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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-03-04

---Logopened Sun Mar 04 00:00:08 2012
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00:00<biologolunar>:O
00:00<Firdaus>maybe because many files png :D
00:00<biologolunar>would be
00:00<biologolunar>I use squeeze
00:00<biologolunar>stable
00:01<Firdaus>biologolunar: l use Wheezy Testing :p
00:01<Firdaus>l like error
00:01<biologolunar>ja ja ja
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00:01<biologolunar>Firdaus: try with Scribus, as suggest by a7ndrew
00:02<Firdaus>!Scribus
00:02<dpkg>Scribus is an open source, cross-platform desktop publishing application. It can produce commerical grade output in PDF and PostScript. http://wiki.scribus.net/ http://www.scribus.net/ #scribus on irc.freenode.net.
00:02<biologolunar>but if there is rigid to explain how to use
00:03<biologolunar>there are good manuals on the web
00:04<Firdaus>biologolunar: l want to GUI
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00:06<biologolunar>Scribus is a GUI
00:08<biologolunar>Firdaus: you have to create multiple pages within Scribus, insertad each image on each one and then save as PDF
00:08<Firdaus>ok
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00:10<biologolunar>Firdaus: also this could be done in OpenOffice (or libre), but not equal, because Scribus is a desktop publishing program similar to Publisher / Corel Draw; gscan2pdf program is ideal, but not in wheezy
00:10<Firdaus>yes
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00:12<biologolunar>Firdaus: that's all I know; perhaps in your case the images are very large
00:12<Firdaus>yes
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00:13<biologolunar>Firdaus: use Scribus
00:14<Firdaus>ok
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00:17<biologolunar>Firdaus: http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Get_Started_with_Scribus ; http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Working_with_image_frames ; http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Working_with_Scribus:_How_to_begin
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00:20<biologolunar>Firdaus: http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Category:Images
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00:47<robbiethe1st>Hey guys, I'm trying to upgrade the radeon OSS driver on my laptop to the version in experimental; upgraded xorg, etc... but X won't start and I get "[kms] drm report modesetting isn't supported". Any ideas on what package I may have missed?
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00:51<cesar>su -c apt-get install apt-rdepends "debian check dependencies"
00:51<cesar>it could work
00:52<cesar>then apt-rdepends packet
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00:54<robbiethe1st>Not sure that'd help me(if that was aimed at me; not sure); apt-get upgraded everything it thought was required already.
00:54<micove>http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
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00:54<ayaka>how to clean all cache?
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00:58<robbiethe1st>Hm... fixed it, somewhat. running 'modprobe radeon' before starting x made x start up properly...
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01:02<robbiethe1st>Interesting. Looks like removing fglrx left /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx...conf file, which blacklisted the radeon module. removing the file solved the problem. Hooray.
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01:06<ayaka>does ext2 only support device less than 4G?
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01:13<micove>ext2 should support file/volume sizes in the TB range
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01:16<Firdaus>how to install grub on debian ?
01:16<Firdaus>l have been remove it
01:17<nima>????????
01:17<nima>"sudo apt-get install grub2" But I'm not sure what you're trying to do
01:18<nima>Firdaus: ^^
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01:28<ayaka>how large does ext2 support?
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01:35<Firdaus>how tu change or edit grub2 on debian
01:35<Firdaus>when l edit and update-grub2 the grub cannot change
01:36<Firdaus>!os-prober
01:36<dpkg>os-prober is a utility for detecting other installed operating systems. http://joey.kitenet.net/code/os-prober/ . See also <grub2 config>.
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02:56<pablo>*/join#windows
02:58<pablo>join/ #ubuntu-it
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02:59<pablo>pablo/join #ubuntu-it
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02:59<SpeedyG>pablo: try /join #ubuntu-it
03:00<SpeedyG>without any spaces, prefixes or anything, just / and then the rest :P
03:00<SpeedyG>(and a space between the command and the channel ofcourse)
03:00<pablo>speedyG: thanks
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03:48<Lukemob>hello there, I'm having trouble using Xen on my Debian Squeeze
03:48<Lukemob>I can create a VM without problem, connect to it, but whenever I try to connect somewhere, it doesn't work
03:49<Lukemob>it can't even ping the host dom0, and from host it's not possible to ping VM domU
03:49<Lukemob>when I try to ping dom0 from VM, it says Host Unreachable
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04:13<ayaka>does mtd-untill need kernel support?
