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00:00<randall_>thank you!
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00:08<mcguirk>Hey folks
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00:10<mcguirk>Anyone familiar with GNOME's policykit? I think I messed up the permissions somehow.
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00:53<sylar>what can I do if sync doesn't return?
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00:54<sylar>sney, yea sync
00:55<sney>well if someone was helping you with a debian problem, usually other people here can help as well unless it's a very weird problem
00:55<sney>and sometimes even then
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01:04<jm_>perhaps you should check if kernel reported anything, other things to check are disk activity
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01:29<Ae|>whois Ae|
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01:35<sortadi>hi there
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01:38<finn>hello. A friend of mine installed Debian yesterday and cannot seem to get it to connect to the internet.
01:38<finn>is there a build in network manager?
01:38<finn>other than ifconfig
01:38<sortadi>I have just set up a new Debian Linux machine, Asus Crosshair IV Formula MoBo, AMD Phenom II X6 CPU, using Linux 2.6.38-AMD64. I plugged in my former Ralink RT2500 PCI Wireless card, which was working (with some power management issues, but still working) under another PC using i386, but now this same NIC is not working under my new hardware. It's recognized, it loads the kernel module, but it won't scan with iwlist nor with wicd. The dmesg log says, for
01:38<sortadi> the ID of the PCI device generated by the NIC, "unsupported pm cap regs 7"
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01:39<finn>oh also I'm relaying things to him via text message and Jabber on his iPod touch
01:39<finn>as he can't get online
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01:43<jm_>finn: you mean built-in network maanger?
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01:45<finn>or just really anything to get him online enough to install packages
01:46<finn>like a GUI network manager
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01:46<finn>currently he has an ethernet connection, but eventually he'd like a wireless connection
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01:47<jm_>finn: well there's, surprise, network manager :)
01:47<jm_>!network manager
01:47<dpkg>NetworkManager is a network management framework daemon. See /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian for setup instructions and ask me about <nm squeeze>. #nm on See also <wireless connection managers>.
01:48<jm_>as for wireless - find out which chipset he has
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01:49<finn>yeah I am aware of it, but it doesn't appear be on his computer
01:49<finn>and he can't install it without a network connection (AFAIK)
01:49<jm_>yeah depending on what was installed it might not be
01:49<jm_>didn't you say he has ethernet connection?
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01:49<finn>he has a wire going from his computer to the router
01:49<finn>but he can't get connected
01:50<finn>he can't get DHCP to assign him an IP
01:50<jm_>ok, that shall be easy - so router handles internet connection he only needs to get an IP
01:50<finn>and when he gave himself one he still could not get out
01:50<jm_>didn't installer ask him if he wants to configure it with dhcp?
01:50<finn>although he could connect internally
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01:51<finn>I don't know
01:51<finn>oh right
01:51<finn>he didn't have the ethernet cord at the time
01:51<jm_>right, edit /etc/network/interfaces
01:51<jm_>put in these two lines:
01:51<jm_>auto eth0
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01:51<jm_>iface eth0 inet dhcp
01:51<costas>for wifi support the easy solution (if you have a windblowz past) is ndiswrapper...
01:51<jm_>then do ifup eth0
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01:52<home-alone>hi ! how stable is software center for debian
01:53<costas>home-alone, I just use apt-get or aptitude...
01:53<finn>I believe we already tried that
01:53<finn>but I'm having him do it again
01:53<costas>finn, ok understood
01:53<finn>costas: No windows past. Came with Ubuntu
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01:54<costas>use debian, current Ubuntu version sucks -too much hassle with compiling alsa etc...
01:55<home-alone>but apt-get is only for apps i already know
01:55<costas>try synaptic home-alone
01:55<costas>the easy way to learn more about packages...
01:56<costas>update your sources.list at /etc/apt/sources.list and you're set to go
01:56<finn>ok he did all the thing in /etc/network/interfaces
01:56<finn>didn't work
01:56<finn>didn't do anything
01:57<costas>finn, are you sure the wifi driver supports your hardware?
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01:57<costas>start there...
01:57<finn>costas: we're just trying to get wired at the moment
01:58<finn>although WiFi worked on Ubuntu
01:58<finn>so I presume so
01:58<costas>make sure to update sources.list finn and get the latest related packages...
01:59<costas>in debian fora there are the latest squeeze sources
01:59<costas>including testing for weird laptops and desktops... (that's how I fixed the nopointer thing in mine)
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02:00<costas>on a friend's laptop I had to use ndiswrapper because his hardware wasn't supported...
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02:03<jm_>!doesn't work
02:03<dpkg>Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>.
02:04<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <killswitch>, <wpa>, <wlan howto>.
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02:05<jm_>so you'll need to provide more details - what does '/sbin/ifconfig' say, what does kernel say (dmesg)? is ethernet link status OK?
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02:06<finn>ok hold on
02:07<finn>what are you looking for specifically from either of those two? it'd rather not have him enter the whole thing on his iPod touch
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02:07<finn>and by "doesn't work" i mean doesn't get online
02:08<finn>When Firefox is opened and is entered into the address bar Google does not show up
02:10<home-alone>what if i search an app using software center and install it by apt-get
02:10<costas>home-alone, you'll be fine, just make sure the package name is correct, ie apt-get install fluxbox
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02:11<home-alone>as i noticed apt-get is much faster than software center
02:12<costas>finn, read the wifi above and use the related wikis to set up your wifi correctly, identify your chipset correctly and set it up via your preferred network manager app, easy...
02:12<costas>home-alone, that's why we use it...
02:12<finn>costas: no internet connect, can't get my preferred network manager, or any network manager
02:13<costas>no dhcp (it is commonly identified automatically on debian install)??
02:13<finn>do you think that if I use a program like aptoncd on my ubuntu machine to package up networkmanager and the dependencies, then gave him the output he would be able to install one?
02:13<finn>and no, no dhcp. read above
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02:16<_roach>hi, someone can help me? I try to give su - Userjboss, and when I do, the variables are not there, the homepath of the Userjboss is: /usr/local/Userjboss, some idea? I need export JAVA_HOME and PATH
02:16<jm_>finn: IP, also run route -n and check if default gateway is set
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02:18<jm_>finn: it's possible he just needs to configure DNS
02:18<finn>how would he go about doing that?
02:18<finn>i had him add "nameserver" to /etc/resolv.conf
02:18<finn>didn't help
02:19<jm_>first check if default GW is set
02:20<jm_>(UG flag will identify it)
02:20<costas>finn, you're sure the chipset in question works? start there and let network manager autoconfigure the rest...
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02:21<alexandre_>hi, someone can help me? I try to give su - Userjboss, and when I do, the variables are not there, the homepath of the Userjboss is: /usr/local/Userjboss, some idea? I need export JAVA_HOME and PATH
02:21<finn>jm_: how would he said the default gateway?
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02:22<jm_>finn: set? DHCP should do this for him, but if it doesn't, it can be set with the route command: route add default gw
02:22<jm_>where is the right IP
02:22<jm_>(read router's)
02:22<costas>jm_, is right...
02:22<jm_>but it's probably set already
02:22<finn>DCHP doesn't seem to be working
02:22<finn>he isn't showing up in the DCHP client table on the router
02:23<jm_>check the logs - dhcp clients will typically log when they send a request etc.
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02:23<finn>the router logs?
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02:24<jm_>well first the debian machine
02:25<finn>oh wait... where would that be?
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02:26<jm_>yeah, possibly syslog or daemon.log
02:27<jm_>perhaps try grep -i dhcp *
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02:27<finn>huh... he says he rebooted and it said something about trying to use DHCP...
02:28<finn>then No dhcp offers found
02:28<jm_>right, so perhaps now is time to check link status and things on the router
02:29<finn>I assume he's done that but I'll have him check
02:29<finn>(I hope he's done that)
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02:30<jm_>ethtool eth0 if he has the command installed, otherwise unplug the cable and plut it back in and run dmesg - most drivers will print the status there
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02:31<finn>ah that would do it
02:31<finn>the end attached to the router came unplugged
02:32<ompaul>finn: would you believe if the computer network cable gets unplugged the network stops working ... silly network ;-)
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02:33<finn>oh wow he's online
02:34<finn>thanks for your help
02:34<harii>i have a problem with the input method
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02:34<harii>i selected latinoamerica in the installation
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02:35<harii>but now i dont know witch method i have
02:36<jm_>you mean keyboard layout?
02:36<harii>amm no
02:36<harii>i m new on linux
02:37<harii>my keyboard is totally desconfigured
02:37<jm_>that sounds like you want a different layout to me
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02:38<harii>do you know how configure it ?
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02:39<dpkg>Squeeze users: Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your console and X keymap. Lenny users: Run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" to change the console keymap (use loadkeys for temporary adjustments) -- to change the X keymap, read "man xmodmap" and ask me about <xorg config lenny>; gnome-control-center and kcontrol can also be used. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
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02:56<costas>!beer dpkg
02:56*dpkg pours a pint of Piraat for dpkg
02:56<th>hi, i'm using xmonad in debian squeeze. i want to use Menu key as mod key. i have used xmodmap to add Mod3=Menu and modMask = mod3Mask in xmonad.hs. the key works as xmonad mod key. the problem is the key also send a character to the current active window, for example if i'm in urxvt it results in "~" and a beep sound. how can i get rid of this?
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02:58<costas>change key to another one perhaps?
