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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-01-29

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00:01<MTecknology>I imagine this won't stick through reboots
00:01<deansu>unfortunately not
00:02<MTecknology>but at least it's something :D
00:03<deansu>if you do debconf-show console-data
00:03<deansu>do you see asterisks by the appropriate layouts?
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00:04<MTecknology>yup
00:05<deansu>so you have * console-data/keymap/family: dvorak and * console-data/keymap/dvorak/unknown/standard/keymap: ANSI or which ever one you selected?
00:05<MTecknology>yup
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00:05<deansu>bizarre
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00:05<MTecknology>:(
00:05<MTecknology>deansu: maybe a reboot?
00:06<MTecknology>see if magic happens?
00:06<deansu>MTecknology: I was hessitent to suggest that, but I'm always of the 'why not' category when it comes to reboots :)
00:06<MTecknology>hrm....
00:06<MTecknology>maybe that's not needed
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00:07<deansu>it shouldn't be needed, but I'm used to usual things happening
00:07<MTecknology>i mean that now it seems to be working
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00:09<Solarbaby>how long is it ok to avoid updating to debian squeeze 6.0.4?
00:09<MTecknology>Solarbaby: from?
00:09<Solarbaby>I literally just setup 6.0.3 on all my systems just a few days ago
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00:10<MTecknology>Solarbaby: why would the upgrade be such an aweful thing then? it'll be painless and easy
00:10<deansu>6.0.4 is a compilation of all the security fixes/updates since 6.0.3, if you've been keeping your packages up to date with apt-get|aptitude update && upgrade, then you're running 6.0.4
00:10<Solarbaby>just do a apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade?
00:10<Solarbaby>and supposably no pain?
00:10<deansu>just a regular upgrade
00:11<Solarbaby>oh perfect
00:11<MTecknology>Solarbaby: zero pain at all
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00:11<MTecknology>debian != rhel ... no pain in upgrading even release to release :D
00:11<Solarbaby>I always hold my heart when i update
00:12<Solarbaby>heh
00:12<Solarbaby>can't help it
00:12<MTecknology>Solarbaby: you use anything rhel based in the past?
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00:12<Solarbaby>im not sure what rhel is, but I use debian squeeze on headless servers .. like the pogoplug
00:12<Solarbaby>nslu2 as well
00:13<MTecknology>rhel is redhat enterprise linux
00:13<Solarbaby>oh i haven't used redhat since 12 years back I think
00:14<Solarbaby>i remember i did an update with redhat way back then and it upgraded perl and destroyed all my website stuff and i got so pissed I didn't come back to the scene until a few years back with ubuntu
00:14<MTecknology>for as much as you pay them to give you seamless updates and such, rhel is teh _only_ distro i've ever seen break a system by doing a standard update of base packages
00:14<MTecknology>not once, not a fluke, many times
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00:14<MTecknology>heh... perl seems to be the #1 issue i've faced too
00:14<Solarbaby>MTecknolagy: thats exactly my point.. of course I was using it a LONG way back
00:15<Solarbaby>I would be a lot better with linux today if I hadn't gotten so upset back then
00:15<MTecknology>Solarbaby: when the update broke perl on our system, it broke primarily on our payment gateway; a LOT of money was nearly lost
00:15<Solarbaby>wow
00:15<Solarbaby>thats worse then what happend to me
00:15<Solarbaby>I was just a hobbiest as I am now
00:16<Solarbaby>a lot of my hard work was destroyed though
00:16<Solarbaby>I still have a backup of the server in tar form.. I figure maybe one day i'll try to restore it to a VM and see if I can play around with my old site
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00:17<MTecknology>Solarbaby: in my experience.... anything rhel based will destroy potential linux enthusiasts
00:17<MTecknology>this is sooo off topic for the channel
00:18<Solarbaby>it sure recked me for many years
00:18<Solarbaby>haha yeah.. well its advertisement for debian :)
00:18<MTecknology>hop into #debian-offtopic
00:18<Solarbaby>ok
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01:09<qkzoo>finally got sound working after a kernel upgrade, but now the volume hardkeys/mute do not work. I created a couple files in /etc/acpi/events and /etc/acpi - see http://pastebin.ca/2107248
01:11<qkzoo>Any thoughts?
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01:14<qkzoo>Have I missed a step in binding the keys?
01:15<qkzoo>:/
01:17<qkzoo>Everyone in bed?
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01:28<qkzoo>Hi. I just got sound working on my HP Mini on Debian Squeeze. However, the volume up/down/mute keys are not working. I created a couple files in /etc/acpi and /etc/acpi/events see finally got sound working after a kernel upgrade, but now the volume hardkeys/mute do not work. I created a couple files in /etc/acpi/events and /etc/acpi - see http://pastebin.ca/2107248 - but keys are still not working.
01:31<qkzoo>Can anybody read this line?
01:33<qkzoo>yoo hoo?
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01:33<qkzoo>Hello?
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01:35<qkzoo>Hello anybody?
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01:42<EmleyMoor>qkzoo: I don't think anyone is here right now who knows about thatt...
01:42<qkzoo>that's a real bummer :(
01:46<EmleyMoor>Volume keys on some systems are supported "out of the box" - but obviously not yours...
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01:47<qkzoo>It is on Ubuntu, but not Debian for some reason.
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01:49<li_milish>regardings my problems yesterday (win 7 and debian and bootloader question) i now found a good tutorial which explains why not to use the MBR and where to go
01:49<li_milish>www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/
01:49<li_milish>if someone is interested :D
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01:59<infinitezero>my win7 partition has been broken for about a month now...and I have not had any reason to fix it
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02:00<codemonkey1337>infinitezero: dude, I can totally understand that. I only have windows because I have to run visual studio for class and I need to use the compiler specific flags. If it were not for school, i would use only linux
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02:01<li_milish>wouldnt i play games on my pc i would probably also use only linux
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02:02<infinitezero>Some of the PC games work using WINE also
02:03<li_milish>some... ... ;D
02:03<infinitezero>I admit, I have an xbox360 and thats where I do most of my gaming
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02:05<infinitezero>But I do enjoy Urban Terror and Alien Arena, both free open source games
02:05<li_milish>i prefeer the pc as for everything "games, video, music"
02:05<li_milish>and my prefeered graphic cards (ati now amd radeon) does not have good drivers for linux
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02:07<infinitezero>thats too bad
02:07<li_milish>*"dont have" sry for my bad english :D
02:07<codemonkey1337>okay here is the thing. I NEED to have the /etc/network/interfaces file stay static, and it keeps getting reset whenver I restart my virtual machine
02:08<li_milish>i needed to set my interfaces file yesterday to chmod 0600 to configure wpa2-psk key! with chmod 0600 it could not be resettet or?
