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00:09<Tiff>"--enable-ipv6 \" is given, yes
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00:11<th_>Tiff, thanks for the info
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01:15<chl501>Does anyone know any open source tool/ software which can be used to draw blueprint of portable weather station?
01:16<chl501>the weather station may looks like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcntG74x1Q
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01:20<sosaited>Has anyone successfully ran Nessus (for Debian 5, as that is the latest available on Tenable.com) on Squeeze?
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01:28<seeS>hi there, ive got one of these annoying double video card laptops. i can get xorg working on the slower card but not the faster on
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01:31<nyov>sosaited: nessus is dead, search for OpenVAS
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01:35<nyov>sorry I said 'dead'. hope I didn't step on anyones toes. it's just not really open anymore :/
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01:48<nyov>seeS: i believe you have to enable the other card in the BIOS first, if it doesn't show up in lspci
01:49<nyov>after that, install the right video driver (and firmware) for your card
01:49<seeS>it appears in lspci
01:50<seeS>and in vga_switcheroo
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01:52<nyov>what card is it?
01:53<seeS>AMD Radeon HD 6700M
01:53<seeS>aticonfig says it cannot find it
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01:55<nyov>so you already got the right firmware installed?
01:55<nyov>I don't really know about ati/amd cards
01:55<seeS>there was ati firmware in kernel-nonfree or whatever the package is called
01:56<nyov>could you paste the radeon's lspci -nn line?
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01:59<seeS>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Whistler XT [AMD Radeon HD 6700M Series] [1002:6740]
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02:00<nyov>,pciid 1002:6740
02:00<judd>[1002:6740] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:6740 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx', 'snd-hda-intel' module.
02:01<nyov>huh
02:01<seeS>kmuto says it kows about it
02:02<seeS>i got a feeling that fglrx in debian is too old
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02:02<nyov>why?
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02:03<seeS>it uses 11.4
02:04<seeS>bah, the wiki has the wrong link
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02:04<seeS>ok, 11.4 doesnt support it, as it says from the amd site
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02:05<nyov>hmm
02:06<seeS>11.5 does, but the ati scripts are broken
02:06<Kal>debian uses bleeding edge technology!
02:06<Kal>yeaaahoooo
02:06<seeS>well, at least they dont use debhelper version 5 scripts
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02:20<seeS>im ging to try the generic radeon drivers in debian now
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02:26<nyov>seeS: I can't recommend it, but here are some notes on 11.5 on wheezy, http://systemsaviour.com/?p=339
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02:26<nyov>seeS: but read the bottom first
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02:28<seeS>yeah it says he doesnt need it, but i know i do
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02:30<nyov>seeS: i got that, but also if you run squeeze standard kernel, big lock should still be in.
02:31<nyov>which means it boils down to installing AMDs driver package :P
02:31<seeS>the debian radeon drivers crash
02:32<nyov>sorry. file a bug report
02:33<nyov>make sure it's not some fglrx issue from leftovers?
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02:33<seeS>yeah, i was wondering how i can checkthat
02:34<nyov>xorg.0.log probably, and what's in xorg.conf, if you got one
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02:35<nyov>aticonfig probably created an xorg.conf
02:35<seeS>the xorg log looks all happy and good, until the sig 11
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02:35<nyov>so you changed xorg.conf to use the radeon driver?
02:36<seeS>yep, thats about the only thing in it
02:36<nyov>maybe purge fglrx-dkms stuff
02:36<seeS>i purged anything with fglrx in it
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02:38<nyov>well, sadly I'm really not the right person on video cards stuff
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02:38<seeS>aww :(
02:38<nyov>but, unless there's still some driver loaded, you should be good
02:40<seeS>ooh, ivenever used the gui reportbug
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02:42<seeS>well... that sucks. reportbug crashed!
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02:43<nyov>now you can report a bug against reportbug :P
02:45<ugandan32340>how can i search for channels
02:47<nyov>ugandan32340: what channels?
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02:47<ugandan32340>hacking
02:47<seeS>hacking channels eh?
02:47<ugandan32340>yaah
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02:49<seeS>i suspect the whole idea of those sort of channels is if you need to know you shouldnt be there
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02:50<ugandan32340>where should i go to try and get my foot in the door with those sort of channels
02:50<ugandan32340>channels/people
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02:51<seeS>no idea, i found the whole idea of hacking juvenile when you didnt need to use compiliers any more
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02:51<seeS>but the problem is the name has many meanings
02:52<ugandan32340>is assange juvenile? what do you mean "didn't need to use compilers any more?"
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02:52<ugandan32340>the word has many connotations - agreed.
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02:53<seeS>ahh by assange was hacking, actually more cracking many years ago now
02:53<ugandan32340>i prefer to live in the gray area between hacking and cracking
02:53<th_>lol
02:54<th_>anyway, pdnsd works with ipv6. just need to add run_ipv4=off; in the config
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03:07<seeS>nyov: its compiling now
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03:07<nyov>seeS: what is?
03:08<seeS>fglrx, i needed a patch that is mentioned on the page you put here
03:08<seeS>the big kernel block
03:09<nyov>seeS: you running some kernel bigger than .37?
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03:10<seeS>38 yes
03:10<nyov>oh okay
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03:13<devil>seeS: while you're at it, kick AMD and tell them about BKL :)
03:15<nyov>seeS: did you file that readon bug report?
03:15<seeS>hmm, it didnt work
03:15<seeS>yes nyov
03:15<nyov>nice
03:15<nyov>seeS: what didn't work?
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03:16<seeS>fglrx didnt work
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03:22<seeS>or maybe it did
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03:25<seeS>i think it might of worked :) its certainly looking that way
03:26<devil>seeS: glxinfo | grep -i direct will tell you
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03:26<seeS>yep, it is L)
03:27<devil>ok, now go kick AMD :)
03:27<devil>tell 'em, big kerlel log is a dead horse
03:27<devil>lock, even
03:28<nyov>gentoo apparently just removed that, based on some ubuntu patches
03:29<nyov>http://bugs.gentoo.org/368081
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03:34<seeS>thanks all, time to go
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03:35<K0JIbKA>Hi all!
03:38<ugandan32340>lets say i want to write a computer virus for a windows machine that will act on the hardware level in lisp. could someone private message me about this
03:39<devil>ugandan32340: wrong channel.
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03:41<ugandan32340>how do i search for channels
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03:45<kenyon>ugandan32340: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/
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03:55<K0JIbKA>Debian Squeeze is still acting strange while boot up. From Grub menu I have to choose (Restore) kernel for root boot up. Then I start X, logout, exit, and log on as regular user. It happened after I removed USB 3G modem as it didn't let system to halt. Any suggestions? Please take note that I'm at Vista system to communicate here. Use same laptop for both OSes
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03:56<K0JIbKA>I have opportunity to see log files from Total Commander in Linux partition
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04:01<th_>what happens if you select the normal kernel?
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04:23<K0JIbKA>th_: sorry for delay. it hangs the whole system. no response from keyboard. no screen. no shell. nothing. only Caps-Lock keeps blinking. I have to force Power down to shut down the box and then repeat all over again
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04:25<jm_>K0JIbKA: blinking keyboard LED-s indicate kernel panic
04:25<K0JIbKA>jm_: how to solve it?
04:26<jm_>K0JIbKA: well first you need to find out some details about it, the best method is to use serial console, sometimes netconsole also works
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04:27<K0JIbKA>jm_: even got no idea what these consoles are about:-[
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04:28<jm_>K0JIbKA: you can find info about this on the net, several howtos
04:29<K0JIbKA>jm_: trying at the moment, thanks
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04:31<jm_>!netconsole
04:31<dpkg>netconsole is a Linux kernel driver which logs kernel <printk> messages over UDP. It is commonly used to capture system crash information. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt . See also <serial console>.
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04:37<K0JIbKA>jm_: does that include some physical networking reconfigurations?
04:37<Zaba>usually, no
04:37<jm_>K0JIbKA: no, that is needed for serial console
04:37<K0JIbKA>ok
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04:57<K0JIbKA>jm_: well, I'm back online using same way I described before: root, logout, regular user. Can I use netconsole now? all logs are available at wish
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04:58<K0JIbKA>Kernel bug diagnostic keeps sending me link with my info been sent on http://www.kerneloops.org/submitresult.php?number=3335131
04:59<K0JIbKA>but there's nothing over there
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05:00<K0JIbKA>I'm using Debian Squeeze. 6.0.1. Gnome DE and I have kernel panic. As well as panick attack because of it
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05:08<jm_>K0JIbKA: netconsole might only be useful while you reproduce the problem for you
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05:16<delliott>Hi, when I select System... Shut Down... Shut Down from the gnome menu, my system reboots; when I select System... Shut Down ... Restart, my system shuts down. What could be causing this problem? I am running Debian Testing, gnome-desktop-environment 1:2.30+10, and the 2.6.38-2-686 kernel.
