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#debian IRC Logs for 2011-09-19

---Logopened Mon Sep 19 00:00:12 2011
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00:04<shiloh>is there a how to page on how to install non-free nvidia drivers?
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00:09<sney>shiloh: http://drubo.net/nvidia-dkms-howto.txt
00:11<shiloh>ty sney
00:11<shiloh>:-)
00:12<shiloh>brand new puter
00:12<shiloh>fresh debian 64 bit install
00:12<shiloh>XD
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00:17<jardiamj>Hello
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00:20<jardiamj>Hello! I'm trying to get my CPU temperature in my Thinkpad T420.
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00:29<aussa>my laptop is not detecting a usb 3.0 hard drive, how do I check the controller is working?
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00:35<user001>jardiamj: gkrellm2
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00:39<shiloh>well that was a fail
00:39<shiloh>:-/
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00:41<jmfurlott>Hello all, I'm on XFCE4.8 on my laptop. I'm trying to make it so that when I close my laptop, the computer remains active but the monitor is just turned off. The screen stays on when I close the lid right now
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00:47<shiloh>how to i stop xorg in cntl+alt+f1?
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00:50<jardiamj>Shiloh what session manager are you using? gdm?
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00:53<shiloh>gdm3
00:53<shiloh>gnome
00:53<shiloh>gsm stop doesnt do it
00:53<shiloh>gdm*
00:54<jardiamj>/etc/init.d/gdm stop
00:54<jardiamj>in my case I have gdm3
00:54<shiloh>cool ill try it
00:54<shiloh>i have gdm3 as well
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00:54<shiloh>testing, 64 bit
00:54<jardiamj>ok then /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop
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00:55<shiloh>cool, ty
00:55<Tatrasiel>question does anyone know how to use wget to get youtube videos?
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00:55<Tatrasiel>so far, it seems grab htmls...
00:56<jardiamj>I'm want to get my cpu temperature in my conky but sensors doesn't give the cpu temperature
00:56<jardiamj>I have a thinkpad T420
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01:03<bones_was_here>jardiamj: idk anything about particular thinkpads but if you have a modern intel cpu, you can use its internal sensor(s) by loading the coretemp module
01:04<bones_was_here>modprobe coretemp
01:05<bones_was_here>if it works, add coretemp on a line by itself to /etc/modules
01:06<Bushmills>or acpi -t
01:06<Bushmills>or maybe mbmon
01:06<jardiamj>I already tried acpi -t but it gives me just one temperature
01:07<jardiamj>Thermal 0: ok, 46.0 degrees C
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01:08<shiloh>ty jardiamj, that did work but still unable to install the nvidia non-free, error with "nauvaue kernel in use" so more readibng to do
01:09<bones_was_here>to prevent nouveau driver loading, add "blacklist nouveau" on a line by itself to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
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01:09<bones_was_here>the driver module will still be in kernel, you may need to reboot before you can actually install the nvidia driver
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01:11<jardiamj>Bones_was here: modprobe coretemp worked, after adding coretemp to /etc/modules should I restart?
01:12<bones_was_here>no, you have already loaded it, thats just so it loads automatically next time you boot up
01:13<jardiamj>Ok, I got it... I'm new to linux, so pardon me..
01:13<bones_was_here>no worries
01:14<jardiamj>I have a quad core, now sensors just shows me two temperatures: Core 0 and Core 1
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01:14<bones_was_here>O.o
01:15<bones_was_here>sensors shows me 4 and 8 cores on the machines i have that many on
01:15<jardiamj>It shows me just 2
01:17<bones_was_here>what cpu does linux think you have? cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model\ name
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01:17<jardiamj>cpuinfo shows my 4 cpu
01:18<jardiamj>that command gives this: bash: /proc/cpuinfo: Permission denied
01:19<jardiamj>running it as root
01:19<jm_>jardiamj: put the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' on some pastebin site
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01:19<jardiamj>Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz
01:20<jm_>that's a dual core CPU with HT
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01:20<jm_>so it all works as it should
01:21<jardiamj>but output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' shows 4 processors
01:21<bones_was_here>HT cpus are not real cpus so they dont have temp sensors
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01:21<bones_was_here>you have only two real cpus
01:21<cybershark>looking for zeus
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01:23<jardiamj>ok, I don't really understand what you mean by real cpus but if that's all right
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01:23<bones_was_here>jardiamj:
01:23<bones_was_here>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthreading
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01:24<jardiamj>Thanks, I'll ready it..
01:26<jardiamj>Thanks bones_was-here, that's good to know
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01:27<shiloh>ty worked perfect
01:27<shiloh>new machine is set up now :-)
01:27<shiloh>deb 64 bit, \o/
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01:27<bones_was_here>yay
01:28<bones_was_here>jardiamj: most clients autocomplete nicknames if you type the first few chars and hit tab
01:28<jardiamj>my conky is looking good now!!
01:28<jardiamj>bones_was_here, thanks I didn't know that either, I'm new to IRC as well
01:29<shiloh>yeah i gotta set conky up new again, ill modify the .rcconky cfg
01:29<shiloh>whole new motherboard with options
01:29<shiloh>:P
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02:04<Luminous>I'm writing a Debian setup script, for future installs of Debian, and I wonder about something. I want to be able to install and set Gnome icon and Metacity themes. I've posted the files on my personal webserver, so where to get them isn't the issue, but is there a way to manage themes from the command line?
02:05<Luminous>This isn't a deal breaker it just takes a few seconds, but every task I can add to this setup script would make my life that much easier.
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02:35<ATerry71>test
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02:36<streuner_>failed
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02:37<ATerry71>test
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03:33<galiaff>привет всем
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03:34<jm_>!ru
03:34<galiaff>ru
03:34<dpkg>eto anglijsko govorjashhij kanal, pozhalujsta govorite po anglijski ili posetite #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
03:35<galiaff>ok
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03:36<Rehnquist>well gnome 3 looks pretty damned useless
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03:41<matsp888>heh
03:41*matsp888 is happy with Gnome 2
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03:42<kellar>yeah, everyone is trying to make my computier work more like my cellphone, and I want it the other way round.
03:42<matsp888>right
03:44<matsp888>everything's supposed to be as small as possible.... never mind the screen estate issues
03:44<matsp888>off-topic... sorry
03:44<Rehnquist>it's, essentially speaking, unusable. for me, at least.
03:44<matsp888>well, it will probably be to me as well
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03:44<Rehnquist>gnome 2 is fine, but if it'll be discontinued...
03:44<matsp888>i'm not switching as long as i don't have a compelling reason
03:45<matsp888>yeah... unfortunately
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03:45<xtremebot>hoA\
03:45<xtremebot>hola
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03:46<matsp888>if it wasn't for graphics "stuff" like watching images, video and what not, i would happily use console only
03:46<matsp888>but that's me
03:47<matsp888>end of off-topic rant
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03:55<Bushmills>xfce4 may be a suitable alternative to gnome2
03:56<Bushmills>some rough edges, but all in all rather similar
03:56<tensorpudding>not really
03:56<tensorpudding>the apps lead something to be desired
03:56<Bushmills>you can use gnome apps with xfce
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03:58<tensorpudding>yeah, but if gnome 2 goes away, you'll have to install gnome 3 to get those apps
03:58<tensorpudding>which is kinda silly
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04:24<somicuthbert>okay
04:24<somicuthbert>welcome
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04:34<Guest10850>hi guys
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05:04<somicuthbert>yes guest
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05:06<online>What's the command to set default audio output?
05:06<online>I have to sound cards, my USB is called "Speaker"
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05:08<online>nm, found it: sudo asoundconf set-default-card Speaker
05:08<jm_>online: probably the easiest is to set index 0 for the sound card you want to have as default, alternative is via .asoundrc
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05:09<online>brb
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05:09<jezt>HI
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05:09<jezt>I come from thailand
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05:10<toto>hi
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05:10<davide_>hallo
05:11<davide_>Hello!
05:11<davide_>ciao
05:11<jezt>where are you come from?
