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00:10<giwe>Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/iftop/iftop_0.17-16_i386.deb: Hash Sum mismatch
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00:11<giwe>anyone else getting this Hash mismatch for iftop?
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00:13<OmgItsANoob>cheers for the tips kop :)
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00:14<OmgItsANoob>am looking into it atm ;)
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00:16<tty>giwe, how are you trying to download ?
00:16<giwe>aptitude
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00:16<giwe>tty, aptitude
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00:17<giwe>tty, two different boxes give me the same message. do we have a security breach?
00:18<tty>giwe, doubtful security problem iftop is boring to mess with .. try just a term or shell apt-get install iftop see what happens
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00:18<giwe>tty just a second.
00:19<giwe>tty I'm going to compare md5sum
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00:21<giwe>tty, md5sum match with the one of debian web..
00:22<giwe>Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main iftop i386 0.17-16 [31.6 kB]
00:22<giwe>Fetched 31.6 kB in 7s (4,163 B/s)
00:22<giwe>Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/iftop/iftop_0.17-16_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch
00:22<giwe>E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
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00:23<tty>lol
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01:01<kie27>hiya all, have a strange sound problem (am running debian wheezy), i get the normal sound at the login screen but starting a couple of days ago i no longer have sound once logged into xfce. any help appreciated thanks.
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01:25<metaspike>kie27, could be a problem with xfce-mixer. try changing the sound with alsamixer
01:26<metaspike>could be related to this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=72679, fyi. please direct wheezy questions to #debian-next in the future ;)
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01:45<kie27>metaspike: alsamixer shows the volume settings as 100%, so I assume that it is not that
01:46<kie27>metaspike: thanks i did not know, will post to debian-next in future
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02:27<tsogtbileg>Hello everyone!
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02:27<tsogtbileg>Can I ask a question here? regarding wifi?
02:28<scraze>yes!
02:28<scraze>as long as you're on debian squeeze. :]
02:28<tsogtbileg>yep squeeze all right
02:28<tsogtbileg>the wifi goes down when screensaver is activated
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02:29<tsogtbileg>tried "iwconfig wlan0 power off", but it gives me an error
02:30<tsogtbileg>can provide more info, if needed
02:31<kilelme>ifconfig wlan0 down try this.. maybe can help you
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02:32<tsogtbileg>it does help, i have to do it every time after screensaver was active
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02:33<tsogtbileg>also i've disabled screensaver & suspend, but it helps only when i'm logged in. when someone else logs in with different screensaver settings - again, wlan goes down
02:34<zerog>help
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02:34<zerog>?
02:34<ompaul>!tell zerog about ask
02:34<ompaul>zerog: read the bot's message please
02:35<zerog>sorry, wrong window..
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03:09<metaspike_>alternative to recordmydesktop?
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03:12<tziOm>Is there any command to completely reinstall debian without having to reboot?
03:12<tziOm>I have messes something up.. 6.0.3
03:14<cthuluh>reinstalling isn't the best path to understanding ; you could always try debootstrap on a separate partition
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03:14<jm_>perhaps clarify what
03:14<jm_>(have you messed up)
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03:15<tziOm>Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.2-10) but 2.13-22 is to be installed
03:15<tziOm>"Yes, do what I say!" ...
03:16<cthuluh>are you mixing up debian versions?
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03:16<tziOm>dont know what really happened.. ;) .. but its a remote machine, and its nothing installed on if, just a custom kernel.
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03:16<tziOm>some way to just force all 6.0.3 base packages inn again, and clean up the apt-system?
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03:17<scraze>tziOm: there is no single command to fix your situation but finding out what is causing the problem exactly / resolving the dependencies and getting your package lists & sources straight will go a long way in fixing your system, what exactly does an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade say ? (use paste.debian.net for pastes)
03:17<tziOm>You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
03:17<tziOm>The following packages have unmet dependencies:
03:17<tziOm> libc6 : Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.2-10) but 2.13-22 is installed
03:17<tziOm>E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
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03:18<scraze>tziOm: use http://paste.debian.net for pastes :]
03:18<tziOm>sure, but I tought 4 lines was ok..
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03:18<tziOm>paste is >3 in 0.5 sec?
03:18<benjr>idk what the rule is but i avoid anymore more thne 2
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03:19<scraze>I think the limit here is set to 3 or so
03:19<tziOm>I will keep in mind.