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05:17<mjt>How one is supposed to pronounce "K0JIbKA" if not "Nikolay" ? :)
05:17<mjt>sorry for being off-topic, can't resist :)
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05:23<fosser_josh>i installed debian on dekstop on having 2 lan cards my external lan card(dlink) working properly but after installing external lan card my onboard lan card nt working. plz help out. in networkmanager it says device not managed
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05:24<freezer>hi
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05:25<freezer>Pidgin in squeeze is not working anymore for ICQ
05:25<freezer>and there doesn't seem to be a backport?!
05:25<freezer>alternatives?
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05:27<gsimmons>freezer: Try the workaround for v2.7.3 ; /msg dpkg pidgin
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05:28<fosser_josh>i installed debian on dekstop on having 2 lan cards my external lan card(dlink) working properly but after installing external lan card my onboard lan card nt working. plz help out. in networkmanager it says device not managed
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05:29<freezer>gsimmons, doesnt work
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05:34<fosser_josh>my onboard lan card(RTL8101E/RTL8102E) not working as i installed external lancard(VT6105/VT6106S)
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05:41<cc_>大家好
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05:42<fosser_josh>i installed debian on dekstop on having 2 lan cards my external lan card(dlink) working properly but after installing external lan card my onboard lan card nt working. plz help out. in networkmanager it says device not managed
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05:44<fosser_josh>also i hav one more problem while updating repository. i am getting this error http://pastebin.com/VTYpCgBi
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05:45<wintellect>fosser_josh: "device not managed" sometimes implies the device is already configured by another app and therefore networkmanager cannot take ownership of it
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05:45<wintellect>does "ifconfig -a" show it as configured?
05:46<fosser_josh>wintellect: it gives eth0 and eth 1
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05:46<mrjhon1978>hi
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05:47<wintellect>fosser_josh: can you show the resutls in pastebin?
05:48<wintellect>NTM - that implies two network cards
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05:48<wintellect>hi mrjhon1978
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05:50<fosser_josh>wintellect: http://pastebin.com/AiJNPLNw
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05:53<fosser_josh>wintellect: wat to do
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05:55<kusanagi>my wheezy repository has gone offline and apt-get is trying to install everything from sid. Is there a way to auto select another wheezy repository in case the main one is offline?
05:56<fosser_josh>wen i put n/w cable in onboard lan card i cant able to access internet but if i put in external lan card i get internet access
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05:57<fosser_josh>wintellect: wen i put n/w cable in onboard lan card i cant able to access internet but if i put in external lan card i get internet access
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06:02<fosser_josh>how to configure onboard network card? after instaling exernal network card it stops working
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06:05<wintellect>fosser_josh: can you get the output of "ifconfig -a" to pastebin?
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06:07<fosser_josh>wintellect: http://pastebin.com/AiJNPLNw
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06:09<fosser_josh>wintellect: u got it
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06:11<fosser_josh>wintellect: is that link working or should i send u another link
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06:16<fosser_josh>wintellect: hey reply something did u got the link or not
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06:22<wintellect>fosser_josh: sorry, looking now
06:22<wintellect>fosser_josh: are you on IPv6?
06:23<fosser_josh>no
06:23<wintellect>seems like eth1 has an IPv6 addr
06:23<fosser_josh>how can change it
06:23<wintellect>fosser_josh: PM
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06:27<K0JIbKA>Nothing worked out. Still kernel panic:-(
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06:39<COZZA1968>!list
06:39<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
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07:06<will>Hello.
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07:07<will>Can someone advise me a window manager able to move buttons anywhere in the frame of the window?
07:15<petemc>buttons? do you mean icons?
07:16<will>Any image used as a button for menu, maximize, etc functions.
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07:20<will>It turns out Metacity doesn't offer many possibilities for the placement of buttons that's why I'm looking for an other window manager.
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07:32<valdyn>!sawfish
07:32<dpkg>Sawfish (formerly Sawmill) is a <window manager> written in C and Lisp, configurable using a Lisp-based scripting language (Librep). Previously the default in <GNOME> prior to <Metacity> in GNOME 2.2. http://sawfish.wikia.com/FAQ http://sawfish.wikia.com/ #sawfish on irc.freenode.net.
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07:33<will>What about Mutter?
07:34<valdyn>thats supposed to be a reimplementation of metacity
07:35<will>With its limits?
07:35<valdyn>guess so
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07:38<will>Why the GNOME project replaced Sawfish by Metacity if it's less powerfull?
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07:39<valdyn>will: gnome isnt trying to be powerful in your sense
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07:40<will>But Metacity limits my freedom...
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07:40<will>:-D
07:40<valdyn>will: so?
07:40<valdyn>will: as does gcalculator compared to mathlab
07:41<will>But the tools don't have the same goal.
07:41<valdyn>will: yea
07:41<valdyn>will: better comparison would be gedit vs emacs, I guess
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07:45<codingenesis>i want to install a fresh debian linux so any one can guide how to partition the distro so as i can get all of my data in case of crash
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07:45<codingenesis>so if i install again i can use that partion again !!
07:46<valdyn>codingenesis: just use one seperate partition for /home
07:47<codingenesis>k
07:48<codingenesis>can i use /home partition when i install a new one??
07:48<codingenesis>so that same home partition is always there with me..
07:49<valdyn>codingenesis: that's what i said
07:49<codingenesis>valdyn: do all the softwares i installed get installed on home partition?
07:49<valdyn>codingenesis: no
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07:49<codingenesis>valdyn: in home partition only the user data is saved right??
07:50<valdyn>codingenesis: yes
07:50<codingenesis>can i convert my current installed system into a live or a kind of a snapshot ??
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07:51<jm_>codingenesis: bootcd might help
07:51<codingenesis>so i can use it for a latter purpose when i need to install a new one, i can get all of my installed software
07:51<valdyn>codingenesis: no
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07:52<valdyn>codingenesis: youre asking questions that are obviously over your head
07:52<jm_>if you only need package list then it's simpler
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07:52<valdyn>codingenesis: unfortunately its not that simple
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07:53<amphi>codingenesis: in brief, a separate partition for /home is a good idea
07:53<amphi>IMHO
07:53<codingenesis>jm_ : if i make a boot cd of current system than, afterwards when i use that boot cd for installation will i be able to install the software contain in boot cd??
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07:54<codingenesis>amphi: thanks :)
07:54<codingenesis>jm_: thanks :)
07:55<codingenesis>valdyn: :) i am new to the linux world so trying to get involved, by the way thanks for your help !!
07:55<valdyn>codingenesis: yea, welcome
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07:55<amphi>codingenesis: reinstalling packaged software is very easy, assuming you have decent internet bandwidth
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07:57<amphi>codingenesis: and you will, of course, be making frequent backups of your /home ;)
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07:57<codingenesis>amphi : At my place i have very slow internet connection so it's a prob downloading software.
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07:58<amphi>codingenesis: in that case, you might be better to buy a set of debian cds
07:58<codingenesis>i got debian cds from my college and enjoying it.. :) :)
07:59<amphi>good-oh
07:59<codingenesis>thinking of becoming a debian developer !!
08:00<will>valdyn: Thanks for your answer. Anyone else can tell me more about window managers able to move buttons (close, maximize, etc)?
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08:01<valdyn>will: hmm, whats wrong with sawfish?
08:01<valdyn>will: or are you just looking for a comprehensive list?
08:02<amphi>when you have the system set up as you like it, you can run 'dpkg --get-selections > some_file' and that will put the list of installed packages into a file called 'some_file', which you can back up
08:02<amphi>codingenesis: the above was for you
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08:02<easy2study>hellow
08:03<codingenesis>amphi: ya this is a good idea !!
08:03<will>valdyn: Nothing wrong with Sawfish, I just need more advices about different users to make my choice.
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08:03<easy2study>talking about what is it ?
08:03<valdyn>will: ok, i have no experience, my wm has no buttons at all
08:04<amphi>codingenesis: you will probably find the debian reference of use
08:04<amphi>valdyn: ah, a kindred spirit ;)
08:05<amphi>codingenesis: see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
08:05<codingenesis>amphi : Thanks, i was about to ask the question about the same !! :)
08:06<amphi>codingenesis: that should keep you busy for a little time ;)
08:06<amphi>codingenesis: it is also available as an installable package
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08:06<will>valdyn: I didn't say that. But in general I prefer more than one user's opinion. ;-)
08:07<valdyn>will: yea, thats my point, i dont even have an opinion
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08:08<valdyn>will: ( except that I dont want buttons at all that is )
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08:08<codingenesis>amphi : can you tell me some resource from where i learn about the file system structure of a linux OS
08:08<easy2study>helllooooooooooooooo
08:08<valdyn>!fhs
08:08<dpkg>Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard, or "man hier".
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08:08<valdyn>codingenesis: ^^
08:09<codingenesis>wow great !!! thanks :) :)
08:09<valdyn>codingenesis: "a linux os" is pretty vague - theres probably all kinds of different systems with different policies
08:09<will>valdyn: It's ok if it's not a bad joke. :-)
08:10<valdyn>will: no buttons: http://haskell.org/wikiupload/a/aa/Screen-triplehead-galois.jpg
08:10<valdyn>will: so no, not a joke
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08:10<amphi>codingenesis: there is also a somewhat useful 'introduction to linux' book at tldp.org
08:10<valdyn>will: but that's not my desktop
08:10<will>Right.
