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#debian IRC Logs for 2011-01-18

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01:29<ultra420>anybody help me with my problem please?i cant change screen resolution for my desktop
01:29<ultra420>it is gnome.
01:29<ultra420>i do google for a long time but i didnt solve this problem.
01:29<ultra420>so i came here for help..thanks
01:30<soloflyer>grandr ?
01:30<ultra420>no it is useless.
01:30<ultra420>i tried xrandr arandr
01:30<soloflyer>running nvidia binary drivers?
01:31<ultra420>wohhh ,i download the binary driver for my vga :it is GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
01:31<soloflyer>try nvidia-settings
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01:32<ultra420>i try to run this . bin download from the nvidia website,but it didn't work,it is said that i have linux kernel tree..
01:32<ultra420>i ll try nvidia-settings thanks.dear soloflyer
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01:33<chealer>ultra420: just ask your question
01:33<ultra420>okay,dear chealer,i cant change my screen resolution
01:33<ultra420>i want it to 1024*768 but not 600*800
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01:34<ultra420>okay ,i ll google again and again.
01:34<ultra420>and i ll waiting here
01:34<soloflyer>ultra420: sorry i cant help more but i have to go :)
01:35<soloflyer>gl
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01:37<jm_>check your X logfile - nvidia driver relies on EDID by default
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01:40<chealer>ultra420: was that a question?
01:41<mib_5t7poy>hi, whats the difference between running commands separated by ';' and by '&&'
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01:41<jm_>; runs the following commands regardless of what happened to previous one
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01:41<mib_5t7poy>so ; doesnt wait for the previous command to complete?
01:42<jm_>it does, but its exit code doesn't matter
01:43<mib_5t7poy>iam trying to copy httpd.conf to /usr/local/apache2/conf and start apachectl. i run the commands together, separated by a ';', the httpd.conf file doesn't get copied completely.
01:44<mib_5t7poy>mv ~/httpd.conf /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf; /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start
01:44<mib_5t7poy>it ends up with a part of the original httpd.conf gile
01:44<mib_5t7poy>file
01:45<jm_>then it's either the source file that is wrong or somethign overwrites it later; try sticking cat in-between
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01:58<mib_5t7poy>and if use && between commands the second command would not execute unless the first exits successfully, right?
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02:00<chealer>mib_5t7poy: right
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02:03<mib_5t7poy>thank you :)
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02:12<cmot>Yodel!
02:12<cmot>will an iptables REJECT cause an already open tcp connection to close?
02:12<cmot>or do I need some additional magic?
02:13<cmot>(I want to forcibly cancel some connections triggered by some event that will insert ip addresses in an ipset.)
02:13<jm_>depends on where you put it etc.
02:14<cmot>jm_: the packet *will* hit the REJECT rule. I just wasn't sure what happens to already open connections
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02:14<cmot>(obviously I'll have my rule before the usual ESTABLISHED,RELATED accept rule.)
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02:15<jm_>cmot: well then it should trigger - there are also tools like cutter, but it doesn't work for every connection
02:16<cmot>jm_: I don't think cutter or similar is necessary. the connection just should be closed as soon as the next packet arrives.
02:17<cmot>(I'm using fail2ban to block some spammers, and this causes quite a few smtpd processes to hang until they run into a timeout with the default setup.)
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02:20<allenliu>hello?
02:20<allenliu>anyone?
02:20<sney>hi
02:20<allenliu>aha
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03:02<glow_wolf>I was here saturday night about a problem getting my headphones to work.
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03:03<glow_wolf>Any way i found out the problem is the mic input is switched with the headphone output.
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03:04<glow_wolf>That is if i plug headphones into mic input i get music and blow or speak in to the headphones i can record or hear sound in my speakers
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03:05<glow_wolf>The jacks are clearly labeled for what plugs where.
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03:06<glow_wolf>Its a ALC880 onboard audio chip.
03:06<glow_wolf>Has any one got any ideas?
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03:17<vook>what's the issue glow_wolf ? I just connected.
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03:17<glow_wolf>My front sound jacks are swithed
03:17<glow_wolf>Switched
03:18<glow_wolf>If i plug my headphones in to the jack labeled mic i can hear sound,music
03:19<vook> hmm, there may be a switch in alsamixer that allows you to swap the connections
03:19<glow_wolf>I hope so
03:20<vook>are you dual booting ?
03:20<bluenemo>i'm looking for a pci sata controller for 2 sata disks. can anyone advise a specific model under, say, $50?
03:20<glow_wolf>Yes
03:20<vook>glow_wolf: there may be something in Windows that has switched it
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03:21<vook>glow_wolf: does it do this in windows ?
03:21<glow_wolf>No
03:21<vook>oh nm
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03:22<glow_wolf>I just plug my headphones in to the jack with the headphone lable and the mic like wise
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03:23<vook>maybe some info here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845
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03:24<glow_wolf>Ok im looking
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03:25<vook>bluenemo: that's a bit off-topic
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03:26<bluenemo>vook, i know but ##hardware on freenode wont let me join it :( and i cant get into #hardware as its invite only.. do you guys know of a good channel for that?
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03:27<vook>3ware cards are nice, but maybe more than you need, and about $100
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03:28<vook>Just go to newegg.com and find a nice sata card, then google it's compatibility in Linux.
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03:30<vook>a lot of nice used 3ware on google shopping for under $50
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03:36<jm_>bluenemo: http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Hardware,_driver_status
03:37<bluenemo>vook, i'll look for that thank you.
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03:38<bluenemo>the good old ata wiki.. down again :(
03:38<bluenemo>http://www.downornot.com/ata.wiki.kernel.org
03:38<jm_>works here with long delays
03:38<bluenemo>lol now it works.. i'm not getting comfortable with this site :) thx for the link jm_
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04:12<glow_wolf>vook do you have any more ideas about how i might get my sound problem worked out?
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04:14<s4br3>Hi, in Oct I bought a new SSD, and in Dec a new 2TB HDD for storage. I run Debian Sid, 64-bit. Since a week or so I have had serious issues with the HDD, it stalls and doesn't come alive for after 30 seconds-2 minutes. etc. Now I have decoupled it, as it gives the message "failed command read dma". I have tried fsck w various options. But, after a reboot the messages are there again. Wha can I do?
04:15<jm_>s4br3: are you the one who I told about hdparm?
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04:18<s4br3>jm_: yes
04:18<s4br3>I have tried various 'safe' changes but none helped in the long run
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04:19<s4br3>The kernel reported about -S as unrecognized
04:19<s4br3>during boot
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04:20<mib_24w5t1>Hello can somebody help me with auto reconnect in pppoe with Debian Lenny?
04:20<s4br3>after i had made my changes to /etc/hdparm.conf
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04:21<jm_>maybe you did not edit hdparm.conf correctly
04:22<MeglaW>http://www.allpotseeds.com/images/article/gender-identification-pot-plants.jpg
04:22<MeglaW>ooops sorry wrong channel
04:22<jm_>it looks like one needs to set it as spindown_time = X
04:23<s4br3>should that be for command_line or for /dev/sdb1
04:24<jm_>what do you mean? and you need to set it for /dev/sdb not for /dev/sdb1
04:24<s4br3>in hdparm there are brackets for each disk
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04:25<jm_>ahh, it's the same for both methods
04:26<s4br3>command_line {spindown_time = 240}
04:26<s4br3>Is that correct?
04:28<jm_>no, command line (that's for backwards compatibility) needs to look like so: command_line {<enter>hdparm -S ... /dev/sdb<enter>}
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04:29<jm_>I would rather add a block for /dev/sdb and use "spindown_time"
04:29<jm_>no wonder it says unknown command since you are missing the word hdparm
04:29<s4br3>ok, but still retain the snippet you wrote above?
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04:29<zem_>is there a way to find out what date i installed my debian?
04:30<jm_>you only need one, you don't want both command_line and a device specific section
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04:32<s4br3>command_line {<enter>hdparm -S spindown_time = 240 /dev/sda<enter>}
04:32<jthill>zem_: ls -ltc / will show you the creation timestamps on your root dir
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04:32<s4br3>Would that be correct?
04:33<s4br3>except for the sda -> sdb
04:33<jm_>s4br3: no, please take a look at the commented out examples in hdparm.conf - comment out command_line block and copy one of the examples, change device and use spindown_time in it
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04:36<s4br3>ok, need to apply the changes
04:37<s4br3>by reconnecting the HDD
04:37<s4br3>cya
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04:47<Alyosha>hi i have a problem with psyBNC can anyone help?
04:47<Alyosha>i instaled configured and everything
04:47<Alyosha>i allso get conected to bnc
04:48<Alyosha>but when i add server(tryed diferent) it wont connect
04:48<Alyosha>anyone?
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04:50<s4br3>Hi, this is from another machine. It is running fsck again, with some IO Buffer error, failed command read DMA, etc. It is chugging out a great number of messages
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04:52<s4br3>Now it stopped saying it cannot read a particular block, with message "Ignore error <y>?"
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04:57<bst>!psybnc
04:57<dpkg>psyBNC is an IRC bouncer. http://www.psybnc.at/ Not in Debian due to licensing problems, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/06/msg00300.html . See also <sbnc>.
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05:01<Alyosha>so from what i understand psybnc don't work on debian?
05:02<jm_>s4br3: did you ever run badblocks on it?
05:02<s4br3>yes
05:02<jm_>and?
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05:03<s4br3>But, i don't remember for how long, or if it ever finished. What is a reasonable time, for a 2TB disk?
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05:04<jm_>probably 4-5 hours at minimum
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05:04<s4br3>oooh..
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05:04<jthill>zem_: look in /var/log/dpkg.log*
05:04<jm_>it might be also other stuff, like NCQ - try disabling that too
05:04<s4br3>Now it asks me if I whould force a rewrite
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05:05<Alyosha>!sbnc
05:05<dpkg>shroudBNC is a multi-user IRC proxy. Packaged for Debian, see /usr/share/doc/sbnc/README.Debian regarding file locations. Lenny users: run 'dpkg-reconfigure sbnc' after installation to apply initial configuration (Debian bug #516468). http://wiki.shroudbnc.info/ http://www.shroudbnc.info/ #sbnc on irc.quakenet.org.
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05:38<s4br3>SOLVED. The new hdparm settings work, I did a manual fsck -sAMRV and after a questions it was ok! Thanks for the support!!!
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05:54<Zathras>hi. For some reason a semi fresh installed Lenny is a fan of IP v6. This is not configured. So inet access initiated from this box does not work. Ipv4 is configured correctly but still ipv6 takes precedence
05:54<Zathras>how to get rid of it the proper way?
05:56<bst>!ipv6
05:56<dpkg>Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) is the next-generation IP version designed to replace IPv4. Available in Debian since <potato>, full IPv6 support is a release goal for Squeeze. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 http://ipv6.debian.net/ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/ http://www.ipv6.org/ #debian-ipv6 on irc.oftc.net, #ipv6 on irc.freenode.net. To disable IPv6 on your system, ask me about <noipv6>.
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06:09<Zathras>!noipv6
06:09<dpkg>[noipv6] To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for this change to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader.