03:19<cthuluh>so... are you mixing up debian versions?
03:20<tziOm>no, sources is clean
03:20<tziOm>I really dont know what caused this.
03:20<jm_>zgrep libc6 /var/log/dpkg.log*
03:20<tziOm>-bash: /bin/zgrep: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
03:20<cthuluh>please also run ''cat /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-cache policy'' and paste the output
03:21<jm_>heh so probably things don't run now -- just check the file manually
03:21<cthuluh>this error doesn't sound fun to me...
03:21<tziOm>http://paste.debian.net/148946/
03:22<cthuluh>I would use ''main contrib non-free', but *shrug*
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03:23<cthuluh>tziOm: please also check what jm_ said
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03:24<cthuluh>then, if aptitude is present, I'd launch it interactively and see which packages are broken and in which way
03:24<tziOm>http://paste.debian.net/148947/
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03:25<jm_>yup 2011-11-29 14:56:30 upgrade libc6 2.11.2-10 2.13-21
03:25<bhuvan>jm_, hi
03:25<tziOm>wonder why it did that
03:25<bhuvan>while playing video in debian sid gdm3 restarts. I am unable to identify the problem. I already asked this in debian-next
03:26<jm_>bhuvan: intel chipset?
03:26<bhuvan>jm_, yes
03:26<jm_>bhuvan: tried this? http://blog.mraw.org/2011/12/11/Fixing_libdrm_for_intel/
03:26<tziOm>so, how can I get apt-get to force 6.0.3 base back in?
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03:27<jm_>tziOm: try reinstalling libc6 from squeeze from a live CD or somesuch
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03:28<bhuvan>jm_, I guess i missed some messages. I accidentally played a video again :(
03:28<jm_>bhuvan: tried this? http://blog.mraw.org/2011/12/11/Fixing_libdrm_for_intel/
03:28<bhuvan>I have the link that you gave
03:28<jm_>bhuvan: no other messages
03:28<bhuvan>:)
03:29<tziOm>how do I install libc 2.11.2-10 then?
03:29<jm_>with dpkg
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03:31<tziOm>then I must download it first?
03:31<jm_>check /var/cache/apt/archives first - it's most likely there
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03:33<bhuvan>jm_, so i should first uninstall the package first and then install the downgraded one using -t testing option in apt-get install. Please correct me
03:33<bhuvan>jm_, regarding libdrm
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03:34<jm_>bhuvan: I would just do it with dpkg or possibly (if it works as per sources.lsite tc.) apt* install foo=version syntax
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03:35<tziOm>what package is /sbin/runlevel located in?
03:36<bhuvan>jm_, ok
03:36<simonlnu>tziOm: dlocate foo or dpkg -S foo
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03:36<simonlnu>!dlocate
03:36<dpkg>dlocate is probably now similar to <locate>, can be used to locate the package a file belongs to; "update-dlocatedb" to update the database to include recently installed files - has similar functionality as dpkg -S, but is faster.
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03:37<tziOm>dpkg -S does not find it
03:37<dpkg>Package: does not find it: Status: install ok installed
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03:37<tziOm>dpkg -S /sbin/runlevel
03:37<dpkg>You Fool! /sbin/runlevel is installed!
03:37<tziOm>no!
03:37<tziOm>fool
03:37<tziOm>;)
03:39<jm_>sysvinit: /sbin/runlevel
03:39<bhuvan>jm_, wow dpkg just worked. thanks a lot
03:39<jm_>bhuvan: no worries
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03:40<tziOm>starting to come back to life here now..
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04:04<sylar>is there a way to know when a process was started?
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04:07<jm_>sylar: yes
04:07<cthuluh>try /proc/$pid/stat (man 5 proc)
04:09<sylar>jm_ how?
04:09<jm_>sylar: see above (ps can also show it)
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04:14<OmgItsANoob>can someone pls excuse the fact that im a linux noob and tell me the command for putty to download and install deluge 1.3.3 for debian pls?
04:15<OmgItsANoob>apt-get is grabbing 1.3.1 :/
04:15<cthuluh>is that a problem?
04:15<th_>hi, i'm using debian squeeze. i need to use the latest version from upstream, unfortunately it's not available on backports.debian.org. the latest version from upstream can be built and run normally. how to properly make the deb package? other than using checkinstall
04:16<melmothX>OmgItsANoob: why do you need exactly the 1.3.3 ?
