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00:05<Vyrus001>and for some strange ass reason, this time with the same file and the same command and the same laptop and just doing it all again for the 10th time... everything works perfict... what the hell...
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02:31<rjsalts>so if you've got ipv6 privacy extension addresses set up is there any way that the kernel informs user space when it selects a new address?
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02:37<user>bagdasarov
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02:51<flixh>I'm searching for a simple solution to do configuration management for a few debian testing machines; e.g. add common network mounts to /etc/fstab, setup crontab entries for automatic backups, create a few users and install some ssh-keys. Anybody got a good recommendation for something simple?
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02:54<flixh>I've looked at equivs to create configuration packages, but then adding users or changing fstab are things i need to script myself in postinst. slaughter looked nice, but I can't use http as transport.
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03:11<EmleyMoor>I have an ntfs filesystem I want an ordinary user to be able to mount and umount. It can be done easily as root, and mounted, but not umounted, as an ordinary user. I am also not sure how its presence would be dealt with by, say, tar with the --one-file-system option. Can anyone offer me any guidance on this?
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03:14<jm_>don't have ntfs here to test with, but I could test at home
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03:15<jm_>however I don't see why user/users mount option would not help
03:15<EmleyMoor>Does find's -xdev option always behave the same as tar's --one-file-system?
03:15<EmleyMoor>jm_: I'll try it in a minute and tell you what happens when I umount...
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03:17<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... no longer a problem, it seems
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03:30<EmleyMoor>Is write access to UFS systems possible and safe yet?
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03:31<jm_>probaby is with debian kfreebsd :P
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03:33<EmleyMoor>jm_: Yes - prebably still not so with Linux?
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03:33<EmleyMoor>probably
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03:35<jm_>EmleyMoor: relevant kernel option still has experimental/dangerous text
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03:37<EmleyMoor>Thought so... guess that means using an intermediate step if ever I need to restore anything to a BSD vm
03:38<EmleyMoor>(or perhaps NFS)
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04:10<Timphan>how to use clive format HD ?
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04:12<jm_>Timphan: man page explains it -- man clive, look in section FORMATS
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04:19<Timphan>jm_: l testing
04:19<Timphan>clive -f HD "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLDGA3j-tc&feature=fvwrel"
04:19<Timphan>cannot
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04:51<Guest3498>zdjdgjfgjf
04:51<Praxis>That's what I was going to say
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04:52<Guest3498>i know it
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04:54<Guest3498>auch deutsche mädels hier??
04:54<heikkila>!de
04:54<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
04:54-!-mode/#debian [+o weasel] by ChanServ
04:54<Guest3498>sorry i do this
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04:55<Guest3498>so long
04:55<xayon>!knoppix
04:55<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
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04:55<xayon>In fact, there's a knoppix-de channel Guest3498
04:55-!-mode/#debian [-o weasel] by weasel
04:55<weasel>he was just trolling
04:56<xayon>Oh, =/
04:56<weasel>maybe you could all stop helping/feeding trolls with dpkg?
04:56<xayon>weasel: I tought he might have a real problem with keyboard or something.
04:56<xayon>Uh, now I used google translate for the german that he wrote and I regret it.
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05:08<gui_user>Seems some packages don't have changelog entries or packages.qa.d.o rss feed items for the current version. Is there a way to get info on these versions?
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05:22<antonio>xdcc d 72
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05:23<antonio>buon giorno
05:23<antonio>!list
05:23<dpkg>VATTENE VIA!
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05:26<amitz>how to check opengl compatibility in debian? i forget the package name
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05:28<engla_>amitz: this one? mesa-utils: /usr/bin/glxinfo
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05:40<amitz>engla_: yes, thank you
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05:45<Guest3502>hello, i have installed debian + bumblebee how can I switch to my integrated intel video card ?
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05:52<SynrG>huh, apparently http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee (first i'd heard of it)
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05:55<Iridos>it's ok, not even dpkg has heard about it :)
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06:21<derickx>I've a problem with funambol on my server
06:21<derickx>/opt/Funambol/tools/jre-1.6.0/jre/bin/java: cannot execute binary file
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06:22<derickx>http://fpaste.org/gbz3/
06:22<derickx>any idea if there is something wrong with the permissions?
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06:28<Iridos>so wtf is funambol
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06:29<babilen>"Personal Cloud Solution" -- http://funambol.com/support/
06:29<derickx>right
06:29<Iridos>derickx, file /opt/Funambol/tools/jre-1.6.0/jre/bin/java
06:30*babilen guesses 32bit/64bit weirdness
06:30<Iridos>babilen, I often have my personal cloud solution when smoking
06:31<derickx>http://fpaste.org/QbKX/
06:31<babilen>derickx: But it looks as if funambol provides excellent (paid/free) support -- Have you tried to contact them? I am sure that Debian's java works perfectly and I am not sure what we can do to fix Funambol.
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06:31<babilen>derickx: "dpkg --print-architecture" and "uname -r" too please
06:32<Iridos>then I guess it doesn't find one of the dynamic libraries
06:32<derickx>armel
06:32<Iridos>babilen, 64bit systems should recognize 32-bit elf and execute it, no?
06:32<Iridos>aaah
06:32<Iridos>ok, arm would not
06:33<babilen>armel? heh :)
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06:33<derickx>2.6.32-5-orion5x
06:33<Iridos>that doesn't sound very debian
06:33<babilen>derickx: Well, there you go. orion5x?
06:33<babilen>derickx: Ask Funambol if they provide a version for armel
06:34<derickx>hmm, but I got it working some time back
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06:34<derickx>but after restarting the server I don't know how to start the service again
06:34<derickx>hmm
06:35<Iridos>http://packages.debian.org/de/squeeze/linux-image-2.6.32-5-orion5x
06:35<Iridos>what kind of device _is_ that
06:35<derickx>qnap ts-209 I think
06:36<babilen>derickx: Be that as it may, you still need a version for arm.
06:37<Iridos>oh, something like the xxx-plug, low-power microserver thingy
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06:38<derickx>babilen, ok
06:39<Iridos>I'm a bit astonished there's a special kernel in debian for these things
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07:17<derickx>java-1.6.0-openjdk/ java-6-openjdk/
07:18<derickx>what's the difference
07:19<muhammad-devan>how to upgrade kernel on debian squeeze
07:19<muhammad-devan>??
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07:21<gnugr>muhammad-devan: you must add in sources.list backports http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/
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07:23<muhammad-devan>thanks
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07:24<gnugr>muhammad-devan: then you can run " aptitude -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-xxxx"
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07:50<derickx>export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java/jre
07:50<Timphan>python
07:51<derickx>does that look normal?
