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#debian IRC Logs for 2011-01-01

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01:41<nhydock>is there anyone here that could help inform me more about some of the google code-in tasks
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01:56<acu_>happy New Year Debianers !
01:57<acu_>Let's start with simple questions - I have a symlink and I want to change it - how should I do it ?
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01:59<netgod>acu: either rm and ln -s a new link (my preferred way), or, if youre feeling lucky, ln -sf the new link
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02:05<acu_>netgod: thanks for being awake and helpful - if I do a ls -l I get lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Dec 24 16:12 events -> /var/cache/powerzone/events and I want to make it to point to /videodata/events
02:06<acu_>so you sugest to do: rm events
02:06<acu_>than ln -s events /videodata/events ?
02:07<netgod>ln -s /videodata/events events
02:07<netgod>its [realname] [symlinkname]
02:14<acu_>thank you netgod
02:14<acu_>have a nice year :)
02:14<netgod>np
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02:18<acu_>netgod: maybe you now this one to - I am trying to delete 500 GB of data and I did rm -r foldername however it takes forever (means more than 2 hours and it is still not done) is any faster - better way to do that ?
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02:19<netgod>thats bizarre
02:19<acu_>indeed
02:19<acu_>something is screwed up (sorry for vulgar term)
02:20<netgod>do a df -h, wait a minute, and do df -h again -- is the filesystem emptying?
02:20<acu_>I did that - and it does - but is so slow - I mean in 3 hours 300 GB
02:20<netgod>it should take only seconds to delete any amount of data; its just a small change to the directory listings
02:21<netgod>unless youve got some weird security stuff installed
02:21<acu_>it is a deep nesting screwy format where you have folders in folders for month - week - date - hour minute - so maybe that is why
02:22<netgod>acu: is it an ext2 filesystem?
02:22<acu_>I think is ext3
02:22<acu_>what should I type to know the system
02:22<netgod>mount
02:22<acu_>though I am pretty sure is ext3
02:23<netgod>well i have no idea then -- that's never happened to me
02:24<acu_>thanks for spending few seconds and neurons and thinking about it - I will delete them how they are and change the screwy system on a more straignt forward method
02:26<netgod>in theory it should be able to handle even that pretty fast, unless youre, say, trying to rm -r over NFS
02:27<netgod>but then again, i barely have 150GB of data, so its not like i've tried it
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02:27<acu_>by the way - if I have let's say 5 folders 1 2 3 4 and 5 can I do rm -r 1 2 3 4 5 ?
02:27<netgod>yes
02:28<acu_>thanks again netgod - see you around :)
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04:27<dutchfish>hi, can someone commment on this: libvirtd: 09:21:59.840: warning : qemudStartup:1832 : Unable to create cgroup for driver: No such device or address | libvirtd: 09:22:05.903: warning : lxcStartup:1900 : Unable to create cgroup for driver: No such device or address | see: http://www.mail-archive.com/libvir-list@redhat.com/msg15612.html (Debian squeeze x86_64)
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04:28<B10H4Z4RD0US>#channel_of_naz
04:29<valdyn>dutchfish: are you running a debian kernel or your own?
04:31<dutchfish>valdyn: ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-29
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04:31<dutchfish>valdyn: since last kernel update (sorry i didnt report earlier)
04:32<valdyn>dutchfish: ls /dev/cgroup
04:32<dutchfish>valdyn: qemu 0.12.5+dfsg-3
04:33<dutchfish>valdyn: ls -la /dev/cgroup gives zilch (not existing)
04:33<valdyn>dutchfish: did you read that redhat mail?
04:34<valdyn>dutchfish: is that warning all you get? ( should not be a fatal error )
04:34<valdyn>!cgroup
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04:34<dutchfish>valdyn: yes, i can manually do that from userspace .... but that wasnt needed before the last upgrade
04:34<dutchfish>valdyn: its non fatal, sure
04:34<valdyn>dutchfish: before the last upgrade of qemu
04:35<dutchfish>valdyn: my real q is, what is the right way to handle this the 'debian way' ?
04:35<valdyn>dutchfish: cgroups are not new, but using cgroups to generally improve linux responsiveness is a new idea
04:35<dutchfish>valdyn: yes
04:35<valdyn>dutchfish: create an fstab entry for this
04:36<dutchfish>valdyn: okidoki
04:36<dutchfish>valdyn: thanks
04:36<valdyn>dutchfish: few weeks ago it was "discovered" that linux will get significantly better responsiveness if you put everything into its own cgroup
04:37<valdyn>dutchfish: which is funny considering cgroups have existed for a while
04:37<dutchfish>valdyn: yes, i tested that patch in 2.6.36.2 but the useland implementation is much better
04:37<valdyn>dutchfish: obviously the qemu devs just picked that up ( or t he libvirtd devs, whatever )
04:37<dutchfish>valdyn: and more flexable
04:37<dutchfish>yes
04:38<valdyn>dutchfish: well, ideally you could just ignore that warning and linux would do the right thing by default, but thats not going to happen before 2.6.37 or 2.6.38
04:38<dutchfish>valdyn: fyi, the cgroups implemented in userland have a tremendous impact while running vm's graphically from a remote (positive effect)
04:39<valdyn>dutchfish: i see
04:39<valdyn>dutchfish: i do use this, but i dont really notice a difference subjectively
04:40<valdyn>dutchfish: but my workload never really gave me issues with latency
04:40<dutchfish>valdyn: > 2.6.36.2 and latest 2.6.37-rc8 seam to have a bigger benifit then the older kernels, i believe the big kernel lock is done in 2.6.37-rc7 and beyond
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04:41<dutchfish>valdyn: but at the moment i stick to squeeze stock kernel for debugging out the last glitches
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04:43<dutchfish>valdyn: thanks again for the response !
04:43<valdyn>dutchfish: welcome
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05:44<bill>i created a key-pair using keygen in windows, works well with putty, i have tried to ssh-add the private key in my linux box, keeps asking for a paraphase but i never orginally made one.....
05:45<bill>do no need a paraphrase?
