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| 01:02 | <meglaw> | help pls? i broke my fstab somehow and now it wont boot |
| 01:02 | <bones_was_here> | please post your fstab |
| 01:03 | <nevyn> | to paste.debian.net or similar not in the channel |
| 01:04 | <meglaw> | yeah, thats kind of hard when box wont boot... |
| 01:05 | <meglaw> | i can go into single user mode |
| 01:05 | <meglaw> | but, then its only read |
| 01:05 | <meglaw> | cant get remout to work |
| 01:06 | <bones_was_here> | well if you use your read only single user access to post your fstab, someone might be able to tell you what's wrong with it ;) |
| 01:06 | <meglaw> | if net is up at that point |
| 01:07 | <bones_was_here> | you could just do it by hand, fstab is generally not very big :p |
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| 01:10 | <meglaw> | yeah ok no net |
| 01:10 | <meglaw> | so help me remount to rw so i can fix it, pls. :) |
| 01:13 | <bones_was_here> | mount -o rw,remount |
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| 01:14 | <bones_was_here> | normally after that you would put the mount point or device, but that depends on fstab, and may not work depending how broken it is :p |
| 01:15 | <bones_was_here> | so you might have to be all, mount -o rw,remount /dev/mapper/yourrootvol / (assuming you dont have /etc on a separate volume...) |
| 01:16 | <meglaw> | either im missing some syntax or that did not work |
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| 01:17 | <bones_was_here> | well you did not post what happened or what exactly you tried, so nobody can say why it did not work |
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| 01:18 | <meglaw> | its hard since i cant copypaste |
| 01:18 | <meglaw> | so i go mount -o rw,remount |
| 01:18 | <bones_was_here> | but you can type, right? |
| 01:18 | <meglaw> | "unregognicesed mount option "0" |
| 01:18 | <meglaw> | or missing value |
| 01:19 | <bones_was_here> | well its a lower case letter rather than a zero |
| 01:19 | <bones_was_here> | and you did specify the volume containing /etc after the command ? |
| 01:19 | <meglaw> | i piped in a o |
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| 01:20 | <meglaw> | mount -o rw,remount /etc/fstab? |
| 01:20 | <bones_was_here> | no, fstab isn't a filesystem or mount point |
| 01:20 | <bones_was_here> | assuming you have /etc on your / filesystem, the command would be mount -o rw,remount / |
| 01:22 | <meglaw> | well that told my my fstab was fucked |
| 01:22 | <meglaw> | ohh |
| 01:22 | <meglaw> | yeah "mount -o rw,remount /" |
| 01:22 | <meglaw> | gives ne a help pages |
| 01:22 | <meglaw> | same as -h i guess |
| 01:23 | <bones_was_here> | probably you should post your fstab ;) |
| 01:23 | <josephseraos> | nevyn, Thank you very much. I'm going to bed. See ya |
| 01:23 | <meglaw> | bones_was_here: AS A .JPG THEN |
| 01:23 | <meglaw> | ;) |
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| 01:28 | <meglaw> | http://i.imgur.com/pboUb.jpg |
| 01:28 | <meglaw> | so |
| 01:28 | <meglaw> | thers my fstab |
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| 01:30 | <bones_was_here> | most of your lines omit the <options> field, including the root |
| 01:31 | <bones_was_here> | by default the options string for root is errors=remount-ro |
| 01:31 | <bones_was_here> | but just putting "defaults" as your options string for each filesystem (like you have for sdc1) will work |
| 01:33 | <meglaw> | what, like on hardware adress / ext 0 0 i should out " hardware adress / defaults ext3 0 0 |
| 01:33 | <meglaw> | seems resanable |
| 01:34 | <meglaw> | so. back to being able to write that |
| 01:34 | <meglaw> | disk in rescuemode? since my system wont accept the noral way |
| 01:35 | <bones_was_here> | fstab depends on the amount of arguments on each line, if you leave out the options, it thinks ext3 is the option and that the last number is missing |
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| 01:36 | <bones_was_here> | try doing 'blkid' |
| 01:36 | <bones_was_here> | this should list UUIDs |
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| 01:37 | <bones_was_here> | hopefully the first UUID in your fstab matches one of them |
| 01:38 | <bones_was_here> | to the left of it in the blkid output, is the actual block device in /dev/ |
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| 01:40 | <bones_was_here> | once you have checked it, you can do (eg) mount -o rw,remount /dev/sda1 / |
| 01:40 | <bones_was_here> | which should not depend on fstab |
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| 01:44 | <EmleyMoor> | I am using a backported kernel and just rebooted after it was updated. Now gdm3 fails to start, reporting WARNING ** : Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager, then Could not acquire name, bailing out. How can I resolve this? |
| 01:45 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... it's an nvidia module problem, it seems |
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| 01:47 | <jbrelin> | Hey, all. I have a question to follow. Browsing docs hasn't revealed anything comprehensible. |
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| 01:48 | <jbrelin> | I use the debian-multimedia repositories in addition to official. But the version of VLC in debian-multimedia has a bug and I want to use the higher versioned release in the regular Debian repository. How do I install that version this one time? |
| 01:48 | <jbrelin> | 'apt-cache show vlc' shows me both versions, but the lower rev one in the marillat repository is the one installed. |
| 01:50 | <bones_was_here> | i forget, but in aptitude curses interface you can press + above the version u want |
| 01:50 | <bones_was_here> | then g twice to install it |
| 01:50 | <jbrelin> | Aptitude is a nightmare, but I'll see if it makes a mess. |
| 01:50 | <jbrelin> | (It always removes a bunch of crap... it doesn't like unstable.) |
| 01:50 | <bones_was_here> | works fine here |
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| 01:51 | <jbrelin> | Sometimes after an update, there will be a hundred packages marked for removal that are perfectly good and necessary packages. I wait a few days and they are unmarked for removal. |
| 01:51 | <bones_was_here> | probably your packages aren't marked properly |
| 01:52 | <bones_was_here> | something you expect not to be marked auto, is marked auto |
| 01:52 | <jbrelin> | aptitude is only showing one version. |
| 01:53 | <EmleyMoor> | What do I do to get the nvidia module done for the new kernel? I have nvidia-kernel-dkms installed |
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| 01:54 | <bones_was_here> | which version? |
| 01:55 | <EmleyMoor> | Erm... |
| 01:55 | <jbrelin> | I found a way to show both versions, bones_was_here , but then aptitude wanted to remove a hundred packages that I do not want removed... so I backed out. |
| 01:56 | <jbrelin> | This is something that happens intermittently... I assumed it was just Life With Unstable because in a few days, apt will be perfectly happy with those same packages. |
| 01:56 | <EmleyMoor> | (ah, I take it that question wasn't to me) |
| 01:56 | <bones_was_here> | unfortunately i'm at work and don't have time to determine why you're seeing that atm... |
| 01:56 | <bones_was_here> | it isn't normal though |
| 01:57 | <jbrelin> | Well, that's a hassle I'd surely like fixed. |
| 01:57 | <jbrelin> | But another day! |
| 01:57 | <bones_was_here> | when aptitude has a problem, generally it means there is a problem, rather than 'aptitude is weird' :P |
| 01:57 | <jbrelin> | Well, I figured it was an issue with how the Packages files are sometimes just a little whack in Unstable. |
| 01:58 | <bones_was_here> | also the channel for that would be #debian-next, #debian is supposed to be just for stable |
| 01:58 | <jbrelin> | I didn't think it was an aptitude problem... just that aptitude wouldn't let me ignore this occasional quirk. |
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| 01:58 | <jbrelin> | Anyway... how does apt choose which repository it uses to get vlc? Why does it always get it from debian-multimedia instead of debian.org? |
| 01:59 | <meglaw> | fixed it |
| 01:59 | <jbrelin> | The apt and apt.sources documentation wasn't at all clear on this. |
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| 01:59 | <jbrelin> | I have no apt.preferences set. |
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| 02:01 | <jbrelin> | I just want to play videos from a samba share, damnit. |
| 02:02 | <bones_was_here> | yeah i forget how repo priority works :p i think i have debian-multimedia at home, but since i install stuff via aptitude i just select the version i want, which is usually the official version |
| 02:02 | <jbrelin> | The only thing that ever worked for me was vlc, but there's a bug in 2.0.0-1. It's fixed in later versions, but debian-multimedia hasn't packaged it yet while debian.org has. |