05:11<davide_>Italy
05:11<davide_>i need help
05:11<jezt>Yes
05:11<jezt>What u need?
05:11<davide_>i 've
05:11<davide_> ten servers
05:12<davide_>and i need to install debian on this server
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05:12<jezt>yes
05:12<online>worked like a charm :)
05:12<davide_>i think to use pxe
05:12<davide_>but
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05:12<davide_>i wanna download debian only one time
05:12<Black_Prince>dpkg, enter
05:12<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
05:12<davide_>beacause this servers arte the same
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05:13<davide_>so, what i can do?
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05:14<davide_>is it possible?
05:14<jm_>use a proxy/apt cacher|approx|.../NFS/...
05:15<davide_>ok, i search on google
05:15<davide_>or is there a wiki on debian website?
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05:17<jm_>google found this http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-multiple-debian-systems-with-approx.html
05:17<jm_>I'm sure you can find more for other tools (apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng ...)
05:18<davide_>ok, so if i comnbine pxe with apt-cacher, i can install the same debian on multiple servers in the same time?
05:20<SynrG>or at least consecutively
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05:21<SynrG>well, doing the first instance before all the others
05:21<davide_>mmmm
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05:22<davide_>so, i make the first server
05:22<davide_>and aftrer
05:22<davide_>i use it
05:23<davide_>as "mirror" for the others...
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05:23<davide_>but the question now is,
05:23<SynrG>it's not particularly which system is created (or updated) first. just that the cache be 'primed' first.
05:23<davide_>the pxe want internet conneciotn?
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05:24<SynrG>no, you can pxe boot with just a local network connection if apt is configured to point at the local apt cachcing proxy
05:24<davide_>ok
05:24<SynrG>er, sorry, i'm conflating two issues
05:25<davide_>ok
05:25<SynrG>you can pxe boot without the apt cache at all, obviously.
05:25<SynrG>but after pxe booting, you'll want to install packages next
05:25<davide_>ok i summarize,
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05:26<davide_>i installa debian via pxe or netinstall on the first server.
05:26<SynrG>yes. obviously, *that* machine needs internet or at least access to a local mirror
05:26<davide_>2 -> the first server is apt-cache and pxe server
05:26*SynrG nods
05:26<Black_Prince>If all servers are attached to one that server as server to them, that machine needs to have dhcp installed, also ...
05:27<Black_Prince>s/server/router/
05:27<Black_Prince>s/server as server/serves as router/
05:27<SynrG>Black_Prince: dhcp server needs to be colocated on the pxe boot server?
05:27<Black_Prince>yes
05:28<davide_>yes
05:28<davide_>:D
05:28<SynrG>that's a bit of an annoyance
05:28<lindi->SynrG: colocated?
05:28<SynrG>the same server hosts both the pxe server and the dhcp server
05:28<Black_Prince>dhcp will assign an address to pxe client and tell it for which filename to look on root of tftp server.
05:29<SynrG>lindi-: annoying because i have basic network services on my dlink running openwrt, but disk space and other resources on other systems
05:29<lindi->SynrG: I have dhcp server and tftp server on separate hosts
05:29<lindi->SynrG: and d-i works
05:29<SynrG>nothing stops me from making the openwrt box a pxe server, i suppose. just a minor annoyance
05:30<lindi->SynrG: the dhcp server is an alix box without moving parts
05:30<Bushmills>SynrG: there's dnsmasq on openwrt, which provides all you need for a net boot server
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05:32<lindi->even my phone has real bind :)
05:33<jm_>Bushmills: it's installed by default?
05:33<Black_Prince>dns server on mobile phone? WTF?
05:33<Bushmills>jm_: yes
05:33<jm_>Bushmills: nice
05:33<Bushmills>but not configured for uses as boot server by default
05:34<SynrG>Bushmills: ah, all self-contained? nice
05:35<SynrG>if/when i need such a thing, i'll look into it. thanks.
05:35<SynrG>once upon a time, i was pxe booting linux/vax images
05:35<SynrG>at that time, my router for my network was an old p100 box. long ago decommissioned
05:35<SynrG>(running debian, of course)
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05:36<SynrG>actually, not exactly pxe. DEC's equivalent
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05:36<SynrG>they use something called mopd. but this is very OT :)
05:36<SynrG>(well, still somewhat OT in that mopd is in debian)
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05:40<lindi->Black_Prince: yes, for use with adhoc wifi
05:42<daemonkeeper>And Tethering.
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07:18<deavid>How can I figure how many packages are needed to compile a program? (the program already compiles without problems)
07:19<jm_>deavid: debian source packages list this in the .dsc file
07:20<deavid>I meant for non debianized software. Is a 3rd party program which doesn't have any *.deb or *.rpm etc. The only distribution is a tar.bz2 of source code
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07:20<deavid>I'm asking if there's any tool to detect that
07:20<jm_>not in general no
07:21<jm_>auto-apt can help for example
07:21<deavid>i think i could list the *.so used by the binaries, but is very hard to translate that to package names
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07:23<wols_>that's fairly easy. you can use apt-file to see which packages have these libs in them
07:23<kellar>dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libFLAC.so.8.2.0
07:23<dpkg>There is no record of a /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libFLAC.so.8.2.0 package
07:23<kellar>libflac8: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libFLAC.so.8.2.0
07:23<kellar>heh
07:23<kellar>deavid: try it
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07:24<wols_>kellar: let apt-file search for libFLAC instead. no full path
07:24<deavid>works :-)
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07:24<kellar>wols: fair enough.
07:25<deavid>i prefer using the full path: is what ldd reports from the binary executable
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07:47<ufo_xx>всем привет
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07:48<ufo_xx>господа ктото ставил zabbix
07:48<blarson>!ru
07:48<dpkg>eto anglijsko govorjashhij kanal, pozhalujsta govorite po anglijski ili posetite #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
07:48<ompaul>!ru
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07:48<ufo_xx>sory
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08:22<myk42>hi
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08:25<eeemsi__>hi there
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08:26<eeemsi__>does anybody else get only "aw, snap" pages when using chromium from sid?
08:27<eeemsi__>it seems to work just fine on a 32bit machine but not on a 64bit machine - what happens there is the case mentioned above
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08:31<dima_>hi..how can I get rid of an annoying output in console? it tells me something about usb ports, but (much like dmesg), but it enters though vim, links and other console app. ( i want to use debian as command line only system )
08:32<eeemsi__>i tried rm -r .config/chromium, .local/share/webkit and .cache/chromium already but nothing changes
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08:32<jm_>dima_: did you check if the same messages show up in the output of the dmesg command?
08:35<lindi->dima_: adjust console log level?
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08:36<dima_>how to adjust it? I modified something in rsyslog.conf, but it doesnt help
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08:37<dima_>ok...checked . it the same as the last lines of dmesg
08:37<jm_>!printk console
08:37<dpkg>it has been said that printk is see docs for <sysctl> and adjust /etc/sysctl.conf kernel.printk (3 4 1 7 or so). You can also use 'dmesg -n1' command. See http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt or man 5 proc /printk for meaning of the numbers (console_loglevel, default_message_loglevel, minimum_console_level, default_console_loglevel)
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08:40<dima_>thx
08:40<longshanks>eeemsi__: err.. why you running from sid? you can get stable versions build against debian stable from dl.google.com
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08:41<eeemsi__>longshanks: i do not want to use chrome as it is still tracking their users down
08:42<jm_>longshanks: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611041
08:43<jm_>longshanks: sorry that was supposed to be for eeemsi__
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08:43<jm_>eeemsi__ ^^^^
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08:44<eeemsi__>jm_: it does happen always on that machine. even for preferences
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08:45<jm_>eeemsi__: perhaps try to contribute to this bug
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08:47<longshanks>eeemsi__: well you should see Chromium OS. it's 'aw, snap' all over the place.
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08:48<eeemsi__>longshanks: oh that less ^^
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08:51<eeemsi__>i jumped back to the version from testing and it works... hopefully chromium is not getting to fast from sid to testing
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08:55<longshanks>eeemsi__: which version of chromium is in sid and testing?
