| --- | Log | opened Sun Jun 26 00:00:14 2011 |
| 00:00 | <cybersphinx> | TCW: Extract the initramfs and grep that for hda? |
| 00:01 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 422] by debhelper |
| 00:01 | <TCW> | Intel® Server Boards S3210SH <- that is the mainboard, and according to the manual it does not have pata slots |
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| 00:02 | <TCW> | ahhh! So the BIOS was listing the USB disk that was connected at that time! sney, so I am 100% sure now, no old IDE disk in that box :) |
| 00:02 | <TCW> | cybersphinx, hmmm... woth a try... |
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| 00:05 | <shiloh25> | TCW: back, using irssi in terminal, in gnome now |
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| 00:05 | <shiloh25> | :-) |
| 00:05 | <TCW> | shiloh25, so your gnome session is now 100% complete? |
| 00:06 | <shiloh25> | yessir, it restarted by itself with gnome login :-) |
| 00:06 | <shiloh25> | i am so so so happy |
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| 00:07 | <shiloh25> | TCW: wow ty for all the help, this is, awesome |
| 00:08 | <TCW> | ./conf/conf.d/resume:RESUME=/dev/hda2 <- the only thing in the initrd... but... interesting |
| 00:09 | <shiloh25> | TCW: ? |
| 00:09 | <sney> | TCW: hmm |
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| 00:11 | <TCW> | http://paste.debian.net/121016/ <- set -x in update-initramfs |
| 00:11 | <TCW> | shiloh25, yes? |
| 00:12 | <shiloh25> | TCW: when trying to run synaptic: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 00:12 | <shiloh25> | E: _cache->open() failed, please report. |
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| 00:12 | <sney> | TCW: did you migrate that config from the machine that actually did have that disk? I think there must be something leftover |
| 00:12 | <TCW> | shiloh25, do what it says... in a terminal as root: dpkg --configure -a |
| 00:13 | <TCW> | sney, sure... it was a 1:1 migration :) |
| 00:13 | <TCW> | but lenny did not complain about "hda" anywhere... |
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| 00:14 | <sney> | lenny still had hd* disk names sometimes, iirc |
| 00:15 | <TCW> | sney, but as the disk was never in that new box... a rather theoretical issue :) |
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| 00:15 | <sney> | hmmm |
| 00:15 | <sney> | something in the raid metadata.... maybe |
| 00:16 | <sney> | that lenny's mdadm wouldn't have picked up |
| 00:16 | <sney> | legacy data or something but I'm just guessing |
| 00:16 | <TCW> | ii lilo <- hmm... I have a weird feeling... let's see |
| 00:16 | <shiloh25> | TCW: ty again, very much |
| 00:16 | <shiloh25> | :-) |
| 00:17 | <TCW> | sney, yes... maybe... at least that hda WAS once part of the raid (that's how I "migrated" the system) |
| 00:17 | <TCW> | shiloh25, you're welcome :) |
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| 00:18 | <shiloh25> | TCW: was looking to install a simple conky ;-) |
| 00:19 | <TCW> | sney, I have NO idea why... but I removed lilo and the error is gon |
| 00:19 | <shiloh25> | i like my system light, and like to see whats using what |
| 00:19 | <sney> | TCW: ha! I think update-initramfs probably checks lilo.conf |
| 00:19 | <TCW> | sney, yes it does.... that was a real weird one |
| 00:20 | <TCW> | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 100 not upgraded <- ok, now let's go on :) |
| 00:21 | <TCW> | geez... that dist-upgrade is a real funny thing I must say :) |
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| 00:21 | <TCW> | but so far, all essential stuff /cups / samba is working... the next step is apache, php and mysql |
| 00:23 | <sney> | php made a significant jump from lenny to squeeze iirc so there might be some hiccups depending on what you're hosting |
| 00:24 | <TCW> | I am in no way a php professional... but let's see... first a dist-upgrade and see what will fail :) |
| 00:25 | <TCW> | it is just an internal test webserver... not that essential... |
| 00:26 | <sney> | yeah or else you'd know that already |
| 00:27 | <sney> | I'm sure php.net has the information you need for a 5.2 to 5.3 change |
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| 00:29 | <TCW> | the main webdesigner will tell me tomorrow if something smells fishy, I guss ;) |
| 00:29 | <TCW> | guess |
| 00:31 | <sney> | and if anything is you can tell him he should have futureproofed the code |
| 00:32 | <TCW> | hehe |
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| 00:34 | <TCW> | warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 165602 package 'f-secure-automatic-update-agent': <- btw, there was once the f-secure managment server installed on that box... long time removed (with etch I think), with lenny no issue, with squeeze I now get that message for every package during upgrade / install :) not tragic, but annoying... so I have to manually edit /var/lib/dpkg/available or is there another "cleaner" way? |
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| 00:35 | <sney> | I believe you can delete/rename /var/lib/dpkg/available and it will regenerate itself on your next update. |
| 00:35 | <TCW> | Unable to migrate to dependency-based boot system <- uhhh... what a pity |
| 00:36 | <sney> | once you fix things you can dpkg-reconfigure insserv to get that, if you want it |
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| 00:36 | <TCW> | I know... but I don't see a reason why it should not work... off hand... but we'll see |
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| 00:43 | <TCW> | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 00:43 | <TCW> | so... now let's see what is broken :) |
| 00:45 | <TCW> | rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused <- bind9 broken... :) |
| 00:45 | <shiloh25> | brb |
| 00:45 | <shiloh25> | exit |
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| 00:59 | <dabir> | "There are 84 updates available" .. when i check for them it bumps the temp of my laptop up and nothing seems to happen for 20+ minutes while it's apparently "checking" |
| 00:59 | <dabir> | i |
| 00:59 | <dabir> | i've never had this many updates at one time |
| 01:00 | <sney> | 6.0.2 released so there were some extra updates |
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| 01:24 | <shiloh25> | brb |
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| 01:29 | <clement> | hi there ! |
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| 02:00 | <levi32> | Hello. I heard this was a good place to go for help? |
| 02:01 | <streuner> | if you using Debian, yes. |
| 02:01 | <levi32> | Yes I'm on Debian Squeeze |
| 02:01 | <streuner> | fine, just for a start "/msg dpkg ask" |
| 02:03 | <levi32> | What am I supposed to do after typing that? |
| 02:03 | <levi32> | It says >dpkg< ask |
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| 02:03 | <streuner> | !ask |
| 02:03 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 02:11 | <cafenet> | hey guys after i saw that ubuntu 11.04 is total shit i decided to go on debian after Gnome3 is released :D but i wanted to download a dvd which atleast have internet connection in it |
| 02:11 | <cafenet> | becuz i dl a cd1 of it and it doesnt include internet-applet |
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| 02:12 | <streuner> | /msg dpkg gnome2 |
| 02:12 | <streuner> | /msg dpkg gnome3, sorry |
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| 02:13 | <streuner> | http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html |
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| 02:24 | <cafenet> | i already chek it out dude |
| 02:24 | <cafenet> | i wanna dl a debian DVD wich have atleast network connection |
| 02:24 | <cafenet> | there are a tons of link i dono wich one |
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| 02:27 | <EmleyMoor> | Update Manager appears to be in deep thought |
| 02:27 | <streuner> | cafenet: www.debian.org and look at the upper right side |
| 02:28 | <streuner> | cafenet: multiarch iso, which installs stable and has i-net conncection |
| 02:28 | <cafenet> | dude its a net installer which iran internet is the most suckest in whole world |
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| 02:29 | <george> | how do I install Kde, is it kde-full? |
| 02:29 | <streuner> | george: /msg dpkg install kde |
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| 02:29 | <george_> | streuner, I didn't get anything |
| 02:30 | <streuner> | george_: just type "/msg dpkg install kde" in your irc-client? |
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| 02:31 | <streuner> | !+tell george -about install kde |
| 02:31 | <dpkg> | told george about install kde. |
| 02:31 | <george_> | streuner, but when I do that it tells me this: 0 upgraded, 525 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 02:31 | <george_> | Need to get 595 MB/600 MB of archives. |
| 02:31 | <george_> | After this operation, 1,354 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 02:32 | <streuner> | well |
| 02:32 | <george_> | streuner, only 1.4 GB for the install? |
| 02:32 | <george_> | oops not only, 1.4 GB isn't that a little much? |
| 02:32 | <streuner> | no idea HOW big KDE is, but modern DE's use plenty of spaces |
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| 02:33 | <george_> | streuner, alright, but do you have any idea what the difference between the core, standard, and full is? |
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| 02:36 | <streuner> | george_: apt-cache show kde-standard//kde-full/... |
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| 02:36 | <streuner> | george_: it should explain the metapackages |
| 02:36 | <george_> | streuner, alright thanks for all the help :) |
| 02:37 | <streuner> | np |
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| 02:41 | <scheggia66> | ciao |
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| 02:56 | <Rak> | \o |
| 02:56 | <Rak> | #PlanoBrasil |
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| 03:03 | <rakniwrad> | bom dia |
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| 03:24 | <tittn> | hello |
| 03:24 | <tittn> | im having a kernal panic after evry method i try to patch a new kernel using software raid config could anybody help me with that |
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| 03:25 | <EmleyMoor> | tittn: Why exactly are you patching the kernel? |
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| 03:26 | <tittn> | to have better performance for gameserver |
| 03:26 | <tittn> | s |
| 03:26 | <tittn> | i tried the ck patch |
| 03:26 | <tittn> | and the zen |
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| 03:27 | <tittn> | but some how it doesnt like to boot from md0 |
| 03:27 | <gnugr> | tittn: wich debian version are you running? |
| 03:27 | <tittn> | the latest |
| 03:27 | <gnugr> | squeeze? |
| 03:27 | <tittn> | squeeze |
| 03:27 | <tittn> | yes |
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| 03:28 | <gnugr> | if you want new kernel you must backports in sources.lis |
| 03:28 | <gnugr> | !bpo |
| 03:28 | <dpkg> | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <backports-sloppy> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
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| 03:29 | <tittn> | alright i will read that thx |
| 03:31 | <tittn> | do i need to make the patch again after installing that ? |
| 03:32 | <tittn> | if so how do i remove previous kernal patch attempts in grub an i just delete the folders in /boot and in grub.cfg |
| 03:33 | <nyov> | tittn: what patch is that? just curious |
| 03:34 | <gnugr> | just run " update-grub " |
| 03:34 | <tittn> | after deleting |
| 03:34 | <tittn> | the ck patch |
| 03:35 | <gnugr> | you might don't need that patch with neww kernel |
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| 03:39 | <tittn> | just install new vanilla kernel ? |
| 03:40 | <gnugr> | do as link says |
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| 03:40 | <gnugr> | http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 03:44 | <tittn> | confused now :p search for header ? |
| 03:45 | <gnugr> | !bdo kernel |
| 03:45 | <dpkg> | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are distributed via backports.debian.org. Ask me about <bdo> to add backports.debian.org to your sources.list correctly, then run "aptitude update". To list available backported kernel image packages: aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'. To install a package (e.g.): aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-2.6.38-bpo.2-686 See also <bdo kernel lenny>. |
| 03:45 | <EmleyMoor> | What are the pros/cons re libreoffice vs. openoffice? |
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| 03:47 | <devil> | EmleyMoor: most developers went with libreoffice |
| 03:47 | <devil> | and debian just decided to go with libreoffice also |
| 03:48 | <devil> | other than that at this very moment, the software itself is pretty identical, that might vhange in the future |
| 03:48 | <EmleyMoor> | Oh - so, basically, it's just a fork that's been more heavily followed? |
