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00:23 | <dpc1111> | !quit |
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00:54 | <kamiro> | Hallo :D |
00:55 | <kop> | kamiro: Hello. If you've a debian question just ask. |
00:55 | <kamiro> | o.o |
00:55 | <kamiro> | thanks |
00:56 | <kamiro> | do you know about the linux-headers packages? |
00:57 | <kop> | !anyone |
00:57 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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01:06 | <kamiro> | !smart questions |
01:06 | <dpkg> | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
01:06 | <engla> | esr bleh |
01:06 | <kop> | kamiro: Just ask the channel. If you don't get an answer wait a while. |
01:09 | <kamiro> | I know that i want to ask |
01:09 | <kamiro> | but my english is bad... |
01:09 | <kamiro> | i'm thinking about this |
01:10 | <jm_> | just ask and if it's unclear we will ask for clarification etc. |
01:10 | <kamiro> | well, thank you very much |
01:10 | <kop> | kamiro: Or you could tell us your native language and we might be able to direct you to a channel in that language. |
01:10 | <kamiro> | i want to install the privative drivers of nvidia |
01:11 | <kop> | kamiro: There are packages in non-free. |
01:11 | <kamiro> | manually |
01:11 | <kop> | !nvidia |
01:11 | <dpkg> | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
01:11 | <jm_> | kamiro: please don't use nvidia .run files |
01:11 | <kamiro> | then, i must install "linux-headers" |
01:12 | <kamiro> | no? |
01:12 | <jm_> | no, use debian packages |
01:12 | <kamiro> | oh, i see |
01:12 | <jm_> | see above - newer version for squeeze is available in backports |
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01:12 | <kamiro> | i'm using wheezy |
01:14 | <kamiro> | my question is whether there are still packages "linux headers"? |
01:14 | <kamiro> | beacuse apt-get told me that it don't exists |
01:15 | <torstein> | maybe you need the hyphen? |
01:15 | <engla> | kamiro: apt-cache search linux-headers |
01:16 | <kamiro> | Well, thanks, I guess I better be installing the free drivers. |
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01:17 | <kop> | kamiro: Tell engla the output of the command he asked you to type. |
01:17 | <kop> | kamiro: (via a paste) |
01:17 | <kop> | !tell kamiro about paste |
01:18 | <kamiro> | ok, i will do |
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01:19 | <kamiro> | engla: aptitude install nvidia-xconfig nvidia-kernel-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && nvidia-xconfig |
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01:20 | <kamiro> | !nvidia |
01:20 | <dpkg> | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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01:21 | <kamiro> | thank you guys |
01:21 | <kamiro> | I finally found a wiki article that help me |
01:21 | <kamiro> | bye, and thx |
01:21 | <jm_> | no worries |
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02:56 | <noname> | hi |
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03:03 | <lancelot_of> | hi guys |
03:03 | <lancelot_of> | is it possible to rescue Gbytes of data from a broken HD? |
03:03 | <jm_> | depends how broken it is |
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03:05 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, the 'broken level' is that of an HD that shows input/output error so that when i try to backup with rsync a lot of files are not transferred/accessible |
03:05 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: well those files will obviously fail then |
03:06 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, so they're definetly lost?isn't there any other powerful tool to recover them? |
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03:09 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: they usually are yes - it's unlikely you'll be able to read them unless the error is caused by something else |
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03:10 | <jm_> | there are some tools that try to read from a disk with different strategies, but this very very rarely helps |
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03:11 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, thanks anyway for your always valuable support |
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03:16 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: did you check what kernel says when this happens? |
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03:19 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, of course, for example: http://paste.debian.net/156602/ |
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03:20 | <omid> | hi.after the installition of a debian based distro the suse is lost and cannot be shown on bootloader . how can i update grub |
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03:21 | <Laura> | a |
03:21 | <Laura> | ola |
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03:21 | <jm_> | omid: even if you have os-prober package installed? |
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03:22 | <omid> | jm_, how do i update grub? |
03:22 | <jm_> | omid: update it for what? |
03:23 | <omid> | jm_, so that OpenSUSE appears on grub section |
03:23 | <jm_> | omid: answer my question first |
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03:24 | <omid> | jm_, i'm newbie and my english is weak |
03:24 | <jm_> | omid: install the os-prober package, run update-grub, does it detect suse? |
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03:25 | <omid> | jm_, its already installed |
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03:27 | <jm_> | omid: what happens if you run "os-prober" manually? |
03:27 | <Aledecai> | www.loscrafteadores.blogspot.com |
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03:27 | <Aledecai> | minecraft everywhere |
03:28 | <Aledecai> | pls enter |
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03:28 | <gabri> | http//www.fingerboardpracado.blogspot.com |
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03:29 | <Doc0000> | list channel |
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03:31 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, so do you confirm what you argued before? |
03:31 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, based on my paste' |
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03:32 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: if I understand that error then yes, it looks like a bad sector (aren't you using smartd to detect this?) |
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03:38 | <Firdaus> | how to prepare MadWifi on debian Wheezy |
03:38 | <retrospectacus> | !madwifi |
03:38 | <dpkg> | MadWifi is the deprecated, out-of-tree, <non-free> legacy driver for Atheros 802.11a/bg PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Removed from Debian post-Lenny to resolve bug #519446; ask me about <ath5k> or <ath9k> (802.11n). |
03:39 | <jm_> | it is no longer available |
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03:40 | <Firdaus> | jm_ why not available in wheezy and squeezy ? |
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03:41 | <valugi> | good morning. I have a SVN related question. I have a system that is already configured by somebody else and it works. I can access the repositories through svn:// but in the apache /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf everything is commented out and I dont understand how or where this is configured |
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03:41 | <jm_> | Firdaus: see above and check the details: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=519446 |
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03:43 | <retrospectacus> | valugi: svn:// is the svn protocol, it runs on port 3690. apache webdav is a different thing for serving svn through http |
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03:44 | <Aledecai> | www.loscrafteadores.blogspot.com |
03:44 | <valugi> | ok. so I should see this port 3690 open? |
03:45 | <retrospectacus> | maybe, there are other ways to serve svn as well, e.g. ssh |
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03:45 | <valugi> | @retrospectacus so it can be accessed through 22. got it . thanks |
03:46 | <Aledecai> | www.loscrafteadores.blogspot.com |
03:46 | <retrospectacus> | svn co svn+ssh://user@host/path/to/repo |
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03:48 | <retrospectacus> | but you said svn:// worked which should be 3690 |
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03:49 | <valugi> | yes it works. thanks. I'll check to see if the port is open |
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04:03 | <lancelot_of> | where do i find messages shown at boot time?i do not find them in /var/log/syslog or kern.log. I mean just those that are shown in console boot time |
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04:04 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: /var/log/boot if you have bootlogd enabled |
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04:07 | <Thiman> | hey |
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04:08 | <retrospectacus> | Thiman: hello, do you have a debian question? |
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04:24 | <valugi> | @retrospectacus how do I safely open the port 3690? iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3690 -j ACCEPT // this looks ok to you? |
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04:51 | <pleb2> | !spamd |
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04:52 | <lancelot_of> | ok, some other issues. 1) At boot time a i read in console: http://paste.debian.net/156614/ but next sound works properly, running kernel 2.6.39. The same messages are not found loading kernel 3.2. 2)Hibernation (pm-hibernate) doesn't work, 'cause when called, it shuts down (seeming to suspend to disk as expected) but on reboot it doesn't load the image and reboots again as it would never been hibernated. |
04:52 | <lancelot_of> | Any suggestions? |
04:53 | <Devilwitch> | hi all i am Sara how linux is best for old laptop 512 ram |
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04:59 | <babilen> | Devilwitch: That is enough for Debian -- I would, however, recommend to try other (less resource hungry) desktop environment such as LXDE and XFCE or window managers such as fluxbox or awesomewm with it. |
05:00 | <babilen> | !tell Devilwitch -about install debian |
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05:03 | <lancelot_of> | ok, some other issues. 1) At boot time a i read in console: http://paste.debian.net/156614/ but next sound works properly, running kernel 2.6.39. The same messages are not found loading kernel 3.2. 2)Hibernation (pm-hibernate) doesn't work, 'cause when called, it shuts down (seeming to suspend to disk as expected) but on reboot it doesn't load the image and reboots again as it would never been hibernated. |
05:05 | <hotshot> | some pc's require a swap file for suspend to work |
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05:07 | <hotshot> | sound error message could be because you need firmware for the sound chip |
05:07 | <lancelot_of> | hotshot, a swap file?never used on this machine...i only changed HD and this is the new installed debian system |
05:07 | <lancelot_of> | hotshot, so which packages should i install? |
05:08 | <hotshot> | what are you using to install packages |
05:08 | <themill> | you might want GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=/your/swap/partition" in /etc/default/grub |
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05:09 | <hotshot> | you might also need non-free mirror |
05:09 | <hotshot> | apt-get install firmware-linux |
05:10 | <hotshot> | apt-get install firmware |
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05:14 | <Firdaus> | how to connect wireless from CLI Terminal ? |
05:14 | <Firdaus> | but wireleess have password |
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05:19 | <Sicelo> | u need wpa-supplicant |
05:20 | <Sicelo> | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
05:21 | <ao2> | Firdaus, IIRC there is also a nmcli tool in network-manager, but I never used that one myself |
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05:24 | * | Sicelo ditched NM .. i had too many issues with it |
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05:42 | <L551_> | Installed Debian just now, and it feels like I am missing some things. Such as, the Administration options being empty except for going to the login menu. Also, all sound comes out as buzz noises. |
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05:53 | <xun> | just failed to run aptitude update: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/40b4f80c/ any idea why and how to fix it? |
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05:54 | <themill> | xun: this won't stop you installing software but does reduce your ability to search for packages. Is your disk full? |
05:55 | <xun> | themill, no, but I got a kernel panic just before :P |
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05:55 | <themill> | eww |
05:55 | <xun> | indeed |
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05:56 | <xun> | I was thinking about cleaining and rebuilding the whole debtag database, however I dont know how or even if it is possible |
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06:10 | <ayaka> | some reson i want to install debian in mobile,but i can unpack debootsrap,and i dont has dpkg,can some one send the debootstrap content to me? |