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03:02<th>i would take that route as the last resort. before using menu key, win key is assigned as xmonad mod key and it works flawlessly. the reason i want to use menu key as the xmonad mod key is so i can freely use win key for my own hotkey
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03:05<costas>your problem is simple, another program is using that key or it's a system reserved shortcut key, that's why I suggested the easy solution...
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03:06<jm_>th: what do you want it to do (the menu key)?
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03:07<th>just as xmonad mod key, not sending a character
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03:08<th>at the moment, whenever i press menu key in this terminal or any other terminal, my terminal will beep and "~" appears
03:08<costas>yes, but you need to avoid the PRIMARY use of ~ which is typing ~,use a Function key instead
03:08<jm_>you can redefeine it in urxvt, but i don't think it has the option to do "nothing"
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03:09<th>if i press menu key in iceweasel, the context menu will appear
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03:09<th>it's not just in urxvt
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03:10<costas>th: you're 10 years old and messing with us aint' you?
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03:10<jm_>in that case what costas said is probably the way to go if xmonad supports it
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03:11<th>ok thanks, jm_ and costas
03:11<th>costas, yes, i am a 10 years old debian user
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03:11<costas>hahahaha, no beer for you then
03:11<costas>!beer jm_
03:11*dpkg pours a pint of Spaten Optimator for jm_
03:11<th>but no, i'm not messing with you
03:11<ldsas>hi. can anyone tell me the solution for empathy?
03:12<ldsas>installing empathy on debian 6.0.1
03:12<ldsas>I've got so far through it and have problems with plugins-bad
03:12<inkbottle>How should I understand package "hurd" seems available on debian package web page, though it isn't available from
03:12<ldsas>I wish i had logged what i was doing properly... i know i can go back to log files if necessary for someone to help
03:13<costas>ldsas, what are the problems with plugins-bad?
03:13<costas>simply use apt-get remove to get rid of it and reinstall it...
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03:14<ldsas>i think i had to force something on for gstreamer bad, good and ugly to go together... either configure or an install
03:14<costas>do a apt-get clean too
03:14<jm_>inkbottle: it's only in sid for hurd-i386 arch, and available as a source package
03:14<ldsas>but essentially now it's coming down to removing kde for the jackd server.
03:15<inkbottle>jm_: ok
03:15<ldsas>i started doing it cause my usb sound dosn't really work most of the time anyway
03:15<costas>ldsas, everything can be fixed in debian, but you have to documet your changes...
03:15<ldsas>am working on building a depenacy tool
03:16<ldsas>that should help. i'd image i'll have uninstall and reinstall a few times but it should help a lot ....
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03:17<costas>ldsas, you got all sources right to get recent packages right?
03:18<ldsas>yeah... the past week and a half been working on fixing it... been interest, a little amusing and some some time a little wrong but anyway
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03:19<ldsas>for the first couple of days i wouldn't even shut the machine lol
03:19<costas>well, I had no pointer last week but I got a full page of sources and everything works now...
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03:19<ldsas>and i'm running the old kernel not the new one... no time to even think about looking at that yet
03:20<costas>new kernel rocks, you should upgrade...
03:20<ldsas>nah, i like to use the normal terminals rather than x sometimes and it's made it flash strangle...
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03:21<costas>I'm using just fluxbox...
03:21<ldsas>actually i don't think it's the original lenny kernel but one after that built from source
03:21<ldsas>can't remember now why i did it
03:22<costas>ldsas, that might be the problem, you can't get updated packages with custom kernels...
03:22<ldsas>think i wanted some kernel module a bit different and just got the latest source for it or someting
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03:22<ldsas>oh ok
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03:23<costas>that sounds right, but if your sources.list isn't current you miss for example the latest kernel module that might do the job for ya
03:23<ldsas>are you sure?
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03:24<ldsas>i got dbus problems too which i need to get back to... was hoping to get empathy installed ok. I think i probably will
03:24<costas>yep, most problems arise if you don't have recent packages installed on a stable debian system
03:25<costas>empathy works fine in debian 6.0.1
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03:25<costas>just backup and go for a fresh install to avoid problems...
03:26<ldsas>it did break half way through i must admit... and i havn't worked out nearly enough yet...
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03:26<ldsas>i am still trying to work out the packaging system for example.
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03:27<ldsas>but just avoiding most of it and doing it fairly manually
03:27<costas>ldsas, for newbies I suggest synaptic... easy to use and full package information...
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03:28<ldsas>ok. thanks dude
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03:28<ldsas>costas, just outa curiosity do you work for debian?
03:28<costas>I've been using debian since late 1994
03:29<costas>I do tech support for linux, windows and mac systems...
03:29<ldsas>do you contribute in any way?
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03:29<costas>don't have time to program nowadays,
03:29<ldsas>are there any debian staff on?
03:30<costas>where here? dunno
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03:30<ldsas>I probably just send bugs direct i guess.... thanks. see ya
03:30<costas>bye bye now ldsas
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03:31<costas>hello coco
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03:32<costas>heads up: to get update squeeze sources try here:
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03:36<rpetre>i asked this a while ago, but i'm tryong again: other than which looks unmaintained is there other not-so-unofficial evaluation of testing's current "breakiness"?
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04:11<costas>!beer dpkg
04:11*dpkg pours a quart of Gulden Drak for dpkg
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04:39<EmleyMoo1>How can I save the settings of the mixer for my headset so that they are restored automatically next time I plug it in? (USB)
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04:40<dpkg>ALSA is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, a project providing device drivers for sound cards. To install, ask me about <install alsa>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <alsa versions>, <alsaconf>, <default alsa>. #alsa on
04:41<costas>EmleyMoo1, check your mixer...
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04:45<EmleyMoo1>costas: I did. No "Save"
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04:49<guillaume>Hi all
04:51<costas>EmleyMoor, after setting the mixer... try alsactl store
04:51<costas>hello guillaume
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04:59<guillaume>I have some trouble with a module compiled with m-a, the syslog tell me : "kernel module version mismatch!"
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04:59<guillaume>May be a bad kernel headers uses ?
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05:03<SynrG>guillaume: first of all, dkms is superior. second, you haven't yet given any details (uname -r, package version#s, names, etc.)
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05:05<guillaume>Okay, I use a custom kernel 2.6.38-2, with grsec and drbd, I used this version of the source package version (
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05:07<guillaume>and the module is for iscsitarget
05:08<guillaume>the userland package I used is the version
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05:10<SynrG>there is a dkms package for iscsitarget ...
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05:10<guillaume>SynrG: yes but it's bugged
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05:11<guillaume>May be the repository was update
05:11<SynrG>as for using m-a with custom kernels, i have not done that. but i suppose it's possible
05:11<SynrG>you've made a custom headers package to match your kernel?
05:12<guillaume>I've installed the right headers, and used m-a with other module
05:12<SynrG>make-kpkg or something?
05:12<guillaume>make-kpkg kernel_headers
05:12<guillaume>yep I did it :)
05:13<guillaume>and of course dpkg -i ....
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05:14<SynrG>you sure there isn't some other version of the module lying around that depmod pulled in?
05:14<costas>guillaume, kernel mismatch means the module you're building doesn't match your kernel...
05:14<costas>check again...
05:14<guillaume>costas: I checked from last evening...
05:14<guillaume>how can I checked cleary with version is pulled with depmod ?
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05:15<guillaume>modprod or whatever
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05:15<costas>it's modprobe
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05:16<guillaume>sorry :)
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05:17<costas>you probably goofed while building your custom kernel... custom kernels need reading about building specific modules, and no automatic updates, not recomended... really
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05:19<costas>nevertheless, check Laurens73 sources.list here:
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05:20<guillaume>costas: ?
05:20<guillaume>costas: I used debian for awhile...
05:20<costas>yeah me too since 1994...
05:21<guillaume>costas: I don't understand why you show me how to fill a correct source.list
05:21<guillaume>I used a extra source, because the package I got from the official repository was bugged
05:22<guillaume>I tested It
05:22<guillaume>and bug report was done
05:22<guillaume>and closed
05:22<guillaume>I waiting for the release package
05:22<guillaume>but I need to test ...
05:22<costas>go stable, that means do not use testing packages unless you really needed, building modules for custom kernels means you know what you're doing,
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05:22<guillaume>I know i'm doing, I need grsec on my server...
05:22<guillaume>and some other module
05:23<costas>guillaume, ok then, dive into your INSTALL modules texts and experiment man...
05:23<costas>good luck.
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05:24<guillaume>thx for your priceless help
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05:48<mehdi_>wat is the device for wireless?
05:49<guillaume>wlan0 ?
05:49<costas>guillaume, once you rtfm and learn what is a module version you'll be ok...
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05:50<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <killswitch>, <wpa>, <wlan howto>.
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05:51<guillaume>costas: I RTFM ... This is the only thing I do from couple of days. I'm on the IRC's channel, because I did'nt find my answers on the TFM
05:55<costas>guillaume, try resolving the mismatch by removing the module in question, then compile it again carefully using proper sources... that's all
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05:57<mercutio22>uh oh... I was playing around in soundmixer and I selected all the boxes in the switches guide. Sound died. Unselecting them won't bring audio back
05:57<mercutio22>I have 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
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05:58<costas>mercutio22, last resort, uninstall alsa, reinstall and then you'd be fine
05:58<guillaume>And, my question is, how can I remove the module ? Because modprobe -r, juste disable it, but source are already built and dkms tell me it do not replace the current module because it's correclty compiled with the right header
05:58<mercutio22>costas: alright.. lemme try
06:00<costas>guillaume,read here:
06:01<mercutio22>costas: worked =]
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06:02<mehdi_>how can i change my wlan channel?
