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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-03-12

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00:24<dontput>nybody home?
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00:54<drwarner>would one of you kindly point me in the direction of XBMC support?
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01:08<ratnick>Where are the GStreamer elements: lame and xvidenc?
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01:22<ratnick>Bug #365514 in Arista Transcoder:...
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01:25<ratnick>thanks again :}
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01:29<hymen00>i have a couple questions regarding a bash script
01:31<hymen00>is there anyone who can answer some of my questions?
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01:37<TaZeR>hey do u guys have any hints on how to make my debian better?
01:37<TaZeR>oh and my google chrome always dissapears
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01:47<hymen00>here is pretty much the idea of the scrip
01:47<hymen00>*script
01:48<hymen00>ask for # of people
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01:48<hymen00>add "<name></name>" to file # of times
01:49<hymen00>add names from list to each <name></name> statement
01:51<hymen00>ive got something in mind using sed but how can i make the program run N # of times
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02:33<WhyWhyWhy>debian is the best fuckin os in the world
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02:48<canaima>...
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02:58<WhyWhyWhy>hey anyone know how to make it stop asking me everytime i open a text file
02:58<WhyWhyWhy>weather to display it or run it in terminal...
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03:01<alexander>Hi, I have the following situation: vpnc installed and running with an fulltunnel configuration file, but the full tunnel does not work,. How can I route all traffic through the vpn adapter? (Debian 3.2.0-1-amd64 testing)
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03:16<arinov__>how to make gtk gui same as qt?
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03:27<withheld>Why does grub2 exist...ugh....can someone help me do something really simple, add vga=791 to one of the entires? -.-
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03:30<jm_>withheld: did you check /etc/default/grub? one other note - make sure to use linux16 command to load a kernel and pass options or vga= won't work
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03:31<withheld>jm_, I don't know how to do this with /etc/default/grub , also what do you mean linux16?
03:31<Zaba>or stop using that legacy stuff and set GRUB_GFXMODE!
03:31<jm_>withheld: read the comments about gfxmode in there
03:31<Zaba>(and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX)
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03:33<jm_>withheld: info grub -> Configuration -> Simple configuration for more info
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03:34<withheld>Zaba, ah, I figured that was grubs configuration itself
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03:35<samy>test
03:35<Zaba>withheld, gfxpayload IIRC sets the one used by linux
03:36<Zaba>withheld, and if you set gfxpayload to keep, it will keep the one from gfxmode, which is the resolution used by grub
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04:01<macfreak>regarding speed issues on pptp vpn what to look for in tcpdump ?
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04:38<hymen0000>how can i search for a string and duplicate that line n times after it?
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04:46<jm_>hymen0000: search for a string where?
04:46<hymen0000>in a file
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04:47<jm_>you can use grep/perl (perl makes it trivial to repeat the string)
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04:49<hymen0000>lets say i have a string "<name></name>" in file foo.xml
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04:49<hymen0000>can i used sed to search for that line and then duplicate the line n times?
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04:50<hymen0000>or could you show me how to do that with grep/perl?
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04:51<hymen0000>im a newbie btw so please forgive me if it takes me a while
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04:55<jm_>hold on
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04:59<jm_>perl -ne 'if (/<name>/) { print $_ x 10 }'
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05:10<ansgar>Though regular experssions are not the right way to handle xml.
05:11<jm_>indeed
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05:17<freezer>morning
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05:23<hymen0000>jm: works great. thanks so much
05:24<jm_>hymen0000: no worries
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06:02<luxius>Hey. I just did 'sudo apt-get install ssh' and edited the files 'ssh_config' and 'sshd_config' ... but I can't connect from PuTTY. Is there an easy way to conf the new package?
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06:05<jm_>why can't you connect?
06:06<luxius>I don't know
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06:06<luxius>maybe I am connecting wrong, but nothing shows up in the terminal window
06:06<weasel>what did you edit?
06:06<weasel>is sshd running?
06:06<luxius>dunno xD
06:06<luxius>hang on
06:07<luxius>how do I do a ps command for a specific service?
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06:07<weasel>pipe it through grep
06:08<weasel>| grep sshd
06:08<weasel>(or use pgrep, but..)
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06:08<luxius>uhm, full command?
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06:09<weasel>ps xauf | grep sshd
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06:09<luxius>root 1058 0.0 0.0 49692 528 ? Ss Mar11 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
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06:13<luxius>weasel, http://pastebin.com/M7yxFnb5
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06:15<luxius>Hey. I just did 'sudo apt-get install ssh' and edited the files 'ssh_config' and 'sshd_config' ... but I can't connect from PuTTY. Is there an easy way to conf the new package?
