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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-12-21

---Logopened Tue Dec 21 00:00:17 2010
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01:00<dodger>howdy; when packages from security get updated, which get updated first, the source or binary packages?
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01:05<twb>Yes.
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01:05<twb>If it operates anything like the normal upload workflow, the DD uploads a binary and a source package, and binary packages for *other* architectures are then generated.
01:07<dodger>ah ok.
01:07<dodger>so both then get fixed
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02:29<filex>hi all
02:30<filex>I have a REAL strange effect on my lenny box - and I'm totally clueless...
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02:31<twb>filex: it helps to describe the problem
02:31<filex>^^ I'm about to... ;)
02:32<filex>well, first dovecot created some uidlist files it couldnt read anymore
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02:32<filex>then, apache php created session files with arbitrary permissions
02:32<filex>that lead me to test what happened
02:33<filex>when i do: "touch testfile", permissions are 004
02:33<twb>umask
02:33<filex>however, umask given me 0022
02:34<filex>i dont get it
02:34<twb>Me either
02:35<filex>i already thought i might have been hacked...
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02:35<filex>since its a root server
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02:35<filex>but i dont see anything suspicious
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02:36<filex>for all users and processes, it seems that umask is wrong
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02:38<filex>filex@www:~/testdir$ touch test
02:38<filex>filex@www:~/testdir$ ls -al
02:38<filex>total 8
02:38<filex>drwxr-xr-x 2 filex filex 4096 Dec 21 08:37 .
02:38<filex>drwxr-xr-x 28 filex filex 4096 Dec 21 08:37 ..
02:38<filex>-------r-- 1 filex filex 0 Dec 21 08:37 test
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02:39<filex>filex@www:~/testdir$ umask
02:39<filex>0022
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02:48<twb>I want syslog traffic to be encrypted over the wire
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02:48<twb>My guess is this means rsyslog-gnutls, but (unliky rsyslog-relp), it's not obvious how to do it from rsyslog.conf(5) manpage
02:49<twb>Hum, random googling says $DefaultNetstreamDriver gtls
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03:11<Roofus901>ahoy thar
03:11<Roofus901>anyone awake?
03:12<twb>!tell Roofus901 about anybody
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03:13<Roofus901>lol
03:13<Roofus901>thx
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03:13<Roofus901>anyone here use the alteriwnet patch with codmw2 in wine?
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03:14<Roofus901>on there site it says i need .net 3.5 framework
03:14<Roofus901>is there a possible sub for this? or will 3.5 work in wine?
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03:15<twb>Sorry, I don't support wine.
03:15<twb>You could try the #wine channel on Freenode.
03:16<twb>Sorry, #winehq
03:17<Roofus901>gotcha thx
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03:41<Roofus901>hurray, turns out google is my friend :-p
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03:42<Odin>1 step forward, 2 steps back
03:43<twb>Odin: optimist
03:43<Odin>eventually i will complete the track backwards
03:43<twb>Odin: then you hear the Beatles telling you to kill your parents, right?
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03:43<Odin>i hear the beatles telling me to take a break and refuel
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03:45<twb>Odin: you're IRCing while driving?
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03:45<xayon>don't irc while you drive! lol
03:46<Roofus901>lol
03:46<Roofus901>wow
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03:46<Roofus901>i can hear the news report on this one already lol
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03:47<xayon>Roofus901: loool, "Driver found dead with her computer connected to #debian irc channel, while they were speacking about his dead because of that" --> too much recursive?
03:49<twb>More like "terrorist plot to demolish highway prevented due to proactive nic.mil netsplitting"
03:49<Roofus901>hahahaha
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03:50<xayon>jajaja
03:50<Roofus901>well, i'm happy to announce i'm |--| this close to removing my winblows partition for good
03:51<Roofus901>the 1 thing that is keeping me on there from time to time is a few games
03:51<Roofus901>speaking of, does linux have any good games?
03:51<Roofus901>i'm a codmw2 fan myself, any recommendations?
03:52<twb>Hunt the Wocket
03:52<xayon>Roofus901: lots, look for example linuxgames.com
03:52<twb>Er, Hunt the Wumpus
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03:54<Roofus901>oh wow
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03:54<Roofus901>i had no idea, linux has some sick looking games ^_^
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03:54<twb>Bah. If you want pictures, go look at the idiot box.
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03:57<twb>Note that "for linux" rarely means "DFSG-compliant".
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04:05<OsirisX>Roofus901: buy a PS3!
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04:06<OsirisX>cod experience on a 50" tv is much better than on a pc monitor
04:07<bart_>Hi guys, I'm running a squeeze with Xen (4.0.1), which should have the Remus package
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04:07<bart_>Remus package is nowhere to be found though, any ideas on where to look?
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04:08<Roofus901>OsirisX: i got one lol
04:08<Roofus901>anyway, i'm off to bed, g'nite all
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04:13<twb>PS3's aren't DFSG--compliant, either
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04:14<twb>bart_: that would depend on whether anyone has packaged it for Debian.
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04:15<twb>bart_: I cannot see any package, so I suggest you file a Request For Package bug.
04:15<twb>dpkg: tell bart_ about rfp
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04:16<twb>(Personally I think Xen is gonna lose to KVM and LXC, but whatever.)
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04:49<bart_>twb: Thanks, but as far as I could see in the remus documentation, remus is a part of the xen 4.0.1 xen release. Would this require a seperate package?
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04:55<twb>bart_: I dunno
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05:13<amitz>what's a recommended fs for backup? There are 2 types of backup I'm aware of, rsnapshot file where it keeps all the file as it is, and duplicity type where it consolidates backup into large volumes. I'm concern about reliability (when backup process crashed) and speed (create and restore operation) .
05:13<amitz>I thought ext2 should be perfect but it is surprisingly slow, no comparions to a baseline though.
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05:17<twb>amitz: tar
05:17<twb>Or cpio or squashfs, if you have random-access media
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05:18<mjt>well, i'd say ext4 instead, and rsync.
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05:19<amitz>tar and cpio doesn't seem to support incremental backup
05:19<amitz>ext4, hmm
05:20<twb>amitz: yes, they do.
05:20<jm_>indeed they do
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05:20<twb>They don't allow you to delete older archives without invalidating the current increment, unlike rsnapshot's cp -al + rsync approach.
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05:21<amitz>processing
05:22<twb>I have had non-negligible success with both rsync+cp -al (via rsnapshot) and rsync+zfs snapshotting (on osol9).
05:22<twb>I would *like* to use squashfs for archival purposes, but I've yet to do so in production.
05:22<amitz>will the fs: ext4 help or it will be unnecessary overhead, with journal and all.
05:23<twb>Note that mksquashfs' block-dedupping effectively gives you block-level equivalent of cp -al's file-level incrementality
05:23<amitz>I may be pushing my knowledge here, squashfs is the fs, right?
05:23<twb>amitz: if you're using rotating media and you do not have a UPS, you ALWAYS want a journal. In other circumstances, you still usually want a journal :-)
05:24<twb>squashfs is a read-only filesystem, like iso9660.
05:24<vtts>amitz, how about NILFS2 ?
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05:24<twb>vtts: is a log-structured filesystem appropriate for backups?
