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#debian IRC Logs for 2011-10-27

---Logopened Thu Oct 27 00:00:22 2011
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01:27<rootlarry>hey can someone in here help me pleas
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01:28<sney>!ask
01:28<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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01:30<rootlarry>im trying to hack a wep but my screen keeps saying
01:30<rootlarry>ARP linktype is set to 1 (Ethernet) - expected ARPHRD_IEEE80211,
01:30<rootlarry>ARPHRD_IEEE80211_FULL or ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead. Make
01:30<rootlarry>sure RFMON is enabled: run 'airmon-ng start eth0 <#>'
01:30<rootlarry>Sysfs injection support was not found either.
01:30-!-rootlarry was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste]
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01:31<sney>!bt4-magic
01:31<dpkg>BackTrack is just an operating system. It does not magically turn you into a hacker. It is also offtopic in #debian. Please fulfill your fantasies in #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net.
01:31<rootlarry>im trying to hack a wep and my computer keeps saying your computer is set to ethernet 1
01:32<sney>maybe you need to do some more reading before your magical h4xx0rz skillz will blossom
01:32<sney>also you're in the wrong channel. please respect our rules and find the correct one.
01:32<g0rs>hehe
01:32<rootlarry>then it says blow me bitch
01:33<bartm>rootlarry, it seems you can't read
01:33<rootlarry>well thats what i say to u that is
01:33<sney>u mad.
01:33-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*rootlarry@69.219.224.*] by Ganneff
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02:24<Faham>my live build is not working properly each time I create a build it fails to load graphical desktop and on the console it shows authentication failure. please help.
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03:06<amitz>see what the gui log says
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03:44<Kharec>lo
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03:50<drpieguy>I'm having problems connecting to a wireless router.
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03:52<drpieguy>anyone have any suggestions?
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03:56<mbr>perhaps i can help if you give some more information about your connection problem
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04:27<mariano>hi
04:27<mariano>i need help with my sound card
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04:31<mns>!ask
04:31<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:33<mariano>i have sigmatel stac9200 chipset, debian squeeze 2.6.32-5-686, and it dont work
04:35<jm_>what's its PCI ID?
04:35<mariano>i have compiled alsa drivers, alsa lib, alsa oss, and alsa utils, downloaded from alsa web
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04:38<mariano>00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
04:38<streuner_>mariano: -nn
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04:38<streuner_>well, intel is a bitch, many soundchips supported via one drive
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04:39<streuner_>well, intel is a bitch, many soundchips supported via one driver
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04:40<mariano>sorry -nn?
04:40<cthuluh>lspci -nn
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04:41<mariano>00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 01)
04:41<mariano>00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 01)
04:41<mariano>00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 4 [8086:27d6] (rev 01)
04:41<streuner_>judd, pciid [8086:27d8
04:41<streuner_>judd, pciid 8086:27d8
04:41<judd>[8086:27d8] is 'N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:27d8 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module.
04:41<streuner_>here we go :-)
04:42<cthuluh>no real way to know which codec should run it, then
04:42<streuner_>well, my AD1986A isnt supported by ALSA too, newer kernels
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04:43<streuner_>but, there is OSS4...
04:43<cthuluh>you might want to try ''grep Codec /proc/asound/card0/codec#*''
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04:45<mariano>ok
04:45<mariano>"/proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200"
04:45<maxb>Does anyone know what the long-term outlook is on aptitude getting multiarch support?
04:45<streuner_>mariano: forget compiling ALSA, did you "/msg dpkg alsa-checklist" yet?
04:46<mariano>"/proc/asound/card0/codec#1:Codec: Conexant ID 2bfa"
04:46<jm_>mariano: stac9200 is mentioned in source code
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04:46<mariano>jm_ : but not work
04:46<mariano>forget compile
04:47<jm_>mariano: did you try loading the module with "model=auto"?
04:47<mariano>jm_yes
04:47<mariano>and some other models
04:47<mariano>its a laptop dell inspiron 6400
04:47<jm_>mariano: then I recommend to contact the ALSA mailing list or the LKML
04:48<mariano>and when y use an usb sound card works ok
04:48<cthuluh>you mean that the sound of the internal chip works ok when you plug in an external chip? :)
04:49<mariano>bash: /msg: No existe el fichero o el directorio
04:49<cthuluh>mariano: that is an irc command
04:49<mariano>bash: /msg: there's no file of dir
04:50<mariano>sorry iḿ newer
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04:50<jm_>mariano: did you try a newer kernel?
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04:51<streuner_>!+tell mariano -about alsa-checklist
04:51<dpkg>told mariano about alsa-checklist.
04:51<shanks>is there an easy command in Debian to test disk performance ?
04:52<shanks>or shouild I just use dd ?
