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---Logopened Sat Feb 04 00:00:22 2012
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00:04<thorie>anyone know how to disable the power save mode for my monitor? it turns itself off when idle after 5 minutes or so
00:06<jello>thorie: which de?
00:07<jello>i adjust it using the xfce power manager
00:07<jello>but gnome and kde probably have their own tools
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00:11<thorie>hmm
00:11<thorie>what's a de?
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00:14<MrFrood>thorie: Desktop enviroment, eg, KDE, Gnome, XFCE or LXDE
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00:14<thorie>oh im using fluxbox
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00:14<MrFrood>thorie: that's a WM (Window Manager) - so you are not using a DE
00:15<thorie>i see
00:16<thorie>does that mean i can't control the monitor from going blank after 5 min?
00:18<MrFrood>thorie: it means you probally need to specify the timeout in an xorg.conf file
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00:20<thorie>ohh ok
00:20<thorie>where can i find the xorg.conf file?
00:22<MrFrood>etc/X11/xorg.conf - try 'Xorg -configure' if it does not exist
00:22<thorie>i found "xset -dpms" i will see if this works
00:22<MrFrood>thorie: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg and http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQ
00:22<thorie>ok
00:22<thorie>thanks
00:23<MrFrood>thorie: iirc that willl work on a per session basis xorg.conf will make it permement
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00:26<kop>How can I tell what's posix? (In particular I want to know if cat -n is posix, but it'd be good to know how to tell in general.)
00:29<MrFrood>kop: use dash or ksh in it's posix mode and yo will not go far wrong
00:29<MrFrood>I think
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00:30<kop>MrFrood: Yah yah. But cat is not a shell. :)
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00:34<MrFrood>true
00:35<MrFrood>but that's half the fun :P
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00:55<Coveny>i'm about to change computer hardware for the box that runs my Debian server. at the moment it's running on a amd and i'm about to change to intel. what is the best way transfer the installation? can i clone the drive and run installation and it will keep all my config but reinstall the kernel and packages with the riight packages?
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01:02<MrFrood>Coveny: if you can ask again in a couple of hours the sysadmins in Europe should be awake
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01:09<scientes>is there any search term in aptitude that matches all the packages that were initially installed by debian-installer?
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01:35<scientes>anything sortof like python-vm-builder available?
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02:07<simonlnu>dude, took off
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02:14<Coveny>is there a way to reinstall debian?
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02:16<Zaba>Coveny, what makes you think that it won't run on new hardware without reinstallation?
02:17<Coveny>Zaba: I don't think anything, I'm asking to see what I should do
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02:21<simonlnu>Coveny: um, it'll work.
02:22<simonlnu>Coveny: only difference is whether or not they differ in arch
02:22<Coveny>simonlnu: how do I do a reinstall as I cant find any info
02:22<Zaba>Coveny, it should work as-is without reinstallation
02:23<Zaba>you can run into unexpectedness with persistent device namings: look into /etc/udev/rules.d
02:23<Zaba>well, if you're changing architectures, then you _do_ need to reinstall..
02:23<Zaba>if you have a manually configured kernel, you need to manually reconfigure it
02:24<simonlnu>eh, Zaba's got it handled :)
02:24<Zaba>if your old and new systems differ in amount of storage devices, you need to do just as you would if you were adding/removing them to a single system
02:24<Zaba>(that is, take special care, of the bootloader, etc.)
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02:27<Coveny>ok will put the hdd in the new box and see what happends
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02:37<zsolt>hi there.got a really frustrating problem.Installed postfix in a virtual machine,everything is configured but can't reach from outside the vm
02:41<Coveny>It gives me the grub then it gives me a text saying something like loading initial ramdisk and then its just a black screen and nothing happends
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02:42<simonlnu>'happens'. probably some video issue. and likely need to rebuild the initrd. you can do that on the old box.
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02:47<simonlnu>just means you'll need to do a bit of prep, that's all
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02:54<EmleyMoor>I'm considering major hardware replacement to get round a problem running VMs, and also video freezes. Any graphics cards on the market that work particularly well with Debian, or any to avoid?
02:58<EmleyMoor>(though if I could solve the VM problem instead, I'd like to - I get lots of DMA timeouts on the emulated IDE, and very slow performance indeed - triedd with both kvm and virtualbox0
02:58<EmleyMoor>)
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03:26<EmleyMoor>Is there anygood reliable way to have two IPv4 networks on the same ethernet card? (very different numbers)
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03:27<EmleyMoor>I tried to do this before and ended up with no network... maybe I did something wrong? Either that or it's not possible...
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03:32<zsolt>somebody help me please.telnet domain 25 doesn't work outside my vm.I use postfix
03:32<zsolt>mx records set up correctly
03:33<EmleyMoor>zsolt: How is your VM connnected to the network?
03:33<zsolt>bridged
03:33<zsolt>telnet ip 25 works,but with domain got errors
03:34<EmleyMoor>What errors exactly?
03:34<zsolt>domain not found
03:34<zsolt>but with nslookup domain returns me that it works
03:35<EmleyMoor>zsolt: I don't think you're supposed to be able to telnet to the domain name in that way
03:35<EmleyMoor>nslookup domain returns what exactly?
03:35<simonlnu>you can, of course. just like a web browser
03:36<musca>EmleyMoor: for using multiple networks you could create virtual network interfaces named eth0:1, eth0:2... eth0:n.
03:36<zsolt>Name: mail.test.local
03:36<zsolt>Address: 192.168.1.107
03:37<EmleyMoor>musca: ... and watch it blow up in my face
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03:37<EmleyMoor>(it happened before)
03:37<musca>EmleyMoor: ah, you tried that?
03:38<simonlnu>it works, just gotta have dns working ;)
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03:41<EmleyMoor>musca: All practical examples I have seen are using addresses in the same network
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03:42<musca>EmleyMoor: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Multiple_IPs
03:42<EmleyMoor>In fact, some web pages even say that has to be the case
03:43<musca>^ this source does show diffrent networks
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03:45<EmleyMoor>I'll look into that
03:45<musca>at the bottom is a paragraph about complications
03:46<EmleyMoor>musca: Note that "network dies the death" is not mentioned...
03:50<EmleyMoor>Admittedly, this is only going to be a relatively temporary measure - I will be getting native IPv6 as soon as doing so will not be a problem financially...
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03:58<shogun1234>when i press tab auto complete will simple change variable from e.g. $JAVA_HOME to \$JAVA_HOME
03:59<shogun1234>what might cause such problem?
03:59<shogun1234>or any place I can check if anything goes wrong?
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04:54<TheLaughingMan>Quick question, I am trying to do a setfacl on a directory however I want files to be rw and directories to be rwx and for them to default as such as well. I tried looking around but setting permissions is overly complicated
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04:55<TheLaughingMan>And now everythign is rwx
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05:17<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... this is looking good - made two network cards redundant... thought it had all broken but it turned out to be a loose wire
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05:22<EmleyMoor>Are aliased eth interfaces able to form part of a bridge without problems?