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05:49<valdyn>bill: whats the point of having a passphrase?
05:50<valdyn>*poof*
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08:05<nbca>If you need help for something, where do I turn to?
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08:06<netgod>nbca: depends on the nature of the technological emergency
08:07<nbca>netgod, it's just my sounddriver not working with the default kernel in testing
08:07<locklace>nbca: jesus seems to be a favourite. ymmv
08:07<nbca>lockeer, :)
08:07<nbca>locklace, :)
08:07*netgod prefers the Church of Emacs
08:08<locklace>nbca: what's the output of "cat /proc/asound/cards"
08:08<nbca> 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
08:08<nbca> HDA Intel at 0xf5e00000 irq 22
08:08<nbca> 1 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
08:08<nbca> HDA ATI HDMI at 0xf0030000 irq 17
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08:09<ompaul>!paste
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08:09<ompaul>nbca: the bot does not like it
08:09<nbca>Right.. of course stupid me
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08:09<nbca>http://paste.debian.net/103568/
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08:10<locklace>nbca: which of those do you want to use
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08:10<nbca>locklace, My original plan was to get both working with pulseaudio, so that I can switch between them
08:10<nbca>locklace, though HDMI is really a low priority
08:11<locklace>nbca: does 'speaker-test -t wav -c 2' produce any sound?
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08:12<nbca>locklace, It does not
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08:12<locklace>nbca: that usually indicates a mixer settings problem. fire up alsamixer and play around with things while leaving the speaker-test running
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08:14<nbca>locklace, I will try! thanks
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08:16<nbca>locklace, the driver didn't enter the kernel before 2.6.34 according to http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_34, would it help upgrade from testins 2.6.32?
08:16<locklace>nbca: the fact that your devices appear in /proc/asound/cards shows that the kernel sees them just fine.
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08:16<nbca>locklace, alright
08:17<locklace>note that the debian kernels contain various changes and additions on top of the stock linux version
08:18<locklace>however, there is a possibility that while the kernel detects it, the driver still isn't working properly, in which case trying a newer kernel would make sense. but it's more likely just to be a mixer settings issue
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08:19<nbca>locklace, there is sound in my headphones now it's just _really_ low even though all settings are mixed, I'll fiddle a bit more with it
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08:26<ric>ciao a tutti
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08:35<ComradeHaz`>Hi all. I have a server that I have not had a monitor connected to (or a keyboard or mouse) and have accessed it purley with ssh or vnc. I now wish to connect a screen to it with DVI but when I connect up I get no signal from it. Is there anything other than rebooting that I can do to bring up the vide output?
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08:39<ComradeHaz`>Hmm, I have a similar issue with the sound. There is no output from the optical output. It's possible this is disabled in BIOS. Is there a way to check before I go rebooting?
08:41<nbca>ComradeHaz`, my sound problem probably relates to the kernel since it works fine with the 2.6.36 kernel in another distro
08:42<ComradeHaz`>nbca: you missunderstandify ;)
08:42<nbca>ComradeHaz`, probably
08:42<nbca>:)
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08:44<locklace>nbca: there is a 2.6.37 kernel package in experimental you can try if you want
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08:44<locklace>ComradeHaz`: going through the dmesg output will tell you the devices the kernel sees, as will groveling around in /sys
08:45<locklace>ComradeHaz`: lspci -k is also useful
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08:45<ComradeHaz`>Uh hu?
08:46<nbca>lockeer, I'll see what I can do
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08:50<ComradeHaz`>So, locklace, the only video related thing lspci -k displays is "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 LE]"
08:51<ComradeHaz`>Does that mean the card is doing that thing whereby only the vga port is live because nothing was connected to the DVI on boot?
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08:52<ComradeHaz`>Also, apparently 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
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08:54<nbca>what is the name of the metapackage for the kernel?
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09:27<nbca>locklace, thanks it works now :)
09:27<nbca>And once the headers get final the graphics will as well
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10:04<aldo>hi all
10:04<aldo>!list
10:04<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
10:04<aldo>perchè?
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10:06<aldo>c'è qualcuno?
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10:15<mesho>hey all
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10:15<mesho>can i log other user account from root user ?
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10:16<KeithWard>mesho: just kill their session
10:16<mesho>can any one help ?
10:17<mesho>?
10:19<KeithWard>mesho: if u have their pts number. (you can take it from the output of: w) . use skill pts/<theirnumber> to log them out
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10:19<KeithWard>careful not to log yourself out tho :)
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10:30<ComradeHaz`>â°â[:)] % man rmmod | grep name
10:30<ComradeHaz`> rmmod [ -f ] [ -w ] [ -s ] [ -v ] [ modulename ]
10:30<ComradeHaz`>How do I establish 'modulename'?
10:31<Kristian>lsmod -- but that question might indicate that you're in over your head
10:32<ComradeHaz`>Hehe, almost certainly
10:33<ComradeHaz`>permanent state of affairs for me :D
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10:34<Kristian>well, as long as you're not doing it on a machine of importance, then I don't see the harm
10:34<ComradeHaz`>Oh it's important
10:34<ComradeHaz`>It's my home server
10:35<Kristian>right, so "important" in this case doesn't mean that a reboot will cost you your job :)
10:35<ComradeHaz`>True, just penis size :D
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10:39<ComradeHaz`>Kristian: what I am trying to do is rmmod and then modprobe my gpu as the system was booted with no monitor attached to the dvi input and I'm hopijng doing this will bring it up
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10:40<ComradeHaz`>lspci -k shows details about it but not it's name afaict
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10:42<Kristian>what video card do you have?
10:42<jhutchins_lt>ComradeHaz`: Your kernel modules shouldn't care about your monitor.
10:43<jhutchins_lt>ComradeHaz`: What release are you running?
10:43<ComradeHaz`>'unstable'
10:43<jhutchins_lt>X modules are not handled by the lsmod/modprobe/rmmod utilities.
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10:45<Kristian>I'm still curious what video card you've got.
10:45<jhutchins_lt>Unstable has released several broken video drivers lately though. If you want to learn how to manage these things you should be running stable so that you eliminate the probability of broken packages.
