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00:07<jasonsmr>Can someone hep me with a debootstrap?
00:07<jasonsmr>I am having errors when chrooting into the debootstrap
00:08<jasonsmr>first error is about the package half installed when the apt-get update is run
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00:08<jasonsmr>this package is debian-archive-keyring
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00:54<xbytemx1>hi
00:55<xbytemx1>theres a program like friendlypinger on debian?
00:56<kop>!tell xbytemx1 about search
00:57<xbytemx1>kop im already apt-cache searched
00:57<kop>xbytemx1: You probably want "aptitude search ..." or debtags.
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00:57<kop>xbytemx1: debtags is helpful.
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00:58<kop>xbytemx1: What does friendlypinger do?
01:00<didi>I'm following dpkg <ssb> instructions to build a sid package (stumpwm) but during `apt-get -b source stumpwm' it errors with `dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: clisp-module-clx' even though I did `aptitude build-dep stumpwm'.
01:00<jm_>did: building in squeeze? note that the clisp-module-clx is not available in squeeze so ...
01:00<jm_>didi even
01:00<didi>jm_: Ah, I see.
01:01<jm_>didi: so start by backporting that
01:01<didi>jm_: `aptitude install -t squeeze-backports clisp-module-clx'?
01:01<xbytemx1>kop a simple ping to machines and you can save that machines and the type of (web,firewall,router,ap, etc) so, when you start the program it try to connect to the saved in a template machines
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01:02<jm_>didi: it's not in backports, you'll need to "ssb" it
01:02<xbytemx1>when i said connect I refear a ping
01:02<xbytemx1>kop
01:02<didi>jm_: Aaah... I think I'm getting it. Thank you.
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01:05<kop>xbytemx1: You could use mon. Or install debtags and do "aptitude search ~Gadmin::monitoring~Gnetwork" for more choices.
01:07<jm_>didi: no worries
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01:13<xbytemx1>kop thanks!, debtags didnt find anything I want, but i will try mon
01:13<kop>xbytemx1: There's also stuff like cacti and argus.
01:13<kop>xbytemx1: Or even icinga.
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01:15<kop>xbytemx1: You may also be interested in nmap.
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01:19<Polymorphic>all I do is win win win no matter what, got money on my mind I can never get enough and everytime I step into the building all the hands go up and they stay there
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01:19<Polymorphic>cuase all I do is win
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01:23<drizzy>"What's the name of the underground stalactite?"
01:23<xbytemx1>kop i heard about cacti, nothing for argus or icinga ... nmap its a classic for port scanning ...
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01:24<drizzy>I'm trying to register on the PlaneShift forums, but it's asking me, "What's the name of the underground stalactite?"
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01:32<yd>hi everybody"!
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01:32<yd>I have some problem with my installation of debian
01:33<yd>first I install the stable version.... it seems to me some bored for the old of packages, then I upgrade to the testing version
01:33<yd>and
01:33<yd>I lost two sub-menus in the system menu
01:34<yd>preferences and administration
01:34<yd>and I couldn't find s olution for that
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01:34<yd>now I return to the stable version without have the menus
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01:35<yd>anyone knows how can I get back the menus??
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01:36<jardiamj>I assume you are using gnome
01:37<yd>yes
01:37<jardiamj>yd, if that's the case yd testing has gnome-shell and it doesn't have those menus any more
01:38<yd>but I dont upgrade the version of gnome, I still using the version 2.6
01:39<yd>I guess... was the configuration of gnome-shell who did lost the menus ¿?
01:39<jardiamj>gnome-session-properties
01:40<jardiamj>no sorry... I got confused
01:41<jardiamj>yep, it happened to me as well when I upgraded..
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01:41<jardiamj>you should take this to #debian-next
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01:43<yd>okidoky, Im going to try
01:43<yd>thanks
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01:49<Alison_Chaiken>I see that CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP is not set for my kernel, so editing /etc/security/limits.conf is not giving me core dumps on SEGV.
01:49<Alison_Chaiken>Can I enable coredumps at boot with kernel command-line args?
01:49<Alison_Chaiken>Or perhaps (on a fully patched Wheezy) I can install a different kernel package?
01:50<Alison_Chaiken>Or should I just suck it up, make oldconfig, make menuconfig and recompile the kernel?
01:50<Alison_Chaiken>Thx for any advice.
01:50<jm_>Alison_Chaiken: what do you mean with core dumps? user space segfaults producing core files?
01:50<jm_>if so, CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP is irrelevant
01:50<Alison_Chaiken>jm_ precisely. My collaborator's lib is segfaulting and I want to give him a backtrace.
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01:51<Alison_Chaiken>Sometimes have a core file is more convenient than gdb.
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01:51<Alison_Chaiken>I don't have setrlimit and don't see which package it might be in.
01:52<jm_>Alison_Chaiken: run 'ulimit -c' in shell, what does it say? setrlimit is a system call, and ulimit is an interface for it (ulimit -c 999999 or whatever you want the limit to be)
01:53<Alison_Chaiken>So CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP is just for kernel panics?
