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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-02-25

---Logopened Sat Feb 25 00:00:20 2012
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02:26<domenico>ciao
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03:15<KRB>Hi
03:16<KRB>hi
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03:17<KRB>hi
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03:31<ayaka>KRB what is up
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03:40<scientes_>http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xz-utils
03:40<scientes_>looks to me that the experimental package needs to be dropped
03:40<scientes_>as sid is more recent
03:40<scientes_>should I open a bug?
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03:44<ompaul>scientes_: no, they are different arches
03:44<scientes_>oh, wait i just realized that
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03:56<alexis>slt
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04:02<ro>bom dia, alguém poderia me ajuda a configura o som no meu sistema ele não ta rolando? por favor
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04:10<ayaka>is there something like grub in arm?
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04:41<Firdaus>!approx
04:41<dpkg>Approx is an HTTP-based proxy server for Debian-style package archives. It fetches files from remote repositories on demand, and caches them for local use. It saves time and network bandwidth if you need to install or upgrade .deb packages for a number of machines on a local network. Packages are downloaded from a remote site only once, regardless of how many local clients install it.
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05:17<Firdaus>how to remove DE gnome from my debian ?
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06:58<tom5623456453>hello
06:58<tom5623456453>i am having trouble with /etc/fstab
06:58<tom5623456453>the mounted volume is read only for non root users
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06:59<tom5623456453>in fstab i have rw,user,auto
06:59<tom5623456453>any ideas?
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07:01<arand>tom5623456453: Which filesystem?
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07:06<tom5623456453>ext3
07:07<tom5623456453>/dev/sda1 /mnt/Backups465 ext3 rw,user,auto 0 0
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07:09<tom5623456453>drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 2012-02-25 22:57 Backups465
07:10<tom5623456453>i also changed diir to give full access
07:10<tom5623456453>any other ideas?
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07:41<pabs>games team is having a screenshots party tomorrow, all welcome: http://deb.li/gamesparty
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07:46<fasta>pabs: why don't you just automate that?
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07:48<pabs>not possible
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07:50<Choose>ada yg ol?
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07:52<fasta>Is there a way to accept self-signed certificates which are really wrong?
07:53<fasta>(In Chrome)
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08:06<konza>Hi all, How to run a script when the user logs on via gui?
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08:12<shepherd>konza: System>Preferences>Startup Applications
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08:16<konza>shepherd, thanks
08:16<konza>shedammit, is there any file where we can add this?
08:17<konza>shepherd, is there any file where we can add this?
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08:19<shepherd>konza: I think it is in ~/.config/autostart
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08:20<tone>what's next after squeeze, what's the name for testing?
08:20<weasel>wheezy
08:21<tone>thank you weasel
08:21<daemonkeeper>tone: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases by the way.
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08:27<tone>daemonkeeper, thanks to you as well.
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09:25<ichiro_>I'm having issues with intel i810 on squeeze. I've done an i910.modeset=0 at boot to get the thing up and running but graphical performance is poor compared to etch and i get artefacts in some cases
09:25<ichiro_>By poor performance I mean I drag a window and cpu usage shoots up to 100%. I dont even have this issue dragging transparent windows on a thinkpad 380z with a pentium II downclocked at 76MHz
09:25<ichiro_>any suggestions would be appreciated!
09:26<ichiro_>It's using the xorg default intel driver atm. I hear the old i-specific driver is no longer available
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09:34<mizos>hi
09:34<mizos>all
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09:38<ichiro_>I'm having issues with intel i810 on squeeze. I've done an i910.modeset=0 at boot to get the thing up and running but graphical performance is poor compared to etch and i get artefacts in some cases
09:39<ichiro_>Any help would be greatly appreciated
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09:56<ayaka>about load balance, i should keep different serve's contains in the same in another way while i use heartbeat and ldirectord to achieve it?