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05:30<zsolt>seems that bind9 configured well,nslookup returns that it is working,but when i try to ping domain it says host not found.help me please,i'm stuck
05:31<devil>http://fosdem.org/2012/news/video-streaming-urls
05:31<zsolt>that's why can't use my mail system
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05:36<EmleyMoor>Can my eth0:0 be part of a bridge?
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05:47<kikinovak>Hi. I want to invoke the command 'squidGuard -C all' as user proxy. In interactive mode, I simply do '# su proxy $ squidGuard -C all $ exit '. Q: how would I put this in a script, as a one-liner ?
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05:47<kikinovak>Something like 'run the command squidGuard -C all as user proxy' ?
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05:52<Zareh>i have configured L2TPD and what i get is "ERROR: netlink XFRM_MSG_DELPOLICY response for flow eroute_connection delete included errno 2: No such file or directory "
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05:54<Zareh>if there are more than one connections to server then i have to restart the service to reconnec t again
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05:55<EmleyMoor>I now have two networks running over one card. If I want to add a bridge for VMs, can I attach it to the aliased interface?
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06:26<infinity0>how do i list all the files on a system not maintained by dpkg?
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06:30<stummi>infinity0: afaik there is a tool for sowhat. May you can build something with dpkg -l, dpkg -L, find and combine?
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06:40<ocalm>Hey everybody, Im new on debian and I have one problem.. I got 2 graphics cards (ati-intel) and I want shutdown the ati graphic card how can I do please ?
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06:41<babilen>ocalm: You need to do that in your BIOS (if possible)
06:42<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... no - new sound card still needed
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06:43<EmleyMoor>ocalm: Is the ATI onboard or a card?
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06:44<ocalm>What do you mean by onboard or a card?
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06:45<ocalm>Im on a laptop
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06:45<zsolt>i figured out my problem.on other machines I can ping mydomain,except on my debian machine can't.
06:46<philipp>guys is there a way to get wine 1.3 running on squeeze?
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06:46<EmleyMoor>OK - so you may not have a way to find out... in that case, check through the bios settings
06:46<zsolt>I recomend playonlinux than manage wine versions
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06:47<philipp>thx bro
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06:47<babilen>ocalm: I expect your laptop to use a setup in which the intel GPU would be used for less performance hungry applications and the ati one for, say, raytracing, OpenCL or games. I'd recommend to disable one in the BIOS if that is possible and wanted. You might also want to look into "vga switcheroo" (google that), but I have no personal experience with that. You might need a newer Xorg version (the graphical system) which you can install from ...
06:47<babilen>... backports.
06:48<philipp>babilen! my favourite nerd =)
06:48<babilen>o/
06:48<zsolt>how to find out,why can't ping hostname on my debian laptop?
06:49<ocalm>When I was on ubuntu I was using vga switcheroo to disable ati graphic card that is possible on debian?
06:49<philipp>zsolt, it insalls some 3d excelleration...
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06:51<babilen>ocalm: There is nothing that would prevent the tools from being used on Debian. I am, however, not familiar with them and therefore not sure if you need newer versions of certain packages. I would just try it and check if installing a newer Xorg version from backports (/msg dpkg backport) works better if you run into problems with the versions in squeeze.
06:52<philipp>zsolt, it tells me there is a newer version of playonlinux available but not how to upgrade...
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06:53<zsolt>you have to download from it's website a precompiled deb package
06:53<zsolt>because the newest is not in the debian mirror
06:53<zsolt>i think
06:54<philipp>zsolt, not gonna happen... i dont risk to compromise my entire system for an upgrate... i suppouse the current version will be fine
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06:54<zsolt>you can manage wine versions just select the version you want
06:55<philipp>zsolt, already done and makeing good progress... tell you when im stuck again
06:55<zsolt>have a nice day!
06:56<philipp>zsolt, how to find out my graphic cards memory?
06:57<philipp>someone else is free to answer too =)
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06:58<zsolt>would you like to know the amount of vram do you have?
06:58<perry>hi
06:59<perry>timer in linux
06:59<philipp>zsolt, i think so... it asks me "how much merrory do your graphic card have"
07:00<zsolt>lspci | grep VGA
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07:01<philipp>zsolt, done... it just tells me nvidia cooperation device 1200
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07:04<perry>i want to high resolution timer in linux ?
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07:06<ompaul>perry: use libghc-clocked-doc so see if that lib helps you
07:06<philipp>zsolt, ur takeing too long.. i found it out by myself =)
07:07<perry>ompaul , do u have any example
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07:07<zsolt>you have to install first of all nvidia driver to linux to be able to work with wine
07:08<ompaul>perry: no I have no interest it is what you might want - libghc-clocked-doc libghc-clock-doc - timer functionality to clock IO commands; documentation- High-resolution clock and timer; documentation
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07:09<zsolt>could somebody tell me how to ping mydomain from debian?looks like dns error
07:09<ompaul>zsolt: (A) does not go with (B)
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07:10<ompaul>zsolt: the right command is ping foo.domain.com where foo may or may not exist domain and com could be different also
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07:11<ompaul>zsolt: but you most likely want to type host machine.network.tld
07:11<zsolt>got test.local inside a vbox vm.it is bridged.can ping test.local from a win7 machine,but from my debian laptop I can't do that
07:11<ompaul>which will tell you if you can resolve it
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07:12<shogun1234>anyone knows why when pressing tab, the env variable e.g. $GT_HOME would become \$GT_HOME?
07:12<philipp>it tells me to wait until the game is installed but does not install it...
07:12<zsolt>nslookup test.local works,but ping doesn't
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07:12<ompaul>zsolt: you have (A) hosted on (B), your question really is, how can I get to the box (A) from (C) as I understand it, am I right?
07:13<ompaul>zsolt: all of those are on the home network?
07:13<zsolt>yes
07:13<ompaul>zsolt: yes x2 ?
07:13<zsolt>my problem is the name resolution
07:13<ompaul>zsolt: hang on a moment please answer the question
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07:15<zsolt>no,my question is that why can't ping from my debian based laptop test.local,if it works with a win7 pc.
07:15<zsolt>there are 3 pc-s.a vbox guest inside my debian laptop and a win7 pc
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07:16<zsolt>th wm is bridged,so I can see it from another machine inside my lan
07:16<ompaul>zsolt: host is what has what machine on it?
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07:17<zsolt>host is a debian squeeze,guest is virtualbox with debian squeeze too
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07:18<ompaul>zsolt: (A) can the host ping the virtual box (B) can the virtual box ping the host?
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07:18<zsolt>yes,it works
07:18<ompaul>you can ping the host from another machine?
07:18<zsolt>yes
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07:18<ompaul>can you ping the virtual machine from the virtual box?
07:18<ompaul>sorry
07:18<zsolt>yes
07:18<ompaul>can you ping the virtual machine from another box?
07:19<zsolt>yes,since it's bridged
07:19<ompaul>and can you ping the "another box" from the virtual machine?
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07:19<zsolt>yes
07:19<ompaul>so what is your question?
