Back to Home / #debian / 2011 / 04 / Prev Day | Next Day
#debian IRC Logs for 2011-04-05

---Logopened Tue Apr 05 00:00:12 2011
00:01-!-alice [~alice@112.205.193.204] has joined #debian
00:01-!-whirli [~whirl@dsl-trebrasgw2-fe47f900-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #debian
00:01-!-Megaf [~Debian@haiku-br.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:03-!-alice [~alice@112.205.193.204] has quit []
00:05-!-Steven4324 [~fd@adsl-69-110-13-24.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:06-!-thierry [~thierry@41.208.153.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:06-!-sortadi [~sortadi@190.39.177.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:07-!-th_ [~Administr@182.4.110.180] has joined #debian
00:07-!-th [~Administr@182.1.30.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:07-!-lillecarl [~lillecarl@d90-142-147-37.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:08-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
00:08-!-thierry [~thierry@41.208.153.10] has joined #debian
00:14<jrabbit>how can you get the option of installign the package's upstream configure file again?
00:14*jrabbit broke his apache install
00:15-!-chgtg [~chg@119.112.104.35] has joined #debian
00:16<tsoliman>I think you delete it and reinstall
00:16<tsoliman>but I am not sure
00:16<tsoliman>how about you move it and reinstall?
00:16<amphi>!confmiss
00:16<dpkg>The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>.
00:17-!-momina [~momina@15.211.153.74] has joined #debian
00:17<jrabbit>ohhh
00:17<tsoliman>amphi: you know, sometimes when upgrading I keep getting conf files again in the worst places ... like in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ when I really moved them to virtual hosts .. not sure why that is
00:17<jrabbit>its not a cofngi I don't think...
00:17<jrabbit>[31625430.744811] apache2[1829]: segfault at b5993000 ip b5993000 sp bfd8d6dc error 4 in pdo_mysql.so[b5996000+6000]
00:18<tsoliman>jrabbit: how is that "a package's upstream configure file"?
00:18<jrabbit>tsoliman: I updated apache before this happeend
00:19<tsoliman>!checkrestart
00:19-!-kurohige [~libertad@r190-135-219-246.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
00:19<jrabbit>I figured it was my choice to use my own copy of the cofnig and not the pkg maintainer's
00:19<amphi>jrabbit: is that a consistent reproducible segfault?
00:20<jrabbit>well its happening repeatdly it seems to be a php issue
00:20<jrabbit>http://pecl.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=12141&edit=1
00:20<jrabbit>[31619294.477941] php[31356]: segfault at b62dd000 ip b62dd000 sp bf805a1c error 4 in pdo_mysql.so[b62e0000+6000]
00:20<jrabbit>[31619534.565306] php5[31383]: segfault at b62ae000 ip b62ae000 sp bf9b65cc error 4 in pdo_mysql.so[b62b1000+6000]
00:20-!-PadawanLearner [~jc@bl6-8-21.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:22-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.21.84] has joined #debian
00:22<jrabbit>Can't even load php to check what the conf was
00:23-!-chitchat [~guest@120.20.247.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:24-!-ssmith [~scott@173-29-77-242.client.mchsi.com] has joined #debian
00:26<tsoliman>dpkg: checkrestart is a program that tries to determine if there are processes in the system that need to be restarted after a system upgrade. It is part of the debian-goodies package.
00:26<dpkg>okay, tsoliman
00:26-!-Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:26-!-sigs [~phil@ip98-165-224-84.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
00:27<jrabbit>Bah
00:28-!-ArthurLiu [~arthurliu@krikkit.milliways.fr] has joined #debian
00:29-!-lillecarl [~lillecarl@d90-142-147-37.cust.tele2.se] has joined #debian
00:30-!-Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has joined #debian
00:32-!-vincent_c [~vincent@24.86.171.15] has joined #debian
00:33-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@ip72-206-102-29.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
00:38-!-PadawanLearner [~jc@bl18-118-101.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #debian
00:39-!-momina [~momina@15.211.153.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:39<jrabbit>[31626661.811231] php[5676]: segfault at b620f000 ip b620f000 sp bfccab0c error 4 in snmp.so[b6212000+5000]
00:39<jrabbit>Wtf
00:39<jrabbit>I commented out the PDO stuff
00:39<jrabbit>now more errors
00:40-!-Judas_PhD [~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Quit: This is a quitting message]
00:42-!-chgtg [~chg@119.112.104.35] has quit [Quit: leaving]
00:43-!-lillecarl [~lillecarl@d90-142-147-37.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:43<th_>http://www.debian.org/vote/2011/platforms/
00:43<th_>only 1 candidate?
00:44<PadawanLearner>th_: well, i don't know, but if so it will be a quick election...
00:45-!-Unmensch [~steven@p4FCDFA5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:45<PadawanLearner>jrabbit: snmp agent building?
00:46-!-Unmensch [~steven@p4FCDFA5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
00:48<jrabbit>PadawanLearner: hmmm? no
00:48<jrabbit>php is breaking and causing apache to explode
00:48<jrabbit>i jsut reinstalled php5
00:48<jrabbit>to no luck
00:48-!-Covenant [~guest@c-75-72-148-96.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #debian
00:49-!-george_ [~george@66.11.174.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:49<PadawanLearner>jrabbit: you have installed php-snmp?
00:49<PadawanLearner>or something like that?
00:50<PadawanLearner>that seems to be the culprit
00:50-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
00:50-!-vincent_c [~vincent@24.86.171.15] has left #debian [Leaving]
00:50-!-fladi [~fladische@2001:470:1f0b:11df:22:19ff:fe1c:6b47] has joined #debian
00:50<PadawanLearner>inhibit that in apache or remove it temporarilly
00:50-!-Covenant [~guest@c-75-72-148-96.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit []
00:50<jrabbit>PadawanLearner: its not that
00:50-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.21.84] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:50<jrabbit>before it as pdo mysql
00:50<jrabbit>I don't get it
00:51<PadawanLearner>have you strace apache ?
00:51<jrabbit>nope
00:51<PadawanLearner>i know it's a lot of output, but it could clear things up...
00:51-!-chitchat [~guest@ppp59-167-188-93.static.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
00:51<PadawanLearner>and i would try to remove all modules first
00:52<PadawanLearner>and then add them one by one
00:52-!-paris [~paris@c-24-19-201-113.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
00:52-!-chgtg [~chg@119.112.104.35] has joined #debian
00:53-!-albert [~albert@114.101.196.79] has joined #debian
00:53<jrabbit>sldo apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
00:53<paris>how to insert more text into open office writer?
00:53<jrabbit>which is extraneous because its segfaulting ...
00:54-!-hardwalker [~hardwalke@114-33-201-92.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
00:54<jrabbit>https://gist.github.com/903057
00:55<PadawanLearner>jrabbit: i'm netinstalling, so no handydandy browser
00:55<PadawanLearner>...
00:55<jrabbit>oh uh
00:55-!-paris [~paris@c-24-19-201-113.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit []
00:55<jrabbit>raw: https://gist.github.com/raw/903057/119e707306593ee42ecaa5700175f8cc24a16ff5/apache%20strace
00:55<jrabbit>you can curl and less that
00:56<PadawanLearner>i could if i had copy paste facility's, and a mouse/touchpad ...
00:57<jrabbit>https://gist.github.com/raw/903061/547f3f31b52679b611b58af1d9c93751820be3c9/gistfile1.txt
00:57<PadawanLearner>try as i told you: remove all php mods, and then see if it segfaults
00:57<PadawanLearner>after that, if it doesn't break, just add the modules one by one
00:58<jrabbit>write(3, "#line 1 \"/usr/share/slice/Murmur"..., 12288) = 12288
00:58<jrabbit>hmmm its actually doing murmur shit odd
00:59<jrabbit>mumble-server: /usr/share/slice/Murmur.ice
00:59<PadawanLearner>you had removed it?
00:59-!-S_WO [~swo@ip-95-223-137-163.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
01:00<jrabbit>not yet
01:00<jrabbit>lemme try it
01:00-!-sortadi [~sortadi@190.39.177.151] has joined #debian
01:01-!-albert [~albert@114.101.196.79] has quit [Quit: 离开]
01:04-!-srw [~swo@ip-95-223-137-163.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:04-!-cahoot [~radix@c83-252-75-32.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #debian
01:08-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has joined #debian
01:12-!-ryanakca [ryan@ryanak.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:12-!-w3asel [~w3asel@190.198.18.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:13-!-massmc_ [~massmc@r220-101-148-75.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #debian
01:14-!-Se-bash [~seba@host99.190-225-34.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:14-!-massmc_ [~massmc@r220-101-148-75.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit []
01:18-!-zack1_ [~zack1@pool-173-60-121-44.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
01:21<dondelelcaro>zack1_: please don't do that
01:21-!-zack1_ [~zack1@pool-173-60-121-44.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has left #debian [Leaving]
01:23-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: night]
01:25-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.18.140] has joined #debian
01:26-!-nepenthe [~quassel@GZKMMDCXXIV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
01:27-!-taffit_ [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:28-!-LegolasV [~whoeiii35@5357E5DF.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
01:29-!-bgupta [~bgupta@h-68-164-142-90.nycmny83.static.covad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:29-!-bgupta [~bgupta@h-68-164-142-90.nycmny83.static.covad.net] has joined #debian
01:31<hemanth>any tried installing drivers for ATI HD Radeon 3200 on stable ?
01:32-!-freex [~user@212-183-51-251.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:33-!-cahoot [~radix@c83-252-75-32.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:34-!-th [~Administr@182.1.173.74] has joined #debian
01:34-!-th_ [~Administr@182.4.110.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:37-!-mmgc84 [~mmgc84@dynamic90-114.MAN-B2-3.cablenet.com.ni] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
01:39-!-Lanz [~Lanz@dyn129-100-195-166.smh.reznet.uwo.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:40-!-aranax [~aranax@200.49.190.30] has joined #debian
01:40-!-ryanakca [ryan@2001:470:b05b::3] has joined #debian
01:41-!-freex [~user@212-183-50-204.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
01:43-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.84.133] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:46-!-george_ [~george@66.11.174.71] has joined #debian
01:46-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
01:49-!-vook [~vook@ip174-65-98-5.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
01:52-!-melmothX [~melmothX@93-137-10-84.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
01:52-!-sako [~sako@66.214.246.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:56-!-jmho [~quassel@port-87-193-192-142.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
01:56-!-jmho [~quassel@port-87-193-192-142.static.qsc.de] has joined #debian
01:57-!-thierry [~thierry@41.208.153.10] has quit [Quit: thierry]
01:59-!-jg123 [~jan@212.51.7.162] has joined #debian
01:59-!-jg123 [~jan@212.51.7.162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:02-!-tensorpudding [~user@99.148.205.193] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:02-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.83.16] has joined #debian
02:02-!-nathan [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
02:04-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:04<hemanth>any hacker tried installing drivers for ATI HD Radeon 3200 on stable ?
02:05-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has joined #debian
02:05-!-inix1 [~inix@p5B0240D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
02:05-!-scrp3l [~scrp3l__@201.250.145.242] has joined #debian
02:07-!-krayn [~Adium@host10-161-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
02:07-!-slsimic [~athlon@151-172-222-85.adsl.verat.net] has joined #debian
02:07-!-hemanth [~hemanth@202.122.16.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:07-!-Judas_PhD [~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
02:08-!-chgtg [~chg@119.112.104.35] has quit [Quit: leaving]
02:09-!-inix [~inix@p5B0240D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
02:10-!-sigs [~phil@ip98-165-224-84.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:13-!-Nies [~YoMismo@239.Red-88-24-186.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
02:13-!-hemanth [~hemanth@202.122.16.37] has joined #debian
02:15-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:16-!-alephnull [~alok@122.172.10.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:18-!-hemanth [~hemanth@202.122.16.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:18-!-Donciakas [~Donciakas@client-178-16-42-66.inturbo.lt] has joined #debian
02:20-!-jm_ [flier@icc.mindwipe.org] has joined #debian
02:20-!-hemanth [~hemanth@202.122.16.37] has joined #debian
02:21-!-mode/#debian [+l 441] by debhelper
02:22-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:25-!-esmaeil [~esmaeil@94.182.48.2] has joined #debian
02:27-!-wofiretiger [~wofiretig@180.171.74.175] has joined #debian
02:28<wofiretiger>大家好
02:28<wofiretiger>hello everyone!
02:29-!-wofiretiger [~wofiretig@180.171.74.175] has quit []
02:29-!-Greg [~Greg@graska.reolight.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
02:36-!-foolano [~magnetic@192.Red-83-33-124.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
02:38-!-ilya80 [~kvirc@94.19.126.131] has joined #debian
02:38-!-drayakir [~drayakir@ool-4575848a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
02:40<drayakir>Hey guys. After deciding to switch over to OSS, I hit a bit of a snag. I remove alsa, but the oss did not install over it.
02:40<hemanth>any hacker tried installing drivers for ATI HD Radeon 3200 on stable ? (Catalyst)
02:40<drayakir>When I try to run aumix, it tells me that there's nothing in /dev/mixer
02:41<drayakir>During boot, it says that there's no kernel modules for oss. So, I'm guessing installing the kernel module for oss4 would do it. Is that correct?
02:42<vook>drayakir: what chipset ?
02:42<drayakir>And if it is correct, how likely am I to kill my system? Should I create a backup of the current kernel on a flashdrive?
02:42<drayakir>Er, one moment
02:42<drayakir>00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
02:43<vook>drayakir: i'll be back - rebooting from macos into linux
02:43-!-vook [~vook@ip174-65-98-5.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #debian []
02:44-!-vizor [~vizor@178.121.161.17] has joined #debian
02:46-!-paris [~paris@c-24-19-201-113.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
02:47<paris>How to make a wobble effect in debian 6
02:47-!-vook [~vook@ip174-65-98-5.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
02:48-!-trifolio6 [~h@84.127.65.216.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:48-!-paris [~paris@c-24-19-201-113.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit []
02:48<vook>is snd_hda_intel loaded ?
02:49-!-barbanegra [~libertad@r190-64-169-117.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
02:49<drayakir>Nope
02:50<vook>drayakir: I'll pastebin the snd mods I have loaded
02:51<vook>http://paste.debian.net/113034
02:52-!-kurohige [~libertad@r190-135-219-246.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
02:53<drayakir>Okay, but presumably I can't just apt-get them, or dpkg them? I'd need to download them, and put them into the kernel, or modprobe them? I'm still a bit (well, moreso) of a newb, so I'm not quite sure.
02:53-!-silver4e [~silver4e@ip-75-188.interbild.net] has joined #debian
02:53<drayakir>Er, insmod them.
02:54-!-silver4e [~silver4e@ip-75-188.interbild.net] has quit []
02:54<vook>drayakir: you should be able to 'modprobe snd_hda_intel' and snd_mixer_oss
02:55<drayakir>Say, I think that worked. Now, reboot?
02:55<vook>nah, no need to reboot
02:56<vook>the other dependent modules should've loaded automagically
02:57<drayakir>Coool. And yeah, they did.
02:57-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.83.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:57<drayakir>So, theoretically, what did I do wrong originally?
02:57<drayakir>I mean, the module was there all along?
02:57-!-liverwurst [~wurst@p508C2248.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
02:58<vook>ya - I dunno - I've not had to manually load modules in a while.
02:58<drayakir>Huh.
02:58<drayakir>Okay, well, thanks a lot! Hopefully Arcanum will now work!
02:58*vook uses alsa-base with oss-compat
02:58-!-drayakir [~drayakir@ool-4575848a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
02:59<th>that was fast
03:00<jm_>drayakir: are you aware that snd_hda_intel is ALSA?
03:00<jm_>doh, too late
03:01<vook>ya - if only I could show this to potential employers...
03:02-!-pvl1 [~pvl1@pool-71-185-169-205.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
03:04-!-berto [~berto@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
03:05-!-vizor [~vizor@178.121.161.17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:05-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:07-!-schovi [~schovi@proxy.seznam.cz] has joined #debian
03:07-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has joined #debian
03:07-!-schovi [~schovi@proxy.seznam.cz] has left #debian []
03:09-!-guess75 [~joe@net-93-67-206-146.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #debian
03:10-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
03:10-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.102.49] has joined #debian
03:11-!-krayn [~Adium@host10-161-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
03:11-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice1n1.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
03:13-!-rohs [~rohs@145.Red-79-153-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:14-!-guess75 [~joe@net-93-67-206-146.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit []
03:14-!-aranax [~aranax@200.49.190.30] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
03:15-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
03:18-!-vook [~vook@ip174-65-98-5.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #debian []
03:19-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.102.49] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:19-!-towo` [~torsten_w@178-25-189-3-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
03:19-!-chitchat [~guest@ppp59-167-188-93.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
03:21-!-ilya80 [~kvirc@94.19.126.131] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:24-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has joined #debian
03:27-!-jibel_ [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
03:28-!-paulpiscuc [~paul@193.33.200.14] has joined #debian
03:28-!-paulpiscuc [~paul@193.33.200.14] has left #debian []
03:36-!-Parsifal [~steven@CPE-124-183-165-76.lns16.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #debian
03:38-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.51.134] has joined #debian
03:40-!-xor_ [~xor@cryptoanarchy.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:42-!-mwalling [mwalling@mwalling.noc.oftc.net] has quit [autokilled: possible spambot. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. (2011-04-05 07:42:09)]
03:43-!-zeroedout [~quassel@S01060080c6fcfaab.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:47-!-foolano [~magnetic@192.Red-83-33-124.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
03:47-!-foolano [~magnetic@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:48-!-cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian
03:48-!-mohammad [~mohammad@78.38.243.138] has joined #debian
03:49<mohammad>hi
03:49<mohammad>i have Del inspron5010 and
03:50<mohammad>i want install driver
03:50<mohammad>how to do it
03:50<mohammad>????????????????//
03:50<stitch>??????
03:51<esmaeil>hi
03:52-!-mohammad [~mohammad@78.38.243.138] has quit []
03:52<esmaeil>mohammad: what driver you want install?
03:52-!-esmaeil [~esmaeil@94.182.48.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:53-!-mohammad [~mohammad@78.38.243.136] has joined #debian
03:53-!-rjcks [~richard@28IAAATEF.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:56<mohammad>hi
03:56<mohammad>i have DELL insprone n5010 and i want install grafik how to do it?
03:58<jm_>what does "install grafik" mean?
03:58<mohammad>kernel driver
03:58-!-themill [~stuart@themill.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:59-!-ao2 [~u@2001:1418:117::1] has joined #debian
03:59<jm_>which graphic chipset does it have then?
