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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-12-29

---Logopened Wed Dec 29 00:00:23 2010
00:02<prem>cozminsky, i think livehttpheaders is the one am looking for.,i will give a try and come back
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03:33<eprasad>Hello room
03:34<eprasad>what is difference between host.allow and host.deny
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03:34<eprasad>please help me on this ^^^
03:34<eprasad>wgrz++
03:34<valdyn>eprasad: read the manpage?
03:35<eprasad>okay thanks valdyn
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03:57<kermit>#Mibu-Fansubs
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04:00<jer0me>hmm, am i blind or there are no more ifconfig/iwconfig in the lenny installer shell ?
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04:02<cahoot>not even /sbin/ifconfig?
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04:11<jer0me>cahoot: no, not even.
04:12<cahoot>tried ip?
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04:12<jer0me>the rt2500pci wireless driver is loaded, the installer tries to associate and get an ip from dhcp
04:12<jer0me>doesn't find dhcp
04:13<jer0me>though, I don't know how to "monitor" it or force it without iwconfig
04:13<cahoot>missing firmware?
04:14<jer0me>ho, could be
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04:14<jer0me>any doc on this matter maybe ?
04:14<cahoot>unless you explicitly installed fw I'd guess so
04:15<jer0me>ok, I'll try that, thanks !
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04:24<gsimmons>jer0me: The rt2500pci driver does not require firmware from userspace.
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04:24<Swot>Hello
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04:29<jer0me>gsimmons: eth card stopped working on this laptop and the installer fails to get an ip over wireless access. I can't find any useful tool in the provided shell. Are there any images (netinst maybe) that provides a more extensive shell ?
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04:36<gsimmons>jer0me: You could use a Debian Live "rescue" image to attempt association/DHCP, then use debootstrap to install the base system.
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04:39<jer0me>gsimmons: I'll give it a try. Thanks
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04:40<hay09>hello
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04:43<hay09>how to create a live usb debian which contains the current configuration of my system ?
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04:44<dominick>Hi! I'm looking for a small tool to integrate with my application which can be used to write on (with a stylus, meant for tablets) and saved as an svg.
04:45<dominick>Any suggestions?
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05:14<enc0nyx>is there a IRC for openoffice ?
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05:18<enc0nyx>ok, well, how do I merge all the lines of a text file into one big line? my screen reader pauses way to long... when it hits a cr/lf and aggrivates me. and there is no setting in the reader software to skip paragraph breaks.
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05:33<valdyn>enc0nyx: xargs echo -n < textfile
05:34<valdyn>enc0nyx: or skip the "-n"
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05:35<valdyn>enc0nyx: i wonder if it wouldnt be a better idea though to fix your screen reader's configuration
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05:43<pmate>hi
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05:51<davi>Is there a hardware database for Debian Squeeze where
05:51<davi>I can look for printer+scanner?
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05:53<davi>https://alioth.debian.org/projects/hwdb/
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06:06<jad>hello
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06:09<jad_>hello
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06:13<jad_>can someone help me
06:13<petemc>!ask
06:13<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
06:14<jad_>i need to figure out how to connect to msn service using irssi
06:14<petemc>bitlbee
06:14<jad_>i can't seem to get the hang of it
06:15<jad_>ok thanks
06:15<jad_>:D
06:15<petemc>np
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06:20<valdyn>davi: since printers basically only need a ppd file you should probably not look at a hwdb but at the hw vendor site or http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/database/databaseintro
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06:23<flor>davi: and for scanner just look on sane-project.org they have a supported devices database
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06:44<davi>thanks flor & valdyn. I will look at both, as I am looking for a printer+scanner
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06:46<Estefania>ainhooaa!!!1
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06:47<ainhoa>kkkk?
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06:53<Estefania>ola?
06:53<Estefania>amig@?
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07:04<mint>does anyone use a ipod touch
07:04<mint>?
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07:05<mint>does anyone use a ipod
07:06<cahoot>!anyone
07:06<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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07:07<mint>i am having trouble with my ipod touch in rythembox. as it will not detect it can anyone advise
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07:08<_Danilo_>mint: http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
07:09<mint>i have made sure that that is installed and it is there
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07:11<kyle6513>g'day guys, just wondering if theres a better driver for an ATI(AMD) 5770? I've installed the driver under "additional drivers" but this seems...defective for a game I'm attempting to play, is there any sort of bleeding edge version I could try?
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07:21<kyle6513>g'day guys, just wondering if theres a better driver for an ATI(AMD) 5770? I've installed the driver under "additional drivers" but this seems...defective for a game I'm attempting to play, is there any sort of bleeding edge version I could try?
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07:42<sean>my ipod touch will not be dectected on rythembox. is there anyway for rythembox to pick it up
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07:43<cahoot>sean: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg01516.html
07:46<sean>cheers for the link and i will try it now
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07:46<cahoot>meant for reading and contemplation
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07:51<kyle6513>g'day guys, just wondering if theres a better driver for an ATI(AMD) 5770? I've installed the driver under "additional drivers" but this seems...defective for a game I'm attempting to play, is there any sort of bleeding edge version I could try?
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08:06<dominick>Hi! I have a problem. i downloaded the latest debian-testing-i386-DVD-1.iso . And I was not able to burn it with the help of k3b. When I said "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/iso -speed=4), the output is "Executing 'builtin_dd if=/home/bakup/foss/debian-testing-i386-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/dvd obs=32k seek=0'
08:06<dominick>:-( /dev/dvd: 2295104 blocks are free, 2296367 to be written!" Why is debian providing DVD images that can't fit in a DVD?
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08:07<dominick>s/=4)/=4"/
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09:31<Arjuna>hey folks
09:32<Arjuna>quick question: finally moving to 64 bit, wich images do i need for intel cpus ? ia64 ?