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09:58<ichiro_> I'm having issues with intel i810 on squeeze. I've done an i910.modeset=0 at boot to get the thing up and running but graphical performance is poor compared to etch and i get artefacts in some cases. Moving a window hammers the cpu. Don't have this issue on a 76Mhz pII :P
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10:49<john>hello folks
10:50<john>USA ET
10:50<ribe>hi john
10:50<john>Hi , your my first contact here
10:50<john>I am new to Ubuntu
10:50<ribe>do I get a prize?
10:50<john>lets see..............................
10:51<arand>!ubuntu
10:51<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
10:51<john>darn their all gone ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry
10:51<ribe>john, I havent used any of the buntus in about 5 years?
10:51<ribe>maybe 6?
10:52<john>I was using Windows XP
10:52<ribe>I use Debian stable and testing
10:52<john>ok
10:52<ayaka>does kernel still support jffs2 now?
10:52<ribe>don know the answer to taht one sorry
10:53<john>phone bb
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10:59<john>Q where is this server located and you guys?
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11:05<john>anyone here?
11:05<Firdaus>yes
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11:06<ribe>yes?
11:06<john>Hello.....where is this server located?
11:06<john>and most users
11:06<ribe>????????
11:06<bzed>that does not matter.
11:06<satish>anyone from India
11:06<ribe>I'm in Miami Lakes Florida USA
11:06<john>no just curious
11:07<john>I am in KY USA
11:08*themill points towards #debian-offtopic
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11:09<musca>john: don't be sad about that fact, just ask your debian related questions
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11:10<john>no problem and thanks:)
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11:10<satish>anyone from INdia
11:10<satish>hola amiga's
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11:11<razor>Dvd isn't playing. I am using squeeze xfce. Can anyone help?
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11:32<john>How can I see a list of other sevicers and where this service works
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11:47<ribe>is there a way to check the hard drive as others do with CHKDSK?
11:47<sney>yeah, fsck
11:48<ribe>thanks
11:49<ribe>will it also check for bad disc sectors?
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11:54<ring0>ribe, fsck -h
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12:28<crane>hi, i've got a porblem with my postfix. I can deliver a mail to admin@domain.tdl and everything is fine but if I'm trying it from external he told me that the recipient address is rejected and I don't know why
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12:29<crane>all other recipients are working fine... for example info@domain.tdl or info@domain2.tdl
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12:29<crane>anybody a hint whats wrong?
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13:05<Aleric>Anyone knows a channel where I could ask a legal question, about open source license
13:06<Stereo>Aleric: shoot
13:07<Aleric>Are you a lawyer? :)
13:07<Stereo>no, but I pretend to be one on IRC :)
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13:08<Aleric>Well, I want a conclusive answer.. I can guess myself too :/
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13:08<shepherd>Aleric: You know when you're getting proper legal advice - you'll get given a bill too.
13:08<Stereo>hire a lawyer then
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13:09<Aleric>Some project tries to circumvent their open source license, which is "GPL + exceptions" by distributing the resulting binary, but first converting the license to pure GPL before releasing that - making it impossible for people to make changes to the code and redistribute it again (because the exceptions are necessary for that)
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13:09<Aleric>s/but/by/
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13:10<bzed>Aleric: I fail to understand what you mean...
13:10<Aleric>So, they DO provide the source code... as demanded... and the license conversion is legal too (I think)... but they clearly harm the intent of the license... I just can't make out if it's legal or not.
13:10<themill>Aleric: you are always free to remove exceptions that were added to the GPL
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13:11<bzed>Aleric: (if you are the copyright holder of course)
13:11<Aleric>Yes, but their binary DOES have the exceptions, or it would not be allowed to distribute it.
13:11<bzed>Aleric: if *they* are the authors, they don;t even need a license to distribute the binary. *they* can do what they want with *their* code and the binaries produced from it
13:12<Aleric>themill: Doesn't the GPL demand that if you release a binary that then people have to be able to download the source code under the SAME license, with the intend they can make changes recompile and redistribute it again?