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02:30<Bushmills>music and video don't really need good drivers
02:30<Bushmills>the choice of games requiring good drivers is luckily overseeable, thus not a huge loss
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02:40<Gerowen>Is there an easy way to automatically sort the Gnome menus alphabetically, without manually dragging items around with the menu editor?
02:40<EmleyMoor>I have never been able to get good virtual machine performance on my current motherboard (kvm or virtualbox)... always getting lots of DMA timeout messages for the disks in kvm - why would this happen and is there anything I can do about it?
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02:41<codemonkey1337>oh god this is so stupid, even if I make it so root has no write access to the file, it STILL changes on reboot!
02:42<li_milish>write an startscript :D
02:43<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: You can add custom bash commands to /etc/init.d/rc.local , because that script is executed on startup. So just put your network config commands in there.
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02:44<codemonkey1337>Gerowen: hey thanks man, that might actually work
02:45<Gerowen>np, :-)
02:45<gsimmons>Gerowen: ITYM /etc/rc.local
02:45<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: gsimmons is right, I had the wrong path to the file, :p
02:46<codemonkey1337>oh good thing you told me, there is a file already existing under the first path
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02:51<codemonkey1337>Gerowen: dude you got any more ideas? It doesn't work if I put the device information in rc.local
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02:53<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: You're just trying to set a static IP right? I've only caught pieces of what you've been saying. Have you tried editing /etc/network/interfaces ?
02:54<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: Here's a short walkthrough I found with duckduckgo
02:54<Gerowen>http://www.wikihow.com/Assign-an-IP-Address-on-a-Linux-Computer
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02:54<codemonkey1337>Gerowen: Yes that's what I'm trying to do. Here is the problem, the file /etc/network/interfaces keeps getting overwitten on every restart. I need this file to stay put so I can set up a secondary interface with a "fake" ip address
02:54<codemonkey1337>so I can ssh into my guest OS from the internet
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02:55<codemonkey1337>thanks but I already read that article earlier, it didn't help me with my current problem
02:55<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: ah
02:55<codemonkey1337>it doesn't address the file being overwitten part
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02:56<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: Here's an article on it that says you have to remove the dhcp-client package, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
02:56<Gerowen>For the settings to stick
02:57<Gerowen>may be dhcp-client3 depending on distro
02:58<codemonkey1337>Gerowen: that may work for my problem, but let me explain what a portential problem would be. I don't know how the guest OS interfaces are being set up, I'm guessing there is some type of bridge from my host OS's internet because I don't need to screw with any commands on the system
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02:58<codemonkey1337>if I take out DHCP that might affect my actual internet connection right?
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02:59<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: Oh yeah, if the settings don't take, and you don't have direct access to the VM (You remoting in?) you may screw yourself.
02:59<codemonkey1337>Gerowen: okay, so I hate to sound like an idiot here, but what do you recommend I do?
02:59<Gerowen>What you could do is make a copy of /etc/network/interfaces configured as you want, store it someplace else, then in /etc/rc.local put some lines that copy your pre-written copy over top of the running copy and restarts the networking services.
03:00<Gerowen>If that's not what you did earlier with rc.local
03:00<codemonkey1337>no that isn't what I was doing, I was doing this in rc.local
03:00<codemonkey1337>auto eth1
03:00<codemonkey1337>iface eth1 inet static
03:00<codemonkey1337> address 192.168.56.101
03:00<codemonkey1337> netmask 255.255.255.0
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03:00<codemonkey1337>sorry?
03:00<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: lol it kicked you
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03:01<codemonkey1337>I wasn't aware cut and pasting was bad
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03:01<Gerowen>If it's a lot I usually use http://paste.debian.net
03:01<EmleyMoor>Don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin like paste.debian.net
03:01<codemonkey1337>oh, sorry, I wasn't awake
03:01<codemonkey1337>aware
03:01<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: I'm kind of at a loss if that's not taking for you, lemme poke around on the interwebz and see what I can find.
03:02<codemonkey1337>it's not much I was just doing auto eth1 iface eth1 ect. address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
03:02<codemonkey1337>Gerowen: one sec dude, let me try it first
03:02<Gerowen>k
03:02<codemonkey1337>one question, WHATEVER is changing this file obviously has root level privliages right
03:02<Gerowen>I would assume yes
03:02<codemonkey1337>so running this mv ./interface to /etc/network/interfaces command should too right?
03:03<Gerowen>yep
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03:04<codemonkey1337>okay I changed the file to a simple move command
03:04<codemonkey1337>thanks for the help btw
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03:05<Gerowen>np
03:05<Gerowen>lemme know if it works
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03:05<Gerowen>Wouldn't cp be better? Cause' once it "moves", your pre-written copy will no longer exist for the next reboot.
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03:06<codemonkey1337>oh...duh...
03:06<codemonkey1337>yea I kinda forgot that part
03:06<codemonkey1337>well at least I can see if it works this one time, if it does I'll do a cp instead
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03:08<codemonkey1337>um...well here's a small problem...the script apprently worked (maybe?), the file I created is NO longer there, but when I look in /etc/network/interfaces it's the same!
03:08<codemonkey1337>oh my god this is complicated
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03:09<codemonkey1337>any more ideas?
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03:12<Gerowen>codemonkey1337: Not right off hand, :-(
03:12<codemonkey1337>maybe we can try fixing what I did earlier...all I need is that file to stay the same
03:12<codemonkey1337>I tried this sudo chattr +i /etc/network/interfaces
03:12<codemonkey1337>but I got this error
03:12<valdyn>codemonkey1337: how the hell did you set it up that /etc/network/interfaces is overwritten each reboot?
03:12<Gerowen>Have you tried posting at http://forums.debian.net ?
03:13<codemonkey1337>posting what exactly?
03:13<codemonkey1337>it's just one line of error
03:13<Gerowen>Your problem, maybe get some more visibility
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03:13<codemonkey1337>the error I get is chattr:Innparoreate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/network/interfaces
03:14<codemonkey1337>in theory the command SHOULD work, all I need is for that file not to be over witten
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03:14<codemonkey1337>valdyn: dude, I did NOTHING to set this system up. It was a live cd given to me by my professor, I don't know if this is a feature of the OS or something he did himself
03:14<valdyn>codemonkey1337: ok, so its not debian
03:14<valdyn>codemonkey1337: how can we support that?
