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---Logopened Thu Jun 09 00:00:51 2011
00:00<Doug>OK. I think I've seen some parameters that can be passed to aptitude to force it to pull a specific version of a package, or to force it to use a certain rep for the package.
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00:01<bones_was_here>yeah you can pass it parameters but i just use the curses interface
00:01<bones_was_here>when you hit enter on a package, at the bottom of the details about dependencies etc are the versions of the package that are available, and you can press + on those
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00:02<Doug>I also know that the repos config files have an "exclude" option so that we can tell it to NOT include certain packages from that repo. Maybe this would also help.
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00:02<Doug>Good idea.
00:02<bones_was_here>yeah you might want to set those if it needs to be permanent, or if other people who might not be aware of what you did will be administering the same system
00:03<bones_was_here>php will stay in the 'upgradable' list otherwise
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00:07<d3co>!hi
00:07<dpkg>hello, d3co
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00:10<Doug>Wow. kind of strange, but I haven't used the curses interface for probably 5 years...... :-) Interesting.
00:10<Doug>Thanks for your advice
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00:16<sergiorey>hola gente
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00:44<hardkor>#server
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01:11<dodo>I want to go for the testing version. So i'm editing sources.list. Should i change every "squeeze" to "wheezy"?
01:12<dodo>what about this line: deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
01:15<bones_was_here>you should leave the squeeze lines intact, at least for a while, as there might be packages missing or buggy in testing that you need
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01:18<sam350>test
01:20<dodo>bones_was_here: like this: http://paste.debian.net/119279/
01:20<dodo>?
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01:21<bones_was_here>dodo: yes that should be fine, although i'm not sure if wheezy has security or volatile yet, so you might see errors about those
01:21<dodo>ok
01:22<dodo>now i should update, then safe-upgrade... and full-upgrade?
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01:23<bones_was_here>yeah that should work
01:23<bones_was_here>the update is when you'll see errors if there's a problem with sources.list
01:24<dodo>ok
01:25<jm_>!testing security
01:25<dpkg>Wheezy is unlikely to receive full security support for some time. Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in testing. Keep up to date by reading <d-d-a>. Also ask me about <d-s-a>, <apt-listchanges>.
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01:27<bones_was_here>but imo, apt-get update is better than aptitude update (which hides some types of errors, leading to unexpected problems when installing packages)
01:27<dodo>looks like there are some broken dependencies. "aptitude" wants to delete 10 files to solve the dependecies
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01:27<bones_was_here>dodo: you may want to use the aptitude curses interface which will let you iterate through possible solutions with ,. keys
01:28<dodo>ok
01:30<bones_was_here>b will jump to the next broken package (so you can see some detail about whats wrong with it), e will show details of the currently selected possible solution, ! applies the currently selected solution
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01:31<dodo>don't know how to do the safe/full-upgrade in the ncurses interface
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01:32<sney>apt-get is recommended for moving from one release to the other
01:33<jm_>only in squeeze, for lenny aptitude was recommended
01:33<bones_was_here>dodo: it behaves a bit differently but typing a U (case sensitive) marks all upgradable packages ready for installation (which will happen when you hit g)
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01:34<bones_was_here>dodo: the first time you press g it'll show you a list of what its about to do, cancel is q or proceed is g
01:34<dodo>ok
01:35<bones_was_here>when you hit g the first time, any still broken packages are automatically fixed by aptitude's first choice of solution (which may not be the one you want)
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01:40<flamingspinach_>can anyone explain to me why apt thinks this package is upgradeable? http://pastebin.com/Svbz4jKz
01:41<flamingspinach_>according to the definitions of priorities in `man apt_preferences`, a version with priority 100 shouldn't be automatically upgraded to
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01:45<dodo>bones_was_here: thanks a lot.
01:45<bones_was_here>np, hf with aptitude
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01:48<dodo>when should i remove squeeze from sources.list?
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01:49<bones_was_here>when you don't use any packages from it you can remove it (if there is still a package from it, it'll show in an 'obsolete/local' section in aptitude)
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01:49<dodo>ok
01:49<bones_was_here>but i always keep current stable in sources.list on my testing/unstable machines
01:49<bones_was_here>it doesnt really cause any problems and means i can easily get stuff from there if i want to
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01:50<dodo>ok. thanks for the tip
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01:50<bones_was_here>only downside is the more repos you have listed, the longer apt-get update will take
01:53<dodo>bones_was_here: ok... sleep time here... thanks.
01:53<dodo>bye
01:53<bones_was_here>GN!
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01:58<sam350>@jm_ I've always used apt-get on lenny
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01:59<sam350>but I am about to move to squeeze. Do you mean releases of the debian linux package or other packages
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02:03<jm_>sam350: sure you could use it, but it was recommended to use aptitude to ugprade from etch to lenny
02:04<jm_>for lenny->squeeze apt-get is recommended
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02:24<tim_>Hey all. When I turn on compiz I lose Maximize, minimize and close buttons. Compiz --reset and compiz --replace don't work.
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02:57<kusanagi>is there a program that show you the runtime limits that you can get with sysconf() or pathconf()?
02:57<jm_>yes
02:58<Hydroxide>kusanagi: getconf
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03:08<kusanagi>thanks Hydroxide! :D
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03:12<Hydroxide>np
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03:16<nonsenso>anyone up?
03:16<nonsenso>it looks like backports is down.
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03:25<nyov>nonsenso: yeah backports.org unreachable
03:25<nyov>thought you meant the mirrors at first :P
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03:28<nyov>that would be morricone
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03:31<cafenet>Can't remove Ubuntu Desktop from dropdown menu on logon screen?
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03:35<cahoot>there shouldn't be any ubuntu desktop to begin with in debian
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03:38<tarzeau>i have an apple keyboard and using gnome. f11 makes changes the loudspeaker volume, but i want to change fullscreen/not fullscreen in chromium
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03:44<tarzeau>fn+f11 :) yay
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04:23<mdupont>debian-6.0.1a-ia64-netinst.iso is not booting with qemu, even if the md5 sum is right a2a9ca45965bb8da79be2f7fe5109082
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04:25<OdyX>mdupont: you probably want -amd64- and not -ia64-
04:25<OdyX>!ia64
04:25<dpkg>Intel Architecture-64 (IA-64) is a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as <Itanium> and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>.
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04:26<mdupont>oh doh, of course. thanks
04:26<OdyX>np
04:26<mdupont>i worked on the titanic before... silly me
04:26<ml|>heh
04:26<sam350>backports mainsite is back up
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04:54<ayaka>I have installed schroot but I see it every time when I shutdown PC and show XXX unmount even I don't use it, how to let it don't mount any thing auto
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05:15<ayaka>it seems noone online
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05:17<wintellect>lo ayaka
05:17<ayaka>I have installed schroot but I see it every time when I shutdown PC and show XXX unmount even I don't use it, how to let it don't mount any thing auto
05:18<wintellect>never used schroot before
05:20<wintellect>are you using schroot for anything?
05:20<jm_>ayaka: do you have any schroot sessions defined?
05:21<ayaka>jm_, define?yes I have set some chroot
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05:22<wintellect>then surely when you shutdown the PC, that's the chroots being exited?
05:22<jm_>ayaka: ok in that case try changing /etc/default/schroot, setting SESSIONS_RECOVER
05:22<jm_>I think he has no problem with them being handled, but only if he used any of schroot sessions
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05:24<ayaka>jm_, so I shall change it to "end" ?
05:25<jm_>ayaka: I am not really familiar with schroot, but quick look says yes - perhaps check that that --list-foo option does when you haven't used any
05:25<jm_>that that = what that
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05:26<ayaka>I don't full understand chroot as well
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05:27<ayaka>I can type chroot path to chroot but all the user or only me or one the tty will chroot to the path?
05:28<jm_>only that instance
05:29<ayaka>jm_, just the child shell ?
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05:29<jm_>ayaka: yes
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05:29<mekt>Is there something like 'AdBlock or Ghostery for NetFilter/IPTables and DNS'? -- a way to cut out personal data brokers, advertisers, and other baddies from your network traffic?
05:30<ayaka>jm_, I know chroot is not for security, but I see some server can run in chroot and autorun how it do?
05:30<ayaka>mekt, AdBlock in iceweasel?
05:33<ayaka>jm_, ?
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05:34<jm_>ayaka: it's usually built-in so the apps themselves call chroot(2)
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05:34<jm_>mekt: I think there are lists for some popular windows tools which can be converted to l7 rules or somesuch
05:35<ayaka>jm_, if I don't have such program but I want to do it like jail()
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05:35<jm_>ayaka: then you need to do it by hand
05:36<ayaka>jm_, but openvpn is some thing like it?