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| 02:02 | <meglaw> | http://pastebin.com/WfwJwBfQ |
| 02:03 | <meglaw> | fixed it! |
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| 02:06 | <bones_was_here> | meglaw: you probably have no swap mounted, because of the W in front of UUID |
| 02:06 | <bones_was_here> | i expect the free program will show 0 for swap |
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| 02:07 | <bones_was_here> | also you should prefer UUID (or some other nonvolatile identifier), the /dev/sd* letters can change depending on the order your BIOS detects disks |
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| 02:13 | <bones_was_here> | EmleyMoor: check out the man page for dkms, you can tell it to do useful stuff with any module it manages, eg the dkms build command by default does a build for the currently running kernel |
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| 02:28 | <jbrelin> | So can anyone here tell me how apt chooses which repository to use for a given package (assuming two are available and no apt.preferences exists)? |
| 02:32 | <lzh> | update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header |
| 02:32 | <lzh> | dpkg: error processing the mysql-server - 5.1 (- configure): |
| 02:32 | <lzh> | Subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 02:32 | <lzh> | configured to not write apport reports dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server can not continue: |
| 02:32 | <lzh> | mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.1;: |
| 02:32 | <dpkg> | lzh: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 02:32 | -!- | lzh was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
| 02:34 | <jm_> | jbrelin: man apt_preferences explains it |
| 02:36 | <jbrelin> | jo_: can you tell me how to override it for a special case, one time only? |
| 02:36 | <jbrelin> | jo_: the version of VLC in debian-multimedia is not as up-to-date as the one in debian.org, so I'd like to see if a bug is fixed there. |
| 02:37 | <jm_> | assuming you are asking me, try using the apt* install foo=version syntax |
| 02:37 | <jm_> | but if the version in debian really is newer why is apt not picking it up then? |
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| 02:38 | <jbrelin> | jm_: sorry. The color in my client made the letter difficult to discern. My deep apologies. |
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| 02:39 | <jbrelin> | jm_: I can't figure it out, honestly. debian.org says 2.0.0-6 while marillat says 2.0.0-0.1 |
| 02:39 | <jm_> | I don't see vlc in dmm for squeeze |
| 02:39 | <jm_> | !bat jbrelin |
| 02:39 | <jm_> | blah I always forget |
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| 02:39 | <jm_> | !bat |
| 02:39 | <dpkg> | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 02:39 | <jm_> | jbrelin: ^^^^^^ |
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| 02:40 | <jbrelin> | jm_: reading. Thanks. By the way, it's vlc in unstable versus vlc in debian-multimedia/unstable. |
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| 02:41 | <jm_> | jbrelin: ahh right |
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| 02:43 | <jbrelin> | http://paste.debian.net/159939/ |
| 02:43 | <jbrelin> | Can anyone make heads or tails of that? |
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| 02:44 | <segv> | so brainfarting |
| 02:44 | <segv> | ther eis an app to create a stock debian/ dir in a .deb src tree |
| 02:44 | <segv> | anyone remember it? |
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| 02:45 | <jbrelin> | jm_: Did you see my paste? I don't understand why the higher version is not being selected or even a candidate. |
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| 02:46 | <jm_> | jbrelin: note the leading 1: - it's called epoch, so dpkg --compare-versions '2.0.0-6' '>' '1:2.0.0-0.1' |
| 02:46 | <jm_> | followed by echo $? |
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| 02:48 | <jbrelin> | jm_: I didn't understand the leading 1:. I was thinking it must be there because it was the installed version rather than being part of the version string itself. |
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| 02:48 | <anonymous> | anonymous dz |
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| 02:50 | <jbrelin> | jm_: Returned 1. So it's not actually a greater version? Do I have to use pinning to get this version of vlc or is there a one-time approach? |
| 02:50 | <jm_> | jbrelin: indeed, it's not; did you try using foo=version syntax that I mentioned above? |
| 02:51 | <jbrelin> | jm_: I didn't understand the syntax mentioned, but now I get it. As in -- apt-get install vlc=2.0.0-6 ? |
| 02:52 | <jm_> | jbrelin: correct |
| 02:52 | <jbrelin> | jm_: Where can I read about this epoch in versions? |
| 02:52 | <anonymous> | :p |
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| 02:52 | <anonymous> | vlc for linx |
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| 02:52 | <jm_> | jbrelin: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version |
| 02:53 | <jbrelin> | jm_: With an added dependent package as well, this foo=version command appears to do the trick. |
| 02:53 | <anonymous> | thank's |
| 02:53 | <jbrelin> | jm_: Thank you for the pointers and instruction. I am very grateful. |
| 02:53 | <jm_> | jbrelin: no worries |
| 02:54 | <anonymous> | jm ;) are u have skype ! |
| 02:54 | <jm_> | anonymous: no |
| 02:54 | <anonymous> | ok no problem |
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| 02:57 | <jbrelin> | jm_: For the sake of humor, I share with you: The damned bug is still there. Fixed in vlc sources, but in neither Debian package. So all in vain. But I learned a lot and that'll surely come in handy later. |
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| 03:15 | <anonymous> | attack computer on ip |
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| 04:01 | <db6sda8> | class ABC: |
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| 04:05 | <intore> | morning, i need help to configure iptables |
| 04:06 | <intore> | is there someone please? |
| 04:08 | <db6sda8> | what do you want? |
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| 04:09 | <intore> | i configured iptables to have 2 net interfaces, one external, one internal. this the configuration |
| 04:10 | <intore> | http://paste.debian.net/159943/ |
| 04:10 | <intore> | but i can't ping any internet site |
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| 04:11 | <intore> | what is wrong? |
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| 04:12 | <db6sda8> | iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -j ACCEPT |
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| 04:13 | <jm_> | there are many things wrong with that, try using the script from iptables tutorial as your base instead |
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| 04:14 | <jm_> | there was a package that made it easy to configure simple nat/masq. setups but I think it has been removed from squeeze |
| 04:14 | <intore> | could you tell me what is wrong please? |
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| 04:19 | <nevyn> | ipmasq it got dropped :( |
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| 04:44 | <davromaniak> | good morning |
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| 04:45 | <davromaniak> | when I try to mount a DVD using "mount -t iso9660-o ro /dev/scd0 /mnt/dvdrom", some uppercase (not all) letters are switching to lowercase |
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| 04:48 | <wigs> | davromaniak: that command should be all typed in lowercase, what is the question sorry? |
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| 04:58 | <davromaniak> | wigs: I found the issue |
| 04:58 | <davromaniak> | the DVD was in rockridge, which is a iso9660 extension |
| 04:59 | <davromaniak> | I had to use the option "norock" to mount it |
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| 05:40 | <gia> | !list |
| 05:40 | <dpkg> | gia: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.4-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 06:24 | <DragonDon_> | Greetings all! |
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| 06:28 | <anonymous> | hi |
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| 06:49 | * | ratnick has setup a machine with squeeze, gdm, and xdm for starters, selecting only system utilities, and aptitude during net install. smaller footprint. |
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| 07:08 | <ayaka> | does /var/log/kern.log means the log of kernel, does chroot have this file |
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| 07:09 | <Myon> | ayaka: usually you don't have any syslogs in a chroot |