03:14<EmleyMoor>!bod
03:14<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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03:16<codemonkey1337>who said it wasn't debian, it's debian wheezy
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03:16<valdyn>but now im not surprised that chattr does not work on a CDROM
03:16<codemonkey1337>I never said it wasn
03:17<EmleyMoor>codemonkey1337: It may have started from Debian wheezy but...
03:17<Bushmills>chattr is ext2/3/4 specific
03:17<valdyn>or that interfaces stays the same on a *LIVE* cd
03:17<Bushmills>ah.. "not surprised" ... ok
03:17<codemonkey1337>well, the thing is, I don't know how this works...the VM REQUIRES the use of a live cd, but I used gparted to set up a ext3 partition that was formatted
03:18<codemonkey1337>how would I find out of this is running off a ramdisk?
03:18<Bushmills>df might show. or mount. look at the device mounted as /
03:19<codemonkey1337>aufs on /type aufs (rw,realtime,si= some numnbers, noxino)
03:19<codemonkey1337>the file system under df is "rootfs"
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03:20<valdyn>codemonkey1337: its a live cd, you cant expect changes to persist reboots
03:20<codemonkey1337>valdyn: dude, then I don't understand what's going on, I formatted a 20GB partition in gparted and since then all my folders and files (I've written a few programs and compiled them) have been on the drive.
03:20<codemonkey1337>something is being written to the disk
03:20<codemonkey1337>I just don't know what
03:21<Bushmills>well, with those unionised fsses you can, provided the rw volume is the same next time you boot
03:21<valdyn>codemonkey1337: yes, your own stuff, but not the stuff that is on aufs
03:21<Bushmills>aufs is such a union fs
03:22<codemonkey1337>so basically you guys are telling me that I can't make a permanent change to the interfaces file and expect it to stick.
03:22<valdyn>codemonkey1337: no, were saying that just changing the file is not enough
03:22<codemonkey1337>valdyn: okay, so what would be enough?
03:23<codemonkey1337>valdyn: is it even possible to get this to work right?
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03:23<Bushmills>study the output of mount. that should give you an idea what volume is used for what purpose
03:24<Bushmills>your setup is not typical for debian, so it's not too likely you're able to get an overwhelming amount of support here
03:24<codemonkey1337>oh...darn
03:25<codemonkey1337>well I guess I'll just have to manually edit the file every single time I start up the VM...god I wish it didn't take forever for it to boot
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03:25<codemonkey1337>well thanks anyway guys
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04:05<Power_Glove>I love the Power Glove, it's so baaaaaad.
04:05<Power_Glove>xD
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04:14<Power_Glove>I love the Power Glove, it's so baaaad.
04:15<hoshi411>if I'm running an i686 kernel will i386 packages still install from the repos?
04:15<hoshi411>or am I limited to the i686 package stream?
04:15<Power_Glove>I love the Power Glove, it's so baaaad.
04:15<Bushmills>!ops Power_Glove running endless loop
04:15<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: bushmills complains about: Power_Glove running endless loop
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04:16<hoshi411>i dont really know how to explain it but
04:16<hoshi411>uname -a tells me i686
04:17<hoshi411>Linux debkde 3.1.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Tue Jan 10 05:42:54 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
04:17<hoshi411>and it seems like some packages are not installing
04:17<hoshi411>when I check the debian package site
04:17<hoshi411>it tells me they are there
04:17<hoshi411>but they are i386
04:17<Power_Glove>I love the Power Glove, it's so baaaad.
04:17<hoshi411>but when I say apt-get install @#%
04:18<hoshi411>they do not install but tells me I am at the newest version
04:18<hoshi411>but debian package site tells me there is a newer version
04:19<hoshi411>is this because of a difference between i386 and i686?
04:19<Bushmills>hoshi411: try aptitude update
04:19<Alukardd>Hello! I use debian-squezze with last updates, but exploit (for this bug: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2012-0056) work on my system. I updates also from debian-backports... Now I have kernel 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae.
04:19<Bushmills>nope
04:19<hoshi411>Bushmills: you prefer aptitude to apt-get?
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04:19<Bushmills>doesn't really matter which one. i personally do, nowadays.
04:20<Bushmills>!why aptitude
04:20<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
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04:22<Bushmills>i suppose that better conflict management is more useful for testing or unstable than it is for stable. but then i don't see a need to handle two tools for the same purpose.
04:22<hoshi411>Bushmills: yeah I have noticed that aptitude helps a lot when I have a problem with dependencies
04:22<filePeter>Alukardd: Yeah, well, the security announce e-mail does not mention squeeze backports …
04:22<hoshi411>anyways.... my question was. will aptitude install i386 packages on an i686 machine?
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04:23<hoshi411>if not I am better off downgrading to i386 since the available packages are greater
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04:24<Bushmills>hoshi411: except kernels, x86 binaries comes mostly just as 32 or 64 bit versions.
04:24<Bushmills>both would be same versions.
04:25<Bushmills>ehm... misleading. i mean "version numbering of 32 and 64 bit code packages would be the same"
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04:26<hoshi411>Bushmills: right but if there is a package that is only available in the repo as 32 bit that will not install on a i686 machine , correct? aptitude will filter through and only install i686 packages on my machine correct?
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04:27<hoshi411>if there is an i386 package say gimp2.7.4-i386.deb and there is gimp2.6.1-i686.deb available in the repos
04:27<Alukardd>filePeter: that's a pity :-(
04:27<hoshi411>and I type
04:27<hoshi411>apt-get install gimp
04:27<hoshi411>on my i686 machine
04:27<hoshi411>it will not upgrade
04:27<hoshi411>correct?
04:27<Bushmills>hoshi411: i686 would be 32 bit. amd64 would be 64 bit
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04:28<hoshi411>ok but still...
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04:28<hoshi411>its not going to upgrade right?
04:28<Bushmills>i386 and 686 differences are only with kernel, iirc
04:28<filePeter>Alukardd: Very … Maybe you might want to go with 3.2 kernel from backports? I guess they don’t have that issue.
04:28<hoshi411>Bushmills: so it will upgrade?
04:29<Bushmills>if there's a new version, after you run aptitude update, it would be available for update.
04:29<Bushmills>mind you that for squeeze packages aren't usually new versions available
04:29<hoshi411>Bushmills: are you saying that both i386 and i686 both pull from the 32bit package streaM/?
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04:30<Bushmills>yes.