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06:16<luxius>sshd_config: http://pastebin.com/M7yxFnb5
06:16<weasel>can you ssh from the machine itself?
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06:19<luxius>haven't tried yet
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06:19<wapa>ola soy alicia la wapa
06:20<luxius>yes, it works perfectly
06:20<luxius>asked me if I wanted to get the key
06:20<wapa>whta??????
06:20<luxius>weasel, I think I have some firewall installed, but I don't know what xD
06:20<luxius>weasel, if you could help me identify it, I would be grateful
06:21<luxius>and I can mention I have touched UWF once, I remember
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06:21<weasel>sorry, no time to handhold you through fixing weird network setups
06:21<luxius>never mind, just thought there'd be an "easy" way to scan for the bug
06:21<luxius>I can fix it myself, I know TCP/IP
06:21<luxius>but I'm a linux newb
06:21<luxius>so I don't know the system
06:22<weasel>tcpdump and iptables might be useful tools. good luck.
06:22<luxius>thanks
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06:31<ubu8_>#steiber
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06:33<ubu8>#SteinerWijgmaal
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06:38<andrea>hello
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06:39<Guest5969>does anyone uses debian 64 on an imac machine?
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06:40<Guest5969>I have problems while triyng to set up a wi-fi connection
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06:41<Guest5969>I think I need the driver Atheros AR9388Ai1A 802.11n wireless lan chip
06:41<Guest5969>does anyone know how to find it? It works?
06:42<Guest5969>Is there any other suitable driver?
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06:44<devil>Guest5969: can we have the pci-id of that chip? lspci -nn will show it
06:45<Guest5969>ok, thanks, I try
06:46<Guest5969>03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9300 Wireless LAN adaptor [168c:0030] (rev 01)
06:46<devil>right,
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06:46<devil>Guest5969: http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k
06:48<Guest5969>Thanks, I will try. and hopefully it works.
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07:01<hymen0000>how can i tell sed to replace each new line with a new variable
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07:33<Golfgeo>Hi all
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07:36<Golfgeo>installed Squeeze 6.0.4 on softraid twice (first time I messed it up but it did boot), but after now it won't boot after verifying DMI pool data...
07:37<Golfgeo>*but now
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07:37<Golfgeo>I made sure all drives were synced before I rebooted into the fresh install
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07:40<jm_>try using different kernel options
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07:40<Golfgeo>jm_: that one for me?
07:41<jm_>Golfgeo: yup
07:42<Golfgeo>k, well, I don't even get to the point of me being able to select grub or kernel options...
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07:42<jm_>so that's a message from BIOS?
07:43<Golfgeo>I believe so
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07:44<Golfgeo>I have /boot on first partition and that's on md0 in Raid 1
07:45<Golfgeo>after the first install I whiped the disks completely since I was getting some wierd mbr problems reinstalling...
07:45<Golfgeo>Not this is the defacto result...
07:45<Golfgeo>*now
07:46<Golfgeo>reproduced the error 3 times
07:46<jm_>try unplugging the disks then
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07:46<Golfgeo>hmm
07:47<Golfgeo>Could it be I'm using reiserfs on the /boot partition?
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07:47<jm_>i don't see why that would matter as long as boot loader can load its code
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07:47<Golfgeo>idd
07:47<Golfgeo>one never knows though haha
07:47<Golfgeo>well, without error messages eh :D
07:48<Golfgeo>swapping disk 1 for disk 2 was the next thing I was going to try
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07:51<Golfgeo>btw, do I need to have a separate /boot raid to be able to boot?
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07:52<Golfgeo>Normaly on a single disk install I install the partitions in this order: [/][/home][swap]
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07:58<Golfgeo>jm_: I unplugged and replugged... No change... What I did do differently is from the first install is that I went from .5 gb to a 1 gb /boot "partition" size...
07:59<Golfgeo>oh yea, tried booting between unplugging and replugging ;)
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08:00<jm_>Golfgeo: are you saying it still hangs with the same message even if all disks are unplugged?
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08:01<Golfgeo>jm_: didn't unplug all disks, disk 1 and then disk 1 & 2
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08:01<Golfgeo>I can however boot to usbstick
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08:02<jm_>Golfgeo: check if it "hangs" after it reads from a disk, if so, I would overwrite first 50MB of each disk with zeros
08:02<Golfgeo>you want me to basicly check my disk controller or the opperational functionality of the entire pc?