05:37<jm_>ayaka: like chroot? no
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05:38<ayaka>jm_, and chroot is not sercity enough than jail, do we have some way instead in linux?
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05:41<ayaka>jm_, I have to go now, thank you
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05:52<petemc>any ops around that can shed some light on why i cant speak in #debian on freenode
05:52<petemc>10:50 [freenode] -!- #debian Cannot send to channel
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05:53<prem>hi all
05:54<prem>"dpkg -L <packagename>" returns the whole set of files a package is isntalling..i hope it is stored somewhere in the system
05:54<prem>anybody knows from which file it is retreiving
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05:56<grove>prem: /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.list
05:56<petemc>prem: /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.list
05:56<prem>thanks grove and petemc
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06:00<tal>Hi all. I got this error: "/lib64/libdl.so.2: could not read symbols: Invalid operation" in making emerald. How to fix this?
06:02<babilen>tal: which architecture are you on?
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06:03<tal>./configure and auto make
06:04<babilen>Yes, but on which architecture? (amd64, i386, ...)
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06:04<tal>Ah sorry amd64
06:05<babilen>And which version of Debian? Could you paste the the build log to http://paste.debian.net ?
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06:06<tal>I use the current Debian testing. Other people have build this currectly
06:06<tal>This is the guide I was using: http://web.cs.dal.ca/~darndt/other/install-emerald-debian-squeeze/
06:07<babilen>tal: You want to ask in #debian-next (channel for wheezy/sid users) in that case. libdl.so.2 is shipped by the libc6 package and I am quite certain that you have that installed. :)
06:07<tal>yes I see this in file explorer. I will go there
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06:53<mohamed>salut
06:53<mohamed>where are you
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06:59<devil>here.
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07:01<prem>how to create a md5 crypted password in debian
07:01<prem>so that i can preseed during installation..
07:01<jm_>man mkpasswd
07:02<prem>jm_, there are several methods and options given in that..bu which one does the installer undestands..?
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07:04<jm_>prem: which setting is it for?
07:05<prem>am trying to build a auto install cd with root password encrypted and preseeded
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07:05<prem>but here am not sure how to create that encrypted password
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07:06<jonsaint>hi all. whats happened to ubuntu-uk?
07:06<jm_>from what I can see it's direct output of a MD5 password as generated by mkpasswwd
07:07<jonsaint>anyone?
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07:07<jm_>!tell jonsaint -about ubuntu
07:07<babilen>jonsaint: Why do you think #debian knows -- You might want to ask in #ubuntu (or #ubuntu-uk) on irc.freenode.net
07:08<jonsaint>sorry. just installed this and this page came up. so sorry
07:08<babilen>np
07:08<babilen>!otherchannel jonsaint #ubuntu irc.freenode.net
07:08<dpkg>jonsaint: The channel you are looking for is #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If your client supports it, you can also right-click the following link and choose connect: irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu
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07:24<nigelb>Is there a way to get ISOs for really old debian releases?
07:25<jm_>for some yes
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07:25<petemc>http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/
07:25<petemc>looks to start from woody
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07:26<nigelb>For a convoluted reason, I'm looking for hamm
07:26<jm_>heh I have 2.0 cd-s burned at home
07:26<jm_>actually that was a single CD IIRC
07:27<jm_>(binary one, I don't have sources cd)
07:27<gnugr>!hamm
07:27<dpkg>somebody said hamm was Debian GNU/Linux 2.0, released for i386 and m68k (first multi-arch release), released July 24, 1998. It is no longer supported. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianHamm
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07:54<raul>Hy everyone, I would like to monitor a class C network, I have a really old machine with ubuntu 6.06 with just 250MB RAM, which network monitor would be fine for my purpouse?
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07:54<babilen>!otherchannel raul #ubuntu-server irc.freenode.net
07:54<dpkg>raul: The channel you are looking for is #ubuntu-server on irc.freenode.net. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu-server. If your client supports it, you can also right-click the following link and choose connect: irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-server
07:55<babilen>raul: This is #debian and we can (unfortunately?) not support Ubuntu
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07:56<raul>babilen right, sorry I thought both arquitectures could be pretty "similar"
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07:57<babilen>They are, but we have no idea what changes are introduced by Ubuntu and this is hardly a Debian (or even Ubuntu) specific problem. You could also try ##networking or ##linux on freenode.
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08:08<tal>Hi all! I'm getting error in make: /lib64/libdl.so.2: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
08:08<tal>Anyone know how to fix?
08:10<tal>This error occured when I'm installing emerald
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08:19<aurimai>I don't get it. I try to use the GUI (Places → Connect to Server) to connect to a remote server over SFTP. I chose "Remember password forever", but each time I change the working directory, OpenSSH asks me to enter the password.
08:20<aurimai>Do I have to change some preferences on the remote server?
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08:23<SynrG>tal: google knows all. google says http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1702253&page=2 ... also, i doubt if you're on squeeze. please direct wheezy/sid problems to #debian-next.
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08:30<boredqwertyutrerwetr>hello.
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08:31<yoonux>poo poo
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08:53<cafenet>hey guys my wireless connected but doesnt open any pages and it works wired how can i use my wireless
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08:56<devil>cafenet: can you ping IPs?
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08:57<sander_>in an automatic install (e.g. FAI) how can I verify whether aptitude has installed the thing it was asked to?
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08:58<cafenet>with wireless?
08:58<cafenet>with wireless i cant ping
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08:59<devil>cafenet: not at all?
08:59<devil>or can you ping 74.125.43.106 but not google.com
08:59<cafenet>not at all "with wireless" but i can use my lan and works fine
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08:59<devil>cafenet: can you scan networks?
09:00<cafenet>yea it shows me all network
09:00<cafenet>let me restart the service ha?
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09:00<devil>cafenet: did you add a dns?
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09:01<cafenet>do u think its related to my hardware?
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09:04<devil>cafenet: how should i think anything? there is no info at all
09:04<cafenet>ok
09:04<devil>cafenet: did you add a dns?
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09:04<devil>without setting a domain name server, you wont get anywhwere
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09:31<sergiorey>hola hsy slgien
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09:31<sergiorey>holoa ay alguien
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09:31<babilen>!es
09:31<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
09:32<babilen>sergiorey: Or speak English here :)
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09:32<sergiorey>ok
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10:26<RCX_Slinger>Hello! What would be the best way of installing debian with grub-efi? I got a completely empty hdd (gpt label) and noticed the debian installer doesn't create an "efi system partition" by default (uses grub instead of grub-efi).
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10:28<RCX_Slinger>(it is not a mac, btw)
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10:59<tsogi>hello there!
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11:00<sney>hi
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11:00<tsogi>i'm not pretty sure if it's the right place to ask
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11:00<tsogi>a bit about debian
11:01-!-mode/#debian [+l 496] by debhelper
11:01<babilen>Just ask, if there is a more appropriate place we will let you know :)
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11:01<tsogi>:) thanks.
11:01<tsogi>here's the deal. i've enabled a concurrent boot on my debian lenny
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11:01<tsogi>so now it boots faster
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11:02<tsogi>and i'm really glad for it, but the boot messages seem to be misordered
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11:02<tsogi>would like to know if it's possible to align them properly
11:02<ethan>Hello all. .looking for wav files similiar to that one would find in the windows/media folder (system sounds) does debian have such a folder?
11:03<sney>ethan: usually /usr/share/sounds though I think gnome has its own as well
11:03<longwayhome>Hi! there are only 6 people on the ubuntu channel. My I pose a question here please?
11:03<sney>longwayhome: nope!
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11:03<sney>!ubuntuirc longwayhome
11:03<dpkg>longwayhome: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
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11:03<babilen>longwayhome: Note that the ubuntu channel is on a different network. :)
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11:04<babilen>tsogi: I don't think so, given that the scripts are executed in parallel.
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11:04<ethan>thank you sney!
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11:05<tsogi>babilen: thanks buddy. maybe i should just get a bootsplash or similar
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11:12<tsogi>as i think about it, i recall that squeeze has a concurrent-type boot enabled by default, but messages there are displayed fine. anyone has any ideas?
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11:31<danny>what packages do I need in order to open smb urs in nautilus?
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11:32<evaluate>Hello.
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11:33<evaluate>I'm having some weird issues, which I can't really explain. I can do a 'host' and even succesfully ping 'ftp.ro.debian.org', but if I try to install something with apt-get, I get: Failed to fetch [...] Could not resolve 'ftp.ro.debian.org'
11:33<thrice>danny, do you have gvfs-backends ?
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11:38<evaluate>Is apt-get doing something different when resolving a host than for example 'ping' does?
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11:43<weasel>evaluate: shouldn't.