05:25<vtts>depends on how do you backup
05:25<vtts>making i snapshot is one way to do that
05:25<twb>vtts: I guess I'd be interested to read a proof-of-concept design for that
05:25<amitz>wikipedia says it's pretty cool :-o
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05:25<twb>amitz: "cool" is the opposite of "production ready"
05:25<amitz>that too..
05:26<twb>Flipping rsyslog doesn't do TLS as well as I'd like :-/
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05:27<twb>Why does crypto have to be so difficult
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05:31<amitz>oh, I thought after backing up I can run verify anyway? So I don't have to have to a journal in the fs of my backup?
05:32<amitz>s/to a/a/
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05:40<sander_m>Hi. I'm trying to integrate a Squeeze machine into our Windows network. What is the recommended way to mount home directories from our domain controller when a user logs in?
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07:14<OsirisX1>Ok sexy people, how do I change the permissions and owner/group config on usb external hd - automounted by udev?
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07:14<jm_>you really automount it by udev script?
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07:15<OsirisX1>jm_ isn't that what debian does now as standard?
07:15<jm_>OsirisX1: no
07:15<OsirisX1>jm_: ok then I am barking up the wrong tree. what is doing the auto-mounting?
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07:17<jm_>OsirisX1: probably gnome-volume-manager or somesuch
07:18<OsirisX1>jm_: hmmm ok. but udev is triggering g-v-m into action right?
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07:18<jm_>OsirisX1: it probably starts there yes
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07:19<OsirisX1>jm_: ok so does anyone know how to set-up customised mount permissions / owners etc for drives mounted by g-v-m (either for specific volumes by uuid or by fstype)
07:19<jm_>!automount
07:19<dpkg>If you're running one of the desktop environments in Debian, then ask me about <gnome-volume-manager>, <kde automount>, or <thunar-volman>. If you want something for the command line, then ask me about <halevt>, <ivman> or <usb mount>. For a completely different approach to automounting, ask me about <autofs>.
07:20<OsirisX1>!gnome-volume-manager
07:20<dpkg>it has been said that gnome-volume-manager is a package for gnome users that will automount removable volumes. aptitude install gnome-volume-manager pmount ; adduser username plugdev ; you will have to log out and back in before it works or ask me about <gnome>, <pmount>, <automount>
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07:23<OsirisX1>jm_: is there one solution that covers console-space and GUI-space? (like NetworkManager)
07:25<rpetre>you mean _unlike_ nm :)
07:25<jm_>OsirisX1: I use autofs
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07:25<tt>Is there any Chinese chatroom?
07:25<petemc>!cn
07:25<dpkg>from memory, cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
07:27<OsirisX1>jm_: ok - doesn't that have problems if you try to access a "not yet mounted" drive through (for example) an open file dialog box for a gui program? (i.e no read has taken place do autofs has not mounted yet)
07:28<jm_>OsirisX1: what do you mean? I can test it here
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07:29<OsirisX1>jm_: let the timeout expire on autofs enabled mount point so it unmounts
07:29<OsirisX1>jm_: then use a gui program like gimp and try to open a file on that mount point
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07:29<OsirisX1>jm_: my understanding is that autofs does not detect it as a "read" and so does not mount it
07:29<OsirisX1>jm_: and you end up browsing an empty dir
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07:31<jm_>OsirisX1: works just fine, why do you think GUI tools are special in this regard?
07:33<OsirisX1>jm_: it was something I read during my research - maybe it was out-dated - OK I will try autofs. How did you de-activate g-v-m?
07:35<jm_>OsirisX1: by not running gnome :)))
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07:36<OsirisX1>jm_: LOL - I see I am going to have some challenges
07:36<jm_>OsirisX1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/disable-linux-unix-gnome-automounting/
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07:37<jm_>OsirisX1: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30501
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07:38<OsirisX1>jm_ cheers!
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07:55<OsirisX1>jm_: exactly how did you navigate to mount point in your GUI if it didn't exist?
07:57<jm_>OsirisX1: right, I see what you wanted to test now, autofs mounts stuff in /var/autofs/misc/, but I never use that dir; instead, I have a symlink: /mnt/usb -> /var/autofs/misc/usb and use that one to access it
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07:59<OsirisX1>jm_: ahaaa! clever
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08:31<OsirisX1>when I mount an external usb with ntfs-3g and gid=50 (staff group). I get the following warning : Warning : using problematic uid==0 and gid!=0
08:31<OsirisX1>Does anyone know what problems this could be referring to?
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08:36<OsirisX1>on another note: can someone tell me what the permissions on their /media/cdrom0 (Debian Squeeze) directory are?
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08:38<rpetre>OsirisX1: 755, root:root
08:39<houms>good day all, I used tinyca2 to create certs and keys. I just want to know how I go about exporting the diffie-hellman parameters?
08:39<OsirisX1>cheers rpetre
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08:47<houms>can anyone tell me where i may be able to find this info?
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08:50<rpetre>houms: iirc tinyca is just a wrapper for openssl, you could go and "openssl dhparam" over the files
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08:51<houms>thanks for that answer rpetre. if i have already created my CA cert and server and client certs and keys with tinyca2, how do i ensure the dhparam is related to the existing certs/keys?
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08:51<Dark_Night>salve
08:52<houms>currently in the ~/.TinyCA dir
08:52<houms>ran openssl dhparam -2 -out dh-parameters.pem 4096
08:52<houms>does that look right rpetre?
08:52<Dark_Night>italian channel? :O
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08:55<houms>?
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08:56<OsirisX1>jm_: I have setup autofs. it works! and icon even pops up on my desktop (presumably because I created the symlink in /media)
08:56<jm_>OsirisX1: hehe, cool
08:57<rpetre>houms: sorry, i'm not too familiar with this particular openssl command, the idea is that i'd look where tinyca saves its files and try to parse those if the interface in not helpful
08:57<Dark_Night>rpetre italian helper?
08:57<Dark_Night>:O
08:57<jm_>!it
08:57<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
08:57<OsirisX1>jm_: however when it unmounts, it mounts again immediately and gets stuck in a loop. Any ideas as to what might be causing this?
08:57<Dark_Night>jm_ thx
08:58<jm_>OsirisX1: maybe some app is polling the stuff in /media?
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08:59<OsirisX1>jm_: hmmmm
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09:03<rpetre>try fuser -m
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09:04<rpetre>i'd suspect some hal-related process
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09:19<ph0n7r1c>hi guys
09:19<ph0n7r1c>can some tell me how i can creat vitual interface
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09:20<s4br3>i, what is the best way to check if one's one month CD/DVD-combo-burner is broken or not. I heard that the DVD and CD have different lasers. Is there a Debain way to check if it is broken?!
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09:20<petemc>ph0n7r1c: you can create an aliased interface of eth0 by adding an entry for eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces
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09:21<ph0n7r1c>do you have link
09:22<petemc>no
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09:25<houms>does the diffie-hellman parameters have to be the same bit length as the certs and keys themselves?
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09:28<OsirisX>jm_: it appears that I don't have gnome-volume-manager installed! so disabling it was as useful as a chocolate teapot - any other ideas what could be automounting in gnome?
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09:29<gob_bluth>can anybody help me as to why this is not working?:
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09:29<gob_bluth>http://pastebin.com/rz9KGD8b
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09:30<gob_bluth> if [ -z ${OUT} ]; then --> too many arguments ?