03:59<mohammad>ati 5600
04:00<mjt>so that's a radeon driver, should work out of the box in squeeze
04:00<mohammad>contriler is vga
04:00-!-eof_ [~eof@178.123.164.148] has joined #debian
04:00<mohammad>not full install
04:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 447] by debhelper
04:01<mohammad>controler is vga
04:01<chealer>mohammad: what is your native language?
04:02<mohammad>what means of native
04:02<dEhiN>the language you are most fluent in
04:02-!-eof [~eof@178.123.154.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:02<mohammad>persian
04:02<mohammad>can you write persian
04:03<dEhiN>no I can't
04:04<dEhiN>so you want to install the kernel driver for an ati 5600 card which is on your dell inspiron n5010?
04:04<mohammad>i typeing lspci -n
04:04<mohammad>and view this
04:05<dEhiN>don't paste the whole output here please
04:05<mohammad>ATI Technologies Inc Redwood [Radeon HD 5600 Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
04:05<mohammad>lspci -v
04:06<jm_>mohammad: verify if your version of radeond river supports it - man 4 radeon
04:06-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.6.234] has joined #debian
04:07<dEhiN>hi all, is there a web interface to an archive of the various debian mailing lists?
04:07<mohammad>not man
04:07<mohammad>for radeon
04:08<jm_>dEhiN: there's alink on the main debian web page -- http://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html
04:08-!-hnschl [~hnschl@p4FC58079.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
04:08-!-momina [~momina@15.211.153.74] has joined #debian
04:08<mohammad>tanks
04:08<jm_>do you even have xserver-xorg-video-radeon package installed?
04:08<dEhiN>mohammad: yes there should be, type "man radeon"
04:09<mohammad>not worked
04:09<mohammad>ok
04:09<mohammad>ok
04:09-!-erez [~erez@95.211.21.37] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
04:10<mjt>manpage for radeon driver comes with xserver-xorg-video-radeon package
04:10<mjt>which may be different from the one comes with kernel (wich is the main component of the driver)
04:10-!-mosno [~mosno@eth3903.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:11<mohammad>on this man not model of hd 5600
04:11-!-PnvP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has joined #debian
04:11<mjt>oh, it's _HD_ 5600...
04:12-!-Zaba [~zaba@ip102.148.adsl.wplus.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:13-!-foolano [~magnetic@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
04:13-!-foolano [~magnetic@192.Red-83-33-124.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:14<mohammad>where are you?
04:14<mohammad>mjt
04:14<mjt>in russia
04:14<mohammad>please help me
04:14-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:14-!-krayn [~Adium@93-45-91-38.ip101.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
04:14<mohammad>it is beutiful country
04:15-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
04:15<mohammad>are you angry
04:15<mohammad>??????????
04:16<mjt>why should i be angry?
04:16<cannesahs>please stop flooding
04:16<mohammad>oh
04:16<mohammad>ok
04:16<mjt>!radeon
04:16<dpkg>Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by ATI/AMD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>.
04:16-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.51.134] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:16<mjt>i tried to find some reference - which cards are supported since which kernel versions
04:17<dEhiN>is libgl1-mesa-dri in the main repository?
04:17<mohammad>tanks
04:17<mohammad>very tanks
04:17<mohammad>and by
04:18<mjt>AtiHowto wiki page is somewhat outdated and confusing
04:19-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit []
04:19-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
04:19-!-toabctl_ [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
04:19-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:20-!-maggi_ [~hnschl@p4FC58079.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
04:20-!-mohammad [~mohammad@78.38.243.136] has quit [Quit: leaving]
04:20<devil>http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature might help
04:21-!-lofyer [~lofyer@122.159.252.139] has joined #debian
04:21-!-ZykoticK9 [~zykotick9@66.11.174.71] has joined #debian
04:21-!-thierry [~thierry@41.208.153.10] has joined #debian
04:22-!-ZykoticK9 [~zykotick9@66.11.174.71] has quit []
04:22<chealer>!info libgl1-mesa-dri
04:22-!-toabctl_ [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:23<dpkg>libgl1-mesa-dri: (A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- DRI modules), section libs, is optional. Version: 7.10-4 (sid), Packaged size: 15279 kB, Installed size: 45032 kB
04:23-!-costas [~costas@ppp089210012129.dsl.hol.gr] has joined #debian
04:23-!-alephnull [~alok@122.172.10.87] has joined #debian
04:23<costas>hello again fellow linuxheads...
04:24<hemanth>any hacker tried installing drivers for ATI HD Radeon 3200 on stable ? (Catalyst)
04:24<costas>I need a twm howto page to get rid of my mouse, keyboard shortcuts etc, please assist...
04:24<costas>hemanth, I had it last month, proprietary drivers worked fine
04:24-!-hnschl [~hnschl@p4FC58079.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:25<chealer>devil: ^^ yes
04:25<chealer>sorry devil
04:25<chealer>dEhiN: ^^ yes
04:25<devil>dont be sorry :)
04:25<costas>be even 8-D
04:25<hemanth>costas, i installed but i did not notice any enhancements, can u link me to drivers u tried
04:26<costas>hemanth, first find your vga on the amd page, then...
04:26<costas>!ati
04:26-!-xbytemx [~xbytemx@189.221.37.87.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:26<dpkg>To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net).
04:26<hemanth>costas, cos when i maximize or minimize windows, i see delayed window borders
04:26<costas>got it?
04:26<mjt>!evergreen
04:26<dpkg>Evergreen is a GPU family by AMD, featured in their Radeon PCIe (HD54xx-HD5970) and <IGP> (HD6250, HD6310, HD63xxM, HD65xxM, HD68xxM) products. Some are supported by the <radeon> and <fglrx> Xorg drivers available in Squeeze. Also the name of an open source Integrated Library System (http://evergreen-ils.org/) and <OpenSUSE> community maintenance project (http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen).
04:26-!-xbytemx [~xbytemx@189.221.37.87.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #debian
04:26-!-LegolasV [~whoeiii35@5357E5DF.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: sudo umount /dev/internet]
04:26-!-LegolasV [~whoeiii35@5357E5DF.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
04:26-!-broucaries [~bastien@194.199.171.118] has joined #debian
04:27<costas>hemanth ATI drivers need fine tuning by the ATI config app, easy, just follow the guidelines
04:27-!-erez [~erez@95.211.21.37] has joined #debian
04:27-!-dandelion [~dandelion@131.red-80-26-205.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:27<costas>if you have any more questions feel free to ask, I got an invisible pointer here until next kernel release, and that means time man...
04:28<costas>!twm
04:28<dpkg>hmm... twm is a very basic window manager for X.
04:28<costas>!gdm
04:28<dpkg><GNOME> Display Manager (GDM) is a <display manager> based on <xdm>, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind. It uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession. http://projects.gnome.org/gdm #gdm on irc.gimp.org. Not to be confused with the General Purpose Mouse (GPM) interface, see <gpm>.
04:28-!-LegolasV [~whoeiii35@5357E5DF.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit []
04:28-!-krayn [~Adium@93-45-91-38.ip101.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
04:29-!-krayn [~Adium@93-45-91-38.ip101.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
04:29-!-vizor [~vizor@86.57.255.94] has joined #debian
04:29-!-LegolasV [~whoeiii35@5357E5DF.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
04:29-!-vizor [~vizor@86.57.255.94] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:30-!-Martian67 [~Martian67@04ZAAAX59.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:30-!-LegolasV [~whoeiii35@5357E5DF.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit []
04:30<costas>hemanthif you're new at this, first get the proper drivers for your card then read how to config x properly to avoid an x crash, it's easy man...
04:30-!-LegolasV [~whoeiii35@5357E5DF.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
04:31-!-Martian67 [~Martian67@04ZAAAYR4.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:31<hemanth>costas, complied latest version of kernel 38.1
04:31<costas>kernel supports your VGA? if not go back...
04:31-!-maggi_ [~hnschl@p4FC58079.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #debian [Konversation terminated!]
04:32-!-scrp3l [~scrp3l__@201.250.145.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:32<costas>ATI site has more info about your specific model...
04:32<hemanth>costas, install drivers also downloaded from amd.com and it auto generated xorg.conf file also, but i see window borders (latent) once i minimize and maximize windows
04:33-!-stderr_dk [~pohol@0x55517066.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:33<costas>damn... you're sure your system has the right VGA recognized? on nvidia cards I use legacy drivers that work fine...
04:34<costas>make sure your driver is right man
04:35-!-xor_ [~xor@cryptoanarchy.org] has joined #debian
04:35<costas>it's kinda vague that it's a kernel issue, double check
04:35-!-alvarezp [~alvarezp@189.220.25.86.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #debian
04:35<costas>let me know, if it doesn't work...
04:36<hemanth>costas, yes lscpi shows the right drivers, dmesg no issues, modinfo fine, what else
04:36<costas>you got all necessary libs?
04:36<hemanth>costas, yes got them all
04:36-!-dandelion [~dandelion@142.Red-88-3-252.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:37<costas>did you set resolution, right? sometimes damn ATI drivers need proper HZ calibration from gnome...
04:37-!-chealer [~chealer@modemcable022.66-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:37<hemanth>costas, http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Squeeze wont help right?
04:37<hemanth>costas, resolution is all fine, expect this window issue :(
04:38<costas>if you have a recent ATI card that is the way to go...
04:38<costas>start from your VGA model, and work backwards...
04:38<costas>bastard invisible mouse... >8-(
04:39-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
04:39<costas>can't browse to help you more hemanth
04:39-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-114.telpol.net.pl] has joined #debian
04:39<hemanth>costas, no issues, i was thinking ATI HD Radeon 3200 was a pretty good card...hmm
04:39-!-dEhiN [dEhiN@CPE0016b6147881-CM0014f8cd41da.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit []
04:42-!-alienux [~theXman@wana-120-232-12-196.wanamaroc.com] has joined #debian
04:43-!-omry [~omry@DSL212-235-83-63.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #debian
04:46-!-Judas_PhD [~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Quit: This is a quitting message]
04:49-!-momina [~momina@15.211.153.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:50<cannesahs>is there some ready script/tool to compare package's files against installed files?
04:52-!-alvarezp [~alvarezp@189.220.25.86.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has quit [Quit: alvarezp]
04:52<cannesahs>mainly looking for diff of installed config giles against package's config giles
04:53-!-amarprasovic [~aprasovic@ppp-93-104-9-126.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
04:54-!-amarprasovic [~aprasovic@ppp-93-104-9-126.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has left #debian []
04:59<fnmueller>cannesahs: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=61447 worked for me
05:01<nevyn>etckeeper ?
05:01<cannesahs>costas: look what fnmueller misstold to me
05:01-!-Claudinux [~claudio@94.161.137.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:02<fnmueller>well, this is about an intel issue, but it's so damn similar
05:03-!-ifvoid_ is now known as ifvoid
05:03<cannesahs>nevyn: hmm. looks useful, but don't solve existing differences finding.
05:04-!-Kees1988 [~Kees1988@77.62.152.69] has joined #debian
05:04-!-Kees1988 [~Kees1988@77.62.152.69] has quit []
05:05-!-aroundthfur [~change@host-125-110.panorama.sth.ac.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:08-!-f8l [~f8l@87-205-71-245.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #debian
05:09-!-Greg [~Greg@graska.reolight.net] has joined #debian
05:10-!-towo` [~torsten_w@178-25-189-3-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: so, nu isser wech]
05:10-!-Parsifal [~steven@CPE-124-183-165-76.lns16.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:11-!-phillipsjk [router@dhcp602-2-143.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has quit [Quit: sleep]
05:11<nevyn>cannesahs: so.. apt-get install --reinstall package will show you the diff's
05:11<nevyn>cannesahs: but that's a pretty brutal way to crack a walnut.
05:11-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
05:12<cannesahs>nevyn: ooh. thanks. that is still excatly what I was looking for
05:12-!-maxxuletz [~maxx@18.pool85-54-45.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #debian
05:12-!-NoxDaFox [~nox@93-39-44-253.ip74.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
05:13<nevyn>cannesahs: it's actually one of the things I think rpm handles a little better than deb.
05:13-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
05:14<nevyn>but then I remember rpm allows dependancies on files and that's ugly.
05:14-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:14-!-rovanion_ [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
05:15-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
05:15<nevyn>but I don't know of a dpkg equivilent to rpm -qv
05:15-!-L0rD` [~anon@09GAAC81O.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:16<petemc>what does rpm -qv do ?
05:16<cannesahs>just.. where in *beep* etckeeper (git) stores repo?
05:16<nevyn>cannesahs: /etc/.git
05:17<cannesahs>oh. ofc.. *sigh*
05:17<nevyn>petemc: verify every installed file against the package size
05:18-!-rovanion_ [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:18-!-stderr_dk [~pohol@gw1.imm.dtu.dk] has joined #debian
05:18-!-babilen [~babilen@dhcp-91-051.inf.ed.ac.uk] has joined #debian
05:18<petemc>debsums checks installed packages md5sums
05:18-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
05:18-!-micc [~ubuntu@178-191-165-231.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
05:19<nevyn>including configs?
05:19<petemc>no
05:19-!-maxxuletz [~maxx@18.pool85-54-45.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
05:19<petemc>against the md5sum supplied with the packages
05:19<nevyn>http://packman.linux.is/ ...
05:21-!-mode/#debian [+l 454] by debhelper
05:23-!-KNUBBIG [KNUBBIG@dslb-084-056-214-197.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
05:27-!-th_ [~Administr@182.10.31.12] has joined #debian
05:27-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
05:27-!-th [~Administr@182.1.173.74] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:28-!-pvl1 [~pvl1@pool-71-185-169-205.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:29-!-gamambel [~torsrvrs@anonymizer1.torservers.net] has joined #debian
05:30-!-paul [~paul@rrcs-69-193-78-233.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
05:31-!-paul is now known as Guest689
05:31-!-chealer [~chealer@modemcable022.66-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian
05:31-!-Guest689 [~paul@rrcs-69-193-78-233.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit []
05:32-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has joined #debian
05:32-!-debian2 [~debian2@120.Red-88-27-150.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:32-!-debian2 [~debian2@120.Red-88-27-150.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
05:35-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:37-!-th_ [~Administr@182.10.31.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:39-!-jkf [~Greg_od@30920.user.farlep.net] has joined #debian
05:41-!-jkf [~Greg_od@30920.user.farlep.net] has left #debian []
05:44-!-gamambel [~torsrvrs@anonymizer1.torservers.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:44-!-MibMob [dennis@euve19389.server4you.net] has joined #debian
05:44-!-gamambel [~torsrvrs@anonymizer1.torservers.net] has joined #debian
05:45<MibMob>Hello. Anyone know of a good guide for securing the ssh login on your server?
05:45-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@102.246.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
05:48-!-jeff_hann [~arares@89.47.83.116] has joined #debian
05:48-!-PadawanLearner [~jc@bl18-118-101.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:49-!-phoenix [~phoenix@axi145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
05:49<babilen>MibMob: Secure in what way?
05:50<babilen>MibMob: What comes to mind are: make sure root logins are enables, disable password logins and use key with passphrases (ssh-agent makes this easy) ... The most secure setup is probably to remove the ssh server altogether.
05:50<devil>MibMob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys is a good start
05:51<nevyn>babilen: I assume you mean disabled.
05:51<gsimmons>costas: Updated linux-image-* packages correcting the 855GM IGP issue are available in stable-proposed-updates ; /msg dpkg proposed-updates
05:51<babilen>MibMob: err, yes, disabled
05:51<cannesahs>root logins are enables?.. oh corrected :)
05:51<babilen>nevyn: I've spotted that mistake in the same second you mentioned it :)
05:52<cannesahs>and maybe type login allowed users to config file, it that is static list.
05:52-!-NoxDaFox [~nox@93-39-44-253.ip74.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
05:53-!-NoxDaFox [~nox@93-39-44-253.ip74.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
05:53<nevyn>MibMob: most of the rest of the ssh securing stuff is pretty sane. allow only protocol v2 not v1
05:53-!-babilen [~babilen@dhcp-91-051.inf.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving]
05:53-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
05:53<nevyn>MibMob: common wisdom that I'm not a fan of says disable X11 forwarding and TCP port forwarding
05:54<[machine]>since i actually develop one of the most common ssh bruteforcers... i would say [Allow|Deny][Users|Groups] is very useful
05:58-!-lelamal [~quassel@host198-105-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
05:59-!-thierry [~thierry@41.208.153.10] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:00-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
06:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 460] by debhelper
06:01-!-phdeswer [~philippe@84-231-112-131.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #debian
06:01-!-chron [~chron@shell.smashthestack.org] has joined #debian
06:02-!-mansi [~mansi@117.196.144.63] has joined #debian
06:02-!-PadawanLearner [~jc@bl18-85-18.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #debian
06:02<chron>how can i install a certain template like on net install cd (like workstation, server, etc.) using something like debootstrap?
06:02-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
06:03-!-lofyer [~lofyer@122.159.252.139] has quit [Quit: 离开]
06:04-!-fl0w [~fl0w@APuteaux-552-1-22-237.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
06:05-!-costas [~costas@ppp089210012129.dsl.hol.gr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:08-!-thierry [~thierry@41.208.153.10] has joined #debian
06:09-!-mansi [~mansi@117.196.144.63] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
06:10-!-mansi [~mansi@117.196.144.63] has joined #debian
06:10-!-rjsalts [~rjsalts@spectralmud.org] has joined #debian
06:10<mansi>hey friends...i compiled one program (dansguardian) and i donno how to run it during bootup
06:11-!-th [~Administr@182.7.116.73] has joined #debian
06:11<mansi>what is the procedure to run it during booup
06:11<petemc>debian packages of things like that come with an init script
06:11<mansi>it can be manually run by the simple command "dansguardian" manually after reboot
06:11<jm_>mansi: why? debian packages dansguardian
06:11<mansi>this is a compied one.....we have modified the code
06:11<mansi>this is a custom installation
06:12<jm_>take a debian package, make the changes, build the deb
06:12<mansi>we modified debian source pakcage
06:12<mansi>is there no simple wa y to start it automatically at runlevel 3?
06:12<jm_>debian package comes with /etc/init.d/dansguardian
06:12-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
06:13<mansi>this is compile and has path at /usr/local/etc/dansguardian
06:13<jm_>you are doing it incorrectly - get the debian source package, make modifications, build the .deb ...
06:14<mansi>other than building a .deb package, isn't it possible run a script at a particular runlevel?
06:14-!-mramige_ [~mramige@h235.225.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
06:15<nevyn>yes it is but if you don't know how already rebuilding the deb would seem the easier path.