09:32<petemc>amd64
09:32<Arjuna>kk
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10:13<lele>!list
10:13<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
10:13<lele>ciao
10:13<lele>!list
10:13<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
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10:45<tomten>hi, who do i talk to about a grub2 problem?
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10:46<amitz>don't ask to ask, just ask
10:46<tomten>okej
10:47<tomten>im trying to install squeeze on a mdadm raid5 and when it boots i get grub: no such disk
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10:48<amitz>how did you install squeeze?
10:48<tomten>netboot from my pxe server
10:48<tomten>and then netinstall
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10:49<amitz>I assume you haven't even seen the boot choice, right?
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10:50<tomten>no, the only question from grup-pc is if a want to install on MBR
10:50<amitz>and the install seemed to be successful?
10:50<tomten>yes
10:50<tomten>the install gose thrue
10:50<nsadmin>so then what happens when you boot
10:51<tomten>i get the grub-rescue and the error "no such disk"
10:51<nsadmin>so grub does run
10:51<tomten>yes
10:51<tomten>but i guess it can not find grub.cfg
10:51<nsadmin>but you can, right?
10:52<tomten>no
10:52<tomten>in ls i can only see hd
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10:52<tomten>and no md0
10:52<nsadmin>so it's not in /boot/grub?
10:52<tomten>yes it is
10:52<tomten>if i mount the md0 in the install then i find it
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10:53<nsadmin>ok, good enough... hope you solve that one. I've never done raid
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10:53<tomten>nsadmin: :-(
10:53<tomten>i think it installs grub on sda
10:54<tomten>and not on the raid
10:54<tomten>and then fails to read the raid5
10:54<amitz>I don't know if it's relevant but are you sure that the boot options refers to your installation root?
10:54<nsadmin>I guess grub has a module which assembles an array, you'll just have to find it
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10:55<nsadmin>and take a look at your device.map I guess too
10:55<tomten>amitz: do not know... in the gui it say installing grub on /dev/sda
10:55<amitz>the most guaranteed way is by quoting your fs serial number, I don't know how it works in raid though
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10:56<amitz>I meant, I don't know what you mean by entering grub-rescue. You can see your boot options right when booting?
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10:56<nsadmin>personally I'd have a partition sitting outside the array
10:56<nsadmin>like / or /boot
10:56<tomten>nsadmin: no, thats not good
10:57<nsadmin>but it would work
10:57<tomten>amitz: i dont get a normal grub prompt... i get a grub-rescue prompt
10:57<tomten>nsadmin: yes, but thats not a nice way, and its a waste of disk
10:57<nsadmin>anyway, I meant to join #debian-kde
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11:00<tomten>okej, im going to try and remake the device map from a chroot in the install... and then let the md0 resync all the way...
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11:09<tomten>:-D
11:09<tomten>it worked
11:10<tomten>you nead to remake the device map, and let the array finnish sync
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11:16<amitz>congrats!
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11:44<acu>I installed debian squeeze amd - minimal and I get a messagehd01 msdos out of disk entering rescue mode - then I get a grub
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12:01<acu>OK the grub is screwed in squeeze - I had the same question - got the grub rescue prompt = what should I do to make it start
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12:16<jhutchins_lt>acu: There are a number of web pages that give you the procedure for recovering from that. I'm not very familiar with it because, contrary to your statement, grub works fine in squeeze (although there are issues with the installer).
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12:18<acu>jhutchins_lt, the installer I was referring too :)
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12:19<jhutchins_lt>I have had to refer to a guide whenever I needed to rescue grub. Be aware that squeeze uses grub2, not legacy grub.
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12:29<moulinex>Bonjour, j'ai un serveur ftp sur ma debian, mais mon disque dur principal est bientot plein, je vient d'en installer un second disque dur, mais je ne sais pas ou le monter pour qu'il puise prendre le relay ?
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12:29<kenoby>!fr
12:29<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
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12:31<fnmueller>moulinex: you can just read man mount. Basically you could create any directory using mkdir and mount /dev/sdxx /your/dir - of course, you can also do that using fstab
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12:58<knoppix_>ööö
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12:59<Guest2614>Hallo
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13:52<ballison>I have a newbie question about nagios. i just installed nagios3 and started the rc script. now what. how do i see what it's doing?
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13:54<retrospectacus>!nagios
13:54<dpkg>Nagios (formerly NetSaint) is a popular open source computer system and network monitoring application software. It watches hosts and services that you specify, alerting you when things go bad and again when they get better. Packaged for Debian as nagios3. http://wiki.debian.org/PkgNagios http://www.nagios.org/faqs/ #nagios on irc.freenode.net.
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13:54<retrospectacus>never used it but those places will have more info, ballison
13:54<acu>hey guys - the amd64 grub from squeeze installer daily is screwed - any hint how to solve it
13:55<ballison>thanks
13:55<ballison>!grub
13:55<dpkg>[grub] GNU GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) 0.9x, aka GRUB Legacy. A powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes and understands many filesystems. To install: "aptitude install grub grub-doc" ("aptitude install grub-legacy grub-legacy-doc" for Squeeze). To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub errors>, <grub2>, <supergrub>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub
13:55<ballison>oh that's cool.
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13:55<retrospectacus>!tell ballison -about msg the bot
13:56<ballison>neat
13:57<retrospectacus>indeed :)
13:57<retrospectacus>!stats
13:57<dpkg>Since Wed Dec 29 12:05:03 2010, there have been 0 modifications, 20 questions, 5 dunnos, 0 morons and 7 commands. I have been awake for 6h 52m 10s this session, and currently reference 39306 factoids. I'm using about 18028 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 10.62/0.7 child 0/0
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14:04<ballison>what do you have to do to get flagged as a moron? :)
14:04<ballison>"0 morons" haha
14:04*dvs hides
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14:07<ballison>i'm confused about nagios. i thought nagios monitored the local host that it gets installed on. but from the examples it looks like nagios goes out and acively pings other servers for status.