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11:44<weasel>evaluate: both should use the system resolver, i.e. the same as 'getent hosts <foo>'
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11:45<hvad>hello
11:45<sney>hi
11:46<evaluate>http://pastebin.com/iMMjDBgC :-\
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11:47<evaluate>weasel, also, google-chrome works fine, but xchat connected only after I passed the IP instead of the hostname, this is really weird...
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11:47<sney>evaluate: strange. what if you try putting that ip address in your sources.list?
11:47<sney>(or explicitly declaring ftp.ro in /etc/hosts)
11:47<evaluate>sney, I'd guess it will work fine, let's see
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11:49<evaluate>sney, yep, with the IP it works fine...
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11:50<weasel>evaluate: have you configured a proxy?
11:50<sney>sounds like you have an intermittent dns issue. I think chrome caches dns so that probably keeps it stable enough
11:50<evaluate>weasel, not that I know of...
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11:51<evaluate>sney, but how come that 'host' and 'ping' also work fine?
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11:51<evaluate>These shouldn't cache anything, should they?
11:51<sney>I don't think so, no. hmm.
11:52<weasel>env | grep -i proxy
11:52<weasel>grep -ri proxy /etc/apt/
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11:52<evaluate>weasel, neither of them outputs anything
11:53<hvad>bye
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11:53<evaluate>(is that correct English?)
11:53<sney>yes
11:53<evaluate>good :-p
11:54<weasel>does apt-get update work?
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11:54<evaluate>Not with the host, with the IP it works fine.
11:54<weasel>does ping/host work as root?
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11:55<daemonkeeper>There is perhaps a http_proxy environment set?
11:55<evaluate>weasel, yes it does.
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11:55<evaluate>daemonkeeper, shouldn't that have appeared in 'env | grep -i proxy' if that was the case?
11:56<daemonkeeper>Sure, but environments may be changed
11:56<weasel>capture the output of strace apt-get update and put it online?
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11:59<evaluate>weasel, http://pastebin.com/Qg57k4rV -- it's rather big though...
11:59<weasel>it would be.
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12:00<jeeger>Greetings! I ran out of space during an aptitude operation, and now aptitude refuses to work because the lock file is still present. I am asked to run dpkg-reconfigure -a to fix this. However, this fails when reaching cron (as per this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=604163 bug). What can I do (am using debian sid btw)?
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12:01<weasel>evaluate: gah, forgot -f. strace -f ...?
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12:02<evaluate>weasel, http://pastebin.com/nUzCz02i
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12:05<daemonkeeper># [pid 13396] <... read resumed> 0x7fff913cda30, 64000) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
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12:05<daemonkeeper>And finally: # [pid 13396] <... connect resumed> ) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
12:06<evaluate>daemonkeeper, sorry, not sure what that means, I can't really read straces...
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12:06<daemonkeeper>I guess that's the socket gethostbyname() or similar opens.
12:07<daemonkeeper>Ultimately that means what you already know: You can't resolve names
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12:07<weasel>nothing wrong with EAGAIN.
12:07<evaluate>daemonkeeper, yeah, that doesn't help much though... :-p
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12:08<evaluate>I think I'll try some good old-fashion problem solving method
12:08*evaluate reboots, brb
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12:08<daemonkeeper>weasel: No, but it tries again three times or so, and files ultimately.
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12:10<daemonkeeper>*fails
12:10<weasel>[pid 13397] recvfrom(3, "s@\201\5\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\3ftp\2ro\6debian\3org\0\0"..., 2048, 0, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(53), sin_addr=inet_addr("193.231.240.1")}, [16]) = 35
12:10<weasel>I'd like to know what tcpdump says about this one
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12:11<daemonkeeper>We might ask once he's back
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12:13<evaluate>ok, rebooted laptop, modem and router and problem is still the same, I might have a clue about what is wrong though...
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12:14<daemonkeeper>weasel asked you do to a tcpdump while trying again
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12:15<evaluate>Hmm. I had the nameserver from work in my /etc/resolv.conf, I removed it and set my router as the nameserver and now it seems to work fine.
12:15<weasel>hah.
12:15*weasel was right
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12:15<weasel>(or at least this information doesn't invalidate my theory :)
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12:16<evaluate>I still wonder though why it worked with ping/host and not in apt-get/xchat...
12:16<weasel>how many nameservers were in /etc/resolv.conf?
12:17<evaluate>weasel, 3 in total, two from work and a global one.
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12:17<evaluate>s/from work/from my workplace/
12:17<weasel>and one or two, but not all three reject queries?
12:18<evaluate>Well, the third one should theoretically always work (it's 8.8.8.8 which I have put just in case...)
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12:19<evaluate>Not sure about the first two though, I know they are firewalled, but I'm not sure if they accept dns queries from outside or not...
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12:20<weasel>193.231.240.1 doesn't
12:20<weasel>( dig @193.231.240.1 ftp.ro.debian.org )
12:20<evaluate>weasel, do you think the problem was that apt-get/xchat didn't query all 3 nameservers?
12:21<gnugr>i did ping ftp.ro.debian.org, works fine
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12:21<gnugr>all packages there
12:21<evaluate>gnugr, yeah, the problem was with my DNS setup.
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12:22<weasel>evaluate: hard to tell what exactly happened. but having nameservers that don't work in /etc/resolv.conf isn't a good idea. if they are just down then that's not as bad as if they tell you 'go away' in one way or another
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12:23<evaluate>weasel, I see. I'm not sure though why my resolv.conf wasn't rewritten when I connected to my home network
12:23*evaluate blames wicd
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12:26<evaluate>Anyway, I'll try and see what went wrong with wicd. Thanks for the help!
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12:31<gnugr>evaluate: did you read that? " http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wicd "
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12:32<jhutchins>evaluate: dhcp has been doing that for a while now.
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12:33<jhutchins>evaluate: man dhclient.conf
12:33<evaluate>gnugr, yeah, I've read it already, it doesn't help in this case though.
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12:34<babilen>evaluate: Do you define static nameservers in wicd?
12:34<evaluate>babilen, no, I think I will need to though...
12:35<babilen>evaluate: wicd would typically just use the nameservers that it gets told to use by the dhcp server ...
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12:36<evaluate>babilen, well, I don't think my router knows about the nameservers at my workplace, so I'd guess the resolv.conf wasn't rewritten at all...
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12:39<evaluate>ok, it seems that switching from dhclient to dhcpcd (as suggested here: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/FAQ) makes wicd rewrite the resolv.conf file again. I'd guess this would be the best fix.
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12:39<babilen>evaluate: Indeed, dhclient is deprecated
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12:41*evaluate thinks about filing a whishlist to wicd for using dhcpcd as default instead of dhclient
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12:43<weasel>why?
12:43<weasel>ah.
12:43<weasel>as long as my wicd doesn't touch my resolv.conf ... :)
12:44<gnugr>evaluate:you must add also bpo to your sources.list to get results with wicd
12:44<evaluate>btw, there seem to be some spam links on http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/FAQ (last 3 lines)
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12:45<jhutchins>weasel: Just configure it not to.
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12:45<evaluate>gnugr, isn't backports only intended for stable releases? I'm using testing...
12:45<babilen>evaluate: You are in the wrong channel in that case (wheezy/sid is supported in #debian-next)
12:45<evaluate>weasel, I guess you could set static nameservers, so that it always writes the same thing...
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12:45<gnugr>oh ok sorry, did not see it
12:46<evaluate>babilen, ohh, sorry then.
12:46<babilen>evaluate: No problem :)
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12:47<danny>I'm trying to access samba shares from squeeze but nautilus cannot handle smb urls although *vfs-extra package is installed. Any ideas how to debug this?
12:47*evaluate just noticed it's also in the topic
12:47<Aleric>is there a utility to test mouse buttons (up till lots of buttons)?
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12:48<evaluate>Aleric, xev should work for that, I guess.
12:50<Aleric>Thanks, apparently the G700 mouse has 5 buttons that aren't passed to the PC :/
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13:01<mjt>at some point (maybe kernel, maybe experimenting with X from sid and reverting it back to squeeze) my middle mouse button stopped working - neither double-buttons (left+right) nor the middle button itself produces any visible events (incl. xev), but horiz. scrolling works. What can it be?
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13:04<gian>ciao
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13:05<danny>any ideas how to trouble shoot nautilus' handling of smb:// urls?
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13:06<shundake>So... Good afternoon
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13:11<gnugr>mjt: join #debian-next and try there
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13:12<mjt>gnugr: why?
13:13<gnugr>mjt: is channel for wheezy/sid
13:13<mjt>i'm runnig squeeze
13:14<mjt>at least i don't have non-squeeze packages which I _think_ may be related
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13:21<mjt>ok, it's a kernel issue
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13:22<mjt>because evtest does not show these events too
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13:24<mjt>..or really a hardware issue, because another mouse works... :(
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13:24<gnugr>mjt: try to reconfigure xerver with "dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg" then restart X control+backspace
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13:25<gnugr>reconfigure xserver*
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13:28<mjt>xserver-xorg does not have any relevant configuration anymore, as far as i can see
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13:30<mjt>in old xorg.conf I had "Emulate3Buttons" "true" set for mouse. Where it is set now?