04:53<cthuluh>try bonnie++
04:53<mariano>1: i am in the audio group
04:53<mariano>2: alsa mixer do not show speaker, but pcm it unmuted, and i can up level and down
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04:54<shanks>cthuluh: thanks
04:55<streuner_>mariano: what does "cat /proc/version" say, by the way?
04:55<mariano>3) arts or esound stopped? ( dont understand this)
04:55<mariano>Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-38) (ben@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Mon Oct 3 04:15:24 UTC 2011
04:55<streuner_>ARTS is the sounddaemon of KDE, esound for GNOME...
04:56<streuner_>if you dont run any of those, you just forget the entry
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04:56<streuner_>otherwise make sure, you disable them in the control-center
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04:56<mariano> 4: speaker do no exits in alsamixer neither other sound controls
04:56<streuner_>a bad sign
04:57<jm_>try a newer kernel first
04:58<shanks>cthuluh: bonnie+ dies with Writing intelligently...Can't write block. and then boom
04:59<mariano>aplay didnt work
04:59<mariano>6: modprobe snd-pcm-oss did not too
05:00<cthuluh>shanks: do you start it as root?
05:00<shanks>cthuluh: no. normal user.
05:00<streuner_>mariano: ok, next try, just try another kernel as jm_ told you, ALSA should be new enough then
05:00<mariano>7: no oss4 package installed, no need purge?
05:01<jm_>shanks: maybe it ran out of space? limits?
05:01<streuner_>no, you prolly using ALSA, if its the first time you heard about OSS4
05:02<mariano>ok new kernel so
05:02<mariano>streuner sorry, prolly?
05:02<streuner_>mariano: its a short for probably, i hope i spell it right ;-)
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05:03<mariano>better, i m learnig everday
05:03<streuner_>dpkg, spell probably
05:03<shanks>cthuluh: i even tried it with -d /tmp
05:03<dpkg>'probably' may be spelled correctly
05:06<mariano>but the soundcard is not very new one, if is not supported by this kernel, may be not suppoted the other one ¿i think?
05:07<streuner_>well, my soundcard was supported by older kernels, its just a bug...
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05:07<jm_>mariano: this is not always true
05:08<streuner_>mariano: if the newer kernel doesnt work, just use OSS4, maybe its supported then
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05:13<mariano>its installe pulseaudio-esound-compat
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05:13<mariano>not esound
05:13<streuner_>just remove it later
05:13<omeringen>hi
05:14<streuner_>pulseaudio*
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05:14<omeringen>i can't download BT- DVD's http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/bt-dvd/
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05:14<mariano>remove this pulseaudio-esound-compat or any pulseaudio package
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05:15<themill>omeringen: there's not much point in making a DVD image of something that will be out of date in 6 hours
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05:16<omeringen>hmm
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05:17<omeringen>isn't it updating every week
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05:18<themill>What are you really trying to do?
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05:18<omeringen>just gonna install testing build to my virtual machine
05:18<themill>those installers aren't for installing testing in any case
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05:19<mariano>ok i will try newer kernel thanks, jm_, streune, dpkg
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05:19<jm_>mariano: you can find it in the backports repository
05:21<mariano>ok
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05:48<mariano>ok reboot
05:48<mariano>see you
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06:16<nah>got one problem to solve- i got nvidia 6200 card with plug for lcd and tvout. can i make second lcd to only show output from tty12 without any reaction to keyboard? os is debian 6 without x11 server
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06:18<jm_>nah: you'll need X server for that
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06:42<nah>jm_: hmm... ok will install x then, just thought it might be done without it. anyway thanks
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07:38<xto>i need help for inatall rtl8187 en debian 6, thanks
07:39<jm_>!rtl8187
07:39<dpkg>Realtek 802.11b/g PCI and USB wireless LAN chipsets (RTL8180L, RTL8185L, RTL8187L, RTL8187B, RTL8187SE) are supported by the rtl8180, rtl8187 and rtl8187se/r8187se drivers in the Linux kernel. All drivers do not require firmware from userspace. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x . For support of Realtek 802.11n devices, ask me about <rtl819x>.
07:39<jm_>read instructions on the wiki
07:39<xto>thanks ;)
07:40<xto>ok
07:40<xto>is detected, but don show the networks
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07:41<xto>the intel chip show networks, realtek no...
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07:52<amitz>how to make adjustment of ReceivingWINdows more rapid?
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07:54<amitz>i find current debian's kernel setting is too conservatice to, say cyanogenmod's linux kernel.
07:54<amitz>of rwin
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07:57<xto>modprobe rtl8187 said me : WARNING ; All config files need .conf: /etcmodprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored ina future release
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07:58<xto>in this page : http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x#Squeeze
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08:00<jm_>it's just a warning
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09:15<EmleyMoor>Are there any major cons regarding setting root's shell to be zsh?