04:16<th_>preferably also applying the various modification done by the package maintainer to make it a proper debian package
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04:18<OmgItsANoob>@cthuluh yep cos my torrent tracker doesn't allow it :(
04:18<OmgItsANoob>@cthuluh allowed deluge = Deluge 1.2.3, 1.3.2, 1.3.3
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04:21<jm_>th_: see if uupdate helps
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04:22<th_>jm_, thanks for the tip. i'm trying it now
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05:20<ladoga>hi people, I get following warning at boot: cfg80211: failed to add phy80211 symlink to netdev!
05:20<ladoga>any ideas how to fix that?
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05:38<devil>ladoga: what kernel?
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06:13<And1>Hey folks, is it possible to purge gdm3 and use gdm again instead? When I try to 'aptitude install gdm' it says no release candidate found.
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06:14<simonlnu>that should tell you something
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06:23<SynrG>And1: see #debian-next for wheezy/sid support. this channel is for squeeze
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06:28<SynrG>And1: ah, hm. i may have been mistaken in my guess that this is your problem. are you actually on squeeze? if you're seeing 'no release candidate found' maybe your last apt-get update failed due to temporary unavailability of your preferred mirror?
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06:28<SynrG>i see that 'gdm' still exists in all dists
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06:29<SynrG>so regardless of which release you're on you should be able to fall back
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06:30<And1>SynrG: You were right, I'm using sid.
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06:31<SynrG>oh. it is indeed missing in sid.
06:31<SynrG>i didn't read packages.d.o correctly. it's only in one or two stale arches
06:31<SynrG>you know that we're in a gnome3 transition, so all gnome2 components are being wholly replaced
06:34<And1>Hmhmm. It just seems I'm too dumb to change the theme and background in gdm3. Though I did it like written here: http://wiki.debian.org/GDM
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06:38<tziOm>what package provides logsave
06:38<tziOm>and how can I figure that out!?
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06:38<tziOm>some webpage I can search?
06:40<ansgar>tziOm: packages.debian.org or apt-file can search for packages which contain a given file.
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07:39<SynrG>And1: because those instructions are for squeeze, not sid? that's why i referred you to #debian-next
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07:42<SynrG>And1: i haven't done this myself, but the header of /etc/gdm3/greeter.gconf-defaults says that most of the settings are now done via GSettings
07:42<SynrG>so if you were following the old squeeze instructions on the wiki, you might have missed that
07:43<SynrG>also, there is a greeter.gsettings file in the same directory that has the default theme name (Adwaita) in it, only commented out
07:43<And1>SynrG: Oh ok, I see...
07:43<SynrG>presumably you can change that there (or via the gsettings interface)
07:44<SynrG>oops, ECHAN. i see you've joined #debian-next and meant to answer you there :)
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08:24<ladoga>devil: 3.1.0-1-686-pae
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08:25<ladoga>devil: i was AFK for a while, sorry
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08:27<ladoga>devil: the message started to show up after upgrading from 3.0.0-1
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08:31<ladoga>googling around I found this code http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/net/wireless/core.c?a=sh
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08:32<ladoga>it appears there at line 817
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09:16<tittn>hello im having trouble installing wine unstable : libwine-bin-unstable depends on lib32tinfo5 but that lib32tinfo5 breaks lib32ncurses5
09:16<jordanm>,versions libwine-bin-unstable
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09:16<judd>Package: libwine-bin-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.1.35-1
09:16<jordanm>!tell tittn about sid
09:17<tittn>uhm?
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09:17<tittn>im using mint debian
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09:23<blast007>tittn: you'll want to ask the linux mint community then. they have an IRC channel as well as a forum.
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09:25<tittn>ah ok
09:25<tittn>bye
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09:38<grummund>On the basis that i may as well remove un-needed packages rather than apply security updates, is it 'safe' to remove acpi (and acpi-support-base) ?
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09:39<grummund>aptitude should warn if this was a critical package, right?
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09:39<abrotman>grummund: you probably want acpi
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09:40<grummund>sorry, "acpid" is the package name... and it depends upon acpi-support-base.
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09:41<Zaba>there was a security issue in acpid?
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09:41<Zaba>oh, there were
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09:42<Zaba>well, depending on your system and what it's used for, you -might- do just fine without it..