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08:55<wols_>,versions chromium-browser
08:55<judd>Package chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze5; squeeze-proposed-updates: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; wheezy: 13.0.782.220~r99552-1; experimental: 14.0.835.157~r99685-1; sid: 14.0.835.163~r101024-1
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08:56<longshanks>ah.. there is a 14 in experimental!
08:56<eeemsi__>where is sid?
08:57<longshanks>I'm running 14 but the Google branded version, Chrome. I run stable and the version in stable is pretty old and there are no backports
08:57<devil>eeemsi__: at the end?
08:58<eeemsi__>devil: oops xD
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09:02<longshanks>eeemsi__: have you tried lynx ;-P
09:03<eeemsi__>i was using links2 as replacement for chromium for ~2 days now. but thats not the topic atm
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09:09<eeemsi__>but links2 cant work with https =(
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09:26<jase>:( Getting a weird error after uninstalling exim4 when I'm trying to re-install it :/
09:26<jase>E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'exim4-daemon-heavy'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) <- anyone know how to fix this?
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09:27<devil>jase: by doing what the error suggests?
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09:28<eli>\list
09:29<eli>join #debian-ru
09:29<jase>devil, I did that, but it doesn't explain how to turn it off, or why I'm getting the error -.-
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09:33<SynrG>jase: -o APT::Immediate-Configure=false
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09:33<SynrG>as per apt-get(8), see doc for -o
09:36<jase>SynrG, makes no difference :/
09:37<SynrG>then you're doing it wrong?
09:37<SynrG>what's the exact command you're typing
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09:38<jase>root@atlas:/etc# apt-get install exim4-daemon-heavy -o APT::Immediate-Configure=false
09:39<SynrG>argh. i think it takes 'on' or 'off'
09:39<SynrG>failure by me to read the apt.conf doc correctly (and by you to cross-check what i'm telling you to type ;)
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09:41<SynrG>bleah. the doc really isn't that clear, though. it doesn't state what valid values of booleans are in general. and it only implies 'off' by saying it defaults to 'on'
09:41<jase>Tried it with 'false', 'off', '0', and even 'true', 'on', and '1', just in case it was being inverted.
09:41<SynrG>bleah
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09:46<jase>setting the value in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ doesn't help either
09:46<jase>This happened to me before once and I can't remember how I fixed it :|
09:51<SynrG>me too. i thought i just did what i said above
09:51<SynrG>sigh
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09:53<jase>Is there a command to force uninstall of a package without trying to install it's replacements or anything?
09:55<jase>I thought it was under dpkg, but I can't remember.
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10:01<SynrG>you can, leaving the system temporarily broken. read the dpkg man page about --force options
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10:04<jase>Thanks :) That did it.
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10:04<jase>Did dpkg --force-depends --remove postfix then apt-get -f install, and now I can install exim4-daemon-heavy
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10:15<keekdown_>the ide for c/c++?
10:15<keekdown_>best
10:15<jase>Eh, I like Eclipse myself.
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10:19<keekdown_>and all&
10:19<keekdown_>?
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10:20<wols_>!tell keekdown_ about best
10:20<longshanks>keekdown_: best is subjective
10:21<longshanks>keekdown_: what are your requirements ?
10:21<amitz>jase: just remember that eclipse may disappears at any time from debian ;-)
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10:22<wols_>is it even part of debian? I kinda doubt it
10:22<amitz>complex dependencies, or so I heard.
10:22<jase>amitz, I install eclipse myself, never via packages O-o
10:22<longshanks>what's wrong with vim ?
10:22<jase>All it needs is Java isn't it?
10:22<wols_>seems it's in main
10:23<wols_>jase: which is kinda icky. no more oracle java for linux
10:23<amitz>wols_: oh, I thought you were joking.
10:23<jase>wols_, can't you just install the sun-jdk and sun-jvm?
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10:25<keekdown_>eclipse depends
10:25<keekdown_> Depends: eclipse-jdt (>= 3.5.2-11) but it is not going to be installed
10:25<keekdown_> Depends: eclipse-pde (>= 3.5.2-11) but it is not going to be installed
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10:29<wols_>jase: oracle discontinued their jvm for linux. from now on it's only openjdk for java7 apparently
10:30<wols_>,versions eclpise-jdt
10:30<judd>Sorry, no package named 'eclpise-jdt' was found in i386.
10:30<wols_>,versions eclipse-jdt
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10:30<judd>Package eclipse-jdt on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.2-6squeeze2; sid: 3.5.2-11; experimental: 3.7~exp-5
10:30<wols_>keekdown_: please pastebin your sources.list
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10:33<keekdown_><wols_> i am use distribute "aptosid"
10:33<keekdown_>Throw your list
10:35<wols_>!aptosid
10:35<dpkg>aptosid (formerly sidux) is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid. It is not supported in #debian. http://aptosid.com/ #aptosid on irc.oftc.net.
10:35<wols_>have a nice day
10:36<keekdown_>i know,sid
10:36<wols_>no you don't run sid. you don't run debian. please go to the channel of your distro. thank you
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10:38<helty>btw. debian sid works great, I'm happy with xfce4. But after my upgrade i've time after time problem with suspending/hibernating , but probably my fault :]
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10:49<longshanks>why did java choose to discontinue jvm for linux ?
10:50<longshanks>erm, oracle
10:50<ompaul>longshanks: larry@oracle.com
10:50<daemonkeeper>Because Larry likes to upset the FOSS community
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10:51<daemonkeeper>Its only consequent, after scaring off people from OpenOffice, Solaris, MySQL, ...
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10:52<longshanks>it's a joke. i hope they don't fuck up virtualbox
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10:53<longshanks>will postgres start replacing mysql in distros .. ?
10:53<daemonkeeper>Both is available.
10:54<daemonkeeper>If anything, MySQL would need to be replaced by MariaDB
10:54<longshanks>not heard of mariadb. will go google.
10:54<daemonkeeper>But I don't see any evidence that this will happen anytime soon.
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10:55<longshanks>or it could just fork?
10:55<daemonkeeper>That's pretty much what MariaDB is.
10:55<daemonkeeper>FSVO of fork.
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11:09<rpetre>i like the Percona guys better than the MariaDB guys
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11:11<fbs>what is the proper way to install moonlight in firefox wheezy + ff5.0
11:11<fbs>the moonlight website 4 preview only works for 4, and the link to the nightly is dead
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11:12<bfly>hi, I have an apt (on maemo) related question, which I don't think people in the maemo channels can answer, and i don't think there is a dedicated apt channel, and since i'm also a debian user and knowing this answer will also help me using debian:
11:13<bfly>How can i make a GPG key ultimatively trusted based on tis key ID or fingerprint, without actually having access to the key?
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11:13<bfly>that's trusted to APT.
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11:16<bfly>the underlying issue is that nokia has changed the GPG key they use for signing their archives, but there's sufficient indication (to me) that this key is in fact that of this repository and i'm not being man-in-the-middle'd. So I would like to be able to use apt-get on this repository (only) without running into the "Install these packages without verification [y/N]?" prompt.
11:16<bfly>Is there a way to achieve this?
11:17<wols_>bfly: we do not support maemo
11:17<bfly>wols_: okay, so please scratch maemo, and consider it a theoretical question related to debian
11:18<bfly>the answer, if any, is still the same, and still of interest to me.
11:18<wols_>!they don't know
11:18<dpkg>Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google.
11:18<wols_>bfly: please stop. thank you
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11:19<bfly>wols_: i think i tried to explain, in several words, why this question matters to me as a debian user.
11:20<sney>bfly: take it to #debian-offtopic and you might get more bites. but since #debian is an official support resource we just can't support non-debian OSes
11:20<wols_>and I tried to explain you that we don't support maemo. and your shenanigans about it are not appreciated
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11:21<bfly>sney: thank you.
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11:25<scisteffan>Hi, i'm running debian unstable on a machine that has problems accessing the network. There is no network configuration in Gnome in system preferences, but network-manager is running
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11:26<daemonkeeper>scisteffan: #debian-next is dedicated to unstable support. If nobody knows immediate help, please ask there instead.