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06:05<mercutio22>mehdi_: on the router web interface.
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06:12<mehdi_>how can i get to router web interface?
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06:12<jm_>guillaume: remove module from wher?
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06:15<guillaume>jm_: from the system
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06:15<guillaume>But I succes, with dpkg -r and aptitude
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06:16<guillaume>I built again the source with dkms but same thing... kernel module version mismatch
06:16<mercutio22>mehdi_: read the manual. Normaly its either or
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06:18<jm_>guillaume: what does modinfo say for it?
06:19<guillaume>I copy/past you the output ?
06:20<guillaume>But all seems to be good
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06:20<guillaume>filename: /lib/modules/
06:21<guillaume>humm.. In deed, the version doesn't seems to be good..
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06:24<guillaume>Okay I think the problem is from here..
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06:24<guillaume>Indeed, my way used to build the module has to be wrong
06:25<guillaume>I fetch a .deb on iscsitarget developper corner,
06:25<guillaume>I install It
06:25<guillaume>with dpkg -i
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06:25<guillaume>and run m-a build iscsitarget-source...
06:26<guillaume>So, m-a goes to fetch the source in the repository no ? And my problem has to come from here
06:26<guillaume>How can I run the build with specific source ?
06:26<guillaume>Sources from a deb file
06:26<jm_>it tries to update it first yes
06:28<guillaume>humm same version installed..
06:29<guillaume> but the .deb I get (
06:30<pecenipicek>anyone know the name of the CLI initscript management proggie?
06:31<jm_>pecenipicek: update-rc.d? but no, not anyone knows it
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06:31<pecenipicek>no, not that. there was this little program that i forgot the name of that i found a few days ago...
06:32<pecenipicek>or rather, can i check with it what is listed to run under the various initscripts?
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06:35<Sicelo>just quick dumb question: where can i find list of packages included the install dvd for squeeze?
06:35<jm_>!cd contents
06:35<dpkg>To find out what is on what disk, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at (e.g.
06:35<jm_>Sicelo: ^^^^
06:36<jm_>sysv-rc-conf maybe
06:36<pecenipicek>i love it how this channel has preconfigured stuff for things that are asked A LOT :p
06:37<SynrG>jm_: interesting. the faq and factoid are at variance with each other
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06:37<SynrG>both equally valid ways, i'm sure
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06:37<petemc>this is also useful
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06:37<pecenipicek>oh hell yes, the sysv-rc-conf is the thing i'm looking for :D
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06:37<jm_>SynrG: I think factoid also mentioned jigdo files in the past
06:40<pecenipicek>what is the "S" runlevel that sysv-rc-conf exposes?
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06:40*pecenipicek goes off to read the manpages...
06:40<cthuluh>pecenipicek: man init
06:41<pecenipicek>ah :D
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06:43<pecenipicek>hokay. now on to my problem, neither my asterisk instance nor the mysql server i got on the box start at boot.
06:44<pecenipicek>asterisk was compiled from source, but mysql was installed from the repository.
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06:44<pecenipicek>i quite literally didnt touch anything in its setting, except enabling the network connections in my.cnf
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06:45<pecenipicek>(changed the bind-address from to the local network address of the machine)
06:46<Sicelo>thanks jm_
06:46<Sicelo>sorry for delay too
06:47<jm_>Sicelo: no worries
06:49<pecenipicek>its almost like the start-stop-daemon utility up and downright died.
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06:52<cthuluh>pecenipicek: check the logs
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06:57<pecenipicek>apparently it didnt start on boot due to dhcp being slow as all hell...
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06:58<cthuluh>pecenipicek: use static addressing
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06:58<pecenipicek>actually... hmmm.
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06:59<pecenipicek>fun part? it all worked very well yesterday -.-
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07:00<cthuluh>a server shouldn't depend on dhcp, imho
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07:01<pecenipicek>it will be switched to static addressing once its installed. i just prefer having it via DHCP while its on the local network...
07:01<pecenipicek>much more fun is the fact that there is no mention of the asterisk service being started -.-
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07:22<kyla>anyone know of an privlaged identity manager in debian
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07:23<kyla>i have a lot of server with a lot of root passowrds etc and wish to control who has acsess to them
07:24<kyla>something like cyberark's entirpirse password vault but just
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07:25<pecenipicek>cthuluh: ok, so i've changed to static addressing for the server. lets see if the situation changes
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07:28<pecenipicek>mysql is up.
07:28<pecenipicek>but asterisk is strangely missing -.-
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07:32<pecenipicek>okay, solved that as well.
07:32<pecenipicek>had the asterisk run as a correct user, but i put in the wrong group for that user.
07:33<pecenipicek>now i can finally get on with configuring it.
07:33<pecenipicek>as a side question, permanent aliases go into bashrc?
07:33<dpkg>~/.bashrc is where you put all your aliases and functions. It's read at start-up time by all interactive non-login shells. To make sure it's read by a login shell, put "source ~/.bashrc" at the end of ~/.bash_profile, or just remove the comment that is placed before the already typed include line that Debian's ~/.bash_profile has by default. Ask me about <bash eternal history>.
07:33<pecenipicek>thank you :=)
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07:39<pecenipicek>woo. alias defined.
07:39<pecenipicek>god i suck at this low-level stuff :D
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07:57<devil>kyla: i use keepassx, does all i need.
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07:59<nevyn>low level? srsly?
07:59<nevyn>kyla: I'm buying enterprise vault for that problem
07:59<nevyn>also for the policy managers :(
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08:00<pecenipicek>nevyn: well, low-level administration stuff. not exactly educated for those matters :p
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08:00<nevyn>kyla: the choice was that or some ott RBAC horror
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08:01<nevyn>kyla: when I was at $PREVIOUSJOB they had a bespoke thing based on gpg keys and text fieles
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08:03<kyla>i looked at keppassx but I dont think it will be appropirate
08:04<kyla>the gpg keys will prob not work
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08:04<devil>hm, never had those in there
08:05<kyla>nevyn: are you buying cyber ark entirpirse vault or a diffrient one
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08:07<nevyn>kyla: cyber ark enterprise vault.
08:08<nevyn>kyla: umm there were some other options particularly in the US
08:08<kyla>i dont like fact that cyber ark doenst even have a demo app
08:09<kyla>security by obscureity as so forth
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08:10<nevyn>the design doesn't suck. but it is "this is a unique snowflake" but this is totally OT here.
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08:43<Silicium01>Can someone help me figure out why I can not mount Blockbuster DVDs on my squeeze please?
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08:44<babilen>Silicium01: Stab in the dark: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed? -- If yes, you need to provide more information. What errors do you get? How are you trying to mount/play them? Does this only happen with Blockbuster DVDs are every movie DVD or does your DVD drive not work at all?
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08:45<c0nsense>hey! i have a debian server with 3 directories, /home/web/,, but the websites have a directory called EMK for example: /home/web/ and i want add a user that JUST can access the folder EMK for site1, site2 and site3, any ideas?
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08:45<babilen>c0nsense: Please, don't cross-post. What are you actually trying to achieve?
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08:46<Silicium01>babilen, I have libdvdcss2 installed. I'm just putting the dvd in. It spins then stops then repeats and nothing happens. I can not even eject it after that when I press the eject button. It's not even mounting
08:46<babilen>Silicium01: And if you try to play it with, for example, vlc it does not work? Do you get any errors when you try? Might be some DRM something -- Can you play other (movie) DVDs?
08:47<c0nsense>babilen: add a user that just can access folder "emk" of all web site that are hosted on this server.. /home/web/
08:47<Silicium01>babilen, I can not get to that step, the dvd is not mounted or read at all, I can not access it
08:47<babilen>c0nsense: Why?
08:47<babilen>Silicium01: Hmm, can you play other DVDs?
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08:48<Silicium01>babilen, yes, the ones that I recorded
08:48<Silicium01>babilen, for example, I burned squeeze dvd and can mount and view content
08:48<babilen>Silicium01: But not, for example, some you bought ... Just trying to pin down your problem. :)
08:48<c0nsense>babilen: because this user can't see nothing of web site, just can edit files, create directories, and other things just on emk folder.
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08:48<Silicium01>babilen, I have not bought any, not sure if they would play
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08:49<babilen>Silicium01: Yes, that is completely unrelated to movie DVDs .. They are not mounted -- Can you try to play it with vlc?
08:49<themill>Silicium01: is the dvd badly scratched? Or a disc that is incompatible with your hardware?
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08:49<Silicium01>babilen, no it won't play, it's not mounted
08:49<Silicium01>themill, I tried 3 different ones, they all do the same thing
08:49<graphox>i have a problem with aptitude. kwin crashed during a safe-upgrade and my terminal is closed. How can i get back the aptitude process ?
08:50<babilen>Silicium01: So if you try to play it (CTRL-D → DVD → /dev/sr0 (or whatever is appropriate)) it does not play and you do not get any error?
08:50<babilen>Silicium01: But all of them are from Blockbuster?
08:51<Silicium01>babilen, yes it will not play. All of them are from blockbuster
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08:51<graphox>Here the process i want to take back the control :
08:51<babilen>Silicium01: Please run vlc from the command line and report any errors you get when you do that ... I'll be back in a minute :)
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08:52<jm_>graphox: sometimes retty works, was aptitude still downloading packages?
