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00:34<wompa>What package should I install so Totem will ask me if I want to search for codecs? (I just installed Squeeze with minimal desktop without recommended packages)
00:40<wompa>Found it, gnome-codec-install
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01:45<Dark_Link>i need help i cant eddit my encrypted partition with gparted
01:46<Tash>Dark_Link: is it mounted?
01:46<Dark_Link>and i want to make a swap out of the fat32 partition in the lvm
01:46<Dark_Link>yes
01:47<Dark_Link>it says linux unified key encryption is not supported
01:47<Dark_Link>not yet*
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01:49<Iceicebaby>hello
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01:51<Iceicebaby>Anyone here?
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01:51<Iceicebaby>hello grrr
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01:53<Dark_Link>any ideas trash?
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01:54<Tash>Dark_Link: is tash D:
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01:55<Dark_Link>wops saw it wrong my bad :p
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02:04<wompa>!ask
02:04<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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02:08<Dark_Link>well ny second question is where is the linux equivalent of a windows apptata folder?
02:08<Dark_Link>my*
02:08<cmr>What does that folder do on windows?
02:09<dardevelin>Dark_Link, i think if you press ctrl+h you will see the hidden folders
02:09<dardevelin>nvm
02:09<Dark_Link>ahh i see
02:09<dardevelin>i miss read apptata with aptana (an ide)
02:09<Dark_Link>its there :)
02:10<cmr>Dark_Link: I did that too at first
02:10<Dark_Link>thanks
02:10<dardevelin>and you probably mean appdata no ?
02:10<Dark_Link>well i wondered where minecraft put its folder
02:10<cmr>~/.minecraft
02:10<Dark_Link>ya i founded it
02:10<dardevelin>:D
02:10<cmr>In linux, files/directories prefixed with a period are "hidden". Most tools hide them by default.
02:10<Dark_Link>now only if i knew how to eddit a partition in a lvm
02:10<cmr>there's nothing actually special about them though.
02:10<Dark_Link>ya i know
02:11<Dark_Link>havent used linux for a long time
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02:11<dardevelin>gnu+linux you mean right ? :D
02:11<Dark_Link>yep
02:11<dardevelin>yeah cause 0.25% of the os isn't much to gain such a name ::D
02:12<Dark_Link>do you know how to eddit a encrypted lvm partition?
02:12<Dark_Link>gparted wont do it :s
02:12<dardevelin>Dark_Link, not sure but i think gparted could do it
02:12<Dark_Link>it says linux unified key encryption is not yet supported
02:12<Dark_Link>with gparted
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02:13<kuhkatz>how did that partition got created?
02:13<Dark_Link>when i installed debian
02:13<Dark_Link>i picked the option?
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02:14<Dark_Link>i just want to change a fat32 partition into a swap
02:15<Dark_Link>i dont care about hybernation
02:15<dardevelin>Dark_Link, and your using the fat32 on all system ?
02:15<cmr>Dark_Link: What is there to change? mkswap /dev/whatever doesn't work?
02:15<Dark_Link>lol no dardevelin exit4
02:15<cmr>Unless you want to resize it to make room for swap
02:16<dardevelin>oh, so i guess you can just delete the fat32 partition and make a new one
02:16<Dark_Link>it wouldent do swap during the install cause it said of secirity reasons
02:16<dardevelin>i don't think there is obstacle from doing that
02:16<Dark_Link>there was on a wheezy install
02:16<Dark_Link>guess i should add that to the bugs
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02:17<dardevelin>encryption doesn't stop you from formatting the disk, just stops from reading without a key
02:17<Dark_Link>so how would i list the partitions underthe swap?
02:17<Dark_Link>under the lvm i mean
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02:18<dardevelin>not sure what your trying to say. So you have a fat32 and you want to format it to put a swap partition
02:18<Dark_Link>yes
02:19<dardevelin>whats the deal? you can select the fat32 and simply erase
02:19<Dark_Link>it should be /dev/dm-4
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02:19<dardevelin>try using gparted for that task
02:19<Dark_Link>but gparted cant read it
02:19<Dark_Link>as its in a encrypted lvm
02:20<dardevelin>what about disk utility ?
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02:20<Dark_Link>it sees them but their unkown
02:20<kuhkatz>but the system is up? then the drive itself is decrypted, and the partition should be usable
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02:20<kuhkatz>"decrypted", as in "you can read it"
02:20<Dark_Link>so mkswap /dev/dm-4? would change it to a swap partition?
