| --- | Log | opened Sat Feb 18 00:00:03 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Sat Feb 18 2012 |
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| 00:02 | <gsimmons> | Firdaus: For WEP, use the s: prefix for ASCII strings (e.g. 'iwconfig wlan0 key s:samsungsue'). To provide a WPA passphrase, use wpa_supplicant (/msg dpkg wpa). |
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| 00:24 | <blueunix> | Hello |
| 00:25 | <blueunix> | I'm trying to install opencl for my AMD HD5000 card on Squeeze. |
| 00:25 | <blueunix> | I have the fglrx driver installed and working fine |
| 00:26 | <blueunix> | According to the Debian wiki http://wiki.debian.org/ATIStream there should be a packaged called |
| 00:26 | <blueunix> | amd-libopencl1, but I can't find it |
| 00:26 | <blueunix> | How can I install opencl? |
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| 00:27 | <blueunix> | I see the nvidia-libopencl1 package but not for AMD |
| 00:28 | <jordanm> | ,versions libopencl1 |
| 00:28 | <judd> | No package named 'libopencl1' was found in i386. |
| 00:28 | <lostson> | would it be maybe ati-libopencl1? |
| 00:28 | <jordanm> | ,versions amd-libopencl1 |
| 00:28 | <judd> | Package: amd-libopencl1 on i386 -- sid/non-free: 1:12-1-1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-1-1 |
| 00:28 | <jordanm> | !tell blueunix about ssb |
| 00:28 | <lostson> | oh its not availalbe in squeeze |
| 00:29 | <blueunix> | I'm running x64 |
| 00:30 | <blueunix> | jordanm: is it available in backports? |
| 00:30 | <jordanm> | blueunix: no |
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| 00:32 | <blueunix> | ok if I install it form wheezy will it work with squeeze's fglrx driver? |
| 00:32 | <blueunix> | edit: from* |
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| 00:33 | <jordanm> | blueunix: probably not, see the msg you got from dpkg |
| 00:34 | <blueunix> | ok |
| 00:35 | <blueunix> | if I add wheezy to my source lists and try to install amd-libopencl1 via apt-get, it will resolve any dependencies right? |
| 00:35 | <mosno> | is there a way to preview the look of all fonts in the debian archive, like a website? |
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| 00:41 | <jordanm> | blueunix: good chance it will break your system. never mix releases |
| 00:42 | <jordanm> | !tell mosno about sdo |
| 00:42 | <jordanm> | mosno: not sure if any fonts are there |
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| 00:45 | <blueunix> | thanks for your help jordanm, lostson and judd, but I'm still unsure how to go about getting amd-libopencl1 installed... |
| 00:45 | <blueunix> | I added wheezy to my source list and did apt-get update |
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| 00:46 | <blueunix> | now when I go to install amd-libopencl1, it says all i need is amd-opencl-icd and multiarch-support... does this sound like it will break my system? |
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| 00:48 | <lostson> | blueunix: it very well could I would make the appropriate backups and such before executing such a plan |
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| 00:48 | <blueunix> | ok thanks lostson |
| 00:49 | <lostson> | blueunix: no and good luck hope it works out for you |
| 00:49 | <blueunix> | hmm... well I'll try it and report back lol |
| 00:49 | <blueunix> | thanks |
| 00:49 | <blueunix> | here goes nothing |
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| 00:50 | <blueunix> | i used to use cryptsetup from squeeze when I was using lenny and I had no issues |
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| 00:56 | <blueunix> | back after reboot if it works |
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| 00:58 | <blueunix> | back |
| 00:59 | <blueunix> | It seems to work |
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| 00:59 | <blueunix> | so apparently you can install amd-libopencl1 from wheezy with squeeze and fglrx and it doesn't break your system |
| 00:59 | <blueunix> | thanks all for the help |
| 01:00 | <lostson> | glad it worked for you blueunix |
| 01:01 | <blueunix> | thanks me too lol... I didn't feel like reinstalling :) |
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| 01:07 | <Domio> | hi |
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| 01:08 | <Domio> | huh? |
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| 01:10 | <Krishna> | Hi |
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| 01:13 | <Krishna> | Hi greer |
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| 01:19 | <mrd> | any hackers from india |
| 01:19 | <Firdaus> | l am from indonesia |
| 01:20 | <mrd> | ok |
| 01:20 | <mrd> | firdaus |
| 01:20 | <mrd> | can u help me |
| 01:20 | <mrd> | its urgent |
| 01:20 | <mrd> | plzzz |
| 01:21 | <mrd> | i owe u my life if u do it |
| 01:21 | <mrd> | plzzzzzzzz |
| 01:21 | <mrd> | plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 01:21 | <mrd> | iam deepu vc iam from india |
| 01:21 | <shame-on-you> | Yes? |
| 01:22 | <mrd> | 209.15.238.85 |
| 01:22 | <mrd> | i need to find the wesite owner |
| 01:22 | <shame-on-you> | Considering a majority of people from India that use the internet are natural users of English, why is yours so shitty? |
| 01:22 | <mrd> | his country |
| 01:23 | <mrd> | how come u say my english is shitty |
| 01:23 | <mrd> | u really are shame onur self |
| 01:24 | <Sicelo> | lol |
| 01:24 | <shame-on-you> | What? |
| 01:24 | <Sicelo> | anyway, both of you are off-topic |
| 01:24 | <shame-on-you> | I can't read crap, son. |
| 01:24 | <Firdaus> | http://209.15.238.85/cgi-sys/defaultwebpage.cgi < this is down yes ? |
| 01:24 | <mrd> | nono |
| 01:24 | <mrd> | its active |
| 01:24 | <Sicelo> | off-topic |
| 01:24 | <mrd> | http://shariah4hind.com/ |
| 01:24 | <mrd> | is the wesite |
| 01:25 | <shame-on-you> | use whois |
| 01:25 | <mrd> | i need to know where is from being operated |
| 01:25 | <mrd> | i did |
| 01:25 | <mrd> | no use |
| 01:25 | <shame-on-you> | traceroute |
| 01:25 | <mrd> | not in india |
| 01:25 | <shame-on-you> | haha |
| 01:26 | <shame-on-you> | traceroute is in india |
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| 01:26 | <mrd> | never my service provider blocked my ping |
| 01:26 | <mrd> | too |
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| 01:29 | <simonlnu> | mrd: whois domainname in a terminal (you may have to install whois first) |
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| 01:36 | <simonlnu> | mrd: do not /msg people without asking please |
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| 01:49 | <ayaka> | i need pkgdetails arm version to install debian where can i get it |
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| 01:51 | <simonlnu> | any debian mirror that has arm packages? |
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| 01:52 | <ayaka> | no |
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| 02:06 | <Guest3019> | hello |
| 02:11 | <Sicelo> | ayaka: shouldn't that come with debootstrap? |
| 02:12 | <Sicelo> | or be taken care of by it |
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| 02:15 | <ayaka> | i don't think so |
| 02:16 | <Sicelo> | there seems to be no package named pkgdetails, not even for i386 :/ |
| 02:21 | <ayaka> | i install perl then work,but new problem come |
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| 02:23 | <ayaka> | while doing that i am a root http://paste.debian.net/156718/ |
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| 02:37 | <tazz> | development, is PMing people with URLs |
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| 02:39 | <ubuntu> | mike |
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| 02:47 | <ayaka> | Sicelo thank you |
| 02:47 | <development> | tazz: ? |
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| 02:48 | <tazz> | development, i got a PM from you as soon as i joined #debian "<development> http://pump.pp4l.me/proof.php?evidence=almanar" |
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| 02:49 | <Sicelo> | ayaka: i have no further idea :( |
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| 02:50 | <ayaka> | that is enough i think i should use computer to do that |
| 02:50 | <bob_> | Hi i am looking at the debian download site and i see the 6.04 the cd iso,s there seems to be 53 images is this right thanks |
| 02:50 | <deansu> | tazz: please don't repaste spam links :) |
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| 02:51 | <tazz> | deansu, got it. |
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| 02:57 | <simonlnu> | !ops development spamming people |
| 02:57 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: simonlnu complains about: development spamming people |
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| 02:59 | <simonlnu> | !ops same fricking spammer as in freenode #debian |
| 02:59 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: simonlnu complains about: same fricking spammer as in freenode #debian |
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| 02:59 | <ayaka> | bob_ you want to down which to boot? |
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| 03:00 | <Firdaus> | how to prepare ossim on debian ? |
| 03:00 | <bob_> | ayaka but do i need the whole 52 iso's |
| 03:00 | <bob_> | ayaka 6.0.4 |
| 03:01 | <ayaka> | bob_ no in case you need all debian software,iso 1 is bootable |
| 03:02 | <bob_> | ayaka ok so one does the install the others all all the packages that debian can use? |
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| 03:03 | <simonlnu> | bob_: it's the whole of squeeze. you can fetch that via the net if you want instead. |
| 03:03 | <simonlnu> | bob_: www.debian.org/CD/ and read there |
| 03:04 | <bob_> | thanks |
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| 03:04 | <ayaka> | bob_ i'm sorry i can understand you can you speak english in a simply way,you can install software by network,and ios 1 can give you a basic debian to use |
| 03:05 | <bob_> | ayaka ok where do you have it so i can get it |
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| 03:06 | <ayaka> | bob_ have what? |
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| 03:06 | <Firdaus> | ? |
| 03:07 | <bob_> | ayaka you said you had a basic to give me to use |
| 03:08 | <ayaka> | bob_ i'm sorry,i mean iso 1 is a basic debian |
| 03:08 | <bob_> | ayaka ok thanks |
| 03:08 | <ayaka> | i only use iso1 to install |
| 03:09 | <musca> | !various cd1 |
| 03:09 | <dpkg> | There are CD-1 choices for various DEs (Desktop Environments) - there's one for GNOME, another for KDE, and one for XFCE/LXDE. For example; if you wanted the XFCE/LXDE CD-1 of Squeeze, you'd grab -> debian-600-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso from the mirrors (if you were going for i386 arch). Also ask me about <firmware images>, <release notes>, <ig>, <setup.exe>. |
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| 04:07 | <dutchfish> | hi, can somebody point me into the right direction converting kgpg setup on wheezy after ocnverting from squeeze in regards to gpg setup and its agent on kgpg and what the recommanded dirs and path are, the debian way? the docs are missing at this point | the default setup from squeeze does not work for my keys. |
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| 04:25 | <lp> | does it make any sense to have anacron installed on an always-running server? |
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| 04:26 | <dutchfish> | lp, yes, think on updates |
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| 04:27 | <lp> | dutchfish: cron-apt needs anacron to run daily, is this what you mean? |
| 04:27 | <dutchfish> | lp, you don want your next kernel update/reboot cycle to mess up |
| 04:27 | <dutchfish> | lp, and more niche events |
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| 04:28 | <lp> | dutchfish: what does this have to do with kernel updates? missing some actions because a reboot at the wrong time, after a kernel update? |
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| 04:28 | <dutchfish> | yes |
| 04:28 | <dutchfish> | or at least not sheduled right |
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| 04:29 | <lp> | dutchfish: got it, just wanted to be sure - thanks (the description recommends it for laptops, and it's not installed by default on desktops or servers - it's part of the tasksel laptop task) |