07:20<ompaul>I'll take it all your pings were ip to ip
07:20<zsolt>but can't ping domain name test.local from debian host
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07:20<zsolt>only with ip can do that
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07:20<auditor>die
07:21<ompaul>auditor: what?
07:21<auditor>excuseme
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07:21<auditor>im sorry
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07:21<ompaul>dyed by his own hair
07:21<philipp>playonlinux dont manage to install mass effect
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07:21<ompaul>zsolt: so you need dns somewhere, and you need to tell all the boxes to use that dns
07:22<ompaul>zsolt: bind9 / named are your friends
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07:23<zsolt>can ping test.local from another box,but can't do that on host
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07:25<ompaul>because that box is / knows what test.local is
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07:26<zsolt>host unknown
07:26<ompaul>zsolt: propagation needs bind9 to be operational and resolv.conf to understand the broadcast
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07:27<zsolt>i did it already nslookup works,ping doesn't
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07:27<Trus>Hello everyone, someone can tell me how mount a my usb flash drive ?
07:28<EmleyMoor>Trus: Normally it would mount on its own... wha filesystem is on it?
07:28<ompaul>zsolt: and pastebin the results from that from each of the machines nothing their own ip from ifconfig thanks
07:29<Trus>it's a truecrypt file container
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07:30<Trus>ntfs for the filesystem
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07:31<zsolt>thank you for your help
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07:37<philipp>hey guys my mouse makes a jump once a while... someone know why?
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07:38<philipp>okey you proberply need more informations then that. Im useing a gameing mouse of razer. once a while when i play the mouse jumps without beeing moved. is there any setting about that?
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07:39<philipp>if you need to know sth ask
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07:40<scorn001>trying to a apt-get dist-upgrade this morning and ending up with errors in /var/lib/dpkg/available - version number does not start with a digit. Any easy workaround?
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07:43<scorn001>trying to a apt-get dist-upgrade this morning and ending up with errors in /var/lib/dpkg/available - version number does not start with a digit. Any easy workaround?
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07:45<devil>nope. nothing easy
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07:45<devil>and that should not happen
07:46<scorn001>I think I just resolved it - dpkg --clear-avail
07:46<scorn001>I guess there was policy change about the middle of last regarding version numbers?
07:46<scorn001>middle of last year, sry
07:46<devil>yes. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version
07:47<scorn001>ah
07:47<ompaul>zsolt: so are you going to pastebin the info I asked for?
07:47<scorn001>This is an old installation that I keep upgrading, probably had some old stuff hanging in dpkg files
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07:48<zsolt>thank you but I think it would be useless information.
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07:49<scorn001>thanks devil
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07:49<devil>scorn001: dpkg --clear-avail might fix it
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07:49<scorn001>y, it did, see above :)
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07:49<devil>scorn001: ah, didnt see that
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07:50<scorn001>thanks again
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07:52<Guest1520>learning about xChat
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08:00<arinov>how can i change kde panel looks?
08:00<arinov>and enable konqueror youtube playback
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08:01<randomness>hi
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08:03<gruetzkopf>hello, i have a old webtv box, i installed debian on it for storage and webradio. my problem is that the output volume of the used Realtek ALC650F is very verly low (barely audible). anyone know how ti fix that?
08:03<gruetzkopf>(all volume settings at 100% ofc)
08:03<FCR2012>Hi all
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08:03<FCR2012>Man MrNoobWarrior is now making viola soft SHIT
08:03<FCR2012>I darn hate him
08:04<FCR2012>Not being rude at all but
08:04<FCR2012>he makes a very crappy Rouge AV
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08:04<FCR2012>and supports that
08:04<FCR2012>and grammar ?
08:04<randomness>I am using xchat 2.8.8 on debian 64 bit and for some reason it's window is redrawing very slowly when restoring from minimized/hidden state
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08:05<randomness>I dont have this issue on gentoo 32 bit or debian 32 bit
08:05<FCR2012>I am using this in my 32 bit linux ubuntu
08:05<FCR2012>11.10
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08:05<randomness>does anyone know possible reason
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08:05<FCR2012>A cool thing that ubuntu 12.04 will be made in my birthday mouth
08:06<FCR2012>If i written wrong
08:06<FCR2012>I am not English
08:07*FCR2012 Hates Violasoft and show the middle finger to MrNoobWarrior
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08:12<scorn001>anyone know what is up with FCR2012? I haven't been in IRC for a while. Is this a bot?
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08:17<randomness>anyone using 64bit xchat here?
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08:18<scorn001>not me, sry.
08:18*arinov use konversation
08:19<scorn001>I use kvirc
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08:36<devil>scorn001: no bot, just a moron.
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08:51<gruetzkopf>any idea on that ALC650F?
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09:05<arinov>is there kde application same as synaptic?
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09:14<li_milish>snypatic is that software for touchpads on notebooks?
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09:24<ompaul>arinov: you can use adept but tbh the best thing to do is learn apt-get or aptitude
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09:36<arinov>ompaul: why the best?
09:37<themill>I don't know that adept has made it into a stable release for a long time
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09:38<ompaul>arinov: because if your gui goes you don't
09:39<ompaul>,adept
09:39<ompaul>,versions adept
09:39<judd>Package: adept on i386 -- sid: 3.0~beta7.2+qa1
09:39<ompaul>arinov: as themill said
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10:01<eightyeight>li_milish: no
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10:18<randomness>anyone using xchat on 64bit debian here?
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10:20<dtw>!anyone
10:20<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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10:23<srtu>just ask youre question randomness
10:23<randomness>I am using xchat 2.8.8 on debian 64 bit and for some reason it's window is redrawing very slowly when restoring from minimized/hidden state
10:24<randomness>the chat log is visible instantly but the channel list/user list/input box take upto halfsecond to show
10:24<randomness>it's annoying
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10:33<Maria94>hi all! i've just installed google earth properly but the icon didnt appear in the menu. who can help me please? :(
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10:38<Maria94>hi
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11:01<Maria94>i've just installed google earth properly but the icon didnt appear in the menu. who can help me please?
11:01<sikes>which menu?
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11:04<Maria94>applications - internet ...
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11:07<sikes>Maria94: this would be just a link of some kind that the package google earth ould put in this particular directory for you
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11:08<sikes>depending on you window manager, you can do this manually yourself as well
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11:11<Maria94>where can i find the icon?
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11:12<sikes>whats ypou window manager? gnome , kde and alike would normaly have such stuff somewhere in ~/Desktop/...
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11:18<Maria94>gnome
11:18*sikes uses KDE
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11:19<sikes>but ~/Desktop will still contain all dedicated setting for a particular user
11:19<Maria94>there should be a command to add the icon
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11:20<sikes>using the right mousebutton while hovering over your toolbar will probably give youy options here
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11:20<sikes>but you will still need to know where the google earth binary is located in your file system
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11:23<Maria94>how can i find it?