08:11<will>It it your keyboard?
08:11<valdyn>will: hehe, no
08:11<codingenesis>can i also get the information about the file system organization in microsoft OS??
08:12<will>^_^
08:12<nyov>lol
08:12<valdyn>codingenesis: im sure you can, but not here
08:12<codingenesis>linux really looks interesting !!
08:12<amphi>codingenesis: from Microsoft, no doubt - but you may have to pay ;)
08:12<will>and prey
08:12<codingenesis>ok i understood sorry for the wrong question !!
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08:14<valdyn>codingenesis: those proprietary oses all seperate by app, not by purpose
08:14<codingenesis>valdyn : ya you are right
08:15<codingenesis>if in future i would like to have unity interface in debian is that thing possible ??
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08:20<amphi>codingenesis: you might have to build the thing yourself; IMHO there are many better window managers than what I've heard of unity
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08:21<owner>what commands to instal vnc server and kde?
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08:22<jm_>!install kde
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08:22<dpkg>From squeeze onwards, the 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > KDE > Install". See also <KDE>.
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08:22<owner>I need it on vps
08:22<delliott>Hi, when I select System... Shut Down... Shut Down from the gnome menu, my system reboots; when I select System... Shut Down ... Restart, my system shuts down. What could be causing this problem? I am running Debian Testing, gnome-desktop-environment 1:2.30+10, and the 2.6.38-2-686 kernel.
08:22<amphi>Guest4433: I see through your incognito ;)
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08:23<amphi>delliott: what happens if you do 'shutdown -r now' ? does it reboot, or just shutdown?
08:23<seeS>-r reboots
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08:23<amphi>seeS: in his case, I meant
08:24<seeS>oops, sorry
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08:25<mazze>Maybe somebody can help me: I'm just trying to reactivate an old laptop (about 4 years, but did lie around for a year). In the BIOS, I see the internal 320GB disk. When starting the squeeze-USB-stick, I can start the installation system without problems, but the disk (should be /dev/hda, as it is PATA-based) does not appear.
08:25<mazze>Is there any possibility to do something magic (like loading a specific kernel module) to make linux (the kernel) recognise the disk?
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08:26<amphi>pata disks now also show up as sdX
08:26<amphi>assuming you're installing squeeze
08:27<mazze>okay, good to know; nevertheless, there is only /dev/sda, which is the USB-stick, and the main disk of the laptop does not seem to be recognised ...
08:27<mazze>(yes, installing squeeze)
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08:30<delliott>amphi, brb
08:30<jm_>mazze: check kernel's messages: dmesg
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08:31<mazze>jm_ I already did, this is my main source of information.
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08:31<mazze>jm_ When I'm "grepping" for sd, I only get /dev/sda, which is the USB-drive.
08:31<jm_>mazze: so does it detect your controller? is the module for it loaded?
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08:32<valdyn>mazze: even pata drives are sd*
08:32<mazze>I am not sure for that. I see some IDE Adapter with lspci.
08:32<mazze>( Intel 82801G, ICH7)
08:32<valdyn>mazze: sure, lspci just shows the hw you have
08:33<valdyn>amphi: try lspci -k
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08:33<delliott>amphi, it rebooted successfully.
08:33<valdyn>mazze: ^^
08:33<amphi>!rejoice
08:33*dpkg waves a finger in the air. "Yay."
08:34<amphi>delliott: so it's some gnomish problem then; I wot not of gnome, I'm afraid
08:34<mazze>valdyn of course it does. The point of the question was, if the modules needed for my controller are loaded.
08:34<valdyn>mazze: yea, lspci -k
08:34<mazze>I did not know, but I had a look at lspci, and the controller seems to be listed there.
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08:35<mazze>lspci -k gives me more detail, but not something that looks like it would help me ... do I have to look for something specific?
08:35<delliott>amphi, ok. Thanks anyway.
08:35<valdyn>mazze: the "Kernel driver in use:"
08:36<mazze>valdyn okay, I understand now. There no such line with the IDE-controller.
08:36<jm_>mazze: give us its PCI ID
08:36<valdyn>mazze: then that device is unsupported by your current kernel
08:37<mazze>jm_ 00:1f.1
08:37<valdyn>mazze: thats the bus location
08:37<mazze>valdyn strange, I ran woody on that thing without problems, and sarge after that
08:37<valdyn>mazze: look up the bus location in lspci -n
08:38<valdyn>mazze: ok, in some few cases you might have to load the driver manually
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08:39<mazze>valdyn thank you, then it should be 8086:27df
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08:39<valdyn>!pciid 8086:27df
08:39<jm_>judd pciid 8086:27df
08:39<judd>[8086:27df] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with kernel module 'ata_piix' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:27df
08:40<valdyn>neat
08:40<codingenesis>in my hard drive i have one of my folder's icon shown as picture instead of normal folder icon?? why is it so ??
08:41<valdyn>codingenesis: theres the metadata file that does this
08:41<codingenesis>these is the only folder that's icon have changed.
08:41<valdyn>codingenesis: i dont know how that looks exactly, maybe a .desktop file
08:41<raboof>didn't see http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ before, nice!
08:42<codingenesis>so how to change it to normal folder icon ??
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08:42<valdyn>codingenesis: can you see that file inside that directory?
08:42<mazze>valdyn I don't understand that. module ata_piix is already loaded, but it does not show up with lspci -k .
08:42<codingenesis>ya every other files and folders inside that folders are normal and working properly
08:43<mazze>valdyn oh, sorry, it has changed now:
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08:43<mazze>the module is now listed with the IDE controller in lspci -k
08:43<valdyn>mazze: ls /dev/sd*
08:43<jm_>check /proc/partitions now
08:43<mazze>What I did in the meantime is downloading the components of the installer, now at the partitioner ...
08:44<mazze>nothing.
08:44<mazze>:(
08:44<mazze>I already was at that point before, too.
08:45<mazze>(with nothing I mean only /dev/sda, and the two partitions of it, of course).
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08:46<mazze>I now unloaded ata_piix and loaded it again, and I get some nice messages in the log:
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08:47<mazze>ata3.00: failed to IDENTIFY (device reports invalid type, err_mask=0x0)
08:47<mazze>could this have to do something with master/slave relationships?
08:48<jm_>or the disk is foobar
08:48<nyov>or the ide cable is
08:48<mazze>jm_ foobar meaning defective?
08:49<jm_>mazze: yup
08:49<nyov>make sure the disk is set up as master, if it's the only on on the bus
08:49<nyov>*one
08:49<mazze>nyov I will try to make that sure, thank you.
08:49<mazze>maybe all this was the cause why I stopped using the laptop a year ago ...
08:49<jm_>mazze: also try various troubleshooting options listed by installer - noapic, ...
08:49<nyov>and not on cable select, sometimes has problems,too
08:50<nyov>laptop? uh
08:50<nyov>nvm
08:50<mazze>nyov laptop, yes. Is "nvm" "Never mind"?
08:52<nyov>yes, the same. your disk should be ok then (except it's dead)
08:52<nyov>no cable settings that I know of on a 2.5" ide disk
08:53<mazze>nyov ah, okay, I was not aware of that. I saw some extra pins not used (also no jumpers) on the disk, but never thought about it.
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08:53<mazze>And as the cdrom-drive seems to interfere with the BIOS as it won't boot and just hangs, I had to remove it, and now I was afraid of something going wrong here ...
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08:58<nyov>mazze: try what jm_ said and boot with noapic
08:58<mazze>I will
08:59<nyov>also maybe ata_piix has debug options
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09:03<mazze>Does not seem to help in any way ... :(
09:03<mazze>Maybe really the disk is gone
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09:05<nyov>mazze: try add hda=noprobe
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09:06<mazze>when now loading the module again after unloading it?
09:06<nyov>I don't think it's a module option
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09:07<mazze>so you mean as a kernel parameter on boot ... I will try
09:07<nyov>and it's ancient info, no idea if that still makes sense
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09:09<mazze>Didn't have any effect, sorry ...
09:10<will>valdyn: Do you have any experience with Xfwm?
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09:10<lancelot_of>hi all
09:10<lancelot_of>how to check for fonts full names, e.g. serif-8?
09:12<will>lancelot_of: hello, which software?
09:12<lancelot_of>will, dmenu
09:13<lancelot_of>i can use serif-8 in dzen2 but not in dmenu
09:16<lancelot_of>the command syntax should be dmenu -fn fontname such as in dzen but in dmenu i've troubles with serif-8
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09:17<mazze>thank you for all your help, and have a nice day!
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09:17<lancelot_of>will, ...?
09:18<will>Well actually I can't say anything about Dmenu whom I don't have any experience with.
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09:19<will>Have you checked the font type?
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09:24<lancelot_of>will, howto?
