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01:01<chl501>How can I detect if there is a man in the middle while surfing online? When using pidgin, I received a message saying the certificate seems not match what it claims. But I falsely clicked `accept it', then after a while my network seems become unstable (browsing website sometime unreachable). How can i know/ detect if something not right?
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01:02<jm_>chl501: for iceweasel tools add-ons like Convergence or Certificate Patrol can help, but the last one should be used first when you trust things
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01:03<dardevelin>hi everyone... Someone today told that its a god idea to use the debian sources list generator
01:03<dardevelin>so i wonder whats the recommend ? i want to upgrade from squeez for wheezy . so if someone can share i would appreciate that. Thanks in advance
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01:04<jm_>!stable->testing
01:04<chl501>thank you.
01:04<jm_>dpkg stable->testing
01:04<dpkg>First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, and change squeeze to wheezy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while.
01:04<ml|>dardevelin: have much debian experience? if not stay with stable
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01:06<dardevelin>ml|, Quite enough i would say. I have been with lmde, for about a year but now i want to move to the daddy :D
01:06<dardevelin>i mean i went deep on the system already, i had breakages. compiled the kernel once.
01:07<dardevelin>following a tutorial but did it. Have more less a perception of the folder structure and environment i would say. Also can handle drivers and apt-get apt-cache, debsums
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01:08<ml|>your choice, good luck; and instal apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs
01:08<dardevelin>ml|, thanks :D
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01:09<dardevelin>btw wheezy and testing are the same ? cause i've seen in the pass testing on the sources list
01:09<dardevelin>on lmde
01:10<jm_>they are the same now
01:10<dardevelin>ok nice then :D
01:11<ml|>yep
01:11<dardevelin>ty
01:11<dardevelin>just i tough like it would be something around this
01:11<dardevelin>if selected wheezy once that one become stable
01:11<dardevelin>it would be pretty much pointing to stable system
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01:12<dardevelin>while if it was testing it would automatically go to the next distro considered testing
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01:12<ml|>you can use either in your sources.list, but be careful on using testing; right
01:12<dardevelin>ml|, will do :D appreciate the concern
01:12<TuxGsmi>hi all
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01:13<ml|>also for for testing/sid there is #debian-next
01:15<dardevelin>thanks once again
01:15<dardevelin>i already join
01:15<dardevelin>have to keep that in mind :D
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01:54<wweasel>I could use a hand: could someone tell me in what file apt stores the "Automatically Installed" flags for each package?
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02:02<floomp>wweasel: /var/lib/apt/extended_states
02:02<wweasel>Thanks floomp!
02:02<floomp>np :)
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02:04<Sigvatr>I LOVE COCK
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02:22<rajanaibaho>hi all..
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03:06<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to turn off CPU Frequency Scaling on a running system with it enabled in the BIOS?
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03:08<entropy>hey all
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03:09<entropy>im a new convert to squeeze, but i lost asus keyboard backlit
03:09<entropy>all answers on google yield ubuntu results.. does anyone have any advice?
03:09<jm_>EmleyMoor: you can use performance governor
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03:10<jm_>EmleyMoor: or simply don't load cpufreq modules
03:10<EmleyMoor>jm_: What is performance governor?
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03:11<jm_>EmleyMoor: it's a specific cpufreq governor that always selects the highest possible frequency
03:12<EmleyMoor>OK, how do I "use" it?
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03:13<gsimmons>EmleyMoor: cpufreq-set -g performance
03:13<jm_>you can use cpufreq-set or echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor (scaling_available_governor shows available ones)
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03:19<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... done - but no difference made to the situation...
03:20<JOVE>hi
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03:22<JOVE>I am trying to make a deb file from some source code but before I can do that I need to create a nice Makefile (at least as far as I know). My current Makefile looks like http://pastebin.com/yMNqdZvN but when I write make the file also tries to install the program after compellation. I tough that it was the job of "make install"
03:22<JOVE>so the question is. What have I done wrong
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03:23<Gerowen>EmleyMoor: Sometimes I use sensors-applet for the Gnome panels to set frequency modes for my CPU.
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03:24<Gerowen>Wait nvm not sensors-applet, the CPU scaling applet comes with it I think
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03:25<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to set the default governor for a system?
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03:29<jm_>JOVE: because install is your first target
03:30<jm_>EmleyMoor: cpufrequtils has an init script which is configured via /etc/default/cpufrequtils, so the answer is yes
03:31<JOVE>so I should put install: in front of it?
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03:31<jm_>no, you should move the install target further down in the Makefile, i.e. after the "all" target
03:34<JOVE>tanks, gonna try it
03:35<jm_>no worries
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03:36<EmleyMoor>jm_: If I set "ENABLE=false" in there, what should the effect be?
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03:37<jm_>EmleyMoor: it will not change any settings
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03:40<Homer>eyy
03:41<Lenny>que pasaa xD
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03:41<Homer>jajaja
03:41<Homer>y yo ?
03:41<Guest14022>y to esta getne?
03:41<Guest14022>xD
03:41<Homer>ni ideaa
03:41<Guest14022>espera
03:41<Guest14022>aver si puedo hacer una sala o algo
03:42<JOVE>jm_: it seems to work as intended. But when I wanted to remove it again I did a rm -rf /usr/bin instead of a rm -rf /usr/bin/fasset
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03:42<jm_>JOVE: you mean it nuked out your /usr/bin?
03:42<JOVE>lucky me it is a virtual mashine
03:42<Homer>qien es jove ?
03:42<JOVE>yes
03:42<Homer>jajaja
03:43<jm_>JOVE: ahh you said "I did" - so not makefile: why did you do it?
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03:44<JOVE>I wanted to remove the program that I just install eg rm -rf /usr/bin/fasset instead of rm -rf /usr/bin/
03:44<Homer>ok ok
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03:44<JOVE>it was a error 40
03:45<Zaba>is /usr/bin/fasset a single file? Then you don't need -rf
03:45<jm_>right I recommend to not use -f automatically
03:45<Homer>de you speak spanish ?
03:45<Jonan>HOMEER
03:45<Homer>una biiiirra
03:45<Zaba>don't use -r when removing single files, and don't use -f unless you must
03:45<Jonan>jaja
03:45<Jonan>espera
03:45<Jonan>voy a buscar una de estas
03:45<Jonan>sin gente
03:45<Homer>los otros siguen a su bola
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03:46<JOVE>zabra. Yes it was a single file. and -rf just sits to natural in my fingers when typeing rm
03:46<Homer>qiyo me cago en todo
03:46<Homer>speak spanish
03:46<EmleyMoor>!es
03:46<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
03:47<Homer>da igual
03:47<Homer>es mucha tarea
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03:47<Homer>me aguantare
03:47<Homer>jaaja
03:48<Homer>oye ustedes no sabreis
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03:48<Homer>como poder poner debian en una actualizacion anterior
03:48<Homer>esq se me ha actualizado
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03:48<Homer>y se me ha borrado el paquete synaptic
03:48<Homer>y mas cosas
03:49<Homer>hola ?