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09:26<shanks>EmleyMoor: I really wouldn't advise that
09:27<EmleyMoor>Right, I'm all ears... why not?
09:27<nocturnal>EmleyMoor: try it and find out
09:27<nocturnal>then come back and tell us about it
09:28<nocturnal>I can't think of any direct consequences but it's not recommended by people who don't know how to reset it.
09:28<nocturnal>it is easy to reset, just edit the boot arguments in grub and do init=/bin/bash
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09:29<nocturnal>same procedure as when resetting root passwords.
09:29<nocturnal>or if you still have user access you could just do sudo chsh root
09:29<nocturnal>so it's not a big deal
09:29*EmleyMoor has been simply doing exec zsh as root when a zsh feature has been wanted, so far
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09:33<nocturnal>general rule of thumb for me is, if I know how to change it back, I'll give it a shot.
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09:41<makiavel> xscreensaver-command -lock xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
09:41<makiavel>anyone knows how to fix it? ...
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09:43<nocturnal>back when I used linux I would use xlock. maybe that's outdated.
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09:49<gnugr>makiavel: go there and read " http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man3.html " i hope it will help you
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09:51<makiavel>gnugr: thanks man
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10:03<eightyeight>i'm running openbox standalone, and many gtk2 apps look like crap
10:03<eightyeight>it's like i've gone back in time to 1995
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10:03<eightyeight>any idea how to fix these?
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10:06<eightyeight>update-manager, lastfm, network-manager so far are the apps that look like they're drawing gtk1.0 styles
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10:07<shanks>retro
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10:07<eightyeight>ugly
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10:08<eightyeight>yet things like terminator and tomboy have the modern clearlooks theme applied to them
10:08<babilen>eightyeight: Take a look at gtk-theme-switch and/or gtk-chtheme ... I assume that you are using stable though.
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10:10<eightyeight>good point. my bad. i'll move to #debian-next
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10:28<shanks>lli: reverse DNS?
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10:29<shanks>lli: some services respond with latency when you don't have PTR records in your DNS. I'm not sure if httpd is one of them.
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10:59<jhutchins_lt>lli: Have a look at the load on the webserver. Check to see if it's using swap (use iostat fromthe sysstats package).
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11:14<Qazjap11>Hello, I have troubles with port forwarding with iptables. I try to forward port 2600/udp from wlan0->eth0. Here is my history log, when the first time I tried it worked, but from the second time and forth it didn't. http://pastebin.com/fHG4aXfp .I also can't forward other ports like 51312/tcp. Here is my iptables when the system gets up: http://pastebin.com/9h8RsCvW . Thanks
11:14<Qazjap11>26000*
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11:15<Qazjap11>btw in the end of the history the port is 2600, it was a mistake, and niether 26000 worked
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11:15<shanks>Qazjap11: The host that you are forwarding to. Is it the same host as the gateway or is it an internal host?
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11:17<Qazjap11>the host I am forwarding from is the gateway, the one I forward to is the internal one
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11:17<shanks>Qazjap11: if you forward to an internal host then you will have to SNAT again on the way out
11:18<shanks>Qazjap11: unless you just NAT all outbound traffic anyway, which you may do it the interal host is not in a DMZ, for example
11:18<Qazjap11>isn't the "[4837:330746] -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE " enought?
11:18<Qazjap11>enough*
11:18<shanks>Qazjap11: yeah.. but you don't really want to use the MASQUERRADE target unless you have a connection that may not always be up
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11:19<shanks>Qazjap11: use -j SNAT --to..
11:19<polix>Hello everybody
11:19<polix>Чи є тут українці?
11:20<sney>!ru
11:20<dpkg>eto anglijsko govorjashhij kanal, pozhalujsta govorite po anglijski ili posetite #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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11:21<Qazjap11>shanks, I'll try, thanks
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11:21<polix>I am sorry, but it was ukrainian, not russian ;) I will write english only, if it's one of rules of this chat :)
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11:22<Qazjap11>sec, I do have a connection that is often gets down
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11:24<sney>polix: yes, this is an english channel. there are channels for other languages but maybe not ukrainian
11:25<shanks>Qazjap11: you dont need -to 192.168.1.10:26000, -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.10, should do it
11:25<shanks>Qazjap11: you've already specified the protocol and port with -p udp and --dport
11:25<polix>sney: I know this problem: there are less ukrainian users here :)
11:25<sney>polix: anyway, do you have a debian question?
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11:26<shanks>Qazjap11: also your forward rule will need to allow 192.168.1.10 OUT. if you put -j LOG --log-prefix 'blah' entries in your rules you'll be able to see in syslog where packets are going
11:26<polix>sney: yes, how will be debian 7 wheezy? Are there some details about future GNOME or KDE for Debian 7?