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| 04:29 | <dutchfish> | it depends of couse on your setup, things like rotational schemes, external logging and some more, if you plan very carefull you could find alternatives, but the q is why you want to do that? |
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| 04:30 | <dutchfish> | hybernation is another one |
| 04:30 | <dutchfish> | or at least the wakeup cycle |
| 04:30 | <lp> | dutchfish: i was wondering if some things will be executed twice, once by normal cron and once by anacron |
| 04:31 | <dutchfish> | nope, if it is, itś a bug |
| 04:31 | <lp> | ok, thanks |
| 04:31 | <dutchfish> | think of cron as a shedular in time, anacron as a shedular in order |
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| 04:32 | <dutchfish> | if anacron is done executing it takes almost 0 cycles, so leave it as it was ment |
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| 04:34 | <dutchfish> | lp, http://wiki.debian.org/CronAnacronAtBatchSchedulers |
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| 04:38 | <lp> | dutchfish: thanks |
| 04:38 | <dutchfish> | yw |
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| 04:50 | <jaci> | Jaci Poli |
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| 06:06 | <amoe> | I tried to use /etc/asound.conf to add a custom control to alsamixer, but I decided I didn't want it. However, even after I removed the custom /etc/asound.conf, the control is still there. How can I remove it? Can I safely just remove /var/lib/alsa/asound.state? |
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| 06:17 | <ayaka> | debootstrap --second-stage will support it? |
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| 06:20 | <Firdaus> | how to connect to vpn server from CLI Terminal ? |
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| 06:22 | <Firdaus> | buzzzzzzzz |
| 06:23 | <weasel> | underspecified question. |
| 06:24 | <Firdaus> | how connect to vpn-server from terminal ? |
| 06:25 | <weasel> | what kind of VPN? |
| 06:25 | <Firdaus> | Virtual Private Network |
| 06:26 | <weasel> | thanks. hand. |
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| 06:26 | <steven> | hello guys |
| 06:26 | <steven> | i need help |
| 06:27 | <Firdaus> | how connect to vpn-server from terminal ? |
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| 06:27 | <steven> | i can start my irssi and i join the server and channel but i can not say anyone speak there |
| 06:27 | <steven> | what `s the problerm,does anyone known? |
| 06:27 | <weasel> | Firdaus: if you just repeat your question and don't answer questions in a useful way we will not be able to help you. |
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| 06:28 | <steven> | here is the thing |
| 06:28 | <Firdaus> | yes |
| 06:28 | <weasel> | steven: you cannot what? |
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| 06:29 | <steven> | i join the channal with irssi and i can not see anyone who is talkin about |
| 06:29 | <weasel> | maybe nobody said a thing? |
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| 06:29 | <steven> | that is a reason maybe but if i join this channel i still can not say anyone spoken also |
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| 06:30 | <weasel> | steven: "say" is not the same as "see" |
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| 06:30 | <weasel> | dibbler! |
| 06:30 | <steven> | sorry for mistaken |
| 06:30 | <steven> | you guys ever tryed irssi |
| 06:30 | <steven> | ? |
| 06:30 | <weasel> | yes. |
| 06:30 | <weasel> | it's the only sane irc client. |
| 06:31 | <ayaka> | where is $PATH be set? |
| 06:31 | <weasel> | ayaka: it depends. so many possibilities. |
| 06:31 | <steven> | sorry is there anything with the $PATH |
| 06:32 | <ayaka> | weasel, in default,I am install debian in mobile |
| 06:32 | <mosno> | jordanm: i was thinking more of image previews of all debian fonts |
| 06:32 | <weasel> | ayaka: .xsession if you use that to start your x session, or if you log in on a terminal, your shell login script like .bash_profile |
| 06:32 | <mosno> | jordanm: ie. a visual image |
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| 06:32 | <ayaka> | weasel, where is the gobal setting(for all user) |
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| 06:34 | <weasel> | there is also /etc/profile |
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| 06:34 | <weasel> | but maybe you shouldn't have to muck with PATH in the first place? |
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| 06:35 | <Firdaus> | can you help mee |
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| 06:35 | <heloman> | now i have known what is really going on with my irssi,by the way i am the guy who named steven just now,like weasel said there is nobody takling... |
| 06:35 | <ayaka> | weasel, yes,without it debootstrap in chroot(in adb)can't find cat |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | ayaka: um. what? |
| 06:36 | <ayaka> | weasel, what is what,what do you want to know |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | ayaka: (you can set PATH in your shell too, export PATH=...) |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | ayaka: I wonder why debootstrap wouldn't find cat. something is seriously off |
| 06:37 | <ayaka> | weasel, I forget it,but set it is a good way |
| 06:37 | <weasel> | it is set to a sane thing by default |
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| 06:39 | <ayaka> | weasel, no you can't copy a profile to sovle it,you should export PATH= to solve it |
| 06:40 | <weasel> | um. what? |
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| 06:42 | <ayaka> | weasel, no,you must use export PATH= to sovle it, then it stop after /debootstrap/debootstrap in I: Installing core packages... |
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| 06:42 | <weasel> | why is your PATH not correct to begin with? |
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| 06:44 | <steven_> | wow |
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| 06:49 | <ayaka> | weasel, I don't know may be debootstrap is a little different |
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| 06:50 | <ayaka> | weasel, i install armhf wheezy,maybe there is a problem in it |
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| 07:14 | <CyberPax> | Hullo guys |
| 07:15 | <ribe> | hi guy! |
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| 07:19 | <ayaka> | I don't why I should do /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage,why it not be done in pc,which takes my mobile long time |
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| 07:29 | <ayaka> | chroot can't test whether my kernel work or not,can it? |
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| 07:44 | <shaun-> | are there any problems using iptables's DNAT target instead of using a reverse proxy, if all I'm doing is trying to mask my www server's address? |
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| 07:48 | <engla> | ayaka: second-stage-dir= ? |
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| 07:49 | <ayaka> | engla, have you test it,but I have done,but what I'm concerning is that there are two few software |
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| 07:51 | <engla> | ayaka: I haven't tested it actually. I haven't used debootstrap for other devices (but I've used it to make bootable usb drives) |
| 07:51 | <ayaka> | engla, thank you |
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| 08:01 | <ayaka> | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian/dists/main/contrib/binary-armhf/Packages when I apt-get update,what's up? |
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| 08:11 | <ayaka> | how to config computer use usb mobile to internet |
| 08:13 | <devil> | ayaka: without further info: usb-modeswitch and wvdial |
| 08:14 | <ayaka> | devil, in fact,I don't know what I want,I want to ssh computer by usb |
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| 08:15 | <devil> | hm, i dont understand |
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| 08:17 | <ayaka> | devil, I want my mobile be regard as a ethernet card,then I can use ssh connect pc by use,shall I set my mobile in usb modern? |
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| 08:23 | <The> | hallo ? |
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| 08:24 | <Neo> | hallo ? |
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| 08:24 | <Neo> | hay |
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| 08:25 | <Neo> | speek german ? |
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| 08:34 | <engla> | ayaka: malformed entry in sources.list ? |
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| 08:34 | <engla> | do .cn mirrors work like other debian mirrors? |
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| 08:34 | <ayaka> | engla, it seems mobile network problem,but it ping normal,I wonder what's up |
| 08:35 | <engla> | ayaka: the file http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian/dists/main/contrib/binary-armhf/Packages does not exist |
| 08:35 | <engla> | because "main" (in the URL) is not a distribution |
| 08:35 | <engla> | so check your sources.list |
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| 08:35 | <ayaka> | engla, ok,I see |
| 08:38 | <Weeper> | Hello, I have installed the proprietry graphics driver for my ATI "ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400" that is what lspci -v tells me I have. It all installed fine and well and works with great resolutions now, my only problem is I do not have 3d acceleration enabled and can not seem to get it enabled I was hoping one of you guys could either point me in the right direction or give me a hand ? thanks :) |
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| 08:38 | <s3a> | How do I make my swap partition be activated before the root partition upon booting my system? |
| 08:38 | <s3a> | It's causing my hibernations to not be resumed and is clearing my swap all the time. |
| 08:39 | <s3a> | I noticed the sequence of events on the booting screen. |
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| 08:39 | <s3a> | That is, root starts first and then fsck recovers the journal and then the swap is useless. |
| 08:39 | <engla> | s3a: don't you need a special kernel parameter to start the resume? |
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| 08:40 | <s3a> | engla, i don't know. all i did was change /etc/fstab and it does work as "extra ram" but i want it for hibernation |
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| 08:41 | <Weeper> | any ideas please? I am kinda stuck in 2d acceleration lol makes the screen so jerky :( |
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| 08:42 | <ayaka> | engla, deb http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian wheezy main non-free contrib is correct but still error |
| 08:44 | <engla> | ayaka: I don't know why, pastebin full sources.list and full error and maybe someone can help you |
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| 08:44 | <ayaka> | engla, that is only one sentence |
| 08:44 | <deansu> | !tell Weeper -about radeon |
| 08:46 | <Weeper> | hmm I already have libgl1-mesa-dri installed shouldnt that give me 3d acceleration? or is that only for the open source driver? |
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| 08:47 | <deansu> | are you using fglrx? |
| 08:47 | <Weeper> | yeah |
| 08:47 | <Weeper> | I think so |
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| 08:49 | <Weeper> | just not sure how to enable 3d acceleration on it |
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| 08:49 | <deansu> | ah, do you have firmware-linux-nonfree? |
| 08:50 | <Weeper> | i will check |
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| 08:51 | <Weeper> | I have 2 things in synaptics "firmware-linux-nonfree" and "firmware-linux-free" currently the nonfree shows as installed |
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| 08:52 | <devil> | for fglrx you do not need that |
| 08:52 | <Weeper> | hmm |
| 08:52 | <devil> | what does dpkg -l | grep fglrx say? |
| 08:52 | <devil> | pastebin the output |
| 08:52 | <Weeper> | ok |
| 08:53 | <Weeper> | here you go devil http://pastebin.com/pJqvBC9c |
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| 08:54 | <devil> | Weeper: glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 08:54 | <Weeper> | ok |
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| 08:55 | <Weeper> | hmm dont think my output looks so healthy... lol http://pastebin.com/AYD3qDhp |