09:24<will>lancelot_of: I think Serif-8 come from the Freetype package.
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09:25<diego>hello, I have this problem ... I installed debian and everything works great, then I create another user and assign the same groups as my user ... no sound / video ... install oss-compat and get sound and video working but some programs like totem (that use gstreamer) give a "Cannot connect to server socket err =" only in the new user
09:25<diego>and video thumbnails do not load in nautilus in that new user either
09:26<will>The font files are at /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont
09:26<diego>but I can play them with vlc for example
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09:26<diego>anyone had similar problems with gstreamer / nautilus / gnome programs
09:29<lancelot_of>will, yes, sure, the .ttf files...but i'm asking for the font title to inert in the shell command
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09:32<diego>any help with gstreamer problems ?
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09:33<will>lancelot_of: According to the manual the format do not specify any font size...
09:34<will>I would try just the name of the font.
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09:35<lancelot_of>will, dmenu -fn freeserif does not work
09:35<will>Try "dmenu -fn serif".
09:35<lancelot_of>will, the same
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09:38<SorryGuest>hey.. I'm trying to use ebtables, but it doesn't seem to do anything
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09:38<SorryGuest>is the package broken
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09:43<SynrG>SorryGuest: be more specific. you've read the man page? you tried *what exact* command? what did you expect to happen? what happened instead?
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09:46<donatello>ciao
09:47<Gibbon>hi
09:48<SorryGuest>here I opened a question about it... http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14908/ebtales-not-working/14909#14909
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09:49<SorryGuest>sorry brb
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09:51<donatello>ciao a tutti
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09:52<lancelot_of>!dpkg language
09:52<dpkg>it has been said that language is a wonderful fucking thing that should be used properly. Every time you hurt grammar, a <knoppix> user joins. To the scientists, language is god. See <$lang>, <language per user>.
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09:53<SynrG>SorryGuest: does ebtables -L give you any output after setting the policies?
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09:53<lancelot_of>!dpkg slang
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09:53<lancelot_of>!dpkg locale
09:53<dpkg>A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale
09:54<lancelot_of>hhhmmmmmmm.... donatello, speak english here
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09:54<will>lancelot_of: try "dmenu -fn courier"
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09:54<lancelot_of>will, failed
09:55<SynrG>lancelot_of: query the bot when you're asking it stuff for your own use
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10:02<will>lancelot_of: read https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/X_logical_font_description
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10:02<lancelot_of>will, i'm going to
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10:03<lancelot_of>will, ok, but in xfontsel i can't see many of the installed fonts
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10:06<SorryGuest>SynrG: it said the policy was DROP. Also I added specific rules to block (-j DROP) afterwards.
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10:07<babilen>lancelot_of: Are you perhaps looking for "fc-list" ?
10:07<will>lancelot_of: I think it corresponds to the font list in /etc/X11/fonts/Type1/xfonts-scalable.scale
10:08<babilen>lancelot_of: Are you perhaps looking for "fc-list" ?
10:08<babilen>ups :)
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10:10<lancelot_of>babilen, dunno what fc-list is
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10:19<matth>fc-list == list available fonts (fc = fontconfig)
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10:21<babilen>lancelot_of: It is a command and, as rightfully pointed out by matth, lists all available fonts. You might want to read its manpage with "man fc-list" :)
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10:23<nooodl>i'm having trouble installing debian -- this is the place to ask, right? :)
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10:24<will>nooodl: yes.
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10:26<lancelot_of>babilen, ok, i tried : dmenu_run -fn 'DejaVu Serif' but i get dmenu: warning: cannot load font 'DejaVu Serif'
10:26<nooodl>my network is not DHCP-compatible, according to the installer, and i need to fill in my IP address. should this be the local address? something like 192.168.1.xxx?
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10:27<will>nooodl: yes.
10:28<will>choose a free ip address from you LAN in order to access to internet
10:28<ghoose312>downloading from the internet is fast, my ping to many webservers is below 100ms but loading webpages takes hours, as well as loading the config pages of the router. Any idea? Until yesterday it worked fine...
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10:30<diego>any help with audio / video problems (gstreamer related) ?
10:30<diego>gstreamer plugins seem to work only for one user
10:31<diego>I have two users (diego and mike) ... everything works for me (diego)
10:31<diego>mike is in the same groups
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10:31<diego>and cannot use gnome related audio / video programs like totem or see video thumbnails in nautilus
10:31<diego>but he can see video / audio in vlc / mplayer
10:32<diego>totem gives him a lot of warnings and errors related to gstreamer (undefined variables / constants) and then an error connecting to a socket err and initializing a jack server (never installed btw)
10:32<diego>even installing jackd didnt help
10:32<babilen>lancelot_of: ah, dmenu -- use xfontsel for that -- it does (AFAIR) not handle xft fonts yet (there might be patched though)
10:32*babilen steals diego's enter key
10:33*diego :)
10:33<lancelot_of>babilen, ok...i was starting guessing it... ;)
10:34<lancelot_of>babilen, will thanks anyway
10:34<lancelot_of>will...to you
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10:34<lancelot_of>will, ...to you
10:34<diego>babilen: any help :) ?
10:34<lancelot_of>will, ;)
10:35<will>you're welcome ;-)
10:36<nooodl>will: should the one i'm using now work? i'm on the same machine as on which i'm installing debian.
10:37<will>yes
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10:38<nooodl>ah; that's what i tried, and it didn't seem to work :(
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10:39<nooodl>it didn't really error while setting up the connection, downloading the install files just failed
10:39<will>don't forget to fill the gateway address which should be your router address
10:39<will>and the dns server/relay address
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10:39<babilen>diego: No, I'll let you know if something pops into my mind. I assume that both users are not trying to access the soundcards at the same time or?
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10:40<nooodl>wait, this is weird. according to ipconfig /all (i'm on windows), DHCP *is* enabled
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10:41<nooodl>i'm using the win32-loader installer, if that matters
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10:41<will>you DNS client is active
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10:41<will>it doesn't mean your server is active
10:41<will>from the router side
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10:43<will>in any case manual assignment should work
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10:44<scisteffan>What would be the best all-in-one colour laserjet printer (250-500 pages / month volume) compatible with linux?
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10:48<kop>scisteffan: Try linuxprinting.org. (I'd suspect almost anything with a ppd file or that does postsript would work.)
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10:59<will>scisteffan: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-ActionLaser_1100
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11:00<will>it's an old model but not very obsolete.
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11:06<babilen>scisteffan: generally: hp, epson and kyocera are worth a look. had a couple of problems with (larger) canon printers (canon imagerunner) but I am sure you are not looking for one like this. And seconded, check the linuxprinting db
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11:36<jak0bete>hi i wan to install from debian squeeze a debian image on a mobile phone
11:36<jak0bete>is this possible?
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11:41<babilen>jak0bete: That is not easy to answer and depends a lot on the mobile we are talking about there. Debian is running just fine on N900s, haven't heard of anybody that tried it on android phones (although probably at least possible in a chroot) and you don't even want to try it on an Ericsson T39
11:41<jak0bete>oky!
11:42<jak0bete>thx
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11:45<scisteffan>where can I download a brcm80211 windows driver for use with ndiswrapper?
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11:46<shanet>Hey guys, I am having a problem with my apache configuration - my .htaccess file doesn't seem to have any effect.
11:46<petemc>scisteffan: i dont think people still use ndiswrapper, have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211
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11:55<scisteffan>ah ok, was just wondering because the current linux driver does not support ad hoc mode yet
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12:03<codingenesis>can anyone tell me from where i can get the resource about compiling kernels??
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12:04<codingenesis>giving u understanding about how kernel works
12:05<retrospectacus>codingenesis: /msg dpkg compile kernel
12:06<codingenesis>retrospectacus: i am getting no such directory found
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12:07<codingenesis>what should i do and can u give me some links which gives useful information about kernels
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12:07<retrospectacus>http://kernel.org/
12:07<retrospectacus>codingenesis: type it in your IRC client: /msg dpkg compile kernel
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12:08<retrospectacus>that is to ask the robot here named dpkg about "compile kernel" which he will have some things to tell you about
12:09<codingenesis>ok i got it, but not able to understand what to do?
12:10<retrospectacus>what do you want to do?
12:10<codingenesis>ok fine i figured that out !!
12:10<codingenesis> thanks !! :)
12:10<retrospectacus>sure
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12:12<florian>lol
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12:21<miggs>hello. i updated to miro 4 from unstable because i couldn't get it to run videos. when i try to play a video all it shows is the preview picture. i upgraded because i thought it's a bug in the 3.5 version.
12:22<miggs>would it be a codec catch?
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12:31<ottoshmidt>hi
12:31<retrospectacus>miggs: never used miro but if you will get more help if you can produce an error. Can you run it from the terminal, perhaps with a "verbose" option, to get codec info etc. - put the whole thing in a pastebin, you may get more help
12:31<ottoshmidt> has anyone succeeded in installing mysql native connector on libreoffice v3.4?