11:27<wols_>daemonkeeper: with a problem description like that? good luck (no matter where he asks)
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11:38<sney>wols_: you're just a bucket of sunshine today aren't you
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11:40<hijack[xchat]>tp ada waktu solat la
11:40<hijack[xchat]>best jugak
11:41<hijack[xchat]> ﴿١﴾
11:41<hijack[xchat]>
11:41<hijack[xchat]>ذَٰلِكَ الْكِتَابُ لَا رَيْبَ ۛ فِيهِ ۛ هُدًى لِلْمُتَّقِينَ [٢:٢]
11:41<hijack[xchat]>Kitab Al-Quran ini, tidak ada sebarang syak padanya (tentang datangnya dari Allah dan tentang sempurnanya); ia pula menjadi petunjuk bagi orang-orang yang (hendak) bertakwa;
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11:43<longshanks>do Debian do any modification to the stock kernel ?
11:43<sney>some patches are applied but I think they're optional kernel.org patches
11:44<longshanks>great. thanks.
11:44<lindi->longshanks: there are a lot of patches to linux :)
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11:46<tensorpudding>download a source package and look in the debian directory
11:46<sney>http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/linux-2.6 seems to have it as well
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11:48<ahmed>django
11:48<cthuluh>!django
11:48<dpkg>Django is an open source, high-level web development framework written in <Python>. Packaged for Debian as python-django, "apt-cache search python-django" for related packages. http://www.djangoproject.com/ #django on irc.freenode.net.
11:49<cthuluh>(if it was a question)
11:49<ahmed>thanks
11:50<tensorpudding>dang, there sure are a lot of patches
11:51<jhutchins_lt>tensorpudding: Which is why simple version comparisons are fauty.
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11:52*koollman feels like whining a bit about open bugs
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11:52<longshanks>do these patches exist to cover the time it takes for them to be incorporated natively in the kernel?
11:53<wols_>probably not. most are probably to make sure the single source package works for all of debian architectures
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11:53<longshanks>wols_: ahhh yes. of course
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11:54<longshanks>I always forget about one of debian's greatest achievements.. running it on a single platform all the time :)
11:55<koollman>So ... thanks to the great bug report system, I've found most bugs related to my current problems. Now ... I need ideas about where to go from there. I have autofs problems on squeeze, at least those two : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626473 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602090 . The first one propose a patch, and I might have to try it one one system. For the second one ... I don't really know what to do. suggestions
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11:57<longshanks>koollman: you've just reminded me. I found a bug in rsync that I need to report
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11:59<koollman>longshanks: yeah, well, the bugs I found are reported already. But that doesn't solve them for me :)
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12:01<longshanks>koollman: depends on if you want to get your hands dirty :)
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12:01<koollman>I don't really care. I need this stuff to work one way or another
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12:03<koollman>I'm deploying a new hosting system, Was using etch before, jumped to squeeze for the new boxes and modified some stuff. I expected errors on other sides, but not autofs which always 'just worked' for me. (it's rather old after all)
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12:03<koollman>And now I find all kind of interesting bugs outstanding, not closed and with no direct solutions :)
12:03<longshanks>I get "inflate (token) returned -5" and a crash in rsync protocol data stream : (code 12) at io.c(635) [generator=3.0.3]
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12:04<longshanks>don't even know how to go about finding out if anyone knows about that one?!
12:04<Bushmills>koollman: did you upgrade config files too? or simply continued using the config files from your etch installation?
12:04<koollman>Bushmills: no upgrade. full separate servers, new installation scripts and all
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12:06<Bushmills>then "worked for me" (implying not doing it any more) needs a tiny bit of clarification
12:06<longshanks>ah, looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525021
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12:08<anbe>,versions rsync
12:08<judd>Package rsync on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.3-2; lenny-backports: 3.0.7-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.0.7-2; sid: 3.0.8-1; wheezy: 3.0.8-1; experimental: 3.0.9~pre2-2
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12:09<brian_>#filmer on EF-Net
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12:09<koollman>Bushmills: the simplest one is this one : automount reports a syntax error in nsswitch.conf http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602090 (I'm currently doing the modifications suggested and see if there's any change).
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12:10<koollman>the complex one is using 'recursive' automount systems, like here : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626473
12:10<koollman>my config is very similar to this one
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12:10<koollman>but it will take me more time to recompile and test the upstream patch (which is already reported to work anyway)
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12:11<koollman>admitting it does work for me ... it means I will have to maintain my own autofs5 package ... which doesn't seem like a good solution.
12:11<koollman>any way to get this patch included in the next release ?
12:12<koollman>(ideally ... before that, too ;) )
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12:13<rpetre>koollman: test the patch, then submit it as comment to that bug
12:13<rpetre>i had a similar issue and pointed out the commit that fixed it upstream, it got included in the next release
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12:14<koollman>yep, that's what I planned. I just find it awkward to see no answer or reaction to the first submission. it was submitted, with a working patch and a problem description, in may
12:14<rpetre>("similar" = "kernel issue that had an upstream fix", not "automount issue")
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12:15<rpetre>i know people that are extremely disatissfied with how the kernel team handles patches, personally i had good experiences with them, so ymmv
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12:17<EmleyMoor>Is there a good guide on how to make a diskless Debian workstation, served from a Debian server?
12:17<koollman>shouldn't there be a reminder to some devs that looks over the global debian bugs "This bug affecting squeeze has been opened for more than 4 months with no answer or acknowledgement" ?
12:17<koollman>I often see at least automated replies
12:17<Nik05>Hello guys, does someone know a mediaplayer that can play HD 1080p movies without lag?
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12:18<Nik05>my CPU is at 100% and i think my GPU does nothing...
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12:18<Nik05>used totem and vlc
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12:23<jhutchins_lt>Nik05: mplayer
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12:26<eeemsi__>oh wow - mplayer2 is available ^^
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12:34<Nik05>ok i will try it thanks jhutchins
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12:36<james>#xbins and then type /msg xbins !list
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12:37<Guest10902>#xbins and then type /msg xbins !list
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12:38<eeemsi__>,versions mplayer2
12:38<judd>Package mplayer2 on i386 -- sid: 2.0-134-g84d8671-6; sid-multimedia: 1:2.0~git20110809-0.0; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0~git20110809-0.0
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12:41<Nik05>thanks jhutchins_lt great program :D
12:42<eeemsi__>,versions planetplanet
12:42<judd>Sorry, no package named 'planetplanet' was found in i386.
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12:44<eeemsi__>,versions planet-venus
12:44<judd>Package planet-venus on i386 -- lenny: 0~bzr95-2+lenny1; sid: 0~bzr116-1; squeeze: 0~bzr116-1; wheezy: 0~bzr116-1
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12:54<SynrG>eeemsi__: you could query judd for those if they were just for your private enlightenment
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13:22<vmassuchetto>How can I "fix" the appearance caused by the themes of new GTK3 apps?
13:22<vmassuchetto>Is there any deb package ready for these themes?
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13:24<Black_Prince>vmassuchetto, gnome-themes-standard is gtk3 theme
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13:25<vmassuchetto>Black_Prince, Does that look like Windows 95?
13:25<vmassuchetto>Black_Prince, Because this is the one I'm seeing. =/
13:26<Black_Prince>vmassuchetto, it is adwaita engine and some standard theme ... by the way I don't know what win95 looked like
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13:27<vmassuchetto>Black_Prince, This theme doesn't render very nice here.
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14:08<tmpacc>anyone know how to use "SUDO" when im going to be root in debian (just like Ubuntu)
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14:08<Black_Prince>dpkg, sudo
14:08<dpkg>[sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". See also <sudo path>. http://wiki.debian.org/sudo http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html
14:09<Black_Prince>my recommendation is to use su (for cli) and gksu (for gui)
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14:13<tmpacc>Black_Prince: isnt sudo better?
14:14<Black_Prince>Better or not, I still prefer su over sudo
14:15<daemonkeeper>Yes, prepending "sudo" in front of every command makes you look like a skilled person.