07:51<quitte>has anyone here heard of ossi urchs?
07:51<derickx>export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java/jre
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07:54<ayaka>about cross compile kernel , i just use normal gcc can do that?
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07:57<nyov>is there a parallel xz compressor?
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08:05<engla_>isn't there, to be fair, faster compressors? xz is dog slow in compression and four times 2 MB/s still wouldn't be much
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08:06<nyov>that's why I asked for a parallel version :P
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08:06<nyov>like pbzip2
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08:08<engla_>7z can use lzma2 multithreaded. that's still not an xz archive though is it?
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08:08<nyov>hm. might be good enough, i'll check that. thanks
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08:11<nyov>well it seems to be doing xz archives, too. nice
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08:12<shaunlewis>silly question perhaps, but is it worth reporting a bug against the nouveau driver in squeeze which seems to be fixed in the backport version, if I can't find it in debian or the upstream bug tracker? Will it ever get looked at, or is squeeze now done and dusted as far as bug fixes are concerned?
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08:13<ayaka>if i want to cross compile kernel, do i need a special gcc?
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08:14<petemc>ayaka: theres plenty of info online on cross compilation for android
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08:18<ayaka>i won't it in android, whose decompress failed me, i can only do that in cgywin
08:19<ayaka>petemc, cygwin ,i mean
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08:20<ayaka>because guide don't indicate any special
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08:21<ayaka>identicate
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08:23<petemc>ayaka: cygwin isnt supported here
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08:25<ayaka>petemc, i know, but i'm asking simething about cross compile
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08:26<petemc>ayaka: perhaps you want emdebian-tools
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08:26<ayaka>petemc what is it?
08:27<petemc>a package
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08:28<ayaka>petemc , but only debian i can touch is still in chroot without kernel, i can only get ms and that pc don't support boot from usb
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08:29<petemc>thats unfortunate
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08:31<ayaka>something i think i am crazy because sd class 4 is too slow, i think that decopress and compile anything in it is mad
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08:33<ayaka>but we don't have pre build kernel?
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08:57<overrride>holas
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08:57<overrride>Alguien me puede ayudar ya llevo horas con un problema,
08:58<overrride>he descargado firefox y lo instale manualmente en /opt
08:59<overrride>tambien he descargado flash player y el problema es que no me reconoce el plugin
08:59<engla_>overrride: what's wrong with iceweasel from debian? Also see #debian-es for spanish
08:59<overrride>ok
09:00<ayaka>engla_ how do you recgnize his language
09:01<engla_>I understand what overrride is saying but I can't express myself very well in spanish
09:01<engla_>because I took some spanish courses
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09:02<ayaka>engla_ wow, i can speak english well, and only know a few jp, you have learn two lng
09:02<ayaka>can't
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09:02<Iridos>ayaka, we other suckers can only guess with translate.google.com :P
09:03<engla_>I lived in germany too, so that one I'm more than fluent so at least three please
09:03<ayaka>Iridos well, i wonder why others can recognize lng easy, that is
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09:06<emmanuel>Hello everyone ! I've just installed Linux Mint Debian Edition few days ago and I have read that unlikely to Debian root password is not mandatory. Can you explain to me what is root password and how it differ from my session password ?
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09:07<ayaka>!tell emmanuel about root
09:08<emmanuel>ayaka: does it mean that I have a root password ? Because when I want to install something my password is required ?
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09:08<ayaka>!tell emmanuel about sudo
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09:09<babilen>!tell emmanuel -about mint
09:10<emmanuel>babilen: my question is about debian and the phylosphy of root account ;)
09:10<babilen>emmanuel: I have no idea what LMDE is doing and what kind of defaults it uses. Please take this question to their IRC channel as we can and will only support pure Debian in here for a couple of technical and social reasons. Thank you for you understanding and may you have a nice day!
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09:11<emmanuel>babilen: I repeat I'm asking about debian and root ;)
09:11<emmanuel>ayaka: sudo and root are different isn't they ?
09:12<babilen>emmanuel: Ah, ok. Debian typically setups two accounts during the initial installation. That is one root account and another for a user. Both are optional as long as you setup at least one user. So you either end up with a full root account and another (unprivileged) user account, or one user account that can acquire superuser privileges via sudo.
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09:12<babilen>emmanuel: In the first case (root is active) sudo is not installed by default.
09:12<babilen>emmanuel: Are you planning to install and use Debian?
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09:13<emmanuel>For installing debian yeah why not. I'm just affraid the step could be too high !
09:13<emmanuel>So root is better than sudo ?
09:13<emmanuel>More secure or ... ?
09:13<ayaka>emmanuel no, who know
09:14<ayaka>ubuntu said no, debian has two opinons
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09:15<Iridos>the factoids really said it... root is a user account with special powers, sudo is a program that allows you to use all/some of those powers without switching to another account
09:15<babilen>emmanuel: No -- It is a bit more complicated than this. The root user can (per definition) do everything on the system and every user that knows the root password can become root. sudo allows a more fine-grained approach for giving specific users superuser privileges for all or a subset of commands (/msg dpkg sudoers) and also doesn't make it necessary for other users to know the root password.
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09:15<emmanuel>Oh yess. I see it now.
09:16<ayaka>babilen but but i think if yoy know the passwd of sudoer, it is same as root
09:16<emmanuel>With sudo every user is potentially a root !
09:16<Iridos>there's no "better" as such, that's like asking of sports shoes are better than high-heel shoes
09:16<babilen>emmanuel: I would recommend to install Debian and read the Debian reference (/msg dpkg reference) along with some introductory material (/msg dpkg grounding ; /msg dpkg general cli tutorial) -- And please note once again that we are only supporting Debian users in here.
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09:17<ayaka>emmanuel have you seen other distrubutions
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09:17<emmanuel>thanks a lot for your help. I have a much better understanding in root now ;)
09:17<babilen>emmanuel: Another good resource that explains package management on Debian is the free sample chapter on http://debian-handbook.info/liberation/
09:18<babilen>emmanuel: Do you know how to install Debian?
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09:18<emmanuel>ayaka. I have used for 2 years mint, and one week with LMDE. I have used Fedora KDE a little bit
09:18<emmanuel>babilen: thanks
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09:18<ayaka>emmanuel it's stranger that you don't know root
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09:19<emmanuel>yeah I have installed Debian two years ago but it was too difficult to configure and I changed for mint
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09:19<emmanuel>ayaka: only used sudo for now. Didn't see the difference. Now I understand ;)
09:19<ayaka>ok
09:20<emmanuel>Now that I'm better at linux, I will consider to change for Debian ;)
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09:20<emmanuel>Thanks a lot for your help. Have a nice day !