02:21<Dark_Link>and turn the swap on?
02:21<Dark_Link>and no it cant read it
02:21<Dark_Link>it cant read any of them via disk utility
02:21<Dark_Link>their all unkown
02:22<Dark_Link>it says their not partitioned?
02:22<dardevelin>Dark_Link, can you print screen gparted interface ?
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02:23<kuhkatz>this is full disc dm-crypt of a lvm of all your hdd space, yes? because, as i understood it, its a "you get em all or nothing" thing
02:24<Dark_Link>yes
02:24<dardevelin>this is an ubuntu tutorial but have a look
02:24<dardevelin>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
02:24<Dark_Link>here ill upload the screenshot
02:24<dardevelin>nvm
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02:25<dardevelin>wrong tut page
02:25<Dark_Link>http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/screenshotfjv.png/
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02:26<dardevelin>lol thats a print screen of xchat not gparted
02:26<bloopokaybleep>How do I copy stuff in irssi? Stupid question, I know, but humor me.
02:26<Dark_Link>ug lol let me do it again
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02:27<Dark_Link>http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/screenshot1iml.png/
02:27<dardevelin>bloopokaybleep, http://irssi.org/documentation/settings
02:27<bloopokaybleep>I looked there, but didn't find much
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02:31<Dark_Link>hmm i guess the making swap on /dev/dm-4 worked
02:31<Dark_Link>according to system tools after i used swap on
02:31<dardevelin>Dark_Link, oh nice
02:31<Dark_Link>my last question after i used swap on does it stay on after a reboot?
02:32<Dark_Link>or do i need to eddit the fstab
02:32<dardevelin>Dark_Link, check the fstab
02:32<dardevelin>if its there probably no
02:32<dardevelin>if it isn't better add it
02:32<dardevelin>:D
02:32<Dark_Link>and how would i add a swap to fstab for /dev/dm-4
02:34<dardevelin>bloopokaybleep, try Ctrl-A Esc
02:34<bloopokaybleep>thanks
02:34<dardevelin>bloopokaybleep, i looked in here -> http://superuser.com/questions/176015/copying-urls-in-irssi
02:34<Dark_Link>as its not there
02:34<bloopokaybleep>I actually realized I should look up how to copy and paste in rxvt-unicode first :-P
02:34<Dark_Link>so how would i have it auto start
02:35<dardevelin>Dark_Link, UUID= the uuid of the thing none swap sw
02:35<dardevelin>thats what i have on mine at least
02:35<dardevelin>not sure if its different
02:36<Dark_Link>so UUID=/dev/dm-4 none swap sw?
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02:36<dardevelin>humm no
02:36<dardevelin>in the actually file inside
02:37<dardevelin>i'll pastebin mine
02:37<dardevelin>one sec
02:37<Dark_Link>just paste your swap line
02:37<Dark_Link>thats all i need
02:37<dardevelin># swap was on /dev/sdd5 during installation
02:37<dardevelin>UUID=5c9412b7-7251-408b-97b2-60b75373ddec none swap sw 0 0
02:37<dardevelin>the 0 0 are after swap and sw
02:38<Dark_Link>:s where would i get the uuid
02:38<dardevelin>Dark_Link, i'm not sure how you use it
02:38<Dark_Link>oh nm it told me when i made it
02:38<dardevelin>but the comment
02:38<dardevelin>blkid
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02:39<jm_>you can also use its label (mkswap -L)
02:39<dardevelin>the comment on the file says to use blkid to print the universally unique identifier
02:39<Dark_Link>UUID=595c635d-e3eb-4def-8148-8ef9e605efff none swap sw 0 0
02:39<Dark_Link>allready got it
02:40<dardevelin>it should be working ok now
02:40<Dark_Link>ya thanks
02:40<dardevelin>yw
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02:40<Dark_Link>time to see it it stays :)
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02:41<dardevelin>bloopokaybleep, i don't know anything about irrsi I just googled so, you might find it if you have patience
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02:41<dardevelin>bloopokaybleep, but here is a guide, not sure if its gonna have what your looking for tough
02:41<dardevelin>http://linuxreviews.org/software/irc/irssi/
02:42<bloopokaybleep>dardevelin, yeah, I think I just need to exercise my google-fu
02:42<bloopokaybleep>thanks for the link though
02:42<dardevelin>bloopokaybleep, yw... Try use + sign usually works for me
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02:43<dardevelin>like how to: irss + copy
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02:43<dardevelin>and if you want to search withing a website this usually works
02:43<dardevelin>www.sitename.com: search
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02:43<dardevelin>it will most likely just give results of that site
02:44<michael>oh wow
02:44<michael>the swap went on but the swap isnt there
02:44<michael>:S
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02:45<dardevelin>Dark_Link, humm, well if it went on, you shouldn't worry
02:45<Dark_Link>ph
02:45<Dark_Link>oh
02:45<dardevelin>but maybe you needed to do sudo gedit /etc/fstab
02:45<Dark_Link>what was the command to set a name?