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06:37<vook>anyone know where I'll find uvcvideo in menuconfig ?
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06:47<Torsten_W>vook, hit / and type the searchword
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07:05<atta>hi
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07:06<atta>i like to add some tasksel option's into the debian installer
07:07<atta>but i can't find the place where i can add some thing
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07:20<sret>hi,morning anyone awake?
07:21<f8l>sret: Sort of...
07:22<sret>I needed some help setting up an ssh server at home, i have ssh and openssh-server installed
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07:23<atta>sret: wath will you do
07:23<sret>and if i do a netcat -tupl it's running, both are running. last night i had registered a free hostname@dyndns, foobar.dyndns-work.com. im not sure if there's anything else i need and how to ssh to my machine?
07:23<MagnusJens>Hello. Wget can download entire websites with the -r parameter. But it only downloads a single page/image/whatever at a time. Is there a way to do it in a faster way?
07:24<sret>atta: this is just for my home machine, so my wife can ssh ito the home machine from work.
07:25<atta>ok
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07:25<atta>sert checked the ip?
07:25<atta>nslookup?
07:26<sret>what?
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07:28<jm_>MagnusJens: you mean parallel downloads? i don't think it has that
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07:29<sret>any ideas anyone?
07:29<sret>hi babilen , morning
07:29<babilen>o/
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07:30<Aleric>Something is seriously wrong with my harddisk that I use for swap.
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07:31<Aleric>It just never reads or writes faster than about 1 MB/s ... it's causing minutes of delay, of freezing sometimes and very often freezing of seconds :(
07:31<Aleric>But when I use hdparm on it, it says it's doing 75 MB/s.. how can this be? :(
07:31<sret> and openssh-server installed
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07:31<sret>16:23 < atta> sret: wath will you do
07:31<sret>16:23 < sret> and if i do a netcat -tupl it's running, both are running. last
07:31<sret> night i had registered a free hostname@dyndns,
07:31<sret> foobar.dyndns-work.com. im not sure if there's anything else i
07:31<sret> need and how to ssh to my machine?
07:31<sret>oops
07:31<sret>sorry
07:31<jm_>Aleric: what kind of disk is it?
07:32<Aleric>jm_: A SATA disk... lemme find out more
07:32<Aleric>And encrypted swap, using dmcrypt
07:32<Aleric>It's not using any cpu though
07:33<sret>babilen: anyideas?
07:33<Aleric>I started a 'swapoff -a' 6 minutes ago or so.. it's still reading the disk. No cpu though.
07:33<jm_>Aleric: well hdparm bypasses dmcrypt layer
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07:45<MagnusJens>jm_: Yeah. I mean parallel downloads, Do you know a program for that? It should automatically find out which has already been downloaded. Like wget -r remembers what has been downloaded.
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07:46<dominick>hi! I uninstalled asterisk and deleted the /etc/asterisk folder after. Now, when I reinstall, it is missing the configuration files that come by default in /etc/asterisk. How do I get them back?
07:46<jm_>!tell dominick -about confmiss
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07:48<jm_>MagnusJens: not off top of my head, check if d4x supports it
07:48<dominick>jm_, I did a "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>", but the files are still missing.
07:48<dominick>s/<packagename>/asterisk/
07:48<jm_>dominick: the files are in the asterisk-config package ...
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07:51<classical>hey ppl i cant see my iptables in ps
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07:51<classical>but its says that: "Loading iptables ruleset: load "active".
07:51<classical>why ?
07:52<jm_>iptables is not a process that runs all the time
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07:52<Aleric>jm_: Running 'bonnie' in some folder of that harddisk I get 40 to 50 MB/s throughput. It would be major bug if the dmcrypt layer reduced that to 1 MB/s while not even using CPU...
07:53<dominick>"config file does not exist on the system. Installing new config file as you requested." thanks jm_ !
07:53<jm_>Aleric: I agree - try to run dd on that device going through dmcrypt and without it and compare I guess
07:53<dominick>!thanks
07:53<dpkg>bitte, dominick
07:53<jm_>dominick: enjoy
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07:53<MagnusJens>jm_: thanks. I'll try to take a look at it :)
07:54<classical>jm_, how can i find out if iptables is running fine ?
07:54<jm_>classical: iptables -L -v -n
07:55<classical>jm_, thanks
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08:00<Aleric>jm_: dd if=/dev/dm-0 of=/dev/null and if=/dev/sde2 are both full speed (75 MB/s)
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08:01<jm_>Aleric: interesting
08:02<Aleric>well, encrypted is 5% slower
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08:03<jm_>Aleric: but I guess you need to test writing too, but be careful with that
08:03<jm_>so you won't need to use your ext3 undeletion howto for example :)
08:04<Aleric>>grep swap /etc/crypttab
08:04<Aleric>cswap UUID=34aacaf2-d84e-4427-ab3c-038e744264f1 /dev/random cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256,size=256,swap
08:05<Aleric>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 24 20:06 /dev/disk/by-uuid/34aacaf2-d84e-4427-ab3c-038e744264f1 -> ../../sde2
08:05<Aleric>>ls /dev/mapper/cswap -l
08:05<Aleric>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jan 18 13:40 /dev/mapper/cswap -> ../dm-0
08:06<Aleric>I suppose that after overwriting it, I need to recreate the swap? Hmm
08:06<jm_>yup
08:07<Aleric>My memory is so bad :(. I forgot how to stop/start the encryption layer without rebooting.
08:07<sret>nobody answered my post, pls someone...
08:07<jm_>maybe nobody understands what your problem is
08:09<sret>jm_: ive got ssh and openssh-server running, im trying to setup a home ssh server so family can login in from whereever they are. i also registered a free hostname with dyndns.org. first off im trying to get ssh working, what's a test to do this from within the home network?
08:10<jm_>sret: you can't make exactly the same test, but start with 'ssh hostname'
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08:11<Aleric>jm_: What is the command to make this /dev/mapper/cswap disappear? It isn't luks, so it isn't /sbin/cryptsetup luksClose cswap
08:12<Aleric>/sbin/cryptsetup remove cswap I guess
08:12<sret>jm_: yeah but what should i use as my hostname? my ip? i tried that from a windows machine running putty, hostname:myip port:22
08:12<sret>nothing worked
08:12<jm_>Aleric: to be honest I have no idea
08:13<jm_>sret: probably not your external hostname but your internal one (or IP)
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08:13<sret>ahh
08:14<sret>tried internal, not working either.
08:14<jm_>try 'ssh localhost' on the machine itself
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08:15<sret>sec
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08:18<sret>it says the authenticity of the localhost 127.0.0.1 cant be established, RSA fingerprint etcetc, are you sure you want to continue connecting?
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08:18<sret>ok clicked yes, and it says permanently added localhost RSA to the list of known hostz
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08:19<fade>hello
08:19<sret>so it connected to localhost from my deb box, which is where the ssh server is, how do i get this working from windows now?
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08:21<dteed>@sret: what is "it" and "this" in your question?
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08:22<sret>it= debian machine where ssh server resides, this = ssh working from windows
08:22<dteed>So, you want an ssh client for MS Windows?
08:23<sret>no i want to test if ssh works within my home network so trying to connect to the debian machine from a windows box.
08:23<zem_>use putty, set the correct ip, ssh, and connect, not much wisdom there
08:24<sret>zem_: i know that
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08:25<sret>but i need to test if ssh is working, at the moment from putty if i put localhost as hostname and port:22 it doesnt connect, or even if i put my default router ip 192.168.0.1, it doesnt connect
08:25<zem_>you have to put the ip of box running ssh server
08:25<dteed>Use the IP of the Debian server. Sounds like you might need to configure eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
08:25<sret>tat is on my home network which has the internal ip of 192.168.0.1, same thing
08:25<zem_>in your casse, ip of debian machine
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08:26<zem_>i could be wrong, but i'd guess 192.168.0.1 is router ip
08:26<sret>right for netgear
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08:26<Aleric>jm_: writing is respectively 48 MB/s and 44 MB/s (not-encrypted and encrypted)
08:28<zem_>sret: run on debian machine: ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr"
08:28<dteed>is your router a debian system, or is it a hardware router like dlink, linksys, etc?
08:28<sret>the inet address on my debian machine is 192.168.0.8
08:28<zem_>then put that in putty
08:29<sret>aweslome it works!!!
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08:29<sret>thanks zem_
08:29<Zathras>I no longer have ipv6 as a module loaded. I have no IPv6 configured. I can connect to the server using ipv4 however when I am on the server and want to go onto the net (for instance to apt-get install a package) I get ipv6 errors
08:30<sret>ok another issue, i registered a freehostname in dyndns.org, how can i use that instead of my ip so people can connect to this machine remotely without having to remember the ip?
08:30<Zathras>no idea why this happens or what I can do about it. Nothing in /etc/network related to ipv6 afaik. Same for shorewall config
08:30<dteed>@sret : if you want to access it by the hostname tet, you'll need to configure DNS locally, or set up a hosts file on MS Windows and Debian.
08:31<Zathras>sret: let the hostname point to your IP and let people use the hostname. That is the idea behind dyndns
08:31<zem_>sret: use ddclient
08:31<petemc>dteed: you run a client which updates your ip when it changes
08:31<petemc>erm
08:31<petemc>sret: ^^^^
08:32<sret>but i thought the updating was only applicable to dynamic ips
08:33<zem_>you have static ip on your internet connection?
08:33<sret>yes
08:33<dteed>sret: your router should be configured to forward the port number to the Debian box
08:34<sret>the port number is set at default now which is 22, which should be ok then? considering i can connect, port 22 has been port fowarded no?
08:34<dteed>Personally, I use a non-default port for ssh to limit brute force attack attempts.
08:35<sret>yes ive read about that, but for now i want dyndns to work instead of my debian machine ip, later on i can modify the port number to my liking and as i understand it to change the port, you just do all that in sshd.conf i think what i read
08:36<sret>nobody else is going to login here, just my family so its a non-issue at the moment but i ust want it up and running before i can play with it and mdify it to my liking
08:36<dteed>On router, forward incoming port 22 to 192.168.0.8 port 22
08:36<zem_>if you have static ip, then you just need to forward the port to your debian box, and tell dyndns to point to your routers ip
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08:37<sret>how do i check if its been port forwarded?
08:37<jm_>Aleric: hmm then I guess it's best to ask on lkml
08:37<dteed>access ssh over the dyndns name
08:38<zem_>sret: or over your internet ip if you haven't configured dyndns yet
08:38<sret>which is foobar.dyndns-work.com?
08:39<sret>my internet ip as n the external ip that you see on sites?
08:39<zem_>yes
08:39<sret>and you want me to ssh that from the debian box or the windows one?
08:40<zem_>shouldn't matter, try both :)
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08:40<sret>no connection, putty just closed entirely
08:41<zem_>then something isn't configured right
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08:42<dteed>Try a host look up on your fully qualified host name. On Linux, use host, or on Windows cmd line use nslookup
08:42<sret>do i need to configure something in the dyndns?