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09:43<grummund>basically an always-on mail/dns/sshd server
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09:45<Zaba>it's probably not really used for anything, then
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09:49<grummund>Zaba: thanks
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10:39<cesurasean>anyone use the new phpmyadmin in squeeze? newest version in there? my config seems to have broke, and not so sure how to debug this. all im getting is this; #1040 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
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10:44<fladi>corosync/pacemaker question, is /etc/insserv/overrides/... the way to go to prevent services like apache2 from getting started at boot because they will later be controlled by pacemaker managing them through /etc/init.d/...?
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10:58<guymell>oi
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11:33<helpme>hi guys and gals! I need help to boot debian
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11:34<helpme>I downloaded debian 6.0.3 (currently "stable") netinstall CD, and installed it
11:34<helpme>but on the time of booting, something weird happens
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11:34<petemc>helpme: what type of machine? how old?
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11:35<helpme>petemc: Power Mac G5 2.3GHz Dual Core, video Quadro FX 4500
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11:35<petemc>you downloaded the ppc version?
11:35<helpme>I tried with video=ofonly kernel arg, but it doesn't help
11:35<helpme>petemc: of course
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11:37<helpme>kernel boots, I see two penguins, some messages scrolling, but then... monitor starts to quake a little, and then screen turns black
11:37<helpme>not monitor, but an image
11:37<helpme>and nothing happens for ~30 minutes
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11:38<helpme>how well is my Nvidia card supported?
11:38<helpme>I'm sure the problem is it
11:38<helpme>I heard that Nvidia have a best support in Linux
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11:43<sney>helpme: it's supported but not with full features, since the official nvidia driver is only available for i386/amd64
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11:44<helpme>sney: but what happens then? why can't I even see login: prompt etc.?
11:45<helpme>is it possible to boot in "single-user" mode and change runlevel to 3?
11:45<sney>it's probably setting itself to a resolution that your monitor can't handle
11:45<helpme>1600x900 is the native res for my monitor
11:45<sney>I'm not familiar enough with the bootloader used with powerpc to say for sure, there's a #debianppc channel
11:46<helpme>here on oftc?
11:46<helpme>ok
11:46<helpme>14 guys incl. me, ooops
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11:47<helpme>sney: also it's impossible, there'd be an internal message from monitor then, it happened before (not on linux)
11:47<helpme>about unsupported resolution
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11:49<Guest20168>hallo
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12:03<gob_bluth>hi, the recent acpid update seemed to have broken my xen install, the startup link for rc2.d doesn't exist anymore for xen. and doing a 'update-rc.d xend start' doesn't create it
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12:11<helpme>is there anyting like "single user mode" (runlevel 2)? I can use it to change default runlevel from 5 to 3... how to boot to runlevel 2?
12:12<cthuluh>you are in runlevel 2 ; single user mode is runlevel 1 ; and I don't think you need to change those
12:12<helpme>cthuluh: how to boot to runlevel 1 then
12:12<helpme>to prevern X.org from loading
12:12<helpme>prevent*
12:13<cthuluh>your grub menu should have entries for that
12:13<helpme>cthuluh: I don't have GRUB, I do have yaboot
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12:13<cthuluh>hah, I don't remember how to set options in yaboot, but basically it's a matter of appending the word "single" to the kernel command line
12:14<helpme>ah okay
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12:14<cthuluh>seems like Linux single instead of the default Linux is enough
12:14<helpme>time to try to boot debian agian...
12:14<helpme>see you :)
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12:28<whozatmac>Hm. baffled by these new systems that don't use xorg.conf.
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12:30<whozatmac>I can't get the native resolution on my monitor. everything I read assumes the server is running a fallback vesa mode, and solves that. I'm running the intel driver. just don't have the reasonable resolution in the settings>display app, or any idea what I should do next to force detection.
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12:31<jhutchins_lt>whozatmac: Wonder why it doesn't detect the monitor correctly. Is it a standard VGA cable?
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12:31<babilen_>!tell whozatmac -about empty xorg.conf
12:31<babilen_>!tell whozatmac -about xorg.conf.d
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12:32<babilen_>whozatmac: That should unbaffle you -- Does "xrandr -q" list the correct resolution? Which Intel GPU do you have (lspci -nn|grep vga) ? Could you paste the output of those commands to http://paste.debian.net ?
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12:32<whozatmac>yeah. standard vga cable. interestingly, when I installed 'debian desktop environment' meta-package from netinstall previously, it all came up in the correct resolution.