04:14<ayaka>if i don't neither build in nor mod about mtd support in ketnel
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04:20<Eren>how can I tell apt to use the dir I specified like a root directory? I basically want to install a package into a CF-card, which holds stripped squueze
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04:20<Eren> + use apt to manage the packages on CF-card
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04:20<Eren>I was not asking for chroot
04:21<Eren>does apt support this kind of feature?
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04:53<ayaka>Eren see dpkg -h
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05:05*EmleyMoor is about to experiment with openfire - to see if it's worth ditching ejabberd for
05:05*EmleyMoor is a little surprised openfire is not in Debian
05:05<Ganneff>EmleyMoor: go package it.
05:05<Ganneff>but thats a topic for a different channel
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05:05<EmleyMoor>There is already a package
05:06<fasta>EmleyMoor: which version do you want?
05:06<fasta>EmleyMoor: I can install 3.6.3 with one command on Squeeze.
05:06<ayaka>if i don't neither build in nor mod about mtd support in ketnel
05:07<EmleyMoor>3.7.1 is packaged... so I'll probably try that first
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05:30<freezer>hi
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05:31<melmothX>EmleyMoor: i wouldn't reccomend it
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05:40<karatorian>When I try to remove apache2 (as I installed lighttpd instead), APT wants to remove the gnome meta-package. While this dosn't really remove anything, it does put a huge list of stuff into the autoclean list, which I don't want. I looked at the meta-package's deps, but nothing obvious stood out. Any idea what's going on here?
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05:43<karatorian>http://paste.debian.net/158484/
05:45<Ganneff>gnome-user-share is the broken thing that wants it
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05:56<EmleyMoor>melmothX: Any particular reason?
05:56<karatorian>So is there a way I can remove apache and keep the gnome meta-package installed. It probably requires some sort of package system abuse, but I'm prepared for that.
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05:57<melmothX>EmleyMoor: memory hungry (java), random issues (like cpu at 100%). Very slick interface, but I switched to ejabberd and now I'm way more satisfied
05:59<EmleyMoor>melmothX: Well, I'll see how my experiment goes before considering switching my server proper - and if there are any pros I want but can't get in ejabberd, I'll see if you have any advice
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06:10<aymen>salut
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06:14<SDX>Does anyone here know of any way to get fglrx to work correctly with kernel 3.2.9?
06:15<towo`>on 32bit and 3.2.9 fglrx needs a patch
06:15<SDX>I'm on a 64-bit processor. Where can I find this patch?
06:16<towo`>the cpu sayes nothing
06:16<towo`>uname -m sayes what?
06:17<SDX>uname -m output? x86_64
06:17<towo`>then it seems, both arches are affected from the change in 3.2.8
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06:19<SDX>Blah, I'm off then. Thank you, towo.
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06:21<ayaka>does mtd-untill need kernel support?
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06:34<ayaka>does mtd-utilty need kernel support that fomat?
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07:59<Nik05>hey guys
08:00<Nik05>what is the difference between locate and mlocate?
08:00<biologolunar>!mlocate
08:00<dpkg>mlocate (where m == "merging") is locate/updatedb implementation, a replacement for the <locate> and <slocate> tools from lenny onwards. mlocate is clever in that it remembers timestamps on directories so it doesn't need to rebuild the entire database each day. See http://packages.debian.org/mlocate for more information. http://carolina.mff.cuni.cz/~trmac/blog/mlocate
08:01<biologolunar>!locate
08:01<dpkg>locate is a tool for finding files on your hard drive using a precompiled database rather than searching the actual drive using "find" (ask me about <find.cli>). Formerly provided in the findutils package, ask me about <missing locate>; <mlocate> is usually the best option.