06:12 | <jm_> | unpack debootstrap? debootstrap is a command |
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06:33 | <ayaka> | jm_ i have to install it first |
06:34 | <ayaka> | i have done it but it seems android can't run it,i think i need a teal pc |
06:35 | <jm_> | ayaka: you can unpack the deb with ar x foo.deb |
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06:36 | <ayaka> | jm no,but i find a website to do it,but debootstarap can't work |
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06:37 | <mister> | salut |
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06:39 | <Sicelo> | u might also need to root the android first ayaka (maybe u already did.. i'm not sure) |
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06:42 | <ayaka> | rooted |
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06:43 | <ayaka> | my pc has taken by my mom it't hard to find a debian or linux |
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06:50 | <lancelot_of> | ok, my previous issues seem to be fixed, owing also to hotshot and themill |
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06:53 | <lancelot_of> | now it rests just the last one really annoying trouble. In terminals when i recall a previous command with up/down arrow keys, and if a go at the beginning of it with PageUp key, the cursor goes back to the shell prompt '~$', working ASCII on it (del or writing), forcing me to Control-l and start again. Any hint about that? |
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06:55 | <petemc> | lancelot_of: im not sure i understand your question, but to move the cursor to the beginning of a command i use alt b |
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06:57 | <jm_> | i use ctrl-a :) |
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06:57 | <jm_> | but I have never heard of anyone using page-up to go to the beginning - maybe you mean the 'home' key? |
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06:58 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, petemc happens the same with those keystrokes |
06:58 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: is your shell configured for vi keybindings? |
06:58 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, yes, sorry, it was the Home key |
06:58 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, dunno, how to check? |
06:59 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: which shell is it? |
06:59 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, bash |
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06:59 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: use "set -o" command, see what it says for emacs/vi |
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07:00 | <jm_> | actually bind -V seems to be better |
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07:01 | <jm_> | (or bind -v and look for set keymap ...) |
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07:07 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, set -o returns: emacs on vi off |
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07:08 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: ok, what does it print if you press <ctrl-v><home>? did you try using other terminals? |
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07:09 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, the same happens with all terminals (konsole, xterm, terminator) |
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07:10 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, <ctrl-v><home> returns : ^[OH, but i'd like to stress that the same effect takes place also with ctrl-a |
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07:11 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: are you saying even ctrl-a/ctrl-e doesn't work as expected? |
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07:12 | <ayaka> | jm_,Sicelo thank you |
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07:13 | <robert_> | does anybody know the exact repository I can use for non-free for sources.list |
07:13 | <robert_> | i would like to install flash |
07:14 | <petemc> | just append non-free to your existing mirror line |
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07:14 | <jm_> | robert_: 'man sources.list' has an example |
07:15 | <robert_> | jm_, thaks |
07:15 | <lord_rob> | robert_: contrib is useful too |
07:15 | <jm_> | robert_: no worries |
07:17 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, yes |
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07:18 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: try bind -p|grep beginning-of-line |
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07:19 | <lancelot_of> | "\C-a": beginning-of-line |
07:19 | <lancelot_of> | "\eOH": beginning-of-line |
07:19 | <lancelot_of> | "\e[1~": beginning-of-line |
07:19 | <lancelot_of> | "\e[H": beginning-of-line |
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07:20 | <lancelot_of> | sorry |
07:20 | <lancelot_of> | i was wrong |
07:20 | <lancelot_of> | sorry for the (little) paste |
07:20 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, did you read it? |
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07:21 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: yes, looks fine to me |
07:22 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: do you have a prompt with non-visible characters? such as colours, bold, ... |
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07:24 | <lancelot_of> | jm_, yes, i've colours enabled in my .bash_rc and completion |
07:26 | <jm_> | lancelot_of: in that case i'd say your prompt is missing \[ \] where needed, try using prompts from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt |
07:26 | <jm_> | (for testing purposes only) |
07:27 | <jm_> | with zsh I'd just say go with promptinit :) |
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07:30 | <afuentes> | can somebody explain me this point of the faq about packages that contain conf files for other packages? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html#s-interconffiles |
07:31 | <afuentes> | i dont quite get what its supposed to mean |
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07:32 | <jm_> | I think the idea is that a package edits the files using whichever method is applicable and not declaring them as config files belonging to it |
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07:35 | <afuentes> | jm_, in that case it matters the order that the packages are installed in, isnt it? |
07:35 | <jm_> | afuentes: well it has to depend on those packages in either case |
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07:36 | <afuentes> | anyway jm_, if its what you said, its expressed on a very confusing way on the faq :D |
07:36 | <afuentes> | :S* |
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07:36 | <jm_> | afuentes: I agree that it could be described better + I advise you to seek someone else's opinion too |
07:36 | <maxou56800> | Hello! |
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07:38 | <afuentes> | jm_, could you point me to where should i seek for help instead of #debian? |
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07:38 | <afuentes> | maybe debian-mentors? |
07:38 | <jm_> | afuentes: or repeat your question here later |
07:40 | <hkguido> | hi all. first time in this chat |
07:40 | <hkguido> | i'm new to debian |
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07:47 | <Mike1> | why does pasting with middle mousebutton not work anymore as soon as I click anywhere (inputfield etc.)? |
07:47 | <Mike1> | s/anywhere/somewhere/ |
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07:49 | <Iridos> | because you broke your middle mouse button? |
07:49 | <Mike1> | Iridos: it works fine |
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07:52 | <Mike1> | mmmmhhh |
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07:52 | <Mike1> | looks like it only behaves that way in gedit |
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07:55 | <Mike1> | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/34629 =( |
07:55 | <Mike1> | Reported by Tero Karvinen on 2006-03-12 |
07:55 | <Iridos> | look for a debian bug |
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07:57 | <Iridos> | dunno, I can paste into gedit |
07:58 | <Mike1> | Iridos: can you copy and paste in gedit? |
07:58 | <Iridos> | ah, but only from somewhere else |
07:58 | <Mike1> | and click around with left mousebutton? |
07:58 | <Mike1> | yes =( |
07:59 | <Iridos> | no, also inside |
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07:59 | <Adiwan> | Hello. Does anybody have the same problem as me that the flashplugin isn't loading anymore in any browser? The plugin isn't listed in the plugin-tab in Iceweasel. |
07:59 | <Iridos> | but you cannot left-click to set the cursor before you paste |
07:59 | <Iridos> | you just have to move the mouse to the correct place, then middle-click |
07:59 | <Mike1> | exactly |
07:59 | <Mike1> | but that sucks =( |
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08:00 | <Iridos> | welll.... |
08:00 | <Mike1> | severe bug! |
08:00 | <Iridos> | I never heard anybody say gedit was the greatest editor in the world |
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08:00 | <Iridos> | more like a minor bug... copy&paste works, only resetting the cursor empties the buffer |
08:00 | <Iridos> | well, write a patch :) |
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08:01 | <Iridos> | actually, it's not true. I can select text in another program, then left-click in gedit as often as I want, then paste |
08:01 | <jm_> | Adiwan: no, works fine here |
08:01 | <Mike1> | yes |
08:02 | <Mike1> | Iridos: well, what editor do you use? |
08:02 | <Iridos> | vim :) |
08:02 | <Iridos> | or xemacs |
08:02 | <Iridos> | I'm quite democratic that way |
08:02 | <Adiwan> | jm_: yesterday I've updated my packages and today flash didn't load any objects. Then I updated the plugin and now nothing works. |
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08:05 | <jm_> | Adiwan: try starting the browser from a terminal and see if shows any errors |
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08:08 | <Adiwan> | jm_: iceweasel, opera-next and chromium have either no output or the output isn't related to the flash plugin |
08:08 | <Iridos> | Mike1, seems there's no such bug in bugs.debian.org you could write one |
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08:08 | <Adiwan> | jm_: only iceweasel has a little bit in the pluginreg.dat (in the profile folder). It says that the plugin is invalid |
08:09 | <Iridos> | Mike1, also, I wonder what influence the use of this has: autocutsel -s PRIMARY & autocutsel -s CLIPBOARD & |
08:09 | <jm_> | Adiwan: which version of iceweasel is this? |
08:10 | <Adiwan> | I've tested with 10 and 11 |
08:10 | <Iridos> | but not SO curious as to try it :) |
08:10 | <jm_> | i only use 10, one with squeeze the other with wheezy |
08:12 | <Adiwan> | I use a lot of packages from unstable and experimental... |
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08:12 | <jm_> | not sure what to test, start with ldd on libflashplayer.so |
08:13 | <Adiwan> | I try to reroll all updates I made yesterday |
08:14 | <jm_> | maybe try to search BTS too |
08:14 | <Iridos> | Mike1, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=&content=paste /o\ |
08:14 | <devil> | Adiwan: iceweasel 12 is fine here with flash 11.1.102.62 in a sid environment |
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08:14 | <Mike1> | argh, weechat can’t handle long URLs |
08:14 | <Mike1> | or Terminator |
08:15 | <devil> | Adiwan: so is chromium 19.0.1030.0 |
08:15 | <Adiwan> | devil: hm... good to know |
08:15 | <devil> | and i am fully dist-upgraded as of today |
08:15 | <Iridos> | Mike1, how apt... I can't handle the long list after the long url. http://bit.ly/zcgcRB |
08:16 | <Iridos> | seems they got more than one problem with copy&paste :) |
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08:20 | <Mike1> | Iridos: I have a Quest for you: Rewrite the whole C&P stuff! |
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08:21 | <Mike1> | I’ll crawl to the train now |
08:21 | * | Mike1 is tired |
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08:24 | <microbe> | Hi all :) I'm helping someone with his debian installation... and at this time, we dont get the wireless to work on his install ... Its a fresh install, and we just tried to install some non-free chipset driver ... Did i miss something, like run "apt-get networking-tools" or other needed package ? |
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08:25 | <jm_> | microbe: try http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
08:25 | <newb> | People, I have squeeze chrooted in a lenny system. Both run Apache2 on different ports. I need this to run PHP 5.2 and PHP 5.3 at same server. My problem: I need login at chroot (schroot -c squeeze) and start Apache2 there. If I logout apache stops. I need this chroot system start at boot and run Apache. Already tryed a init.d script, but no success. I always need a logged root user to run... |
08:25 | <newb> | ...Apache. Somebody can help me? |
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08:26 | <microbe> | Thanks jm_ |
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08:27 | <jm_> | microbe: no worries |
08:28 | <babilen> | microbe: Which chipset does it use? (lspci -nn|grep -i network) How do you verify that it is working/not-working? How are you trying to connect? What is the output of "ifconfig -a" and "iwconfig" ? |