| 03:48 | <devil> | EmleyMoor: right, when the fork happened, OOo belonged to our most beloved Oracle |
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| 03:49 | <devil> | after a while Oracle realized they would have to put money into it to make it fly and decided to 'give it back to the community' damn hypocrits |
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| 03:50 | <devil> | i was hoping that noone wanted it and the blame for killing it would stick to Oracle. |
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| 03:57 | <tittn> | uhm http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16663584/Screenshot-3.png |
| 03:57 | <tittn> | am i at a point of no return ? |
| 03:57 | <devil> | tittn: is firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
| 03:58 | <tittn> | dont know can i install it and then press ok ? |
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| 03:58 | <devil> | do you have non-free activated in your sources.list? |
| 03:59 | <tittn> | ah no its locked :p |
| 03:59 | <devil> | well, add it to the line |
| 03:59 | <devil> | do you know how? |
| 03:59 | <tittn> | after main ? |
| 04:00 | <devil> | yes, add 'contrib non-free' |
| 04:00 | <tittn> | but can i still cancel that install of backport kernal |
| 04:00 | <tittn> | else i wont be able to install it |
| 04:00 | <devil> | you can install the firmware package afterwards |
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| 04:01 | <tittn> | ah ok |
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| 04:02 | <tittn> | do i need to add it to deb-src also ? |
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| 04:02 | <devil> | it does not hurt |
| 04:02 | <tittn> | without the ' presume :p |
| 04:02 | <devil> | yes |
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| 04:03 | <devil> | it needs apt-get update to make the changes known to apt |
| 04:04 | <tittn> | woot it updated the bpo one |
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| 04:09 | <tittn> | so now i should be able to patch the 2.6.38 kernel with the ck patch or does it need to be the specific bpo version ? |
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| 04:12 | <devil> | version does not matter |
| 04:14 | <tittn> | so original kernel file from kernel.org should work |
| 04:14 | <devil> | sure |
| 04:15 | <tittn> | alright thx gonna try |
| 04:15 | <tittn> | will take a while to make again :p |
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| 04:17 | <freddy> | HOLA |
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| 04:29 | <moxbox> | hello |
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| 04:30 | <moxbox> | I'm looking to install debian on a samsung freeform. (it's a cell phone) I don't care if the phone still works as a phone afterwords |
| 04:30 | <sml> | hi peeps. looks like there were quite a lot of updates via apt-get update; apt-get upgrade today. any particular reason? |
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| 04:31 | <devil> | sml: in squeeze? |
| 04:31 | <sml> | yeah |
| 04:31 | <devil> | sml: afaik therev was a minor upgrade? |
| 04:31 | <devil> | 6.0.2 |
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| 04:32 | <sml> | ah OK. that explains it. yeah it's now 6.0.2 |
| 04:32 | <moxbox> | Does anyone know the best place to direct me? |
| 04:32 | <devil> | i dont run stable, so i missws it |
| 04:32 | <sml> | was there any particular reason for the minor update? security/stability? updated packages. looked like quite a few things were marked HIGH |
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| 04:33 | <gnugr> | !releases |
| 04:33 | <dpkg> | See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. See <release history> for prior releases. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 04:33 | <gsimmons> | sml: /msg dpkg 6.0.2 |
| 04:34 | <sml> | thanks gsimmons |
| 04:34 | <moxbox> | So how would I install debian on a cell phone? |
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| 04:37 | <sml> | what does it means by "users that update from security.debian.org will have little to update". does it mean people that JUST have security.debian.org in their apt list? |
| 04:38 | <SpeedyG> | if you allready have it in your apt-list, there's probably little left to update if you update on a regular basis |
| 04:38 | <sml> | Oh OK. Well I always keep up to date via apticron. Was still 37 packages though! |
| 04:40 | <SpeedyG> | hmyeah, i've got about 28 packages as well althouh I updated a few days ago |
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| 04:40 | <sml> | SpeedyG: OK well it all seems normal so I won't worry too much :) |
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| 04:41 | <sml> | with recent attacks on the web and since I run LAMP I've been even more cagey than normal. |
| 04:41 | <sml> | especially since one of the updates looked like it wanted to do something with my gnupg keys |
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| 04:42 | <devil> | well, you need notr worry about LulzSec anymore, they called it quits :) |
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| 04:42 | <sml> | devil: more worried about all the copy cats that are now going to take their place. |
| 04:42 | <SpeedyG> | devil: yeah, but how trustworthy is that ? ;) |
| 04:42 | <SpeedyG> | and indead, what sml says :) |
| 04:43 | <SpeedyG> | euh, indeed .... my english seems a bit rusty today ... |
| 04:43 | <devil> | SpeedyG: i think they are done. but yes, copycats are more dangerous |
| 04:43 | <sml> | mind you.. one good thing about all teh recent drama is it introduced me to CloudFlare. Looks like a very cool service |
| 04:44 | <sml> | SpeedyG: from the Netherlands? |
| 04:44 | <devil> | well, dropbox seemed cool some time ago, look what became of them |
| 04:44 | <SpeedyG> | sml: yep :) born and raised |
| 04:45 | <sml> | but I don't trust my data being secured in the cloud so I secure it myself. I use dropbox but keep an AES256 partition on there. |
| 04:45 | <sml> | but that lapse the other day was rediculous. |
| 04:45 | <devil> | sml: good idea |
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| 04:45 | <sml> | SpeedyG: it's a cool place. Sometimes I go there on business |
| 04:46 | <devil> | sml: the attitude towards security with the first issue, when the .db could just be copied taught me to ni´ot trusr those guys |
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| 04:46 | <devil> | grr, cats on the desk while typing is not a good idea. |
| 04:46 | <sml> | devil: lol |
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| 04:48 | <sml> | is there a site that lists cool Debian packages to try out? I'm looking for playing with something new today since it's Sunday and I'm bored. |
| 04:48 | <SpeedyG> | sml: yeah, its quite alright here |
| 04:48 | <SpeedyG> | devil: cats on the desk is no problem, as long as they dont mess with the keyboard ;) |
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| 04:48 | <sml> | or I could just do the crossword.. :-S |
| 04:49 | <devil> | sml: apt-cache search <field of interest> would be one way |
| 04:49 | <SpeedyG> | btw, anyone know by heart if there's a shortcut key in KDE for showing the desktop (similar to the Windows+D Key in windows) ? |
| 04:50 | <sml> | devil: or I could just go read some man pages. always a nice thing to do on a rainy day. |
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| 04:50 | * | sml waves goodbye |
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| 04:50 | <devil> | man, you know how to have fun ;) |
| 04:50 | <SpeedyG> | haha |
| 04:50 | <SpeedyG> | what a life.. :> |
| 04:51 | * | SpeedyG trying to install debian on his desktop... goes dreadfully slow though |
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| 04:51 | <SpeedyG> | installing from within the deb live distro on a USB key |
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| 04:52 | <devil> | my last install of a debian derivate took 1.13 seconds :) |
| 04:52 | <devil> | well, 1 minute 13 seconds |
| 04:53 | <SpeedyG> | hm, i've been looking at a disk partitioning window for about an hour now |
| 04:53 | <themill> | SpeedyG: you can define whatever key combination you want: System settings → Keyboard and mouse → Global keyboard shortcuts → Component: kwin → Show desktop |
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| 04:53 | <SpeedyG> | themill: a nice, but do you know by heart if any of those keys are already predefined? (especially the show desktop key) |
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| 04:54 | <themill> | not sure. I seem to have Meta+D in there already but I'm not sure if I defined that or if that was the default. |
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| 04:55 | <devil> | SpeedyG: its not |
| 04:55 | <SpeedyG> | ah, I see |
| 04:55 | <SpeedyG> | thanks! |
| 04:57 | <devil> | and if you have kde 4.6.3/4, its moved from keyboard and mouse to 'keybindings' or the like (translated from german) |
| 04:57 | * | EmleyMoor has decided to install libreoffice without waiting for wheezy |
| 04:58 | <themill> | EmleyMoor: it's in squeeze-backports |
| 04:59 | <SpeedyG> | devil: dunno what version exactly, just deb squeeze with default live desktop environment :) |
| 04:59 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes, that's the route I've gone |
| 04:59 | <themill> | :) |
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| 04:59 | <devil> | SpeedyG: then probably where themill pointed to |
| 04:59 | <EmleyMoor> | Even tried loading some of my ancient StarOffice docs |
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| 04:59 | <SpeedyG> | devil: yeah, thats where i've just found it :) |
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| 05:05 | * | EmleyMoor has had a weirdness with his car MP3 player and is thinking the filesystem on the USB stick may be amiss... |
| 05:06 | <SpeedyG> | might well be.. i've reformatted my drive to simple FAT32 and it worked like a charm |
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| 05:07 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... unfinished long file name! |
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| 05:11 | <EmleyMoor> | I think the car adds a little corruption to the filesystem |
| 05:12 | <SpeedyG> | what kind of car? :) |
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| 05:12 | <EmleyMoor> | Kia cee'd |
| 05:13 | <SpeedyG> | pfew, I was in doubt between that one and the Toyota Auris, glad I took the latter one :> |
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| 05:14 | <EmleyMoor> | Not tried USB stick play in any other car yet |
| 05:14 | <SpeedyG> | got a 20GB usb disk with a small cable in the glovebox now, works like a charm :> |
| 05:15 | <EmleyMoor> | I've fixed all the errors, redone fatsort - we'll see how it goes now |
| 05:15 | <EmleyMoor> | If only a decent filesystem was supported... |
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| 05:15 | <SpeedyG> | yeah, wonder if ext/2/3 is supported in my car though |
| 05:16 | <SpeedyG> | fat32 works pretty good ... |
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| 05:16 | <jez9999> | Hi. I have my power management set for the display never to be put to sleep. However is there a way I can make an exception for this when I 'lock screen', and make it go to sleep immediately or after a minute or something? |
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| 05:51 | <alberto> | hello |
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| 05:51 | <Guest6264> | hello there |
| 05:51 | <gnugr> | hi |
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| --- | Log | closed Sun Jun 26 06:06:49 2011 |
| --- | Log | opened Sun Jun 26 06:14:48 2011 |
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| 06:19 | <tittn> | hello |
| 06:20 | <gruetzkopf> | does archive.debian.org have its own ip? |
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| 06:22 | <tittn> | does somebody know whats wrong here ? |
| 06:22 | <tittn> | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16663584/drac.png |
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| 06:24 | <AriMartti> | kernel cannot detect filesystem? |
| 06:24 | <AriMartti> | self compiled kernel? |
| 06:24 | <tittn> | yes |
| 06:25 | <AriMartti> | try again with filesystem support |
| 06:25 | <tittn> | what do i have to add in grub.cfg for that |
| 06:26 | <AriMartti> | i mean, you should have filesystem support compiled in kernel |
| 06:26 | <tittn> | ow i think i dint remove that but i could look around in the menu |
| 06:26 | <UltimediaOS> | typical Ramdisk issue |
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| 06:27 | <tittn> | there is no ramdisk entry for those self compiled kernels |
| 06:27 | <tittn> | in grub |
| 06:27 | <UltimediaOS> | yes thats the problem |
| 06:27 | <gnugr> | tittn: you didn't do as we told you about backports and bpo kernel |
| 06:27 | <tittn> | i did install the bpo one |
| 06:27 | <gnugr> | ok tho |
| 06:28 | <gnugr> | as you wish |
| 06:28 | <tittn> | wel i dunno what i did wrong then :s |