13:12<Aleric>They are not the authors
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13:12<bzed>Aleric: well if they are not the authors/copyright holders - they can't change the license.
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13:13<themill>(except by dropping the exceptions that they are allowed to do)
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13:13<Aleric>They took a GPL+exceptions project, made changes, compiled it and distribute that - and distribute the source code after making it impossible for any other project to use their changes again.
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13:13<Aleric>That isn't really what the GPL intended imho
13:14<Aleric>Upstream can't use what they do this way
13:14<themill>sounds like they're doing it wrong
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13:15<bzed>Aleric: upstream should talk to http://www.softwarefreedom.org/
13:15<Aleric>I think that with "the source" the GPL means the code that was compiled.. so, if you change the license, and therefore change the header of every .cpp and .h file - then you violated the GPL
13:15<Aleric>Cause they don't give people the source as-compiled: it was changed. That the preprocessed code wasn't changed doesn't matter, does it?
13:16<bzed>Aleric: I would guess that pretty much depend son the exceptions an dhow they were worded. and that you should ask a lawyer.
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13:17<bzed>Aleric: let upstream talk with the SFLC
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13:24<fbs>is there a way to let apt do the 'interactive' installs last? Sometimes i start an upgrade and leave to come back to see an ncurses screen + 30 packages that come after it waiting
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13:27<daemonkeeper>fbs: You can skip them entirely.
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13:44<rajesh>hello
13:44<rajesh>someone there
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13:46<Rikle_S>Hello
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13:46<Rikle_S>i'm installing debian on macbook pro
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13:46<Rikle_S>only debian, no dual boot
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13:47<Rikle_S>in've install it in graphic mode, and choosed to install grub
13:47<Rikle_S>but at the and, after reboot, it looks like there is nothing on my hard drive
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13:48<Rikle_S>on my screen, there is a folder with (?) into
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13:48<fbs>daemonkeeper: how?
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13:50<daemonkeeper>fbs: use debconf-set-selections to change the message verbosity. The lower you set it, the less messages you get (down to none).
13:50<docnix>hello channel
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13:51<daemonkeeper>fbs: Note, this will set more or less sane defaults instead of asking you then.
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13:52<fbs>daemonkeeper: well the problem with that is that i dont always use the sane defaults
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13:52<fbs>thats why i was hoping that i could shift them to the end, or some kind of flag to just skip the interactive stuff
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13:54<daemonkeeper>You can't change that. apt does its best to install packages in an order which is as reliable as possible while still aggregating installation states. Consider packages depending on others for example.
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13:55<fbs>ah well
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13:55<docnix>I need ahelp please
13:56<devil>just ask
13:56<docnix>I'm using XChat under ubuntu,
13:56<devil>oh, wrong channel
13:56<devil>this is debian
13:56<docnix>I'm tryingto change channel by using /join #<channelname>
13:56<docnix>but it doesn't work
13:56<devil>it usualy does
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13:56<devil>but still, wrong channel
13:56<docnix>I know, I'm not new in IRC
13:57<docnix>I used it since 1996
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13:57<docnix>but I often used SIRC
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13:57<docnix>now sirc went out from the packaged
13:57<docnix>packages*
13:57<devil>all that is not helpful
13:58<devil>we have no idea what ubuntu may have changed in teir xchat package
13:58<docnix>I'm trying this XChat but it doesn't look so good
13:58<docnix>I'd prefere a CLI client
13:59<ompaul>docnix: eh, we don't need a running commentary on how a ubuntu client behaves, really, we don't :)
13:59<themill>docnix: I think we're trying to understand the debian angle to this.
13:59<devil>there is konversation or quassel
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13:59<docnix>:) sorry
13:59<docnix>I beg you pardon
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14:14<bch>hello, I've just tried dm-crypt for encrpyting loopback fs. Are there good alternatives?