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08:01<Nik05>ok and what happens if you have both of them installed
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08:05<EmleyMoor>OK - I am very happy with my test of openfire - but am open to any alternative suggestions on how to get workable Yahoo on ejabberd instead...
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08:06<Eren>although I configured my keyboard and locale with "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration", I cannot use my keyboard properly
08:07<Eren>it's a stripped down debian squeeze setup
08:07<Eren>working on a Qemu environment
08:07<EmleyMoor>Eren: What's wrong with it?
08:08<Eren>EmleyMoor: although I set, I see funny charhacters when I type Turkish letters
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08:09<EmleyMoor>Have you rebooted?
08:09<Eren>no
08:09<Eren>should I?
08:10<EmleyMoor>Well, I didn't get the right punctuation on mine until I did - I set up with US Dvorak and changed to UK Dvorak.
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08:10<Eren>no lock after restart
08:10<polix>hi everybody :)
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08:41<Eren>EmleyMoor: console-data was missing
08:41<Eren>after installing and dpkg-reconfiguring everything, it was fixed
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08:47<ayaka>does mtd-utillity need kernel support?
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09:37<ayaka>does mtd-utillity need kernel support?
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09:51<squeeze9>i am playing a video on youtube and pulseaudio is taking up 100% CPU
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09:51<squeeze9>Debian Squeeze/Iceweasel
09:52<squeeze9>Iceweasel 8.0
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09:52<squeeze9>isn't it too high?
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10:11<gregoire>hi I am having troubles with DNS resoltion, I can ping the ip of google but I can't ping www.google.com any Idea how to configure it?
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10:14<cesar>install bind9
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10:15<gregoire>But I don't have internet
10:15<gregoire>is it on the disk?
10:15<Nik05>you dont have internet...
10:15<Nik05>and you want to ping google.com?
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10:16<cesar>my blue ass
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10:16<gregoire>sry not what i mean... Sinc I have no dns resolution I can't use apt-get
10:17<cesar>http://8.8.8.8
10:17<cesar>download it
10:17<Nik05>8.8.8.8 is google...
10:18<cesar>debian bind9
10:18<themill>gregoire: what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf
10:18<gregoire>I have no resolv.conf
10:20<Nik05>lol
10:20<gregoire>Maybe I should use nsswitch.conf
10:20<themill>gregoire: how are you connecting to the internet/local network? An ADSL modem that's doing DHCP? Static IP?
10:20<gregoire>Static Ip on a local network
10:21<themill>gregoire: and do you have a dhcp server on that local network?
10:21<Nik05>ifconfig?
10:21<gregoire>yes But I wanted a static ip
10:21<gregoire>I have filled the /etc/network/interfaces file
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10:22<themill>gregoire: sorry, I meant to ask "do you have a dns server on that local network?"
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10:24<gregoire>Well that's a box, but I think so
10:24<gregoire>this computer sends its dns requests to the gateway
10:24<themill>gregoire: you can add "nameserver 192.168.0.1" (replace that IP with your local nameserver) to your /etc/resolv.conf
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10:25<gregoire>but this file doesn't exist should I create it?
10:25<themill>yes
10:25<gregoire>ok
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10:26<kommissar>hi, I have a powerpc system that has an LSI SAS1064 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS controller in it. I think it uses the mptsas kernel module, but this module is not in the powerpc live cd
10:27<kommissar>is there any way that i can get it in the live cd, or make a live cd that includes it?
10:27<gregoire>themill, Do I need to have resolv to be installed?
10:27<gregoire>themill, you are good
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10:28<gregoire>themill, it works
10:28<gregoire>themill, thank you :)
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10:29<themill>gregoire: no worries. Happy hunting
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10:33<mplik>alow
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10:45<chenno>hi
10:46<chenno>noob
10:46<chenno>irc noob here
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10:46<chenno>any good graphical irc clients on debian?
10:47<eightyeight>yes
10:47<dvs>xchat
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10:47<chenno>suitable for a newbie, programs starting with 'x' tend to be criptic...