08:52<grummund>Hi, dpkg-query -l '*dhcp*' lists packages which are not installed... how does one restrict the list to only installed packages?
08:53<graphox>jm_: i had a prompt when it crashed, so aptitude is not installing the packages
08:53<jm_>graphox: what prompt?
08:53<Silicium01>babilen, themill, the dmesg shows this:
08:53<Silicium01>you can see the loop in there
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08:54<graphox>jm_: there was only « OK », it said that the new kernel needs some drivers who weren't installed (wifi)
08:55<Silicium01>babilen, this is vlc:
08:55<themill>grummund: aptitude search '~ndhcp~i'
08:55<jm_>graphox: ok, so it was probably configuring packages or some such, you can try retty or if that doesn't work, simply kill it and proceed in another terminal (hint - run it in screen next time)
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08:56<graphox>how does work retty ?
08:56<graphox>(i think i'll use screen the next time :d)
08:57<grummund>themill: thanks that works. is there any way to do that with dpkg/apt-get alone ?
08:57<graphox>i think retty is not installed on my computer
08:58<themill>grummund: "dpkg -l '*dhcp*' | grep ^.i", but aptitude is much more powerful in what it can do; /msg dpkg aptitude search
08:58<grummund>themill: ok thanks
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09:01<babilen>Silicium01: Could it be related to the DVD region? You can check the region (and set it if wanted -- don't do that yet) with the "regionset" tool -- Install it and read /usr/share/doc/regionset/README.
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09:02<Silicium01>babilen, already did that and region is set correctly to 1
09:02<Silicium01>babilen, I'm in Canada
09:02<babilen>Silicium01: After you've read that run it (regionset /path/to/your/dvd/drive) and paste the output
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09:03<babilen>Silicium01: Well, you get I/O errors, which might be due to some DRM mechanism on the discs ...
09:03<Silicium01>So that's it then?
09:04<babilen>Silicium01: I don't know -- Are you sure that the region is set correctly? I would also strongly recommend to try other (bought) DVDs
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09:04<Silicium01>babilen, I checked with regionset tool and it said it was set to 1 and 1 is North America
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09:05<babilen>Silicium01: And I guess the DVDs are region 1 as well, or?
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09:05<Silicium01>babilen, I don't know, they should be I rented them here in Canada
09:05<babilen>Silicium01: You might want to take this to #videolan as I've run out of ideas :)
09:06<Silicium01>babilen, okm thank you for trying :)
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09:08<babilen>Silicium01: Ah, #videolan is on
09:09<Silicium01>babilen, yep, connected there, thanks for the tip
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09:16<marga>SynrG: I had answer pending for you: it worked using bindfs. Thanks a lot for pointing me in that direction.
09:17<SynrG>marga: hey, cool. glad i could help
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09:30<unixabg>SynrG: how is the best way to add mythes-en-us to squeeze libreoffice?
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09:49<unixabg>SynrG: maybe a better questions would be best way to pinn a specific package from testing on a squeez install?
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09:50<SynrG>generally, mixing stable + testing/unstable is not recommended ...
09:50<SynrG>that's what backports is for
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09:51<unixabg>ok, I will examine that.
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09:51<unixabg>SynrG: thanks
09:52<SynrG>of course, there's no guarantees any particular package is already in backports ...
09:52<nevyn>generally mixing stable and testing/unstable results testing
09:52<SynrG>you might request one, though
09:52<nevyn>or unstable
09:52<vorteks>Hello :) congrats on the new debian install system! all automatic.
09:53*nevyn acts all curmudgeonly and says you're all spoilt by filesystems that work out how many inodes to make automatically
09:53<vorteks>One question though I cant get my dsl connction going. I tried every thing
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09:54<vorteks>Debian used to work but now it wont :(
09:54<vorteks>Can any1 recomend a site?
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09:54<castor>oii gentee
09:55<castor>Oiii ??
09:56<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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09:56<vorteks>nice nick ;)
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09:59<SynrG>vorteks: insufficient info provided
09:59<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:00<SynrG>hmm. that's not the factoid i wanted
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10:00<SynrG>smart questions, probably
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10:02<vorteks>Im running squeeze debian, and i cant get a dsl conection. networkmanager dont work
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10:03<SynrG>vorteks: better. does it say "not managed"?
10:04<SynrG>any interface used to do the install is added to /etc/network/interfaces. any interface listed there is deliberately ignored by NetworkManager.
10:04<vorteks>im in xp now
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10:05<SynrG>i'm betting it does indeed say "not managed" and you didn't notice
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10:06<vorteks>no dsl modem that store mt login/password
10:06<themill>SynrG: doesn't the n-m maintainer script comment out everything in /e/n/interfaces so that it will be managed?
10:06<SynrG>it misses wireless
10:06<SynrG>because the wireless stanza doesn't match
10:06<SynrG>it has multiple lines, wireless-*
10:06<SynrG>the migration script considers this to be "manually configured" and refuses to touch it
10:07<vorteks>So is there a guide i can download that tells me step by step what to do :)?
10:07<SynrG>it only handles the simple case of any "auto" (or allow-hotplug) interfaces of the form "iface ifname inet dhcp"
10:08<pecenipicek>why oh why does anyone consider the abomination known as network manager as a good thing?
10:08<pecenipicek>its okay if you're in a gui enviroment i guess.
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10:08<vorteks>I licked the old days when debian just worked fine on the net :)
10:09<SynrG>it handles common connection scenarios, particularly in the case of wireless, with much less pain than the alternatives.
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10:09<SynrG>it's not a gui vs. commandline thing
10:09<pecenipicek>but try to go with a server style install (no gui, no X, standard headless server) and you're shit outta luck with the thrice damned thing.
10:09<SynrG>it's a user vs. sysop thing
10:10<vorteks>so is there some kinda guide work around out there?
10:10<SynrG>anyway -> #debian-offtopic (or /dev/null) for endless NM debates. we've had enough of it already on the debian-devel list lately :p
10:10<pecenipicek>well, unless i missed something crucial with it a while back (was playing with it on centos, with the vpnc-networkmanager proggie, or however its called)
10:11<pecenipicek>i wanted to say that unless i missed something very crucial with the network manager, there is NO way to control it from the CLI, amirite?
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10:12<pecenipicek>messing around with dbus or using a very dubious python app for it is not the right way to do it, imho.
10:12<SynrG>there's nmcli. comes with network-manager.
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10:13<pecenipicek>except it didnt really work, last time i tried to do anything with it.
10:13<SynrG>it's C
10:13<pecenipicek>or it might have been some centos idiocy.
10:13<pecenipicek>dont know anymore, nor do i care anymore.
10:13<SynrG>there's cnetworkmanager as well
10:14<pecenipicek>i am not 100% sure what exactly was the problem with it anymore, but it left a thoroughly sour taste in my mouth when i had to work with it
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10:15<SynrG>NM has that problem, yes. 0.6 fell down in a number of places. since 1.8 it has been much better.
10:15<SynrG>i happily support a handful of users on NM, while continuing to use ifupdown on my servers and wpasupplicant + wpa_cli on my own netbook
10:16<SynrG>different people. different needs.
10:16<SynrG>er, since 0.8, i mean
10:16<pecenipicek>its very possible that it was the problem of the old version.
10:16<SynrG>briefly flirted with wicd, but i found it clunky, and not as light as it claimed to be
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10:20<bzed>SynrG: when did you try it? give the versionin squeeze or a later one a chance
10:21<SynrG>bzed: what? wicd? oh, pre-release squeeze, yeah
10:21<SynrG>about the time NM 0.8 came on the scene
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10:22<SynrG>in any case, as i said, i'm mostly happy with wpa_cli + wpasupplicant. handles fast switching between networks as they zip by on the bus better than any other solution i've tried.
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10:24<SynrG>nor do i find sufficient benefits of wicd over NM to consider switching, as NM comes by default with GNOME, and the users i support who use it are on GNOME ...
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10:24<SynrG>so it's really the "path of least resistance"
10:24<bzed>SynrG: wicd comes with wicd-cli and wicd-ncurses..
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10:31<vikas>The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
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10:31<vorteks>how can i get deibians boot menu again? i had to install windows on my 2gig partition so i could connect to the net and talk to you
10:32<vorteks>now grub isnt there no more.
10:32<petemc>vorteks: /msg dpkg fixmbr
10:33<vikas>The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
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10:33<vikas>when i install from software center
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10:33<weedeater64>I keep see 'SEE ALSO X(7)' , but when I do man X, I get 'No manual entry for x' what gives ?
10:34<sney>man 7 X
10:34<weedeater64>Ya, tried that too. no joy.
10:34<sney>you're capitalizing it?
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10:35<weedeater64>caps, no caps, 7 no 7....
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10:35<vikas>how to install software without trust
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10:36<sney>weedeater64: looks like you're missing some -doc package then. it was probably a recommend.
10:37<sney>vikas: did you add a repository and now it's giving you that error? what repository did you add? most of the good 3rd party ones come with apt-key instructions
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10:38<themill>,file /usr/share/man/man7/X.7.gz
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10:38<judd>/usr/share/man/man7/X.7.gz in squeeze/i386: xorg-docs-core: usr/share/man/man7/X.7.gz
10:38<themill>weedeater64: ^^
10:38<kop>vikas: For a summary of additional repositories see below:
10:38<kop>!tell vikas about overview
10:38<vikas>i copy my all dvd in a folder edit sources.list
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10:40<sney>vikas: so you have the contents of all the debian dvds hosted locally? hmm.