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14:20<valdyn>bch: alternatives to what? why?
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15:07<sh4>hello, i have a problem with my debian testing, i have fglrx installed and everything looks ok including graphic acceleration but i can't play any videos neither in totem, vlc, mplayer... everytime i play any video xorf crashes, here are two error logs, xorg error: http://pastebin.com/BJReMMjQ and mplayer error: http://pastebin.com/3kEs6UW8 thanks in advance!!!!
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15:51<stinkyfishy>hi all. how change stmp greeting in exim?
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16:14<stinkyfishy>c'mon help a stinky fishy
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16:17<csi>I have a fresh debian install w/ openpanel. Created a website, uploaded joomla 2.5, does not update, says error, errors indicate php.ini tmp file not set. I found 2 instances of php.ini on server changed both of them to reflect the needed changes but joomla site say's the changes are not there
16:18<stinkyfishy>csi: joomla is not in debian
16:18<csi>understood, but debian is the server and cannot adjust php.ini so it affects the program
16:19<csi>any place I am missing to modify php.ini
16:19<stinkyfishy>not sure but there is somthing you can do
16:19<stinkyfishy>hang on
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16:20<cezar>did you restart apache after changing php.ini ?
16:20<csi>aw...your kidding...nope...forgot
16:21<stinkyfishy>csi: <?php phpinfo();
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16:21<stinkyfishy>csi: phpinfo(INFO_MODULES);?>
16:21<stinkyfishy>csi: put that in a script and then you'll be able to see all the settings.
16:22<stinkyfishy>also service apache2 restart is a good idea like cezar said
16:24<csi>crap..that did it...restarting...thanks all...
16:24<csi>brain fart
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16:25<stinkyfishy>well i just had a brain fart too. am installing solaris and forgot it was 64 bit and have been mad trying to get the fucker to boot! till i realised it's 64 bit. jesus!
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17:07<mlowman>does anybody have any ipv6 experience?
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17:13<scientes_>mlowman, distcc has a nasty ipv6 bug that is fixed upstream, but they havn't made a release
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17:19<mlowman>scientes_, well my problem isn't related to that
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17:20<mlowman>I have an issue where a listen on unspeced interface prefers v4-only, and I'm not sure what changes to make in gai.conf
17:20<Dannyi>Hey all, im looking for a ssh command to delete my existing keys. any idea were i can find it =?
17:20<mlowman>especially since it's unmodified.
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17:22<Dannyi>The ones inside known_hosts are easy to delete, but the keys i have generated for remote ssh servers are not
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17:26<scientes_>you mean the private one in .ssh/id_rsa ?
17:26<scientes_>Dannyi, or .ssh/authorized_keys in remote hosts
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17:27<Dannyi>scientes: I think so, the i generate before i ssh-copy to the remote server. So yes i guess private
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17:27<Dannyi>i found a ssh -X something, command that did it automatically, just cant find, it ,but delete a few files should be np
17:28<scientes_>oh , you were using copy-ssh-id, and you want to revoke those authoizations?
17:29<scientes_>because you feel your private key is compramized ?