10:47<chenno>will try xchat anyway, thanks
10:47<dvs>chenno: not this one
10:47<eightyeight>quassel starts with a 'q'. what does that mean?
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10:48<themill>quirky
10:48<ratnick>or QT
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10:48<chenno>'q' used to mean 'Qt', 'k' used to be 'KDE' and 'g' 'GNOME', but in this crazy world nothing is sure anymore
10:49<ratnick>w?
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10:49<eightyeight>then of course, there is chatzilla, which starts with a 'c'. that must mean CDE?
10:49<chenno>hmmm window?
10:49<ratnick>mozilla group
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10:49<ratnick>MS
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10:50<ratnick>an mangle of corporation and languages
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10:50<ayaka>what is difference between zimge and vmlinuz
10:51<ratnick>3?
10:51<eightyeight>never heard of zimge. what is it?
10:51<chenno>I have learnt my lesson. never trust initials anymore, people!
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10:51<chenno>xchat seems nice enough, thanks
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10:51<dvs>chenno: np
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10:51<ratnick>i 'm using epic4
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10:53<chenno>I wanted to ask information about git-python, but nobody seems to be around their freenode channel
10:54<chenno>pity
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10:55<ratnick>no response is often I don't know
10:55<eightyeight>ayaka: if you are referring to 'zImage', then it's just a filename. nothing more.
10:55<eightyeight>ayaka: traditionally, the kernel was compressed with zlib, lzma or bzip2. to show that the image is compressed, the 'z' was added to the filename
10:56<eightyeight>ayaka: thus, 'vmlinuz' versus 'vmlinux' and 'zImage' versus 'Image'
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10:56<eightyeight>other than that, it's a filename
10:56<ayaka>eightyeight but vmlinuz is also a filename
10:56<eightyeight>correct
10:57<ayaka>zimage means what kind of compression?
10:57<eightyeight>i already told you
10:57<eightyeight>run file(1) on the image to see how it was compressed
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10:58<chenno>Debian never disappoints me, thanks guys! you are the best free software community around.
10:58<chenno>exit
10:59<chenno>oops, stupid exit reflex
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10:59<ratnick>human!
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11:03<ratnick>undo, undo!
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11:18<ayaka>eightyeight thank you
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11:24<ivo888>Hi,
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11:24<ivo888>something strange happen with my iceweasel :(
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11:24<ivo888>i have some open tabs. and i close iceweasel ( i do it every day), but now i open it again
11:25<ivo888>and there isn`t tabs :(
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11:26<ratnick>/Iceweasel/Eedit/Preferences/Tabs
11:26<ivo888>yes
11:26<ivo888>open tabs from last time....
11:27<salamander>Hello, I cant change the fonts on my console. I was reading /msg dpkg fonts and everithing that comes from there and i still cant figure out how to do it. The problem is that the fonts are too small
11:27<ivo888>it work from weeks ago. but now it is empty :(
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11:29<ratnick>ivan`: add-ons
11:29<ratnick>ivo888: addons?
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11:30<ivo888>what about them?
11:30<mekt>If not using the Gnome greeter, how can you get the password management working for Evolution or Gnome applications?
11:31<ratnick>they affect usage
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11:31<Lukemob>hello, I've got such a problem
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11:32<Lukemob>HVM guest's don't receive ARP replies, dom0 without problem.. but domU sends only requests.. no replies
11:32<Lukemob>anybody knows what could be causing it
11:33<ratnick>geek to me
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11:35<ratnick>mekt: probably removed a dependency
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11:36<ivo888>if there is running iceweasel should this command show it: ps ax |grep iceweasel
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11:40<ratnick>process list?
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11:41<Eren>is there anyone who has a 32bit machine which have sid on it?
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11:42<abrotman>Eren: lots of poeple, ask your real question
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11:42<ivo888>yes. i want see is there running iceweasel
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11:43<Eren>I was going to kindly request to build a package, I only have 64bit architecture
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11:49<machinchose>Hi I have an error when running apt-get update, it says Invalid message from method http ftp.debian.org
11:49<machinchose>any idea?
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11:51<ratnick>ivo888: I'd look in the bash man for commands
11:52<ivo888>for which command?