14:15<Black_Prince>(for system administrator that is) ... I'd use sudo only if I had someone else using this computer to give him some privileges ...
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14:15<Erbureth>tmpacc: both have their advantages and disadvantages
14:15<daemonkeeper>Only pros are using sudo.
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14:15<tmpacc>http://wiki.debian.org/sudo - in that config i can only use sudo when im going to use package manager or reboot the system
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14:16<Black_Prince>sudo reboot (type your password) ... su -c 'reboot' (type your password)
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14:17<Black_Prince>or su - (type password) ... do your stuff as root ... exit (maintenance) or sudo cmd1 ; sudo cmd2 ; sudo cmd3 ; (I've even seen sudo cd /usr/src) :/
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14:17<tmpacc>Black_Prince: because sometimes i want to use "sudo nano" when editing root files
14:17<alazare619>ayneon have na idea why i cant mount a fat32 drive
14:18<alazare619>im dding it to zero now but every time i try to mount it it says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1
14:18<Black_Prince>alazare619, check /etc/fstab and remove /dev/sdb1 line with iso9660,udf line :-|
14:18<Black_Prince>alazare619, or something similar
14:18<Bushmills>because your mount-fu isn't lacking sophistication?
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14:18<alazare619>i dont have anything fstabed tho :P
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14:18<alazare619>i was doign it via terminal
14:19<Black_Prince>alazare619, you dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb ?
14:19<alazare619>yea
14:19<alazare619>zeroing out the drive now and seeing if that helps
14:19<alazare619>had a fealing after i dd=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb it might of caused an issue
14:19<Black_Prince>alazare619, you (re)created partition table with (c)fdisk and then formated it as fat{16,32} ?
14:19<alazare619>even tho i erased all the partitions
14:20<alazare619>yea black
14:20<alazare619>new table and new partitions
14:20<Black_Prince>alazare619, then check dmesg after running mount command, it shall give you some hint :-|
14:20<alazare619>then put hte info on it but its still not mounting so as a last ditch effort since i dont have another jump drive to see if its debian im /dev/zero dd the drive
14:20<alazare619>od thing is that windows sees it
14:20<Bushmills>alazare619: use disktype on that device, to see what it actually is
14:21<alazare619>disktype?
14:21<Black_Prince>alazare619, I'd still recommend you to check /etc/fstab because d-i adds line that recognises usb drive used for install as cdrom device ...
14:21<alazare619>not familiar with the command
14:21<alazare619>ooo
14:21<alazare619>ill check that now bp
14:22<alazare619>blah
14:22<Black_Prince>tmpacc, none forces you to use or not to use sudo ... as I told you, you can always su to root, do your stuff, exit ... instead of typing sudo command every time ... It is your system and your choice - use what you feel it is better for you
14:22<alazare619>your too damn good Black_Prince
14:22<alazare619>it was there lol
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14:22<alazare619>will it add iso fs if i burnt it as a iso?
14:22<alazare619>and not dd'ed it to a drive?
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14:23<Black_Prince>it adds device used for installation in /etc/fstab as cdrom drive ... (if used iso) or usb drive (if used hd-media installation)
14:23<alazare619>hmm
14:23<alazare619>interesting
14:23<alazare619>never knew that
14:23<Black_Prince>strange bug since squeeze ... I've seen lot of same questions on forums and on bts
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14:24<Black_Prince>maybe it will get fixed in squeeze 6.0.3 (big maybe)
14:24<alazare619>brb gotta reboot
14:24<alazare619>and copy over my files over to nix on my jump drive now
14:24<__Alex_>Is there a way to install debian from the shell?
14:24<alazare619>did all the coding in a vbox under windows since i didnt have a nix partition lol
14:24<__Alex_>Witouth D-I
14:24<Bushmills>__Alex_: debootstrap
14:24<daemonkeeper>__Alex_: debootstrap
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14:25<Black_Prince>__Alex_, debootstrap
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14:25<alazare619>__Alex_, debootstrap
14:25<alazare619>i had to be cool and say it too
14:25<Erbureth>__Alex_: cdebootstrap
14:25<Erbureth>:)
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14:25<Bushmills>laggers :)
14:25<__Alex_>Ok, i'll try debootstrap :)
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14:30<jmfurlott>is eclipse not available for wheezy in the repository
14:31<blarson>,versions eclipse
14:31<judd>Package eclipse on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.2-6squeeze2; sid: 3.5.2-11; experimental: 3.6.2~exp-1; experimental: 3.7~exp-5
14:32<blarson>jmfurlott: looks like it isn't in wheezy currently.
14:32<jmfurlott>blarson, should i build it from source then? or try to install a squeeze or sid version?
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14:33<Black_Prince>sid and wheezy should be pretty close, however you can install it - but on your own risk
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14:34<Black_Prince>check it's qa page for "testing excuses" and think about what are you doing
14:34<jmfurlott>okay thanks Black_Prince
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14:43<christian>christian
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14:47<christian>niknam christian
14:48<daemonkeeper>You are already called christian. And you are looking for / (the command prefix that is)
14:48<devil>your nick is christian already
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14:54<tmpacc>anyone know where to find root termianl when using KDE version of debian?
14:54<tmpacc>terminal*
14:55<Erbureth>tmpacc: konsole and su -
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14:56<chealer>tmpacc: which Debian suite do you use?
14:57<tmpacc>chealer: KDE
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14:57<chealer>tmpacc: do you use Debian 5, 6 or what?
14:57<tmpacc>Debian Squeeze 6.0.2
14:57<Erbureth>tmpacc: or you can create your own Konsole launcher, but that's overkill, imho
14:59<tmpacc>Erbureth: But if i want to install drivers for graphic card, is there same commands as on GNOME?
14:59<Erbureth>tmpacc: which drivers do you want to install?
15:00<tmpacc>Erbureth: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
15:00<Erbureth>tmpacc: for both NVidia and Catalyst there are corresponding packages, which is way better for debian
15:01<chealer>tmpacc: there is no more root shell profile by default in KDE 4.
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15:01<Erbureth>tmpacc: commands are the same, you can even use your favorite package manager to install the packages
15:01<tmpacc>ok
15:02<Erbureth>tmpacc: after that you just need to run aticonfig --initial as root
15:02<Erbureth>and then reboot the system
15:05<__Alex_>Does anyone have Experience with Buggy USB soundcards on Debian?
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15:23<andres_>jpokpo
15:23<andres_>hi????????
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15:24<wols_>andres_: yes?
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15:29<Bushmills>__Alex_: do you?
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15:35<olspookishmagus>hello... can someone look as well what does the g key do when vieweing a movie with mplayer? http://pastebin.com/qm2RYpfz
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15:43<amoe>olspookishmagus: on my system, 'G' prints out the current time position within the file on the console
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15:46<amoe>are you asking, why isn't it bound in /etc/mplayer/input.conf?
15:47<amoe>I believe the default config is hardcoded in the binary, I don't think that file is used.
15:47<amoe>Or, maybe it's used but not exclusively
15:48<amoe>Certainly commenting out lines from that file does not cause the bindings to stop working in mplayer
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15:50<olspookishmagus>amoe: so what you propose is to file a bug report?
15:52<amoe>olspookishmagus: no, I don't consider that a problem
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15:52<amoe>If you want to unbind things, you can bind them to 'ignore' in your input.conf
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15:52<amoe>(I think that's little documented, but it works anyway.)
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16:10<skessa>hello , im trying to get partypoker installed at debian, used apt-get install wine, downloaded partypoker, but i get a problem wen im gona install it , i cant find a lockal plase to put the installation that works.
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16:17<Erbureth>skessa: you might want to consult http://appdb.winehq.org/ Also you might need newer version of Wine, which is not in official repo
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16:24<skessa>Erbureth: im new to devian, or linux at all , but i did apt-get install wine
16:25<skessa>wont the newst version get installed?
