>Get that error when I patch part of a package and try to build. How do I sort it?
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08:02<ansgar>EmleyMoor: How did you download the package? apt-get source should have downloaded the orig.tar.* file as well. And what did you change?
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08:04<EmleyMoor>ansgar: I did apt-get source... I changed the content of one of the .c files and the changelog
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08:07<ansgar>EmleyMoor: Did you change the upstream version in d/changelog? Then you would also need a new upstream tarball. You should only change the Debian revision (the part after the last "-"), e.g. by appending +local1 or such to the previous version.
08:09<EmleyMoor>I added +pmr-1 to the version
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08:10<ansgar>EmleyMoor: Then you changed the upstream version because you added a "-".
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08:31<dpkg>hello, dominick
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08:52<cristi>I have installed Network Manager in squeeze + network-manager-gnome but the applet isn't show in panel
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08:52<cristi>i need network manager 0.8.1 to manage a modem
08:54<ichdasich>cristi: type nm-applett or so (nm-<tab><tab>) in a terminal
08:54<cristi>I can\t believe
08:55<cristi>so easy
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08:55<cristi>'how to start on boot?
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08:55<ichdasich>cristi: should stay then (at least when you log out, while it is running)
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08:57<cristi>let see if my modem device work (in ubuntu notebok 10.10 did)
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09:12<cristi>ichdasic: thks, it works, after restart the applet is there, in panel, and the modem works, too
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09:40<dpkg>hello, dominick
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09:52<classical>hey ppl i have just find out that i have exim installed an running i install my debian via netinst
09:52<classical>i have checked only desktop and standart system
09:53<classical>does desktop needs exim for sending mails via client ?
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09:57<Honeyman>Hello. Anyone has an experience of using btrfs and/or nilfs on their primary computer successfully?
09:58<Honeyman>The experience of ssd-enabled laptops being regularly rebooted with hardware reset or due to complete power loss is especially interesting.
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10:01<ansgar>Honeyman: I use btrfs for / and /home on my netbook. It works quite well and survived several powerlosses already. (I don't store important data on it, at least not without a copy somewhere else.)
10:03<Honeyman>ansgar: Thanks. Occasionally, isn't than an SSD with "discard" option enabled?
10:03<ansgar>Honeyman: No, it a normal HDD.
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10:06<leocade>hi all. something is changing my background (i think its gnome but im not sure) how do i check? i want to use the xfce manager
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10:26<rpetre>if you mean you run squeeze with the default wallpaper and this week it changed, it's expected :)
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10:27<rpetre>desktop-base was upgraded to provide the squeeze theme (with the stars, rocket and planet)
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10:29<fossiiil>rpetre: nice theme, i like it
10:29<fossiiil>i must piss now
10:30<fossiiil>me and my wife do pissing activities many times a day, we love it
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10:33<Sydney>hello everyone...
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10:34<Sydney>I kindly ask if someone knows how to convert a swf into a mpg video in Debian (I'd need to show a BBC video stream, which actually uses flashplayer, at school...)
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10:39<little>I could be wrong, but I believe Pitivi can do that conversion for you.
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10:45<Sydney>I'm checking it...pitivi...
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10:46<Sydney>thanks little...
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10:47<waloo>hello, just dist-upgraded to squeeze on a box, how can I know if grub2 has been successfully installed or if it failed and fallback to grub-legacy ?
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10:48<inkbottle>I'd need to use the open source driver ar9170.fw. But I have no information on how to do that
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10:50<devil>inkbottle: that is ath9k and builtin in the kernel, so just works.
10:50<devil>inkbottle: at least since ~ 2.6.32 iirc
10:51<inkbottle>hi
10:51<devil>waloo: if you can cleanly boot into it, its fine, then you can run upgrade-from-grub-legacy
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10:52<devil>waloo: which will do the final step to grub2. until then its only chainloaded from old grub
10:53<jhutchins_lt>Sydney: Also look at mencoder.
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10:54<inkbottle>devil: but iwconfig say "irda0 no wireless extensions."; what should i have to do then?
10:55<waloo>devil: I'm far from the console; I don't if grub did boot cleanly
10:55<waloo>+know
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10:56<devil>waloo: if you rebooted and the system is functional, it worked :)
10:57<jhutchins_lt>inkbottle: What relase/kernel are you running?