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10:40<kop>vikas: You'd be better served (if you're going to do that) by dd-ing the dvds to your hard drive and the using "mount -o loop" to mount them and accessing them directly. Or at least that's an approach you might consider.
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10:41<weedeater64>got it, thanks.
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10:41<vikas>i can install software from terminal by answaring yes to install without verification
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10:42<vikas>but in software center it says Requires installation of untrusted packages
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10:43<sney>maybe the man page for synaptic can help you
10:43<kop>vikas: or the aptitude man page. It has a --allow-untrusted flag.
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10:47<vorteks>is this the only way ussing this guide? id rather be done with ms completely :)
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10:49<SynrG>bzed: it's not just a cli i need, but also rework of my somewhat odd connection/reconnection method. i'll give it some thought.
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10:50<vorteks>ahh supergrub may help
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10:51<SynrG>bzed: it needs to connect me to any nearest/strongest network, allow me to temporarily filter at a few keystrokes any "bad" networks i don't care to connect to and restore it back again when done, and there are really only seconds of time available to handle each network switch, and then my opportunity is gone.
10:51<weedeater64>Is there a quick way to install all docs for all packages I have ?
10:51<matttis>after upgrade to squeeze powersaving seems to crash my debian every once in a while
10:52<matttis>removing kpowersave and powersaved didnt work, they were not installed
10:52<SynrG>bzed: i have a well worn set of scripts/habits that make this work with wpasupplicant, but there are a small number of cases where it fails, and i'm uncertain as to what the cause is. (e.g. in the presence of some network signals, wpasupplicant sometimes seems to tank entirely, and wpa_cli can no loner contact it until i kill all wpasupp-related processes and restart fresh
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10:58<bschneider>did someone use Ipsec here ?
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10:59<vorteks>tanx for the info! :) and thanxs for making debian defualt install so greaat
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10:59<kristian>SynrG: hey
10:59<matttis>bschneider, in general: ask your question directly
10:59<bschneider>matttis: ok thank's
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11:02<bschneider>On a server I have many ipsec tunnel, I try to add one more he look to be up, but when I ping a ip adresse behind the tunnel the ping is outside of it and non inside
11:02<bschneider>any idear ?
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11:04<SynrG>it's a routing problem. next please. :)
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11:04<ballison>i have a dumb/newbie cvs question. When do I use "ci" versus "cvs commit" ?
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11:05<bschneider>SynrG: lol thanks It's what I think but I don't know where to go to see the problem
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11:05<bschneider>I try to use "route" but I didn't see any problem ..
11:06<SynrG>tcpdump to see where the packets are going?
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11:06<bschneider>SynrG: yes outside of the tunnel to the gateway of the server
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11:08<ballison>does anyone know when you are 'pose to use "ci filename" versus when to use "cvs commit" ?
11:08<Lantizia>Lo is there any reason I can make a virtualhost on apache point to a dir in /var or /usr but not to /opt ? (i just get forbidden for no reason)
11:09<ansgar>ballison: ci? Isn't that rcs?
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11:11<ballison>ansgar: yep - i confused the two
11:11<ballison>i should always use cvs commit
11:12<rpetre>ballison: i think cvs's files on the server can be manipulated wit rcs commands, but i don't think it's ok to do that
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11:14<ballison>rpetre: i did a ci of the file locally (causing it to vanish) when I really wanted to do is a "cvs commit" of it
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11:20<ballison>is there no easy command to type a hostname and get back an ip in debian WITHOUT calling sed/awk to get just the IP back from the results?
11:20<ballison>i just want a "getip" command
11:21<ballison>my problem is i can't rely on "host" because it returns different formats depending on which package the command came out of and which version.
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11:21<kristian>SynrG: I wanted to say I *finally* got around to installing Debian for reals - I'm very satisfied with it
11:22<kop>ballison: getent hosts | cut -d ' ' -f 1
11:22<kop>!tell kristian about overview
11:22<kop>kristian: ^^ since you're new.
11:22<melbogia>!tell melbogia about overview
11:22<kop>ballison: That'll get you multiple IPs. You have to use head or tail to get just one.
11:22<kop>!tell melbogia about selftell
11:23<kop>melbogia: FYI.
11:23<ballison>kop: that did not work at all.
11:23<ballison>I want to give the command a HOSTNAME and get the IP back
11:23<melbogia>kop: I see, i was merely trying to see how it works
11:23<kop>ballison: You have to give getent a hostname.
11:23<ballison>kop: i did . it fails.
11:23<kop>ballison: Then your resolver is broken.
11:24<kop>ballison: getent hosts
11:24<stderr>Guess mine is too...
11:24<ballison>kop: nope resolver works fine. that's just not how you use getent
11:24<ballison> getent
11:24<ballison>Unknown database:
11:24<themill>ballison: ummm, correct. That's not how you use getent.
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11:25<kop>kristian: The bot should have sent you a private message.
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11:25<kop>melbogia: No worries.
11:25<SorryGuest>I'm trying to find which package is in which DVD, but the jigdo thing gave me 404 :\
11:25<SorryGuest>what alternatives do I have?
11:26<ballison>kop: i got it now. thanks.
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11:27<kop>ballison: I could have been more clear. But then again nobody should be typing in random commands from a stranger without RTFMing and understanding what they're doing anyway. :-)
11:27<ballison>Oh I would never do that. :)
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11:28<ballison>kop: my "init 6" is not working, can you try it on your system?
11:28<themill>ballison: the reason there is no simple command for this is that there is no simple answer for it either -- multiple IPs for the same hostname etc would make a simple tool pretty useless
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11:29<SynrG>hm. gethostbyname?
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11:32<SynrG>perl -e 'use Socket; ($name,$aliases,$type,$len,$packed_addr)=gethostbyname(@ARGV[0]); print inet_ntoa($packed_addr)."\n";' my.address
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11:32<ballison>Synrg: I know how to do it in perl. I needed it in bash.
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11:33<ballison>kop: thanks for your help. I was using host | awk... getent is much more direct
11:33<SynrG>well, tbh, using getent isn't bash either ;)
11:34<melbogia>Is this true that the debian installer orders disks based on what driver was loaded first instead of reading the boot order from BIOS?
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11:35<kristian>ah, kop - not *really* new, I just did not get around to install debian earlier on
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11:40<SynrG>melbogia: however it is ordered, it is likely nothing to do with d-i, but rather the kernel
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11:40<SynrG>that, plus udev
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11:41<SynrG>melbogia: what's the real question you want answered? having a problem?
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11:42<melbogia>SynrG: the problem is we have a bunch of machines with 2GB flash cards and the d-i names the flash card sda, so when it comes ot installing, it is trying to install on the flash card
11:42<melbogia>I had removed the flash card from the boot order but it still shows up as sda
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11:43<SynrG>udev tries to solve the problem of devices being detected in an arbitrary order by using some predictable characteristics of each device to determine a uniform naming scheme
11:43<SynrG>i think you are right in concluding boot order has nothing to do with this.
11:44<SynrG>what i'm not so certain about is whether "what driver was loaded first" is relevant
11:44<melbogia>in my preseed.cfg I could change sda to sdb but not all machines have this flash card, so it's not a good solution
11:45<SynrG>have a look at udev, really. it is designed to solve this problem. perhaps in your case you'll need some custom rule so that you get the desired results each time.
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11:53<Lantizia>Lo is there any reason I can make a virtualhost on apache point to a dir in /var or /usr but not to /opt ? (i just get forbidden for no reason)
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11:55<petemc>Lantizia: theres almost certainly a reason, check permissions
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12:15<ballison>i have a report that runs every day that collects output from logs and rolls them up into a text file report which gets mailed out. started 3 days ago, suddenly the report stopped appearing inline in my emails. i now go check the report and file returns that it's of type = DATA instead of type = ASCII. is there a command I can run against it to clean it so that it's ASCII again?
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12:16<EmleyMoor>I've got a very odd problem with gfax. When I start it, it appears to "disappear" - as though minimising, but it doesn't go to the bar at the bottom of the desktop. I cannot, therefore, control it. I have even tried a reinstall
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12:17<jhutchins_lt>EmleyMoor: WHat release, what DE?
12:17<ballison>I've tried changing the file extension to .txt but that didn't help
12:17<EmleyMoor>It is never the less still running.
12:17<riley>hi- i just install debian- how can i add my windows parition to grub?
12:17<EmleyMoor>This is under squeeze, Gnome
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12:18<ballison>nm - stings should do it
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12:22<EmleyMoor>Is there some signal I can send gfax to "show itself"?
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12:24<EmleyMoor>I want to use gfax mainly to monitor my fax queues and modems - is there another client that will do this interactively for hylafax
12:24<cahoot>riley: is os-prober installed? else install it
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12:25<jhutchins_lt>EmleyMoor: Sorry, no knowledge of gnome. In kde you have to manually enable the system tray so that the NM icon will show up.
12:26<EmleyMoor>This is not going to the tray either, btw
12:27<EmleyMoor>Ah, found it
12:27<jhutchins_lt>Gotta love it.
12:28*EmleyMoor may need it again now he has (by some miracle) recovered a means to send faxes...
12:29<EmleyMoor>It's a pretty poor program for sending when you might need to pick a modem, but good for monitoring
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12:30<jhutchins_lt>I loved print-to-fax back in the day, but don't really miss it.