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09:31<rpetre>gob_bluth: [ -z "$OUT" ]
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09:32<rpetre>if $OUT has a space in it, it's not quoted and bash sees multiple words
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09:35<OsirisX>gob_bluth: I'm not sure you even need the -z test : (null and defined) maybe better use -n or just the string on it's own and reverse the then ... else arguments
09:35<gob_bluth>yeah i'mtrying == now
09:35<gob_bluth>wished nagios-nrpe acme with a 'status' check :(
09:36<OsirisX>gob_bluth are you writing this to amend the init script?
09:36<gob_bluth>yeah
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09:36<OsirisX>gob_bluth, doesn't it create a PID file in /var/run?
09:37<gob_bluth>ahh it does
09:38<OsirisX>gob_bluth: to be complete, I would test the PID file and check for running process with the pid - then I would use something like
09:38<OsirisX>gob_bluth :
09:38<OsirisX>gob_bluth: pid=`pgrep -f '*nrpe*'
09:39<OsirisX>gob_bluth and test pid for being non-null - so you can then Kill -9 $pid if necessary
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09:40<OsirisX>gob_bluth: I suggest you expand *nrpe* to match as closely as possible the command line that is being run
09:40<gob_bluth>hmm
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09:41<gob_bluth>thnx
09:41<OsirisX>gob_bluth: yw
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09:42<OsirisX>gob_bluth: this way you can clean up the pid file and or kill the process as necessary too if you are unable to do it with start-stop-daemon
09:43<OsirisX>anybody know what is automounting my drive in gnome - I have not installed gnome-volume-manager, hal, halevt or usb mount!
09:44<houms>anyone know how long a diffie-hellman parameter should take to build using 4096 bit length?
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09:55<mjt>OsirisX: it's now done by any file manager with a help of consolekit
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09:56<OsirisX>mjt: it's ok I solved my problem. I put an entry for the drive in /etc/fstab so that it won't automount in gnome - now I can use autofs for this drive
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10:40<deryck>hello, i'm tryin to put a debian install on an usb pendrive, but the problem is that when i use the tutorial (that is made for netinst or business card), the "boot.img.gz" that i zcat to my device creates a too little partition so i can't coppy the full cd iso to it. Do you have any tips?
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10:50<dvs>deryck: create a second ext3 partition
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10:55<cmot>Hmmm. I just replaced my eth0 by a br0 via /etc/network/interfaces.
10:56<cmot>before, eth0 had a "scope global" ipv6 address (automatically configured, no dhcp6)
10:56<cmot>now br0 doesn't have one, only the link local
10:56<cmot>I followed http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking#Debian.2FUbuntu_Bridging
10:56<cmot>any hints?
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10:57<ph0n7r1c>can a virtual interface have its own mac address
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10:58<cmot>http://paste.debian.net/102934/ is /etc/network/interfaces
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10:59<ph0n7r1c>i am using ubuntu
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11:00<cmot>toggling spanning tree doesn't make a difference
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11:02<cmot>or is it that neighbourhood is just swalloed before the bridge comes online? can I trigger ip6 autoconfiguration manuall
11:02<cmot>y
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11:05<cmot>Hmmm. calling rdisc6 manually works, so this might be the cause...
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11:16<fabin>algum brazuka por ai?
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11:27<derek>chitty:pass
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11:40<nsdy>有没有说中文的兄弟?
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12:14<ZeroEnna>Hi @ all
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12:19<ZeroEnna>I have a little problem with my server. I created a RAID 1 Array on a Dell R210. I could install Debian on that RAID, however, it failed to boot from it. The RAID is a LSI SAS 2008, which imho is in the mpt2sas or megaraid driver package
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12:20<ZeroEnna>but the real problem is: The packageversion I need is in Kernel 2.6.33, but the netinstall comes with 2.6.26....
12:20<ZeroEnna>what to do?
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12:20<sney>2.6.33? not available in .32?
12:20<ZeroEnna>or was it .32
12:20<ZeroEnna>i guess you're right
12:20<sney>if it's .32 you have options
12:21<sney>oh what was that other installer called
12:21<ZeroEnna>Debian netinstall
12:21<sney>here it is
12:21<ZeroEnna>I only install the packages I need for a basic system
12:21<sney>http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
12:21<sney>kmuto installer. it's debian stable but with a newer backported kernel.
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12:22<ZeroEnna>do you have any experience with this, can this be used on a productive system?
12:22<sney>yes, the only difference is the kernel, and many people are running the backport 2.6.32 in production environments
12:23<ZeroEnna>okay, I'll try
12:23<ZeroEnna>thank you ^_^
12:24<sney>no problem
12:24<ZeroEnna>oh one more thing
12:25<ZeroEnna>my nic requires the bnx2 firmware package, that's fine for me, but is the kernel patch included in .32?
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12:25<sney>should be, they don't usually take things out
12:26<sney>looks like it's still in
12:26<ZeroEnna>thank you
12:26<ZeroEnna>I'll definitly try it at once ^_^
12:27<sney>good luck
12:28<cthuluh>ZeroEnna: we have a bow running with the backports kernel, the bnx2 driver and (sic) firmware
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12:43<ZeroEnna>eh... just a quick thing: When I replace my boot.iso with your boot.img, I just get the message "GRUB GRUB GRUB..." and so on
12:43<ZeroEnna>so I have to copy the img via dd?
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12:55<ZeroEnna>man, I can't even read.. there is written USB IMAGE... ANd I just copy that file to an USB with syslinux prep-ed...
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12:59<newb>Hello! I need some help to install the kernel 2.6.37 on my debian
12:59<newb>I have a bug here and I need test if 2.6.37 solves it
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12:59<retrospectacus>why are you doing that
12:59<ZeroEnna>is 2.6.37 stable already?
13:00<retrospectacus>,kernels
13:00<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-rc5-686 (2.6.37~rc5-1~experimental.3); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-29~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
13:00<retrospectacus>,kernels --arch amd64
13:00<judd>(kernels [--release <lenny>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases.
13:00<newb>I have a netbook consuming a lot of memory, the same problem I saw in a bug opened at debian bugs. The solution there was test the 2.6.37 version
13:00<newb>or report at kernel bugzilla
13:00<retrospectacus>:\
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13:02<jordanm>newb: which b ug?
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13:04<newb>This here ( I will find here the post at debian bugs ): http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547973
13:04<newb>but they are the same bug
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13:06<jordanm>newb: what version of debian are you running?
13:06<newb>jordanm: Testing
13:07<newb>Found at debian bugs! http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=607364
13:07<ZeroEnna>sney?
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13:09<ZeroEnna>the debian backport image doesn't work. It asks for a ISO Image
13:09<collette>Hi, can anyone recommend an app that prints to pdf (like cutepdf writer)?
13:10<ZeroEnna>but I thought, Just copy it to USB via dd and that's it
13:10<newb>collette: cups-pdf package
13:12<collette>thanks
13:13<newb>jordanm: I added the experimental repository at sources.list, but I can't install linux-headers for this version
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13:14<jordanm>,versions linux-headers-2.6.37-rc5-686
13:14<judd>Package linux-headers-2.6.37-rc5-686 on i386 -- experimental: 2.6.37~rc5-1~experimental.3
13:14<jordanm>newb: well, its there
13:15<newb>jordanm: I receive the message: "... Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.37 who is a virtual package"
13:15<newb>jordanm: and the only solution of aptitude is mantain uninstalled
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13:17<jordanm>newb: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage#Thestoryoflinux-kbuild-2.6
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13:21<ZeroEnna>Question: Where do I get old initrd.gz files for Debian 5.0.3
13:23<jordanm>!snapshot
13:23<dpkg>http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412
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13:25<newb>jordanm: Unable to find 2.6.37 file for kernel at http://ftp.de.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ :S
13:25<newb>jordanm: and now?