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10:57<devil>inkbottle: irda0 is probably not your wireless device
10:57<Sydney>mencoder, jhutchins, thanks you too...hope to get something :)
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10:58<inkbottle>devil: 2.6.32-5-686
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10:58<jhutchins_lt>inkbottle: http://wiki.debian.org/ar9170usb
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11:00<jhutchins_lt>!ar9170 firmware
11:00<dpkg>Firmware for Atheros AR9170 devices is not currently packaged for Debian (BTS #558740). To acquire: "wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/mcgrof/firmware/ar9170/ar9170.fw", su and "mkdir /usr/local/lib/firmware && mv ar9170.fw /usr/local/lib/firmware".
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11:00<will>e.net
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11:00<waloo>devil: ok, all went fine, thanks
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11:01<devil>jhutchins_lt: ar9170 !=ath9k?
11:01<jhutchins_lt>devil: Correct.
11:02<devil>hm, then i waswrong
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11:03<inkbottle>jhutchins_lt: What i don't get (I read the bug), ar9170.fw, is supposed to be open-source; so why is it not in the kernel? Why do they say non-free? Are we speaking about the same driver?
11:03<inkbottle>because i'd rather use the open-source one
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11:11<mikegrb>http://groups.drupal.org/node/112294
11:11<mikegrb>er, sorry, wrong window
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11:17<sunpenghui>heello
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11:17<inkbottle>Does someone know whether ar9170.fw is open-source or not, and what do they mean in #558740?
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11:28<OsirisX>back in 2000, I remember I had to some ide-scsi emulation crap to get a cd writer to work - what do I have to configure in a kernel today to get my cd-writer to work?
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11:29<Torsten_W>you have nothing to configure
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11:29<Torsten_W>the debian kernel has no problems with optical writers
11:29<OsirisX>Torseten_W: I am compiling my own
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11:38<gsimmons>inkbottle: There is proprietary (official) and open firmware available for use with the ar9170usb driver. #558740 requested packaging of the former.
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11:51<savs>wondering if anyone feels like helping a poor lost soul...
11:51<@Ganneff>!ask
11:51<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:51<savs>have read all the available documentation, but can't find an easy way of building from source an entire repository
11:52<@Ganneff>you want to setup a buildd with a wanna-build behind it.
11:52<@Ganneff>which should have given you enough to google :)
11:52<savs>the catch being it's cross-compilation within scratchbox
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11:54<savs>anyone know how maemo used to handle this sort of thing?
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12:12<onclebob>my apt is broken, have literally tried everything http://pastebin.com/RXmAv9yE
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12:12<onclebob>am at a loss
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12:13<onclebob>am running squeeze on a dell dimension 9200 stationary
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12:16<musixuser>hi
12:16<musixuser>hello?
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12:16<musixuser>anybody there?
12:16<musixuser>hola?
12:17<onclebob>hi
12:17<srtu>just ask musixuser, and hope som1 could help
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12:17<jackyf>onclebob: what did you do before this error?
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12:18<amphi>onclebob: did you try d/l-ing libc-bin and installing it with dpkg, if apt-get won't install it?
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12:18<amphi>or aptitude
12:18<onclebob>added a repo, and it started to give me trouble
12:18<musixuser>hello
12:18<musixuser>i installed musix 2
12:18<musixuser>and ardour doesnt work
12:18<musixuser>it does not open when clicking
12:18<jackyf>onclebob: no, just adding a repo (which, btw?) won't cause the troubles
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12:19<Nemoder>onclebob: what you get from: dpkg-query -s libc-bin ?
12:19<jackyf>what did you install/upgrade/whatever?
12:19<musixuser>even having JACK open and oerative
12:19<musixuser>any help¿?
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12:20<jhutchins_lt>musixuser: First step is to launch it in a console and see what kind of feedback you get.
12:20<musixuser>ok
12:20<musixuser>I try and tell
12:20<onclebob>http://pastebin.com/Quw8fy5h
12:20<onclebob>tried installing unetbootin
12:20<onclebob>and shit started failing
12:21<onclebob>started with saying / was full, fixed that and all was good but then this happened
12:21<onclebob>Nemoder, http://pastebin.com/Quw8fy5h
12:22<Nemoder>onclebob: yeah i'm not sure how you managed to remove that package but you did :)
12:22<jhutchins_lt>onclebob: What repo did you add?