01:53<jm_>yes, for kernel crashes
01:53<Alison_Chaiken>unlimited for ulimit. I gather that ulimit makes no difference, but I set it anyway.
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01:55<jm_>unlimited should do
01:57<Alison_Chaiken>Didn't appear to make any difference with ulimit.
01:57<Alison_Chaiken>Sounds like ulimit is deprecated and setrlimit is now used, but I have no such command.
01:57<Alison_Chaiken>I guess I have to google it harder.
01:57<jm_>no, setrlimit is a system call, ulimit is a shell command that uses it
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02:16<Alison_Chaiken>Duh: I had "ulimit -c 0" in my .profile.
02:16<Alison_Chaiken>I guess that brain cell has died.
02:16<Alison_Chaiken>Probably put that in .profile I scp'ed over in 1990 or something.
02:17<Alison_Chaiken>But I read a lot of fascinating man pages in the interim!
02:17<jm_>so how come it said unlimited then?
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02:46<Kesbec>!topic
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02:47<Kesbec>help topic
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03:50<theocrite>Hello.
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03:51<theocrite>Is asked earlier if there was a way to check if a computer I'm about to buy will run with only freesoftware. dpkg had a useful list of websites to help. Unfortunately, I didn't find anything listed here.
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03:53<theocrite>But my hope is that, since it's mainly intel-based, almost everything will be ok. But one last thing: Is there a way, knowing the computer model, to be sure that it will allow another OS to be installed. That it's not totally locked and that every piece of software has to be signed ?
03:53<theocrite>(The lappy I'm checking is the Sony VAIO Z Series VPC-Z21V9E)
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03:56<Sicelo>most should allow other OSes. aiui it's UEFI beast that will be a problem. check if your intended purchase uses that
03:56<filePeter>theocrite: Maybe you can find a list of chips built-in in there and gather iformation about this laptop’s debian support… Basically everything should with more or less additional work work fine.
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03:59<theocrite>thanks Sicelo & filePeter, i'll keep that in mind.
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04:36<kelkoobenoitr1>hello, i have a weird issue with Xauthority on squeeze
04:37<kelkoobenoitr1>When i use Xnest/Xephyr to open a gdm session on a remote host
04:37<kelkoobenoitr1>xauth list gives :
04:37<kelkoobenoitr1>#ffff#3136302e3130332e35352e3134#:1 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ff7af8861f1846bd357ccc16874c4cf0
04:37<kelkoobenoitr1>but it should be something like :
04:37<kelkoobenoitr1>
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04:37<kelkoobenoitr1>titanium.esrf.fr:1 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ff7af8861f1846bd357ccc16874c4cf0
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04:38<kelkoobenoitr1>the effect is that ssh -X anotherRemoteHost do not find the magic cookie
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04:38<kelkoobenoitr1>but if i do :
04:38<kelkoobenoitr1>xauth add titanium.esrf.fr:1 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ff7af8861f1846bd357ccc16874c4cf0
04:39<kelkoobenoitr1>then ssh -X anotherRemoteHost works fine
04:39<kelkoobenoitr1>any idea why or how "#ffff#3136302e3130332e35352e3134#:1" is generated in the cookie ?
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04:57<SynrG>kelkoobenoitr1: looks like a dotted quad in hex-encoded ascii to me
04:57<SynrG>160.103.55.14
04:57<SynrG>(if i didn't lose my place reading the hex :)
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05:01<kelkoobenoitr1>SynrG: ok, but who is encoding this ? Is there a way to disable it ?
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05:03<SynrG>well, as such it's probably a valid representation of some host at that ip# ...
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05:04<SynrG>perhaps this is what it does if it can't resolve it to a name?
05:04*SynrG shrugs
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05:07<SynrG>kelkoobenoitr1: this thread describes the same problem. not sure if there's anything useful in there ...
05:07<SynrG>https://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=9817587
05:09<kelkoobenoitr1>Indeed, that was the best i also found on my issue. but it does not explain the why the MAGIC cookie looks like this.
05:09*SynrG shrugs
05:09<SynrG>i googled mit-magic-cookie ffff
05:09<SynrG>hit more than one page discussing it. maybe i just gave up too early?
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05:09<kelkoobenoitr1>maybe it has been called "MAGIC cookie" because of this ;)
05:10<SynrG>:)
05:10<kelkoobenoitr1>right, will google more on this mit-magic-cookie ffff
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05:26<pieter>hi guys
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05:28<jasonsmr>Kevin` ping
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05:36<pieter>hey guys, do you know where i can the latest moonlight plugin? the links of the nightly release are dead!
05:36<pieter>:(
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05:40<kilelme>!moonlight
05:40<dpkg>Moonlight is an open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight for Linux and other Unix-based systems. Silverlight is used to deliver interactive audio and video through a web browser, similar to <Adobe Flash>. Previously packaged for Debian (never part of a stable release), removed to resolve Debian bug #638565. http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ #moonlight on irc.gnome.org.
05:41<kilelme>sorry... forget about private with dpkg
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06:46<cloudm33>Hello everyone.
