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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-03-13

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01:07<randy>New to debian.
01:07<randy>can i add widgets to the desktop? Like weather, calendar, etc...
01:08<sney>which desktop? but yes, probably
01:08<randy>lmde 12
01:08<randy>any special packages I need to install?
01:09<sney>ah, so new to debian that you're not even using it
01:09<sney>!lmde
01:09<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
01:10<randy>Thanks... thought LMDE stood for Linux Mint Debian Edition....
01:10<randy>thx
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01:55<armani>i get a rtmpsetled ban mcu cmd 50 in sleep mode when i try to reboot my laptop...i'm using squeeze on a MSI U230...any suggestions on how to fix this?
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02:44<love>the file "/etc/resolv.conf" usually changed? why?
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02:48<petrol91>do you use network-mannager?
02:49<love>yes
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02:57<joyhu>hi
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03:05<Whisk>hey i have a quick question about xchat if anyone could help
03:05<Whisk>err nm
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03:23<daniel>eghkerhge
03:23<daniel>gcfhrfhtge
03:23<daniel>ergret
03:23<daniel>egrgv
03:23<daniel>tg
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04:24<fr_>does anybody knows a channel about tru64 unix ?
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04:30<nthykier>hi, I am updating an old apache2.conf from Lenny (presumably older) and I noticed the Squeeze config uses things like "<IfModule mpm_worker_module>" and whereas my config uses "<IfModule worker.c>" - does anyone happen to know where I can find a "migration guide" (or so), so far the NEWS file and changelogs have not been that helpful.
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04:40<bzed>nthykier: I think both things still work. not sure though
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04:44<nthykier>bzed: Thanks, now I just need to assert which ".c" file maps to which modules so I do not have conflicting configuration values :)
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05:37<nthykier>bzed: thanks - I figured out now :)
05:37<StyXman>given the output from, say, pwgen, how can I 'scriptticaly' change a user's password?
05:37<StyXman>(I'm root)
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05:39<StyXman>chpasswd, that is
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05:42<jm_>StyXman: echo user_name:password | chpasswd
05:43<StyXman>jm_: yeah, thanks
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05:46<kblin>hi folks
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05:48<kblin>I'm trying to figure out an iptables nat rule that'll allow me to NAT traffic coming from 192.168.1.0/24 and going to everywhere apart from 192.168.1.0/24
05:48<kblin>iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o br0 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d '!192.168.1.0/24' -j MASQUERADE is my current attempt
05:49<kblin>but I'm getting a iptables v1.4.8: host/network `!192.168.1.0/24' not found
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05:49<kblin>any ideas what the correct statement would be?
05:50<jm_>! needs to come before -d
05:50<kblin>ah, perfect
05:50<kblin>thanks a bunch
05:51<jm_>no worries
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05:52<kblin>I'm pleasantly surprised how easy it is to run a ton of LXC containers on this machine
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05:53<kblin>all I needed was a backports kernel that knew how to do memory cgroups
05:53<jm_>isn't the idea of lxc to be cheap?
05:53<keith>Squeeze 6.0.4 Is there a driver for NetComm USB Modem AM5067?
05:53<kblin>jm_: easy as in ease-of-setup, not ressources
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05:57<jm_>keith: do you have /proc/bus/usb/devices file?
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06:01<streuner>thats a dialup modem, according to first results of google, shouldnt that work just with wvidal?
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06:02<keith>jm_ No. I assume from that that I should have one. How do I obtain or make one?
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06:03<jm_>keith: naah, it's an obsolete feature, but unofrtunatelly kernel docs refer to it
06:03<streuner>keith: what happens if you connect that modem? do you get any results of the kernel?
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06:04<shafi>#railsbridge
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06:04<streuner>keith: look into /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
06:04<streuner>keith: about
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06:06<keith>streuner: Nothing. The cd that comes with it has microft , redhat, Suse drivers but nothing for debian.
06:07<streuner>Drivers for a dialup modem, hm.