06:15<jm_>sure is, use dansguardian package's init script to start with and man update-rc.d
06:15<petemc>mramige_: of course, debian uses normal sys v start up
06:15<cannesahs>not too recommended, but write your own LSB compliant /etc/init.d/script and install it
06:15<petemc>damn
06:15-!-fiku [~wiktor@195.94.215.34] has joined #debian
06:16<petemc>mansi: zless /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz
06:17<cannesahs>(btw why runlevel 3?)
06:17<mansi>ohhkay friends...thanks a lot..i think i would put the scipt in /etc/init.d and try update-rc.d command
06:18<mansi>hope that will work sint it?
06:18<cannesahs>I suggest 2
06:18<mansi>cannesahs: this is a server install without gui....ohhkay.....i will do it on runelevel 2
06:18<mansi>i got cinfused with the levels in redhat
06:19-!-jackSmith [~caleb@142.167.129.104] has joined #debian
06:19<mansi>i thnk in redhat, full multiuser network wihtour gui is runlevel 3 isnt it?
06:19-!-cjac_ [~cjac@adsl-207-32-175-127.rockisland.net] has joined #debian
06:19<jm_>debian uses the same runlevel even if DM is started
06:20-!-cjac [~cjac@adsl-207-32-175-127.rockisland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:20-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:20<mansi>ohhkay
06:20<cannesahs>http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch03.en.html#_stage_4_the_normal_debian_system
06:21-!-mode/#debian [+l 468] by debhelper
06:21<maxb>Hello. Does anyone have any guidance on choosing between approx and apt-cacher-ng to offer?
06:21-!-rjsalts [~rjsalts@spectralmud.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:21-!-nutterpc [~nutterpc@120.153.140.138] has joined #debian
06:21<mansi>cannesahs: thanks a lot :) let me study that :)
06:22-!-yanli [~YanLi@helpconfig.org] has joined #debian
06:22<mansi>petemc: thanks for that README info
06:22<mansi>:)
06:22<cannesahs>mansi: that is a bit outdated, but still quite ok
06:22<mansi>ohhkay..let me try :)
06:23<petemc>mansi: the advice jm_ gave you about rebuilding debian source is the recommended method
06:23<mansi>petemc: ohhkay...but isnn't it complicated?
06:24<mansi>petemc: i mean i haven't tried that yet
06:24<mansi>me have some urgent requirements now
06:24<mansi>less time
06:24<cannesahs>I recommend that method too
06:24<petemc>!tell mansi about package recompile
06:25-!-Cozminsky [~rjsalts@spectralmud.org] has joined #debian
06:25<mansi>ohkkay......thats cool.......seems quite straight forward :)
06:25-!-phdeswer [~philippe@84-231-112-131.elisa-mobile.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:26-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
06:26-!-mercutio22 [~mercutio2@189.38.172.205] has joined #debian
06:27-!-MibMob [dennis@euve19389.server4you.net] has left #debian []
06:27<nevyn>there was a reaons we suggested it
06:27-!-chris34g3 [~chris3@141.45.206.18] has joined #debian
06:27-!-chris34g3 [~chris3@141.45.206.18] has quit []
06:27<mansi>friends one doubt....by this method is it possible to re-name a customized package? (of course released in GPL)
06:28<jm_>it's better to change the version to reflect the change
06:28-!-th [~Administr@182.7.116.73] has quit [Quit: .]
06:28<mansi>i mean, i need to give clients the modified sourve with a new name
06:28<mansi>i mean some custom name reflecting our company
06:28<mansi>of course code will be in gpl
06:29-!-rovanion_ [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
06:29-!-siggi [~siggi@194-144-36-239.du.xdsl.is] has joined #debian
06:30-!-siggi [~siggi@194-144-36-239.du.xdsl.is] has quit []
06:30-!-eof_ is now known as eof
06:30<rovanion_>Is there any folder that contains shell files run after login or is there any shell file that is run at login in which I can put some fancy scripts of my own?
06:31<jm_>rovanion_: man page for your shell will tell you
06:32-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@110.77.242.181] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:32<rovanion_>jm_: I meant for a kde session, I didn't say that did I?
06:33-!-mansi [~mansi@117.196.144.63] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
06:33-!-PnvP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:33<jm_>rovanion_: kde has some startup stuff, doesn't it?
06:34-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:35-!-mosno [~mosno@c114-77-11-48.brasd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #debian
06:35<mercutio22>I would like to find out a route from my pc to another machine on the internet. I only get * * * outputed by traceroute. Why? Do I need to specify something else? I am only doing "traceroute <IP destinarion>".
06:36<petemc>that should be all you do
06:36<jm_>mercutio22: perhaps your firewall is blocking it, or someone else's etc.
06:36-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:37-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has joined #debian
06:38-!-massmc [~massmc@r220-101-148-75.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:40-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.6.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:41-!-hardwalker [~hardwalke@114-33-201-92.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:41-!-chihchun [~chihchun@n201.enc.hlc.edu.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:42-!-rovanion_ [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:43-!-jackSmith [~caleb@142.167.129.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:44<mercutio22>jm_: I don't recall setting up a firewall. Does debian blocks icmp packets by default?
06:44<jm_>mercutio22: no
06:45-!-PnvP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has joined #debian
06:46<mercutio22>jm_: weird. I don't know then. I don't even get the hop to my router and I have no rules set on iptables
06:47-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
06:49-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.70.74] has joined #debian
06:49<Cozminsky>Anyone know why rpc.idmapd would not be handling uid -> name conversions on nfs4 client?
06:52-!-f8l [~f8l@87-205-71-245.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4]
06:52-!-diederik [~diederik@dhcp-077-248-188-117.chello.nl] has joined #debian
06:53<cannesahs>is update-rc.d obsolete when using depency based inits? or is it now prefered frontend for insserv insted of using insserv directly?
06:53-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:53-!-PnvP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:55-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:55-!-dserban [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
06:56-!-XeonBloomfield [~xeon@user118-095.satfilm.net.pl] has joined #debian
06:57-!-skyegg_away is now known as skyegg_
07:00-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 462] by debhelper
07:01-!-daemonkeeper [~Arno@g229058134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
07:02-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:03-!-antares [~antares@mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr] has joined #debian
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: buh bye!]
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:08-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has joined #debian
07:08-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:17-!-VwClub [~VwClub@ppp046176182029.dsl.hol.gr] has joined #debian
07:18-!-VwClub [~VwClub@ppp046176182029.dsl.hol.gr] has quit []
07:18-!-infinite [~infinite@117.192.195.185] has joined #debian
07:19-!-infinite is now known as Guest699
07:20<Guest699>Hi There: I have a question
07:20<Guest699>If I install Debian on an External USB HD will the OS load?
07:21<jm_>depends
07:21-!-momina [~momina@15.211.153.74] has joined #debian
07:21-!-momina [~momina@15.211.153.74] has quit []
07:22<Guest699>What does it depend on?
07:22-!-alidhaey [~alidhaey@36.zone-217.12.16.juntadeandalucia.es] has joined #debian
07:22<jm_>to start with - does your computer support booting from USB?
07:23<Guest699>My computer supports from USB
07:23<Guest699>booting
07:23<jm_>sounds good then
07:24<Guest699>I have installed Win 7 and Debian on First HD, and Second USB HD I have Kanotix
07:24<Guest699>and FreeBSD
07:24-!-massmc [~massmc@r220-101-148-75.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #debian
07:25<Guest699>GRUB 2 entry is right for Kanotix, It reads sda, and cdrom but stops at reading sdb
07:26-!-alidhaey [~alidhaey@36.zone-217.12.16.juntadeandalucia.es] has quit []
07:27-!-khoubeib [~khoubeib@197.31.201.26] has joined #debian
07:27-!-antares [~antares@mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
07:29<Guest699>I will get back after trying something
07:29-!-Guest699 [~infinite@117.192.195.185] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
07:30-!-AWei [~mplah@adsl-40.91.140.90.tellas.gr] has joined #debian
07:30-!-charlvn [~charlvn@41.0.48.8] has joined #debian
07:31-!-mode/#debian [+l 468] by debhelper
07:31-!-Cozminsky [~rjsalts@spectralmud.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:33-!-st-16052 [~st-16052@a89-154-147-132.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian
07:33-!-gezgin [~gezgin@85.107.44.174] has quit [Quit: gezgin]
07:34-!-st-16052 [~st-16052@a89-154-147-132.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit []
07:36-!-lanthan [~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
07:37-!-jrib [~jrib@pool-96-237-68-170.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #debian
07:39-!-babilen [~babilen@dhcp-91-051.inf.ed.ac.uk] has joined #debian
07:39-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@175.180.88.102] has joined #debian
07:44-!-Caroll [~caroll@200.14.32.75] has joined #debian
07:49-!-st-16539 [~st-16539@a89-154-147-132.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian
07:50-!-duxklr [~duxklr@ppp-70-249-216-133.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #debian
07:51-!-PnvP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has joined #debian
07:51-!-st-16539 [~st-16539@a89-154-147-132.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit []
07:54-!-jespada [~jespada@134.134.139.70] has joined #debian
07:55-!-christopher [~christoph@64-126-113-208.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
07:55-!-duxklr [~duxklr@ppp-70-249-216-133.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit []
07:57-!-christopher [~christoph@64-126-113-208.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit []
07:58-!-cthuluh [foobar@2001:470:1f13:2c9::1] has joined #debian
07:59-!-zeroXten [~zeroXten@0x10.co.uk] has joined #debian
07:59-!-zeroXten [~zeroXten@0x10.co.uk] has quit []
07:59-!-KNUBBIG [KNUBBIG@dslb-084-056-214-197.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit []
08:01-!-zeroXten [~zeroXten@0x10.co.uk] has joined #debian
08:02-!-micc [~ubuntu@178-191-165-231.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:03-!-cthuluh_ [foobar@79.20.93-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #debian
08:06-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:07-!-smjn [~sami@hoasb-ff0cdd00-189.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #debian
08:09-!-TITS01 [TIBS01@92.7.166.148] has joined #debian
08:10-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.70.74] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
08:11-!-mode/#debian [+l 474] by debhelper
08:11-!-micc [~ubuntu@178-190-233-10.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
08:12-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
08:12-!-massmc [~massmc@r220-101-148-75.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:14-!-anbe [~andreas@x-wh-schopi-trans.net.uni-frankfurt.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:14-!-TIBS01 [~ti@genkt-049-010.t-mobile.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:15-!-L0rD` [~anon@09GAAC81O.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: L0rD`]
08:15-!-ctmjr [~chuck@pool-71-179-65-61.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #debian
08:16-!-ctmjr [~chuck@pool-71-179-65-61.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has quit []
08:17-!-timekiller [~TnT@09GAAC72S.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: La vengeance est la forme la plus sûre de la justice.]
08:19-!-taffit [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has joined #debian
08:19-!-hemanth [~hemanth@202.122.16.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:19-!-skyegg_ is now known as skyegg
08:21-!-NoxDaFox [~nox@93-39-44-253.ip74.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:24-!-zeroedout [~quassel@S01060080c6fcfaab.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
08:26-!-ticha [~charles@lib59-6-88-165-156-4.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
08:28-!-cthuluh [foobar@2001:470:1f13:2c9::1] has quit [Quit: leaving]
08:28-!-cthuluh_ [foobar@79.20.93-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
08:28-!-cthuluh [foobar@2001:470:1f13:2c9::1] has joined #debian
08:29-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A90FD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
08:33-!-XeonBloomfield [~xeon@user118-095.satfilm.net.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:34-!-mramige_ [~mramige@h235.225.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:38-!-george_ [~george@66.11.174.71] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:39-!-slsimic [~athlon@151-172-222-85.adsl.verat.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:40-!-ticha [~charles@lib59-6-88-165-156-4.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:41-!-mode/#debian [+l 467] by debhelper
08:41-!-chihchun [~chihchun@n201.enc.hlc.edu.tw] has joined #debian
08:42-!-rovanion [~rovanion@193.180.153.197] has joined #debian
08:42-!-q66 [~quaker66@213.191.105.214] has joined #debian
08:43-!-cjuner [~cjuner@frnk-590d09da.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
08:45-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@p54AA722B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
08:46-!-rpetre [~petre@91.220.121.250] has joined #debian
08:46-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:46-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has joined #debian
08:47-!-jm_ [flier@icc.mindwipe.org] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting]
08:47-!-Mixxit [~Mixxit@cpc2-brig5-0-0-cust258.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
08:48-!-chonger [~infidel@c229176.net202179.cablenet.ne.jp] has joined #debian
08:49<chonger>hi. total debian newb here (but not linux). I'm fussing with debian 6.0.1 here, trying to *uninstall* all of the office packages, etc.
08:49-!-PnvP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:49<chonger>I apt-get remove'd openoffice.org, and it forced me to install libreoffice.
08:49<Mixxit>lol
08:49<chonger>I let it, now I'm trying to uninstall both OOo and libreoffice, and it's trying to force me to install abiword
08:49<chonger>wtf? halp :~(
08:49<Mixxit>if you remove libreoffice it installed microsoft works
08:50<chonger>I'm half-expecting that.
08:50<nevyn>hrm abiword is neat.
08:50<chonger>I think I chose some sort of overarching Desktop config during install, and it's doing its darndest to give me an office program, *any* office program, but I really just need dev tools.
08:51-!-mode/#debian [+l 473] by debhelper
08:52<petemc>chonger: it installs recommends by default, you can disable that
08:53<chonger>ah, ok. --no-install-recommends?
08:54<chonger>and out of curiosity, how do I turn that off systemwide? I know what packages I want and don't want (as long as it doesn't get me into dependency hell)
08:54<petemc>you would have to include that every time you run apt-get, you can disable permanently in apt.conf
08:54-!-charlvn [~charlvn@41.0.48.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:55<babilen>!apt recommends
08:55<dpkg>APT installs recommended packages by default since Lenny. To disable once, "aptitude -R install packagename" or "apt-get --no-install-recommends install packagename". To disable permanently, echo "APT::Install-Recommends no;" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/no-recommends. By not installing "recommended" packages, you will miss the standard functionality they provide. Squeeze's <D-I> installs recommended packages by default. See <why recommends>
08:55<babilen>!why recommends
08:55<dpkg>From lenny onwards, apt-get and aptitude both install "Recommended" packages by default. From <policy> section 7.2, Recommends, "declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations." You're not that unusual, trust us. By not installing "recommended" packages you will be missing functionality.
08:56<babilen>chonger: I would rather expect that you installed a large metapackage such as Gnome that pulls in openoffice. I would recommend to remove the metapackages you don't want, rather than explicitly disabling the installation of recommended packages.
08:57-!-SynrG [~synrg@blk-212-64-178.eastlink.ca] has quit [Quit: wop]
08:57-!-SynrG [~synrg@blk-212-64-178.eastlink.ca] has joined #debian
08:58-!-alephnull [~alok@122.172.10.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:58<chonger>probably. I'm using gnome, since I just wanted to mirror my office system, but at home I just need dev utils
08:58-!-PadawanLearner [~jc@bl18-85-18.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:58<babilen>chonger: "dpkg -l gnome|tail -n1" gives you what?
08:59<chonger>Gnome Desktop Environment, with extra components
08:59<chonger>ii gnome 1:2.30+7 before that (sorry, it's isolated, have to retype)
09:00-!-krayn [~Adium@93-45-91-38.ip101.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:00-!-edog [~edog@46.56.243.33] has joined #debian
09:01-!-krayn [~Adium@93-45-91-38.ip101.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
09:01<babilen>chonger: So you have the "gnome" metapackage installed. Metapackages are packages that don't contain anything themselves, but merely declare dependencies on other packages. The "gnome" metapackage is the largest of the gnome related metapackages and you might want to remove it.
09:01<babilen>!install gnome
09:01<dpkg>To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, 'gnome-desktop-environment' for GNOME as defined by upstream, 'gnome-core' for a bit less and 'gnome-session' for the basic components actually needed to run a GNOME session. You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome
09:02<babilen>chonger: If you look above ^^^ there are other/smaller metapackages available. I would install one of those (aptitude install gnome-session) and run "aptitude remove gnome" -- That will most likely remove software you actually want to keep. You can mark these as intentionally (i.e. not-automatically) installed by running "aptitude unmarkauto PKG1…PKGN"
09:03-!-charlvn [~charlvn@41.0.48.8] has joined #debian
09:03<babilen>chonger: Let me know if you need further help with that. :)
09:03<chonger>ok, so if I install, say, gnome-core, then remove gnome, it will sort of "downgrade" me to the lesser requirements list?
09:04-!-broucaries [~bastien@194.199.171.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:04<babilen>chonger: It will remove all automatically installed packages that were only installed to satisfy a dependency of the "gnome" metapackage
09:04<chonger>(I looked at the page you linked, it didn't mention what to do after one has already taken the plunge :)
09:04<chonger>ok, I'll do that. thank you very much, kind sir/madam.
09:05-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.18.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:05-!-dserban [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
09:05-!-fl0w [~fl0w@APuteaux-552-1-22-237.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
09:05<babilen>chonger: You are welcome -- This happens if you install the "Desktop" task during the installation. Ah, you will almost definitely also want to run "aptitude unmarkauto gdm3" to keep your login manager.
09:06<chonger>yeah, I didn't see an 'admin' or 'developer' type of install, it seemed to be mostly geared to end-users :\
09:06<chonger>so, c'est la vie. live and learn. cheers! :)
09:06-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
09:06<babilen>chonger: I typically just install the "Standard" task (and "Laptop" if applicable) and take it from there.
09:08<chonger>ah, that's what I was probably looking for. thanks
09:08<chonger>it's going now, thanks again.
09:08-!-chonger [~infidel@c229176.net202179.cablenet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: !]
09:09-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice1n1.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:11-!-mode/#debian [+l 465] by debhelper
09:12-!-jhutchins_lt [~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:13-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.12.71] has joined #debian
09:14-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:14-!-anbe [~andreas@calzone.ae.cs.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #debian
09:15-!-ticha [~charles@free.router3.ipv4.networkn.net] has joined #debian
09:16-!-khoubeib [~khoubeib@197.31.201.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:18-!-pecenipicek [~pecenipic@cpe-109-60-87-187.zg3.cable.xnet.hr] has joined #debian
09:20-!-OutOfLine [~user@82-220-75-153.dslplus.solnet.ch] has joined #debian
09:20-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
09:21-!-abcd82 [~abcd@109.110.18.181] has joined #debian
09:21-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
09:23-!-phoenix [~phoenix@axi145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:23-!-afurlan [~afurlan@200-180-90-104.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #debian
09:26-!-lelamal [~quassel@host198-105-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:26<OutOfLine>i need help with a fresh squeeze installation: the system does not find the root device and leaves me in a shell (busybox). lenny worked well on same hardware.