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11:24<sikes>Maria94, look at the package u installed from, there will be some hints
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11:25<sikes>u might want to open a terminal and start it manually
11:26<sikes>(it will probably be called googlesomething)
11:26<sikes>so typing google and then hitting the tab key will give you all options in the execute path
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11:27<sikes>once you know the name, you can type: which <whatertheprogramiscalled>
11:27<sikes>and the shell will return the complete path
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11:29<Maria94>idk
11:30<Maria94>ill wait Black_Prince he knows the command ^^
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11:36<EmleyMoor>Is there a list anywhere of graphics cards supported by nouveau?
11:40<randomness>is there a way to generate a list of curretntly installed gtk engines
11:40<sney->EmleyMoor: it spools into the X log when nouveau is loaded, so it must be around somewhere
11:40<randomness>and currently active one
11:41<sney->randomness: probably gconftool something or other
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11:46<Sicelo>EmleyMoor: try 'man nouveau' (wild guess.. i know 'man intel' works)
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11:47<Black_Prince>hm what
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11:48<EmleyMoor>I might just hold off - I think all my problems may actually be down to this motherboard...
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11:49<Sicelo>maybe if u stated your 'real' problem EmleyMoor, someone could help better (not necessarily me)
11:50<EmleyMoor>Well, basically poor performance... video freezes - including one that persisted until reboot - and VM slowness with DMA timeouts being reported in the VMs.
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12:00<kayla>hello snyone there
12:00<kayla>hello anyone on
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12:01<EmleyMoor>Yes, of course...
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12:02<brisket12>Hi,
12:02<EmleyMoor>Hi - can we help you?
12:02<brisket12>I just downloaded 6.0.4 and it went great but when I try to play a dvd with xine it says:
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12:03<brisket12>Read error from: Error reading NAV packet
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12:03<brisket12>down you know how i can resolve this?
12:03<brisket12>ive tried searching for a resolution but couldn't find one
12:03<EmleyMoor>Any other error messages? Have you set the drive's region correctly?
12:04<brisket12>hmm not sure
12:04<brisket12>thats the only error
12:04<EmleyMoor>Have you used the drive before (with some other OS?)
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12:04<brisket12>yes i was playing around with puppy linux and it worked fine
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12:05<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... so, not that, then...
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12:05<brisket12>I see the lanquage is set to en and the region is set to 1
12:05<brisket12>I'm not sure what it should be i'm in the US, in Texas
12:05<EmleyMoor>Region 1 in US
12:06<EmleyMoor>Have you got libdvdcss2 installed?
12:06<brisket12>well that should be good then. i bought the dvd here. I think so
12:06<EmleyMoor>!dmm
12:06<dpkg>[dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>.
12:06<brisket12>?
12:06<EmleyMoor>You will find that package in there
12:07<brisket12>type !dmm in the terminal?
12:07<EmleyMoor>No
12:07<EmleyMoor>Look at what dpkg said and follow it
12:07<brisket12>ok
12:07<Maria94>who knows how to add google earth icon to the menu pls pls pls
12:08<Maria94>i installed google earth on my pc but the icon didnt appear :(
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12:12<EmleyMoor>Maria94: You could probably create a file in ~/.menu to do it...
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12:13<Maria94>how?
12:13<Maria94>help me pls im noob in linux... ^^
12:14<EmleyMoor>Maria94: Let me set one up - I could do with it too...
12:14<Maria94>ok :)
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12:18<mihaibarbu>hello
12:18<Maria94>hi
12:19<zsolt>hi there.still stuck.my debian laptop can't resolve my local domain.however dig or nslookup returns the correct values.
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12:19<mihaibarbu>I have a problem with ATI video card
12:19<zsolt>resolv.conf is ok
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12:19<mihaibarbu>some sites not working flash player
12:19<zsolt>got two other pc-s and they work great
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12:21<zsolt>ping doesn't work nor icedove
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12:23<voodoo>hi I'm trying to install a program, it is in java when I run the installer it executes a java file...then it fails saying: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /tmp/mathworks_6432/java/jre/glnxa64/jre/lib/amd64/xawt/libmawt.so: libXext.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
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12:23<voodoo>it is matlab
12:24<voodoo>but that library does'nt come with it...so??...
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12:24<voodoo>I've search in internet but there is nothing about it :(
12:24<Zaba>voodoo, do you perhaps need to install libxext6?
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12:25<voodoo>yeah but...that's my ask how...because
12:25<Zaba>although, it would be odd if it wasn't already installed, assuming you have X
12:25<voodoo>so?
12:26<Maria94>EmleyMoor: you done?
12:26<voodoo>the installer searchs libxext.so.6 in the directory that comes with matlab...
12:26<EmleyMoor>No luck :-(
12:26<voodoo>so?
12:26<EmleyMoor>I'm done but it hasn't taken
12:26<Maria94>what will we do?
12:26<Maria94>:(
12:27<sikes>voodoo: libxext6 is a debian pakage
12:28<sikes>install the package and try again?
12:28<EmleyMoor>You'll have to be content with running it by typing "google-earth" in a terminal window for now
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12:29<EmleyMoor>I can't run it anyway
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12:29<voodoo>I already have it installed
12:30<Maria94>http://paste.debian.net/154878/
12:30<Maria94>i have problems with starting up :(
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12:31<voodoo>the problem is that the installer search it in an specified directory
12:31<EmleyMoor>Well, the same happens for me - perhaps you could report it to Google?
12:31<voodoo>the directory in the iso
12:31<sikes>voodoo: create a symlink in that directory?
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12:32<sikes>voodoo: this might have to do what the way elf linkers work
12:33<sikes>lookin lib path, look in same dir then ...
12:33<voodoo>I tried with the libxext.so.6 that I have...but it is for i386...and here is the strange thing...matlab is installing as 64...so my libxext.so.6 doesn't work.....
12:33<sikes>if the library cannot be found in the libpath ...
12:33<sikes>youtt dist is 32 or 64 :
12:33<sikes>?
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12:34<voodoo>Linux debian 3.1.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jan 10 06:25:07 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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12:34<voodoo>that is 64 isn't it?
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12:34<sikes>voodoo: so your libxext6 must be 64 bit as well ..
12:34<voodoo>nop :(
12:35<voodoo>look
12:35<themill>what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say?
12:35<sikes>look at what dpkg -l | grep libxext6 says
12:36<voodoo>dpkg --print-architecture i386....:S
12:36<dpkg>voodoo: i haven't a clue
12:36<randomness>apparently my gtk engine (clearlooks) is making xchat slow
12:36<voodoo> dpkg -l | grep libxext
12:36<dpkg>ii | grep libxext 3.5-12.2 voodoo's private porn collection
12:36<voodoo>ii libxext-dev 2:1.3.0-3 X11 miscellaneous extensions library (development headers)
12:36<voodoo>ii libxext6 2:1.3.0-3 X11 miscellaneous extension library
12:36<voodoo>ii libxext6-dbg 2:1.3.0-3 X11 miscellaneous extensions library (debug package)
12:37<themill>voodoo: please don't paste into the channel like that.