04:30<hoshi411>Bushmills: thanks. then my problem must lye elsewhere O_o
04:30<Bushmills>even though binary kernels are compiled (optimised) for misc CPUs, individual packages aren't
04:31<Alukardd>filePeter: maybe, but i don't really sure that 3.2 branch is enough stable
04:31<hoshi411>then it is really bugging me why the version of gimp I want , will not upgrade
04:31<Bushmills>,versions gimp
04:31<judd>Package: gimp on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.7-1; squeeze: 2.6.10-1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.6.10-1+squeeze1; sid: 2.6.11-8; wheezy: 2.6.11-8
04:31<hoshi411>but that is not a support issue for this channel
04:31<Bushmills>which version do you have, and which version do you expect?
04:32<hoshi411>so i was trying to limit my question to something more broad.
04:32<Alukardd>filePeter: and this bug not so dangerous bacause it's local
04:32<hoshi411>dont know where I would have to go to get support though
04:32<hoshi411>im running stable right now
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04:32<hoshi411>with some package pinning going on
04:32<Bushmills>so you're running gimp 2.6.10
04:32<hoshi411>but I really want to get gimp 2.7.4 on here
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04:32<Bushmills>that's not in stable
04:33<Bushmills>that's not even in unstable
04:33<hoshi411>Bushmills: right
04:33<hoshi411>that's why I said it s not a support issue for this chanel
04:33<hoshi411>its not supported by debian right now
04:33<hoshi411>i would have to find a channel that could help me out with that
04:34<hoshi411>google is not being my friend either
04:34<hoshi411>on this one
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04:34<Bushmills>debian won't upgrade packages to a version which is not available in debian
04:35<hoshi411>Bushmills: it will if you add a repo with that version in it
04:35<li_milish2>hello, i am in the partitioning setup from debian 6! i got one physical drive 500gig and i created neccessary partitions during my win7 setup which is already done! now i am rdy to finish my linux partitioning setup, but i dont have an idea where to put the bootloader in! the bootloader has to be on the partition where my linux has to be installed! can u give me a hint? heres a small overview of my setup http://paste.debian.net/153954/
04:35<Bushmills>hoshi411: MBR is commonly a good place
04:36<Bushmills>that results in using a linux bootloader, which offers you to boot either linux or windows
04:36<li_milish2>i followed a tutorial, which explained that this can cause some problems
04:36<filePeter>li_milish2: No, actually the bootloader does not have to be on that particular linux partition. It should be on the MBR of the 500GiG drive.
04:37<li_milish2>Because upgrading Windows tends to overwrite the boot loader, if it is installed in the MBR, the best location for installing the bootloader is the boot partition or, if you are installing to a second hard disk, the MBR of the second hard disk. Doing that will ensure that nothing you do on Windows will affect the Linux or BSD installation.
04:37<hoshi411>Bushmills: hmm actually , i had gotten gimp 2.7.4 running on my debian machine a while back but dont know how I did it... dont remember
04:37<hoshi411>the problem is I really love debian
04:37<filePeter>li_milish2: If not, you won’t be able to boot anything except windows, because the windows bootloader won’t ask you for linux or windows… :-
04:37<li_milish2>therefore ill follow the tutorial and use another location then MBR
04:37<Bushmills>hoshi411: i can't tell you how you did that.
04:37<hoshi411>but at the same time am a graphic artist and really need the uptodate features of the bleeding edge gimp
04:37<Bushmills>and i can't remember that for you :)
04:38<li_milish2>guys, i am following this tutorial http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/
04:38<hoshi411>Bushmills: yep , well thanks for your help so far anyways
04:38<li_milish2>and i failed yesterday with the MBR thingy
04:38<filePeter>li_milish2: How are you goona boot debian then?
04:38<li_milish2>i wasnt able to boot the win7
04:38<li_milish2>the tutorial tells me the win loader would show the debian 6 install
04:38<li_milish2>then after click debian 6 i come to the grub loader
04:39<Bushmills>li_milish2: installing grub on mbr usually takes care of allowing to boot windows too
04:39<Bushmills>no special tutorial required, commonly
04:39<li_milish2>i guarantee, i did this yesterday
04:39<Bushmills>without having read the tutorial, maybe they told you to do something wrong?
04:39<li_milish2>i had an win7 install finish, did a debian install with bootloader into MBR and booting win7 failed
04:39<li_milish2>both were fresh installs yesterday
04:40<li_milish2>:D no, maybe u can just give me an hint whats the linux partion is?
04:40<li_milish2>http://paste.debian.net/153954/
04:40<filePeter>li_milish2: Have you installed os-prober? Otherwise debian won’t make grub find the windows partition, if you don’t add it manually…
04:41<li_milish2>no, i just installed win 7 and then debian 6
04:41<Bushmills> #6 logical 36 GB f ext3 / <- that one
04:41<li_milish2>ok thx
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04:41<li_milish2> is it /dev/hda5 ?
04:41<li_milish2>oueh, srew me
04:42<li_milish2> /dev/sda6 ?
04:42<Bushmills>i'd say it is hda6
04:42<li_milish2> its sda or?
04:42<Bushmills>you tell me
04:42<Bushmills>it is your system, after all
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04:42<li_milish2>:D ye i know, but the partioning setup tells me (sda) 500.1GB
04:42<li_milish2>so its /dev/sda6 ?
04:42<Bushmills>then it is sda
04:43<Bushmills>probably
04:43<li_milish2>oki probably :D
04:43<Bushmills>sda5 might be the partition you're mounting in /boot
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04:46<li_milish2>setup tells me a swap partition is recommended! i do have 6GB installed and its only a laptop for personal use! do i need a swap partiton?
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04:47<filePeter>li_milish2: 6GiB of ram?
04:47<li_milish2>yes
04:47<filePeter>li_milish2: should be fine without swap.
04:47<li_milish2>but my graphiccard is onboard and use shared
04:47<li_milish2>4gig should be enough also or?
04:47<filePeter>li_milish2: Yes.
04:48<li_milish2>ok thx
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04:59<Bushmills>swap doesn't hurt. you'll need one if you want to hibernate your system, i.e. suspend to disk.
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05:00<hoshi411>gimp 2.7.4 I swear was available at one point in unstable
05:00<hoshi411>but now it is not
05:00<hoshi411>what happened?
05:00<hoshi411>did it get pulled?