13:26<gsimmons>newb: It's still at RC, try the testing subdirectory.
13:27<newb>gsimmons: found! ty!
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13:43<jhutchins_lt>newb: Not all kernel versions are released as debian packages.
13:44<jhutchins_lt>newb: What instructions did you follow for using experimental packages?
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13:49<ubnoob>Hello everyone, i want to install a new theme but i get this error: "required GTK + theme engine 'ubuntulooks' is not installed- any suggestions?
13:50<cahoot>you stumbled into #debian
13:50<ubnoob>I tried "apt-get install ubuntulooks" but no dice
13:50<ubnoob>oops
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13:51<Odin>did you install gtk+?
13:51<ubnoob>i dont know, how do i check?
13:51<ubnoob>package manager?
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13:52<Odin>dpkg -s <blah>
13:52<dpkg>You Fool! <blah> is installed!
13:52<Odin>blah being the pkg u are looking for
13:52<Odin>let me guess, you copied and pasted without editing blah
13:53<Odin>no more help for you lil guy
13:53<cahoot>u as in ubuntu?
13:56<ZeroEnna>I'm facing maaany new problems!
13:57<ZeroEnna>I installed backport 5.0.3 with Kernel 2.6.32, but my ethernet card is not detected!
13:57<ZeroEnna>so bnx2 is not included
13:57<mjt>!firmware
13:57<dpkg>Firmware (sometimes termed "microcode") is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel modules require firmware to be provided from userspace, prior to device operation, notably for <WiFi> devices. Ask me about <listkeys firmware> and <search> my factoids. Some firmware is available via Debian packages. See also http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware and <installer firmware>.
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13:58<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: No, the bnx2 driver is there. The kmuto images even supply firmware for it.
13:58<ZeroEnna>well it says "no NIC detected"
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13:59<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: "lsmod | grep bnx2", "ifconfig -a", etc etc
13:59<ZeroEnna>lsmod | grep bnx2 returned nothing
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14:00<mjt>bnx2, just as any other network module, stays loaded even if no device(s) found
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14:01<ZeroEnna>I used http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.32/amd64/lenny-custom-0116.iso with initrd and vmlinuz from http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20091004T111800Z/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/20090123lenny4/images/hd-media/
14:01<mjt>so _who_ says "no NIC detected ?
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14:01<ZeroEnna>•mjt• Debian Installer
14:02<mjt>and does the installer have the module?
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14:02<ZeroEnna>Actually I used a kmuto-ISO which should have this module
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14:03<ZeroEnna>"[Update 16th January] Update ISO file (0116) with firmware files firmware-nonfree 0.22 based. I hope some devices such as bnx2, bnx2x, and tg3 work again now. "
14:04<newb>jhutchins_lt: sorry, I'm was at netbook and don't saw your message here. I already know the experimental repository (already tested openoffice packages, new versions of kde and some other packages).
14:05<mjt>well, i mean the initrd+vmlinuz which you oused
14:05<ZeroEnna>I'm not sure about it...
14:05<ZeroEnna>they are from debian archive
14:05<jhutchins_lt>newb: Glad you found it.
14:05<ZeroEnna>because the only one's included the kernel modules are 5.0.5 and newer I think
14:05<mjt>ZeroEnna: so use the kmuto .iso directly, without custom kernel
14:05<ZeroEnna>burning it on CD?
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14:06<mjt>it depends on how you install
14:06<ZeroEnna>My aim was to create a recovery USB Stick
14:06<ZeroEnna>for Dell R210
14:06<newb>jhutchins_lt: But now I have a doubt. I followed the wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage#Thestoryoflinux-kbuild-2.6), but where is the generated kbuild deb?
14:06<kop>ZeroEnna: I'm never clear on whether the kmuto installer installs a new kernel or something more stock. Clearly you need a new kernel if you can run the installer but can't run the installed system. (Or maybe you just need to install the firmware.) In any case you can use the install disk as a rescue cd to boot and install the stuff you need.
14:07<jhutchins_lt>The kmuto kernel is newer than stable, but not the same as testing.
14:07<mjt>ZeroEnna: for rescue usage, grab any rescue image on the net -- *lots* are available
14:07<ZeroEnna>•mjt• Okay, but for reinstall....
14:07<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: You could have just used the provided 0116 hd-media/boot.img.gz, anyway.
14:08<jhutchins_lt>kop: Dunno, I haven't had to build a debian kernel for years.
14:08<ZeroEnna>•gsimmons• dd if=/media/usb of=boot.img ?
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14:08<newb>jhutchins_lt: lol, found :S
14:09<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: Usually "zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/foo" or some variant.
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14:10<ZeroEnna>ahhh that may explain why it failed booting from it ^^
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14:13<ballison>hi - i just installed a debian server in our datacenter. IP'ed it got it up and running, then returned to my office only to realize Debian doesn't install an ssh server out of the box
14:13<ballison>is that normal/expected ???
14:13<Odin>yes, it is normal
14:13<ballison>wow - debian is worse than i expected then.
14:14<Odin>by default ssh is not installed
14:14<ZeroEnna>ballison
14:14<ballison>redhat/centos install openssh-server by default out of the box
14:14<ZeroEnna>ever heard of RSB/ILO/iDRAC
14:14<Odin>as it has the potential to be exploited
14:14<Odin>yes, they do
14:14<Odin>and they all get hacked more frequently as well
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14:14<ballison>no - not really.
14:14<Odin>yea really
14:15<jordanb>Has there ever been any effort to make dpkg support environments?
14:15<ballison>solaris got hacked frequently
14:15<Odin>but if you dont like debian no one is forcing you to use it fag
14:15<jordanb>kinda like the python virtualenv thing?
14:15<ZeroEnna>•ballison• It's a quite neat feature on server hardware
14:15<ballison>unfortunately i'm being forced to use debian here.
14:15<jordanb>like, you could make a directory tree in your homedir, and be able to install packages into it
14:15<Odin>you arent being forced to
14:16<ZeroEnna>•gsimmons• do I need to add something or will it run out of the box?
14:16<ZeroEnna>like an ISO or so?
14:16<ballison>Odin- using "fag" in a negative way like that is highly offensive and shows low intelligence on your part.
14:16<ballison>i'm out.
14:16<Odin>you simply choose to work at a place that uses it
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14:16<cahoot>ballison: just here for the rant?
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14:17<Odin>how the fuck is he gonnja come here and bitch about shit because it doesnt have ssh installed by default
14:17<Odin>then say i have low intelligence
14:17<ZeroEnna>every normal SERVER (I'm talking bout HP, IBM and so on) has a RSB installed for Remote Server Management
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14:17<ZeroEnna>so why the hell does he need SSH?
14:17<ZeroEnna>I mean out of the box
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14:18<Odin>hes probably using like old pweredge 1550s or some shit
14:18<ZeroEnna>or he uses desktop hardware
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14:18<Odin>either way
14:18<ZeroEnna>... which is dumb in some way
14:18<cahoot>Odin: he's gone - no - why keep ranting?