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| 07:10 | <ayaka> | Myon it means kernel will not print it into syslog in the chroot? |
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| 07:11 | <ayaka> | it will print into it host syslog |
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| 07:17 | <Hunter-Eric> | Salut |
| 07:18 | <Hunter-Eric> | #bashfr |
| 07:18 | <cthuluh> | salut. beware, this is an english speaking chan |
| 07:18 | <Hunter-Eric> | Okay no problem but my english is bad , i think :S |
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| 07:19 | <ayaka> | Myon thank you |
| 07:20 | <DragonDon_> | that's what Google translate is for...although maybe your English is better than it :) |
| 07:20 | <Hunter-Eric> | I don't use google but the english classes :) |
| 07:21 | <DragonDon_> | Consider using Google Translate and a supplementary when you are NOT in class :) |
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| 07:23 | <DragonDon_> | question: when rsync'ing from one lan comp to the local one you are logged into, if you are currently in the directory you want to copy files to, what syntax do you use(if any) to express that? |
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| 07:24 | <Hunter-Eric> | Yes :) i dont't understand this sentence :S but i go eating . Thanks for my first experience on IRC chat |
| 07:24 | <DragonDon_> | you are welcome! |
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| 07:25 | <wigs> | DragonDon_: test it ;-) |
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| 07:25 | <DragonDon_> | wigs: heh |
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| 07:35 | <hbomb> | Good day. I want to install and configure Ampache but I get PHP PutEnv Not Found, how can I provide that? |
| 07:35 | <hbomb> | actually, it reads 'PHP putenv Support: ERROR' |
| 07:37 | <gdb> | hbomb: Not sure if this is your issue, but http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.gettext.php indicates that you need to install locales-all on Debian. |
| 07:38 | <DragonDon_> | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%27PHP+putenv+Support%3A+%09ERROR%27 |
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| 07:40 | <hbomb> | DragonDon_ thanks yeah, i tried that. |
| 07:40 | <DragonDon_> | :) |
| 07:41 | <gdb> | hbomb: apt-get install locales-all |
| 07:41 | <gdb> | hbomb: see if that helps :-) |
| 07:42 | <hbomb> | gdb i just did, and restarted Apache2, but that didn't resolve it |
| 07:42 | <DragonDon_> | what's the best way to list files on another linux machine on a lan? ls <ip> obviously doens't work |
| 07:42 | <gdb> | DragonDon_: ssh $host ls /path/to/files |
| 07:43 | <hbomb> | DragonDon_: lemme google that fer ya |
| 07:43 | <gdb> | or $user@$host anyway |
| 07:43 | * | gdb laughs |
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| 07:43 | <DragonDon_> | HEH...yeah |
| 07:43 | <gdb> | hbomb: I don't know then, I'm afraid. I guess my own Google-fu is failing. That's all I could come up with. |
| 07:43 | <hbomb> | more than I got. thanks much for the thoguht, I'll dig some more i guess |
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| 07:44 | <DragonDon_> | is ssh really necessary? seems rather overkill for a local/trusted lan |
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| 07:45 | <gdb> | DragonDon_: Well, I suppose you can use rsh, but I don't know that many folks use that anymore. |
| 07:45 | <gdb> | I've never considered ssh overkill for anything. |
| 07:46 | <hbomb> | ssh, absolutely. it's the connection you're using to run the ls command. you need to run it over something, and your options are really only ssh or telnet, and telnet isn't really an option that should ever be considered |
| 07:46 | <DragonDon_> | ah, thanks |
| 07:46 | <gdb> | telnet also requires an interactive login -- ssh doesn't |
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| 07:51 | <xiewanchen> | The prompt message is that "start :Job failed to start |
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| 07:53 | <gdb> | xiewanchen: Yeah, I checked the box, clicked submit, and nothing happened. Can you help me out with that? |
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| 07:56 | <roughnecks> | hello |
| 07:58 | <ayaka> | kernel: [ 3.264036] EXT3-fs (mmcblk1p2): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240) |
| 07:58 | <ayaka> | what is up |
| 07:59 | <OpenTokix> | ayaka: can you show the row in fstab? |
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| 08:00 | <gdb> | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/couldnt-mount-because-of-unsupported-optional-features-240-a-843675/ |
| 08:00 | <gdb> | That's for ayaka |
| 08:01 | <gdb> | Reason and solution given (and you can ignore it anyway) |
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| 08:05 | <ayaka> | gdb OprnTokix thank you |
| 08:06 | <ayaka> | then i see it mount it in vold path |
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| 08:08 | <ayaka> | if i don't define in grub, will kernel search it |
| 08:08 | <ayaka> | if i don't define init in grub, will kernel search it |
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| 08:34 | <pedro> | /server irc.irc-hispano.org |
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| 08:36 | <microbe> | Hi there .. If a debian server has his disk full, is it possible that the server totally freeze ? |
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| 08:38 | <microbe> | even physically frozen, black screen etc? |
| 08:39 | <andrew> | Hi. I know this might not be the best place to ask but is there anywhere I can find the docs for c++ programming with gtkmm2.4? Every link I find redirects to docs on gtkmm 3 which does not help me |
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| 08:45 | <ratnick> | Hi, I need to post a screenshot of an undefined gui return of a call |
| 08:47 | <ayaka> | mirco no, some,serve don't need write, only can't write its log |
| 08:47 | <microbe> | http://image.bayimg.com/gandpaadf.jpg i got this screen after hard-reset |
| 08:47 | <microbe> | any idea ? |
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| 08:50 | <teee> | if your webserver's DNS service stopped responding for about 20 minutes each night, what would be your first instinct as far as possible reasons |
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| 08:50 | <ratnick> | teee: A DNS attack |
| 08:51 | <ratnick> | known as a DOS |
| 08:52 | <petemc> | i would just look at the logs |
| 08:52 | <petemc> | if i had access to them |
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| 08:55 | * | ratnick inserted an audio cd and had Totem open it. Error msg: Totem was not able to play this disk No Reason |
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| 08:56 | <ratnick> | wtf? |
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| 08:57 | <wigs> | microbe: hard disk has failed? |
| 09:00 | <ayaka> | mircobe it seems your disk can't be found |
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| 09:02 | <microbe> | erf :/ never try to connect an IDE cable upside |
| 09:02 | * | ratnick uninstalled Totem and Brasero, installed Rhythmbox. Now has music cd |
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| 09:03 | <gdb> | teee: For exactly 20 minutes, every night, at the same time? |
| 09:04 | * | ratnick cdrom is a player and not a writer! |
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| 09:07 | <teee> | gdb: yep. |
| 09:07 | <teee> | gdb: I just wanted first thoughts. I haven't really dug into it yet. |
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| 09:09 | <gdb> | teee: My first thought would not be any kind of attack, then, but a scheduled job kicking off that impacts performance (like a backup or somesuch). |
| 09:10 | <agatewood> | Hello, is there any hardware burnin packages for squeeze? |
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| 09:12 | <gdb> | agatewood: http://www.passmark.com/products/bitlinux.htm -- This seems to be one. I'm not familiar with it. On IRIX, I used to use Pandora. |
| 09:13 | <agatewood> | gdb: Thank You. I will take a look at it. |
| 09:13 | <gdb> | Someone here suggests compiling the kernel over and over: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/2004-February/065026.html |
| 09:14 | <gdb> | That's a qood question, agatewood. I'm not familiar with anything Free that's for doing burn-in tests of servers before they enter production. |
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| 09:15 | <Gh0sty_> | there was something called cpuburn in the past |
| 09:16 | <gdb> | Ah, here's something called Inquisitor, but it's apparently not been updated in 3 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisitor_(hardware_testing_software) |
| 09:16 | <ayaka> | well maybe dpkg will record this after this question |
| 09:17 | <gdb> | Not packaged for Debian, though (at least not in 'main'). |