08:03<jm_>no, I am assuming it's reading some crap from the disk and executing that, but it's just a guess
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08:03<jm_>perhaps ##hardware on irc.freenode.net might have better ideas
08:04<Golfgeo>jm_: k, well I shreded the disks after the every failed reinstall... dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
08:04<Golfgeo>x was a, b, c and d
08:04<jm_>Golfgeo: ok then I'm affraid I'm out of ideas
08:05<Golfgeo>I think... think! It might indeed be unable to read the binary code in the first partition...
08:05<Golfgeo>since I've sized it larger than before...
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08:06<Golfgeo>you think the first 50 mb would be oke?
08:06<Golfgeo>crapper, lagacy hardware
08:06<Golfgeo>Alway's giving me headackes haha
08:07<jm_>it's overkill to just wipe the boot loader
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08:08<Golfgeo>idd, but who knows... read somewhere that softraid writes it to the end of the "/boot" partition... And since it's 1 gig large now, I might be running into the first xxx mb's for the boot loader
08:08<Golfgeo>well within xxx mb's
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08:09<jm_>are disks marked as raid in bios?
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08:10<Golfgeo>Nope
08:10<Golfgeo>found a quote: the boot loader must be within the 1024th cylinder
08:11<Golfgeo>and if mdadm writes it to the end of the first gig it might just be outside of it...
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08:12<Golfgeo>So, I'll try again (pfff) with a smaller partition
08:12<Golfgeo>thought 1 gig sounded nice, but for sure it's overkill
08:13<jm_>nowadays I believe this shouldn't matter due to LBA access
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08:14<jm_>but yeah, worth trying
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08:15<Golfgeo>this is a 2003 machine... A P4 @ 2.66 mHz and IDE drives of 41.??? gigs
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08:16<Golfgeo>well pre 2003 machine, since the last BIOS update is dates 2003
08:16<jm_>ok in that case it's more likely to matter
08:18<Golfgeo>Hope so, otherwise I'm kinda lost haha
08:18<Golfgeo>dd'ing the disks entirely now
08:18<Golfgeo>time for some coffee pots of coffee whahaha
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08:19<Golfgeo>Thanks for your help mate :-)
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08:22<jm_>no worries
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08:44<ayaka>which kind of root path i can set in grub2 sent to kernel
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08:45<jm_>what do you mean which kind?
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08:46<ayaka>does all the block device in /dev is avaliable?
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08:47<jm_>no, only what's available when it's used
08:48<ayaka>jm_ can't understand kernel can't set root in any devices?
08:49<ayaka>just accept the devices in /dev or can accept devices /dev/block/
08:49<jm_>ayaka: kernel doesn't set root, it uses root path to mount / there
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08:49<ayaka>jm_ yes i means that
08:50<ayaka>jm_ does the devices after booted is in /dev/block/ can be choose as /
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08:52<jm_>ayaka: as long as they are available at that time yes
08:52<jm_>(and you probably don't want loop devices from that list)
08:52<ayaka>how does it come rootfs on / type rootfs (ro,relatime)
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08:52<ayaka>it is outpuy of mount
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08:54<jm_>looks like initramfs or somesuch
08:54<dorfle>thank you thank you for my operating system
08:55<ayaka>jm_ yes,but in pc, i wouldn't see this
08:56<jm_>ayaka: you'll need to inspect what it does then - on your PC it mounts real / when it's all done (pivot_root etc.)
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08:57<ayaka>jm_ i am in a arm mobile, but how it comes that, is it possible do the same in pc?
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08:57<jm_>ayaka: yes
08:58<dorfle>ayaka: what device?
08:58<ayaka>dorfle htc evo 3d gsm
08:58<ayaka>jm_ could you tell me how to
08:58<dorfle>i need a keyboard - 4200mAh n900 for me
08:59<jm_>ayaka: create an initramfs image and boot with it
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09:00<ayaka>jm_ just that? so my squeeze will show that, it is possible to cross create a initrd?
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09:01<dorfle>pop quiz: why bomb/embargo Iran?
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09:01<jm_>ayaka: it will be easier if you take an existing one to experiment
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09:03<ayaka>jm_ yes i have a one for old kernel, so i can use it boot a kernel, and if i use initramfs, do i still need to defind which device will be mount on /?
