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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-01-23

---Logopened Mon Jan 23 00:00:10 2012
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00:07<l0000>good afternoon debian fans :)
00:07<deb1an>:)
00:08<l0000>just q aquick question.how to minimize the box like decrease the graphic or just like xforce with less graphic use?im using latest lenny desktop debian and i only have 1gb ram.spec is lenovo laptop.
00:10<l0000>im using gnome and when i browse using iceweasel, it hang and slow the performance
00:11<l0000>i forgot the term.i think its xforce.less environment
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00:20<l0000>thanks
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00:38<jasonsmr>hello channel >> I did using debootstrap;; And trigger post install scripts from a different arch on non debian system
00:38<jasonsmr>Rather How can I trigger post install scripts from a different arch on non debian system
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01:14<kalor>Anybody know of any ebook reading software for the terminal, preferably with EPUB suppourt?
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03:28<zig>hi
03:29<heikkila>hi
03:29<zig>What is different between debian sid and aptosid? what is better and why?
03:30<jm_>!aptosid
03:30<dpkg>aptosid (formerly sidux) is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid. It is not supported in #debian. http://aptosid.com/ #aptosid on irc.oftc.net.
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03:30<zig>yes i know its not suported on this channel... but woudl like what is better of yours opininions
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03:32<zig>I saw that they make some nice programs like ... cine ... (it isnt in debian repo) and they said that with full secoure can you aptitude upgrade when im on aptosid without problems with broken dependies...
03:32<zig>so aprosid is better than debian sid? more stable?
03:34<jm_>it's better to ask in the aptosid channel
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03:58<wferi>Hi! I've just upgraded a machine from lenny to squeeze, and things are generally good.
03:59<wferi>What I don't understand: if I aptitude install --without-recommends deborphan,
03:59<wferi>I get a warning, that an untrusted version of deborphan is going to be installed
04:00<wferi>If I just aptitude install deborphan, no such warning is given
04:01<wferi>I've got debian-archive-keyring 2010.08.28 installed
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04:02<wferi>this probably isn't specific to deborphan, I got a similar message for another package earlier (with --without-recommends), but I thought things would unwrinkle eventually...
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04:05<jm_>perhaps check BTS or submit a bug
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04:21<user_>hello
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04:54<project2501a>in a world full of competent sysadmins and programmers, why do you need enterprise support?
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04:55<project2501a>Debian; I'm just sayin'
04:55<project2501a>i am *so* going to film and air that.
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05:15<achris1967>hi all how is everyone
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05:20<achris1967>im looking to learn how to run Ubuntu 11.10 where do i find the best info on that
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05:20<deansu>!ubuntu
05:20<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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07:07<s4br3>I tried to install the latest Debian wine from winwhq as I have always done, but for the first time I get 'Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "<package>"'. Has anything changed in Debian with respect to wine?
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07:10<st_prg>Hi all, I recently got a new monitor and installed it whilst on Windows. I just came back to linux after too long from my Debian install and I have found my monitor resolution is at 1024x786, where it should be 1280x1024. I have tried adding a modeline as outlined in this forum post to no luck: http://bit.ly/eAkRwo
07:11<jm_>check your X org logfile
07:11<s4br3>st_prg: what GPU?
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07:12<s4br3>ok, Integrated Graphics Controller
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07:13<st_prg>s4br3: nVidia GeForce inbuilt
07:13<st_prg>jm_: Pasting output now
07:14<st_prg>jm_ http://paste.debian.net/153312/
07:14<jm_>st_prg: are there really only 15 lines in it?
07:15<st_prg>jm_: No, I used the tail command
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07:15<jm_>st_prg: that stuff will be somewhere in the middle
07:15<jm_>but I suspect it uses vesa driver
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07:15<st_prg>Ok I will paste the whole file, one second please.
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07:16<st_prg>jm_: http://paste.debian.net/153314/
07:17<s4br3>st_prg: What is the max resolution for the xorg drivers? I thought it was 1156xsomething
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07:17<st_prg>I'm not sure but it was working on 1024x1280 on my last monitor no sweat.
07:18<s4br3>An hdmi issue?
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07:19<st_prg>I'm not connecting with hdmi
07:19<st_prg>Im using a dsub data cable however it has never been an issue before this monitor.
07:19<st_prg>Literally the only thing that has changed is the monitor. It worked fine on the other monitor.
07:20<jm_>st_prg: is it in graphical mode before starting X?
07:20<st_prg>jm_: Unsure...
07:20<st_prg>How do I know?
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07:20<st_prg>I thought X needed to be started before any GUI elements were displayed?
07:21<s4br3>Your EE and some googling for FBIOPUTCMAP
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07:22<st_prg>s4br3: What is that supposed to mean?
07:22<s4br3>"(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument"
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07:23<s4br3>I meant that one can google for that line
07:24<jm_>st_prg: check resolution as shown by monitor via OSD, it's also usually recognizable due to smaller font size as opposed to old 80x25 text mode
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07:25<st_prg>OSD, what do you mean by that?
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07:26<st_prg>Ah - found it. I only have language, h/v-position, [menu] transparence and [menu] display time. Never mind though, it seems I have found the answer on debian forums.
07:26<st_prg>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
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07:27<st_prg>Maybe not. 'The selected configuration for displays could not be applied'. 'Could not set the configuration for CRTC 262'.
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07:27<jm_>!osd
07:27<dpkg>methinks osd is on screen display
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07:29<babilen>st_prg: Which GPU do you have? (lspci -nn|grep -i vga) -- Which driver do you use? Which Debian release? Could you run "/usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-core/script 3>&1" as root and paste the result to http://paste.debian.net ? It might be easier to redirect it to a file and paste that using pastebinit.
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07:34<jm_>it's visible from his paste: PCI:*(0:0:13:0) 10de:03d0:1458:d000 nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] rev 162
07:34<st_prg>babilen: I can not get the data to write to a file. It will not all display in terminal.
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07:34<st_prg>as for the lspci command, the output is here: http://paste.debian.net/153316/
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07:37<jm_>st_prg: you can also try with a newer kernel
07:37<st_prg>jm_: 2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64
07:37<st_prg>That is my current one
07:37<haylo>i am finally using debian. Its been a long road to get here but i am very glad. I am having some problems with sound on the laptop.It is in the gnome desktop
07:37<jm_>st_prg: ahh indeed, it says so in the log, I guess not then :)
07:37<haylo>if you guys have any ideas great- if not il figure it out
07:38<babilen>st_prg: Run "/usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-core/script 3 > xorg_bug_script_output" as root and paste that. Which driver do you use?
07:38<st_prg>I believe it is the vesa driver however can not be sure.
07:39<st_prg>/usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-core/script: 19: 3: Bad file descriptor
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07:39<babilen>st_prg: Err, make that "/usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-core/script 3>xorg_bug_script_output"
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07:39<babilen>st_prg: So you did not install the nvidia driver?