09:26-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has joined #debian
09:28<OutOfLine>if i copy lenny kernel and initrd over to the system and 'edit' grub2 to use them, the system does boot, but not with squeeze kernel and initrd
09:28<OutOfLine>any suggestions what to try next very welcome
09:28-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:29-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
09:29-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has joined #debian
09:29-!-broucaries1 [~bastien@194.199.171.118] has joined #debian
09:30-!-lelamal [~quassel@host198-105-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
09:30-!-lofyer [~lofyer@122.159.252.139] has joined #debian
09:31-!-mode/#debian [+l 474] by debhelper
09:31-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:31-!-Se-bash [~seba@host64.190-139-255.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
09:32-!-freex [~user@212-183-50-204.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:32-!-rovanion [~rovanion@193.180.153.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:34-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.13.217] has joined #debian
09:34-!-duxklr [~duxklr@wufis-pat8.nts.wustl.edu] has joined #debian
09:34-!-khoubeib [~khoubeib@197.31.208.73] has joined #debian
09:35-!-alyosha [~alyosha@89-212-50-29.static.t-2.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:35-!-ticha [~charles@free.router3.ipv4.networkn.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:37<MrFrood>OutOfLine: can't really help but I also have had issues with the current Squeeze kernel, I'm using the liquorix kernel and hoping that the squeeze kernel is fixed soon, another user with similar issues used the sid kenel
09:37-!-afurlan [~afurlan@200-180-90-104.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:37-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
09:38-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@175.180.88.102] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
09:39-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@175.180.88.102] has joined #debian
09:40<OutOfLine>it's the first time i see problems with the squeeze kernel
09:41<pecenipicek>egads... what are the things i need to install to be able to compile things succesfully?
09:41<MrFrood>first time I've had an issue with a Debian kernel
09:41-!-freex [~user@212-183-54-103.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
09:41<MrFrood>pecenipicek: aptitude install build-deps
09:41<pecenipicek>running a ./configure for asterisk spits out these two lines and dies. checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
09:41<pecenipicek>checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
09:41<pecenipicek>roger.
09:42<OutOfLine>i think somehow my squeeze installation does miss modules like ide_disk
09:42<pecenipicek>MrFrood: wouldnt that be build-essentials?
09:42<MrFrood>pecenipicek: sorry
09:42<MrFrood>yes
09:42<pecenipicek>no worries :)
09:42<pecenipicek>thanks.
09:42<pecenipicek>i knew i forgot something basic.
09:42<MrFrood>then aptitude build-deps package name
09:43<pecenipicek>mm. thanks :)
09:43-!-edog [~edog@46.56.243.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:43-!-jeff_hann [~arares@89.47.83.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:43-!-lofyer [~lofyer@122.159.252.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:45-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@102.246.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:46<pecenipicek>and for kernel recompiling, i would need linux-headers-<version i'm using> and linux-source-2.6.32, right?
09:46-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.13.217] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:46-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h146n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #debian
09:48-!-Se-bash [~seba@host64.190-139-255.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:48-!-mosno [~mosno@c114-77-11-48.brasd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:49-!-lelamal [~quassel@host198-105-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:50-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
09:51-!-mode/#debian [+l 466] by debhelper
09:51-!-Unmensch [~steven@p4FCDFA5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
09:52-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A90FD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
09:52-!-Unmensch [~steven@p4FCDFA5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
09:52-!-marfx000 [~marfx000@cobble.bn.by] has joined #debian
09:56-!-lelamal [~quassel@host198-105-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
09:56-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A90FD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
09:56-!-mramige [~mramige@h235.225.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
10:00-!-wbin [~wbin@119.131.175.90] has joined #debian
10:01<wbin>anyone is there?
10:01-!-vook [~vook@ip174-65-98-5.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
10:01-!-gezgin [~gezgin@85.107.44.174] has joined #debian
10:02<babilen>wbin: you are alone among 457 others -- Can we help you with something?
10:02-!-otypoks_ [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:03-!-otypoks_ [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has joined #debian
10:03<wbin>:p.I has a server with lamp.but now there is some rootkit on it.what should i do?
10:03-!-rjcks [~richard@28IAAATEF.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
10:04-!-PaulP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has joined #debian
10:04-!-otypoks_ is now known as otypoks
10:05-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
10:05<pecenipicek>how do i get the kernel sources for the currently installed kernel? (2.6.32-5-686)
10:06<wbin>see the site.www.kernel.org/public
10:06<wbin>or /pub
10:06<pecenipicek>debian doesnt package its sources into something more easily gettable?
10:06<babilen>wbin: You probably want to create an image of you data and reinstall the system. It would be good to determine how the attacker got access to your system. A bit of that is explaines in the "Securing Debian" manual, but you could also google for "incident response"
10:06-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:07<babilen>pecenipicek: You can just install linux-source-2.6 or a more specific package
10:07<babilen>pecenipicek: run "aptitude search
10:07<babilen>pecenipicek: run "aptitude search ~n^linux-source" to see applicable packages
10:08<pecenipicek>k
10:09<babilen>pecenipicek: I would recommend to install linux-source-2.6 though (if you have the corresponding "linux-image-2.6" package installed)
10:09<pecenipicek>ok, so i got those
10:10<pecenipicek>but what i'm trying to compile still complains about missing sources
10:10-!-alex_ [~alex@dhcp-023103.wlan.ntnu.no] has joined #debian
10:11-!-mode/#debian [+l 473] by debhelper
10:11-!-ticha [~charles@free.router2.ipv4.networkn.net] has joined #debian
10:11<babilen>pecenipicek: I gave you the answer to your question. You might want to consider telling us what you are *actually* trying to do. I would guess that you just need to install the kernel headers -- But what is your ultimate goal?
10:12<pecenipicek>to compile and install Asterisk 1.8.3.2 from sources with dahdi 2.4.1
10:12-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
10:13-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.81.53] has joined #debian
10:13-!-fladi [~fladische@2001:470:1f0b:11df:22:19ff:fe1c:6b47] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:13<pecenipicek>whats in the repos is asterisk 1.6.2.9, which is unfortunately not what i need.
10:14<sney>,versions asterisk
10:14<judd>Package asterisk on i386 -- lenny: 1:1.4.21.2~dfsg-3+lenny1; lenny-security: 1:1.4.21.2~dfsg-3+lenny2; lenny-backports: 1:1.6.2.9-1~bpo50+3; sid: 1:1.6.2.9-2+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:1.6.2.9-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1:1.6.2.9-2+squeeze1; wheezy: 1:1.6.2.9-2+squeeze1
10:14<babilen>pecenipicek: I would try to install the kernel headers -- aptitude search ~n^linux-headers
10:14<pecenipicek>but yeah, i think its the kernel headers as well.
10:14<pecenipicek>installing them right now :)
10:15<sney>!uupdate
10:15<dpkg>uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz Ask me about <package recompile>
10:15<pecenipicek>yeah, that was it.
10:15<pecenipicek>i'll probably need to recompile the kernel as well.
10:15<wbin>install asterisk needed to recompile the kernel?
10:16<pecenipicek>no. not neccesarily.
10:17-!-thiago [~thiago@150.165.63.86] has joined #debian
10:17-!-thiago [~thiago@150.165.63.86] has quit []
10:18<hemanth>anyone on 2.6.38.2, not able to configure, ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics and ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller. Sound was working fine, now all of a sudden no sound
10:18-!-fiku [~wiktor@195.94.215.34] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
10:19<pecenipicek>im talking about recompiling to set the kernel timer interrupt frequency to 1000Hz, instead of the usual 250Hz
10:20<hemanth>sound back, had to change it in the preference
10:20-!-xNetoXMartinsx [~neto@189.71.57.39] has joined #debian
10:21-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:21<wbin>my coputer works well.the ati4300 can't open 3d
10:25<cmot_>Arrgh.
10:25-!-ant_ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice1n1.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:25<cmot_>Why does find not have an "-older" option?
10:25<cmot_>"! -newer" is NOT the same
10:26-!-geekliketodd [~todd@76.84.110.78] has joined #debian
10:26<rpetre>cmot_: how so?
10:26-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
10:27<hemanth>http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Squeeze wont work of ATI Redon 3200 HD??
10:27<cmot_>rpetre: ! -newer means "older or equal"
10:27<cmot_>since I only have one second resolution and two files have the same timestamp here, ! -newer deletes exactly one critical file that -older wouldn't delete
10:28<rpetre>oh
10:28<rpetre>try ! -newerct and a timestamp a second older
10:29<wbin>thanks very much....
10:29<cmot_>rpetre: Hmm. Ok, probably I should know this, but how do I first get the timestamp of the file I'm looking at originally?
10:29*cmot_ needs to finally lear how to do arithmetics in bash, as well
10:30<cmot_>ah, stat should do it, I guess
10:30<rpetre>yes
10:30<vook>!bc
10:30<dpkg>[bc] according to the man page, an arbitrary precision calculator, or <businesscard>
10:30<cmot_>vook: from a bash script?
10:30<cmot_>I think [[ $time - 1 ]] or something should do it
10:30<babilen>wbin: Are you using the radeon or fglrx driver?
10:31<cmot_>bash has arithmetics...
10:31<cmot_>I just never can remember what the exact syntax is
10:31-!-GindeK [~xxx@rsb.ists.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:32-!-ant_ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
10:32-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@102.246.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
10:33-!-sabima [~sabima@p5DC49DF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
10:34-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
10:35<cmot_>let t="(( `stat -c %Z $BACKUPFILE` - 1 ))"
10:35<cmot_>then find -newerct
10:35<cmot_>rpetre: thanks for this idea
10:36<rpetre>you're welcome
10:37<babilen>!tell wbin about radeon
10:37<babilen>wbin: You want to make sure that you have the firmware and libgl1-mesa-dri installed
10:37<pecenipicek>compile compile compile you busybee, compile...
10:38<cmot_>rpetre: Arrgh! Except that -newerct doesn't take unix seconds but expects a formatted timestamp :-/
10:38-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:39<wbin>ok,i trying.
10:40<cmot_>ah, prepend "@"
10:40-!-efrain851 [~efrain851@host185002.globalgate.com.ar] has joined #debian
10:41-!-xbytemx [~xbytemx@189.221.37.87.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
10:41-!-sabima [~sabima@p5DC49DF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:41-!-diederik [~diederik@dhcp-077-248-188-117.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:41-!-efrain851 [~efrain851@host185002.globalgate.com.ar] has left #debian []
10:41-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
10:42<vook>bc in a bash script - http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-August/015900.html
10:42-!-wbin [~wbin@119.131.175.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:43-!-broucaries1 [~bastien@194.199.171.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:44-!-charlvn [~charlvn@41.0.48.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
10:44<pecenipicek>how do i check what is defined to run at boot and stuff?
10:44<pecenipicek>i'm familiar with gentoo's rc-update stuff, but not with debians way.
10:46-!-cahoot [~radix@c83-252-75-32.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #debian
10:46-!-noCloudsDotOrg [~javier@190.78.63.78] has joined #debian
10:46-!-noCloudsDotOrg [~javier@190.78.63.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:47<pecenipicek>nvm. rcconf will do fine
10:48-!-broucaries1 [~bastien@194.199.171.118] has joined #debian
10:49-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.94.169] has joined #debian
10:50-!-philsf [~philsf@procc1-250.procc.fiocruz.br] has joined #debian
10:53<vook>pecenipicek: /etc/rcS.d and /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc3.d (depending)
10:55-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:55-!-xNetoXMartinsx [~neto@189.71.57.39] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:56-!-tartax [~tartax@41.130.62.227] has joined #debian
10:58-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:58-!-liverwurst [~wurst@p508C2248.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:59<tartax>hey, how can i write a command to the commandline without executing it? (from a script)
10:59<vook>!echo
10:59<dpkg>ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...cho...ho...o.......
10:59<vook>echo
10:59-!-marfx000 [~marfx000@cobble.bn.by] has quit [Quit: õÈÏÖÕ Ñ ÏÔ ×ÁÓ (xchat 2.4.5 ÉÌÉ ÓÔÁÒÛÅ)]
11:00<tartax>that's just output right?
11:01-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.29.134] has joined #debian
11:01<tartax>i want to user to hit enter to execute the command
11:01<vook>pause ?
11:01-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.29.134] has quit []
11:02<tartax>but i also want to give him the opportunity to change the command before pressing enter
11:02<tartax>:)
11:02<mutante>tartax: read -p
11:02-!-alyosha [~alyosha@89-212-50-29.static.t-2.net] has joined #debian
11:02<vook>read, doh
11:02-!-OutOfLine [~user@82-220-75-153.dslplus.solnet.ch] has left #debian [ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
11:03-!-vook [~vook@ip174-65-98-5.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #debian []
11:03-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
11:03<babilen>tartax: I would also ask this in the channel of whatever scripting language you are using.
11:04<mutante>eh tartax: read foo; echo $foo
11:04<chron>how do you normally fetch packages offline with apt?
11:04<tartax>oh, sorry, im talking about bash. ill try it there
11:04<tartax>but thanks a lot
11:05-!-ronak [~ronak@85.110.99.27] has joined #debian
11:05-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:05<ronak>debian türkiye
11:06<ronak>veya debian türkçe kanalının adresini varirmisiniz
11:06<sney>!turkey
11:06<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, turkey is #debian.tr, or trke yardm iin #debian.tr
11:06<ronak>tabi türkçe bilen arkadaş varsa:))
11:06<ronak>dpkg:Thank you
11:06<dpkg>ronak: de rien
11:07-!-MuzerAway is now known as Muzer
11:07-!-AWei [~mplah@adsl-40.91.140.90.tellas.gr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:09-!-ua [~ua@dhcp-bro-re117.univ-paris1.fr] has joined #debian
11:09-!-ryanc [~ryanc@c-24-4-33-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:09-!-ryanc [~ryanc@c-24-4-33-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
11:10-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has joined #debian
11:10-!-amarprasovic [~aprasovic@ppp-93-104-9-126.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
11:10-!-amarprasovic [~aprasovic@ppp-93-104-9-126.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has left #debian []
11:12-!-babilen [~babilen@dhcp-91-051.inf.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving]
11:14-!-ronak [~ronak@85.110.99.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:14-!-Jussi [~jussi@0132700296.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #debian
11:16-!-child [~child@189-015-229-013.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined #debian
11:16-!-calopsfr [~calopsfr@ivr94-6-82-230-254-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
11:16-!-calopsfr [~calopsfr@ivr94-6-82-230-254-121.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
11:18-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:19-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
11:20-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has joined #debian
11:20-!-ivan [~ivan@178.187.49.203] has joined #debian
11:20-!-ivan [~ivan@178.187.49.203] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:21-!-ssmith is now known as Guest729
11:21-!-ticha [~charles@free.router2.ipv4.networkn.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:21-!-brickz [~brickz@p5B3CD684.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
11:22-!-paulpiscuc [~paul@86.55.21.46] has joined #debian
11:22-!-mmgc84 [~mmgc84@dynamic90-114.MAN-B2-3.cablenet.com.ni] has joined #debian
11:22-!-sigs [~phil@ip98-165-224-84.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
11:24-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
11:26<hemanth>fglrxinfo says
11:26<hemanth>display: :0.0 screen: 0
11:26<hemanth>but i notice window border when i minimize and maximize
11:26-!-jhutchins_lt [~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
11:28-!-muammar [~muammar@193.48.172.21] has joined #debian
11:29-!-dutchfish [~wil@541CF61E.cm-5-5d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
11:30-!-paulpiscuc [~paul@86.55.21.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:32-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:33-!-bojana [~bojana@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined #debian
11:34-!-Emmanuel_Chanel [emmanuel@L056194.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:35-!-bojana [~bojana@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:36-!-_neila_ [~jacek@herbi.net.pl] has joined #debian
11:36-!-babilen [~babilen@87-194-152-68.bethere.co.uk] has joined #debian
11:37-!-_neila_ [~jacek@herbi.net.pl] has quit []
11:39-!-paulpiscuc [~paul@193.33.200.14] has joined #debian
11:39-!-paulpiscuc [~paul@193.33.200.14] has left #debian []
11:41-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
11:43-!-guess75 [~joe@net-93-67-206-146.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #debian
11:44-!-brickz [~brickz@p5B3CD684.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
11:45-!-xqvp43 [~xqvp43@115.195.141.135] has joined #debian
11:49-!-lostinfog [~is001652@tch-66-128-217-50.thechildrenshospital.org] has joined #debian
11:49-!-bojana [~bojana@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined #debian
11:49-!-Emmanuel_Chanel [emmanuel@L056194.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has joined #debian
11:51-!-mode/#debian [+l 482] by debhelper
11:53-!-dserban [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
11:56-!-sako [~sako@72.37.142.124] has joined #debian
11:57-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
11:58-!-davyg [~davyg@dau94-9-88-178-191-172.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
11:58-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
11:59-!-berto [~berto@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: bye]
12:01-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:03-!-jordan___ [~jordan@1GLAAAQTH.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:04-!-broucaries1 [~bastien@194.199.171.118] has left #debian []
12:04-!-guess75 [~joe@net-93-67-206-146.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
12:05-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
12:05-!-dserban [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:05-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
12:05-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:06-!-guess75 [~joe@net-93-67-206-146.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #debian
12:09-!-i10neorg [~one@208.65.88.192] has joined #debian
12:09-!-micc [~ubuntu@178-190-233-10.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:09-!-sigs [~phil@ip98-165-224-84.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:09-!-aussa [~aussa@190.255.63.140] has joined #debian
12:10-!-guess75 [~joe@net-93-67-206-146.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit []
12:10<aussa>does anyone know how compatible are asus laptops with debian?
12:10-!-jordan___ [~jordan@1GLAAAQTH.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:10<jhutchins_lt>aussa: Depends on the model, but "pretty good" in general.
12:11<jhutchins_lt>aussa: Probably a good idea to search the web and get an idea how well supported a specific model is in linux. There's a web site that collects installation reports, but it's far from comprehensive.
12:11-!-krayn [~Adium@93-45-91-38.ip101.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
12:12<aussa>ASUS N53J, i'm worry about the video card and audio drivers
12:12<babilen>aussa: google something like "linux on laptops" -- If you are looking for a well supported and good laptop I would recommend a Thinkpad
12:12<aussa>i've done that
12:12-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:12<aussa>i found a large list, but mine is not in there
12:13<jhutchins_lt>aussa: Audio drivers are pretty well covered right now - video is always a crapshoot.