02:45<dardevelin>to be able to save the thing
02:45<Dark_Link>naa i did it as root
02:45<dardevelin>the command was to get the UUID not to set a name
02:45<dardevelin>blkid
02:46<dardevelin>Dark_Link, this might sound ridiculous but are you sure you hit save ?
02:46<Dark_Link>naa it was the wrong uid
02:47<Dark_Link>lol
02:47<dardevelin>Dark_Link, oh lol, ok
02:47<dardevelin>or honestly you could just add to startup apps
02:47<dardevelin>swapon -a
02:47<Dark_Link>meh
02:47<dardevelin>i think with gksu
02:47<dardevelin>meh ?
02:47<Dark_Link>that just makes it clunky
02:47<dardevelin>Dark_Link, true
02:48<Dark_Link>not good if i lets say add openbox
02:48<Dark_Link>and use that
02:48<Dark_Link>rebooting
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02:48<dardevelin>ok, good luck
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02:52<Dark_Link>works great
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02:53<Dark_Link>/dev/mapper/shadowland-swap_1: UUID="119D-EF3B" TYPE="vfat"
02:53<Dark_Link> << is it to for it to say vfat?
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02:54<Dark_Link>well thanks for your help
02:54<dardevelin>Dark_Link, your welcome
02:54<dardevelin>Dark_Link, my suggestion document the process
02:54<dardevelin>Dark_Link, next time we can just point to someone that
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02:55<Dark_Link>ya i will when i have the time
02:55<Dark_Link>tho
02:55<Dark_Link>this is more like a quick hack
02:55<Dark_Link>its still not right
02:55<Dark_Link>as its still a vfat partition
02:55<dardevelin>Dark_Link, well maybe you can try now delete it
02:56<dardevelin>since its no longer used as lvm partition
02:56<Dark_Link>err its a partition in a lvm
02:56<dardevelin>or, you can for example lets say use a swap file instead of a partition
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02:57<Dark_Link>well hell that would be easer
02:57<Dark_Link>how would i do that
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02:57<Dark_Link>i was under the impression that linux needed a swap partition
02:57<Dark_Link>if you wanted to use a swap file
02:58<dardevelin>how much ram do you have anyways
02:58<dardevelin>i would have to look on how to do it
02:58<Dark_Link>2g on ram 4g on swap
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02:58<Dark_Link>using 112 mb of ram with xchat and gnome
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02:59<dardevelin>http://www.go2linux.org/Swap-memory-increase-with-swap-file
02:59<Dark_Link>thanks ill do that on my open pandora
02:59<dardevelin>nice set
02:59<dardevelin>i can't talk about my ram
03:00<dardevelin>chromium is open
03:00<Dark_Link>ya its a default wheezy setup
03:00<Dark_Link>from a wheezy netinstall
03:01<Dark_Link>very nice i have to say
03:01<dardevelin>i'm debian sid, using the fall back mode, with chromium + 4terminals + rhythmbox + xchat + getting thing gnome + time tracker + kupfer
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03:02<Dark_Link>tryed ubuntu but it crashed a lot :p
03:02<dardevelin>1909 of 3020 of ram and swap of 5896 because i do some stuff
03:02<Dark_Link>and i cant run squeeze
03:02<dardevelin>Dark_Link, i'm on debian sid and it's still more stable then ubuntu :D
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03:02<Dark_Link>lol i know
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03:44<serg>hello! sorry for my english. I have probles with Alsa and Flash player - ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave. http://pastebin.com/df1J9gy0 - aplay output. Audacious player work is fine via Alsa. If a lot of time to restart Opera, everything works fine.
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03:44<serg>I install Alsa from repo and try compile from sources
03:44<serg>dist: squeeze
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03:53<Kharec>hi
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03:55<Kharec>I'm on a debian Sid, and I want to change the default browser. It continues to be epiphany but this last is removed. How can I do it? There's no system>system Applications>...
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03:56<eightyeight>this channel is support for stable only. /j #debian-next
03:58<Kharec>oops thanks.