03:49<strzelczykw>ff
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03:49<Homer>ff qe ?
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03:50<EmleyMoor>Homer: Please, if you need help in Spanish, join a Spanish-speaking channel as dpkg told you
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03:51<Homer>decime como se cambia
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03:59<EmleyMoor>If anything, my VMs are worse now!
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04:02<EmleyMoor>How do I prevent the loading of the cpufreq modules altogether?
04:02<ayaka>how to shutdown a chroot(only chroot not host)?
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04:06<EmleyMoor>ayaka: exit ?
04:06<jm_>I don't think cpufreq modules are loaded automatically - there are some discussions how to achieve it, but it's not available yet
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04:07<EmleyMoor>jm_: OK, how do I remove the "not by my request" loading of them?
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04:08<gsimmons>EmleyMoor: Another init script is used to load the cpufreq modules. Set ENABLE="false" in /etc/default/loadcpufreq to prevent, or just purge the cpufrequtils package.
04:08<ayaka>EmleyMoor, ok,I wikk try
04:08<jm_>EmleyMoor: gsimmons beat me to it
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04:08<EmleyMoor>gsimmons: Thanks - not sure it will actually get me anywhere this time but noted
04:08<ayaka>but all the daemond in chroot will stop at the same time?
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04:09<jm_>ayaka: no, you will have to stop/kill processes first or you won't be able to umount things in chroot
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04:20<ayaka>jm_, thank you
04:21<jm_>ayaka: no worries
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04:26<ayaka>jm_, but I can't stop drbl when I exit chroot
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04:27<jm_>ayaka: what is drbl?
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04:41<morteza>hi
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04:47<JOVE>hi again
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04:51<JOVE>I have been trying to mage a debian package for Fasset and the make file looks like http://pastebin.com/VHBwTUBC. I have been running dh_make in a folder called fasset-2.3.2 where a packaged version of fasset lies at ../fasset-2.3.2.tar.gz . Then I have run dpkg-buildpackage but now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/6cAiArjA Any idear what I have done wrong?
04:51<babilen>!mentors
04:51<dpkg>hmm... mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org.
04:52<EmleyMoor>Is there any known reason why kvm-qemu is performing terribly on squeeze?
04:52<jm_>JOVE: make it report errors in english but looking at this I'd say your makefile doesn't handle $DESTDIR stuff
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04:53<JOVE>there is no $DESTDIR in my Makefile
04:53<JOVE>gonna goole it
04:54<EmleyMoor>I get a lot of soft lockups of the VM's CPU
04:54<jm_>look at what's in debian/rules for install
04:55<JOVE>jm_: debian/rules should be based on the Makefile or is it me who has (again) missunderstood something?
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04:56<jm_>JOVE: well they should have comaptible install targets
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04:57<JOVE>looks something is wrong with it http://pastebin.com/NnydBtq4
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04:57<JOVE>gonna look closer at it
04:58<jm_>looks pretty standard for debhelper
04:58<babilen>JOVE: That debian/rules file could be perfectly fine (except for the useless commented templates) -- Your Makefile uses a hardcoded prefix, which is most likely the problem. But please note that #debian-mentors is the right channel for packaging related questions.
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04:59<JOVE>ok I will change channel
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04:59<JOVE>tnaks for you time
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05:19<EmleyMoor>Is there any way I can fsck the filesystems in qemu images from the host?
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05:28<Wakslob>Greetings
05:29<Wakslob>Can someone help me better understand what a kexts is?
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05:40<__Alex_>Does anyone know, is there a utility, that Zeroes out the free space on my disk? I wanna make sure things i deleted can't be recovered.
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05:42<koollman>__Alex_: write zero in a file until disk is almost full then delete it
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05:43<__Alex_>koollman: Thank you
05:44<babilen>__Alex_: Many, a manual approach comprises using something like "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX" from a live CD. You might furthermore want to look into tools such as secure-delete or dcfldd
05:44<floomp>babilen: won't that zero the entire partition instead of just free space?
05:44<__Alex_>I don't want to delete my files, i want to delete the free space
05:44<__Alex_>I'm trying cat /dev/urandom>file.bin
05:45<babilen>__Alex_: Ah, ok. Then *do not* use that dd command. secure-delete is most likely what you are looking for.
05:45*babilen gets another coffee
05:46<__Alex_>Is cat /dev/urandom>file.bin
05:46<__Alex_>Dangerous?
05:46<Black_Prince>No, but it takes too long ...
05:46<Black_Prince>But still, it is secure ...
05:47<__Alex_>I only have 115Gigs of free space, so shouldn't take so long
05:48<__Alex_>(The whole disk is 145G)
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05:48<babilen>__Alex_: Handy utilities to securly delete files are shred or wipe fwiw -- And filling 115G with random data *will* take time.
05:49<__Alex_>Will, But i have time to waste, thankfully.
05:49<Black_Prince>If you have day or two of spare time then go ahead.
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05:51<babilen>__Alex_: And you should be aware that it is already very hard to restore deleted files. What kind of data is that and who do you feel threatened by?
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06:08<cybersphinx_>__Alex_: Unless you fear someone stealing the drive and analysing it in a lab /dev/zero is about as good as /dev/urandom and faster.
06:09<Black_Prince>If you have null device it would do it even better ...
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06:12<__Alex_>Already got 60Gigz of Randomness
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06:59<EmleyMoor>Is there any IM software in Debian that supports a webcam on a publicly-accessible IM system?
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07:00<petemc>gmail video plugin works
07:01<babilen>pidgin supports it as well ... You might also like ekiga
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07:02<EmleyMoor>ekiga I've got - the only trouble is, how do I get someone on the other side of the world connected up?
07:02<babilen>EmleyMoor: Only for XMPP though. But this should enable you to video/voice chat with xmpp/google talk users.
07:02<babilen>(pidgin that is)
07:02<EmleyMoor>babilen: That's not a bad idea...
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07:03<sjunaz>Hello :)
07:04<sjunaz>I was wondering if it is possible to create a "shortcut" on my proftpd server. Say user x logs in, and apart from what's in his default/home directory, a "shortcut" to another directory is also there (although it doesn't actually exist in the directory itself, just on the FTP)
07:04<sjunaz>Is this possible?