17:29<scientes_>ssh-copy-id copys your public key to .ssh/authorized_keys
17:29<scientes_>man ssh-copy-id to see what it copies
17:29<Dannyi>Mm that directory is no there
17:30<scientes_>Dannyi, it starts with a . meaning its hidden
17:30<Dannyi>nothing sub to known_keys
17:30<scientes_>both on the client and server
17:30<Dannyi>yes, i checked that, using sqeeze and gnome
17:30<scientes_>well if you use ssh at all you have a .ssh folder
17:31<Dannyi>sure that i have, but there are no hidden directories inside of that just 3 files
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17:31<scientes_>yeah, id_rsa, id_rsa.pub
17:31<scientes_>and known_hosts
17:32<alex_>algun español
17:32<scientes_>it copys your public key (usually id_rsa.pub) to other hosts .ssh/authorized_keys files
17:32<scientes_>Dannyi, ^
17:32<scientes_>!es
17:32<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
17:33<alex_>holaaa
17:33<alex_> algun españolllll
17:33<alex_>cabronesssssssssssssss
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17:33<scientes_>alex_, this is a english-only channel, for spanish go to #debian-es
17:33<Dannyi>scientes: So the authorized_keys are only on the server. Im on my laptop atm. server is clean and new no keys on it
17:34<scientes_>Dannyi, if the server (running openssh-server) doesn't have authorized_keys then it doesn't have your keys
17:34<scientes_>and you are using password authentication
17:35<Dannyi>yes exactly. But i want to transfer my laptop key to it, The problem is that my laptop has a set of keys on it allready that i dont have the pw for
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17:35<Dannyi>so i need to delete them and create a new key before copying it to the server
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17:36<scientes_>oh, if you want to generate a new private key remove/backup .ssh/id_rsa + id_rsa.pub
17:36<scientes_>and then do ssh-copy-id to the server
17:36<Dannyi>ohh easy
17:37<scientes_>wait also, ssh-keygen
17:37<scientes_>to generate a new private/public key pain
17:37<scientes_>*pari
17:37<scientes_>I always turn off password authentication after i get keys working
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17:38<Dannyi>same here, been using ssh for a while, amazed still
17:38<scientes_>that way people wont be trying to hack into your public-facing server on a constant basis, polluting your logs as well
17:38<alex_>hello
17:38<Dannyi>ssh-keygen , can it be run with a key number like 4096 instead of default ?
17:38<scientes_>although if you need password auth using a non-default port usually means they don't find you, or at least quickly
17:39<Dannyi>using deny list as well so not worried about that
17:39<alex_>you spik spanish
17:39<scientes_>you mean ssh-blacklist?
17:39<Dannyi>yes
17:39<scientes_>Dannyi, that doesn't change the regular brute-force attacks
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17:39<incog>hello friends
17:39<scientes_>thats mainly so that you don't log into a insecure sever, and don't accept public keys of client that are broken
17:40<Dannyi>scientes: no but that on top of the things you mentioned and running on a 60XXX port it havnt been a problem yet
17:40<alex_>hola soy español aqui ay alguno
17:40<scientes_>that just to prevent using broken stuff, doesn't change the standard brute-force for bad passwords that there are tons of servers out there trying to crck
17:40<scientes_>alex_, sorry, this is a only english channel, even if #debian-es is empty
17:40<scientes_>alex_, there are 23 people in #debian-es
17:41<scientes_>!es | alex_
17:41<dpkg>| alex_: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
17:42<mlowman>Dannyi: you could use fail2ban if you wanted to keep password auth but keep brute forces down.
17:42<Dannyi>Yes iwe heard of that, havnt tried it, havnt had once brute attack yet
17:42<Dannyi>that i know of at least
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17:42<mlowman>you'd see 'em in your logfiles, trust me
17:43<scientes_>Dannyi, /var/log/auth.log
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17:44<Dannyi>scientes: Thx.
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17:46<mlowman>so... I'm basically trying to figure out why the defaults on gai are what they are.
17:46<alex_>bich
17:46<mlowman>or I suppose more like why rfc 3484's defaults are what they are
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17:47<mlowman>I'm using a program that isn't listening on a v6 wildcard, since it only takes the first result of getaddrinfo
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17:47<mlowman>would that be a bug?
17:47<mlowman>I assumed best practice would be one socket, on v6 with v4-mapped enabled.
17:48<mlowman>set as an so_opt in code, of course :P
17:48<scientes_>not sure, there was some funky politics with Ulrich Drepper and lib6 a while back
17:48<scientes_>not sure if it was that function
17:48<mlowman>yeah... I saw a few messy threads.