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04:03<pepe>OLAAA
04:03<wompa>I installed a minimal desktop without recommended packages, now I have partial English in Gnome, how do I change it to my local language?
04:03<pepe>ESPAÑOL
04:03<wompa>!es
04:03<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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04:10<AgentC>Hi
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04:10<bloopokaybleep> hey
04:10<Cristi>Ola
04:11<AgentC>on my squeeze there is bind9 installed, but i dont have need for an own nameserver, when i stop that daemon, the network does not work. how can i uninstall this
04:11<Cristi>kien eres??
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04:11<Cristi>kienes sois?
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04:23<slush>AgentC: in order for your network to work without bind, you need to edit /etc/resolv.conf and put some nameservers from your isp in there. Then you can safely uninstall bind.
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04:24<AgentC>slush: thanx
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04:45<NBBC>C'est bourré d'action ici
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05:00<nocturnal>I want to do something tricky, tar -cf - /dir | genisoimage | cdrskin. I want to burn a directory structure onto a cd, untarred, from a pipe stream. the parts I know work are genisoimage can output the iso data to stdout and cdrskin can read from stdin. but what I can't get working is having genisoimage create iso data with a working directory structure.
05:00<nocturnal>using --stream-media-size I can only create a stream.img on the iso that is a tar archive.
05:00<nocturnal>I assumed --stream-media-size in genisoimage would read the tar data streamed.
05:01<nocturnal>the point is to not create an iso file on the hdd, but to stream directly to the burner.
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05:01<nocturnal>and also the resulting cd cannot have a tar archive on it, it must be a complete directory structure.
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05:09<jm_>nocturnal: genisoimage expects a dir as an argument
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05:13<nocturnal>jm_: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/23453/burning-a-directory-structure-from-a-stdin-pipe/ this will have more info about my issue. I think my first attempt at solving this will be sshfs.
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05:16<jm_>nocturnal: ohh, stupid me - yes this option shall help
05:17<jm_>nocturnal: but the issue is it writes to a file, right?
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05:22<Tuenti>olaa
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05:23<themill>!es-social Tuenti
05:23<dpkg>Tuenti: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
05:23<Tuenti>k dices
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05:24<kid>dada
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05:24<Tuenti>ke daada
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05:38<nocturnal>jm_: I was going the wrong way with --max-stream-size in genisoimage, I was hoping it would somehow unconcatenate the tar stream, but it didn't. so instead I will forget about piping it into genisoimage and instead use genisoimage the traditional way on an sshfs mount.
05:38<nocturnal>I mean stream-media
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05:39<nocturnal>since the goal was to pipe it from the network.
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05:56<Bigman>hello
05:57<Bigman>is anybody there
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05:57<nocturnal>irc is more like e-mail than you might think.
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05:58<nah>just ask, someone will eventualy answer
05:58<Bigman>is it? i thought it was more like IM
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06:28<twinkle>ok
06:29<twinkle>helloooo
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06:32<star>hiii
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06:45<gob_bluth>what's the command to bring up the apt mirrors list as in the install ?
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06:47<jm_>netselect-apt might help
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06:49<gob_bluth>i don't have that
06:49<gob_bluth>my sources.list is messed up, i just need something that points to the squeeze repos
06:50<nocturnal>http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
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06:50<jm_>or just use ftp.debian.org
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06:50<gob_bluth>http:// deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian squeeze main ?
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06:51<gob_bluth>ah thnx
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06:53<jm_>man sources.list has examples too if you need that
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08:19<kaellan_____Guest>dr-willies: 3d worked wen i entered guest acount ... lol ..... compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
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08:20<kaellan_____Guest>that whats compiz sais
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08:21<kaellan_____Guest>and my screen is "unknown" in the display manager wasnt that befor i updated to lastest version of ubuntu
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08:21<kaellan_____Guest>lol wrong channel xD
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08:46<marley67>il y a quelqu'un ,
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08:55<trackpsiconiani>hi
08:55<trackpsiconiani>rejoin
08:55<trackpsiconiani>#debian
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09:22<toni>hi!
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09:24<toni>i have a dhcp server in this configuration: one machine [ dhcp server - physical interface (unnumbered eth0) - bridge interface (numbered) ] - switch - dhcp client
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09:25<toni>the client only gets a lease once i say 'tcpdump -i br0' on the server
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09:56<eshat>The server wiki.d.o is on, is really slow
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09:57<abrotman>such as?