12:22<musixuser>to launch ardour in console is writting "run ardour"?
12:22<jhutchins_lt>onclebob: Care to pastebin your sources.list?
12:23<onclebob>jhujhiti, 1 sec
12:23<jhutchins_lt>musixuser: no need for "run".
12:23<onclebob>jhujhiti, http://pastebin.com/jQ04A4hf
12:23<musixuser>musixuser@musix:~$ ardour
12:24<musixuser>bash: ardour: command not found
12:24<musixuser>musixuser@musix:~$
12:24<musixuser>that is what it says
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12:24<Nemoder>onclebob: I would try as amphi suggested: dpkg -i libc-bin_2.11.2-7_i386.deb (either from /var/cache/apt/archives/ or download it)
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12:25<jhutchins_lt>musixuser: dpkt -L <packagename> will list the files it installed, it's probably in a "bin" directory. Alternatively you may be able to find what command is being called by the menu entry.
12:26<Nemoder>musixuser: might be ardour2
12:26<musixuser>musixuser@musix:~$ ardour2
12:26<musixuser>WARNING: Your system has a limit for maximum amount of locked memory!
12:26<musixuser> This might cause Ardour to run out of memory before your system runs
12:26<musixuser> out of memory. You can view the memory limit with 'ulimit -l', and it
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12:28<musixuser>no way
12:28<onclebob>Nemoder, now i get this http://pastebin.com/L1HnKDd6
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12:28<musixuser>theproblem is about locked memory
12:28<musixuser>what could i do?
12:29<Nemoder>onclebob: if you dont have libc6 installed you are better off reinstalling
12:30<onclebob>debian?
12:30<onclebob>Nemoder, a man
12:30<onclebob>ah man
12:31<jhutchins_lt>onclebob: Ah, there's your problem, experimental.
12:31<jhutchins_lt>Your experiment was a success, you found a way to break debian.
12:31<musixuser>the problem is about memory loked!
12:32<musixuser>locked
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12:32<musixuser>how can I unlock it?
12:32<onclebob>jhujhiti, do share
12:32<Gathond>technically not, it is about a limit for HOW much memory CAN potentially be locked
12:32<onclebob>should i remove them?
12:33<musixuser>I understand
12:33<musixuser>but i do not know how to access to the memory control
12:33<Gathond>that same ulimit program which can list it can be used to set it
12:33<musixuser>to change settings
12:34<musixuser>that information about memory appears when runing Ardour2 in terminal
12:34<jhutchins_lt>musixuser: Perhaps there is something about it in /usr/share/doc/ardour2/
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12:34<Gathond>ulimit -l x
12:34<onclebob>jhujhiti, ive already disabled but no effect
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12:34<Gathond>sets it to x fro that shell
12:35<Gathond>however you must be root to change that limit
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12:35<jhutchins_lt>onclebob: Not knowing wha you might have installed from there it's difficult to know where you should go from here. You didn't do a backup before installing from experimental, did you?
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12:35<onclebob>no
12:35<Gathond>alternatively you shoudl be able to edit /etc/security/limits.conf to raise the limit for that user or group
12:35<onclebob>jhujhiti, no
12:37<musixuser>but how do i enter in ect/security/limits.conf
12:37<musixuser>in terminal?
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12:41<onclebob>jhujhiti, what repos should i remove? now im getting http://pastebin.com/P0dqLGbR
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12:47<jhutchins_lt>You want to remove experimental and anything you installed from there.
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13:00<Mrafrohead>i'm about to upgrade 5.0 to 5.0.7...anything special I should know?
13:01<@Ganneff>topic, the very first
13:01<braccobaldo>hi everybody, i need some help, is there any italian user? thanks. If is not correct what i'm doing just tell...