07:39<jm_>st_prg: no, it's not vesa, it looks to be noveuau
07:40<st_prg>babilen: http://paste.debian.net/153317/
07:40<st_prg>I have not touched the driver since installation.
07:41<jm_>maybe it's this: ouveau 0000:00:0d.0: unknown connector type: 0xff!!
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07:42<jm_>but later on it says CRTC so perhaps not
07:42<babilen>st_prg: Ok, I would recommend to install the nvidia drivers -- Installation and configuration instructions can be obtained with "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" for standard squeeze installations. As you use a backported kernel you have to make sure that the kernel headers for *that* kernel are installed as well (from bdo) and it might be good idea to pull the nvidia driver from backports as well. Please ping if something is unclear! :)
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07:43<haylo>The installer said i the laptop needs some non free components, does this sound like why the sound might not work? debian installer seems very nice
07:43<st_prg>ok thanks babilen, will try that.
07:43<jm_>haylo: what exactly is the problem? did you try speaker-test in a terminal?
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07:44<tosted>i ve seted up a newmode to xserver by Xrandr, now i need to know how always load X with that new mode like preferred and constant in debian?
07:45<babilen>st_prg: I guess that all you have to do is to add the "-t squeeze-backports" option to the aptitude command in that factoid, but I haven't verified that. DKMS will compile the module and report success/failure at the end.
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07:45<haylo>read out from speaker-test seems identical to the one i have on my crunchbang debian knock off system jm_
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07:47<ayaka>I'm configing bind, if I use a domain sumomo.pri as a locol net domain,does I need change /etc/bind/db.root?
07:47<jm_>haylo: well does it work? do you hear sound?
07:48<haylo>i havent installed much on the system- when i open gnome-mixer it doesnt give me all the options. Also i am not getting all the options for manipulating the login screen under system > administration > login window
07:48<jm_>try alsamixer instead
07:48<petemc>ayaka: no, you dont need to touch that
07:48<haylo>i hear it in the control machine
07:48<ayaka>petemc, but pri is a real root domian doesn't it?
07:49<haylo>well the crunchbang machine
07:49<haylo>aptitude install alsamixer ?
07:49<petemc>ayaka: create a file like /var/cache/bind/db.sumomo.pri , configure it in /etc/bind/named.conf/local
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07:49<petemc>ayaka: i have never heard of .pri
07:50<petemc>that should be /etc/bind/named.conf.local
07:50<ayaka>petemc, I get this example for IBM teconlogy web
07:50<haylo>jm_, no
07:50<petemc>ayaka: you're free to do whatever you want of course, im just telling you what works for me
07:51<st_prg>brilliant! Thanks heaps babilen!
07:51<jm_>haylo: check which cards it lists : cat /proc/asound/cards
07:51<babilen>st_prg: That solved it?!?
07:51<st_prg>Yes!! Thanks heaps! :D
07:51<ayaka>petemc, I see,I just say it
07:51<babilen>!congratulate st_prg
07:51<dpkg>Good show st_prg, you did it!
07:51<babilen>st_prg: Enjoy :)
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07:52<st_prg>haha thanks.
07:52<st_prg>See ya :)
07:52<petemc>ayaka: zless /usr/share/doc/bind9/README.Debian.gz
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07:52<ayaka>petemc, thank you
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07:57<haylo>jm_ 2 lines in proc/asound/cards: 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
07:58<haylo>and: HDA Intel at 0xfc800000 irq 22
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07:58<jm_>haylo: all looks fine, check mixer levels/mute status in alsamixer
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08:00<haylo>is there a different name for alsamixer? aptitude is saying it doesnt have a package by that name. I dont have the original repo file :(
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08:02<jm_>it's in alsa-utils package -- '/msg dpkg search' to learn how to find packages based on file/command names
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08:04<haylo>ok sounds like thats what i need to be learning to do then
08:04<haylo>well thats why i went ahead and installed debian- when i saw somethin in the debian website about how it was kind of made to make you learn
08:05<haylo>you know give a man a fish and all
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08:10<m2s>hallo
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08:13<mjt>something's loading iptables modules during system startup, and it looks like it was a recent-enough addition on my system. It happens at the very end of boot process. What can it be?
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08:47<mercutio22>Hi
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08:50<hbbs>hi
08:50<hbbs>I am trying to mount an nokia e7
08:51<hbbs>However gnomes filemanager is in my way
08:51<hbbs>i can see files and such but i need to dd the entire filesystem to my computer
08:51<hbbs>i cannot see the phone in /media
08:51<hbbs>any suggestions?
08:51<mercutio22>I've been using the nvidia proprietary drivers on my desktop. I'd like to give nouveau a try. I tryied removing xserver-xorg-video-nvidia and installoing xserver-xorg-video-nouveau. Also edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver session to say "nouveau"but that didn't do it. Maybe someone can point me to a good tutorial?
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08:52<hbbs>when i hover the bookmark "e7-00" it shows a tooltip beginnign with "gphoto://..."
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09:14<amineF>hello every one
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09:14<amineF>need some help with monitoring a server power supply using snmp
09:15<amineF>any idea please ?
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09:15<ayaka>amineF, I prefer nagios
09:16<amineF>Hi ayaka ;) i know that but nagios uses nrpe
09:16<amineF>i need a solution based on snmp
09:17<amineF>i have trouble finding the right mib for that
09:17<ayaka>amineF, yes,but snmp sometime cause security problem
09:18<amineF>yes thats true with version 1 and 2c but version 3 supports encryption
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09:21<ayaka>amineF, I don't know much about that
09:21<amineF>:)
09:21<ayaka>!snmp
09:21<dpkg>The Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) is a standard for managing devices on IP networks. http://wiki.debian.org/SNMP
09:21<amineF>no problem thanks any way ayaka
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09:22<amineF>dpkg, :)
09:22<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, ) is the smile part of a face.
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09:23<amineF>well been there and i have done that kind of reading
09:23<amineF>i looking for more specific solution for my problem
09:23<amineF>thanks any way dpkg
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09:25<mjt>amineF: dpkg is a bot, FWIW
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09:57<tata>I try to install older debian 3.0 on old pentium 233Mhz, and after instalation stop here: myname@debian:~$, what now?
09:57<weasel>now you have installed an ancient debian, logged on, and have a shell.
09:59<tata>I am login with my user and password, but show me this
10:00<tata>i am still in something like DOS
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10:04<pieter>does anyone know how i can enable the front audio port on my pc?
10:04<gruetzkopf>tata, thats called a shell
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10:04<pieter>in debian that is
10:04<gruetzkopf>get debian 6 and install it.
10:05<pieter>no ty
10:05<gruetzkopf>XFCE or LXDE
10:05<gruetzkopf>was talking to Tata
10:05<blake>3.0 probably didnt install any X Windows. Grab 6.0 and try again.
10:05<tata>what is a shell?
10:05<blake>Sheel is like DOS.
10:05<tata>6.0 for old pent???
10:06<gruetzkopf>we are no ubuntu
10:06<blake>It's where every thing runs from.
10:06<blake>Sure!