12:37<voodoo>upps
12:37<voodoo>sorry
12:37<voodoo>http://pastebin.com/YLfR3CD7
12:37<voodoo>the architecture say: i386 :S
12:37<themill>anyway, you have a 32 bit installation of debian not a 64 bit one. Make sure you've got the right matlab
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12:39<voodoo>ooh...thank you so much
12:39<sikes>voodoo: you might want to look at http://code.google.com/p/processing/issues/detail?id=955
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12:41<voodoo>but themill the matlab I get is for 32 || 64...
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12:42<voodoo>http://pastebin.com/CfCxmK1g
12:42<themill>it appears to be trying to install a 64 bit version
12:42<voodoo>look at that...
12:42<themill>how stupid.
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12:42<voodoo>what??
12:42<ele>hi
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12:42<ele>i've installed debian now
12:42<voodoo>themill why stupid? what??
12:43<themill>voodoo: not you, that code. That tells me everything I need to know about that matlab installer and why I prefer to "apt-get install octave"
12:43<ele>ther is a "after installation guide?"
12:43<voodoo>oH...ok...
12:43<ele>(sorry for my english i'm italian!)
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12:43<voodoo>I know themill...but I really need it because my college work with it :S
12:43<themill>!reference
12:43<dpkg>The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. The latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference'
12:43<themill>ele: ^^
12:44<ele>thankyou
12:44<ele>another question.
12:44<ele>is there a italian channel support?
12:44<themill>voodoo: yeah, I understand. You could edit that file to convince it to be less stupid. Or you could install a -686 kernel, reboot into it and see if that fools their silly installer
12:44<ele>lol i've found it!
12:44<ele>ty so muc
12:44<ele>ty so much*
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12:44<themill>ele: sure, there's #debian-it
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12:49<voodoo>ok I'll edit that...
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12:53<voodoo>it worked!!!...thank everyone so much for your help! :)
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12:53<themill>!congratulate voodoo
12:53<dpkg>Hugs & Puppies voodoo, you did it!
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12:59<voodoo>exit
12:59<EmleyMoor>voodoo: No thanks <g>
12:59<voodoo>ups...jejej sorry...that's a consecuence of using terminal...bye all :)
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13:11<zerothis>#debian-games-party empty? can i claim pixbros? already have screen
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13:15<zerothis>oh well, its uploaded now
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13:19<VladOS>qq
13:19<VladOS> 8-)
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13:32<amedeo_>\list
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13:34<vjacob>hiya. how can I ask 'dpkg' to output a list of packages installed without the version number of funny formatting (just the packages)?
13:34<cinch>with the dreamhost outage, does anyone know if they were running debian stable? they had some packages uninstall on a security update
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13:34<vjacob>preferably separated by spaces and nothing more
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13:36<cinch>maybe "dpkg --get-selections"
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13:36<vjacob>cinch: close enough, cheers
13:37<themill>vjacob: you can "/msg dpkg aptitude clone" for another approach.
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13:38<cinch>dpkg --get-selections | awk '{ print $1 }'
13:38<dpkg>cinch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
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13:38<cinch>and add | tr '\n' ' ' to get rid of newlines
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13:39<vjacob>themill: thanks.
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13:47<Maria94>hi all need help i installed google earth on my pc and i didnt get icon in applications- internet :(
13:48<Maria94>there should be a command to write in the terminal but i dont remember :(
13:49<Maria94>black_prince: are you here?
13:49<Black_Prince>yes
13:49<Maria94>im glad you are here ^^
13:49<Maria94>last time you helped me with google earth
13:49<Maria94>what was the command to add to the menu?
13:49<Maria94>=)))
13:49<Black_Prince>ln -s /opt/google/earth/free/google-earth.desktop /usr/share/applications
13:50<Black_Prince>this one?
13:50<Maria94>yee
13:50<Maria94>yahoo
13:50<Black_Prince>no, gmail.
13:51<Maria94>:D
13:51<Maria94>are you real hacker?
13:51<Maria94>=)
13:51<EmleyMoor>I am getting a lot of "WARNING: no network interfaces found" from nmbd at the moment - why would that happen?
13:51<Maria94>you are real genious :)
13:53<Maria94>black_prince: my google earth doesnt open :S
13:53<Maria94>test me pls
13:53<Black_Prince>run google-earth in terminal.
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13:54<grove>It's probably not very debian related, but after I upgraded my vps to squeeze a few hours ago, emacs has been giving me http://pastebin.ca/2109728 when I try to start gnus. Any ideas on what might be wrong, or how to find out?
13:54<Maria94>http://paste.debian.net/154888/
13:54<Maria94>that what i got in the terminal :S
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13:56<Maria94>black_prince: http://paste.debian.net/154888/
13:57<Black_Prince>why do you start it as root?
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13:59<Maria94>http://paste.debian.net/154889/
14:00<Maria94>black_prince: http://paste.debian.net/154889/
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14:01<Black_Prince>what does this file say? /home/maria/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4f2d7fac.txt
14:02<Maria94>bash: /home/maria/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4f2d7fac.txt: Permission denied
14:02<Black_Prince>open it in text editor
14:03<Maria94>nano etc/?
14:04<Black_Prince>yup
14:04<nocturnal>if you get permission denied it would have to be sudo nano though
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14:06<Maria94>http://paste.debian.net/154891/
14:06<Maria94>black_prince:
14:07<Maria94>black_prince: http://paste.debian.net/154891/
14:07<Black_Prince>nano /home/maria/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4f2d7fac.txt
14:07<XayOn>nocturnal: Nope, she tried to execute the file instead reading it xD
14:07<Maria94>ok
14:07<Maria94>^^
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14:08<Maria94>http://paste.debian.net/154894/
14:08<Maria94>black_prince: http://paste.debian.net/154894/
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14:08<Black_Prince>Everything ...
14:09<Black_Prince>What Desktop are you using?
14:09<Maria94>gnome
14:09<Black_Prince>gedit /home/maria/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4f2d7fac.txt
14:09<Black_Prince>and paste EVERYTHING
14:09<Maria94>ok
14:10<Maria94>http://paste.debian.net/154895/
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14:10<Maria94>black_prince: http://paste.debian.net/154895/
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14:11<Black_Prince>No help at all ...
14:11<Black_Prince>Anyways, what graphics driver are you using?
14:11<Maria94>idk
14:12<Maria94>lspci?
14:12<Black_Prince>gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
14:12<Black_Prince>again, paste everything
14:12<Maria94>ok
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14:13<Maria94>http://paste.debian.net/154896/
14:13<Maria94>you are genious!
14:14<Black_Prince>Nothing wrong with that one ...
14:15<Maria94>^^
14:15<Maria94>whats next? :)
14:15<Black_Prince>Don't know.
14:15<Black_Prince>How did you install google earth anyways?
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14:16<Maria94>i downloaded from official web .deb package
14:17<Black_Prince>Hm
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14:17<EmleyMoor>I haven't had it working recently - I think since I switched to nouveau
14:17<Black_Prince>apt-get -f install
14:17<Black_Prince>try that
14:17<Maria94>ok
14:18<Maria94>i did it
14:18<Black_Prince>Any change?