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09:20<babilen>emmanuel: Well, let us know if you run into problems. I would recommend to use the netinstall image (/msg dpkg netinst) or the netinstall image with firmware (/msg dpkg firmware image) if you have a working (wired) network connection during the installation.
09:20<babilen>emmanuel: The installation process is also detailed in the installation guide (/msg dpkg ig)
09:20<emmanuel>thanks babilen
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09:22<ayaka>babilen well i think install from usb is easy, does foreigns like that way, config it is a hard that as i thought, and network is slow here
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09:53<user>I have tried the netinstall CD, CD1, and now DVD1 with two usb DVD burners. I can not get past the Installer boot menu. How do I fix this problem?
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09:54<Guest3520>The first usb dvd burner only made coasters. The second DVD burner made a DVD that appears good -- I can see the files on it -- but still hangs at the menu.
09:54<sml>two questions. non-related. just pondering. is UNIX just a set of standards? and if someone had enough money wouldn't they just pay to get their OS certified (i.e. howcome Redhat haven't done this?). 2) what's the difference between -m state and -m conntrack in iptables. they look the same from the manpage. and goolge just leads to a dead end on a definitive answer.
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09:55<valdyn>sml: why should they do it?
09:55<valdyn>sml: it costs money
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09:55<inquisitive>Is 6.0.4 somehow broken for installation via usb drives?
09:55<valdyn>sml: while in fact rhel is a standard with excellent reputation in itself
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09:56<inquisitive>bizarrely, the netinst on a DVD /did/ work for once. it stopped and asked for another CD, making no sense particularly because it was supposed to install from the net at that point but also because the cd did not exist!
09:56<inquisitive>How do I install 6.0.4 then?
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09:56<babilen>inquisitive: You are trying to install from a USB stick? If so: How do you create the USB stick?
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09:57<inquisitive>On a related note, I am downloading 5.0 from http://archive.multihost.no/lenny/ and will do a dist-upgrade. Can anyone here point me to md5sums for 5.0?
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09:59<babilen>inquisitive: You can find them in the respective directory for your architecture beneath http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.9/ in a file called MD5SUMS or SHA* sums in SHA1SUMS, SHA256SUMS and SHA512SUMS respectively.
09:59<babilen>inquisitive: But why would you want to install lenny?
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10:00<sml>valdyn: just thinking it may cost money but a) they have loads, and b) woudl it not mean something. in terms of compliance and therefore compatibility with other vendors ?
10:00<inquisitive>babilen: because I can't install 6.0.4 as I said above.
10:00<inquisitive>I changed my nick from Guest3520.
10:01<valdyn>sml: nope
10:01<inquisitive>How do I install 6.0.4 ?
10:01<sml>oh and if anyone *does* know what the diff is between -m state and -m conntrack. prey do tell. going insane. not sure which to use?!
10:01<sml>valdyn: ah ok. well just wondering that's all. thanks
10:01*sml doesn't really get what the difference is between UNIX and Linux
10:01<valdyn>sml: I doubt much modern software runs on "unix" at all
10:01<babilen>inquisitive: Please answer my earlier question! (How did you prepare the USB stick?)
10:02<sml>valdyn: so in effect it's an historic term/phrase ?
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10:02<valdyn>sml: unix is just a trademark, linux is a specific implementation of an operating system kernel
10:02<gdb>sml: That's the idea. ;-)
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10:03<valdyn>sml: unix is also an operating system which the bsds are descendents from
10:03<gdb>sml: The main difference is that unlike other Unix operating systems, Linux is a "black box reimplmentation" as opposed to a "genetic unix". BSD, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, et al, all have roots (and code) that goes back through the history of the Unix operating system. Linux is a from-scratch implementation of Unix behavior and contains no actual historic Unix code.
10:04<valdyn>sml: in reality is see alot of vendors develop for and support rhel, but I havent seen unix
10:04<sml>gdb, valdyn, thanks :)
10:04<gdb>When reading advertising for enterprise software, "Unix" generally refers to "Solaris" for some reason (and used to refer to SCO).
10:05<valdyn>solaris, *bsd, aix, hp ux are all descendants, linux is not
10:05<sml>I was going to try Solaris i386 (sorry I'll shutup after this as I realise this is offtopic) on a laptop just to get some skills. Thought it may prove commercially handy from a CV point of view
10:06<pexio>how do i expand a partition in debian? or is it easier just to create a partition on the remaining space and use lvm to expand onto it?
10:06<sml>pexio: you alraedy have LVM ?
10:06<pexio>yes
10:06<sml>do you have any unsused space? coz it's simple if you do
10:06<valdyn>sml: when linux was started there was no freebsd, it was quite expensive. Few years later no one would have started linux in all likelyness
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10:07<sml>valdyn: well we're all lucky then in that case. I can't imagine working in IT without Linux.
10:07<alesan>hi I am using squeeze... it has a package autoconf 2.67 that is known to be buggy... I need to get at least 2.68, how can I do? Is it possible using apt?
10:07<gdb>sml: There's #debian-offtopic where lots of folks would probably more than happy to talk about this. It's a real geek topic and well, we're all... you know. ;-)
10:07<pexio>sml: yes i have unused space on the disk
10:07<pexio>i just need to make it bigger
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10:08<gdb>pexio: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html -- is this what you're looking for?
10:08<sml>pexio: well you can use lvextend -L+1G /dev/blah/blah on the logical volume. then resize2fs
10:08<gdb>pexio: I admit I've not seen all the scrollback for your question but I gather you're wanting to extend an LVM volume?
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10:09<gdb>pexio: (or create a new one and concatanate it to a current one)
10:09<sml>where +1G extends by 1GB. obviously change to fit. and you can also specifcy an absolute size instead in taht command.
10:09<sml>upsizing can be done live
10:10<pexio>i have a disk on 500GB and a partition which is 100GB, I just want to expand that
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10:11<sml>I don't know why the debian installer chooses to usee , by default, all available space for the pv. becuase you can't then resize it up. i always do a manual install of debian partition-wise and make sure i have disk free to use in emergencies. better than just having a 200GB home dir.