06:07<jm_>keith: run dmesg before and after you attach it, compare the difference
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06:08<Estrella>ola
06:09<Estrella>:)
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06:09<Carmen>o,a
06:09<Carmen>ola
06:09<streuner>keith: do you have an entry in "lsusb"?
06:09<Estrella>;)
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06:09<Carmen>estrella yoati te matoo
06:09<Carmen>ee
06:09<Estrella>porqee
06:09<streuner>!es
06:09<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
06:09<Carmen>pork me dijo a ayer mi es
06:09<Carmen>ke tu le diste el numero
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06:10<Maulkin>Please take it elsewhere
06:11<keith>streuner: lsusb has 3 items but no modem
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06:12<streuner>strange, USB devices should be listed, even with no driver, IIRC
06:14<ayaka>if i insmod the bnep.ko then bluethooth can be used as bnep0 in ifconfig
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06:16<streuner>keith: well, iam out of ideas then, but you can use "alien" to convert rpms...
06:16<streuner>keith: maybe it works
06:17<streuner>keith: on the other hand, dialup modems are very cheap, just get another one (without USB) for a few bucks
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06:19<freezer>streuner, i thought you are dead
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06:19<streuner>tell me news :-)
06:19<streuner>thats the second time you asked me about :-)
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06:20<freezer>the last time i lost track
06:20<freezer>what did you say?
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06:20<Carmen>ablar en español que no se entiende
06:21<Estrella>feii
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06:21<Estrella>olaa
06:21<Carmen>ablame estrellaaaa
06:21<jm_>!es social
06:21<dpkg>social: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
06:21<Estrella>qe estoii akii
06:22<Estrella>:)
06:22<Carmen>jajajaja k lokaa ara cuando formate mi ordenado melo pones ami esto enn
06:22<Carmen>:P
06:23<Estrella>valee
06:23<SynrG>Maulkin?
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06:23<themill>Estrella, Carmen: play elsewhere
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06:23<SynrG>auto-unquiet after 10m?
06:23<keith>streuner: Yes I am using the old type to talk to you now but I wanted to use the usb version as it is smaller. Anyway thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
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06:24<streuner>keith: are you sure, the modem is connected to energy? if yes, i would give alien a try
06:25<jm_>it says it doesn't need external power
06:25<streuner>uhm, ok.
06:25<jm_>granted, not all usb ports might deliver enough power
06:26<streuner>keith: is the modem directly connected to the desktop/laptop?
06:26<streuner>well, some usb-hubs makes sometimes headaches...
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06:28<keith>Streuner: Yes but I will try another computer that I have here. It has different usb ports.(or at least more recent.)
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06:31<Maulkin>Oh yay.
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06:31<Maulkin>(sorry, was grabbing coffee)
06:32<Maulkin>Yeah, it auto times out after 10 mins by default
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06:45<keith>streuner: I was mistaken earlier. lsusb has an entry Systems Soft Modem. Is that mean anything?
06:46<streuner>keith: well, the kernel regonizes your modem now, just try wvidal now
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06:48<keith>streuner: I will try wvdial but for now I must exit. Thanks a lot.
06:48<streuner>keith: yw
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07:17<BlindSsinger>sooo
07:17<BlindSsinger>Хало
07:17<@Ganneff>!ru
07:17<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
07:17<BlindSsinger>Ok
07:17<BlindSsinger>sorry
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07:25<ayaka>does debian support filesystem emmc
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07:32<Maulkin>ayaka: That doesn't really make too much sense... which filesystem do you have stored on the EMMC?
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07:33<Maulkin>Or which one are you after? And how is the emmc connected?
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07:44<tuxcrafter>does somebody know a trick to reset the ext4 error count log with e2fsprogs 1.41.12 from debian stable
07:45<ayaka>Maulkin the filesystem is emmc mount type is emmc
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07:47<Maulkin>Um... no. emmc isn't a filesystem.