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| 06:29 | <tittn> | cant i just add a initrd entry for the compiled on in grub ? |
| 06:29 | <tittn> | or doesnt that work |
| 06:29 | <UltimediaOS> | if you have a ramdisk for that kernel |
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| 06:32 | <UltimediaOS> | most kernel panics like in this case came from "a non found filesystem" |
| 06:32 | <clock_> | Hi all |
| 06:32 | <clock_> | The update in my Debian system just stopped working |
| 06:32 | <clock_> | I click the red "91 updates available" icon and update-manager starts |
| 06:33 | <clock_> | Shows a window "downloading updates". The window doesn't redraw and updte-manager eats 100% CPU for minutes |
| 06:33 | <clock_> | Last time the update was working |
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| 06:33 | <clock_> | I tried 4 times to kill the process and start it again, the result is the same |
| 06:34 | <babilen> | clock_: Which version of Debian is this and does "aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade" work? (has to be run as root) |
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| 06:34 | <UltimediaOS> | a package hangs while updating? |
| 06:34 | <clock_> | When I try to close the window with the cross [X] I get the Force Quit? dialogue |
| 06:34 | <tittn> | yup happend to me also had to reboot and update tru console |
| 06:34 | <clock_> | babilen, how can I find out the version of my Debian? |
| 06:34 | <babilen> | clock_: cat /etc/debian_version is a start :) |
| 06:34 | <clock_> | 6.0.2 |
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| 06:35 | <UltimediaOS> | lsb_release -a |
| 06:35 | <clock_> | tittn, did reboot fix it? |
| 06:35 | <UltimediaOS> | if installed |
| 06:35 | <clock_> | No LSB modules are available. |
| 06:35 | <clock_> | Distributor ID: Debian |
| 06:35 | <clock_> | Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.2 (squeeze) |
| 06:35 | <clock_> | Release: 6.0.2 |
| 06:35 | <clock_> | Codename: squeeze |
| 06:35 | -!- | clock_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
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| 06:35 | <babilen> | clock_: Looks great -- Could you run the "aptitude update" and "aptitude safe-upgrade" as root? and paste the result to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 06:36 | <UltimediaOS> | looooooooool |
| 06:36 | <clock_> | I just ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 06:36 | <UltimediaOS> | paste.debian ha :) |
| 06:36 | <babilen> | UltimediaOS: Hm? I don't quite follow ... |
| 06:36 | <clock_> | finishes seeminlgy normal |
| 06:36 | <babilen> | clock_: May I have a look? |
| 06:36 | <clock_> | Now I get icon "system start required" |
| 06:37 | <UltimediaOS> | just wondering about that service |
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| 06:37 | <UltimediaOS> | nice one |
| 06:37 | <clock_> | babilen, you want to see the output of my apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 06:38 | <babilen> | clock_: If you ran "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" then yes, but that was not what I asked you to do. :) |
| 06:38 | <clock_> | babilen, I ran it even before you asked :D |
| 06:38 | <babilen> | Ok, paste please :) |
| 06:39 | <clock_> | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/121036/ |
| 06:39 | <babilen> | It would have been interesting to see that "aptitude safe-upgrade" or "apt-get upgrade" would have done, but too late now. |
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| 06:40 | <UltimediaOS> | thats not good |
| 06:40 | <UltimediaOS> | broken dpkg database |
| 06:40 | <babilen> | clock_: Oh, there be dragons. May I see the output of "apt-cache policy", "apt-cache policy ymessenger" and your /etc/apt/sources.list please? |
| 06:41 | <clock_> | UltimediaOS, you mean the invalid character> |
| 06:41 | <UltimediaOS> | yes |
| 06:41 | <babilen> | clock_: Indeed |
| 06:41 | <clock_> | This happens to me always and repeatedly |
| 06:41 | <clock_> | Debian spontaneously breaks the database |
| 06:41 | <UltimediaOS> | never seen that before |
| 06:41 | <clock_> | Happened on Lenny |
| 06:41 | <clock_> | Then I fixed it somehow |
| 06:41 | <clock_> | upgrade to Squeeze |
| 06:41 | <clock_> | and since upgrade to squeeze I get this broken character in ymessenger again |
| 06:41 | <UltimediaOS> | i also ran in trouble with lenny to squeeze |
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| 06:42 | <babilen> | clock_: It very much looks as if you installed Yahoo Messenger from somewhere -- Could you paste the requested output please? |
| 06:42 | <UltimediaOS> | but other issue |
| 06:42 | <clock_> | I *NEVER* edit the debian database by myself |
| 06:42 | <clock_> | already for the sheer reason I don't remember where it is |
| 06:42 | <babilen> | clock_: Sure, nobody said that you did |
| 06:42 | <clock_> | I am sure Debian must have broken it himself |
| 06:43 | <babilen> | clock_: I am quite sure that it is due to ymessenger, but let me have a look please. |
| 06:43 | <clock_> | OK preparing the outputs of the commands... |
| 06:43 | <UltimediaOS> | there are situations you have to edit it manually... or reset the whole database |
| 06:44 | <babilen> | UltimediaOS: Resetting the DB is fairly easy, but I would like to see what is going on here. |
| 06:44 | <UltimediaOS> | yes sure |
| 06:44 | <UltimediaOS> | i just say it commonly |
| 06:44 | <clock_> | babilen, here output of the three commands: http://paste.debian.net/121038/ |
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| 06:45 | * | clock_ feels happy these people care about his problem |
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| 06:46 | <clock_> | now I would reboot my system when it asks for it, should I? |
| 06:46 | <clock_> | I can also say, this ymessenger message was there since I upgraded to Squeeze, and the graphical update program always worked |
| 06:47 | <clock_> | And also yestedrday my sound suddenly stop worked and started only after boot up today morning not sure if it could have some connection with the update problem |
| 06:47 | <babilen> | clock_: Ok, I guess you have downloaded yahoo messenger from somewhere in the past? Be that as it may -- Could you run (all as root) "mv /var/lib/dpkg/available{,_bkp}" followed by "apt-cache dumpavail > /var/lib/dpkg/available && dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/dpkg/available" .... After that run "aptitude update" (or apt-get update if you are so inclined) |
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| 06:47 | <babilen> | clock_: No, do not reboot yet please |
| 06:47 | <clock_> | babilen, yes I vaguely remember downloading yahoo messenger and installing it from .dpkg |
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| 06:48 | * | clock_ is now afraid he cause dthe trouble by installing yahoo messenger |
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| 06:48 | <babilen> | clock_: I guess that this somehow corrupted the DB -- No idea why, but as it is easy to maintain third-party packages I'll just blame ymessenger now. |
| 06:48 | * | clock_ is imp[ressed how babilen writes commands using {,} |
| 06:49 | <babilen> | clock_: Ah, that is easy. :) |
| 06:49 | <UltimediaOS> | is it possible that some version policy changed since lenny to squeeze |
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| 06:49 | <babilen> | UltimediaOS: That is indeed the case |
| 06:50 | <UltimediaOS> | i noticed it during a compile |
| 06:50 | <clock_> | babilen, done, output at http://paste.debian.net/121039/ |
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| 06:51 | <clock_> | babilen, not sure but looks like the ymessenger thing disappeared, in that case thanks for solving :) |
| 06:51 | <gruetzkopf> | hey, i need to install etch via a netbooted installer on a old sparcstation 4. i cant enter a mirror manually, so i need to set up a proxy do redirect it do the debian archive. any tips or tools for doing this one-time-thing? |
| 06:52 | <babilen> | clock_: Ok, that looks fine. You can now reboot as you have installed a new kernel. |
| 06:52 | <babilen> | clock_: Yes, it disappeared. |
| 06:52 | <SorryGuest> | I accidentally installed debian without laptop tools, what do I need to do to have then installed? (apt-get laptop-tools perhaps?) |
| 06:52 | <clock_> | OK I reboot hope I come back again :D |
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| 06:53 | <gsimmons> | SorryGuest: You probably want the laptop task via tasksel ; /msg dpkg laptop task |
| 06:53 | <gruetzkopf> | have debian and windows |
| 06:54 | <SorryGuest> | gsimmons: what do you mean..? |
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| 06:56 | <clock_> | So reboot worked |
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| 06:56 | <babilen> | clock_: Welcome back -- I take it everything is fine? |
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| 06:56 | <clock_> | Well the package manager icon is not there anymore |
| 06:56 | <clock_> | But I am not sure if it is there normally when no updates are available |
| 06:57 | <SorryGuest> | oh right, sorry, I got it |
| 06:57 | <UltimediaOS> | yes it is clock |
| 06:57 | <UltimediaOS> | no updates no icon |
| 06:57 | <clock_> | So how can I test the update-manager? |
| 06:57 | <babilen> | clock_: Marvellous -- If you want you can safely remove the backup /var/lib/dpkg/available_bkp we've created. -- I am also not sure about the update manager, but I guess that the default is to only warn you when there are no updates. I never used it, so I can't help you there. You might be able to configure the bahaviour. |
| 06:57 | <clock_> | Is it OK to start it from commandline? |
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| 06:58 | <UltimediaOS> | yes it is i would say :) |
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| 06:58 | <clock_> | Now it seems to work OK |
| 06:58 | <babilen> | clock_: I don't see why not -- Could you run "aptitude -fs install" and show me the output please? |
| 06:58 | <clock_> | downloading takes split second, then says "System is update" and I can close it |
| 06:59 | <babilen> | clock_: Yeah, you've just installed all available updates. |
| 06:59 | <clock_> | babilen, I mean, the update-manager doesn't seem to freeze anymore |
| 07:00 | <babilen> | clock_: I guess it went nuts because the available DB was borked ... |
| 07:00 | <clock_> | babilen, aptitude -fs install: http://paste.debian.net/121041/ |
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| 07:02 | <babilen> | clock_: Hmm, you have some cruft there ... Do not accept that solution. I'll be back in a few minutes, but solving this is also not absolutely urgent. |
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| 07:16 | <clock_> | babilen, back? |
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| 07:16 | <babilen> | clock_: I guess the easiest way to deal with it for now is to run "aptitude keep-all" and check what else is left ... "aptitude -fs install" again :) |
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| 07:17 | <babilen> | clock_: It would also be interesting to see the output of "aptitude search ~b", "aptitude search ~o" and "aptitude search ~U" |
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| 07:20 | <clock_> | babilen, aptitude keep-all http://paste.debian.net/121045/ |
| 07:21 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 451] by debhelper |
| 07:21 | <clock_> | babilen, and aptitude -fs install doesn't show anything anymore: http://paste.debian.net/121046/ |
| 07:22 | <babilen> | clock_: Ok, that was expected. |
| 07:22 | <clock_> | babilen, now the aptitude searches: http://paste.debian.net/121047/ |
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| 07:24 | <babilen> | clock_: Ok, this is a system that was upgraded from lenny isn't it? |
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| 07:28 | <babilen> | clock_: Hmm? |
| 07:29 | -!- | Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> synthon.oftc.net quits: rzyz, zz_Kaimei, lionel, egwk, chaos, trifolio6, Otter, ck_, the-dude, cmn, (+232 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) |
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| 07:33 | -!- | Netsplit over, joins: gomaaz |
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| 07:34 | <babilen> | clock_: Back? I guess our discussion got lost in the netsplit -- This is a system that was upgraded from lenny, isn't it? |
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| 07:35 | <babilen> | clock_: You have quite a bunch of packages installed that are no longer in squeeze -- I would suggest to run "aptitude purge ~o skype+" which will remove all orphaned packages (i.e. those that are not found in any repository) but keep your manually installed skype. |
| 07:36 | <babilen> | clock_: I'll have to run now -- See you later. |
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| 07:36 | <clock_> | babilen, yes I believe netsplit too. My system was upgraded from lenny |
| 07:37 | <clock_> | babilen, should i paste the result of purge? |