12:13-!-hoivn [~hoivn@1.55.115.110] has joined #debian
12:13<aussa>it is a nvidia
12:13<jhutchins_lt>asus does tend to do smaller runs of any given configuration.
12:13<babilen>aussa: So you actually bought that laptop already?
12:13<hoivn>hi
12:13<jhutchins_lt>!nvidia
12:13<dpkg>Install either <nouveau> (no 3D support) or the appropriate proprietary driver package for your card. For GeForce 6xxx through to some GeForce 400 series, ask me about <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>; for older series, ask about <nvidia dkms-173xx> <nvidia dkms-96xx>. For oldstable, see <nvidia lenny>. nvidia.com packages are _not_ supported in #debian, please join #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
12:13<hoivn>i have a problem
12:13<babilen>hoivn: We can't help you if you don't tell us what it is :)
12:14<aussa>yeah, i have it already
12:14<hoivn>i can't enable fingerprint on dell vostro 3400
12:14<hoivn>:D
12:14-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:15<hoivn>can you help me to enable fingerprint
12:15<babilen>aussa: Ah, ok. Well, you could try a live cd and check hardware compatibility on http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ -- You might also just want to try Debian and we can take it from there. It is hard to give more specific advice without know *exactly* what hardware you have (lspci -nn output)
12:15<hoivn>i open terminal, type "lsusb" but don't see device finger print
12:16<babilen>hoivn: If it is anything like the ones used in thinkpad you might find http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Integrated_Fingerprint_Reader helpful
12:16-!-lapfrog [~vampi@188.25.230.253] has joined #debian
12:16-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h146n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar]
12:17<babilen>hoivn: although at least the sgs thomson one shows in lsusb
12:17-!-alex_ [~alex@dhcp-023103.wlan.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
12:18-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@110.77.242.181] has joined #debian
12:18-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has joined #debian
12:18<babilen>hoivn: http://wiki.debian.org/FingerForce is also worth a look
12:18<aussa>ok, i'll go with the live cd... do you know if i can install the windows distro that came with the pc in a virtual machine having installed debian only?
12:19<babilen>aussa: I have absolutely no idea -- I would think that you need some installation media to pull this off. ##windows on irc.freenode.net might know more about this. (or a kind soul in here with more windows experience than me)
12:20<aussa>ok
12:20<aussa>t
12:20<aussa>y
12:20<aussa>ty
12:20-!-i10neorg [~one@208.65.88.192] has left #debian []
12:20-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has joined #debian
12:20<hoivn>@babilen: i install thinkfinger-tools
12:20-!-bojana [~bojana@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:21-!-aussa [~aussa@190.255.63.140] has quit []
12:21-!-bojana [~bojana@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined #debian
12:22-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
12:22<hoivn>and i open terminal type: "tf-tool --acquire", it's hava a notice " no device"
12:25-!-bojana [~bojana@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:25-!-lostinfog [~is001652@tch-66-128-217-50.thechildrenshospital.org] has left #debian []
12:26-!-Knorrie [knorrie@yoshi.kantoor.mendix.nl] has quit [Quit: doei!]
12:27-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:27-!-FascinioBR [~FascinioB@187.118.124.26] has joined #debian
12:31<_neil_>asus n53j have got 2 graphics card (intel + nvidia)
12:32<_neil_>Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller and Vidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 335M]
12:33-!-xqvp43 [~xqvp43@115.195.141.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:33-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
12:33-!-lbt_ is now known as lbt
12:33-!-hoivn [~hoivn@1.55.115.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:34-!-TheFox [~TheFox@d86-33-9-147.cust.tele2.at] has joined #debian
12:34<jhutchins_lt>hoivn: This is a pretty rare and specialized device. You might get more help on the mailing lists. I know people have worked with these things in Debian, I don't know if they've gotten them working.
12:34-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbc2be4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
12:35-!-xavier__ [~xavier@84.103.13.200] has joined #debian
12:37-!-lapfrogg [~vampi@85.122.81.58] has joined #debian
12:37-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:37-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has joined #debian
12:38-!-Claudinux [~claudio@94.160.101.51] has joined #debian
12:39<_neil_>How turn off i3 core graphics via debian? If it's possible?
12:40-!-deux [~deux@dial-78-141-91-221-orange.orange.sk] has joined #debian
12:40-!-jordan___ [~jordan@09GAAC9NZ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:40-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:40<deux>hi everyone, does anyone know when can we expect gnome 3 in testing?
12:41-!-cmomo [~cmomo@lns-bzn-35-82-250-249-214.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #debian
12:41<deux>would i be correct to assume it would be like a week after the stable comes out?
12:42-!-mtn [~mtn@99-196-115-2.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #debian
12:42-!-sabima [~sabima@p5DC49DF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
12:42<babilen>deux: It needs to be uploaded to unstable first (can't tell you when that is going to happen) and it will then migrate to testing. That is not linked to stable.
12:43-!-lapfrogg [~vampi@85.122.81.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:43<babilen>deux: Ah, you mean stable Gnome release, not a new Debian release :)
12:43<deux>no, i meant gnome going stable
12:43<deux>sorry
12:43<deux>gnome 3 is already in unstable i think
12:43-!-Muzer is now known as MuzerAway
12:43-!-lapfrog [~vampi@188.25.230.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:44-!-Martian67 [~Martian67@04ZAAAYR4.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:44-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:44<babilen>no problem, yeah ... something like that is likely. Can't tell you how long it takes to migrate to wheezy though as this entirely depends on the bugs reported against it.
12:44-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has joined #debian
12:44<babilen>deux: It is not -- gnome3-session is in experimental -- at least it was the last time I looked.
12:44-!-foolano [~magnetic@192.Red-83-33-124.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:44<deux>yeah, your right, saw it now
12:45<deux>can't wait
12:45<babilen>_neil_: You might have to switch it off in your BIOS -- Google for "vga switcheroo debian" that gives you a few discussions you might want to read
12:46-!-jgarvey [~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
12:47<deux>well, thanks everyone
12:47<deux>have a great day
12:47-!-deux [~deux@dial-78-141-91-221-orange.orange.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:47-!-MuzerAway is now known as Muzer
12:48<_neil_>babilen: BIOS doesn't any options for that.... maybe google help me with your suggestion
12:48<babilen>_neil_: I have, unfortunately, no experience with this setup (yet)
12:50-!-mOnDY [~martin-mo@adsl-dyn247.78-99-224.t-com.sk] has joined #debian
12:50<jhutchins_lt>Wouldn't you just blacklist any drivers for it?
12:50-!-vieira061180 [~vieira061@189-041-180-102.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined #debian
12:50-!-yves [foobar@agostini.univ-metz.fr] has joined #debian
12:50<thewanderer1>_neil_: my computer has a Core i3 with in-built graphics and a discrete NVidia card, and they are both running... I never found a way to turn off the CPU's GPU, but it does not appear to be working on its own when X.org is not using it
12:51<thewanderer1>as in, the Core's GPU is "running" as seen by the PC, but only idles, hence no "work"
12:51-!-vieira061180 [~vieira061@189-041-180-102.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has quit []
12:51-!-Megaf [~Debian@haiku-br.org] has joined #debian
12:53-!-marfx000 [~marfx000@cobble.bn.by] has joined #debian
12:53-!-geekliketodd [~todd@76.84.110.78] has quit [Quit: geekliketodd]
12:53-!-desertm4x [~desertm4x@91-114-141-194.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
12:54<_neil_>i'm going to test some google suggestion with agp=off to grub, etc... tomorrow, thx for help
12:54-!-desertm4x [~desertm4x@91-114-141-194.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #debian []
12:55-!-Buda [~joda@201.240.124.66] has joined #debian
12:55-!-Buda [~joda@201.240.124.66] has quit []
12:55-!-dencarlsson [~dencarlss@c83-253-156-43.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #debian
12:55-!-alex_ [~alex@dhcp-001161.wlan.ntnu.no] has joined #debian
12:56-!-melmothX [~melmothX@93-137-10-84.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: bau]
12:57-!-knoppix_ [~knoppix@77-20-38-239-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
12:57-!-knoppix_ [~knoppix@77-20-38-239-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit []
12:57-!-nasuta-work [~nasuta-wo@213.162.68.100] has joined #debian
12:58-!-sako [~sako@72.37.142.124] has quit [Quit: leaving]
12:58-!-jrabbit [~jackirssi@74-222-207-54.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:00-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbaa656.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
13:01-!-alex_ [~alex@dhcp-001161.wlan.ntnu.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:01-!-dencarlsson [~dencarlss@c83-253-156-43.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:03-!-Odius [~Odius@c-89-160-64-132.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #debian
13:05-!-Ragna [~Ragna@dslb-094-220-184-224.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
13:05-!-Ragna [~Ragna@dslb-094-220-184-224.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit []
13:08-!-ticha [~charles@81-67-72-180.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
13:08-!-hemanth [~hemanth@122.167.213.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:08-!-cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:09-!-krayn [~Adium@87.19.210.52] has joined #debian
13:10-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@175.180.88.102] has quit [Quit: 3 2 1...]
13:11-!-sigs [~stephens@149-149-169-152-127.nat.asu.edu] has joined #debian
13:12-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:13-!-Claudinux [~claudio@94.160.101.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:13-!-jrabbit [~jackirssi@74-222-207-54.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
13:14-!-cjac [~cjac@adsl-207-32-175-127.rockisland.net] has joined #debian
13:15-!-slsimic [~GX610@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined #debian
13:15-!-kfarrouj [~kfarrouj@41.92.74.2] has joined #debian
13:15-!-Metaphor-Man [~Metaphor-@77-56-191-137.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #debian
13:17-!-cjac_ [~cjac@adsl-207-32-175-127.rockisland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:18-!-sigs [~stephens@149-149-169-152-127.nat.asu.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:19-!-ALGORi7HM [~satish@117.207.240.42] has joined #debian
13:19-!-lanthan [~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
13:19-!-jas4711 [~jas@c80-216-4-108.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #debian
13:19-!-Odius [~Odius@c-89-160-64-132.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä]
13:19<ALGORi7HM>hi
13:19-!-stephens [~stephens@149-149-169-152-127.nat.asu.edu] has joined #debian
13:20-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has joined #debian
13:20-!-ALGORi7HM [~satish@117.207.240.42] has quit []
13:23-!-stephens [~stephens@149-149-169-152-127.nat.asu.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:24-!-nathan [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:27-!-blue [~blue@irc.mmh.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:28-!-lelamal_ [~quassel@87.19.99.33] has joined #debian
13:29-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
13:29-!-thkoch [~thkoch@201-190.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:30-!-jrabbit [~jackirssi@74-222-207-54.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:30-!-lelamal [~quassel@host198-105-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:30-!-jrabbit [~jackirssi@74-222-207-54.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
13:31-!-pvl1 [~pvl1@pool-71-185-169-205.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
13:32-!-blue [~blue@irc.mmh.dk] has joined #debian
13:33-!-alexandre [~alexandre@201-89-79-29.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #debian
13:33-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@93-232-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se] has joined #debian
13:37-!-gustavojordan [~jordan@04ZAAAZA4.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:37-!-uovobw [~uovobw@212.129.87.18] has joined #debian
13:38-!-pastep [~stephens@149-149-169-152-127.nat.asu.edu] has joined #debian
13:38-!-Muzer [~muzer@cpc1-ando1-0-0-cust1004.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net]
13:41-!-Robin [~Robin@142.77-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #debian
13:42-!-TheFox [~TheFox@d86-33-9-147.cust.tele2.at] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 21 seconds]
13:42-!-jordan___ [~jordan@09GAAC9NZ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:45-!-Karburator [~poplava@91.191.29.134] has joined #debian
13:45-!-hatoon [~musis@187.59.144.111] has joined #debian
13:46-!-hatoon [~musis@187.59.144.111] has quit []
13:46-!-marfx000 [~marfx000@cobble.bn.by] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:47-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
13:47-!-adi [~adi@2001:470:b471:0:dc97:3f98:9ba5:88a9] has joined #debian
13:47-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-98-118-58-91.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
13:48-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
13:48-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has joined #debian
13:49-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.12.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:50-!-bluenemo_ [~bluenemo@p54AA3AE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
13:50-!-gustavojordan [~jordan@04ZAAAZA4.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:52-!-jrabbit [~jackirssi@74-222-207-54.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:53-!-Hydroxide [jimmy@hydroxide.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:54-!-nick [~nick@pD9561819.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
13:54<nick>lol
13:54-!-ua [~ua@dhcp-bro-re117.univ-paris1.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:54-!-alienux [~theXman@wana-120-232-12-196.wanamaroc.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
13:54-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
13:54<sney>lol?
13:55-!-ronak_ [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
13:55<nick>just a test
13:55-!-Claudinux [~claudio@2.157.11.207] has joined #debian
13:55-!-nick [~nick@pD9561819.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit []
13:56-!-rik_ [~rik@d54C5D66D.access.telenet.be] has joined #debian
13:56-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@p54AA722B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:57<Karburator>In old English, sentence was finished with a full stop. In modern English, sentence is finished with lol, lol
13:58-!-jrabbit [~jackirssi@74-222-207-54.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
13:58-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.30.7] has joined #debian
13:59-!-Caroll [~caroll@200.14.32.75] has left #debian [Saindo]
13:59-!-nathan [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
13:59-!-ompaul [~ompaul@109.77.149.32] has joined #debian
13:59<jhutchins_lt>Karburator: Some day some wag is going to insist that lol always stood for "limit of line" and was intended as a terminator.
14:00<Karburator>*sigh*
14:00-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@102.246.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:00-!-eknahm [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
14:00-!-eknahm [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:01<ompaul>jhutchins_lt I'd rofl if I thought that was funny. ;-)
14:02-!-ronak_ [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:02-!-ronak_ [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
14:02<nathan>cannesahs,
14:02<nathan>oops, sorry
14:03-!-Texou [~Texou@pat35-5-78-226-56-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
14:03*mmgc84 test
14:03-!-R33D3M33R [~R33D3M33R@BSN-182-125-191.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #debian
14:03-!-thierry [~thierry@41.208.153.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:03-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.94.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:04-!-ronak__ [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
14:04-!-nathan [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:04-!-ronak_ [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has left #debian []
14:05<R33D3M33R>Hi all, I just deleted a file directly, didn't send it to the trash (using debian 6.0). What is the best way to get it back?
14:05-!-G2 [g2@129.21.60.127] has joined #debian
14:06<babilen>R33D3M33R: Stop using the system immediately! Create an image of the partition and take it from there ...
14:06<amphi>R33D3M33R: try testdisk
14:06<babilen>What kind of file?
14:06-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:06-!-G2 is now known as TheG2
14:06<R33D3M33R>it's an .ods
14:06-!-Muzer [~muzer@cpc1-ando1-0-0-cust1004.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
14:06-!-Muzer is "Murray Colpman" on #gc-linux #debian #
14:06<R33D3M33R>i edited it moments ago
14:07<Karburator>is it still open?
14:07<babilen>But you don't have it open anymore?
14:07-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:07<R33D3M33R>no, that is the problem
14:07-!-trifolio6 [~h@84.127.65.216.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
14:07<kop>R33D3M33R: mount -o remount,ro /yourmountpoint
14:07<R33D3M33R>openoffice was closed
14:07<babilen>Is the program still running?
14:07<R33D3M33R>no
14:07-!-mtn [~mtn@99-196-115-2.cust.wildblue.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
14:07<babilen>R33D3M33R: Damn -- would have been pretty easy if OO would still be running
14:07-!-trifolio6 [~h@84.127.65.216.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:08<R33D3M33R>i closed the program, and then mistakenly deleted a file in krusader - the wrong panel was selected
14:08<babilen>R33D3M33R: How long does it take to recreate the document?
14:08<TheG2>Got a quick question...running a Minecraft server (yes I know...) in a VirturalBox VM. Starting to get issues with java along the lines of "Too many open files". ulimit -n returns 1024. I've tried editing /etc/security/limits.conf but the ulimit -n doesn't change and I continue to run into this issue. Any suggestions?
14:08-!-Hydroxide [jimmy@hydroxide.netop.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:08<R33D3M33R>i will probably never be able to recreate it as it contains information collected through time
14:08-!-trifolio6 [~h@84.127.65.216.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
14:09<R33D3M33R>so i will hardly remember everything, it had 60 lines :(
14:09<Karburator>File can be recovered as long as there was not anything written to "it's place on the hard drive" ...
14:09<babilen>R33D3M33R: Which filesystem do you use?
14:10<R33D3M33R>i think it's ext4
14:10<babilen>R33D3M33R: I can only say it again: The most important step right now is to *stop using the system*
14:10<Karburator>If you followed kop's advice and remount your system read only, you may still have a chance to get it back
14:10<babilen>R33D3M33R: Yes, remount it read-only
14:11<R33D3M33R>well, it's the home partition, so it doesn't want to unmount, can I force it somehow and not break the running programs?
14:11<Karburator>mount -o remount,ro /mountpoint
14:11<R33D3M33R>mount: /home is busy
14:12<babilen>R33D3M33R: You then want to look into tools such as extundelete, magicrescue, photorec ... Not sure how they work with ext4 though
14:12<R33D3M33R>i already closed every program that could write to it, except pidgin
14:12<kop>R33D3M33R: e2undel is a package that claims to be able to help.
14:12-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5-dev]
14:12<ompaul>R33D3M33R: is your machine making IRC logs ... overwriting your current file, in fact his this now deleting your critical data? quit become root and do it but hey your call if you keep using it and my text overwrites it
14:12-!-IdanKamara [~idank@85.65.47.74.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #debian
14:12<R33D3M33R>no, logging is off
14:13<kop>babilen: ext4?
14:13<przemoc>hi, I'm looking for debian kernel config files. http://merkel.debian.org/~jurij/ does no longer work. is there any new place for it?
14:13<babilen>kop: R33D3M33R said he is using ext4
14:13<themill>przemoc: /boot on your machine
14:13<babilen>R33D3M33R: Ah, too bad. photorec does not seem to recover .ods files
14:13<przemoc>I'm looking for more recent stuff
14:14<kop>babilen: Ah. Now I see.
14:14<przemoc>like 2.6.38
14:14-!-And1 [and1@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #debian
14:14<Karburator>Download a deb from sid, then just extract it's contents into some directory
14:15<kop>R33D3M33R: aptitude search ~Grecover (after installing debtags) gives you a list of possible choices.
14:15<babilen>R33D3M33R: Really, turn off the system. Create an image (with dd) of the partition in question and work on copies of that image. You can then try different undelete tools and strategies.