05:00<Bushmills>if it ever was, there'll be a reason why it isn't any longer
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05:03<hoshi411>Bushmills: sorry, I meant to add on "to anyone who knows the answer" to my question
05:03<hoshi411>Bushmills: but I don't remember adding the line "to anyone who wants to make a random waste of time 14 year old comment"
05:04<hoshi411>anyways im out
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05:40<li_milish2>well, for beeing successfull with debian 6 and win7 dualboot i had to install easybcd to windows!.... guess i could also just install os-prober as filepeter told me! nvm :D
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05:42<filePeter>li_milish2: Nice you made it! :-)
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05:45<li_milish2>ye, thx !!!
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05:50<knoppix_>hola
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05:50<Guest841>hola
05:51<Guest841>hello
05:51<heikkila>hello
05:51<Guest841>hi heikkila
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05:53<Guest841>i´me going - bye bye
05:54<Guest841>:)
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06:15<Guest846>ciao
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06:16<ivan>ciao
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06:16<Guest846>funziona?
06:16<ivan>si
06:16<Guest846>bene
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06:17<ivan>meglio della chat di facebook
06:17<Guest846>anche io andrea
06:17<Guest846>aspetta che provo a uscire
06:17<Guest846>e riantrare
06:17<ivan>ok
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06:18<ivan>ciao andrea
06:18<andrea1234>ciao
06:18<andrea1234>ecco
06:18<andrea1234>perchè
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06:18<andrea1234>andrea era già occupato
06:18<melmothX>!it
06:18<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
06:18<andrea1234>mettendo invece andrea1234 funziona
06:18<ivan>a quando il nostro canale irc? ok
06:19<andrea1234>hai letto?
06:19<ivan>cosa?
06:19<andrea1234>il messaggio di dpkg
06:19<ivan>si
06:19<andrea1234>è un bot
06:19<andrea1234>comunque
06:20<ansgar>!ops andrea1234 ivan
06:20<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ansgar complains about: andrea1234 ivan
06:20<andrea1234>che significa?
06:20<ivan>bo
06:20<andrea1234>che shifo sta pizza
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06:21<andrea1234>vuoi che faccio da server
06:21<andrea1234>tanto ho 20 ore
06:21<ivan>si
06:21<ivan>dai
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06:21<melmothX>andrea1234 & ivan: questo è un canale di supporto per Debian. Andate in un altro canale per le vostre discussioni private
06:21<andrea1234>esisterà ircd
06:21<ivan>almeno non disturbiamo, scusate
06:21<andrea1234>come si fa?
06:22<andrea1234>scusate
06:22<ivan>una domanda, inerente a debian, che interfaccia grafica mi consigliate a parte gnome 2?
06:22<dtw>!it
06:22<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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06:22<Alukardd>WTF? use english please :-)
06:23<andrea1234>yes
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06:23<andrea1234>excusa us
06:23<ivan>sorry, we leave now
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06:31<abdulrahman>hi
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06:40<GruetzPad>hello. i have this thinkpad with pcmcia. i also have 2 rt2500 based pc-card wifi modules
06:41<GruetzPad>both work fine in client mode (even at the same time - nogo in windows!)
06:41<GruetzPad>i was wondering what i need to do to get one work in master mode
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06:44<ivan>* *** Found your hostname
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07:18<mkad>I installed debian testing everything worked fine, after upgrading to sid, F18 key causes right clck and my Elantech multitouch pad lost right click functionality, so I have to use mouse. Any help ?
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08:12<ilpollo>hi,i need the spanish chanel, thanks
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08:13<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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09:35<aim1159>anybody can consult in fontconfig configuration?
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10:28<tischi>moinsen.......
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10:43<user>hi
10:43<user>i run debian livecd
10:43<user>but i can`t start wireless :(
10:44-!-user is now known as Guest882
10:44<Guest882>wicd don`t show any network
10:44<Guest882>rfkill isn`t the problem....
10:44<Guest882>SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
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10:49<panko>it seems that your live-cd doesn't know your wifi card model, Guest882
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10:52<musca>!firmware
10:52<dpkg>Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
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10:54<locsmif>!tell Guest882 about firmware
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11:07<AthomIk>hello
11:07<scottwalker>hi
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11:07<AthomIk>have this in my kern.log NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 8, Channel 00000001 and systeme not responding some secondes
11:08<AthomIk>i think is a nvidia drivers problem ?
11:08<AthomIk>no ?
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11:08<AthomIk>nvidia-kernel-dkms 290.10-1
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11:42<franzel>hello all....just installed debian with gnome and installed noip2 to automatically update the no-ip website to update my ftp. I also set up my port forwarding in my rounter with Inbound port 80-80, with the private ip and private port 8080-8080. When I type in the account I set up with no-ip -> http://username.myftp.org, I get "Safari can't connect the the server username.myftp.org " . Can someone help troubleshoot
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11:43<vit>ueeeeeee
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11:52<incognito>hallo
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12:00<incognito1>does anonymous have a chat servere
12:00<incognito1>??
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12:12<bang>hi everyone
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12:31<franzel>someone please help with apache
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12:36<johfel>!ask
12:36<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:37<franzel>I have a problem with apache
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12:38<johfel>franzel: what does not work?
12:38<franzel>johfel: acutally I just realized that apache works....just can't get my port forwarding to work
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12:39<franzel>I popped in my localhost address and "It works!"
12:39<franzel>but when I type in my franzel.myftp.org, I get can find server
12:39<franzel>can't find server
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12:44<johfel>franzel: is the server behind a router with NAT?
12:44<franzel>server is connected to a router
12:45<franzel>behind NAT?
12:45<franzel>port forwarding? I have set up
12:46<johfel>ok
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12:50<johfel>Have you tried running apache on a port different from 80? Some router do not forward port 80 and 443 from the local network (because they run there their own web interface).
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12:53<johfel>franzel: maybe your apache listen only on loop back interface (lo), but not on the network interface (eth*,wlan*). Use "netstat -tapn" and check that apache's local adress is different from 127.0.0.1
12:54<franzel>not yet..I set up my router to port forward 80 to debian machine....when I type in 192.168.2.1xx I get apache working...in port forwading, I set up port 80 to forward to 192.168.2.1xx and when I test port to see if open via canyouseeme.org, it says I could not see your service
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12:56<franzel>just type that in and getting tcp6 0 0:::80 :::* Listen <return>l822/apache2
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12:57<johfel>franzel: ok. Do you have checked if franzel.myftp.org resolves to your public ip?
12:58<franzel>yes...resolves to my public ip
13:00<franzel>just fixed my port forwarding
13:00<franzel>just used tcp instead of both (tcp and udp) in router settings
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13:03<boomer>Can anyone help me with a linux capture source question for kismet configuration file?