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10:51<HG>hi
10:51<netgod>hi
10:52<HG>any1 can help me, how to see graphical desktop, after im logged in my server over SSH?
10:53<HG>when i use xvncviewer localhost, i get "Can't open display:" error
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10:54<HG>any1 can help me ?
10:54<netgod>youve logged into one linux box from another linux box?
10:54<HG>no, from win7 machine
10:54<HG>using putty
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10:59<netgod>HG: i havent tried it myself, but from the docs, it looks like you should use the SSH shell to start vncserver on your server, and then run a VNC client on your win7 box (e.g. TightVNC 2.0.2) to connect to the graphical desktop
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11:01<HG>problem is, win 7 and linux is not in same LAN
11:03*netgod shrugs
11:03<netgod>if you can ssh to it, then VNC should work as well, unless ports 5800 or 5900 are blocked by a firewall
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11:17<inkbottle>Hi, I'm planning a new low-end desktop. I was wondering if the intel i3 "with the integrated gpu stuff", would be a good choice? (could the integrated gpu be an issue, or everything i fine there?)
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11:18<KeithWard>I wouldnt forsee it being a major issue, what GPU is it, any ideas?
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11:20<inkbottle>KeithWard: the gpu is a gma... (I've got gma on ibm machines and they are just fine) (I try to check what gma it is)
11:21<KeithWard>yea most GPU's should be ok, some of the more obscure ones can be a bit :S but generally they should be fine
11:25<inkbottle>KeithWard: it is some "gma hd" i don't know more so far. But what would you think about the fact that it is "integrated" in the cpu chip?
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11:27<samantha->it's fine ink. i sell lots of them.
11:29<KeithWard>there ya go :p
11:29<inkbottle>great, how much for one?
11:29<inkbottle>samantha-: more seriously you say it's ok?
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11:31<samantha->we don't see customers complaining about them
11:34<samantha->and as for how much, less than cost, but in-store only. closest store to you is probably yonkers, new york.
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11:37<inkbottle>:-)
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12:08<jhutchins_lt>I think you'll find that the GPU is integrated with the motherboard chipset, not the CPU on an i3.
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12:08<jhutchins_lt>i3/i5/i7 are the successors to the Core2 and are conventional multi-core processors.
12:09<jhutchins_lt>You'll want to stick with lenny though, squeeze is having teething pains on intell graphics.
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12:20<maxime_>WhoIs acu
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12:21<lapfrog>hi guys how do i see my hard drives (make, model)?
12:22<lapfrog>lspci only shows the controllers, not the hdd's
12:22<cahoot>lshw, hdparm f ex
12:22<lapfrog>ty
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12:24<home-alone>hi . I force mounted my NTFS drives in Debian . But now xp does not boot anymore it gives blue screen
12:25<cahoot>time to go all linux
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12:26<home-alone>well my other family members use xp
12:26<lapfrog>yeah not everyone is elitist
12:26<cahoot>really?
12:27<lapfrog>http://unmotivationalposters.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=96&g2_serialNumber=3
12:27<deepa>home-alone: you should ask people who use XP on how to repair it
12:27<lapfrog>home-alone, did you try a fsck from linux?
12:27<home-alone>I can repair XP . I am worried it will over-write grub
12:27<lapfrog>home-alone, alternately, you could reinstall windows
12:27<lapfrog>home-alone, if it overwrites grub, you can use the netinst bootable cd to repair that
12:28<lapfrog>that's what i did
12:28<home-alone>what if I use recue fron Debian CD
12:28<home-alone>rescue
12:28<lapfrog>same thing, i think
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12:28<lapfrog>as long as you boot up with 'rescue'
12:29<lapfrog>then you choose a chroot console and just run update-grub and grub-install
12:29<lapfrog>or just grub-install, not sure
12:29<lapfrog>just try both
12:29<lapfrog>be sure to install in the MBR
12:30<lapfrog>home-alone, but you might want to try a bootable XP cd and try to chkdisk that partition
12:30<home-alone>ok . but I am afraid all ntfs drives will become un-mounted again
12:30<lapfrog>home-alone, no
12:30<lapfrog>unmounted how? not present in /etc/fstab/
12:30<lapfrog>?
12:31<home-alone>I can not read/write them . I installed disk manager and forced mounted them . but this method currpoted xp
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12:31<lapfrog>home-alone, did you use ntfs3g?
12:33<lapfrog>home-alone, how about fix your drives and come back when you're done :P
12:33<home-alone>ya ...libfuse2 andl ntfs-3g bith
12:33<home-alone>both
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12:40<home-alone>ok . I will repair xp . if it hurts my mounted ntfs drives in Debian . I will get help from you guyz .
12:40<home-alone>thank you so much
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13:13<zeus>Hi all, i'm trying to configure my new UPS. It's connected to a USB port. The managment software ask me to enter the device address (default is /dev/ttys$1). How can i know which is the right address ? i think ttys should be for rs232 ports. May anyone help please ?
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13:21<ompaul>zeus: depends on your ups I found USB cable and the installing the right software from the repo and it worked see this for additional info http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/how-to-determine-usb-port-tty-value-735648/
13:22<ompaul>zeus: apt-cache search ups | grep power
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13:24<zeus>ompaul: i wa reading about NUT and upsd. But i thin i have a different problem ... I think my linux box has trouble detecting UPS usb port. Here is what happen when i plug the usb cable to the linux box.
13:24<zeus>http://pastebin.com/kf7LmPFi
13:25<zeus>it seems like i have to add a kernel module o driver or something similar priot to configure the ups managment software. don't you think ?
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13:26<ompaul>zeus: what software are you using?
13:27<zeus>at the moment i'm tryin the built'in software (the ups has a software cdrom). it's name is upsioln
13:27<zeus>sorry it's name is upsilon
13:28<ompaul>zeus: try the repos for genpower it tends to just work
13:28<zeus>ompaul: install ??
13:28<ompaul>zeus: yes
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13:31<zeus>installed ... it tell me to configure /etc/genpowerd.conf ... in this file i have to enter the UPSPORT.