07:04<EmleyMoor>babilen: I will look further into pidgin
07:05<babilen>EmleyMoor: Good luck!
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07:05<EmleyMoor>The person I want to communicate with has only Yahoo, AIM and Skype (yuck!)
07:06<sjunaz>Basically so that when user x logs in on the FTP, he can download files from several directories, and upload to a certain directory not in his home dir.
07:07<babilen>sjunaz: We typically frown upon FTP as there are better alternatives. (sftp, scp, ..) -- If you want to provide a restricted environment you might want to look into scponly. /me hasn't used FTP in *ages* so I am not sure if what you want to achieve is possible. There is, however, a #proftp channel on irc.freenode.net
07:07<sjunaz>yes sorry I use sftp actually =)
07:08<sjunaz>SFTP over SSH =)
07:08<babilen>good
07:08<sjunaz>so I would like a home dir with shortcuts to the directories the user accesses frequently
07:08<sjunaz>is that possible?
07:08<sjunaz>I have no idea if there is a technical term
07:09<sjunaz>I'm quite new to Debian (or linux as a whole)
07:09<jm_>symlink
07:09<babilen>I am still not sure if what you are after is possible without actually changing anything in the underlying filesystem. But that does by no means imply that this is indeed not possible.
07:09<sjunaz>ok.
07:09<babilen>A symlink is what comes to mind, but that would be "implemented" by changing the underlying filesystem that is served, not just virtually by the daemon.
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07:10<babilen>In short: you would just create a symbolic link (man ln) from src → dst
07:10<sjunaz>as long as it makes no difference for the user
07:10<sjunaz>ok
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07:11<babilen>I'd still recommend to look into scponly btw
07:11<babilen>,info scponly
07:11<judd>Package scponly (utils, optional) in squeeze/i386: Restricts the commands available to scp- and sftp-users. Version: 4.8-4.1; Size: 43.6k; Installed: 176k; Homepage: http://sublimation.org/scponly/
07:11<sjunaz>scponly, ok
07:11<sjunaz>will it help me achieve the same thing?=)
07:11<sjunaz>I only have two users here, and I trust them both
07:13<babilen>Ok, in that case it is not really necessary. It essentially allows you to restrict access to filesystem/commands which is a good idea if you are dealing with users you don't necessarily trust.
07:14<sjunaz>ok.
07:14<sjunaz>so symlink is my best bet here?
07:16<sjunaz>Ideally what I want is two user accounts. they can log in to their shell via ssh, and connect to the sftp server, with the same logins as for the shell.
07:17<babilen>It give you exactly this shortcut somewher else
07:17<sjunaz>they each have their home directories for personal stuff, but can also access stuff in shared directories (ftp)
07:18<sjunaz>and also upload stuff to the directories where apache reads from. the server hosts two sites.
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07:29<bony>I installed gnome 3 long back from experimental and now when i want to change my language to another language at gdm3 I can see that option
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07:29<bony>how to get that option?
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07:49<wompa>bony, I guess you first have to install another language package first.
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07:54<babilen>bony: Can you only pick a single language? Are the respective locales enables? (dpkg-reconfigure locales)
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07:57<querier1>Hi there ! How to make a live dvd from the running debian? tried "bootcdwrite" boot did not work out.
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08:26<jee>hello
08:26<querier>hello
08:27<abrotman>querier: not sure there's an alternative .. what didn't work ?
08:28<jee>i've got a second computer, very old, which has a DWL-650+ wi fi card
08:29<querier>abrotman: well, it booted, but through errors like "failed to mount local filesystem". when the login panel comes up also does an error message "like energy mang. not properly installed". when loggin in it just hangs.
08:29<jee>so i used acx100 and recompiled the kernel
08:29<jee>but it seems not changing
08:31<jee>the dmesg pastebin:
08:31<jee>http://pastebin.com/CYu71rv7
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08:32<jee>does anyone get an idea for how to fix it?
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08:36<jm_>jee: didn't it tell you? firmware image 'tiacx111' was not provided.
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08:37<jee>but it's acx100
08:37<jee>that i want to install
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08:38<Mephisto>hello
08:38<jee>ok, i downloaded acx100 from sourcefoge
08:38<Mephisto>i have an annoying prob here.... how do i actually switch from gnome to any other desktops like lxde, kde and so
08:39<jm_>the driver you are using wants tiacx111* image
08:39<jee>so i have to get it?
08:39<Mephisto>i mean.. i know how to install, but i dunno how to substitute, gnome seems to be stuck persistently and lxde (currently attempted to be installed) can only start ones but doesn't really take over Gnome.
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08:40<jm_>well it looks like you do yes
08:40<jm_>Mephisto: most display managers let you choose another session at login time
08:40<Mephisto>hmm...
08:41<Mephisto>but my login is the same
08:41<Mephisto>in only asks for login and password
08:41<Mephisto>i didn't see any other options there.
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08:41<jm_>which DM is it?
08:41<Mephisto>erm...
08:41<Mephisto>gdm i think..
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08:42<Mephisto>or xdm...
08:42<Mephisto>can't quite remember actually.. how can i check?
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08:42<Mephisto>anyways, if it doesn't support it then it doesn't matter, i suppose i should just install suitable dm
08:43<Mephisto>it's xdm
08:43<Mephisto>http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail-with-version//xdm/1:1.1.8-5
08:43<Mephisto>like this one
08:43<Mephisto>exactly the same
08:44<jm_>gdm has that options
08:44<Mephisto>hm..
08:44<Mephisto>so should i switch to gdm?
08:44<jm_>that's up to you
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08:44<jm_>alternatively, if your DM allow you to start whatever you want vi ~/.xsession or a similar file that is OK too I suppose
08:44<Mephisto>well, it's not really up to me, i just don't know. What i want is to play a bit with desktops to see which one of them is more comfortable to me, so it's not a matter of "up to you" thing
08:45<Mephisto>i dunno if it does allow me that.. i'm new to Debian and linux in general..
08:45<jm_>xdm should honour ~/.xsession
08:46<jm_>for quick testing startx also always works
08:46<Mephisto>ok, let's see
08:46<Mephisto>Fatal server error:
08:46<Mephisto>Server is already active for display 0
08:46<Mephisto> If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
08:46<Mephisto> and start again.
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08:47<Mephisto>fatal server error: server is already active for display 0
08:48<jm_>you want startx ... -- :1
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08:51<Mephisto>i tried
08:51<jee>ok, i understand now, acx100 is driver and acx111 is firmware
08:52<Mephisto>just tell me the whole line, will ya...