09:57<abrotman>seems okay here
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10:04<eshat>abrotman: well, maybe only logging in is slow
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10:05<abrotman>oh okay
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10:12<chealer>I don't login often, but *some* operations are *reallly* slow indeed
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10:15<alumno-bob>yeah
10:15<SkaziX>hi
10:15<eshat>chealer: abrotman: I guess authentication data is on some internal debian server,.. that might explain it
10:16<eshat>while the wiki paged are hosted at a sponsor
10:16<eshat>*pages
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10:22<chealer>eshat: I don't think so, there is no external authentication possible AFAIK, certainly most accounts are local. these slow requests happen when just editing a page or putting a "bookmark" on recent changes
10:23<eshat>and when logging in, or requesting your password
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10:28<chealer>if you say so. oh, and some operations like getting consultations statistics are just horribly slow. good thing page access is decent, a lot of the rest is painful
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10:29<chealer>oh yeah, MoinMoin is that engine that doesn't use databases...
10:29*chealer suddenly sees
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10:48<jthill>make deb-pkg builds linux-libc-dev to install into /usr/include/asm, but gcc-multilib has that as a symlink to [arch]/asm causing the headers install to fail. I did rm/dpkg -i/mv/ln -s to work around it, but I don't know what the right actual fix should be
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10:49<jthill>(this on wheezy)
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10:50<Juanma>oLAaa
10:50<Juanma>kkk aceeeeeeeiis ?
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10:53<jthill>... whoops, shoulda been in debian-next, sorry
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10:53<jose>olas
10:53<realcynthia>iros a la mierda
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11:18<Uyghur>Ubuntu is cool
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11:18<sney>no it isn't
11:19<jthill>ooh ooh authority fight!
11:19<jthill>:-)
11:19<sney>bow ties are cool
11:20<jthill>gagggh, not after I saw Stewart's crossfire takedown
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12:15<infant>hey
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12:16<infant>hi
12:16<infant>who are you
12:16<infant>#asdf
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14:17<nardev>is there any plan to put goaccess in repos?
14:21<aeb>nardev: what do you mean by "in repos?"
14:22<nardev>:) it's not available in debian repositories
14:22<jhutchins_lt>nardev: You could file a packaging request.
14:22<nardev>i wish i can isntallit with apt-get install goaccess
14:22<aeb>it's definitely in Debian
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14:22<ompaul>,verisons goaccess
14:22<jhutchins_lt>,versions goaccess
14:22<judd>Package: goaccess on i386 -- squeeze: 0.12-1; sid: 1:0.4.2-1; wheezy: 1:0.4.2-1
14:23<jhutchins_lt>So it is.
14:23<nardev>jhutchins_lt, could you give me instructions?
14:23<ompaul>apt-get install goaccess
14:23<jhutchins_lt>nardev: aptitude install goaccess
14:23*ompaul counts the sundays
14:24<nardev>not here http://paste.debian.net/140763/
14:24<aeb>nardev: you have to be on squeeze (the current stable release) at least
14:24<nardev>i'm using lenny Debian 5.0.8
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14:25<ompaul>nardev: it is not available for that, you must be using squeeze (which is stable) lenny being old stable is most likely not going to have anyone interested add it at this point
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14:25<nardev>ompaul, on thnx you all
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14:26<steinex>you could have a look in lenny-backports
14:26<aeb>lenny was released over a year before goaccess had its first release
14:26<ompaul>steinex: the versions would have shown that up
14:27<steinex>ah, i see
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14:27<ompaul>cool
14:28<jhutchins_lt>steinex: Judd usually knows about backports.
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14:31<Cangaceiro>Hi, I have a problem with the microphone in my notebook, with alsa works fine but if I install pulseaudio when I talk you hear a noise similar to a distortion
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15:09<babhe>hi
15:10<babhe>how are U today.,.:D
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15:12<ompaul>slow, we're slow babhe ;-)
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15:13<Black_Prince>and you're not patient. :-/
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15:19<nardev>how
15:19<nardev>to downgrade
15:19<nardev>from squeez to lenny?
15:20<Torsten_W>not possible
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15:32<nardev>is there any way to downgrade from squeez to lenny?
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15:33<Torsten_W>[21:20] <Torsten_W> not possible
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15:38<ompaul>nardev: you are on lenny so what is your problem ?
15:39<ompaul>its an upgrade to go the other way
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15:43<nardev>ompaul, i did upgrade to squeez but i got A LOT OF PROBLEMS
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15:46<ompaul>nardev: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
15:46<ompaul>nardev: apt-get update && apt-get -f install
15:46<ompaul>and stuff like that?