12:32<whozatmac>but installing xserver-xorg-video-intel and xfce4-session, i get sh*$t
12:33<whozatmac>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
12:33<babilen>whozatmac: And it *is* using the intel driver? Could you also paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log along with the output of "aptitude search '~i~n^xserver'" ?
12:33<babilen>whozatmac: That is not the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" :)
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12:38<whozatmac>xorg log file in #flood
12:38<whozatmac>aldo aptitude output
12:38<whozatmac>er, also
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12:40<babilen>whozatmac: Nobody is using/in #flood -- Please paste it to http://paste.debian.net
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12:41<whozatmac>http://paste.debian.net/148996/
12:42<whozatmac>http://paste.debian.net/148998/
12:42<whozatmac>that's much cooler than #flood. nice.
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12:43<whozatmac>babilen: looking at xrandr docs as you provoked dpkg to tell me about. probably on the right track there.
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12:43<babilen>whozatmac: Which resolution do you want and what is listed by "xrandr -q" ?
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12:44<babilen>whozatmac: It looks as if it is using 1360x768 - Is that not the desired one?
12:44<whozatmac>nope. 1680x1050 is what we're going for
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12:45<whozatmac>Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
12:45<whozatmac>VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
12:45<whozatmac> 1360x768 59.8
12:45<whozatmac> 1024x768 60.0*
12:45<whozatmac> 800x600 60.3 56.2
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12:45<jhutchins_lt>So.... howcome Xorg.0.log reports ** items supposedly from the conf file when no conf file exists?
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12:45<whozatmac>doops. i guess that's too much flood. sorry. thought id get away with that one.
12:46<whozatmac>thinking xrandr can be a tool to add available modes?
12:47<jhutchins_lt>whozatmac: What model is this?
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12:48<samu11>ciao
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12:48<samu11>!list
12:48<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
12:49<whozatmac>the monitor? cheap naxa tv with built in dvd player hdmi and vga. connected by vga to intel series 4 (dell optiplex 760)
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12:49<whozatmac>is cheap, but also, normally works fine, including with the full debian desktop package.
12:49<whozatmac>not sure what automagic i missed by installing xorg and xfce with apt-get
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12:50<jhutchins_lt>whozatmac: Why are we seeing mac hardware?
12:50<babilen>whozatmac: Please show me the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i vga", "xrandr -q" on http://paste.debian.net -- Do you have *any* xorg.conf{,.d} configuration files in place now? If so paste those too. The output of "get-edid|parse-edid" (get-edid needs to be run as root) is interesting as well.
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12:51<whozatmac>no mac hardware here. definately
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12:51<whozatmac>gathering info for pastebin
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12:54<born2troll>hey is my driver out now?
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12:55<jhutchins_lt>Wonder why all the Macintosh mouse stuff.
12:56<babilen>born2troll: No. You can check yourself on http://backports.debian.org/Packages - Backport them yourself or use those from nvidia.com in the meanwhile. No need to ask every four hours.
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12:59<born2troll>babilen i heared of a open source alternative of my driver. could it work too?
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13:00<babilen>born2troll: nouveau? Most definitely not the nouveau version that is in squeeze, but you'll have to ask #nouveau on freenode about it. They should know in which version they introduced support for your GPU (if at all) -- Don't think 3d acceleration works great with it though.
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13:02<born2troll>babilen i made good experience with a called "experimental open source driver" but im not sure if it was nouveau...
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13:06<nickzxcv>what does it mean when apt-cacher-ng will sometimes allow a file to start to be downloaded then close the connection, and other times respond with 502 Operation not supported? http://pastebin.com/cVeMsAm5
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13:06<alexander_>huhu
13:06<nickzxcv>the files do seem to be in the cache already
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13:14<babilen>... lost in edid
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13:15<born2troll>babilen it does not work... need kernel 3.1 + for that
13:15<babilen>born2troll: *What* does not work? nouveau?
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13:16<born2troll>guys i get a alsa error message ALSA lib pcm.c:7223:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occured it seems to be a bug according to my google. shall i upgrade to backports? can anyone doublecheck?
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13:16<born2troll>babilen yes... i will never remember that word nouveau
13:16<babilen>born2troll: And is that "It does not work" or "It does not work with your kernel and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau as you need at least version X.Y.Z" ?