07:48<babilen>ayaka: eMMC is just a type of smartcard -- "Embedded MultiMediaCard" to be precise. Think of it as a kind of harddrive on which you can use different filesystems.
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07:56<ayaka>babilen i am sure what i said, i see the fstab the type is emmc
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08:03<ayaka>babilen Maulkin /boot emmc /dev/block/mmcblk0p20
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08:06<rafaelperezgamarro>donde estan las tias
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08:19<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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08:26<ayaka>if i insmod bnep.ko, does the bluetooth will show as bnep0
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08:41<love>I come back.
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09:35<viatlvitoo>Доброго времени, есть рускоязычные пользователи, кто с драйверами подсказать может?
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09:36<babilen>!ru
09:36<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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09:38<ayaka>if i insmod bnep.ko, does the bluetooth will show as bnep0
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09:54<Grego>Hola
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09:54<Grego>Hay alguien
09:54<micove>!es
09:54<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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09:58<mivulf>Which way is the best to get information in first section of spreadsheet 3.1 (by following link)? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s03.html.en#fsohi
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10:03<babilen>mivulf: "lspci -n" together with http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/, hwinfo and "lsusb" should provide everything you need.
10:06<mivulf>babilen: ehm, thx, but im not on debian yet... windows... =(
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10:06<mivulf>babilen: preparing to install
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10:07<babilen>mivulf: Hmm, what kind of hardware are you installing on? I am not familiar with any comparable tools for windows (##windows on irc.freenode.net might know)
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10:10<mivulf>babilen: ok, sry, i think i must go to it channel. thx.
10:11<babilen>mivulf: You can also just summarise what kind of hardware you are installing on -- Another approach would be to try a Live CD (Debian Live, GRML, ...) first. Most hardware is very well supported by Linux and it might only be that you need a newer kernel. How old is your computer?
10:12<babilen>mivulf: It is also typically not a problem to install Debian first and take it from there. That, however, assumes that the kernel on the installation CD is recent enough to enable you to finish the installation. We are quite happy to talk you through the setup process, but need more information.
10:13<mivulf>babilen: i cant understand what do u mean "hardware"
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10:14<mivulf>babilen: asus notebook, intel core i3-2330M, 2.2GHz, 4GB memory, 500GB hdd, OS win7 basic. That? or u mean another thing
10:14<babilen>mivulf: The computer you are installing on -- Your computer's hardware is comprised of all its parts. (CPU, harddrive, ...) -- How old is your computer and do you know what processor is used?
10:14<mivulf>babilen: i think its 64bit processor... so i downloaded ~180mb vers amd64 debian, its mistace?
10:14<babilen>mivulf: Ah, thank you. Yes, that is exactly the kind of information I needed. I would recommend to use a kmuto installer for that which comes with a newer kernel and upgrade to a backported kernel later.
10:14<babilen>!tell mivulf -about kmuto
10:15<babilen>mivulf: Those installers do, however, expect you to have a working (wired) internet connection. Is that the case for you?
10:16<mivulf>babilen: thx. does that kmuto is program like wubi?
10:17<babilen>mivulf: It is essentially just the "normal" Debian installer with a newer kernel (that therefore supports newer hardware such as i3 cpus) -- I reckon that you can still use the normal installer that you've downloaded already. I still recommend to upgrade the kernel later, but lets take it step-by-step. Do you have a working and wired internet connection during the installation?
10:19<mivulf>babilen: yes, i have.
10:20<babilen>mivulf: Wonderful -- I would just download the first image listed on http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ (0808) for amd64 -- Once you've finished the initial install you should upgrade your kernel to one in backports.
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10:20<babilen>!tell mivulf -about bdo
10:20<babilen>!tell mivulf -about bdo kernel
10:20<mivulf>babilen: what difference between debian-installer and kmuto?
10:21<babilen>mivulf: The kmuto installer is just the standard debian-installer with a newer kernel
10:22<mivulf>babilen: oh. newer than squeeze?