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08:53<jm_>just configure it in ~/.xsession and "startx -- :1" will do, but I have to run now
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08:54<Mephisto>ok...
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08:54<abrotman>querier: hrm .. that sounds like less than fun .. did you read the docs, etc?
08:55<Bushmills>Mephisto: start an xterm, no desktop. then start desktops and wms from that xterm
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08:57<querier>abrotman: I did not found any usful information. lastly im trying to use "lb config --bootstrap copy", but I dont know what to do with the result("auto" and "config" folder).
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09:20<querier>how to use lb config and lb build properly?
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09:21<Mephisto>alright, i found .xsession, but it's actually .xsession-error
09:21<Mephisto>what's up with that?
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09:23<lamby_>I'm guessing, though I'm by no means an expert, that .xsession and .xsession-error are DIFFERENT files
09:23<weasel>they are.
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09:24<Mephisto>well yeah, i kinda understood it myself
09:24<Mephisto>if so, then i don't really have no .xsession
09:25<Mephisto>i think i will just install gdm3...
09:25<Mephisto>maybe that helps...
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09:26<weasel>you don't need an .xsession if you're happy with the default. making an .xsession have having your display manager run it for you allows great flexibility on what you want to have running in your x session however.
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09:26<Mephisto>i need lxde, that's the thing
09:27<Mephisto>so as far as i'm concerned XDM (being default DM) does not have no session menu at login screen or something
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09:29<Mephisto>i made it to lxde
09:29<Mephisto>somehow..
09:29<Mephisto>update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
09:29<Mephisto>i used this thing
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09:39<mbruins>15:38 <dpkg> Aptitude is more memory intensive and slower than <apt-get>, the <ncurses> interface is always loaded regardless of being used or not.
09:39<mbruins>is this true of a quote?
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09:40<mbruins>im not sure because of the help output :)
09:40<mbruins>15:30 <dpkg> I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"
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09:40<mbruins>s/of/and/or//
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09:51<mbruins>nevermind my prolly vague question. i figured it out with dpkg(irc bot) :)
09:51<rpetre>!beer dpkg
09:51*dpkg pours a pint of Green Flash IPA for dpkg
09:51*mbruins laughs
09:51<themill>mbruins: the first half can be true; the second half is irrelevant on most systems
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09:52<mbruins>themill: thanks after reading some mans and google hits about aptitude vs apt i agree :)
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09:53<mbruins>would use apt-get for dist-upgrades though.. but thats just a personal favor :)
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09:53<themill>the speed hit in aptitude being slightly slower than apt-get is normally worth it for the occasions when apt-get just chokes and you spend ages trying to work out why, only to find that aptitude just does the right thing immediately
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09:58<mbruins>themill: do you have a vps for irc? im not sure what to do yet
09:58*themill points towards #debian-offtopic
09:59<mbruins>sorry ;)
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10:22<Knorrie>Can I safely use ext4 on a system running the 2.6.32 kernel from stable, but with a Lenny userland (which will be upgraded afterwards)?
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10:24<bony>babilen, i can't even pick a single language. all the locales are enables and i ran dpkg-reconfigure locale and selected my locale.
10:24<Knorrie>background of the question: I want to upgrade Xen domU's from lenny to squeeze by first moving them to a squeeze dom0, starting them with the 2.6.32-xen-amd64 kernel, and after that, upgrade
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10:25<ml|>dpkg: ext4
10:25<dpkg>ext4 (fourth extended filesystem) supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents, available since Linux 2.6.28. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. ext4 is not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121) and not the default filesystem in Squeeze (Debian bug #603084). http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 and #linuxfs on irc.oftc.net.
10:25<babilen>bony: You have to select your user first -- You'll then be offered to choose between sessions and languages IIRC
10:25<bony>babilen, I was going through this blog http://blogs.gnome.org/woody/ and found that the settings are in /etc/gdm3 etc
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10:26<querier>"Release file expired" (from cdn.debian.net) what can I do ?
10:26<bony>babilen, well when i select the user i get to choose only the desktop environment. In my case it's gnome, gnome fallback and kde
10:26<bony>nothing else is shown for selection
10:26<babilen>bony: That setting is per-user, so you have to select your user first.
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10:26<babilen>bony: is that so? Which gdm3 version is this? Which Debian release are you using?
10:27<bony>I am using sid and the gdm3 version is 3.0.4-3
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10:28<babilen>I am almost sure that you can choose between different languages.
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10:29<bony>Few months back when gnome3 was not in unstable but in experimental i followed a blog in which it was mentioned to create file in /etc/apt/preferances.d/gnome that has the list of packages from experimental for gnome 3 i followed that method and got gnome 3. now that gnome 3 is in unstable i don't need that list anymore
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10:29<bony>babilen, well i will see if i can get a screen shot for you
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10:31<bony>babilen, i took the screenshots with the print screen button on the keyboard do you know were will these images be stored?
10:31<babilen>nfc
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10:32<xChatGnome>while trying to upgrade to sid, synaptic says that i have 20 broken packages. what should i do?
10:33<themill>run stable instead. Didn't we cover this yesterday?
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10:34<xChatGnome>yes, but..
10:34<xChatGnome>:D
10:34<xChatGnome>themill: you are always here?
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10:38<xChatGnome>themill: i am not going to give up so quickly. :) see you in a while, after getting in to sid :/
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10:59<bony>babilen, I got the screenshot of my gdm login screen. http://static.inky.ws/image/741/image.jpg
10:59<querier>lb build fails on trying to Deconfigure /etc/debian/chroot . what to do?
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11:02<bony>querier, do you get this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636217
11:03<v>how can I change resolution in sqeeze? There is no xorg.conf
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11:04<querier>bony: That bug seems to be occuring after the iso has been made, but I dont get as so far. the building process itself gets stuck.
11:05<bony>querier, well are you building a fresh instance or are you building on a previous trial?
11:06<querier>bony: previous trial. shall I delete it all and redo ?
11:07<bony>querier, no
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11:08<bony>querier, just give the command lb clean and then start lb build. Hope that will fix the problem. If your host system is sid then you should know that live build has been updated from 3.0~a21-1 to 3.0~a37-1
11:08<bony>check the version of live build. apt-cache show live-build
11:09<bony>babilen, can you help me?
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11:12<querier>bony : "lb -v
11:12<querier>live-build, version 2.0.12-1 " very old.
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11:15<coolzero_>salut tous le monde
11:15<antelope>Does anyone know if I can install packages from sid repository in ubuntu 10.04?