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13:32<ompaul>zeus: let me log into work and check what I stuck in there
13:32<zeus>default is /dev/ups which doesn't exist
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13:32<zeus>ompaul: thank you for your help !
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13:35<ompaul>zeus: I can't find it ... looking at the boxes I thought it was in
13:35<ompaul>hang on I have it in another box
13:35<zeus>do not worry ... i'm here !
13:37<ompaul>ttyS0
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13:38<ompaul>however I used a different tool - powstatd
13:38<ompaul>zeus: no idea why I thought I was using genpower
13:39<zeus>is your ups usb ?
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13:47<zeus>ompaul: may i know if are you using a serial RS-232 or usb port to control your UPS ?
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13:49<haggl>heyho, happy new year everyone!
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13:52<haggl__>i'm having a little trouble getting sound to work, can anyone help me?
13:53<sney>start here:
13:53<sney>!alsa checklist
13:53<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer to unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>.
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13:56<haggl__>1) did that already 2) check 3) not even installed 4) jip 5) nope 6) already probed 7) those too were not even installed
13:57<jordanm>haggl__: what is the pciid of the card? lspci -nn
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13:57<haggl__>00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio [8086:3b56] (rev 06)
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13:58<jordanm>,pciid 8086:3b56
13:58<judd>[8086:3b56] is '5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio' from 'Intel Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:3b56
13:58<sney>haggl__: is snd_hda_intel loaded if you do lsmod?
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13:58<jordanm>haggl__: what version of debian are you trying to get it to work on?
13:58<haggl__>sney: jip
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13:58<haggl__>jordanm: squeeze
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13:59<jordanm>haggl__: should be standard with snd_hda_intel then
13:59<jordanm>nothing obscure about the card or driver
13:59<haggl__>jordanm: yes, it SHOULD work
13:59<sney>is this a laptop? is there a physical volume wheel?
13:59<haggl__>jordanm: but it doesn't ;-)
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14:00<haggl__>sney: no, it's tower
14:00<haggl__>sney: ASUS P7P55D-E motherboard
14:00<sney>what do you get if you do cat /proc/asound/cards
14:00<sney>how many entries
14:01<haggl__> 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
14:01<haggl__> HDA Intel at 0xf3ff8000 irq 22
14:01<sney>ok, that's correct
14:01<sney>hmm
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14:02<haggl__>i used xset b off to turn the system bell off in X, but i guess that's not the problem?
14:03<sney>no, that just silences beeps
14:03<haggl__>sney: ok
14:04*jordanm just blacklists pcspkr
14:05<sney>haggl__: is it known to work in $other-os?
14:05<haggl__>sney: i don't get it. i have installed all required packages, the kernel modules are probed, the card is recognized, there are no error msgs (at least none that i am aware of)... so what?
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14:06<haggl__>sney: yes. sound in WinXP works beautifully
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14:06<haggl__>jordanm: but that would disable it entirely, not just for X, ain't that right?
14:06<jordanm>haggl__: yep. I never want to hear beeping :)
14:06<sney>there isn't really a practical use for the pc speaker after POST
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14:07<haggl__>sney: hmm, could that thing interfere with alsa sound?
14:07<sney>it's super unlikely
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14:08<haggl__>sney: well, so i'll leave it. :-)
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14:08<jordanm>haggl__: are you running pulse?
14:08<stinkyfax>hi guys, my apt-get and aptitude get stuck at 'connecting to hostname' for few minutes then keeps going through
14:08<haggl__>sney: if there were any error messages, where would i find them?
14:08<stinkyfax>i guess it's DNS resolve issues?
14:08<sney>haggl__: in dmesg
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14:08<haggl__>jordanm: what is pulse? :-)
14:09-!-mode/#debian [+l 432] by debhelper
14:09<jordanm>haggl__: a sound server used to allow sound to multiple applications
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14:09<jordanm>pulseaudio
14:10<haggl__>sney: ok, dmesg | grep hda gives: hda-intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x01ef0100
14:10<stinkyfax>ok, mind someone to tell me where can i see settings for dns resolve config
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14:10<haggl__>sney: but according to alsa.org that's no problem
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14:10<sney>haggl__: it's beyond my expertise at this point, maybe #alsa on freenode will have more insights
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14:11<sney>and if you solve it, please come back and tell us how
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14:13<jordanm>stinkyfax: /etc/resolv.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf
14:15<stinkyfax>jordanm: thanks
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14:16<stinkyfax>jordanm: is there any file which tells which method / library to use for resolving
14:16<haggl__>jordanm: no, i'm not using pulseaudio, do i need it?
14:17<jordanm>stinkyfax: /etc/nsswitch.conf
14:17<jordanm>haggl__: no
14:17<stinkyfax>jordanm: lovely, thanks
14:17<jordanm>haggl__: sounds like you may have hit a kernel bug judging from your message
14:17<stinkyfax>jordanm: and might giving me a better command than 'ping' to check dns?
14:17<jordanm>haggl__: you can use module-assistant to build new alsa modules from the alsa-source package
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14:18<jordanm>stinkyfax: dig foobar.com
14:18<jordanm>dnsutils package IIRC
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14:22<stinkyfax>is there any global DNS i can try using to compare to? i left only "dns" in hosts line in nsswitch.conf file
14:23<jordanm>stinkyfax: you should leave "files" in place. what do you mean global dns?
14:23<jordanm>a neutral DNS server to check how quickly it resolves? 8.8.8.8
14:24<ne0>need help installing b43 drivers
14:24<jordanm>!tell ne0 about b43
14:24<stinkyfax>jordanm: ok, so I can try using dns server 8.8.8.8
14:24<jordanm>stinkyfax: dig @8.8.8.8 foo.com
14:25<ne0>jordanm i cant use the wifi card i have already install the b43-fcutter
14:25<ne0>jordanm i might be missing a step ?