10:23<babilen>mivulf: Yes - Squeeze ships with a 2.6.32 kernel and you'll find 2.6.39 on the kmuto installer. You can (and should!) upgrade to a 3.2 kernel that is available from backports after the initial installation. (See dpkg's private messages or just come back once you've installed)
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10:23<babilen>!tell mivulf about introduction
10:23<mivulf>babilen: 2.6 = 6.0?
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10:25<babilen>mivulf: No -- 6.0 is the current Debian release (actually 6.0.4) named "Squeeze" -- 2.6.32 is the version of the Linux kernel which includes, among other things, all the drivers you need to use your hardware.
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10:26<babilen>mivulf: The current Debian release ships with a 2.6.32 kernel, but you can install a newer kernel (a 3.2 one) that has been backported from our current development release (which is named testing or wheezy)
10:26<babilen>mivulf: Given that you have a i3 CPU you are better off with a newer kernel as some of its features are not supported by a .32 kernel.
10:26<mivulf>babilen: ah, ok. thx. that was stupid question about vers.
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10:27<nodiscc>hello, what is the correct way to replace /etc/ssh/sshd_config from a package? dpkg-divert?
10:27<mivulf>babilen: oh, thx. Thats important, as i can see. Thx for a great tip! =)
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10:27<babilen>mivulf: Don't worry -- I hope that you understand it now. But just ask if something is unclear, we are happy to answer even your most "stupid" questions :)
10:27<nodiscc>or any config file
10:27<nodiscc>*other
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10:28<babilen>nodiscc: You might want to ask that in #debian-mentors
10:28<nodiscc>thanks babilen
10:28<ayaka>how to know which filesystem is supported to mount, or which type mount -t supported
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10:30<babilen>ayaka: If your tab-completion is working you can just "mount /dev/??? -t<TAB><TAB>" to get a list such as http://paste.debian.net/159556/ -- Would have to google for information on how to get a comprehensive list in another way.
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10:31<mivulf>!tell mivulf about bdo
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10:32<babilen>mivulf: You can "/msg dpkg bdo" directly (and ask the bot about all the other factoids in <…>)
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10:33<ayaka>babilen just think i don't have bash comoletion or wirhout tab
10:34<AgavenDicksaft>I am about to upgrade my TP's memory. How do I find out what kind of SO-DIMMs my laptop needs?
10:34<babilen>ayaka: "cat /proc/filesystems" in that case (thanks petemc)
10:34<babilen>AgavenDicksaft: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Hardware_Specifications
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10:35<ayaka>babilen thank you
10:35<ayaka>what is fuse filesystem
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10:36<babilen>ayaka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace
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10:36<nodiscc>msg dpkg fuse
10:36<nodiscc>dpkg, fuse?
10:36<dpkg>FUSE is a userspace filesystem framework, enabling mounting of various exotic filesystems like <ntfs-3g>, Samba shares, tar files, FTP sites etc. Included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.14. For a FUSE filesystem list, see http://wiki.debian.org/FileSystem#FUSE_Filesystem . http://apps.sf.net/mediawiki/fuse/?title=FAQ http://fuse.sf.net/ ##fuse on irc.freenode.net.
10:36<AgavenDicksaft>babilen: I was already on that size, my ThinkPad has "2, 3 or 4GB of PC3-8500(1066Mhz) or PC3-10666(1333Mhz) memory upgradable to 8GB". But there are different T510s so I need to know what about mine
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10:38<babilen>AgavenDicksaft: The hardware maintainance manuals are typically quite clear on replacement FRUs -- I would also just recommend to take a look at the chip that is already in your box.
10:39<ayaka>babilen nodiscc thank you
10:39<AgavenDicksaft>babilen: so I can't find it about via the command line? something like lshw?
10:39<ayaka>if i don't config ntfs in kernel, does ntfs-3g support it
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10:40<babilen>AgavenDicksaft: You can also run "sudo dmidecode --type 17"
10:40<mivulf>babilen: .39 is "testing", right? so is it unstable?