13:30<gnugr>related with keyborad and mouse as well
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13:31<mjt>gnugr: can you please stop spewing random stuff which you don't know about?
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13:32<gnugr>mjt: you did turn from sid back to squeeze but you still have the new kernel
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13:33<retrospectacus>mjt: You put a "Section" for mouse with that rule into a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
13:33<cahoot>mjr, IIRC xorg -configure will create an xorg.conf to edit/change at will
13:33<retrospectacus>mjt: or go ahead and create xorg.conf etc.
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13:35<mjt>it's all set using xinput nowadays, as far as i can see
13:35<mjt>both keyboard and mouse settings
13:35<mjt>has nothing to do with xorg.conf, but the legacy xorg.conf stuff is still supported.
13:36<mjt>and the problem at hand has nothing to do with sid<=>squeeze, too - it's unrelated. Now i know what happened - i broke my mouse to the floor so physical middle button stopped working - at about the time when i tried X from x.
13:37<mjt>and now i also realized that 3button emulation does not work - dunno how long it has been this way since i used real 3rd button
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13:38<mjt>now i'm asking what's the _current_ way to control that 3button emulation - the thing that has been previously done in xorg.conf before.
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13:40<SynrG>i haven't found a better way to configure my input devices than xorg.conf.d
13:40<mjt>(s/X from x/X from sid/ :)
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13:40<SynrG>so i don't know why you're referring to "legacy xorg.conf"
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13:41<mjt>sigh, that's very difficult to live without cut-n-paste in xterms :))
13:41<SynrG>there was some brief flirtation through the squeeze release cycle with alternatives ...
13:41<SynrG>but they came back around to xorg.conf + xorg.conf.d in the end
13:41<SynrG>if something else is to supercede it in wheezy, i dunno about it yet.
13:42<mjt>iirc gnome has some control panel thing about it
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13:42<mjt>but i see now that this xinput thing is per-device - eg, i re-plug my mouse and it'll be another device and settings has to be reapplied.
13:43<SynrG>there are new selectors for input devices that allow you to match any device you might plug in based on whatever criteria you supply instead of hardwiring device node
13:43<mjt>"Evdev Middle Button Emulation (267): 2"
13:43<SynrG>e.g. InputClass
13:43<SynrG>see xorg.conf man page
13:43<mjt>yea, I know inputclass. I'll try
13:44<mjt>http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-evdev-middle-mouse-button-emulation.html
13:44<mjt>so they changed it to "off" by default
13:45<mjt>and that example shows how to turn it on in xorg.conf.d too :)
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13:47<SynrG>mjt: yup. nice
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13:47<mjt>xinput --set-prop 8 "Evdev Middle Button Emulation" 1
13:47<mjt>that works :)
13:47<SynrG>ah, right
13:47<mjt>(8 is my mouse input id :)
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13:47<SynrG>but that doesn't have nice matching that InputClass does
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13:48<mjt>but it's nearly impossible to find anywhere incl. google if you don't know _what_ to search for - emulate3buttons etc does not work.
13:48<SynrG>well, date selects are *very* valuable
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13:48<flamingspinach_>repost: can anyone explain to me why apt thinks this package is upgradeable? http://pastebin.com/Svbz4jKz
13:48<flamingspinach_>according to the definitions of priorities in `man apt_preferences`, a version with priority 100 shouldn't be automatically upgraded to
13:48<SynrG>i've only recently started applying that in my googling for answers. but we're now into metadiscussion of the problem probably better suited to -ot :)
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13:49<oddball42>i have a serious problem and was wondering if anyone else had the same
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13:49<SynrG>yes! yes, i have a serious problem too.
13:49*mjt thanks everyone for help and patience, reconfigures his InputClass, and goes away trying to get the _physical_ middle button to work.
13:49<oddball42>i have lost my usb thimb drive that had my /boot partition and grub installed on for an encrypted lvm
13:50<SynrG>ah. sorry. mine had to do with large amounts of cash.
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13:51<oddball42>i can chroot into it after decrypting it and mount the / partition and i have mounted a new usb thumb drive as /boot and did the grub-install cmd
13:51<oddball42>but at reboot all i get is the grub console no grub entries
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13:53<gnugr>!tell flamingspinach_ -about pinning
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13:56<ComradeHaz`>Hi all. I am chrooted into an install I can't boot.
13:56<ComradeHaz`>I have established I need to downgrade grub to solve my issue but do not know how to do this on 2 counts.
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13:56<Zaba>ComradeHaz`, what's the boot failure?
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13:57<ComradeHaz`>1) I do not know how to use aptitude etc as having chrooted in it seems I cannot access the internet with the chrooted 'machine' as it were
13:58<ComradeHaz`>and 2) I don't know how to downgrade even if the above wasn't an issue
13:58<ComradeHaz`>Zaba: issue is approximately http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535316
13:58<ComradeHaz`>I guess some kind of sanity check grub does before doing the install
13:59<ComradeHaz`>I say approximately as this is a very up to date 'unstable' install so latest kernel etc etc
13:59<ComradeHaz`>No custom kernels or anything lik that though
14:00<flamingspinach_>gnugr: thanks. That errata page is useful.
14:00<gnugr>ok
14:00<flamingspinach_>It's useful in that it tells me that there's probably no answer to my question because apt is fucked up :P
14:01<flamingspinach_>though it is four years old, now that I look at the top of the page... oh well
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14:01<gnugr>flamingspinach_: see that example too : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/debian-squeeze-repositories-709694/
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14:02<gnugr>helps a lot
14:02<flamingspinach_>what example?
14:02<gnugr>go into link
14:03<gnugr>and scrol down
14:03<flamingspinach_>about pinning? I'm not asking how to set up pinning or sources.list, I'm just asking someone to explain the output of apt-policy cache
14:03<gnugr>yes
14:03<gnugr>about a right pinning
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14:04<retrospectacus>flamingspinach_: as per <tum> you may echo 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf
14:04<ComradeHaz`>Anyone able to help me?
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14:04<flamingspinach_>retrospectacus: I am NOT asking how to set up pinning or sources.list, thanks though
14:05<flamingspinach_>:/
14:05<gnugr>what about apt-cache-policy?
14:05<retrospectacus>what are you asking? Your paste seems clear
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14:06<flamingspinach_>retrospectacus: my paste shows that both 0.9.95-7+b1 and 0.9.95-7 are of priority 100, but according to `man apt_preferences`, priority 100 means that apt should never upgrade to it
14:06<Arrowmaster>i think its a documentation error, in every other case if two versions have the same priority the higher version number takes precedence so why does the documentation say that 100 is different?
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14:07<flamingspinach_>Arrowmaster: OK, that probably answers my question. I guess a solution would be to set sid to priority 99
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14:08<flamingspinach_>also, by the way, setting APT::Default-Release causes /etc/apt/preferences to be ignored, so you should probably tell people that when you recommend setting APT::Default-Release :) I ran into that a while ago
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14:08<retrospectacus>sez If two or more versions have the same priority, install the most recent one (that is, the one with the higher version number).
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14:08<ComradeHaz`>Hi all. I am chrooted into an install I can't boot. I have established I need to downgrade grub to solve my issue but do not know how to do this on 2 counts. (Get the same errors on dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc as http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535316 ) 1) I do not know how to use aptitude etc as having chrooted in it seems I cannot access the internet with the chrooted 'machine' as it were
14:09<retrospectacus>also sez 0 < P <=100 causes a version to be installed only if there is no installed version of the package but prefixed with "roughly speaking"
14:09<flamingspinach_>retrospectacus: I was referring to this line "0 < P <=100 causes a version to be installed only if there is no installed version of the package"
14:09<Arrowmaster>flamingspinach_: oh really? i thought preferences had priority over that setting
14:09<flamingspinach_>oh
14:09<ComradeHaz`>and 2) I don't know how to downgrade even if the above wasn't an issue
14:09<retrospectacus>you already have it installed so that doesn't really apply
14:10<Arrowmaster>yeah that <= should probably be a < and the 100 < above it should be 100 <=
14:10<flamingspinach_>Arrowmaster: "The target release can be set on the apt-get command line or in the APT configuration file /etc/apt/apt.conf. Note that this has precedence over any general priority you set in the /etc/apt/preferences file described later, but not over specifically pinned packages."