13:04<panko>boomer: to configure your card?
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13:05<boomer>negative, configuring the configuration file.
13:05<johfel>franzel: http is tcp based, so udp forwarding should be not needed.
13:06<panko>em.... boomer, what question?
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13:11<franzel>johfel: Yes, I knew that, just assumed that having both selected would work..
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13:15<iocarmine>!hello
13:15<dpkg>Hi, iocarmine!
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13:16<franzel>thanks johfel
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13:27<johfel>franzel: you are welcome.
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13:31<jmr>i'm trying to multistrap a debian system onto a hard drive with the same versions of certain packages that are installed on the host system. my archives are on a local mirror of the debian and debian-ports archives. it worked once a couple of weeks ago, but it seems the archives have been updated and now my multistrap attempts have missing dependencies. schroot-common 1.4.23 has been replaced with 1.4.24, although the rest of the
13:31<jmr> schroot family remains at 1.4.23, as shown after an aptitude update on the host system ( http://pastebin.com/ckwkZ6q0 ). anyone know how i can update either aptitude's sources or my archive mirror so that 1.4.23 is available for multistrap again?
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13:45<gnugr>jmr: read this i hope it will help you "http://wiki.debian.org/Multistrap"
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13:59<qkzoo>Volume up/down/mute keys are not working on my debian squeeze on HP Mini, work on Ubuntu, any advice?
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14:00<amphi>bind the keysyms to whatever you like ;)
14:00<amphi>did you try xbindkeys?
14:01<qkzoo>The led on the mute button doesn't toggle at all, will it when I bind it, or is something else possily going on?
14:01<amphi>no idea
14:01<qkzoo>No, I haven't.
14:01*amphi wonders why people ask, and then ignore advice
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14:01<qkzoo>This is with the LXDE desktop btw
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14:03<amphi>I have no idea about lxde - does it have some gui thing to set keybindings?
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14:03<SynrG>no. alter the key bindings in openbox config
14:03<qkzoo>No, it doesn't. i'm checking synaptic now to see if xbindkeys is in there
14:03<qkzoo>doh
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14:04<SynrG>it's a simple config file.
14:04<SynrG>docs at openbox.org
14:04<qkzoo>ok, I'm looking now
14:04<josephseraos>is there how to restore my system? I mean like exists it in windows: restore to a preview restore point
14:05<SynrG>qkzoo: this is assuming the kernel synthesizes input events for the multimedia keys in squeeze for your hardware. it's certainly the *reasonable* thing to do ...
14:06<SynrG>qkzoo: it's trivial to confirm. start 'xev' and press the multimedia keys. if you see key events in xev, you're good.
14:06<amphi>qkzoo: the advantage of using xbindkeys for non-wm-specific stuff is that they still work if you change window managers
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14:07<amphi>SynrG: we did that yesterday ;(
14:07<amphi>er, ;)
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14:07<amphi>the buttons do generate X events
14:07<qkzoo>I tried a lot of stuff yesterday, but not editing this openbox file :)
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14:10<qkzoo>hmm.
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14:29<gruetzkopf>hello. yesterday I installed debian 6 on my thinkpad 600
14:30<qkzoo>I have key bindings now associated to my volume up/down/mute buttons, but the led status light on the volume mute button is out of sync with alsamixer status
14:30<gruetzkopf>everything works perfect, except for audio
14:30<gruetzkopf>soo, can anyone give me directions/tips on how to fix it?
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14:33<qkzoo>@gruetz I had to update my kernel;hopefully you dont' have to
14:33<qkzoo>...although it wasn't as painful as I thought it would be.
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14:35<gruetzkopf>thinkpad 600 is 1998 :)
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14:36<jhutchins_lt>!alsa checklist
14:36<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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14:38<qkzoo>Any ideas how to get the mute button led to be in sync with the actual status of the volume?
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14:39<qkzoo>..trolling google unsuccessfully
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14:42<gruetzkopf>hmm, even aplay as root doesnt find a audio device
14:43<gruetzkopf>"cannot find card '0'"
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14:48<gruetzkopf>and no oss packages are installed
14:48<gruetzkopf>list alsa users
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15:01<Xdept>Hey Guys, Just trying to make an IPv6 Firewall on my debian box persistent. I have no Idea how to do it
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15:03<priv1>Xdept, define firewall?
15:03<Xdept>ip6tables
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15:04<priv1>Where's the problem?
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15:05<Xdept>Where do I put my rules to load up on startup?
15:05<dusha>rc.local?
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15:06<Xdept>That's messy though
15:06<Xdept>I want something like iptables-persistent to throw all the rules in a file and it do the rest
15:06<Xdept>eg. centos: /etc/sysconfig/ip6tables
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15:10<qkzoo>Used xbindkeys to create key bindings, but can't get them to auto start when I reboot pc. I added to /etc/xdg/autostart, but xkeybindings can only start with root access. How do I do this?
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15:14<yetr2>Xdept: /etc/network/interfaces, (pre/post)-up on the internet facing interface; iptables-restore /etc/path-to-iptables-file
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15:14<yetr2>I tend to put mine in /etc/network/iptables
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15:15<yetr2>I can also put a (pre/post)-down to flush the iptables rules on that interface as well.
15:16<yetr2>I guess you could technically bring up iptables when lo starts, but I don't know if the other interfaces will exist at that point or even if iptables will care about that
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15:17<Xdept>So, Where would I put iptables-restore /etc/path-to-iptables-file, If I want to flush then load post up on eth0
15:17<yetr2>ok yeah, iptables doesn't care if the interface exists
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15:17<yetr2>you can shove it in with lo probably if you are severely paranoid
15:17<knoppix_>moin
15:17<knoppix_>hello?
15:18<qkzoo>Hello.
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15:18<filePeter>Moin!
15:18<Guest904>bin gerade mal an knoppix ausprobieren, nachdem linux 11.2 total in die hose gegangen ist
15:18<qkzoo>How to I autostart a program/command with root access?
15:19<Guest904>linux is ja echt zum kotz...................
15:19<Guest904>da blickt ja kein mensch durch
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15:19<filePeter>qkzoo: crond has a reboot target.
15:20<filePeter>qkzoo: That triggers on boot.
15:20<Guest904>ok, wer sendet mir nun ein hübsches bildchen?
15:20<qkzoo>Linux isn't so bad Guest904
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15:20<filePeter>!de
15:20<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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15:21<qkzoo>crond will look into this thank you, where is it located, in etc?
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15:24<filePeter>qkzoo: Yes.