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13:17<dvaerg>born2troll: sure, try 2.6.39-bpo
13:17<dvaerg>(something i do on almost every system)
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13:17<born2troll>daverg kernel or my alsa?
13:18<born2troll>babilen it does not work with my kernel... i could upgrade to 3.1 but not gonna do
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13:19<babilen>born2troll: Ok. You know your options.
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13:20<born2troll>babilen ye i know
13:20<alexander_>bin m, 19, suche w
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13:20<born2troll>so guys back to my problem with alsa "ALSA lib pcm.c:7223:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occured" what shall i do? upgrade to backports?
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13:21<babilen>alexander_: Wrong channel/network
13:21<dvaerg>born2troll: alsa is part of the kernel, so upgrading to kernel 2.6.39-bpo may be of help
13:21<alexander_>X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*
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13:31<gob_bluth>hi, i need some serious help with insserv, it's absolutely cratering my cluster
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13:32<gob_bluth>it won't recreate the xend rc file in rc2.d so i've made it manually S20xend and now on restart one of our mailservers is just hung on starting auto xen domains
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13:39<jhutchins>gob_bluth: I tend to use rcconf instead of insserv. Did insserv offer any error messges?
13:40<gob_bluth>i have a choice ?
13:40<gob_bluth>i'm just using whatever is default with deb6, i just want my servers to be stable, it's really weird
13:40<gob_bluth>yeah
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13:40<gob_bluth>do you run xen ? on deb 6 ?
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13:45<jhutchins>gob_bluth: There are half a dozen init script managers.
13:46<gob_bluth>well when i ran the acpid update this morning, it used insserv to do stuff
13:46<gob_bluth>damnit debian 5 was so stable :'(
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13:46<gob_bluth>i've been having nothing but probs on this deb 6 migration
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13:53<gob_bluth>anyway, here's the error: insserv xend
13:53<gob_bluth>insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (2) of script `xend' overwrites defaults (2 3 4 5).
13:53<gob_bluth>insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `xend' overwrites defaults (0 1 6).
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13:55<jhutchins>gob_bluth: Looks like a bad script - stop at all levels, start at 2. Could mean a restart depending on the priority number.
13:56<jhutchins>gob_bluth: Is the xen package from debian?
13:56<gob_bluth>yup
13:57<gob_bluth>do you have any systems with a clean xen install ?
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14:05<moebius>hi
14:05<jhutchins>gob_bluth: Nope, no xen here.
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14:05<moebius>can anyone tell me how to make gnome show the date of creation and modification in file info?
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14:05<moebius>if that is even possible..
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14:06<moebius>hmmm
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14:06<moebius>hang on a minute..
14:06<moebius>now it's showing..
14:06<moebius>i don't get it..
14:07<moebius>weird...
14:08<moebius>ah.. now i see
14:08<moebius>it doesn't work for hidden files
14:08<moebius>those that spelled like .fgdfgdfg
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14:08<moebius>actually for folders only
14:08<moebius>yep.
14:09<moebius>so.. why doesn't it work for folders unless i switch to list view?
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14:57<born2troll>guys i ask you again
14:57<born2troll>http://www.pasteall.org/27364
14:57<born2troll>WHAT DO I DO?????
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15:01<born2troll>okey im asking again
15:02<born2troll>WHAT DO I DO????????????????????
15:02<heikkila>stop screaming for starters
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15:08<devil>born2troll: change your attitude for a start
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15:09<tensorpudding_>born2troll, looks like an alsa bug? maybe try googling the alsa error
15:09<devil>stop living up to your nickname
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15:09<Hezad>I don't know there's some kind of correlation between the majs and the nickname :P
15:09<dondelelcaro>devil: that's not really useful
15:09<devil>i jknow
15:09<born2troll>tensorpudding_ thx captain ovious... there is standing "upgrade to sid"
15:10<simonlnu>sid is not an upgrade
15:10<tensorpudding_>so obvious that you haven't yet done it?
15:10<dondelelcaro>born2troll: that's not helpful either. You've got a rather ancient closed source binary which is making odd calls to snd_pcm_recover
15:10<born2troll>tensorpudding_ so ovious that i have done my homework (google) but could not find an answer on my own
15:11<dondelelcaro>born2troll: since it's closed source, there's not much that we can do to help you.