14:18<ZeroEnna>you're right cahoot
14:18<Odin>because it is entertaining
14:19<cahoot>not really - mor annoying
14:19<Odin>anyhoot back to my postfix/dovecot learning process
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14:19<jhutchins_lt>ZeroEnna: I don't know what world you live in, but I know of THOUSANDS of professional servers that don't have OOB management.
14:19<jhutchins_lt>ZeroEnna: I've personally built hundreds of them.
14:19<ZeroEnna>well, I don't know any server w/o OOB
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14:19<ZeroEnna>maybe it's standardized within T-Systems
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14:21<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: You will need to supply a netinst or businesscard Debian 5.0 image. If a 5.0.7 images isn't accepted, take one from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.3/
14:21<ZeroEnna>is a netinstall image welcome?
14:21<ZeroEnna>ah okay sorry
14:21<ZeroEnna>I overread it
14:21<ZeroEnna>and in which folder do I have to put it? root?
14:21<jhutchins_lt>ZeroEnna: Most of the servers I've seen with OOB hardware it wasn't implemented in the datacenter anyway.
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14:22<ZeroEnna>•jhutchins_lt• I'm not saying that it is a must, but it's a nice "gimmick"
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14:25<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: At the filesystem's root is fine, but IIRC iso-scan will also check for images one level down.
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14:25<ZeroEnna>any defaults with naming the iso? boot.iso?
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14:27<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: Transferring the CD image as-is is sufficient.
14:27<ZeroEnna>but it doesn't matter, does it?
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14:28<gsimmons>AFAIK, only the file's extension (.iso) matters.
14:28<ZeroEnna>okay
14:28<ZeroEnna>I try with 5.0.7 first
14:29<ZeroEnna>and then - if this fails - try 5.0.3 iso
14:29<newb>jordanm, jhutchins_lt, gsimmons: Working, now I need only wait some time to test. The numbers sounds best, but I'm not certainly yet. Thanks for your help.
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14:33<ZeroEnna>well it says something about kernel versions not matching
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14:37<ZeroEnna>Okay
14:37<ZeroEnna>the specific error message is
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14:38<ZeroEnna>"No Kernel modules found. THis is probably due to a missmatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive."
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14:40<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: Yes, I can reproduce that here. One moment.
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14:43<alec1>I have a debian install without desktop enviornment, only CLI. How do I set font size?
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14:51<panching>hey
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14:52<f8l>panching: Hello.
14:52<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: Sorry, you'd want to supply the lenny-custom-0116.iso image (appropriate for your architecture), not an official image.
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14:53<ZeroEnna>ahh okay
14:53<ZeroEnna>and what do I have to customize after installation?
14:53<sander>Hi. How can I change the locale settings for a single user, preferably for a single item (e.g. LC_TIME)?
14:53<cahoot>put it in .bashrc?
14:54<sander>Tried that: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (en_DK)
14:54<sander>And I did generate the locale using dpkg-reconfigure locales
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14:55<sander>I want to run a mixed locale for my user. Basically, I want everything en_US.UTF-8 except the LC_DATE. mm/dd is just backwards. Sorry.
14:55<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: For support of your BCM5716 device? Nothing specific, as the bnx2 driver is included along with the required firmware.
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14:56<saulo>Hello. My debian do not find the swap partition
14:56<jhutchins_lt>!locale
14:56<dpkg>[locale] a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale
14:56<saulo>fdisk -l shows me the partition, but blkid -c /dev/null dont
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14:57<saulo>swapon -a shows me "swapon: /dev/sda6: read swap header failed:Invalid argument"
14:57<saulo>What could be?
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14:58<sander>!locales
14:58<dpkg>Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command; ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale
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14:59<jhutchins_lt>saulo: Is it set to the correct partition type?
14:59<jhutchins_lt>saulo: /dev/nul is not a valid argument for what you're trying to do.
14:59<sander>jhutchins_lt: Not what I need. It just tells me to dpkg-reconfigure locales. I already did that. I just want to override LC_TIME for a single user.
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15:00<saulo>jhutchins_lt: swapon -s do not show the partition :(
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15:01<saulo>Only "blkid" do not show the partition too
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15:01<amany>hello
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15:02<amany>gfvgg
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15:04<amany>ping
15:05<Class>hey ppl i wonder what is the best ftp cli client out there ?
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15:06<Class>i dont like debian's default ftp client much
15:07<f8l>Class: Try out tnftp, or yafc.
15:07<newb>'kernels
15:08<ZeroEnna>•gsimmons• Thank you, it works!
15:08<newb>,kernels
15:08<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-rc5-686 (2.6.37~rc5-1~experimental.3); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-29~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
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15:08<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: np
15:09<newb>my PC is crazy with kernel 2.6.37 now :-S There are 2.6.36 here?
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15:11<okaratas>debian lenny stable: 2.6.26-2-686
15:12<okaratas>but I compile new kernel is not problem, I tested
15:12<okaratas>desktop.mueddib.int 2.6.36.2-mueddib #1 SMP
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15:13<okaratas>2.6.36.2 is stable linux kernel
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15:13<newb>okaratas: There are somw deb package for 2.6.36?
15:14<okaratas>newb, my processor pentium 4 3.2 ghz
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15:19<ZeroEnna>•gsimmons• are the kernel modules static... will they be wiped when a new kernel is installed
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15:19<f0rk>does anyone know what the policy is for security related package updates, if there is one at all?
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15:23<Odin>welp, postfix works
15:23<Odin>now to attack dovecot
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15:26<ZeroEnna>•gsimmons• It was installed, however... It doesn't boot the installed os.. actually it does NOTHING
15:26<ZeroEnna>not even the bootloader
15:26<ZeroEnna>so maybe it's a raid problem
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15:27<Odin>or a simple boot device priority misconfig
15:27<gsimmons>ZeroEnna: So you're back to the same problem you described three hours ago?
15:28<agony>Hello I have installed on my netbook the first cd#1 and everything is perfect but I don't have internet and I can't install cd#2 because I don't have cdrom to use apt-cdrom I have only usb. Can anyone to help me please?
15:28<Odin>thats what im hoping for for ya anyways since thats like the easiest to fix
15:28<Odin>use a dvd image instead of multiple cd images
15:28<Odin>or
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15:28<Odin>do a netinstall
15:29<ZeroEnna>gsimmoms: basically.... yeah
15:29<f8l>agony: How did you install from CD1 without having a CD reader?
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15:30<Odin>he made a bootable usb stick
15:30<agony>with the unetbootin
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15:30<Odin>haha theres ur prob
15:30<f8l>agony: You may copy the debs to /etc/apt/archives/
15:31<f8l>agony: Wait. This will not solve the problem completely.
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15:31<agony>My only problem now is how to connect wifi for Internet. Is there another way to install the drivers needed?
15:32<Odin>yep
15:32<Odin>hardwire it
15:32<Odin>then get your drivers
15:32<agony>I have tried with the unetbootin, instead of the cd, I have tried the dvd but it does not recognize it and I cannot understand why?
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15:32<agony>cable?