17:48<scientes_>it was that it assumed ::1 == 127.0.0.1
17:49<mlowman>right.
17:49<mlowman>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520628
17:49<mlowman>this is the bug I was looking at
17:49<mlowman>is that what you mean?
17:49<scientes_>you have to ask for ipv6 if you want it
17:49<scientes_>in the app, thats basically what it comes down to
17:49<mlowman>i see.
17:50<scientes_>while i think libc was listening on ipv6 when they asked for ::0
17:50<scientes_>which people attacked as inflexible
17:50<mlowman>ugh, guess that means having to file a bug report
17:50<scientes_>but that is what is in upstream libc6 & red hat so not all packages ask for ipv6
17:50<mlowman>mhmm.
17:50<scientes_>*listening on ipv6 when they asked for 127.0.0.1
17:51<scientes_>or maybe 0.0.0.0
17:51<scientes_>not sure which (or both)
17:51<scientes_>it was something like that
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17:51<mlowman>i was hoping it'd be more like a blank host in gai would preferentially return a v6 socket if there's a valid global v6 address
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17:52<scientes_>here it is http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4980
17:52<mlowman>err, in the getaddressinfo() call. that was unclear.
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17:53<scientes_>"On Nov 20 a change in nss/nss_files/files-hosts.c:LINE_PARSER was
17:53<scientes_>introduced to treat ::1 the same way as 127.0.0.1."
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17:54<scientes_>http://blog.aurel32.net/47
17:54<mlowman>wow.
17:54<mlowman>well, not sure if it applies specifically
17:55<scientes_>yeah debian is maintaining a seperate branch of glibc
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17:55<mlowman>I'm just after the situation when a daemon only specifies the port
17:56<mlowman>so I guess the fix in this case is to add an ipv6 configuration option in a conf file?
17:56<mlowman>or is it to bind to all the sockets returned by getaddrinfo?
17:57<mlowman>I thought that you only used the next socket in getaddrinfo if the first didn't work.
17:57<mlowman>perhaps that's not what you're intended to do in a server socket case? (i.e., passive set)
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17:58<Dannyi>Im getting this "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. Permission denied (publickey)."
17:59<Dannyi>what permissions could be in play here with a ssh error message like that
17:59<mlowman>ooh, and if there's a more appropriate place to ask these questions I'd be happy to be directed there
17:59<mlowman>*oh
18:00<mlowman>dannyi: are you using an ssh-agent?
18:00<cthuluh>Dannyi: well, what are the permissions on the key file/ its parent directories?
18:00<mlowman>if so, did you remove your old key first?
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18:01<mlowman>(from the ssh-agent)
18:01<Dannyi>mlowman: i did remove the rsa_id files yes, genereated a new and copied it up, got a "good" message
18:01<mlowman>no, not the files
18:02<mlowman>do you know if you use an ssh-agent?
18:02<mlowman>I usually have one auto-execute in my login shells.
18:02<Dannyi>If its default on squeeze yes, otherwise no
18:03<mlowman>run eval `ssh-agent -k`
18:03<mlowman>then try again
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18:04<Dannyi>the same, didnt run it as root, just my normal users so far
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18:05<Dannyi>sadly i think its a server side problem. and i cant access it from this comp.
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18:06<mlowman>Dannyi: how'd you upload your new public key, then?
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18:07<Dannyi>ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@1xx.xxx.xx.xx
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18:09<Dannyi>solved: ssh-add did it
18:09<mlowman>Dannyi: well, that works. but shouldn't be needed if your key is in the default location
18:10<mlowman>~/.ssh/id_rsa
18:10<Dannyi>cd home/user/.ssh/
18:10<Dannyi>or well that woulndt work, but u get my point
18:11<mlowman>not quite. but I'm glad you fixed your problem :)
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18:15<Dannyi>me 2.