13:01<@Ganneff>!it
13:01<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
13:01<Mrafrohead>yeah, i don't seem intelligent enough to query the bot
13:02<braccobaldo>@dpkg thanks
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13:06<srtu>@ Mrafrohead just type /msg dpkg 5.0.7
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13:06<srtu>or open a query window with dpkg and write 5.0.7
13:06<srtu>quite simple ;-)
13:06<Mrafrohead>srtu thank you. i did that. i guess hwat i'm looking for is the process to upgrade from 5.0 to 5.0.7
13:07<Mrafrohead>not finding much on debian.org
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13:08<srtu>if u update regulary/automaticaly, you dont have the think about the pointrls
13:08<srtu>guess you allready got lenny 5.0.7 allready
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13:09<Mrafrohead>gotcha
13:09<Mrafrohead>i do not believe that this box has been upgraded regularly.
13:09<srtu>just take a look at /etc/debian_version
13:10<Mrafrohead>thank you
13:10<Mrafrohead>was just googling that
13:10<Mrafrohead>lol
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13:10<Mrafrohead>hrm... guess I was wrong and it is current.
13:10<Mrafrohead>problem solved, thank you very much srtu that made things a heck of a lot easier.
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13:11<srtu>no problem, just debian basics ;-)
13:11*Mrafrohead is still learning
13:11<Mrafrohead>there's _a lot_ to go still
13:12<srtu>i am also yet a noob ;-)
13:12<srtu>the debian documents team make a great job
13:13<srtu>you can realy find good "books" about installing and running a debian system
13:13<Mrafrohead>yes, which i do intend to read.
13:13<srtu>maybe in youre native language too
13:13<Mrafrohead>this particular one...was a box I needed to get current as some asshat was trying to hack into it.
13:14<Mrafrohead>i'm thinking of setting up a debian box at home and actually learning it.
13:14<Mrafrohead>i use ubuntu...and am not impressed with the unity move. so I need to find something else.
13:15<srtu>thats the same thing i am doin, use a fileserver at home with debian since 3 yrs, this year i install a desktop system with ubuntu, but when squeeze is stable i switsch to debain also on the desktop
13:16<Mrafrohead>right on.
13:16<kop>srtu: You can use backports.debian.org (and volatile) along with debian stable to get some newer software.
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13:16<Mrafrohead>yeah, it was really funny. i have openbsd burned to disk. was going to throw that on my home server this weekend. i burned it last weekend.
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13:17<Mrafrohead>ironic timing that I waited till the next weekend.
13:17<Mrafrohead>good fun.
13:17*ppn
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13:18<kop>Mrafrohead: The openbsd docs are great but it's a lot harder to keep patched than debian. Not worth it except for firewalls/etc IMO.
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13:20<srtu>@kop yeah i know, but i buy a completly new computer, so guess i need a newer kernel than the one in lenny, and i am not advance enough to build my own or better i even don't try it, or are there kernel's in the backport too?
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13:23<Mrafrohead>kop yeah, was looking at it for a super secure server that I didn't have to touch very often... but...if news is right I don't want to play with that type of problem. and I don't code yet, so I can't audit it myself.
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13:23<Mrafrohead>srtu thnx again.
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13:23<Mrafrohead>ya'll take it easy.
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13:23<Mrafrohead>back to work.
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13:36<srtu>i am using tcp wrapper (hosts.allow / hosts.deny) does the logs of deny connection are in syslog?
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13:53<dan_>where am i how did i get in here -- no idea
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13:59<ibiri>hi
14:00<ibiri>is ther some body her
14:00<mase>no
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14:05<amphi>mase: it seems you were believed
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14:06<OsirisX>is there a way to stop gnome automounting a particular external usb HDD (identitified by UUID) - I manage it with autofs
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14:23<lYl>h1 all
14:23<lYl>plz help me to hack
14:23<lYl>site ?
14:26<mase>no
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14:28<lYl>plz ..
14:28<lYl>i am new bie plz ;)
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14:28<allien>#battle
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14:31<lYl>#hackers
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14:36<mjt>why does java installs hidden files in /etc -- /etc/.java/.systemPrefs/.systemRootModFile ?
14:37<mjt>(they're zero-length, but why hidden?)
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14:39<mase>mjt maybe it wants to behave same as in your homedirectory... but i don't really know
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14:41<eightyeight>mjt: it's only hidden from the standard 'ls' output. other than that, it's a perfectly acceptible filename
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14:41<mjt>not only ls, many tools are configured to omit dot-files by default
14:41<teq>ola
14:41<eightyeight>mjt: like?