15:32<Odin>thats simple
15:32<Odin>the answer is
15:33<agony>I don't have cable, only wifi
15:33<Odin> because you are using unetbootin
15:33<Odin>which is broken
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15:33<agony>What do you mean "broken"?
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15:33<Odin>i mean it doesnt work properly
15:33<Odin>look
15:34<agony>Do you know anything else to use?
15:34<yaro>Does anybody know how to solve the fullscreen crash problem when trying to watch from youtube? I run Lenny, amd64, iceweasel, shockwave flash 10.3
15:34<Odin>if you want to switch from windows to linux which is what you seem to be trying to do because of unetbootin
15:34<agony>switching from ubuntu to debian...
15:35<Odin>i cant help you with noobuntu
15:35<Odin>they broke so much shit in it that it scares me
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15:35<Odin>they make it damn near impossible to remove sendmail
15:35<agony>I don't need any help w/ Ubuntu, just with Debian
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15:36<agony>what could I use instead of unetbootin?
15:36<agony>sorry, wrong question...
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15:36<Odin>well
15:37<Odin>if you have a big enough usb drive
15:37<yaro>Who use Lenny amd64, do you have a fullscreen flash player crash?
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15:37<agony>yeah- that is what I'm using b/c I am doing it on a netbook (no cd-rom)
15:38<Odin>http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/02/25/installing-linux-on-usb-part-7-install-debian-linux-from-usb-drive/
15:38<Odin>that is what i used on the junktop
15:38<Odin>desktop*
15:38<gsimmons>agony: Which specific netbook (e.g. brand, model) are you using?
15:39-!-mode/#debian [+l 453] by debhelper
15:39<Odin>or you can try following the pxe guide, it will probably be faster
15:39<agony>packard bell dot s2
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15:41<Odin>woo hoo mail server is 90% working
15:41<Odin>now to set it up to accept mail from external sources and we will be finished
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15:43<agony>i have an 8GB flash and have downloaded squeeze DVD.iso. During Debian installation I get an error message that it is looking for the cd. Is there a way with UNetbootin to have it install with dvd instead of cd? Can I install with DVD from USB instead of CD?
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15:45<agony>or can you guys give me some ideas of how i can install wifi to get online in order to install drivers?
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15:47<yaro>Who uses amd64 Lenny, please say to me if you have or not have the browser crash when you switch fullscreen in flash videos (youtube in example)?
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15:48<Odin>you need to quit trying to use unetbootin
15:48<Odin>do it manually
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15:49<Odin>ive given you the link you need
15:49<f8l>yaro: I have amd64, but I don't use flash to watch youtube videos.
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15:50<yaro>F8l, and what do you use to watch?
15:50<Odin>youtube now has a html5 version that works just as well if not better
15:50<Odin>http://www.youtube.com/html5
15:52<ZeroEnna>oh...wel.... now my system's writing GRUB all over the screen
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15:56<f8l>Odin: It has it's glitches, but yes, it's worth using.
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16:00<ragnar>hi all
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16:00<ragnar>how do i find out what files are in a .deb packages?
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16:02*Odin = stumped
16:02<Odin>what the hell am i overlooking
16:02<Odin>only problem i have is remote smtp
16:03<amphi>ragnar_de: dpkg -L (if it's installed)
16:03<slush>ragnar_de: dpkg -L package
16:03*Odin examines postfix config AGAIN
16:04<Odin>grrr
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16:04<jordanb>You need dpkg -c if looing at the .deb file
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16:04<jordanb>looking
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16:05<ragnar_de>jordanb: thats what im looking for. thx
16:06<Odin>ok, question. what would cause postfix to not accept connections from anything but the local machine? no ports are blocked
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16:07<Odin>sasl is enabled
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16:08<Odin>and works properly when used locally
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16:09<jordanb>Odin: Maybe hosts.deny?
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16:10<Odin>?
16:10<Odin>it doesnt work fromk any address
16:10<jordanb>Odin: /etc/hosts.deny can be used to make services drop connections if they come from the wrong source host
16:11<jordanb>I believe postfix honors it
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16:11<jordanb>there's also /etc/hosts.allow for whitelisting
16:11<Odin>wouldnt that result in a connection refused though?
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16:11<jordanb>my experince, the connection gets established but immediently dropped
16:11<jordanb>I believe it's because it's the individual daemons that enforce it
16:12<Odin>i see
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16:12<Odin>welp, ill look into it
16:12<jordanb>If you don't have anything in either file though, that's not your problem. ^_^
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16:12<Odin>i predict them both being empty
16:13<Odin>as its a fresh install of deb
16:13<jordanb>postfix itself has some configuration options to reject email, but it should allow you to send the entire message to it before it desides to reject it
16:13<jordanb>one thing is, are you refusing connections that *don't* use sasl? Maybe you're not authenticating correctly
16:13<jordanb>or don't have TLS working properly or something
16:13<jordanb>in my experience, that whole SASL/TLS thing is a total bitch
16:14<Odin>yea
16:14<Odin>im learning that the hard way
16:14<Odin>what gets me is that its acting like its timing out
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16:15<Odin>but works fine locally
16:15<Odin>iunno ill fiddle with the configs a little more
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16:16<Odin>dovecot works good enough and thats all my goal for today was
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16:16<jordanb>If the connection is getting established and then immediently closed, it's *something* that the daemon doesn't like. That means that the socket to the daemon is being established successfully, but then the daemon is deciding that it doesn't want to talk to you
16:16<jordanb>What do the mail logs say?
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16:18<Odin>nah its timing out after like 30 seconds
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16:19<Odin>im about to restart and increase the logging level
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16:22<no1pillmonsta>evening all
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16:24<Odin>hmmmmz
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16:26<Odin>i wonder if its my rdns
16:27<ragnar_de>bye
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16:29<raf>hi ppl
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16:29<Odin>hello
16:30<Odin>or bye
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16:32<Roofus901>hi all
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16:32<Roofus901>in squeeze amd64 is there a way to resize the filesystem partition?
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16:37<Roofus901>also, is there a way in squeeze amd64 to backup an entire filesystem and reinstall on a larger partition?
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16:38<ompaul>Roofus901: that question is wrong, the filesystem may or may not lend itself to being changed, it has nothing to do with squeeze or amd64, your second question is perhaps not a problem with dd but you may have better options, what kind of disks have you got are they both sata or some such
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16:40<Roofus901>ya, they're both sata
16:41<Roofus901>i have a 1tb sata and a 300gb sata
16:41<Roofus901>i was just a fool and only made the squeeze partition only 20gb
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16:42<ompaul>Roofus901: what else is on that 300gb disk
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16:42<Roofus901>windows 7 lol
16:42<Roofus901>windows 7 + squeeze
16:42<Roofus901>the 1tb sata is only downloaded/ripped files such as songs and what not
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16:43<ompaul>Roofus901: so how is it formatted?
16:43<Roofus901>300gb = ntfs for part 1 & ext4 for part 2 | the tb drive is one big ntfs
16:45<ompaul>you can use a utility in windows (no idea don't use that stuff myself) to resize that ntfs partion then you could install fresh into that, and then copy the stuff you want from the other partition
16:45<ompaul>Roofus901: however just how much space of the 1tb is in use?