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09:04<jm_>ayaka: with regular initrd for a distribution like debian that's a yes, because that's its job - to mount real /
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09:05<jm_>granted, you can choose not to, but then you'll just get an error
09:05<ayaka>jm_ as you siad before i can do that in pc, but it works here
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09:07<ayaka>jm_ and do you means initrd will mount the rootfs sent in bootloader
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09:07<jm_>ayaka: I haven't really inspected what the on used by debian does, but something like that
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09:09<ayaka>jm_ so in debian, it wouldn't show rootfs on / type rootfs (ro,relatime)
09:10<jm_>ayaka: no, it would show a real device
09:11<ayaka>jm_ i see, but do you know how to let it work like that?
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09:12<jm_>ayaka: man pivot_root
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09:13<ayaka>jm_ ok i will see it in internet
09:15<ayaka>jm_ the 2 or 8?
09:15<jm_>actually now that I look at it, this may be wrong and perhaps remount in /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh causes this
09:15<jm_>would be simple to check though
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09:16<jm_>ayaka: both I guess, but see above
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09:18<ayaka>jm_ but i don't have that init sh
09:18<jm_>ayaka: which init sh?
09:18<jm_>ahh no I was referring to where in debian it might cause the change in output
09:19<ayaka>jm_ checkroot.sh
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09:20<ayaka>in fact i don't even know where is the partition it stored kernel, even i can flash it in fastboot
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09:24<ayaka>jm_ my problem is how to boot, kernel vmlinuz and userspace programs have been done, just i can't send any arg to kernel in fastboot, or it will only show htc, if no arg, it will boot into android, how does your future arm HPC do that if you want to mount a / from sdcard
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09:26<jm_>ayaka: I have no idea about boot process on ARM, surely some details can be found on the net
09:27<jm_>ayaka: I will see how to get it to work with my USB thumb drive once I get it, I won't bother until then
09:27<ayaka>jm_ yes but few of fastboot thank you, then just think it is a x86 pc
09:29<jm_>but even then, the difference may be quite big since mine is meant to be an open device, unlike most android phones
09:29<ayaka>jm_ and have prepared some info about arm
09:29<ayaka>jm_ yes, but the one way for me is just try
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09:30<jm_>ayaka: no doubt :)
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09:32<ayaka>jm_ which one the second sentences?
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09:33<jm_>ayaka: "one way for me is just try"
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09:34<ayaka>jm_ ok, so just tell me , it maybe work
09:34<ayaka>please don't think wether it is possible
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09:46<ayaka>jm_ it seems you have some business , it don't matter , i shall still here and will be here tommorrow, thank you very much
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10:13<flipside>Was wondering if the best way to get rid of old kernels really is apt-get remove --purge thekernelname
10:13<ayaka>yep
10:13<flipside>ayaka will that deal with the old headers and other stuff too?
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10:14<ayaka>flipside yes
10:14<flipside>ayaka thx
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10:15<ayaka>flipside you are welcome
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10:33<ayaka>is it possible to create a initramfs in different arch?
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10:37<Maulkin>I think so...
10:38<Maulkin>It's just a cpio archive
10:39<ayaka>Maulkin use update-initramfs?
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10:40<Maulkin>ayaka: Um... all the binaries in it have to be for the target architecture...
10:41<Maulkin>ayaka: I would suggest against doing it unless you know what you're doing.
10:41<salamander>Where would be the best place to put this command "xgamma -gamma 1.3" so it runs everytime I turn on my computer?
10:42<ayaka>Maulkin what will happen i wouldn't boot it in create arch, but i need it
10:43<ayaka>salamander init.rc ?
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10:44<salamander>ayaka, so I just add that at the end of that file?
10:44<Maulkin>It probably won't work if you put it in there...
10:44<Maulkin>(as display won't have started)
10:44<Maulkin>salamander: I would suggest not using xgamma, but changing your Xorg configuration directly
10:45<Maulkin>This can be done in the Monitor section with "Gamma gamma-value"
10:45<salamander>Maulkin, how can I do that?
10:45<ayaka>salamander Maulkin i am sorry, i don't know it a X program
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10:46<salamander>ayaka, thanx anyway (venezuela?)
10:46<Maulkin>salamander: You need to edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (I think)
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10:46<salamander>Maulkin, there is xorg.conf
10:46<Maulkin>That's the badger.
10:47<mivulf>hello all, im planing to migrate from ubuntu to debian, does that distribution have any limitations versus ubuntu?
10:48<salamander>mivulf, I use both, what do you mean by limitations?