14:42<teq>en q ??
14:42<teq>el q te gusta de mi
14:42<mjt>like many FileOpen GUI dialogs for example
14:42<mjt>like emacs dired mode
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14:42<teq>a ok
14:42<teq>hello
14:42<mjt>like samba
14:43<teq>oh yeah a like sambaç
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14:43<wissem>hi all
14:43<teq>hi alll!!!!!
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14:43<teq>i like pizza
14:44<eightyeight>mjt: and does it cause problems for any of thes programs? i.e.: unexpected operation?
14:44<teq>and you??
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14:44<teq>ł@@@@@
14:44<teq>@@@2@ł@łł@
14:44<mjt>.ignore teq
14:44<mase>mjt there is a "/etc/.java/.systemPrefs/" dir for example and a "/home/xxx/.java/.userPrefs/"; i think they just want to keep it consistent...
14:44<wissem>after updating my kernel from 2.6.26 to 2.6.32 ,the sound is not working i tried this http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Debian_Sound but still down :(
14:45<mase>wissem using pulseaudio? more info please...
14:45<teq>xqq
14:45<mjt>eightyeight: it causes unexplained/unexpected and hidden files to appear on the system. This is what I'm questioning.
14:46<teq>my questionin is yu76y,.‎
14:46<teq>feaaaa
14:46<teq>a
14:46<teq>a
14:46<teq>a
14:46<teq>a
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14:46<wissem>mase no its alsa ...
14:46<wissem>lspci | grep Audio
14:46<wissem>00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
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14:47<mase>wissem does alsamixer show any card?
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14:48<wissem>mase yes it does !!!
14:49<nodiscc>hi all, has anyone tried this?? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD
14:49<wissem>so ?
14:50<mase>wissem everything unmuted and volumed up? how do you try to play sound (what programm)?
14:50<nodiscc>I followed the (1. Getting Your Packages, Option 3) method, using germinate. Can't make the http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD/CustomDownload script work..
14:51<nodiscc>anyone have a better method?
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14:52<wissem>mase when i click the volume control on my panel(it s on mute) i get an error message showing me that gstreamerplugin is not installed
14:52<wissem>or i have a card configuration problem !
14:53<mase>wissem are you in group "audio"?
14:54<wissem>yes iam
14:54<mase>wissem and you dont have any sound-server (like pulseaudio) installed that could block the device?
14:55<wissem>no im pretty sure that i dont
14:55<wissem>it was working on my previous kernel thought
14:55<nodiscc>wissem I had the very same problem some time ago, installed gstreamer0.10-alsa (or whatever you're using), and set my soundcard as default in alsa-base.conf
14:56<nodiscc>don't know if it helps
14:56<nodiscc>it worked for me
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14:57<wissem>nodiscc, gstreamer0.10-alsa is already the newest version.
14:57<wissem> :(
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14:58<cahoot>wissem: try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0
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14:59<nodiscc>so do any of you know the best way to create a custom installer (custom packages lists, some preseed...)?
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14:59<pedza>hey
15:00<mase>wissem just mylast hint: "lsof /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p"
15:00<wissem>still its not working !
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15:01<pedza>what do you think about debian with kde?? is it any good?
15:01<mase>wissem (better "lsof /dev/snd/pcm*")
15:01<wissem>mase still nothing !
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15:02<wissem>mase: COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
15:02<wissem>totem 13541 wissem mem CHR 116,4 57127 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
15:02<wissem>totem 13541 wissem 21u CHR 116,4 57127 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
15:02<mase>wissem no output? i mean on console, after the command, what it is telling...
15:02<mase>wissem that shows totem is using the sound device
15:03<wissem>mase:COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
15:03<wissem>totem 13541 wissem mem CHR 116,4 57127 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
15:03<wissem>totem 13541 wissem 21u CHR 116,4 57127 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
15:03<wissem>any clues ?
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15:03<wissem>mase so ?
15:04<mase>wissem so your problem should not be that big; totem seems to be using the device
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15:08<mase>wissem at first step it should work (ignoring what the panel applet is telling) by manually changing the volume with alsamixer; totem is not complaining, right?