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12:56<dyfrgi>So, anyone have a guess as to why udev thinks my keyboard is a mouse?
12:56<dyfrgi>It says ID_INPUT_MOUSE=1 in udevadm info --export-db
12:56<dyfrgi>And doesn't have the keyboard settings that some other input devices (like my power button, oddly enough) picked up from /etc/default/keyboard
12:57<dyfrgi>It's making /etc/default/keyboard fail to configure the keyboard in X.
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13:06<jhutchins_lt>dyfrgi: Which release?
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13:21<nickenzi>Hello, I'm trying to install Squeeze IA64 on an IBM eserver x455. I can get Debian to boot from the CD into the installer about 40% of the time. (Otherwise it gets hungup on my scsi controller) When it does manage to get into the installer, it hangs on the detecting hardware to find cdroms step. I made a forum post here with some more info:
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13:24<dyfrgi>jhutchins_lt: sid. udev 167-2.
13:24<randall_>Hi guys. I'm trying to go from LILO to GRUB (legacy). However, when I try to "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb", I get "Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
13:24<randall_>The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
13:24<dyfrgi>cahoot: The built-in one in my laptop. It's connected via i8042.
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13:26<jhutchins_lt>dyfrgi: That's your problem, you're running sid.
13:26<dyfrgi>Not sure what bus that's connected to internally. PHYS="isa0060/serio0/input0" (from sysfs) seems to indicate ISA, but that seems unlikely - the laptop is only a couple of years old.
13:26<dyfrgi>jhutchins_lt: Er, yes, right. It indicates there's a bug, I'm wondering if anyone has any clue where it might be hiding.
13:27<jhutchins_lt>!udev bug
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13:35<retrospectacus>!udev sid
13:35<dpkg>udev 167-1 in sid is currently broken, because it tries to use /run created by base-files 6.2 which is not yet supported by the initscripts version in sid. Downgrade udev, libudev, libgudev-1.0-0 to 166-1 and base-files to 6.1 and remove /run to fix it. Install <apt-listbugs> and see #620995, #620191, #621036 and for details.
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13:37<cahoot>(or simply remove /run)
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13:40<dyfrgi>I'm on 167-2, for which the changelog says Only use /run if it is a tmpfs. (Closes: #621036, #620995)
13:40<dyfrgi>Though I do have data in /run/udev
13:40<dyfrgi>So perhaps it lies.
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13:42<dyfrgi>and it was indeed the existence of /run that was doing it. I killed it and ran udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change, and it picked up the conf.
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13:43<dyfrgi>I guess that changelog entry wasn't accurate. Maybe one reference to /run was striped, but not all.
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13:49<nickenzi>Hello, I'm trying to install Squeeze IA64 on an IBM eserver x455. I can get Debian to boot from the CD into the installer about 40% of the time. (Otherwise it gets hungup on my scsi controller) When it does manage to get into the installer, it hangs on the detecting hardware to find cdroms step. I made a forum post here with some more info:
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13:51<dyfrgi>Thanks, cahoot, retrospectacus.
13:53<SynrG>nickenzi: any error messages in syslog that will give us clues as to the nature of the hang?
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13:54<nickenzi>Synrg: this is just booting from the install cd
13:54<SynrG>yes. you should still have a syslog
13:55<SynrG>might be able to capture it before it hangs
13:55<sney>c-a-f4 is the syslog console as Irecall
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13:56<nickenzi>ok. i'll have to try it when i get home. i'm at work atm.
13:56<jhutchins_lt>nickenzi: Just for grins, you could try installing OpenSUSE. Novell and IBM work together on Linux.
13:56<SynrG>jhutchins_lt: and opensuse supports itanium?
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13:57<nickenzi>jhutchins_lt: I can get CentOS 4.7, SUSE 11.4, and Windows Server 2003 to run on it without issue. The Debians, Ubuntus, and Gentoo all give me issues.
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13:57<c0nsense>hey! any ideas? // mysql don't start ;/
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13:57<SynrG>but that poses an interesting possibility ... install *anything* ... debootstrap a debian install. fix whatever it is that needs fixing, boot to debian
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13:59<jhutchins_lt>SynrG: Well, ia64 supports itanium.
13:59<Eulenspiegel69>what do you guys use for password managers?
13:59<jhutchins_lt>SynrG: If you're using an i386 or amd64 installer that would explain the problem.
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13:59<nickenzi>SynrG: I've tried debootstrapping Squeeze but when it boots, it crashes.
13:59<sney>c0nsense: please go to #ubuntu on
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14:00<nickenzi>Synrg: I forget the exact error... It was a bunch of garbled junk
14:00<SynrG>jhutchins_lt: well, it's not me, it's nickenzi. and he did say "IA64 on ..." so i gotta assume he has the right installer
14:00<SynrG>nickenzi: hmm. so, i guess the squeeze kernel hates you
14:00<SynrG>perhaps you need a squeeze installer rebuilt against a better kernel
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14:01<nickenzi>I am using the IA64 installers for Itanium systems. IA32 and AMD64 installers will not boot because they require ELILO and EFI boot capability
14:01<SynrG>that's why the log will be interesting
14:01<jhutchins_lt>SynrG: A lot of distros don't support as many architectures as Debian, but usually the main intel/amd arches are supported.
14:01<SynrG>jhutchins_lt: ah
14:01<SynrG>i didn't think ia64 was a "main intel" arch :)
14:01<SynrG>(no more than arm is)
14:02<nickenzi>It was supposed to be the next generation of processors, but AMD beat them to the punch with AMD64
14:02<jhutchins_lt>SynrG: Yeah, opposite end of the spectrum, likely to be used by companies that use Oracle and Novell stuff.
14:02<SynrG>nickenzi: i'm familiar with the itanic. i'm an openvms application software developer
14:03<SynrG>but not so familiar with doing installs on it, unfortunately
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14:03<nickenzi>cool. when i get a chance i'll post the syslog and hopefully the mysteries of the universe will be opened.
14:03<nickenzi>it probably just says 42 and exits
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14:16<melbogia>I have this issue where the debian installer sees only one disk, there are 4 disks in this machine. Interestingly the first disk it sees is a flash card, if I remve the card then it sees other disks
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14:35<juergen> hier?
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14:36<daemonkeeper>Hier. Aber bitte auf Englisch (Please talk English in #debian)
14:36<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
14:37<daemonkeeper>Or there, yes.
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14:43<kop>melbogia: No hints in the install guide? Does it depend on which sort of cf (?) card you use. Many cf cards are not standards compliant. The only (reasonably priced) ones that do, or so I found, are sandisk.
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14:46<melbogia>kop: it's not sandisk, i think it's ATP (whatever that is). how would a flash card prevent other disks from showing up though?
14:46<kop>melbogia: No clue. Sorry. All I know is I had strange problems booting from others.
14:47<kop>melbogia: Or it could be some sort of kernel bug. You could, perhaps, try the kmuto installer.
14:47<melbogia>I can boot off these flash cards just fine, actually
14:47<dpkg>For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images.
14:47<kop>melbogia: Dunno if kmuto has newer squeeze installers or not.
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14:48<daemonkeeper>No, last time I checked he didn't
14:48<daemonkeeper>Only Lenny and Etch
14:48<sney>the kmuto installer's purpose is mostly covered by the firmware image now
14:48<melbogia>I do have a nfsroot environment, based on lenny, and it sees all the disks, including the flash card
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14:49<kop>melbogia: You could also file a bug report, or see if someone else has.
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15:23<FabienWang>hello there
15:23<FabienWang>anybody can help me with a partition appearing in double in "Computer" ?
15:23<FabienWang>i used to change it via fstab, but since, it appears in double... ^^
15:23<retrospectacus>how about in "mount"?
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15:24<FabienWang>well it says: Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
15:24<retrospectacus>I mean, in the output of "mount", does it appear twice?
15:24<FabienWang>and indeed, i already have it and can read/write to it (with the options i have put in /etc/fstab)
15:24<Eulenspiegel69>what password manager do you use?
15:25<FabienWang>it appears only once retrospectacus
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15:29<FabienWang>Eulenspiegel69, who were you talking to?
15:29<sney>maybe he's taking a survey
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15:29<Eulenspiegel69>to you all :)
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15:30<sney>personally, I use my brain. a lot of the people I support use post-its on their monitors. I've never had a use for dedicated password management software.
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15:31<retrospectacus>mark me down under the "my brain" column Eulenspiegel69
15:31<pfanni>Eulenspiegel69, I use Steganos LockNote and kwallet
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15:32<retrospectacus>oh also the web browsers' auto-fill
15:33<FabienWang>yeah i do use web browsers auto-fill, that's all
15:33<korencia>Eulenspiegel69 In mozilla -Secure Login -elsewhere only my brain
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15:33<FabienWang>secure login is pretty nice indeed korencia
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15:34<daemonkeeper>I (still) use ked password manager because of its nifty shell access. For corporate use I hacked a Perl/bash/LUKS chroot.
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15:35<EmleyMoor>What, in /proc/mdstat, does super 1.2 mean? One of my systems shows it, another doesn't
15:35<unixabg>Greetings, I have an isolated group of machines netbooting but the performace is sluggish. The server is not showing any real usage, but I am wandering if I need to tune something with nfs?
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15:36<kristianpaul>Is it posible to build a debian package statically?