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16:25<Erbureth>,versions wine
16:25<judd>Package wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; sid: 1.0.1-3.3; experimental: 1.1.24-2
16:25<Erbureth>,versions wine-unstable
16:25<judd>Package wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.1.35-1
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16:26<Erbureth>skessa: and newest version of wine is 1.3.28
16:26<luciano>ciao ho bisogno di aiuto
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16:26<Erbureth>!it
16:26<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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16:27<skessa>Erbureth: how to see wich version i have now ?
16:27<luciano>non c'è nessuno
16:27<apoleon>skessa: the wine packages in the debian repositories are outdated, but there are unoffical packages at http://www.winehq.org/download/debian which are up-to-date
16:27<skessa>ok thanks
16:28<Erbureth>luciano: nous ne parlons pas italien
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16:29<jobar>hi, what to change in the project configuration files to use clang on unix(debian)?
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16:30<skessa>ok , so how do i remove the old wine and install the new version , dont forget you all have been newbies once, :)
16:30<skessa>?
16:30<jobar>I tried export CC=clang but the compilation stop with error
16:31<jobar>sorrie rong chanell :(
16:31<jhutchins_lt>skessa: Check for directions on the winehq page.
16:31<apoleon>skessa: you can remove wine with aptitude remove wine or aptitude purge wine (config files are also deleted)
16:32<skessa>ok thanks.
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16:39<skessa>i download wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5.debian.tar.bz2
16:39<skessa>and how do i install it ? :S sorry as i told you new in debian :
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16:39<apoleon>skessa: now dpkg -i ;)
16:39<skessa>dpkg -i wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5.debian.tar.bz2
16:39*dpkg installs wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5.debian.tar.bz2 into skessa's head with a bone saw and a few screws
16:40<skessa>?
16:40<skessa>dpkg: hehe
16:40*dpkg laughs so loud it bursts its buffers and everything ends up in bit-buckets
16:40<wols_>skessa: no. apoleon is wrong
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16:40<wols_>skessa: dpkg is a bot
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16:40<skessa>ok but dpkg -i is for installing packages in linux wols.
16:41<apoleon>yes trust me
16:41<skessa>apoleon: i got
16:41<skessa>dpkg -i wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5.debian.tar.bz2
16:41<dpkg>package wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5.debian.tar.bz2 is already installed
16:41<skessa>dpkg: error processing wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5.debian.tar.bz2 (--install):
16:41<skessa> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
16:41<skessa>Errors were encountered while processing:
16:41<skessa> wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5.debian.tar.bz2
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16:42<wols_>skessa: dpkg can only install .deb packages, not a tarball like yours which is probably source code. which debian do you run?
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16:43<apoleon>oh i see there are also .deb package on the site i mentioned before, please download wine-unstable_1.3.28-0.5_i386.deb
16:43<skessa>wols_: how to tell ?
16:43<wols_>skessa: cat /etc/debian_version
16:44<wols_>apoleon: how do you know these debs work for him?
16:44<skessa>6,0,2
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16:44<wols_>skessa: then what apoleon tells you won't work.
16:44<wols_>apoleon: please check more carefully befoer you try to help people
16:44<skessa>ok wat will work ? can you help ?
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16:45<apoleon>skessa: are you using debian stable oder debian unstable?
16:45<wols_>currently there is no recent wine for debian squeeze
16:45<wols_>apoleon: < skessa> 6,0,2
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16:45<skessa>ok so that wil say i cant get an wine 1.3.28 ?
16:46<wols_>not easily, no
16:46<skessa>ok how is the hard way ? :P
16:46<apoleon>ok, then wols_ is right, there are no up-to-date packages for debian stable at the moment
16:46<wols_>skessa: you compile your own copy of wine...
16:46<skessa>i need it , need to play at partypoker, and i just got to linux from windows.
16:47<skessa>wols_: okey apt-get compile and then ? :S
16:48<wols_>skessa: this is above your expertise, sorry
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16:48<myk42>h
16:48<skessa>hehe i knowe, thats why i need help for it , i need the partypoker to work , into tomorow :)
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16:50<apoleon>skessa: there are two choices you can upgrade your debian installation to debian unstable and the packages at winehq should work or you try to compile them on debian stable
16:51<apoleon>but like wols_ said that is not a task for beginners
16:51<wols_>apoleon: no need for sid there
16:52<skessa>so to upgrade my debian do i need to reinstall it ? or is it other ways ? like i knowe apt-upgrade but wil that upgrade my version of debian :P ?
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16:52<skessa>gpt-upgrade i have forgot the command but yeah ?
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16:57<arnau_>hello?
16:57<arnau_>is there some that could help me?
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16:58<arnau_>hello?
16:58<streuner_>arnau_: no
16:58<streuner_>arnau_: not unless you tell us some details
16:58<arnau_>ok
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17:00<arnau_>i have an iphone 4 and I have done a synchronization with banshee and then it wasn't very good and I deleted all files and I can't play songs
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17:03<arnau_>now I deleted all songs and in the iPod app it says that there are all songs without cover but when i want to play it returns to the menu
17:03<arnau_>what can I do?
17:04<streuner_>buy something else which is better supported?
17:04<skessa>arnau_: you have jailbreaked it ?
17:05<arnau_>yes but not for this
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17:06<skessa>oho lol iPod sorry thot it was iphone , cant help
17:06<arnau_>it is iphone, not ipod
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17:07<skessa>arnau_: i msg u, go there you get all the help you need for that kind.
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17:08<Tatrasiel>does anyone know how to add repositories via terminal?
17:08<streuner_>Tatrasiel: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
17:08<amoe>Tatrasiel: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
17:08<streuner_>hehe
17:08<amoe>woop
17:08<valdyn>oddly enough most people dont know how to do it outside terminal
17:09<Tatrasiel>I like to do everyhitng in the terminal
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17:09<valdyn>s/people/debian users/
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17:10<Tatrasiel>isn't there something like wget add reponame?
17:10<streuner_>no
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17:10<streuner_>just use aptitude/apt-get
17:10<streuner_>Tatrasiel: man sources.list
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17:11<streuner_>Tatrasiel: /msg dpkg sources.list
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17:17<Tatrasiel>ok, this seems to be a step closer.
17:17<Tatrasiel>I think some of my repos were deleted when my bro played with my comp
17:17<Tatrasiel>I get no installation canidate when reinstalling firefox
17:18<retrospectacus>!firefox
17:18<dpkg>Mozilla Firefox is replaced by Iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel> and <why iceweasel>.
17:18<MrFrood>firefox or iceweasel?
17:18<Tatrasiel>firefox
17:18<Tatrasiel>I have never heard of Icweasel
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17:19<MrFrood>no firefox in ddebian
17:19<retrospectacus>firefox is not in debian. see above
17:19<Tatrasiel>ok
17:19<Tatrasiel>ah I get it
17:19<MrFrood>mozilla.debian.net
17:19<skessa>so iceweasel is firefox ?on a weerd way ?
17:19<Tatrasiel>funny
17:19<streuner_>dpkg, iceweasel
17:19<dpkg>Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. See also <iceweasel backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel
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17:20<Tatrasiel>ok I think I got it.
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17:20<Tatrasiel>thanks
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17:36<myk42>Hi I have upgraded my debian Lenny system to Squeeze, instead of my usual fresh install, and now ihave no xwindows environment. I have two different kernels on my boot splash screen, the newer one will not let me acess the net (it contains a xorg.config file however - whereas ...) and the older version will let me acces the net but i am unable to start an xeserver on either with "startx" (the older version while letting me acces net has no xorg.config) . It has bee
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17:38<wols_>myk42:if you have a xorg.conf or not has nothing to do with kernels. plase show us the output of dpkg -l linuy-image* and tell us what network card you use
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17:39<wols_>myk42: dpkg -l linux-image* rather
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17:40<myk42>i have a "ATI Radeon 9700 pro (which is an r300 card)
17:41<wols_>NETWORK, not videocard
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17:43<retrospectacus>your video drivers probably don't work on the new kernel too. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
17:44<wols_>retrospectacus: he said they work on the new kernel, but the network doesn't. with the old kernel, net works but video does not
17:44<retrospectacus>oh, sorry
17:44*retrospectacus will pay better attention or keep his mouth shut
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17:45<myk42>wols_: output of that comand is 13 lines - with only 3 lines with an available desciption, with one mentioned Lenny with older kernel and other with just new kernel numbering (all 3 start with leters "ii")
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17:46<myk42>yes no net on new kernel
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17:46<wols_>!paste
17:46<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>, <nopaste>.