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11:16<themill>antelope: that's unlikely to be a good plan. As the ubuntu people in #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net how best to achieve what you are wanting.
11:17<antelope>ah, ok thanks
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11:24<bony>querier, did you try to clean and rebuild?
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11:24<bony>themill, hi
11:25<bony>themill, I guess you don't remember me. We had a chat few years back on some issues configuring debian
11:25<querier>bony: still doing it. but ive forgotten to run "lb config --bootstrap copy".
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11:25<bony>themill, I still remember how patiently you were answering me.
11:26<bony>querier, Its ok, you only have to run lb config for the first time
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11:26<querier>bony: I thought clean would delete all that as well.
11:27<guler>Hello, any idea on gcc 4.6.1 options to have compatibility with 4.5.1 ?
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11:27<bony>querier, no. clean will only clean chroot, binary, cached files etc.
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11:28<themill>bony: :) glad to have been of assistance.
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11:29*bony felling like coming back to home after reaching the debian channel.
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11:32<bony>I am off
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11:33<querier>bony thanks anyway
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11:46<steinex>Am I supposed to really enter my root-password if update-notifier says there are updates available? (squeeze). I tought python-aptdaemon / aptd would take care via PolicyKit/DBUS of that?
11:46<elirhab>hallo..:D
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11:47<elirhab>i have a problem with my ubuntu
11:47<kop>!tell elirhab about ubuntu
11:47<elirhab>can you help me ?
11:47<towo`>no
11:47<towo`>wrong channel
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12:22<chealer>hi. is somebody using mcelog on testing? and if so, do you have something in /var/log/mcelog ? mine has stuff but apparently stopped being written to
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12:32<sebastian_>Hello, people. :)
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12:54<kjanisz>hi
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12:54<jcesar>hello
12:54<kjanisz>i'm having problems with apache 2.2 and php 4.4.9 on squeeze, maybe you experienced similiar problems
12:55<kjanisz>generally mnost thing works correctly
12:55<themill>umm... php4 isn't in squeeze at all
12:55<kjanisz>but when I use any PHP function, that needs to connect to remote host, apache dies with segfault
12:55<themill>(and hasn't received any security support for how many years now?)
12:55<kjanisz>php4 was compiled from sources
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12:56<kjanisz>I know, but I need php4 :(
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12:56<themill>if the things you're trying to run haven't yet been updated for php5, then you probably also don't want to be running them as they're clearly unmaintained
12:56<kjanisz>this segfaults happen when there is many (>2000) virtual hosts in apache
12:57<kjanisz>when I left only one virtual host, functions work correctly
12:57<abarrios>Where can I download Debian 5 or older versions?
12:57<themill>dpkg: tell abarrios about install lenny
12:57<kjanisz>I have had similiar problem on other server and managed to resolve it, but now I don't remeber how :(
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12:58<kjanisz>several pages suggested, that this can be problem with open file limit, but I have ulimit -n 65535 in apache2 starting script
12:58<babilen>kjanisz: There might be an alternative to your PHP application that is well maintained. What does it do and do you have a link to its website?
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12:59<babilen>kjanisz: Is this a general problem with apache or does this only happen with your PHP4 installation and the application in question?
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12:59<kjanisz>babilen: this is hosting server and customers don't want to migrate to PHP5 - it is their choice and their risk
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13:00<kjanisz>this is problem happen only when PHP is used
13:00<babilen>ack
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13:00<jcesar>hello abarrios
13:00*babilen blames php4 then -- you might get help in ##php on irc.freenode.net, but I guess that they will tell you the same: Use PHP5!
13:01<themill>kjanisz: yeah, you're going to have a lot of trouble getting anyone to care about this problem
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13:01<kjanisz>one function is enough in script: fsockopen($host, $port) and apache dies
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13:01<babilen>kjanisz: I know that this might not be the answer your customers expect though, but I doubt that you will find much help in fixing this issue if you can not reproduce it in recent versions.
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13:02<daemonkeeper>Maybe I missed something oder but where is linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-dbg (http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/linux-2.6)?
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13:03<kjanisz>babilen: im almost sure that this may be problem of open file descriptors - each virtual host has it's own log file and when I deleted all virtual hosts from apache config, problem disappeared
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13:03<kjanisz>and question is if setting ulimit -n 65535 is enough, or there are other places where I can change it
13:04<kjanisz>and as you know, fsockopen opens another file descriptor
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13:06<kjanisz>or maybe there are some settings which prevents apache/apache modules from creating network connections
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13:08<babilen>daemonkeeper: Apparently not available :-/ -- /me recommends #d-kernel
13:08<daemonkeeper>Will ask, yes.
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13:29<dns>hi
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13:37<kzziii3l>hay alguien?
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13:37<amphi>!es
13:37<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:12<iman>hi, when I want to connect to freenode I get this message, you think what is the problem ? http://dpaste.com/637530/
14:14<boba>Are you able to resolve other hostnames?
14:14<bartm>iman, irc.freenode.net matches multiple addresses. maybe something's wrong with one of them
14:14<mbr>iman: try to connect to one of the servers http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
14:14<iman>i can lookup in debian serves
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14:16<iman>wowww, I can't see irc.freenoce.net in browser : Server not found
14:16<iman>are you in freenode now ?
14:16<iman>right now
14:16<bartm>iman, irc.freenoce.net is probably not spelled correctly
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14:21<inkbottle>With a Wacom tablet I have a "conflict" between Pad and Stylus. When I plug the device, if i use the Pad scroll-ring, it work. But as soon as I use the Stylus, the scroll-ring stop working, and remain so.
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14:23<inkbottle>And it's silent with xev
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14:38<eyeofthetiger>Hey, I have a question about Debian on a PowerMac G5.
14:38<eyeofthetiger>Where is the best place to ask?
14:39<amphi>eyeofthetiger: there's a #debian-ppc channel, I believe
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14:39<amphi>I installed debian on an ibook once, a good while ago, but I doubt I remember anything of use
14:40<bim_ir>eyeofthetiger: which question?
14:40<bim_ir>amphi: is there #debian-x86 channel too? ;)
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14:41<bartm>eyeofthetiger, you could simply try to ask the (real) question here
14:41<eyeofthetiger>amphi: Thanks. bim_ir: I'm having an issue with my video card. The screen blanks every time I boot it up; I see several messages about drm and nouveau right before it does. I do not have X installed.