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10:06<gruetzkopf>i have debian 6 even with gnome running perfect on m Thinkpad 600
10:06<gruetzkopf>PII 233MHz
10:07<tata>yes pent 2, 233mhz
10:07<babilen>tata: You probably want to install a graphical environment -- That can be achieved during the initial installation by installing the "desktop" task or afterwards by either "tasksel install desktop" or by following "/msg dpkg install x" and "/msg dpkg install gnome" (assuming you want gnome)
10:07<tata>196Mb RAM
10:07<gruetzkopf>plenty
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10:08<gruetzkopf>i have 72 MiB of used Ram on this laptop here when freshly booted
10:08<blake>This isnt window. Yet You wont run Gnome 3 bur you can run any window manager.
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10:08<babilen>tata: Oh, 3.0 -- No idea (the instructions are also most likely not applicable to 3.0) -- Regardless of that you want to install X (was it xfree86 back then? or already Xorg?) and a window manager/desktop environment.
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10:09<babilen>tata: Why are you running 3.0? I would recommend to run Squeeze (6.0) with a light-weight window manager such as fluxbox.
10:10<tata>ok, but my old pent has a serial mouse, not ps2, not usb
10:11<babilen>tata: Take a look at inputattach
10:11<babilen>,info inputattach
10:11<judd>Package inputattach (utils, extra) in squeeze/i386: utility to connect serial-attached peripherals to the input subsystem. Version: 20051019-12; Size: 14.3k; Installed: 68k
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10:13<tata>fine, but i am in sheel what to type?
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10:15<Bushmills>!cli
10:15<dpkg>[cli] Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around. See http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6282&page=1 or ask me about <general cli tutorial>. Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's ODBC standard. Common Language Infrastructure, ask me about <mono>.
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10:15<Bushmills>tata: ^^^
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10:17<tata>no previous substitution
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10:18<Bushmills>i liked icewm on my 50 MHz 486
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10:19<Bushmills>though the Trident SVGA sucked, the Tseng Labs ET4000 was much better
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10:20<tata>ok, what debian version to install on pent 2, with serial mouse?
10:20<Bushmills>how big a harddisk?
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10:21<OpenTokix>Like two decks of cards.
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10:22<tata>6 gb
10:22<tata>GB
10:22<Bushmills>that's huge :)
10:22<tata>and RAM is 192MB
10:22<Bushmills>i'd go for stable.
10:23<gruetzkopf>60
10:23<Bushmills>you don't really benefit from the current kernels, but they should still be allright
10:23<gruetzkopf>6GiB
10:23<tata>but my problem is, serial mouse it is no supported
10:23<gruetzkopf>it is
10:23<Bushmills>sure it is
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10:24<mjt>are there serial mouses still?
10:24<tata>ok, on com2
10:24<mjt>for serial mouse you most likely need xorg.conf
10:25<mjt>um. no
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10:25<mjt>should just work with kernel event layer
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10:26<Bushmills>i booted from a relatively revent live cd, xorg, on an old system with serial mouse, and there was nothing i had to do to get it running. not that i would have done so, but still noticed that it worked
10:26<tata>is it possible to run debian only with keyboard ( I never can wit ubuntu, mint...)
10:26<Bushmills>just a few weeks back
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11:49<zaikxtox>hi. question about nfs. I have 4 debian servers. 3 are nfs clients and the fourth the nfs server. when i need to make some maintenance to the nfs the other 3 lose connection. when the 4th is back... the nfs mounts are hanging. df, ls or any command on them get's hanged and can't be killed
11:49<zaikxtox>what approach is more standard to handling that issues?
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11:58<jose>ola juliann
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12:00<Bushmills>zaikxtox: i use autofs with nfs, and short auto-umount times
12:02<zaikxtox>Bushmills, readed a bit about that. it's stable for production environments? I where fooled into thinking that was for desktops
12:02<Bushmills>others may suggest using coda instead of nfs
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12:03<Bushmills>autofs is not a recent invention, and has been inspired by similar technology on other platforms. i'd say it is stable.
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12:03<zaikxtox>perfect. i think i will try to make them work with autofs
12:03<zaikxtox>and investigate coda later
12:03<zaikxtox>:)
12:03<mahdi>hi
12:03<zaikxtox>thanks a lot Bushmills
12:03<Bushmills>np
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12:17<I_am_NOT_root>how do I instruct cut to yield the last field? I need it to get a filename's extension (need an appropriate substitution for <last> "cut -d. -f<last>"
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12:24<Bushmills>sed "s/^.* //
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12:24<Bushmills>"
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12:25<Bushmills>ah. substitude space against escaped dot
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12:25<Bushmills>..itute even
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12:45<lancelot_of>any graphical interface to report bugs?
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12:46<ansgar>lancelot_of: reportbug has an optional Gtk interface.
12:46<lancelot_of>ansgar,
12:46<lancelot_of>how to enable it?
12:47<lancelot_of>or is there any specific command?
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12:48<ansgar>lancelot_of: reportbug --ui=gtk2 I guess. I have never used it myself.
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13:03<I_am_NOT_root>Bushmills, sorry, I am running this in a VM and it crashed instantly after I have seen that you have written some sed command. Can you please write it again or are there logs?
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13:04<Bushmills>sed "s/.*\.//"
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13:05<Bushmills>did it crash again now?
13:05<I_am_NOT_root>yes
13:05<Bushmills>lucky me
13:05<I_am_NOT_root>:)
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13:17<tata>how to configure debian net install for serial mouse?
13:19<dondelelcaro>tata: you don't need a mouse working to install Debian... but that said, you most likely will have to just install inputattach, and things will "just work"
13:20<dondelelcaro>however, serial mice are kind of ancient...
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13:21<FatCat>i'm trying to configure my dnsmasq to resolve all *.onion addresses via the DNS service I start with TOR and bound to 127.0.0.1 :\
13:21<FatCat>server=/onion/127.0.0.1
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13:22<FatCat>does not seem to do the job :(
13:22<peppe>!list
13:22<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
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13:24<luke>can any1 help me
13:25<grove>!tell luke about ask
13:25<luke>i cant share files on my system
13:26<grove>luke: There are many kinds of file sharing, please be more specific
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13:26<Bushmills>luke: you can give your login to others, for sharing files
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13:27<luke>i am running xbuntu i want to share files between my desktop and mu ubuntu laptop but i have no options to share my files i want to copy my files over ??
13:27<grove>(and for 99% of the meanings I can't help)
13:27<grove>!tel luke about ubuntu
13:27<grove>!tell luke about ubuntu
13:27<Bushmills>luke: do you also have a question related to debian?
13:27<luke>sorry i on the wrong one sorry
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13:28*Bushmills seems to notice some correlation between "anyone?" and "i'm using ubuntu"
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13:31<daemonkeeper>Bushmills: What did you calculate for ϱ(P("anyone"), P("Ubuntu"))?