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08:29 | <microbe> | babilen: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B we just constat that there is no "wifi manager", we dont see wireless ap |
08:29 | <microbe> | only ethernet is working at this time |
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08:29 | <ayaka> | newb it won't stop when you login out schroot |
08:30 | <microbe> | i now follow jm_' link's instruction |
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08:30 | <ayaka> | microbe you use the same ethercard as mine |
08:30 | <microbe> | ayaka, babilen, how can i know if the driver is installed ? |
08:30 | <newb> | ayaka: but how can I do this works at boot? |
08:31 | <kop> | microbe: You need the pciid babilen asked for. |
08:31 | <kop> | !tell microbe about pciid |
08:31 | <ayaka> | microbe but is not wlan card |
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08:31 | <babilen> | microbe: All drivers are installed by default as they come as kernel modules -- It might just be that you need firmware. (firmware-realtek in this case) |
08:32 | <ayaka> | newb in my memories schroot config support it |
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08:32 | <babilen> | microbe: And as kop mentioned already: The pciid of that card would come in handy (it is the alphanumerical identifier at the end) |
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08:32 | <microbe> | babilen is this avaible in debian deb ? |
08:32 | <microbe> | apt-get firmware-realtek ? |
08:33 | <jm_> | if configured properly then yes |
08:33 | <babilen> | microbe: And the line you pasted is for your NIC not for the wireless adaptor -- Could you paste the complete output of "lspci -nn" to http://paste.debian.net please? (or "lsusb" if it is an USB adaptor) |
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08:34 | <microbe> | Ok wait :) |
08:34 | <ayaka> | babilen maybe linux don't find it |
08:34 | <babilen> | sure :) |
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08:35 | <ayaka> | so nic which produced by taiwan is not in the list and also.wireless card |
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08:35 | <ayaka> | i mean some |
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08:39 | <microbe> | sorry for the delay, here is the lspci -nn output: http://paste.debian.net/156648/ |
08:40 | <babilen> | ,pciid 8086:08ae |
08:40 | <judd> | [8086:08ae] is 'Centrino Wireless-N 100' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'ata_generic' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:08ae |
08:40 | <jm_> | haha |
08:40 | <jm_> | i remember falling for the same trap |
08:40 | <babilen> | microbe: You need to upgrade your kernel (see the kmuto link) |
08:40 | <babilen> | !tell microbe -about bdo kernel |
08:41 | <microbe> | m'kay, and what about a gui wireless manager ? do you think i need to do something special ? |
08:41 | <babilen> | microbe: The wireless adaptor is supported by the iwlagn module and you also need to install firmware-iwlwifi |
08:41 | <babilen> | ,versions firmware-iwlwifi |
08:41 | <judd> | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 0.35; wheezy/non-free: 0.35 |
08:41 | <babilen> | microbe: Install that package from backports as well (apt-get -t squeeze-backports install firmware-iwlwifi) |
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08:42 | <babilen> | microbe: There are two GUI network managers in Debian and it is up to you what you want to use. Some like network-manager others wicd -- See http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse for an overview. |
08:43 | <ayaka> | i remember onething,without fiteware of my realtak nic work well,but when sys update it will output error when upgrage kernel |
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08:44 | <babilen> | ayaka: Those messages are sometimes generated in error (as firmware is not needed, or only needed for certain features of your NIC) |
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08:44 | <ayaka> | so stranger,i don't need it,but for silent ,i install it |
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08:45 | <ayaka> | but i really wish to see that again,i have been stricking in android,becas |
08:45 | <ayaka> | because i can 't find a linux to install debian |
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08:47 | <microbe> | i addes "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" to my sources.list, now i only need to run "apt-get update" and upgrade ? |
08:47 | <a2z> | Hello everyone, has anyone found a workaround of the latest google-earth failure to start on debian? |
08:47 | <ayaka> | i can only use debootstrap to install it,but it need a pc and failed trying in andfoid |
08:47 | <microbe> | added* |
08:47 | <ayaka> | a2z do you install qt? |
08:47 | <Iridos> | microbe, update: yes; upgrade: no, packages never upgrade from backports, you just select single packages that YOU want |
08:48 | <babilen> | microbe: You want that to be "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free" and yes, you just run "apt-get update" |
08:48 | <a2z> | ayaka, The previous version was working so I doubt it is a qt problem. |
08:49 | <a2z> | ayaka, when I revert to the previous version, it works. The latest version fails to launch. |
08:49 | <ayaka> | a2z could you run it in a terminal and paste output |
08:50 | <microbe> | babilen ok, then, i need to search a specific package ? or it will be good ? |
08:50 | <a2z> | ayaka, A Minute |
08:50 | <microbe> | sorry for my nobbtitude :) |
08:50 | <microbe> | noob* erf i'm tired ^o^ |
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08:51 | <babilen> | microbe: No need to apologise, really. You want to install two packages from backports. The first is the new kernel and you could install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` (should be something like linux-image-amd64) and the other is firmware-iwlwifi |
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08:52 | <babilen> | microbe: To tell apt-get or aptitude that you want to install these packages from backports rather than your default release (squeeze) you have to pass it the "-t squeeze-backports" option |
08:52 | <microbe> | babilen ok, i'm gonna try |
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08:52 | <babilen> | microbe: I would recommend to read the sample chapter on http://debian-handbook.info/liberation/ and the Debian reference (/msg dpkg reference) |
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08:57 | <a2z> | ayaka, http://pastebin.com/ynr1Trww |
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08:57 | <babilen> | microbe: Let us know if you run into problem and have fun! |
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08:57 | <a2z> | ayaka, Thats the crash log http://pastebin.com/ynr1Trww |
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08:59 | <Iridos> | nobbliess obligay :P |
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09:02 | <ayaka> | a2z wait a moment pastebin is very slow in china |
09:02 | <a2z> | ayaka, Ok |
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09:04 | <microbe> | babilen in one or two minute, i will know if it worked ! Do you think a reboot is required ? |
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09:05 | <babilen> | microbe: A reboot into the new kernel is required |
09:05 | <microbe> | ok, so juste "reboot" in a shell ? |
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09:06 | <babilen> | microbe: For example (or "shutdown -r now" or "init 6" or ..) |
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09:07 | <microbe> | i see :D |
09:08 | <ayaka> | a2z i'm very sorry i don't know maybe you can del config of it then try |
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09:10 | <a2z> | ayaka, Its Ok. Thanks. I already filed the issue with google code |
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09:14 | <microbe> | babilen, after reboot, still no wireless possibilities. i asked my friend to do a "ifconfig -a", there is 3 interface: "eth0, lo, pan0" |
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09:15 | <microbe> | in fact, babilen, during installation, she did not choose a "miroiring install" |
09:15 | <microbe> | so her sources.list was empty |
09:16 | <babilen> | microbe: So make sure the sources.list is in order -- Did the kernel and firmware installation work? Which kernel are you running right now? (uname -r) |
09:16 | <microbe> | i gave her my sources/list, but there is some warning, missing files or something like that ... we're not from the same country |
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09:17 | <Deltatash> | Is anyone able to help me I have a problem I can not solve I have tried a few things and checked on the forumns nothing seems to work. When I start my Virtual machine in Virtualbox I get this error message "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)" "Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root." I have "virtualbox-ose-dlms" installed I run "sudo modprobe vboxdrv" and I get !FATAL: Mo |
09:17 | <Deltatash> | dule vboxdrv not found" anyone experienced this and know how to solve it? |
09:18 | <microbe> | apparently kernel and firmware worked, but i dont have the shell output, i ask for her because she did not speek english, and i explain to her on another irc server ... im waiting for his uname -r |
09:18 | <microbe> | babilen uname -r: 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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09:19 | <Deltatash> | anybody know how i fix "FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found" ? |
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09:20 | <TheCrittaC> | Deltatash, did you install Virtualbox using the package from their website of from the repositories? |
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09:21 | <Deltatash> | i used the Debian Software Center |
09:21 | <babilen> | microbe: Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy" "aptitude search '~i~n^linux-image'" and your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.debian.net please? (or rather the one from the box we are talking about) |
09:21 | <Deltatash> | but I have used backports to install kernel 3.2 So I was wondering if thats whats causing my problem? |
09:21 | <microbe> | yes :) |
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09:22 | <ballison-work> | does anyone know offhand the file to make find NOT follow down symbolic links? |
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09:23 | <TheCrittaC> | Deltatash, try running depmod as root. |
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09:23 | <Deltatash> | ok |
09:24 | <Deltatash> | TheCrittaC, depmod doesnt seem to do anything in terminal |
09:24 | <Deltatash> | no output just starts a new line, no error message or anything |
09:26 | <Deltatash> | i tried it in su also with "sudo" as i have enabled sudo for my account both do the same |
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09:28 | <TheCrittaC> | Usually, uninstalling and reinstalling all virtualbox packages forces the kernel module to be rebuilt, but there's another way to do it. |
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09:28 | <Deltatash> | ahh which is easiest way to do? |
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09:29 | <TheCrittaC> | Can you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup as root? |
09:29 | <Deltatash> | ok |
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09:30 | <anbe> | Deltatash, do you have the kernel headers for your running kernel installed? |
09:30 | <Deltatash> | hmm sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found |
09:30 | <Deltatash> | I did... but it failed when it came to installing vboxdrv so i removed them again |
09:31 | <Deltatash> | I will go and get the error message and reinstall them if you like |
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09:31 | <babilen> | microbe: I'll be back in a few minutes -- I'll ping you :) |
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09:31 | <microbe> | babilen here is a pastebin containing all commands you asked for: http://pastebin.com/ATAL3wRm |
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09:31 | <anbe> | Deltatash, without headers the module can't be built ... |
09:31 | <microbe> | Ok, i'm waiting, thanks again :) |
09:32 | <Deltatash> | I will install them again |
09:32 | <Deltatash> | 1 moment |
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09:33 | <Deltatash> | hmm I cant copy and paste from the terminal output inside synaptics packet manager to show the error message :s |
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09:33 | <Deltatash> | one moment ill install again but through terminal |
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09:35 | <babilen> | microbe: ping |
09:36 | <Deltatash> | guys I will pastebin the terminal output to you, you can see it has failed with something to do with a kernel and virtualbox i am not so sure |
09:36 | <microbe> | :) |
09:36 | <Deltatash> | here you go http://pastebin.com/CZH0m0sc |
09:37 | <microbe> | you can see, that in his sources.list, there is a problem ... I gave her my sources.list wich is smaller, but i dont know what she did |
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09:39 | <microbe> | do you think the coulple "blond-woman / debian" can work at the first run ? xD okay too much joke ! |
09:39 | <babilen> | microbe: Well, this layered support makes it a bit hard to solve the issue -- Could you ask her to come here or could you log into her box? |