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12:33<SynrG>!anyone
12:33<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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12:33<retrospectacus>ottoshmidt: probably. You should just describe/explain your problem instead of asking that
12:33<miggs>retrospectacus: how do i use verbose option?
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12:34<retrospectacus>miggs: no idea. run ''miro --help'' or ''man miro'' perhaps to get usage information
12:34<ottoshmidt>retrospectacus, have you installed libreoffice v3.4
12:34<ottoshmidt>?
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12:35<retrospectacus>ottoshmidt: I don't know, maybe.
12:35<ottoshmidt>I mean have you got it installed now
12:35<ottoshmidt>?
12:35<retrospectacus>!tell ottoshmidt about ask
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12:36<retrospectacus>ottoshmidt: not on this machine
12:37<ottoshmidt>I asked that way because if nobody has installed mysql native connector extension then error message would not make sense
12:38<ottoshmidt>loading component library failed: file:///home.../uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/lu2gkbw6.tmp_/mysql-connector-ooo-1.0.1-linux-intel.oxt/mysqlc.uno.so
12:38<ottoshmidt>this is what i get on install , but as I said don't think it has a point
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12:38<miggs>ok, i pasted the output of miro with what i thinks is a verbose option
12:38<miggs>http://pastebin.com/uGv1LUh0
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12:41<dpkg>VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported, ask me about <vmware support>. VMware is not in Debian because it is not Free software; even though you might be able to download it for no cost, the source code is not available for some parts and Debian is not allowed to distribute it, see <dfsg>. http://wiki.debian.org/VMware #vmware on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>.
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12:42<jak0bete>to configure the sturtup apps in grafical mode??
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12:44<will>I just installed Sawfish but Metacity is still executed at startup why?
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12:45<Arrowmaster>will: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager (as root)
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12:47<Arrowmaster>or you can set the env var in one of your rc files in your homedir, i just dont remember what that env var is
12:47<will>the symbolic link already point to /usr/bin/sawfish
12:48<will>it was done at the installation
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12:49<will>I rebooted the system but nothing changed
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12:49<will>I tried to remove/install sawfish from the rescure session nothing too
12:49<will>rescue*
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12:53<terion23>Hello everyone
12:53<jak0bete>hi
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12:53<terion23>i have a huge problem concering my server which i want to use as a gateway can any1 help me out?
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12:53<__Alex_>!anyone
12:53<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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12:54<terion23>Ok this is the problem when i install a dhcp server and say it to run it on eth1 is will not work.
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12:55<codingenesis>i am unable to change my theme, it has stuck to one single theme !!
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12:56<retrospectacus>terion23: I hope you don't expect a solution from that... explain "doesn't work"
12:56<terion23>I tried all kinds of dhcp servers and they all said cant bring up eth1
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12:56<retrospectacus>if your server is a gateway eth1 should be up already
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12:57<Arrowmaster>will: you can either mess with gconf and change /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager or you can echo "export WINDOW_MANAGER=sawfish" >> ~/.gnomerc
12:57<terion23>I want to make it an gateway it issnt now.
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12:57<codingenesis>retrospectcus : pls help me , i am unable to change my theme it has stuck to some default theme.
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12:57<will>codingenesis: Do you see the preview in the gnome-appearence-properties program?
12:57<Coskee>hello :D
12:57<Coskee>and goodbye
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12:57<retrospectacus>terion23: first you need to get your interfaces configured. 1. are the link lights ON for both NICs
12:58<codingenesis>will : ya there are previews
12:58<terion23>Yes they are
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12:58<terion23>Eth0 is working with an interface to the internet.
12:58<retrospectacus>terion23: and what is the output of ifconfig -a
12:58<terion23>Eth1 shows up on the switch online light
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12:58<retrospectacus>terion23: what is the content of /etc/network/interfaces
12:58<will>codingenesis: try with gconf
12:59<codingenesis>but when i select any of them only color changes evrything else remains same
12:59<terion23>ifconfig -a for eth1 :
12:59<terion23>eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:da:18:38:c1
12:59<terion23> BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
12:59<terion23> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
12:59<terion23> TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
12:59<terion23> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
12:59-!-terion23 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste]
12:59<codingenesis>pls can u guide me step by step
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12:59<Yossarian>hi guys, my question: is there any way i can check battery wear level in debian? is there any tool/software for this?
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13:00<retrospectacus>!tell terion23 about paste
13:00<terion23>lol didnt knew that
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13:00<will>codingenesis: application menu -> system tools -> configuration editor
13:00<god>hola
13:00<god>b
13:00<gnugr>terion23: try " iface eth1 inet dhcp " then " ifup -a " or reboot
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13:00<will>codingenesis: it is similar to regedit
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13:01<terion23>hold on i am busy now with the paste thing :)
13:01<codingenesis>can i run gconf as a command ??
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13:02<codingenesis>in menu it's not opening !!
13:02<will>you can do that too
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13:02<will>...
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13:03<will>the name is different
13:03<terion23>the output of ifconfig -a can be found at : http://paste.debian.net/119708/
13:03<will>run gconf-editor
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13:04<codingenesis>will : i opened gcong editor
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13:04<will>look for metacity
13:04<will>it's the window manager
13:04<codingenesis>ya got that
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13:05<will>in general you have Clearlooks
13:05<__Alex_>Wait, you use KDE with Compiz?
13:05<will>change the key to your theme
13:05<codingenesis>ya
13:05<__Alex_>Aha! that's the problem
13:06<__Alex_>I never fixed it XD
13:06<__Alex_>Sorry
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13:06<terion23>terion23: try " iface eth1 inet dhcp " then " ifup -a " or reboot <- Issnt this for a remote dhcp server to get an ip adreass from?
13:06<codingenesis>found theme
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13:06<garcia>Running Squeeze for over 100 days without issue. On Friday the machine locked up tight. Nothing really out of the oridinary in the logs (no segfaults, etc) just some SYNFLOOD warnings which were normal webtraffic for the most part. Any recent known issues? Maybe other things to look at (software tests of RAM and HDD are clear but I haven't done anything else since it's been sporadic).
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13:07<garcia>Machine locked up tight again after a hard reset on Friday again and then again this morning.
13:07<will>Arrowmaster: I didn't find the key in gnome-session.
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13:08<Yossarian>hi guys, my question: is there any way i can check battery wear level in debian? is there any tool/software for this? second problem: i get vertical tear in any video/flash/3d, i'm using ati radeon 4250 and fglrx drivers
13:08<Arrowmaster>will: i gave you the exact path to it in gconf, it should be there
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13:09<towo`>Yossarian, against tearing with fglrx, blame the fglrx developer
13:09<will>Oops
13:09<codingenesis>will : still nothing is happpening
13:09<will>I missed the begining with Desktop/..
13:09<will>lol
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13:10<codingenesis>i can't get you what are you trying to say
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13:10<will>codingenesis: it's weird o_O
13:10<will>try a reboot
13:10<codingenesis>ok
13:11<Yossarian>towo`, there's no fix?
13:11<towo`>no
13:11<towo`>as i heared, the recent driver should tearing have fixed
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13:13<will>brb
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13:14<Yossarian>is there any way i can install the latest fglrx and not brick my system?
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13:16<gnugr>!tell Yossarian -about fglrx dkms
13:16<codingenesis>will : now everything works accept the window border which is stuck to default
13:16<codingenesis>so is there any way to make that window border work properly??
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13:20<will>Arrowmaster: well it worked with gconf but I have no decoration
13:20<will>sawfish-ui still don't work
13:21<will>I will see that later for now I need to eat :-)
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13:25<retrospectacus>terion23: sorry, got distracted by real life. You need to set up eth1 in the interfaces file.
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13:29<Yossarian>gnugr, i think i've already followed that but i don't have the latest version
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13:29<miggs>if i installed a package and all it's dependencies from unstable, when there appears a new version and i dist-upgrade / upgrade will it be picked?
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13:29<gnugr>Yossarian; what kernel you use?
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13:30<Yossarian>2.6.32-5-amd64
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13:31<gnugr>i've also then same kernel and same fglrx driver
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13:31<gnugr>the*
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13:31<gnugr>and works fine
13:31<Yossarian>fglrx is 1:10-9-3
13:32<Yossarian>do you have an option to reduce tear in catalyst control center?
13:32<gnugr>i don't think theres a new one
13:34<gnugr>Yossarian: debian developers are not responsible if some companies have closed drivers, its their prob to open them
13:34<Zaba>fglrx in wheezy/sid is 11.4
13:35<Yossarian>i know that
13:35<Yossarian>still would be nice to get rid of tear :>
13:35<tal>Hi all. I've read about Debian packaging but still doesn't understand 2 things:
13:35<tal>1.How does dpkg knows which files to copy?
13:35<tal>2.I didn't understand what rules do. I did read what it do, but it doesn't make sence when I read it.
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13:42<jak0bete>hi guys, if i typed www.google.es when i installed debian, on the domain address, should thsi be wrong?????
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13:42<jak0bete>or google.com, is htis making some wrong??