06:46<cloudm33>Why Marcomedia Flash lag's on my Debian Squeeze GNOME 2.30 + Compiz + Emerald?
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07:19<gattytto>good morning to everyone :)
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07:21<gattytto>I'm trying to do a dhcp/dns-relay from LAN to WLAN on a netbook.. could someone point me to the right direction?
07:21<gattytto>hola
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07:25<yhlfh>is there a debian 6.0.4?
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07:26<jm_>yhlfh: http://debblog.philkern.de/2012/01/call-for-testing-upcoming-squeeze-point.html
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07:30<yhlfh>why can't i install extensions for chromium?
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07:33<Bushmills>yhlfh: we don't know. tell us.
07:34<ernesto>halo
07:35<Bushmills>gattytto: dhcp3-relay
07:35<Bushmills>that's isc-dhcp-relay now.
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07:38<ernesto>OK
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07:40<gattytto>bushmills can iscp-dhcp-relay be used along with wpe for the wifi ad-hoc?
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07:43<gattytto>I mean, how should I configure eth1(wlan) to bring up a relayed dhcp server over a wep/wpa authentication?
07:43<yhlfh>Bushmills: when i click on a extension, it just shows a popup with the detial of that extension, but there is no install button.
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07:44<gattytto>yhlfh must be that you should place that file somewhere
07:45<yhlfh>gattytto: what file? there is no download button
07:45<Bushmills>gattytto: dhcp-relay just needs two interfaces. one to listen to, one to send relayed requests to. how they're established, dhcp-relay doesn't care
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07:46<Bushmills>but that would mean, you may have to bring up wlan before dhcp-relay is started
07:46<gattytto>yhlfh You'll get downloaded .crx file, that is just .zip'ed pack of extension file. So, you extract it to any folder, and from Chromium extensions management, choose "developer mode" and "load extension without packet", pointing to folder with extension file
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07:47<gattytto>or maybe fin a way to trigger dhcp-relay after wpa-psk authentication succeeds?
07:47<gattytto>/s/fin/find
07:47<yhlfh>gattytto: when i click on an extenion, it just pop up the detial, there is no download button
07:48<gattytto>yhlfh: you should surf a bit more 'til you find the download link for those extensions
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07:49<Bushmills>gattytto: if you set up wlan through /etc/network/interfaces, you should be able to use up action from interfaces, or a script in ifup.d
07:49<gattytto>I see
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07:51<gattytto>so could I set up the wlan wpa-psk/wpe link and then after that do the dhcp relay-thing so my client will authenticate and then ask for an ip?
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07:52<Bushmills>i see no reason why not
07:52<gattytto>I've seen many examples on setting up the wpa-psk part but the set-up is based on static ip's and local dhcp server doing the job
07:52<yhlfh>gattytto: OMG, i just can't find the blue install button
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07:53<gattytto>yhlfh: rule number 1: don't panic
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07:55<gattytto>I think I've found it
07:55<yhlfh>gattytto: visiting the extension web site, i was just directed to the google extension gallery
07:56<gattytto>dhcrelay3 -d -i wlan0 -i tap0 192.168.1.1
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08:11<kalujny>Hey guys!
08:12<kalujny>which channel should I stalk about building intel graphics drivers ?
08:12<Bushmills>sounds like #make or #c
08:13<kalujny>meh
08:13<mosno>or xorg/kernel channels
08:13<jm_>why would you build them yourself?
08:13<mosno>but generally i would think upstream mailing lists
08:14<mosno>oh wait, i thought he meant "develop"
08:14<kalujny>well the ones wich came with squeeze are not too noice
08:14*mosno backs away quietly
08:14<mosno>kalujny: do you get display artefacts, too?
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08:14<jm_>there is a newer version in the backports repository
08:15<kalujny>hm!
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08:15<kalujny>mosno: nop, not yet.. but no 3d and no multimonitor config on HD 3000
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08:15<kalujny>i gotta check out backports repo
08:16<kalujny>and avoid the pain altogether
08:16<mosno>kalujny: ah, i'm running a 965
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08:17<kalujny>damn :D
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08:17<kalujny>i have already "make installed" tons of stuff into my /usr/...
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08:17<kalujny>i will regret this >.<
08:18<jm_>http://blog.mraw.org/2011/08/20/Squeeze-backports/
08:18<jm_>no doubt you will
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08:19<mosno>kalujny: you shall incur the wrath of dpkg no doubt
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08:20<kalujny>i guess there is no easy way back, right?
08:20<mosno>kalujny: i suppose you could reinstall the packages whose stuff you overwrote, but i'm no expert
08:21<mosno>kalujny: there's some dpkg checksum tool but i don't know if it applies for an already dirty system
08:21<jm_>using debsums shall help somewhat
08:21<mosno>thats the one
08:21<bw>hi
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08:22<kalujny>Thanks for the hints guys
08:22<kalujny>i`m obviously better off with backported driver
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09:59<franzmaulwurf>hi
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10:22<rigved>hi eveyone.
10:23<rigved>is there is a history kept somewhere, of all the applications that have been installed on the computer. i am using debian sid.