| 07:37 | <babilen> | clock_: No, that is not really necessary. You might want to check the list of packages that will be purged in case you have other packages installed manually. |
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| 07:43 | <rockstar_> | I have a problem with ispell -> ispell-autobuildhash: Cannot make temporary directory under "/tmp". Aborting .. |
| 07:43 | <rockstar_> | debian sid |
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| 07:52 | <jez9999> | I have my power management set for the display never to be put to sleep. However is there a way I can make an exception for this when I 'lock screen', and make it go to sleep immediately or after a minute or something? |
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| 08:13 | <discovering_Sf2> | salve |
| 08:13 | <robinetd> | wat |
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| 08:14 | <discovering_Sf2> | got a small problem with trac and jquery on squeeze, is this channel the right place for that? |
| 08:15 | <robinetd> | Depends on the nature of the problem. |
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| 08:15 | <robinetd> | Usually someone will point you in the right direction if noone here is able to help. |
| 08:17 | <discovering_Sf2> | alright, then i'll just go on... upgraded from lenny to squeeze and now chrome/common/js/jquery.js can't be loaded, if i request it directly via url i get the message: No handler matched request to /<name_of_a_trac_env>/chrome/common/js/jquery.js |
| 08:17 | <discovering_Sf2> | but libjs-jquery is installed and the symlink seems to be correct |
| 08:18 | <discovering_Sf2> | symlink is /usr/share/pyshared/trac/htdocs/js/jquery.js -> /usr/share/javascript/jquery/jquery.min.js |
| 08:18 | <discovering_Sf2> | any idea what the problem could be? |
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| 08:20 | <discovering_Sf2> | ahh and "salve" is just a latin greeting btw, robinetd ;) |
| 08:21 | <robinetd> | I see. Unfortunately, my knowledge of latin is similar to my knowledge of your problem. Sorry :\ |
| 08:21 | <gnugr> | !lenny->squeeze |
| 08:22 | <discovering_Sf2> | :) no problem, robinetd |
| 08:22 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: ? |
| 08:22 | <ajeet> | Hello, I'm migrating to Debian Stable from aptosid where it was recommended to exit X and enter "init 3" when dist-upgrading, is this still necessary in vanilla Debian? |
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| 08:23 | <cahoot> | 'migrating'? |
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| 08:24 | <dankobum2> | update-manager takes 100% CPU power with no progress? |
| 08:24 | <gnugr> | discoverying_Sf2: did you remove volatile and backports from sources.list? |
| 08:24 | <cahoot> | does that imply something else than a clean install? |
| 08:24 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: never had them in there |
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| 08:24 | <ajeet> | cahoot: no, clean install |
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| 08:25 | <gnugr> | discovering_Sf2: can you please paste us your sources.list? |
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| 08:26 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: http://pastebin.com/mrPGdAVq |
| 08:27 | <dankobum2> | update-manager takes 100% CPU power with no progress? Does anyone have the same problem and knows how to solve it? |
| 08:28 | <gnugr> | discovering_Sf2: you need security updates too |
| 08:28 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: it's the 2nd line, no? |
| 08:28 | <devil> | dankobum2: you dont have a backlog? |
| 08:28 | <gnugr> | !security |
| 08:28 | <dpkg> | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
| 08:29 | <dankobum2> | what is backlog? |
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| 08:29 | <gnugr> | oh yes it is |
| 08:29 | <gnugr> | hm |
| 08:30 | <devil> | dankobum2: can you paste the output of "aptitude update" and "aptitude safe-upgrade" to paste.debian.net? |
| 08:30 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: trac itself runs quite well, but jquery doesn't |
| 08:30 | <discovering_Sf2> | and i don't know why |
| 08:30 | <gnugr> | not enough what you got |
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| 08:31 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: what do you mean? |
| 08:31 | <gnugr> | hold on |
| 08:31 | <discovering_Sf2> | sure |
| 08:32 | <dankobum2> | devil: I think I first have to kill my update-manager, or? and then try apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on command line, or? |
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| 08:33 | <devil> | dankobum2: as root, yes |
| 08:33 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: ah stupid me, got the url wrong :D but correcting it doesn't solve the problem, now i just get File js/jquery.js not found |
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| 08:35 | <chaiyachaiya> | hello |
| 08:35 | <jackaroo> | I am new here, give me a response, and let know that I've connected correctly, thx |
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| 08:36 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: maybe this one? http://www.rustyrazorblade.com/2011/05/trac-11-jquery-bug/ |
| 08:36 | <dankobum2> | devil: he has to download 309 MB , that will take some time, but it's running. |
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| 08:37 | <devil> | dankobum2: ok, we could have simulated that, but too late now |
| 08:37 | <gnugr> | discovering_Sf2: did you try with " apt-cache policy jquery.js " ? |
| 08:37 | <discovering_Sf2> | hmm but i don't have a /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/trac/htdocs/js/jquery.js , so it's not |
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| 08:38 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: i may just call this? |
| 08:38 | <gnugr> | yes |
| 08:38 | <gnugr> | try it |
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| 08:39 | <discovering_Sf2> | got some german output ;) but in short it means that this couldn't be found |
| 08:39 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr |
| 08:39 | <gnugr> | yes |
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| 08:39 | <gnugr> | not installed |
| 08:40 | <dabir> | i've a .mkv file inside of a .rar split in to 6 parts (but each .rar shows same overall size of the file) .. how do i extract and join them? |
| 08:40 | <discovering_Sf2> | but libjs-jquery is |
| 08:40 | <discovering_Sf2> | there is no package named jquery.js, right? |
| 08:40 | <gnugr> | nothing else as depedencies? |
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| 08:41 | <discovering_Sf2> | gnugr: what do you mean? i remember two other packages being installed with libjs-jquery |
| 08:41 | <gnugr> | thats why you may need more packages in sources.list |
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| 08:42 | <discovering_Sf2> | javascript-common and wwwconfig-common |
| 08:42 | <discovering_Sf2> | even more? which one is missing? |
| 08:43 | <gnugr> | from java you got them all? |
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| 08:44 | <discovering_Sf2> | how is java involved? |
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| 08:46 | <devil> | dankobum2: you can paste the output of what it wants to do, no need to wait for the stuff to download |
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| 08:48 | <dabir> | i've a .mkv file inside of a .rar split in to 6 parts (but each .rar shows same overall size of the file) .. how do i extract and join them? |
| 08:48 | <jaimesilva> | hello there. I have a problem, my wifi is dead since I upgraded sid yesterday, it says AP scanning is not supported, architecture amd64, any clues? |
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| 08:48 | <dabir> | each .rar shows the whole file.. tried unrar e "file.part1.rar" but it said "Failed" |
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| 08:50 | <gnugr> | discoverin_Sf2: as i can see jquery.js is for ubuntu, not for debian |
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| 08:51 | <a> | salve a tutti |
| 08:51 | <jackaroo> | Hi,all! When I connected directly to my fiber modem and using pppoe through my laptop, my eth0 connection fails; but when I connect to my router(router to fiber modem) and dial from router, my eth0 connection is OK. Who can help? |
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| 08:51 | <Guest6299> | a risalve pardon |
| 08:51 | <Yossarian> | hi peeps, i'd be interested in wep cracking, is there any good software for debian? |
| 08:52 | <TCW> | !it |
| 08:52 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 08:52 | <devil> | Yossarian: there is a better channel for that, for sure |
| 08:52 | <Guest6299> | si scusate |
| 08:52 | <Yossarian> | devil, recommendations? :D |
| 08:52 | <devil> | nope |
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| 08:54 | <bluewater> | Yossarian: that comment is near on interpol reportable |
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| 08:54 | <Yossarian> | oh... @_@ |
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| 08:56 | <keko> | hello |
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| 08:56 | <keko> | hay |
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| 08:58 | <devil> | dankobum2: i will be gone for 20 minutes. justleave the paste here, i will check when i return |
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| 09:08 | <dankobum2> | devil: here it is: http://paste.debian.net/121059/ |
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| 09:08 | <MDVAurelien> | Bonjour ;) |
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| 09:09 | <MDVAurelien> | there are french here ? |
| 09:09 | <ompaul> | !fr |
| 09:09 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 09:09 | <MDVAurelien> | salut ompaul |
| 09:09 | <MDVAurelien> | j'ai une petite question |
| 09:10 | <ompaul> | non - dans #debian-fr |
| 09:10 | <MDVAurelien> | OK thks |
| 09:10 | <ompaul> | oui ;-) |
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| 09:32 | <devil> | dankobum2: did the upgrade run through ok? |
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| 09:45 | <dankobum2> | devil: it is still ongoing, but no problem so far |
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| 09:54 | <dankobum2> | devil: it was successfull |
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| 10:00 | <devil> | dankobum2: any change for the update tool? |
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| 10:01 | <devil> | ok, seen your success post on #debian.de |
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| 10:08 | <slc> | hi |
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| 10:13 | <slc> | somebody speaks russian? |
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| 10:13 | <gnugr> | !ru |
| 10:13 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please talk (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian or use English here. |
| 10:14 | <slc> | oO )) |
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| 10:14 | <slc> | thanks |
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| 10:21 | <jeyshie> | good night |
| 10:21 | <jeyshie> | hello |
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| 10:25 | <vmassuchetto> | both nouveau and nvidia drivers will cause my Xorg to consume about 50-80% of cpu |
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| 10:26 | <vmassuchetto> | desktop works nice after log in, but after some usage it gets like this |
| 10:27 | <slc> | somebody uses a laptop hp620? |
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| 10:28 | <gnugr> | vmassuchetto: check here, it will help you " http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers " |
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| 10:29 | <vmassuchetto> | gnugr, thanks, but ive been in this page before |
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| 10:31 | <gnugr> | what is the prob exctly? |
| 10:31 | <gnugr> | exactly* |
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| 10:32 | <gnugr> | cpu? |
| 10:32 | <abrotman> | vmassuchetto: which version of Debian ? |
| 10:32 | <vmassuchetto> | testing |
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| 10:35 | <vmassuchetto> | gnugr, Xorg consumes a lot of cpu |
| 10:35 | <vmassuchetto> | gnugr, the desktop environment gets slow even to change windows |
| 10:36 | <vmassuchetto> | gnugr, this only happens after some usage, when i just log in its ok |
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| 10:37 | <gnugr> | it has to do with your card, i wondering what |
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| 10:39 | <slc> | laptop hp620&debian 6.0 x86-64 |
| 10:39 | <slc> | problems: |
| 10:39 | <slc> | 1) The problem with the sound is not played through speaker, but played through the headphones output |
| 10:39 | <slc> | 2) does not work winmodem LSI |
| 10:39 | <slc> | 3) can not connect to WiFi to a hidden ssid |
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| 10:39 | <vmassuchetto> | gnugr, is there a debian nvidia support list or something where i can get some help? |