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10:11<sml>gdb: i'll pop on there and have a chat about it sometime. just at work at the moment, and was just pondering the question in my mind so thought i'd just blurt it out :)
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10:12<pexio>i just thought that i couldn't use lvm before doing something with fdisk first
10:12<gdb>sml: If you're referring to the "easy mode" install (ie; non-expert) it's likely because if you want to leave unallocated space, you want to leave it for a reason (and know what you're doing). The average install of Debian, the "give me sane defaults", will assume you want to use all of the free space on your disk for the new operating system.
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10:13<sml>gdb: fair enough :)
10:13<gdb>pexio: You're not using LVM currently?
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10:13<sml>just a shame to have LVM but not be able to use it unless you resize down straight after a normal install or otherwise do an expert install. but i understand your rationale. makes sense.
10:14<pexio>gdb: well it's because its a virtual machine, and i just made the disk larger in vmware, now i want to expand the partition and the lvm volume so i can use the extra space
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10:14<gdb>sml: Well, also, the "sane defaults" (just keep clicking OK) doesn't even use LVM, but actual partitions.
10:15<gdb>sml: I think every other distribution defaults to LVM, even. :-)
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10:16<gdb>pexio: You had suggested that you may not be using LVM. Are the volumes you want to expand LVM logical volumes or are they physical disk partitions?
10:16<gdb>pexio: Meaning, for example, you want to make /home bigger. Is it a home_lv sitting in a home_vg, or is it /dev/sda6, for example?
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10:19<babilen>inquisitive: How did you prepare the usb stick?
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10:19<pexio>gdb: i always get confused with this stuff. I have a disk /dev/sdb (it is currently 500GB large) on it i have a partition /dev/sdb1 (which is 100GB) and on that i have /dev/data/backupvol which is a LVM, does it make sense?
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10:22<inquisitive>babilen: sorry, I missed "How did you prepare the USB stick?" This is a usb dvd drive, not a stick. As "user" before the server gave me the nick "Guest3520" I said, "I have tried the netinstall CD, CD1, and now DVD1 with two usb DVD burners."
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10:23<babilen>yes, I read that. But you gave the impression that you actually used a USB stick for the installation afterwards. Hence my wish to clarify this point. The CDs *should* work and *do* work for a plethora of people. I am not sure what the problem might be in your case.
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10:23<babilen>!check cd
10:23<dpkg>To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD/DVD image, see http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum You should compare this md5sum to the checksum for the ISO image on the mirror. See also <check iso signature>.
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10:23<babilen>inquisitive: Can you install from USB?
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10:24<inquisitive>babilen: the installer hangs at the boot menu. I press return (even multiple times) and nothing happens.
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10:25<inquisitive>babilen: as I said before, bizarrely, the netinst on a DVD /did/ work for once. it stopped and asked for another CD, making no sense particularly because it was supposed to install from the net at that point but also because the cd did not exist!
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10:25<inquisitive>The installer, after installing the base system, asked for a CD that did not exist.
10:25<babilen>inquisitive: Do you boot from the same USB CD drive? Can you boot from USB and to you own a USB pen drive?
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10:26<babilen>inquisitive: You can also just install the base system and take it from there -- There is no need to install any tasks during the initial installation and everything you need should be on the netinst CD. I still have no idea why the squeeze CDs don't work for you (is the md5sum correct?)
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10:29<inquisitive>hmm. What happened to biblen?
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10:30<inquisitive>Anyway, why do all CD versions of 6.0.4 and the DVD1 hang at the installer menu when I install via a usb drive?
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10:40<sparky4>i am installing debian wheezy
10:40<sparky4>and testing it on a 486
10:40<sparky4>w
10:40<xayon>sparky4: congratulations
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10:41<inquisitive>hmm. I have the same friggin' problem with 5.0.9. The installer hangs at the menu. How can I install via a usb drive?
10:42<babilen>!tell inquisitive -about usb install
10:42*babilen blames inquisitive's USB CD drive
10:43<babilen>inquisitive: And what is biblen?
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11:51<yopyop>Hello, on lenny, there was a package for nfsboot called nfsbooted. It containted a script (mountfix) which parsed fstab to look for ramfs mount, copy original dir to ramfs mounted dir. So most of /var dir wouldn't be empty. Is a script like that in squeeze ?
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11:55<sml>just a quickie. what's the advantage of installing wordpress the debian package as oppossed to just getting the php and untarring it under /var/www? I don't see, or understand, why they're packaged up in Debian since these things change often and all have their own auto-update built in.
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11:56*sml must be missing something
11:56<MrFrood>sml: debian packages will automatically get patched with security updates etc
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11:57<MrFrood>when you do an apt/ptitude update
11:57<sml>MrFrood: but then so does wordpress. when you login it warns you do update after a security update, and therefore new upstream version.
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11:58<sml>or do debian packages get patched faster ?
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11:58<tommas>hello, could somebody recommend information sources where I could find documentation describing the debian image creating process?
11:59<tommas>debian wiki does not seem to be very informative..
11:59<MrFrood>well then not a lot other than the Debian package (if in stable) will of had a line by line code audit
11:59<melmothX_>sml: if you have multiple machines, upgrading a dozen of wp installations could become a pain
12:00<sml>MrFrood: understood. thanks
12:00<MrFrood>tommas: have you tried the ain debian documentation?
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12:00<MrFrood>s/ain/main
12:00<babilen>sml: Why do you use a distribution at all? I mean you could manually install and update *all* software -- I am by no means a WP user, but would argue that the packages are most likely well integrated into the whole Debian system (think init scripts, default configuration for various http daemons, documentation in pre-defined places, well tested, security support by Debian's security team in addition to upstream, ...)
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12:02<MrFrood>tommas: http://www.debian.org/doc/
12:03<tommas>actually I have tried it, but maybe I missed the place where cd image creation process is described
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12:03<sml>babilen: but with these drop in isolated php directories you're not installing stuff scattershot over the debian system. and it's , in some way, isolated or sandboxed from the rest of the system. if it has it's own in-built update system for security updates too, then i don't see the problem. the reason i ask is that i did this for wordpress. now one of my users wants joomla and im trying to decide whether i should install the joomla debian package or just go
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12:03<tommas>I have tried looking on reference
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12:03<sml>and basically i don't know what's best because I don't understand the implications of doing it one way over the other (both short term and longer term)
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12:04<babilen>sml: I can't comment on those packages, but I would always use the Debian package unless I have a very good reason not to. You might want to discuss this with WP and Joomla upstreams as well or bring it up on suitable Debian mailing lists (such as debian-user or more specific ones)
12:04<sml>babilen: noted. thanks.