10:49<mivulf>salamander: i mean, can anybody find the problems/issues, which have debian, but havnt ubuntu?
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10:51<salamander>mivulf, Ubuntu is debians son but with a lot of packages and nonfree stuff included
10:52<gnugr>mivulf: debian is not just a 'distro', we are also agreat community
10:52<mivulf>salamander: ok so as I can understand, the main difference between those two distributions is the count of packages (ubuntu >> debian)
10:52<salamander>mivulf, no
10:53<salamander>mivulf, what is the use that you want to give to your pc?
10:54<mivulf>salamander: coding mostly. but sometimes normal desktop life too. if you ask about it.
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10:54<salamander>Can anyone recomends a text editor simil gedit or kate, im using xfce
10:55<mivulf>salamander: text editor? why not vim?
10:55<ayaka>salamamder how about nano
10:56<tdrusk>salamander: mousepad for simple graphical or geany
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10:56<Maulkin>!start an editor war
10:56<dpkg>"cat >" blows!
10:56<salamander>mivulf, I want some double click text editor easy to use even for normal people (as a girlfriend)
10:57<xayon>mousepad
10:57<salamander>thanx
10:57<xayon>I mean, you're using xfce, mousepad is xfce editor! Why choose any other? =/
10:58<mivulf>salamander: ah, ok. But... if you need editor like that, why u tip me about distributions? its uncorrect. -_-
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10:58<salamander>It is not installed
10:58<tdrusk>KDE's run command isn't working. It just stopped working. I haven't tried logging out and back in again(I am in the middle of some work). How can I restart it?
10:58<tdrusk>KDE4
10:58<tdrusk>squeeze
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11:00<salamander>mivulf, im asking about text editors because I use vim and I need something for my desktop pc, family usage
11:00<salamander>ok
11:00<salamander>he is gone
11:00<gnugr>salamander: check also for leafpad
11:00<salamander>gnugr, thanx
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11:03<mivulf>is there possibility to chose bewteen gnome or kde on squeeze?
11:03<mivulf>or smth else
11:04<whirli>of course
11:04<tdrusk>Ah got it! killall krunner' krunner. Didn't knwo the name of it.
11:04<mivulf>cuz unity fts =)
11:05<whirli>mivulf: just install the DEs you want and, for example, at the login screen choose your session
11:05<tdrusk>mivulf: on the boot of the cd press tab on the option you want, then add desktop=kde desktop=gnome and remove any existing desktop= statements
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11:09<ayaka>how to make a kernel's initrd which is not boot in
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11:11<Sonne>greetings!
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11:13<Sonne>my debian squeeze, with full updates, fails to mount NFS filesystems on boot via fstab... apparently statd is not booted before the mount attempt
11:13<Sonne>"Configuring network interfaces...mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking." <-- this is what mount.nfs says
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11:57<op1um56>hello
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12:01<op1um56>Hey
12:01<Zathras>hi
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12:02<Zathras>Sonne, check nfs howto
12:02<op1um56>Im new to irc and im trying to find a java programming chat
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12:03<Sonne>Zathras, i just found out the problem... it's a compatibility issue between backports' nfs-common and squeeze initscripts
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12:03<op1um56>im in need of some help in a writingf a program
12:03<Zathras>op1um56, there is one on freenode
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12:04<op1um56>Thank you so much
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12:04<Zathras>this channel is about the OS Linux Debian, not about programming
12:04<Zathras>yw
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12:05<Guest5998> /msg dpkg lenny EOL 2012-02-06
12:05<secturey>hilfe!!?
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12:06<simonw1969>Hi,
12:06<secturey>hallo rekliz
12:06<secturey>hallo indio
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12:07<secturey>re/exit
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12:08<simonw1969>lenny box just got a security update for Postgres 8.3.17. It appears to have taken a while to work through the system. Was there some sort of problem, my google foo is too weak.
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12:11<themill>simonw1969: that's not really a security update for postgres but the last microupdate to postgres that lenny will receive. You really should be updating to squeeze though since lenny's security support ran out a month ago... /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze
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12:18<simonw1969>themill: the plan is to upgrade this month. But the box has routinely picked up previous updates immediately, so I assume something went wrong to delay the update getting to our server. I'm less concerned that some obscure Postgres bugs are fixed than why did this take 3 month to get here (and did I miss anything more important)
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12:18<themill>what makes you say it took three months to get there?
12:20<themill>simonw1969: ahh... as a non-security update, it was uploaded to oldstable-proposed-updates which is a queue that only gets copied across to the oldstable release when a debian point release is made. Point releases for oldstable are only done every few months.