| 09:17 | <gdb> | (well any official repository) |
| 09:17 | <gdb> | http://www.inquisitor.ru/about/ -- here's the page, it's GPL3 so free |
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| 09:18 | <craigevil> | cpuburn is in the normal debian repos |
| 09:19 | <rev> | cpuburn++ |
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| 09:20 | <gdb> | Which would be one component of a complete burn-in suite, yes. |
| 09:21 | <rev> | and memtest86 is another |
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| 09:23 | <ayaka> | it is hard to think memtest86 is that kind of program, i reguard it only as mem test |
| 09:24 | <gdb> | Hard to think of it as what kind of program? |
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| 09:24 | <ayaka> | burnin |
| 09:24 | <gdb> | memtest86 works by doing a "burn" test of your memory and reporting any failures. It's certainly useful to use as part of a burn-in cycle. |
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| 09:26 | <ayaka> | gdb i see, but i never use it, i think it is a slow one, so i often disable it in grub menu |
| 09:26 | <gdb> | er... okay |
| 09:27 | <ayaka> | if i don't defind init in grub cmd, will kernel find it? |
| 09:27 | <rev> | exhaustive does not mean slow, it may take a long time however. |
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| 09:28 | <gdb> | ayaka: Do you mean init or initrd? |
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| 09:29 | <ayaka> | gdb first one |
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| 09:29 | <ayaka> | gdb the initrd program has been solved by create an empty fake initrd |
| 09:30 | <ayaka> | gdb the initrd problem has been solved by create an empty fake initrd |
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| 09:31 | <gdb> | ayaka: By default, if you don't tell the kernel where init is, it will look for /bin/init. It's not defined in grub.cfg by default. |
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| 09:32 | <ayaka> | gdb but the ini is in /sbin/ |
| 09:32 | <ayaka> | s/create/creating i wish i write the correct sed |
| 09:32 | <ayaka> | gdb so it can't boot? |
| 09:34 | <gdb> | Sorry, perhaps it's /sbin/init then. It's hardcoded in the kernel. |
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| 09:35 | <ayaka> | gdb thank you, then i shall re-guest what is the problem |
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| 09:44 | <ayaka> | Mar 16 09:57:10 MINAMO kernel: [ 2678.865678] sd_blk_issue_rq: ---(sd-qd) start sector=20137223, size 8, total time=813476 microseconds |
| 09:44 | <ayaka> | what is it means |
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| 10:10 | <gdb> | ayaka: You always seem to have the most bizarre issues. |
| 10:11 | <intore> | dear all, i configured a server with debian squeeze with 2 network interfaces. i need that the clients go on internet using the the gateway eth0 192.168.5.1 and the second network interface with public address but it doesn't run, the client don't go on internet. following here you can see /etc/network/interfaces and a script for iptables, could you help me please? |
| 10:11 | <intore> | http://paste.debian.net/159975/ |
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| 10:12 | <intore> | the server has also dhcpd, squid and dansguardian installed |
| 10:12 | <ayaka> | gdb yes I can never follow the guide from I learning computer |
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| 10:13 | <gdb> | intore: what does /sbin/sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward say? |
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| 10:13 | <ayaka> | intore the second eth is eth5? |
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| 10:14 | <intore> | yes |
| 10:14 | <intore> | /sbin/sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward |
| 10:14 | <intore> | net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 |
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| 10:14 | <rev> | he sets in on line 45 (in his pastebin) |
| 10:14 | <gdb> | Doh! |
| 10:14 | <ayaka> | intore how about dns |
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| 10:16 | <petemc> | ayaka: i would try to get one thing going at a time |
| 10:16 | <intore> | good question! eth5 get the ip with dhcp, is not enough this? |
| 10:16 | <petemc> | intore: ^^^ |
| 10:16 | <ayaka> | gdb i think his iptable is correct, but i am not sure, do i do the correct judgement |
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| 10:17 | <gdb> | Looks fine to me but I don't do much with forwarding. The last time I did was back when we were still using ipchains. |
| 10:17 | <ayaka> | intore about dns the should set it in dhcp and your host |
| 10:17 | <petemc> | intore: try with one iptables rules like: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE |
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| 10:18 | <gdb> | petemc: Is that the one on line 38 in the paste? But dropping all the other rules related to forwarding? |
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| 10:18 | <ayaka> | petemc but i oftem meet different situation like there is no such button in gui and can't accept parem |
| 10:18 | <gdb> | and using a network/mask rather than an iface? |
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| 10:18 | <petemc> | yes |
| 10:18 | <intore> | petemc: is not good line 38 |
| 10:18 | <intore> | ? |
| 10:19 | <intore> | maybe the problem is about dns |
| 10:19 | <petemc> | intore: im suggesting you ensure that one thing is working, then add rules/proxying into the mix |
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| 10:19 | <ayaka> | petemc gdb but how did he let second eth became eth5 |
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| 10:20 | <ayaka> | intore ignore the dns first, please do as petemc ask |
| 10:20 | <gdb> | How is the second interface being eth5 an issue? |
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| 10:21 | <intore> | petemc: am sorry, i don't understand what are you suggesting me |
| 10:21 | <ayaka> | gdb how did you do that, i think it is eth1 |
| 10:21 | <intore> | eth5 is correct |
| 10:22 | <ayaka> | intore remove the rule in 38 replace as petemc said |
| 10:22 | <gdb> | Actually, perhaps that's something to check. |
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| 10:22 | <gdb> | What does /sbin/ifconfig -a | awk '{if ($1 ~ /^eth/) print $1}' say? |
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| 10:22 | <gdb> | So there is an eth5? |
| 10:22 | <gdb> | just checkin'! :-) |
| 10:22 | <rev> | intore: I dont like iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth5 -j ACCEPT |
| 10:23 | <petemc> | intore: im saying dont run your firewall script just yet, ensure you have forwarding working for clients |
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| 10:23 | <rev> | drop the -o eth5 |
| 10:23 | <rev> | and try |
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| 10:23 | <intore> | /sbin/ifconfig -a | awk '{if ($1 ~ /^eth/) print $1}' |
| 10:23 | <rev> | it is gut feeling right now because I dont have time to really look at it |
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| 10:23 | <intore> | eth0 |
| 10:23 | <intore> | eth5 |
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| 10:23 | <rev> | as I am mega busy atm |
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| 10:24 | <intore> | petemc: i will try to substitute line 38 with yours, ok? |
| 10:25 | <petemc> | no |
| 10:25 | <rev> | even the -i eth5 -o eth0 it may not be known to be true at the time of evaluation |
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| 10:25 | <ayaka> | intore stop iptable first, test forwarding |
| 10:25 | <gdb> | intore: petemc is saying to drop all of your configuration, all of it, and just apply the one rule he stated, to test if it's working at all. |
| 10:26 | <petemc> | correct |
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| 10:27 | <intore> | ok, only that rule, i have to disconnect me |
| 10:27 | <intore> | i try and come back |
| 10:27 | <intore> | thank you |
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| 10:28 | <andres_> | windosw 7 |
| 10:29 | <andres_> | olaa |
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| 10:29 | <andres_> | quien eres |
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| 10:30 | <plaNT135> | Want to make fresh installation of squeeze over old one using DVD1, is there a way to keep home with users data intact? |
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| 10:31 | <DragonDon_> | my basic understanding is that it is possible if your /home is on a different partition |