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18:15<Dannyi>Is there a general debian room as well, this seems to be mainly support
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18:20<shepherd>Dannyi: #debian-offtopic
18:20<Dannyi>thx
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18:31<ring1>is it possible to use aes-xts-plain instead of aes-cbc-essiv as cipher when setting up encrypted volumes in the default debian installer?
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18:37<scientes_>Dannyi, yeah ssh-copy-id [user@]host is all you should need
18:37<Dannyi>yes then the ssh-add might not be needed
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18:52<scientes_>how do i type this in ? http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/cancelling-a-command-in-bash.html
18:52<scientes_>(M-#)
18:54<weasel>nice
18:54<weasel>Esc-#
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18:54<scientes_>shirt-esc-3
18:54<scientes_>how about ctrl-a, #, enter
18:55<weasel>that's longer
18:55<scientes_>the esc is way up there however
18:55<weasel>well, you could also map your meta properly
18:55<scientes_>well i have the apply allumimum keyboard
18:55<scientes_>so i don't have meta
18:55<scientes_>i have command
18:56<weasel>then Esc and # is what you can use. *shrugs*
18:56<scientes_>"Super_L"
18:56<scientes_>and "Super_R"
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19:15<acx0>does anyone know if these settings ( http://bit.ly/xhbduV ) apply to aptitude? or if there are equivelent settings to achieve the same functionality
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19:15<acx0>I tried putting them in my local and then system aptitude config file, but build-dependencies still end up being marked as manually installed
19:16<craigevil>the wiki has a nice article that compares apt-get/aptitude commands
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19:19<acx0>but there is no aptitude command to remove/purge build-dependencies since by default they're installed as manually installed packages
19:21<themill>acx0: such a setting wouldn't make any sense in aptitude as it would automatically uninstall the packages
19:21<themill>!mk-build-deps
19:21<dpkg>from memory, mk-build-deps is a script in the <devscripts> package that creates a package called "yourpackage-build-deps" that depends on the <build-dep> packages; combining this with apt's <autoremove> feature allows you to remove build-deps after you have installed them.
19:23<heffay>I can't get Firefox 10 to use the flashplugin on squeeze. Anyone have any ideas?
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19:24<heffay>I've tried installing the plugin from the squeeze repo and from the adobe site
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19:27<acx0>themill: hmm never knew about that package. Is there a reason why a command like remove-build-dep isn't in aptitude though?
19:27<themill>well there's not really a way of doing that automatically
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19:29<scientes_>heffay, try putting the .so file in .mozilla/plugins
19:29<scientes_>heffay, you will have to create the plugins folder
19:29<scientes_>*~/.mozilla/plugins
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19:31<acx0>themill: I found this string of commands which achieves the same functionality: https://github.com/acx0/bin/blob/master/list-bdep ; just wondering why it's not a default feature
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19:32<themill>acx0: that aptitude automatically removes unneeded automatically installed packages means that you can't just do that. Note also that your command there does not just undo the build-dep command... any of the build-deps that were previously manually installed will now be marked as automatically installed and so might now be uninstalled
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19:34<heffay>the .mozilla folder already exists in my home dir.
19:34<scientes_>but not the plugins subdirectory
19:34<scientes_>ie ~/.mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.so
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19:35<heffay>is ~/.mozilla created by FF or is this a debian peculiarity?
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19:35<heffay>ill try it scientes_
19:35<scientes_>heffay, this is firefox standard stuff
19:38<heffay>it didn't work
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19:39<scientes_>try tools-->plugins
19:39<scientes_>and then go to extentions
19:39<scientes_>in iceweasel
19:39<scientes_>also, are you using the 32-bit plugin on 64-bit
19:39<scientes_>if you are on 64-bit you need the 64-bit flash plugin
19:40<scientes_>you can use "file" to check which one it is
19:40<heffay>im not using iceweasel im using firefox. im using 64bit squeeze and the plugin is 64bit also
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19:41<scientes_>try dropping it in /usr/lib/mozilla.plugins
19:41<heffay>trying to manually install from tools says the file is corrupt
19:41<scientes_>*/plugins
19:41<scientes_>download the plugin again
19:42<cefege>I have a virtualbox debian lampstack+wordpress, my pc has a dinamic ip pppoe connection, how can I make it work with a domain name?