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14:07<ballison>i ws just looking for something to monitor my application logs with
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14:09<rpetre>ballison: not sure what you want to do, but you may want to look at logwatch or logcheck
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14:15<ballison>rpetre: Yeah I think logwatch or logcheck would more be in line with what i want than nagios
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14:16<ballison>rpetre: I want to give the program a directory and tell it to monitor all logs in given directory looking for the word ERROR and fire off an email if it sees the word error
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14:16<rpetre>ballison: nagios is a state monitoring system, it tells you if things are ok or not, it depends on the plugins that do that
14:17<rpetre>well, that can be done in nagios too, i guess, but it's not its usual use case
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14:20<rpetre>ballison: if those are syslog-managed logs, i think you can fire that kind of alerts from rsyslog, as they happen
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14:21<ballison>rpetre: these are proprietary(sp) application logs.
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14:26<devil>!dpkg
14:26<dpkg>well, dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>.
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14:26<devil>!dpkgbot
14:26<dpkg>Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also ask me about <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>.
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14:38<tzafrir_laptop>hi, I'm trying to get ajaxterm to run, and the web interface fails to connect to the server,
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14:38<tzafrir_laptop>Digging further and debugging a bit, I see that the following fails:
14:38<tzafrir_laptop>su -c 'ls -la' ajaxterm
14:39<tzafrir_laptop>Shouldn't that work?
14:39<tzafrir_laptop>(it fails with gitdaemon and other such users)
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14:41<debiandesper>spanish channel please?
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14:43<retrospectacus>!es
14:43<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:51<quentin>quentin
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14:55<tzafrir_laptop>hmm..... ajaxterm works nicely, as long as I don't use --daemon
14:56<tzafrir_laptop>heck, I'll just run it in screen for the demo
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15:00<acu>I am trying to install debian squeeze daily amd64 and I get invariably hd0, msdos1 out of disk ---- Entering rescue mode... grub rescue >_ what should I do ?
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15:03<zedboy>I feel dumb having to ask the channel, but why isn't mozilla 3.6 at least in debian-multimedia?
15:04<streuner>nah
15:04<devil>zedboy: its in experimental
15:04<streuner>judd, versions iceweasel
15:04<judd>Package iceweasel on i386 -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.15-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.15-1; sid: 3.5.16-3; experimental: 3.6.13-1
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15:07<zedboy>devil: translation: in sid?
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15:07<devil>zedboy: experimental is not sid. sid is unstable
15:08<retrospectacus>sid has 3.5.16
15:08<zedboy>devil: So what's experimental? Testing? Or a new flavor of ice cream entirely?
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15:08<devil>zedboy: experimental is the very entry level, 'below' unstable, close to the gates of hell :)
15:08<zedboy>devil: So experimental is more-unstable-than-unstable?
15:08<zedboy>ah.
15:09<zedboy>devil: who knew 3.6 (which has been out for ... god knows how long?) was so hellacious
15:09<devil>zedboy: during debians freeze it collexts stuff that would othwrwise enter unstable and start their journey upwards
15:10<zedboy>devil: but isn't sid always free from being frozen, since if sid freezes by definition it's no longer sid, but squeeze (or whatever the latest flavor is)?
15:10<devil>zedboy: no, it is affected.
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15:11<devil>and no, it always stays unstable. outside the reincarnation wheel.
15:11<zedboy>devil: then by definition putting stuff into it shouldn't be affected, no?
15:11<devil>zedboy: it would interfere with fixing rc bugs in testing
15:11<zedboy>hmm.
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15:16<ezetreal>hi all
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15:18<ezetreal>quick question. is it recommended to download the latest testing version directly or is it okay to upgrade after installing stable lenny ? also, is this a question a remnant of my windows days ?
15:18<ezetreal>-a
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15:19<retrospectacus>ezetreal: either way is fine
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15:19<retrospectacus>one way is faster and easier ;)
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15:20<ezetreal>retrospectacus: thx. i'm guessing that is also a yes for my last question :)
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15:20<ezetreal>retrospectacus: my internet connection here is dreadful and i just downloaded stable lenny 64, so i'd rather use that and just upgrade...
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15:21<zedboy>ezetreal: you should be downloading netinst images if you're downloading anything
15:21<retrospectacus>upgrading will use a fair bit of network too
15:21<zedboy>ezetreal: that way you waste the minimum of time. that said, the stable installation process will want to download all the parts of stable, so it'll be quicker to just install the testing image
15:22<faheem>ezetreal: the former, imo
15:22<retrospectacus>yeah your best bet is probably to grab a squeeze netinst CD and install that
15:22<faheem>the squeeze installer is at beta 2. quite stable
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15:23<ezetreal>zedboy: netinst ? from the name of it i assumed it would use more network than the usual DVD installs.... i'll look it up ! thanks !
15:23<zedboy>ezetreal: no, it's less. because you only download what you need. remember, if you download it to burn it on a cd, you still download it.
15:23<faheem>ezetreal: if your bandwidth is metered and you need to do many installs. otherwise use netinst
15:24<faheem>ezetreal: if your bandwidth is metered and you need to do many installs download cds. otherwise use netinst
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15:24<ezetreal>thanks all, i'll do that right away...