15:11<tensorpudding_>i mean, you're asking for help on a piece of unsupported software, that's giving an obscure alsa error message
15:11<tensorpudding_>the correct place to ask is probably their forums
15:12<tensorpudding_>whatever Urban Terror is, I'm guessing some variety of Linux-ported FPS
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15:12<born2troll>dondellcaro the bug occures too if i start the current version of red eclips (FPS game). the only thing they have in comon is that i installed them in my ~
15:13<born2troll>Tensorpudding_ it occures too on OS games if i execute them in my home dir
15:13<dondelelcaro>born2troll: that may be, but without the source code, it's impossible for us to figure out what is causing it
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15:14<born2troll>dondelelcaro could it be a bug of alsa or pulseaudio?
15:14<dondelelcaro>born2troll: or at least, very difficult. presumably, there's a bug in the quake3 engine that they are triggering.
15:14<dondelelcaro>born2troll: it's possible, but if openarea or similar works, then I doubt it
15:15<simonlnu>try running them without and with pa. might be some work ok with pa, and some with alsa only
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15:15<jhutchins_lt>born2troll: Possibly play around with the audio settings of the game, and search the game forums for clues.
15:15<born2troll>dondelelcaro its not a quake engine bug redeclipse gives the same error... they have in common that that i execute them in my ~
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15:15<simonlnu>born2troll: i don't running them in $HOME will matter much
15:15<dondelelcaro>born2troll: *shrug*; their fora can help you then. Where you're executing it from doesn't really matter
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15:16<mshuler>born2troll: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=613481#15 has a suggestion (I just googled the alsa error..)
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15:19<born2troll>mshuler thx ... the package was installed but the other not removed... i removed... is there any command i need to force the new package in?
15:19<born2troll>GOD IM SO DRUNK -.-#
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15:21<born2troll>mshuler seems to work so far. sry i could not find that solution
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15:22<mshuler>\o/
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15:24<born2troll>mshuler sry im drunk ><
15:24<born2troll>i know i should not drink and root
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16:38<Spike_DE>hi there
16:40<Spike_DE>i would like to get rid of some hisax-boot-messages ("HiSax: if_command 6 called with invalid driverId 0!"). blacklisting in modprobe.d does not prevent the modules from beeing loaded. maybe udev? but how to blacklist hisax and isdn in udev?
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16:40<Spike_DE>devil: hallo :)
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16:42<Droyd>hello
16:42<Droyd>!!!merry christmas for everybody see you soon...kind regard's !!!0_0!!!
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16:43<devil>hi Spike_DE
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16:44<Spike_DE>devil: some hint how to blacklist the hisax and isdn-modules?
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16:45<babilen>Spike_DE: You might have to run "update-initramfs -u" to get the blacklists "in" there as well
16:45<devil>Spike_DE: i never delt weith hisax and friends, but in general /etc/modprobe.d/ is a good place for blacklisting
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16:47<devil>Spike_DE: other than that, for a test-iso, come see us <youknowwhere>
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16:48<Spike_DE>devil: to be exact: i don't know where :) (diese ständigen namensänderungen...) but i would like to test the new iso!
16:48<Spike_DE>babilen: ah, thanx! will try!
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17:54<Thorgrin>Hi, I'm trying to turn on DNSSEC validation with BIND9, but it ends up crashing. Here is the log http://paste.debian.net/149041/ . If anyone has any idea what might be wrong, I would be grateful. I just turned on the dnssec-enable and dnssec-validation options and set managed-keys-directory to same directory as runtime. Also added managed-keys statement.
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17:59<nodiscc>Hi people, did someone manage to actually install and run etherpad/etherpad lite?
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18:40<wondering>can I sync my samsung exclaim and delete contacts before selling my phone/
18:40<wondering>?
18:40<wondering>how would I
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18:42<sney>wondering: you'd need a pim application that's compatible with your phone. don't know what it would be. maybe evolution? google around
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18:44<wondering>thx
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18:46<Deep>how do i put in my kubuntu exactly the same graphics as the latest version of knoppix?
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18:48<daemonkeeper>well, ask those using kubuntu
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19:48<ben>ben
19:48<ben>hi everybody
19:48<retrospectacus>hi ben
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19:49<ben>happy x-mas to you
19:49<retrospectacus>thanks, you too :) what version of Debian are you using and how is it working for you?