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| 10:41 | <gnugr> | yes #nvidia on irc.freenode.net |
| 10:41 | <towo`> | #nvidia is not for distro specific support |
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| 10:42 | <gnugr> | it might " dmesg | tail -50 " will show whats wrong |
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| 11:33 | <K0JIbKA> | Hi all! |
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| 11:42 | <K0JIbKA> | my hard disk is formatted to use single partition /dev/sda3 for Debian / use. How to replace it by adding /home as a separate partition? Is it possible to perform without loosing current /home directory? |
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| 11:44 | <slc> | K0JIbKA, perepishi kuda nibud infu i zanovo peredeli |
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| 11:44 | <abrotman> | english please |
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| 11:44 | <Black_Prince> | KOJIbKA, create partition you'd like to use as /home, move current /home to eg /home2, create empty /home and mount partition that you like to use as home and then move everything from /home2 to /home and add new /home to /etc/fstab |
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| 11:44 | <K0JIbKA> | slc: too slow |
| 11:45 | <Black_Prince> | this one should be done as root and via console |
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| 11:46 | <K0JIbKA> | Black_Prince: what if current /home exceeds free place left? though your example is the best |
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| 11:47 | <K0JIbKA> | Black_Prince: and links? are they safe? |
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| 11:47 | <Black_Prince> | You'll just rename /home to /home2 ... |
| 11:47 | <Black_Prince> | Does renaming folders take any extra space? ... |
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| 11:48 | <TaZeR> | hey guys is it possible to group windows together in debian? like on the window selector |
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| 11:49 | <TaZeR> | the way xubuntu and win7 does it |
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| 11:49 | <TaZeR> | im on a 10 inch screen |
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| 11:57 | <abrotman> | TaZeR: in what? gnome? |
| 11:57 | <slc> | xfce |
| 11:57 | <slc> | xubuntu |
| 11:57 | <slc> | )) |
| 11:57 | <TaZeR> | in gnome debian |
| 11:57 | <TaZeR> | i want to have that feature |
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| 11:58 | <abrotman> | TaZeR: did you google to see if it was a setting ? |
| 11:58 | <TaZeR> | yea there doesnt seem to be one |
| 11:58 | <TaZeR> | its gotta be added somehow |
| 11:58 | <TaZeR> | however they did it for xubuntu 11 |
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| 11:59 | <TaZeR> | gotta be a simular way in debian |
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| 11:59 | <abrotman> | unless they coded a change that hasn't gone upstream yet |
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| 12:01 | <TaZeR> | damn now im going to cry :( |
| 12:01 | <abrotman> | if you could find out what is responsible .. we might be able to help you |
| 12:02 | <TaZeR> | i will search day and night i will not rest |
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| 12:02 | <TaZeR> | if you dont hear from me in 48 hours call 911 |
| 12:02 | <abrotman> | TaZeR: also, which version of Debian ? |
| 12:03 | <TaZeR> | 6.0.1 |
| 12:03 | <devil> | TaZeR: a screenshot might help to ifdentify what you mean |
| 12:03 | <TaZeR> | screenshot of what? |
| 12:03 | <abrotman> | the grouping in action |
| 12:03 | <devil> | TaZeR: of the function in action |
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| 12:04 | <TaZeR> | youve never sen it in windows? |
| 12:04 | <devil> | i dont have windows |
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| 12:04 | <TaZeR> | i can explain it saw you have 3 serperate browser windows open |
| 12:04 | <TaZeR> | instead of them being side by side and taking 3 slots of your window bar |
| 12:04 | <TaZeR> | they group into one and when you select it and box menu opens up and you can select which one to open |
| 12:04 | <devil> | TaZeR: oh, i see, dolphin e.g. can do that |
| 12:05 | <TaZeR> | i dont mean a file manager i mean on your gnome panel where the window select is |
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| 12:08 | <TaZeR> | http://www.orzeszek.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/windows-7-taskbar-grouped-word.png |
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| 12:08 | <TaZeR> | its like that where word is open 3 times but in one window and you can open it up and select which one to go to |
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| 12:08 | <TaZeR> | but in xubuntu it just comes up as a menu without the thumbs |
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| 12:09 | <TaZeR> | so if u had nauilous open in 5 windows it would comeup as one and then u can select between them |
| 12:09 | <TaZeR> | using up little space on my limited taslbar |
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| 12:10 | <devil> | hm, kde does that on its pane |
| 12:10 | <devil> | panel even |
| 12:10 | <TaZeR> | i cant go on kde though |
| 12:11 | <TaZeR> | i have a nice setup for everything on gnome now playing back 720p video smooth on a netbook!! |
| 12:11 | <devil> | as i dont know gnome, i cant help there |
| 12:11 | <TaZeR> | debian is a wonder OS |
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| 12:11 | <TaZeR> | ubuntu stands no chance to do it |
| 12:12 | <TaZeR> | windows neither even with their fancy coreavc |
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| 12:12 | <TaZeR> | mplayer with ffpeg multi threaded owns |
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| 12:13 | <TaZeR> | 1.66ghz atom single core lol |
| 12:13 | <TaZeR> | os[Linux 2.6.32-5-686 i686] distro[Debian 6.0.1] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.66GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 79.9% free] disk[Total: 120.1GB, 85.9% free] video[Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel] |
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| 12:15 | <abrotman> | TaZeR: http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/windowlist.html.en |
| 12:15 | <TaZeR> | ok thx ill check it out |
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| 12:16 | <abrotman> | judd: versions gnome-applets |
| 12:16 | <judd> | Package gnome-applets on i386 -- lenny: 2.22.3-3; sid: 2.30.0-3; squeeze: 2.30.0-3; wheezy: 2.30.0-3; experimental: 2.91.4~20110321-1 |
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| 12:18 | <TaZeR> | thanks abrotman your my hero cant believe i overlooked that haha |
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| 12:19 | <abrotman> | you're |
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| 12:19 | <abrotman> | though i don't seem to be able to configure mine .. but whatever |
| 12:19 | <abrotman> | i don't like grouping anyway |
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| 12:19 | <TaZeR> | i have a small screen with 1 panel i gotta cram everything together and 2 workspaces |
| 12:19 | <abrotman> | slc: you can talk in here |
| 12:20 | <abrotman> | TaZeR: have you tried lxde ? |
| 12:20 | <slc> | i dont speak english ) |
| 12:20 | <TaZeR> | yea that doesnt solve space situation |
| 12:20 | <abrotman> | slc: so? |
| 12:20 | <TaZeR> | gnome works fast |
| 12:20 | <abrotman> | slc: you can still ask in here |
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| 12:21 | <slc> | laptop hp620&debian 6.0 x86-64 = problems:1) The problem with the sound is not played through speaker, but played through the headphones output only , 2) does not work winmodem LSI, 3) can not connect to WiFi to a hidden ssid |
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| 12:22 | <slc> | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 12:22 | <devil> | slc: does it play through speakers if you mute the headphone? |
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| 12:23 | <TaZeR> | /esysuptime |
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| 12:23 | <slc> | deavid, No, do not play ever on skeaker |
| 12:24 | <slc> | plays sound only headphones jack |
| 12:24 | <abrotman> | slc: what is uname -r ? |
| 12:25 | <slc> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 12:25 | <abrotman> | slc: is there another OS on the machine to verify those speakers work |
| 12:25 | <slc> | in windows - is play |
| 12:26 | <abrotman> | !ru |
| 12:26 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please talk (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian or use English here. |
| 12:26 | <abrotman> | slc: some sound cards have a bug where that happens .. i wish i could remmeber the flag |
| 12:26 | <abrotman> | slc: also, check in alsamixer to make sure all the levels are unmuted and raised to 100 |
| 12:27 | <slc> | alsamixer - all max |
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| 12:27 | <slc> | Intel G45 DEVCTG |
| 12:27 | <abrotman> | and unmuted? |
| 12:28 | <slc> | yes |
| 12:28 | <slc> | http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2dcecaf6992423e222623c2b3a12d50ef81e03ba |
| 12:28 | <slc> | look this |
| 12:28 | <slc> | (: |
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| 12:29 | <abrotman> | that means nothing to me, though it might to #alsa on freenode |
| 12:29 | <slc> | hm |
| 12:30 | <devil> | slc: yeah, takeit to #alsa, its their script |
| 12:30 | <slc> | ok ) thanks |
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| 12:30 | <devil> | you need some patience, slow channel mostly |
| 12:30 | <slc> | ?? |
| 12:31 | <devil> | slc: they sometimes take time to answer |
| 12:31 | <abrotman> | slc: the #alsa is a low-traffic channel |
| 12:31 | <slc> | hm |
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| 12:32 | <slc> | sorry, what is "freenode" ? |
| 12:32 | <Zaba> | an irc network |
| 12:32 | <slc> | ok |
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| 12:32 | <abrotman> | slc: irc.freenode.net |
| 12:33 | <slc> | abrotman, thanks )) |
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| 12:39 | <dingdong> | anyone here |
| 12:40 | <dingdong> | i am getting few errors on the startup... |
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| 12:40 | <dingdong> | i guess this must have been longed somewhere when the linux is booting up |
| 12:40 | <dingdong> | is there anyway to read ? |
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| 12:40 | <devil> | dingdong: depends on how early on boot it is |
| 12:40 | <dingdong> | the first stage of the booting... |
| 12:40 | <devil> | dingdong: first, you can enable bootlogd |
| 12:41 | <jhutchins> | dingdong: You can turn on bootlog, but it doesn't log everything. |
| 12:41 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 487] by debhelper |
| 12:41 | <jhutchins> | dingdong: dmesg contains a lot of it. |
| 12:41 | <jhutchins> | dingdong: You can try the "Pause" key to see if you can freeze the message during boot. |
| 12:41 | <devil> | dingdong: if it does not get logged, you might want to make a photo and load it somewhere |
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| 12:42 | <dingdong> | something that reports also says bios setting and something like that |
| 12:42 | <devil> | dingdong: we would need the exact wording |
| 12:42 | <dingdong> | yes.. |
| 12:42 | <devil> | exact and complete |
| 12:42 | <dingdong> | how to enable the bootlog? |
| 12:43 | <devil> | but if it involves the word bios, chances, it gets logged, are small |
| 12:43 | <devil> | dingdong: /etc/bootlog |
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| 12:44 | <devil> | sorry |
| 12:44 | <devil> | /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 12:44 | <dingdong> | i am looking at the logviewer |
| 12:44 | <shiloh25> | TCW: o/ hello |
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| 12:44 | <dingdong> | and there is a section boot.. but nothing there |
| 12:45 | <dingdong> | BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No |
| 12:45 | <dingdong> | so i need to make that yes |
| 12:45 | <devil> | set it to yes |
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| 12:45 | <dingdong> | nano /etc/ stuff? |
| 12:45 | <dingdong> | or is there any othe way (devil way?) |
| 12:45 | <dingdong> | :) |
| 12:45 | <devil> | whatever editor suits you |
| 12:46 | <devil> | mcedit /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 12:46 | <slc> | abrotman, #alsa is realy slowly |
| 12:46 | <abrotman> | i bet it is .. be patient |
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| 12:47 | <dingdong> | devil brb.. let me boot again and see if that comes up |
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| 12:49 | <cmyr> | I have some weird questions about controlling fan speed, which maybe don't belong in a gen help channel. Any relevant #'s on this server? |
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| 12:49 | <devil> | cmyr: if its debian stable, this is the place (for a start) |