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12:22<kop>Humm. reportbug can't query the bts.
12:22<kop>Works now....
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12:25<simonw1969>themill, does this mean everyone else running Lenny got it in the last few days?
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12:26<themill>simonw1969: unless they had explicitly added the lenny-proposed-updates repository to their sources.list, yes.
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12:28<ansgar>simonw1969: I recommend reading the debian-announce mailing list. (And the security announcement list as well.)
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12:30<themill>!5.0.10
12:30<dpkg>Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.10 was released on March 10th, 2012. It is the final point release for <lenny>, incorporating all security updates issued since <5.0.9>. This was produced just to collect all previous changes; it is not a sign that you should continue to use this unsupported release. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120310
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12:30<themill>simonw1969: ^^ that announcement email was sent out over the weekend which has details of each of these updates in it.
12:30<simonw1969>themill, okay then I wouldn't have installed it on that particular box today (well I took a snapshot first)- I assumed it was a mirroring problem. Yes, I see a point release after security support has ended. Let us hope they didn't introduce any security issues ;)
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12:32<themill>simonw1969: yeah, well that pg update was one of only 2 non-security-related uploads for 5.0.10. But 5.0.10 is only really an administrative step for debian in consolidating lenny prior to removing it from mirrors and relocating it to archive.debian.org
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12:38<simonw1969>themill, thanks. Adding subscriptions - but I'm not sure I'll get the time to pay much attention to these lists. My main reason for installing was I thought the other (none postgres) packages might have changed to smooth the upgrade.
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12:40<themill>yeah, that occasionally happens, although that is normally done before the next stable release, not 13 months afterwards :)
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13:02<EpsilonSigmaUltra>Is there a way to set my Ubuntu Partition as bootable again, as I reinstalled windows but my Ubuntu partition still exists, but is not set to boot.
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13:03<arand>!ubuntu
13:03<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
13:03<gnugr>EpsilonSigmaUltra: this is debian support chennel, try on #ubuntu in freenode.net
13:03<EpsilonSigmaUltra>oh sorry
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13:12<aPpYe>I am vnc'd into my brother's machine right now with an nvidia card, and his resolution is limited to vga ... is this a common issue by chance?
13:12<aPpYe>running testing.
13:13<aPpYe>it just randomly occurred, according to him.
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13:13<sney>not exactly, but depending on the drivers and the gpu model there can be all sorts of issues with nvidia cards
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13:13<aPpYe>meaning, it worked fine for months and now this.
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13:13<aPpYe>without any updates having been applied or software installed.
13:13<sney>he probably did _something_ even if he thinks it was unrelated
13:14<aPpYe>probably...
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13:14<sney>so, what nvidia card is it, and what drivers?
13:15<pedro>hi
13:15<aPpYe>sney, gimme a minute.
13:16<pedro>i'm take or so
13:16<pedro>spanish
13:16<sney>!es
13:16<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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13:16<pedro>tu hablas español?
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13:19<kooll>ok ... whoever wrote /etc/init.d/mountoverflowtmp killed my server :)
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13:20<kooll>and for anyone else running a server that won't work right with a 1MB /tmp ... check that script and change its config or remove it, too, will save you troubleshooting time
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13:22<sney>kooll, file a bug then
13:23<kooll>I don't really see how to express that 'bug'.
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13:23<sney>you just expressed it right here... if the maintainer needs more details, they'll know what questions to ask
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13:28<kooll>bug already reported by someone else. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=567539 (and damn ... bugs.debian.org is quite slow today)
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13:52<LinuxTyrant>how do i do to shred folders with the shred command?
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13:53<LinuxTyrant>how do i do to shred folders with the shred command?
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14:01<LinuxTyrant>how do i use the shred command to shred folders?
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14:03<melmothX>LinuxTyrant: shred, afaik, operates on files, not directories
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14:04<melmothX>try find directory -type f -exec shred {} \; and then rm -rf the directory
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14:09<salamander>I wonder if I could watch a youtube video in 360p quality if my hardware includes an Ati Radeon 9700 pro, athlon xp2700, 2gb ram. Software: debian squeeze, Radeon driver, flashplugin-nonfree, chromium browser.
14:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 501] by debhelper
14:10<salamander>Btw, flash videos looks like sh...
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14:15<lord_rob>salamander: using ati or fglrx ?