11:52<ratnick>a process listing command
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11:53<ratnick>ivo888: Gnome System Monitor has a running process list
11:54<melmothX>ratnick: ps auxf
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11:55<ratnick>ivo888: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
11:56<melmothX>ivo888: you're looking for "firefox-bin" running
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11:57<melmothX>ivo888: or ps auxf
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12:35<olesea>hello
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12:35<olesea>guys...i use gnome3 on debian, and i have some troubles....
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12:36<jhutchins_lt>Possibly because gnome3 is not finished or stable?
12:36<olesea>gnome shell crashes every time i try to search some application...
12:36<REalm>You upgraded nvidia drivers
12:36<olesea>yes
12:36<REalm>and they have a bug
12:36<olesea>hmm...
12:36<babilen>olesea: Please join #debian-next and AFAIK this is a known issue. At least others mentioned it earlier. Please search the bts for applicable bugs.
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12:36<olesea>how can I downgrade the nvidia driver?
12:37<olesea>babilen, ok
12:37<olesea>thx guys
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12:37<babilen>olesea: You just manually install other packages -- But please make sure that they are actually the culprit. This bug should have been reported
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12:51<canaima>hola como estas
12:52<biologolunar>!es
12:52<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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12:57<machinchose>Hi I have an error when running apt-get update, it says Invalid message from method http ftp.debian.org
12:57<machinchose>any idea?
12:58<ratnick>check your sources.list file
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13:00<machinchose>what should be in that file?
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13:01<babilen>!tell machinchose -about bat
13:01<babilen>!tell machinchose -about make squeeze sources.list
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13:02<ratnick>or,
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13:02<ratnick>http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
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13:03<machinchose>ok thank you
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13:05<themill>ratnick: please do not recommend that site to people
13:05<ratnick>?
13:06<themill>ratnick: it encourages people to mix in lots of 3rd party repositories with extremely poor quality packages in them and doesn't help them assess the sanity or security of doing so
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13:06<ratnick>ah so. will not do
13:07<ratnick>the-dude: I agree and sorry
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13:12<Kellin>a 'nologin' account is an account that uses a shell such as /usr/sbin/nologin. The guides I read all show /etc/passwd as having a * in the second column (which say it stands for no login). In my /etc/passwd, I see regular accounts with an 'x' which I know means password is in /etc/shadow. Does Debian not do the * in this column, or am I missing something about nologin accounts?
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14:01<dpkg>Canaima is a Venezuelan desktop distribution <based on Debian>. It is not supported in #debian. http://canaima.softwarelibre.gob.ve/ #canaima on irc.freenode.net.
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14:02<biologolunar>ok, sorry!
14:04<biologolunar>2.6.32-5-amd64
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14:26<carlos>hi
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14:28<nyov>does anyone know about a vdr irc channel? for the vdr pvr software
14:29<nyov>this piece'o makes me crazy
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14:31<nyov>or maybe someone here knows how to make it /NOT/ grab all my dvb frontends?
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14:42<Sebboh>Debian runs a bittorrent tracker, presumably primarily for installer CD torrents. The debian-installer team provides .torrent downloads for the daily-built CD images.. These .torrents are set up to use bttracker.debian.org ... But the tracker running there REJECTS the daily CD image torrents. See? The left hand doesn't know what the right is doing.
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14:43<Sebboh>I don't know the right place to report this. If you know how to report this bug/misconfiguration, please copy/paste my report and send it along. Otherwise, nothing.. Have a good day!
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15:11<biologolunar>!bttracker
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15:14<biologolunar>possible bug/misconfiguration on bttracker (mentioned by <Sebboh>), already been reported to debian-cd at lists.debian.org
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16:39<peppe>!list
16:39<dpkg>peppe: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
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16:57<cjk>is it possible to use the testing (wheezy) install cd to install a stable (squeeze) system? the testing install CD has kernel modules I need not on the stable install CD.
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18:49<voodoo>hi everyone... would like to know why the battery in linux lasts less than in windows...and if it could be fixed...:S
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18:52<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, linux is closed
18:53<voodoo>what??