09:39 | <joeoshawa> | there is nobody answering in the debian-next room atm so i was wondering if anyone has gotten a 403 forbidden error when updating aptitude |
09:39 | <Deltatash> | any ideas anbe on what is causing my problem? |
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09:39 | <microbe> | I think i can ask her to have ssh acces to his computer |
09:39 | <babilen> | joeoshawa: Oh, I thought I asked you over there to paste the error, paste your sources.list and try a different mirror. |
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09:40 | <anbe> | virtualbox from squeeze not compatible with kernel 3.2 (eventually because of the -rt patchset?) |
09:40 | <anbe> | ,versions virtualbox |
09:40 | <judd> | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+1; sid: 4.1.8-dfsg-1; wheezy: 4.1.8-dfsg-1 |
09:40 | <babilen> | joeoshawa: Must have intended to do that, but forgot about to actually write those thoughts down |
09:40 | <joeoshawa> | no sorry it's not there |
09:40 | <joeoshawa> | cool |
09:40 | <Deltatash> | hmm so there is nothing I can do to make virtualbox work if I am using 3.2? :( |
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09:40 | <microbe> | I think that's what i'm gonna do, and if i dont get it, i will send her to #debian-fr, and advise her to make a proper install, and to choose a miror during the installation |
09:40 | <anbe> | Deltatash, try virtualbox from squeeze-backports |
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09:40 | <Deltatash> | ok |
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09:41 | <devil> | Deltatash: vbox works fine here with 3.2, but that is in sid |
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09:41 | <babilen> | microbe: If I can be of any assistance let me know -- But ask her to run the commands I gave you earlier and paste the results. We might still be able to figure it out. |
09:42 | <Deltatash> | hmm ok I guess you have newer version of virtualbox in sid then ? |
09:42 | <anbe> | Deltatash, if that doesn't work, try linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 + linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (without -rt) |
09:42 | <Deltatash> | ok |
09:42 | <microbe> | babilen did you see; http://pastebin.com/ATAL3wRm ? |
09:42 | <anbe> | s/headers/image/ |
09:42 | <Deltatash> | anbe to get virtualbox from backports I use this source right ? deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
09:42 | <babilen> | microbe: No, I did not |
09:42 | <microbe> | ok :) |
09:42 | <koollman> | is there an 'easy' way to propose packages to be added in backports ? (more specifically, currently 3.x backported kernel will make stable lxc fail, incompatible calls) |
09:42 | <Deltatash> | and then just apt-get install virtualbox? or is it virtualbox-ose? |
09:43 | <babilen> | microbe: Wow, that sources.list is a mess. One second, I'll come up with a more reasonable one. |
09:43 | <microbe> | thanks !!!! |
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09:44 | <anbe> | Deltatash, has been renamed to virtualbox, since you alredy use a kernel from backports your setup should have the virtualbox already installable without further sources.list updates |
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09:45 | <Deltatash> | ok then I thought so since i already added backports to my sources.list was just making sure it was right one for virtualbox to :P im still getting used to debian sorry :P |
09:45 | <Deltatash> | installing virtual box with apt-get install virtualbox now :) hopefully thats installing from backports |
09:46 | <Deltatash> | i get this message "Starting VirtualBox kernel modulesNo suitable module for running kernel found ... failed! |
09:46 | <Deltatash> | failed!" |
09:47 | <themill> | you'll also need to make sure you install the kernel headers package for the kernel you are running |
09:47 | <babilen> | microbe: Please ask her to use http://paste.debian.net/156656/ (and only that) -- Then run "apt-get update" followed by "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 firmware-iwlwifi". Please paste the output of *all* of these commands along with that of "apt-cache policy ; aptitude versions '~i~n^linux-image'" |
09:47 | <anbe> | koollman, 1) report a bug against the kernel, so that an appropriate Breaks: lxc (<< ...) can be added; 2.) write to debian-backports@l.d.o and ask for an lxc backport |
09:47 | <Deltatash> | sucess even though it isntalled showign an error message my virtual box will start now :D |
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09:48 | <Deltatash> | ok, thanks themill I will remember that :) I think they are running now because virtualbox seems to be working :) |
09:48 | <koollman> | anbe: well, it's only the backport that fails. lxc & kernel on stable or on testing are both fine. just ... unable to be mixed. but I will, thanks |
09:48 | <Deltatash> | and thanks a lot for your support anbe :D installing virtualbox from backports seems to have done the trick :D thank yoooou! :D |
09:49 | <microbe> | babilen okay, i will ask her, but she's there |
09:49 | <microbe> | Zeta ! |
09:49 | <Zeta> | microbe ! |
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09:50 | <babilen> | Zeta: Welcome, do you understand English well enough to follow our discussion? |
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09:52 | <Zeta> | babilen a little bit -_- |
09:52 | <Zeta> | i'm so bad in english |
09:52 | <subhojit> | howdy |
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09:52 | <microbe> | knowlege come with pratice Zeta :D |
09:53 | <subhojit> | adema, hello |
09:53 | <babilen> | Zeta: Ok, lets try. Please replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.debian.net/156656/ and run "apt-get update". Paste the output to http://paste.debian.net please. (I want to see if that worked OK) |
09:54 | <Zeta> | yes |
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09:56 | <koollman> | microbe, Zeta: if language is a barrier, do you know there's #debian-fr as well ? |
09:56 | <microbe> | babilen she is experiments with nano, so i'm patient ^^ |
09:57 | <microbe> | koollman yes i know, but people are more amicals there |
09:57 | <babilen> | microbe, Zeta: Take your time. No need to hurry and I am a very patient person. |
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10:04 | <MTecknology> | I'm trying to make a preseed file but getting stuck on the partitioning piece. I think I have everything else figured out. Any chance I could convince someone to take a peak at what I have? http://dpaste.com/704419/ |
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10:25 | <Zeta> | babilen dis lui; here is the result for the commands you asked, i have replaced my sources.list like you asked me, and run an update http://paste.debian.net/156661/ |
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10:25 | <microbe> | x) Zeta :* |
10:26 | <Zeta> | oui je sais je sais |
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10:29 | <babilen> | Zeta: Looks wonderful -- Please reboot into the new kernel (with "reboot" as root) |
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10:29 | <Zeta> | thanks for you help |
10:29 | <Zeta> | your* |
10:30 | <babilen> | Zeta: You are welcome! Have a nice day! :) |
10:30 | <Zeta> | yes ! :D |
10:30 | <babilen> | Zeta: (or come back if you need help with something else) |
10:30 | <Zeta> | no problems thanks |
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10:33 | <Zeta> | babilen so wonderful i have my wifi |
10:33 | <babilen> | Zeta: Hooray! Enjoy :) |
10:33 | <microbe> | babilen :) you roxx ! |
10:34 | * | babilen tips his hat |
10:34 | <microbe> | héhé x) like a dude |
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10:36 | <Zeta> | now i can mount my serveur :D |
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10:39 | <Deltatash> | I have virtualbox installed and working from backports for Debian Squeze 6.0.4 but when I try to install guest additions for windows I get "Failed to download the VirtualBox Guest Additions CD image from http://dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net/virtualbox/4.0.10_Debian/VBoxGuestAdditions_4.0.10_Debian.iso. |
10:39 | <Deltatash> | Could not locate the file on the server (response: 404)" any idea where i can download guest additions from fro Debian virtualbox? |
10:40 | <TheCrittaC> | It's in the repositories: virtualbox-guest-additions |
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10:40 | <Deltatash> | ok so it does not matter that i installed virtualbox from backports? I can install from the normal repository? |
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10:41 | <themill> | ,i virtualbox-guest-additions --release squeeze-backports |
10:41 | <judd> | No package named 'virtualbox-guest-additions' was found in squeeze-backports/i386. |
10:41 | <Deltatash> | I am on amd64 does that matter? |
10:41 | <TheCrittaC> | Maybe I only have it because I'm running sid. |
10:42 | * | themill thought they were in squeeze-backports too, but obviously not |
10:42 | <Deltatash> | hmm |
10:43 | <TheCrittaC> | It's in the non-free repo. |
10:43 | <Deltatash> | guys |
10:43 | <Deltatash> | if i go to synaptics packet manage |
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10:44 | <Deltatash> | and find "virtualbox-guest-additions" i select to install it..then it wants to remove a bunch of stuff liek "virtualbox-dkms" and "virtualbox" itself... |
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10:44 | <Deltatash> | what the hell? it would be kinda useless to download virtualbox uest additions if downloading it requires uninstalling virtualbox... |
10:44 | <Deltatash> | any idea what is wwrong? |
10:44 | <TheCrittaC> | Does it want to install anything else, such as the virtualbox-ose package? |
10:45 | <Deltatash> | yes it will install virtualbox-ose but that does nto work with my kernel 3.2 I had to install just "virtualbox" not -ose from backports becuase i used backports to use kernel 3.2 |
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10:46 | <Deltatash> | is there not a "virtualbox-guest-additions" in the back ports source? |
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10:53 | <martarubio21> | irse toss a mmmmmmmmmmmm jejejeje alk parke a jugar jajaajajaaj xDD |
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10:53 | <babilen> | !es-social martarubio21 |
10:53 | <dpkg> | martarubio21: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
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10:54 | <Deltatash> | so is there no way to get guest additions in virtualbox backports for Debian 6.0.4 ? |
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10:56 | <themill> | Deltatash: guest additions for what guest OS? |
10:56 | <mlaks> | hi. i am having sound troubles lately on amd64 sid machine. no sound. speaker-test heard no sound. now i re-installed als-utils and reran and now i hear the beautiful static of which means that i have sound. but still rhythmbox is silent as is sound in iceweasel |
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10:56 | * | zykotick9 notices that virtualbox-guest-x11 is in squeeze-backports |
10:56 | <Deltatash> | themill, for windows 7 |
10:57 | <mlaks> | when i run a script for i in /dev/snd/*; do echo $i; sudo lsof $i; done |
10:57 | <Deltatash> | zykotick9, virtualbox-guest-x11 is the same as virtualbox-guest-additions ? |
10:57 | <mlaks> | i see pulseaudio is runnig |
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10:57 | <Deltatash> | so i dont have to keep on clicking inside the windows screen then right Ctrl to release mouse etc? |
10:58 | <zykotick9> | Deltatash: not really, i think that's just the X11 element - but not sure. |
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10:58 | <Deltatash> | hmm |
10:58 | <Deltatash> | damn |
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10:58 | <babilen> | mlaks: Try something along the lines of http://paste.debian.net/156673/ in /etc/asound.conf and check your mixer levels in both alsamixer and pavucontrol -- Can you see rhythmbox in pavucontrol while it is playing? |
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10:58 | <Deltatash> | i am new to debian lol half a week and almsot got it just perfect |
10:58 | <Deltatash> | last thing is the damn virtualbox but its being awkard >.< |
10:59 | <Deltatash> | dunno why it cant be the sameguest additions .iso for all... what is so different |
10:59 | <babilen> | just s/virtualbox/kvm+virt-manager/ ;) |
10:59 | <Deltatash> | what will that do? |
10:59 | <themill> | Deltatash: the guess additions can often be used across different vbox versions. The virtualbox-guest-additions-iso package from sid is probably suitable. You can download it from packages.debian.org and then install it with dpkg -i |
10:59 | <babilen> | Deltatash: I wasn't entirely serious. It just happens that I like KVM and am not proficient in virtualbox. |
10:59 | <Deltatash> | thanks I will try that one themill :) |
10:59 | <Deltatash> | oh ok lol |
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11:00 | <Deltatash> | themill, so you think i should download the one from here http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=virtualbox-guest-additions-iso ? in "sid (unstable)" or will "Wheezy (testing)" be better |
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11:02 | <themill> | Deltatash: it's the same package |
11:02 | <Deltatash> | ok, thanks I will try now :D |
11:02 | <Deltatash> | hmm there is no download link on there :s |