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14:27<stinkyfax>jordanm: something is very wrong :( dig takes ~15ms with old dns server and 8.8.8.8 kinda same, ping works fine as well. but as soon as i try apt-get / aptitud etc it get stuck at 'connecting to security.debian.org' for 2 minuts. btw i've tried differe nt etc/apt/sources.list addresses
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14:28<jordanm>stinkyfax: yeah its round-robin DNS and it looks like one of the mirrors is having issue atm
14:29<jordanm>err was atleast
14:29<stinkyfax>ah, so the issue might be not related?
14:30<stinkyfax>to my server*
14:30<stinkyfax>it's new server i bought so i don't know whether it was before or not
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14:31<stinkyfax>0% [Connecting to ftp.debian.org (2001:610:1908:a000::149:226)]
14:31<jordanm>maybe ipv6 is your problem there
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14:33<haggl>jordanm: thanks for your m-a trick, it worked
14:33<haggl>jordanm: but why?
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14:34<jordanm>haggl: not sure. I have heard of a similar issue before. Might want to bug report it if there is not already an existing one
14:34<jordanm>good to see it worked :)
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14:34<haggl>jordanm: but doesn't m-a simply compile the source code?
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14:35<haggl>jordanm: in that case it should make no difference
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14:35<jordanm>haggl: it does if the alsa modules are a different version in alsa-source than shipped with the kernel
14:35<jordanm>which I can only assume is the case
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14:37<PeterNL>Hi, how do I rep cd's to Mp3 with Sound Juicer? (can't use ogg, it's for an old mp3 player)
14:37<PeterNL>rip*
14:37<PeterNL>The MP3 profiles aren't listed where they should
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14:41<peej>broadcom 4315 is what I have according to dmesg, broadcom 4312 is what I have according to lspci. I use the wl module according to the instructions in http://wiki.debian.org/wl, but I can't set essid with iwconfig. The led indicating wireless module is in use remains unlit too. clues?
14:45<PeterNL>Hi, I cannot rip cd's to mp3 with sound juicer, the MP3 profiles aren't listed in the sound juicer preferences window
14:46<jhutchins_lt>PeterNL: I can't drive a nail with this banana either. Why not find an mp3 ripping tool? aptitude search mp3?
14:47<PeterNL>One which doesn't use gstreamer I guess?
14:47<devil>PeterNL: is lame installed?
14:47<jhutchins_lt>I doubt very much that gstreamer has anything to do with it.
14:47<sney>peej: try bringing the interface up with ifconfig first
14:47<PeterNL>Wich exact package do I need? I do habe gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 if that matters
14:48<devil>PeterNL: first of all you need lame, which is as non-fre as it gets
14:48<devil>PeterNL: its in the debian-multimedia repo iirc
14:48<PeterNL>I don't really care about free(speech)ness, al long as it is free(beer)
14:49<PeterNL>(I don't have a choice...)
14:49<devil>some do, so i mention it
14:49<PeterNL>I use ogg when I can, because mp3 is a mess... But for my old mp3 player I have to.
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14:51<devil>after installing lame, you can get one of the many tools to convert
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14:51<PeterNL>will sound-juicer work when I install lame?
14:51<jhutchins_lt>,info acidrip
14:51<judd>No record of package 'acidrip' in lenny/i386.
14:51<peej>Sney, interface is up via ifconfig already.
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14:51<jhutchins_lt>,versions acidrip
14:51<judd>Package acidrip on i386 -- etch-multimedia: 0.14-0.2; lenny-multimedia: 0.14-0.3
14:52<jhutchins_lt>,info acidrip
14:52<judd>No record of package 'acidrip' in lenny/i386.
14:52<jhutchins_lt>no info on dmm then.
14:52<devil>sound-juicer will do
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14:52<jhutchins_lt>,info ripit
14:52<judd>Package ripit (sound, optional) in lenny/i386: Textbased audio cd ripper. Version: 3.6.0-1; Size: 80.0k; Installed: 312k
14:52<peej>I moved the lenny kernel to bpo latest, no luck there either.
14:52<devil>i prefer asunder lately
14:53<jhutchins_lt>,info ogmrip
14:53<judd>No record of package 'ogmrip' in lenny/i386.
14:53<qq->grip - GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder
14:53<devil>,info asunder
14:53<judd>No record of package 'asunder' in lenny/i386.
14:53<qq->PeterNL, ^^
14:54<devil>they seem to die like flies ;)
14:54<jhutchins_lt>devil: I think they tend to be in dmm and judd doesn't do info on dmm.
14:54<PeterNL>Hmmm, installing gstreamer0.10-lame and libmp3lame0 fixed sound-juicer
14:54<devil>jhutchins_lt: asunder is still in unstable
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14:56<devil>and yes, dmm is nothing i really want to recommend.
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14:58<krazykit>i'm having trouble installing the bootloader during a squeeze installation. trying to run grub-installer from a shell, it says i'm missing grub-probe. is there a way to see a log of the failure?
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14:59<PeterNL>Okay,on to the nest problem: http://pastebin.com/dfJ28a6f my profile doesn't show up
14:59<PeterNL>next*
14:59<kop>krazykit: I thought that alt-f3 is the log. Could be wrong.
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15:00<PeterNL>afaik it's alt-f4
15:00<krazykit>tty4 appears to be the kernel log, but i see nothing about why grub-installer is actually failing
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15:01<peej>hmmm. I seem to have a manual toggle for wireless. I need to look up the emoticon for facepalm.
15:01<devil>PeterNL: did you restart the app after setting the profile
15:01<PeterNL>yep, I did
15:01<devil>no idea then
15:01<krazykit>all i get is "grub-installer: info: Calling 'apt-install grub-pc' failed"
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15:01<PeterNL>krazykit: call it yourself on another tty
15:02<peej>yup. all works now. what an evil feature.
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15:02<krazykit>i did. no output
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15:02<PeterNL>Hmmm, weird...
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15:45<spooLish>any hoes in here
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15:53<lapfrog>yo we full o' ho's
15:53<spooLish>lol
15:53<spooLish>http://217.26.212.32/
15:54<sney>you... installed apache. congratulations.