15:24<faheem>ezetreal: also bear in mind testing is still changing
15:24<faheem>for stable downloading cds might make more sense
15:25<Arrowmaster>every package your going to use has likely changed between stable and testing anyway, so downloading the stable cd is just wasted bandwidth
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15:26<Arrowmaster>and if you are new to linux, the lenny->squeeze upgrade process might be a bit complex
15:26<ezetreal>aren't i glad i popped by this channel tonight :)
15:26<ezetreal>!
15:26<Arrowmaster>!lenny->squeeze
15:27<Arrowmaster>oh yeah, it doesnt like that
15:27<ezetreal>Arrowmaster: i am an eternal noobie that likes to try :)
15:27<faheem>Arrowmaster: yes, doing an upgrade just to get to squeeze doesn't make sense
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15:28<Arrowmaster>well due to the kernel and udev issues, the upgrade instructions are fairly specific and could be disastrous if not followed correctly
15:29-!-mode/#debian [+l 433] by debhelper
15:29<faheem>Arrowmaster: not aware of any such issues. there were some a bit of time ago
15:29<faheem>but resolved afaik
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15:29<Arrowmaster>the lenny->squeeze factorid says something about needing to upgrade udev, then the kernel, then everything else
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15:30<faheem>Arrowmaster: link?
15:30<Arrowmaster>dpkg: tell faheem about lenny->squeeze
15:30<faheem>Arrowmaster: or is this the bot?
15:31<Arrowmaster>bot
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15:32<faheem>Arrowmaster: yes, i see. might be outdated, dunno
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16:00<e9ck3r>Hello to everyone
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16:00<retrospectacus>Hello to you
16:00<e9ck3r>how can i set a proxy server?
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16:01<retrospectacus>in Gnome, System - Preferences - Network Proxy
16:02<xayon>e9ck3r: Or, if not gnome-ish you can export HTTP_PROXY=proxy program.
16:03<e9ck3r>ok but if you put a proxy does not work. Can you recommend me a server?
16:03<retrospectacus>no
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16:03<retrospectacus>you will need to find your own. Google might help
16:04<e9ck3r>the ones I found are to be paid
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16:05<koollman>e9ck3r: why do you need a proxy server ?
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16:05<e9ck3r>koollman: for privacy
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16:06<koollman>doesn't help much, in my opinion
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16:08<e9ck3r>retrospectatus: which port should I use to configure it 8080,80?
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16:09<retrospectacus>um a web proxy I'm guessing? not 80
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16:09<retrospectacus>8080 or 8008 or 3080 something like that
16:09<retrospectacus>I'm off. GL ;)
16:09<e9ck3r>ok thanks guys
16:09<e9ck3r>i will try by my self
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16:10<retrospectacus>you should ask #networking on freenode
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16:11<retrospectacus>if you need more help... this is not really a debian question ;)
16:11<e9ck3r>retrospectatus : you mean #networking is a channel right?
16:11<retrospectacus>yes on the server irc.freenode.net
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16:11<e9ck3r>ok but i'm a debian user
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16:12<e9ck3r>I thought you could help me
16:12<retrospectacus>you're also a network user
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16:13<e9ck3r>ok i will ask to the channel that you told me
16:13<retrospectacus>I can tell you how to setup a proxy in debian, but not where to find a proxy
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16:13<retrospectacus>!qotd0
16:13<dpkg><helix> I just bang on the keyboard like a retarded monkey
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16:14<e9ck3r>retrospectatus: ok in xchat i can open more than one channel?
16:14<retrospectacus>I don't know, probably. try /server +irc.freenode.net
16:14<devil>hundreds
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16:14<retrospectacus>that's what I type on irssi
16:15<bluenemo_>where could i limit the ssh login attemts again? /etc/ssh/ssh_conf, but what was the option again?
16:15<e9ck3r>okok
16:15<e9ck3r> thanks
16:15<retrospectacus>GL, bye all
16:16<e9ck3r>bye retrospectatus
16:16<devil>bluenemo_: limit in what way?
16:16<devil>bluenemo_: you want rootnologin for sure
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16:16<bluenemo_>i want it to disable login after 5 failed login attempts (for 5 minutes or so..)
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16:17<devil>hm, i use fail2ban for that
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16:17<devil>but thats on a server
16:17<bluenemo_>its a server..
16:18<bluenemo_>i thought there was an option for it in the config file.. i thought i'd set that up a few month ago on another server but cant find it anymore..
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16:21<ompaul>bluenemo_: fail2ban be aware that it only means that you have limited the bad people to 10 attempts in 10 minutes or 240 attempts in a day and if it was a 200 unit bot net that would be 48,900 attempts a day or 1.5million attacks a month, nice if you have an mx server sitting there and someone really wants it, consider using ssh keys and password combinations
16:21<devil>ssh keys is a must imho
16:22<rudi_s>bluenemo_: You can also use iptables' limit and hashlimit features.
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16:22<bluenemo_>yeah the problem is the customer, that wont let me do my job right.. for some strange reason (which i dont get) i am not even allowed to disable ssh root login..
16:22<devil>ouch
16:22<bluenemo_>yes.. :)
16:22<rudi_s>bluenemo_: What's wrong with root login (as long as it uses keys)?
16:23<bluenemo_>the fun is i'm the ass when it gets f**ked up..
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16:23<bluenemo_>yeah keys.. he's a windows noob :) can putty use keys?
16:23<f0rk>yes, it can
16:23<bluenemo_>but keys would be an idea indeed..
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16:23<bluenemo_>ah ok cool.. then i'll try to check that out thank you!
16:23<jhutchins_lt>On the other hand, keys mean that if one machine is compromised any machine it can connect to is compromised.
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16:24<rudi_s>jhutchins_lt: Same with passwords.