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11:04 | <mlaks> | ok i copied that infomration which i had in .asoundrc to /etc/asound.conf and ineed pavucontrol shows 100% and shows rhthymbox and alsaplugin container |
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11:04 | <sai> | css |
11:04 | <sai> | helooo |
11:04 | <mlaks> | mixer levels are fine in amixer |
11:04 | <sai> | anyone here? |
11:04 | <pirate-xy> | YES |
11:04 | <pirate-xy> | I'm pirate xy |
11:04 | <sai> | what do you talk here? |
11:04 | <Deltatash> | sorry for such a noobish question but how do i download the guest additions from this link http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=virtualbox-guest-additions-iso I cant seem to find a download button for the .iso :s |
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11:05 | <babilen> | mlaks: You don't need both /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc -- What do *you* have in there? And "speaker-test -t wav" is working? |
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11:05 | <themill> | Deltatash: click on the release (sid) then click on the architecture (all) → http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/virtualbox-guest-additions-iso/download |
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11:05 | <babilen> | sai: This is a technical support channel for Debian users. |
11:06 | <sai> | ohkay |
11:06 | <Deltatash> | ahh I see |
11:06 | <Deltatash> | thanks themill (feels silly) lol |
11:06 | <pirate-xy> | hello? |
11:06 | <themill> | Deltatash: no worries... it's obvious when you know what you're trying to do :) |
11:06 | <Deltatash> | ;) |
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11:07 | <cusco> | hello |
11:07 | <Deltatash> | :) |
11:07 | <babilen> | pirate-xy: Do you have a Debian related question? Please note that this is *not* a social chat channel. If you are looking for one try #moocows or a different network. |
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11:08 | <Deltatash> | so i will cd into the directory of the guest additions.deb then type in terminal "dpkg -i" to install? |
11:08 | <babilen> | mlaks: I also found that I had to "alsactl init", but that shouldn't be necessary if speaker-test is working. |
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11:09 | <mlaks> | i have the exame same data as in your pastebin in both locations |
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11:10 | <babilen> | Ok, you really don't need both -- I just happened to have them in /etc/asound.conf (that is if you run PA as user (which is the default)) |
11:10 | <babilen> | mlaks: What about speaker-test? |
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11:11 | <babilen> | mlaks: Oh, and I like to point out that we have a specific channel for wheezy/sid support (#debian-next) |
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11:13 | <mlaks> | speaker-test is not working. it was working till i killed the pulseaudio processes (i was hoping they would restart but they did not :() |
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11:14 | <mlaks> | the command _etc_init.d_pulseaudio stop or start do not work |
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11:15 | <mlaks> | seems you cant type forward slash in irc :( |
11:16 | <retro|blah> | What client are you using? |
11:16 | <Deltatash> | themill, I have installed virtualbox guest additions now :) it is just restarting to see if it has worked :D |
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11:16 | <mlaks> | now i got no speaker-test (briefly that was working. i am using sirc i got message about unknown command whatever-i-typed-with-forward-slash |
11:17 | <Deltatash> | and it works :D thanks a lot for the support guys :D |
11:17 | <Deltatash> | I have been in here a lot this week xD but now my Debian system seems to be up and running just how I like it :D |
11:17 | <Deltatash> | thanks for helping out a Debian noob :) |
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11:18 | <retro|blah> | mlaks: Try /say /(whatever) |
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11:18 | <retro|blah> | mlaks: The issue is with forward slashes at the beginning that's all |
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11:18 | <TheCrittaC> | mlaks, if you use the /say command, you can begin with a forward slash. |
11:19 | <Wombatica> | I have 4 GB of physical memory, bit I only see 2.8GB in linux. I'm using a 64 bit kernel. |
11:19 | <Wombatica> | I some posts online that indicated I needed to enable PAE, but I thought that was only for 32 bit. |
11:19 | <mlaks> | /etc/init.d/pulseaudio |
11:19 | <TheCrittaC> | Wombatica, what does the 'free -m' command indicate? |
11:20 | <mlaks> | cool that worked |
11:20 | <Wombatica> | 2875 |
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11:20 | <mlaks> | ok i did for i in /dev/snd/*; do echo $i; sudo lsof $i; done |
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11:21 | <mlaks> | then i found some processes and killed them and now i have even less 'no sound' then before :( |
11:21 | <mlaks> | how to restart the pulseaudo stuff |
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11:22 | <mlaks> | pavucontrol seems to think thytjmbox is working :( |
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11:23 | <babilen> | mlaks: You don't restart PA via its init script as it runs per-user .. either relogin or run "pulseaudio -D" (check if that is all you need, I'm not sure right now) |
11:23 | <TheCrittaC> | Wombatica, are you using a video card with shared memory? |
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11:24 | <mlaks> | daemon startup failed |
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11:25 | <Wombatica> | I think my video card has it's own onboard memory |
11:25 | <mlaks> | [puleaudio] main.c Daemon startup failed when i did pulseaudio -D from user mlaks (groups include audio video plugdev) |
11:26 | <mlaks> | i will logout and rejoin our group shortly. see you all agin ina few minutes |
11:26 | <Wombatica> | it's a GeForce 6200 |
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11:38 | <Wombatica> | http://paste.debian.net/156678/ |
11:39 | <Wombatica> | It seems that my agp aperature is wonky |
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11:42 | <Deltatash> | just like acpi will check my battery level what was the command to check my temperature? |
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11:43 | <Deltatash> | i cant seem to find a document online listing all the different commands for the sensors |
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11:44 | <Deltatash> | anything? |
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11:45 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: The command most offten used is the sensors command, part of the lm-sensors package. |
11:45 | <mlaks> | hi i completely rebooted (sigh) and still no speaker-test output 0 Front Left |
11:45 | <jhutchins_wk> | Deltatash: It's more common for user to use one of the GUI monitoring packages. |
11:46 | <jhutchins_wk> | Wombatica: Are you sure you have the 64b kernel loaded? uname -a? |
11:47 | <Deltatash> | hmm what is the command line command to see temperature? |
11:47 | <Wombatica> | Linux bminton.is-a-geek.net 3.1.6 #1 SMP Sat Jan 7 12:05:54 EST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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11:47 | <Deltatash> | with lm-sensors? |
11:48 | <mlaks> | so in the old days i would do install the alsa modules package and compile them and then do aslactl etc. what is with this pulse audio? |
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11:53 | <Alam_Squeeze> | mlaks: is the user in the group audio/console-kit added an ACL for that user? |
11:53 | <Alam_Squeeze> | mlaks: also, try pulseaudio -vvvvv |
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11:54 | <Deltatash> | is there any reason why Debian 6.0.4 squeze does not like Hotmail if I use Chromium browser installed from the software centre? |
11:55 | <Alam_Squeeze> | "does not like"? like in what? render the hotmail login page? mailbox? |
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12:03 | <Deltatash> | it just didnt seem to let me click anything |
12:03 | <Deltatash> | like "inbox" or "hotmail" or messenger" nothing worked |
12:03 | <Deltatash> | but it eventually seemed to kick in after like 10 mins lol...so i dunno maybe it was flash or something lagging out took a while to start? |
12:03 | <Deltatash> | sorry for the slow reply |
12:04 | <MTecknology> | preseed files seem to be nice and well documented until it comes to partitioning.... :( |
12:04 | <max> | hi, does anyone here speak russian? |
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12:06 | <max> | I need help with Debian, after upgraded to GNOME3 gnome-session does not work and... a I have a big problem with english :D |
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12:07 | <slam> | max: #debian-ru |
12:07 | <max> | slam: thanks! |
12:08 | <babilen> | max: You English seems to be fine, but there is a Russian channel (#debian-russian) here (?) and on irc.freenode.net |
12:08 | <babilen> | *Your *sigh* |
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12:34 | <lost> | hi |
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12:45 | <perojok> | hi, i have not enough free space on /, can i somehow enlarge it by mounting piece from another drive? |
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12:48 | <Deltatash> | where can I install python 2.6.6.7~ ? |
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12:49 | <Deltatash> | I try to install emesene and I get this problem http://pastebin.com/nsnpV9sR |
12:50 | <heikkila> | perojok, with a logical volume manager you could add drives, not sure if you can install and use it now. If you have everything on that original drive you could copy files from /home or something and then mount the new drive as /home |
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12:50 | <Deltatash> | the default emesene in the Debian 6.0 software center does not work it is outdated and broken. I try to install the latest version it worked the first time I ran and installed it...then next time it coplained in my synaptic packet manager and said it was broken and removed it then update manager installed a python update and since then emesene will not re install from my .deb i downloaded from the emesene site it is a deb |
12:50 | <Deltatash> | ian one |
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12:51 | <heikkila> | perojok, with "add drives" I mean add drives to existing mounts, seamlessly |
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12:53 | <Deltatash> | any ideas ? |
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12:53 | <Deltatash> | I dont know why synaptics broke my emesene... :( |
12:53 | <perojok> | <heikkila>, i mean to do more free space on / |
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12:55 | <panko1> | Deltatash: you can try, in synaptic, search for python package that was upgraded and choose install other version (menus in synaptic, search for option package) and then block updates for that package until emesene are updated on repos. |
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12:56 | <heikkila> | perojok, well I don't know about your partition layout |
12:56 | <panko1> | but, possible (maybe sure), blocking that python update, left some packages hold on your system too |
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12:57 | <Deltatash> | thats my problem i only have version 2.6.6 in my synaptics packet manager I need version 2.6.7 how do I install that over my 2.6.6 if I can not find it in my packet manager |
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12:58 | <Deltatash> | I wouldnt mind if the emesene in the default software centre worked..but it doesnt it is too outdated i need the updated emesne from their website :( |
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12:59 | <perojok> | i have raiserfs |
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12:59 | <unkeser> | Hi. |
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13:00 | <unkeser> | I would like to take output from a program like recordmydesktop, and create a 'virtual cam |
13:00 | <unkeser> | or more of a pipe so that I can use this in programs like cheese, or even flash... |
13:01 | <unkeser> | There is no vloopback... Unless i'm wrong. |
13:01 | <Deltatash> | panko1, synaptics packet manager says my python is up to date...but in my repository I do not have the newer one, I think I may need to use something like he backports like i did for my kernel |
13:02 | <Deltatash> | I just need to fin dout where I can install the newer python from |
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13:03 | <Deltatash> | I dont know why debian hasnt updated the software list for emesene because the current one does not connect to msn servers.... |
13:03 | <unkeser> | Unkeser wants to allow students to broadcast their screen... Low bandwidth situation, we want to use this... |
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13:03 | <Deltatash> | and they make it impossible to install a new version from elsewhere :/ |
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13:04 | <Deltatash> | what is the command needed to install python version 2.6.6-7 ? |
13:04 | <panko1> | Deltatash: I don't refer to newer python. If your new emesene doesn't work, install an older version of python-package (if it does not break your sistem, of course), and then block/hold package on that verision. |