08:42<zem_>yes, you need to tell dyndns your ip address
08:43<sret>ah i get
08:43<sret>Server: UnKnown
08:43<sret>Address: 192.168.0.1
08:43<dteed>The router should be able to tell the internet address. The one which isn't 192.168.*.*
08:44<dteed>Try http://www.whatsmyip.org/
08:44<sret>Non-authoritative answer: , next line name: hostname.dyndns-work.com
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08:44<sret>and my address: external ip
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08:44<ishoy>Hi
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08:45<sret>just so you know when i registered my hostname with dyndns.org it was on a windows laptop which had 192.168.0.1 i believe
08:45<ishoy>man irc is so cool!
08:45<ishoy>omg, am i going to be on bash?!
08:45<sret>thatas the default router ip so when i did a nslookup for hostname.dyndns-work.com thats what i see
08:45<dteed>Give dyndys.org an IP which you can see on http://www.whatsmyip.org/
08:46<ishoy>Are you guys real people? :S
08:46<MeglaW>im not
08:46<ishoy>YES! My very first trolling experience on IRC :D
08:46<sret>how do i give dyndns.org an ip?
08:46<ishoy>woot
08:46<dteed>Ya, half ways through a chat about setting up dyndns for incoming ssh through router
08:46<zem_>sret: login in their website
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08:47<ishoy>Is it sad that even though I've never used IRC in my life, apart from now, that I read over thousands of quotes on bash.org ?
08:47<ishoy>everyday* :(
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08:48<dteed>I don't know if we are going to be quotable today.
08:48<ishoy>dammit
08:48<ishoy>man just the thought of being quoted on bash makes me tingle in different places
08:48<sret>ok in dyndns i dont see anything i can modify in the account settings
08:49-!-mode/#debian [+l 462] by debhelper
08:49<zem_>sret: go to my hosts > hostname.dyndns-something.org > ip address
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08:50<sret>where is this my hosts> there?
08:50<sret>i logged in and im in my account settings
08:50<zem_>ummm... my services, 3rd link, you are not even trying
08:50<sret>think i found it
08:50<sret>its in my services
08:51<sret>yes its already got my external ip
08:51<dteed>or is it just advising you of your external IP?
08:51<sret>hostname.dyndns-work.com - external ip and hostname.dyndns-at-work.com host : external ip.
08:52<sret>dteed: its there in the hostname services, two hosts, and under info it has my external ip
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08:53<sret>it also says on top of hostnme services, "you currently do not have any zone level services
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08:54<zem_>nslookup hostname.dyndns-work.com should then give you your external ip
08:54<sret>zem_: yeah i already said that, it does
08:54<dteed>If it is set up, it should list a section called host services and under that, three columns: Hostname, Service, and Info. Info would be your external IP, if it is set up.
08:54<sret>dteed: yes in info it's got my external ip for both the hostnames dynds-work.com and dyndns-at-work.com
08:55<zem_>http://www.canyouseeme.org/ then you can try port 22 on that hostname to see if it's open
08:56<sret>Error: I could not see your service on 71.164.78.86 on port (22)
08:56<sret>Reason: Connection timed out
08:56<zem_>your port isn't forwarded correctly
08:57<sret>note: im trying all this from the windows box nw, didnt check this on the debian one
08:57<zem_>it doesn't matter
08:58<dteed>Some routers have security options which can interfer with self-testing. See: https://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/loopback_connections.html
08:58<zem_>either you port isn't forwarded correctly or something blocks your port (router/isp)
08:59<zem_>dteed: shouldn't be a problem for canyouseeme.org because it tries to connect from internet
09:00<dteed>If I ssh to www.canyouseeme.org, I don't see a login prompt, I see: ssh: connect to host www.canyouseeme.org port 22: Connection refused
09:01<zem_>dteed: it's a website
09:01<zem_>to test your ports
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09:01<dteed>I don't know how putty would error - maybe Connection timed out?
09:02<dteed>OH, sorry, my confusion
09:02<zem_>he posted his ip so you can try to ssh yourself
09:02<sret>if my port is blocked, how come i can connect internally from within my home from one machine to another?
09:03<zem_>first, i don't belive your port is blocked
09:03<zem_>second, because it's a different network
09:03<sret>ok cool
09:03<zem_>i just think you don't have port forwarded correctly
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09:04<sret>i didnt even muck aroud with port forwarding, all i did was setup ssh and dyndns
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09:04<zem_>sret: then you can't connect from internet
09:04<zem_>you have to forward the port first
09:04<dteed>On 71.164.78.86, all I see open are port 80 and 113.
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09:05<sret>ok my windows machine had firewall on, let me try this again
09:06<sret>still nothing
09:06<zem_>sret: it's not your windows machine, it's your router you have to configure
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09:14<sret>ok thanks guys
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09:41<rah>http://pastebin.com/eDNJJW9B
09:41<rah>/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
09:41<rah>I am confused
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09:41<rah>nm
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---Logclosed Tue Jan 18 09:41:32 2011
---Logopened Tue Jan 18 09:41:43 2011
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09:44<dteed>@rah: when building a binary from make, you need the -dev or -develop libraries - so in this case the GL dev libraries
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09:45<rah>dteed: I know
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09:45<dteed>@rah: in the paste.bin content, you are looking at the runtime libraries for libGL
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09:46<rah>dteed: I know
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09:47<dteed>@rah: so you have libgl-dev package installed?
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09:47<rah>dteed: I have libgl1-mesa-dev installed, yes
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09:58<dteed>@rah: try installing xlibmesa-gl-dev
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10:00<rah>dteed: the libGL.so link contained in libgl1-mesa-dev was missing so I added it
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10:02<dteed>@rah: and now make completes?
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10:03<rah>dteed: yes
10:04<dteed>Rah: great...
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10:04<sret>omg i can login to my router!!!!
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10:05<XFree>hello!
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10:06<XFree>I've just installed debian squeeze..can I use another window-server instead of Xorg? (One more light, for example XFree)
10:07<themill>*blink*
10:08<XFree>what ?
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10:09<Arrowmaster>XFree is still developed?
10:10<Arrowmaster>and wikipedia answers with a no
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10:10<XFree>ok perfect:P
10:11<XFree>they told me that xorg is lighter than xfree :P
10:11<dteed>@XFree: did you mean window manager? There are many of those...
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10:11<XFree>i'll install fluxbox dteed
10:11<XFree>i d'nt mean w-manager
10:12<XFree>ops..i mean window-server not window-manager:P
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10:12<XFree>but it's ok..i have to install xorg+fluxbox
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10:12<XFree>thank you guys:)
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10:16<wissem>upgrading to lenny with a 100bytes/s :(
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10:21<Cesco>Hi, i have a problem installing the cuda-sdk, any hints ?
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10:22<Cesco>apt-get install cuda-sdk -> package not found
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10:23<rah>talk to nvidia?
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10:26<point>hi
10:26<point>You are penis
10:26<point>You all are penismans
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10:26<point>with no penis
10:26<point>hahahahahah
10:27<point>hahahahahahah
10:27<point>Ganneff you fucking noob
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10:27<point>suck your cock
10:27<point_>hello
10:27<point>you all are penises
10:27<point_>how are u guys
10:27<point_>??
10:27<point>You all are jews
10:27<point>and penises
10:27<point_>tell me something interesting
10:27<sret>dteed and zem there?
10:27<sret>how do i port foward in my router
10:27<point>Dteed is gay
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10:28<point_>why are u such jews
10:28<point>you juts have to suck your cocks
10:28<sret>do i need to set for WAN users? and for the LAN server what ip should i be giving?
10:28<point_>we should have killed u all
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10:28<intezar>hi
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10:29<point_>i eat jews 4 lunch
10:29<point>jews
10:29<point>niggers
10:29<point>you are niggers
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10:29<cthuluh>!ops point
10:29<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: cthuluh complains about: point
10:29-!-mode/#debian [+q point!*@*] by mikegrb
10:29-!-mode/#debian [+q point_!*@*] by mikegrb
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10:29<cthuluh>thanks, mikegrb
10:29<mikegrb><3
10:29-!-Irssi: Gist created: https://gist.github.com/784584
10:33<sret>n attempted connection to 71.164.78.86:22 was refused. This typically indicates that there are no services available on that port, but that it is NOT being blocked by a firewall or your ISP.
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10:34<sret>this is from the openport tool i used on dyndns.org, i set up a service for ssh UDP and TCP
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10:36<sret>any ideas on what the LAN ip is spposed to be? is it the default router ip or something else?
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10:40<soko>hi there, I got brasero and xfburn to burn cds dvd, but they are unable to burn dvd data, the dvd driver get stuck every time right after select the files to burn
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10:41<naditya>hi
10:42<sret>interesting i have a dyndns service on the netgar router
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10:42<zem>sret: http://portforward.com/ this should help
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10:43<sret>yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 i got it working folks!!!!!!!
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10:44<sret>zem, dteed thanks! btw how do i reserve the LAN ip for the debian box in my router? or dyndns host will resolve tat issue? there's a dyndns stuf in my router settings
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10:45<zem>sret: don't know about router, but you can set static ip in /etc/network/interfaces file
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10:45<sret>yeah but the lan Ip would change for my home machines wouldnt it? i want to reserve the debian box's ip which is 192.168.0.1 because thats where sshd resides
10:46<zem>sret: if you set static ip in interfaces, then it will stay, and it's 192.168.0.8, NOT 192.168.0.1
10:46<sret>right the debian machine is 192.168.0.8
10:46<sret>not 0.1 i know that:P
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10:48<sret>ok im in the etc/network/interfaces file how do i add that ip though?
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10:49<zem>sret: you should realy learn to use google: http://www.google.com/search?q=debian+static+ip
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10:52<catsup>haha
10:52<catsup>i remember the days when users were told to read the documentation for a configuration file, rather than search google
10:52<devil>you way old.
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10:54<themill>!man interfaces
10:54<dpkg>man interfaces is probably at http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=interfaces where you can view many Debian man pages. Ask me about <docs> <dmp> <grounding> <search>.
10:54<crc>just for the old times, type: man interfaces
10:54<themill>^^ you have it both ways if you want...
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10:55<soko>bye
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11:04<sret>wow weird, after i added an ssh port to connect it stopped letting meconnect via my shell im using now since it uses 2222 and not 22 by default
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11:05<sret>but before i added port forwardning for 22 on my router, the shell connected just fine to port 2222
11:05<opre>is an AMD Athlon 1200 a 64-bit processor?
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11:12<MeglaW>opre: no
11:12<opre>thanks. ist that because it is an "x86 compatible processor"
11:13<opre>x86 is always 32bit, if i'm not mistaken
11:14<mjr>amd64/x86-64 processors are x86 compatible also.
11:14<mjr>but yes, the x86 ISA is 32-bit per def
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11:16<fossiiil>Athlons are 32bit only, if i remember well...Wikipedia
11:16<sret>zem: btw my ip is dynamic
11:16<jhutchins_lt>opre: the term "x86-64" is used to designate the non-compatible Intel Itanium line.
11:16<jhutchins_lt>opre: Intel licensed the amd64 code from amd and uses it in their compatible chips.