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11:27<jhutchins_lt>!gnome3
11:27<sney>it's going to release with gnome 3 as default, with kde 4.something available (currently 4.6.5 in testing)
11:28<dpkg>GNOME 3 is the new and not yet complete version of the GNOME desktop environment. Bits of it are starting to work their way into Debian unstable at the moment and wheezy will release with it. See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.0-status.html for details. Also ask me about <install gnome>, <gnome-shell>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/04/msg00111.html
11:28<babilen>polix: Wheezy will release with whatever Gnome upstream version is in it when it is frozen. I guess it is going to be 3.2, but who knows?
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11:28<jhutchins_lt>It'd be nice if they bumped wheezy's kde to 4.7, I hear good things about it.
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11:28<sney>Debian always has multiple window managers/desktop environments available to suit your choice, unlike the Ubuntu crowd where you find yourself installing a different xubuntu/kubuntu/whatever just to change the GUI
11:29<sney>jhutchins_lt: yeah, I'm not sure what the holdup is. the -kde channel topic only says "no eta on 4.7"
11:29<polix>babilen: hmmm, it would be good if wheezy will take always fresh versions and support this for 2 years :)
11:29<sney>that wouldn't be a stable release
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11:30<polix>sney: really? I am using aptosid and its very stable! :)
11:30<sney>There is a real "rolling" debian release in the works, but who knows when it'll actually come out.
11:30<sney>polix: sorry, I mean Stable as the Debian definition, not just "stable usage"
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11:31<babilen>polix: If software fulfills the requirements to enter testing it will be part of the stable release.
11:31<babilen>!stable
11:31<dpkg>[stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Squeeze (6.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable
11:31<sney>you wouldn't put aptosid on a production server, or deploy it across a big set of workstations
11:31<crd_>actually sney, ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/etc all pull from the same repositories, so you don't /need/ to install one over the other, you can just use tasksel on a typical ubuntu install. the more you know ~~~===*
11:31<sney>crd_: I did have a feeling that was possible, but it seems that nobody knows
11:32<crd_>here's the full list of tasks, for your perusal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel#Tasks_List
11:32<babilen>Why shouldn't it be possible? The distinction Ubuntu makes is at first easy for new users and then confusing for more advanced ones. But this is not #ubuntu, so lets take it to #debian-offtopic
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11:33<polix>sney: aah ok I understand now what do mean with "stable" :)
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11:34<wayne_>hello can anyone help me with a sed script?
11:35<polix>sney: are you using always stable debian?
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11:35<polix>wayne: whats your problem? ;)
11:35<sney>polix: I use stable on production systems and testing on personal ones
11:35<wayne_>i am trying to remove newlines from all lines that end with a comma, but i do not seem to be doing it correctly
11:36<polix>sney: ok :) I was early ubuntu user but now aptosid and I am very satisfied with debian unstable :)
11:36<shanks>crd_: there would be a lot of redundancy otherwise :)
11:36<polix>wayne: are you programming something?
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11:36<themill>wayne_: sed is perhaps the wrong tool for that.
11:37<wayne_>themill, do you have any suggestions?
11:37<Qazjap11>shanks, oh I'm so stupid, I had old iptables rules on the dest comp. Thanks a lot for help!
11:37*themill would do it in perl
11:37<polix>have a nice evening for all !
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11:38<wayne_>polix, i am trying to remove the newlines from between the value entries of a big sql statement
11:38<Qazjap11>shanks, what is stange is how it worked all this time..
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11:38<Qazjap11>thanks a lot
11:39<shanks>Qazjap11: did it help ?
11:39<wayne_>themill, i don't mind learning perl but i have never used it
11:39<themill>wayne_: when working on something like SQL you need to be careful not to do things you don't want to... but perl -pe '/,$/ && chomp()'
11:40<themill>babilen: ^^ go on python-boy... beat that ;)
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11:40<Qazjap11>shanks, Yea, it helped me to recall the old iptables rules on the target comp :)
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11:40<wayne_>themill, toolate, i have already done something i did not want to do
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11:41<themill>wayne_: I was more meaning "make sure you don't accidentally create invalid syntax in automatically editing it"
11:41<babilen>themill: Hehe :)
11:41<shanks>I have used CloneZilla (which is not really what it's for) and even that was overkill. Was just wondering if there was something nice to do automated, offsite, network based, TESTED, backups across platform
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11:41<wayne_>themill, i think that is what i did (are new lines invalid in between values?)
11:41<shanks>sorry people, wrong window
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11:42<grandie>how can I monitor traffic between my nick and my dsl/router?
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11:42<shanks>grandie: nick ?
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11:42<grandie>shanks: as in network card
11:43<shanks>grandie: tcpdump
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11:43<aeb>grandie: and that's NIC without a K
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11:44<grandie>aeb: thanks, still learing the ropes.
11:44<jhutchins_lt>nick is your IRC handle.
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11:45<grandie>jhutchins_lt: I knew I had gotten my wires crossed somewhere, thanks.