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13:06 | <panko1> | if it's available on repos, aptitude install python=VERSION (not sure is =, take a look at man or help), or in synaptics, search in menus for option package, it tells you versions available and let's you install what you want. |
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13:06 | <Deltatash> | panko1, I have an older version of python installed but that version does not work with the new emsesene I need to upgrade to the next version of python or emesene will not install the current version of emesene in debian 6.0 repository does not work it is outdated and has not had the update fix to connect to the msn servers |
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13:07 | <Deltatash> | i get this Reading state information... Done |
13:07 | <Deltatash> | E: Unable to locate package python2.6.6-7 |
13:07 | <Deltatash> | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'python2.6.6-7' |
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13:07 | <Deltatash> | it is not in my current repository I need to find out where I can add this source to my repository like debian backports i used for kernel 3.2 |
13:08 | <valdyn> | judd: versions python2.6 |
13:08 | <judd> | Package: python2.6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.6-8+b1; sid: 2.6.7-4; wheezy: 2.6.7-4 |
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13:08 | <Deltatash> | E: Unable to locate package python2.6.7-4 |
13:08 | <Deltatash> | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'python2.6.7-4 |
13:08 | <Deltatash> | :( |
13:09 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: you are searching for package names, theres no such package |
13:09 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: the package name is python2.6 |
13:09 | <Deltatash> | then why does emesene tell me thats what I need to install? |
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13:09 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: its giving you a python release it needs, not a package name |
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13:10 | <Deltatash> | how do i find the package name that includes the python release i need? |
13:10 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: you read what i told you, the name is python2.6 |
13:11 | <Deltatash> | which is the wrong one it says "python2.6 is already the newest version." it stays on 2.6.6 I need 2.6.7 :/ |
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13:11 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: judd told you above which debian repositores have which version of python2.6 |
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13:13 | <Deltatash> | but how do I use the wheezy repository to add the version I want ? |
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13:13 | <valdyn> | judd: versions emesene |
13:13 | <judd> | Package: emesene on i386 -- lenny: 1.0-dist-4; squeeze: 1.6.3-1; sid: 2.12.1+dfsg-1; wheezy: 2.12.1+dfsg-1 |
13:13 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: why are you not using the squeeze emesene in the first place? |
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13:14 | <Deltatash> | because the squeeze emesene is obsolete..it is too outdated it does not connect to MSN server |
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13:14 | <Deltatash> | the same thing happened on ubuntu and everyone using "emesene" ona ll distros had to wait for emesene to bring an update to fix it |
13:14 | <valdyn> | !backport |
13:14 | <dpkg> | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
13:14 | <Deltatash> | and debian seems to have the version before this update |
13:14 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: ^^ |
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13:15 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: where is that newer emesene package from? |
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13:15 | <Deltatash> | their website they have a debian isntaller http://blog.emesene.org/p/downloads.html |
13:16 | <Deltatash> | but it needs newer python to work |
13:16 | <Deltatash> | so I just add "http://backports.debian.org/" to my sources list ? |
13:16 | <valdyn> | Deltatash: thats not really "their website" that has this, its a link to the debian/sid package |
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13:17 | <gnugr> | Deltatash: you also must learn about what pinning in apt-preferences can provide |
13:17 | <kop> | Deltatash: You may wish to see footnote 1 of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware for an overview of what can go wrong when you leave the safe world of debian stable. |
13:17 | <unkeser> | Does anyone know if it is possible to convert the output of recordmydesktop to /dev/video1 ? |
13:17 | <Deltatash> | I already have this "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" in my sources list i thoguht this would enable me to get the latest python |
13:18 | <kop> | Deltatash: There's a python 3 in stable already. You need newer? |
13:18 | <Deltatash> | I am on squeeze stable and it only has 2.6.6 in my repository i need 2.6.7 or later |
13:18 | <Deltatash> | but can not seem to find where or how i install it |
13:18 | <mlaks> | i pasted the output of pulseaudio -vvvv http://pastebin.com/ZikF7AaC |
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13:19 | <kop> | ,versions python |
13:19 | <judd> | Package: python on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.2-3; squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze6; sid: 2.7.2-10; wheezy: 2.7.2-10 |
13:19 | <Deltatash> | i have been given that already but I dont know how to use that |
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13:20 | <mlaks> | how to check is the user in group audio/console-kit added an ACL ? what does that mean |
13:20 | <kop> | Deltatash: That means that there's no backported python in backports. |
13:20 | <Deltatash> | so I cant get 2.6.7 on squeeze ? |
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13:20 | <Deltatash> | i have to find a different msn client? |
13:20 | <gnugr> | with pinning |
13:20 | <kop> | Deltatash: But, there's the python3 package, which I think installs 3.1 by default. (Of course python 3 is slightly backwards incompatible with python 2.) |
13:20 | <mlaks> | alam squeeze whhat is an acl |
13:21 | <kop> | !tell mlaks about acl |
13:21 | <Deltatash> | hmm so I could install python 3? |
13:21 | <kop> | Deltatash: Sure, even alongside python2. |
13:21 | <Deltatash> | and it would work fine with python 2 i currently have installed? |
13:21 | <kop> | Deltatash: If you want a newer python 2 you'd need to backport it yourself. |
13:21 | <M-T> | Hello folks, may I have some help on "Switching User" from Gnome with gdm3 and gnome-screensaver on Debian Squeeze (newest updates). |
13:21 | <kop> | Deltatash: Yes. |
13:22 | <Deltatash> | hmm |
13:22 | <Deltatash> | I will try python 3 and see if emesene likes it |
13:22 | <kop> | Deltatash: I think it's invoked with 'python3' could be wrong. |
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13:22 | <Deltatash> | I am installing python 3 now, thanks I did not know python 3 was available for me |
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13:22 | <unkeser> | +1 forPython 3 |
13:22 | <kop> | M-T: You need to explain just what it is you want to do. |
13:23 | <unkeser> | Lots of sugar in p3 |
13:23 | <anbe> | Deltatash, just backport emesene from sid to squeeze - /msg dpkg ssb |
13:23 | <Deltatash> | same problem even with python 3 "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of emesene: |
13:23 | <Deltatash> | emesene depends on python (>= 2.6.6-7~); however: |
13:23 | <Deltatash> | Version of python on system is 2.6.6-3+squeeze6." |
13:23 | <kop> | Deltatash: If your real problem is a msn client then you need to ask about that. |
13:23 | <M-T> | I would like to switch from one to another X user session (gnome) and back without running in trouble. |
13:24 | <Deltatash> | anbe, how can I backport emesene from sid to squeeze? |
13:24 | <kop> | M-T: You don't want to logout first? |
13:24 | <M-T> | I have tried several things and several packages but could not find a workarround. I always get a black screen with the cursors in the left upper corner blinking. |
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13:25 | <M-T> | Nope I would like to stay logged in. |
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13:25 | <M-T> | It is I log in and my session is running all the time and sometimes somebody else is using my computer while I'm away ... |
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13:26 | <kop> | M-T: I've no clue. But ask again later if you get no answer. If it were me I might run another gdm3 on another vt, say vt8. Then I would switch between vts. But that does not sound like the right way to do it, at least not if user switching is something gnome supports. |
13:26 | <kop> | !tell M-T about vt |
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13:27 | <anbe> | !tell Deltatash -about ssb |
13:27 | <kop> | M-T: First you want to find out if this is something you can do from within gnome. |
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13:28 | <kop> | M-T: Then mess around with running another gdm3. |
13:28 | <Deltatash> | 1 sec brb |
13:28 | <kop> | M-T: (If you have to.) |
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13:31 | <M-T> | <kop> I tried gdm instead of gdm3 and I was using xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver .... :( .... all led more or less to the same results :( ... |
13:32 | <M-T> | <kop> So you say I should learn my users to login to a console and let them start x from there!? hehe, thats a workarround but not really useable .... |
13:33 | <valdyn> | M-T: what is the gfx driver you're using? |
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13:33 | <M-T> | <kop> Mhhh, I'm really feeling despered a little and willing to go furhter with Debian but I run often into trouble with such trivial things, trivial like this is in my opinion a major function and just does not work ... |
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13:34 | <valdyn> | M-T: trivial to you maybe, but its an aspect where Xorg is fundamentally broken |
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13:34 | <valdyn> | M-T: and thats not just debian |
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13:35 | <M-T> | <valdyn> Trivial like the function not the programming behind ;) ... |
13:35 | <valdyn> | M-T: your specific issue though seems to be a gfx driver bug |
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13:35 | <Deltatash> | back sory |
13:35 | <M-T> | <valdyn> Yes I know .... maybe the driver is also part of the problem using the latest ATI Catalyst driver |
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13:36 | <valdyn> | M-T: ok, go use radeon |
13:36 | <valdyn> | M-T: it might just work well enough |
13:36 | <Deltatash> | anbe, ? this ssb? how do i use it to check for a backport ? |
13:37 | <M-T> | grrrrr :) |
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13:38 | <M-T> | <valdyn> <kop> thanks for talking ... I thought about this attempt but did first wanted to talk to somebody before testing myself into a psy. depression ;) .... try and talk later again with you ... cheers and bb |
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13:39 | <anbe> | Deltatash, follow the instructions the dpkg bot gave you - to repeat them: /msg dpkg ssb |
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13:40 | <Deltatash> | so i type "msg dpkg ssb" into terminal? |
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13:41 | <retrospectacus> | Deltatash: dpkg is an irc bot here. he already told you about ssb in another window |
13:41 | <retrospectacus> | or you can type /msg dpkg ssb and he'll do it again |
13:41 | <retrospectacus> | right into this chat |
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13:47 | <bch> | hello, i cant use my wireless device. The dmesg message: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-6000g2a-5.ucode' failed. |
13:47 | <bch> | does anyone know where to download the firmware? |
13:47 | <retrospectacus> | !iwl |
13:48 | <retrospectacus> | bch: what's your wireless card? |
13:48 | <retrospectacus> | !iwlwifi |
13:48 | <dpkg> | The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports Intel 3945 ABG, 4965 AGN and several Intel 802.11n adapters (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N). Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices are listed at http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi . See also <iwlegacy>. |
13:49 | <bch> | its an intel centrino wireless-n 1000 wlan (I believe). Where can I check that? |
13:49 | <retrospectacus> | bch: there's the directions - enable non-free and install firmware-iwlwifi |
13:49 | <bch> | ah ok thanks. |
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13:51 | <retrospectacus> | you can run ''lspci -nn |grep -i net'' or so to check, but if it's saying that, then that'll be what you want |
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13:56 | <Deltatash> | sorry I really need to log gotta go out and sort some stuff out, I will try my emesene later |
13:57 | <Deltatash> | thanks for the help anyway guys |
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14:07 | <Goer> | Hi all. My first time here. Is this a buzzy xchat channel with good help? |
14:07 | <valdyn> | Goer: no, it's an irc channel |
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14:08 | <Goer> | I hv just switched form Mint to Mepis 11 due to its good stability |