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13:35<Bushmills>input set is yet too small, as far it's more an impression that there is
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13:37<tata>so i understood it is automatical supported serial mouse
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13:42<Bushmills>installing gpm may help but shouldn't be needed - it should give you support for mouse in console, and make it unnecessary to specifically configure xorg for serial mouse, if needed at all.
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13:42<Bushmills>easier to test mouse, anyway.
13:43<tata>but how to open console if serial mouse not work?
13:43<Bushmills>"open console"? you log in, using keyboard
13:44<kop>!vt
13:44<dpkg>rumour has it, vt is Virtual Terminal, like the console; change VTs using Alt+Left/Right or Alt+F1, Alt+F2 etc. To get from X to a VT, use Ctrl+Alt+F1 (and Alt+F7 to get back, most likely). You can also use "chvt" to switch VT. VT is also used to mean Intel VT-x or VT-d (virtualization support; the AMD counterpart is called AMD-V or Pacifica), ask me about <xve>.
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13:45<shalowhal76>old dell dimension 4600 3.0ghz x2 , 1000 RAM pc 3200 , agp radeon 512mb. after upgrade to BUNT 11.10 noticeable change some good some bad
13:45<kop>!tell shalowhal76 about ubuntu
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13:46<shalowhal76>like i said i have my likes and dislikes
13:46<tata>thanks
13:46<shalowhal76>seems to need more ram
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13:47<lp>anyone using squeeze on a dell vostro 260? any problems?
13:47<shalowhal76>bunt 9.10 screamed on this box
13:47<kop>shalowhal76: This is a debian support channel. You want the channel for ubuntu per the bot's private message.
13:47<kop>!tell lp about anyone
13:47<shalowhal76>whatever
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13:47<Bushmills>shalowhal76: nobody cares here
13:48<shalowhal76>so what is this room exactly/
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13:48<Bushmills>debian support
13:48<shalowhal76>ok
13:48<shalowhal76>debian?
13:48<sney>!debian
13:48<dpkg>from memory, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
13:48<shalowhal76>i know
13:49<shalowhal76>im just saying
13:49<Bushmills>ah, you indicated that you managed to read that word, by repeating?
13:49<shalowhal76>same page difrnt book
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13:50<shalowhal76>debian flavor seems to be taking of f in this day and age .
13:51<shalowhal76>i like debian
13:51<Bushmills>that's why you run ubuntu :)
13:51<shalowhal76>as aposed to what?
13:52<shalowhal76>i like fedora a little
13:52<Bushmills>do you also have a question, related to debian?
13:52<shalowhal76>lots
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13:53<shalowhal76>later fools
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13:58<simonlnu>'aposed'?
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14:05<Notan>I seem to be having troubles with flash and ALSA/gstreamer (not sure which). Whenever I'm using anything in flash, the sound in anything else won't work and vise-versa
14:06<jhutchins_lt>Notan: Complain to adobe.
14:07<Notan>For some reason I didn't have this problem before and then an update or something started it, but I had the same problem a long while back in Ubuntu, and I couldn't get that working either
14:08<Notan>Just checked, and it seems to be whenever any two things are using sound
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14:28<jhutchins>Didn't have the problem before or didn't notice it before?
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14:28<jhutchins>It could be a limitation of your hardware.
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14:28<jhutchins>alsa is supposed to be able to compensate for that though.
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14:29<jhutchins>Talkin' to myself again.
14:29<heikkila>yay
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14:36<cloudm33>Hello everyone.
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14:37<cloudm33>I wanted to test a Compiz Fusion. I added a a new "configuration" text into xorg.conf, but... but if i add, the GNOME stop the working.
14:37<cloudm33>Roftl. I don't know what is bad.
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14:39<jhutchins>cloudm33: http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz
14:39<shaun_>Does anyone know how you disable kernel messages that flood the console? On Sarge I believe there was a klogd.conf or some such. I've tried dmesg -n1 but that's not worked. Plus won't be there when I reboot
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14:40<cloudm33>I read'ed.
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14:41<cloudm33>I'm want only to test the compiz, and delete it with purge... Or stay with it. I'm using Linux for programming, not for "watching" the effect's.
14:41<cloudm33>Hmm...
14:41<Bushmills> /etc/sysctl.conf
14:42<cloudm33>jhutchins, this site mean's i must delete the section's and add new, or just add new?
14:42<Bushmills>shaun_: ^^^
14:42<jhutchins>shaun_: Generally what you do is fix whatever's causing the messages.
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14:42<jhutchins>cloudm33: All I know about compiz is that the bot has a factoid with that URL.
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14:43<shaun_>jhutchins: absolutely. but in this case I spent a few hours trying to do that. I'm getting lots of nf_ct_ftp dropping packet errors. my FTP application is still working and I'm unable to find the root cause of the connection tracking modules problems
14:43<shaun_>Bushmills: thanks
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14:43<shaun_>jhutchins: It seems to occur, according to what I've managed to glean so far from the web, when there are partial FTP command matches
14:43<Bushmills>cloudm33: don't change xorg - unless you're enabling glx. start xorg with an xterm, then rund the one or other window manager/DE from that
14:44<cloudm33>hmm
14:44<cloudm33>K.
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14:44<cloudm33>But this wiki say this... Backup's are usefull thing's, really.
14:45<Bushmills>then do what the wiki says, if you prefer that
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14:45<cloudm33>Ehh. Or - i don't changing the xorg, all is working, but effect's are not-working. I'm "stable OS fan", but i'm like to test app's.
14:46<cloudm33>I tested most distro's :D Lol, changing DVD and installing a few OS per day...
14:46<cloudm33>I'm at Debian Squeeze with GNOME 2.30
14:47<shaun_>jhutchins: any idea on where i can get some help on that error other than #netfilter maybe?
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14:47<retrospectacus>cloudm33: it's the best one
14:47<cloudm33>I know.
14:48<cloudm33>I have Debian Squeeze with XFCE on laptop, and at my "weight PC" Debian Squeeze Gnome 2 :)
14:49<cloudm33>Linux Mint's, Ubuntu's, OpenSUSE... Debian, the best!
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14:50<retrospectacus>yer preaching to the choir :)
14:50<cloudm33>Hmm, so the Compiz Effect's don't work's, ehh.
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14:51<cloudm33>Of course i'm not changed to Linux for Compiz, i'm with linux most the time.
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14:51<retrospectacus>I use compiz, works great. Nvidia dual head
14:52<sney>for what it's worth, the kde4 compositing is just built in and you don't have to mess around with switching window managers. I checked it out on a whim and stayed
14:52<cloudm33>Retro, how you installed it?
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14:53<retrospectacus>just like the wiki says
14:53<cloudm33>I'm have a new 290 driver's, for my NVidia card.
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14:53<cloudm33>BUT THE XORG configuration don't work's.
14:53<cloudm33>Alway's the X manager stop working, gdm stop working...
14:53<Bushmills>cloudm33: who made that configuration?
14:53<sney>did you install from backports or nvidia.com?
14:53<retrospectacus>what did you add/remove to break it?