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19:11<brisket>hi could someone direct me to a how to to configure the name daemon?
19:12<garn32>bisket, are you looking for named?
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19:13<garn32>brisket, try http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch6/mydomain.html
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19:18<biologolunar>!dbndns
19:18<biologolunar>:O
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19:27<abrotman>biologolunar: djbdns ?
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19:28<biologolunar>abrotman: yes, thank you, only reading
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19:29<abrotman>voogrrr
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19:32<biologolunar>abrotman: in any form, djbdns or dbndns are not precompiled for squeeze, and has no manual, but several webpages scattered, but I think that's enough
19:33<abrotman>fo rwho ?
19:33<biologolunar>it will be for my, :)
19:34<abrotman>uh ok
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19:34<biologolunar>I find it very difficult bind9
19:35<garn32>I don't think that its that bad
19:35<garn32>it just takes some time to get used to
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19:44<qkzoo>I am running Mepis with the LXDE desktop, whereupon I installed network-manager-gnome. Everything works fine, but network-manager doesn't remember passwords, so every time I begin a new session I have to re authenticate. Any ideas?
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19:51<biologolunar>!mepis
19:51<dpkg>MEPIS is a live CD distribution based on Debian. SimplyMEPIS 11 (based on Squeeze), SimplyMEPIS 8.0/8.5 (based on Lenny) and antiX (based on <testing>) are not supported in #debian. http://www.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
19:51<abrotman>he left
19:52<biologolunar>je je
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19:56<qkzoo> I am running Mepis with the LXDE desktop, whereupon I installed network-manager-gnome. Everything works fine, but network-manager doesn't remember passwords, so every time I begin a new session I have to re authenticate. Any ideas?
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19:59<abrotman>qkzoo: Come on .. I just told you that you were off-topic on freenode, please use #mepis on freenode
19:59<qkzoo>whoops, sorry abrot, wrong window, apologies!
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20:25<philsf>lol
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20:38<biologolunar>:)
20:38<garn32>(Q"Q)
20:40<biologolunar>I will do my best to help those in need, as long as I know how, I use Debian since 2007. I love this
20:41<biologolunar>je je
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20:50<prahal2>hi is there a way to encode dvd without debian multimedia repo ?
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20:51<prahal2>I use fluendo dvd player to watch them though they do not provide an encoding alternative
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20:51<abrotman>prahal2: dvdauthor? never tried
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21:27<ratnick>from iceweasel error console for start page: nsURLFormatterService exposes methods to substitute variables in URL formats.
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21:28<ratnick>ns is nameserver
21:28<ratnick>?
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21:32<ratnick>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595394
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21:36<ratnick>toggle javascript?
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21:39*ratnick toggled all advanced javascript settings off. had this problem in another mozilla product for win32
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21:41<ratnick>also: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430235
21:42<salamander> [23:42] [salamander(+i)] [2:debian/#debian(+clnt)] [Act: 3]
21:42<salamander> [23:42] [salamander(+i)] [2:debian/#debian(+clnt)] [Act: 3]
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21:48<salamander>hello people
21:48<HighBomber>howdy
21:49<salamander>I'v just installed debian etch, Xorg, gdm, xfce in that order. My problem now is that, when I had no X the VT0 font size where ok, now they are way too small and I dont know how to change that
21:50<salamander>I have tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and it does not work
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21:51<ratnick>system config file somewhere
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21:53<ratnick>I did this: removed xfce and used another window manager
21:53<salamander>ratnick: that file is the one im looking for
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21:53<salamander>I like xfce
21:53<garn32>checkout fluxbox
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21:54<ratnick>maybe gconf I'm not sure. I'm not that advanced to be changing files internally.
21:54<salamander>why not xfce
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21:55<ratnick>It has limitations. I had problems accessing my removable drives
21:56<salamander>that should not be a problem of the DE
21:56<garn32>that sounds like an issue of setting up HAL correctly
21:56<salamander>it is a mounting problem
21:57<ratnick>I didn't fix it. Just reloaded an OS
21:57<ratnick>openbox I used
21:57<TCW>salamander, Debian etch?!