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| 12:49 | <cmyr> | yea, just installed with latest .iso |
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| 12:50 | <cmyr> | I'm trying to manually control the pwm signal to one of my mb fans |
| 12:50 | <cmyr> | but can't figure out how to write to /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/pwm* |
| 12:51 | <cmyr> | and make it stick. |
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| 12:54 | <devil> | you are in /proc, right? |
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| 12:55 | <cmyr> | I don't think so. |
| 12:55 | <dingdong> | devil : http://pastebin.com/0p0tY4rB |
| 12:56 | <dingdong> | there something says suspecting bios |
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| 12:57 | <cmyr> | I'll try /proc and see. |
| 12:57 | <dingdong> | also the laptop goes freeze and i have to boot again.. power down.. |
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| 12:58 | <devil> | dingdong: thos are acpi errors |
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| 12:58 | <dingdong> | am in trouble or can be cured? |
| 12:59 | <cmyr> | where in /proc are the hwmon devices? |
| 13:00 | <devil> | cmyr: i wasasking because i cant find them here |
| 13:00 | <cmyr> | yea, I don't see them. they're just in /sys/class etc |
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| 13:00 | <cmyr> | although I don't really know what I'm doing all that clearly |
| 13:01 | <devil> | cmyr: /sys/class/hwmon/ is empty here |
| 13:01 | <devil> | dingdong: we will have to find out |
| 13:01 | <cmyr> | strange. |
| 13:01 | <cmyr> | you've run lm-sensors? |
| 13:01 | <devil> | dingdong: not sure if that is related to your freezes |
| 13:01 | <devil> | cmyr: yeah |
| 13:02 | <dingdong> | i guess that might be then... |
| 13:02 | <devil> | dingdong: what laptop is that? |
| 13:02 | <dingdong> | never had this issue eariler.. |
| 13:02 | <dingdong> | this is HP Pavilion dv6 |
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| 13:03 | <cmyr> | devil: thanks, I'll keep playing around and see if I can figure something out. I definitely have those files, here. |
| 13:03 | <devil> | dingdong: there is a bugreport #571251 |
| 13:04 | <devil> | dingdong: i have to be off for an hour or so, look at that bugreport, maybe someone else can take over from here |
| 13:04 | <dingdong> | ok... will be around here.. |
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| 13:07 | <dingdong> | thats exactly what happends,,, same issue here.. the bug track explains it all.. |
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| 13:33 | <white32> | sera |
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| 13:42 | <devil> | dingdong: are you gonna test 2.6.38 to see if that fixes it? |
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| 13:50 | <shiloh25> | TCW: hello again, sorry my isp is being its normal terrible self today |
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| 13:57 | <Mazorka> | Hi everyone. |
| 13:57 | <Mazorka> | I have a Question, I think you could help me anwser |
| 13:57 | <dvs> | !ask |
| 13:57 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:58 | <Mazorka> | I have no problem with the console; Im running the latest version of Debian. All I want to have is to have more vivid colours in console. can someone help me? |
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| 13:59 | <Mazorka> | So actualy: Is there an apt get which makes the verbode mode bolder |
| 13:59 | <Mazorka> | or nicer with more colours? |
| 13:59 | <akerl> | Mazorka: vivid colors for what? |
| 13:59 | <Mazorka> | Console |
| 13:59 | <Mazorka> | Konsol* |
| 13:59 | <akerl> | ... |
| 13:59 | <Mazorka> | For example. when I do an LS |
| 13:59 | <Mazorka> | a clearer blue for filenames |
| 13:59 | <Mazorka> | as in Ubuntu console |
| 13:59 | <akerl> | ls has a --color option |
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| 14:00 | <daemonkeeper> | Mazorka: You can tweak the color scheme in your profile |
| 14:00 | <akerl> | In ubuntu, ls aliases to ls --color |
| 14:00 | <Mazorka> | ok, no skinset? |
| 14:00 | <Mazorka> | (skinset-> as in complete install) |
| 14:00 | <devil> | Mazorka: look in ~/.bashrc for a line with enable coloursd |
| 14:00 | <Mazorka> | Ok. |
| 14:00 | <Mazorka> | lets take a look |
| 14:00 | <devil> | Mazorka: google has gazillions of threads on that |
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| 14:00 | <Mazorka> | Also, when in root. I have no colours. |
| 14:00 | <akerl> | You can tweak which colors are for what, but the presence or absence of colors is dependent on the tool you're using (like ls, cp, and so on) |
| 14:01 | <Mazorka> | devil, I dont like to use google, beeing dependand by that to much just isnt right |
| 14:01 | <akerl> | So do the same, for root's .bashrc |
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| 14:01 | <Mazorka> | ok thanks lets take a look |
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| 14:01 | <akerl> | Mazorka: If you shout out in IRC without googleing, you're just asking the community to use google for you, which is meh |
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| 14:02 | <Mazorka> | I apriciate it anyway. But still, google becomes more an enemy then a friend over the years. |
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| 14:02 | <Mazorka> | People are just too google dependand these years |
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| 14:02 | <Mazorka> | The hive mind is always better. |
| 14:02 | <Mazorka> | some dont use that search engine |
| 14:03 | <shiloh25> | can anyone point me to a "how to" installing Nvidia? need 3d for CAD |
| 14:03 | <devil> | shiloh25: what debian version? |
| 14:03 | <shiloh25> | devil: squeeze stable |
| 14:03 | <shiloh25> | i386 |
| 14:03 | <Mazorka> | Works thanks |
| 14:03 | <devil> | shiloh25: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 14:04 | <shiloh25> | devil: tyvm |
| 14:04 | <devil> | np |
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| 14:04 | <dingdong> | devil : it seems the problem which i am having is exactly the same |
| 14:05 | <dingdong> | the machine also gets frozen due to this issue.. |
| 14:05 | <devil> | dingdong: so, try a more recent kernel |
| 14:05 | <dingdong> | hmm... thats the issue.. i am afraid to do it.. and not sure how to do it also |
| 14:05 | <devil> | dingdong: it seems 2.6.32 has a prob with hp pavillon |
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| 14:06 | <dingdong> | will it break my system if i am ready to do it? |
| 14:06 | <devil> | dingdong: no need to be afraid, its just a normal install, except its from experimental |
| 14:06 | <XeonBloomfield> | Welcome |
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| 14:06 | <XeonBloomfield> | When will be available Debian 6.0.2 CD images? |
| 14:06 | <dingdong> | through synaptic or shall i go through the terminal or apt-get? |
| 14:06 | <slc> | apt-cache search nvidia-kernel- |
| 14:06 | <devil> | dingdong: 2.6.38 will not break your system, i am running 2.6.39 for weeks now |
| 14:06 | <shiloh25> | brb |
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| 14:07 | <dingdong> | ok..give me a hint how to do that? |
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| 14:07 | <sney> | I hope shiloh25 isn't trying to do module-assistant |
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| 14:07 | <devil> | sney: works no more? |
| 14:08 | <sney> | devil: overcomplicated and doesn't follow kernel upgrades |
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| 14:08 | <devil> | sney: yeah, i was so used to it when i still had nvidia |
| 14:08 | <sney> | dkms is a huge improvement for stuff like that but the wiki barely spends 3 sentences covering it |
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| 14:08 | <sney> | easy to miss |
| 14:09 | <devil> | dingdong: first you need a line with experimental in your sources.list |
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| 14:09 | <sney> | devil: experimental? huh? what are you doing |
| 14:10 | <dingdong> | already in software sources ! |
| 14:10 | <dingdong> | whats next/ |
| 14:10 | <devil> | sney: dingdong needs 2.6.38 |
| 14:10 | <sney> | it's in backports. |
| 14:10 | <devil> | ups |
| 14:10 | <devil> | thats easier |
| 14:10 | <sney> | much |
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| 14:11 | <devil> | i should run at least one box with debian proper :) |
| 14:11 | <dingdong> | what shall i add? and where? |
| 14:11 | <devil> | dingdong: i guess you have backports in your sources? |
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| 14:11 | <dingdong> | hmmm. not sure... |
| 14:11 | <sney> | !squeeze backports |
| 14:11 | <dpkg> | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <backports-sloppy> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 14:11 | <dingdong> | how can i make sure that? |
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| 14:12 | <devil> | dingdong: check /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:12 | <devil> | and read what the bot posted |
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| 14:15 | <CyberDomovoy> | hi |
| 14:15 | <sney> | hi |
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| 14:15 | <slc> | hi |
| 14:15 | <CyberDomovoy> | i need a good http proxy, in a country like germany (near danmark anyway), can anybody help? (ssl would be nice) |
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| 14:15 | <akerl> | CyberDomovoy: For what purpose? |
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| 14:16 | <dingdong> | devil added the line and done the apt-get update |
| 14:16 | <CyberDomovoy> | akerl, it looks like some website are not allowed from here |
| 14:16 | <akerl> | Have you considered tor? |
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| 14:16 | <CyberDomovoy> | akerl, yes, and it is sloooow |
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| 14:17 | <akerl> | If you are proxying all your traffic through a proxy in another far off country (Say USA, for instance), it will be similarly slow |
| 14:17 | <dingdong> | devil: i have done that part.. (apt-get update) ,, does this mean kernel package also updated? |
| 14:17 | <CyberDomovoy> | akerl> that's why i ask for germany, or anything near danmark |
| 14:17 | <devil> | dingdong: apt-get update just updates the lists |
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| 14:18 | <CyberDomovoy> | akerl> and i just need to proxy the traffic for those websites |
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| 14:18 | <devil> | dingdong: so, if you added a backports line, apt gets to know this through apt-get update |
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| 14:19 | <devil> | dingdong: so, now you want to do: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install "package" |
| 14:19 | <devil> | dingdong: where "package" needs to be substituted by the real package name |
| 14:20 | <dingdong> | my case the kernel ? |
| 14:20 | <devil> | dingdong: apt-cache search 2.6.38 should tell you the correct name |
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| 14:21 | <dingdong> | devil : it shows the doc, headers, kbuild, support,patch |
| 14:22 | <devil> | dingdong: or check http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/kernel/ for the right one |
| 14:22 | <gnugr> | uname -a to see kerenl |
| 14:22 | <gnugr> | kernel * even |
| 14:22 | <devil> | dingdong: you run amd64? |
| 14:22 | <dingdong> | yes it is |
| 14:23 | <devil> | dingdong: then you want linux-image-2.6.38-bpo.2-amd64 |
| 14:23 | <devil> | plus maybe the corresponding headers |
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| 14:24 | <dingdong> | ok.. i will do both "linux-image-2.6.38-bpo.2-amd64" |
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| 14:25 | <Mazorka> | Console¡ |
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| 14:26 | <Mazorka> | Yo moktok |
| 14:26 | <M0kt0k> | sup Mazorka |
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| 14:26 | <M0kt0k> | Test |
| 14:26 | <M0kt0k> | lol |
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| 14:26 | <Mazorka> | you tested FBI |
| 14:26 | <Mazorka> | ? |
| 14:27 | <dingdong> | devil : it says i need firware files |
| 14:27 | <M0kt0k> | yes now |
| 14:27 | <M0kt0k> | fbi* |
| 14:27 | <dingdong> | r8169: rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw, rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw |
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| 14:27 | <devil> | dingdong: thsts just a hint, just go on for now |
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| 14:27 | <dingdong> | ok |
| 14:27 | <dingdong> | :0 |
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| 14:28 | <abrotman> | !ot |
| 14:28 | <dpkg> | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 14:28 | <dingdong> | i will do the headers now... |
| 14:28 | <dingdong> | image is finished... |
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| 14:29 | <dingdong> | whats in the headers? |