19:42<scientes_>cefege, you need to set up NAT, and then port forwarding
19:42<scientes_>cefege, try miniupnp
19:42<scientes_>dpkg miniupnp
19:42<dpkg>scientes_: I don't know, could you explain it?
19:42<scientes_>dpkg package miniupnp
19:42<dpkg>bugger all, i dunno, scientes_
19:42<scientes_>dpkg package miniupnpc
19:42<scientes_>dpkg miniupnpc
19:42<dpkg>i haven't a clue, scientes_
19:43<scientes_>hmm
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19:43<heffay>yeah the plugin isnt corrupt
19:43<heffay>it works fine with iceweasel
19:43<heffay>and it already exists in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins too
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19:43<scientes_>are you using the 32-bit firefox download?
19:44<heffay>hm, yes it appears so
19:45<scientes_>stable: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest/linux-x86_64/en-US/firefox-10.0.2.tar.bz2
19:45<scientes_>nightly: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-13.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
19:45<scientes_>those automatically update themselves
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19:48<heffay>it worked scientes! thanks!
19:48<scientes_>which branch of firefox are you using?
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19:48<heffay>i didnt realize at the download prompt that it said i686,
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19:49<scientes_>yeah they push everyone into 32-bit
19:49<heffay>i downloaded the stable from the link you gave me
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20:00<comissarcube>Evening. Having a bit of trouble with PlayOnLinux on my Squeeze. Had to restart the computer and now when I try to start Steam, PoL tells me that it has crashed and I need to enable debugging. Once I do as it says and try to turn Steam on again, it runs debugger but gives me a heap of errors. Anyone know how to avoid that?
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20:04<scientes_>irc://irc.freenode.net/wine
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20:07<comissarcube>scientes_, I choose to run steam, nothing happens.
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20:07<scientes_>irc://irc.freenode.net/winehq
20:07<scientes_>!wine
20:07<dpkg>Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The beta Wine packages from lamaresh.net are not supported in #debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ http://www.winehq.org/ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See also <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See <newer wine>.
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20:08<comissarcube>I am aware of wine, yet it fails to open steam even after installation just as well
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20:09<scientes_>im just saying that i have no idea
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20:10<scientes_>I have never used steam on any OS
20:10<scientes_>as you are downloading playonlinux, its also unlikely a debian issue, and you might get better support in the wine channel
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20:13<comissarcube>ah I see
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22:21<sidney>this command dosen't work so what is the alternative
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22:22<sidney>nvidia-xconfig
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22:28<scientes_>nvidia-settings-manager
22:28<scientes_>sidney, ^
22:29<sidney>yes
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22:30<scientes_>nvidia-settings-manager
22:30<scientes_>you have to install it
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22:51<sidney>scientes, when I run this nvidia settings utility i get this error http://paste.debian.net/157611/
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22:58<sidney>why am i getting these messages from incog?
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23:02<scientes_>ahhh, you have to install the nvidia driver
23:02<scientes_>!nvidia
23:02<dpkg>http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
23:02<sidney>I have the drivers installed
23:03<sidney>who is incog
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23:05<sidney>I installed 195.36.31-6 dkms
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23:11<ring2>how come wine is so old the repositories, even in sid?
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23:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 463] by debhelper
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23:21<chealer>ring2: did you read http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=479659 ?
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23:26<dvs>!ops incoj is /msg spamming
23:26<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: dvs complains about: incoj is /msg spamming
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23:32<ring2>chealer, not until now. looks like a very stuck position, wine is in
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23:51<Xenguy>Debian, I am pissed
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23:59<sidney>anyone here use ultamatix before?
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