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13:42<Zaba>that just means you don't really understand what the domain name it asks you for is
13:43<jak0bete>yesd
13:43<Zaba>the rule of thumb is that whenever you are in doubt about the domain name, you leave it empty instead of filling it with random crap
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13:44<jak0bete>ok then how can... i delete it..??
13:45<babilen>!hostname
13:45<dpkg>Use "hostname foo" to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it does not exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', /etc/mailname. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname
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13:45<babilen>jak0bete: And rest assured, your machine does *not* belong in the .google.es domain :)
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13:45<Zaba>that doesn't really tell anything about domain names
13:45<FenarAlan>hi
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13:47<babilen>Zaba: Just make sure you have the right values in the mentioned files. /etc/hosts and /etc/mailname in particular.
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13:50<jak0bete>thx
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13:51<miggs>is there a list of all installable free / non-free codecs in debian? both clementine and miro don't play anything and i think it's because of that..
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13:54<kop>miggs: You may be intersted in the <dmm> and <overview> factoids.
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13:54<miggs>i don't know what you mean kop
13:55<kop>miggs: In IRC type "/msg dpkg overview".
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13:55<unixabg>Greetings, is there a gui beyond a try applet for network-manager?
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13:58<Yossarian>guys, is there really nothing i can do about the screen tearing with fglrx?
13:58<babilen>unixabg: You mean an additional GUI apart from the applet?
13:59<babilen>Yossarian: Use the radeon drivers -- make sure to have firmware and libgl1-mesa-dri installed.
13:59<Fenaralan>wat is this
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14:00<Yossarian>how are they compared to the proprietary ones?
14:00<babilen>Fenaralan: Could you be more specific? What do you refer to by "this" ? You are aware that deictic expressions don't work well on the internet, aren't you?
14:00<babilen>Yossarian: Fine, I happily use them, but my 3D acceleration needs are low. They are good though. Try them.
14:01<Fenaralan>i want to know what is the propose of this chan
14:01<babilen>Fenaralan: The purpose of this channel is to provide technical support for Debian users.
14:01<towo`>it's the support channel for debian stable
14:01<Fenaralan>ohh
14:01<Fenaralan>cool
14:01<babilen>indeed :)
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14:01<Fenaralan>ty
14:02*kop wishes he knew what deictic means. Off to wiktionary.
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14:05<babilen>kop: heh :) -- http://xkcd.com/114/ </offtopic>
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14:07<ompaul>babilen: that lacks context :)
14:08<ompaul>if you have a two colour image one of which is black and the background is white and you want to turn all the black white in one go got an imagemagick or other idea
14:08<ompaul>woops
14:09<ompaul>you want to turn all the black grey
14:09*ompaul notes how that changes things
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14:11<kop>ompaul: imagemagick sounds easiest.
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14:13<ompaul>kop yeah but couldn't find a way to get the answer I wanted from their site :-)
14:14<ompaul>single colour replacement perhap
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14:15<ompaul>http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/color_basics/#opaque got it
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14:15<aptosid>hallo
14:15<aptosid>eine ganz simple Frage
14:16<ompaul>aptosid: two channels up on the left #aptosid
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14:16<Guest4468>ich probiere gerade aptosid aus
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14:16<gnugr>!de
14:16<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
14:16<ompaul>guest4468 ist #aptosid
14:17<Guest4468>und ich habe Dateien runter geladen, aber ich finde die Dateien nicht.. ich habe schon überall gesucht.. wo werden die heruntergeladenen Dateien "deponiert"?
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14:17<supaplex>The only german I know is, dos is goot, but linux is better. ;)
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14:17<ompaul>supaplex: that would be gut but anyway :)
14:18<supaplex>yeah hehe.
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14:22<supaplex>is there a mainbug number for the encrypted lvm-pv? This last install, I played with using a 10gb rootfs, the rest is on lvm (encrypted pv) for /home /var /usr/local
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14:26<Yossarian>my question: is there any way i can check battery wear level in debian? is there any tool/software for this?
14:26<lancelot_of>hi all, after pm-hibernate/wakeup i get strange domain in shell. Instead of local server name i get 'lancelot@Host-002:~$' . Dunno what Host-002 could be. What happened?Is there any threat?Please help
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14:45<lancelot_of>no suggestions for me?
14:45<jak0bete>holaa
14:47<sarkis>hey guys, anyone here get nginx 1.x on debian 6?
14:47<sarkis>im curious at how you approach a problem like this.. this is my first time running debian (im running debian6 for my webserver)
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14:48<sarkis>i was thinking of adding the src aptitude entry from testing, then doing build-deps and apt-get -s
14:48<sarkis>build it form source and then dpkg -i nginx-1.0-full.deb
14:48<babilen>,versions nginx
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14:48<judd>Package nginx on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 0.7.67-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.67-3; sid: 1.0.1-1; wheezy: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.4-1
14:48<babilen>!ssb
14:48<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
14:48<sarkis>would that be the proper way in approaching it?
14:48<babilen>sarkis: That ^^^ is the canonical approach
14:49<sarkis>ah ok thanks
14:49<babilen>sarkis: It can get tough when you need to backport a number of dependencies as well.
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14:49<babilen>But I guess that nginx is relatively easy.
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14:50<lancelot_of>hi all, after pm-hibernate/wakeup i get strange domain in shell. Instead of local server name i get 'lancelot@Host-002:~$' . Dunno what Host-002 could be. What happened?Is there any threat?Please help
14:51<FenarAlan>londom :o
14:51<babilen>sarkis: And it is typically preferred to use the actual release names in your sources.list instead of "testing", "stable" ... so you won't run into problems once a new release is made
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14:51<lancelot_of>it's better saying "i got..." 'cause i haven't rebooted
14:51<babilen>lancelot_of: we read you -- check your hostname settings (man hostname) and "/msg dpkg hostname"
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14:52<edgardo>HI HOW CAN I FIX THE WALLPAPER ON ANTIX 8.2
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14:56<sarkis>babilen: whys there 2 sids?
14:56<sarkis>,versions nginx
14:56<judd>Package nginx on i386 -- lenny: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 0.6.32-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 0.7.67-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.7.67-3; sid: 1.0.1-1; wheezy: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.4-1
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14:57<lancelot_of>ok babilen my question was why my hostname changed after hibernation
14:57<lancelot_of>is some hacking going on?
14:57<babilen>sarkis: different architectures
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14:58<babilen>sarkis: Install devscripts and run "rmadison nginx" and "rmadison nginx-full"
14:58<supaplex>lancelot_of: my guess is, dhcp assigned your address after you use login, and it's looked up again later, changing your system hostname.
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15:00<lancelot_of>supaplex, how to fix?
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15:02<supaplex>static assignment
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16:09<lancelot_of>Never happened before....hostname changes randomly without my control. What's happening?
16:10<XayOn>lancelot_of: changes to what? and what's your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname ? is there a script that may be doing that? what about trying "watch lsof /etc/hostname" or somethign?
16:10<lancelot_of>Also after static assignment and reboot, i'm afraid
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16:11<lancelot_of>XayOn, changes to Host-001/002/003...etc
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16:11<XayOn>lancelot_of: so, check out what I said, but most probably the watch command, will tell you what's changing it, luckyly
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16:11<diego>hello, how do I change the domain and search from resolv.conf (not manually, so that every boot will have the same)
16:12<lancelot_of>XayOn,
16:12<diego>its not the /etc/hostname or /etc/network/interfaces
16:12<lancelot_of>XayOn, http://paste.debian.net/119726/
16:12<diego>I cant remember
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16:13<lancelot_of>XayOn, and /etc/hostname is simply Camelot
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16:13<XayOn>lancelot_of: /etc/hosts is ok, hostname probably too, so, it must be some outside script I guess
16:13<supaplex>i'm think it's the dhcp client rewriting files
16:14<lancelot_of>supaplex, why should it do?it has never done it
16:14<XayOn>a dhcp client changing hostname? that just doesn't seem right to me
16:15<lancelot_of>XayOn, watch lsof /etc/hostname returns nothing strange
16:15<XayOn>=/ What's nothing extrange? Also, it should report what's happening... while its happening, when does it change hostname?
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16:19<lancelot_of>XayOn, the command returns: Every 2,0s: lsof /etc/hostname Mon Jun 13 22:19:04 2011 remaining on standby
16:19<supaplex>watch only updates every 2s by default. it's quite possible the file could be open, and rewritten, and closed before the next invocation of lsof.
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16:20<XayOn>Um, that's right, but it can be set to 1s, anyways I don't think that's the issue there. It's probably just that it's not changing right now.
16:20<XayOn>lancelot_of: when was the last hostname change?
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16:21<lancelot_of>XayOn, dunno...i was reading a manual and then i needed a terminal and so..come on change
16:22<XayOn>lancelot_of: erm... what?
16:22<XayOn>lancelot_of: cat /etc/hostname
16:22<lancelot_of>Camelot
16:22<XayOn>lancelot_of: It's really the hostname changing, or something in your prompt?