14:18<Maria94>0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
14:18<Maria94>no
14:18<Black_Prince>... Damn
14:18<Maria94>:D
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14:21<Maria94>idk what to do..
14:21<Maria94>:S
14:21<Black_Prince>Me neither.
14:21<Black_Prince>Try reinstalling it, but I doubt it will help
14:21<Maria94>ok
14:22<EmleyMoor>Being a third-party package, there's probably little that can be done
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14:23<Black_Prince>It works here. Even with nouveau
14:23<Black_Prince>But I use backports xorg and kernel
14:23<EmleyMoor>I use backports kernel - not sure about xorg but nouveau itself is one
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14:24<Black_Prince>/msg dpkg bdo xorg
14:24<Black_Prince>:)
14:24<Maria94>^^
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14:24*EmleyMoor will think about that :-)
14:24<Maria94>prince only u can help mr
14:24<Maria94>me*
14:25<Maria94>how to uninstall google earth>
14:25<Black_Prince>apt-get purge google-earth-stable
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14:28<Maria94>oh
14:28<Maria94>Jesus Christ
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14:29<Maria94>maybe i need to restart my pc?
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14:30<Black_Prince>Why?
14:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 505] by debhelper
14:30<Maria94>idk maybe
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14:30<Black_Prince>Did you reinstall google-earth?
14:30<Maria94>yes
14:30<Maria94>the same prob
14:31<Black_Prince>you messed up somewhere
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14:31<Maria94>or better install gentoo on my pc?
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14:31<nocturnal>http://pastebin.com/v5sgFMM9 why would this happen? on mipsel
14:31<Maria94>or it will be hard?
14:31<nocturnal>wheezy/sid
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14:32<Black_Prince>dpkg: gentoosmite Maria94
14:32*dpkg spends 6 days recompiling Maria94, and when it's all done, Maria94 runs 0.8% faster than previously
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14:33<Maria94>gentoo is better?
14:33<nocturnal>yes
14:33<Maria94>is it hard to install?
14:33<Black_Prince>yes.
14:33<nocturnal>quite large gentoo channel on freenode incidentally
14:33<nocturnal>#gentoo
14:33<Mike632T>that depends on your defination of 'better'..
14:34<Maria94>i need google earth to be working
14:34<Maria94>thats all :D
14:36<nocturnal>oh it works now, I got the right version
14:36<nocturnal>just had to update, upgrade
14:36*EmleyMoor is in the middle of moving to a fully backports xorg
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14:37<Maria94>how many days will take to install gentoo>
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14:38<Black_Prince>depends on your hardware
14:38<Maria94>i have lenovo s10e
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14:38<Maria94>thats netbook
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14:39<Maria94>what is the best os for the netbook?
14:39<Maria94>distro*
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14:42<EmleyMoor>Noticeable speed increase
14:45<EmleyMoor>Google Earth still crashes
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14:56<Sicelo>EmleyMoor: bacports xorg is good. it 'solved' my issue with intel gfx card
14:56<EmleyMoor>It's not provably solved anything for me yet but seems better at first glance
14:57<Sicelo>yeah. i still had to do a few other 'hacks' but now i'm having a nice 1600x900 display ;)
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14:59<EmleyMoor>At least it hasn't hosed fuse-sdl :-)
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14:59<newlinuxuser>Hi all
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15:00<newlinuxuser>anyone here?
15:00<Sicelo>yeah
15:00<Sicelo>just ask
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15:00<newlinuxuser>since im a beginner, and im gonna install debian to my computer
15:01<newlinuxuser>im worried about that if anything goes wrong or bad can i always reinstall windows back with discs which came with my computer which automaticly format my HDD and install it
15:01<EmleyMoor>newlinuxuser: Yes, you can.
15:01<newlinuxuser>thanks and
15:02<newlinuxuser>other question
15:02<newlinuxuser>i have usb stick
15:02<newlinuxuser>i downloaded the debian_6.0.4_CD1.iso
15:02<EmleyMoor>It would be better if you stopped pressing "Enter" so often... use punctuation marks creatively instead.
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15:03<newlinuxuser>then i renamed it debian_6.0.4_CD1.img and then i used Win32 Image Writer to put it to my USB stick
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15:03<Sicelo>:/
15:03<newlinuxuser>Should Debian install fine from the USB
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15:03<EmleyMoor>newlinuxuser: Provided the machine boots it OK, yes
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15:04<newlinuxuser>So it should work and not start searching files from CD-ROM since i dont have any CD's i decided to use USB
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15:04<EmleyMoor>It should indeed, if it boots at all
15:04<newlinuxuser>Yes, it boots
15:05<newlinuxuser>And installer finds all installer parts.
15:05<EmleyMoor>I have a motherboard that can't boot from USB - at least, as far as I know... but it's a good way with most these days.
15:06<newlinuxuser>Can i disconnect from internet and put it back after install, or should that network configuration be done in install?
15:06<newlinuxuser>Because i dont use the Netinstall version
15:06<Sicelo>u can do it after install
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15:07<EmleyMoor>Having an Internet connection active during install is helpful, but not essential in your case.
15:07<EmleyMoor>Setting it up afterwards is fine
15:07<newlinuxuser>Well the reason i dont want internet in install is that my ZyXEL router is bad and disconnects randomly, so i dont wanna install go wrong because of internet disconnecting
15:08<EmleyMoor>Fair enough :-)
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15:08<EmleyMoor>I've installed on unconnected machines before
15:08<newlinuxuser>Is it enough to just put my LAN cable to computer after install?
15:09<Sicelo>yes newlinuxuser.
15:09<Sicelo>depending if your card has drivers
15:09<EmleyMoor>(back in the days of slink!)
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15:09<newlinuxuser>And is it normal to have low resolution in graphical install, my graphics card is an AMD HD 6670 by ASUS
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15:10<EmleyMoor>newlinuxuser: Yes, that's not unusual
15:10<Sicelo>newlinuxuser: debian is very likely to work on your machine. i think u should install in the meantime and fix any issues that come up once u have installed
15:10<Sicelo>:)
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15:11<newlinuxuser>So after bootup, i should have all resolutions on 1920x1080 on my screen etc.. My specs are: AMD A6-3600, ASUS Radeon HD 6670, 4GB RAM. Is this computer compatible with Debian
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15:11<EmleyMoor>newlinuxuser: You may need special drivers to get best performance - but you will get to a point where you can do things
15:12<Sicelo>newlinuxuser: u might have lower resolution. no one knows what will happen. but u will probably be able to simply set correct resolution thereafter
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15:12<newlinuxuser>Yes, i know ATI drivers should be installed for best peformance. But i have used Ubuntu before Debian, and it always had 1920x1080 resolution. :P
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15:13<newlinuxuser>And the main reason switch from Ubuntu to Debian is that Debian uses GNOME2.