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11:18<jhutchins_lt>sret: So you need to know how to connect to an alternate port?
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11:18<opre>ok. seems kind of hard sometimes to actually find out what is 32 and what is 64 bit. i've had a look into wikipedia. but that didn't really make thing clear for me.
11:19<sret>jhutchins_lt: no but before i port forwarded 22 in my router, i could ssh to any shell without any issues that used port numbers like 2222, after i setup ssh and port forwarded it, i couldnt connect no long to the shell, i had to add 2222 in the services too
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11:20<jhutchins_lt>sret: So you forwarded it by the service name "ssh"?
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11:20<themill>opre: do you have this hardware to hand? if so, grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo
11:21<sret>yes that was for ssh, and i had to forward 2222 for my shell im using now
11:21<opre>themill: did that. ok, how can i tell now?
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11:22<opre>probably it is this one: clflush size : 32 right?
11:23<themill>opre: if it returns a line looking like: "lags : fpu vme ... ... lm ... " then it's an amd64 cpu
11:23<themill>err. "flags" not lags
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11:23<opre>the lm is not it it
11:24<opre>but the rest
11:24<themill>lm is the important one
11:24<opre>ok
11:25<opre>so far so good: i'm trying to get a wireless USB adapter to work. it is a Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-608 Wireless USB Adapter 54g
11:26<opre>the debian wiki actually tells me how to get this to work on lenny. but there is one problem:
11:26<opre>the procedure involves installing a 2.6.32 kernel from backports and when i boot this, the system hangs complete as the Xserver starts up
11:27<opre>so i thought, well, build the kernel module manually. good idea? i'd need some help then.
11:27<opre>here's the wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta#Lenny
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11:29<zem>sret: seems like you fixed your problems
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11:29<sret>zem: damn straight:P thanks, wow that was fast
11:30<sret>btw i'll beback later, ned to make sure ssh is secure , and changing port numbers and how not to let users run root stuff through ssh, brb
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11:30<sret>i need to clairfy all that when i get back :P thanks
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11:50<jakub`>Hello, i have just debootstraped clean debian sid and installed only emacs, sudo in it.. now i wanted to install gnome-shell from experimental but i get dependency errors
11:50<jakub`>any idea how to resolve this?
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11:51<jhutchins_lt>sret: Forwarding services by name is the same as forwarding the default port - that's how the service is identified. On a typical linux system, the text string of the service name is looked up in /etc/services. You can change or add services by changing that file.
11:51<jhutchins_lt>sret: Other OSs use a similar method.
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11:52<jhutchins_lt>sret: http on port 80 is only http because a daemon/server listening on port 80 returns an http response.
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11:52<sney>jakub`: using sid and experimental will usually give dependency errors. if you're going to use them, you have to be able to find your own way out; by the nature of how quickyl everything in those 2 repos changes, #debian cannot support you. You may find something useful in the bug tracker though.
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11:53<mkad>Hi
11:53<rah>how can I find the old-type X font specification for the actual font(s) used for 'Sans'?
11:53<mkad>what do I need to install to be able to use reportbug tool, since my reports are writen down to a text log file
11:53<mkad>any help?
11:54<mkad>Do I really need to install entire sendmail ?
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11:55<jakub`>sney: and using only the experimental would help?
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11:55<petemc>mkad: http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug may be of some use
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11:56<mkad>petemc, I was looking exactly for this
11:56<silver4e>hello .. I need a help
11:56<mkad>petemc, Thanks
11:56<petemc>np
11:56<silver4e>with some perl script
11:56<silver4e>:(
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11:56<petemc>silver4e: if you're using debian just ask your question
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11:57<silver4e>Ubuntu
11:57<silver4e>this is my OS
11:57<cthuluh>!ubuntu
11:57<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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11:57<babilen>silver4e: Or try #perl on irc.freenode.net
11:58<silver4e>Ok
11:58<silver4e>thank you
11:58<silver4e> :)
11:58<babilen>np, good luck
11:58<silver4e>you to
11:58<silver4e>:)
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12:10<fa_effekt>what command should one use when looking for files in the terminal - trying to find config.inc.php
12:11<crc>find or locate
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12:11<fa_effekt>crc, example?
12:11<crc>locate config.inc.php
12:11<fa_effekt>k
12:11<crc>find / -name config.inc.php
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12:12<crc>find in that way might take a long time, if you now under which parent directory it is try this instead:
12:13<crc>find PATH -name config.inc.php
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12:13<crc>where PATH is the parent directory
12:13<fa_effekt>k
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12:30<sret>back
12:30<sret>jhutchins_lt: i know that part
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12:32<retrospectacus>morning sret, how's debian treating you today?
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12:44<openrebel>having a severe graphics problem on squeeze. starting gdm/the xserver = total hang up of the system
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12:44<openrebel>trying to create an xorg.conf, since it seems to be a driver issue
12:44<openrebel>it wokred fine on lenny
12:45<openrebel>i am using an ati rage card
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12:47<devil>openrebel: is linux-firmware-nonfree installed?
12:47<devil>if you use the radeon driver
12:47<openrebel>no it is not
12:47<openrebel>i am using the driver "ati" that is built in
12:48<dvs>devil: firmware-linux-nonfree,
12:48<devil>ups, right
12:48*dvs was corrected about that yesterday
12:48<devil>it felt wrong while typing it :)
12:49<openrebel>i am unsure about the erros in xorgs log
12:49<devil>openrebel: the ati package is just a dummy, the driver is radeon and it wants the above package
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12:49<openrebel>ok, i'll try that
12:50<openrebel>is it enough to create a custom xorg.conf with just a device section and identifier and driver in it?
12:50<devil>openrebel: if it does not work, we can look at the Xorg.0.log
12:50<openrebel>ok
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12:51<devil>openrebel: with radeon you need no xorg.conf at all
12:51<openrebel>ok
12:51<devil>only with proprietary drivers you need a xorg.conf snippet
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12:52<openrebel>i usually use the nvidia driver installer which creates a complete xorg.conf itself
12:52<openrebel>this is my first ati case
12:53<devil>openrebel: that would not be a good idea anymore
12:53<openrebel>did it on squeeze on my laptop and it works fine
12:53<openrebel>hey, everythings working here now too!
12:53<devil>sure, it might, it might not
12:53<openrebel>great stuff
12:54<themill>it's unnecessary, not wrong
12:54<openrebel>i think, the nvidia installer is pretty handy, if you somehow know what you are doing. i've always preferred it over the other ways of installing the driver.
12:54<openrebel>why is it unecessary now?
12:55<devil>openrebel: because stuff is handled by udev/hal nowadays
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12:56<devil>where hal itself is on the retreat…
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12:58<openrebel>but not, if you are using proprietary drivers, i guess
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12:58<devil>openrebel: right, you need a small stanza in /xorg.conf.d
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12:59<themill>you just need to tell X which of the two possible drivers to use
12:59<danilo>lista
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12:59<openrebel>so, you are saying that the proprietary drivers have been merged into debian's non-free section completely?
12:59<devil>nope
13:00<devil>but you can build them with m-a
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13:00<openrebel>not quite getting it. but maybe i should just read up and leave room for people who have imoprtant problems now... thanks a lot, you made my day
13:00<openrebel>bye
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13:12<sret>morning retrospectacus
13:12<sret>retrospectacus: pretty darn good, just setup an ssh server and my wife's checking shit out from work
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13:12<sret>wb babilen
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13:14<sret>only drawback in linux i can see is you cant stream netflix
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13:20<retrospectacus>sret, oh yeah, why not? Never tried it myself
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13:24<sret>retrospectacus: it doesnt stream in linux because of netflix's DRM content, moonlight used to or something, but not anymore
13:25<sret>and there seems to be no workaround for it at the moment, linux users willjust have to wait till netflix makes the DRM opensource, they're willing, MS isn't at the moment because if piracy issues or whatever
13:25<jordanm>sret: you should be able to with boxee, it is proprietary though
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13:25<hagenz>please advise me simple ftp client with gui
13:26<jordanm>hagenz: filezilla
13:26<sret>what's boxee? if it's inside 50 bucks i'm all out for it. i have roku here but that doesnt work for remotely streaming netflix
13:26<retrospectacus>hagenz: fireftp plugin on iceweasel
13:26<sret>proftpd
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13:26<god>=)
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13:26<jordanm>sret: AFAIK, the application itself is free. there set-top box is where the cash comes from
13:27<sret>let me google
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13:27<Guest708>I got a new load, and a new problem. I guess upon getting the packages fixed i messed mith my drivers.
13:27<Guest708>I /thought/ they were built into the kernel.. But somehow
13:27<sret>jordanm: this is like roku
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13:28<jordanm>sret: yep, roku has been around longer
13:28<sret>yeah i have a roku box here, but that doesn't help to stream remotely, like over ssh i mean
13:28<weed>I an talking about audio, no gstreamer plugins/drivers.
13:28<sret>i dont even know if it's a good idea to do that but if we could my wife would like the idea of watching netflix at work during lunch breaks and stuff:P
13:29<weed>lspci | less Isn't showing any audio devices
13:29<cahoot>weed: cat /proc/asound/cards - empty?
13:29<weed>Yeah
13:30<weed>Give me a second here, i don't have read access
13:30<weed>=)
13:30<cahoot>weed: lspci -nn|grep -i audio - also nil?
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13:30<jordanm>weed: add your user to the audio group and relog
13:30<jordanm>!tell weed about alsa checklist
13:30<weed>Yes
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13:31<sret>that's another thing missing in my linux box, sound,got no sound card in it, need to get one of those and a wifi card
13:31<weed>http://pastie.org/1474422
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13:32<cahoot>weed: so there's no real problem
13:32<cahoot>weed: run speaker-test -t wav -c2 in a terminal
13:32<weed>If there was no problem, would i be here :)
13:32<cahoot>I said *real*
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13:33<weed>Well now, i am not sure of reality.
13:33<cahoot>weed: run speaker-test -t wav -c2 in a terminal
13:33<weed>I will
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13:34<weed>Last time it worked, i had to have my sound system plugged in (no problem) the speakers nevber played.
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13:34<weed>Now after fixing apt with good stable, i have no audio
13:34<cahoot>weed: run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0
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13:34<weed>I would not be suprised if after removing the newer kernel it messed with it
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13:35<cahoot>weed: are you listening?
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13:35<weed>Yes
13:35<weed>i am slow
13:36<weed>It takes me hours to do one thing
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13:37<weed>I didn't want to unplug my music
13:37<weed>ok
13:38<weed>adduser god audio
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13:39<l_>jk
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13:39<weed>OK, so why do i have two users called god...
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13:39<weed>one with a _
13:39<l_>yes
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13:40<lapfrog>go_d?
13:40<lapfrog>:D
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13:42<l_>bye
13:42<god_>So to get it to work i did, adduser god a0root
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13:43<god_>I guess the special permission system i have messed it up, i found out when sudo was disabled.