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10:23<rigved>basically, i want to find out the applications that were installed on a specific date.
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10:26<heikkila>rigved, /var/log/apt/history.log etc
10:26<rigved>heikkila: ohh ok. thanks!
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10:59<EmleyMoor>I am getting a message that my login password no longer matches that of my login keyring - and I can't get any old passwords I remember to work it. How can I fix this?
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11:04<miles_>Hello, people. I'm trying to move a EXT4 partition (primary) with Gparted, but no success: libparted tells me that "it's impossible to have overlapping partitions". Any clue?
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11:04<miles_>And, no, they do not overlap
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11:07<miles_>Oh. Got it. They DO overlap when rounding to cylinders. I'll just leave a small empty space between them.
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11:39<sanvila>Hola
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11:40<sanvila>Sorry for the noise. Have a nice day.
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11:44<iiu7>I have made .deb packages for C++ programs with Makefiles, but what a pain in the ass it is to create a debian package for a simple Python script!!
11:44<iiu7>Too much damned trial and error.
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11:46<sney>iiu7: #debian-mentors may have some tricks
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11:46<iiu7>sney, good idea, thanks!
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11:50<muhammad>hi
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12:03<muhammad>hey
12:03<kop>!ask
12:03<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
12:04<muhammad>this room for help
12:05<retrospectacus>this is the debian support channel
12:05<kop>muhammad: Yes, help for Debian GNU/Linux. If you need help in another language than english we can refer you to another channel.
12:06<muhammad>i can not swich between arabic and english
12:06<muhammad>i use xubuntu
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12:07<retrospectacus>muhammad: xubuntu is not debian, you will have to go to their channel for help
12:07<retrospectacus>!xubuntu
12:07<dpkg>Xubuntu is a derivative of <Ubuntu> with the <Xfce> desktop environment. It is not supported in #debian, join #xubuntu on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.xubuntu.org/ See also <based on debian>.
12:08<muhammad>ok sir thank you
12:08<kop>muhammad: Good luck.
12:08<muhammad>and too
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12:08<Maxou56800>I have a question, what is the name of the paquet for open image files?
12:08<Maxou56800>(The default paquet)
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12:09<retrospectacus>for gnome it's eog
12:09<Maxou56800>ok
12:09<retrospectacus>Eye of Gnome
12:09<retrospectacus>if I'm understanding your question correctly
12:09<kop>What's a paquet?
12:09<Maxou56800>I want say a program.
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12:10<Maxou56800>I'am on Crunchbang, (a alias of Debian)
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12:10<Maxou56800>thx retrospectacus eog is good.
12:10<retrospectacus>don't know anything about that... it's not debian
12:10<retro|blah>package
12:10<kop>Maxou56800: You should be getting help from the crunchbang folks. We'll just break your system.
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12:11<retrospectacus>with gusto
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12:11<Maxou56800>eog run on Crunchbang gnome, no probleme, thanks guys! :)
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12:12<retrospectacus>curses! I accidentally helped a CB user
12:13<retrospectacus>Maxou56800: just kidding. Have fun but please go to the correct channel next time
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12:14<clown>hello
12:14<clown>hello
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12:16<retrospectacus>clown
12:16<retrospectacus>!ask
12:16<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:18<idefusee>Hi
12:18<idefusee>Does anyone know how to get my Line In working on Linux
12:19<idefusee>(Debian Squeeze)
12:19<clown>qingwen
12:19<idefusee>Basically I want to listen to my Line In (PS3 is connected to the line in)
12:19<retrospectacus>idefusee: some toggle/mute/volume adjustment in alsamixer probably
12:19<idefusee>Hmm
12:19<idefusee>Il try that now
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12:20<idefusee>I have a feeling the correct drivers are not there
12:20<clown>有人使用中文吗
12:20<idefusee>I only have Master and PCM, also under Capture i have CAPTURE
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12:20<idefusee>All are on full volume
12:20<retrospectacus>try hitting spacebar or M on them
12:21<idefusee>There all on full volume
12:21<idefusee>Not muted
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12:21<clown>what is password of root when ubuntu at first installed?
12:21<idefusee>When I used to run ubuntu I enabled some module (ubuntu was using OSS however) and then it let me hear my line out through the speakers
12:22<retrospectacus>idefusee: a better driver may be in order. What's your card? (run ''lspci -nn'' and paste the line for the card here)
12:22<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc clown
12:22<dpkg>clown: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
12:22<idefusee>00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383]
12:22<idefusee>Its an AMD 770g I think
12:23<idefusee>00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge [1022:9600]
12:23<idefusee>00:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) [1022:9603]
12:23<idefusee>00:0a.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 5) [1022:9609]
12:23<idefusee>00:11.0 SATA controller [0106]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1002:4391]
12:23<idefusee>00:12.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397]
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12:24<idefusee>Oops
12:24<idefusee>Shouldnt have tried to post that lspci log
12:24<idefusee>Do you need the full one or is the audio line sufficent?
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12:24<retrospectacus>that's all I wanted...