17:48<myk42>thanks wols_ & retrospectacus: i however am the one that needs to pay attention :-)
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17:49<myk42>i am running txt only at the moment - how do i paste that output - 2 lines at a time ?
17:50<wols_>!pastewithoutx
17:50<dpkg>Install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://paste.debian.net; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://paste.debian.net/ ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about <paste2pastebin pipe>
17:50<MrFrood>myk42: /msg dpkg pastebinit
17:50<MrFrood>or what wols_ just posted
17:51<retrospectacus>pastebinit is best IMO... those other methods are more annoying
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17:54<retrospectacus>apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l linux-image* | pastebinit
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17:55<wp>anyone have any idea what 'failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled' means by chance? This is logged during boot messages
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17:58<retrospectacus>wp: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%27failed%20to%20get%20i915%20symbols%2C%20graphics%20turbo%20disabled%27
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18:03<myk42>retrospectacus: here is URL from pastebinit:-
18:03<mustafa>hi
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18:04<myk42>http://pastebin.com/zfaTj9We sorry for slow typing btw :-)
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18:09<richie>hey guys. what should i use to put the deb iso on a usb stick?
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18:09<MrFrood>!usbboot
18:09<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
18:09<myk42>retrospectacus: that URL once more:- http:/pastebin.com/zfaTj9We
18:10<retrospectacus>myk42: sorry if I gave the impression I needed that output... was just saying how to use pastebinit. I don't really know who or what that was for
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18:10<MrFrood>I think wols_ asked for it
18:11<myk42>ahh! np very cool btw i just read on another pc :)
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18:13<myk42>wols_: very sorry you did ask for the output of the dpkg -l linux-image* command
18:13<richie>MrFrood, so i have the usb stick and the net iso. i should use the zcat in term to create the oot usb?
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18:14<retrospectacus>richie: not zcat... it's just an iso, it's not gzipped
18:14<myk42>wols_: would be very grateful if you could look at output for me
18:14<retrospectacus>richie: it clearly says exactly how to do it in the install guide
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18:15<richie>retrospectacus, ahh ok, thanks.. but i just remember, i need to use a cd, as the bios doesnt support usb stick booting.
18:15<retrospectacus>ehhh so why do you keep saying usb
18:15<richie>i keep forgettin which tower i'm working wiht.
18:16<richie>only have bout 7 towers active right now
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18:16<wp>you can never have too many towers
18:16<richie>what bout using Plop,
18:17<richie>wp i agree
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18:19<retrospectacus>myk42: did you already say what is the network card in question? please do ''lspci -nn |grep -i net |pastebinit''
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18:21<myk42>yes ATI Radeon 9700 pro (r300 card)
18:21<myk42>yes ATI Radeon 9700 pro (r300 card)
18:21<Black_Prince>myk42, not video card, network card
18:22<myk42>ahh right ok
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18:24<myk42>retrospectacus: that URL is:- http:/pastebin.com/1NW4HWna
18:24<retrospectacus>close but I'll get there
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18:27<Black_Prince>myk42, have you upgraded from lenny to squeeze or did fresh install?
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18:28<Black_Prince>oh you did ...
18:28<myk42>upgrade over Lenny
18:28<myk42>normally do fresh install
18:29<Black_Prince>myk42, so ... do you have any xorg.conf ?
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18:29<myk42>no xorg.config
18:30<myk42>i am booting into the older of the two versions that show up on my splash screen after bootup now
18:31<myk42>no xorg.config but can acces net
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18:31<Black_Prince>myk42, try removing /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot into squeeze kernel
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18:32<Black_Prince>2.6.32 one
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18:32<myk42>if i boot into the newer version from splash screen i cannot acces net - but i do have xorg.config on newer version
18:33<Black_Prince>What do you mean by xorg.config?
18:33<retrospectacus>myk42: that doesn't make sense... you can't have/not have a file based on what kernel is running
18:33<retrospectacus>well, that file, anyways
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18:34<myk42>i mean the /etc /X11/xorg.config file
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18:34<retrospectacus>yes. The running kernel does not affect whether that file exists
18:34<retrospectacus>unless you are looking at a different root partition I suppose
18:35<retrospectacus>it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf also
18:35<myk42>strange - well as it is, just checked again, i have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
18:36<myk42>i am pretty sure on the newer kernel it has that file however
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18:38<Black_Prince>myk42, remove that file ... It is not necesary for radeon driver. Also remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot
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18:41<myk42>Black_Prince: on this kernel i have:- " alsautils.rules libmtp7.rules rules.d links.conf udev.conf" in my /etc/udev/
18:41<retrospectacus>and in rules.d/ ?
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18:42<retrospectacus>and which is 'this' kernel?
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18:43<myk42>retrospectacus: ah yes a whole bunch more incliding 3 persistent rules
18:44<myk42>i will remove sugested files now
18:44<Black_Prince>myk42, wait ... first paste file I asked you to remove :)
18:44<myk42>ok
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18:48<myk42>Black_Prince: that URL is:- http:/pastebin.com/C5JHsYjW
18:50<Black_Prince>Well, that one looks fine ...
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18:50<Black_Prince>myk42, does grep -R e100 /etc/modprobe.d return anything
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18:52<myk42>yes
18:52<Black_Prince>myk42, what? paste it please ...
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18:53<myk42>typing should instal the first paste util however :
18:53<gsimmons>This may be one of the (older) NICs requiring firmware from userspace, since its removal from the e100 driver in Debian Linux 2.6.29+ kernel images (/msg dpkg e100).
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18:54<myk42>"/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf:# replaced by e100"
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18:54<Black_Prince>gsimmons, ah thanks ... he has exactly same card.
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18:54<Black_Prince>myk42, install firmware-linux-nonfree package. apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree
18:55<myk42>will do!!! :-)
18:55<knoppix_>Hy people
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18:55<retrospectacus>Guest10932: we cannot support knoppix here. /msg dpkg knoppix
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18:57<Guest10932>retrospectacus :ok
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19:01<myk42>Black_Prince: just installed linux-frimware-nonfree , np it did have a minor error msg "dpkg: warning:obsolete option '--print-instalation-architecture', please use '--print-architecture' instead. " btw i typed not pasted that
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19:02<Black_Prince>myk42, now reboot into 2.6.32 kernel and see if everything works as it should. And that's just a warning ...
19:03<myk42>ok thanks :-)
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19:27<myk42>Black_Prince: booted into new squeeze kernel after installing linux-firmware-nonfree, and although i am still in txt mode no X , i can access net in new kernel. I have no xorg.config file but here is the contents of my /etc/X11/ dir if it is of any use : http://pastebin.com/RMwzkwEg
19:28<Black_Prince>myk42, dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg
19:28<myk42>also my text changes from boot screen normal to a smaller font in new kernel (but not in old)
19:28<myk42>k
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19:29<Black_Prince>myk42, that is called kernel mode setting
19:29<MrFrood>myk42: that's the framebuffer
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19:29<Black_Prince>myk42, also cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
19:29<MrFrood>we talked earlier about
19:31<myk42>Yes thabks MrFrood you did explain earlier what the framebuffer was B)
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19:32<myk42>Here is result of dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg : http://pastebin.com/iX5Yx8En
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19:32<Black_Prince>myk42, dpkg -P xserver-xorg-video-ati
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19:34<myk42>here is the result of "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit" http://pastebin.com/hKgcrsWX
19:34<Black_Prince>ok, hold on with dpkg -P ...
19:36<myk42>ok just ran last command without patebinit and encountered a few errors
19:36<Black_Prince>myk42, I told you to hold on.
19:36<Black_Prince>myk42, How are you connected now?
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19:36<myk42>wired connection
19:37<Black_Prince>myk42, I mean are you in 2.6.32 kernel or?