16:24<ompaul>bluenemo_: write them a stiff mail that points to a risk assessment and that they are preventing you from locking the box down and thus increasing their exposure. Ask them how would their cyber-crime insurance people consider such risks in an audit pre or post incident.
16:24<bluenemo_>thats right yes. i use keys here in my private network as well..
16:24<devil>what is rootlogin needed for?
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16:24<rudi_s>devil: To be root?
16:24<ompaul>rudi_s: you have su - for that ;-)
16:24<bluenemo_>yeah its not a big company.. its a small server for an game clan..
16:24<jhutchins_lt>rudi_s: No, because theoretically any machine that you want to connect to requires a unique password. Hack one, you still have to hack the next one.
16:24<devil>rudi_s: i connect as user with keys and then su to root
16:24<rudi_s>ompaul: But that doesn't add much security.
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16:25<rudi_s>jhutchins_lt: But the attacker can just sniff the passwords while I enter them.
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16:25<jhutchins_lt>rudi_s: ssh passwords are encrypted.
16:25<rudi_s>jhutchins_lt: ?
16:25<jhutchins_lt>rudi_s: They'd have to sniff the local keyboard - an admitted risk.
16:25<bluenemo_>yeah i did disable root login but then he said some random app of his wouldnt work right anymore ;/ i dont like being admin on this server :) complicated when nbd lets you do your job..
16:25<ompaul>rudi_s: root should not be directly available except from the console but that is just me.
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16:25<jhutchins_lt>rudi_s: Indeed, that's why ssh instead of telnet and ftp.
16:26<rudi_s>jhutchins_lt: Yep.
16:26<ompaul>bluenemo_: walk away
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16:26<ezetreal>is 24 mb the normal size for the boot.img.gz file for hd-drives netinst ?
16:26<rudi_s>I meant the local system, not the netwrok.
16:26<bluenemo_>:)
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16:26<rudi_s>ompaul: True, but for a remote server that's difficult, and AFAIK there's no real difference between su - and a simple root login.
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16:27<rudi_s>bluenemo_: Programs that need a root login, that sounds bad ..
16:27<bluenemo_>dont ask me whats all bad on this server xD
16:27<ompaul>rudi_s: well the only real difference is that someone can't remotely dictionary attack your password, if it takes three years to get to that is what it takes.
16:27<rudi_s>^^
16:27<bluenemo_>this server is so fu**ed up its so sick :)
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16:27*bluenemo_ is only waiting for the skiddys..
16:27<rudi_s>ompaul: Yeah, that's what keys are for (especially for root).
16:28<ompaul>bluenemo_: don't, walk away and state your reason as "impossible to secure"
16:29<bluenemo_>hm yeah.. i like the ppl in my clan :) i play there as well.. but its hard to make them understand.. they know everything better than i do :D
16:29<ezetreal>scratch that
16:29<bluenemo_>or they think they do..
16:29<bluenemo_>i did only spend years to learn but who am i to talk :D
16:30<devil>bluenemo_: so you are not even payed really good for this? walk away :)
16:30<ompaul>bluenemo_: document the problem, send it to who ever pays for the domain, and walk away, play there but say the rules stop you from securing the platform
16:30<bluenemo_>lol no i do it for free :) i like to play the game in my spare time..
16:31<ompaul>bluenemo_: you won't like it when you are accused of being incompetant, spying on people, leaving the box in a way no admin should and btw some nasty illegal stuff was found on the box and the police want a chat with you
16:31<bluenemo_>yeah i think i'll just totally wipe it with 0'os and then set it up from scratch again.. will take some discussions but i hope it'll work.. if else, yes, maybe i will walk away..
16:32<bluenemo_>the provider set up a very strange lenny that is even more stupid than what my customers installed on it after xD did you ever rent a server where the provider pre installed and forgot to set up the raid1? was so fun i was thinking hm sdb only zeros, strange :D
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16:33<bluenemo_>ompaul, hm yeah you are quite right... its quite dangerous.. yeah i think i'll have a sirious chat with my customers soon..
16:35<ompaul>bluenemo_: one minute they are your customers, next minute you are not being paid, next minute it is a gaming server, next minute I've given my best advice, how do you know it isn't being compromised right now this second, or was yesterday and now well they have their patches in you can't see them you are in a vm not them :)
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16:38<bluenemo_>yeah customers may have been the wrong term sorry for that.
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16:40<bluenemo_>maybe right would be clan 'kollegs', which think they know more than i do.. not that i'm a total pro, anyhow i'm the only one using linux at all :) i have an lpi 1&2 so far..
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16:41<bluenemo_>i'm basicly most interested in rescuing data and stuff.. and i think if sbd skilled wants to own sth, he'll own it..
16:42<bluenemo_>but i think i could keep it save if my 'kollegs' would let me :)
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17:20<bo>hello, does anybody know why the package glob2 is not in squeeze?
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17:22<retrospectacus>,versions glob2
17:22<judd>Package glob2 on i386 -- etch: 0.8.21-4; lenny: 0.9.3-2; sid: 0.9.4.4-2
17:22<bo>hm
17:22<retrospectacus>hm
17:22<retrospectacus>don't know. add lenny repo to your sources and see if it will install
17:23<bo>it's a game
17:23<bo>and a good one!
17:23<bo>but a game is not worth making a hack
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17:26<retrospectacus>s'not really a hack
17:26<retrospectacus>just might not work ;)
17:30<bo>this game is damn good, I will look up the maintainers email and ask what's up
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17:33<Arrowmaster>http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=glob2
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17:34<ompaul>bo: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=595448
17:36<bo>ok, this means somebody is working on it but there are problem, right?
17:36<bo>thx so much!