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15:16<Samm>Do someone know Steffen Moeller Mail?
15:17<mase>his email address?
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15:27<pedza>HEY
15:28<pedza>does the debian squeeze beta kde come with kde 3.5 or 4.x?
15:28<bahamat>pedza: check packages.debian.org
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15:29<pedza>4.5 yaay
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17:11<inkbottle>I've configured a wifi-usb device (dwa-160, ar9170usb); it did work. On time though. here is a part of dmesg: http://pastebin.com/FJbxzCqT
17:11<soco>hello everyone
17:11<inkbottle>wlan0 is intel, wlan1 is atheros.
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17:11<inkbottle>it is the dhclient part that doesn't work
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17:15<soco> I got Epiphany 2.3 web browser too slow, and the "about:config" option does't show anything.there are another way to speed up epiphany?
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17:17<theodore>hello hello
17:18<ompaul>soco: have you disabled ipv6?
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17:19<soco>ompaul, I try to, but, I don't know how
17:19<ompaul>!noipv6
17:19<dpkg>[noipv6] To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader.
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17:20<soco>ompaul, ok tanks
17:21<ompaul>soco: hopefully it helps
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17:27<soco>ompaul, how do I access to th "kernel command line option"?
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17:28<ompaul>soco: as you reboot the first thing to do is to test so you add that in to the grub settings by pressing esc and editing the boot options if that works tell us and we'll tell you how to make it a full time fix
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17:30<soco>ompaul, ok thanks anyway.
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17:45<soco>ompaul, thanks!! now epiphany works great ;-)
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17:45<ompaul>soco: so what version of grub are you using?
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17:46<soco>ompaul, I think is the version 2 , with debian squezze
17:49<ompaul>soco: I'm trying to find a useful link, my knowledge of grub2 is very limited
17:49<soco>om
17:49<ompaul>soco: grub2 and grub have very little in common :)
17:50<soco>ompaul, yes I know, with the legacy grub all was easy
17:50<ompaul>rather simple :)
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17:51<soco>ok gotta go
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17:51<soco>ompaul, thanks for everything
17:52<soco>good night , bye
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17:52<ompaul>soco: bookmark http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
17:52<ompaul>ohh
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18:07<retrospectacus>!qotd0
18:07<dpkg><bart_> seanius, only 4 people at #C++ <seanius> try another network then <bart_> network? <bart_> IRC is the biggest isn't it?
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18:52<s3a>Would anyone know why chrooting and doing update-grub does not solve my issue of booting from my linux OS instead of windows 7?
18:52<s3a>(using lvm2, squeeze, grub2)
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18:52<s3a>booting goes directly to windows
18:53<s3a>still
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18:56<LotR>s3a: where did you tell grub to install itself?
18:56<s3a>not sure but based on how i think i'd put it on the drive where linux is installed
18:56<valianholt>Good day debianers
18:56<valianholt>I would like to ask, is there anyone from Canada?
18:57<s3a>valianholt, me
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18:59*retrospectacus is also Canadian
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19:01<s3a>LotR, Here is the update-grub output when chrooting: http://pastebin.com/zHVtCx3R
19:02<s3a>LotR, i think it only finds win7
19:04<chaos>if i create an lvm2 volume and one of the partitions / disks dies can i still read the rest?
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19:08<mib_jpmxgq>hello everyone. I was wondering if someone could help me find checksum information on the Debian CDs. I looked all over the debian.org site and couldn't find it.
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19:19<Ionic>Hey all. Do you know how to switch from targeted kernel mode to the generic one?
19:19<Ionic>(That is, targeted install)
19:20<gsimmons>dpkg: targeted
19:20<dpkg>The targeted/generic modules choice made during Debian installation (Lenny and later releases) can be changed post-install by modifying the MODULES variable in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/driver-policy: MODULES=most (aka "generic", the default), MODULES=dep (aka "targeted"). See also initramfs.conf(5), update-initramfs(8), <initramfs>, <initrd>.
19:20<Ionic>Ah thanks :)
19:21-!-s3a [~ubuntu@ip216-239-82-182.vif.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:21<Ionic>That's it, yeah
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19:23<Khaatio>hi all
19:23<Khaatio>hello?