15:46<ompaul>nardev: stopping half way is worse than stopping at the end
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15:48<nardev>ompaul, i have terrible problem now :(
15:48<ompaul>nardev: which is -
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15:50<nardev>ompaul, server down :(
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15:50<ompaul>nardev: then you need to turn it on again - or connect via a terminal
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15:54<nardev>ompaul, mysql is problem
15:54<nardev>ompaul, i can't get it up after i did dist-upgrade
15:55<ompaul>nardev: did you get into th server?
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15:55<nardev>ompaul, yes, i have no problems connectiong via ssh
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15:57<ompaul>nardev: have you completed the dist-upgrade?
15:57<nardev>ompaul, yes
15:57<ompaul>and have you rebooted?
15:57<nardev>ompaul, no
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15:59<Torsten_W>nardev, let me oracle, you have never read the how to upgrade lenny to squeeze?
15:59<ompaul>nardev: you must reboot and the you shoulhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/after-debian-upgrade-from-lenny-to-squeeze-mysql-will-not-start-869846/d read
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15:59<ompaul>Torsten_W: ;-)
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16:00<nardev>ompaul, Torsten_W ok i'll
16:00<Torsten_W>too late
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16:01<shanks>has anyone here 'upgraded' from the virtualbox in squeeze to the one offered on the virtualbox.org site (in deb format) ? Just wondering if it's a simple case of apt-get removing vbox 4 and then apt-get installing vbox 4.1.
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16:04<nardev>ompaul, no changes
16:04<devil>shanks: unstable has 4.1.4-dfsg-1
16:04<ompaul>nardev: and now the link - and there I will leave the rest to you - it is your server you know your tweeks
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16:08<nardev>ompaul,
16:08<nardev>i owe you
16:08<nardev>a MILKA CHOCOLATE
16:08<nardev>:D
16:08<nardev>ompaul, Torsten_W THANK YOU
16:09<shanks>devil: hmm maybe I should just run unstable rather than trying to somehow get these more recent packages on my system. What's the worst that could happen? ;)
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16:09<shanks>or I could just go qemu/KVM..
16:10<devil>shanks: unstable is not for everyone. it takes some skills to maintain it.
16:10<shanks>devil: skills.. or patience/time?
16:10<devil>shanks: patience to get the skills
16:11<shanks>devil: do you have to really understand what's going on with the packages/system to be able to fix issues for yourself?
16:11<devil>shanks: yes.
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16:12<shanks>devil: though I imagine it's a good way to learn Debian GNU/Linux
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16:12<devil>shanks: it is, on a test-install
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16:13<shanks>devil: sounds like I should try running a sid system on a vm for a bit
16:14<devil>shanks: thats a good way as well, yes
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16:14<zuckerberg>join
16:14<zuckerberg>helllo
16:15<zuckerberg>guys
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16:21<shanks>devil: can sid be downloaded via a netinstall or do you have to get stable and then upgrade?
16:21<devil>shanks: sid is not released, so, not downloadable
16:21<devil>shanks: for more questions about sid, please switch to #debian-next
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16:22<shanks>devil: thanks
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16:22<hugoxrosa>help with testing is in debian-next too?
16:22<jhutchins_lt>shanks: I think you'd learn more about Debian and Linux by learning to backport and package things than by dealing with random breakage in sid.
16:22<devil>hugoxrosa: yes
16:22<hugoxrosa>thanks
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16:24<shanks>jhutchins_lt: hmm.. I usually just grab backports I need from squeeze-backports, but hadn't thought of backporting myself. now might be the time..
16:25<jhutchins_lt>!ssb
16:25<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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16:29<shanks>is it better to make my own backport from compiling from sid than to grab the latest .deb from virtualbox.org (since in this case I only want the cleanest way, with regards to my stable system, of obtaining virtual box 4.1) ?
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16:32<jhutchins_lt>shanks: Look at the release notes for each version. Presumably the one packaged by debian maintainers has any debian specific quirks accounted for, but it could also just be a placeholder for patching those quirks towards testing.
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16:32<shanks>jhutchins_lt: Thanks
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16:33<hugoxrosa>Have release policy changed so that it happens faster than used to be?
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16:34<jhutchins_lt>hugoxrosa: What release policy?
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16:36<robson>Hi! Is here anyone who can help me, how can i install kernel in Debian ? (I have to install once) ... ?