14:53<ac_slater>hey guys, my make file is failing on this line " export BINDIR=`pwd`/ " ..... it doesnt parse the `pwd`
14:53<ac_slater>any clue?
14:54<cloudm33>All the wiki say's.
14:54<cloudm33>I don't installed nothing more.
14:54<Bushmills>ac_slater: makefile isn't shell script
14:54<retrospectacus>sounds like you just didn't do it very carefully cloudm33
14:54<cloudm33>Only dev lib's for SDL, Glut, OpenGL.
14:54<ac_slater>Bushmills, is there a better solution to get the current dir?
14:54<ac_slater>with a trailing slash
14:54<cloudm33>Hmm, you can say's one?
14:54<retrospectacus>cloudm33: but you can pastebin your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log if you want us to take a look
14:55<Bushmills>ac_slater: relative path
14:55<ac_slater>Bushmills, yea i was going for a more automated solution
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14:55<cloudm33>Hmm
14:55<cloudm33>LOL, FAIL, i know what is the wrong.
14:56<ac_slater>Bushmills, ... i guess `./` works lol, brainfart
14:56<cloudm33>...compiz add the following...
14:56<cloudm33>I'm thinked "so, i must delete the section and paste the code from this site..."
14:56<retrospectacus>so I was right
14:56<cloudm33>But, i'm just must add code to section's. Sorry, busy day.
14:56<cloudm33>:)
14:57<cloudm33>If i want to delete COMPIZ, so.
14:57<cloudm33>aptitude purge compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-gnome compiz-gtk
14:57<cloudm33>?
14:57-!-peppe [~peppe@ppp-233-54.28-151.libero.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:57<cloudm33>And backup the old configuration of xorg.conf
14:57<cloudm33>Yep?
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14:58<retrospectacus>that configuration can probably be kept. it doesn't need compiz
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15:01<cloudm33>retrospectacus, wait
15:01<retrospectacus>can't wait, sorry
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15:01<cloudm33>i will upload, but actually i reset
15:01<cloudm33>pc
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15:02<cloudm33>You are going?
15:02<cloudm33>So, if yes, sorry.
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15:02<retrospectacus>:\
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15:05<cloudm33>Hmm.
15:05<cloudm33>The configuration is working... How you run the compiz?
15:05<retrospectacus>compiz --replace
15:05<cloudm33>Me too.
15:06<cloudm33>But the effect's are not working.
15:06<retrospectacus>but I use "fusion-icon" which is a handy applet to manage it
15:06<cloudm33>Everything else is working.
15:06<cloudm33>Initializing core options...done
15:06<cloudm33>Initializing move options...done
15:06<cloudm33>Initializing resize options...done
15:06<cloudm33>Initializing place options...done
15:06<cloudm33>Initializing decoration options...done
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15:06<ac_slater>lol
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15:07<cloudm33>Sorry.
15:07<cloudm33>pastebin, ya?
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15:08<cloudm33>Initializing move options...done
15:08<cloudm33>Initializing resize options...done
15:08<cloudm33>Initializing place options...done
15:08<cloudm33>Initializing decoration options...done
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15:08<sney>:|
15:09<retrospectacus>what a dummy
15:09<sney>for realsies
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15:39<tonycarioca>hi all
15:39<tonycarioca>anybody can help me?
15:39-!-serjs [~serjs@79.165.208.254] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
15:39<tonycarioca>need a english language improvement and I'm searchin' for how to connect a nice server to do it?
15:40<tonycarioca>hi @adema?
15:40<tonycarioca>hi @Aleric
15:40<retrospectacus>stop
15:40<tonycarioca>what?
15:40<tonycarioca>hi retrospectacus?
15:40<stummi>random people highlighting
15:40<retrospectacus>this channel is for debian support, and don't hilight people
15:40<tonycarioca>oh sorry
15:40<tonycarioca>oh sorry buddy
15:40<tonycarioca>I'm from Brazil
15:41<tonycarioca>here haven't any rules
15:41<tonycarioca>can you help me, so?
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15:41<stummi>lol
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15:41<retrospectacus>class ack
15:41<retrospectacus>t
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15:47<cloudm33>Ok, compiz fusion work's, i forgot to set up a effect's, lol.
15:47<cloudm33>Busy day, busy day :D
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15:48<retrospectacus>dpkg: congratulate cloudm33
15:48<dpkg>Good show cloudm33, you did it!
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15:48<cloudm33>I every day dit something at Linux, lol.
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15:48<cloudm33>Hmm... What programming library is the best to programm?
15:49<cloudm33>I'm think about QT...
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15:56<anonymous_>#Opmegaupload
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15:56<cloudm33>Anonymous fan? Get out.
15:56<cloudm33>ROFTL?
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16:04<guilherme>how can i see how many threads a process has??
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16:06<theocrite>guilherme: pstree
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16:07<jordanm>guilherme: ps -efL
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16:08<guilherme>if there is only one line, does it means that there is only one thread? or one process??
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16:09<redeeman>seems like the stable businesscard cd advanced install works
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16:12<tosted>how to optimize Xorg.conf for all my devices?
16:13<retrospectacus>delete it :P
16:14<tosted>retrospectacus, lol.
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16:14<retrospectacus>semi-serious actually. X should handle everything nicely without any configuration. You may use it to specify certain drivers etc.
16:14<retrospectacus>you'll need to be more specific
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16:16<houms>is there a way to use sudoers file to restrict a user to edit files in a specific directory only?
16:16<tosted>i have a notebook with external monitor LG 22", intel 945gm video card and none solution, retrospectacus !!
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16:17<tosted>retrospectacus, all boot the same problem, shaking images
16:18<tosted>debian could not recognize the full hd external monitor right frequence.
16:19<Bushmills>tosted, use xrandr instead
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16:19<retrospectacus>tosted: don't know much about intel gfx but http://x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver
16:20<kop>houms: That's not the kind of thing you use sudoers for. That's the kind of thing you use unix groups for. Try: http://wiki.debian.org/UserPrivateGroups or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions
16:20<retrospectacus>tosted: look for User guide for How to setup dual head
16:20<tosted>i m tired handling xrandr every boot, i know litle about scripting
16:21<houms>tosted what DE are you using
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16:21<tosted>i know almost nothing about scripting...,, :P
16:21<Bushmills>well, then man xorg.conf
16:21<tosted>debian-wheezy
16:21<retrospectacus>who said anything about scriptiing?
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16:22<tosted>xrandr, all the time... retrospectacus
16:22<houms>thanks kop, so if we have a regular user that we do not want to do anything but edit a file in a service directory e.g. /etc/apache that is not possible via sudeors?
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16:28<retrospectacus>tosted: it's just a command, not "scripting"... anyways if you really want to configure your laptop to always drive an external monitor, see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
16:29<tosted>i m there learning more about intel graphs
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16:29<tosted>retrospectacus, :,
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16:31<tosted>retrospectacus, houms, Bushmills , i think i ve found i was looking for....thank all you...
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16:33<retrospectacus>have fun :)
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16:57<TheLaughingMan>How would I go about checking my network configuration while using the Network Install CD?