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11:47<grandie>shanks: will tcpdump continue to monitor the connection?
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11:48<aeb>tcpdump will run until you stop it
11:48<grandie>guess I need to check out tcpdump, thanks.
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11:49<aeb>what exactly do you want to do? tcpdump will print dumps of all network packets it sees, decoded as far as it knows the protocol
11:52<grandie>looking to see if anything is going on that I am not aware of in the background.
11:53<shanks>grandie: there will be a lot of stuff that you don't need to be aware of in the background.
11:53<aeb>ok, then tcpdump is the right tool
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11:55<grandie>shanks: I'm just trying to get a handle on my single computer to make sure it is still safe in the world.
11:56<grandie>aeb: thanks, already pulling information together now on tcpdump for my operation.
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12:00<jhutchins_lt>grandie: You may also want to look at netstat -a, top, and ps ax
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12:02<grandie>jhutchins_lt: thanks, I'll put them on my list, I really appreciate everyone's help!
12:02<jhutchins_lt>shanks: rsync
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13:55<blackhorse>hello guys, i have a question
13:55<retrospectacus>!ask
13:55<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:56<blackhorse>i installed debian base, single console, but is posible install minimal features grphical,
13:56<blackhorse>for run apps gui ?
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13:57<retrospectacus>what gui app would you like to run?
13:57<ompaul>blackhorse: it depends on what you describe as minimum and what he said ;-)
13:57<retrospectacus>just apt-get install whatever, and it will pull in the minimal dependencies
13:57<retrospectacus>(which could easily be a whole DE)
13:59<blackhorse>right, look i have a app gui , that show a screen , but idont want menus or icons, just my app
14:00<blackhorse>i research and only instal xorg , is right ???
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14:00<blackhorse>as minimum install , just console, is kernel and shell, is all
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14:43<x0x>hi, I got a problem I install debian on my laptop and choose to encrypt home folder (install force me to crypt swap too) problem is now I have to hit my passphrase 2x time on boot, is to possible to disable this ?
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14:44<jhutchins_lt>x0x: What would be the point of having it encrypted if you didn't have to enter the password?
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14:45<x0x>jhutchins_lt, I expect to uncrypt it when I login to my session but I think I did things wrong :/
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14:46<x0x>jhutchins, could be ok if it ask it only one time but 1 time for swap + 1 time for home + 1 time for sessions a bit weird
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15:12<oskie>how can I find out what packages are included when you select 'Standard system' during installation?
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15:14<oskie>ok, found out. tasksel. is it possible to remove all standard system packages easily?
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15:16<oskie>I wonder what would happen if I did aptitude search ~pstandard -F"%p purge" | dpkg --set-selection
15:16<cmr>Only way to know is to try :)
15:17<retrospectacus>why would you do that?
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15:17<oskie>i want to remove all standard packages
15:18<retrospectacus>...
15:18<retrospectacus>why would you do that?
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15:19<oskie>because i want this system to be minimal, because it improves security for one thing
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15:21<cmr>Most of standard is needed for the system to even function, and removing everything won't improve security much, if at all.
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15:23<retrospectacus>not at all - the standard system doesn't have any services or open ports
15:23<retrospectacus>and yeah .. your system will probably not work at all
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15:24<Black_Prince>actualy, it would function without standard packages ...
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15:24<Black_Prince>~pstandard, that is ... but without ~prequired or ~pimportant it would not ...
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15:29<cmr>No python would be a big barrier to me. Let me go drop debian on my sacrifice box and we'll see what happens.
15:29<retrospectacus>oh yeah
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15:30<cmr>Actually I can use a vm for that. My poor sacrifice box sees so little use these days :(
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15:46<bartm>newly added file doesn't show up in "git diff". Normal ? What am I doing wrong ? I'm new to git...
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15:49<cmr>bartm: git add new_file
15:50<bartm>cmr, did that, but still doesn't show the new_file contents in "git diff"
15:52<cmr>bartm: Have you committed yet?
15:52<bartm>not yet committed. "git diff" does show uncommitted changes to other files, just not the contents of the new file
15:53<cmr>git diff by default compares files in the working directory to those in the most recent commit.
15:54<cmr>If the file isn't in the repository yet (and hasn't been commited), it won't show.
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15:57<cmr>bartm: git status should show the new file.
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15:57<bartm>cmr, yes "git status" mentiones the new file
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16:03<bartm>cmr, and how to commit the changes to just one file while not yet committing changes to other files ?
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16:04<cmr>bartm: I do not know. I would assume you just don't commit all the other files in that commit.
16:04<bartm>hmm ok thanks
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16:08<karim>hello
16:08<karim>i have a prob in gnome
16:09<retrospectacus>!ask
16:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:10<karim>yes ok
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16:10<karim>i have a probléme to execut gdm in debian squeeze
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16:11<karim>knoppix?