19:37<myk42>the newer kernel which is the one youn said the other is 2.6.26 ?
19:38<Black_Prince>myk42, what does uname -a say?
19:39<myk42>yes i booted into the newer one whic now allows me net access- i was on the older one when we were speaking before (no framebuffer but net access)
19:39<Black_Prince>well, Xorg log looks fine. What happens when you type startx?
19:39<myk42>Linux dell 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 13 04:13:06 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
19:40<myk42>thats the ouput of "uname -a"
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19:40<Black_Prince>myk42, so are you now in X or ?
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19:41<myk42>no X
19:41<Black_Prince>myk42, and when you type startx what happens?
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19:46<mos>Black_Prince: your last question: "what happens when i issue 'startx'" i'm afrain the screen goes blank and the whole system freezes - cannot acces any tty's and have to reeboot
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19:48<myk42>Black_Prince: :) sorry that was me just now - system freezes on blank screen (black)
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19:48<Black_Prince>hmm, X is working as I see ...
19:48<Black_Prince>Do you have any desktop, any wm installed?
19:49<myk42>no wm installed
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19:49<myk42>i was plain gnome desktop
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19:52<Black_Prince>And gnome was working on 2.6.26 kernel previously?
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19:53<myk42>yes gnome was working np
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19:54<Black_Prince>myk42, with startx or?
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19:58<myk42>oh no nothing but a blank screen with startx ( it was working before i upgraded)
19:58<myk42>SHOULD STRAT
19:58<myk42>sorry butterfingers
19:59<MrFrood>myk42: before upgrade did you use startx or gdm?
19:59<Black_Prince>myk42, I meant how did you start X on 2.6.26 kernel? Also, did gnome work after upgrade with 2.6.26 kernel?
19:59<myk42>no no messing with x ever
19:59<Black_Prince>You had graphical login manager?
20:00<myk42>never used a desktop manager of any sort just plain gnome
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20:00<Black_Prince>Well, I ask you "How did you start gnome"
20:00<myk42>i only had default gnome desktop setup
20:00<retrospectacus>I think the answer is "it started itself" :)
20:01<Black_Prince>myk42, ok ... you don't understand me. ls -l /etc/rc2.d | grep gdm ; pidof Xorg | pastebinit
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20:02<myk42>lol i recall seeing it doing its stuff for me every time i pressed the on button - a miracle!
20:02<myk42>ok
20:04<myk42>result from: "ls -l /etc/rc2.d | grep gdm ; pidof Xorg | pastebinit" says i'm trying to send an empty document
20:05<Black_Prince>myk42, and pidof X ... what does it return? (no need to paste)
20:05<myk42>oic
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20:05<retrospectacus>n.b. that the first command (ls|grep) will not go to the pastebin...
20:05<myk42>output= "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2010-12-04 19:50 S30gdm -> ../init.d/gdm
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20:06<myk42>"
20:06<Black_Prince>myk42, so yeah ... DM is installed. But has some problems starting
20:06<kellar>ls -l /etc/rc2.d
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20:08<myk42>Kellar: for me? :)
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20:10<myk42>kellar: result of, ls -l /etc/rc2.d , is :- http://pastebin.com/AcQdVSFj
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20:11<MrFrood>gdm is listedd there
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20:15<myk42>when a 'startx' command is issued, should it start up immediately or in a matter of minutes maybe?
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20:16<blarson>myk42: it starts starting right away, depending on hardware etc. can take a while.
20:16<MrFrood>pretty much straight away
20:16<myk42>.. i mean my screen goes blank and the whole system is frozen - maybe i should give it a little longer to start up
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20:17<blarson>30 sec isn't too unusual on a slow system.
20:18<myk42>ok i will issue startx and give at least one minute - ok?
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20:19<MrFrood>it should take no longer than before the upgradde to squeeze
20:20<kellar>myk42: what about issuing "X :1 vt8", you should could a blank screen on vt8, but can you still switch tty?
20:20<kellar>should get rather
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20:21<myk42>kellar: thanks your suggestion first then
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20:34<knoppixttt>hola
20:34<toodida>hola
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20:35<knoppixttt>donde se encuentra
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20:35<toodida>does anyone using Ubuntu Cloud?
20:36<knoppixttt>no yet
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20:36<toodida>could someone refer me which group in this IRC chatting about "Ubuntu Cloud"?
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20:38<myk42>Black_Prince,MrFrood,retrospectacus,wols_: and whoever else tried helping me with my xserver: thank you!
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20:42<kellar>toodida: try asking in irc.freenode.net #ubuntu
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20:44<myk42>kellar: and thank you of course! Good idea :)
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20:46<kellar>myk42: be nice if you explained what the problem was. for posterity.
20:46<kellar>we're a hive-mind AI you see, your answer becomes part of the database.
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20:53<MrFrood>kellar: I don't think myk42 has fixed his X yet - but it is getting late
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20:53<MrFrood>almost 2:00am in myk42's time zone
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20:56<myk42>kellar: when i fix my X i will post the gory details for posterity incase some unfortunate finds the same small pothole on the road to freedom; don't worry! :-)
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21:10<aussa>hi, I'm trying to install debian squeeze from a usb stick, I tried this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#ftn.id447813 and this: http://linux.simple.be/debian/usb , when I tried to boot from it, it just shows me a white line flashing... I tried with the netinst and business version... any suggestion?
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21:11<MrFrood>!usbboot
21:11<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
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21:18<aussa>MrFrood, x86 only?
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21:23<MrFrood>aussa: I think people have tried it with ppc but I'm not sure
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21:57<amitz>is booting to gpt depends on bios suupport?
21:57<amitz>does
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22:14<bluewater>amitz: yes
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22:15<amitz>bummer -_-
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22:17<bluewater>amitz: If your system does not support UEFI, you can make a BIOS boot partition, as it replaces the sector of disk on a DOS partitioned drive that lives between the partition table and the first partition where grub is written directly.
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22:18<bluewater>amitz: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/
22:19<amitz>bluewater: oh, you mean the small partition you reserve near the beginninng?
22:19<amitz>anyway thanks, i'll loook into it.
22:20<bluewater>yep, make a boot partition say of 200M with code ef02 ,
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22:23<amitz>ah yes.
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22:49<lluvia>hello
22:49<lluvia>I installed another distro on my computer
22:50<lluvia>and I selected there that clock machine was in UTC
22:51<lluvia>now, in debian I have an incorrect date
22:51<lluvia>and I don't know how to solve this
22:52<lluvia>help
22:52<amitz>lluvia: are you dual booting with windoze by any chance?
22:52<lluvia>no
22:53<lluvia>that did never happened
22:53<amitz>see the date setting, distro can choose between using timezone vs utc.
22:54<amitz>of distros.
22:54<lluvia>where in debian?
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22:54<chealer>!tell lluvia about utc
22:56<lluvia>is the reboot of the computer equivalent to tun /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh?
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22:56<lluvia>run*
22:56<lluvia>/etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart
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23:01<lluvia>I restarted it
23:01<lluvia>http://pastebin.com/Rw2fpget
23:01<lluvia>it said that cannot access the hardware clock
23:01<lluvia>is that normal?
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23:03<amitz>are you running on non pc or vps?
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23:03<lluvia>it is a real installation on a mips64el machine
23:05<amitz>i do not know this mips thingie.
23:05<amitz>how it relates to (probably) the locking of hwclock, if any.
23:06<amitz>you can attack the problem on another distro.
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23:06<amitz>s/another/the other/
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23:07<lluvia>maybe if I set the hardware clock to non UTC in the other it get solved here
23:07<amitz>maybe
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23:20<MrFrood>!ntp
23:20<dpkg>The Network Time Protocol (NTP) is used to synchronize the clocks of computer systems over a network. "aptitude install ntp" for basic usage, use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. http://wiki.debian.org/NTP http://www.ntp.org/ See also <set time>, <pool.ntp>.
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23:33<polycon>hello is there anybody there
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23:34<polycon>help with beagleboard xm distribution required
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