16:57<retrospectacus>why?
16:58<retrospectacus>you can get a terminal during install by pressing Alt-F3 or so
16:59<retrospectacus>but it isn't very functional. Are you having a trouble installing?
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16:59<TheLaughingMan>Yes, I am having issues with networking I know it works but for some reason on the install it is having issues
16:59<retrospectacus>go on
17:00<TheLaughingMan>And I can't remeber the commands to view the information or what I have access to on this
17:00<ompaul>TheLaughingMan: are you plugged into your network while installing?
17:00<TheLaughingMan>Yes
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17:00<retrospectacus>"ifconfig"
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17:00<retrospectacus>but you should tell us more about the problem...
17:00<ompaul>what happens when it gets to the "network" part of the install?
17:01<TheLaughingMan>Well I have two interfaces one of them DHCP will work but when I try to do anything it says the Network is unreachable
17:01<TheLaughingMan>The other one I believe is the one that isn't plugged in and has issues
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17:02<TheLaughingMan>also the command ifconfig is not found
17:02<ompaul> /sbin/ifconfig
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17:02<ompaul>I don't know if it is available on the netinst disk
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17:03<ompaul>and do it like this
17:03<ompaul> /sbin/ifconfig -a
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17:04<TheLaughingMan>Not there
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17:05<retrospectacus>so the installer asks what NIC you want to use, gets an address by DHCP and then says "Network unreachable" ?
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17:06<TheLaughingMan>It asks me what NIC I want to use, does the DHCP and continues on with the install but when it gets to the part where I select the mirror it fails and it is failing with the wget saying it can't connect to the remote host
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17:06<TheLaughingMan>I tried wget http://www.google.com and it gets the IP but just says it's unreachable
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17:07<ompaul>TheLaughingMan: how do you know it "gets the IP"?
17:07<ompaul>and what exactly do you mean by that?
17:07<Mike632T>As a check can you ping your local machine and/or gateway (router) using the IP address...?
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17:08<retrospectacus>does ''/sbin/route -n'' say your correct gateway and interface?
17:08<TheLaughingMan>well it says it's connecting to www.google.com (74.125.227.112:90)
17:08<retrospectacus>if you have that command
17:08<retrospectacus>:80 I hope
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17:09<TheLaughingMan>Ok I get two lines
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17:09<retrospectacus>one is for your LAN, the other is for 0.0.0.0 (default) and should say your router ip for gateway
17:10<TheLaughingMan>Well it's saying 192.168.1.0 for the first one
17:10<retrospectacus>can you ping that?
17:10<retrospectacus>er
17:10<TheLaughingMan>I don't think I have ping
17:10<retrospectacus>it doesn't say that. I mean the Gateway (2nd column)
17:11<retrospectacus>for the line starting with 0.0.0.0 what is the gateway
17:12<TheLaughingMan>192.168.1.254
17:12<TheLaughingMan>which is correct
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17:13<retrospectacus>sounds fine... if that machine (your router?) is set up right it should let you ping google through it...
17:13<retrospectacus>or wget
17:13<tosted>retrospectacus, i m back...
17:14<TheLaughingMan>http://pastebin.com/B0S2ezvF
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17:14<Mike632T>TheLaughingMan: OK so it looks like you can connect and I assume you are chatting from a machine on the same subnet..?
17:14<tosted>retrospectacus, good apereance at x desktop, bur if i go tty 1-5 image still shaking!
17:15<retrospectacus>TheLaughingMan: looks good, can you wget http://192.168.1.254
17:15<TheLaughingMan>Yes
17:15<TheLaughingMan>and I am chatting from the same subnet
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17:17<retrospectacus>but wget http://74.125.227.112 says what exactly?
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17:18<mrstocks>hi, after upgrading i cant run Xorg anymore, missing nvidia drivers, nvidia-detect tell me i should install nvidia-glx but apt tell me its already installed
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17:19<ompaul>mrstocks: upgraded from what to what?
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17:19<TheLaughingMan>wget: can't connect to remote host (74.125.227.112): Network is unreachable
17:19<Mike632T>Did you say that the machine has two physical interfaces..??
17:19<mrstocks>ompaul i was on sid, just a basic update.
17:19<mrstocks>sid to sid
17:19<TheLaughingMan>Yes it does have two
17:19<retrospectacus>!pieces
17:19<dpkg>The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!!
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17:20<TheLaughingMan>I assume it's working somewhat since it can connect to the router
17:20<retrospectacus>TheLaughingMan: weird. The routing table looks great, I'm out of ideas
17:20<ompaul>mrstocks: there is #debian-next for futher chatting on that
17:20<ompaul>retrospectacus: fw only allowing one ip out or http proxy
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17:22<retrospectacus>TheLaughingMan: mhmm, anything like that on your router?
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17:23<AH_BPE>Hello, I am trying to redirect a URL from "www.domain.com/portal/information" "www.domain2.com/portal/wiki" Is there an way to do this redirection in Linux so when someone types the first URL it autoamtically goes to the 2nd url? ( want the url paths also included )
17:23<Mike632T>TheLaughingMan: Except that I don't see any entries for the second if
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17:23<retrospectacus>AH_BPE: only if the linux machine in question is www.domain.com
17:24<TheLaughingMan>Hmm
17:24<TheLaughingMan>I would I restart the networking stuff? I am going to try setting it manually and seeing
17:24<AH_BPE>retrospectacus Ahh, that's a shame I thought it was possible.
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17:25<retrospectacus>AH_BPE: you could use /etc/hosts to pretend you are www.domain.com, then use apache2 mod_rewrite
17:25<Mike632T>TheLaughingMan: Have you tries installing using the other NIC (eth0) ?
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17:26<retrospectacus>AH_BPE: extremely hackish
17:26<Mike632T>s/tries/tried/
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17:26<AH_BPE>retrospectacus hmm that could work, I know how to do the /etc/hosts part, how would the apache2 mod_rewrite go as I am not well learned in that area.
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17:27<retrospectacus>AH_BPE: hmm you'd need to rewrite all requestst to e.g. foo.php?url=$1 and then use php to analyze and header("Location...") to do the redirect
17:28<Bushmills>afaik does privoxy (or however it is called now) allow url translation on proxied requests.
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17:29<retrospectacus>there are likely browser plugins that would do such a thing too
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17:30<TheLaughingMan>Stupid scanning the CD-ROM
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17:32<TheLaughingMan>Anyways hooked it up to eth0 and it's still having the same issue
17:32<TheLaughingMan>Network unreachable
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17:41<mattcen>Hi all. Anybody here use an Apple Wireless Keyboard? I've got it paired and working, except for the function keys (e.g. I'd really love fn+{up,down,left,right} to correctly map to {pg-up,pg-down,home,end}
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17:50<Bushmills>TheLaughingMan: no route to destination
17:51<TheLaughingMan>I gave up and hooked it up to the router itself
17:51<TheLaughingMan>It appears to be working
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17:53<retrospectacus>... what was it hooked up to before?