16:12<karim>pb de lancement de gdm au moment de se loguer une fenetre avecun terminal se place en au a gauche de l'ecran
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16:12<retrospectacus>karim: that is not a useful description of your problem... see !ask ...also
16:12<retrospectacus>!en
16:12<dpkg>The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de
16:12<bartm>karim, english here
16:12<karim>yes
16:12<karim>fo my probléme to run gdm
16:13<ompaul>!fr
16:13<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
16:13<karim>the irc in french alone ask
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16:13<retrospectacus>try to ask here in English
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16:14<retrospectacus>there might be people in #debian-fr over on irc.freenode.net perhaps
16:14<karim>yes
16:15<karim>i don't execute gdm
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16:16<bartm>cmr, found it. "git diff --cached" shows also the newly added file before it's committed :)
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16:31<canaima>saludos desde venezuela
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16:35<jose>olaaa
16:35<jose>ay alguien??
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16:38<jhutchins_lt>!es
16:38<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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17:37<tibeoh>hello
17:37<tibeoh>somebody know RoundCube ?
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17:37<EmleyMoor>tibeoh obviously doesn't want to know the answer
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17:59<elder_>Anyone willing to help a trouble newbie to Debian?
17:59<bartm>!ask
17:59<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:59<elder_>It's not even that I'm new to Debian
17:59<elder_>it's that my motherboards NIC isn't supported.
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18:00<elder_>or well.
18:00<elder_>the NIC's drivers get downloaded, but it's the wrong driver, so it's almost unusable and i've already unloaded it.
18:00<elder_>it's the Realtek 8111e rev. 6
18:01<elder_>i have the r8168 driver source ready, but the makefile isn't acting correctly.
18:01<elder_>i followed a few people's posts, but each time it doesn't work correctly
18:01<elder_>i've reinstalled a twice.
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18:01<elder_>!ask
18:01<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
18:03<retrospectacus>elder_: what is the output of ''lspci -nn |grep -i net''
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18:04<elder_>Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)
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18:06<retrospectacus>!rtl8168d
18:06<dpkg>The Realtek RTL8111D/RTL8168D Ethernet controller is supported by <r8169> since Linux 2.6.31. Firmware patches (rtl8168d-1.fw, rtl8168d-2.fw) for use with linux-2.6 2.6.32-20 and later are packaged since firmware-nonfree 0.28, ask me about <realtek firmware>. These provide a bug fix for the controller (gigabit operation with a wider variety of cables and link partners); in many cases, the controller and driver will work without these.
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18:07<retrospectacus>that's all I got
18:07<elder_>The lspci says RTL8168B
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18:07<elder_>not D
18:07<elder_>that's the problem, Debian installation loaded the r8169 driver
18:07<elder_>which was making it so unstable it was unusable.
18:07<elder_>packet loss like crazy.
18:07<elder_>20+sec lag on irc
18:08<elder_>i need to load the r8168 driver
18:08<elder_>and i have the source
18:08<elder_>but no luck compiling it/getting it to work.
18:08<elder_>i get nothing but errors with the makefile
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18:10<elder_>I've been really wanting to get back into linux since I've not really used it for roughly a year or more
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18:11<retrospectacus>says to use this patch from <realtek firmware>, did yo try that?
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18:11<elder_>and the new motherboard i purchased last month has an unsupported NIC(well, difficult. lol)
18:11<elder_>the r8168?
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18:12<elder_>i grabbed the r8168 driver(the one my nic is supposed to use) from the Realtek official site.
18:13<elder_>unloaded my driver
18:13<elder_>the r8169
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18:13<elder_>the one that is the incorrect one
18:13<elder_>and i have the correct driver's source currently.
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18:15<mari>helow
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18:15<mari>any help me with the wireless adpter?
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18:16<bartm>mari, go ahead
18:17<retrospectacus>elder_: use the r8169 and apt-get install firmware-realtek (add <non-free sources>)
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18:19<elder_>retrospectacus, so reinstall, use the default driver(r8169) and get that package?
18:19<elder_>also, non-free sources?
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18:20<mari>ok bartm, said me: i only install de wireless-tools and firmware-realtek, iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/93m2tEfm
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18:20<mari>i need the wlan0 and wlan1
18:20<retrospectacus>no need to reinstall
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18:21<elder_>retrospectacus, is there a way to just reload the r8169 drivers that i have already rmmod/unloaded?
18:22<mari>my dmesg : http://pastebin.com/t67pn3XX
18:22<retrospectacus>elder_: modprobe r8169 I believe
18:22<elder_>also, is there any reason as to why when i boot into the live disc(USB) that i have, it shows auto eth0 and doesn't APPEAR to have bad latency?
18:22<elder_>because i just booted into it and saw that it was fine.