14:41<bim_ir>I like Debian for portability, no other distro can say that it is so portable as Debian
14:42<bim_ir>eyeofthetiger: try to add "video=ofonly" to kernel options in yaboot line
14:42<amphi>eyeofthetiger: I wonder if that's to do with kernel mode switching - perhaps try disabling kms on the kernel commmand line
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14:42<eyeofthetiger>The reason I don't have X installed is that I thought that that might be the problem so I did a clean install without it.
14:42<eyeofthetiger>"video=ofonly" has no effect.
14:42<bim_ir>eyeofthetiger: then try "debug"
14:42<eyeofthetiger>Okay, hang on...
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14:43<amphi>eyeofthetiger: nomodeset on the kernel command line will disable kms - might be worth a try
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14:44<eyeofthetiger>Disabling kms did the trick. I get a prompt now!
14:44<bim_ir>wow, cool
14:44<eyeofthetiger>I'm only good with linux *after* it boots... ^^
14:44<bim_ir>eyeofthetiger: which kernel version is that?
14:45<bim_ir>uname -r
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14:45<eyeofthetiger>Kernel version is 2.6.32-5-powerpc64.
14:45<eyeofthetiger>I might try to update...
14:45<bim_ir>oh, very old one :)
14:45<eyeofthetiger>Yeah, it's the stock CD.
14:45<bim_ir>3.0.3-libre works prefectly for me
14:45<amphi>!rejoice
14:45<dpkg>...and the peasants rejoiced.
14:46<bim_ir>!cry
14:46*dpkg sulks quietly
14:46<bim_ir>;)
14:46<amphi>bastard
14:47<eyeofthetiger>Are there backports of newer kernels for stable or do I need to jump to wheezy? I don't mind wheezy; that's what I was going to ultimately do anyway.
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14:48<bim_ir>eyeofthetiger: on ppc970, it's okay to build your own, using make-kpkg
14:49<bim_ir>it would take ~2 hours max for your machine
14:49<ompaul>,kernels
14:49<judd>Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-2-686-pae (3.0.0-5); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-38); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27)
14:50<amphi>eyeofthetiger: why do you need a newer kernel?
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14:51<eyeofthetiger>For the sake of having the newest :)
14:52<Qazjap11>Does Debian has any group caching? I've added myself to 'sudo' group with adduser, and double checked the /etc/group file, but It doesn't appear when I type 'groups' command in user, nor sudo command works (and the 'sudo' group is in the /etc/sudoers). Thanks
14:52<ompaul>eyeofthetiger: that is no reason
14:52<ompaul>!tell eyeofthetiger about sns
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14:53<valdyn>Qazjap11: you need to login for group changes to take effect
14:53<eyeofthetiger>hehe, I know.
14:53<Qazjap11>Is it something special for Debian? I didn't have to do it in Arch and other distros as far as I remember?
14:53<Qazjap11>unique*
14:53<valdyn>Qazjap11: its the same in any distro
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14:54<eyeofthetiger>You ppl probably think I'm a complete noob by now...
14:54<Qazjap11>OK thanks
14:54<hiroshima>hi @ all
14:54<Haze>Hey
14:54<amphi>!ppl
14:54<dpkg>I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many?
14:55<valdyn>eyeofthetiger: your questions give us that impression
14:55<hiroshima>I wanna update my kde... what do I have to add to the sources.list.d so that works automatically by upgrading my system?
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14:56<mbr>hiroshima: what are you trying to do exactly?
14:56<eyeofthetiger>hiroshima: Are you running Debian 6?
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14:58<hiroshima>on the one hand side, I wanna install the kde 4.7.x and on the other hand I wanna upgrade the okular to version 0.13. But actually I only wanna upgrade the kde as I read that the new okular should be included into the new kde version. I have an aptosid system running.
14:58<ompaul>hiroshima: so you should be in #aptosid
14:58<ompaul>hiroshima: three channels down on the left
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14:59<amphi>heh
14:59<mbr>evil never heard of that one before :)
14:59<hiroshima>ah, ok! it will be differenced! sorry!
15:00<eyeofthetiger>oh, and valdyn: I'm actually pretty decent at Linux, I just hate mucking with graphics.
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15:02<eyeofthetiger>and yaboot
15:03<bim_ir>eyeofthetiger: yaboot is great
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15:03<eyeofthetiger>It's foreign.
15:03<eyeofthetiger>...to me.
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15:04<bim_ir>eyeofthetiger: GRUB2 can't boot power mac currently
15:04<bim_ir>there's no other choice
15:04<eyeofthetiger>I know it.
15:04<eyeofthetiger>I'm just gonna have to get used to it.
15:04<bim_ir>and there's yaboot 1.3.16 released a day or two ago
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15:09<bim_ir>ah, it's even 1.3.17, sorry
15:10<bim_ir>released on Oct 18, 2011
15:10<bim_ir>SNSS vs ASSS :)
15:12<eyeofthetiger>That's the first release that that project has had in a while.
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15:14<bim_ir>only one almost-active developer, and he had almost lost any motivation to continue
15:14<bim_ir>so no surprise
15:14<bim_ir>(by the secret, guys from IBM pushed him :)
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15:41<horst493>hey
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15:43<horst493>horst
15:44<Haze>Hey horst
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15:45<horst493>hey Haze
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15:45<machand500>wie kann ich einen cronjob für eine php datei definieren????
15:45<boba>!de
15:45<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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15:46<clarity>.webmaster.com
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16:17<kristina>Hey, I really need some help. I hada document open in openoffice writer and the power went out. I restarted my computer and tried to recover the document, but it says "recovery failed". is there any possible way I can recover it?
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16:21<carlitoss>hi 2 all!
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16:31<weedeater64>kristina: I don't recall the name of package, but there is a utility too recover files, hang on , don't do anything on that computer.
16:32<kristina>weedeater64: okay, thanks.
16:33<weedeater64>magicrescue
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16:34<kristina>okay, thanks. I'll try that now and hopefully it'll work
16:35<weedeater64>See if you can find a manpage for it online, from another computer.
16:35<weedeater64>You can search for specific file types.
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16:36<eyeofthetiger>manpage: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/magicrescue.1.html
16:36<eyeofthetiger>It's from ubuntu's manuals but should work.
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16:37<eyeofthetiger>And weedeater, wouldn't it help if kristina saved it to someplace other than the disk in question?
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16:40<weedeater64>I don't know, I shouldn't think so.
16:40<weedeater64>Couldn't hurt though, I guess.
16:40<eyeofthetiger>To avoid overwriting those sectors, I mean.
16:40<weedeater64>Makes sense.
16:41<eyeofthetiger>Although if the thing rebooted since the loss, it's probably going to already have eaten the sectors if it was going to.