10:40<babilen>(that is if you use sudo)
10:40<babilen>!tell mivulf -about stable
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10:41<AgavenDicksaft>babilen: that's it; thanks :)
10:41<babilen>mivulf: The backported kernel packages are typically quite stable (in the non-broken/not-buggy sense) -- Note that Debian's definition of stable only means "not changing" and has very little to do with "unbroken"
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10:42<babilen>,versions linux-image-amd64 --release squeeze-backports
10:42<judd>Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 3.2+42~bpo60+1
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10:43<mivulf>babilen: ok, that the answer i want to get. thx.
10:43<babilen>mivulf: I recommend to ultimately install ^^^^^ from squeeze-backports. But really: Install Debian first and you can come back and we'll help you.
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10:44<kop>mivulf: (I like the <overview> factoid and referenced wiki page for those new to debian.)
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10:45<babilen>kop: Been there, done that :)
10:45<mivulf>babilen: the problem is when i start to installing debian, i can only read mans/docs from my win mobile 7 smartphone. but i cant to connect to irc from that device to talk with you, sir =)
10:45<babilen>err, /me went for <introduction> no <overview> *sigh*
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10:46<ayaka>if i fdisk show the filesystem unknown, how to find out what the filesystem is
10:47<babilen>mivulf: Oh, I understand. It might make sense to go somewhere where you have access to another computer -- That being said: The (initial) installation should actually work fine and you should be able to come here from your newly installed Debian system. I would still recommend to have another computer around so we can help you if something went wrong or if something is unclear.
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10:48<kop>mivulf: So long as you have network you can "aptitude install irssi" and then "irssi --connect irc.debian.org" And "/join #debian". That will get you back here, even from the most minimal install.
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10:51<kop>ayaka: You can "file -s /dev/sda1" or whatever the path to the partition is.
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10:52<curitibatem>bom dia a todos!
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10:53<curitibatem>alguem pode me ajudar na resolução do meu video ele não passa dos 1024 x 768
10:53<babilen>!pt
10:53<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
10:53<babilen>curitibatem: (or speak English in here) :)
10:55<curitibatem>there is no one in debin-pt
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10:56<curitibatem>there is no one in debian-pt
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10:56<babilen>curitibatem: Try #debian-br
10:57<curitibatem>Can someone help me with the resolution of my video is no more than 1024 x 768
10:57<ayaka>kop thank you
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10:58<babilen>curitibatem: Which graphic card ("lspci -nn|grep -i vga") and which driver are you using? Could you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net ?
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11:03<Estrella>ola
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11:04<ayaka>Esrella do you speak englsih
11:04<ayaka>Esrella do you speak english
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11:05<Estrella>noo
11:05<curitibatem>babilen: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
11:05<ayaka>Estrella which language
11:05<Estrella>español
11:06<@Ganneff>!es
11:06<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
11:06<ayaka>!es
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11:07<AgavenDicksaft>when will aircrack-ng finally be moved from sid to wheezy?
11:07<ayaka>curitibatem well it is maybe impossbile to use it
11:08<curitibatem>ok
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11:09<babilen>curitibatem: I kindly ask you to be patient as I will take a little break right now. I would strongly recommend to paste your Xorg.0.log and the output of "xrandr -q" to http://paste.debian.net -- Please also make sure that you have xserver-xorg-video-savage installed. You can also try the Xorg version in backports (/msg dpkg bdo)
11:09<ayaka>curitibatem althought X has s3 driver,but it is for new s3 in my meomories, but you can follow babilen as before
11:09<Estrella>oihn
11:09<Estrella>kj
11:10<ayaka>!tell Estrella about es
11:10<babilen>curitibatem: I am, as of now, unable to find specific information on your card as you did now paste the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" (or at least you neglected to paste the PCIID at the end)
11:11<Estrella>sisisis
11:11<Estrella>yes
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11:11<ayaka>babilen in my memories the s3 driver can't support old s3 as his
11:11<Estrella>hello ayaka
11:11<ayaka>Estrella hello
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11:13<Estrella>how old are you
11:13<@Ganneff>Estrella, ayaka: this is not a chat channel. go to #debian-offtopic or #moocows please
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11:14<Estrella>how old are you ayaka
11:14<Estrella>how old are you ? ayaka
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11:16<ayaka>Ganneff i always know that, i just think he need help
11:16<jthomas>so 5.0.10 was just released! http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120310 but there isn't ANY INFO about actually obtaining the ISO files and I cant't find them in the various links. Can anyone gimme a hand to find the ISO files?