14:11<flamingspinach_>retrospectacus: exactly, so since I already have it installed, the new one SHOULDN'T be installed, at least according to `man apt_preferences`
14:11<ComradeHaz`>biab
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14:12<Arrowmaster>flamingspinach_: ah thats a bit different than what i thought you ment, setting the target release changing the priorities but i thought you could override that with apt/preferences, but yeah the other part is still true
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14:13<retrospectacus>flamingspinach_: I agree. That seems ...confusing at best
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14:18<mjt>ok, anyone know how to make xterm selection to be insertable into X appes using "Paste" keys?
14:19<retrospectacus>mjt: for that you'd need to use the xterm "Copy" option from e.g. the toolbar or right-click menu - to send it to the "Ctrl-V" clipboard
14:19<retrospectacus>simple selection goes to the "middle click" clipboard (whatever it's called)
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14:20<mjt>secondary buffer i guess
14:20<mjt>or maybe some way to insert (paste) that buffer into an X application using keyboard only
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14:22<retrospectacus>good question; I do not know
14:22<mjt>http://standards.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipboards-latest.txt
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14:25<mjt>what I dislike is that in order to paste text from xterm to my email (thunderbird) for example at the place where my text cursor already is I need to move my hand to take mouse and to position that mouse to this very place _too_
14:25<Class>Hey i need some help with reverse ssh
14:26<zem_>mjt: shitf+insert in terminal then ctrl+v in any application?
14:26<zem_>but you have to make the selection manualy with mouse afaik
14:26<Class>im connecting to the work computer like this ssh destinationuser@middle -p 10002
14:27<Class>but ssh does not run on port 22
14:27<Class>how can i specify port the both ports ?
14:27<mjt>zem_: ctrl+ins actually - yes that works, never thought about explicit "copy" in xterm :)
14:27<mjt>zem_: thanks!
14:27<zem_>:)
14:28<Class>i mean the port of ssh in midle machine and office pc
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14:29<zem_>Class: -p 10002 defines port
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14:29<Class>i know
14:29<mjt>but you have to specify it _before_ destination
14:29<Class>i need to specify to ports at the same time
14:29<retrospectacus>Class: ssh -p10002 destinationuser@middle
14:30<mjt>why two?
14:30<zem_>Class: which two?
14:30<retrospectacus>Class: you haven't explained what you are trying to do there
14:30<Class>becouse i want reverse ssh
14:30<mjt>for reverse ssh you need two ssh _invocations
14:30<mjt>_
14:30<Class>ya i may talking little confusing
14:30<Class>sorry
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14:31<Class>okay i will explain
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14:31<Class>im reverse sshing to a remote machine like this
14:31<Class>ssh destinationuser@middle -p 10002
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14:32<Class>this was working when i use middle pc where ssh was working on 22 port
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14:32<Class>but if ssh is listening on port 62 for instance it does not work
14:32<Class>so i guess i need to specify two ports while connecting
14:33<retrospectacus>Class: local:# ssh -R2022:localhost:22 -p10002 user@middle # then remote:# ssh -p2022 localuser@middle
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14:36<retrospectacus>sshd listening on non-22 is trivial, use the -p option. If you're looking to open a reverse tunnel, that's the way. Like mjt said, you had -p10002 _after_ the host which will not work
14:37<retrospectacus>actually I guess it will work but I would not do that
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14:42<retrospectacus>Class: GatewayPorts option needs to be enabled on middle sshd_config
14:42<retrospectacus>Class: correction local:# ssh -R middle.ip:2022:localhost:22
14:43<retrospectacus>otherwise middle will only listen on loopback 2022 not its public interface
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14:50<ubuntunoobz3>hey i have a server useing ubuntu 11.04 but i have a bad connection and am trying to ge a good one, got an antenna but i need a program that tells me my connects a refreshes every secound
14:50<ubuntunoobz3>and ideas
14:50<ansgar>!ubuntu
14:50<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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14:52<ubuntunoobz3>no1 knows of a program that tells me my network connection and refreshes?
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14:53<ansgar>ubuntunoobz3: Read what dpkg said.
14:53<ubuntunoobz3>ohh wopps wrong server
14:53<ubuntunoobz3>my bad
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15:00<retrospectacus>Class: did it work?
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15:01<Class>retrospectacus, i have not tried yet i will let you know :)
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15:03<jankidudel>Hi, I've got a problem, unrar isn't working, it extracts empty fodlers, anyone can help ? I appreciate very much.
15:05<retrospectacus>jankidudel: are you using unrar or unrar-free?
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15:06<jankidudel>actually when I tried to install unrar, It prompted that it hasn't installation candidate, unrar free likely exists, but now I just installed XArchiver
15:07<jankidudel>retrospectacus: sorry, forgot to add your name
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15:08<retrospectacus>!rar
15:08<dpkg>Roshal ARchive (RAR) is a proprietary archive format used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz. To extract, use either "rar", "unrar" or "p7zip-rar" in non-free, ask me about <non-free sources>. "unrar-free" in main cannot extract RAR3 archives. The rar package can create archives, but costs money (see the license). Install libclamunrar6 (non-free) for support in ClamAV. http://www.rarlab.com/ http://www.unrarlib.org/faq.html
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15:08<retrospectacus>jankidudel: you will most likely need the non-free stuff to deal with RARs you found on the toobz
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15:09<jankidudel>retrospectacus, !rar ?
15:09<jankidudel>retrospectacus, ok
15:09<jankidudel>retrospectacus, I will try.
15:09<mjt>there's also unrar which is free
15:09<mjt>oh, it's non-free too
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15:09<jankidudel>mjt, ok, but i have installed free rar , so why XArchiver isn't working ?
15:10<cthuluh>unrar-free can't extract most rar (v3 I think) archives out there
15:10<jankidudel>mjt, it gives only open folders
15:10<cthuluh>better ask for a zip archive
15:10<mjt>i never used xarchiver or any other gui stuff of this sort
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15:10<jankidudel>cthuluh, it isn't proper solution for that
15:10<retrospectacus>presumably it just calls the underlying command (unrar)
15:10<cthuluh>jankidudel: please explain
15:11<jankidudel>cthuluh, what if the person who gave you .rar doens't care about your problems ?
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15:11<cthuluh>jankidudel: then I (personnally) do not care about what he gave me
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15:12<jankidudel>cthuluh, that would be ok, if he woudn't be your WEB designer, which design you must code :)
15:12*mjt had a problem recently when SAP upgrade for their _aix_ version come in a multi-volume RAR archive
15:12<cthuluh>jankidudel: no, your co-worker *has* to work with you
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15:12<cthuluh>jankidudel: it's not like there are no alternatives
15:12<mjt>(hint: rar isn't available for aix)
15:13<jankidudel>cthuluh, they are ***holes, and they use windows
15:13<mjt>just use command-line version from non-free
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15:13<cthuluh>jankidudel: your web designer makes money working with you, don't forget that. and 7zip for windows is free and handle almost all archive formats
15:14<retrospectacus>jankidudel: just add <non-free> and install unrar
15:14<mjt>rar is very popular in some countries, some think that "archiver" and "rar" are synonyms, something like xerox and a copy.
15:14<mjt>(even if rar is _far_ from first :)
15:14<jhutchins>mjt: Illiteracy is high in some countries too.
15:14<jankidudel>extracting failed :(
15:15<jhutchins>rar
15:15<jankidudel>unrar -x wood.rar , good command ?
15:15<jhutchins>!rar
15:15<dpkg>Roshal ARchive (RAR) is a proprietary archive format used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz. To extract, use either "rar", "unrar" or "p7zip-rar" in non-free, ask me about <non-free sources>. "unrar-free" in main cannot extract RAR3 archives. The rar package can create archives, but costs money (see the license). Install libclamunrar6 (non-free) for support in ClamAV. http://www.rarlab.com/ http://www.unrarlib.org/faq.html
15:15<cthuluh>already triggered
15:16<mjt>man unrar
15:16<jankidudel>jkutchins, what do you mean by illiteracy ?
15:16<cthuluh>I heard that a fsf project has released a free rar v3 extracter, btw. check the fsf
15:16<mjt>-x means exclude
15:17<jhutchins>cthuluh: So I see. Triggered but not read apparantly.