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17:37<retrospectacus>bo: I can explain to you how to install the one from lenny on your squeeze if you like
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17:37<retrospectacus>basically what I said above but it is an old version of the game of course
17:37<retrospectacus>also it may not be possible
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17:38<bo>retrospectacus, no no it's ok (I still have an Ubuntu 10.10 running with the game, DUCK AN RUN)
17:38<retrospectacus>!sudosmite bo
17:38*dpkg takes a lump of 2x4 to bo and yells "This is not #ubuntu!!!1!"
17:38*retrospectacus ;)
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17:41<bo>(if they continue to babynate the UI like that I'm back to debian only on all my private installations)
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17:41<bo>thx for help
17:41<bo>gn8
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17:42<retrospectacus>ciao
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17:46<NightMonkey>Howdy. To manage rc*.d scripts, are we to use update-rc.d? In squeeze, at least, it seems a bit brittle.
17:47<Arrowmaster>!insserv
17:47<dpkg>from memory, insserv is a dependency-based <init> system that is compatible with <sysvinit> and is the default from squeeze onwards. See also <upstart>. To use insserv, your init scripts need to have tags at the top of them that describe what they depend on to permit the correct ordering of the init scripts (see <missing lsb tags>).
17:47<NightMonkey>Yes.
17:48<NightMonkey>"Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/sbin/update-rc.d line 500." Love it.
17:48<Arrowmaster>what are you trying to do?
17:49<NightMonkey>Arrowmaster:
17:49<NightMonkey>Arrowmaster: "update-rc.d portmap stop"
17:50<NightMonkey>Then update-rc.d spews a bunch of warning that the portmap runlevel arguments aren't LSB.
17:51<NightMonkey>Then insserv chimes in with warnings about portmap's runlevels "overwriting" defaults. Joy.
17:51<NightMonkey>This is on a pretty new Squeeze install (on ARM, granted.)
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17:52<NightMonkey>To top it off, no sign of what it acually did with my request. Did it stop the service? Who knows.
17:52<NightMonkey>(answer: no, it didn't stop portmap)
17:53<Arrowmaster>not sure if update-rc.d is supposed to stop and start services as you change things
17:53<retrospectacus>you may be confusing update-rc.d with invoke-rc.d
17:54<Arrowmaster>yeah thats what im wondering, since that error you mentioned seems to be from not providing anything after the 'stop'
17:54<NightMonkey>retrospectacus: Ah, didn't know about invoke-rc.d
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17:55<retrospectacus>invoke is used to run them. update is used to create/delete/set run levels
17:55<NightMonkey>retrospectacus: update-rc.d did remove the portmap script from rc*.d (renaming S -> K). But with all those warnings, it was hard to tell if it was actually going to do what it says on the label.
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17:56<retrospectacus>gotta go, hope that helped ;)
17:56<NightMonkey>retrospectacus: Thank you! :)
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17:58<NightMonkey>Is there a setting in apt to stop Debian from launching deamons during the install?
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17:59<NightMonkey>It's not a big deal, but I'd rather not stop services immediately after an install.
17:59<NightMonkey>(by hand, that is)
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18:00<ompaul>NightMonkey: don't install anything and build the system slowly, debian's mindset is very simple, you installed it, you wanted it, therefore it should be on
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18:04<dba>NightMonkey: read /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d
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18:06<NightMonkey>ompaul: OK. But what if I don't want that?
18:06<NightMonkey>ompaul: I wanted it. Sure. But I need to configure it.
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18:08<NightMonkey>dba: Thanks. I read that, it helps.
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18:22<NightMonkey>dba: Is there some policy document on start-daemons-on-install?
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18:24<jordanm>NightMonkey: no, the daemons are started in the postinst script and the postinst script must be executed to complete package configuration
18:26<ompaul>NightMonkey: that is why I said you have to build a basic system no daemons and then onwards and upwards, are you deploying lots of them in which case do you want to build the packages the way you want no other changes i.e. switched off, can you describe your typical use case, is it that you want to install it off net and then configure it, and then relaunch it, in which case download all DVDs, make an image of the box to deploy and start from there
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18:29<NightMonkey>jordanm: So, it's there for sort of a "smoke test" of the package installation process?
18:29<NightMonkey>ompaul: I'm kind of beyond that stage. :)
18:29<NightMonkey>ompaul: But thank you.
18:29<NightMonkey>ompaul: I'd just like to flip a switch, and have the choice to have daemons started by the install or not.
18:29<NightMonkey>ompaul: But, I do understand the rationale here, if a "validation test" is why it is started on install.
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18:30<jordanm>NightMonkey: there is no "switching" that on or off. like ompaul said, you will need to rebuild the .debs with your intended changes
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18:32<NightMonkey>Uh, I was kicked?
18:32<NightMonkey>Do I type too fast?
18:32<NightMonkey>jordanm: Oh, wow. Okay. Major surgery. Thanks.
18:32<NightMonkey>And I was kicked why?
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18:32<Arrowmaster>its like that because its expected to be that way, if another package depends on a daemon and the daemon doesnt get started on install then how are you going to install the packages that depend on it and expect them to work
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18:33<Arrowmaster>its like that because its expected to be that way, if another package depends on a daemon and the daemon doesnt get started on install then how are you going to install the packages that depend on it and expect them to work
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18:33<ompaul>nightmonkey you hit enter too often
18:33<Arrowmaster>and yes you are being kicked for typing too fast, im guessing theres some slight lag on your connection and its all coming in at once
18:33<chealer>debhelper is sensitive today...
18:33<ompaul>dare we bot snack it ;-)
18:34<NightMonkey>Goodness. Okay, I'll type slower next time.