16:45<Roofus901>only 400gb
16:45<Roofus901>so i have 400 and some change i will be using
16:46<Roofus901>i'm going to use the other half of that tb for my new squeeze partition
16:46<ompaul>_only_ nice one .. basically you need to divide that disk in two and start your squeeze world again, grab the data from the smaller one to the bigger one as needed,
16:48<Roofus901>thx, will do, good thing is the only thing i'll really have to adjust on my own again is my iceweasel theme, bootloader theme and....well that's about it lol
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16:48<ompaul>Roofus901: however if it was me I would get a second tb disk and get rid of windows all together other than in something like qemu or virtual box if you really feel the need to run such stuff
16:48<Roofus901>i take it virtual box = run windows inside of linux similiar to vmware for windows?
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16:49<ompaul>Roofus901: or the otherway around for vmware it runs on gnu/linux - however I would not suggest it :)
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16:50<Roofus901>ah i c
16:50<Roofus901>gotcha
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16:50<Roofus901>well, i'm off to resize some stuff, then copy more stuff lol
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16:50<ompaul>Roofus901: do a clean install it will pay you better
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16:51<Roofus901>i think i'll use the 400gb now for my main filesystem, then when i'm prepared to leave windows all together i'll just add those other drives as ext4 storage disks for my squeeze
16:51<Roofus901>that way i won't have to suffer another fresh install lol
16:51<Roofus901>because in a few months, that could bring some pain lol
16:51<Odin>mk well its not postfix thats causing the problem
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16:52<ompaul>Roofus901: so make the full jump today, don't be wasting time with that windows stuff, it does nothing for ya ;-)
16:53<ompaul>Roofus901: until you make the full jump you won't commit and it is a bit like having the sea for swimming in and a hot pool on the beach and there is a little cross shore wind ... master the sea and you will be better for it :)
16:53*ompaul risks saying dive into debian
16:54<Roofus901>lol, ya know i may just take that advice
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16:54<Roofus901>well, i'm off to make a last minute decision, i'll phone in the verdict once i'm back online in a bit
16:54<Roofus901>thx ompaul
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16:57<Xytty>occupé
16:57<Xytty>quitte
16:58<Xytty>Quitte
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17:07<bluenemo>hi guys. i try to check out pidgin + jabber + voice call, but my partner and i cant hear each other :( do you guys know of any good howtos? i cant find much helpfull on goolge..
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17:13<Odin>ok ill break down and ask for help. my box is refusing all smtp connections before it even gets to the postfix daemon. i know this because im getting a time out from remote clients and no updates in the log files pertaining to postfix. i have verified the port is open using a web service. locally everything works fine. dovecot works fine both locally and remotely. postfix works fine locally
17:13<Odin>but not remotely.
17:14<Odin>hosts allow and deny are empty
17:14<Odin>by empty i mean all lines are commented
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17:20<Odin>no ideas?
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17:20<jester45>bluenemo, are both of your microphones and speakers working?
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17:20<bluenemo>jester45, yes, checked it
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17:21<retrospectacus>Odin: you can talk to postfix with telnet
17:21<Odin>yep
17:21<Odin>well
17:21<Odin>telnet from a local host that is
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17:23<Odin>hmmmm
17:23<Odin>remote telnet doesnt seem to work
17:23<Odin>on port 25 anyways
17:23<Odin>i dont get that because my deny list is totally empty
17:24<retrospectacus>iptables?
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17:24<jester45>bluenemo, and your both able to text chat correct? do you have a firewall blocking any ports?
17:24<Odin>never messed with them
17:25<bluenemo>yes, we text chat since 3 years now :)
17:25<bluenemo>@ jester45
17:25<bluenemo>we can call and i can answer the call, but then we dont hear each other..
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17:26<Odin>its showing the default no rule setup
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17:27<retrospectacus>Odin: netstat -plant |grep :25
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17:27<ompaul>bluenemo: both ends got the same codec
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17:28<bluenemo>ompaul, how can i check this?
17:28<Odin>tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 9478/master
17:28<ompaul>bluenemo: no idea, I know it to be a problem in similar environments,
17:28<retrospectacus>looks good
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17:29<Odin>shouldnt that work?
17:29<bluenemo>ompaul, ok thanks for the help and codec tip. i'll go find out.
17:29<jester45>bluenemo, how about forwarding udp 8010.
17:29<retrospectacus>Odin: yeah that is correct, something else is blocking incoming connections
17:29<ompaul>bluenemo: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg are both of those installed?
17:29<Odin>hmmmmm
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17:30<jester45>i would think only one of you would need to be forwarded
17:30<Odin>im going to look into changing the port/adding a secondary port
17:30<bluenemo>ompaul, we are checking out ekiga @ the moment, but i'll write that to my notebook and check it out later, thank you very much :)
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17:32<ompaul>bluenemo: you do need to take into account a STUN server to help RTP get from one box to the other
17:32<ompaul>bluenemo: that last one is the highest chance of being the solution
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17:33<bluenemo>ompaul, oh ok thx for the hint. ekiga seems to work better so far, but i have noted all of your tips and will try out later. thank you very much!
17:33<ompaul>http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router
17:33<ompaul>bluenemo: ^^ last item - now I go to read other stuff :)
17:34<Odin>yea it just straight up times out when i try to telnet to it from anywhere other than localhost on port 25
17:34<bluenemo>thank you :D
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17:44<humble>hello is there any way to find email adresses that they exist on a domain ?
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17:47<TIBS01>whats the package name
17:47<TIBS01>for tcl
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17:47<TIBS01>in aptitude
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17:49<bluenemo>ekiga is working fine guys, thx for the help anyway. next step would be to route ekiga through our vpn :)
17:51<Odin>TIBS01 if you are installing it to use with an eggdrop then sudo apt-get install tcl8.3-dev
17:52<zobel>a/go adm
17:53<TIBS01>thankies
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17:56<ompaul>bluenemo: what kind of vpn
17:57<bluenemo>honestly idk, thats the work of my partner :)
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17:58<bluenemo>vde i think, & openvpn
17:58<ompaul>bluenemo: ahh, well openvpn just works :)
17:58<marbreu>hello humans
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18:05<Odin>TIBS01 to save you a little sanity id try compiling the eggy from src
18:05<Odin>cause like
18:05<Odin>the aptitude version
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18:06<pkrzywicki>hi guys
18:06<Odin>its just very unorganized
18:06<pkrzywicki>anyone knows how to modify linuxlogo
18:06<Rovanion>Lads and ladies: I have huge issues with my Debian laptop since updating my Squeeze for the first time in half a year. Firstly and probably simplest to fix: I'm missing the fuse kernel module. modprobe fuse results in a fatal error
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18:06<Odin>Rovanion id love to help you but thats way over my head pal
18:07<Odin>i dont really know much about the guis
18:07<Odin>the whole X thing is still new to me
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18:10<rpetre>Rovanion: i use the latest kernel in squeeze and fuse seems to be there
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18:11<rpetre>ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-29 Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs
18:11<Rovanion>rpetre: Odd
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18:11<rpetre>have you by any chance updated the kernel, but haven't rebooted yet?
18:12<gsimmons>pkrzywicki: See README.CUSTOM_LOGOS in the linuxlogo documentation.
18:12<pkrzywicki>gsimmons, sure mate just thought it is a simple five min task and someone did that already
18:13<pkrzywicki>but wil do
18:13<pkrzywicki>thx anyway
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18:21<Rovanion>But that fuse issue is of lesser importance: My main issue is that Xorg doesn't have any grip of my input devices. Neither keyboard nor touchpad
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18:23<jhutchins_lt>So fall back to the backup you made before the upgrade. You KNOW you're on "testing".