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11:19<ayaka>kop does file is default installed in armhf, where is it
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11:22<ayaka>kop i will install it, thank you
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11:33<kop>jthomas: Why would you want to install 5? It's out of support.
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11:36<ayaka>file -s efd.img
11:36<ayaka>what is it means
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11:37<bahar>hi can anybody tell how can protect myself from porn in ubuntu
11:38<Maulkin>!ubuntu
11:38<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
11:39<bahar>can anyone tell me
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11:43<jthomas>kop it's a work need, not about 'want'
11:46<jthomas>found what i needed here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.10/i386/iso-cd/
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11:53<ayaka>how let system in chroot visit /dev/block in the host
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12:01<kop>ayaka: I suspect you would do that with a bind mount. But what are you really trying to do? (Perhaps lxc would be a better solution.) Chroots are not really ment for security.
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12:08<justin1>Hello all. I must start by apologizing for being a noob. I work for a small web development company (14 people) and am looking to convert our current windows server (a box in the corner of a room) into a linux server. We just use it to store files. I am looking for help to get started in that direction. Any good tutorials anyone could point me to? Thanks!
12:10<Maulkin>You're after 'samba' for the windows-sharing thing.
12:11<slam>justin1: or forget samba if your clients are on linux, too
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12:11<justin1>I think so. So far I am under the impression that a windows box on the same network would see the linux server as a folder
12:12<justin1>not sure if the windows user would have to map the network drive, or if it would automatically show up within the network view like the current windows box does
12:12<justin1>But if every computer had to map the drive, it wouldn't be a big deal
12:13<ayaka>kop the host is android i want to visit it boot partition to cp initramfs from it to boot debian
12:14<kop>ayaka: Dunno. But this is not the place for android questions.
12:15<ayaka>kop i know so i ask in chroot
12:16<kop>justin1: I think it just shows up. I always poke samba with a stick to get it to work. I find the faq at samba.org to be helpful. The one gotcha is that all the computers should have an accurate time or things break. Use ntp.
12:17<kop>justin1: If you have specific questions we can help. Otherwise, see the install guide at debian.org. (I think there's a samba/file sharing choice during the install.)
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12:19<ayaka>kop mount -o bind /dev/xx /mnt?
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12:20<kop>ayaka: That sounds plausable, so long as xx is a directory.
12:21<kop>ayaka: But you need to mount it somewhere inside your chroot.
12:21<ayaka>kop yes, but problem is not work
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12:24<ayaka>kop ls -l show drw------- but mount tell me not a diretory
12:24<Zaba>try mount --bind
12:25<gnugr>ayaka: use debian-reference to use chroot
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12:27<justin1>I guess I don't have a specific question yet, but I am looking for some good starter materials before I blow away the current server. It is heavily used so I don't have a big window to install debian and get it up and running. I wouldn't wanna get stuck somewhere having the entire company waiting on me.
12:27<ayaka>Zaba invaild argument
12:27<gnugr>ayaka: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch09#_chroot_system
12:27<ayaka>gnugr the book
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12:30<ayaka>gnugr i have known that, but that is not problem
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12:46<Sicelo>win 27
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13:31<m4rvin>hello! I was installing debian 6.0.4 in graphical mode, but the installation stopped during setting time with NTP. It is an installation on a Virtual machine. Have I to start a NTP daemon on my host machine?