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17:56<TheLaughingMan>It was hooked up to a router that was remotely hooked to the main router to bridge
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17:59<TheLaughingMan>It worked on every other computer properly and I was able to connect to the internet and had no issues, but idk why it was being a pain
17:59<ewokbot>Login Screen Setting is missing the feature for auto login at start up- is there a nother package that controls this?
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18:04<kop>ewokbot: It's a function of your display manager. What are you using, gdm3?
18:06<kop>ewokbot: (Anyway, I did it with gdm3, but forgot how. One of those gnome configuration things.)
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18:23<aNo>put on the red light
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18:30<bullet>gem install xdcc-fetch
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18:31<Darlal>Yop
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18:38<TheLaughingMan>Should I be worried that acpi -t doesn't work for me?
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18:40<mercutio22>Hi.. how can I find out which is the kernel version in sid?
18:40<retrospectacus>,kernels
18:40<judd>Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.8-2); wheezy: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.8-2); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-39squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27)
18:41<ewokbot>kop yeah it is gdm3. there is a config option for it but it can not be enabled.
18:41<retrospectacus>mercutio22: you can ask judd like so ^^
18:41<mercutio22>retrospectacus: awesome!
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18:42<themill>(actually, that's not quite right for judd but that fix is blocking on some other things)
18:43<Black_Prince>ewokbot: which option?
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18:45<retrospectacus>themill is that a problem with udd or judd?
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18:46<themill>the change to using xz compression for the kernel packages stops the update script from running successfully
18:46<Black_Prince>Sid has 3.2 kernel, not 3.1
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18:47<Black_Prince>Linux version 3.2.0-1-686-pae (Debian 3.2.1-1) (ben@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.6.2 (Debian 4.6.2-11) ) #1 SMP Thu Jan 19 10:56:51 UTC 2012
18:48<ewokbot>Black_Prince, system > administration >login screen dialogue box says "click to make changes" but it doesnt have any viable fields as if the a program isnt installed or it is somehow locked
18:49<retrospectacus>I see
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18:51<ewokbot>i have treid opening it as root with gdmsetup and still no option to for auto login of any users in the dialogue box
18:51<Black_Prince>ewokbot: auto login is broken on gdm 3.0.4
18:51<ewokbot>oh cool :) im glad i know now
18:51<ewokbot>i was really confused and felt to dumb to work debian lol
18:52<Black_Prince>ewokbot: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652472
18:53<retrospectacus>the answer then mercutio22 is to have sid sources and run apt-cache policy linux-image-[your arch]
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18:58<retrospectacus>or browse the <udd> manually for that tidbit, or packages.debian.org methinks
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18:59<themill>retrospectacus: fixed manually in judd's cache; the pci-id mapping hasn't been updated though.
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19:00<retrospectacus>good to know
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19:07<cjac>yow. I think I've had enough of the gtk+ interface to network-manager. is there a text file I can edit instead?
19:07<retrospectacus>you can remove network-manager and use interfaces
19:07<retrospectacus>are you using wirelesses?
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19:12<abrotman>or just tell network-manager not to manage the interface
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19:31<robertf>Hello
19:31<retrospectacus>hi
19:32<robertf>I need to seed torrent files. I'm using transmissioncli. How to do it? transmissioncli file1.torrent file2.torrent?
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19:39<zykotick9>robertf: (not helpful) if you're serious about cli, it's hard to beat rtorrent. Hope you find a solution with transmission, good luck.
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19:41<retrospectacus>zykotick9 speaks the truth
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19:43<robertf>zykotick9: rtorrent is easiest to do it?
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19:45<zykotick9>robertf: easy is relative... hard to say if it's "easy" or not.
19:45<robertf>ok
19:45<robertf>thank you
19:46<abrotman>easy enough :)
19:46<retrospectacus>rtorrent + apache2 + rutorrent = easy
19:47<retrospectacus>although performing the addition is not the easiest
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19:49<zykotick9>retrospectacus: i prefer the equation "screen + rtorrent = excellent" ;)
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19:50<vidrio>hola
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20:00<TheLaughingMan>Gah
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20:00<TheLaughingMan>Why doesn't this work
20:00<GCS>retrospectacus: Any other good web frontend for rtorrent?
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20:01<retrospectacus>there are rtgui and rtpg-www in debian but I haven't tried them
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20:01<retrospectacus>rutorrent is great, though I see it is not in debian
20:02<GCS>I think I'll package it somewhen.
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20:02<retrospectacus>packaging web apps hardly seems worth it but alrighty :)
20:02<TheLaughingMan>I am having issues setting up debian with my motherboard's RAID
20:03<GCS>Yes, it's not a big, neither know program.
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20:04<robbiethe1st>Use md instead?
20:04<robbiethe1st>md raid is generally as quick if not quicker, and far easier to manage
20:04<robbiethe1st>also, far more portable
20:05<TheLaughingMan>md?
20:05<retrospectacus>!md
20:05<dpkg>"Multidisk Device" (MD) is commonly used to describe the software <RAID> facilities available in the Linux kernel. To establish a software RAID array at Debian installation time, see section 6.3.3.4 of the <install guide>. See also <mdadm>. http://wiki.debian.org/SoftwareRAID http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/
20:05<robbiethe1st>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdadm
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20:08<retrospectacus>also TheLaughingMan this may apply to you,
20:08<retrospectacus>!fakeraid
20:08<dpkg>Fakeraid is a term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS. For use with Debian systems, it is suggested that you do not set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID instead; ask me about <md>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid
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20:10<TheLaughingMan>So let's say I did md for a raid1 and a HDD fails and replace it, how would I got about reseting it up
20:11<dondelelcaro>TheLaughingMan: partition the new drive, then mdadm --add as appropriate; install grub if necessary
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20:13<xxxxxxxx>running a fushitzu semen li2727 , anyway round these bugs?
20:13<xxxxxxxx>hotkeys?
20:13<robbiethe1st>TheLaughingMan, and you can also add hot spares, just in casre
20:13<robbiethe1st>at any time
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20:13<xxxxxxxx>brightness control
20:14<xxxxxxxx>acpi nonsense
20:14<xxxxxxxx>965 graphics
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20:14<xxxxxxxx>insane sound card behaviour
20:14<dondelelcaro>xxxxxxxx: it would help if you would ask a specific question; otherwise we can't help you.
20:14<xxxxxxxx>realtek 268 codec
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20:15<xxxxxxxx>is there ever going to be proper support for x3100 architecture and acpi power settings?
20:15<xxxxxxxx>or hotkeys to control the above
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20:15<xxxxxxxx>the xp disk is looming over me
20:15<xxxxxxxx>or proper split workspace monitor control
20:15<xxxxxxxx>?