| 08:55 | <devil> | as user please |
| 08:56 | <Weeper> | ok |
| 08:56 | <Weeper> | so without sudo yes ? |
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| 08:56 | <devil> | yes |
| 08:57 | <Weeper> | ok |
| 08:57 | <devil> | why is everyone using sudo these days? :) |
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| 08:57 | <ompaul> | devil: cos they come from a land down under - (always down under from a different point on the planet) |
| 08:57 | <Weeper> | I get the same output without sudo http://pastebin.com/tc6VnzJg |
| 08:57 | <devil> | ompaul: :) |
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| 08:58 | <Weeper> | lol I find sudo quicker than havign to su then log out when im done everytime, just my personal preference :P |
| 08:58 | <devil> | Weeper: i have root-consoles open over weeks |
| 08:58 | <devil> | many at a time |
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| 08:58 | <Weeper> | hmm |
| 08:59 | <ompaul> | Weeper: su -C |
| 08:59 | <Weeper> | dunno then maybe its because I am new to debian from ubuntu, ubuntu got me into sudoing lol, i will try that command now ompaul |
| 08:59 | <ompaul> | Weeper: now if you do su -c command you get an even better idea |
| 08:59 | <ompaul> | cos C was a typo |
| 08:59 | <Weeper> | oh ok lol |
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| 09:00 | <devil> | well regarding your output: you got fglrx installed, but seems not to work right. i am slightly itrritated by fglrx-glx-ia32. do you need that? i gotta run, so cant untangle this one |
| 09:01 | <Weeper> | not sure myself if its needed or not i think it might have installed automatically ? |
| 09:01 | <Weeper> | with the other stuff i installed |
| 09:01 | <Weeper> | I am on a 64-bit system btw |
| 09:01 | <ayaka> | devil, engla thank you |
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| 09:04 | <Weeper> | if no one is available at the moment to help is it easy enough to remove the fglrx driver? and go back to the opensource driver ? and I can try another day when its possible to get help? :) |
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| 09:07 | <deansu> | Weeper: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? |
| 09:07 | <Weeper> | yeah |
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| 09:08 | <deansu> | could you pastebin it? |
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| 09:09 | <Weeper> | ok |
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| 09:10 | <Weeper> | here you go deansu http://pastebin.com/pwgTJFM2 |
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| 09:12 | <deansu> | that looks clean as a whistle to me, out of curiosity, you have restarted X since installing fglrx right? |
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| 09:13 | <Weeper> | i installed through Ctrl+Alt F1 in command line and i stopped gdm3 and started |
| 09:13 | <Weeper> | does that count as a restart? |
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| 09:14 | <Weeper> | sorry for anything I dont quite understand or do wrong I am still quite new to all this |
| 09:15 | <deansu> | I'm only slightly further along my self :) I personally try a reboot first to see if that fixes X before going down the route of changing back drivers |
| 09:15 | <Weeper> | ok want me to restart now then ? |
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| 09:15 | <deansu> | since I have to go to bed, I believe I made sure xserver-xorg-video-radeon* was installed, then I uninstalled fglrx and moved assign the xorg.conf when I rolled back my self a couple of months ago |
| 09:16 | <Weeper> | hmm |
| 09:16 | <deansu> | its worth a try :) |
| 09:16 | <Weeper> | I think i have a backup of xorg before I installed fglrx so if restart dont fix it just uninstall fglrx and restore the back up xorg.conf? and shoulda ll be fine ? |
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| 09:17 | <engla> | you need xorg.conf? |
| 09:17 | <Weeper> | i dunno... i thought everyone did lol |
| 09:17 | <engla> | not in modern Xorg |
| 09:17 | <deansu> | I believe it can all autoconfigure in most cases with out it |
| 09:17 | <Weeper> | ok |
| 09:17 | <Weeper> | I will go and restart now see what happens :) |
| 09:17 | <Weeper> | brb |
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| 09:20 | <Weeper> | deansu, no luck lol, still really jerky 2d acceleration no 3d :( |
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| 09:27 | <deansu> | Weeper: well thats no fun, maybe some one else will have an idea |
| 09:28 | <Weeper> | nope :( but thank you for your time anyway, I will try another day if there is no one else available right now :) |
| 09:28 | <cola_ftw_> | any good irssi scripts? |
| 09:28 | <Weeper> | now my name "Weeper" is more literal because my card dont work lol xD |
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| 09:29 | <rasVanDerA> | hand made |
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| 09:29 | <gondoel> | mm |
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| 09:42 | <Weeper> | I am off for a bit, thanks for the help guys :) |
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| 09:42 | <Weeper> | going to get my open source driver back on for a while xD so I can do some stuff properly still :P |
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| 09:43 | <lucien> | hi |
| 09:43 | <ayaka> | it seem safe remove in gnome can remove some disk which has two part |
| 09:44 | <lucien> | I want to ask....how can i run a python script in crontab? |
| 09:44 | <lucien> | I'm using ubuntu 11.10 |
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| 09:44 | <themill> | lucien: you want #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
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| 09:45 | <lucien> | oh...thank you |
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| 10:01 | <mlechner> | hi, is it possible to configure ssh daemon (sshd_config) to have some users authenticate via password and other useres keybased only? |
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| 10:02 | <gby> | Hi |
| 10:02 | <gby> | Can any one pawn me in a PXE direction? |
| 10:02 | <engla> | pawns only move forward though |
| 10:03 | <gby> | ???,,, Let me rephrase then... |
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| 10:03 | <gby> | Does anyone know a good channel for PXE conversations? |
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| 10:06 | <Volley> | gby: could you rephrase maybe another time and give a small hint about what you try to do? |
| 10:07 | <gby> | Sorry, Im trying to installing a PXE server on my home network, (after seeing a segment from hak5) and its not going that well. |
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| 10:08 | <gby> | I was woundering if there is a channel for this kind of subjects. |
| 10:09 | <Volley> | gby: hmm. use pxe to netboot a resuce system and it works quite well actually ... http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=terminalserver might give you some hints ... |
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| 10:09 | <gby> | Thanks, Ill check it out. |
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| 10:10 | <babilen> | gby: It would also help if you could elaborate on the "not going that well" part -- I doubt that it is in bed with a fever ;) |
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| 10:12 | <Volley> | babilen: more likely it had tummy issues and barfed over |
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| 10:13 | <gby> | Hehe, true. I dont know what the problem is, I have done everything as Im suppose to... (obviously not though)... Setup tftpboot and the nfs kernel server... |
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| 10:23 | <rudi_s> | mlechner: Sure. man sshd_config and check the Match directive. |
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| 10:23 | <s3a> | How do I make my swap partition be activated before the root partition upon booting my system? It's causing my hibernations to not be resumed and is clearing my swap all the time. I noticed the sequence of events on the booting screen. That is, root starts first and then fsck recovers the journal and then the swap is useless. |
| 10:24 | <s3a> | The swap works as "extra ram" but not for hibernating purposes. It seems that the hibernation process works but resuming from it fails because the root partition gets activated first. |
| 10:25 | <sney> | well, except the root partition needs to be activated in order for the system to parse /etc/fstab and turn on swap |
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| 10:26 | <sney> | and that's how it normally goes, including on systems where s2disk works perfectly fine. so your problem likely lies elsewhere |
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| 10:26 | <Timphan> | how about debian-python ? |
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| 10:27 | <themill> | Timphan: try asking a question that actually has an answer |
| 10:28 | <zynon> | What is the meaning of life ? |
| 10:28 | <zynon> | :) |
| 10:28 | <zynon> | j/k |
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| 10:31 | <zynon> | Quick question, according to what im reading I dont need the volatile and backports in squeeze when switching from lenny to squeeze ? |
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| 10:32 | <Weeper021> | Hello I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand, I tried to install ati propriety graphics drivers and i was stuck with 2d acceleration no 3d... so I removed the flgrx driver and rebooted now I am stuck on a blank flashing screen.. I can not get the open source driver to work I assume I need to auto configure my xorg for the open source driver ? but I am unaware how to do this, any ideas please? |
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| 10:32 | <gby> | Volley: babilen: Can you boot qemu from your pxe server with qemu -boot order=nc? |
| 10:32 | <sney> | Weeper021: for the free driver, just make sure xorg.conf is renamed/deleted and it should autoconfigure normally |
| 10:32 | <Weeper021> | ohh ..that easy thanks :D I will go and try that now |
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| 10:34 | <Weeper021> | ok it is removed |
| 10:34 | <Weeper021> | so i just reboot laptop as normal now and it should work? |
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| 10:35 | <Kr8termass> | I'm trying to change my gateway via a cronjob that just runs a simple command "route add default gw 192.168.1.2 eth0", but I keep getting "/bin/sh: route: not found" |
| 10:35 | <Kr8termass> | when it runs |
| 10:36 | <zynon> | Kr8termass, its saying it cant find the location of the command, or the command doesnt exist |
| 10:36 | <Kr8termass> | any ideas why and how to get it to run properly |
| 10:36 | <sney> | Kr8termass: use full paths in scripts and cron jobs |
| 10:36 | <zynon> | Kr8termass, full paths in scripts and cron jobs will fix it.. |
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| 10:36 | <zynon> | :( <--- to slow |
| 10:36 | <sney> | so /sbin/route instead of just route |
| 10:37 | <Kr8termass> | ahh... thank you both, did not know that I needed full paths |
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| 10:40 | <Weeper021> | sney thanks that worked :D |
| 10:40 | <zeropiel> | When I have an open VPN tunnel, can I decide what connection goes through the tunnel? |
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| 10:49 | <Weeper021> | howcome I have no xorg.conf in my /etc/X11/ directory? |
| 10:49 | <Weeper021> | shouldnt it be created automatically? |
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| 10:50 | <Weeper021> | once removed |
| 10:50 | <babilen> | !tell Weeper021 -about empty xorg.conf |
| 10:50 | <babilen> | !tell Weeper021 -about xorg.conf.d |
| 10:50 | <InstaGib111> | salut a tous |
| 10:50 | <InstaGib111> | je suis français et je viens juste d'installer Xubuntu |
| 10:50 | <babilen> | !fr |
| 10:50 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 10:51 | <babilen> | InstaGib111: Ah, you want #ubuntu-fr at irc.freenode.net (This is #debian) |
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| 10:51 | <Weeper021> | so what do I do after reinstalling my open source graphics driver if alls I get loading is a blinking black screen |
| 10:51 | <Weeper021> | I thoght iw ould need to reset the xorg.conf... |