12:05<sml>In fact I'm subscribed to debian-user so will raise it there :)
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12:06<babilen>sml: The less work it is to keep your system updated and in a functional state the more likely it is to be actually up-to-date and running. You can surely install software from various sources and rely on their upgrade mechanism, but that incurs more work for the system administrator. That coupled with the fact that updated packages that are uploaded as security updates in Debian are typically well-testing and patches are most likely audited by ...
12:06<babilen>... the package maintainer (in addition to upstream) as well, I don't really see a reason not to use the pacakges.
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12:29<sacha_>salut
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12:30<sacha_>je cherche comment installer epathy sur xubuntu ? je suis sur linux depuis 3 jours,merci de m aider
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12:31<MrFrood>!fr
12:31<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
12:31<MrFrood>!ubuntu
12:31<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
12:33<AndroUser>I installed an individual package using dpkg. Now when I am trying to remove it I get error "error processing crossatformui (--remove):"
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12:34<AndroUser>subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
12:34<lcb>Hi. Someone please give me a place to get the correct and updated driver for a Canon MP500 printer/scanner - the system recognizes it (Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:170c Canon, Inc. PIXMA MP500 Scanner) but didn't install it.
12:35<AndroUser>Configured to not write apport reports
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12:37<AndroUser>I even tried apt-get -f install it still gives me the same error. Because of this error I am unable to install any other package even apt-get dist-upgrade is stalled
12:37<blarson>AndroUser: sounds like an error in the package install script.
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12:39<AndroUser>blarson I think you are right. Now I don't have the package with me. I am ok to remove it the dirty way that is to forcibly remove the package but I don't know how to do that
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12:45<AndroUser>Pls help me
12:46<ribe>are you ok AndroUser ?
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12:47<AndroUser>Yes but this package is driving nee nuts.
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12:47<ribe>ok, lets see if I can help? I thought a WOLF was chasing you or something?
12:48<AndroUser>Its almost like that :)
12:48<AndroUser>:(
12:48<daemonkeeper>AndroUser: Paste actual outputs to a pastebin.
12:50<AndroUser>Right now I logged in from me phone and the system has no GUI. I can type the out put in here
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12:50<AndroUser>:( I feel bad for not posting in paste bin
12:50<daemonkeeper>AndroUser: Now, what are you trying to achieve? Remove the package or install it?
12:50<agdfg>hola
12:50<AndroUser>Shall I type the output? It won't take much space
12:51<AndroUser>Remove
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12:51<dondelelcaro>AndroUser: if you're logged into a system, install pastebinit, and use that to paste the output
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12:51<daemonkeeper>Well, given that, you can force the postrm script not to fail. Obviously it might leave back some fragments, then.
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12:52<AndroUser>Well I am unable to install any package because this package is not getting remove
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12:52<AndroUser>I already posted some output
12:52<AndroUser>Just scrollup
12:53<daemonkeeper>Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossatformui.postrm. Add set -x somewhere to the top of the file and try again. You will get debugging output.
12:53<daemonkeeper>It will still fail, but you'll see what's going on.
12:53<AndroUser>Ok let me try
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12:54<AndroUser>I got some out put
12:54<daemonkeeper>What's failing then?
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12:56<AndroUser>I think this is what is the problem. ztemtvcdromd: no process found
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12:56<daemonkeeper>Righto. Sounds like a poor written script.
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12:56<AndroUser>Dam ZTE. So what should I do now?
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12:57<daemonkeeper>I don't know what this script does. If you don't care at all, just add "exit 0" to the top. If you feel like it does something important (other than killing non-existing processes, comment out the failing part)
12:58<AndroUser>Thank a lot let me give it a try.
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13:00<sparky4>ohh god
13:00<sparky4>i have etch running on a 486DX@33MHz
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13:01<daemonkeeper>MrFrood: Look, a disciple
13:01<AndroUser>daemonkeeper thanx a lot it worked.
13:01*MrFrood giggles
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13:02<alesan>how do I check which version I have installed?
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13:02<daemonkeeper>Version of what?
13:02<alesan>debian
13:02<daemonkeeper>lsb_release -a, cat /etc/debian_version
13:03<alesan>the cat gives me 6.0.4
13:03<alesan>but that is squeeze, stable, or sid?
13:03<daemonkeeper>Squeeze
13:03<alesan>or testing?
13:03<alesan>noooo I wanted wheezy
13:03<alesan>how come it installed squeeze
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13:04<alesan>ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-armel/20110106+b1/images/versatile/netboot/ this install defaults to squeeze? Even though it is under "wheezy"?
13:04<alesan>what's going on...
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13:11<tazer>hey what OS do u guys run?
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13:14<cusco>is old gnome 2.X available in testing?
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13:16<MrFrood>cusco: I don't think so but #debian-next for testing stuff
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13:17<MrFrood>tazer: look at the channel name and take a guess
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13:30<tazer>i have debian squeeze 6.0.1 i think
13:30<tazer>how do i upgrade to 6.0.4?
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13:34<ProgVal>tazer: sudo aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade
13:35<ProgVal>I mean sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
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13:35<tazer>ok thanks
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13:38<tazer>i will reboot
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14:09<tazer>hi im back
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14:09<tazer>how can i check to make sure my debian is now 6.0.4?
14:10<xayon>cat /etc/debian_version
14:11<MrFrood>cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*}
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14:15<tomi>hey
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14:27<zipper>hello everyone
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15:19<gernot>XMPP clients on Mac OS X (specifically Psi) notice when the computer is being suspended and set their status to offline (with an appropriate message even). Clients on Debian don't do that so that users appear to be online for a while longer (all the while losing messages). Does somebody know the reason for this problem and whether it can be solved?
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15:23<quitte>http://upower.freedesktop.org/docs/UPower.html
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15:29<gernot>quitte, thanks, that's a start. upower is already installed and running so I suppose I'll have to try to find out why clients don't make use of it yet.
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15:37<ndre>hi
15:37<ndre>could someone help me to solve one problem?
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15:41<blarson>!ask
15:41<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:44<ndre>ok :D i have a problemi with compiz; i'm running debian version 6.04 squeeze 2.6.32-5-amd64; i already tryed to follow the wiki's guide, but nothing to do..
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15:47<ndre>if i modify the xorg.conf as debian's wiki says and then i type "compiz --replace", compiz run and i have all the effects, but if i close the terminal i lost everything and even the desktop became confused
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15:49<MrFrood>ndre: have you tried restarting the X server?
15:49<ndre>with /etc/init.d/gdm3 restart ?