16:22<lancelot_of>XayOn, in the prompt
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16:23<lancelot_of>also in console
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16:24<XayOn>lancelot_of: if etc/hosts ir right and etc/hostname too, it's not your hostname changing, it's probably just a stupid thing on your prompt config.
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16:25<lancelot_of>XayOn, ok but i've not changed any prompt conf...moreover dunno if any prompt conf exists
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16:26<lancelot_of>maybe it's some uncorrect guarddog configuration?
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16:31<lancelot_of>XayOn, ?
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16:43<XayOn>lancelot_of: maybe, if you're playing with it
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16:45<will>well
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16:46<supaplex>well will, will you well up at the well, or will your will be in your last will?
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16:46<will>I'm still wondering why when I set Sawfish as the default window manager with gconf I don't have any decoration in the frame
16:47<raboof>(wow, 'supaplex', that takes me back :) )
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16:47<massive>nabend
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16:47<massive>is the common language here german ?
16:47<raboof>(never got very far - i had this roommate though who actually finished that game, multiple times 0.0 )
16:48<raboof>massive: nope :)
16:48<massive>english ??
16:48<raboof>massive: jep :)
16:48<massive>jeah
16:48<massive>thx 4 the info @ raboof
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16:48<massive>perhaps u can help me solve a prob i have
16:49<raboof>massive: i believe there's a german-speaking '#debian.de' though
16:49<massive>i try ...
16:49<massive>:) okay..
16:49<massive>i try to install xen with xorg n my laptop (amd64)
16:50<massive>i'm standing 4 the prob that xorg starts but then dies under the xen-hypervisor-kernel
16:50<massive>any common answer 4 that
16:51<daemonkeeper>massive: You might want to join #debian.de if you prefer a german channel
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16:52<massive>me not coercively prefer a german channel
16:53<daemonkeeper>What's the problem you are facing in X?
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16:55<massive>i m tryin to install xorg under the xen-hypervisor
16:55<massive>amd64
16:55<daemonkeeper>So far I read that.
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16:55<massive>tried 32bit but no change
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16:55<massive>:)
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16:56<massive>the prob i have is: when i start x unter a dom0 kernel with the hypervisor running...
16:56<daemonkeeper>So? Error message?
16:56<massive>i think it dies after loading xorg and at loading the window-manager
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16:57<massive>witch log u wanna have
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16:58<daemonkeeper>Well, read your Xorg.0.log
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16:59<massive>no errors so far in my Xorg.0.log
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17:00<massive>found an error
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17:00<massive>(EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
17:00<massive>(EE) PreInit failed for input device "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
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17:00<daemonkeeper>That's unrelated
17:00<massive>sorry 4 pastin here directly
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17:01<massive>thx 4 heplin me daemonkeeper
17:03<massive>it seems that the xorg-server starts and after that (at the time loading the window-manager) everything dies and i just see stripes
17:03<massive>i told that; i know
17:04<devil>massive: are you using xorg.conf?
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17:04<devil>massive: and do you have a link to your xor.0.log?
17:05<massive>seems like i don't use xorg.conf
17:06<massive>the only xorg.conf i have are in [/usr/share/doc....]
17:06<massive>cd var
17:06<massive>cd log
17:06<massive>sry
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17:23<retrospectacus>does anyone know a way to force the system to use a certain source IP for a single connection?
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17:25<will>/etc/hosts?
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17:25<retrospectacus>I have a machine with several IP addresses. When sending mail or initiating any outbound connection, it defaults to put the ***.62 IP on the packets. I would like to run ''telnet some-other-host 25'' and have the other host see a connection from ***.61 (one of my servers other IPs)
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17:30<massive>:will me?
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17:31<will>what?
17:31<retrospectacus>massive: I think he was talking to me...
17:31<massive>u meant me ?
17:31<massive>sry
17:31<will>It was just a bad suggestion for retrospectacus
17:32<retrospectacus>will: yes I don't think the answer lies there
17:32<retrospectacus>I believe I can do this with iptables but I just want it for one telnet command. If I make an iptables rule it will affect all my outgoing mail.
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17:34<will>iptables for changing ip address?
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17:35<supaplex>!iptables
17:35<dpkg>[iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables . http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>.
17:35<supaplex>firewall related
17:35<retrospectacus>no
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17:37<retrospectacus>it's just a server on the internet. It has 4 IPs. Outgoing connections appear to its peers to be "from" ****.62 - I would like my one single telnet command to be "from" ***.61
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17:37<supaplex>then source it from said ip. I'm sure telnet allows you to specify exactly what address to bind to.
17:38<retrospectacus>aw snap! It does too
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17:38<retrospectacus>thanks man
17:39<retrospectacus>!beer supaplex
17:39*dpkg pulls out a nicely refined Dogfishhead 90min IPA for supaplex
17:39<supaplex>np
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17:59<will>Well I have now decorations with Sawfish but the Sawfish configuration aka sawfish-ui fails to work.
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17:59<TaZeR>big debians dont cry ayayay!
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18:09<will>Can someone tell me how to change a Sawfish theme since sawfish-ui say "*** Unbound variable: gtk-preview-new"
18:10<will>and i'm locked with Crux
18:10<will>for the top and Clearlooks for the client
18:10<will>:'-(
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18:17<retrospectacus>will: ask #sawfish on irc.freenode.net - that's not really something a lot of us would know about
18:17<will>already done
18:18<will>but still wait for a solution :-)
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18:19<daemonkeeper>Perhaps because you're the last man on earth still using sawfish ;)
18:19<abrotman>i would rather use sawfish
18:20<will>but Metacity is limited for my use
18:20*abrotman seriously misses edge-flipping
18:21<will>I would like to move buttons (menu, maximize, etc) anywhere in the frame.
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18:21<will>not only on the beside the title on the right or the left
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18:24<daemonkeeper>Metacity can't do that?
18:24<daemonkeeper>Does not sound like a revolutionary feature
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18:25<will>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=613396
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18:26<will>still open :-/
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18:28<daemonkeeper>Well, no clue. I'm on kwin
18:28<daemonkeeper>(where I can do what you want)
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18:32<abrotman>what is he trying to do?
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18:34<daemonkeeper>As far as I loosely followed, he wants to shift buttons within his display manager's title bar.
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18:35<abrotman>which is?
18:35<abrotman>you mean window manager, not display manager
18:35<retrospectacus>window decorator
18:36<daemonkeeper>err, yeah
18:36<drewdavis>Metacity should be able to shift button positions in gconf.
18:36<will>I'd like to set a custom position for any object in the decoration
18:36<drewdavis>I don't have gnome installed, so I can't double check.
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18:37<retrospectacus>kind of an obscure feature to "need"
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18:37<drewdavis>I'm not aware of a window manager that can't do it, though.
18:37<will>but Metacity proposes to move buttons to predefined locations
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18:38<daemonkeeper>All I can tell, kwin allows you shift buttons around. I'd doubt metacity couldn't, being a competitive window manager as well
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18:38<drewdavis>will: depending on how granular you want this to be you may need to write a custom metacity theme.
18:39<drewdavis>If you just want to move the button and text positions around gconf should be able to do it.
18:39<drewdavis>gconf-editor, rather.
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18:40<will>I already watched gconf with the button_layout key for Metacity
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18:41<will>the default configuration is "menu:minimize,maximize,close" with ':' defining the seperation from left to right
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18:41<will>you can't set a specific location
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18:43<will>it's not very flexible for writing a custom theme
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18:45<scinl>I see that wine is in the standard Debian Wheezy repositories. Should I use this or is it recommended to use the Wine repository to get the latest Wine?
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18:46<will>for security updates maybe it's better to use the debian repository?
18:47<retrospectacus>standard stability/bleedingEdge tradeoff
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18:48<scinl>Thanks all. I'll go with Debian Wheezy's wine. I guess aged wine is more desirable anyway...
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18:49<retrospectacus>hehehe :)
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18:50<will>or not since Xine compatibility is related to the version
18:50<will>Wine*
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18:51<will>it seems #sawfish people are dead or pretends to be
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18:53<will>brb
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18:53<daemonkeeper>will: Why don't you ask on their mailing lists? I presume they have.
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18:59<cthuluh>will: see #sawfish on freenode
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19:00<will>I'm on #sawfish
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19:12<scinl>Installed wine, doing a series of winetricks configurations now - I feel so dirty
19:13<will>lol
19:13<will>wine is dirty by definition
19:13<will>:-P
19:13<quant>what win applications do you require? :)
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19:14<retrospectacus>scinl just spilled wine all over his nice clean Debian
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19:15<scinl>retrospectacus: Having WinXP dual-bootable on this IRSSI laptop was bad enough, now there's .ttf and DirectX9 on my beautiful desktop machine! :'(
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19:15<scinl>quant: Ultima Online, Continuum/Subspace, Counter-Strike: Source
19:16<quant>scinl, while I was actively playing wow, I was booting to vista to play it
19:16<scinl>quant: I would kill myself before I used Vista or WoW.