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12:24<idefusee>:)
12:24<retrospectacus>anyways it should just work
12:24<idefusee>Ok
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12:25<idefusee>If I play audio from my PS3 (connected to Line In), with all outputs on full/not muted I cannot hear anything.
12:25<idefusee>Sound output does work however, because when i move the volume control it makes a sound
12:26<idefusee>I read about something called JACK
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12:26<idefusee>Which would allow me to route the Line In -> Line Out
12:26<retrospectacus>did you actually try pressing the spacebar? It's not the same as m
12:26<idefusee>Il try it
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12:27<idefusee>Yes no change
12:27<idefusee>(Other than CAPTURE goes from RED to -------)
12:27<idefusee>ALSAMIXER says
12:27<idefusee>Realtek ID 892
12:27<idefusee>It could be I do not have the correct audio drivers
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12:27<retrospectacus>hm
12:27<retrospectacus>can you pastebin ''lsmod''
12:27<idefusee>Yes
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12:28<idefusee>http://paste.debian.net/153729/
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12:29<kalujny>Good evening! :)
12:29<retrospectacus>looks ok. Do you have more than one sound card by chance idefusee ?
12:29<idefusee>No
12:29<idefusee>But
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12:29<idefusee>It could be the HDMI Audio on my graphics card
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12:29<idefusee>(I am however not connected via HDMI)
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12:30<kalujny>this can be disabled in bios propbably
12:30<retrospectacus>try alsamixer -c 1
12:30<retrospectacus>or -c 0 or 2
12:30<idefusee>Ok
12:30<retrospectacus>or w/e to pick what card
12:30<idefusee>alsamixer -c 1 Microsoft Lifecam VX-800 This sound device does not have any playback controls
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12:31<idefusee>alsamixer -c 0 HDA ATI SB (My motherboard audio)
12:31<idefusee>alsamixer -c 2 HD-Audio Generic ATI R6xxx HDMI
12:31<idefusee>With one output S/PDIF (MM)
12:32<retrospectacus>which one was the realtek then?
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12:33<idefusee>-c 0
12:33<idefusee>I remember doing this on ubuntu pactl load-module module-loopback and it worked until I rebooted
12:33<idefusee>(Then stopped working)
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12:34<retrospectacus>ah there is also F6 to choose card :P
12:34<idefusee>Yes :P
12:34<retrospectacus>did you mess around in the gnome sound control panel
12:34<idefusee>Yes i have checked that
12:34<idefusee>everything is turned up
12:35<idefusee>.etc
12:35<idefusee>No inputs hidden
12:35<idefusee>Im looking on the internet and their is a mention of snd-aloop
12:36<retrospectacus>I'm out of ideas, besides installing pulseadio
12:36<idefusee>Hmm
12:36<idefusee>I think that it might be driver releated
12:37<idefusee>How would i install a driver for ALC889 (if that is my chipset)?
12:37<idefusee>Or
12:37<idefusee>I could install PulseAudio
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12:41<BrUneT>Hi
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12:41<idefusee>I have just installed pulseaudio
12:42<idefusee>I now have in my Volume Control
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12:42<idefusee>Playback: Internal Audio Analog Stero
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12:42<BrUneT>Jest ktos z polski xD ?
12:42<idefusee>Capture: Monitor of Internal Audio Analog Stero (Pulseaudio)
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12:42<retrospectacus>!pl
12:42<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
12:43<BrUneT>hehe oki :D
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12:43<idefusee>Ive just ran the command
12:44<idefusee>pactl load-module module-loopback
12:44<idefusee>Now im getting static out of my speakers
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12:44<retrospectacus>:\
12:45<idefusee>Ah
12:45<idefusee>you have to then pass it the audio devices
12:46<idefusee>Where do i get the alsa_output.pci-blah.analog-stero .etc from?
12:46<kalujny>Guys what is the way to repopulate /dev/disk/by-uuid ? It seems to be missing half of my HDDs
12:46<idefusee>Found em
12:46<idefusee>paman
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12:49<litarov>123456
12:49<litarov>123456
12:50<idefusee>Why Do i have Dummy Output in my pavucontrol?
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12:51<idefusee>ah i was running it as root
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12:52<Bushmills>interesting. a program calling users running things as root accidentally "dummy"
12:52<idefusee>I am
12:52<idefusee>So it is correct
12:52<idefusee>:)
12:52<idefusee>Anyway
12:53<idefusee>I now have Internal Audio Analog Stereo under Input Devices
12:53<BrUneT>podajcie jakies polskie kanaly xD
12:53<idefusee>but I am not playing anything through the line in port
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12:53<idefusee>and the bar is going up and down randomly
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12:54<BrUneT>dupa xD
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12:59<Bushmills>!pl
12:59<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
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13:00<BrUneT>in debian-pl channel is people xD
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13:01<retrospectacus>that doesn't mean you should spout rubbish in here
13:01<retro|blah>BrUneT: On irc.freenode.net
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13:13<BrUneT>narka szparka xD
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13:24<toadd>Hi. I'd like to solve this kind of error : error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I'm running on debian squeeze 64 bits. I think this is beacause i have to too recent release of gcc but i don't find .deb for older release
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13:36<ubuntu>hello
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13:51<mhall119_>hi
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13:56<yetr2>trying to install xtables-addons-dkms, keeps failing on Error! Build of xt_pknock.ko failed for: 2.6.32-5-amd64 (x86_64)
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13:58<yetr2>it says check the log file, which has nothing useful in it.