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| 10:31 | <gdb> | plaNT135: If it's not on a separate partition, then you can, but it will be difficult. What you can do is use the rescue mode of the DVD to remove all of the files everywhere except in /home, then during the install, setup your partitions as you'd like them, but do not format anything. Then allow Debian to be reinstalled around the existing /home directory. |
| 10:32 | <gdb> | plaNT135: If it's on a separate partition, just install normally and choose not to format /home. |
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| 10:32 | <plaNT135> | Hmm, thanks |
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| 10:39 | <intore> | here i am, nothing, the client doesn't go on internet |
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| 10:42 | <intore> | i used only the line by petemc |
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| 10:47 | <intore> | any ideas? what could i check? |
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| 10:47 | <nevyn> | can someone verify for me that glknots and glmatrix cause xserver crashes on stable? |
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| 10:48 | <nevyn> | from xscreensavers-gl |
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| 10:50 | <petemc> | intore: can the client ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 10:50 | <rev> | and from the server. |
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| 10:51 | <intore> | i didn't try, i have to disconnect me again. |
| 10:51 | <petemc> | why cant you irc from gateway machine? |
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| 10:52 | <intore> | is it possible only in text mode? |
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| 10:52 | <intore> | but i can't do some paste |
| 10:52 | <intore> | ok |
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| 10:53 | <intore> | wait, i'll come back |
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| 10:53 | <nevyn> | ooh I get a backtrace in the xorg log |
| 10:53 | <nevyn> | awesome |
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| 11:00 | <nevyn> | ook looks like I just messed up the gpu somehow |
| 11:00 | <hymen00> | would anyone care to discuss some bash with me? |
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| 11:00 | <nevyn> | wassup? |
| 11:01 | <hymen00> | i want to create some files what are gonna have part of the same name |
| 11:01 | <nevyn> | right. |
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| 11:02 | <nevyn> | for file in foo fleem bar; do touch firstpart$file; done |
| 11:02 | <hymen00> | something like this $vid-LC-{metadata,feature,trailer}-$title-{,01,02}.{xml,xml2,xml3} |
| 11:02 | <nevyn> | ok.. |
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| 11:02 | <hymen00> | idk how {} is used so idk what that meant exactly |
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| 11:03 | <nevyn> | so see aboe. just nest more for loops |
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| 11:03 | <arand> | hymen00: "foo{bar,baz}" expands to "foobar foobaz" |
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| 11:04 | <hymen00> | but pretty much i want $vid-LC-metadata}-$title-01-xml $vid-LC-feature-$title-01-xml2 $vid-LC-trailer-$title-02-xml2 |
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| 11:07 | <Dmitry> | hello all! |
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| 11:13 | <intore> | petemc: tried to use directly the server but i received the message (you are banned) |
| 11:13 | <intore> | uff! |
| 11:14 | <petemc> | were you root? |
| 11:14 | <intore> | yeeeees |
| 11:14 | <petemc> | try as a normal user |
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| 11:14 | <intore> | ok, thank you, very patient! |
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| 11:16 | <hymen00> | can i nest respectively? |
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| 11:17 | <hymen00> | like {1,2,3} {a,b,c} so that they expand as 1a 2b 3c? |
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| 11:18 | <chiuaua> | heyy |
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| 11:18 | <arand> | hymen00: you can easily test using "echo {1,2,3}{a,b,c}" |
| 11:18 | <chiuaua> | k tl? |
| 11:18 | <el> | houu |
| 11:18 | <chiuaua> | ola el |
| 11:18 | <chiuaua> | xd |
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| 11:19 | <el_negro_zumbon> | ttt |
| 11:19 | <chiuaua> | hey |
| 11:19 | <chiuaua> | braslink |
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| 11:19 | <babilen> | !es-social chiuaua, el_negro_zumbon |
| 11:19 | <dpkg> | chiuaua, el_negro_zumbon: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
| 11:19 | <chiuaua> | busco sexo con una boxer |
| 11:19 | <hymen00> | i did but the output is "1a 1b 1c 2a 2b 2c 3a 3b 3c" but thats not the result i want |
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| 11:19 | <el_negro_zumbon> | edff |
| 11:19 | <el_negro_zumbon> | fd |
| 11:19 | <el_negro_zumbon> | df |
| 11:19 | <chiuaua> | hello i have a cuestion |
| 11:19 | -!- | chiuaua was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste] |
| 11:19 | <el_negro_zumbon> | d |
| 11:19 | <el_negro_zumbon> | hello |
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| 11:24 | <arand> | hymen00: It appears you can nest, yes, though it might be a bit ugly |
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| 11:26 | <hymen00> | um im new to bash so i might be using the wrong terms maybe. ill try to explain in english |
| 11:26 | <arand> | Hmm, well, nesting wouldn't relly do it either, I guess |
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| 11:27 | <anonymous> | hi |
| 11:27 | <arand> | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/bash-brace-expansion has some info, but not really pertaining to this.. |
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| 11:29 | <babilen> | hymen00: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide and in particular http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Patterns (→ Brace Expansion) |
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| 11:32 | <hymen00> | can i expand a,b,c and 1,2,3 into "a1 b2 c3"? |
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| 11:33 | <arand> | Maybe: for i in a b c; do j=1; echo -n "$i$j "; let j++; done |
| 11:33 | <babilen> | hymen00: I would also recommend #bash on irc.freenode.net as this is hardly a Debian specific issue and you find many bash gurus over there |
| 11:33 | <arand> | So it's not going to be pretty |
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| 11:35 | <hymen00> | @babilen sorry didnt mean to clutter in here just didnt where to get quick help |
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| 11:35 | <babilen> | hymen00: No problem -- Just wanted to mention that there is a channel specifically for bash |
| 11:37 | <arand> | hymen00: The thing I wrote above does what you ask, and I don't think there are prettier ways to do that in bash :/ |
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| 11:39 | <andrea_> | hello |
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| 11:39 | <andrea_> | I am following this pipeline http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k to install the ath9k driver on my iMac debian machine |
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| 11:40 | <andrea_> | I fail at step 3 |
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| 11:41 | <andrea_> | andrea@MN-Andrea-Deb:~$ /sbin/iwconfiglo no wireless extensions. |
| 11:41 | <andrea_> | eth0 no wireless extensions. |
| 11:41 | <babilen> | andrea_: How so? Could you paste relevant output and information to http://paste.debian.net please? Please include the output of "lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network", "ifconfig -a", "iwconfig" and "lsmod" |
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| 11:41 | <eshat> | Hi all, can people around the world help me measuring the speed of a server? Please give me you country plus Download Speed of "wget http://lunix.math.uni-bielefeld.de/file.data" |
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| 11:42 | <eshat> | for example: Germany 11.2 MB/s |
| 11:42 | <eshat> | (it's a debian realted question) |
| 11:42 | <andrea_> | Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... |
| 11:42 | <andrea_> | Try `grep --help' for more information. |
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| 11:43 | <babilen> | andrea_: Uh? |
| 11:43 | <andrea_> | the outpu of lspci -nn is |
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| 11:43 | <andrea_> | 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9300 Wireless LAN adaptor [168c:0030] (rev 01) |
| 11:44 | <andrea_> | @babilen lspci -knn|grep -A2 gave an error |
| 11:44 | <babilen> | andrea_: Please paste it all to http://paste.debian.net -- It is much easier to refer to that later :) -- And "lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network" should work. You most likely made a mistake. Please paste your exact commands and their output :) |