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15:13<devil>not for that long
15:13<dvs>newlinuxuser: next version will use Gnome 3
15:13<EmleyMoor>You ought to be fine, newlinuxuser
15:14<Sicelo>ok. then your debian will work in the meantime, by the looks of things
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15:14<newlinuxuser>Well im gonna use Debian so long as 6 version is supported with GNOME2
15:15<Sicelo>newlinuxuser: u need to just do it. install. if u have issues afterwards, we're here to help. they say 'don't cross a bridge till u get to it' for a good reason :)
15:15<newlinuxuser>ok, now im gonna go install it
15:16<newlinuxuser>bye i come here after its installed, i hope it works =)
15:16<Sicelo>newlinuxuser: i'm actually a noob .. ditched my windows and never looked back. great experience that was
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15:16<EmleyMoor>I have been using Debian for 12 and a half years - never had any serious problems that weren't my own fault
15:16<Sicelo>all the best :)
15:16<dvs>only? ;-)
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15:51<veter>la-la-la
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16:04<simonlnu>lololo
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16:07<jooooo>i cant change my mouse cursor themes...any ideas?
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16:08<jooooo>anyone?
16:08<simonlnu>install one?
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16:10<jooooo>ya
16:10<jooooo>i downloaded the files o my desktop, but i cant chage anything
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16:15<kids>hello
16:15<kids>list
16:15<kids>window
16:15<kids>#list
16:15<daemonkeeper>It's /quit
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16:25<jooooo>anyone help with changing mouse cursors..?
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16:30<zykotick9>jooooo: if you use ubuntu, keep it in the #ubuntu channel (FYI compiz seems to affect mouse cursors for some reason, but if you use Unity then disabling compiz isn't really an option)
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16:43<EXio`shell>BlouBlou: :3
16:43<BlouBlou>Hi, how can I install Debian in my guitar? I want to have a freesource-instrument and I decided Debian because "Tony el Gordo" told me that is the best OS. roflmao, Debian is a good OS if you're gonna use it in WC, but not in a productivity PC.
16:44<BlouBlou>well have to go, bye, this is not helpful
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16:47<objeto>o3o
16:47<EXio`shell>objeto: .w.
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16:50<objeto>x.o
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16:51<objeto>como para guardar mi debian en cajita?
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16:56<zsolt>hi there.I accidentaly messed up my apache config files.how to reinstall them?apt-get purge remove then apt-get install apache2 wont't help.thank you!
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16:59<gsimmons>dpkg: tell zsolt -about confmiss
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17:00<gsimmons>zsolt: The configuration files are owned by the apache2.2-common package, not apache2.
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17:03<zsolt>thank you
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17:06<lp>if a package meant to prevent brute-force attacks (password guessing) by blocking intruders, but it doesn't take any action due to bugs, and without making the system more insecure than if it wasn't installed at all… does that justify filing a bug with the "security" tag?
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17:16<li_milish>or: if a package meant to be to prevent something and it does not so it is a security reason
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17:23<lp>li_milish: thanks, i'll file a "security" bug then - i was unsure what's acceptable
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17:43<Y_Ichiro>does anyone know how to get the ubuntu like font rendering on debian?
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18:02<scorn001>I've got a problem where the KDE screensaver is not starting automatically. Manually (by locking screen) works fine. I did set the timeout for various values, none seem to work.
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18:02<scorn001>Any ideas?
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18:12<scorn001>I've got a problem where the KDE screensaver is not starting automatically. Manually (by locking screen) works fine. I did set the timeout for various values, none seem to work.
18:13<devil>scorn001: look at xset --help
18:15<scorn001>I disabled dpms previously, is this what you are alluding to?
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18:16<scorn001>Monitor never goes into sleep or standby, screen just does nothing, desktop stays up and nothing happens unless I manually activate
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18:16<Wortox>Hey all. Is there anyway to get flash 11 in squeeze ?
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18:17<devil>Wortox: is flash installed?
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18:18<devil>Wortox: precisly: flash-plugin-nonfree
18:18<Wortox>devil: you go strait to the source. Thought it was installed by default when i picked the desktop setup.
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18:18<devil>Wortox: its nonfree, wont come preinstalled
18:19<Wortox>devil: Good point
18:19<devil>Wortox: adjust your sources.list and install it
18:19<Wortox>thx ill seach for the source list with that in it. Got a few problems with a few websites hopefully this will help
18:20<scorn001>devil: I disabled dpms previously, is this what you're alluding to?
18:20<devil>Wortox: etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
18:21<devil>Wortox: append contrib non-free to the first line
18:21<Wortox>Knew that, found a repository generator
18:21<devil>ouch
18:21<devil>then: apt-get update && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
18:22<Wortox>yes, also put dist-upgrade in there
18:23<Wortox>Love debian, so easy, wasnt just sure it was posible anymore
18:23<devil>in there?
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18:26<Wortox>thought it would be nice to see if there was any new packages. But no. Did get this error on the install command
18:26<Wortox>ERROR: wget failed to download http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.i386.pgp.asc
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18:33<devil>hm
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18:35<ShawnFree>why is it when reformatted after reinstalling apache and php when i go to my site it attempts to dl php files. i mean i have read alot into it on the net but nothing thusfar as worked toward fixing the problem for me
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18:38<themill>ShawnFree: have you installed libapache2-mod-php5?
18:38<ShawnFree>yes
18:38<themill>have you tested it with wget or curl rather than a browser?
18:39<ShawnFree>not sure how to go about that :\
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18:39<themill>wget http://yourserver/somefile.php
18:39<ShawnFree>well wont that just dl the file from the server :\
18:41<ShawnFree>wait i think you are misunderstanding me.
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18:43<ShawnFree>im actually using windows first off and cant use wget and my server box is running deb 6.0.4 but the issue is something to do with the configs so i have read. but when i visit my site it says download application/x-httpd-php (30 bytes)
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18:43<themill>ShawnFree: most of the time this "problem" is your browser being annoying and there isn't really a problem to solve.
18:44<themill>You can just log into the server itself and run wget there.
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18:45<ShawnFree>so wget 127.0.0.1/somefile.php ? whats that going to accomplish
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18:46<themill>it will tell us whether it's your browser or your webserver that is the problem. You'll need the http:// in there too
18:46<raylu>does anyone have experience configuring QoS? i tried looking online but all i found were a bunch of `tc` commands to run; not much in the way of explanataion
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18:47<ml|>ShawnFree: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm
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18:49<ShawnFree>okay it downloaded the file. but its not the downloading im having the problem with its the fact that the server isnt diplying the pages its just asking me to download them
18:49<anbe>ShawnFree, is php5 listed in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ? otherwise run a2enmod php5
18:49<ShawnFree>yes it is
18:50<themill>ShawnFree: can you pastebin the entire output from wget?
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18:50<ShawnFree>--2012-02-04 17:47:03-- http://127.0.0.1/index.php
18:50<ShawnFree>Connecting to 127.0.0.1:80... connected.
18:50<ShawnFree>HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
18:50<ShawnFree>Length: 30 [application/x-httpd-php]
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18:51<ShawnFree>oops didnt realize you said pastebin
18:52<themill>ShawnFree: yeah, please don't paste into the channel. But from what we saw, we at least know that it's your server that needs sorting.