21:58<ratnick>different releases use different kernels
21:59<salamander>TCW: sorry, squeeze
21:59<TCW>salamander, ahh :)
21:59<ratnick>same page
21:59<TCW>salamander, so I guess the smaller font is due to KMS... what gfx hardware do you have there?
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22:00<salamander>TCW: gfx hardware would be ati radeon 9700pro.
22:00<ratnick>I'll gues a non-free driver
22:00<TCW>ratnick, probably wrong guess
22:01*ratnick shuts up
22:01<TCW>salamander, I see... would you mind checking? ;)
22:01<TCW>the thing... KMS, you know what that is?
22:02<salamander>TCW: sorry, but Im not following. gfx is my graphics card hardare isnt it? if yes, it is the 9700pro
22:02<salamander>TCW: kms, no I dont know, man -k kms now
22:02<TCW>salamander, "KMS" is a feature... "Kernel Mode Setting" google it
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22:03<TCW>salamander, and up to now I only *guess* your font is smaller as you wish because of KMS
22:03<TCW>console font that is, right?
22:03<salamander>yes, right
22:04<salamander>im googling it right now
22:04<TCW>And I never bothered changing the KMS resolution as 80x25 (the default without KMS or framebuffer) is worse imho :)
22:05<TCW>but it is possible... just understand that KMS is a frambuffer, more or less, so it has a Resolution like 1024x768 or whatever fits the display best
22:06<salamander> squeeze (6.0.4) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | lenny EOL 2012-02-06 /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze ; /msg dpkg 5.0.9 |
22:06<salamander>23:54 < ratnick> maybe gconf I'm not sure. I'm not that advanced to be changing files internally.
22:06<salamander>23:54 < salamander> why not xfce
22:06<salamander>23:54 -!- _V_ [~V@180-94-112-83.aptel.com.au] has quit []
22:06<salamander>23:55 < ratnick> It has limitations. I had problems accessing my removable drives
22:06<salamander>23:56 < salamander> that should not be a problem of the DE
22:06<salamander>23:56 < salamander> it is a mounting problem
22:06<salamander>23:56 < garn32> that sounds like an issue of setting up HAL correctly
22:06<salamander>23:57 < ratnick> I didn't fix it. Just reloaded an OS
22:06<salamander>23:57 < ratnick> openbox I used
22:06<salamander>23:57 < TCW> salamander, Debian etch?!
22:06<TCW>salamander, ehm? :)
22:06<salamander>23:58 < ratnick> different releases use different kernels
22:06<salamander>23:59 < salamander> TCW: sorry, squeeze
22:06<salamander>23:59 < TCW> salamander, ahh :)
22:06<salamander>23:59 < ratnick> same page
22:06<salamander>23:59 < TCW> salamander, so I guess the smaller font is due to KMS... what gfx hardware do you have there?
22:06<salamander>Day changed to 05 mar 2012
22:06<salamander>00:00 -!- mode/#debian [+l 487] by debhelper
22:07<salamander>00:00 < salamander> TCW: gfx hardware would be ati radeon 9700pro.
22:07<salamander>00:00 < ratnick> I'll gues a non-free driver
22:07<salamander>00:00 < TCW> ratnick, probably wrong guess
22:07<salamander>00:01 * ratnick shuts up
22:07<salamander>00:01 < TCW> salamander, I see... would you mind checking? ;)
22:07<salamander>00:01 < TCW> the thing... KMS, you know what that is?
22:07<TCW>salamander, would you mind killing your IRC client? :)
22:07<salamander>00:02 < salamander> TCW: sorry, but Im not following. gfx is my graphics card hardare isnt it? if yes, it is the
22:07<salamander> 9700pro
22:07<salamander>00:02 < salamander> TCW: kms, no I dont know, man -k kms now
22:07<salamander>00:03 < TCW> salamander, "KMS" is a feature... "Kernel Mode Setting" google it
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22:07<salamander>00:03 < TCW> salamander, and up to now I only *guess* your font is smaller as you wish because of KMS
22:07<salamander>00:03 < TCW> console font that is, right?