18:34<jordanm>NightMonkey: you are kicked for saying multiple lines in a very short period of time. its there to prevent someone from pasting the contents of a file out command output into IRC and "flooding"
18:34<jordanm>NightMonkey: not type slower. hit "enter" less
18:34<jordanm>!enter
18:34<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
18:36<ompaul>NightMonkey: can you give us a use case for this change in the way debian is being installed, other than "I want to", why would the debian project even consider this thinking given that it has served us all well for so long?
18:37<ompaul>NightMonkey: in other words, you are looking to do a lot of work for very little gain as far as I can see
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18:38<ompaul>NightMonkey: and furthermore you would have a lot more work do to building an install infrastructure to achieve this goal
18:38<EagleScreen>hello
18:38<NightMonkey>Arrowmaster: I see that my questions are leading me on a dark path that may end up with me arguing with Debian's process. I don't want to go there. I was having a nice day. :) I didn't think it was such a lot of work. But thanks for the pointers.
18:38<EagleScreen>I have some issue with zenity
18:38<NightMonkey>ompaul: ^
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18:38<ompaul>NightMonkey: ack
18:39<ompaul>EagleScreen: as I was not in school the day they did telepathy can you please tell us more and maybe we can help. ;-)
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18:40*ompaul disavows his name is alec and nor is he very smart ;-)
18:40<EagleScreen>I am doing now some work for the "Ubuntu Backmerging Team" in Debian, adding cautious-launcher support to Debian's mime-support
18:40<EagleScreen>the cautios-launcher script has a call to zenity to report a error
18:42<EagleScreen>this is the command: http://paste.debian.net/103446/
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18:44<jordanm>EagleScreen: what about it?
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18:44<EagleScreen>when I click on the URL from the Gtk dialog, nothing happens in X, and the terminal outputs this:
18:44<EagleScreen>http://paste.debian.net/103447/
18:45<EagleScreen>any idea about why this error?
18:45<EagleScreen>can you reproduce it?
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18:46<ompaul>EagleScreen: I've used zenity but not for urls before
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18:46<ompaul>EagleScreen: how does it react without the url
18:47<EagleScreen>ompaul: the dialog is well created, but clicking in the URL do nothing
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18:48<EagleScreen>if I delete the URL stuff, then there isn't issues
18:48<ompaul>EagleScreen: just a sec
18:48<EagleScreen>sure
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18:51<ompaul>EagleScreen: ok, it has been a few months since I used it just looking at my own code - my approach to similar but not the same problem actions was to ask someone to click on a button and launch a new thread calling a browser and giving it the url as an argument
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18:52<ompaul>EagleScreen: it's crude but it works
18:53<EagleScreen>I see..
18:53<ompaul>EagleScreen: well zenity is basically a replacement for dialog
18:54<EagleScreen>ompaul: I may change it by xmessage
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18:55<ompaul>EagleScreen: zenity is very restrictive it is there in every gnome but kdialog is not and that is a whole other tool which is kde friendly for the same job
18:56<ompaul>kdialog is more powerful, sadly you can't just swap one for the other
18:56<EagleScreen>if I use kdialog, then mime-support would depend on kadialog and on kdelibs, and I dont want it
18:56<ompaul>the command structures are different also
18:56<jordanm>,depends mime-support
18:56<judd>Package mime-support -- depends: None.
18:57<jordanm>EagleScreen: why should it depend on zenity?
18:57<EagleScreen>xmessage is present in all X sessions
18:57<jordanm>,rdpends x11-utils
18:58<EagleScreen>I can use the 3 options: zenity, kdialog and xmessage, checking if they exist first
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18:59<jordanm>EagleScreen: does not look like that is the case either
18:59<Arrowmaster>but cant mime-support be used without an X session, in that case you wouldnt want it to depend on any of them
18:59<ompaul>EagleScreen: you are really using bash/dash or whatever they are using these days that is where your logic resides, the xmessaging system is an aside
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18:59<brunopex>buenas alguine me puede ayudar
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19:00<jordanm>!es
19:00<brunopex>trato de instalar algunas aplicaciones
19:00<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
19:00<brunopex>y me tira error el bactrack
19:00<jordanm>!bt
19:00<dpkg>bt is, like, Bhutan, or <bluetooth>, or British Telecom, or <bittorrent>, or <BackTrack>.
19:00<jordanm>!backtrack
19:00<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
19:00<brunopex>cannot be installed on your computer type(i386)
19:00<brunopex>bueno
19:01<brunopex>en he escuchado ke esta basado en debian
19:01<jordanm>!based on debian
19:01<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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19:01<brunopex>unnn
19:02<brunopex>pero = tengo una duda
19:02<brunopex>me sale este error
19:02<brunopex>cannot be installed on your computer type(i386)
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19:03<ompaul>brunopex: debian != backtrack #backtrack-linux irc.freenode.net http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
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19:04<ompaul>EagleScreen: back to your situation, I think you want to offer someone a learn more or do nothing radio button, if the radio button is do more it sets a value and the script goes and grabs the browser else it says "goodbye"
19:04<brunopex>mi laptop soporta 64 bits
19:04<brunopex>y supongo ke el backtrack se instalo por defecto a 64 bits
19:04<brunopex>por eso no me tira error al instalar aplicaciones con el add remove aplications
19:04<brunopex>alguin ke hable español....
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19:32<ompaul>EagleScreen: does that help?
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19:33<EagleScreen>ompaul: thanks a lot for your suggestions, I think, by the moment i will make use of xmessage and show the URL as plain text
19:34<ompaul>xmessage is really ugly
19:34<EagleScreen>yes, and really effective, and common for Gnome & KDE
19:35<ompaul>fair point
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20:36<Roofus901>hi everyone
20:36<Roofus901>for linux, is there a game that comes close to call of duty games?