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| 10:52 | <sney> | the free 'radeon' driver that you're using does not need xorg.conf |
| 10:52 | <sney> | and having an xorg.conf there that refers to another driver, like fglrx, just causes it to not work |
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| 10:54 | <ayaka> | withou debooystrap,could install debian to a specifical place? |
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| 10:57 | <Weeper021> | hmm ok |
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| 10:58 | <Weeper021> | I will play about some more see if i can get a picture back |
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| 10:59 | <Weeper021> | im guessing this is correct "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon" to install the free open source radeon driver again? |
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| 11:00 | <sney> | that's the right package but it should already be installed |
| 11:00 | <Weeper021> | yeah |
| 11:00 | <sney> | you do need firmware-linux-nonfree for it to work fully though |
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| 11:00 | <jello> | ayaka: what's wrong with debootstrap |
| 11:00 | <Weeper021> | ok i will check that is installed |
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| 11:00 | <cola_ftw_> | what is the default wm of debian 6.0.4 |
| 11:01 | <Weeper021> | nonfree for the opensource dirver? |
| 11:01 | <jello> | Weeper021: the driver is open, the firmware isn't |
| 11:01 | <Weeper021> | ok |
| 11:01 | <cola_ftw_> | what is the default wm of debian 6.0.4 |
| 11:01 | <sney> | cola_ftw_: gnome 2 |
| 11:02 | <cola_ftw_> | nice, ty |
| 11:02 | <jello> | cola_ftw_: why do you care? |
| 11:02 | <Weeper021> | i already have nonfree installed |
| 11:02 | <jello> | Weeper021: do you have that specific package? |
| 11:02 | <cola_ftw_> | sney: considering downloading it |
| 11:02 | <Weeper021> | yeah i have it installed |
| 11:02 | <jello> | cola_ftw_: you can pick which one you want at install time if you like |
| 11:03 | <cola_ftw_> | jello: what are the choices |
| 11:03 | <jello> | cola_ftw_: let's see |
| 11:03 | <ayaka> | jello,it cost too much ,and it's hard to get a debian in china(i can't use mine), |
| 11:03 | <jello> | kde, gnome, lxde, xfce, ratpoison |
| 11:04 | <ayaka> | it can only be used in debian |
| 11:04 | <jello> | ayaka: deboostrap is a program -- you can download it |
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| 11:04 | <cola_ftw_> | does the ratpoison require programming knowledge? |
| 11:04 | <jello> | cola_ftw_: probably a bunch more that i'm forgetting |
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| 11:04 | <jello> | cola_ftw_: probably not |
| 11:05 | <ayaka> | jello i know but it need dpkg and other file to install deb package |
| 11:05 | <cola_ftw_> | thank you very much :) |
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| 11:05 | <ayaka> | jello i have tried to run it in android and installed perl |
| 11:06 | <jello> | ayaka: i think there's a page somewhere on installing debian over android... |
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| 11:07 | <ayaka> | jello where？i have to do that with pc help,but safety-remove failed me,and i can't use pc anymore |
| 11:08 | <jello> | ayaka: what hardware/phone? |
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| 11:08 | <jello> | ayaka: you also may want to ask in #debian-arm, they may know more |
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| 11:09 | <ayaka> | jello i have done,i only get debootstrap way,but if i know which file does it need to decompree i can try again |
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| 11:10 | <Weeper021> | now I just get a bank white screen :( |
| 11:10 | <Weeper021> | I ant get my laptop to boot up with the free open source drivers even... :( |
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| 11:11 | <jello> | ayaka: it installs many files, not just a few |
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| 11:12 | <ayaka> | jello are you sure,could you say some neesary,i don't means the file which it down auto |
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| 11:13 | <jello> | ayaka: there are a number of pages if you search google for "install debian on android" |
| 11:13 | <mlechner> | rudi_s: thnx. Match directive was what I was looking for |
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| 11:13 | <rudi_s> | np |
| 11:13 | <jello> | ayaka: they don't mention debootstrap |
| 11:14 | <ayaka> | jello thank you but it seems it need a pc |
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| 11:14 | <jello> | ayaka: ok |
| 11:14 | <jello> | good luck |
| 11:15 | <jello> | Weeper021: can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
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| 11:17 | <Weeper021> | I will look, 1 moment though please it is just in the process of installing the driver again |
| 11:18 | <Weeper021> | ok it is starting back up ut how can I post that to you when I am in Ctrl+Alt+F1 ? |
| 11:18 | <ayaka> | jello but a lot of pages i didn't read,because they are blocked in china |
| 11:18 | <jello> | Weeper021: install lynx (text-based browser) |
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| 11:18 | <Weeper021> | ok |
| 11:19 | <jello> | using lynx you can go to paste.debian.net |
| 11:19 | <Weeper021> | 1 moment then pleae I am not the best when it comes to using command line xD |
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| 11:20 | <abrotman> | or use pastebinit |
| 11:21 | <jello> | abrotman: never heard of it, thanks! |
| 11:23 | <abrotman> | hi jello |
| 11:23 | <Weeper021> | I can not install lynx |
| 11:24 | <zynon> | Weeper021, apt-get install lynx |
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| 11:24 | <Weeper021> | "E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fi-missing?" |
| 11:24 | <Weeper021> | i tried that but i dont think it is connected to the internet right now |
| 11:24 | <Weeper021> | is there a command to connect to the wireless ? |
| 11:24 | <Weeper021> | when in tty1 or whatever it is called? |
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| 11:25 | <zynon> | I dont remember off hand, there is no way for you to connect with a hardline for just this process ? |
| 11:25 | <Weeper021> | I can |
| 11:26 | <Weeper021> | if thats whats best |
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| 11:26 | <jello> | Weeper021: it's easiest... otherwise the answer depends if you're running nm, wicd, or something else |
| 11:27 | <Weeper021> | ok I will go and connect by wire, 1 moment please |
| 11:27 | <Nik05> | hey guys |
| 11:27 | <Nik05> | I just used man and I got an error what to do? |
| 11:27 | <Nik05> | can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct |
| 11:27 | <jello> | !greet Nik05 |
| 11:27 | <dpkg> | Salutations, Nik05 |
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| 11:28 | <jello> | Nik05: what do you have in /etc/default/locale ? |
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| 11:28 | <Weeper021> | okk lynx is installing now |
| 11:28 | <Nik05> | $ cat /etc/default/locale |
| 11:28 | <Nik05> | # File generated by update-locale |
| 11:28 | <Nik05> | LANG="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 11:28 | <Nik05> | LANGUAGE="en_US:en" |
| 11:28 | -!- | Nik05 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
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| 11:28 | <jello> | Weeper021: install pastebinit too |
| 11:28 | <Nik05> | oops |
| 11:28 | <Nik05> | :P |
| 11:29 | <Nik05> | i got pastebinit installed :P |
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| 11:29 | <Weeper021> | lynx is now installed I assume I just go cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? and somehow paste that into lynx? |
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| 11:29 | <jello> | Weeper021: use pastebinit -- it's easier |
| 11:30 | <Weeper021> | so i open lynx ? then go to pasteinit |
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| 11:30 | <Weeper021> | but how am i supposed to copy and paste everything into pasebinit_? |
| 11:30 | <Weeper021> | i open the log file with nano and highlight all inside and copy ? |
| 11:31 | <Sicelo> | no. u 'apt-get install pastebinit' |
| 11:31 | <Nik05> | jello http://pastebin.com/p0sum9ZH |
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| 11:31 | <Weeper021> | ok that is installed |
| 11:31 | <Weeper021> | I have not used this before guys and I am still fairly new to linux sorry for any noobness |
| 11:31 | <jello> | Weeper021: pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 11:32 | <Weeper021> | ok thanks :) |
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| 11:32 | <jello> | Nik05: try running `LANG=en_us.UTF-8 man sh` |
| 11:32 | <Nik05> | also get this error with root... "can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct" |
| 11:32 | <Weeper021> | ok done it gives http://pastebin.com/36e03LUe |
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| 11:34 | <Nik05> | jello running it with LANG=en_us..UTF-8 also gives an error |
| 11:34 | <jello> | Weeper021: try it with Xorg.0.log.old |
| 11:34 | <Weeper021> | ok |
| 11:34 | <jello> | Nik05: did you run an update recently that bombed out? |
| 11:34 | <Nik05> | I stalled that system yesterday... |
| 11:34 | <Nik05> | :P |
| 11:35 | <jello> | Nik05: run `dpkg --configure -a` |
| 11:35 | <Weeper021> | here is .old http://pastebin.com/x2fsviM8 |
| 11:35 | <Nik05> | jello that does nothing |
| 11:35 | <Nik05> | and what does it? |
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| 11:35 | <Nik05> | oh running update-locale gives errors too |
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| 11:36 | <jello> | Nik05: yeah, try reinstalling the locales package |
| 11:37 | <Nik05> | http://pastebin.com/prwdW2z1 |
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| 11:37 | <Weeper021> | any idea jello why my open source drivers wont work? |
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| 11:38 | <Nik05> | jello reinstall gives this: http://pastebin.com/eaq0SZgi |
| 11:38 | <jello> | Weeper021: well, you're getting "no screens found" which is not a good sign |
| 11:38 | <jello> | Nik05: okay, now try it |
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| 11:39 | <Nik05> | try what? |
| 11:39 | <jello> | man sh |
| 11:39 | <Weeper021> | right now I have the xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg and xserver-common removed/uninstalled |
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| 11:39 | <Nik05> | still same error |
| 11:39 | <jello> | Nik05: weird |
| 11:39 | <Weeper021> | i hae tried installing them many times now and they never work...want me to reinstall them and give you a new log once installed? |
| 11:39 | <jello> | Nik05: try `dpkg-reconfigure locales` |
| 11:39 | <Nik05> | but read the install message, that got errors too |
| 11:40 | <Weeper021> | or ? |
| 11:41 | <jello> | Weeper021: at this point i don't know |
| 11:41 | <Weeper021> | hmm ok :( |
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| 11:42 | <Nik05> | jello http://pastebin.com/bDJe2dHK |
| 11:42 | <Nik05> | i installed en_GB en_US and nl_NL |
| 11:42 | <Nik05> | including ISO's and UTF-8's |
| 11:42 | <Nik05> | but man sh gives no errors |
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| 11:42 | <Nik05> | but do you know what generates the perl errors? |
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| 11:43 | <themill> | Nik05: I'd say they're now gone |
| 11:43 | <Nik05> | oh ok |
| 11:43 | <Nik05> | thanks |
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| 11:44 | <jello> | Nik05: something got messed up during the locale generation |
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| 11:44 | <jello> | Nik05: you've fixed it now, so you should be alright going forward |
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| 11:44 | <Nik05> | ok but can it give any problem to programs I installed when locales were messed up? |
| 11:44 | <jello> | no |
| 11:45 | <jello> | you should be fine |
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| 11:45 | <Nik05> | ok thanks :) |
| 11:45 | <jello> | np |
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| 11:47 | <Weeper021> | guess I will need to format :/ |
| 11:47 | <Weeper021> | to get a working system again... |
| 11:47 | <Weeper021> | lol |
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| 11:49 | <probiotic> | hi |