16:37<hugoxrosa>Is there some realese policy for stable?
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16:37<hugoxrosa>I just noted that stable releases are happenning faster than before.
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16:39<retrospectacus>robson: what do you mean? Of course you already have a kernel
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16:43<robson>retrospectacus i know. but have to install specific version (2.6.35 for example) and i don't know from what repository get it (Debian Wheezy) because there aren't any 2.6.35 (sorry for my bad english)
16:44<shanks>is the 2x swap space rule of thumb valid even if you have 2GB of RAM?
16:44<jhutchins_lt>robson: Why do you think you need .35?
16:44<jhutchins_lt>shanks: Yes, up to about 4G where you want 1x.
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16:45<retrospectacus>judd: kernels
16:45<judd>Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-2-686-pae (3.0.0-5); wheezy: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-38); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27)
16:45<robson>I need this because one of my devices (tv card AverTV A827) driver need for this device this kernel
16:45<shanks>jhutchins_lt: super.
16:46<robson>can i get this kernel from squeeze-backports ? Even i use Wheezy ?
16:46<robson>*Even if i use Wheezy ?
16:46<shanks>what's the simplest way of installing java on squeeze? doesn't appear to be installed by default. is that because it's in contrib or non-free or something?
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16:46<retrospectacus>robson: if you're using wheezy you should already have the 3.0 kernel
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16:47<tirbo>Yo hey all
16:48<tirbo>Got a question about free DNS domains. Where would they be to get?
16:48<retrospectacus>robson: if not just run apt-get install linux-image-XXX where XXX is 686-pae or amd64 (probably)
16:48<retrospectacus>tirbo: this channel is for Debian support
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16:49<tirbo>retrospectacus: OK sorry, what channel on what server would be then the best for such question?
16:49<tirbo>(Request for redirect)
16:49<retrospectacus>no idea
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16:51<tirbo>Nice time all
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16:56<aaps>#c
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17:02<sylar>anyone know if multiseat work well?
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17:13<Ourobo>is it no longer possible to make multiple partitions on mdraid in the installer?
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17:20<linkage>hello ?
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17:21<retrospectacus>linkage: hi. Do you have a Debian question?
17:21<OpenTokix>Ourobo: yes it should
17:22<OpenTokix>Ourobo: I have only done it with lvm tho.
17:22<ompaul>what was that nice program that attached itself to ttys
17:22<ompaul>or processes
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17:24<linkage>retrospectatus : sorry im just testing because im new
17:25<retrospectacus>linkage: no problem. This channel is for support only though. If you'd like to chat join us in #debian-offtopic
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17:26<linkage>if needed, would i find some help about programming things, like bash tips, etc ?
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17:26<madoo>hi
17:26<retrospectacus>linkage: yes
17:26<madoo>evry one there
17:26<retrospectacus>hi madoo.
17:26<madoo>can i get hellp plz
17:26<madoo>hi
17:26<retrospectacus>!ask
17:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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17:27<madoo>i was have ubuntu 10.10 but i change from term to xubuntu but is nothing change can you tell me why
17:27<linkage>!ask
17:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:28<retrospectacus>madoo: this is #debian.... we do not support ubuntu
17:28<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc madoo
17:28<dpkg>madoo: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
17:28<linkage>sorry :P ok seems pretty cool i wont hesitate then, Thanks
17:28<madoo>debian
17:29<madoo>can you tell me abut some where i can know what the one i use
17:30<madoo>can you plz
17:30<ompaul>madoo: /server irc.freenode.net then do /join #ubuntu
17:31<madoo>where i can do thats
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17:31<retrospectacus>madoo: right there where you are typing
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17:33<madoo>can i ask plz
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17:34<madoo>can i ask plz
17:34<devil>madoo: youneed to join #ubuntu
17:34<retrospectacus>madoo: no. go ask the #ubuntu channel
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17:35<ompaul>madoo: you could just quit start the program again and look for ubuntu not debian eh?
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17:53<netzsooc>window hide
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17:57<netzsooc>btw... is there a way of watching youtube from the cli?
17:57<retrospectacus>I use youtube-dl
17:57<retrospectacus>youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU7qme80jj0
17:58<retrospectacus>...
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17:58<retrospectacus>mplayer bU7qme80jj0.webm
17:59<retrospectacus>I think youtube-dl is only in sid/experimental though.
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18:01<Shibuya>hi, I've been on Ubuntu for 6 months and thinking of switching to Debian. I tried the LiveCD and when I tested watching Youtube my quad CPU hit over 50%, is this typical?