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13:43<god_>The guys command helped me, thanks/
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13:44<cahoot>I hope you make better sense to yourself
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13:45<god_>I programmed a different sudo/user manager. It uses more advanced features, along with having /home and /homef one that uses 'god_' and one 'god'. This is to prevent screw ups, and i guess the users got mixed up
13:45<god_>It still uses source from sudo.
13:46<god_>=)
13:46<god_>Thanks.
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13:48<jaymezavirus>hello, I'm using virtualbox-ose and it doesn't allow me to use a resolution higher than 800x600 on any of my guests, anyone know how to change that?
13:48<ichdasich>jaymezavirus: install the vbox-utils
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13:49<ichdasich>jaymezavirus: virtualbox-ose-guest-utils
13:49<ichdasich>jaymezavirus: virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
13:49<god_>FUCK!
13:50<god_>Excuse my langauge, sorry.
13:50<themill>god_: perhaps your rambling could be somewhere other than #debian. #moocows perhaps?
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13:50<god_>No, i apologize. I am having problems with wlan0/wireless. I cannot get it to work.
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13:51<ChrisDumont>I need to extract the installed version number of a .deb package in a script. How can I do that?
13:52<ChrisDumont>I know I can do dpkg -l parted | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $3}'
13:52<ChrisDumont>But , perhaps there is something better?
13:52<kveroneau>is there any news on when Squeeze will be classified as the new "Stable"?
13:52<god_>What would the command be, iwconfig wlan0 essid Has
13:52<god_>i cannot get gnome-network-manager to manage it..
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13:53<god_>Also, I can change it to WEP in seconds. No problems.
13:53<cahoot>possibly related to your 'innovative' permissionssettings?
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13:55<god_>Actually, no. That has nothing to do at all, the 'system' logs everything :) so if 'my lame system' fails it logs it, including failed auth attempts.
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13:55<god_>So it has to do with something debian-based
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13:57<god_>I assure, i will listen. i am calm now, i am a little different and tend to ramble like an idiot.
13:57<themill>ChrisDumont: dpkg-query can do that for you -- it takes a format string
13:57<jaymezavirus>god_, you're using gnome?
13:57<god_>Yes.
13:57<god_>For now
13:58<jaymezavirus>god_, and you can see your wireless connection and cannot connect to it, or you can't see it at all?
13:58<ChrisDumont>themill: Excellent, Thanks.
13:58<god_>No, it does not have the panel icon
13:58-!-adi [~adi@2001:470:b471:0:14af:6977:a849:7764] has joined #debian
13:58<god_>OK i have the icon, network manager.
13:58<jaymezavirus>god_, try the command "nm-applet"
13:59<god_>It looks alot different than usual, which is odd. It has eth0 and lo. no wlan0
13:59<jaymezavirus>god_, oh, ok, in that case clic on it and check if your wireless connection is available on the list
14:00<jaymezavirus>god_, open a terminal and try as root:"ifconfig wlan0 up"
14:01<god_>sudo_1.6.9p17.orig.tar.gz
14:01<god_>Sorry, 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132
14:01<god_>'
14:01<jaymezavirus>god_, is this a fresh debian install??
14:02<god_>Yes
14:02<god_>It has new packages
14:02<god_>nothing installed except gnome-core,xchat,iceweasel
14:02<themill>god_: did you do a reinstall since yesterday in the end?
14:02<god_>No
14:03<themill>so it's a broken mishmash of lenny and squeeze still?
14:03<god_>But i did remove everything except bash
14:03<retrospectacus>:\
14:03-!-ferdinandpc [~ferdinand@95.133.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
14:03<god_>EVERYTHING, and than i used a live-cd to fix the install
14:03<god_>It is 100% lenny
14:03<themill>god_: and that qualifies as a fresh installation in which parallel universe?
14:03<god_>I never said it was
14:04<themill>[19:01] <jaymezavirus> god_, is this a fresh debian install?? [19:02] <god_> Yes
14:04<jaymezavirus>god_, can you post in a pastebin the output of lspci?
14:04<god_><themill> god_: did you do a reinstall since yesterday in the end?
14:04<god_>Yes
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14:05<god_>http://pastie.org/1474543
14:05<god_>FULL log for you :)
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14:06<retrospectacus>that's not a log at all...
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14:06<retrospectacus>let's see dpkg -l and we'll know how "fresh" this install is
14:06<god_>shut the hell up
14:06<retrospectacus>k, you go ahead
14:06<cahoot>retrospectacus: you still expect some sort of rational answer?
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14:07<themill>god_: let's take a break from #debian for a while -- you can read the man pages for iwconfig and ifconfig in the mean time
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14:11<themill>god_: no, I'm not going to help you in a /msg while you're +q in the channel.
14:12<canci>god_: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
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14:14<jthomas_sb_>Can anyone help me with dhclient errors? http://pastebin.com/Hffe8NyS
14:14<sret>i dont know but maybe you need glibc or some libs are missing?
14:15<sret>says GLIBC_2.0 not defined
14:15<jthomas_sb_>yeah i don't know how to answer that
14:15<jthomas_sb_>this was upgraded from a pre-5.0 server, to 5.0, and then to 6.0
14:16<jthomas_sb_>my own machine doesn't have glibc as a package either
14:16<ompaul>sret: did you do the apt-get install the source stuff like you were told and build it with the options you want for your version?
14:16<sret>ompaul: yeah all done
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14:18<sret>works perfectly fine now, thanks for asking
14:18<ompaul>sret: so does this give you a clue? http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/glibc
14:19<sret>bunch of c libs?
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14:20<ompaul>sret: sorry I misread what was going on there
14:20<sret>ok
14:21<sret>but i did the source stuff for my epic4 yday:P
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14:25<ompaul>jthomas_sb_: check this out http://www.osnews.com/story/21441/Debian_Switching_to_EGLIBC
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14:27<jthomas_sb_>ompaul cool, but i don't see an eglibc package either, only eglibc-source
14:27<ompaul>jthomas_sb_: what version of debian are you on?
14:27<jthomas_sb_>ompaul i'm trying to resolve this, if you need info: http://pastebin.com/Hffe8NyS
14:27<jthomas_sb_>6.0 fully updated, but it was from a pre-5.0, upgraded to 5.0, upgraded to 6.0.
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14:29<omes>hello
14:29<jthomas_sb_>hello
14:29<omes>is there a way to mount a disk and have debian installer look for firmware in a given directory?
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14:31<canci>omes: During install?
14:31<canci>omes: Have you tried going into one of the consoles and mounting a CD? Press: ALT+F2 for example
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14:32<retrospectacus>!installer firmware
14:32<dpkg>Debian-Installer since Lenny is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch06s04 and http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>.
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14:32<sret>is there someway to ask ssh to notify me of any ssh connections to the machine?
14:32<canci>Or this way! :D
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14:33<retrospectacus>sret: yes it logs to /var/log/auth.log I believe
14:33<reklipz>sret: .bash_login -- ps aux | grep ssh
14:33<reklipz>may need an echo in there somewhere
14:33<reklipz>or .profile (.bash_profile, if you prefer)
14:33<sret>retrospectacus: yeah but i have to either ps aux | grep ssh
14:33<retrospectacus>there is the w and who commands
14:33<sret>or check logs all the time, i wanted like a notification, like a popup or something or in my terminal saying someone's connected
14:34<omes>canci: yes, but it just says there is no removable media
14:34<omes>i need it to look in a specific folder on a disk that i mount
14:34<retrospectacus>!w
14:34<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, w is a command on Unix systems that displays information on users who are currently logged in. see also <who> <uptime>
14:34<reklipz>I've never heard of a popup in a terminal
14:34<reklipz>you could modify PS1 and PROMPT_COMMAND to do it automatically
14:35<canci>omes: it says that after you tried to mount it?
14:35<reklipz>and use vt100 escape sequences to provide a "popup" of sorts
14:35<sret>reklipz: ok, retrospectacus: yeah let me check the w
14:35<retrospectacus>just tells you who's logged in, doing what
14:35<sret>right
14:35<retrospectacus>your "alert me" will be more complex
14:36<sret>yeah thats what i want, an alert
14:36<omes>canci: I'm installing debian 3500 miles away over kvm...
14:37<jthomas_sb_>ompaul no thoughts? thanks for the attention anyways
14:37<reklipz>sret: I don't know of any terminal that provides those features; let me know if you find a solution.
14:37<omes>there is no removable media
14:37<sret>reklipz: alright
14:37<canci>omes: dunno about kvm, but VirtualBox for example can mount .isos at any time.
14:37<sret>reklipz: there's an email alert
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14:38<canci>omes: regardless of whether you are running the vm or not
14:38<sret>reklipz: ok i found it for anyone logging in as root it sends an email alert, but it's a mouthful
14:39<sret>echo 'ALERT - Root Shell Access (YourserverName) on:' `date` `who` | mail -s "Alert: Root Access from `who | cut -d"(" -f2 | cut -d")" -f1`" you@yourdomain.com
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14:39<retrospectacus>nice
14:39<sret>you need to add that to /.bashrc
14:39<sret>http://www.webhostgear.com/43.html the article is from 2003 though
14:39<canci>omes: Does that help you any? http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Change_cdrom
14:39<herrera>ola kien está aquí en el chat
14:40<omes>canci: I guess my next question then is why is the debian install so fantasticly bad
14:40<retrospectacus>it will work
14:40<reklipz>sret: you mean that you're "bastardizing" the email alert system?
14:40<reklipz>sret: not that that's a problem, just wanted to make sure
14:40<omes>canci: this is not qemu or virtualbox...
14:40<herrera>ola julian k tal
14:40<smv>!es
14:40<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
14:40<sret>reklipz: dont look at me, but if thats a way to get alerted, i wouldnt mind it:P
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14:41<reklipz>I'm not sure what provides that alert; if it's the shell or what
14:41<canci>omes: Odd, I thought that's what KVM was. Sorry, I think I'm at the end of my wits. As for the installer sucking, give us a hand then! :) Make it better!
14:41<sret>one thing though, who mails this? the shell mails it to your gmail acoount or something?
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14:42<reklipz>sret: that only alerts upon login, though, right?
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14:42<retrospectacus>sret, it will use your <mta>
14:43<reklipz>sret: if that's the case, it's probably done via .profile, .bash_profile, .bashrc, or .bash_login
14:43<sret>reklipz: i think it sends a mail to your account, i have evolution running here, so if someone did login as root or whatever in ssh its going to poup instantly. reklipz yeah
14:43<retrospectacus>sret no it does not use evolution
14:43<reklipz>Oh... I see what you want now.
14:43<sret>reklipz: check the link it's done via .bashrc
14:43<sret>retrospectacus: ohhh
14:43<reklipz>You want to be alerted, in your window/desktop manager, of logins on some machine
14:43<retrospectacus>it uses sendmail or exim
14:44<sret>reklipz: yeah
14:44<sret>retrospectacus: i installed exim and configured it, but i dont know from there where to go lol, exim is a trasnfer agent and i need a user agent or something, forgot
14:44<reklipz>The way you described it, I thought you wanted to be alerted in a terminal, of successful ssh auths on the machine
14:44<pit>hi, is there anyone who could tell me what i have to do in order to get a new locale?