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13:32<sney>no, it should still be able to reach pool.ntp.org as long as you have networking set up on the vm
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13:43<m4rvin>sney, which is the correct configuration of the virtual machine to use the network? (NAT, bridged networking, internal networking, host-only networking...) [I'm using Virtual Box]
13:43<sney>either nat or bridged, I think
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13:44<m4rvin>they both do not seem to work...
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13:45<dvs>m4rvin: NAT is used to do filtering. bridge just transfers everything
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13:54<m4rvin>ok, I abort the installation. The network interface was correctly configured because it works now. So there was some issue in the installation process...(maybe a bug?!)
13:55<szczawiu>somebody who uses phpundercontrol?
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14:00<ballison>what is debian version of "chkconfig httpd off" ?
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14:01<retrospectacus>insserv -r apache2
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14:02<ballison>-bash: insserv: command not found
14:02<retrospectacus>pre-squeeze?
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14:03<retrospectacus>update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
14:03<ballison>http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2QmQ97Vb
14:03<ballison>looks like insserv -r did very bad things to my system
14:03<ballison>what are all those errors?
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14:04<retrospectacus>your webmin and tomcat initscripts are not LSB compatible
14:04<retrospectacus>but those are all warnings, not errors.
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14:05<ballison>cool thanks
14:05<ballison>update-rc.d worked better - thanks!
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14:08<ballison>Retro: thank you! you rock!
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14:09<zeleboba>Hello,can u help me with debian
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14:11<retrospectacus>zeleboba: maybe, you'll have to ask your question first
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14:14<zeleboba>I can't install apache+php in debian gnu server
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14:14<retrospectacus>zeleboba: why not?
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14:15<zeleboba>I used keys of installation , but server doesn't display anithing trough http
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14:16<zeleboba>can u tell me some comands
14:16<retrospectacus>zeleboba: wget http://localhost/
14:17<retrospectacus>zeleboba: service apache2 restart
14:17<retrospectacus>zeleboba: try those, and make a pastebin with their outputs
14:17<retrospectacus>!pastebin
14:17<zeleboba>wget localhost - connect is denined
14:17<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://paste.pocoo.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>, <lodgeit.py>.
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14:18<retrospectacus>ok then no web server is running. try the other
14:18<zeleboba>apache2: unrecognised service
14:19<retrospectacus>so you didn't install apache
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14:20<zeleboba>Yes, i have 2.6.32-5.686 version of Debian , when i can download is actual version apache+php+mysql
14:20<retrospectacus>zeleboba: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql
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14:22<zeleboba>thank you, it's started
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14:24<zeleboba>just 0% of install
14:24<zeleboba>50%
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14:51<zeleboba>hi
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14:51<retrospectacus>hello again zeleboba
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14:53<zeleboba>thanks , i'll try, and check progress instalation
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15:24<zeleboba>Не удалось получить http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.3.3-7+squeeze7_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
15:24<zeleboba>Не удалось получить http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/p/php5/libapache2-mod-php5_5.3.3-7+squeeze7_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
15:24<zeleboba>Не удалось получить http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/p/php5/php5-cli_5.3.3-7+squeeze7_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
15:24<zeleboba>Не удалось получить http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/p/php5/php5-mysql_5.3.3-7+squeeze7_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
15:24<zeleboba>E: Невозможно получить некоторые архивы, вероятно надо запустить apt-get update или попытаться повторить запуск с ключом --fix-missing
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15:25<zeleboba>hello
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15:30<dondelelcaro>zeleboba: rerun apt-get update, then try again.
15:31<zeleboba> I was try this : apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysq , and some was download and install, bud wget http://localhost is denided, and service apache2 restart is unrecognized service :(
15:31<zeleboba>i updated yet, thank you
15:31<dondelelcaro>zeleboba: ok, what is the output from that? prefix those comands with LANG=C so we can see the output in english
15:31<dondelelcaro>!tell zeleboba -about paste
15:31<dondelelcaro>(and use a paste site, like dpkg just told you)
15:32<zeleboba>ok:)
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16:04<zeleboba>Hello,thank you,i was istalled Apache+mysql+php, and IE - It works! but i have some files in the root, which i want to download ip/file.file , how i can get it ?