18:01<Shibuya>to be fair, on Ubuntu I have a process called npviewer.bin that sometimes kicks in and takes all of my cpu
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18:02<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: What does the same video take on Ubuntu?
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18:03<Shibuya>about 12% it seems
18:04<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: Most youtube stuff is still flash, and both Debian and Ubuntu would have the same version of the Adobe flash player. Perhaps the live CD was using Gnash, which might be less efficient.
18:04<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: Are you comparing firefox to iceweasel(firefox)?
18:04<Shibuya>yes, that's what it was called
18:04<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: Which what?
18:04<Shibuya>chrome to whatever Debian liveCD had
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18:05<Shibuya>Epiphany or something
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18:06<Shibuya>also I hit a bug with that browser, it wouldn't let me copy and paste into terminal. I googled and it's a known bug, but I thought it was strange that I hit a bug within 5 mins of running a stable version of Debian
18:06<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: It could be epiphany vs chrome then, chrome's probably more efficient, and is available in Debian.
18:06<Shibuya>ok cool
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18:07<Shibuya>any gotchas I should watch out for when I transition to Debian from Ubuntu?
18:07<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: Generally Ubuntu will have what appear to be more recent versions of many packages, but in fact the Debian versions have been tested and patched more.
18:07<Shibuya>yeah, that's why I want to switch :)
18:08<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: You can always make it multi-boot and try that way.
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18:09<Shibuya>thought of that, but currently I only have room on an external USB drive, but the box won't boot if that's hooked up (I have to disconnect it, boot and reconnect). Do you know if that's normal or can I get around it?
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18:12<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: It sounds like it would be more trouble to fix than it's worth. You can resize a partition, an install only takes 4-6G.
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18:13<Shibuya>ext4 is resizable, right?
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18:14<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: Well, anything is resizable if you include backup-repartition-restore as resizing.
18:15<jhutchins_lt>Shibuya: I don't know if gparted does ext4 yet.
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18:16<Shibuya>thanks, I'll research that
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18:17<jordanm>Shibuya: not sure about parted, but e2resize supports ext4
18:18<jordanm>shrinking is possible but not really
18:18<jordanm>"supported". sorry for the extra enter
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18:19<Shibuya>ok, sounds good, I'll check it out. I have room for a full backup, so I can try a resize
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18:21<Shibuya>this page for gparted shows "grow" and "shrink" as available for ext4 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
18:21<Shibuya>so I might try gparted since I'm feeling adventurous
18:21<jordanm>Shibuya: there is much more risk of data loss with shrinking. growing is fairly safe
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18:24<Black_Prince>I have shrinked and grown ext4 partitions without any data losses.
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18:24<netzsooc>is there any way to know which upgrades are those that are going to be upgraded with dist-upgrade?
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18:24<Shibuya>joradnm: Thanks for the warning, I'll be careful!
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18:26<jhutchins_lt>Partition resizing can actually be slower than backup-repartition-restore, and since you want to make a backup first anyway....
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18:28<Black_Prince>Resizing partition from 12 to 6 GB took me less than 10 minutes. (on older hardware)
18:28<Black_Prince>No way you can compare SATA-2 and ATA :P
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18:34<curado>IDENTIFY password curado
18:34<cthuluh>almost
18:34<curado>uhauahuah
18:35<curado>hi
18:35<cthuluh>hi :)
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23:19<ldaniels>Hello everyone
23:21<ldaniels>For some reason I am unable to open image files on my samba server. The image viewer opens but it's blank. Any ideas?
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23:23<JoeKickass>the image viewer doesn't support smb:// uris
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23:25<ldaniels>JoeKickass, Thanks for replying. I have other machines connected to the same server and open use fine with the same image viewer
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23:25<g0rs>does debian support cpu frequency scaling? has anybody tried it?
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23:29<amitz>g0rs: yes, did, don't ask to ask, just ask :-)
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23:30<g0rs>i did try that sometime ago and the cpu governor version was outdated.
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23:31<g0rs>I'll try it again soon . it should be possible i guess
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23:32<amitz>i used older debian.
23:32<g0rs>i've used 5 and 6 , the stable versions so far
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23:41<g0rs>amitz: where did you get that cloak if i may ask?
23:42<amitz>g0rs: it's not a cloak, it's my ip address ;-). you can get ipv6 for free at hurricane electric, last time i checked.
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23:43<g0rs>i know hurricane electric . ive tried that didnt look at it completely
23:43<g0rs>thanks
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