16:41<kristina>wait guys, can you give me a step-by-step because I'm really new to linux. I installed magicrescue through the terminal.
16:41<weedeater64>I hope you don't have gobs of files of that type, I know that utility will recover all of them and give them names like 0000001.type
16:42<eyeofthetiger>Well, that alone moves you out of the n00b category ;).
16:42<kristina>barely haha
16:42<weedeater64>Have you another computer ?
16:43<kristina>my bro does. let me see if i can convince him to let me use it. one sec
16:43<weedeater64>Use it to read the manpage eyeofthetiger linked.
16:43<kristina>blah, he's not letting me :/
16:43<weedeater64>Tell him I said
16:44<eyeofthetiger>Tell him I said too
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16:44<kristina>lol, if I knew it would help, i would XD
16:44<weedeater64>Tell him don't make me come over there.
16:44<eyeofthetiger>And give me his IP if he doesn't :)
16:44<kristina>lmao
16:44<kristina>will i risk overwriting it if I do it on here?
16:45<weedeater64>got a usb flash drive ?
16:45<eyeofthetiger>Well, at any rate, you need to stick a flash drive in.
16:45<weedeater64>wget the page eyeofthetiger linked to the flash drive, and read it.
16:45<eyeofthetiger>Mount it, and figure out where it is mounted at (should be "/media/something")
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16:46<eyeofthetiger>weedeater64: using the computer at all will probably make it write to the drive.
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16:48<kristina>wait, so should I link the page to the flash drive or no?
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16:48<eyeofthetiger>I wouldn't mess with it at all.
16:49<eyeofthetiger>How badly do you need that text? Would it be easier to retype it or to spend a while digging through a bunch of bits of files?
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16:50<kristina>I spent the past 2 days researching and writing a paper that's due on Friday. I would really love if I could somehow recover it.
16:50<eyeofthetiger>oooh.
16:51<kristina>It's weird though, cuz I saved it multiple times before the power went out, so I would assume it would have recovered at least SOME of it
16:51<eyeofthetiger>And it isn't saved anywhere?
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16:51<eyeofthetiger>ah, ninja'd
16:51<eyeofthetiger>You don't have an old copy of it?
16:51<kristina>it's saved but when I try to open it with openoffice, it opens a page and tries to recover it, but says "recovery failed"
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16:52<eyeofthetiger>Ohhhh! Okay. Much better.
16:52<eyeofthetiger>Open that file with mousepad and see if it looks like total gibberish.
16:52<kristina>and I found a hidden file of it called ".~lock.irish renaissance paper.doc#" but when I checked the properties it says "0 bytes" and opens to a blank page
16:53<eyeofthetiger>or gedit or kate
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16:53<weedeater64>$ magicrescue -r .odt -d ~/output /dev/your.flash.drive
16:53<weedeater64>should work
16:53<weedeater64>erm, actually
16:53<eyeofthetiger>gonna say
16:53<weedeater64>not sure about that ~
16:53<eyeofthetiger>not /dev
16:53<eyeofthetiger>just the regular mounted file system at /media
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16:54<eyeofthetiger>kristina: look like anything?
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16:54<kristina>wait, it's a .doc file, not .odt
16:55<eyeofthetiger>doesn't matter.
16:55<weedeater64>k replace .odt with .doc, and forget the ~/output
16:55<eyeofthetiger>I gtg.
16:55<weedeater64>I think
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16:56<weedeater64>cd to / first
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16:56<kristina>so i write "magicrescue -r .doc -d /dev/fd0 (my flash drive)
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16:56<weedeater64>ya
16:57<weedeater64>If I read it correctly.
16:57<kristina>wait, what do you mean cd to / first?
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16:58<weedeater64>you can read the man, just don't do any writing until you get it
16:59<weedeater64>cd is change directory
17:00<weedeater64>I'm not sure that is necessary, my thinking was to search the whole drive.
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17:01<weedeater64>You'll probably do better reading the man page yourself.
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17:01<kristina>okay, thanks for the help
17:01<kristina>:)
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17:16<kristina>weedeater64, it tells me Opening .doc: No such file or directory
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17:18<Black_Prince>.rt
17:18<Black_Prince>Oh, wrong chan.
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17:29<jhutchins_lt>Pretty cool, what filesystems does magicrescue know how to handle?
17:29<__Alex_>Reiser 4
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17:33<Fwiss>Can I start x on multiple ttys?
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17:34<amphi>you mean run multiple x sessions? in that case, yes - startx -- :1 will start a second one
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17:35<Fwiss>Weird, the x session I started on tty 1 (that operates on tty7) has been replaced by it.
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17:36<amphi>it should have use the next available VT
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17:39<Fwiss>strted original on tty1
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17:40<Fwiss>the one on tty2 overrid it.
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17:43<amphi>Fwiss: what happens if you ctrl-c in tty2 ?
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17:46<Fwiss>Oh I see now
17:46<Fwiss>somehow I got my keyboard shortcut wrong
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17:47<Fwiss>I held it down so it wouldn't go to tty8
17:47<Fwiss>NICE
17:47<Fwiss>Thank you!
17:47<Fwiss>I couldn't figue it out from the man x
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17:50<Fwiss>so can I ADD sid instead of replace squeeze in my sources
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17:50<Fwiss>I wanna get conky.
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17:50<Fwiss>And stable desn't seem to have it
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17:53<Fwiss>so can I just ADD IN the line? I don't want to have to ypgrade.
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17:55<floomp>Fwiss: stable should have conky in the contrib section
17:56<Fwiss>apt-get wonky doesn't work anyhoo
17:56<Fwiss>*conky
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17:59<floomp>in your sources.list, just change the lines with "main" to "main contrib" and run apt-get update
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18:01<Fwiss>mut that still gives me acces to main, right?
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18:01<Fwiss>Thanks!
18:02<floomp>yeah, as long as it still says "main contrib" and not just "contrib"
18:02<floomp>np :)
18:02<Fwiss>Mine takes at least 3 hours to unpack locales. I wouldn't know how long it actually takes becaue i shut it down after that period.
18:02<Fwiss>Can I upgrade to sid without using locales?
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18:03<canaima>hola
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18:03<cretsiah>cant play dvd's on squeeze, error message comes up with possibly needing libdvdcss
18:03<Fwiss>??????
18:04<babilen>!libdvdcss2
18:04<dpkg>libdvdcss is a free software library for unscrambling <CSS>-encrypted DVDs, not to be confused with <DeCSS>. It is not distributed by Debian due to legal concerns. To acquire, install the libdvdcss2 package available from debian-multimedia, ask me about <dmm>. http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html
18:04<Fwiss>Can we ban dpkg? He acts like a jerk.