15:54<spooLish>lol
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15:59<spooLish>crackers with dos n cheese yummy
16:00<spooLish>Queries: 464 new, 32743973 total Sat Jan 1 20:58:35 2011
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16:03<spooLish>http://67.55.108.167
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16:07<sney>!ops spooLish
16:07<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: sney complains about: spooLish
16:08<spooLish>lol
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16:24<FolkFighter>hey guys
16:25<FolkFighter>Does anyone here know how to get more IV's when gathering packets
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16:26<spooLish>FolkFighter ya
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16:26<spooLish>for wep?
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16:53<domino>hello :) I have a quick question regarding bans on #debian. Where can you discuss a ban??
16:54<valdyn>!ban
16:54<dpkg>ban is, like, a way of getting rid of annoying pests, especially trolls
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16:56<domino>valdyn: yeah, i know that. I cannot connect from my server because it says I've got banned. Fun thing is just, I had never connected from my server before :S
16:56<domino>And I have never been banned from here either. So it'
16:56<domino>it's quite weird*
16:57<valdyn>domino: not weird if you're on a dynamic ip
16:58<valdyn>domino: sometimes spammers force ops to ban whole ranges
16:58<timon>it's something called Sippenhaft in german ... you're on the same range, you're out
16:59<valdyn>domino: but.. talk to ops, i dont know a better way
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16:59<domino>hmm. okay, thanks timon & valdyn :)
17:00<timon>good luck convincing the ops :)
17:00<domino>lol, thanks. I don't even know who to write to :D
17:01<domino>as far as i can see, there's no ops in here :o
17:01<timon>try #debian-ops
17:03<domino>there's no ops either :o
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17:04<domino>but I actually have a debian-related question instead :) -- how do i force a user to log out of the system?
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17:05<Slacket>mornin'
17:05<domino>good morning :D (here though, it is evening)
17:06<sney>I believe you can kill their login shell, though I haven't tried it and it may not work in X
17:06<domino>ok
17:06<domino>i will give it a try :)
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17:06<cameleonc>hi
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17:10<ComradeHaz`>Hi all. I have a machine I have used exclusevly remotely for the last year or so (ie I only access it via vnc and ssh) and I did something to stop it starting an X session when booting. Can anyone tell me what I probably did and how to make it such that my display manager does, in fact, now load?
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17:11<timon>domino: there's a couple of #debian*-ops online in the -ops chan, (according to the users list and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/Operators). just try stating your issue? :)
17:11<timon>they might not be going around asking people why they joined...
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17:12<timon>ComradeHaz`: did you get any error message?
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17:13<devil>ComradeHaz`: did you edit /etc/inittab?
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17:14<ComradeHaz`>Don't recall so, devil, can you be mroe specific?
17:15<timon>ComradeHaz`: are you able to start an X session manually?
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17:16<ComradeHaz`>no, timon, I get 'no screens found'
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17:17<timon>ComradeHaz`: like in "no screens found"[in xorg.conf]?
17:17<ComradeHaz`>What do you mean?
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17:17<devil>ComradeHaz`: the default initlevel is determined there with initdefault
17:18<ComradeHaz`>in xorg.conf?
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17:18<ComradeHaz`>I don't have the variable initdefault anywhere in my xorg.conf
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17:19<timon>ComradeHaz`: /etc/X11/xorg.conf specifies a couple of devices to be used by X, amongst others the screens. I'm just wondering if it would drop a note saying "no screens found" if there is no screen defined in xorg.conf
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17:20<ComradeHaz`>Hmm, I don't think that's the issue but it has given me an idea :)
17:20<devil>i was on about inittab, but thats notut thats not your prob
17:20<ComradeHaz`>Indeed. I think the issue is twofold.
17:21<ComradeHaz`>One, I think I have done something to stop X autostarting and two I think the xorg is all messed up as it refers to nvidia drivers that have been uninstalled.
17:21<ComradeHaz`>Currently dealing with the latter.
17:22<timon>ComradeHaz`: maybe X is trying to autostart but can't due to faulty configuration?
17:22<devil>Celelib_: sry, i have a terrible lag atm
17:22<ComradeHaz`>timon: I am confident I disabled it.
17:23<timon>so enabling it would be a first step? ;)
17:23<ComradeHaz`>Well, I think it'll run, I think I just disabled auto run.
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17:28<domino>what are shortcuts to binaries called? don't remember the name of themm :/
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17:30<domino>i want to be able to run commands like command instead of ./command
17:30<domino>so I guess I should just put a shortcut for a binary in the /bin/ folder`?
17:30<domino>problem is just I don't remember how to do thatr
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17:32<timon>using ln?
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17:33<saha>Hi!
17:33<saha>Does anybody know how to deal with mdx image format?
17:33<timon>ln -s (path/to/target) (path/where/link/should/appear/name)
17:33<saha>Mounting it/Converting to ISO
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17:34<dvs>domino: What you're looking for is to put the current directory in your PATH.
17:34<ComradeHaz`>timon: seems I was mostly wrong :D
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17:35<timon>dvs: might be a more elegant way of doing it ... but somehow I think we might be introducing a security hole there
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17:36<dvs>timon: it is a definite security hole, I wouldn't do it myself.
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17:37<DrumScum>it's perfectly fine when you put the pwd at the end of your $PATH
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17:38<saha>So, how to deal with mdx? any help?
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17:41<timon>saha: afaik there's no easy linux-based way of dealing with mdx images. daemon tools is said to be working, though
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17:41<ompaul>DrumScum: I'd have to disagree with you in that case, that is why we have ./ I might have an archive called /usr/local/oldfoo and it has a script an earlier version of /usr/local/foo
17:42<saha>timon: is it possible to convert it to something more usable under linux?
17:42<ompaul>so typing foo and ./foo in the latter case I'll be looking at the prompt and hopefully reading it ;-) typing ./foo are two characters that might save me from a mistake :)
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17:43<timon>saha: once you can access the image's contents, you can create a more easily accessible image file
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17:45<saha>timon: not really sure if I can
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17:47<timon>saha: do you think you could get daemon tools up and running on your own?