19:23<Khaatio>nobody here?
19:24<retrospectacus>nop
19:26<manphiz>apinski: go failed again, and by -Werror even I already have --disable-werror. Any ideas?
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19:26<manphiz>Oops, sorry, wrong channel I guess...
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19:35<drew>Is this the help room?
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19:36<Khaatio>i cant help you
19:37<cthuluh>!ask drew
19:37<cthuluh>!ask
19:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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19:55<acu>does anyone knows how to add different languages to debian squeeze (e.g. arabic ?)
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19:57<cthuluh>dpkg: tell acu -about locales
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20:13<chomwitt>after installing squeeze beta ok , 1 to 3 times kernel will stop booting with messages (among backtraces) like BUG:Softlockup, ...[khubd.s] or BUG: Unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffffffff
20:14<Khaatio>squeez
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20:18<schiros>is there a list of the non-free kernel parts of the kernel that will be excluded from the squeeze release?
20:21<Khaatio>squeeze is free
20:22<schiros>right
20:22<schiros>so what's being excluded from squeeze that wasn't excluded from lenny and etch
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21:23<bepraaa>Hi guys, looking for help with python on lenny.
21:23<bepraaa>I don't have any select module.
21:23<bepraaa>What's up with that?
21:24<bepraaa>Python 2.5.x should have a select module, but I can't import it (ImportError).
21:24<bepraaa>Can't find anything on the net; been looking for 30 minutes.
21:25<sney>bepraaa: if you know the name of the file you're looking for (select.pym?) you can find the correct package with apt-file
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21:25<bepraaa>It should be built-in.
21:25<bepraaa>And it would be select.pyc.
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21:27<levo>irc.dextroverse.org
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21:29<bepraaa>sney: apt-file can't find anything...
21:29<bepraaa>Come on, 412 people and no one can help?
21:30<bepraaa>Does anyone else have/not have a select module?
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21:32<bepraaa>Well I hate to admit it, but I had a file named "select" in the dir I was working in.
21:32<bepraaa>Removed that, everything was fine.
21:32<bepraaa>!stupid bepraaa
21:32<bepraaa>?stupid bepraaa
21:32<bepraaa>Where's the bot?
21:32<bepraaa>Oh well, peace guys.
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22:02<Khaatio>konichiwa
22:02<Khaatio>watashi from japan
22:02<cockroach>hi!
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22:21<gabo>what a quiet chat room xD
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22:21<mitnick>hello
22:21<gabo>hi
22:21<mitnick>testing squeeze is very nice
22:21<gabo>yes
22:21<gabo>but there are a few things that i dont like
22:21<mitnick>i am new onlinux only i was tested ubuntu(sorry my english is no well)
22:22<gabo>like the "aplication use form"
22:22<mitnick>sinaptyc?
22:22<mitnick>what you mean?
22:22<gabo>what u mean?
22:23<mitnick> like the "aplication use form"
22:23<gabo>when u do a right click
22:23<gabo>on something
22:23<gabo>you can choose an aplication to run with
22:23<gabo>the open with
22:23<mitnick>ohh i see
22:23<gabo>if u choose other aplication
22:24<gabo>the system starts to load all aplications and
22:24<mitnick>well i am new on debian , i cant compare with other versions
22:25<mitnick>i understand
22:25<mitnick>you can fix ?
22:25<gabo>i heard about a few aplication that modify this
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22:31<mitnick>what is the name of this aplication
22:32<mitnick>gabo
22:32<gabo>not sure
22:32<gabo>i dont remenber
22:32<gabo>let me check
22:32<mitnick>ok
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22:37<gabo>i cant find the names
22:38<gabo>i dont remember now
22:38<mitnick>ok np
22:38<gabo>if you find any aplication to change this let me know
22:38<gabo>i really hate this xD
22:39<mitnick>ok
22:39<mitnick>but
22:39<mitnick>i dont understand complete hat you mean
22:39<mitnick>where can see the programs loaded on start what you say?
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22:40<gabo>do you speak another idiom?
22:40<mitnick>spanish
22:40<gabo>Perfeceto
22:40<gabo>Perfecto
22:41<mitnick>y tu?