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22:07<retro|blah>or /flush
22:07<salamander>00:04 < salamander> yes, right
22:07<salamander>00:04 < salamander> im googling it right now
22:07<salamander>00:04 < TCW> And I never bothered changing the KMS resolution as 80x25 (the default without KMS or framebuffer)
22:07<salamander> is worse imho :)
22:07<salamander>00:05 < TCW> but it is possible... just understand that KMS is a frambuffer, more or less, so it has a
22:07<salamander> Resolution like 1024x768 or whatever fits the display best
22:07<salamander> [00:06] [salamander(+i)] [2:debian/#debian(+clnt)]
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22:07<salamander>[#debian] sorry
22:07<salamander>TCW: =/
22:07<salamander>irssi
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22:08<salamander>TCW: im reading about kms now, I feel this is the right path =). /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf
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22:09<TCW>salamander, the documentation should be helpful there :)
22:09<TCW>salamander, but do not disable KMS
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22:10<salamander>TCW: I was just about to do that LOL. I already have to read about what is a frambuffer, =P
22:10<eightyeight>any idea where to find the PGP key for debian-live@, except for public PGP key servers? i'm failing to locate it through http://keyring.debian.org
22:10<TCW>radeon depends on KMS nowadays. May not be the truth for squeeze, but it is the future, so disableing it would not help much
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22:10<eightyeight>(0x6CA7B5A6 for <debian-live@lists.debian.org>, that is)
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22:12<TCW>salamander, at least 3D will not work without KMS... btw. UMS (user mode setting) is the opposite and the "classic" console thing we had for ages on our boxes. KMS is the new thing and most gfx hardware did switch to KMS X-driver-wise, so UMS is not an option anymore or with squeeze+1
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22:13<ratnick>fbterm?
22:13<TCW>so you could try and disable KMS, it may work for squeeze... but onwords I am sure it will break your X11
22:13<salamander>TCW: thanx, now I know where to read.
22:14<TCW>salamander, btw. is that a laptop?
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22:15<salamander>TCW: no, a desktop pc. athlon xp 2700 on a msi motherboard, ati radeon 9700pro, ide disc, samsung syncmaster CRT monitor
22:15<salamander>new equipment =)
22:16<TCW>state of the art! :)
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22:22<TCW>salamander, oh... I did suggest changing the KMS resolution? Sorry, just change the console font... way better as if you change the resolution a modechange when going to X11 will be necessarry and that is something KMS tries to avoid ;)
22:22<TCW>brb
22:22<salamander>ok
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22:24<salamander>TCW: change the console font is what Im trying to do, I will keep reading at google =)
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23:12<salamander>Chromium and html5, what showld I do?
23:13<salamander>Im trying to watch a video in youtube
23:14<ratnick>salamander: I'm now using roxterm. has a lot of tweaking options.
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23:19<TCW>salamander, got the kms console font changed?
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23:23<salamander>TCW: no, I bookmarked a web page with explanations and lost focus to html5 issue on chromium =P
23:23<salamander>TCW: sorry, bad student I am
23:24<TCW>salamander, would you mind showing that link?
23:24<salamander>wiki.debian.org/kernelModesetting
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23:27<salamander>TCW: im reading it now, i cant find no usefull information, i'll keep looking. I cant fu...ing keep the focus on one thing
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23:29<TCW>salamander, don't bother... I was just getting curious how the debian way would be or if it differs much from other distros.
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23:30<salamander>TCW: im into it now, lost interest in html5
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23:32<salamander>TCW: miss salamander is calling, it is 1:30am here. Is there a place where I can post my progress so you can check my mistakes later on??
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23:35<TCW>salamander, i said "don't bother", not that important for me... if you'd had a sensible link around I would have read it... but if not, no harm done :)
23:36<TCW>salamander, but consider adding some info about kms font changing in the debian wiki
23:36<ratnick>do later?
23:36<ratnick>sorry. leaving
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23:37<salamander>TCW: ok, thank you for your help
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