| 11:49 | <jello> | !greet probiotic |
| 11:49 | <dpkg> | G'day, probiotic |
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| 11:55 | <lancelot_of> | when resuming from suspend with xscreensaver locking screen, i get from this latter: 'xscreensaver PID: not launching hack (throttled)' and the unlocking takes a lot of time. This seem to not happen when launching xscreensaver to simply lock screen without suspending. Any suggestion?How to fix? |
| 11:55 | <Weeper021> | jello my screen now loads a white blank screen |
| 11:55 | <Weeper021> | with few multicoloured lines going down it |
| 11:56 | <Weeper021> | is this any closer to getting it working ol ? anything you think I can do form here ? |
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| 11:57 | <mizo> | hi |
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| 12:00 | <jello> | Weeper021: nothing i can think of |
| 12:00 | <Weeper021> | ok |
| 12:00 | <jello> | Weeper021: does the log say anything interesting? |
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| 12:01 | <Weeper021> | i dunno I can check but tbh the log means nothing to me :s I am not that expereinced which is why i somehow managed to screw up my driver when trying to install the propriety one lol |
| 12:03 | <Weeper021> | wouldnt mind but I am away from home lol no chance to back up my stuff if i need to forat >.< |
| 12:04 | <Weeper021> | *format |
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| 12:04 | <lancelot_of> | when resuming from suspend with xscreensaver locking screen, i get from this latter: 'xscreensaver PID: not launching hack (throttled)' and the unlocking takes a lot of time. This seem to not happen when launching xscreensaver to simply lock screen without suspending. Any suggestion?How to fix? |
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| 12:16 | <shaun-> | what's the difference with using a player like vlc as opposed to mplayer or Totem ? |
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| 12:17 | <StarmanDX> | VLC comes with its own codecs, I think. |
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| 12:17 | <shaun-> | Ah OK. So if I had mplayer AND vlc I'd end up having, possible, the same codecs more than once? |
| 12:17 | <shaun-> | possibly |
| 12:18 | <shyam> | hello |
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| 12:18 | <shaun-> | shyam: hi |
| 12:18 | <StarmanDX> | Maybe. I'm not too sure myself. |
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| 12:18 | <Weeper> | Hello |
| 12:19 | <Weeper> | I have got my graphics working now :) |
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| 12:19 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: No worries. I'd kind of guessed as much. Based on teh fact it's supposed to "play anything". I don't really like software that comes bundled with things which are supposed to be shared libraries... otherwise you get teh Windows effect |
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| 12:20 | <Weeper> | but I get an error message on log in saying it could not find the optimal configuration file or correct configuration file etc and I am stuck at one resolution, was wondering if anyone could give me a hand with that ? |
| 12:20 | <alyosha> | can someone ban shyam cuz he is trying to send some shit over DCC |
| 12:20 | <shyam> | hello |
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| 12:21 | <shyam> | i m new to linux |
| 12:21 | <shyam> | and i dont knw |
| 12:21 | <StarmanDX> | Are you using an ATI card, Weeper? |
| 12:21 | <shyam> | hw to handle |
| 12:21 | <Weeper> | yeah ATI |
| 12:21 | <shyam> | dats why |
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| 12:21 | <StarmanDX> | There's a command you have to run from the Terminal to create the config file. I'll try to find it... |
| 12:22 | <Weeper> | thanks :D |
| 12:22 | <StarmanDX> | Here's a webpage with a list of them: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian#Generate_a_new_.2Fetc.2FX11.2Fxorg.conf_file |
| 12:22 | <Weeper> | thanks :) I will check it out |
| 12:22 | <StarmanDX> | You're welcome. |
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| 12:23 | <Weeper> | these are for the opensource driver? |
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| 12:24 | <StarmanDX> | Those are for the proprietary driver. |
| 12:24 | <Weeper> | ahh |
| 12:24 | <Weeper> | I am on the opensource |
| 12:24 | <shyam> | can any1 help me???? |
| 12:24 | <Weeper> | I could not get the propriety driver to work thats what caused my problem lol |
| 12:24 | <StarmanDX> | Oh. Sorry. |
| 12:24 | <Weeper> | I could not get 3D acceleration enabled once installed so removed it to go back to opensource with 3D but it screwed the system up lol |
| 12:25 | <Weeper> | any ideas how to get more than one resolution available in the opensource? |
| 12:27 | <StarmanDX> | I've heard you can manually edit the configuration file to farce a new resolution, but that's always seemed risky to me. |
| 12:27 | <StarmanDX> | *to force a |
| 12:27 | <Weeper> | hmm |
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| 12:27 | <Weeper> | damn debian is so much different too ubuntu than i thought it would be xD |
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| 12:27 | <Weeper> | ubuntu my graphics just worked propriety or open source, debian only open source work but i screwed it up by mistake :( |
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| 12:29 | <StarmanDX> | I'm running LMDE myself. It's kind of like a mixture of Ubuntu and Debian. |
| 12:29 | <StarmanDX> | Well, Mint and Debian, but then Mint is based on Ubuntu. |
| 12:30 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: I was going to try out LMDE. Just with there was a Debian rolling. There is 'kinda' but don't know what the progress on it is |
| 12:31 | <themill> | something that's just tracking testing with a bit of extra crap thrown in is hardly a "rolling release" |
| 12:32 | <microbe> | Zeta hi :) |
| 12:32 | <shaun-> | themill: you referring to LMDE? |
| 12:32 | <Zeta> | hello microbe x) |
| 12:32 | <StarmanDX> | Speaking of which, I've been considering installing Debian and removing LMDE. |
| 12:32 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: debian with squeeze-backports is a good mix |
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| 12:34 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: I never tried LMDE. I need stability over features for 99% of my boxes. on my desktops i do have a play from time to time. but even with fedora i was getting frustrated. came back to debian in the end on the client side too. |
| 12:34 | <StarmanDX> | That does sound appealing. |
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| 12:35 | <StarmanDX> | The squeeze backports, not Fedora being frustrating. |
| 12:35 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: squeeze backports is a good half way house |
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| 12:35 | <shaun-> | i think the backports team also listen to backport requests which is nice |
| 12:36 | <StarmanDX> | The thing that's holding me back is that I'm not sure of what LMDE has that Debian doesn't have. |
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| 12:36 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: debian has older packages is more stable since it's better tested.. has a larger package archive and supports LOADS of architectures. |
| 12:37 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: LMDE etc etc are all 'play' distros for playing with teh new stuff. most of the time you only really need one or two up to date packages (if even that) . So hence the backports idea |
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| 12:39 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: to be honest if you want bleeding edge you could just run Sid. taking the right precautions and not using it on a CRITICAL or PRODUCTIOn box you should be fine... u could play with it in a vm for example |
| 12:40 | <StarmanDX> | I'm perfectly fine with Debian stable, I'm just worried LMDE will have a driver or something Debian doesn't have and I'll have to reinstall and reconfigure LMDE because Debian is missing something. |
| 12:40 | <lcb> | Hi. what's the best approach to solve MTA of taking too long on booting the system? |
| 12:41 | <shaun-> | lcb: it takes a long time to start up? you using exim? |
| 12:42 | <lcb> | shaun-, yes |
| 12:42 | <lcb> | reconfigure it? |
| 12:42 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: LMDE and Mint and Ubuntu etc all just install varying degrees of non-free shit for you. if you want flash, java, non-free wifi drivers etc all working out of the box then you can go for them. I heard Ubuntu is the african word for 'debian's too hard' |
| 12:42 | <StarmanDX> | One more question because I have to go soon: should I wait for the next Debian update or install squeeze? |
| 12:43 | <lcb> | shaun-, i see several approaches in doing it, on the net, but.. i'm affraid of breaking something |
| 12:43 | <shaun-> | lcb: shouldn't need to reconfigure it. is your networking working ok? and is tehre anything under /var/log/exim4/* that's useful ? |
| 12:43 | <zynon> | StarmanDX, The machine im on right now had lenny on it, i didnt start it for over a year, and now i just updated to squeeze within just a little bit of time. |
| 12:43 | <shaun-> | lcb: what is it you need the MTA for? just localhost? or to act as an smtp server? and if so, locally or on the 'net ? |
| 12:44 | <lcb> | shaun-, the net is working fine, although i didn't assign a static ip yet. |
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| 12:44 | <StarmanDX> | That "non-free ****" is exactly why I'm afraid of leaving LMDE. If something doesn't work, I don't have enough experience with Linux to fix anything other than a graphics driver. |
| 12:44 | <lcb> | shaun-, yes, for localhost. i know is not recommended to remove exim |
| 12:44 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX, zynon , yes upgrades from one release to another are a snap with Debian. It's fantastic!! though I found an old server the other day running ETCH!!!! |
| 12:45 | <StarmanDX> | Squeeze it is. |
| 12:45 | <shaun-> | lcb: did you set up exim for local delivery only when you installed? |
| 12:45 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: :)) good choice |
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| 12:45 | <zynon> | etch, nice :) |
| 12:45 | <lcb> | shaun-, automatic installation/configuration. no manual config yet and so far i'm not planning in doing so |
| 12:45 | <StarmanDX> | If or when I install Debian, how would I install a wifi driver? |
| 12:46 | <shaun-> | StarmanDX: you'll be able to install whatever you like manually. |
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| 12:46 | <lcb> | shaun-, take your time helping what you were doing, i'll wait. |
| 12:46 | <shaun-> | lcb: ping localhost work ok? also do dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and check the options |
| 12:46 | <lcb> | shaun-, yes |
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| 12:47 | <lcb> | shaun-, i'll reconfigure. 1 sec |
| 12:47 | <shaun-> | i think there's an option, option 1, that's is for local delivery only |
| 12:47 | <lcb> | shaun-, okay :) |
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| 12:47 | <StarmanDX> | shaun-: Okay. I'll start downloading it then. |
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| 12:48 | <StarmanDX> | Thank you and good-bye. |
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| 12:48 | <Zeta> | hello everybody, i created an executable files with nano and the command "chmod +X" for automount my hdd, but nothing happens when i launch the files ... what's happening ? excuse me but i'm a new user on debian |
| 12:48 | <shaun-> | lcb: also make sure your host name is in /etc/hosts otherwise DNS can slow down exim on start |
| 12:48 | <lcb> | shaun-, probably better to configure static ip first. i'll reconfig exim and i'll be back after doing it and a reboot. thanks a lot |
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| 12:49 | <shaun-> | lcb: np. make sure that ping <hostname> works and that that;s what exim is using |
| 12:49 | <lcb> | shaun-, sure. thanks so much |
| 12:49 | <shaun-> | hostname -f, is your friend :) welcome |
| 12:49 | <lcb> | ok :) |
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| 12:50 | <shaun-> | Zeta: nothing happens? not even a message? are you just trying to execute a script? |