17:47<seriousstorm85>i, I have installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop.....On the grub, it displayed ubuntu 10.10 and my Windows 7.......I then used Update manager and it updated my kernel, it prompted it for a restart, after the restart, grub no longer had my windows 7.....i then tried going to boot/grub/menu.lst but the file doesn't exist so I don't know how to add my windows 7 back on the grub
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17:48<ComradeHaz`>seriousstorm85: There is a channel for ubuntu support on freenode
17:48<timon>seriousstorm85: try asking that one in #ubuntu
17:49<seriousstorm85>thanks guys
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17:52<DrumScum>@ompaul: doesn't really matter as long as the pwd is at the end of the path
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17:53<DrumScum>the 'foo' in the pwd will only be called as long as there isn't a foo in the rest of your $PATH
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17:56<saha>timon: not sure, actually, I am trying to help my gf
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17:57<saha>but i 'll try running daemon tools under wine
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18:01<timon>saha: according to daemon tools support you won't be able to get it running on anything else than windows
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18:08<yazir>im running debian squeeze on an asus eeepc with xdm/lxde. whenever it goes to standby or hibernation my wireless comes back up but its unable to get an ip address.
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18:09<yazir>(im running a broadcom wireless card with a driver i compiled from the proprietary firmware)
18:10<yazir>has anyone experienced a problem like this or have any idea how to fix it?
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18:12<DrumScum>yazir: what model?
18:13<yazir>asus eeepc 1015pn, Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4727]
18:14<DrumScum>I have the BCM43225 in my lappy, and got it to work following the very good instructions on the Debian Wiki
18:14<timon>saha: the best I could find was http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ with support for mds/msf. either you're lucky or you could try to assist in developing the code for handling mdx images :)
18:14<yazir>thats what i used
18:16<yazir>as far as i can tell its something with the run levels but im not really sure whats shutting down and what isnt coming back up
18:17<yazir>ive tried reloading the broadcom driver and the networking module but neither of those worked
18:18<yazir>it doesnt effect the ethernet either
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18:21<DrumScum>yazir: you got the firmware?
18:21<yazir>yeah
18:21<DrumScum>for your device I think you should install the package firmware-b43-installer
18:22<ComradeHaz`>Hi all, as I mentioned earlier a few months ago I did something to stop X running on the local display on boot but I have forgotten what it was! In fact, X won't run on the local display at all. When i try to run X I get teh following in syslog: "Jan 1 23:15:06 Hades kdm[27654]: X server for display :0 cannot be started, session disabled
18:22<ComradeHaz`>"
18:22<ComradeHaz`>Has anyone got any idea what I've done?
18:23<devil>ComradeHaz`: if it was ot innittab, it might have been kdmrc
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18:24<ComradeHaz`>What am I looking for in inittab?
18:24<devil>ComradeHaz`: initdefault
18:24<pabs>anyone good at pixel art? want to draw us some bugs? http://www.debianart.org/cchost/?ccm=/thread/24
18:24<ComradeHaz`>What should it say?
18:25<ComradeHaz`>Currently: "id:2:initdefault:"
18:25<devil>ComradeHaz`: it has the default runlevel at the beginning
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18:25<ComradeHaz`>so should be 7?
18:25<ComradeHaz`>or is it 5?
18:25<ompaul>id:5:initdefault:
18:25<devil>7 does not exist :)
18:25<ComradeHaz`>Yeah, was being a muppet and thinking tty7 ;)
18:25<ComradeHaz`>I know that's something totally different ;)
18:26<domino>timon: thanks btw! hadn't seen you had replied :)
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18:26<ComradeHaz`>Do I need to restart any services having changed that?
18:26<timon>np, domino :)
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18:27<DrumScum>yazir: apparently you don't need firmware-b43-installer, but firmware-bcrm80211
18:28<ompaul>ComradeHaz`: try /etc/init.d/gdm start or kdm depending on your whatever you could try xdm but I doubt if you were running that
18:28<DrumScum>see instructions @ http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211
18:28<DrumScum>those should get you up and running
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18:29<yazir>hmm
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18:29<yazir>been using just the driver compiled from http://wiki.debian.org/wl
18:30<yazir>its the one compatible with my chipset...
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18:33<devil>yazir: your problem is not the firmware but the s2r whatever scripts
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18:36<yazir>thanks
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18:39<mohalaci>hy
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18:39<mohalaci>egy olyan kérdésem lenne, hogy a média lejátszó (alap program) a következö hibát adja amikor a youtube bövitményét akarom használni: Az automatikus csatolás meghiúsult: A(z) org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http csatolási pontja már fut
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18:42<DrumScum>devil: the 's2r' scripts? what do you mean by that?
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18:42<devil>DrumScum: suspend-to-ram (or whatever)
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18:43<dpkg>rumour has it, hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t.
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19:35<rootmy>hi
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19:38-debhelper:#debian-Channel locked temporarily due to flood, sorry for any inconvenience this may cause :-)
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19:40-!-mode/#debian [+mi] by debhelper
19:40-debhelper:#debian-Channel locked temporarily due to flood, sorry for any inconvenience this may cause :-)
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21:26<izzy>i'm having a seemingly simple problem: apt-get is returning "Err http://http.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages 404 Not Found", security works fine... one system with "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free" works and the other fails
21:27<izzy>err hold on
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21:28<izzy>gosh, you know those times when you can't see the forrest for the trees?
21:28<izzy>this was one
21:29<timon>:)
21:29<dvs>I thought it was http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
21:29<izzy>i'm glad i at least caught myself
21:29<izzy>it can be either
21:29<izzy>AFAIK
21:29<izzy>i've always used http://http...
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21:56<dbldtx>I've got an old laptop (Compaq Presario 2100) that does not have a wireless NIC. I would like to use it for IRC/Pidgin.
21:57<dbldtx>I've tried everything from LXDE to IceWM to fluxbox... I want to try RatPoison or StumpWM this time. Anything ya'll thing would be better than those two choices for the proposed utility it will serve?
21:58<dbldtx>Using Debian NetInst in order to keep the physical memory volume footprint as small as possible.