22:41<gabo>Viste cuando le haces click derecho a un archivo por ejemplo
22:41<mitnick>a ver
22:41<mitnick>no tengo ningunojajaja
22:41<gabo>Te dice: abrir con >> otra aplicacion
22:41<gabo>cualquier cosa
22:41<mitnick>espera creare un txto
22:41<gabo>no importa
22:41<gabo>un archivo de texto cualquier cosa
22:41<gabo>ok
22:42<mitnick>si lo veo
22:42<gabo>hace click en otra aplicacion
22:42<gabo>y espera a q las cargue
22:42<mitnick>si sale la lista
22:42<mitnick>me carg rapido
22:42<gabo>en serio?
22:42<mitnick>sep
22:42<gabo>a mi me tarda una eternidad
22:42<mitnick>pero tengo una maquinaza de notebook
22:43<mitnick>un asus g51j
22:43<mitnick>i7 6gigas e ram...
22:43<mitnick>no se como andara en otros pcs
22:43<mitnick>quizas lento
22:43<gabo>no creo q sea eso
22:43<mitnick>ademas que no tengo muchas cosas instaldas
22:43<mitnick>si recien lo formatee
22:43<gabo>mira parece q lo arreglaron
22:43<gabo>q bueno
22:44<mitnick>me carga en aprox
22:44<gabo>te juro q se te trababa el menu
22:44<mitnick>medio segundo
22:44<mitnick>o menos
22:44<gabo>q bueno
22:44<mitnick>es casi instantaneo
22:44<gabo>sisi
22:44<gabo>totalmente
22:44<mitnick>antes decias que era lento?
22:44<gabo>si MAL
22:44<gabo>tarbara un año
22:44<gabo>y ensima
22:44<gabo>se trababa la ventana
22:45<dondelelcaro>!es
22:45<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
22:45<gabo>okok sorry
22:45<mitnick>enter on es gabo
22:46<gabo>enter on?
22:46<gabo>what u mean?
22:46<mitnick>yes
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22:46<mitnick>debian-es
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22:47<dondelelcaro>ah, sorry; missed the first part of the conversation. But yeah, #debian-es is the ideal place. ;-)
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23:01<jester45>my x.org is using 11%-12% continuously. im running 64bit squeeze nvidia driver version 195.36.31 on a gtx260 with DRI enabled. the only windows open are xchat and xterm(running htop). my Xorg.0.log has these lines as warnings but no errors http://paste.debian.net/102585/
23:02<gabo>a friend had that problem
23:02<jester45>any ideas on why this is happening or how i can go about fixing it
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23:02<gabo>but a few days ago saw
23:02<gabo>that the computer was working a 800MHZ xD
23:02<gabo>check that
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23:06<jester45>nope its not underclocked
23:08<jester45>AMD 1055t so dont think xorg needs that much.
23:08<gabo>MHZ?
23:08<jester45>its clocked at 3ghz, 6 cores
23:09<gabo>....
23:09<gabo>weird
23:09<jester45>top is showing 43-45% system cpu usage
23:09<gabo>gnome ver?
23:09<jester45>using openbox
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23:10<gabo>isnt that beta?
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23:13<jester45>no im using 3.4, its a stable release
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23:17<gabo>not sure then
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23:18<gabo>try using metacity
23:18<jester45>hehe ill live with high cpu usage :)
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23:19<Tremolo>Ouch
23:20<jester45>thanks for trying
23:21<gabo>anytime
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23:24<nickg>I am trying to fill out a bug report to file the installation-report when the report brings up nano and wants the partitioning information the following information is in the file should I type in the commands in the file or just leave it here is what the line says Partitions: <df -Tl will do; the raw partition table is preferred>
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23:27<mitnick>anyone can say me how uninstall nouveau drivers , aptitude purge nouveau ?
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23:29<Tremolo>You'll want xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, rather than nouveau.
23:29<mitnick>how can uninstall?
23:30<mitnick>pls write me the sentences
23:30<Tremolo>"aptitude remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" should do
23:30<gabo>try appt-get remove
23:30<gabo>first
23:31<mitnick>rgr
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23:58<mitnick>what can i do to stop gdm /etc/init.d/gdm stop dont work for me
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