14:08 | <Goer> | valdyn, I do not want tochat, just sgare and get help |
14:08 | <Goer> | share |
14:08 | <retrospectacus> | we can't help with Mepis or Mint, this is #debian |
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14:09 | <Goer> | ah, got it. sorry |
14:09 | <retrospectacus> | np |
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14:10 | <Goer> | anyways, has anyone heard of "burneronfire' app. I just started using it and it is most awesome. But, I cannot get a desktop icon and hv to use F2 run to activate it. |
14:12 | <retrospectacus> | copy/paste an existing desktop icon, then edit that file with a text editor and change the Exec line to burneronfire (you'll want to change other stuff too like the icon and title) |
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14:12 | <retrospectacus> | but that is just a guess because you are not using debian |
14:12 | <retrospectacus> | you should ask in a channel for your OS |
14:13 | <Goer> | retrospectacus: thnx 4 dat. By the way, Mepis is debian, just jazzed up :) |
14:13 | <daemonkeeper> | We have several factoids claiming the contrary. |
14:13 | <retrospectacus> | have fun with that |
14:14 | <Goer> | thnx guys :) |
14:14 | <Goer> | I'll switch to Mepis. cu |
14:14 | <retrospectacus> | by |
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14:27 | <Kenneth2> | Hi, I have some problems with my harddrive, the one where Debian is installed "/" - I want to change harddrive. My machine will boot up, and is working, but there are loads of harddrive errors in the logs. Is it possible to change disk, without installing debian on the new disk? - I want to "clone" the old disk, if i run "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" <-- Will that command clone my disk, and if, will i be able to boot from the new disk (/dev |
14:28 | <kop> | Kenneth2: Is there anything but debian on the disk? |
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14:30 | <kop> | Kenneth2: The dd should work, assuming the old drive is smaller than the new and you don't get errors while copying. Otherwise ddrescue does something similar but allows for errors. But you do want to do the copy while booted off cd or something other than the hd. |
14:30 | <Kenneth2> | Its my fileserver, the disk i want to replace contains 3 partitions "/" "/home/" +swap. The reason for not wanting to install all over is that there are so many config i need to do to be able to get it up and running. |
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14:32 | <Kenneth2> | kop: The new disk is smaller than the old, i want to replace a 250gb with a new ssd |
14:32 | <kop> | Kenneth2: You will also want to run a filesystem check after the copy. And you will have unpartitioned space on the new drive. (LVM is handy for this sort of stuff but if you're not using it already then it's too late.) |
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14:32 | <kop> | Kenneth2: Then use tar instead. |
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14:33 | <kop> | Kenneth2: Or just cp. But you will then need to pay attention to the uuids of the filesystem, as listed in /etc/fstab, because you will have to create the partitions and the filesystems before copying. (I bet there's something in the debian reference manual about backup/restore.) |
14:34 | <kop> | Kenneth2: So, just change the uuids in fstab. |
14:34 | <kop> | Kenneth2: You will also need to re-install grub in order to boot. |
14:34 | <Kenneth2> | what about partition table? |
14:35 | <kop> | Kenneth2: Partition the new disk as you like and make the filesystems before copying. |
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14:36 | <kop> | Kenneth2: Come to think of it most people will use rsync for this (with -x) instead of cp. |
14:37 | <kop> | Kenneth2: You copy a partition at a time. (You have to mount the new partition somwhere.) |
14:37 | <kop> | Kenneth2: The installcd has a rescue mode that is useful for all this. |
14:38 | <Kenneth2> | So, the plan is: 1. Partition disk and make filesystem. 2. copy files using dd og tar. 3. Fix fstab on new disk. 4. run grub-install <-- how can i do that if the system does not boot up? Can i run grub-install when bootet up from my old disk, or livecd? |
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14:38 | <Kenneth2> | *googling rsync* :-) |
14:39 | <kop> | Kenneth2: You can't use dd, you have to mount the new fs, use "tar -C oldmountpoint -cO . | tar -C newmountpoing -xpf -" |
14:39 | <kop> | Kenneth2: rsync works pretty much like cp, only has lots more options. You could just read the man page. |
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14:41 | <Kenneth2> | Thanks for all your help :-) |
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14:41 | <kop> | Kenneth2: You're doing all this from a live cd (or whatever) of some sort. That's safest. If you use the rescue cd it will boot and mount everything and dump you into the mounted filesystem and then you can run grub-install. |
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14:42 | <kop> | Kenneth2: That would be after removing the old drive and changing the fstab on the new. |
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14:43 | <kop> | Kenneth2: oops. You want the left-hand tar to also use --one-file-system. |
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14:46 | <kop> | Kenneth2: The rsync is probably (but better check): rsync -ax sourcemountpoint/ destmountpoint |
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14:47 | <kop> | Kenneth2: Don't forget the trailing / on the source mount point. |
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15:15 | <semko> | hej |
15:15 | <semko> | i want bash to suggest me a package when the command not found, how can i do that? |
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15:17 | <semko> | ,versions vrms |
15:17 | <judd> | Package: vrms on i386 -- lenny: 1.14; squeeze: 1.15; sid: 1.16; wheezy: 1.16 |
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15:18 | <ompaul> | vrms even rms thinks it's a crap package :) |
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15:27 | <Free> | Всем привет) |
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15:28 | <Free> | Hello!!!) |
15:29 | <heikkila> | hi |
15:29 | <musca> | hi Free, we all like your name, Freeman :) |
15:29 | <Free> | Почему?) |
15:30 | <daemonkeeper> | !ru |
15:30 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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15:30 | <Free> | !ru |
15:30 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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15:30 | <Free> | Есть тут кто?) |
15:31 | <daemonkeeper> | There is not more to come ... |
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15:31 | <Free> | Вы на русском не говорите? |
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15:36 | <Iridos> | semk.... |
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15:57 | <VelvetElvis> | Hey, Gnome hung going back to GDM after logging out after some recent package upgrades in sid. Now Gnome shell crashes when use the search function for applications. The weird thing is that it only effects my one main user account. I made a new test user and it works fine. I'm assuming something got corrupted in my home directory but I have no idea what it could be. Any guesses? I'm running sid btw. |
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16:00 | <thief_and_a_liar> | !beer |
16:00 | <dpkg> | well, beer is liquid gold mate |
16:00 | <thief_and_a_liar> | !homework |
16:00 | <dpkg> | homework is probably something you should do yourself. |
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17:42 | <poliakov> | avé qu4kers |
17:43 | <poliakov> | oups miss sorry |
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18:22 | <johnp71> | Hi everyone. |
18:24 | <johnp71> | I'm trying to install a package that is not available on squeeze. It is available in lenny/wheezy/sid and in wheezy/sid backports. Does this mean I can't install it without futzing something up? |
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18:25 | <Misoz> | hi |
18:25 | <johnp71> | hi |
18:26 | <Misoz> | how are you ? |
18:26 | <Misoz> | $johnp |
18:26 | <johnp71> | As background, FWIW I read the backports instructions but I'm missing some fundamental understanding. |
18:26 | <johnp71> | Doing well thanks. How are you? |
18:26 | <Misoz> | fine thkns |
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18:27 | <Misoz> | admin can you help me i have problem |
18:27 | <babilen> | johnp71: You could backport it from sid (probably). Which package is it? |
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18:28 | <johnp71> | barry (and some dependencies). I'm trying to lose Windows completely, and this will let me back up my Blackberry. |
18:28 | <babilen> | ,checkbackport barry |
18:29 | <judd> | Backporting package barry in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze. |
18:29 | <babilen> | johnp71: Shouldn't be a problem. Just follow the instructions in "/msg dpkg ssb" |
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18:30 | <johnp71> | *in awe at IRC, which is new to me* Thank you! Will read. |
18:31 | * | themill pats judd on the head; good bot |
18:31 | <babilen> | johnp71: You are most welcome. Ping/Ask if you run into problems. |
18:32 | * | babilen pats themill on the back. Good developer |
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18:32 | <themill> | heh |
18:33 | <johnp71> | (aside) I've gotten quite a bit of slack moving from colleagues/family for moving from Windows --> GNU/Linux, from proprietary to open source, and from GUI toward CLI. But the more I learn the more I love it. Really blown away. Sorry for gushing about it. |
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19:24 | <wma> | good night |
19:24 | <wma> | everybuddy |
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19:33 | <spiderone> | I forgot who helped me last time, but i am having trouble with the installation of iceweasel beta |
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19:33 | <spiderone> | i did exactly what the site said |
19:36 | <spiderone> | but to no avail |
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19:38 | <blueunix> | Hello |
19:38 | <blueunix> | If I install Catalyst 12.1 can I revert back to the open radeon driver easily? |
19:39 | <blueunix> | I'm on squeeze 6.0.4 |
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19:43 | <symptom> | how do i go about installing packages that have been kept back? and why would they be kept back in thefirst place? |
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19:44 | <blueunix> | symptom: what are you trying to install |
19:44 | <uncle_rom> | is anyone else having problems with flash as of yesterday. i know that sounds stupid but it is crashing on 3 different installs, |
19:44 | <blueunix> | like LibreOffice? |
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19:44 | <symptom> | xserver-common from backports |
19:44 | <blueunix> | uncle_rom: no... are you using gnash or Adobe flash from non-free? |
19:45 | <blueunix> | symptom you have to add backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
19:45 | <blueunix> | here hold on |
19:45 | <blueunix> | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main |
19:45 | <symptom> | did that |
19:45 | <blueunix> | add that |
19:45 | <blueunix> | ok |
19:45 | <blueunix> | then go to terminal |
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19:46 | <symptom> | i already installed it but it says a bunch of packages have been kept back. |
19:46 | <DocHolliday> | Can someone help me upgrade iceweasel? the site's info didn't work |
19:46 | <blueunix> | and type in "aptitude -t backports xserver-common" |
19:46 | <blueunix> | hmmm... |
19:47 | <blueunix> | DocHolliday: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" that will update squeeze and iceweasel |
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19:48 | <DocHolliday> | blueunix, i've tried that. I need xulrunner-11.0 but it's not being installed |
19:48 | <blueunix> | symptom: hmmm.... how did you install it |
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19:48 | <blueunix> | Docholliday: what version of iceweasel? 3.5.16-12 package? |
19:48 | <DocHolliday> | no, trying to get the beta |
19:49 | <blueunix> | hmm..... well you could install xrunner from wheezy or sid, but It could break something |
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19:49 | <DocHolliday> | someone gave me a one-time command and it fixed it, but i lost that command :( |
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19:50 | <blueunix> | lol figures :) |
19:50 | <DocHolliday> | i know haha |
19:50 | <blueunix> | well you could try to install xrunner via aptitude but use the "-s" flag to simulate the install and see if it changes anything critical |
19:51 | <blueunix> | i think its "-s" to simulate it... not sure check your flags |
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19:51 | <blueunix> | I mean install xrunner from wheezy or sid and simulate it |
19:51 | <uncle_rom> | blueni i am using nonfree, i think i deleleted a file across the oses by accident thanks |
19:52 | <blueunix> | uncle_rom: yeah I use non-free too... and I'm not having any issues. What file did you delete? |
19:53 | <uncle_rom> | i itried to slim down ubuntu and ai think my 2 debian drives were mounted and i deleted part of iceweasel im not sure yet |
19:53 | <uncle_rom> | it really sucks though they were my control systems |
19:53 | <uncle_rom> | woops |
19:53 | <blueunix> | uncle_rom: ok well you can purge and remove non-free-flash and then reinstall it via aptitude or synaptic |