15:37<kristianpaul>statically linked
15:38<Eulenspiegel69>I respect people who can remember secure and distinct passwords for at least tens of sites
15:39<Eulenspiegel69>but dumber ones like me need a sophisticated manager :)
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15:40<sney>so what happens when you're offsite somewhere and you need to log into something, but you don't have your computer or your pda or what have you... I'm in that situation too often to rely on something else to remember my passwords.
15:40<sney>also, this discussion is more suited to #debian-offtopic or some other non-support channel
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15:41<Eulenspiegel69>sney: at least for security critical sites (banking stuff, all sites where you can buy stuff, etc.) it's pretty straightforward to use a manager
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15:44<kop>unixabg: Instrument so you know what's going on. You could start with ntop just to get a glimpse of what's happening.
15:44<daemonkeeper>kristianpaul: Maybe, but you might be on your own to do so
15:44<unixabg>kop: Ok I will look at that
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15:46<kristianpaul>daemonkeeper: okay, are you aware of the right documentationg heading in to that direction?
15:46<bodai>hi there!could somebody help me?i need to record from microphone,but in the alsamixer microphone is in the playback
15:47<bodai>how am I able to switch it?
15:47<bodai>thank you so much!
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15:48<daemonkeeper>kristianpaul: Rebuild the source package you care about, but adapt the rules file and/or export LDFLAGS for static linking
15:48<kristianpaul>ah well
15:48<kristianpaul>hackish way then ;-)
15:48<babilen>bodai: -- switch with the <space> key
15:49<daemonkeeper>kristianpaul: Hence "maybe"
15:49<kristianpaul>sure :_)
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16:18<cyrusnk>hi guys
16:19<JesperKP>evenin' cyrusnk .
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16:20<cyrusnk>JesperKP, i have troubles with a wireless usb adapter, it says it's connected but the access point is greyed out. help please
16:21<cyrusnk>JesperKP, and i think i messed up the /etc/network/interfaces :)
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16:49<Volley>what might cause xorg to start without mouse and keyboard when doing a fresh debian wheezy install? i did compare logs and configs with a working installation on the same box for and couldn't find a clue.
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16:51<sney>Volley: can you paste your Xorg.0.log to somewhere we can see it?
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16:52<jhutchins_lt>Volley: Working installation of what?
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16:53<Volley>not right now. but i did a line by line comparison with of the log with the working one, and the first 500 lines or so were identical, then the one log contained lines of all the input devices being loaded and initialized, and the other just didn't have that ( but no error or warning )
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16:54<Volley>jhutchins: a debian which used to be squeezy, but then got a long history of messing with sid, experimantal, wheezy, etc ... ended up mostly wheezy, but i wanted to do a clean reinstall
16:55<devil>Volley: you could grep for EE
16:55<jhutchins_lt>Volley: Does an xorg.conf exist?
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16:57<Volley>yep. did copy a working one. did create a fresh one. did try without. changes some things, but not input. anyway - xorg input config is not in xorg.conf anymore (?)
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16:58<sney>it's all autodetected by default since squeeze
16:58<sney>there's a directive called allowemptyinput or something like that that sometimes is enabled by default in some configurations, and explicitly setting it to Off seems to fix the problem
17:00<Volley>hmm ... will have a look for that ...
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17:01<sney>it would show up in the log, though
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17:03<Volley>hmmyeah ... did google for that and was thinking the same, will have a closer look.
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17:04<ml|>did everything work fine in your previous install?
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17:20<Joelescorpion>alguien habla español?
17:20<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
17:20<kop>sney: Was it you that said the kmuto installers are not really needed now that there's installers with built-in firmware? If so, why?
17:20<Joelescorpion>un poco perdido por aqui
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17:21<sney>kop: not so muc that they aren't needed, just that one of the most common reasons to use a kmuto installer (that I saw here, anyway) was so one would have support for their NIC during install that either needed firmware or was too new for 2.6.26
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17:22<kop>sney: I'd have thought that newer kernels/backported kernels would have support for newer nics too. How would an old kernel have support for a newer nic?
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17:22<kop>sney: Or is it just that there's no new kernel in backports yet?
17:23<sney>afaik 2.6.38 has not yet been backported, no
17:23<sney>judd: kernels
17:23<judd>Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-31); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2)
17:23<sney>I wonder how usable wheezy is.
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17:24<nevyn>nnot very.
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17:27<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ or use English here.
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17:32<sney>judd: versions udev
17:32<judd>Package udev on i386 -- lenny-security: 0.125-7+lenny1; lenny: 0.125-7+lenny3; squeeze: 164-3; wheezy: 167-1; sid: 167-2
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17:34<kop>sney: Ok. Thanks.
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17:35<sney>kop: anyway there don't seem to be any NICs commonly found that require 2.6.38 for connectivity
17:35<sney>not yet I mean
17:35<nevyn>hrm udev.. sigh.
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17:38<Barca>hello everybody
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17:43<Barca>pls i'm new here
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17:44<kop>!tell Barca about ask
17:44<Gerowen>Just wondering if anybody knew why Debian 6 defaults to ext3. In comparison to my previous OS (Ubuntu 10.10) that used ext4, my network transfers seem more stable and Nautilus doesn't stop responding during large network file transfers. I'm not sure if this is because of the fact that I'm now using ext3, or if it's just a difference in the way Debian is configured. Just curious.
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17:45<Barca>kop, i don't understand
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17:46<kop>Gerowen: You'd have to check the debian kernel/installer mailing lists to be sure but I think it's because ext4 has not been around long enough/been tested enough at the time of the freeze before release.
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17:46<babilen>Barca: Just ask if you have a problem with Debian. Note that this is not a social chat channel though :)
17:46<kop>Barca: We're here to provide support for Debian users. If you have a problem just ask.
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17:47<kop>Gerowen: It's hard to say what your performance issues are all about. It could be that we simply take more care with debian.
17:47<kop>Gerowen: Since you seem to be new...
17:47<Barca>whao! i'm a debian user with Ubuntu 2.X
17:47<kop>!tell Gerowen about overview
17:48<kop>Barca: You want support on, the #ubuntu channel.
17:48<Barca>i can't run the live cd on my system. only on virtual machine.any help?
17:49<kop>Barca: If it's a ubuntu cd you need to ask #ubuntu. We can help here with a debian-live cd.
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17:50<Barca>what's the difference?
17:50<kop>!tell Barca about ubuntu
17:50<SLot>hi all
17:50<SLot>how to disable the ssl in cups?
17:50<kop>!tell Barca about based on debian
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17:50<kop>Barca: In other words, we're not sure of what the differences really are.
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17:52<chealer>Gerowen: I don't know how to answer that, but ext3 is the default for about all major Linux distributions
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17:52<Barca>Thanks so much for the response. "my first time on irc".
17:53<Arrowmaster>Gerowen: that comparison is using a common system to do the transfers to/from that didnt change between comparisons right?
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17:54<Barca>bye kop.
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17:56<Gerowen>Arrowmaster: Yes, same systems, same desktop environment, etc. Just in Ubuntu if I tried copyin large files via Samba, the transfers would slow down a LOT after about 300 MB and eventually hang. Since migrating both the server and workstation to Debian they seem to go just fine.
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17:57<Arrowmaster>it could be caused by any number of differences between the versions of samba and other components in debian and ubuntu but i highly doubt the filesystem has anything to do with it
17:58<Gerowen>Arrowmaster: Cool, I was just curious.
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18:43<gnome3>ups, sorry
18:43<sney>you have to type /server
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19:10<Gerowen>Question, just for self education. If, during Debian setup, I check the box for "DNS Server", what DNS server does Debian install?
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19:12<SynrG>Gerowen: tasksel --task-packages <taskname>
19:13<SynrG>the task name in question is 'dns-server'
19:13<Gerowen>SynrG: Learn something every day, :-)
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19:15<scisteffan>hello - I'm running a GPT partition table and I'm in parted, trying to set the "swap" flag to "on" for my swap partition (number 5). When I type "set 5 swap on" parted returns: "invalid token: swap". What could be the problem?
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19:21<aussa>hi, how do I fix this: "checking whether the C compiler ( ) works... checking for g++... no no"?
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19:24<ml|>aussa: seems like you need build-essential package
19:25<aussa>ok, installing it.... :D
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19:28<scisteffan>swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=13db3ec3-de21-425e-a1c3-ba982a655f92
19:28<scisteffan>in /etc/fstab: UUID=13db3ec3-de21-425e-a1c3-ba982a655f92 none swap sw 0 0
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19:28<sney>scisteffan: did you mkswap the device?
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19:29<retrospectacus>scisteffan: "blkid" to see what the disks' actual UuID is
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19:31<aussa>if I'm supposed to "./make" but there is no "make" file, the "./configure" was not successful or what is the problem?
19:31<sney>you're building something from source? you don't ./make
19:31<sney>'make' is a program on your system, it's installed when you install build-essential
19:31<aussa>don't know, I am just following steps
19:32<sney>assuming the configure script succeeded, just type 'make'
19:32<retrospectacus>"make" is a command that uses a file called "Makefile".
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19:32<aussa>sney: I did, this is what i get: "bash: ./make: No such file or directory"
19:33<sney>aussa: you're not paying attention. there is no ./ in front of make.