20:16<xxxxxxxx>i have no brightness control- xbrightness workaround just spits out two settngs
20:16<xxxxxxxx>dim and not so dim
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20:16<xxxxxxxx>intel 965 chipset
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20:17<xxxxxxxx>audio decides it is going to work every so often- shuts off the output jack
20:18<xxxxxxxx>scans a realtek codec 268
20:18<xxxxxxxx>as a
20:19<xxxxxxxx>gma
20:19<xxxxxxxx>id like to help fix it but im over my head
20:20<xxxxxxxx>noone cares 965 chips just make devs bang there head on the wall.
20:20<xxxxxxxx>they did it on purpose to promote windows
20:21<dondelelcaro>a lot of those GMA chips are totally garbage, so it's not surprising that no one wants to work on them
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20:21<xxxxxxxx>thats why linux would be useful if it could stretch them cleverly to their clunky limits
20:22<xxxxxxxx>i dont care for the power management side of things- all that speed step gubbins dont matter as its a home pc. but just a brightness control would be nice
20:22<dondelelcaro>that requires someone who wants to work on them, and most people who care, don't care about them
20:23<xxxxxxxx>i care
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20:23<xxxxxxxx>its givign me a headache
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20:23<dondelelcaro>good luck
20:23<xxxxxxxx>how would one go about getting on to work?
20:24<xxxxxxxx>i think i may sack it off
20:24<xxxxxxxx>then
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20:25<codemonkey1337> I need help bad. I need to get into gnome on this debian live cd I'm running in QEMU and it wont work with my video card, I've tried everything. It DETECTS I have an nvidia card, but it wont let me install the kernel module! I've tried, vesa, nv, nvidia, noveau modules, and they all don't work!
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20:25<xxxxxxxx>they dont care if its too difficult
20:26<xxxxxxxx>coding has changed.....
20:26<xxxxxxxx>problems use to be challenges
20:26<robbiethe1st>codemonkey1337, hm... you're running it in qemu with what OS as a host?
20:26<robbiethe1st>'Cause the /host/ has to have the nvidia driver.
20:26<robbiethe1st>The guest can, at best, have a 'passthrough' to the host's X11 instance, more or less
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20:27<xxxxxxxx>someone throw us a bone- just adding a gui brightness controll please arrrrgh
20:27<codemonkey1337>robbiethe1st: Windows 7, not my choice either
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20:27<robbiethe1st>Why not use VirtualBox?
20:28<robbiethe1st>With the VirtualBox drivers, you can even get 3d acceleration
20:28<codemonkey1337>robbiethe1st: I don't believe virtualbox will run from a 2GB USB stick
20:28<robbiethe1st>Well... http://www.google.com/search?q=VIRTUALBOX+portable
20:28<codemonkey1337>and I don't need 3d accel, this is for a systems programming in unix class. I just need to be able to access firefox and stuff from the emulated enviorment, so I can work in unix in the lab.
20:29<codemonkey1337>Well even though that's true, we use qemu in class
20:29<robbiethe1st>Then why are you having so much trouble?
20:29<robbiethe1st>versus others?
20:29<codemonkey1337>I'm GUESSING it's because I have a newer model video card. My professor said he was running an nvidia card and his install went fine.
20:30<robbiethe1st>I mean, on windows, all the drivers present a common API, so the same configuration instructions should work
20:30<codemonkey1337>I don't know what the problem is, it's something within qem....
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20:30<codemonkey1337>I ran it as a real LIVE cd, and I had the same problem...no screens were found, so I installed the nividia driver, and it worked fine...it's something within the virtual enviorment that I don't understand yet.
20:31<robbiethe1st>Try looking for qemu drivers; remember, though, that the liveCD is running on actual hardware, whereas qemu is /not/
20:31<robbiethe1st>so qemu or virtualbox or xyz can't use the Nvidia driver
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20:31<robbiethe1st>You'll have to look for a qemu driver package
20:32<codemonkey1337>robbiethe1st: Okay, I undersatnd that part...I KNOW that they shouldn't be able to USE the actual hardware, but WHY does debian running off of qemu detect that I have an nvidia card and try to use the nv kernel module automatically?
20:32<robbiethe1st>I don't honestly know.
20:32<codemonkey1337>I run virtualbox from the same machine in a different OS, it doesn't detect the driver.
20:33<robbiethe1st>Personally, though, if you want it to /work/, just grab virtualbox, download a pre-installed virtual disk image for debian, add disk image and press start.
20:33<robbiethe1st>I've never gotten qemu to work right myself
20:33<codemonkey1337>can I add a qcow2 disk file on virtualbox?
20:34<robbiethe1st>No clue; ask Google
20:34<codemonkey1337>god I hate virtualization
20:34<robbiethe1st>So, install it directly on a partition of your disk
20:35<robbiethe1st>Install /windows/ in the VM!
20:35<codemonkey1337>I have to use it in the labs, and they don't have linux installed
20:35<codemonkey1337>so it has to be on a usb stick, but I think I'm just gonna go with virtualbox
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20:36<robbiethe1st>You can't bring in a laptop?
20:36<codemonkey1337>I don't have one
20:36<robbiethe1st>aw
20:36<xxxxxxxx>00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a00] (rev 03)
20:36<xxxxxxxx> Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions Device [1734:1123]
20:36<xxxxxxxx> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
20:36<xxxxxxxx> Capabilities: <access denied>
20:36<xxxxxxxx> Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
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20:36<codemonkey1337>dude I go to a community college and spend 60 bucks a week going to 4 colleges...I'm dead broke most of the time
20:36<codemonkey1337>I couldn't afford one even if I wanted one
20:37<robbiethe1st>Fair enough
20:37<codemonkey1337>look thanks for the help though
20:37<codemonkey1337>good to see that the problem is not me being an idiot
20:38<robbiethe1st>Well, it probably is... But don't worry, because I'm an idiot too ;)
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20:55<codemonkey1337>well, before I give up totally, I'll try running the ubuntu iso I have...I think ubuntu's autodetection and defualt kernel modules are a bit newer than debians
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20:57<codemonkey1337>so, just so you guys, know you may be seeing alot more of me. I'm getting a new 8 core system to replace my 2 core POS for my birthday later this month, and I want to move away from ubuntu as a desktop system
20:59<angeloscuro>ho
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21:43<Notan>I'm trying to switch to OSS4, but the oss4-dkms compile fails every time, with stable, testing and sid's versions, with an error saying "gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or directory"
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21:44<Notan>I'm on an i686 wheezy system with multilibs installed
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22:22<Scrabbilisk>testing 123
22:23<Scrabbilisk>Hello. I'm new here. Is there a website for basic irc help?
22:26<mosno>Scrabbilisk, irchelp.org
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23:31<nemessys>hi
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23:51<vmuser>does anyone know what this package would be? "checking for cos in -lm... no"
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23:54<retro|blah>-lm sounds like glibc's math library
23:54<vmuser>ah
23:54<vmuser>cheers
23:54<retro|blah>What is causing that anyway?
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23:56<vmuser>a package im trying to compile
23:56<vmuser>how would I install glibc's math library?
23:56<vmuser>is it just included with glibc?
23:57<vmuser>glibc is the gnu c lib
23:57<vmuser>sorry im a noob here
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