| 14:30 | <dingdong> | devil : when i done the headers its give me an error |
| 14:30 | <dingdong> | which is fglrx (10-9)..failed |
| 14:30 | <sney> | headers are support source files used to build extra drivers, among other things |
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| 14:31 | <shiloh25> | so is it best to use the software center in debian or synaptic? |
| 14:31 | <devil> | shiloh25: there is also plain apt-get and aptitude |
| 14:32 | <shiloh25> | devil, true, sorry im kinda new to debian, like less than 24 hrs, lol |
| 14:32 | <sney> | shiloh25: if the nvidia section on the wiki was confusing there's also this howto: http://drubo.net/nvidia-dkms-howto.txt |
| 14:33 | <shiloh25> | sney: tyvm, |
| 14:33 | <vrkalak> | there is no 'software center' with debian like there is in 'buntu |
| 14:33 | <devil> | vrkalak: there is :( |
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| 14:33 | <vrkalak> | devil: :O |
| 14:33 | <shiloh25> | vrkalak, we its in the administration options, and there is a software center |
| 14:33 | <chealer> | shiloh25: both have advantages. synaptic is more advanced and flexible |
| 14:33 | <devil> | shiloh25: yeah, its an ubuntu tool |
| 14:34 | <vrkalak> | I've been using Debian for years ... how did I not know this? |
| 14:34 | <devil> | vrkalak: it happened recently |
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| 14:35 | <sney> | debian is all about making options available to its users, so why not include another deb/apt management tool? |
| 14:36 | <shiloh25> | im hoping the learning curve wont be to bad for me, im used to lazy mans linux, been using mint |
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| 14:36 | <devil> | sney: nothing speaks against it basicaly. its just my buntuphobia. |
| 14:36 | <sney> | yeah I hear you |
| 14:36 | <sney> | I'm not gonna use it either |
| 14:37 | <sney> | though I imagine it'll ease the transition for our post-Unity converts... |
| 14:37 | <devil> | another U-word ;) |
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| 14:38 | <shiloh25> | ahh i have to add sources to the list |
| 14:38 | <shiloh25> | :-) |
| 14:39 | <devil> | for nvidia driver? |
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| 14:39 | <sney> | shiloh25: following the howto? when you finish feel free to suggest improvements |
| 14:40 | <shiloh25> | devil, sney, tyvm again :-) |
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| 14:41 | <Mazorka> | ls |
| 14:41 | <Mazorka> | rm* |
| 14:41 | <Mazorka> | oops |
| 14:41 | <Mazorka> | lol |
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| 14:42 | <newb> | I'm using debian testing, I need install libogremain-1.6.4, In what repository can I find this file and his dependencies? |
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| 14:42 | <babilen> | Mazorka: You almost deleted everyone in this channel :) |
| 14:42 | <sney> | judd: versions libogremain |
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| 14:42 | <judd> | Sorry, no package named 'libogremain' was found in i386. |
| 14:42 | <babilen> | newb: I have never heard of that -- Why do you think you need it? |
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| 14:43 | <Mazorka> | is there a way to run a program via the GPU? |
| 14:43 | <sney> | Mazorka: CUDA and related, but that's offtopic for here. |
| 14:44 | <newb> | babilen: This library is used for Ogre 3D to create 3D games, I want play some games who need this library (and some others from Ogre) and try create my 3D game. |
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| 14:45 | <newb> | babilen: Debian lenny has this file, but when trying into testing I'm unable to find it.... |
| 14:45 | <babilen> | newb: Yeah, I've just found it -- It is in sid for armel and in squeeze for the rest. I guess you can get the package from squeeze |
| 14:45 | <newb> | babilen: ty! let me try |
| 14:45 | <devil> | newb: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libogremain-1.6.4 |
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| 14:46 | <devil> | ups, just one arch |
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| 14:46 | <babilen> | newb: You might want to back/forwardport ogre from sid or squeeze -- /msg dpkg ssb |
| 14:46 | <babilen> | devil: yeah, I haven't found what prevents it from entering the other architectures. |
| 14:47 | <babilen> | newb: I also think that you will run into the same problem. So lets find this out :) |
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| 14:47 | <newb> | devil, babilen: I found them at squeeze! Thanks! |
| 14:47 | <devil> | newb: should work for testing ™ |
| 14:47 | <newb> | devil, babilen: But why I can't find them at testing? |
| 14:48 | <devil> | newb: we are also wondering |
| 14:48 | <newb> | devil, babilen: In reality, testing told me they are virtual packages... |
| 14:48 | <devil> | testing told you? |
| 14:48 | <babilen> | ,versions libogremain-1.7.1 |
| 14:48 | <judd> | Package libogremain-1.7.1 on i386 -- sid: 1.7.1-4 |
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| 14:49 | <babilen> | libogremain-1.7.1 | 1.7.1-4 | sid | amd64, armel, hurd-i386, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc |
| 14:49 | <babilen> | There you go -- newb, would 1.7.1 do as well? |
| 14:49 | <devil> | ah |
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| 14:49 | <newb> | babilen, devil: funguloids: Depends: libogremain-1.6.4 who its a birtual package. Depends: ogre-plugins-cgprogrammanager who its a birtual package. |
| 14:50 | <babilen> | newb: What depends on that? |
| 14:50 | <newb> | *virtual (I've translated here xD) |
| 14:50 | <babilen> | newb: ogre? |
| 14:50 | <babilen> | ,versions ogre |
| 14:50 | <judd> | Sorry, no package named 'ogre' was found in i386. |
| 14:50 | <babilen> | Ok, source only -- Not sure why ogre 1.7.1 is not yet in unstable ... :) |
| 14:50 | <devil> | newb: does it depennd on libogremain-1.6.4 or on >=libogremain-1.6.4 |
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| 14:51 | <babilen> | Btw -- This topic screams #debian-next (the channel for wheezy/sid support) |
| 14:51 | <devil> | :) |
| 14:51 | <newb> | devil, babilen: fungloids its a game I've downloaded who needs ogre libraries, that happens into testing only, from squeeze it's installed. |
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| 14:51 | <devil> | newb: lets change channel please |
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| 14:51 | <devil> | to #debian-next |
| 14:51 | <newb> | ah ok! |
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| 14:55 | <mayday> | 0 day alert |
| 14:57 | <akerl> | ? |
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| 15:04 | <shiloh25> | how do i edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:04 | <abrotman> | with a text editor |
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| 15:04 | <mr2k> | shiloh25: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:05 | <abrotman> | bash: sudo: command not found |
| 15:05 | <mr2k> | su -c 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list' ? |
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| 15:06 | <abrotman> | bash: nano: command not found |
| 15:06 | <shiloh25> | nope, hmmmm |
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| 15:07 | <mr2k> | gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:07 | <abrotman> | shiloh25: are you on Debian? as root, 'editor /etc/apt/sources.list' |
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| 15:13 | <shiloh25> | wow, i got allot of reading to do |
| 15:13 | <shiloh25> | lol |
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| 15:16 | <shiloh25> | abrotman, yes i am on fresh squeeze install |
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| 15:21 | <eshat> | what permission should /tmp have ? |
| 15:21 | <petemc> | 1777 |
| 15:21 | <eshat> | petemc: thanks |
| 15:21 | <petemc> | np |
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| 15:22 | <shiloh25> | abrotman, there isnt a "save" option in that, any suggestions? |
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| 15:23 | <abrotman> | in what? nano? vi? |
| 15:24 | <abrotman> | WriteOut is save |
| 15:24 | <shiloh25> | i have no idea how to do the writeout, says ^w whatever that means? |
| 15:24 | <sney> | ^ is ctrl |
| 15:24 | <shiloh25> | ahhh, ty |
| 15:25 | <sney> | also, |
| 15:25 | <sney> | !grounding |
| 15:25 | <dpkg> | Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. Ask me about <ig>, <overview>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial> (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference). |
| 15:25 | <ml|> | shiloh25: /msg dpkg reference |
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| 15:39 | <shiloh25> | i might be to much of a newb to get this |
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| 15:39 | <sney> | shiloh25: just relax and ask questions when you get confused |
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| 15:41 | <devil> | shiloh25: take your time, the first miles are steep, the view from the top more than rewarding :) |
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| 15:42 | <babilen> | (you see all the other mountains you can climb from there) |
| 15:43 | <vrkalak> | agreed |
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| 15:44 | <shiloh25> | # m-a auto-install nvidia-kernel${VERSION}-source, on that line where {VERSION} is it isnt clear what to enter, debian kernal number,? |
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| 15:44 | <devil> | shiloh25: you do not want to use m-a |
| 15:44 | <babilen> | shiloh25: Do you want to install the nvidia drivers? |
| 15:44 | <babilen> | !nvidia dkms |
| 15:44 | <dpkg> | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx>. |
| 15:44 | <devil> | shiloh25: look at the chapter on dkms |
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| 15:45 | <devil> | shiloh25: sorry, the wiki is a bit outdated atm, dkms is to be used nowadays |
| 15:45 | <shiloh25> | babilen, yes and this is extremely confusing, http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Stock_or_custom_kernel.3F |
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| 15:45 | <sney> | !nvidia dkms howto |
| 15:45 | <dpkg> | A manual for installing the proprietary <nvidia> drivers can be found at http://drubo.net/nvidia-dkms-howto.txt |
| 15:45 | <sney> | ^ |
| 15:45 | <babilen> | shiloh25: Disregard the wiki |
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| 15:46 | <shiloh25> | aptitude install nvidia-kernel${VERSION}-dkms same question on that page, the {VERSION} what do i put there, debian kernal number? |
| 15:46 | <shiloh25> | and do i leave the { } in there? |
| 15:46 | <chealer> | shiloh25: did you see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Choose_a_driver_version ? |
| 15:47 | <sney> | shiloh25: the wiki and the howto I wrote both cover that. all I can suggest is if something seems confusing, go back and make sure you read the *whole thing* |
| 15:47 | <sney> | shiloh25: but, if you have a geforce 6 or newer, you can just ignore that bit and install nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 15:47 | <babilen> | shiloh25: Please disregard the wiki -- It is more confusing than helpful. Just run the commands given by dpkg above or read sney's howto |
| 15:48 | <shiloh25> | yes i have 6000 newer |
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| 15:52 | <shiloh25> | sney, i understand all of it, accept what to do with the {VERSION} part of the command |
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| 15:53 | <sney> | shiloh25: see the part further back with the declare -x lines? |
| 15:53 | <shiloh25> | sney, yes |
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| 15:54 | <shiloh25> | declare -x VERSION=-195.36.31, do that then? |
| 15:54 | <sney> | say you had a geforce 3. at that point you would have done 'declare -x VERSION=-legacy-96xx'. then later, when you do aptitude install nvidia-kernel${VERSION}-dkms, the system would understand it as nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms |
| 15:55 | <sney> | shiloh25: nope! it's just a shortcut for people with older cards. since you didn't declare anything, |
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| 15:56 | <sney> | if you type aptitude install nvidia-kernel${VERSION}-dkms, it will install nvidia-kernel-dkms, since you don't need the legacy driver. |
| 15:56 | <shiloh25> | oh boy |
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| 15:56 | <sney> | when you put something like $VERSION or ${VERSION} into a command, all it does is recall something you told the computer to remember earlier. |
| 15:57 | <shiloh25> | oks i fubared it up |
| 15:57 | <shiloh25> | lol |
| 15:58 | <sney> | so nothing probably happened, just aptitude install nvidia-kernel-dkms and you should be fine |
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| 15:59 | <sney> | and you just helped me decide what part of the howto to improve. thanks! |
| 15:59 | <shiloh25> | sney: ty thought i messed it bad |
| 15:59 | <babilen> | shiloh25: Please install the nvidia driver with *dkms* /not/ m-a |