19:54 | <blueunix> | that should probably fix your issues |
19:55 | <blueunix> | Yeah I always unplug my drives data cables, so that stuff doesn't happen... I've done what you did before too |
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19:56 | <uncle_rom> | ok yeah this is the first time i have had multiple drives thanks- glad to hear it has happened to others as well |
19:56 | <panko> | DocHolliday: if you have activated backports repos, and pass -t option to aptitude it should install xulrunner too |
19:56 | <blueunix> | Does anybody here have experience using Catalyst 12.1 and Squeeze? |
19:57 | <DocHolliday> | panko, let me make sure. |
19:57 | <panko> | and you can have two versions of xulrunner on your system without problems |
19:57 | <panko> | I have 1.9.1 and 10.0 installed |
19:57 | <panko> | (Debian sid) |
19:58 | <DocHolliday> | i'm on squeeze |
19:58 | <u010> | Hello everyone. I just switched from ubuntu to debian server and would like to build up a virtual lab. I have a HP dv7-21dx laptop that I would use for it. What I want is to install a vmware server on debian and then create virtual servers like DSN, DHCP, email, and File servers. This is just a personal project to gaing a little experience using Debian and has no other interest than that. What whoud it be your advise? Thanks |
19:58 | <panko> | DocHolliday: no matter... |
19:58 | <DocHolliday> | panko, its on and nothing's changed |
19:59 | <panko> | if aptitude says it can't install, look if it gives you option to look for other solution (it asks you) |
19:59 | <panko> | just choose 'n' and aptitude try to solve dependencies... |
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20:03 | <panko> | mmm DocHolliday: what version of iceweasel are you trying to install? |
20:03 | <panko> | xulrunner-11 is in experimental repos... |
20:03 | <panko> | ups |
20:03 | <panko> | just late xD |
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20:06 | <Feeck> | whats the topic |
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20:11 | <DocHolliday> | themill, was it you who solved my iceweasel prob? |
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20:12 | <veljko> | I am a horse |
20:13 | <blueunix> | does anyone know the phoronix irc channel off the top of their head? |
20:13 | <blueunix> | is it on free-node? |
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20:13 | <veljko> | I am a horse |
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20:15 | <blueunix> | nevermind it is on freenode |
20:16 | <u010> | hello, does anyone here have experience with virtual servers? |
20:17 | <blueunix> | sorry I don't u010 |
20:17 | <daemonkeeper> | !anyone |
20:17 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
20:18 | <blueunix> | If I install the fglrx driver and I don't like it, can I revert back to xorg radeon driver? |
20:19 | <DocHolliday> | blueunix, i think you'd have to use the recovery environment |
20:19 | <blueunix> | DocHolliday: How do I do that? |
20:19 | <u010> | sorry, i asked before for vmware server on debian. Noone respended and that is why i asked... it might be that i amin the wrong chanel :) |
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20:20 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 444] by debhelper |
20:20 | <blueunix> | is there a recovery package I need to install? |
20:20 | <DocHolliday> | blueunix, there are two options when you boot. one is a recovery environment |
20:20 | <DocHolliday> | and do not quote me, this is just something I feel like i've seen |
20:20 | <blueunix> | lol ok |
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20:21 | <blueunix> | I know there's the kernel prompt, but I haven't seen a recovery option |
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20:21 | <blueunix> | DocHolliday: do you use fglrx? |
20:22 | <DocHolliday> | Not sure what that is, I haven't used it |
20:23 | <blueunix> | oh ok. It's the Ati proprietary driver. |
20:23 | <blueunix> | I'm trying to get opencl working |
20:23 | <blueunix> | thanks for the help |
20:24 | <DocHolliday> | I wish I could help more ;/ |
20:24 | <DocHolliday> | :/ |
20:24 | <DocHolliday> | * |
20:25 | <blueunix> | that's ok |
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20:27 | <blueunix> | Does the current fglrx support HD5000 series gpus? |
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20:27 | <blueunix> | squeeze's fglrx |
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20:34 | <blueunix> | Squeeze's fglrx does support the HD5000 series... the fglrx version is 10.9 in squeeze |
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20:36 | <panko> | blueunix: aptitude show package-name |
20:36 | <panko> | possibly it tells you what models are supported |
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20:37 | <blueunix> | panko: thanks yeah I found it here http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary at the bottom of the page |
20:38 | <blueunix> | it supports all the HD5000 series, but nothing higher |
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20:46 | <nodiscc1> | EmleyMoor: Hi I remember you were looking for multiple bootable ISOs on an USB key, maybe you should have a look at this: http://multicd.tuxfamily.org/ Hope it helps |
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20:53 | <damaru_> | Hi all, just wondering if this is a good place for beginner question or I should use the mail list ? |
20:54 | <cthuluh> | well, all in all you should just ask your question and wait for an answer |
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20:58 | <damaru_> | :) |
20:59 | <damaru_> | well I am trying to install a newer version of iceweasel (version 4 or 5) I did add the mozilla debian repo in my sources and try to install a newer version |
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21:00 | <damaru_> | I am using squeeze and trying to apt-get install squeeze-backport iceweasel-4.0 |
21:01 | <damaru_> | but it seems to be stuck on the 3.5 - I try to use the .deb of wheezy and sid but there is too many dependency and would be a mess to install that |
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21:04 | <sney> | damaru_: I don't think 4 is available anymore |
21:05 | <damaru_> | that's the conclusion I was getting at, is there aversion between 3.5 and 9 ? |
21:05 | <damaru_> | actually I would just need at least 3.6 for most plugin to work |
21:05 | <sney> | I don't think so, unless it's on http://snapshot.debian.org/ |
21:05 | <sney> | 9 is currently available from mozilla.debian.net afaik |
21:06 | <damaru_> | but isn't it just for wheezy ? I would like to avoid too much change in my system atm |
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21:07 | <sney> | http://mozilla.debian.net/ packages are backported to stable. they are intended to be used on stable and they are built for the libraries of stable |
21:08 | <sney> | if you follow the instructions exactly and then do apt-get install -t squeeze-backports iceweasel, you will have iceweasel 9 |
21:08 | <sney> | !backport |
21:08 | <dpkg> | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
21:09 | <damaru_> | :) |
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21:09 | <sney> | firefox/iceweasel is very self-contained so you won't be pulling in very many backported dependencies at all. |
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21:10 | <damaru_> | kool - I'll keep on trying it out - thanks |
21:11 | <damaru_> | ho - does it mather the order in which the sources are place in my source list ? |
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21:12 | <deansu> | I believe not |
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21:16 | <m0rtis0000> | i'm trying to copy 2.3gb from my nas to a flash drive at the grand ole speed of 220.8 KB/sec |
21:19 | <m0rtis0000> | what could be causing it to copy so slowly? |
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21:25 | <damaru_> | hum the problem I had was the apt-get update stop updating because of some deb http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ squeeze-updates main |
21:25 | <jello> | !greet |
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21:25 | <jello> | anyone know how I can find out which kernel module my hvr-2250 needs? |
21:26 | <jello> | google is not my friend today... :( |
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21:30 | <m0rtis0000> | guess it's just a myyyyyystery |
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21:32 | <petr> | hi, is it possible to create alias like: alias x='mkdir $1 && cd $1' ? thanks for help |
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21:32 | <jello> | petr: use double-quotes, not single-quotes |
21:33 | <rudi_s> | petr: Better use a function for that: x() { mkdir $1; cd $1 } |
21:35 | <petr> | I know that it is better, but i want to know if is it possible to create alias like such function |
21:35 | <petr> | jello: double-quotes - not working for me |
21:35 | <rudi_s> | AFAIK some shells support it, but some don't (like zsh). |
21:36 | <rudi_s> | No idea why you want to use an alias for that. |
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21:36 | <rudi_s> | Double quotes won't work, then $1 is interpreted while you define the alias. |
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21:48 | <MolybokratwR> | Καλημέρα |
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22:13 | <crshd> | hey everybody. upgraded my sid box to 3.2.0 yesterday, and now everything went fubar. starting with iwlwifi complaining that it can |
22:13 | <crshd> | *can't find the firmware files |
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22:14 | <crshd> | the iwlwifi-5000-*.ucode ones. but they _are_ in fact in /lib/firmware |
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22:16 | <crshd> | and they do work when i boot the 3.1.0 kernel |
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22:21 | <DocHolliday> | iceweasel : Depends: xulrunner-11.0 (>= 11.0~b2-1~bpo60+1) but it is not going to be installed |
22:21 | <DocHolliday> | any ideas? |
22:21 | <DocHolliday> | I've tried apt-get install xulrunner-11.0 |
22:21 | <DocHolliday> | to no avail |
22:22 | <DocHolliday> | i keep getting these problems even after followig the eXACT steps on the mozilla apt team site |
22:23 | <DocHolliday> | Black_Prince, haven't you helped me with this before? |
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22:24 | <DocHolliday> | I need iceweasel. No other browser works for me as well |
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22:28 | <crshd> | also, xorg is telling me "no screens found" with nvidia's 295, and i think i saw something about alsa not finding any output during boot... |
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22:39 | <JosephHarrietha> | Hello, I have a question on compiling dpkg from source, where should I ask that? |
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22:44 | <JosephHarrietha> | My boss has a server, I manage the debian repository. The server is setup on CentOS. Now, we want to be able to manage the repo serverside, so we need dpkg on there for a few tools. The server is arch i686, but dpkg won't compile to that, so we need it to compile to i386 (correct?) how would I do that |
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22:49 | <jordanm> | JosephHarrietha: you don't need dpkg to setup a debian repository |
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22:49 | <DocHolliday> | has anyone seen my request for help regarding iceweasel? |
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23:08 | <lostson> | why is it everytime i join this channel i get a pm from LiteralKa ? |
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23:16 | <jordanm> | !ops LiteralKa on-join spam |
23:16 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jordanm complains about: LiteralKa on-join spam |
23:16 | <jordanm> | lostson: I got it too, should have reported earlier |
23:16 | <lostson> | i thought maybe it was a mistake but got it 2 more times so it was time to say something |
23:16 | <lostson> | thanks jordanm |
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23:22 | <Alex_Sawyer> | anyone know how to change the hostmask of a debian server? |
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23:28 | <JosephHarrietha> | jordanm, I need it for reprepro. |
23:28 | <JosephHarrietha> | jordanm, Also, for the always needed ... dpkg -b. |
23:29 | -!- | LiteralKa is now known as homogenous |
23:30 | <JosephHarrietha> | !ops LiteralKa on-join spam, changed name to homogenous to avoid persecution. |
23:30 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: josephharrietha complains about: LiteralKa on-join spam, changed name to homogenous to avoid persecution. |
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23:32 | -!- | homogenous is now known as persecution |
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23:35 | <persecution> | !ops JosephHarrietha spaming this: http://pump.pp4l.me/proof.php?evidence=4000 |
23:35 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: persecution complains about: JosephHarrietha spaming this: http://pump.pp4l.me/proof.php?evidence=4000 |
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23:55 | <Firdaus1> | l have the proble when |
23:55 | <Firdaus1> | iwconfig wlan0 key "samsungsue" |
23:56 | <Firdaus1> | Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : |
23:56 | <Firdaus1> | SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument. |
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