15:50<MrFrood>yeah
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15:50<ndre>yes i did it
15:51<ndre>then i do alt+f2
15:51<ndre>log as user
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15:51<ndre>login* as user
15:51<ndre>and try to type compiz --replace
15:51<ndre>but nothing happend
15:51<ndre>i get this error:
15:51<ndre>xter: display is not set
15:51<ndre>xterm*
15:52<MrFrood>I'm not a compiz expert so I will not be able to help much, if you have no joy with anyone else here try compiz on irc.freenode.net
15:52<MrFrood>ndre: odd
15:52<ndre>ok thanks!
15:52<MrFrood>er #compiz
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15:53<sml>is there a way to check your mail using mail on a system that uses Maildir. host just told me in bash that i have mail but when i check with mail it says Maildir is a directory
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15:54<MrFrood>sml: have checked the manpahe for how to configure mail?
15:55<MrFrood>(on which point I think iirc the bsd-mailx has more options)
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15:57<sml>MrFrood: will do.
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15:57<sml>is it usual to recieve RST packets? i thought they were onlu used to kill a connection., usually FIN is used right? FIN/ACK
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16:09<sidney>test
16:10<sml>sidney: success!
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16:10<sidney>for some reason my question is not displaying
16:10<sidney>just checking
16:11<sidney>would this be a correct path /home$ sidney/downloads/conky
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16:41<zsolt>hi there!i got two debian machine but got no gigabit ethernet.need to transfer big amount of files from one machine to another.
16:41<zsolt>got firewire
16:42<zsolt>but unable to use it,cause can't ping from one machine to another via firewire
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16:44<zenobix>zsolt: something like crossover firewire?
16:44<zsolt>yes
16:44<zsolt>i did it with an xp and ubuntu machine before
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16:45<zsolt>but don't now how to do that with debian
16:45<solange>Brasil ?
16:45<solange>Speek Portuguese ?
16:45<dondelelcaro>!br
16:45<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
16:45<solange>thanks :*
16:46<zsolt>in squeeze amd64 eth1394.ko not included
16:47<zsolt>but found a solution that don't work for me
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16:47<zsolt>modprobe firewire_net
16:48<zsolt>returns no error
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16:51<sidney>when i cd to my tmp folder why do i get a # instead of $
16:53<zenobix>sidney: shell defaults? cat ~/.bashrc | cat ~/.zshrc
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17:00<krany>hello
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17:00<krany>what is the channel name for ARM port related talk?
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17:01<MrFrood>krany: #debian-arm
17:01<krany>thx
17:02<sidney>zenobix, I have always used Super Os or Ubuntu never had to venture into terminal
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17:02<MrFrood>sidney: a # normally indicates that you are root
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17:06<sidney>one of you smart guys should tweek Debian as a new distro
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17:07<daemonkeeper>Yes, let's emancipate from Ubuntu, our upstream disto.
17:07<daemonkeeper>*distro
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17:08<ribe>really?
17:08*MrFrood is waiting for the alpha release of daemonkeeper-linux
17:08<ribe>what you find wrong with Debian sidney ?
17:08<zenobix>yeah, but debian based distros bring some specific usecase. debian works very good as server.
17:09<sidney>far to much trouble to install programs
17:09<MrFrood>?
17:09<zenobix>sidney: apt?
17:09<ribe>how long have you been a user sidney ?
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17:09<engla>sidney: software-center is packaged in debian.. pretty buggy though
17:09<sidney>ubuntu a couple of years
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17:11<sidney>apt only helps if it in the repos
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17:11<ribe>I am NOT an IT pro of any type, I had been using for almost a decade (desktop) when I started using Debian about 3 years ago. I have learned so much using it, its off the scale. and I was one of those that did NOT know how to even install Debian.
17:12<zenobix>etc/sources to the rescue ;)
17:12<ribe>I started using Linux on the desktop way back when Red Hat 5 came out
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17:13<sidney>etc/sources in terminal
17:14<engla>sidney: ubuntu ppas has made it easier for their users to install custom packages.
17:14<engla>sidney: is packaging itself a too big hurdle for making software available to debian?
17:14<ribe>Using and learning Debian has allowed me to start using and learning FreeBSD.
17:14<zenobix>sidney: /etc/apt/sources.list
17:14<zenobix>there you can add more repos
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17:17<ribe>sidney, you may want to check this illustrated install out, its based on Lenny but it teaches you aBOUT repos and how to set them up. the info still valid with Wheezy, check it out: http://wiki.debian.org/LennyIllustratedInstall
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17:18<sidney>zenobix i believe i have the correct packages in the sources.list
17:18<sidney>ribe thanks
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17:19<zenobix>you can choose various "branches" -> http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
17:19<zenobix>maybe you miss the Non-free sources from ubuntu?
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17:20<sidney>can i add ubuntu sources?
17:21<zenobix>mmhh... i never need to. what do you want install?
17:21<sidney>conky
17:21<engla>sidney: no
17:21<ribe>not as far as I know
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17:21<sidney>didnt think so
17:21<zenobix>conky - i have it on my fluxbox running.
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17:22<zenobix>on lenny
17:22<sidney>I updated my sources list to non free and still cant install it
17:23<zenobix>apt-get update && apt-cache search conky
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17:23<zenobix>conky - highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo
17:24<engla>sidney: pastebin your sources list?
17:24<engla>sidney: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=conky
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17:24<ribe>I gotta learn how to use pastebin
17:25<ribe>what machine are you running it on sidney ?
17:25<engla>ribe: pastebinit package if you want cli integration
17:25<zenobix>sidney: login as root and execute: apt-cache search conky
17:25<zenobix>and then: apt-get install conky
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17:26<sidney>zenobix no output
17:26<ribe>what is conky used for?
17:26<zenobix>conky - highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo
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17:26<engla>ribe: seen those screenshots with an info display of computer stats on the desktop? it's used for that
17:27<ribe>ok
17:27<ribe>thanks
17:27<ribe>engla can I install the X11 desktop on my debian laptops?
17:27<zenobix>dsl (damn small linux) comes with conky.
17:27<engla>ribe: what is that?
17:27<sidney>post a link to pastebin please
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17:28<engla>sidney: http://paste.debian.net/
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17:28<engla>there are other more fancy ones for code like codepad.org
17:28<ribe>engla, I guess NOT engla THANKS!