15:17<Arrowmaster>http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/05/11/0324246/Unarchiver-Provides-LGPL-RARv3-Extraction-Tool
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15:17<retrospectacus>jankidudel: unrar x wood.rar (for non-free unrar)
15:17<Arrowmaster>i knew i remembered seeing that on /. but i couldnt find it when searching, luckly it was mentioned on http://www.unrarlib.org/faq.html
15:17<cthuluh>mjt: still not believing what you said about your aix backups, btw 8)
15:18<jankidudel>again, extracting failed using non-free too
15:18<cthuluh>jankidudel: ''type -a unrar''
15:18<mjt>cthuluh: it weren't my and weren't backups, a collegue of mine and update pack (the .rar contains a large update for all platforms they support)
15:19<jankidudel>cthuluh, command not found
15:19<cthuluh>mjt: yes, I did understand they weren't *yours* ;)
15:19<cthuluh>jankidudel: type is a bash builtin
15:19<mjt>i helped him extracting that stuff
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15:20<ssss>hi
15:20<jankidudel>cthuluh, so ? :)
15:20<ssss>ahoj
15:20<mjt>there's also "which" command :)
15:21<ssss>pojebalsom tvoju mamu
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15:21<mjt>(which does not understand shell aliases ofcourse :)
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15:22<cthuluh>jankidudel: ls -l "$(which unrar)" # then
15:22<cthuluh>jankidudel: good luck, and please reconsider what I said about your co-worker
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15:22<retrospectacus>jankidudel: ls -l /etc/alternatives/unrar
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15:23<jankidudel>cthuluh, yes it gives info that I have unrar-free
15:24<mjt>so install unrar-nonfree :)
15:25<retrospectacus>unrar-nonfree is just "unrar"
15:26<retrospectacus>for apt-get
15:27<jankidudel>it gives info that It doesn't have installtion candidate
15:27<jankidudel>probably i need to add to synaptic ?
15:27<retrospectacus>you need to enable non-free repositorys and update
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15:29<Guest4059>Hello. I know this is for live but I'm asking here because chances are someone might probably know. I'm looking for a way to boot a Debian Live ISO file from a Windows partition without removing the WIndows bootloader. Adding another menu option to the Windows boot loader is OK of course. I tried grub4dos but it didn't work as it only supports map and not loopback, which is required for Linux. So my question is, is there any way besides virtu
15:29<Guest4059>alization to run a bootable Linux ISO from a NTFS partition?
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15:30<retrospectacus>burn it
15:30<retrospectacus>boot it
15:30<retrospectacus>done
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15:31<Guest4059>yes I forgot to add that this particular computer neither has a CD drive nor can it boot from USB (BIOS refuses)
15:31<mjt>booting from usb should not be a problem
15:32<mjt>eg http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/
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15:33<mjt>or http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html or others
15:33<jankidudel>it give 'package unrar nonfree is missing, obsolted or available from another source'
15:33<Guest4059>plop didn't work
15:33<Guest4059>btmgr doesn't support USB afaik
15:34<retrospectacus>jankidudel: that's what ''apt-get install unrar'' said?
15:34<jankidudel>retrospectacus, that said apt-get install unrar-nonfree
15:34<mjt>Guest4059: oh, btmgr is for cd/dvd indeed. Well, at least I tried ;)
15:34<retrospectacus>jankidudel: like I said... it's just unrar
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15:35<mjt>Guest4059: i don't know how to boot an .iso _file_ anyway
15:35<jankidudel>retrospectacus, thanks man, it works !
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15:36<retrospectacus>just like magnets
15:36<Guest4059>mjr, grub2 can boot ISO files
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15:36<Guest4059>unfortunately grub4dos can only boot ISO files that live completely in the initrd
15:37<Guest4059>(*where the contents are completely in the initrd)
15:37<retrospectacus>grub2 can also boot a Windoze loader
15:37<mjt>that's quite understandable
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15:37<Guest4059>grub2 can boot any ISO using the loopback option.
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15:37<Guest4059>basically that's what I need but grub2 won't work with the NTFS partition, so I have to use grub4dos and this one doesn't support loopback :p
15:38<mjt>so you can backup your current boot sector, install grub 2, and restore it when done.
15:38<mjt>sigh
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15:45<koosha>Debian should make GNOME 3.0 available for download.
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15:46<retrospectacus>koosha: they will.
15:46<koosha>when are they going to do that?
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15:47<themill>!wir
15:47<dpkg>wir is, like, When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>.
15:47<retrospectacus>koosha: when it's ready. I think it's in experimental already. It will make it into stable when it's ...stable
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15:47<retrospectacus>wheezy will release with gnome3 I believe
15:47<koosha>that would be nice.
15:47<mjt>Guest4059: out of curiocity, what's in the .iso ?
15:48<Guest4059>a Debian Live "sister" project
15:48<daemonkeeper>Well, there are one or two days left until Wheezy
15:48<Guest4059>basically Debian Live with some modifications
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15:49<mjt>Guest4059: you can try making it a hybrid image (mkhybrid iirc) and writing it to a separate partition. But it - most likely - will need some tweaks to boot this way since I doubt it's prepared to find iso9960 filesystem in a partition :)
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15:50<koosha>I'm a graduated software engineering student. I'd love to contribute to Debian, but don't know where to start? Every time I look at the documentation I feel confused about the architecture and what I should do as a contributor! Can any body help me?
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15:51<Guest4059>mjt, thank you. That's a good idea. Maybe it will work, I'll try later.
15:51<Guest4059>It's already a hybrid image and just now I'm not so sure if it will work to dd it to a partition instead of a drive, but I'll check that out.
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15:52<mjt>Guest4059: but you out to be very careful since apparently this your device has no way to recover boot issues :)
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15:52<Guest4059>koosha, probably you could look at some easy bug reports and try to fix.
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15:53<Guest4059>mjr :) yes. I have to remotely instruct a person that has no Linux knowledge at all to do it. I already see the total data loss incoming ;))
15:53<mjt>s/mjr/mjt/ :)
15:53<Guest4059>:) sry
15:54<koosha>Guest4059, it's the idea present in every community for beginners!
15:54<koosha>but thank you
15:54<Guest4059>koosha, from my experience it's a good way to get used to the architecture and still having fun reading documentation ;)
15:56<shundake>Hello there
15:56<koosha>Guest4059, hmm. How long have you been involved in the community? What are you working on?
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15:56<shundake>Anybody could help me with a ATI R6xx HDMI sound card that doesn't output any sound?
15:56<Guest4059>Guest3176, I don't do anything for Debian :)
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15:57<Guest4059>koosha, I don't do anything for Debian :)
15:57<Kennix>What is the fastest file system for Squeeze for local file transfers above 4GB using 10K raptor hard drives...no raid just an insane amount of data to copy from one disk to another?
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15:58<koollman>Kennix: mostly large files ? probably xfs. ext4 should be decent too
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15:58<Guest4059>Kennix, ext2 is usually the fastest common file system, as far as I know.
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15:58<Kennix>Ok, what tool could I use to benchmark?
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15:59<Kennix>between those?
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15:59<Guest4059>Kennix, google for delltechcenter ext2 ext3 ext4 perormance
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15:59<Guest4059>*performance
16:00<Kennix>ok, thank you
16:00<koosha>Guest4059, so are you involved in any community?
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16:02<SynrG>koosha, Guest4059: you're welcome to join #debian-offtopic for social chat. just a gentle reminder this channel is for support
16:02<koosha>SynrG, OK. sorry!!
16:03<SynrG>no problem :)
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16:12<Kennix>used hdparm -t and got this read out ..../dev/sdb1: Timing buffered disk reads: 238 MB in 1.02 seconds = 98.78 MB/sec
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16:12<Kennix>sorry, wrong box
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16:18<ballison>i have a really stupid question.... but i don't know how to do it. I have a IP-KVM that requires you connect to it via serial connection and run "HyperTerminal" on windows to connect to it and configure it. What is the Linux version of "HyperTerminal" ?
16:19<ballison>it's a straight serial com
16:19<petemc>you can use screen
16:19<Kennix>Synergy...
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16:19<Kennix>or you can use the GUI for it...Quicksynergy
16:19<shundake>Anybody?
16:20<ballison>Kennix: Syergy is for running multiple computers with 1 moutse keyboard and screen. that has nothing to do with terminal emunation
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16:20<ballison>petemc: screen? how?
16:20<petemc>screen /dev/ttyS0
16:21<Kennix>Oh, misread the question...wow, thanks for clearing that up for me ballison
16:21<Kennix>What a guy...or gal?
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16:22<retrospectacus>ballison: I've used minicom for this in the past
16:22<retrospectacus>but it is pretty annoying to use
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16:22<shundake>So... who knows to tell why i get this warning at boot? "startpar: service(s) skipped : dirmngr"
16:22<retrospectacus>!warnings
16:22<dpkg>Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy.
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16:23<ballison>restro: Yep - i'm thinking screen /dev/serialfdsfs will work.
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16:23<retrospectacus>great
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16:26<Kennix>ballison, you running an SSH server?
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16:29<Osiris_X>is there a kernel channel on OFTC?
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16:31<streuner_>#kernelnewbies
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16:32<ifvoid>hi!
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16:32<ifvoid>I'm having some ipv6 firewalling troubles
16:32<ifvoid>see http://pastebin.com/Ei8EcxKt
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16:32<ifvoid>anyone got an idea why these icmp6 packets aren't matching the first rule in INPUT?