19:17<quant>scinl, well, ok...
19:17<retrospectacus>Steam runs pretty well on wine actually
19:18<quant>any particular reason for those potential suicidal thought? you can answer me on #debian-offtopic
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19:20<scinl>quant: No suicidal thoughts because I don't play WoW or have Vista installed. Wasn't trying to be a jerk, realize now how it sounded, sorry.
19:20<quant>on-topic: does anyone know the reason I see a slideshow instead of a maximize effect when clicking on an image that maximizes when you click on it in iceweasal?
19:20<quant>scinl, it's cool :)
19:21<quant>iceweasel*
19:21<will>gif?
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19:22<TaZeR>i was arrested for going into a bestbuy and start screaming WHATS WITH ALL THE FRIGGIN WINDOWS!!! and i started smashing machines
19:22<quant>no, I think it's javascript, I'm usnure
19:22<will>TaZeR: lol
19:22<quant>will, try screenshots on this page: http://www.bug.hr/forum/topic/linux/vasi-linux-ekranski-pucnjevi/95811.aspx?page=1
19:23<will>yes it's a javascript
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19:24<will>use noscript it's better with than without
19:24<abrotman>TaZeR: do you need help?
19:24<quant>I need js for some things, I'd like to fix it instead
19:24<TaZeR>mental help
19:24<abrotman>TaZeR: do you need Debian help?
19:24<TaZeR>always
19:24<TaZeR>shes my wife
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19:25-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
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19:25-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
19:25<will>quant: with noscript plugin you allow only scripts you need
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19:26<will>I mean websites.
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19:26<abrotman>TaZeR: perhaps you'd like to try #debian-offtopic for your chatter
19:26<will>I would love to read his stories
19:26<will>:-D
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19:29<daemonkeeper>will: You are free to do in #debian-offtopic
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19:32<will>but the storyteller is still missing come on TaZeR!
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19:34<abrotman>will: please don't encourage him
19:34-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
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19:38<TaZeR>ubuntu lover!
19:38<abrotman>TaZeR: last warning, keep it on-topic
19:39<TaZeR>keep what?
19:39<daemonkeeper>You
19:39<TaZeR>oh right i got ya
19:39<TaZeR>okily dokily neighboreeno!
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19:42<will>TaZeR: #debian-offtopic is waiting for you
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19:42<TaZeR>is there a party there?
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19:43<will>yes and just for you :-D
19:43<GregKaNiff>hey guys just curious if there is a text editor(gui) that will allow me to edit files via SSH.
19:44<streuner_>any editor should work
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19:44<streuner_>but just use nano, its default in debian and doesnt need a GUI
19:44<quant>vim ;-)
19:44<retrospectacus>GregKaNiff: you can "mount" an ssh location through the Places - Connect to server menu
19:44<supaplex>GregKaNiff: kate with kio plugins can
19:45<supaplex>sshfs ftw
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19:47<supaplex>!lart network-lag-and-latency
19:47*dpkg rm -rf's network-lag-and-latency
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19:58<GregKaNiff>Thank you guys I appreciate the help.
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20:30<Gates>where did my windows kernel go?
20:30<Gates>IRC exploits
20:31<Gates>anyone
20:31<Black_Prince>someone saw where I parked my car.
20:31<Gates>kill them
20:31-!-TaZeR [~taz@bas1-toronto10-1279398638.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:31<Gates>why you are using backtrack
20:31<Gates>wifi cracking ???!!!???
20:32<Gates>Black_Prince: rofl
20:32*sney has just sent Gates a message! Type /server mail to read your message. You have (1) unread message.
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20:32<sney>haha
20:32<Black_Prince>lol
20:32<sney>nobody else do it
20:33-!-Gates [~BillGates@cpe-72-184-239-174.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:33<Gates>ROFL
20:33<massive>do wat ??
20:33<sney>!otherchannel Gates #backtrack-linux irc.freenode.net
20:33<dpkg>Gates: The channel you are looking for is #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #backtrack-linux. If your client supports it, you can also right-click the following link and choose connect: irc://irc.freenode.net/#backtrack-linux
20:34<Gates>k, sney
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20:38<AlexMax>can't that be abused?
20:38<sney>many things can be abused, but as I just demonstrated, so can /me
20:38<sney>the abuse would not be tolerated for long.
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20:51<CyL>Hi, I'm having a really hard time setting up my Broadcom BCM4312 on my laptop running Debian Squeeze 64bit. I am able to list all available networks within range, but no matter what I do, I'm not able to connect to them. I followed Debian guidelines while installing the driver, and downloaded them from the repositories. I already tried NetworkManager and Wicd (now using Wicd since I found it to be more verbose).
20:51<CyL>I'm sure the problem is specific to my computer, since I am able to connect other devices to these same AP's. I have a couple of logs at http://paste.debian.net/119683/ and http://paste.debian.net/119686/ Any advice would be much appreciated!
20:52<dvs>So... you come over here with the same problem in Freenode?
20:53<abrotman>CyL: don't do that, you're getting help over there
20:54<abrotman>many of us are in both channels
20:54<CyL>dvs: asked there almost half an hour ago, no solution yet, I don't thing that count as double post
20:54<CyL>abrotman: Yes I do know, but many also are not.. will not do that gaing though
20:54<CyL>s/gaing/again
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20:59<alephnull>Mirror's keys messed up ?
21:00<alephnull>The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
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21:16<CyberCalm>Hey folks, quick question. I noticed by default my laptop has smtp port 25 open by default, and im not entirely sure why since im not using it to my knowledge, is there a reason for this? and if not how would i stop it from being open
21:17<CyL>CyberCalm: port 25 is used for mail relay, all linux boxes should have them open AFAIK
21:17<CyL>CyberCalm: you can confirm this with 'netstat -tunap'
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21:17<CyberCalm>running nmap localhost on every other machine i have doesn't give me smtp 25 =\
21:17<CyberCalm>just the debian laptop
21:18<CyL>CyberCalm: many programs deliver mail to your local users (including root and yourself) using that port
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21:18<CyberCalm>nothing is using it according to that command
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21:19<CyL>CyberCalm: Sometime you need to have mail delivered by yourself (like you syslog daemon for example)
21:19<sney>CyberCalm: do you have a mta like exim4 installed? sometimes it installs by default as a recommend, by popcon or something
21:19<CyL>CyberCalm: so it is installed by default
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21:19<CyL>CyberCalm: you should run it with root permissions
21:19<CyberCalm>sney, i dont have exim4
21:19<TCW>CyberCalm, at what IP addresses or interfaces is that port listening?
21:19<alephnull>CyberCalm: By default it should only be listening on the lo interface.
21:20<TCW>alephnull, *five* ;)
21:20<alephnull>o/*
21:20<TCW>=_0
21:21<TCW>o_O even
21:21<TCW>alephnull, in other words... what does that smiley mean? :)
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21:22<alephnull>o/*\o -- a high five
21:22<CyberCalm>ahh ok it is just listening on loopback
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21:24<TCW>CyberCalm, I have no idea why other distros dont have a.) a mta installed b.) not listening on port 25, but it is a good thing to have it there, as some apps / services rely on a at least locally working mta-like thing.
21:24<abrotman>it's not listening on 25 everywhere, just localhost
21:25<TCW>hm?
21:25<CyberCalm>A little late, but ohh well ;)
21:25<CyberCalm>Anyways, thanks folks.
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22:24<e-israel>anyelse from México?
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22:55<felipe13>Costa Rica?
22:55<abrotman>!es
22:55<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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23:25<aussa>hi
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23:29<riley>yo- what is the transfer speed of cat5e?
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23:29<riley>i know it's a stupid question- but i see different answers when i google it
23:30<riley>and debian people know what's up
23:30<CyL>riley: I guess the best answer is, it depends on the cable length
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23:34<aussa>hi, I can't reproduce audio codec wmap? I normally use vlc, but installed totem in order to play it, but it does not work either, how do I make it play?
23:34<sney>it's intended for, what, half-duplex gigabit? and over shorter lengths you may get more. hell of a lot better than wireless though.
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23:38<EmleyMoor>How, in squeeze, with gnome, can I set my default DVD player application?
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23:53<kop>!tell aussa about dmm
23:53<kop>aussa: You may also be interested in other possible solutions in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware/.
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23:55<kop>EmleyMoor: Gotta be one of those mysterious gnome-config options. I always just poke gnome with a stick until it does what I want. Sorry I can't be of more help.
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23:56<aussa>ok ty
23:56<terion23>Hello im having a huge problem with my gateway dhcp works other machines get an ip adress but dns names are not resolved and also ip adresses arent redirected like it should.
23:57<kop>terion23: The debian box is the gateway?
23:57<terion23>yes
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23:57<kop>terion23: You are firewalling/natting?
23:57<terion23>It has internet access i confirmed it.
23:58<terion23>Yes but i loaded a script for iptables that should work
23:58<kop>terion23: dhcp is handing out the right address(es) for dns server(s)?
23:59<terion23>Yes as far as i know..
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