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14:04<gnugr>yetr2: check here " http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xtables-addons "
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14:06<mianrgk>hi
14:06<mianrgk>alguien por ahi'0
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14:25<Naridine>hi!
14:25<retrospectacus>g'day
14:26<Naridine>my first time in this channel, newe in debian, just triyng mIRC
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14:27<Naridine>i'm from spain, spanish debian channel very few people...
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14:27<retrospectacus>debian doesn't have mirc...
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14:27<Naridine>i'm in win now
14:27<retrospectacus>D:
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14:28<Naridine>later I change SO...
14:28<retrospectacus>that's too bad. Anyways this channel is for debian support. Do you have a debian support question?
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14:29<Naridine>many questions but slowly please, my wife prepairs dinner and me with a baby crying in my hands, jo , too stress, later we talk...
14:29<Naridine>tanks...
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14:31<retrospectacus>buena suerte
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14:38<javierlr>anyone have any script to copy the debian repositories and update daily squeeze
14:39<retrospectacus>what do you mean "copy the debian repositories"
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14:40<javierlr>I mean the debian mirror
14:40<javierlr>squeeze
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14:40<retrospectacus>that tells me nothing
14:41<harry>javierlr, try http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
14:41<themill>no, please don't recommend that site
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14:41<themill>dpkg: tell javierlr about make squeeze sources.list
14:42<javierlr>#!/bin/sh
14:42<javierlr>ARQUITECTURA=i386
14:42<javierlr>METODO=http
14:42<javierlr>RAMA=lenny
14:42<javierlr>RAMAS=lenny,squeeze,sid
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14:43<retrospectacus>neither of those sounds like what he wants
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14:43<themill>dpkg: tell javierlr about paste
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14:43<themill>javierlr: do you really want a full mirror? or do you just want a cache of the packages you are using?
14:44<javierlr>themill correct!!!
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14:45<javierlr>sorry for the English use google translate for Spanish-language community might help me not
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14:59<ninetto> the last song
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15:14<rpgdude>is there anyone here that can help me with control@bugs.debian.org
15:15<rpgdude>i need to merge 2 bugs, but it give me an error
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15:17<rpgdude>it says mismatch
15:17<rpgdude>package don't match
15:17<rpgdude>severity and done mark don't match
15:18<rpgdude>packages are shrinksafe and src:shrinksafe
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15:18<rpgdude>severity is serious and normal
15:18<rpgdude>done mark is open and done
15:19<ansgar>rpgdude: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#merge
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15:20<rpgdude>ansgar: yeah i know about that, but im not sure what is should do to make them match
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15:21<ansgar>rpgdude: It says what you can do for that there.
15:21<rpgdude>like which one should i reassign?
15:22<rpgdude>should i set them both to src:shrinksafe or shrinksafe?
15:22<ansgar>The one you don't think is right ;) I would use src:* for build failures.
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15:22<rpgdude>ok that makes sense
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15:25<rpgdude>how do i change the done mark?
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15:28<ansgar>rpgdude: a mail to nnn-done@b.d.o or close nnn (deprecated, but I think okay if you want to merge bugs).
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15:38<rpgdude>i sent the email
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15:38<kayla>hello anyone there
15:38<winsen1>AgentC: where are you?
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15:38<winsen1>Hi
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15:40<kayla>hello anyone there
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15:58<kayla>hello is their anyone i can talk to
15:58<Bushmills>!ask
15:58<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:09<nk_red>hi all, does anyone know where I can get ISO 27001 documentation (free) ?
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16:10<daemonkeeper>ISO documentation and "free" is a contradiction by itself.
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16:11<petemc>nk_red: i have a pdf
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16:11<petemc>its a pain in thr arse, if you're going for certification
16:11<petemc>nk_red: i got it from a uk library that does ebooks
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16:12<nk_red>you know man.. i dont think is fair to pay for something that is a standard
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16:12<petemc>you'll have to pay to get certified anyway
16:13<nk_red>i just want to know what is all about...
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16:13<petemc>procedures and policies
16:13<petemc>asset registers and risk registers
16:14<nk_red>i'd appreciate if you could share the pdf
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16:14<Castrooo>jeloooooooooou
16:15<Castrooo>tu quen ereeeeeeee?
16:15<Castrooo>:)
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16:17<Castrooo>uolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
16:18<daemonkeeper>Castrooo: Thank you for not spamming the channel.
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16:20<jthill>nk_red: lots of extremely competent people put lots of time into producing those standards, and every government in the world examines and votes on them
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16:21<daemonkeeper>That's not an argument for not making them public available though.