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15:25<filePeter>qkzoo: It’s called @reboot …
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15:29<qkzoo>@reboot??
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15:32<ever_>alguien habla español??
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16:15<Solitarius>Hey guys! I just found how a little fun fact about one of my debian server. He passed 10 years of age! It's number 2 uptime record is "Two : 382 day(s), 06:30:22 running Linux 2.2.18pre21, ended Sun Mar 3 05:07:12 2002"
16:16<Solitarius>It's still running Debian 2.2. You DD guys make awewsome work! Kuddo!
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16:40<jgarvey>I'm very close to getting a 6head Debian/Squeeze system working. The non-boot video boards aren't quite right, and I can't figure out why. They come up but stripe and tear as other video changes occur, yet display an xterm properly for a while. Details at http://pastebin.com/ggCsta8T. PS... I can snapshot the striping/tearing.
16:41<jgarvey>clearly I'm very close... can anyone spot that little detail I'm missing.
16:41<jgarvey>please
16:41<Xdept>Can't see your pastebin
16:41<Xdept>http://pastebin.com/ggCsta8T
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16:43<Seui>3 radeon? @__@
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16:47<Xdept>Have you tried with windows?
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16:48<Xdept>Does it do the same thing on windows?
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16:52<Xdept>jgarvey,
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16:53<jgarvey>Xdept: Adding Xorg0.log to pastebin
16:53<jgarvey>Xdept: I can move the problem to any board... so this isn't hardware.
16:54<jgarvey>And there's no windows on this box.
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16:55<Xdept>I know, I was just trying to figure out if it was hardware related, because your config looks imaculate
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16:59<jgarvey>Xdept: pastebin updated, http://pastebin.com/ggCsta8T
17:00<Xdept>Saw it
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17:19<ilija>hy people
17:19<ilija>is somebode for chat
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17:21<Xdept>Just ask
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17:54<saulo>Hello! I have a chroot i386 installation in my 64 bit system, but my sound isn't working at chrooted system... somebody can help me? Use aplay at chrooted system returns me "device is busy".
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18:02<angelica>hey
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18:02<angelica>hola?
18:02<julian>hola
18:03<angelica>acabé de bajar este programa
18:03<angelica>esto es para las dudas de linux o algo asi?
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18:04<julian>ni idea... primera vez que entro tambein
18:04<angelica>umm
18:05<angelica>y tu usas linux?
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18:05<julian>si
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18:05<angelica>:)
18:09<daemonkeeper>Pleas talk English in here. We have #debian-es if you prefer to continue in Spanish. In both cases you might keep your conversations on-topic.
18:09<daemonkeeper>+e
18:09<angelica>what's the topic?
18:09<daemonkeeper>Technial support for Debian.
18:09<angelica>umm i have ubuntu
18:09<angelica>and i'm new in linux
18:10<retro|blah>!ubuntu
18:10<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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18:11<angelica>is it better debian or ubuntu?
18:11<daemonkeeper>I guess, in #debian everyone will say "Debian", in #ubuntu everyone "Ubuntu".
18:11<angelica>you try to be aim, i'm a begginer
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18:14<angelica>at least could you tell me how do i go to ubuntu
18:14<angelica>#ubuntu
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18:15<daemonkeeper>!ubuntu irc
18:15<dpkg>irc: Please take your Ubuntu question to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net as they are able to help you much better with Ubuntu questions than #debian. Ubuntu can be quite different from Debian, #debian is not just a version of #ubuntu for advanced Ubuntu users.
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18:28<cokesmoke>hi, anyone know how to start tightvnc on boot?
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18:39<cokesmoke>can anyone help me out here? quite new to all of this, so totaly lost :(
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18:41<ryan_>someone might be able to help you... state a question and if it don't get answered try aagain later
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18:41<Solitarius>cokesmoke: How do you start it right now, and under which userid?
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18:42<lfaraone>Is there a way on Debian to bridge an openconnect VPN (tun0) with an ethernet port? I'd like other non-VPN-aware clients to be able to route through the VPN.
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18:43<Solitarius>lfaraone: can't parse. You ask if there is a way to "bridge" because you want to "route".. bridging != routing.
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18:43<treeline>who
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18:44<cokesmoke>I just login with ssh and run the command 'vncserver'
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18:45<Solitarius>cokesmoke: Then put in that command in a crontab entry at the " @reboot " time. See crontab(5)
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18:45<lfaraone>Solitarius: sorry, I'd like to bridge, not route.
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18:45<cokesmoke>crontab(5)?
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18:46<Solitarius>That was a suggestion to consult the manual page of crontab in the section 5.. "man 5 crontab"
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18:47<Solitarius>lfaraone: Look at the package bridge-utils
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18:48<Solitarius>lfaraone: If your tun0 don't transmit arp request you might need to do some proxyarp on your ethX network on behalf of your tunX clients.
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19:18<Saiyans007>k
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19:22<Saiyans007>Exit
19:23<Saiyans007>whats this
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19:28<greyS>quit
19:28<giannos>hello
19:28<giannos>i need help
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19:29<funkdoobiest>?
19:29<giannos>can you help me guyz?
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19:32<SynrG>!ask
19:32<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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19:34<giannos>i have problem with resolution... i am new to Debian and Linux! i am using Debian 6... GPU nvidia 9500 GT and my monitor supports 1440x900 (GFT)
19:34<giannos>but maximux resolution is 1024x768
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19:35<giannos>can i do something for this?
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19:38<amitz>!nvidia
19:38<dpkg>http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. See <nvidia lenny> for oldstable. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
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19:40<giannos_>thanks... my problem is that i need widescreen resolution!
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19:43<amitz>your confusion/question, if any still exist, is unclear to me.
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19:45<giannos>how i can install like Ubuntu Nvidia driver to Debian if is it possible?
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19:47<amitz>too many conditional statements to write, some other may be able to help
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19:48<giannos>ok ty.. i am sorry... but is there commands to add a resolution?
19:49<chealer>giannos: which X video driver do you use?
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19:50<giannos>sorry i dont know... i just installed Debian 6
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19:53<giannos>and i cant find nvidia settings! debian works different than other linux versions?
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19:55<ergalvao>Greetings. I've decided to install debian, so I'm currently making a "trial installation" by installing it in a VM so I can see if any questions pop up and I already have two.
19:56<ergalvao>My first one would be this: I've set up a name for the machine and then the installer asks for a domain. Since my notebook is not part of a network I can leave this field blank, correct?