14:44<sret>reklipz: na na just in my window
14:44<retrospectacus>sret: simple test, echo blah | mail -s "test message" sret@gmail.com
14:44<dvs>pit: dpkg-reconfigure locales
14:44<bartm>pit, dpkg-reconfigure locales
14:45<sret>sec
14:45<dvs>bartm: liar! ;-)
14:45<pit>bartm dvs thanks
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14:47<omes>canci: i think i just might do that later on...
14:47<omes>improving on the installer that is...
14:47<sret>retrospectacus: what output am i supposed to get?
14:47<retrospectacus>sret, you get an email in your sret@gmail or whatever w/ subject "test message" and body "blah"
14:48<sret>omg it worked
14:48<retrospectacus>or an error in /var/log/mail.err
14:48<sret>heheheh
14:48<sret>yeah msg blah
14:48<sret>so my exim is working?
14:48<retrospectacus>sret, try not to use this newfound ability to make money sending spam -,-
14:48<canci>omes: history will appreciate it! http://lists.debian.org/devel.html
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14:49<sret>retrospectacus: heh im just trying to learn linux:P
14:50<god_>lol
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14:51<sret>doubt though for that email alert for ssh root logins, what's Root Shell Access YOURSERVERNAME?
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14:51<sret>is that my hostname.dyndns-work.com ?
14:51<retrospectacus>sret, whatever you want, it'll just be part of the email
14:52<retrospectacus>something identifying the server, is the idea, if you're doing this on many boxs
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14:53<sret>no no your example was just to check if exim worked right/ so it does. but i want that ssh root login email alert working here, in the document it says replace Yourservername" with the name of your server
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14:54<retrospectacus>what I said ...
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14:54<sret>so what exactly identifies root here? i dont see no su or anything
14:54<god_>That no threw me off.
14:54<retrospectacus>it's in root's .bashrc or w/e
14:55<sret>oh right
14:55<sret>okk thanks
14:55<sret>so why wont it work with evolution? my evolution is configured with gmail.
14:55<retrospectacus>sret: the command "mail" is not related to evolution
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14:56<retrospectacus>evolution's just an app. I don't think you can really talk to it from .bashrc
14:57<sret>right i get that but i have evolution configured to use my gmail account, so if the command line email sends it to the gmail account, that indrectly is sending it to my gmail account which is in evolution too
14:57<retrospectacus>it may not even be running, not even gdm
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14:57<retrospectacus>yep
14:57<retrospectacus>coincidence
14:57<sret>in which case evolution will get the mail
14:58<sret>right?
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14:58<retrospectacus>sure, if you tell evoltuion to check the gmail
14:58<sret>right its configured to check my gmail account
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14:58<god_>Evolution is not configured correct?
14:58<god_>Evolution is not configured correct?
14:58<retrospectacus>what if you're in Belize on holiday
14:59<retrospectacus>this way you can still get those alerts w/o any evolution
14:59<god_>Sorry, gmail uses ssl i think, smtp.gmail.com and pop.gmail.com
14:59<reklipz>Hey folks. After a recent dist-upgrade on squeeze, my touchpad is no longer working on my laptop.
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15:00<sret>retrospectacus: right i still would, which is nice:P
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15:00<retrospectacus>ideal.
15:00<sret>god_: what/
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15:00<god_>Is evolution configured correctly?
15:00<sret>now this doc talks about a root account what if i want an alert based on any user who ssh logins?
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15:00<sret>god_: its woring and im receiving mail, evolution debian wiki link for more info
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15:01<retrospectacus>sret, put it in /etc/.profile instead, replace root with $(whoami)
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15:02<sret>where do i replace root here?
15:02<retrospectacus>umm wherever it is telling you what account got logged in
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15:03<retrospectacus>sorry it is /etc/profile
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15:05<sret>you mean replace root in there as in PS1='#' ?
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15:05<sret>there's a PS1='$' there too
15:05<retrospectacus>ignore all that stuff
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15:06<retrospectacus>just put your echo "whatever"| mail -s ... at the end of that file
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15:07<sret>echo 'ALERT - SSH Access YOURSERVERNAME on:' `date` `who` | mail -s "Alert: SSH Access from `who | cut -d"(" -f2 | cut -d")" -f1`" myemail@mydomain.com ?
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15:10<bartm>sret, see "man whoami"
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15:11<retrospectacus>sret: if you don't know what all of that does, you should read up on it
15:12<ompaul> self dos by email lubly
15:12<sret>ok so intead of 'who' whoami?
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15:13<sret>ompaul: there's only 2 people who have ssh access and they use very little of it
15:13<ompaul>sret: and how many break in attempts are there going to be
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15:14<retrospectacus>sret: try running both and see
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15:17<sret>yessss it works!
15:17<sret>thanks
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15:18<retrospectacus>enjoy :) please do try to understand how all that works, with the ` and $( and |
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15:19<sret>working on it:P
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15:19<JesperCheetah>Instead of the whole "`who | cut -d"(" -f2 | cut -d")" -f1`" part, it might be worth trying $SSH_CONNECTION. It's just more a tad more simple
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15:20<sret>let me try that
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15:23<sret>niceee works
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15:25<sret>i had another doubt, i read yday that apt-get was better than aptitude because aptitude increases the size of /tmp
15:26<sret>is this true now or its fixed and it's better to use aptitude?
15:26<sney`>aptitude does use more resources
15:26<reklipz>... If I start my laptop without the battery, my touchpad works fine.
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15:26<sney`>but it also has way better dependency resolution
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15:26<sret>meaning?
15:27<sney`>you can use whichever one you feel like using. they both have pros and cons
15:27<sret>ok
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15:28<ChrisDumont>If you use mixed releases aptitude will get you out of trouble more often (but sometimes into trouble, too :^) )
15:28<sret>ok denyhosts installed
15:28<sret>not sure i needed it considering i changed my ssh port to something random
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15:29<babilen>fail2ban?
15:30<babilen>!securing
15:30<dpkg>The Securing Debian Manual describes the security of the Debian GNU/Linux operating system and within the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ Packaged for Debian as harden-doc. See also <manuals>.
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15:30<babilen>sret: You might want to look into ^^^ and fail2ban, given your interest in security
15:30<sret>ok
15:31<sret> /msg dpkg fail2ban
15:31<sret>might not need that now, since all i have is ssh
15:31<mc68040>hi, is there a way to convert a running eth0 into a bridge without disrupting existing connections using eth0?
15:32<sret>this fail2ban covers more than that from the looks of it, i dont want myself locked out at some point :P
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15:32<babilen>sret: You could also be interesting in "port knocking" :) (apt-cache search port knock)
15:32<dupondje>Hi, somebody knows if its possible to bind a range of IPv6 addresses to eth0 ? And not IP by IP.
15:32<ompaul>sret: you can force the use of ssh keys to gain access
15:33<babilen>Yeah, keys with passphrases though
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15:34<ompaul>babilen: of course
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15:34<ompaul>sret: and deny root logon unless at console
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15:36<sret>i dont see a port knocking pkg
15:36<reklipz>I think there's a problem with ACPI...
15:36<sret>oh found it
15:36<sret>which one knockd?
15:37<babilen>sret: knockd, knocker fwknop-server are three
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15:38<jthomas>Can anyone help me with dhclient errors? http://pastebin.com/Hffe8NyS this server was upgraded from a pre-5.0 server, to 5.0, and then to 6.0...
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15:38<babilen>sret: I just mention it because you might want to play with it.
15:38<sret>yeah exactly play with it
15:38<sret>heh
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15:40<jthill>!procps
15:40<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, procps is at ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/ (A package of utilities which report on the state of the system) or broken in potato, but the version in incoming fixes it.
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15:40<jthill>how to fix that?
15:40<jthill>it seems to be at sf now
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15:40<jthomas>wow a potato-related warning? a bit old eh?
15:41<jthill>procps is at procps.sourceforge.net
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15:41<jthill>try telling that to dpkg though
15:41<jthill>!procps is at procps.sourceforge.net
15:41<dpkg>...but procps is already something else...
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15:41<weed3>Anyone know how i can update my kernel? Aptitude full-upgrade fails
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15:42<jthomas>jthill are you suggesting I use procps to figure out my dhclient issue? i have it installed but I don't know how to use it's tools
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15:42<jthomas>weed3 aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-686 ?
15:42<jthill>no, unrelated. wanted to find procps.
15:42<jthomas>ok
15:42<weed3>Ok
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15:43<jthomas>weed3 sorry, use this: aptitude install linux-image-2.6. [tab][tab]
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15:43<jthomas>use the [tab] key to see what options you have
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15:43<jthomas>weed3 linux-image-2.6-686 will keep your system at the newest kernel
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15:44<weed3>Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "Linux-2.6.26-2-amd64"
15:44<jthomas>'aptitude update' first
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15:44<jthomas>2.6.26 is pretty old...
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15:44<retrospectacus>weed3, aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64
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15:45<weed3>2.6.32-trunk-amd64
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15:45<weed3>http://pastie.org/1474998
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15:46<jthomas>which repos are you running with, weed3 ? 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'
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15:46<retrospectacus>!paste
15:46<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>.
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15:47<weed3>http://pastie.org/1475004
15:47<weed3>Normal repo, with volotile, security, main all set to lenny
15:48<retrospectacus>,kernels
15:48<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-trunk-686 (2.6.37-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-29~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2)
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15:48<weed3>Yes, do you remember the output of the aptitude install i pastied
15:48<retrospectacus>so if you want newer than 2.6.26 you need to use backports or upgrade to squeeze
15:48<weed3>http://pastie.org/1474998
15:48<retrospectacus>yes it means you are up to date
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15:49<weed3>With trunk
15:49<jthomas>yes, lenny. great for servers but a bit old for the desktop at this point.
15:49<jthomas>imho
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15:50<weed3>Would this be enough to upgrade, ' :%s/lenny/squeeze/g '
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15:50<retrospectacus>!lenny->squeeze
15:50<babilen>dpkg: lenny->squeeze
15:51<babilen>dpkg: lenny->squeeze
15:51<dpkg>Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list and change lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Make sure you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". See also <testing> <testing security> <squeeze release notes>.
15:51<babilen>weed3: Read the release notes, they contain important and detailed information: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes
15:52<weed3>I could care less, if it breaks oh well.
15:52<sret>might as well wait for another month before ytou can upgrade, squeeze is still in testing. some stuff is broken
15:52<weed3>As i said, i understand.
15:52<jthomas>like my dhclient ??
15:52<weed3>My other system runs testing
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15:53<sret>is mirror.cc.columbia working?
15:53<jthomas>all of my desktops run testing or sid and i rarely have issues, as long as i keep them updated
15:53<weed3>All i do is watch _explicit_, and program stuff. I do not care if my hd gets killed, and i don't care if i eve rlose anything.
15:54<weed3>I sometimes rm -rf / for fun, clean me out.
15:55<weed3>:p
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15:57<sret>i didnt get that part, rm -rf for fun is supposed to cool?
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15:58<dibe>ciao tutti
15:58<retrospectacus>I guess
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15:59<Mancio666>ciao
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16:00<Mancio666>hackers?