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16:21<jthill>it certainly is not from a moral or desirability standpoint, I think we agree on that
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16:22<daemonkeeper>It isn't from any point of view. Building blocks of Debian are _huge_ amount of work as well, where a lot of skilled people put a lot of time into it. Yet it is freely available. Anyway, we're off-topic.
16:22<jthill>but the time put into them is beyond just "substantial". To get funding for that effort, there aren't all that many options
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16:39<kalujny>!tell me about mdadm
16:39<kalujny>in the help for mdadm that bot gives me the link to faq has to be changed to https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/articles/m/d/a/Mdadm-faq.html
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16:43<kalujny>Guys how come i can see /dev/sdc1 in "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc" but not in "ls -la /dev | grep sd" ?
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16:49<madduck>kalujny: sfdisk -R /dev/sdc
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16:49<madduck>the kernel probably hasn't reread the partition table
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16:50<kalujny>sounds weird
16:50<kalujny>i just booted
16:50<kalujny>thanks for the tip
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16:52<kalujny>one more question. I think i got it but just want to confirm
16:52<kalujny>i created 2 md devices successfuly, created fs's on them etc etc
16:52<kalujny>did update-initramfs -u & update-grub
16:53<kalujny>but missed updating /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf with whatever was actual
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16:53<kalujny>i rebooted an my md devices are lost
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16:54<kalujny>sounds about right?
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17:02*grummund notices that Linux 2.3 has just become available in backports
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17:04<retrospectacus>2.3??
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17:07<daemonkeeper>Yes, the kernel which will become 2.4 one day retrospectacus
17:07<grummund>duh. 3.2
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17:07<retrospectacus>;)
17:08<grummund>i wonder if this may help fix my crackling alsa problem
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17:32<cjuner>A lot of people here may be interested in this petition against the ratification of ACTA by the EU parliament: http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_spread/
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17:35<grummund>yeah it was just signed by Hitler, Germany 10 seconds ago :-/
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17:36<kop>cjuner: Yeah, but it's still offtopic. :-( #debian-offtopic
17:36<streuner_>grummund: crap
17:37<streuner_>kop, we are all interested for free internet
17:37<cjuner>kop, consider it a public protest.
17:37<kop>Ok.
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17:39<grummund>add justin spears, and jesus to the list
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17:40<streuner_>wth is Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement?
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17:42<streuner_>hm, anit-piracy politics, in general
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17:48<jacek>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16735219
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17:55<Guest634>I'm thinking of installing a build but need an architecture question answered. Any able to help?
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17:56<streuner_>Guest634: if you dont give us more details, nobody would be able to help.
17:57<Guest634>The 64-bit PC torrents are labeled amd64. Are they compatible with Intel's Core processors or do I need the i386 build?
17:57<streuner_>!amd64
17:57<dpkg>amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ #debian-amd64 on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>.
17:58<streuner_>Guest634: means, if you have multiple CPUs, you should using AMD64
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17:59<Guest634>Not sure about literal separate CPU since I'm on a laptop but they are listed as suc in device manager.
17:59<Guest634>*such
17:59<streuner_>Guest634: what kind of arch do you have?
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18:00<streuner_>Guest634: some quad CPU?
18:00<Guest634>Not positive, based on research I believe it's x86-64
18:00<Guest634>8X cpu
18:00<streuner_>well, use AMD64 then
18:00<Guest634>Intel Core i7
18:00<Guest634>ok thanks
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18:01<bw_>Basicly, if it's a 64bit CPU you might as well use a 64bit OS
18:01<bw_>Basically yoo
18:01<bw_>too
18:02<Guest634>Okay so AMD isn't specific to athlon processors?
18:02<streuner_>true
18:02<bw_>No, it's any x86_64
18:02<Guest634>that clears it all up. thanks.
18:02<streuner_>AMD64 is for intel as well
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18:41<ale_>!list
18:41<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
18:41<ale_>ciao
18:41<ale_>!list
18:41<dpkg>ale_: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
18:41<kosttek>hello
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18:44<zykotick9>What does "VATTENE VIA" mean? Google translate gives "hydrological VIA" i don't get it?
18:44<retrospectacus>go away
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18:45<retrospectacus>get out
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18:45<zykotick9>didn't it used to say something about "no warez here", i liked that one. Thanks retrospectacus
18:45<retrospectacus>(italian)
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18:48<grummund>why italian?
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18:48<scientes>dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 541190 package 'iceweasel-l10n-bn-in':
18:48<dpkg>scientes: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
18:48<scientes> EOF during value of field `Description' (missing final newline)
18:48<scientes>E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
18:48<scientes>i cant install packages
18:49<dodd>hi
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18:49<scientes>I think its just too big
18:50<dodd>hello
18:50<jthill>~$ wc -l /var/lib/dpkg/available
18:50<jthill>862909 /var/lib/dpkg/available
18:50<dodd>hi
18:51<scientes>541190 /var/lib/dpkg/available
18:51<scientes>im on armel---the last line has a bunch of @@@@@@@@@
18:51<scientes>i.e. binary shit
18:51<themill>that's not a good sign
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18:52<scientes>could be a apt-cacher-ng problem
18:52<dodd>hi
18:52<jthill>!ask
18:52<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:52<GalegO>hi guys!