| 12:52 | <Zeta> | my shell opens for a second, but disapear |
| 12:52 | <Zeta> | yes i just trying to execute a script |
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| 12:53 | <shaun-> | Zeta: how are you trying to execute the script? ./myscript ? |
| 12:53 | <microbe> | shaun- i think she maked a launcher in her desktop |
| 12:54 | <cirzgamanti> | i'm trying to check a reiserfs disk (1.5Terabyte), and it seems to need to rebuild the tree. judging from the progress, this will take roughly a month or so :P is there a way to just remove the failed dir/files? this is a backup disk, and I could restore them from the other one. |
| 12:54 | <shaun-> | ah. well I aint so good at stuff involving X. no idea :) |
| 12:54 | <cirzgamanti> | the issue is that there are some destroyed intries (with permissions etc. showing only "???" in "ls") |
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| 12:56 | <microbe> | shaun- sorry, my bad ... just one question, is it possible to make a executable script that runs with root acces ? |
| 12:56 | <shaun-> | microbe: it is. but it's a very bad idea |
| 12:57 | <shaun-> | usually there's a better way of solving what you're trying to do |
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| 12:57 | <microbe> | okay, thanks, do you know something about automount portable ntfs disk ? |
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| 12:57 | <microbe> | on a debian ? |
| 12:57 | <sn> | exit |
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| 12:58 | <shaun-> | microbe: not really. that probably involves some usb hotplugging type stuff? i usually just mount stuff manually. |
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| 12:59 | <microbe> | ok thanks shaun- :) |
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| 13:01 | <shaun-> | right. time for me to go and buy some b33r! later all |
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| 13:16 | <stoian> | hi |
| 13:16 | <stoian> | i have debian 6.0.3 |
| 13:16 | <stoian> | what virtual machine can i install (if it is possible under synaptic) |
| 13:17 | <stoian> | and in virtual machine to use windows xp? :) |
| 13:17 | <shepherd> | stoian: VirtualBox is very good. |
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| 13:19 | <stoian> | thanks |
| 13:19 | <stoian> | VirtualBox-ose? |
| 13:19 | <shepherd> | I use the latest one from www.virtualbox.org plus the USB enhancement pack. I've used it on Debian to run VMs for all sorts of other OSes. |
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| 13:21 | <stoian> | isn`t synaptic good idea for installing soft? |
| 13:22 | <weasel> | kvm doesn't require any out-of-tree modules |
| 13:22 | <weasel> | together with libvirt and virt-manage it's almost as easy, and the no-weird-modules thing is the huge reason I prefer it |
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| 13:23 | <stoian> | thanks |
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| 13:23 | <stoian> | i`ll test this 2 vm and see which is easier for me :) |
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| 13:27 | <babilen> | !tell stoian -about kvm |
| 13:27 | <babilen> | !tell stoian -about virtualbox |
| 13:27 | <babilen> | stoian: Those two facxtoids should give you something to read :) Enjoy! |
| 13:27 | <babilen> | factoids even |
| 13:28 | <Steap> | Hello ! I'm running Sid and I've just upgraded to Iceweasel 10.0.2. Iceweasel cannot play sound (like in HTML5 videos) if another application is playing sound at the same time. At first, I thought it was a problem with Pulseaduio/Alsa, but many applications (VLC, Totem, Rhythmbox...) can play sound at the same time. Does anybody have the same problem ? |
| 13:28 | <stoian> | thank you. i`ll read it :) |
| 13:30 | <ayaka> | Steap do you have pulse or jack |
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| 13:33 | <Steap> | ayaka: I think I run pulseaudio, since it appears in ps x | grep pulseaudio |
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| 13:36 | <ayaka> | do you set their output to pulse |
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| 13:38 | <Steap> | ayaka: I honestly have no idea, how do I know that ? |
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| 13:40 | <ayaka> | i have no idea about html5,but you can config vlc to do that |
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| 13:42 | <HAL> | is there a way to somehow undervolt gpu ?? |
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| 13:42 | <anon> | unplug it |
| 13:43 | <HAL> | other than that. |
| 13:43 | <HAL> | the eeprom is corrupt... |
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| 13:44 | <HAL> | and the gpu is running really really hot.. |
| 13:44 | <HAL> | tried flashing it.... but, failed because of the corrupt eeprom. |
| 13:44 | <HAL> | :[ |
| 13:44 | <anon> | put your computer in a fridge |
| 13:44 | <Steap> | ayaka: oh right, I see how it is done in VLC |
| 13:44 | <HAL> | hahaha... |
| 13:44 | <HAL> | very funny. |
| 13:44 | <Steap> | cant find that in Iceweasel though |
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| 13:45 | <Steap> | it's weird because it used to work with a previous version of Iceweasel (probably 9.x) |
| 13:45 | <anon> | try to change voltage in BIOS |
| 13:45 | <anon> | it should help |
| 13:45 | <HAL> | that is what i am not able to do.. I used nvflash for flashing.. it either says the eeprom is corrupt or not supported. |
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| 13:46 | <ayaka> | it seem gnome's removing usb device safetly can work with flash device which has two partations,always fail |
| 13:47 | <HAL> | This question probably doesn't belong here.. :P |
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| 13:48 | <HAL> | thanks.bye. |
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| 13:51 | <scientes> | is fennec packaged in debian (but under a differn't name?) |
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| 14:04 | <franco> | Franco |
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| 14:24 | <zaira> | hola |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | j |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | kjnckinloigdoxcnjmnioxbiocbc |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | bdcodbcjkxbz |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | csbjubxzjbcidu |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | çbcjukizxcbzxbcxjkbcxuibsd |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | çc uizb icubz jui bbzduj |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | dabcuosa+cbsuacs+sbcus+s |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | ascbuascbscusabzjsubca |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | bscucs u udb uadbuiab i diiubcuibsa |
| 14:25 | <zaira> | bucas+csbuabcbubb |
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| 14:26 | <zaira> | basicbuaca ui ubaicab i uibs9obnui b9oasb i bijuka xbiobs cikas ubuibs siubsui bisbiusisos9chiocni ob 89 bd8hdcia bui9 8bdj uibduid buids bui d8e9whned b89wehj b8b 8923hb32jb u78bweicb 78bwe 8 b dnj7u8dg8 bdw |
| 14:26 | <retro|blah> | !ops zaira flooding |
| 14:26 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: retro|blah complains about: zaira flooding |
| 14:26 | <zaira> | fghjcmdn buubncmdjfhvb cdiufhgvb idufyhvb kdiufhbv kirufhv bkciufvhb ckdoifuhvb cnkoiufhvb bjieufhvbcnjkdiodufhvb ncjdiduhb vvvvvv bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb jd jjddj d |
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| 14:32 | <Sicelo> | :/ |
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| 15:57 | <vakxden> | /var/cache/apt/archives/libwmf0.2-7_0.2.8.4-10_amd64.deb |
| 15:57 | <vakxden> | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 15:57 | <vakxden> | :( |
| 15:57 | <vakxden> | update squeze to wheezy |
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| 16:02 | <jkyle> | heya |
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| 16:16 | <jello> | vakxden: is that a question? |
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| 16:26 | <vakxden> | to jello: yes, but not actually |
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| 16:27 | <jello> | what does that mean? |
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| 16:33 | <philipp> | anyone here knowing a useful twitter client for debian stable? |
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| 16:38 | <acx0> | is it recommended to use unstable if you're planning on contributing to debian packages? |
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| 16:39 | <babilen> | acx0: no, you can use, for example, cowbuilder to build your packages in a sid chroot |
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| 16:40 | <babilen> | acx0: As to the question if it is recommended: No idea, I use it, but you don't have to. Just use whatever suits your needs and whatever you feel most comfortable with. |
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| 16:42 | <acx0> | babilen, I see |
| 16:43 | <acx0> | babilen, have you ever experienced any problems after updating? I've been using testing for about a year now and I've never encountered a single problem and was thinking of switching to unstable |
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| 17:01 | <peloquin_alexandre> | poulet |
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| 17:38 | <jello> | i'm trying to download a debian dvd via torrent, but the download doesn't seem to start, any ideas? |
| 17:38 | <scientes> | jello, just use the non-torrent version or use jigdo |
| 17:39 | <scientes> | jigdo is actually the fastest way to download debian, esp. if you use apt-cacher-ng |
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| 17:39 | <jello> | ok, but i'm still curious why it doesn't work... |
| 17:39 | <scientes> | well it should |
| 17:39 | <jello> | i'm using transmission-gtk |
| 17:40 | <jello> | when i click "test port" in prefs it says that the port is open |
| 17:40 | <jello> | oh well |
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| 17:44 | * | gdb <3 jigdo |
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| 17:50 | <chealer> | jello: there are probably no uploaders |
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| 18:00 | <Hermann> | Hello |
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| 18:12 | <s_i_m> | Hermann, hi |
| 18:13 | <Hermann> | Hi s_i_m nice to meet you |
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| 18:14 | <Hermann> | so s_i_m are you a linux expert? (lol) |
| 18:15 | <s_i_m> | Hermann, if you wanted to ask something Debian-related, just ask, someone will answer |
| 18:15 | <ompaul> | Hermann: so one persons expert is another's beginner |
| 18:15 | <Hermann> | tnks s_i_m my query is beginner question on bash scripting so not sure if this is the appropriate channel |
| 18:16 | <Hermann> | ompaul lol true |
| 18:16 | <Hermann> | nice to meet you ompaul as well |
| 18:17 | <ompaul> | Hermann: there are bash channels in oftc and freenode, the freenode one is more active |
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| 18:17 | <Hermann> | ompaul ok tnks I will try that |
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| 18:51 | <peterlowrie> | i've never used this before. what am i doing? |
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| 18:51 | <peterlowrie> | aha. it works, im peter |
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| 18:53 | <peterlowrie> | would som1 plz spk 2 me!!!!!!! |
| 18:54 | <s_i_m> | we do not understand your language |
| 18:54 | <peterlowrie> | or is this to be an exercise in soliliquy |
| 18:54 | <peterlowrie> | soliliquy is speaking to yourself |
| 18:55 | <peterlowrie> | do u understand english |
| 18:55 | <s_i_m> | sure |
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| 18:57 | <peterlowrie> | im running a sun sprac ultra45 with lenny onboard. X11 is giving me grief |
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| 18:58 | <peterlowrie> | duz any1 know tools in debian (like in mandriva's *drak) for settings in debian |
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| 19:00 | <engla> | your orthography is giving me grief. Btw, please explain what mandriva drak does, otherwise we won't know |
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| 19:00 | <peterlowrie> | mandiva is a linux distro and its tool names end in drak |
| 19:00 | <robertf> | Hello |
| 19:00 | <cthuluh> | if I ran an ultrasparc I wouldn't care about X |