18:22<elder_>haha
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18:24<mari>bartm, i put the dmesg and iwconfig, what do you think?
18:25<bartm>mari, as I said in private, talk to the #debian channel, not to me
18:25<elder_>retrospectacus, there seems to be no modprobe command.
18:25<mari>i talk to channel
18:25<mari>thanks
18:26<retrospectacus>elder_: you need to be root or use sudo
18:26<elder_>retrospectacus, i just saw my mistake right before you replied. lol.
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18:28<mari>any help me, please?
18:28<elder_>retrospectacus, unable to locate the package
18:28<retrospectacus>you added non-free and ran apt-get update?
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18:29<elder_>what is the non-free source?
18:29<elder_>like
18:29<retrospectacus>mari: what is your problem? Your pastes look fine.
18:29<elder_>yeah.
18:29<elder_>hold on. i'll google it.
18:29<retrospectacus>elder_: /msg dpkg non-free sources
18:30<mari>mi problem is that i have 3 wireless adapters and only run 1
18:30<retrospectacus>yes?
18:30<mari>two dont show interfaces
18:30<mari>sorry
18:30<mari>networks
18:31<mari>for iwlist wlan1 scan : no scan results
18:31<elder_>retrospectacus, it said that dpkg needed an action
18:31<retrospectacus>why do you have/want >1 wireless?
18:32<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell elder_ about non-free sources
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18:32<mari>only 2 are mine the other have given me to solve the problem
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18:34<elder_>retrospectacus, still did nothing.
18:34<elder_>retrospectacus, even /msg dpkg non-free sources returned nothing in the client.
18:34<elder_>dpkg, non-free sources
18:34<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then aptitude update. But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
18:34<elder_>there we go. lol. sorry for being so oblivious.
18:36<elder_>retrospectacus, which ones are the two main mirrors? There are three groups of two.
18:37<elder_>is it the two near the bottom under the #squeeze-updates (volatile) comment
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18:37<elder_>or the two at the top?
18:37<elder_>the ftp.us.debian.org/debian
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18:40<elder_>eff it, i just added to all for now. I'm updating aptititude
18:40<elder_>retrospectacus, still unable to locate the package firmware-realtek
18:41<elder_>after updating aptitude, it does say that some index files failed to download, may have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
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18:43<retrospectacus>your lines in sources.list should look something like...
18:43<retrospectacus>deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
18:44<retrospectacus>except probably with us instead of ca, and squeeze instead of wheezy
18:45<elder_>that's indeed what they do look like.
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18:46<elder_>deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
18:46<elder_>next line is deb-src
18:46<elder_>then it repeats but the sub domain changes to security
18:46<elder_>then there's a commented title for squeeze/volatile updates
18:46<elder_>with two lines underneath that.
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18:49<elder_>retrospectacus, I just found the package here: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-realtek/download
18:49<elder_>and it says that the line doesn't need 'contrib' in it.
18:49<retrospectacus>hmm
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18:51<retrospectacus>judd: versions firmware-realtek
18:51<judd>Package: firmware-realtek on i386 -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.32~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 0.33; wheezy/non-free: 0.33
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18:52<elder_>couldn't i essentially just dl the package from that link
18:52<elder_>onto a flash drive
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18:52<elder_>and load it onto my desktop?
18:53<elder_>nevermind
18:53<elder_>it's loading it now.
18:53<elder_>the package
18:53<retrospectacus>yep you could
18:53<elder_>man, the ftp package list is so useful
18:53<elder_>haha
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18:54<elder_>okay, now that it's installed, the firmare
18:54<elder_>it still says that my wired device isn't managed.
18:54<elder_>no auto eth0 or anything.
18:54<elder_>just greyed out text 'device not manage'
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18:55<retrospectacus>you can manage it from the terminal - dhclient eth0 or ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.83 or such
18:55<retrospectacus>or with /etc/network/interfaces
18:55<elder_>do i have to have any specs from the network hardware im connecting to or?
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18:55<elder_>like manually putting in the mac of the router-switch
18:55<elder_>or?
18:56<retrospectacus>no
18:56<charles>hmmmm
18:56<elder_>i'm in cisco, the class, but it's pretty proprietary. they have support for tehir software for linux, of course, but the class itself is only dealed with windows software
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18:57<elder_>also, typing ifconfig eth0 returs a block of information
18:57<elder_>but doesn't really do anything.
18:57<elder_>the information is assigned to eth0, as it's on the left.
18:58<elder_>but
18:58<elder_>yeah.
18:59<retrospectacus>you can assign an address or get one via dhcp like I said above
19:00<elder_>i did dhclient
19:00<elder_>and in the interfaces file
19:00<elder_>it lists the eth0 interface as dhcp
19:00<elder_>but
19:00<elder_>still says it's unmanaged.
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19:01<elder_>is this normal or should i restart or do i have to manually add it in the network window?