19:33<retrospectacus>!smite aussa
19:33*dpkg smites aussa with a plague of punctuation characters
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19:34<aussa>sney: ok, I'm sorry, it's just that in the installation instructions there is "./make"
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19:35<retrospectacus>aussa, what are you installing? Debian software is normally distributed, not compiled
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19:36<retrospectacus>500 Internal Server Error
19:36<sney>well, that's completely wrong
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19:36<retrospectacus>ok now it worked
19:36<retrospectacus>yes these are wrong
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19:37<sney>good ol wiki quality standards
19:37<retrospectacus>"make" is a command in your system. Not a local file.
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19:37<scisteffan>thanks - swapon -a is now working :D now to see if hibernate works!
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19:38<retrospectacus>nice website. Every page load is a 500 the first time, press refresh and it works
19:38<sney>scisteffan: good luck
19:39<aussa>is this way easier? --->
19:39<sney>aussa: the first way is fine, just eliminate the ./ in front of any 'make' command
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19:40<aussa>it does not work either, I think the "./configure" did not succeed
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19:42<SynrG>considering the source has some .cmake files, should that really be make, or cmake?
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19:43<sney>aussa: you can pastebin your config.log if you want
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19:45<aussa>sney: ok, how do I pastebin :S xD :P
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19:46<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <>, <wgetpaste>.
19:46<sney>aussa: yeah, copy it and paste it onto a convenient website like and go easy on the emoticons
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19:48<Gerowen>I'm guessing dpkg is a bot?
19:48<sney>Gerowen: you would guess right
19:49<sney>aussa: well that much looks fine, the only errors are when it was trying to see if you were on windows
19:49<sney>aussa: what does it do when you run 'make'?
19:50<aussa>make: *** No rule to make target `Common/'. Stop.
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19:51<aussa>I got this at the final line when I ran "./configure" ---> QT configured, but neither nor found in !
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19:51<SynrG>did anyone read my comment about cmake?
19:51<aussa>may be that?
19:51<sney>SynrG: yeah, I was just thinking that
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19:52<SynrG>unless it's something completely different from what's in trunk ...
19:52<SynrG>there's no configure there. is this one of the branches?
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19:57<SynrG>ah ...
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20:01<aussa>is there a way to enter to a windows partition without been asked for the root pass?
20:01<retrospectacus>!user accessible ntfs
20:01<dpkg>To get an NTFS or VFAT file system accessible by users and groups on the local machine, man mount; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, fmask, dmask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like conv=auto,uid=<user>,gid=<group>,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 into your fstab's mount option field.
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20:10<sney>I gave up on user accessible ntfs the day I learned there was a windows driver for ext2/3
20:10<k-man_>i have just been given ssh access to this server i need to install wordpress on - how do i determine what distro it is from the command line?
20:10<k-man_>oh, nm, its CentOS
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20:12<SynrG>but, answering your question anyway, i'd probably start with 'cat /etc/issue' as it's a popular place to announce such things.
20:13<SynrG>if it has LSB:
20:13<SynrG>lsb_release -a
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20:14<k-man_>thanks SynrG
20:15<Gerowen>Question, I'm trying to install Debian 6.0.1 via netinstall on a Dell Dimension 3000, both the "Install" and "Graphical Install" options give me an error in green text at the top. "Unknown video mode number: 314, press space to continue or wait 30 seconds." Upon pressing space a green scrabled bar appears at the top of the screen and the system halts.
20:15<k-man_>does sftp have a recursive get command?
20:15<Gerowen>Any ideas?
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20:15<Gerowen>And it IS the 32 bit disc, as I am aware the 3000 probably doesn't support 64 bit.
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20:16<SynrG>Gerowen: use another video mode?
20:16<Gerowen>SynrG: How do I go about doing that? I never specified one to begin with.
20:17<SynrG>maybe there's one specified in the boot prompt. edit it
20:17<SynrG>isn't there help about that available from the boot prompt?
20:17<SynrG>i can never remember what they are, myself
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20:18<SynrG>also, now that we have kms, i have confusion :p
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20:19<Gerowen>SynrG: Got it, the "Help" menu walked me right through scanning and selecting a video mode.
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20:20<Gerowen>SynrG: Thanks!
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21:06<chahibi>hello #debian
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21:07<chahibi> , I don't understand why I get the 'stop -p' control channel command, what might be causing it?
21:07<chahibi>I am pretty sure I didn't run bind9 stop
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22:08<aussa>"scons install" is not working.... what am I missing?
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22:10<aussa>can i have make and scons both installed at the same time?
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22:10<vlam>Is GNOME 3 stable on squeeze?
22:11<abrotman>gnome3 hasn't been fully packaged yet
22:11<vlam>When will it be available in the official repositories?
22:12<aussa>when I cd to a folder, how do I get to the upper folder?
22:12<sney>cd ..
22:12<vlam>I heard for some distributions it would get it by the end of the month
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22:13<abrotman>vlam: it won't be in squeeze .. it may end up in backports, but that has yet to be determined
22:14<vlam>Wouldn't this work? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
22:14<sney>vlam: it's not a race. it'll be in debian when it's been determined to play nice with the majority of software. chances are good it'll be the default for wheezy
22:15<dpkg>[ppa] Personal Package Archive (see or <launchpad>). PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!). Choose your repos wisely. No equivalent exists for Debian yet. Ask me about <why not use a ppa>.
22:15<vlam>Isn't wheezy far away?
22:15<abrotman>vlam: PPA packages are NOT for Debian ..
22:15<sney>vlam: no, for 2 reasons: a) apt-add-repository is ubuntu-specific, and b) ubuntu dependencies ESPECIALLY for gnome stuff are NOT debian compatible.
22:15<vlam>Ah I see sney
22:15<nevyn>ubuntu is not debian. news at 11.
22:15<vlam>My first distribution was Ubuntu so I'm a little used to that
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22:16<vlam>I can wait though
22:16<sney>anyway, the stable release for wheezy may be a long way off, but it'll be usable a lot sooner than that.
22:16<sney>gnome3 is already in experimental so it is being worked on, though how long it'll take to roll down to testing depends on too many factors to predict
22:17<vlam>When wheezy comes out would I just have to use the update manager to get it or would I have to reinstall Debian with a new wheezy CD
22:17<sney>you can update your system.
22:18<vlam>I hated how Ubuntu bugged me to update almost every day
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22:36<vlam>So my latest Debian media server was a success and it is running beautifully
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22:42<aussa>have any of you ever install glut library?
22:42<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
22:43<abrotman>aussa: ask your real question
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22:47<aussa>ok, I'm trying to install "inVRs", while "cmaking" it I got this: "Unable to find Glut include directory!" I looked for the glut library and followed the installing instructions, it says to run the script mkmkfiles.imake but it isn't working, and I'm thinking to use freeglut instead but I don't know if it would be the same
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22:51<vlam>my debian media server keeps going offline
22:51<vlam>I have mapped it as a network drive
22:51<vlam>and once and a while it will lose connection
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22:54<vlam>nvm spelling mistake in /etc/network/interfaces
22:54<vlam>I spelt broadcast as broaddcast
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22:55<Gerowen>Question, are there proprietary drivers for Intel graphics cards that provide improved performance? Just curious.
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23:13<Gerowen>I hear you lisovik
23:13<Gerowen>Well, read you
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23:14<lisovik>Good ;-)
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23:16<lisovik>I never try IRC before
23:17<MikhailGaidamaka>me too)
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23:19<lisovik><MikhailGaidamaka> You a from ukrain?
23:19<Gerowen>I've pretty much left mine logged into here the past day or two cause' I'm new to Debian so I've been hopping in here once and a while when I run into something new.
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23:20<MikhailGaidamaka>no. Russia) Novosibirsk. my grand grand father from Ukraine)
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23:20<MikhailGaidamaka>i have small question about system update
23:21<lisovik>I can try
23:22<aussa>I installed glut with aptitude, where should look for its folders?
23:22<lisovik>I can try help
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23:23<Arrowmaster>aussa: be more specific on the package name
23:23<MikhailGaidamaka>now I work on debian squeeze. Can I include repo for debian-wheezy and debian-sid for new soft? or it not safety?
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23:24<Arrowmaster>MikhailGaidamaka: highly not recommended, but you can use
23:24<aussa>and libglut3
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23:25<Arrowmaster>aussa: looks like that is just a dummy package pointing to freeglut3
23:25<aussa>ok, freeglut3 then :D
23:26<Arrowmaster>its only 1 file in /usr/lib
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23:29<aussa>when I search for something with aptitude, sometimes an "A" appears next to the package name? what does that mean?
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23:35<thkoch>Hi. I did cat debian.iso>/deb/sdb but the usb stick won't boot. BIOS is ok. Do I need to also install a mbr?
23:35<Arrowmaster>aussa: means automatically installed because another package depends on it
23:36<dvs>thkoch: no
23:37<thkoch>dvs: should I try another usb stick?
23:37<dvs>thkoch: try dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb; sync
23:38<aussa>when I download a package from aptitude, do I have to "configure make make install" it or does it do it for me?
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23:41<nevyn>aussa: aptitude in general contains binaries not source.
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23:49<aussa>if the requirements says I need gcc 3.2, gcc 3.3 and I have gcc 4.4.5, should it work?
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23:52<Arrowmaster>it should
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23:53<aussa>I get this error: "test.cpp:27: error: ‘strcmp’ was not declared in this scope -make: *** [test.o] Error 1"
23:54<nevyn>aussa: apt-get install build-essential
23:55<aussa>already installed
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23:56<nevyn>what are you running to build it?
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