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19:53<ben><retrospectacus> a nice name , deb amd 64 and I work from Europ
19:54<retrospectacus>ben: great, well this channel is for Debian support so if you have any problem please ask
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19:58<ben>I wish you all a happy xmas , tghis was a mini test , many thanks bybyby and oao
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20:48<gap>hi
20:49<gap>hi astra
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21:19<flo>why gdm3 ?
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21:52<th_>hi, i'm using debian squeeze. i want to rebuild the latest version of a package. it's available on http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/. unfortunately, i can't find how to integrate the source code on anonscm to the one downloaded via apt-get source and build the .deb. would you please enlighten me in this endeavour to debian nirvana?
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22:26<ghosTM55>!aptitude
22:26<dpkg>methinks aptitude is a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude docs> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude or http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
22:27<RIVE>!why not aptitude
22:27<dpkg>Aptitude is more memory intensive and slower than <apt-get>, the <ncurses> interface is always loaded regardless of being used or not. Moreover the resolver can sometimes produce unexpected results and most of <aptitude>'s former exclusive features are now available in <apt-get> as well. Ask me about <why aptitude> and see http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
22:27<RIVE>!why aptitude
22:27<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
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22:28<greedy>having trouble using devede anyone care to help ?
22:28-!-greedy is now known as Guest20218
22:28<Guest20218>having trouble using devede anyone care to help?
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22:33<retrospectacus>!ask
22:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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22:35<posner-derrick>the software center isnt working for me
22:35<posner-derrick>how can i fix it?
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22:35<Guest20218>I have a problem with devede, im running debian squeeze , i have no idea how to use the program to burn a file to dvd that will work in any dvd player.
22:36<posner-derrick>see if there is an option to create a new video project
22:37<Guest20218>yes
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22:37<posner-derrick>use that option when creating your dvd
22:37<posner-derrick>and it should work on as normal everyday dvd player
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22:40<Guest20218>theres an error though, and im not sure which options i should have ticked
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22:41<posner-derrick>can i try remote desktop to your computer it will be much easier and i can have you fixed in a matter of minutes
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22:43<Guest20218>hmmm hold on.
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22:44<sney>Guest20218: fyi, posner-derrick is not an official debian support person or anything... you'd just be letting a stranger on the internet use your computer
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22:46<posner-derrick>No I AM Not But I Am A Geek Squad Employee.
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22:47<sney>no comment.
22:48<padski>I'm trying to install to install squeeze from a cdrom on an old Dell GX240. At the "Starting the partitioner" prompt it stalls at 50% scanning disks. I've taken a quick look at the /bin/partman script, but I could do with any help I can get figuring out what is happening and what to do?
22:48<padski>there is a /lib/partman/init.d/30parted script in the process table ...
22:49<th_>hi, i have a problem with dpkg-buildpackage. i'm using debian squeeze. when i try to do dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc I get the following output dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no orig.tar file found. i get the source from http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/. i expected it to build a .deb.
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22:49<sney>padski: is the hard drive known good? sometimes that will stall on bad hardware, and I remember doing a lot of HDD swaps on GX240s
22:50<retrospectacus>and motherboard swaps
22:50<sney>th_: packaging questions are best answered in #debian-mentors
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22:50<sney>retrospectacus: aye
22:50<th_>ok, sney
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22:51<padski>sney, there is a good possibility that this disk had problems, but I was able to get a partition table using fdisk from the rescue disk option of the same cdrom, and I have not yet noticed any disk errors in the log on F4
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22:52<sney>padski: if you have a diagnostic cd around (or a blank cd and www.ultimatebootcd.com) run an actual diagnostic on the disk before you go further
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22:52<sney>nothing's worse than fighting with d-i for hours only to discover your kit is broken
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22:54<padski>sney, I could partition using fdisk from the rescue disk. Is there a way I can skip this stage of parted to continue the install? looks like I need to go through it to put together fstab
22:55<sney>padski: expert mode will let you skip steps
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22:55<sney>though.. you may be right on the fstab thing
22:55<sney>there's also debootstrap if you want to try installing into a chroot from a livecd
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22:56<padski>sney, yes. but I am on a mobile phone connection, so I will be trying to avoid downloading a livecd :-) I have a nicely setup usb flash disk that I wish I had with me ...
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23:01<padski>sney, thanks for your help, and being a shoulder to cry on :-) I expect I'll find a way in the end, but I think I'll give up for the night in a minute :-)
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