14:15<ompaul>przemoc: http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2011-03/msg08229.html
14:15-!-ticha [~charles@81-67-72-180.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:15<babilen>R33D3M33R: You obviously have to do that from a live CD
14:15-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has joined #debian
14:15<kop>R33D3M33R: Yeah. Boot from a debian-live cd.
14:15<ompaul>R33D3M33R: it seems obvious to me you don't want that data or you would be off the box by now
14:15-!-mesaber [~mesaber@41.232.122.58] has joined #debian
14:16<TheG2>No one has any advice about increasing the number of available open file descriptors for java?
14:16-!-Karburator [~poplava@91.191.29.134] has quit [Quit: Buy a Pentium II so you can reboot faster.]
14:16<mesaber>hi, i need a good ftp client and a good text editor for php
14:16<R33D3M33R>i will copy the image to external hdd, thanks for the help for now
14:16<babilen>R33D3M33R: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
14:16-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.23.143] has joined #debian
14:16-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:16-!-arif-ali [~arif-ali@ip-81-23-53-226.ask4internet.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:17<R33D3M33R>ok, will try, thanks and bye
14:17<kop>mesaber: Learn to use eamcs (my choice) or vi and be done with it.
14:17-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
14:17-!-R33D3M33R [~R33D3M33R@BSN-182-125-191.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
14:17-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has joined #debian
14:17-!-ticha [~charles@81-67-72-180.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
14:17<mesaber>what about the ftp client
14:18<babilen>mesaber: Just run "vimtutor" and be done with it. Don't give in to the gospels of the church of emacs -- the cult of vim needs you :)
14:18<kop>mesaber: What's "good"?
14:18<mesaber>yeah
14:18<kop>babilen:)
14:18<ompaul>babilen: it is the Church of Emacs to you!
14:18<kop>mesaber: I mean, what constitutes good? How would you know "good" if you saw it?
14:19<mesaber>easy simple fast
14:19<ompaul>kop: it would have a label "better than other stuff, in fact good"
14:19<jhutchins_lt>mesaber: cli ftp is usually installed by default.
14:19<kop>mesaber: What's wrong with "ftp".
14:19-!-TheG2 [g2@129.21.60.127] has left #debian []
14:19<mesaber>is it available by default?
14:19*pecenipicek follows the "cult of nano and if you need more advanced use sftp and do it in something thats not in CLI"
14:19<jhutchins_lt>I don't know of any web browsers that fail to handle ftp.
14:20<kop>mesaber: Unless you choose the most minimal of installs.
14:20<mesaber>what is it's command?
14:20<kop>jhutchins_lt: Lots won't upload with ftp, so they don't count as a "full" client....
14:20<kop>mesaber: "man ftp"
14:21-!-mode/#debian [+l 488] by debhelper
14:21<mesaber>just that?!
14:21-!-majlo_ [~majlo@79.139.92.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:21-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:21<ompaul>mesaber: it is fully functional
14:21<kop>mesaber: That's the manual. If you want to use ftp, you type "ftp". Then you can type "help".
14:21-!-eknahm [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
14:21<babilen>mesaber: look at "ftp" "ncftp" "gftp" "Places --> Connect to server" (in nautilus) ...
14:21<mesaber>oh man, that helped a lot thanks guys, thank you kop
14:22<kop>mesaber: Although I agrees with pecenipicek, ftp sucks. Use sftp.
14:22<przemoc>ompaul: thanks, but ries does not have opened 80/tcp port, so obviously http://ries.debian.org/~jurij/ does not work...
14:22<kop>mesaber: (Given a choice that is.)
14:23<pecenipicek>kop: as i said "cult of nano and if you need more advanced use SFTP and do it in something thats not in CLI"
14:23<ompaul>przemoc: I was only explaining why you couldn't do what you wanted to do, things don't always work.
14:23<przemoc>ompaul: sure, I appreciate it
14:24<babilen>mesaber: I would highly recommend to try the "Connect to server" functionality in nautilus if you are using gnome
14:24<mesaber>no, xfce
14:24<mesaber>but i want to use command line
14:24-!-eknahm1 [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
14:24-!-eknahm is now known as Guest754
14:24-!-eknahm1 is now known as eknahm
14:24-!-alexandre [~alexandre@201-89-79-29.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
14:24<jhutchins_lt>mesaber: ftp or sftp then.
14:25<mesaber>thanks a lot
14:25-!-eknahm [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit []
14:25<mesaber>bye
14:25-!-mesaber [~mesaber@41.232.122.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:27-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@w002336pc.unwired.unomaha.edu] has joined #debian
14:29-!-Guest754 [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:29-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:30-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.76.183] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:30-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.30.7] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out]
14:31-!-mode/#debian [+l 482] by debhelper
14:31-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.30.7] has joined #debian
14:32-!-byonk [~byonk@114-32-5-66.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:33-!-themill [~stuart@themill.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:33-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:38-!-rpetre [~petre@91.220.121.250] has quit [Quit: leaving]
14:39-!-franklin [~fpiat@klabs.be] has joined #debian
14:39-!-nathan_ [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
14:39-!-NoobCoder [unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk] has joined #debian
14:40-!-musixuser [~musixuser@95-90-77-248-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
14:41-!-Gun_Smoke [~GS@adsl-99-121-239-165.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
14:43-!-ticha [~charles@81-67-72-180.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:44-!-angelmo [~jakatan@200.75.48.75] has joined #debian
14:44<angelmo>como estan
14:45-!-dcraig [~craig@euphoria.dysphoros.org] has left #debian []
14:47-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
14:48-!-nepenthe [~quassel@GZKMMDCXXIV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:50-!-musixuser [~musixuser@95-90-77-248-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:50-!-kurohige [~libertad@2001:1291:234:0:7ae4:ff:fe00:7a83] has joined #debian
14:51-!-dendiz [~dendiz@88.234.8.159] has joined #debian
14:51-!-dendiz [~dendiz@88.234.8.159] has left #debian []
14:52-!-mramige_ [~mramige@h235.225.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
14:52-!-mramige_ [~mramige@h235.225.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit []
14:53<angelmo>hi
14:53-!-barbanegra [~libertad@r190-64-169-117.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
14:54-!-sabima [~sabima@p5DC49DF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
14:54-!-Haldrik [~h539152@gw-cmo.aim-net.cz] has joined #debian
14:54-!-Haldrik [~h539152@gw-cmo.aim-net.cz] has left #debian []
14:56-!-esmz-designz [~esmz-desi@cable-62-117-25-153.cust.telecolumbus.net] has joined #debian
14:57-!-slsimic [~GX610@cable-89-216-176-247.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:57-!-Gun_Smoke [~GS@adsl-99-121-239-165.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:57-!-kfarrouj [~kfarrouj@41.92.74.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:58-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:58-!-craigevil [~craig@66.87.0.46] has joined #debian
14:58-!-Robin [~Robin@142.77-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Connection was killed by ChanServ]
14:58-!-Lethalman [~lethal@host135-14-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
14:58-!-Robin [~Robin@142.77-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #debian
15:01-!-BLarg [ic382@adsl-99-135-11-23.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:01-!-ottoshmidt [~ottoshmid@188-169-14-156.dsl.utg.ge] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:02-!-Pitxyoki [~PT-SC-257@a85-138-125-29.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian
15:09-!-BLarg [ic382@adsl-99-135-11-23.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
15:09-!-uovobw [~uovobw@212.129.87.18] has left #debian [.]
15:10-!-cjuner [~cjuner@frnk-590d09da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:12-!-alienux1 [~theXman@dynamic.casap2-22-25-137-41.wanamaroc.com] has joined #debian
15:12-!-ilya [~ilya@109-227-237-194.nts.su] has joined #debian
15:12-!-ilya [~ilya@109-227-237-194.nts.su] has quit []
15:13-!-tjader [~rodrigo@katara.tjader.com.br] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
15:14-!-Robin [~Robin@142.77-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Connection was killed by ChanServ]
15:14-!-anbe [~andreas@calzone.ae.cs.uni-frankfurt.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:15-!-tjader [~rodrigo@katara.tjader.com.br] has joined #debian
15:16-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@w002336pc.unwired.unomaha.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:16-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@w002336pc.unwired.unomaha.edu] has joined #debian
15:16-!-mtn [~mtn@99-196-115-2.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #debian
15:17-!-tensorpudding [~user@99.148.205.193] has joined #debian
15:18-!-jcole [~jcole@pal01cs001.americas.hp.net] has joined #debian
15:18-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has joined #debian
15:20<jcole>is there a way to get pam-auth-update to remove an auth method without prompting? ie: "pam-auth-update --remove krb5"
15:23-!-freex [~user@212-183-54-103.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:23-!-knoppix_ [~knoppix@206.162.161.156] has joined #debian
15:23-!-Knorrie [knorrie@yoshi.kantoor.mendix.nl] has joined #debian
15:24-!-knoppix_ is now known as Guest764
15:27-!-Guest764 [~knoppix@206.162.161.156] has quit []
15:27-!-hever [~hever@85-222-28-130.home.aster.pl] has joined #debian
15:29-!-nasuta-work [~nasuta-wo@213.162.68.100] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
15:30-!-angelmo [~jakatan@200.75.48.75] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
15:31-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
15:31-!-ompaul [~ompaul@109.77.149.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:31-!-rik_ [~rik@d54C5D66D.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:36-!-henrique [~gleyson@128.Red-80-39-23.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
15:36<henrique>ola
15:36<henrique>hola
15:36<henrique> gente
15:36-!-ticha [~charles@free.router2.ipv4.networkn.net] has joined #debian
15:36<streuner_>henrique: /msg dpkg es :-P
15:36<henrique>hablar
15:37<streuner_>henrique: Madrid!
15:37<streuner_>Real
15:37-!-dodo [~dodo@pc-147-170-161-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #debian
15:38-!-rage [~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
15:38<streuner_>henrique: just watch Real and dont waste time :-) - http://livetv.ru/de/eventinfo/69488_real_madrid_tottenham/
15:38-!-Metaphor-Man [~Metaphor-@77-56-191-137.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
15:38-!-mmgc84 [~mmgc84@dynamic90-114.MAN-B2-3.cablenet.com.ni] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:38-!-fer0x [~fer0x@xdsl-78-34-180-244.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
15:38-!-taffit_ [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has joined #debian
15:40-!-taffit [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:41-!-omry [~omry@DSL212-235-83-63.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out]
15:43-!-juan76 [~Juan@200.172.34.98] has joined #debian
15:43-!-juan76 [~Juan@200.172.34.98] has quit []
15:43-!-omry [~omry@DSL212-235-83-63.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #debian
15:43-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-114.telpol.net.pl] has quit [Quit: OkropNick]
15:45-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@w002336pc.unwired.unomaha.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:45-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-114.telpol.net.pl] has joined #debian
15:47-!-rovanion_ [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
15:48-!-Donciakas [~Donciakas@client-178-16-42-66.inturbo.lt] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:48-!-craigevil [~craig@66.87.0.46] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:49-!-pecenipicek [~pecenipic@cpe-109-60-87-187.zg3.cable.xnet.hr] has quit [Quit: WHAAAAAAAAA-*SPLAT*]
15:50-!-TheRealOne [~quassel@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #debian
15:50-!-ZykoticK9 [~zykotick9@66.11.174.71] has joined #debian
15:51-!-melmothX [~melmothX@93-137-10-84.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
15:52-!-jackSmith [~caleb@142.167.129.104] has joined #debian
15:53-!-magellanino [~magellani@magellanino.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:53-!-adema [~adema@aqu33-7-78-232-32-140.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:53-!-melmothX [~melmothX@93-137-10-84.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit []
15:53-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:53-!-pLr` [~acer@modemcable087.23-178-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian
15:54-!-magellanino [~magellani@magellanino.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:54-!-esmz-designz [~esmz-desi@cable-62-117-25-153.cust.telecolumbus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:54-!-kevin8t8 [~kevin8t8@75-170-5-144.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
15:55-!-scrp3l [~scrp3l__@201.250.145.242] has joined #debian
15:56-!-cahoot [~radix@c83-252-75-32.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:56-!-visicalc [~visicalc@e180146163.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
15:56-!-ompaul [~ompaul@109.77.149.32] has joined #debian
15:58-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has joined #debian
16:02-!-mtn [~mtn@99-196-115-2.cust.wildblue.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
16:03-!-phorce1_ [~gvl2@76.210.239.191] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:03-!-fer0x [~fer0x@xdsl-78-34-180-244.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
16:04-!-tensorpudding [~user@99.148.205.193] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:07-!-nathan_ [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
16:08-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.29.134] has joined #debian
16:09-!-josgalo [~josgalo@86.164.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
16:09-!-cerkido [~cerkido@173.Red-83-35-180.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
16:09-!-cerkido [~cerkido@173.Red-83-35-180.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
16:09-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-078-043-088-121.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:12-!-henrique [~gleyson@128.Red-80-39-23.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
16:12-!-ZykoticK9 [~zykotick9@66.11.174.71] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:14-!-Hugo_Ball [~sam@vil93-14-88-184-73-71.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
16:14-!-Hugo_Ball [~sam@vil93-14-88-184-73-71.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
16:20-!-kevin8t8 [~kevin8t8@75-170-5-144.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #debian
16:23-!-phoenix [~phoenix@akr4.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
16:24-!-ronak__ [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:25-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:26-!-ReinerS_ [~quassel@p57B5D409.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
16:26-!-jamie [~jamie@174.33.212.245] has joined #debian
16:26-!-rage [~rage@val59-5-88-172-75-180.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
16:27-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has joined #debian
16:27-!-jamie is now known as Guest771
16:27-!-dabor [~dabor@190.49.40.161] has joined #debian
16:27-!-dabor [~dabor@190.49.40.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:27-!-FascinioBR [~FascinioB@187.118.124.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:28-!-whirli [~whirl@dsl-trebrasgw2-fe47f900-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
16:29-!-phorce1 [~gvl2@buffy.phorce1.net] has joined #debian
16:29-!-nacol [~nacol@41.71.151.116] has joined #debian
16:29-!-Guest771 [~jamie@174.33.212.245] has quit []
16:30<nacol>what is this all about?
16:30-!-nacol [~nacol@41.71.151.116] has quit []
16:31-!-mode/#debian [+l 476] by debhelper
16:32-!-TheRealOne [~quassel@ip4da19346.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:33-!-thakidpillz [~thakidpil@ool-44c3a1f6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
16:33<thakidpillz>hello
16:33-!-Megaf [~Debian@haiku-br.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:33<retrospectacus>sup thakidpillz
16:33-!-Muzer is now known as MuzerAway
16:34-!-thakidpillz [~thakidpil@ool-44c3a1f6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit []
16:34-!-hever [~hever@85-222-28-130.home.aster.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:36-!-towo` [~torsten_w@178-25-189-3-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
16:37-!-ds [~ds@46-223-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
16:37-!-jespada [~jespada@134.134.139.70] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:38-!-lsm5 [~lsm5@lander-asus.cse.Buffalo.EDU] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:38-!-dodo [~dodo@pc-147-170-161-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
16:39-!-MuzerAway is now known as Muzer
16:41-!-gigio [~rodrigo@72.14.229.17] has joined #debian
16:41-!-josgalo [~josgalo@86.164.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has left #debian []
16:41-!-trifolio6 [~h@84.127.65.216.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:41-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
16:42-!-IdanKamara [~idank@85.65.47.74.dynamic.barak-online.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
16:43-!-nathan_ [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
16:44-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
16:45-!-Jussi [~jussi@0132700296.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:46-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
16:47-!-bastilian [~bastilian@84.115.124.40] has joined #debian
16:47-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.29.134] has quit [Quit: In /dev/null none can hear you scream.]
16:47-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbaa656.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
16:47-!-ds [~ds@46-223-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
16:48-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-114.telpol.net.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:48-!-edgar [foobar@modemcable079.229-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:48-!-debian2 [~debian2@120.Red-88-27-150.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
16:48-!-debian2 [~debian2@120.Red-88-27-150.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
16:51-!-mode/#debian [+l 467] by debhelper
16:51-!-Dominus [~MasterD@0x5550e3cd.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #debian
16:53-!-lsm5 [~lsm5@lander-asus.cse.Buffalo.EDU] has joined #debian
16:57-!-aiaco [~aiaco@net-93-147-30-239.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #debian
16:58-!-Miova [~miova@APoitiers-651-1-186-83.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
16:58-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
16:58<Miova>Bonsoir.
16:58-!-foolano [~magnetic@216.Red-88-16-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
16:58-!-locklace [~0@04ZAAAZIS.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:58<Miova>J'aimerais s'il vous plaît avoir un peu d'aide sur l'utilisation du fichier sources.list pour Aptitude
16:59<streuner_>!fr
16:59<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
16:59<Miova>oh ? je ne suis pas sur le canal français ? oups, désolé ^^
16:59-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@102.246.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
16:59<streuner_>Miova: /msg dpkg sources.list
17:00<streuner_>or just talk english here :-)
17:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 475] by debhelper
17:01-!-aiaco [~aiaco@net-93-147-30-239.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit []
17:01-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
17:02-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:02-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
17:02<Miova>Ok, my bad, I just fail when I wrote the chan ^^
17:03<Miova>Well, I try to install LibreOffice, Firefox 4
17:03<Miova>For LibreOffice, I wrote the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/experimental.list
17:03<streuner_>judd, versions iceweasel
17:03<judd>Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-5; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-6~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-6; sid: 3.5.18-1; wheezy: 3.5.18-1; experimental: 4.0-3
17:04<Miova>Experiemental ? ok !
17:04<streuner_>Miova: libreoffice is in sid, and iceweasel only in experimental
17:04<MrFrood>Miova: give it time, they should appear in backports at some undefined point
17:04<Miova>I saw in a mail list that Libreoffice is in Experiemental
17:04<babilen>Miova: Which version of Debian do you run?
17:05<Miova>6.0.1
17:05-!-phorce1 [~gvl2@buffy.phorce1.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:05-!-themill [~stuart@themill.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:06<babilen>Miova: Please don't mix that with wheezy, sid or experimental. It'll break. I'm not sure about libreoffice, but I would just download FF4 from mozilla and unpack the tarball to /opt or /usr/local/firefox -- with a bit of work you can even teach the alternatives system about it (man update-alternatives)
17:06<sney>babilen, Miova: FF4 is available for Debian 6 (stable) from http://mozilla.debian.net/
17:07<Miova>ok, thanks
17:07<babilen>sney: Ah, wonderful news. /me hands a beer to the mozilla maintainers
17:07<streuner_>binaries of FF are just a waste of time, you have be lucky in order to get some stable version
17:07<streuner_>they daily built it....