| 19:01 | <robertf> | I'm using Lynx / Debian Squeeze. I can't go to m.facebook.com and you? |
| 19:01 | <peterlowrie> | like, for eg: userdrak diskdrak drakguard etc etc |
| 19:01 | <engla> | peterlowrie: tools for settings in debian, in general? Well there are hundreds. dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 19:02 | <peterlowrie> | what would you replace X with for your ultrasparc - if you had one? |
| 19:03 | <peterlowrie> | okidoke. what about settings for display resolution |
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| 19:06 | <s_i_m> | robertf, I can confirm that that page opens in elinks, but not in lynx or w3m |
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| 19:08 | <robertf> | s_i_m: thank you. |
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| 19:38 | <josephseraos> | hey, who could tel me where I could ask anything about python and/or gtk and/or pygtk and/or opencv |
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| 19:47 | <Hermann> | josephseraos I just spotted a channel called #python on this server so maybe try /join #python. I just a newbie here |
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| 19:48 | <josephseraos> | Hermann, Thank you. I entered in this channel and I'm waiting they response to me |
| 19:50 | <Hermann> | josephseraaos you welcome, I justa newbie but my xchat got quite good channel list topic search |
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| 19:52 | <Hermann> | not too much on gtk on this server I think... |
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| 19:54 | <Hermann> | nothig came back for pygtk or opencv on OFTC server according to my chat list |
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| 19:55 | <blueunix> | hello |
| 19:55 | <blueunix> | What is the command to list startup scripts? |
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| 19:57 | <blueunix> | There are some scripts i'd like to remove via the update-rc.d command, but I would like to know what is listed to automatically start |
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| 19:58 | <Hermann> | blueunix I just a newbie so I cant help but I would also like to know as my linux taking so long to load up :) |
| 19:59 | <blueunix> | Hermann - that's ok. The script to remove a startup script is "sudo update-rc.d -f "service" remove" |
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| 20:00 | <blueunix> | and the script to add a startup script is "sudo update-rc.d -f "service" defaults" |
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| 20:01 | <Hermann> | blueunix tnks that may help me in future to tame my particular linux distro |
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| 20:01 | <blueunix> | Hermann you know you can go into System->Preferences->Startup Applications and uncheck ones you don't need like Bluetooth or File sharing |
| 20:01 | <blueunix> | That might help |
| 20:02 | <Hermann> | blueunix tnks, would that work for ubuntu? |
| 20:02 | <blueunix> | yeah it should |
| 20:03 | <Hermann> | ok tnks for that so presumably i could remaster ubuntu after having done that |
| 20:03 | <Hermann> | I have seen article on internet on making ubuntu boot quicker |
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| 20:03 | <blueunix> | yeah that should help it boot faster |
| 20:04 | <Hermann> | I think someone got ubuntu to boot in 10 seconds |
| 20:04 | <blueunix> | just be sure not to remove anything like GDM3... You'll remove your GUI |
| 20:04 | <blueunix> | it'll boot into command line |
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| 20:05 | <Hermann> | lol yeah I need X its just a pity some linuxes getting a bit unwieldy but maybe good reason |
| 20:05 | <a11> | i dont no |
| 20:05 | <Hermann> | Hello all - you not alone in not knowing :) |
| 20:06 | <amphi> | Hermann: you don't need to use gnome or gdm to use X, though - just FYI |
| 20:06 | <blueunix> | Also what AMD APP SDK version is wheezy's amd-libopencl1 package??? Is it SDK v2.3? |
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| 20:07 | <Hermann> | amphi tnks yeah maybe I can 'startx' or similar but would want to make sure that bundled applications can be invoked |
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| 20:09 | <Hermann> | amphi so can i interrupt long-winded boot get to a command line and just start X and if I knew the appplication command line invoke it from terminal? |
| 20:10 | <blueunix> | If anyone finds out the SDK version of amd-libopencl1 they should add it to the debian wiki entry titled ATIStream - http://wiki.debian.org/ATIStream |
| 20:10 | <amphi> | Hermann: not sure what you mean; without gdm or similar, you'll get a text login |
| 20:10 | <ping> | Hi,I have little problem with my laptop.Double click used to be work on my previous windows xp,but not work after i install debian squeeze,which driver do i need to install?thanks... |
| 20:11 | <amphi> | Hermann: not using gnome will be quicker to start, and use less ram - for me, boot time isn't an issue |
| 20:11 | <blueunix> | ping - Double click should still work go to - System->Preferences->Mouse |
| 20:11 | <Hermann> | amphi but can I then invoke x directly? |
| 20:11 | <blueunix> | ping - see the lightbulb? try to double click it |
| 20:11 | <amphi> | yes, with startx - but that buys you nothing if that just loads gnome ;) |
| 20:12 | <ping> | blueunix: thank you very much... |
| 20:12 | <blueunix> | ping is it working now? |
| 20:12 | <amphi> | Hermann: you can use a lighter DE (like lxde or xfce), or a stanalone window manager |
| 20:12 | <ping> | blueunix: i feel cool to debian.. |
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| 20:13 | <Hermann> | ok my xubuntu is already using xfce but taking 3 mins to boot from live from cd, just wondering if I can intervene to mjake it boot quicker? |
| 20:13 | <blueunix> | ping - if your moving from windows xp you may want to look at WINE... it allows you to run your old windows applications under linux |
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| 20:15 | <ping> | blueunix:thank you , i do not want win any more.debian feels pretty good.. |
| 20:16 | <blueunix> | ping - you're welcome |
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| 20:18 | <mc74x> | hola una ayuda con vmware |
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| 20:21 | <Hermann> | blueunix and amphi tnks for advice, this old man has got to go to bed now, best wishes |
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| 20:22 | <mc74x> | oie alguien de aqui me puede ayudar |
| 20:22 | <amphi> | !es |
| 20:22 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 20:22 | <mc74x> | gracie |
| 20:22 | <blueunix> | mc74x: Tu Hablas Ingles? |
| 20:22 | <mc74x> | poco |
| 20:22 | <amphi> | de nada |
| 20:22 | <blueunix> | lol muy bien |
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| 20:22 | <mc74x> | pero tengo el drama de cambiarf a linux |
| 20:23 | <blueunix> | Yo hablo espanol un poco... |
| 20:23 | <mc74x> | ok |
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| 20:23 | <mc74x> | me cambie de windos a debian linux |
| 20:23 | <amphi> | 'el drama', jeje |
| 20:23 | <mc74x> | seee |
| 20:23 | <amphi> | mc74x: debian is installed? |
| 20:23 | <mc74x> | si |
| 20:23 | <mc74x> | yes |
| 20:23 | <blueunix> | Aren't all startup scripts listed in /etc/init.d ????? |
| 20:24 | <mc74x> | change of windows to debian linux |
| 20:24 | <amphi> | mc74x: what is the problem? |
| 20:24 | <mc74x> | vmware |
| 20:24 | <amphi> | I know nothing of vmare |
| 20:25 | <amphi> | er, vmware |
| 20:25 | <blueunix> | mc74x could use virtualbox |
| 20:25 | <mc74x> | ok |
| 20:26 | <mc74x> | yo quiero probar es vmware |
| 20:26 | <blueunix> | virtualbox is muy bien |
| 20:26 | <blueunix> | edit: es* |
| 20:26 | <mc74x> | The VMware Remote Console Plug-in is not installed or could not be found. |
| 20:27 | <blueunix> | hmm..... |
| 20:27 | <mc74x> | plugins |
| 20:27 | <mc74x> | not compatible wicth iceweael 10.0 |
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| 20:29 | <mc74x> | friend sabes desintalo vmware |
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| 20:29 | <zzoneblack> | hello |
| 20:30 | <zzoneblack> | c..............dddddoioieie9 |
| 20:30 | <mc74x> | say remote console not compatible with icewasel 10.0 |
| 20:30 | <mc74x> | ni opera |
| 20:30 | <zzoneblack> | eiiiiii |
| 20:30 | <mc74x> | ni cromiun |
| 20:30 | <blueunix> | vmware es no debian paquete |
| 20:30 | <zzoneblack> | comen men |
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| 20:30 | <mc74x> | umm |
| 20:31 | <mc74x> | kill vmware |
| 20:31 | <mc74x> | install virtual-box |
| 20:31 | <mc74x> | best |
| 20:31 | <mc74x> | i'm chile |
| 20:31 | <blueunix> | yo utilizo virtual box |
| 20:32 | <blueunix> | me gusta |
| 20:32 | <mc74x> | uninstall vmware install virtual box |
| 20:32 | <mc74x> | asi se dice en ingles |
| 20:32 | <blueunix> | aqui esta el comando "apt-get install virtualbox" |
| 20:32 | <a11> | ciao |
| 20:32 | <mc74x> | ok |
| 20:34 | <blueunix> | si, desinstalar vmware |
| 20:34 | <a11> | !list |
| 20:34 | <dpkg> | a11: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 20:34 | <a11> | tanks |
| 20:36 | <mc74x> | is my first time installing linux debian linux for a party in my country at the end of the world chile south america. and let s using Winows not speak much English if they apologize |
| 20:36 | <mc74x> | I have two days to dominate debian 6.0, in the end I will learn to use debian if I do not win the terminal |
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| 20:38 | <blueunix> | mc74x: good luck :) |
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| 20:41 | <Timphan> | blueunix: hi |
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| 20:41 | <amphi> | mc74x: http://www.debian.org/doc/index.es.html |
| 20:41 | <mc74x> | gracias |
| 20:44 | <ayaka> | how remove a usb disk safety？ |
| 20:45 | <blueunix> | ayaka: Right click the icon and click "Safely Remove Drive" |
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| 20:47 | <a11> | !list |
| 20:47 | <dpkg> | VATTENE VIA! |
| 20:47 | <a11> | dici a me??? |
| 20:48 | <a11> | ho provato a contattare il sito che tu mi hai indicato... ma nulla!!! |
| 20:49 | <blueunix> | Is there a debian Italian channel? |
| 20:50 | <mc74x> | ok thank you very much, I will uninstall and install vmware virtrual-box, you know I'm new to debian and all my family uses debian 6.0 and I know to be answered for children, adults, siblings, aunts. all, let windows by debian ok |
| 20:50 | <mc74x> | and using google-translator to write in English you know do not speak sidioma |
| 20:50 | <mc74x> | but thank you very much from chile peace, respect and revolution .... |
| 20:50 | <mc74x> | seeketh documentation in Spanish |
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| 20:52 | <mc74> | gracias hasta la vista |
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| 20:54 | <a11> | per ora grazie e buon proseguimento a tutti |
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| 20:55 | <CryptKpr> | Anyone have a moment to help me with a grub issue? |
| 20:55 | <blueunix> | a11: /join #debian-it |
| 20:56 | <a11> | see you, tank's |
| 20:56 | <blueunix> | cryptkpr: what's the issue |
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| 20:57 | <CryptKpr> | Just swapped a motherboard in one of my systems and grub is hanging at "grub Loading" - I have booted off a live cd and chrooted and reinstalled grub but no luck same issue |
| 20:57 | <blueunix> | well you did everything I would have done... |
| 20:58 | <blueunix> | what version of grub? 2? |
| 20:58 | <blueunix> | is this squeeze? |
| 20:58 | <CryptKpr> | I am having a hard time identifying it actually its whatever is default with squeeze |
| 20:58 | <blueunix> | ok if it's squeeze it's grub 2 |
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| 20:59 | <blueunix> | when you booted off the live cd did you mount /proc, /sys, /dev stuff? |
| 20:59 | <blueunix> | before you chrooted in? |
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| 21:00 | <CryptKpr> | yep mount -t proc none /mnt/root/proc and mount -o bind /dev /mnt/root/dev |
| 21:01 | <blueunix> | what about /sys? |
| 21:02 | <CryptKpr> | no - wasn't aware I needed to do anything w/ /sys the only seperate partition I have is boot which was mounted appropiately before chrooting |
| 21:03 | <blueunix> | no it's not |
| 21:03 | <blueunix> | boot's not mounted that's probably the issue |