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18:53<ShawnFree>its just odd cause i installed the same pkgs this time as last and it didnt do this last time :\
18:53<themill>Have you made changes to the apache configuration?
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18:54<ShawnFree>nope this is a completely clean install. formatted installing only ssh and then used aptitude install to install the rest
18:54<ShawnFree>havnt edited anything
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19:07<anonimo>buenas noches
19:07<ShawnFree>everything i have read on this problem tells me to add AddType application/x-httpd-php .php and similar things to the httpd.conf and the php cfgs i have tried that and it did nothing so i reformatted again thinking that it would help and it is still doing the same thing
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19:08<themill>ShawnFree: installing libapache2-mod-php5 should be all that you need to do.
19:09<themill>what does "apache2ctl -M" say?
19:09<ShawnFree>i did and still isnt working. this all started happening when i ugraded from lenny
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19:10<ShawnFree>http://paste.debian.net/154950/
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19:12<themill>ShawnFree: Looks fine. Was "http://127.0.0.1/index.php" the exact URL that you used with wget?
19:12<ShawnFree>yea
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19:13<ShawnFree>i mean if it helps you any i can give you my no ip domain
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19:14<ShawnFree>im that way you could run the wget :\
19:14<ShawnFree>although i dont think that would make a difference
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19:17<TheLaughingMan>Can someone help me out I am having issues setting up virtual IPs on a debian server
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19:19<EmleyMoor>TheLaughingMan: What's the problem?
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19:19<alsatan>hy anyone??
19:20<alsatan>can i ask you something?? about logging root
19:20<alsatan>??
19:20<EmleyMoor>alsatan: Just state your problem - if anyone can help, they will
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19:21<alsatan>i can't log into root on terminal :(
19:21<EmleyMoor>alsatan: What happens?
19:21<alsatan>and if i type apt-get install ****** it says if i'm root
19:22<themill>ShawnFree: I've run out of things to check here. It sounds like you're doing everything right. I presume you've checked the apache logs and the don't tell you anything?
19:22<alsatan>i'm new on ubuntu...
19:23<alsatan>how i control the apache???
19:23<ShawnFree>you know actually i havent do'ph brb
19:23<EmleyMoor>alsatan: You are not ShawnFree so that was not for you
19:23<EmleyMoor>alsatan: What happens when you try to log in as root?
19:24<themill>alsatan: I'll guess that you were looking for #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net. In xchat, it's called "ubuntu servers"
19:24<alsatan>lets say if i type sudo root
19:24<alsatan>sudo: root: command not found
19:25<EmleyMoor>alsatan: That's not how you use sudo
19:25<TheLaughingMan>What commands can I do with ip addr add
19:25<EmleyMoor>alsatan: Besides, if using ubuntu, this is not the right channel
19:26<alsatan>EmleyMoor, ok thanks.. i'll go to ubuntu
19:26<alsatan>right now i've seen that is debian :D
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19:30<kayla>hello is anyone there
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19:31<EmleyMoor>kayla: Yes, always
19:32<kayla>hey so what u doing
19:32<EmleyMoor>This is where we help people with Debian - provided they are seeking help in English
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19:40<kayla>u fuckin humper haha bye
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19:43<xubuntu5>any recommendations for debian distros?
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19:49<NotproN>hello guys i want to start using linux, i have a macbook and i wish i could dual boot on it. Someone here does that kind of thing?
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19:53<ShawnFree>i mean just incase someone has this problem in the future
19:54<themill>ShawnFree: hmm... that shouldn't actually make any difference at all. But if you're now sorted, that's all good.
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21:59<cocytus>Looking for a a iceweasel that will randomly change my UI in the deb repos. Any suggestions.?
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22:00<cocytus>iceweasel plugin that is.
22:05<EagleScreen>hi
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22:11<cocytus>What I meant to say is a FF/IC plugin that will randomly send fake header about the browser I am using.
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22:14<cocytus>I want to do this for privacy and difficulty in tracking me.
22:14<philipp>hey guys... is there a easy way to encrypt a harddrive of mine on linux?
22:15<dondelelcaro>philipp: yes
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22:17<cocytus>philipp when setting up your system you can pick full disk encryption. Only the boot is is not encrypted. I would REALLY not trust TrueCrypt.
22:17<philipp>dondelelcaro, nice... i wanna have my secound harddrive encrypted.
22:17<philipp>cocytus, not my system... an other empty harddrive
22:18<cocytus>Yes that is easy to do. I chain load mine. There are a few good guides on the net.
22:19<dondelelcaro>philipp: see cryptsetup and cryptmount
22:20<cocytus>yes I would agree with dondelelcaro on that one
22:21<cocytus>If you happen to be using an SSD based on Sandforce I would think twice about it though.
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22:26<philipp>were do i search for it?
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22:33<dondelelcaro>philipp: those are commands in the package cryptmount and cryptsetup respectively
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22:35<philipp>dont get it sry?
22:35<philipp>are that packages?
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22:40<Gerowen>Every time I touch the mousepad on my laptop, the click function gets stuck down, rendering me unable to click on anything and just highlighting text. Plugging in an external mouse after it's bugged out doesn't fix it. Any ideas? The mousepad appears clean and isn't damaged.
22:41<cocytus>philipp an example would be something like sudo cryptsetup -y --cipher aes-xts-plain --key-size 512 luksFormat /dev/yourdrive.
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22:44<cocytus>I like xts. Also to prevent colletions you should think about your hash having a size of twice size (sha 512 with AES256)
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22:46<cocytus>As paranoid as I am I don't trust SHA since the NSA told NIST it was good =P
22:47<cocytus>and we all know just how crappy sha-1 was.
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23:11<Duber>hello
23:12<Duber>I'm having problems to detect a usb stick, whereas an external hdd connected by usb aswell is detected fine
23:12<Duber>on a different machine works, so its not the stick itself
23:14<Duber>any clue what could it be ? before it used to work
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23:46<kop>Duber: How are you mounting it? Do you have automounting turned on in your desktop? What does dmesg say about the device name? (I may not be here to see your answers but these are the questions you need.)
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23:47<Duber>kop thanks for answering, I have automount but is not recognized at all so can't mount it manually either. dmesg recognizes usb ports but not the usb stick when attached
23:47<martin>hi ???
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23:48<kop>Duber: If you don't see it in dmesg then the kernel's not seeing it. That's a problem.
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23:49<Duber>kop indeed, but if instead of this stick I attach an external hdd it works
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23:49<kop>Duber: It's probably to do with the amount of power supplied over the usb bus. Does the drive have it's own psu?
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23:50<Duber>kop the one that doesn't work nope, but it used to work anyway
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23:50<kop>Duber: Depends on the hardware that you plug it into how much power it will really get.
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23:51<Duber>kop yeah but I mean that time ago this same stick into this same computer worked perfectly
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23:59<food>ummmm who is good at debuging no sound on intel conexant analog
23:59<food>intel hd audio
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