18:53<cquinn>helo
18:53<themill>scientes: I'd be checking that the fs is ok at this stage.
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18:53<themill>scientes: if it is, then you can recreate available; /msg dpkg available
18:53<GalegO>The Debian can index the files like the windows, for a quick search??
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18:54<cquinn>GalegO: mlocate
18:54<scientes>ahhh, my computer crashed
18:54<scientes>that was probably the issue
18:54<GalegO>cquinn: apt-get install mlocate?
18:55<dada>hi
18:55<retrospectacus>GalegO: you probably already have it
18:55<dada>can you help me
18:55<retrospectacus>GalegO: locate foo
18:55<retrospectacus>GalegO: you may need to run "updatedb" as root first
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18:56<retrospectacus>dada: only if you ask a debian question
18:56<GalegO>thanks :D I see working now :)
18:56<dada>hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
18:56<retrospectacus>dada: can't help you with that
18:57<scientes>!ask: dada
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18:57<dada>i need connect with msn
18:57<dada>?
18:58<scientes>dada, install a recent version of telepathy and empathy
18:58<scientes>dada, msn now support XMPP, so any XMPP client can connect to MSN
18:58<GalegO>retrospectacus: and have any UI to mlocate or only text mode?
18:58<dada>where are location
18:58<dada>program
18:58<dada>?
18:59<scientes>dada, apt-get install empathy
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18:59<retrospectacus>GalegO: not that I know of
18:59<GalegO>rssrsrs Skype + Fb Messenger = I don't need MSN any more rsrsrs...
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19:00<GalegO>retrospectacus: I installed the mintmenu in my debian,, have any way to make the "seach field" work using the mlocate?
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19:00<GalegO>*search
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19:00<dada>what next
19:00<dada>?
19:01<retrospectacus>GalegO: no idea about that. "mintmenu" is not part of debian
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19:01<dada>what
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19:01<GalegO>retrospectacus: I know, but is better than the gnome classic menu :)
19:02<retrospectacus>dada: ..... next, you run the program. Type empathy or find it in the menu
19:02<GalegO>well ... IMHO
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19:02<retrospectacus>yeah well we can't support it cause we don't know shit about it
19:02<dada>i do not
19:03<dada>any thing
19:03<GalegO>retrospectacus: rsrrss thanks again... after the updatedb the search is working very fast :D
19:03<retrospectacus>yes it's indexed :P
19:04<dada>i need install messenger
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19:04<retrospectacus>!msn
19:04<dpkg>The .NET Messenger Service (formerly MSN Messenger Service) is an instant messaging and presence system by Microsoft, using the Microsoft Notification Protocol (MSNP). To connect using a Debian system, ask me about <bitlbee>, <centerim>, <emesene>, <empathy>, <kopete>, <licq> or <pidgin>. All <Jabber> clients can communicate by using a MSN transport. Note that MSNP performs no content encryption.
19:05<retrospectacus>dada: ^
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19:05<retrospectacus>dada: you installed empathy right? There you go. What is your question?
19:05<dada>yahoo
19:05<dada>??
19:06<retrospectacus>empathy works for yahoo messenger too as far as I know
19:06<dada>yesterday make it but now miss it
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19:08<dada>i know you are not understand me
19:08<bw_>What are you trying to say?
19:08<retrospectacus>not at all
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19:08<dada>mm
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19:09<GalegO>retrospectacus: another and last question... I instaled the compiz and emerald, applyed an theme, and do you know how I make the 2 gnome bars (up and down) with glass style?
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19:09<retrospectacus>nope
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19:11*Yorgos says hello
19:11<bw_>If you want support for certain programs, you'd be better off going to Google. #debian is more general help.
19:12<dada>thanks for all
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19:14<dada>hi
19:14<dada>how are you
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19:17<dada>hi
19:17<dada>hhhhhhhh
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19:33<GalegO>retrospectacus: thanks for the help :D bye
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20:30<bw_>Why is the latest version of iceweasel not in the debian repo?
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20:32<retrospectacus>bw_: I'm on my way out but did you check out http://mozilla.debian.net/
20:34<bw_>ah cheers
20:34<bw_>that'll do it
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21:12<ZeoZAn>Hello :D
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21:37<scientes>plug:~# dpkg -L phpsysinfo
21:37<scientes>/etc/phpsysinfo
21:37<scientes>/etc/phpsysinfo/config.php
21:37<scientes>thats obviously incomplete
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21:39<scientes>ahh, it wasn't installed
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21:47<lightning>Hello?
21:47<lightning>I don't mean to bother anyone.
21:47<lightning>What is XChat?
21:48<lightning>Nice chat...bye.
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21:51<abrotman>eh?
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21:52<_pegasus_>oi
21:52<_pegasus_>Cadê as pessoas daqui?
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21:54<metaspike>hey, how can I open a port?
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21:58<_pegasus_>do you have try pull the door?
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22:12<metaspike>hmm interesting, thanks asr33
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