| 21:03 | <blueunix> | here issue this mount commands before you chroot in |
| 21:03 | <blueunix> | make a temp directory to mount your root -> sudo mkdir temp_comp |
| 21:04 | <blueunix> | mount root -> sudo mount /dev/sda2 temp_comp |
| 21:04 | <blueunix> | mount boot -> sudo mount /dev/sda1 temp_comp/boot |
| 21:04 | <blueunix> | boot's got to be mounted into the root folder |
| 21:05 | <blueunix> | mount dev -> sudo mount -o bind /dev temp_comp/dev |
| 21:05 | <ayaka> | blueunix, that what cause problem,it csn't work with flash device with 2partations |
| 21:05 | <CryptKpr> | I mounted boot as you said on /mnt/root/boot |
| 21:05 | <blueunix> | mount sys -> sudo mount -t sysfs sysfs temp_comp/sys |
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| 21:06 | <CryptKpr> | thats what I meant when I said boot was mounted apporpriately |
| 21:06 | <blueunix> | mount proc -> sudo mount -t proc proc temp_comp/proc |
| 21:06 | <CryptKpr> | the only thing I didnt do was the sys mount |
| 21:07 | <blueunix> | cryptkpr: oh ok.... well maybe it was because of not mounting sys.... plus your mounting command for proc was... |
| 21:07 | <blueunix> | mount -t proc none /mnt/root/proc and not mount -t proc proc /mnt/root/proc |
| 21:07 | <CryptKpr> | Ok I can add the sys mount and adjust the proc mount |
| 21:08 | <blueunix> | did you install the mbr to /dev/sda and not /dev/sda1 or sda2 |
| 21:08 | <blueunix> | ayaka: give me a second |
| 21:08 | <CryptKpr> | yep did grub-install /dev/sda |
| 21:09 | <blueunix> | hmm |
| 21:09 | <blueunix> | did you update the initramfs? |
| 21:09 | <blueunix> | sudo update-initramfs -u |
| 21:09 | <ayaka> | blueunix thank you,in fact it can't work with mp4 player which has its space and sdcard |
| 21:10 | <CryptKpr> | btw I am working with raid I started this all w/ mdadm-startall then mount /dev/md1 /mnt/root and mount /dev/md0 /mnt/root/boot - and no I didn't update initramfs |
| 21:10 | <blueunix> | are you using lvm2? |
| 21:11 | <CryptKpr> | no lvm |
| 21:11 | <blueunix> | i don't know much about raid |
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| 21:11 | <CryptKpr> | just raid 1 formated w/ ext4 |
| 21:11 | <blueunix> | ok well I'd do this... mount sys this time and alter the proc mount command |
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| 21:12 | <CryptKpr> | and I will update initram as well |
| 21:12 | <blueunix> | then reinstall grub package |
| 21:12 | <blueunix> | then update grub -> sudo update-grub |
| 21:12 | <ayaka> | CryptKpr in my memories it's soft raid |
| 21:12 | <CryptKpr> | Yes it is softraid |
| 21:12 | <blueunix> | wait no.... reinstall grub package.... then install grub to /dev/sda again |
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| 21:13 | <blueunix> | sudo grub-install /dev/sda |
| 21:13 | <blueunix> | then update grub -> sudo update-grub (this is probably repetitive) |
| 21:14 | <blueunix> | then update initramfs -> sudo update-initramfs -u |
| 21:14 | <blueunix> | if that doesn't work... I don't know what to do... you could always backup and reinstall |
| 21:14 | <blueunix> | ayaka: so what's your issue? |
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| 21:15 | <CryptKpr> | I will try this if it doesn't work I have already cp -Rpv my root filesystem to another drive so that I can reinstall and try overwriting the new install w/ my old one |
| 21:15 | <blueunix> | ayaka: you have a mp4 player with internal storage and a sdcard and you want to mount or unmount both? |
| 21:16 | <blueunix> | yeah I'd probably just reinstall myself... I know its a pain... good luck |
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| 21:18 | <CryptKpr> | Well im off to give it a shot - Ill let you know how it goes.... |
| 21:18 | <ayaka> | blueunix,maybe yes,but in fact them will both mount auto,but safetly remove can't work ,and another sutuation is i have a sdcard with two 2 partations |
| 21:18 | <blueunix> | ok |
| 21:18 | <ayaka> | CryptKpr i know a little may help you |
| 21:19 | <blueunix> | ayaka: ok well for the mp4 player you can unmount it by searching for the device listed in /media |
| 21:19 | <blueunix> | ls /media |
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| 21:19 | <ayaka> | blueunix i know unmount ,but is it safe？ |
| 21:19 | <blueunix> | find the device... then issue command sudo umount /media/"device" - that will unmount the mp4 player |
| 21:19 | <blueunix> | yes, I use it all the time |
| 21:20 | <shachaf> | Apparently the package libgmp3c2 (<http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libgmp3c2>) exists for Squeeze and Sid but not for Wheezy. That seems a bit odd -- am I misunderstanding something? |
| 21:20 | <shachaf> | (I'm trying to install a binary that depends on libgmp.so.3.) |
| 21:21 | <ayaka> | usb always has buffer problem |
| 21:21 | <blueunix> | ayaka: I think the command will allow the buffer to finish writing, but I'm not sure |
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| 21:22 | <ayaka> | blueunix,when copy something i will every fast,then like pausing by copying in gnome |
| 21:22 | <blueunix> | ayaka: sorry I don't understand |
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| 21:22 | <ayaka> | blueunix or there is a way disable buffer |
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| 21:23 | <blueunix> | I don't think so |
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| 21:25 | <ayaka> | blueunix,when you copy something big in gnome to usb device,it will very fast at beginning,then like pause which i think it's flushing,it can't tell you true remained time |
| 21:25 | <engla> | ayaka: you can mount it with the "sync" option |
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| 21:26 | <ayaka> | engla mount -o sync？ |
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| 21:27 | <engla> | yes basically. There are some downsides (more write operations) |
| 21:28 | <engla> | it's not a very great idea, but you'll see how it changes behavior |
| 21:28 | <ayaka> | -o rw,sync？ |
| 21:29 | <engla> | ayaka: mount -o remount,sync /media/currentnameofdisk |
| 21:29 | <engla> | if it's already mounted |
| 21:29 | <ayaka> | thank you |
| 21:30 | <ayaka> | but the gnome's saftely remove drive is really a bug |
| 21:31 | <engla> | why |
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| 21:35 | <ayaka> | engla it can't work in some situation |
| 21:37 | <CryptKpr> | Blueunix - No luck - I guess I am on to reinstall and then try to overwrite my root partition w/ my backup - minus /etc/grub /boot and a few other key areas that is |
| 21:37 | <blueunix> | CryptKpr - ugh... well It was worth a shot |
| 21:37 | <s_i_m> | ayaka, what problem precisely do you have with usb drives in gnome? |
| 21:39 | <ayaka> | yes as i had said above,as i can't copy it to you in mobile,would minding find it youself |
| 21:40 | <s_i_m> | well, i would not mind looking for it, but I am sorry I do not understand your english |
| 21:41 | <s_i_m> | probably, you should look for help in a chat room in your native language |
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| 21:42 | <ayaka> | s_i_m i'm sorry,but do you know chinese will use linux while m$ is $1 |
| 21:45 | <ayaka> | i will resay it ,safety remove can't work in some situations,a device has an internal sorage and a sdcard,another in a sdcard with 2 partitations |
| 21:46 | <s_i_m> | if you do a manual 'umount' it is safe |
| 21:46 | <ayaka> | s_i_m thank you,but also wish it will work |
| 21:47 | <s_i_m> | but i did not have problems with gnome's automount so far too. |
| 21:48 | <ayaka> | s_i_m because you have that kind of devices |
| 21:48 | <ayaka> | don't have |
| 21:48 | <engla> | on newer kernels there are a lot of kernel oopses in sd_revalidate_disk when removing disks .. only when udisks is involved IIUC. |
| 21:49 | <ayaka> | engla 3.2.1？ |
| 21:50 | <engla> | ooh nice regoogled and it seems a patch may have appeared 3 days ago. Pretty frustrating as it's a null pointer deref that's easy to spot but they didn't know the real fix |
| 21:50 | <engla> | ayaka: 3.2.0 and 3.2.4 at least. it's a common problem. |
| 21:51 | <s_i_m> | engla, I have experienced that when removing still *mounted* usb hdd on 2.6.32, but not anymore on wheezy |
| 21:51 | <engla> | ok. this has happened to me after clean unmounts but on much newer kernels |
| 21:51 | <engla> | this is basically it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754518 |
| 21:52 | <ayaka> | engla but i meet in from ubuntu8 to debian squeeze and squeeze in kernel 3.2.1 |
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| 21:57 | <ayaka> | thank you |
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| 22:30 | <hoshi411> | isn't there a way to kill my android window session and run xorg instead running debian gnome or something? |
| 22:31 | <hoshi411> | since android is running on a linux kernel under some java like whatever |
| 22:31 | <hoshi411> | can't I just kill the apk session |
| 22:31 | <hoshi411> | and keep the kernel running |
| 22:31 | <hoshi411> | and then just choose to run gnome session? |
| 22:31 | <hoshi411> | without dual booting and all that |
| 22:31 | <hoshi411> | and formatting etc. |
| 22:32 | <hoshi411> | I don't see why no one has gone that rout yet |
| 22:32 | <hoshi411> | a script could be made even to kill the apk session and startup gnome-shell |
| 22:33 | <hoshi411> | under xwindows |
| 22:33 | <hoshi411> | gnome-session could then load under a debian directory |
| 22:33 | <hoshi411> | there is chroot with debian on it now but .... that can only run under a vnc server |
| 22:34 | <hoshi411> | but that makes no sense because all you need to do is kill the apk session and forget a vnc server |
| 22:34 | <hoshi411> | just run it on xwindows |
| 22:34 | <hoshi411> | has no one tried this? |
| 22:34 | <hoshi411> | I really want to get debian booting without vnc on my tablet |
| 22:35 | <hoshi411> | there might be a better channel to go to for this though but |
| 22:36 | <hoshi411> | this channel is probly best suited to understand how I would kill the android apk that is hogging the monitor and get xorg to take over with a gnome-shell session |
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| 22:48 | <redwin> | есть кто живои? |
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| 22:51 | <kop> | !ru |
| 22:51 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 22:53 | <hoshi411> | running startx --:1 in a chroot debian environment gives me this error: cannot open /dev/tty0 |
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| 22:53 | <hoshi411> | the /dev folder exists but tty0 does not |
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| 22:54 | <hoshi411> | there is however ttyS0 and tty and nvhost-display which look interesting |
| 22:54 | <hoshi411> | is it possible that I simply need to change a config file to use a different file other than tty0? |
| 22:55 | <hoshi411> | and I would be starting an x environment right on my android tablet? |
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| 23:18 | <sagaci> | so how does one install debian on a machine with no internet, but have it still install apt and networkmanager? |
| 23:19 | <engla> | sagaci: there are install isos for cds or dvds |
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| 23:20 | <sagaci> | yeah, I'm just using amd64-CD1 |
| 23:21 | <engla> | so you'll have to make sure all the packages you want are on the first cd. if not, get the next too |
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| 23:24 | <engla> | network-manager is on the first dvd |
| 23:24 | <engla> | and fourth cd of squeeze amd65 |
| 23:25 | <engla> | *4 |
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| 23:27 | <mauricio> | oi |
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| 23:30 | <sagaci> | engla: thanks, I just found a spare DVD so I'll try installing via that |
| 23:31 | <mauricio> | from brazil |
| 23:31 | <engla> | sagaci: you can also use a usb stick or removable usb media with these isos |
| 23:32 | <engla> | sagaci: ok, that depends a bit on your computer but it should be possible |
| 23:32 | <sagaci> | engla: yep but unfortunately I only have 2/4GB sticks around |
| 23:33 | <engla> | and the package list is in list-dvd http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/amd64/ |
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| 23:56 | <ayaka> | i can set my mobile into usb ethernet mode,but can i ssh pc by this？ |
| --- | Log | closed Sun Feb 19 00:01:02 2012 |