17:28<sidney>http://paste.debian.net/157243/
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17:30<zenobix>sidney: i am not sure but for conky you just need to add:
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17:30<zenobix>deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main
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17:30<zenobix>and exec apt-get update
17:30<engla>sidney has contrib in there and it looks normal so it should be installable
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17:31<engla>zenobix: for some reason conky is in contrib in squeeze
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17:31<sidney>squeeze is what i'm on
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17:32<engla>sidney: the sources.list looks normal
17:33<sidney>I have two sources list one is blank
17:34<engla>how do you mean two, which filenames?
17:35<sidney>gedit /etc/apt/sources-list gives me two files
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17:35<sidney>one is blank thats what i had after install
17:36<sidney>i added the second
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17:36<zenobix>you could check your sources with: less /etc/apt/sources.list
17:37<zenobix>less eats anything, if not it tells you why ;)
17:37<engla>sidney: '/etc/apt/sources-list' isn't a valid location for a souces.list file
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17:43<sidney>zenobix, /etc/apt/sources.list Permission denied
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17:44<zenobix>you must root to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
17:44<zenobix>or su
17:44<abrotman>to edit .. not view
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17:44<sidney>i was root
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17:45<zenobix># ls -hal /etc/apt/sources.list
17:45<zenobix>^ whats the output?
17:45<zenobix># whoami
17:45<zenobix>^ whats the output?
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17:45<zenobix># as prompt
17:46<abrotman>that's confusing ...
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17:46<zenobix>abrotman: # as pompt?
17:46<sidney>no such file or dir
17:46<abrotman>sidney: cat /etc/debian_version ?
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17:47<zenobix>sidney: whoami
17:47<abrotman>irrelevant
17:47<sidney>cat /etc/debian_version 6.0.4
17:48<abrotman>sidney: do you have web access ?
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17:48<sidney>yes
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17:48<abrotman>sidney: use paste.debian.net .. show us the full output of 'apt-cache policy'
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17:53<abrotman>sidney: ?
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17:56<sidney>abrotman for some reason epiphany stopped working http://paste.debian.net/157248/
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17:59<sidney>this Os seems snapper that the other one
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18:03<sidney>abrotman http://paste.debian.net/157248/
18:03<abrotman>i saw it .. i was just trying to help those that wanted to see your sources
18:03<abrotman>what is your actual problem?
18:04<sidney>i wanted to install conky
18:04<abrotman>judd: versions conky
18:04<judd>Package: conky on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.0-2+lenny1; squeeze/contrib: 1.8.0-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.8.1-5~bpo60+1; sid: 1.8.1-6; wheezy: 1.8.1-6
18:04<engla>sidney: this output does not correspond to the sources.list you posted before
18:04<engla>conky package is in contrib in squeeze, mind
18:05<abrotman>sidney: and you don't have /etc/apt/sources.list ?
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18:06<sidney>i use gedit /etc/apt/sources-list
18:06<sidney>engla i am on squeeze
18:06<engla>sidney: '/etc/apt/sources-list' isn't a valid location for a souces.list file
18:06<abrotman>DOT not DASH
18:06<engla>(I'm repeating myself)
18:06<abrotman>sidney: and you don't have /etc/apt/sources.list ?
18:07<abrotman>and you probably can't use gedit unless you use gksudo to do it
18:07<sidney>i dont know what you mean by i dont have
18:07<abrotman>it's a quesiton .. do you have that file?
18:07<sidney>abrotman, i use su
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18:08<engla>Goddag yxskaft
18:09<abrotman>pretty much
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18:11<sidney>where can i find that file /etc/apt/sources.list
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18:11<abrotman>exactly where you just stated
18:11<abrotman>sidney: in a pastebin .. paste 'find /etc/apt/' .. so we can see all the files
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18:13<sidney>sidney# find/etc/apt/bash: find/etc/apt/: No such file or directory
18:13<themill>sidney: spaces are important
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18:14<abrotman>he just joined and he knows that!
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18:16<sidney>I get no output for /etc/apt/sources.list
18:17<sidney>permission denied
18:17<sidney>and i'm root
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18:18<themill>umm.... it's not a program that you execute
18:19<sidney>sorry now i understand
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18:20<sidney>/etc/apt/sources.list is empty
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18:28<sidney>http://paste.debian.net/157255/
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18:29<sidney>I didnt know there was a folder and a file by the same name
18:29<engla>you need some precision, a folder and a file cannot have the same name. similar, but not the same
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18:31<sidney>engla i have source-list, sources.list, sources.list.backup, sources-list
18:32<engla>sidney: and don't you call them all the same
18:32<engla>they are clearly different
18:32<engla>also, only one of them is the correct one the rest are trash
18:32<sidney>ok i see the difference now
18:32<engla>no wonder you have trouble
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18:36<sidney>sources.list only open a box i can't put it in pastew bin
18:37<engla>put that sensible sources list here http://paste.debian.net/157255/ into sources.list
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18:38<engla>and run apt-get update and you're on track again
18:39<sidney>engla, I dont get a file to be pasted
18:39<engla>ok
18:40<engla>well edit your file and fix it
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18:44<sidney>engla, thank you I've been working on this 3 days and one crashed hard drive
18:44<engla>ok
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18:44<sidney>i have it now
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19:11<hdon>hi all :) i am upgrading, and just realized i'm doing it over ssh, and ssh is one of the packages being upgraded. is my connection going to die, and then SIGHUP my upgrade process?
19:13<rudi_s>hdon: Read the update instructions. Normally the connection won't die during a ssh restart.
19:13<hdon>rudi_s: thanks :)
19:13<themill>as long as the network connection is not also managed by network-manager...
19:13<hdon>it was dumb of me not to get to a real terminal (well it's a xen vm, so "real" in this case is not the right term:)
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19:17<rudi_s>np
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20:24<nutron>I'm using a nightly build of d-i and I'm running into it not being able to retrieve the files from the mirror (it did at first), known issue or ... I must've messed something up maybe.
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20:38<newbie>Çäðàñâóéòå ó ìåíÿ âîçíèêëà ïðîáëåìà ïðè óñòàíîâêå debian
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20:39<newbie>Çäåñü åñòü êòîíèáóäü?
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20:41<newbie>I instal debian, but when i start system i see blac screen
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20:43<garn32>during boot I get 'INIT: PID XXX [id ~~] seem to have hung' anyone have any clues on this?
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21:11<detly>maybe I'm tired, but can someone tell me what I've missed? I expect to see "C", but get "en_AU.UTF-8" with: LANG=C echo $LANG
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21:11<detly>in bash, that is
21:13<anonbear>any1 use tor on linux
21:13<anonbear>?