17:08-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:08<streuner_>Miova: so, you have to be a very good reason in order to use FF 4
17:09-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:09<streuner_>otherwise, i wouldnt change/update, IMO
17:09<themill>streuner_: what are you on about?
17:09<Miova>It's dayli built ?
17:09<Miova>*daily
17:09<streuner_>Miova: daily built of FF
17:10<themill>Miova: no, firefox 4 has been released.
17:10<streuner_>firefox built daily, every day new
17:10<Miova>ow... therefore, I'm not interrest ... :(
17:10<Miova>btw, FF4 was released, isnt'it ?
17:10<streuner_>sure
17:11<Miova>I don't understand ...
17:11<streuner_>we told you, its in Debian, but in experimental...
17:11<Miova>well
17:11-!-tuxwarrior [~ulises@190.86.20.214] has joined #debian
17:12<babilen>Miova: http://mozilla.debian.net/ (courtesy of sney)
17:12<streuner_>Miova: iceweasel, of course
17:12-!-philsf [~philsf@procc1-250.procc.fiocruz.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:12-!-ticha [~charles@free.router2.ipv4.networkn.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:12-!-visicalc [~visicalc@e180146163.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:12<streuner_>but, if you want use binaries, which is a pain in the ass, just use them
17:13-!-jjg1965 [~quassel@222.105.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
17:13<Miova>By, Firefox, I mean Iceweasel ;)
17:13<streuner_>sure, iceweasel is in Debian Firefox
17:13-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
17:13<Miova>streuner_, why binairies are a problem ?
17:14<streuner_>Miova: as we told you before, they are daily built, they just fix another problem...
17:14<babilen>streuner_: What are you on about? What do you mean? What other problem?
17:14<Miova>oh ! ok ! But what about not-daily built ?
17:15<babilen>Miova: Just follow the instruction on http://mozilla.debian.net you'll be fine
17:15<streuner_>sure :-)
17:15<themill>streuner_: what are you talking about?
17:16-!-Muzer is now known as MuzerAway
17:16<streuner_>babilen: i talked about the problem here, just scroll up :-)
17:16-!-Taz [~taz@4be54-4-82-234-154-174.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
17:17<streuner_>themill: iam talking about binaries ;-)
17:17-!-aziz1 [~azizAZ@adsl-99-199-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has joined #debian
17:17-!-Taz [~taz@4be54-4-82-234-154-174.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
17:17<streuner_>and its mostly crap
17:17<themill>streuner_: mozilla.org produces binaries that are for the releases. You go there, download one for "firefox 4" and it's the same one as yesterday, the same one as tomorrow. It's called a release.
17:19-!-taffit_ [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:19<streuner_>themill: well, i dont know this kind of problem, usually they built another new version every day...
17:19<streuner_>in order to fix a new problem...
17:20<streuner_>themill: in 4 there is nothing stable, forget that !
17:20-!-zast [~zast@host125-61-234-109.static.ehiweb.it] has joined #debian
17:21-!-aziz1 [~azizAZ@adsl-99-199-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has quit []
17:22-!-taffit [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has joined #debian
17:23-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has joined #debian
17:23-!-zast [~zast@host125-61-234-109.static.ehiweb.it] has quit []
17:24-!-Schuenemann [~S@177.16.235.246] has joined #debian
17:25<Schuenemann>hi. I have changed user dirs in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, but after I log off, they are empty ($HOME/). How do I change that
17:25<Schuenemann>debian 6 it is
17:25<Schuenemann>How do I change that <- sorry, that was a question
17:26-!-alephnull [~alok@122.172.10.87] has joined #debian
17:28<streuner_>Schuenemann: that makes no sense, what are you trying to do at all?
17:29<Schuenemann>streuner_, user dirs are localised. I have $HOME/Área de Trabalho instead of $HOME/Desktop
17:29-!-nathan_ [~nathan@ip-52.net-81-220-206.roubaix.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:29-!-nutterpc [~nutterpc@120.153.140.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:29<Schuenemann>so I changed to Desktop, closed session. It was changed to $HOME/ only
17:29<Schuenemann>same to the others I changed
17:30-!-jjg1965 [~quassel@222.105.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:31-!-jhutchins_lt [~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
17:31-!-adi [~adi@2001:470:b471:0:dc97:3f98:9ba5:88a9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:31-!-jhutchins_lt [~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
17:33-!-zyga [~zyga@95.214.23.143] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
17:34-!-d3nn [~d3nn@190.129.169.23] has joined #debian
17:35-!-Lethalman [~lethal@host135-14-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
17:36<d3nn>quit
17:36-!-d3nn [~d3nn@190.129.169.23] has quit []
17:36-!-d3nn [~d3nn@190.129.169.23] has joined #debian
17:36-!-jjg1965 [~quassel@222.105.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
17:36<Schuenemann>alright, I'll report this as bug
17:36-!-noi [~noi@28IAAAR2A.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:37<themill>Schuenemann: what desktop is that for?
17:37<Schuenemann>themill, sorry, what do you mean?
17:37<Schuenemann>this line: XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Área de Trabalho"
17:37<themill>Schuenemann: those settings work just fine for KDE in squeeze. It might not work for whatever other desktop environment you are using.
17:38<Schuenemann>hmm it's gnome
17:38-!-phdeswer [~philippe@a83-245-252-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
17:38-!-cmomo [~cmomo@lns-bzn-35-82-250-249-214.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:38<themill>I can't tell you whether gnome honours those XDG settings or not.
17:38<Schuenemann>well, but it DID change, just not to what I wanted. But desktop became my home dir
17:39-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:39<Schuenemann>my desktop now has everything my home dir has
17:39-!-Noomjpe [~Noompje@53524DEF.cm-6-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
17:39-!-Noomjpe [~Noompje@53524DEF.cm-6-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit []
17:41-!-ajcortes [~ajcortes@222.105.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
17:42-!-noi [~noi@659AAAXOW.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:42-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
17:42-!-adi [~adi@2001:470:b471:0:50c8:251:983a:cd98] has joined #debian
17:42-!-Noompje [~Noompje@53524DEF.cm-6-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
17:43-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:43-!-Noompje [~Noompje@53524DEF.cm-6-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit []
17:43-!-foolano [~magnetic@216.Red-88-16-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:44-!-dutchfish [~wil@541CF61E.cm-5-5d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl]
17:44-!-tensorpudding [~user@99.148.205.193] has joined #debian
17:45-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:45-!-awesome [~awesome@153.110.194.139] has joined #debian
17:45-!-ajcortes [~ajcortes@222.105.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:46-!-tuhin [~tuhin@180.149.30.7] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:46-!-d3nn [~d3nn@190.129.169.23] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
17:47-!-jjg1965 [~quassel@222.105.223.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:47-!-afurlan [~afurlan@187.52.159.243] has joined #debian
17:47-!-afurlan [~afurlan@187.52.159.243] has quit []
17:48-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@ip72-206-102-29.om.om.cox.net] has joined #debian
17:49-!-Schuenemann [~S@177.16.235.246] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
17:50-!-Noompje [~Noompje@53524DEF.cm-6-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
17:50-!-Noompje [~Noompje@53524DEF.cm-6-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit []
17:51-!-mode/#debian [+l 468] by debhelper
17:51-!-adi [~adi@2001:470:b471:0:50c8:251:983a:cd98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:52-!-jcole [~jcole@pal01cs001.americas.hp.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
17:52-!-ultr [~ultr@aamu90.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
17:57-!-abcd82 [~abcd@109.110.18.181] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:58-!-vuj_tp [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
18:00-!-duxklr [~duxklr@wufis-pat8.nts.wustl.edu] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
18:01-!-towo` [~torsten_w@178-25-189-3-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: so, nu isser wech]
18:03-!-ultr [~ultr@aamu90.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:03-!-davyg [~davyg@dau94-9-88-178-191-172.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:04<pbn>Hi, in "squeeze", where did cupsys go ?
18:05-!-teage [~teage@65-37-9-23.nrp2.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #debian
18:05<themill>pbn: it was a transitional package in lenny
18:06<themill>,depends cupsys --release lenny
18:06<judd>Package cupsys -- depends: cups.
18:06<teage>Hi, was wondering if someone might be able to help me. I have installed Debian 5.0 on my Toshiba laptop via CDs, my wireless card seems to be undetected.
18:07-!-bluenemo_ [~bluenemo@p54AA3AE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:07<retrospectacus>teage: why 5.0? That's ooooold
18:08<retrospectacus>!wireless
18:08<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <killswitch>, <wpa>, <wlan howto>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
18:08-!-ds [~ds@46-223-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
18:08<sney>hmm, getting a Release File Expired from backports.
18:09-!-Bertram [~yohann@ADijon-259-1-138-81.w90-39.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
18:10-!-jgarvey [~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:10-!-ds [~ds@46-223-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has left #debian []
18:11-!-vuj_tp [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:12-!-teage [~teage@65-37-9-23.nrp2.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:13-!-lelamal_ [~quassel@87.19.99.33] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:16<cannesahs>could you tell some nice serial terminal program included to debian?
18:16-!-alephnull [~alok@122.172.10.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:17-!-vuj_tp [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
18:17-!-meebey_ [~meebey@188-192-52-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
18:17<pbn>themill: thank you
18:17<themill>np
18:18-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:18<themill>cannesahs: I've used putty the last couple of times I've needed one. there are plenty of others
18:18-!-meebey__ [~meebey@188-192-52-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
18:18-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:18-!-meebey__ [~meebey@188-192-52-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has left #debian []
18:18-!-ao2 [~u@2001:1418:117::1] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:18-!-phorce1 [~gvl2@99.135.248.69] has joined #debian
18:20<cannesahs>themill: can you name some console program? I guess putty is for X
18:20-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has joined #debian
18:20<cannesahs>used some about 10 years ago, but can't remember its name
18:21-!-mode/#debian [+l 460] by debhelper
18:21<themill>minicom
18:21<cthuluh>even screen
18:21-!-kenoby [~kenoby@host248-17-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:21<cannesahs>minicom is perfect I guess. that I used at old times
18:21<themill>"apt-cache search serial terminal" turns up a few more
18:21<cannesahs>ooh
18:22-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:22<cthuluh>oh, and kermit
18:22-!-mOnDY [~martin-mo@adsl-dyn247.78-99-224.t-com.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
18:23-!-vuj_tp [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:24-!-dvs [~me@206.248.136.46] has joined #debian
18:24-!-meebey_ [~meebey@188-192-52-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:24-!-agent1 [~agent1@c-65-34-242-84.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #debian
18:25<agent1>hi there
18:26<agent1>anyone successful on capturing video on squeeze 6 amd64
18:26-!-adema [~adema@aqu33-7-78-232-32-140.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
18:27-!-ReinerS_ [~quassel@p57B5D409.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:28<Dominus>When I'm using VIM and trying to save a file, it can sometimes take up to 30 seconds for it to save... How come my server is so slow?!
18:28-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
18:28-!-ml| [~ml@c-98-254-99-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
18:28-!-luca__ [~luca@93-33-13-108.ip42.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
18:28-!-ompaul [~ompaul@109.77.149.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:28<Dominus>"File.txt" 1371L, 52257C written
18:29<babilen>Dominus: I recommend #vim on irc.freenode.net
18:29<Dominus>Well, it's not only vim
18:29<Dominus>It's also sometimes when I go into folders and do $ ls
18:30<Dominus>And when I install packages for example
18:30-!-meebey_ [~meebey@188-192-52-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
18:30<willwh>Dominus: is it a vps?
18:30-!-jeflui [~jeflui@187-27-82-105.3g.claro.net.br] has joined #debian
18:30<Dominus>willwh: Yeah
18:30-!-babilen [~babilen@87-194-152-68.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving]
18:30<willwh>let's see some top output :]
18:31-!-kenoby [~kenoby@host197-224-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
18:31<retrospectacus>Dominus: almost certainly HDD latency due to other VPSs
18:31<willwh>is the hardware under your control?
18:31<willwh>yes
18:31<retrospectacus>(or yours)
18:31-!-ml| [~ml@c-98-254-99-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #debian
18:31<willwh>retrospectacus is correct, I would think
18:32<Dominus>http://pastebin.com/xd0jDMpy
18:32-!-agent1 [~agent1@c-65-34-242-84.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:32<Dominus>Hmm. So it's the other VPS's fault? :P
18:32-!-meebey_ [~meebey@188-192-52-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit []
18:32-!-q66 [~quaker66@213.191.105.214] has quit [Quit: Leaving..]
18:33<retrospectacus>Dominus: what if you run "top" while your "ls" is "loading"... you will probably see a large percent "wa" that is "waiting for disk"
18:33<retrospectacus>sorry for the excessive "quotes"
18:34<willwh>Dominus, also this: http://freshmeat.net/projects/fio/
18:34<willwh>I would start with contacting your vps provider though
18:34-!-hoho [~hoho@224puntacana98.codetel.net.do] has joined #debian
18:34-!-hoho [~hoho@224puntacana98.codetel.net.do] has quit []
18:36-!-vuj [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
18:36<Dominus>Hmm. What would I tell them? That I experience some latency while using ssh?
18:36-!-otypoks [~otypoks@host-5db0d228.sileman.net.pl] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
18:36<retrospectacus>Dominus: this is a common problem with VPS hosting, and it's just the way it is. If you want exclusive access to the disk spindle, get a physical server
18:37<willwh>^
18:37<willwh>or get a rack and install xenserver and run your own VPS'
18:37<retrospectacus>just tell them your filesystem access times are unacceptably high
18:37-!-_Danilo_ [~Danilo@09GAAC8LU.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: _Danilo_]
18:37<willwh>would probably help to provide some output from top when having an issue
18:38<Dominus>hmm
18:39<Dominus>I'll try to check for a couple of days
18:39<Dominus>Gather some top output
18:39<Dominus>and then I'll try to contact them
18:39<Dominus>Thx for the help :) And I'll be heading off for bed now. 0:40am :/
18:39<retrospectacus>nighty night
18:39<Dominus>bai :)
18:40<tartax>hey, awesom! we're in the same timezone!
18:40<Dominus>x)
18:40<Dominus>Where are you from? :D
18:40<tartax>germany, but i live in eypt
18:40<Dominus>is egypt in the same timezone as germany? .__.
18:40<tartax>yes!
18:41<tartax>at least in summer
18:41<Dominus>cool, i didn't know :)
18:41<Dominus>I'm from Denmark
18:41<Dominus>Right above Germany ;)
18:41<Dominus>but.. I'm so tired, so I'll quit :) baibai!
18:41<tartax>awesome :) have good night
18:41-!-vuj [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:41<Dominus>thank you very much :)
18:42-!-dodddummy [~dodddummy@74-129-133-133.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #debian
18:42-!-Dominus [~MasterD@0x5550e3cd.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: au revoir]
18:43-!-stderr_dk [~pohol@gw1.imm.dtu.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:43-!-vuj [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
18:44-!-eknahm [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
18:44-!-vizor [~vizor@178.121.161.17] has joined #debian
18:47-!-rovanion_ [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:47-!-luca__ [~luca@93-33-13-108.ip42.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
18:49-!-xamanu [~felix@190.181.165.248] has joined #debian
18:50-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
18:51-!-kurohige [~libertad@2001:1291:234:0:7ae4:ff:fe00:7a83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:51-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:52-!-krayn [~Adium@87.19.210.52] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
18:52-!-taffit_ [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has joined #debian
18:54-!-jrib [~jrib@pool-96-237-68-170.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5-dev]
18:54-!-taffit [~taffit@95.138.72.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:55-!-aroundthfur [~velimir@host-125-110.panorama.sth.ac.at] has joined #debian
18:57-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
18:57-!-alienux1 [~theXman@dynamic.casap2-22-25-137-41.wanamaroc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 454] by debhelper
19:02-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@102.246.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:02-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@ip72-206-102-29.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
19:03-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:03-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
19:03<Miova>Good-bye !