16:00<dibe>canale italiano??
16:00<Mancio666>sei italiano?
16:00<dibe>io si
16:00<Mancio666>pure io
16:00<Mancio666>quanti anni hai?
16:00<weed3>....
16:00<dibe>26
16:00<devil>!it
16:00<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
16:00<Mancio666>bè forse non ci crederai ma io 16
16:01<dibe>xchè che ce di strano??
16:01<retrospectacus>vai su #debian-it per italiano
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16:01<Mancio666>forse è meglio andare su debian ita
16:01<Mancio666>ci si sente la
16:01<Mancio666>;)
16:02<dibe>okj
16:02<weed3>LOL
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16:07-!-mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ
16:07-!-themill changed the topic of #debian to: lenny (5.0.7) /msg dpkg 5.0.7 | squeeze release planned for 5th/6th Feb 2011 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | FAQ: http://bit.ly/DebFAQ
16:07-!-mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill
16:07<themill>(topicdiff: we have a planned release date for squeeze!)
16:08<retrospectacus>wooooooooooooooooo
16:08<weed3>Cool
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16:10<sret>btw through ssh how do i run gnome and such?
16:10<sret>X11 forwarding is enabled as yes in the sshd.conf or ssh.conf forgot which one but it was set as yes
16:10<retrospectacus>you usually just run an application, not all of gnome
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16:11<sret>so like say i wanted to run iceweasel over ssh, how would i do that?
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16:11<sret>the windows machine would need something to accept and run X11 stuff?
16:11<retrospectacus>ssh -X remotehost and then iceweasel on the remotehost
16:11<retrospectacus>ah windows... you need the mingw thing I think
16:12<retrospectacus>!mingw
16:12<dpkg>mingw is, like, better than cygwin.
16:12<retrospectacus>!mingw32
16:12<sret>oh cygwin, isnt that like really slow?
16:12<retrospectacus>eh... good luck
16:12*retrospectacus goes for food
16:12<sret>thanks retrospectacus
16:12<devil>YAY! http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/01/msg00003.html
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16:13<Robjor>Ohoy!
16:13<weed3>Actually putty can do that, can't it?
16:13<sret>i think so, im looking at ming
16:13<weed3>Putty is a single executable, just run and go.
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16:14<sret>yeah putty has X11 forwardning
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16:14<weed3>xwin32
16:14<Robjor>I've created my own variant of dvorak and can load it with loadkeys but dpkg-reconfigure console-data won't let me select it and thus keep through reboots
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16:15<weed3>I do not know any opensource ones, i have wiped my windows use
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16:17<Robjor>How do I make my keyboard layout stick between reboots?
16:17<Robjor>Console and X
16:18<Torsten_W>try dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
16:19<Robjor>Tried that a few times
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16:19<Torsten_W>then put the loadkeys-command in /etc/cr.local
16:19<Torsten_W>grr
16:19<bst>Robjor: try dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
16:19<Torsten_W>/etc/rc.local
16:19<Torsten_W>thats only for X afaik
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16:20<weed3>Small bug thing i guess.. My laptop has keys for shortcuts, like calc and brightness. When i press f2 it brings up the brightness...
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16:20<weed3>So i cannto push ctrl-alt-f2 to get a console.
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16:20<Robjor>you recon setxkbmap would work in rc.local?
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16:29<Robjor>rc.local worked for loadkeys
16:29<Robjor>did not for setxkbmap though
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16:29<Robjor>Any tips for X?
16:30<Robjor>xorg.conf doesn't seem to work
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16:31<Silicium01>I am behind a router, I set nameservers in resolve.conf but after a while it reverted back to routers setting. Is this because I use wirless adapter? How can I permanently set it?
16:31<Robjor>You using dhcp?
16:32<Silicium01>Robjor, I think so
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16:33<Robjor>Okey, I'd guess that's why it's revering back then
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16:33<Silicium01>Robjor, can it be forced?
16:34<Robjor>Sure
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16:34<Robjor>I just installed debian yesterday so I'm not all comfortable with the configs yet
16:34<Robjor>Can't really tell you how out of the blue
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16:36<weed3>Hmm
16:36<dupondje>Hi, somebody knows if its possible to bind a range of IPv6 addresses to eth0 ? And not IP by IP.
16:37<weed3>pastebin the resove.conf
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16:39<timon>Silicium01: read man dhclient.conf and look for the "supersede" statement, this might be what you want to use
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16:40<Silicium01>how do you search in man?
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16:40<timon>(make dhclient use a locally defined set rather than obtaining everything from the server. just remember what you have done when you leave home ;))
16:40<sney`>Silicium01: with the / key
16:40<timon>just do "man dhclient.conf", it's somewhere around line 350
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16:41<sney`>same as with vi or less
16:41<timon>yay, just learned something new :)
16:41<Silicium01>sney, thanks
16:41<Silicium01>timon, I'll look into it, thanks for advice
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16:42<Silicium01>I set router's dns to corect ip, but now I need to still force my comp to use specific one when I take it outside
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16:42<timon>that should be doable using the supersede statement
16:42<timon>I never tried it myself, though
16:42<sney`>seems like something you could do with whatever software you use to manage your connections, also. n-m or wicd or what have you
16:43<sney`>/etc/network/interfaces may even be able to do it
16:43<Silicium01>sney, is that the most common way of doing it?
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16:45<sney`>Silicium01: with network-manager or wicd? I'd certainly think so
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16:45<Silicium01>sney, I have no clue which I use. It's a squeeze install
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16:48<sney`>Silicium01: I think n-m is installed by default, but either way it'll be the little doohickey in your system tray with your signal strength.
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16:48<Silicium01>sney, yes, it's there
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17:02<mc68040>hi again, is there a way to convert a running eth0 into a bridge without disrupting existing connections using eth0?
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17:12<Robjor>This is gonna make me lose my sanity sooner or later... How in the world do I set X key layout with slim?
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17:18<ompaul>mc68040: that would be next to impossible, where is state preserved, you have taken a hop and moved it around
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17:19<mc68040>ompaul: thought already so :(
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17:20<mc68040>ompaul: the other solution would be to modify initrd to setup the bridge before iscsistart
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17:22<ompaul>mc68040: how big is the pipe and how many downstream
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17:23<mc68040>ompaul: ???
17:23<ompaul>mc68040: why go to this effort?
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17:24<mc68040>ompaul: diskless machine with root on iscsi, want to use kvm on this diskless machine with tap interfaces
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17:24<ompaul>mc68040: where does bridge come into this?
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17:26<ompaul>mc68040: real world - eth0 -> random-internal1-tun -> random-tap1 or what
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17:27<mc68040>ompaul: wanted to use kvm with "-net tap", then i need a bride with eth0 to connect the tap device to
17:28<mc68040>ompaul: using the standard /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup
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17:30<ompaul>mc68040: eth0 is not on the virtual machine if I understand your setup
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17:31<mc68040>ompaul: eth0 is the primary interface of the host system
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17:32<ompaul>mc68040: so you don't want the host system to have internet access?
17:32<ompaul>or do you want it to have two addresses?
17:34<mc68040>ompaul: host: bridge br0 with eth0 and tap0 as bridge_ports, virtual machine with virtual eth0 connected to tap0 on host
17:34<mc68040>ompaul: ofc br0 has an inet address and internet access
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17:35<MMWeb>Hey guys :)
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17:36<ompaul>mc68040: use this as starting point ifconfig eth0:1 but your initial question is strange because it does not want to lose packets that don't seem to belong to the vm maybe I'm not seeing something here
17:36<MMWeb>Anyways, I have a VPS (OpenVZ) running Debian 5 currently. I want it to be the backup server for my main server, and I need to set up an FTP server atop that. How would I do this?
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17:37<ompaul>MMWeb: you would use scp
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17:37<ompaul>MMWeb: or rsync you would not ever use ftp ;-)
17:37<MMWeb>How would I do that?
17:38<mc68040>ompaul: good idea with eth0:1, i investigate
17:38<ompaul>MMWeb: never used rsync?
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17:38<ompaul>MMWeb_: never used rsync?
17:38<MMWeb_>Not really.
17:39<ompaul>someone slipped it in your drink one evening? what do you mean not really?
17:39<mc68040>ompaul: the prob is that i cant easily reconfigure eth0 on the diskless host bcs every disk access uses it (tcp iscsi session)
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17:39<MMWeb>Rofl. I mean no.
17:40<ompaul>just checking
17:40<MMWeb>I've heard of it but never really used it.
17:40<ompaul>as I said :)
17:40<MMWeb>How would I set that up?
17:40<ompaul>mc68040: I'll leave that as an exercise for the user, I don't have your hardware so I can't even begin to work it out
17:41<mc68040>ompaul: lol
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17:42<ompaul>mc68040: fair is fair, timed restarting of networks might work then again local control is more fun
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17:43<Robjor>as far as i can tell changing keymap for slim is impossible...
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17:44<ompaul>MMWeb: so you have rsync installed on both ends, then you do something like this (naming helps a lot) this command works - there are many variants of it found in howtos and man pages :) rsync -ave ssh local/backup/* user@far-machine.com:/path/too/wherever/backup/.
17:44<vmassuchetto>where is a good place to get help about creating multiple keyboard layouts?
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17:49<Robjor>vmassuchetto: What kind of help?
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17:49<ompaul>Robjor: they have gone
17:49<Robjor>oh
17:49<ompaul>2 minutes and 5 seconds we were not fast enough it seems - linux must therefore suck or something ;-)
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17:50<Robjor>heh
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17:52<derp_trees>what is this i dont even
17:52<sney`>agreed.
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17:53<sney`>derp_trees: are you wondering how this got here, because you are not good with computer?
17:53<derp_trees>yes
17:53<sney`>if so, you've come to the right place, because this is the official Debian GNU/Linux support channel.
17:53<timon>anyone a native (probably US-) english speaker here? Could you please explain to me the meaning of "You must be able to write at 10-15 daily review. No excuses heard."?
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17:54<sney`>timon: that wasn't written by a native english speaker
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17:54<timon>(I get the part with "no excuses heard" and "you must be able...". I don't have a clue about the 10-15...)
17:54<ompaul>timon: of any version of english
17:54<sney`>what's the context?
17:55<ompaul>sney`: there can be a context?
17:55<timon>actually anyone able to explain "10-15" is welcome :) context: a freelance job offer (writing tech reviews)
17:55<sney`>well I'm guessing it has to do with school assignments
17:55<sney`>you must be able to write 10-15 reviews every day?
17:55<sney`>that's a lot, but I guess if they're short
17:56<ompaul>10 - 15 pages words paragraphs sentences
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17:56<sney`>ompaul: yeah, that makes sense
17:57<sney`>though which we have no idea
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17:57<timon>whatever, not gonna apply anyway - doesn't seem to give much pay for someone actually interesting in working them out rather than copying specs and linking them with "and"
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17:57<timon>and my english is getting worse and worse, I should just go to bed now
17:58<sney`>I'd only write tech articles if the inquirer came to me personally and begged me to do it
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18:00<timon>I'm in semi-desperate need of money so I'd take most jobs not-quite-killing-myself doing it
18:02<timon>just used the calculator ... average spending each month €725, expeceted income this month €584. Will use up my savings before finishing job traning if it goes on like that...