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22:00<customer>some how i removed the 2 little monitors at top of screen that tells about network connection how do i put them back
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22:03<customer>anyone here
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22:04<amitz>customer: what version of ubuntu is this?
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22:05<customer>it is debian 5.07
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22:05<zem_>customer: nm-applet --sm-disable
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22:08<joins>anybody know how to assign & reserve a specific port for a specific program?
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22:08<customer>zem that did not put monitiors back
22:10<zem_>do you have other notifications?
22:10<customer>no
22:11<zem_>have you removed notification area from gnome panel?
22:11<customer>i move mouse pointer over them and it move them off the top to i do not know where
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22:12<jester45>joins, look into /etc/services im not sure if that will stop programs from binding to a port
22:12<zem_>just right click gnome panel and add notification area
22:12<customer>the date is up there and the speaker and what program you are running
22:12<joins>ok, i mean "anybody know how to bind a client program to a specific port?"
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22:13<joins>that is, "this port is only used by this program for outgoing client traffic"
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22:21<jester45>i believe that its the program that must bind to a port. iptables could be used to drop all packets not from your program (on that port)
22:22<joins>that seems like it would mostly prevent the program from working b/c the vast majority of the time it would choose an outgoing port that would not be the right one and would thus be dropped
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22:24<jester45>this program does not allow you to choose what outgoing port to use?
22:24<kop>joins: The program has to request a specific port then.
22:25<joins>well, the program in question is skype... you can set a specific listen port for incoming calls but i don't think you can set ports for outgoing calls
22:26<kop>joins: There's probabaly a way to do exactly what you want, in terms of only _allowing_ one program to use a specific port, if you use selinux. But that can be a pain.
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22:26<kop>joins: Run it in a VM and allow outbound from the VM's IP.
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22:27<nutterpc>whats the best way for me to stop networkmanager from asking for a password/
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22:28<joins>nutterpc, have you looked into changing permissions of the executable?
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22:29<nutterpc>not yuet no, been too damn busy getting a shell script to work
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22:30<nutterpc>what permissions should i set?
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22:31<kop>joins: I suspect that skype will just poke a hole in your firewall and use port 80 if you wind up blocking it.
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22:32<joins>kop: i'm actually planning to run skype in a vm but even so, don't feel like trusting the whole OS/user to go unrestricted outbound... random communications are sent at various times... maybe the best bet would be to locally filter out everything but what the user generates and the listen port then on the host just allow what the client IP sends
22:32<nutterpc>joins, i spent most of the morning in the eeepc channel getting the LinuxPHC startup script working, lol
22:33<kop>joins: You're trusting skype anyway. If you've a vm just for that you may as well open it up.
22:35<joins>kop: true... probably being totally crazy about this
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22:35<joins>thanks for the suggestions, jester45, too
22:37<nutterpc>joins, any idea for the permissions thing?
22:37<joins>nutterpc: i see that the file linked to under System->Administration->Network is /usr/bin/network-admin and its permissions are 755 but if you try to direcly execute it by non-root it won't let you
22:38<joins>seems there must be some setting in gnome... if i were you i'd look into that possibility
22:38<nutterpc>yea, might also see if someone else has that prob
22:39<joins>that's always a good idea
22:40<joins>i'd like to know what you find out... may look into it a bit myself
22:40<joins>in the mean time i'm playing with networking
22:41<joins>BTW, directly accessing /usr/bin/network-admin gnome says "The configuration could not be loaded You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
22:44<ch0ta>hey i have a problem with grub, i have ubuntu 10.10 installed and today i installed backtrack, now i cannot boot ubuntu... it gives me an error and i cannot boot it
22:44<ch0ta>its on the system, i have not erase it
22:45<ch0ta>i updated the grub via console
22:47<joins>ch0ta, have you considered that you might be better served on the #ubuntu channel on freenode?
22:48<ch0ta>yeah..you're right.
22:48<ch0ta>cya
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22:48<joins>bye
22:48<joins>:-P
22:50<nutterpc>joins, found something on here
22:50<nutterpc>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776406
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22:54<joins>nutterpc: is your problem the system asking for keys or is it just being allowed to open the manager?
22:54<nutterpc>its asking for my password every time at boot
22:54<joins>your user password?
22:54<joins>or your key password?
22:55<nutterpc>key password
22:55<joins>good to know
22:57<joins>so really, your problem is "debian demands my key to access my wireless network whenever i boot... this is annoying and i would like to know if there's a way to automate this"... in my opinion this would explain your situation a little more clearly
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22:57<joins>unless i missed something
22:59<joins>so... i suppose the solution there could work, try it, let me know if it works b/c thats the kind of stuff that lots of people would care about at some point or another
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23:00<joins>the only thing i don't know about is step 1 where you add the repository, may work, may not
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23:09<kop>nutterpc: wicd is already in debian. (Installing random packages from non-debian sources is a great way to break your system.)
23:11<joins>kop: nice!
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23:17<nutterpc>joins, its all gd dude, its working as intended now. Just to find why firestarter doesnt load automatically on startup and im set
23:18<kop>nutterpc: You used the debian wicd? If not you should undo and start over or else you're bound to have trouble.
23:18<joins>could there be a configuration setting that needs to be set?
23:18<nutterpc>yes i am
23:18<nutterpc>from apt-get
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23:19<kop>nutterpc: Good.
23:19<kop>!why aptitude
23:19<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades (lenny->squeeze) apt-get is better though. Be careful.
23:20<nutterpc>gunna check something, 1 sec
23:20<joins>does synaptic use apt-get or aptitude?
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23:21<kop>joins: Synaptic is it's own thing. Gradually, functionalty is moving into libraries and being shared. I think synaptic now does what aptitude does but could be wrong. (apt-get was initially just a testbed for the apt library calls.)
23:22<joins>any idea if the people running debian consider apt-get generally deprecated?
23:23<kop>joins: aptitude has been preferred to apt-get since etch.
23:23<joins>i tried resolving some broken dependencies recently and apt-get sure didn't fix what synaptic did
23:23<kop>joins: However, when upgrading between releases always follow the release notes.
23:24<joins>kop: good to know! thanks
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