20:36<Roofus901>where it's online and such
20:37<deepa>bzflag :D?
20:37<deepa>Granted, I play bzflag on Windows more than on Linux
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20:37<Roofus901>ah
20:38<Roofus901>have you ever tried true combat elite?
20:38<Roofus901>i mean i know i can install and run mw2 via wine, but that's kinda a pain lol
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20:39<Roofus901>since i use the alteriwnet patch for multiplayer and that requires .net 3.5 framework, i have to login to windows, update mw2, then copy the directory back to linux
20:39<Roofus901>it's too much hastle lol
20:39<Roofus901>atleast until they get 3.5 to install onto linux via wine
20:39<Roofus901>unless there's already a way that myself and google don't know about :-p
20:41<bighornram>I'm having java troubles in squeeze when I type at prompt java version I get errors instead of a version number. I'm in amd64 squeeze
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20:44<Nemoder>bighornram: try java -version
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20:47<bighornram>Nemoder: thanks that was better though original issue I can't get the plugin to work in iceweasel :(
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20:47<Nemoder>bighornram: does it show up in about:plugins ?
20:47<bighornram>yes
20:48<Nemoder>http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml does this work?
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20:50<bighornram>no just get a gray box
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20:51<Nemoder>bighornram: what version is listed in about:plugins?
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20:51<bighornram>1.6.0_22
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20:52<bighornram>I also tried epiphany, broken there too.
20:54<Nemoder>you might try: update-alternatives --config mozilla-javaplugin.so
20:57<bighornram>There is only one alternative in link group mozilla-javaplugin.so: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
20:58<Nemoder>ah.. well you might have better luck with the icedtea6-plugin package
20:59<bighornram>update-alternatives for java shows 2 instances of java-6-openjdk can those be removed?
20:59<Nemoder>it will only use the configured one, I wouldn't remove any, let the package manager do that
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21:13<i___>hi, i can't see my scanner after the debian install, can someone pls help?
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21:13<i___>i run lxde
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21:18<i___>it works when in root
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21:26<fix>So where are the members of Infragard in here? I need my dick sucked on.
21:26<fix>and they are perfect for the job
21:27<eolo>hello
21:27<fix>hi
21:27<eolo>its my first time here
21:27<eolo>how it works
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21:30<fix>how what works?
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21:30<i___>once more... how can xsane recognise my scanner without root?
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21:43<i___>guys how do i run xsane as root through the graphical inderface of lxde?
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21:43<jordanm>i___: you should add your user to the scanner group instead
21:43<fix>wtf is xsane?
21:43<jordanm>,info xsane
21:43<judd>Package xsane (graphics, optional) in lenny/i386: featureful graphical frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy). Version: 0.996-1; Size: 294.4k; Installed: 752k; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/xsane
21:44<i___>jordanm: thanx, how do i do that...?
21:44<jordanm>i___: adduser foo scanner
21:44<jordanm>i___: need to relog
21:44<fix>cannot install flash 10
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21:45<fix>man I got the deb package from Adobe but it fails to install
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21:45<deepa>Get any error?
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21:45<fix>bah lemme run it again
21:45<jordanm>fix: that one is not supported here
21:45<jordanm>fix: need the one from the backports repo
21:45<fix>why because steve jobs is a queer?
21:45<i___>jordanm: so i give adduser (...) scanner and relog?
21:45<jordanm>!tell fix about flash
21:45<fix>lol
21:45<ezetreal>for the scanner problem: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=58127
21:46<fix>thanks
21:46<jordanm>i___: yes
21:47<fix>yeah also, I installed deb from a dvd and it keeps asking me to put the disk in every time I install something, is there a way to keep it from asking for the disk? very annoying
21:47<i___>jordanm: thanx man
21:47<ezetreal>fix: you have to removethe cd from software sources
21:47<fix>yes thats what I was thinkin, but how?
21:47<fix>what file do I need to edit?
21:47<jordanm>i___: np
21:48<jordanm>!tell fix about sources
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21:48<ezetreal>system preferences does it i think fix
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21:49<ezetreal>fix: otherwise the file is located at /etc/apt/sources.list
21:50<ezetreal>fix: comment the deb cdrom entries
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22:13<fix>yay its not asking for the cd anymore
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22:13<fix>yay its not asking for the cd anymore, just edited out the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list like u said
22:13<fix>thanks
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22:21<fix>oh man the default drivers are crap in this
22:21<fix>acceleration is horrible
22:22<fix>I think I will install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.28-pkg1.run
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22:30<sney>fix: if anything goes wrong with the nvidia installer, you'll have to ask #nvidia on irc.freenode.net . debian has a different way of installing nvidia drivers that is easier to troubleshoot/upgrade
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22:32<cozminsky>howdy all
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22:38<i___>guys what's the package that allows openjdk to work tith iceweasel?
22:38<i___>with
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22:40<i___>i'm stuck
22:41<cozminsky>icedtea6-plugin
22:41<i___>thanx man
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22:50<fix>new years resolution NO MORE MICROSOFT!!
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22:56<i___>i can't find the icedtea6-plugin in synaptic. running lxde
22:59<i___>does lxde has it's own package manager at all?
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22:59<i___>i know, it's stupid questions
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22:59<fix>oh man this runs divx right out of the box
22:59<fix>nice
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23:16<innsett>So whats everyone up to?
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23:21<fix>enjoying my new debian OS
23:21<fix>free of MS and stretching my legs a bit
23:21<fix>and watching star wars 4 across my lan
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23:44<Roofus901>hi, erm, i mounted an iso with the mount -o loop command and after umount to unmount the iso it is still present in file browser
23:44<Roofus901>how can i get rid of that?
23:45<Roofus901>it's in the places category
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