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| 11:44 | <eshat> | andrea_: remove the quotes maybe |
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| 11:44 | <babilen> | andrea_: It is "lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network" not "lspci -knn|grep -A2" |
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| 11:45 | <andrea_> | ok, thank you, I try |
| 11:45 | <intore> | here i am |
| 11:46 | <intore> | petemc: am on the server |
| 11:46 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/159990/ |
| 11:47 | <babilen> | andrea_: Ok, what about "ifconfig -a", "iwconfig" and please also "modprobe -r ath9k ; modprobe ath9k ; dmesg | tail -n 23" (hmm, best run that last command before the others) ? |
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| 11:50 | <babilen> | andrea_: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=106b:009a -- It looks as if there is no kernel support, but lets check in more detail. |
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| 11:50 | <babilen> | andrea_: I clearly need more coffee -- Please excuse and ignore that misnformation. |
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| 11:51 | <andrea_> | mmm |
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| 11:51 | <babilen> | andrea_: You do, however, need a newer kernel for that particular wireless adaptor (cf. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:0030) -- You can easily install a backported one (/msg dpkg bdo) by following the instructions in "/msg dpkg bdo kernel" |
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| 11:52 | <intore> | i've to quit |
| 11:52 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/159992/ |
| 11:53 | <babilen> | andrea_: Yeah -- you need a newer kernel. (see above) |
| 11:53 | <andrea_> | sorry, I am confused |
| 11:54 | <intore> | am sorry, i'll be here tomorrow morning |
| 11:54 | <andrea_> | if I understand |
| 11:54 | <intore> | ciao |
| 11:54 | <andrea_> | a) I update the kernel |
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| 11:54 | <andrea_> | b) i laungh iwconfig |
| 11:54 | <andrea_> | right? |
| 11:56 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/159993/ |
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| 12:05 | <andrea_> | How could I install backports? |
| 12:06 | <dvs> | !tell andrea_ about backports |
| 12:06 | <andrea_> | My problem is that I cannot access repositories |
| 12:07 | <andrea_> | This is due to some kind of firewall |
| 12:07 | <andrea_> | so I am trying to move to a wifi connection |
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| 12:08 | <andrea_> | but my kernel seems to be outdated, so I cannot install the driver for my ath9k |
| 12:08 | * | dvs starts to sing "There's a hole in the bucket..." |
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| 12:08 | <andrea_> | If i need a backport I will be required to launch apt-get |
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| 12:09 | <anonymous> | so |
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| 12:09 | <dvs> | andrea_: Or you could install the .deb package by downloading it directly. But there could be dependencies. |
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| 12:09 | <andrea_> | mmm |
| 12:09 | <andrea_> | it's a big problem |
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| 12:10 | <dvs> | without even access to the Internet, its a pain |
| 12:10 | <carandraug> | hi! Anyone could give me a hand with Make? How can I check if there's a library available at build time? It's looking much more complicated than I thought at start |
| 12:10 | <andrea_> | I can access internet, but not the repositories |
| 12:11 | <andrea_> | as an alternative, how could I avoid such firewall |
| 12:11 | <dvs> | how can you access the Internet? Via a browser? |
| 12:11 | <andrea_> | with the eth connection i mean |
| 12:11 | <andrea_> | yes |
| 12:12 | <carandraug> | I read on GNU make manual that -lname sould expand to the right name once found .so or .a. But when I check the content of a variable that should have nly that, it's not expanded to the name |
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| 12:12 | <andrea_> | but now I am connected to xchat with the problematic machine |
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| 12:13 | <andrea_> | the problem occurs only if I try to contact some sources |
| 12:13 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: repositories are accessed by HTTP, same as any web page. |
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| 12:13 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: pastebin your sources.list and "apt-get update" output |
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| 12:15 | <andrea_> | sorry, i do not understand (i am too ignorant for debian) |
| 12:15 | <andrea_> | pastebin is a command? |
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| 12:16 | <babilen> | andrea_: Please paste (i.e. copy and paste) your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of "apt-get update" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 12:16 | <retrospectacus> | you made a pastebin before |
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| 12:17 | <babilen> | andrea_: "paste" as we use it here essentially means "paste textual information to http://paste.debian.net and give us the URL" |
| 12:18 | <babilen> | But I have to run now -- Good luck and may you all have a good Friday night :) |
| 12:18 | <retrospectacus> | \o babilen |
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| 12:18 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/159995/ |
| 12:18 | <andrea_> | Ok, thank yuo! |
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| 12:19 | <retrospectacus> | that last line is wrong for sure |
| 12:19 | <retrospectacus> | and you'll need to add "contrib" and maybe "non-free" to some lines |
| 12:20 | <dvs> | and backports |
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| 12:20 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/159996/ |
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| 12:21 | <andrea_> | ah ok |
| 12:21 | <dvs> | oh, don't add "backports" to the existing lines |
| 12:22 | <andrea_> | mmm |
| 12:22 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: 1 sec and I'll show you what it should look like |
| 12:22 | <andrea_> | if i remove the last line its ok? |
| 12:22 | <andrea_> | ok, perfect |
| 12:22 | <andrea_> | thanks |
| 12:22 | <retrospectacus> | definitely, where did that line even come from? |
| 12:22 | <dvs> | andrea_: http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 12:23 | <andrea_> | ehhe from my sick brain i guess :) |
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| 12:25 | <retrospectacus> | try this one andrea_ http://paste.debian.net/plain/159997 |
| 12:26 | <andrea_> | added the line suggested by dvs |
| 12:26 | <andrea_> | here is the result |
| 12:26 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/159999/ |
| 12:27 | <andrea_> | ok, i try |
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| 12:27 | <dvs> | andrea_: Yeah, use retrospectacus file for sources.list |
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| 12:29 | <retrospectacus> | andrea you can install it easily like this: wget -qO- http://paste.debian.net/plain/159997 > /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:30 | <andrea_> | this is what i get http://paste.debian.net/160000/ |
| 12:31 | <retrospectacus> | what the heck... what says ''cd /var/lib/apt/lists/'' |
| 12:32 | <retrospectacus> | (should be nothing except your prompt changes to reflect the pwd) |
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| 12:32 | <andrea_> | the output contains no line |
| 12:32 | <andrea_> | i am in the lists folder now |
| 12:33 | <andrea_> | i don't know |
| 12:34 | <andrea_> | I tryed also to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list file but still got problems |
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| 12:35 | <dvs> | andrea_: Does it look exactly like http://paste.debian.net/plain/159997 ? |
| 12:36 | <andrea_> | yes |
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| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | hmm well it thought it already had that file so it did Ign, but then the file wasn't there |
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| 12:37 | <andrea_> | i also tryed the suggested command to change it automatically |
| 12:37 | <retrospectacus> | try updating again |
| 12:38 | <andrea_> | i tryed also after the automatic change |
| 12:38 | <retrospectacus> | same result? (2: No such file or directory) |
| 12:38 | <andrea_> | even if i try to access some source via web i get a 404 |
| 12:39 | <andrea_> | yes |
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| 12:39 | <retrospectacus> | you are in the USA? |