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16:37<babilen>ifvoid: Try #netfilter or ##networking on irc.freenode.net
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16:38<ifvoid>thanks
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16:41<ballison>retro: I still don't know how to do this. i connected the IP-KVM to the serial port of my computer. i ran minicom - then what?
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16:45<shundake>Somebody know how to fix the no sound on output of HDMI with "ATI R6xx HDMI"?
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16:46<ifvoid>shundake: which kernel?
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16:47<shundake>2.6.38-2-686
16:47<ifvoid>hmm
16:47<shundake>ifvoid: 2.6.38-2-686
16:47<ifvoid>should work, i think
16:47<shundake>ifvoid: I thought it too
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16:50<shundake>ifvoid: So... I've tried to create a file in /etc/modprobe.d named sound.conf with "options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=(many numbers)"
16:50<shundake>ifvoid: but no success
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16:55<ballison>how do i connect to the serial port? minicom is trying to connect to /dev/tty8 - how do i know if that's the serial port?
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16:56<towo`>/dev/ttyS0 would be the com port 0
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16:57<ballison>towo: that's what i got from securitty too - thanks!
16:57<ballison>conencted now !
16:57<c-moi>hi
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17:00<debrabander>Il y a quelqu'un ici?
17:00<mercutio22>say I want to make a shortcut to command line script that lists folders inside the home folder. How can I have the terminal not close when the script is finished?
17:01<ompaul>!fr
17:01<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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17:08<amphi>mercutio22: the manpage for your terminal emulator will tell you; -hold for some
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17:12<simonlnu>ah, awesome
17:12<eightyeight>bummer. he didn't compromise my irssi
17:12<Sami345>00:11 [debian] Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall)
17:12<Sami345>00:11 [debian] DCC SEND from xe [0.0.0.0 port 0]: lolololololololol [0B bytes] requested in channel #debian
17:12<eightyeight>better luck next time
17:12<simonlnu>Sami345: we know...
17:12<eightyeight>Sami345: yes. he was killed, as is present with his quit message
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17:13<simonlnu>has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. ...
17:13<ziirish>+ /ignore
17:13<ballison>retro: thanks for your help. that worked
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17:14<ballison>"minicom -s " and then selected the correct com port and it worked. i was able to configure the device. I love it when they tell you to do things like "run HyperTerminal" as if we all run windows
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17:22<Maulkin>wqhois Sami345
17:23<Sami345>Maulkin, ?
17:23<Maulkin>Sami345: Please don't repeast spam like that, you almost got akilled.
17:23<Sami345>spam?
17:24<Maulkin>Sami345: the dcc line
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17:24<Sami345>I don't think two lines of text is spam :D
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17:24<Maulkin>Sami345: Hey, I almost killed you. Your call :)
17:25<Sami345>Are you an ircop :o
17:25<Maulkin>Yes. See my /whois
17:25<Sami345>lol nice ip :D
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18:10<btbaus>hi. need some help. trying to read the squeeze instillation dvd on a computer with a fresh install of squeeze installed with cdroms. im new to linux thanks1
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18:12<ompaul>btbaus: trying to read it? why
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18:12<ompaul>btbaus: more to the point, it is an iso which is a file system all to itself
18:12<btbaus>install the package telnetd
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18:13<btbaus>yeah dvd set of debian 6.0
18:14<ompaul>btbaus: has the box an internet connection?
18:14<btbaus>no
18:14<ompaul>then if you have the dvd in place and that is all you have you do this "su -" you give the root password and then you type "aptitude install telnetd" if it is on the dvd it will install
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18:15<ompaul>btbaus: that assumes you installed from that DVD
18:15<btbaus>i installed from cdrom
18:16<retrospectacus>!apt-cdrom
18:16<dpkg>apt-cdrom is probably used to add a new CDROM to APT's list of available sources: man apt-cdrom. See also <apt-cdrom_external>.
18:16<retrospectacus>btbaus: why install telnetd? It's extremely insecure
18:17<btbaus>i just wanna try it out. im new to all this
18:17<babilen>I would rather recommend to try SSH
18:17<babilen>!tell btbaus -about introduction
18:18<btbaus>okay thanks
18:18<babilen>btbaus: The Debian reference is a good place to start, as are the general cli tutorials :)
18:18<babilen>If you have specific questions just come here and ask. Welcome btw.
18:18<btbaus>nice, thank u
18:19<daemonkeeper><general cli tutorial>
18:19<retrospectacus>btbaus: you may also learn a LOT from the dpkg bot who just told you about introduction. just talk to him, say "aptitude" or whatever and he may tell you all about it
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18:23<btbaus>ive added 3 cdroms to apt's list and apt-get cant locate the package, i have the first 4 squeeze dvd available and thought it might have the package since they hold so much more information. but i cant access the dvd-rom drive. i ve tired mounting /dev/dvd but it says special device doenst exist
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18:32<ZykoticK9_>btbaus, is mounting /dev/dvd is failing you may want to look at "ls -l /dev/dvd" and verify that it's actually pointing to your optical drive
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18:34<btbaus>oh i see. well it it isnt pointing to the drive, how do i find out what is what is pointing to the drive or how can i make dev/dvd point to the drive? thanks for ur help
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18:35<retrospectacus>btbaus: what does /etc/fstab say about an optical drive?
18:35<ZykoticK9_>btbaus, most likely it's pointing to sr0 which is typically correct... I'm not really sure what you should do if it's wrong? But that "special device doesn't exist" sure suggests it isn't pointing to your drive.
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18:37<btbaus>ls -l /dev/dvd says device file doesnt exist, sr0 is my cdrom drive
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18:38<ZykoticK9_>btbaus, if /dev/dvd doesn't actually exist, that would explain why trying to use that path to mount is failing
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18:39<btbaus>cat /etc/fstab mentions nothing about a dvd drive, only cdrom which is /dev/scd0
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18:39<ZykoticK9_>btbaus, do you have a /dev/cdrom? are you sure this is infact a dvd drive?
18:39<btbaus>how to i get my dvdrom working?
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18:41<btbaus>i have a /dev/scd0 which is mounted at /media/cdrom0 and /dev/fd0 which is mounted at /media/floppy0
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18:41<btbaus>the rest of the contents of fstab is about hard drives
18:42<ZykoticK9_>btbaus, if /dev/scd0 is mounted to /media/cdrom0 - you should be able to use/access the cd/dvd through /media/cdrom0
18:43<btbaus>so /dev/scd0 = two optical drives?
18:43<retrospectacus>you need to add a line for the dvd. something like /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
18:44<retrospectacus>btbaus: /dev/sdc0 == cdrom and /dev/sr0 == dvd
18:44<retrospectacus>correct?
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18:49<btbaus>mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt says no medium found. i tried again with the cdrom and it sr0 controls the cdrom drive to
18:49<btbaus>how can i find out which /dev/??? = dvd drive
18:50<btbaus>/dev/scd1 doesnt work
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18:51<imond>hi I'm 1st time here have a problem with vlc+xvba video accel
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18:53<retrospectacus>!tell imond about ask
18:53<retrospectacus>btbaus: I wanna say this info is in the output of ''dmesg'' but I'm not sure what to grep for
18:54<retrospectacus>I don't have any optical drives on my machine
18:54<btbaus>thanks ill try and find out. any other ideas
18:56<imond>cpu turion gpu amd 4330 installed debian wheezy from scratch with fglrx-glx, xvba-va-driver, vlc using only deb packadges. The video accel worked ok (have a backup). Then at 20's of april after some major updates of xserver-xorg-* and fglrx-* video acceleration was broken (vlc crashes with "extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0".")
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18:58<btbaus>dmesg | grep -i dvd = nothing
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19:00<retrospectacus>imond: any errors or warnings about dri in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
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19:02<retrospectacus>btbaus: anything appear at the end of ''dmesg'' after inserting/removing a disk in either drive?
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19:03<imond>retrospectacus: nothing specific. nothing marked as errors, also glxgears run ok
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19:05<retrospectacus>imond: nothing about "Disabling DRI."? Not sure if this is "out of date" but you can put Load "dri" in the Modules section of xorg.conf
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19:06*retrospectacus back in a while
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19:08<imond>retrospectacus: nothing like that. LoadModule "dri" is already in Xorg.0.log
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19:14<imond>retrospectacus:
19:14<imond>glxinfo | grep rendering
19:14<imond>direct rendering: Yes
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19:16<tobialake>connect irc.lulzco.org
19:16<tobialake>oh boy
19:16<tobialake>hello pple
19:17<tobialake>anyone there?
19:17<themill>tobialake: no
19:17<daemonkeeper>We're all on irc.lulzco.org
19:17<imond>tobialake: know anything about xvba?