| 15:59 | <shiloh25> | babilen, yes i used sney's last command line |
| 16:00 | <shiloh25> | dkms :-) |
| 16:01 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 495] by debhelper |
| 16:01 | <babilen> | shiloh25: Please run: "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf" |
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| 16:03 | <shiloh25> | babilen, ty done |
| 16:04 | <sney> | shiloh25: you just copied and pasted it? ok, you should be ready for the reboot now |
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| 16:05 | <shiloh25> | yes i copied and pasted, i can use irssi to get back here if i messed somthing, lol |
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| 16:05 | <shiloh25> | tyvm for the assistance :-) |
| 16:05 | <shiloh25> | brb |
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| 16:09 | <shiloh25> | back :-) |
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| 16:10 | <sney> | shiloh25: did you get the nvidia splash when X started? |
| 16:11 | <shiloh25> | sney, no |
| 16:11 | <devil> | shiloh25: glxinfo | grep -i render |
| 16:11 | <babilen> | sney: Isn't the flash commonly disabled nowadays? |
| 16:12 | <devil> | i think it is |
| 16:12 | <sney> | babilen: in theory but I still see it for a split second |
| 16:12 | <shiloh25> | bash: -i: command not found |
| 16:12 | <shiloh25> | Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... |
| 16:12 | <shiloh25> | Try `grep --help' for more information |
| 16:12 | <devil> | shiloh25: copy&paste: glxinfo | grep -i render |
| 16:13 | <devil> | you probably missed the | (pipe) |
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| 16:13 | <shiloh25> | direct rendering: Yes |
| 16:13 | <shiloh25> | OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GS/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! |
| 16:13 | <shiloh25> | GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, |
| 16:13 | <shiloh25> | looks like its installed :-) |
| 16:13 | <devil> | shiloh25: YAY |
| 16:13 | <sney> | !congratulate shiloh25 |
| 16:13 | <dpkg> | Woohoo shiloh25, you did it! |
| 16:13 | <babilen> | \o/ |
| 16:14 | <shiloh25> | lol |
| 16:14 | <shiloh25> | tyvm everyone |
| 16:14 | <shiloh25> | :-) |
| 16:14 | <babilen> | !champagne shiloh25, devil, sney and babilen |
| 16:14 | * | dpkg puts on a sexy miniskirt and showers shiloh25, devil, sney and babilen in the finest Sainsbury's champagne. |
| 16:14 | <subuser> | i downloaded some update's last night, including a kernel from a mirror, does it automatically install itself without needing to be rebooted? or at reboot? |
| 16:14 | <devil> | uuuh |
| 16:14 | <shiloh25> | rofl |
| 16:14 | <sney> | robot miniskirts?! what will they come up with next |
| 16:14 | <babilen> | subuser: You need to reboot after kernel upgrades. |
| 16:14 | <sney> | subuser: it installs itself but it won't be running the new kernel until you reboot |
| 16:14 | <devil> | subuser: kernel needs reboot |
| 16:15 | <subuser> | ok, i did, that's what i figured :) |
| 16:15 | <babilen> | sney said it best :) |
| 16:15 | <devil> | subuser: uname -r will show if its used |
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| 16:17 | <subuser> | for the first time today, i notice in my kern.log file that 127.0.0.1 is trying to connected to 127.0.0.1 on lo, on port 631 - it gives the message UDF-fs: no VRS found, and UDF-fs: no partition found - which part of the upgrade would that be? |
| 16:17 | <devil> | subuser: 631 is cups |
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| 16:18 | <subuser> | hmm, i did disable that, i wonder why it would be trying to contact the printing server |
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| 16:20 | <shiloh25> | omg this is so fast compaired to before |
| 16:20 | <shiloh25> | wow |
| 16:20 | <shiloh25> | im in awe |
| 16:20 | <devil> | shiloh25: you didnt give up, so thats your reward |
| 16:21 | <devil> | the good thing is, with every step, you learn |
| 16:21 | <shiloh25> | devil, was no way going to give up, just read more and more,,,,,,, |
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| 16:21 | <shiloh25> | devil, oh so agree to that |
| 16:21 | <devil> | and it adds to a more less full picture |
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| 16:22 | <mr2k> | shiloh25: May I ask how your gpu's temperature is? :) |
| 16:22 | <devil> | in 3 months you will be a happy camper |
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| 16:22 | <shiloh25> | mr2k, im not sure how to check that yet |
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| 16:22 | <shiloh25> | devil, im already a happy camper, this is the routet ive wanted to take |
| 16:22 | <shiloh25> | nice, solid, stable |
| 16:22 | <shiloh25> | and no pulse audio |
| 16:22 | <shiloh25> | lol |
| 16:22 | <devil> | heh |
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| 16:23 | <mr2k> | shiloh25: Too bad, I have ATI myself and have no clue about nvidia :/ |
| 16:23 | <subuser> | i noticed debian now include's some fan control software for it's graphic's card driver's now, like nvidia, it no longer spins at full speed and requires a nvidia driver to be installed |
| 16:23 | <devil> | i got it nice, solid, unstable and no pulse audio |
| 16:23 | <shiloh25> | mr2k, my processor is at a whoppin 11% |
| 16:24 | <shiloh25> | RAM 142MiB |
| 16:24 | <shiloh25> | wow |
| 16:24 | <mr2k> | shiloh25: I read that running "nvidia-smi -lso" would produce the temperatures. Could you try it? :) |
| 16:24 | <shiloh25> | not even 25% system use from before |
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| 16:25 | <sney> | I think the lmsensors package can read gpu temp |
| 16:25 | <shiloh25> | mr2k, negative, |
| 16:25 | <sney> | er lm-sensors |
| 16:25 | <mr2k> | sney: Not sure, after installing the ATI proprietary drivers lm_sensors won't detect the gpu. aticonfig however, does. |
| 16:26 | <shiloh25> | used to see it in the nvidia control center, but i dont see it, dont really need it tbh |
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| 16:26 | <mr2k> | Just my curiousity as I've become obsessed with temperature after installing Debian and fondling the proprietary/open-source drivers :p |
| 16:27 | <shiloh25> | im personally looking forward to novoue having 3d |
| 16:27 | <shiloh25> | for CAD is all i need basically |
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| 16:28 | <shiloh25> | mr2k, well its using about nothing compaired to before |
| 16:28 | <mr2k> | shiloh25: I can imagine. |
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| 16:29 | <shiloh25> | mr2k, this is amazingly wow |
| 16:29 | <shiloh25> | :-) |
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| 16:30 | <mr2k> | shiloh25: Haha, I know. It's like heaven. Before I installed the ATI-drivers my temperatures where above 70* C |
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| 16:31 | <shiloh25> | just with irc open, and a file browser, im at 6.75%, lol on my cpu |
| 16:31 | <shiloh25> | unreal |
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| 16:46 | <subuser> | i notice my fsb is probably 1600 mhz, and /proc cpuinfo show's two 1600 mhz cores, while the cpu is a 2.93 ghz processor - is this a power consumption throttle, running them at lower speeds until higher speeds are neccessary to not slow down? |
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| 16:50 | <konnroe> | bb |
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| 16:51 | <ml|> | subuser: it would seem that way, run something that would use 100% cpu |
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| 16:54 | <subuser> | ah, cool - i found this one google page where somebody else is wondering about it - i ran glxgears and watched as one processor reached 2.93 ghz |
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| 16:55 | <subuser> | this one file /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor was set to ondemand |
| 16:55 | <subuser> | so it is saving power |
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| 16:56 | <shiloh25> | oh wow, sweet, a root terminal as auto sudoer |
| 16:56 | <shiloh25> | :-D |
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| 16:57 | <shiloh25> | i am right at home with this, im used to gnome, and can learn more terminal things that are actually important XD |
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| 16:59 | <mr2k> | <3 bash |
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| 16:59 | <mr2k> | Are you running gnome, shiloh25? |
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| 17:01 | <shiloh25> | mrk2, yessir gnome |
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| 17:02 | <mr2k> | shiloh25: Lovely, can't wait till Gnome 3 hits testing :D |
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| 17:08 | <subuser> | oops, i had a problem last night where a telnet prompt would freeze on a server when i hit ctrl+z, to background it, the i/o would stop completely - so i tried the ctrl+] to get to a telnet prompt, and the connection still existed in ps and netstat - but i coulnd't get it back into interactive mode, mode line to go back in wouldn't reset it |
| 17:08 | <subuser> | any of you know why that might be? a ubuntu user said they weren't having the same problem |
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| 17:10 | <subuser> | i didn't know i couldn't background a telnet session like that until later, but anyways, it froze the connection totally and i couldn't get it to restart without reconnecting |
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| 17:25 | <Planet8> | Where is git-fsck? |
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| 17:26 | <Planet8> | It's supposed to be a part of the git package. |
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| 17:27 | <ansgar> | Planet8: Try "git fsck" |
| 17:29 | <Planet8> | ansgar, has Debian changed that? |
| 17:30 | <ansgar> | Planet8: No, I don't think so. git-foo is deprecated upstream as far as I know. |
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| 17:31 | <ansgar> | Planet8: See /usr/share/doc/git/NEWS.Debian.gz |
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| 17:34 | <Planet8> | ansgar, thanks! But I don't understand on what basis it says that it has been deprecated since 2006. Looking at the current and new git reference http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/ it still uses the git-xyyx format |
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| 17:36 | <Planet8> | ansgar, Looking at the release notes from 1.5.4 explains it. Thanks. |
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| 18:01 | <Rakniwrad> | ola |
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| 18:17 | <alekz> | adelkz0_faint@hotmail.com |
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| 18:54 | <serlli> | aaaaaaaaaaaaa¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ |
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| 20:08 | <bgw> | hello |
| 20:08 | -!- | bgw is now known as slappy |
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| 20:14 | <quint> | anyone know of a good torrent daemon that isn't slow like transmission-daemon ? |
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| 20:16 | <TaZeR> | qbitorrent |
| 20:16 | <dvs> | quint: I use kget |
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| 20:16 | <TaZeR> | its the best |
| 20:17 | <TaZeR> | i a big pirate trust me |
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| 20:19 | <quint> | thanks :) |
| 20:19 | <quint> | looks great |
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| 20:20 | <quint> | well, tazer take care of that peg leg ;) |
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| 20:20 | <quint> | peace ! |
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| 20:21 | <TaZeR> | i will thanks lol |
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| 20:37 | <quant> | hi, can anyone recomment a weather applet/program/something for my debian squeeze lxde? |
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| 20:45 | <abrotman> | i don't know if lxde has one |
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| 20:45 | <abrotman> | i think it has to be for lxde |
| 20:45 | <quant> | there isn't one... so I need an alternative |
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| 20:46 | <quant> | I just want to have weather info somewhere on the desktop... conky perhaps? is that memory heavy? |
| 20:46 | <abrotman> | gdesklets have them .. but i'm not sure if you want to incur that penalty |
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| 20:47 | <abrotman> | gkrellm? |
| 20:47 | <quant> | will that pull some gnome/gtk libraries into the memory that wouldn't be used without gdesklets? |
| 20:47 | <abrotman> | quant: oh heck yes |
| 20:47 | <abrotman> | quant: apt-cache search weather .. look through them |
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| 20:49 | <quant> | ok, I want to keep it light... gkrellm looks ok, and I'll search for weather stuff in aptitude now |
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