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14:16<lord_rob>I'm running ati and it works ok
14:16<lord_rob>ah yes and switch youtube to html5
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14:16<lord_rob>youtube.com/html5
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14:17<salamander>lord_rob, in lsusb I see radeon as the driver controlling my video card
14:17<lord_rob>switching to html5 fixed a lot of problems for me
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14:20<lord_rob>lsusb ? should tell you about usb peripherals connected to your box
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14:22<salamander>sorry
14:22<salamander>lsmod
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14:24<bawt>i have a question
14:24<bawt>no one in help channels
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14:24<bawt>anyone?
14:24<heikkila>!ask
14:24<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:25<bawt>ok
14:25<bawt>how do i restrict ls /home
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14:25<bawt>so users are not able to view it but still have access to their dir?
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14:26<salamander>¿sudo chmod a-x /home? I dont know, just asking
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14:27<bawt>i tried 700
14:27<bawt>600
14:27<bawt>660
14:27<bawt>but it seems to kill access to subfolders as well
14:27<bawt>i didn't use a -R
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14:28<dondelelcaro>bawt: the directory needs to be +x but not +r.
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14:28<dondelelcaro>bawt: so chmod 0711 /home
14:28<bawt>711?
14:29<bawt>oh cool
14:29<dondelelcaro>though doing that is kind of stupid, because anyone who actually cared could find it out by using getent passwd
14:29<bawt>thanks man
14:29<bawt>that worked
14:29<melmothX>bawt: find . -type f -exec chmod 600 {} \;
14:29<dondelelcaro>dear god no.
14:29<bawt>lol
14:29<bawt>how about rm instead
14:29<dondelelcaro>DO NOT EVER DO RECURSIVE CHMODDING UNLESS YOU KNOW PRECISELY WHAT YOU ARE DOING
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14:30<bawt>thanks dondelelcaro
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14:39<kimmi>Does anyone know a nice frontend to manage .zip and .rar files?? Im working with debian squeeze and xfce
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14:46<tdrusk>kimmi: squeeze
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14:47<devil>kimmi: xarchiver
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14:48<kimmi>devil, thanx
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14:49<devil>kimmi: there is also file-roller
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14:50<kimmi>devil, which one would be the most enhaced and beautifull??
14:51<devil>kimmi: i have not used them in a long time, look at screenshots on the respective webpages. fileroller can handle more formats iirc
14:52<devil>file-roller that is
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14:53<kimmi>devil, thank you, i will take a look at them
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15:17<jhutchins_wk>kingsley: ark
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15:24<wizark>Is there a webb application for debian so users can read their mail trough a website? Or similar systems.
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15:25<dondelelcaro>wizark: roundcube, squirrelmail, and a few others
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15:25<jhutchins_wk>wizark: That's usually provided by the server, but yes, several are available on debian servers.
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15:26<wizark>Is there a particularly stable and "debianfied" setup?
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15:26<jhutchins_wk>wizark: Are you wanting to provide a web interface for users of your mailserver?
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15:26<wizark>Yes, well. Honestly, it's only for myself when I'm out of reach fora putty term
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15:26<dondelelcaro>wizark: I'm using both, actually...
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15:27<wizark>So
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15:28<jhutchins_wk>I use squirrelmail. I've also used hoarde, but it's more than just mail. Roundcube gets excellent results.
15:28<jhutchins_wk>reviews rather.
15:28<wizark>Alright, sounds good
15:28<dondelelcaro>yeah, I'm actually in the process of switching everyone from squirrelmail to roundcube
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15:28<wizark>Then it will be so
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15:28<wizark>Thank you troopers
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15:47<withheld>How can I change the hibernation scripts? I want to add xscreensaver-command -lock when I hibernate
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16:08<RoboTux>Greetings
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16:09<retrospectacus>g'day
16:09<RoboTux>Does the NETDOWN variable in /etc/default/halt still have an effect if systemd is the init?
16:09<matteo>ciao
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16:56<dvs>here too
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17:07<sml>anyone know if openswan is now 'preferred' over racoon ?
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17:28<joan>hola
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17:41<Infiltrator>Is there a quick and simple (or not) way to find the number of segments of continuous free space on a partition that are greater than a certain size? Specifically, I think that it's not really correct to monitor partitions by saying 10% free is okay, but less is bad, especially when the sizes are large (~1TB).
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18:29<mejsa>Hey guys,i got the problem with virtual host,im redirecting the domain forgym.tk to my ip address,(i have public ip adress),cat /etc/apache/sites-enabled my site http://pastebin.com/1mDnAA0B,i can access that page thrrue lynx forgym.tk (after editing hosts),but i can get any of the text there should be thrue ouside world :-(,any suggestion ?