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19:18<tobialake>nope
19:18<tobialake>i'm a n00b
19:18<tobialake>just installed smuxi
19:18<btbaus>so i think the dvd drive is bad. i removed it to check the jumper settings and found that something i loose inside the drive. i dont think thats normal
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19:19<retrospectacus>imond: sorry I'm out of ideas
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19:20<tobialake>Ha fuck smuxi
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19:20<tobialake>making me join this shitty quiet place
19:21<imond>retrospectacus: do you use "GPU acceleration (experimental)" in vlc? does it work on mpeg2/mpeg4 videos?
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19:22<retrospectacus>tobialake: this is just a support channel. If you don't like that go somewhere else
19:22<retrospectacus>imond: nope. I just use mplayer on the command line
19:22<tobialake>support for what
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19:23<themill>tobialake: /topic
19:23<retrospectacus>tobialake: debian
19:23<imond>Any ati+vlc users here at this channel?
19:23<btbaus>anybody have a spare pata dvd drive for sale or freeeeee
19:23<themill>tobialake: if you want social chatter, perhaps try #moocows
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19:24<retrospectacus>btbaus: lol
19:24<tobialake>ok
19:24<cthuluh>btbaus: ebay surely has
19:24<tobialake>I got a problem
19:24<cthuluh>tobialake: on ubuntu?
19:25<tobialake>with VLC freezing my ubuntu during certain movies
19:25<themill>!ubuntuirc tobialake
19:25<dpkg>tobialake: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
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19:25<cthuluh>now you can leave that shitty channel :]
19:25<tobialake>Thank you very much
19:25<retrospectacus>themill had that one ready to fire
19:26<Whush>hi, what's the best terminal emulator for X that has Unicode support (and is available in the debian repos)?
19:26<rah>Whush: xterm
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19:26<Whush>xterm supports unicode?
19:26<themill>!best
19:26<dpkg>Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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19:27<rah>[00:26] <Whush> xterm supports unicode?
19:27<rah>heh
19:27<Whush>s/the best/your preferred
19:27<rah>classic
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19:27<Whush>:(
19:27<Whush>forgive me for being unknowledgeable of these things
19:27<themill>Whush: konsole. Did that really help? Did you really want 442 people answering?
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19:27<retrospectacus>is there a terminal that doesn't support unicode?
19:27<rah>Whush: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html#getxterm
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19:28<Whush>maybe themill, because then I could tally them all up and hope that the top one is nice enough to use.
19:28<themill>dpkg: tell Whush about popcon
19:28<themill>Whush: no... we don't really want that.
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19:29<themill>retrospectacus: given the existence of rxvt-unicode... "rxvt"?
19:29<rah>Whush: http://pkl.net/~node/misc/xterm-unicode.png
19:29<Whush>ah right.
19:29<Whush>well I get the point, thanks for your help :-)
19:29<retrospectacus>well I am using "gnome-terminal" that came with debian and it seems to support it
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19:31<rah>Whush: XTerm*font: -*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-*-140-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
19:31<rah>fyi
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19:55<Aleric>How can I configure (add) a new ethernet card for DHCP?
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19:56<retrospectacus>Aleric: just add it to the interfaces file
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20:14<Aleric>retrospectacus: thanks. It doesn't recognize eth0 though.
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20:15<Aleric>My motherboard has two ethernet plugs (RJ45) and eth1 was being used. So I added:
20:15<Aleric>iface eth0 inet dhcp
20:15<Aleric>but when I run 'ifup --verbose eth0' is says:
20:15<Aleric>eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
20:16<retrospectacus>what's ifconfig -a say
20:16<retrospectacus>any eth0? ethN?
20:16<Aleric>that lists, br0, eth1, lo and virbro
20:16<retrospectacus>might easily be eth2 or 3 or sth
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20:17<retrospectacus>what's virbro?
20:17<Aleric>I haven't the slightes clue :/
20:18<retrospectacus>if you plug that new NIC into a switch does it light up? What's dmesg|tail say?
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20:20<Aleric>retrospectacus: it doesn't light up and dmesg doesn't print anything new
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20:21<retrospectacus>if it doesn't light up it may not be seen by the bios
20:21<retrospectacus>or it's broken, the cable is broken or wrong (crossover), or the switch/port is broken
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20:22<Aleric>I was actually surprised to see a second plug :p
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20:22<Aleric>I had not considered that my motherboard would have two gigabit lan connectors.
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20:23<Aleric>maybe it's just a plug, but nothing behind it? :/
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20:24<retrospectacus>most likely it's disabled in the BIOS
20:24<Aleric>Weird
20:24<Aleric>I guess I'll reboot :/
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20:37<xwd>Hello! Today I decided to upgrade from lenny to squeeze on my EeePC netbook.
20:37<xwd>I'm having some trouble though.
20:37<xwd>Networking won't work.
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20:38<xwd>Also Xfce is behaving strangely.
20:39<sergiorey>hola gente
20:39<xwd>The panels are in windows instead of being actually panels.
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20:54<damentz>hey guys, is ntfsprogs being phased out?
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20:54<damentz>i noticed it's been in conflict in debian unstable for 2 weeks now
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20:55<bones_was_here>i would imagine its ntfs-3g thats being phased out (in favour of in-kernel ntfs support)
20:55<slayer_>irc://irc.rizon.net/Silex-Fansubs
20:55<mentor>Is the ftp-master queue still huge?
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21:36<d4rkh4v0k>Hi, how do I get an application to automatically start when my machine boots?
21:36<aussa>hi, how do I set the time for the monitor to switch off after some time inactive? it goes off after 10 min
21:37<d4rkh4v0k>System Preferences, than power management
21:37<d4rkh4v0k>I think
21:37<socratesxd>hi, how can i see a log from apt-get?
21:37<d4rkh4v0k>apt-get -v ? verbose mode
21:38<d4rkh4v0k>apt-get -q
21:38<aussa>I have changed it in the power manager settings, I use xfce, but it doesn't work
21:39<d4rkh4v0k>type apt-get --help socratesxd
21:39<d4rkh4v0k>I don't know sorry
21:39<d4rkh4v0k>I've never used xfce
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21:39<aussa>thanks
21:39<Aleric>d4rkh4v0k: System Preferences, Startup Applications, maybe? That's gnome though I think
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21:40<d4rkh4v0k>Yeah, I figured it out, thanks I had to create a launcher with the command gnome-panel cuz I screwed mine up somehow
21:41<d4rkh4v0k>well good bye thanks everyone
21:41<d4rkh4v0k>time to go
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21:41<xwd>I upgraded from lenny to squeeze and Xfce started behaving strangely
21:41<xwd>Panels show up in winfows
21:41<xwd>*windows
21:42<sney>did you reboot?
21:42<aussa>I'm using a asus laptop, its integrated mic doesn't seem to work, how do I configure/fix it?
21:42<xwd>I had this problem too
21:42<xwd>Hold on a sec I found link
21:42<xwd>Like a year ago
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21:43<xwd>I have a EeePC 701
21:44<xwd>http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=25223#p25223
21:44<aussa>thank you :d
21:44<xwd>Might not be the same problem, I had the mic echoed out through the speakers
21:44<aussa>:D
21:44<xwd>But it'll probably work
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21:45<aussa>ok, I'll try it
21:45<xwd>Did you upgrade from lenny to squeeze? Networking stopped working for me
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21:46<aussa>no, I didn't :S
21:46<Aleric>hehe, I really get a kick out of this... downloaded a movie in under one minute :*)
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21:47<Aleric>Kinda gives ya the feeling as if the lights dim a bit due to temporary power drain, heheh.
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22:29<krimzonstarr>I have a question regarding using a crypto_LUKS /home partition from a previous Squeeze install on a new Squeeze install. Any assistance would be appreciated!
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22:46<friendlyfrank>what do we use ? unable to use mail command?
22:47<chealer>friendlyfrank: what?
22:47<krimzonstarr>I have a question regarding using a crypto_LUKS /home partition from a previous Squeeze install on a new Squeeze install. Any assistance would be appreciated!
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22:48<friendlyfrank>previous use deb4 and mail was a basic command it seems to be unavailable on 6
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22:49<friendlyfrank>is mail available for deb6 or is depreciated or part of another package?
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23:17<krimzonstarr>I have a question regarding using a crypto_LUKS /home partition from a previous Squeeze install on a new Squeeze install. Any assistance would be appreciated!
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23:22<Newbumz>Hi
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23:23<Newbumz>Anyone know of a good how-to to replace Neuvou with Nvidia old proprietary driver?
23:23<chealer>friendlyfrank: it is available and provided by the mailx virtual package
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23:27<chealer>Newbumz: what do you mean by "Nvidia old proprietary driver"?
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