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18:03<timon>anyways, I'm off to bed ... have a nice time, everyone :)
18:03<retrospectacus>night
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18:24<Robjor>Finally!
18:25<Robjor>layout changed in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
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18:26<sonservant>hello
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18:27<sonservant>I have lenny running in a VMWorkstation on a windows box and sound isn't working, any suggestions?
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18:59<jthill>so, gtk-config doesn't seem to be installed by any package at all on squeeze, at least not if apt-file update, apt-file search gtk-config is enough to find it
19:01<retrospectacus>,file gtk-config
19:01<judd>gtk-config in lenny/i386: libgtk1.2-dev: usr/bin/gtk-config
19:02<retrospectacus>,file gtk-config --release squeeze
19:02<judd>No packages were found with that file.
19:02<retrospectacus>jthill: correct
19:03<retrospectacus>what's gtk-config for?
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19:03<jthill>gets compile flags and such for makes
19:04<retrospectacus>someone here probably knows about that
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19:04<amphi>jthill: you are building gtk 1.2 stuff?
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19:05<retrospectacus>you may want libgtk2.0-dev instead
19:05<jthill>fetched the bolo source, thought I'd give it a stab
19:06<retrospectacus>the tank game?
19:06<jthill>ayup
19:06<retrospectacus>swweeeeeet
19:06<madruga>Hey, Everybody ... How remove some directorys in search of "find" ?
19:06<jthill>hunted down cheshire's framing algorithm, made me think of bolo
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19:08<jthill>ok, don't know gtk at all. expect much silence on this one.
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19:11<retrospectacus>jthill: I suppose you'll have to port it to gtk2 or setup a lenny (or even etch) build env. to use gtk1
19:13<jthill>source package says it doesn't build on linux anyway, this from before squeeze.
19:13<jthill>yeah, bolo's worth at least a few hours
19:13<retrospectacus>it's a Mac game so... yeah tough going ahead I think
19:13<jthill>no, there's a windows port
19:14<retrospectacus>oh k
19:14<jthill>also ported to linux, but it didn't keep up
19:14<jthill>winbolo.net
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19:35<sret>x32hi
19:36<sret>anyone using tightvnc here? i set up tightvnc, changed the terminal manager to gnome-session &,, restarted vncserver, gave its goemetry, depth etc, but in realvnc> vncviewer in windows i cant seem to get a connection going, keeps saying connection refused 10061
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19:39<k3nnux_>port opened? sret
19:40<sret>i need to open the port? im trying to establish a local connection within my home
19:41<k3nnux_>may be the firewall
19:41<sret>i got no firewall setup in the debian box
19:41<jthill>retrospectacus: you know other bolo fans?
19:42<sret>retrospectacus: awake? any ideas?
19:42<retrospectacus>jthill: nah, just played it on the old macs at school when I was a kid :) good times
19:42<k3nnux_>client- server config
19:42<retrospectacus>sret: you have a tightvnc server running on debian?
19:43<sret>retrospectacus: now i do, i set it up
19:43<sret>yeah a tightvncserver not tightvncviewer, i want windows to view my linux desktop
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19:44<retrospectacus>on debian: nmap localhost -pvnc
19:44<retrospectacus>says what?
19:44<retrospectacus>(install nmap if not found)
19:45<sret>installing
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19:46<retrospectacus>says open or closed?
19:46<sret>5900/tcp closed vbc
19:46<retrospectacus>so the vncserver is not running then.
19:47<sret>ok vncserver started
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19:48<sret>i closed it awhile back because it wouldnt connect
19:49<sret>if i do nmap now it shows vnc is still closed on 5900/tcp
19:51<retrospectacus>ps fax|grep -v grep|grep vnc
19:51<retrospectacus>says something? or nothing
19:51<sret>yes
19:52<retrospectacus>so the vnc server is running but the port is not open
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19:52<barcelos>yooo ppl
19:53<barcelos>im running crunchbang linux and having some problems
19:53<retrospectacus>only debian is supported here.
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19:54<barcelos>its debian based i believe
19:54<retrospectacus>sret: run "netstat -plant |grep vnc" - anything?
19:54<retrospectacus>!based on debian
19:54<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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19:55<sret>yes
19:55<themill>barcelos: try #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net.
19:56<sret>xtightvnc listening on 1
19:56<sret>xtightvnc listen 1
19:56<sret>8309 tcp
19:56<sret>and 8309 tcp
19:56<sret>there's two ports i think 5900 for the first one and the second is 6001
19:57<retrospectacus>please say the exact output of the 5900 line
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19:58<sret> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5901 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 18309/Xtightvnc
19:59<retrospectacus>5901 eh... you'll want to specify that port in the windows client
19:59<retrospectacus>why? who knows..
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20:00<sret>ok and in the servername to connect to in Real vncviewer hostname.dyndns-work.com?
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20:01<sret>if so no connection refused 10061
20:01<retrospectacus>no, should be your local ip like 192.168.1.104
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20:01<sret>the debian machine is 192.168.0.8
20:01<retrospectacus>vncviewer 192.168.0.8:5901
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20:02<retrospectacus>or vncviewer 192.168.0.8 -p 5901
20:02<retrospectacus>or however the thing works
20:02<sret>same error
20:03<sret>Accept connections on port: 5901, Server java viewer via HTTP port i gave it as 6001, (even without 6001 it doesnt workk)
20:03<retrospectacus>http://192.168.0.8:6001/
20:04<sret>but it has an access control list which asks you to check " only accept connections from local machine, and then you need to add
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20:04<retrospectacus>well... rtfm I suppose, anyways I'm off. Beer o'clock here
20:05<sret>ok
20:06<sret>it works retrospectacus thakns! i needed to put the port in the server name
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20:07<retrospectacus>great. see y'all tomorrow
20:08<sret>retrospectacus: problem, im just getting a plain gry screen
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20:21<prozac>hi. i just started my computer and dont get sound. i get this from aplay -l: aplay: device_list:235: "keine Soundkarten gefunden ..." ->(no soundcard found..)
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20:25<jthill>ext4, turned on data=writeback,commit=600,noauto_da_alloc
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20:26<jthill>performance ... wow.
20:27<jthill>dpkg has been fixed to handle it, so that should be ok
20:27<dpkg>jthill: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
20:27<jthill>heh
20:28<jthill>just have to remember recovery is complete redo of everything in the last many minutes
20:28<jthill>in case of powerfail
20:29<sret>any ideas
20:29<jthill>and don't do that on root fs without setting the partition defaults with tune2fs
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20:29<jthill>unless you like playing with init=/bin/sh
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20:51<lukasoft>Hello, I have debian 64 bit and am trying to install flash in any browser that it will work in. I found http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq which worked until I ran the nspluginwrapper. I got the error "libssl3.so: cannot open shared object file". Any help is appreciated.
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20:55<jthill>lukasoft: get the square preview
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20:56<jthill>http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_2_p3_64bit_linux_111710.tar.gz
20:56<lukasoft>I could not find a link to the tar
20:56<lukasoft>thanks
20:57<lukasoft>is there a standard place to extract the .so file to?
20:57<sret>anyone using tightvncserver with gnome?
20:57<jthill>/home/jthill/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
20:57<jthill>^jthill^you
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20:59<lukasoft>the plugins folder doesn't exist. Should I create it?
20:59<jthill>yep
21:00<lukasoft>that was easy. Is there any way to get flash in chrome or is it not possible?
21:00<jthill>afaik chrome finds it in .moz just fine
21:01<jthill>btw you know google voice/talk works too?
21:01<lukasoft>ok, I'll check that out. Thanks a lot. What was the issue with the 32 bit version I was trying to install? I've never used nspluginwrapper.
21:02<jthill>me neither. was too gross for me to even try
21:02<lukasoft>haha ok. I just like to learn and understand things.
21:03<lukasoft>what about google voice? Are you asking if it works with chrome in linux?
21:04<jthill>no, saying. have a gv phone #, people can call me on it. which is good, because there's no cell reception at all in new apt.
21:04<jthill>video too
21:06<lukasoft>oh, thats awesome
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21:06<lukasoft>I haven't used it, but people have told me to haha
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21:13<sret>anyone know how to get tightvncserver using gnome working inwindows
21:13<sret>all i get is a solid grey background and my terminal window
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21:27<sret>pretty frustrating, im not sure what else to modify besides the xstartup script
21:27<sret>and theres no documentation for tightvncserver for debian
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21:37<sret>i even modified the remote desktop settings and still nothing
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21:47<ragnu>:set autoindent, what would that be in ~/.vimrc
21:48<jthill>ragnu: :help autoindent
21:48<jthill>in vim
21:48<ragnu>Thank you, sorry for simple question. I use to use nano )
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21:49<jthill>np,vi has a learning curve
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21:52<jthill>do go past the very basics. learn and get comfortable with all the motion commands not just arrow key equivs and search
21:52*nevyn only knows about 20 things about vim.
21:53<nevyn>d y c and then $ ^ word line and numbers.
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21:53<jthill>f F t T b B e E $ _ 0 ( ) { } , ; m ' ` ctrl-] tags gf ctrl-i ctrl-o
21:53<nevyn>f/b
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21:53<nevyn>but many of those are new to me.
21:53<jthill>zt z. v- H M L
21:54<nevyn>but like I know like 15 move commands
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21:54<nevyn>and delete, yank copy
21:54<nevyn>oh t I love t
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21:54<nevyn>ct" is one of my favorite tricks in quoted languages.
21:55<jthill>then you can compose e.g. quick word parenthesize, ciw()^[hp where ^[ is either escape or ctrl-[, same character
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21:57<jthill>spend the time, get fast, other editors will frustrate you no end
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22:48<ragnu>hmm?
22:51<ragnu>I cannot get my web cam to work, it did before :p. Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0ac8:3450 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
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22:54<edbian>Evolution shows the Date of my mail in 24 'military' format. Can I change it?
22:56<kop>,pciid 0ac8:3450
22:56<judd>[0ac8:3450] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0ac8:3450
22:57<kop>ragnu: Dunno if that means anything or not.
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22:58<EmleyMoor>Is there a good way to test to see if I can run svgalib programs on my system? (running squeeze)
23:04<edbian>EmleyMoor, try to run them
23:04<edbian>?
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23:09<EmleyMoor>I suppose what I'm really looking for is something to run
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23:13<jthill>EmleyMoor: http://www.svgalib.org/jay/beginners_guide/beginners_guide.html
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23:24<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... no visible output from sample, segfault on gradient
23:25<EmleyMoor>Will have to look into this further at some point
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23:27<jthill>did you run that from inside your X session?
23:29<EmleyMoor>jthill: No
23:29<EmleyMoor>sample does something but I can't see the red pixel
23:30<jthill>make it setuid root?
23:30<EmleyMoor>Already done
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23:32<reklipz>Is it possible to use WOL to wake from a suspended system.
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