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18:42<theodore>hi, what's the best burning prog, k3b or brasero?
18:43<Rovanion>theodore: k3b is advanced, brasero is simple
18:44<theodore>thank u, also, what's the best dvd authoring prog, that can include subs?
18:44<Rovanion>theodore: DeVeDe
18:44<theodore>k3b is quite simple, like nero
18:45<Rovanion>theodore: I'm not entierely sure that it can handle subs, but it's the one I always use
18:45<Rovanion>Is there any specific package that contain kernel modules like fuse?
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18:46<theodore>though k3b is for kde right?
18:46<theodore>well, i guess it's not an issue
18:46<theodore>is it?
18:47<Rovanion>theodore: No, it's using Qt and you can use use Qt aswell as gtk apps in both Gnome and KDE
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18:47<theodore>ok
18:48<theodore>thank u very much
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18:48<axon>hello
18:48<axon>i need some help
18:48<axon>my printer doesn't worj
18:48<theodore>shoot it
18:48<gsimmons>Rovanion: fuse is part of the mainline kernel, there's no out-of-tree package for it anymore.
18:48<theodore>which printer?
18:49<axon>can anyone explain me what to do
18:49<theodore>i'm trying
18:49<axon>i do not even know how to install it
18:49<Rovanion>gsimmons: So me not having fuse, and not having an out of mainline kernel means that I should reinstall it maybe?
18:49<axon>theodore its a hp psc 1415
18:49<Rovanion>gsimmons: In that case, what packages do I reinstall?
18:50<gsimmons>Rovanion: You have fuse, you just experience a fatal error when attempting to insert it. Check your kernel ring buffer (dmesg).
18:50<axon>so in ubuntu i had a options: system>Preferences>printers and somewhere an add button
18:50<theodore>hplip
18:50<axon>...
18:50<axon>what do i have to do with this?
18:50<axon>hplip?
18:50<theodore>"install" it
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18:51<turok>salve a tutti
18:51<turok>raga
18:51<turok>avrei un problema con lubuntu
18:51<Arrowmaster>axon: system>administration>printing
18:51<turok>qualkuno puòaiutarmi?
18:52<theodore>then try this: http://www.debianadmin.com/setup-cups-common-unix-printing-system-server-and-client-in-debian.html
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18:52<axon>@ arrowmaster - theres nothing like this
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18:53<Rovanion>gsimmons: My dmesg has nothing mentioning fuse. But when running modprobe fuse I get the fatal error that /lib/.../fuse.ko does not exist.
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18:53<Arrowmaster>was there for me after a default install
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18:56<axon>@ theodore
18:56<axon>:
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18:56<gsimmons>Rovanion: Please pastebin the complete error output ; /msg dpkg paste
18:56<axon>at localhost i'm asked for a password
18:56<axon>and an identification.
18:56<axon>root or normal user?
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18:57<theodore>root man
18:57<Arrowmaster>i never had to mess with any of that cups web interface to get printing working
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18:58<theodore>http://localhost:631/printers
18:59<theodore>home --> add printer
18:59<Arrowmaster>hmm that didnt even prompt me to login
18:59<Rovanion>gsimmons: Is there anything like wgetpaste in the debian repos; I'm stuck in a TTY since Xorg doesn't want to work with my keyboard or mouse
18:59<Arrowmaster>Rovanion: pastebinit?
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19:00<Rovanion>Arrowmaster: That sounds like it
19:00<axon>thanks a lot! now it works
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19:00<theodore>no biggie
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19:02<Rovanion>gsimmons: pastebin.com/52AYfihc
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19:02<theodore>axon did u print a test page?
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19:07<gsimmons>Rovanion: Your system is using an obsolete kernel version with several security issues (linux-2.6 2.6.32-9), consider fully updating your system and restarting (e.g. "aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade").
19:09<Rovanion>gsimmons: Aptitude came telling me that no packages needed upgrading after doing aptitude update and aptitude full-upgrade just now
19:10<gsimmons>judd: kernels --release squeeze
19:10<judd>Available kernel versions are: squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29)
19:10<gsimmons>Rovanion: Then you have a problem.
19:10<axon>@theodore yes
19:11<theodore>so it's ok?
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19:11<axon>my only problem is that openoffice can't export some writings as pdf... but i thinks thats to special ...
19:11<Rovanion>http://pastebin.com/pJ4xtCXW is my sources.list in case there is any issue with it
19:11<axon>but the printer works now @ theodore!
19:12<theodore>glad to help bro
19:12<Rovanion>aptitude search ~ahold came back with nothing. And that should result in all held packages right?
19:12<axon>THX
19:12<theodore>cheers
19:13<theodore>have a G nite, laters
19:13<Rovanion>gsimmons: What else can be wrong?
19:14<gsimmons>Rovanion: Does /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 exist on your system? Your bootloader may have booted your system to 2.6.32-3-686 by default (e.g. "saved" GRUB selection).
19:15<Rovanion>gsimmons: Yes, it does exist
19:16<gsimmons>Rovanion: OK, you're still in the old one. Examine your boot loader configuration to ensure 2.6.32-5-686 is an available option, then restart and boot using this.
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19:17<theodore>axon, for pdf try this : http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-install-and-customize-cups-pdf-in-debian.html
19:19<theodore>is there a prog in the repos that can handle dvd auth & subs?
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19:23<Rovanion>dpkg-reconfigure <what?> do I run to reinstall grub?
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19:24<theodore>anyways.... thanx
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19:26<gsimmons>Rovanion: You can either look over /boot/grub/grub.cfg (or /boot/grub/menu.lst if using GRUB Legacy) to confirm 2.6.32-5-686 presence, or just run "update-grub".
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19:28<Rovanion>It seems like I had an issue with my /boot not being mounted once the system was up and running. And when running update-grub I get the fatal error that fuse.ko is missing. Bah.
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19:52<Ne0WizArd>how can i install or extract a .lzm file ?
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20:00<jester45>Ne0WizArd, 7z should decompress it
20:01<jester45>7z e filenames.lzm
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20:08<Ne0WizArd>thanks
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20:28<twb>Is pypy (the self-hosting Python compiler) in the archive? If so, under what name? (I can't find it.)
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20:32<gsimmons>twb: It was removed in 2009 (BTS #538858).
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20:34<twb>Thanks
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21:59<nasgor>hi
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22:08<nasgor>I have upgraded my etch to lenny using "apt-cdrom add", and the system work well now
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22:11<nasgor>Do I have to modify /etc/apt/sources.list. Replace "etch" with "lenny" ?
22:12<dvs>!etch->lenny
22:12<dvs>dpkg: etch->lenny
22:12<dpkg>Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date, ask me about <etch sources.list> (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Then ask me about <lenny sources.list>. aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>.
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22:49<Ne0WizArd>i get a error everytime i try to install something from commandline run dpkg --configure -a but after that it say that the file system is read only and wont do anything ?
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23:00<dvs>as root?
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23:44<amitz>what's a more modern set up to check and observer notebook's temperature? is http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/327 still relevant?
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23:46<sney>amitz: that article will work, but there are generally widgets for whatever window manager you use that will show you the same information
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