| 12:39 | <andrea_> | no, germany |
| 12:39 | <retrospectacus> | ok |
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| 12:42 | <andrea_> | is there a way to change protocol of information excanghe (very naif question) |
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| 12:42 | <retrospectacus> | do this, wget -qO- http://paste.debian.net/plain/159997 | sed 's|http.us|ftp.de|' >/etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:42 | <andrea_> | ok |
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| 12:42 | <andrea_> | made, no output |
| 12:43 | <andrea_> | ah ok |
| 12:43 | <retrospectacus> | ok but your sources.list should be changed |
| 12:43 | <retrospectacus> | then apt-get update |
| 12:43 | <andrea_> | you made chances to the file |
| 12:43 | <andrea_> | ok I try |
| 12:43 | <retrospectacus> | will hopefully work good |
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| 12:44 | <andrea_> | no :( |
| 12:44 | <andrea_> | 404 again |
| 12:44 | <retrospectacus> | there was no 404 last time, it was 2: No such file or directory |
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| 12:45 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/160004/ |
| 12:45 | <andrea_> | mmm |
| 12:46 | <gogo40> | Hi, can someone tell me if the malloc is thread-safed? |
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| 12:46 | <andrea_> | also before the sed it was 404, maybe it changed after the substitution of the file ocntent |
| 12:47 | <retrospectacus> | hmm, well get rid of the 2nd line, deb-src http://ftp.de... |
| 12:47 | <andrea_> | ok, i try |
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| 12:48 | <andrea_> | no # in the beginning, it is fine? i this you removed? |
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| 12:49 | <retrospectacus> | put # to "comment it out" |
| 12:49 | <andrea_> | again 404 however |
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| 12:50 | <andrea_> | it looks like this now http://paste.debian.net/160005/ |
| 12:52 | <retrospectacus> | I see what happened, hold on |
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| 12:52 | <andrea_> | ok, i am trying to hold on :) |
| 12:52 | * | dvs is not sure why volitile is from a New York site |
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| 12:54 | <retrospectacus> | alright andrea_ try this http://paste.debian.net/plain/160007 |
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| 12:55 | <andrea_> | (cross my fingers...) :) |
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| 12:55 | <xp> | list |
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| 12:56 | <xp> | ji |
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| 12:56 | <xp> | run |
| 12:57 | <xp> | r u run |
| 12:57 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/160009/ |
| 12:57 | <retrospectacus> | !tell xp about irc tutorial |
| 12:57 | <andrea_> | different error |
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| 12:57 | <xp> | xp |
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| 12:58 | <xp> | fuck |
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| 12:58 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: perfect. That's a warning, you can ignore it |
| 12:58 | <andrea_> | ah |
| 12:59 | <andrea_> | so it worked? |
| 12:59 | <retrospectacus> | yep |
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| 12:59 | <retrospectacus> | what was the original problem? wireless? |
| 12:59 | <andrea_> | mmm, if I try to install skype (for example) I fail |
| 13:00 | <andrea_> | yes, i was trying to set up a wifi connection |
| 13:00 | <retrospectacus> | debian doesn't have skype |
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| 13:00 | <andrea_> | just to see if I overcame the problem |
| 13:00 | <andrea_> | oh, lol |
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| 13:01 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: you *can* install skype, you just have to add their repository to the list file |
| 13:01 | <andrea_> | apt-get install php fails |
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| 13:01 | <andrea_> | ok, thanks. I was trying "a test" |
| 13:01 | <retrospectacus> | um .. php? I though you needed a new kernel or some drivers or something |
| 13:02 | <andrea_> | no no, i am trying now to see if apt-get works now |
| 13:02 | <dvs> | andrea_: That's not how you installl stuff from backports |
| 13:02 | <andrea_> | that is my main problem |
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| 13:02 | <retrospectacus> | please, don't just try random things |
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| 13:03 | <retrospectacus> | dvs: do you know what he needs? I missed the first third of this |
| 13:03 | <andrea_> | you are right, my general scope is to be able to use apt-get |
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| 13:03 | <dvs> | retrospectacus: To get the ath9k wireless drivers (which I'm currently using) |
| 13:03 | <andrea_> | the problem with the kernel what a consequence of the fact that i was trying to overcome my apt-get problem enstablishing a wifi coonnection |
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| 13:04 | <andrea_> | I just want to fix my repositories |
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| 13:06 | <retrospectacus> | dvs: ath9k is in the kernel and needs nothing additional |
| 13:06 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: your repositories are good |
| 13:07 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 13:07 | <andrea_> | ok, thanks |
| 13:07 | <dvs> | retrospectacus: I needed a newer version of the kernel to make my Toshiba Satellite C650D to work. |
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| 13:08 | <andrea_> | they are already updated, it says |
| 13:08 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: iwconfig |
| 13:08 | <andrea_> | i think i need to update my kernel |
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| 13:08 | <andrea_> | i tryed |
| 13:08 | <andrea_> | i can try again and display yuo the output |
| 13:08 | <retrospectacus> | ath9k_htc perhaps |
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| 13:09 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: yes please |
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| 13:09 | <andrea_> | ath9k_htc is it a package? |
| 13:09 | <andrea_> | i try |
| 13:10 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: no it's a driver |
| 13:10 | <retrospectacus> | or a type of wireless chip I guess |
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| 13:10 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/160013/ |
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| 13:11 | <andrea_> | ah ok |
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| 13:11 | <retrospectacus> | brb |
| 13:11 | <andrea_> | but the problem for now is that the kernel module is not loaded |
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| 13:19 | <retrospectacus> | ok I read more history about your problem andrea_ :P yes you need the backport kernel |
| 13:19 | <andrea_> | ah ok |
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| 13:19 | <andrea_> | so i need to modify the file again |
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| 13:21 | <andrea_> | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 13:21 | <andrea_> | can i add the line above? |
| 13:21 | <retrospectacus> | you already have that line |
| 13:22 | <andrea_> | perfect |
| 13:22 | <retrospectacus> | yeah. Now... are you on amd64 or i386 |
| 13:23 | <andrea_> | what package shoul i add? |
| 13:23 | <andrea_> | mmm do you mean the beats? |
| 13:23 | <dvs> | andrea_: uname -r |
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| 13:23 | <dvs> | ooops |
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| 13:23 | <dvs> | andrea_: uname -a |
| 13:24 | <retrospectacus> | uname -m is better, or -a :) |
| 13:24 | <andrea_> | x86_64 |
| 13:24 | <andrea_> | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 13:25 | <retrospectacus> | ok run: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
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| 13:26 | <andrea_> | installing (without verification >.>) |
| 13:27 | <retrospectacus> | cool. next you'll have to reboot into the new kernel (choose it at the bootup GRUB screen) |
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| 13:27 | <andrea_> | update disk device ids? |
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| 13:27 | <luxius> | I know it's possible to pipe to a file, but is it possible to pipe from a log-file to screen? |
| 13:27 | <dvs> | cat? |
| 13:28 | <retrospectacus> | tail -F /log/file |
| 13:28 | <luxius> | oh, my buddy says "tail -f" |
| 13:28 | <andrea_> | unable to mount usb0! |
| 13:28 | <luxius> | right, thank you :D |