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18:32<retrospectacus>mejsa: I get <body> asadasdada </body>
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18:33<mejsa>retrospectacus,really ?
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18:35<retrospectacus>:S
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18:35<abrotman>he's sitll asking?!
18:36<mejsa>retrospecatucs : thanks:D,i was getting mad...cause opera didn't show :D
18:36<mejsa>abrotman: yes im :D
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18:37<The>Hi guys
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18:54<valdyn>mejsa: you might not want to use opera turbo for tests like this
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18:56<mejsa>valdyn: turbo is disabled,i restarted opera and it works just perfect
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19:09<elham>pagiiii semua
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19:26<fernando>Hola
19:26<fernando>estamos todos, no?
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19:27<Guest6047>si no?
19:27<Guest6047>hola?
19:27<Guest6047>no hay nadie?
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19:28<jhutchins_lt>!es
19:28<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
19:29<jhutchins_lt>Guest5887: Habla Engles?
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19:29<jhutchins_lt>N'mind.
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23:07<love>SADFAS
23:07<love>HI, EVERY ONE
23:08<love>I'm first use irssi.
23:08<kop>love: Well this channel is for debian support. If you have a debian question just ask. Otherwise you'd want to go elsewhere.
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23:09<love>hi, mac
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23:10<kop>love: And if you don't stay on-topic, which means debian, then an op will likely kick you off the channel.
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23:13<robbiethe1st>OK, guys, I'm trying to get KDE working nicely on my(spare) desktop. I've got an ATI card, and just installed the Radeon driver. X starts up, I can log into kde... but at that point, I have no panels, and any applications I try to start don't appear. I can access the run-command dialog(alt+f2) and System activity, but any apps I launch don't show up
23:14<bones_was_here>can you start konsole or xterm? try to start an app in that, it will probably give some errors that indicate the problem
23:14<robbiethe1st>They do show up in the System Activity manager / htop, but don't appear onscreen. Any ideas as to how to proceed?
23:14<robbiethe1st>I can't start konsole
23:14<robbiethe1st>It starts, but doesn't actually appear
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23:14<love>read the logs.
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23:15<robbiethe1st>I can run commands via VT1, though. And which logs would be helpful here?
23:15<bones_was_here>/var/log/Xorg.0.log
23:15<kop>robbiethe1st: Did you install the radeon driver using the regular debian packaging? (Sounds like, but just checking.)
23:15<bones_was_here>ask dpkg about how to use pastebin from console i guess
23:15<robbiethe1st>kop, yes. Xorg.0.log has no errors.
23:16<bones_was_here>but, if the apps are running but not being rendered, there could well be no errors anywhere
23:16<bones_was_here>try turning off composition with shift+alt+f12
23:16<aidalgol>Does Debian provide OpenGL man pages, or are there legal issues with that?
23:16<robbiethe1st>Nothing happened.
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23:19<robbiethe1st>Odd thing is that the alt+f2 application works, as well as the system activity window
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23:20<bones_was_here>how did you install kde? maybe it's missing something... though that would typically cause errors or login failure
23:20<robbiethe1st>What about dbus?
23:20<robbiethe1st>Looks like there's error messages about that in kdm
23:21<bones_was_here>dbus should have been installed as a dependency
23:21<robbiethe1st>But it could be an upgrade issue.
23:22<robbiethe1st>If it was...
23:22<robbiethe1st>which package would I reinstall?
23:23<love>uninstall Radeon driver ??
23:23<robbiethe1st>Nah, it has something to do with dbus. At least that's one problem
23:23<love>??changed the display setting??
23:24<bones_was_here>if it was radeon's fault it would almost certainly be logging X errors
23:24<bones_was_here>or simply crashing X
23:24<robbiethe1st>Yeah
23:24<bones_was_here>maybe purge and reinstall everything with dbus in its name?
23:25<bones_was_here>or pastebin the kdm log
23:25<robbiethe1st>Trying that
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23:35<love>who come from Asia?
23:36<retrospectacus>Asians
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23:36<love>do you know GFW?
23:36<retrospectacus>yes
23:37<love>yes, i can't use tor, ??
23:37<love>and ,this is my first use IRC.
23:38<retrospectacus>nice work :)
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23:47<love>It 's time to lunch, see you.
23:47<retrospectacus>bon appetit
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