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18:05<Fwiss>!conky
18:05<dpkg>Conky is a highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. Packaged in <contrib> as of squeeze. http://conky.sf.net/faq.html http://conky.wikia.com/ http://conky.sf.net/ #conky on irc.freenode.net.
18:05<Fwiss>shut up dpkg!
18:05<babilen>cretsiah: You can either get it from Debian Multimedia (/msg dpkg dmm) or download it from the videolan website and install it manually with "dpkg -i"
18:06<babilen>Fwiss: Calm down, use /msg when you want need information from the bot and do not spam the channel. Thank you.
18:06<Fwiss>OK...
18:06<Fwiss>dpkg started it...
18:06<dpkg>Fwiss: wish i knew
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18:07<cretsiah>yes ty babilen wasnt sure if i msg''d dpkg properly .... :( was looking in the wrong spot
18:07<babilen>cretsiah: No problem at all -- fwiw, I stopped using dmm as it doesn't always play nice with the regular Debian packages. YMMV
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18:21<forlas1>Does NIC device reinitialize everytime the device tries to negotiate duplex/speed settings?
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18:25<kop>babilen: What do you do, rebuild the packages yourself?
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18:31<Zomb>forlas1: which NIC device? network interface?
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18:32<forlas1>Zomb: Yes, the ethernet network interfaces
18:32<Zomb>then no
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18:33<forlas1>That's what I thought, much appreciated!
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18:42<amine>hello
18:42<linusA>bttorrentdownloadcurses fails with errno 111 Connection refused. The usual answer to this error is just to wait, but Ive tested it simultaniously on another machine with transmission and it works. I have also tried using ctorrent and rtorrent both fail to work. Any suggestions?
18:42<amine>please i have a probleme with my backtrack it could'nt takes updates
18:42<amine>how can i do please
18:42<devil>!bt
18:42<dpkg>well, bt is Bhutan, or <bluetooth>, or British Telecom, or <bittorrent>, or <BackTrack>, or <bttv>.
18:43<devil>amine: this is debian, not backtrack
18:43<amine>backtrack
18:43<amine>ok but can you give me a server of backtrack please
18:43<devil>!backtrack
18:43<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid (as of BackTrack 5), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux.
18:44<devil>amine: ^
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18:45<amine>ok thanks you for your coorporation bye
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18:50<Black_Prince>coorporation?
18:50<icary>yes
18:50<icary>ello
18:50<Black_Prince>salut
18:51<icary>ah?
18:52<icary>salut
18:52<icary>coorporaton?
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19:01<linusA>bittornado was the solution. thought id tried all the ncurses apps but found one more
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19:07<cretsiah>@ babilen, not sure i uite followed instructions properly :) but dvd now works
19:07<cretsiah>*quite
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19:08<babilen>cretsiah: wonderful, enjoy the movie night
19:10<cretsiah>ty now i know there is sound on my system, just got to figure out why there was no sound coming from my server :(
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19:12<cretsiah>ok what ever was the problem, is now fixed i am so confused, just happy it all works thanks heaps
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19:39<antonio>hi how i can check the md5sum of my iso image of debian?
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19:40<themill>!check iso image
19:40<dpkg>To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD/DVD image, see http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum You should compare this md5sum to the checksum for the ISO image on the mirror. See also <check iso signature>.
19:40<antonio>dpkg, there is a program that do this job?
19:40<dpkg>antonio: what are you talking about?
19:41<antonio>i need to check the md5sum if is right of a debian 5 iso
19:41<antonio>before burn it on a dvd
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19:43<MrFrood>antonio: dpkg is a bot, however the command dpkg just gave you should do the job
19:43<antonio>thx MrFrood
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20:13<luser>mysql quickie - I have a tar of the whole /var/lib/sql directory from an old machine, how should I restore those databases onto a new machine (mysql's already installed)?
20:15<luser>can I create dummy databases with the right names in mysql, and copy the old files on top?
20:16<luser>I don't have a dumpfile (the backups were from a non-booting machine, I counldn't do anything apart from pull files off it from rescue mode)
20:17<kop>luser: The safe approach is to run an old mysql daemon and do a dump.
20:18<luser>kop - I only have the tarball, but I'm running the same version of debian on the new machine
20:20<luser>I presume I can't just untar the whole thing, as I don't want to change stuff in /var/lib/mysql/mysql
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20:20<kop>luser: I don't know what needs to go where but if you put everything back like it was then it might run. (Or not. Depends on whether the db was being updated when the disk stopped/when the tarball was taken. On-disk database strutures are notorious for being inconsistent when backed up at the filesystem level. That's why there's db dump commands.)
20:22<luser>I guess I can stop mysql, and make a back-up of my current empty-ish tree first, and then try to untar everything afresh.
20:22<luser>I'm worried about the stuff that's installation-specific though.
20:22<kop>luser: Presumably if it's broken the there's tools that will fix it and then you can dump/restore.
20:22<luser>it was a very low churn DB, I doubt anything changed in weeks
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20:29<luser>kop - oooh, looks like my recent install is older than my old install. the tarball has a debian-5.1.flag file, and my current system has a debian-5.0.flag (that was the only debian install disk I had to hand when the machine died, and I had no internet)
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20:34<luser>kop - yeah, I can't just copy everything across: error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
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20:44<luser>kop - now I'm screwed - I restored the new empty mysql directory, and I still can't get in :-(
20:46*vrkalak just installed a new Squeeze-6.3 from a net.install . . . still configuring it
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20:49<ndubg>anyone in here
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20:49<ndubg>i need help finding stolen laptop
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21:00<luser>ndubg: I'm sure nobody here stole it, and if they did, they wouldn't own up to it
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22:00<Devastator>I'm trying to use netselect to find the best debian mirror but it only gives timeout using version 0.3ds-21, traceroute -I completes routes and I can also ping no problems, any idea?
22:01<Devastator>forgot to say that I'm over wireless, my card is AR9285 based, using ath9k driver
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22:13<ccg>whats the fastest flash player in debian
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22:18<crd_>i'd imagine flashplugin-nonfree, if you've not got a problem with non-free software. otherwise, gnash probably has the best support.
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22:53<bastidrazor>hello, i'm getting :: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.steadfast.net/debian/dists/squeeze/updates/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 208.100.4.53 80]
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22:53<bastidrazor>even when i try the United States Server i get the same error for the repo
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23:00<vrkalak>my squeeze install if updating now (us)... seems to work ok here
23:01<vrkalak>is*
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