19:01<retrospectacus>I don't know how network-manager works
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19:01<retrospectacus>but if dhclient worked, you should be online, forget about that thing saying "managed" or not
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19:04<zykotick9>elder_, if you have setting in interfaces then N-M will say "not managed" you'd need to remove the settings (in interfaces) to let N-M take over
19:05<elder_>zykotick9, ohhh, so they are simply two completely separate clients/handlers
19:06<elder_>zykotick9, Thank you. ^.%^
19:06<zykotick9>elder_, basically, yes
19:06<elder_>retrospectacus, I mean, it's working.
19:06<elder_>however, im unsure of how stable it is yet.
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19:08<elder_>retrospectacus, it still seems slow/unstable. tried loading speedtest.net and it failed after a minute or two.
19:08<elder_>loaded google in about 10seconds
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19:08<elder_>facebook in like two
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19:09<elder_>yeaaah..taking forever just to ping to freenode and it failed.
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19:09<elder_>logging into facebook timed out, as well.
19:09<elder_>so it works, but it doesn't.
19:11<elder_>lag of 15+ seconds in irc.
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19:14<elder_>retrospectacus, are you sure that using this driver should be perfectly fine?
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19:15<retrospectacus>no... I have a nvidia NIC. I'm just trying to help you follow the instructions dpkgbot has
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19:15<parents>looking for debian-mobile
19:16<elder_>nvidia makes NICs?
19:16<elder_>never knew.
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19:16<parents>im trying to put debian shell onto nexus s 4g
19:16<elder_>and i do really appreciate it, man.
19:16<elder_>i'm reading the information for the firmware-realtek package
19:16<parents>does anyone know of a working img?
19:16<parents>or how to?
19:17<retrospectacus>elder_: there might me something you have to do to enable the patch dpkg was talking about?
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19:17<elder_>and it only supports the realtek 8111D
19:17<elder_>and the RTL8168D
19:17<elder_>mine is the RTL8168B
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19:21<retrospectacus>sorry mate, that's all I got
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19:23<nnenadic>\name nikola
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19:23<elder_>would you happen to know why it seemed fine in the live disc?
19:23<retrospectacus>what live CD is that?
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19:25<Blacker47>hello. i have problems removing one package: http://paste.debian.net/140552/
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19:26<Blacker47>how can i fix it?
19:27<retrospectacus>looks like it got removed from the keyring already. You could reinstall it and then the removal should work
19:27<retrospectacus>Blacker47: ^
19:27<Blacker47>yes.. but debian-multimedia is not more at my source-list (and afair i hade some troubles with them last time)
19:28<Blacker47>so, there may be some other ways, to force or to change the pre-removal script?
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19:29<elder_>retrospectacus, it's the squeeze cd
19:30<elder_>the i386 one
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19:31<retrospectacus>good question; I do not know
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19:42<Blacker47>retrospectacus, ok, i have installed the package directly as .deb and then remove it, thanks
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19:48<retrospectacus>nice work :)
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20:31<jeremiah__>Can anyone help me with uninstalling java 1.5 and installing java 1.6?
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20:33<jeremiah__>Can anyone help me with uninstalling java 1.5 and installing java 1.6?
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20:35<retrospectacus>jeremiah__: 1) don't repeat yourself 2) explain your problem. No one is going to respond to that
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20:38<jeremiah__>I've installed sun-java6 in order to run Minecraft. When I type java -version it still shows java 1.5.0. How do I remove java 1.5 so that I can install java6?
20:39<dvs>jeremiah__: update-java-alternatives
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20:41<jeremiah__>dvs: thank you
20:42<dvs>np
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20:53<always_leo_1>hello. i need some help installing Squeeze
20:53<always_leo_1>could someone with installiation experience help me out
20:54<dvs>!ig
20:54<dpkg>The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>.
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20:55<always_leo_1>@dpkg i read through the guide and could not find my answer
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20:56<always_leo_1>the program goes to the graphical menu (default installation, automatic installation, expert installation)
20:57<always_leo_1>i try each menu choice and the program freezes with only 5% done on progress bar
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21:20<roddie>Can anyone offer some advice on fontconfig? I'm trying to specify a specific font for sans serif
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22:01<x-kap3>hey what is the language in this channel??
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22:04<dardevelin>x-kap3, hi, english
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22:08<x-kap3>ok dardevelin thanks
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22:12<jhutchins_lt>!es
22:12<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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22:19<x-kap3>hey i need a help power management show in supported cpu policies ---> no found somebody knew about this
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22:21<x-kap3>I'm using kde
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23:18<hwilsmann>hi guys
23:20<hwilsmann>anyone know about lguest error when compiling kernel?
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23:21<bones_was_here>hwilsmann: you should pastebin the output of your compile
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23:28<hwilsmann>bones_was_here: ?
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