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20:04<amitz>ergalvao: not sure, but random domain works
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20:05<ergalvao>OK. Second question: I suck at partitioning, so I've chose guided, use entire disk and separate home partition. Thing is the installer defaults everything to ext3 and I'd like everything in ext4... Any easy way to do this?
20:06<ergalvao>s/chose/chosen/
20:07<Xdept>You can view the partition layout before writing changes? I think you can just hit back and go manual? Then edit the partition....
20:08<ergalvao>So I choose automatic and go back into manual?
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20:10<ergalvao>k, hold on, trying to go manual at first, let's see how it goes... fingers crossed
20:10<Xdept>Yeah, Let it setup your partitions first. Then don't write changes. Go back and edit the partitions you want to the right filesystem
20:11<Xdept>Or, you could always make a note of how Debian makes your partitions and then go to Manual
20:11<ergalvao>yeah going manual at first is too much for me
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20:11<Xdept>As a rule of thumb if you chuck like a gig of swap then just use / for the rest....
20:12<Xdept>Primary partitions
20:13<ergalvao>Ah, nice! It's not as complicated as I first thought! :D
20:13<Xdept>Awesome ;)
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20:14<ergalvao>so, anyway I can look for recommended partitions size? I mean, since it's a VM install I'll just leave as Debian figured, but I want to know for when I go for real
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20:17<Xdept>It all depends what you are using it for and what your drive sizes are. But it's fine to just chuck it all into one partition.
20:18<ergalvao>yeahm it will probably be better that way right
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20:31<Xdept>ergalvao, I just use one partition on my VM and it's fine. On my other ones I have / /usr /var /tmp /boot and swap in different partitions. If you were wondering
20:32<ergalvao>cool, I don't really mind having a single partition, so it's all good
20:32<m0rtis0000>hi. just installed debian yesterday
20:32<ergalvao>I have a question, tho, that will probably make me really unpopular here... :/
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20:33<m0rtis0000>i have 2 (tho they probably won't make me unpopular) :D
20:33<ergalvao>lol
20:34<Xdept>Just ask
20:35<ergalvao>I understand all the implications behind the whole Firefox->Iceweasel thing and I understand all the motives behind it and I think everything is allright with that, but... if I wish to download Firefox and Thunderbird and use them are there any bad consequences for me?
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20:35<ergalvao>I mean are there any technical issues which may cause problems with my Debian installation?
20:35<m0rtis0000>i am installing packages with gDebi package installer and it'll say "same version is available in a software channel". what/where is the software channel? :P
20:36<m0rtis0000>(that's 1)
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20:38<m0rtis0000>i also installed debian on my windows drive (after repartitioning 20gb for it). I went out and bought a separate HD -- can i migrate the existing debian installation over to the new drive?
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20:41<Xdept>m0rtis0000, You could try using dd?
20:41<m0rtis0000>what's dd?
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20:42<Xdept>You could load up a live debian cd and type something like dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1?
20:44<m0rtis0000>if i did that, how would i point grub to the new instance?
20:44<m0rtis0000>and i'd type the dd command while i was in the install (open a shell?)
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20:48<m0rtis0000>then would i have to unmount the old and new device, and remount the new device as /
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20:49<ergalvao>Xdept: OK, hitted a bump: "Installation step failed": "Select and install software"... I try to "Continue" on the same step, but it gets back to the same error
20:50<ergalvao>Corrupted DVD? Since it's a VM HD (10Gb) is it too small perhaps?
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20:51<ergalvao>I'm running a "CD (sic) integrity check"
20:52<ergalvao>which I obviously should have done before
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21:10<ergalvao>and the DVD is OK...
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21:16<ergalvao>Changing the mirror to see if it works
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21:30<ergalvao>I might be heading towards the same brick wall tho... Just realized the error wasn't on the files retrieve part...
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21:47<Xdept>ergalvao, You only need about a 1GB to install Debian
21:47<ergalvao>and that is awesome lol
21:47<ergalvao>but yeah, passed the previously failed step
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21:48<ergalvao>I've only changed 2 things: selected ftp.us.debian.org as the mirror and deselected the popularity survey thing
21:49<Xdept>What is the error?
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21:49<ergalvao>at the time (it passed now) it was failing at the "select and install software" step
21:49<Xdept>Is it picking up your network card?
21:50<ergalvao>yep
21:50<Xdept>Are you using net install?
21:50<ergalvao>no
21:50<ergalvao>but it went fine now
21:50<Xdept>Oh
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21:51<ergalvao>I've just changed the mirror and disabled the popularity survey
21:51<Xdept>Yeah, I see now
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21:52<ergalvao>Xdept: I know it's an annoying question, but would you have anything to say about my Firefox/Thunderbird question?
21:53<Xdept>I use Firefox on Debian
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21:53<Xdept>Does that help
21:54<ergalvao>lol
21:54<ergalvao>yes it does
21:54<ergalvao>thank you for taking that weight off my shoulders
21:54<ergalvao>:)
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21:59<chealer>ergalvao: there are no particular problems with these. as with anything you install manually, you lose Debian's support
22:00<ergalvao>chealer: I see, thank you
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22:01<ergalvao>well, everything is running smoothly on the VM so I'm now one step closer to install Debian for real (I just need to finish a project first). Thank you very much Xdept and chealer for the help and patience :)
22:01<Xdept>np
22:01<ergalvao>see you guys next time, when I plan to be already running the real deal :D
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22:42<wilson>has anyone used skype4py ??
22:42<Xdept>No, What's the problem?
22:43<wilson>i have to use skype4py as part of my projcet. I have installed but dont know how to run it
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22:46<Xdept>locate skype4py?
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22:47<Gerowen>http://mozilla.debian.net not responding when I do apt-get update , any idea what's up with it? http://bit.ly/wLYaNb
22:47<Xdept>It's not just you! http://mozilla.debian.net looks down from here.
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22:49<Xdept>wilson, Do you know where the excecutable is?
22:49<Xdept>Because you may need to chmod it? Then ./skype4py
22:50<Xdept>Also, do you have python installed?
22:50<wilson>yes
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22:51<Xdept>Need more info, Do you know where the executable is?
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22:53<abrotman>Gerowen: it's hosted on alioth
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23:32<voltagex>is Alioth down?
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23:34<retro|blah>Seems like it yes
23:38<voltagex>same with git.debian.org
23:38<dondelelcaro>that's on alioth
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23:42<voltagex>retro|blah, dondelelcaro: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.announce/1648 seems to be the issue
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23:56<Joeindia>hello i need help to install kerberos on debian please
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