19:03-!-Miova [~miova@APoitiers-651-1-186-83.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
19:04-!-eknahm [~eknahm@ppp-71-139-4-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
19:04-!-Greg [~Greg@graska.reolight.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
19:06-!-Jo [~jo@62.252.24.130] has joined #debian
19:07-!-Jo [~jo@62.252.24.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:09-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:10-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
19:11-!-tartax [~tartax@41.130.62.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:12-!-craigevil [~craig@66.87.2.99] has joined #debian
19:13-!-FTA [~jeff@d24-57-136-247.home.cgocable.net] has joined #debian
19:13-!-NoobCoder [unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:13-!-FTA [~jeff@d24-57-136-247.home.cgocable.net] has quit []
19:14-!-benjamin [~benjamin@plb95-4-82-243-70-171.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
19:14-!-benjamin [~benjamin@plb95-4-82-243-70-171.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
19:14-!-edbian [~ed@th111-5.cs.wm.edu] has joined #debian
19:15-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:15-!-edbian [~ed@th111-5.cs.wm.edu] has quit []
19:15-!-NoobCoder [unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk] has joined #debian
19:16-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
19:18-!-jghghj [~toni@dslb-092-077-080-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
19:19-!-jibel_ [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-58-122.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:21-!-mode/#debian [+l 447] by debhelper
19:21-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.76.183] has joined #debian
19:21-!-Amorphous [jan@f048230106.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:22-!-PaulP [~Konversat@217.197.1.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:22-!-vuj_t [~t@f052128096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
19:23-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
19:24-!-jkgjg [~toni@dslb-178-003-243-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:24-!-rovanion [~rovanion@h95-155-234-167.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:25-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
19:29-!-vuj [~t@f052131089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:30-!-craigevil [~craig@66.87.2.99] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:31-!-NoobCoder [unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:32-!-Bertram [~yohann@ADijon-259-1-138-81.w90-39.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:33-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-89-207.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
19:34-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:36-!-Amorphous [jan@f048224229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
19:38-!-vizor [~vizor@178.121.161.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:38-!-NoobCoder [~unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk] has joined #debian
19:39-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
19:40-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
19:41-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit []
19:42-!-Quintasan_ [~quassel@p5DE79424.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
19:42-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
19:45-!-S_WO [~swo@ip-95-223-137-163.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:46-!-Nies [~YoMismo@239.Red-88-24-186.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
19:47-!-jcasanov [~jcasanov@190.131.86.163] has joined #debian
19:47-!-jcasanov [~jcasanov@190.131.86.163] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:48-!-LoRez [~lorez@09GAAC7RF.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:49-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DE79457.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:50-!-LoRez [~lorez@137.56.163.46] has joined #debian
19:59-!-NoobCoder [~unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:59-!-NoobCoder [unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk] has joined #debian
19:59-!-arabic [~arabic@41.232.194.134] has joined #debian
20:00<arabic>عندى مشكله ؟
20:00-!-tom4golf [~androirc@nc-76-0-191-70.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #debian
20:00<sney>!arabic
20:00<dpkg>methinks arabic is Linux supports the Arabic language. See http://www.arabeyes.org/download/documents/howto/arabic-howto-en/ For help with debian in Arabic, ask in #debian-lb on irc.freenode.net (and be patient! it's a small community)
20:02<arabic>لا يوجد أحد فى الشات العربى
20:03<arabic>#debian-lb
20:03-!-chrisreich [~Chris@cpe-74-69-44-45.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:05<retrospectacus>arabic: /server irc.freenode.net /join #debian-lb
20:05-!-arabic [~arabic@41.232.194.134] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:08<dvs>that's funky looking
20:08<retrospectacus>heh
20:09<retrospectacus>لا يوجد أحد فى الشات العربى means "No one in the Arab chat"
20:11-!-streuner__ [foobar@mnhm-590e43f7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
20:14-!-jhutchins_lt [~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20:14-!-mramige [~mramige@h235.225.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:14-!-dserban__ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
20:17-!-dserban_ [~dserban@S0106001346beb5f3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20:18-!-streuner_ [foobar@mnhm-4d0184ce.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:21-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:23-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has joined #debian
20:23-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.216.231] has quit []
20:24-!-dagmarh [~digi@core.elitter.net] has joined #debian
20:25-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-89-207.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:25-!-dagmarh [~digi@core.elitter.net] has left #debian []
20:26-!-daemonkeeper [~Arno@g229058134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:27-!-yanli [~YanLi@helpconfig.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:28-!-yanli [~YanLi@helpconfig.org] has joined #debian
20:29-!-Brigo [~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
20:29-!-trifolio6 [~h@84.127.65.216.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
20:31-!-mode/#debian [+l 441] by debhelper
20:31-!-tom4golf [~androirc@nc-76-0-191-70.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC]
20:32-!-nauak [~nauak@201.151.250.116] has joined #debian
20:32-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@93-232-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:32-!-paul [~paul@72.12.73.90] has joined #debian
20:33-!-paul is now known as Guest788
20:33-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1.18/20110324092924]]
20:33-!-stderr_dk [~pohol@0x55517066.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #debian
20:33-!-dajhorn [~dajhorn@99-74-253-20.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
20:33-!-themill [~stuart@themill.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:34-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:34-!-muammar [~muammar@193.48.172.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:34-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has quit []
20:34-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-89-89.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
20:35-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:35-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has quit []
20:36-!-bones_was_here [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:36-!-chitchat [~guest@ppp59-167-188-93.static.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
20:37-!-abrotman [~abrotman@c-76-116-159-137.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
20:37-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:37-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has quit []
20:39-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:40-!-mosno [~mosno@eth3903.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
20:40-!-atomo_84 [~atomo@host218-159-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
20:41-!-atomo_84 [~atomo@host218-159-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #debian []
20:41-!-vuj_t [~t@f052128096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:42-!-jhutchins_lt [~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
20:45-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.81.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:50-!-rohs [~rohs@172.Red-81-35-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
20:50-!-jackSmith [~caleb@142.167.129.104] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:52-!-slinker1 [~chard@ip70-185-169-203.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #debian
20:54-!-yanli [~YanLi@helpconfig.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:55-!-_julian [~quassel@hmbg-5f77c6ce.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
20:55-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-89-89.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:56-!-hardwalker [~hardwalke@114-33-201-92.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
20:56-!-bones_was_here [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
20:57-!-nardev [~nardev@92.36.214.58] has joined #debian
20:58-!-fisted_ [~fisted@p508838C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
20:58-!-fisted [~fisted@p508837D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:58-!-sret [cube@free.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:58-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@175.180.88.102] has joined #debian
20:58-!-CyL [carvalhais@free.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:01-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:02-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.142.198] has joined #debian
21:02-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.81.53] has joined #debian
21:02-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
21:02-!-kasun [~sword@202.129.232.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:03-!-_julian_ [~quassel@hmbg-5f7670f7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:03-!-slinker1 [~chard@ip70-185-169-203.mc.at.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:03-!-Buda [~joda@201.240.124.231] has joined #debian
21:03-!-Buda [~joda@201.240.124.231] has quit []
21:04-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-89-170.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
21:04-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.142.198] has quit []
21:05-!-duxklr [~duxklr@ppp-70-249-216-133.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #debian
21:06-!-lantizia [~lantizia@erebus.seaquake.net] has joined #debian
21:06<lantizia>hey does anyone know what package the "Monitors" program (under gnome preferences) comes form?
21:06<lantizia>*from
21:08-!-phoenix [~phoenix@akr4.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: (''b)]
21:09-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:09-!-bones_was_here [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:10-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has joined #debian
21:11-!-kasun [~sword@61.245.172.48] has joined #debian
21:13-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.81.53] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
21:13-!-yanli [~YanLi@helpconfig.org] has joined #debian
21:13-!-bones_was_here [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
21:16-!-ronak [~ronak@78.160.8.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:18-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-89-170.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:23-!-the|Navigator [~Navi@cpc13-newt29-2-0-cust105.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
21:24-!-TITS01 [TIBS01@92.7.166.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:24-!-slinker1 [~chard@ip70-185-169-203.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #debian
21:25<the|Navigator>I just tried netselect-apt and let it generate me a new sources.list file, however I'm slightly unsure about the generated file. It is considerably shorter. Can anyone tell me if I'm going to end up with missing packages/sources if I take its advice?
21:25-!-slinker1 [~chard@ip70-185-169-203.mc.at.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:26<the|Navigator>the old file has deb and deb-src lines for 'squeeze main', 'squeeze-updates main' and the security 'squeeze/updates main'. The generated file has an entry for 'stable main contrib non-free' and another for security 'stable main contrib non-free'.
21:28-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-100-136.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
21:29<MrFrood>the|Navigator: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d
21:29<the|Navigator>MrFrood: It's empty.
21:30-!-TIBS01 [TIBS01@92.7.166.148] has joined #debian
21:33<the|Navigator>More what I'm asking is whether the contents of 'squeeze main' and 'squeeze-updates main' are fully contained within the content of 'stable main contrib non-free'
21:33-!-phorce1 [~gvl2@99.135.248.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:35<MrFrood>you need add contrib & non-free, at the mo Squeeze & stable point at the same place but using squeeze means you will not accidently upgrade to the next stable when you are not prepared for it
21:35<abrotman>you could uh .. show us the new file ?
21:36-!-phorce1 [~gvl2@76.210.225.226] has joined #debian
21:36<MrFrood>the|Navigator: use a pastebin to show us
21:37-!-liyan [~YanLi@helpconfig.org] has joined #debian
21:37-!-Necrun [Necrocter@189.146.54.4] has joined #debian
21:37-!-ct [~colin@dsl-62-3-68-135.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:37<the|Navigator>http://paste.debian.net/113129/
21:38-!-Necrun [Necrocter@189.146.54.4] has quit []
21:38<the|Navigator>the thing above the -------, as listed, is the current sources.list
21:38<the|Navigator>the thing below it is what it suggested I make my sources.list into
21:38<abrotman>eww ... it points at stable
21:38<the|Navigator>I should point out the new server is less than 3ms from me, since the server is not US based.
21:40<the|Navigator>okay, so a simple replacement of stable with squeeze would be sufficient?
21:40<abrotman>using the IP is probably not a great idea ... but that's your issue
21:42<the|Navigator>Okay, no problem, I'll replace it with the domain.
21:42<the|Navigator>It's just http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ anyway.
21:42-!-sret [cube@free.blinkenshell.org] has joined #debian
21:42-!-doubledutch [~doubledut@c-98-234-228-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
21:42*cthuluh never got the point of squeeze-updates
21:43-!-CyL [carvalhais@free.blinkenshell.org] has joined #debian
21:43<the|Navigator>What is it for?
21:43<ml|>dpkg: squeeze-updates
21:43<dpkg>The Debian <Volatile> archive is discontinued starting from Debian 6.0, replaced by the squeeze-updates suite on official mirrors. Your squeeze sources.list could have "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <squeeze/updates>, ask me about <security>.
21:43-!-lantizia [~lantizia@erebus.seaquake.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:44<cthuluh>ohhh, former volatile 8)
21:44<cthuluh>never thought to ask dpkg, thanks ml|
21:44<ml|>np
21:45-!-yanli [~YanLi@helpconfig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:46-!-worellana [~worellana@190.87.234.57] has joined #debian
21:46-!-ct [~colin@dsl-62-3-68-135.zen.co.uk] has joined #debian
21:47<the|Navigator>so is squeeze-updates amalagamated into the created rule or is it missing?
21:49-!-duxklr [~duxklr@ppp-70-249-216-133.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
21:51-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-100-136.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:53-!-lantizia [~lantizia@erebus.seaquake.net] has joined #debian
21:54-!-mercutio22 [~mercutio2@189.38.172.205] has quit [Quit: leaving]
21:54-!-doubledutch [~doubledut@c-98-234-228-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
21:54<cthuluh>the|Navigator: missing, but you probably don't need it
21:55-!-dmz [~dmz@64.203.207.101.dyn-cm-pool-54.hargray.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:56-!-bones_was_here_ [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
21:57-!-kisetsu [~kisetsu@190.23.74.247] has joined #debian
21:57-!-kisetsu [~kisetsu@190.23.74.247] has quit []
21:58-!-dmz [~dmz@64.203.207.101.dyn-cm-pool-54.hargray.net] has joined #debian
21:59-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@ACaen-151-1-63-195.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
22:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 448] by debhelper
22:01-!-bones_was_here [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:04-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-98-118-58-91.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
22:05-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.4.48.135] has joined #debian
22:05-!-shaggins [~bilbo@c-76-111-36-228.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #debian
22:06-!-alvin [~quassel@178-116-22-125.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:08-!-bones_was_here [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
22:08-!-gamamb [~torsrvrs@anonymizer1.torservers.net] has joined #debian
22:08-!-eric_ [~eric@35.32.128.99] has joined #debian
22:09-!-worellana [~worellana@190.87.234.57] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
22:09-!-GeorgeSebastian [~georgeSeb@117.230.245.111] has joined #debian
22:10-!-eric_ [~eric@35.32.128.99] has quit []
22:10-!-th [~Administr@182.5.200.28] has joined #debian
22:13-!-Megaf [~Debian@haiku-br.org] has joined #debian
22:13-!-bones_was_here_ [bones@ppp59-167-222-236.qld.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:14-!-lantizia [~lantizia@erebus.seaquake.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:14-!-faw0 [~faw@201-66-120-232.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #debian
22:15-!-gamambel [~torsrvrs@anonymizer1.torservers.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:22-!-ok_wait [~ok@ord-69-171-163-167.evdo.leapwireless.net] has joined #debian
22:22-!-ok_wait [~ok@ord-69-171-163-167.evdo.leapwireless.net] has quit []
22:23-!-Guest788 [~paul@72.12.73.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:23-!-ct [~colin@dsl-62-3-68-135.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:23-!-kasion [~kasion@60.191.99.1] has joined #debian
22:23-!-jrib [~jrib@pool-96-237-68-170.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #debian
22:29-!-ganryu [~ganryu@190.178.121.73] has joined #debian
22:29-!-ganryu [~ganryu@190.178.121.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:32-!-kasion [~kasion@60.191.99.1] has left #debian [Konversation terminated!]
22:33-!-ct [~colin@dsl-62-3-68-135.zen.co.uk] has joined #debian
22:33-!-irshad [~irshad@203.153.223.73] has joined #debian
22:34-!-jrib [~jrib@pool-96-237-68-170.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5-dev]
22:37-!-kurohige [~libertad@r190-135-216-186.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
22:37-!-w3asel [~w3asel@190.198.18.197] has joined #debian
22:39-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
22:39-!-irshad [~irshad@203.153.223.73] has left #debian [Konversation terminated!]
22:41-!-Texou [~Texou@pat35-5-78-226-56-130.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4]
22:42-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-108-15-23-12.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:43-!-the|Navigator [~Navi@cpc13-newt29-2-0-cust105.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #debian []
22:43-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A90FD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
22:43-!-the|Navigator_ [~Navi@cpc13-newt29-2-0-cust105.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
22:43-!-the|Navigator_ [~Navi@cpc13-newt29-2-0-cust105.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #debian []
22:46-!-smjn [~sami@hoasb-ff0cdd00-189.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
22:52-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-173-69-167-64.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
22:54-!-Claudinux [~claudio@2.157.11.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:56-!-abrotman [~abrotman@c-76-116-159-137.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:57-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:59<eightyeight>any idea why debian would just kick off 100 apache and mysql processes?
22:59<eightyeight>it completely brings my server to its knees, fills up ram, then swap, and chews through disk for hours on end before resolving itself
22:59<eightyeight>or me issuing a cold boot
23:00-!-chihchun [~chihchun@n201.enc.hlc.edu.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:00<eightyeight>i can't login, any existing connection gets cut
23:00<eightyeight>really frustrating
23:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 441] by debhelper
23:01-!-chihchun [~chihchun@n201.enc.hlc.edu.tw] has joined #debian
23:01<eightyeight>i only know it's kicked these off, because i have a cron script that executes the number of apache and mysql processes every minute, and i watch the number climb
23:02<eightyeight>i've even set limits of no. of pids in /etc/security/limits.conf, and nothing...
23:09-!-Unmenschlich [~steven@p4FCDF7D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
23:10-!-TIBS01 [TIBS01@92.7.166.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:10-!-TIBS01 [TIBS01@92.7.166.148] has joined #debian
23:12-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
23:13-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.76.183] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:13-!-Unmensch [~steven@p4FCDFA5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:18-!-tsoliman [~tsoliman@rrcs-98-100-164-31.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
23:19<tsoliman>Hi all, I have a problem building alsa-source .. it says /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/alsa-autoconf.h:8:28: fatal error: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
23:20<sney>are you building it with module-assistant?
23:20<tsoliman>yes
23:20<sney>did you run m-a prepare?
23:20<tsoliman>yes
23:20-!-rohs [~rohs@172.Red-81-35-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
23:21<sney>hmm
23:21<tsoliman>it is unmodified on a stock kernel 2.6.38-2-686
23:21<sney>can you try outputting a whole error log
23:21<tsoliman>yes
23:22-!-jeflui [~jeflui@187-27-82-105.3g.claro.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:23-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@110.77.242.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:23<tsoliman>sney: build log http://pastebin.com/AxqMHt85
23:23-!-reklipz [~nmschulte@ip72-206-102-29.om.om.cox.net] has joined #debian
23:24<tsoliman>sney: note line 45
23:24-!-th_ [~Administr@182.10.127.17] has joined #debian
23:25<sney>the only time I've seen this before was with a custom kernel
23:25<sney>try just symlinking that autoconf.h to where it's looking
23:26<tsoliman>http://pastebin.com/CvPWezH7
23:26<tsoliman>that's where the problem is .. it thinks CONFIG_HAVE_GENERATED_AUTOCONF_H is not defined
23:26<tsoliman>even though it is !!
23:28-!-th [~Administr@182.5.200.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:28<tsoliman>nevermind it isnt
23:29-!-th [~Administr@182.2.77.7] has joined #debian
23:29<tsoliman>include/config.h : http://pastebin.com/Atph82uZ
23:32-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@110.77.242.181] has joined #debian
23:32<tsoliman>sney: I think the configure script is broken, it clearly shows in the build log that it says "no" to the deprecated linux/autoconf.h and says yes to the correct one yet the config.h says the opposite
23:32-!-th__ [~Administr@182.5.34.194] has joined #debian
23:33-!-th [~Administr@182.2.77.7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:33-!-inix1 [~inix@p5B02457C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
23:34-!-ravenbird [simon@70.35.163.227] has quit [Quit: Nmu'ltes]
23:34-!-ravenbird [simon@70.35.163.227] has joined #debian
23:35-!-Craighton [~craighton@75-172-105-201.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #debian
23:35-!-dimonov [~dimonov@CPE0026f39658d8-CM0026f39658d5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:35-!-th_ [~Administr@182.10.127.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:36-!-inix [~inix@p5B0240D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:36-!-ravenbird [simon@70.35.163.227] has quit []
23:37-!-dimonov [~dimonov@CPE0026f39658d8-CM0026f39658d5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #debian
23:40<tsoliman>so I hacked the .h file to be where it wants it
23:42<tsoliman>sney: it still won't build after I fixed the .h reference .. full log http://pastebin.com/Maw7fb3y
23:42-!-zeroedout [~quassel@S01060080c6fcfaab.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:43-!-ravenbird [simon@70.35.163.227] has joined #debian
23:43-!-zeroedout [~quassel@S01060080c6fcfaab.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
23:43-!-dvs [~me@206.248.136.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:45-!-aratorny [~aratorny@189.110.12.123] has joined #debian
23:45<aratorny>hello
23:45<aratorny>.udpflood
23:45-!-gezgin [~gezgin@85.107.44.174] has quit [Quit: gezgin]
23:46-!-alephnull [~alok@122.172.10.87] has joined #debian
23:47-!-th [~Administr@182.5.34.194] has joined #debian
23:47-!-byonk [~byonk@114-32-5-66.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
23:48<aratorny>Algum br
23:48<aratorny>?
23:49-!-chitchat [~guest@ppp59-167-188-93.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:50-!-gezgin [~gezgin@85.107.44.174] has joined #debian
23:51<tsoliman>!english
23:51<dpkg>English as a language (and other uses) has plenty of background on wikipedia, however for #debian support, it's the primary and best supported language here. Please use other specific language channels (even if they're very idle), a related mailing list, or your best English here anyway (we'll try to cope).
23:53<aratorny>!
23:53<aratorny>!portuguese
23:53<aratorny>!english
23:53-!-th__ [~Administr@182.5.34.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:53<aratorny>ping
23:53-!-dimonov [~dimonov@CPE0026f39658d8-CM0026f39658d5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:53<tsoliman>!portuguese
23:53<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
23:54-!-dimonov [~dimonov@CPE0026f39658d8-CM0026f39658d5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #debian
23:54-!-tensorpudding [~user@99.148.205.193] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:54-!-Pitxyoki [~PT-SC-257@a85-138-125-29.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: Pitxyoki]
23:55-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.4.48.135] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
23:56-!-stderr_dk [~pohol@0x55517066.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
---Logclosed Wed Apr 06 00:00:29 2011