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16:15<hdb2>how can I set the permissions on my www folder (apache) so that a standard user can update the files? I've been googling for two days and can't seem to get this right :-/
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16:15<retrospectacus>775 and add the user to the www-data group
16:16<hdb2>retrospectacus: AWESOME.
16:17<retrospectacus>just a guess :P
16:18<retrospectacus>you don't want mod_userdir ?
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16:19<hdb2>hmmmm
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16:22<anonymous>hi
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16:26<retrospectacus>hdb2: you'd also have to chgrp www-data /var/www
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16:27<hdb2>retrospectacus: cool, that's what I'll do.
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16:32<zeleboba>I use Putty, but it slowly for sorting of files according to folders. Whether prompt there is an alternative fast client ftp
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16:35<aidalgol>I can't connect to my LAN over ethernet. I'm using wicd, and the network uses DHCP. Where should I start troubleshooting?
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16:55<anonymous>hellow
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17:01<zeleboba>hello, how can i copy folder from root , to var/www/ ?
17:01<prenosnik>ok thus us just awesome
17:01<prenosnik>irc still working :D
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17:16<stummi>zeleboba: cp
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17:19<valdyn>retrospectacus: using the www-data group for this is *really* stupid
17:19<valdyn>hdb2: ^^
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17:22<retrospectacus>because apache2 can now write there?
17:23<valdyn>retrospectacus: yes, because theres no reason why you would cancel the security gained by running apache2 in a special group
17:24<valdyn>s/cancel/partially cancel/
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17:25<retrospectacus>so he should make another group and use that instead
17:25<valdyn>retrospectacus: yes
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17:40<retrospectacus>hdb2: what valdyn said
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17:50<zeleboba>Hello ,i was installing all pack and updates php5,mysql,apache, how i can instal phpadmin?
17:50<zeleboba>apt-get install phpmyadmin ?
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17:54<sney>zeleboba, if you try to run apt-get install and the package name is invalid, it doesn't break anything. so you don't need to ask, you can just try. you should also try 'apt-cache search'
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17:57<jthomas>i just dist-upgraded on Sid and MySQL won't start, any thoughts? i don't see errors in /var/log/mysql/ stuff
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17:59<sney>jthomas, sid support is in #debian-next, also check bugs.debian.org to see if anyone has reported the same issue.
17:59<jthomas>thanks!
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18:58<zeleboba>Hello,where is file php.ini in the Apache Debiant ?
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19:02<dondelelcaro>zeleboba: in /etc/php5/apache2/
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20:10<stringtheory>hi
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20:11<stringtheory>is there a channel for KDE users?
20:11<stringtheory>I'm trying to get a little familiar with KDE 4, for squeeze.
20:12<stringtheory>I didn't anticipate it being quite so radically different to Gnome (though I like it and will persevere with it).
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20:31<zeleboba>Hello , i have installed php, mysql, How i can to access in the site/phpmyadnim to chek ?
20:32<stringtheory>bst_, thanks
20:32<zeleboba>I have php script in www directory, but it is does'nt work
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20:44<leeeeeeeeeeeeeee>ls
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22:00<scientes>what does set -e do?
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22:16<ChrisKnadle>scientes: have a look at the man page for bash for the 'set' statement.
22:16<ChrisKnadle>scientes: (I can't be more specific because I forget what set -e does, but I think it has something to do with echoing output
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22:22<ChrisKnadle>scientes: set -e will cause the script to exit if any command returns a non-true value
22:22<ChrisKnadle>scientes: http://www.davidpashley.com/articles/writing-robust-shell-scripts.html
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22:55<peek>hi there
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