21:13<peterS>detly: this is not about LANG but about how variable interpolation happens. so, 'FOO=xyz echo $FOO'. You might expect to see 'xyz', but in fact the $FOO is expanded before the statement as a whole is executed. so it is expanded to 'FOO=xyz echo ' and then executed.
21:14<peterS>detly: try this: LANG=C eval 'echo $LANG'
21:14<peterS>the '' prevent $LANG from being expanded before the statement is executed
21:15<detly>peterS - aha! learned something new :)
21:15<peterS>using eval is similar in effect to LANG=C sh -c 'echo $LANG'
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21:57<rascranasingha>say, anyone here using fluidsynth with the gs soundfont?
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22:01<robbiethe1st>i've never gotten fluidsynth working
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22:02<robbiethe1st>well, right
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22:06<rascranasingha>robbiethe1st: oh :D
22:07<rascranasingha>Just in case someone did, I wanted to know where the soundfont is in /usr
22:07<robbiethe1st>Um, don't you manually select it?
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22:07<robbiethe1st>I've aways done that with both my HWSynth(Audigy 2) and /some/ soft-synth app...
22:08<rascranasingha>robbiethe1st: no actually I have a soundfont I prefer
22:08<rascranasingha>I want to use that instead
22:08<robbiethe1st>Yeah. Just use whatever command you need to to change it
22:08<rascranasingha>I don't have the GS sound font
22:09<robbiethe1st>I used QSynth, and in that, you can click properties and select the file
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22:09<robbiethe1st>Oh, you want a copy?
22:09<rascranasingha>no
22:09<robbiethe1st>http://www.schristiancollins.com/generaluser.php maby? Oh..
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22:11<rascranasingha>I know it's in the repos :D But I just want to create a deb of the soundfont I have so I can install it without a hassle the next time I reinstall.
22:11<rascranasingha>so I just need to know where soundfonts are normally stored in /usr
22:11<robbiethe1st>I can't help you there, I don't know
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22:12<rascranasingha>robbiethe1st: thank you anyway :D
22:12<robbiethe1st>I'd honestly just backup a copy of the SoundFont file, and the /etc/ config file for FouidSynth with it's path
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22:12<rascranasingha>robbie: For now, that's what I've done :)
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22:26<StarmanDX>I plan to make separate /var and /tmp partitions, but I have no idea how big to make them. How far is 1 GB from a decent size?
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22:27<nevyn>I still like tmpfs
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22:27<StarmanDX>tmpfs?
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22:28<robbiethe1st>tmpfs for tmp is awesome
22:28<robbiethe1st>It's a ram-backed filesystem.
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22:29<robbiethe1st>Which means that A, everything gets auto-wiped at shutdown, and B, accesses are really, /really/ fast
22:29<nevyn>and /var is only sensible if you're doing a /var thing with the system (mail serving etc
22:29*nevyn tends towards swap home and / with tmp on tmpfs
22:29<nevyn>~ 30Gb or so
22:29<nevyn>for /
22:30<nevyn>but it all depends on purpose.
22:30*nevyn starts humming purpose from avenue Q
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22:31<robbiethe1st>I have / on EXT4, /tmp on tmpfs, and /Data as my main storage drivre
22:31<StarmanDX>So for, say, a home computer with one user who mostly uses it to archive and edit images, /var doesn't have to be too big?
22:31<robbiethe1st>No
22:32<robbiethe1st>The only thing to be concerned about is a cache file for say Gimp, but that's in /home anyway...
22:32<robbiethe1st>Unless you change it manually
22:34<StarmanDX>Is a 1 GB /tmp partition and a 256 MB /var partition advisable then? Or perhaps I should just keep /var in /.
22:36<StarmanDX>I feel like I shouldn't be installing Debian without knowing these things.
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22:39<kop>StarmanDX: You may as well have a single partition, and a /boot partition just to be flexible.
22:40<kop>StarmanDX: The only thing separate partitions gets you is being able to fill one or another and not hose the whole system. /boot is nice to have separate so that you can use various bootloaders and don't have to worry about raid or lvm or anything.
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22:40<zykotick9>StarmanDX: be aware apt uses /var for storing downloaded files
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22:41<kop>StarmanDX: lvm is nice to allow for future flexibility in partition sizes. But you don't really need to worry about that if you've 1 partition (+ say 200M for /boot). And it's another level of complication a beginner does not need.
22:41<StarmanDX>Okay. Thank you, kop and zykotick9.
22:42<kop>StarmanDX: Some like to have /home on it's own partition to be able to 'share' it between various distros, but that too can be tricky with versions of desktop config files for various programs messing with each other.
22:43<kop>StarmanDX: The only other recommendation is have a way to make backups. It's a good exercise in doing something with your shiny new system. ;-)
22:43<kop>StarmanDX: And if you're new, see the <introduction> and <overview> factoids. Type "/msg dpkg overview" into your irc.
22:46<StarmanDX>This helps a lot. Thank you again, kop!
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23:44<Guest3604>I had a quick question, is Netgear N150 natively supported on Debian Stable? I want to know before I switch to it and have no wireless
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23:46<bones_was_here>routers and access points are not operating system specific
23:46<Guest3604>bones_was_here, are you talking to me?
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23:46<bones_was_here>but usb modems often only work in windows, so if your netgear has a usb modem feature it probably won't work
23:46<bones_was_here>yes
23:47<dondelelcaro>Guest3604: if you mean the USB adapter, it should be. You may need firmware though.
23:47<Guest3604>bones_was_here, no I am meaning a netgear n150 USB adapter wireless usb. Not a router. I want to know if the Debian stable will nativaley have the driver.
23:47<Guest3604>dondelelcaro, is there anyway to check ? If I will need the firmware and that before I install.
23:48<Guest3604>Im currently on Ubuntu and unity is aggrevating. Going back to the good gnome.
23:48<bones_was_here>i assumed you meant this http://www.netgear.com.au/home/products/wirelessrouters/simplesharing/wnr1000.aspx
23:48<bones_was_here>as far as wifi adapters go, you need to know what chip is in the adapter, and see what linux driver supports that chip
23:49<Guest3604>bones_was_here, according to the post its something a9thk driver
23:49<Guest3604>Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:4260 NetGear, Inc. WG111(v3) 54 Mbps Wireless [RealTek RTL8187B]
23:49<bones_was_here>netgear have, in the past, used multiple different chips (requiring different drivers) for the same model
23:49<Guest3604>bones_was_here, I posted the chipset part
23:50<bones_was_here>ok that definately won't be ath9k, which is for modern atheros chipsets, whereas you have a realtek on there
23:51<bones_was_here>http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x
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