| 13:28 | <luxius> | retrospectacus, -f or -F? |
| 13:29 | <retrospectacus> | I prefer -F , it will keep going if the file gets deleted and recreated (usually by logrotate) |
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| 13:29 | <retrospectacus> | but -f is usually fine |
| 13:29 | <andrea_> | http://paste.debian.net/160018/ |
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| 13:29 | <luxius> | retrospectacus, thanks for the clarification, I didn't quite understand --help =) |
| 13:30 | <srtu> | hi, got strange problem after fresh install, aptitude update & upgrade results in errors > http://paste.debian.net/160017/ |
| 13:31 | <andrea_> | it failed |
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| 13:31 | <dvs> | andrea_: every message is not an error message |
| 13:31 | <dvs> | andrea_: aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 13:32 | <retrospectacus> | andrea_: what you pasted is fine, you'll just have to install ^^ |
| 13:32 | <retrospectacus> | !tell srtu about localized errors |
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| 13:33 | <dvs> | andrea_: aptitude -t squeeze-backports install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 13:33 | <dvs> | that' better |
| 13:34 | <andrea_> | launched both |
| 13:34 | <dvs> | only do the second |
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| 13:34 | <andrea_> | i arleady launched the first |
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| 13:34 | <andrea_> | i launched them both :( |
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| 13:35 | <dvs> | as long as the second one was last |
| 13:35 | <andrea_> | do i have to reboot now? |
| 13:35 | <srtu> | sorry, heres the error msg in english > http://paste.debian.net/160019/ |
| 13:35 | <andrea_> | yes, 2nd last |
| 13:35 | <dvs> | andrea_: yes |
| 13:35 | <dvs> | reboot |
| 13:35 | <andrea_> | ok, than it is all fixed? |
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| 13:35 | <dvs> | hopefully |
| 13:36 | <retrospectacus> | srtu: don't try upgrade if update didn't work... |
| 13:36 | <retrospectacus> | srtu: what kind of machine is this? |
| 13:36 | <andrea_> | ok, thank you guys, you have been very helpful |
| 13:36 | <dvs> | ImAC |
| 13:36 | <andrea_> | in case of problems I will be back |
| 13:36 | <srtu> | yeah sure, i am using debian since years, never had problem with update, and don´t know what running wrong, its a fresh install (on a v-server over webif) |
| 13:36 | * | dvs hides |
| 13:37 | <andrea_> | otherwise, thanks again, bye! |
| 13:38 | <srtu> | my sources.lst > http://paste.debian.net/160020/ |
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| 13:40 | <srtu> | 99% [2 Translation-de 1514323/1.514 kB 100%]FATAL -> Failed to fork. ? what the heck sould this mean?? Fork? what Fork? |
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| 13:47 | <valdyn> | srtu: fork is how a new process is created, this means your program crashed |
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| 13:47 | <srtu> | ah OK |
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| 13:48 | <srtu> | one step further, but still no solution, it seems that perl got a problem with localisation, could this be true? |
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| 13:50 | <valdyn> | srtu: we cant say if you dont show us the error |
| 13:51 | <srtu> | the error? the only thing i got is listed above |
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| 13:51 | <valdyn> | srtu: how can it seem like perl has problems with localisation when theres no further output? |
| 13:52 | <gdb> | valdyn: I think he's referring to this: http://paste.debian.net/160019/ |
| 13:52 | <valdyn> | srtu: your perl is broken |
| 13:53 | <valdyn> | srtu: resture from backup |
| 13:53 | <valdyn> | srtu: restore from backup |
| 13:53 | <srtu> | the funny thing is, got no bckup its a fresh install |
| 13:54 | <gdb> | valdyn: Can he try reinstalling debconf? That's the package that owns that file. |
| 13:54 | <valdyn> | srtu: great, so another reinstall is easy |
| 13:54 | <gdb> | I dunno, just thinking out loud. |
| 13:54 | <srtu> | installed it 20 minutes ago (v-server) |
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| 13:54 | <srtu> | guess not the image came from the hoster |
| 13:54 | <valdyn> | gdb: you cant install anything with broken perl iirc |
| 13:54 | <gdb> | ah okay |
| 13:54 | <srtu> | so no chance to repair |
| 13:54 | <valdyn> | gdb: but he can unpack manually |
| 13:55 | <srtu> | so <dpkg reconfiguire perl> maybe? |
| 13:55 | <srtu> | it doesn´t matter if i destroy the whole system ;-) |
| 13:55 | <valdyn> | srtu: yea, but that will likely fail due to perl being broken, try and see |
| 13:56 | <srtu> | one klick and its up again |
| 13:56 | <srtu> | ok i try |
| 13:56 | <gdb> | Unpacking manually means getting the debconf package and unpacking the .deb with BSD ar, then untarring it over your filesystem as root (as dpkg would do when installing it). |
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| 13:56 | <srtu> | ah good idea gdb |
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| 13:56 | <gdb> | Or untarring it in a directory and copying over that Encoding.pm file. |
| 13:57 | <gdb> | doing it 1 file at a time (being conservative) |
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| 13:57 | <gdb> | I'm curious how the installation completed with this issue. |
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| 13:57 | <gdb> | debconf is used extensively while the installer is.. installing the system. |
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| 13:58 | <retrospectacus> | srtu: It looks like your v-server is restricted by its host, cannot create enough processes to run things properly |
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| 14:04 | <anonymous> | hi :) |
| 14:04 | <eightyeight> | hello |
| 14:05 | <srtu> | no i donßt think so, all resources are at ~10% |
| 14:05 | <srtu> | guess the guys who build the images made something wrong |
| 14:06 | <srtu> | guess something with localisation |
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| 14:06 | <retrospectacus> | 7% [2 Release 6934/107 kB 6%]FATAL -> Failed to fork. |
| 14:06 | <retrospectacus> | apt-get update tries to fetch several files at once |
| 14:06 | <srtu> | 49% [4 Translation-de 1503768/1.514 kB 99%] [6 Translation-de 4353/1.514 kB 0%]FATAL -> Failed to fork. |
| 14:06 | <retrospectacus> | your host is restricting this somehow |
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| 14:06 | <srtu> | everything broke the .de stuff |
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| 14:07 | <retrospectacus> | I use openvz and there is /proc/user_beancounters which will tell you if you are hitting limits set by the host on # of TCP connections, processes, memory pages, etc |
| 14:07 | <retrospectacus> | but don't know about v-server |
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| 14:17 | <srtu> | k maybe the images are broken, new install = same thing |
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| 14:17 | <srtu> | i wrote a mail to the hoster, guess after fresh install everything has to run smoothly |
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| 14:28 | <Nik05> | hey guys |
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| 14:29 | <dmitry_> | hmmm |
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| 14:29 | <Dmitry> | much better 8) |
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| 14:32 | <diraol> | Hi friends, i'm facing a problem on a debian server i manage, but i don't know exactly what's going on... |
| 14:33 | <diraol> | My sever is sending lot's off messages to the log, around 30Gb / 5-10min ...... |
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| 14:34 | <coudy> | hi, is there a switch how to tell apt-get or aptitude to download multiple package simultaneously ? |
| 14:35 | <retrospectacus> | coudy: no. It does that automatically |
| 14:35 | <diraol> | the error on the log is here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/566608/ |
| 14:35 | <coudy> | retrospectacus, ok, thx |
| 14:36 | <diraol> | it's something with PCIE Bus, but i don't know what to do, i have no idea why i'm getting this error... |
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| 14:38 | <retrospectacus> | diraol: did you try re-seating your hardware? |
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| 14:39 | <retrospectacus> | or try removing things and see if the error goes away |
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| 14:42 | <diraol> | retrospectacus: re-seating? sorry, i'm not an natural english speaker, and a little bit newbie. |
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| 14:43 | <retrospectacus> | I mean shut down, open the computer and pull out each card, inspect for damage maybe, and put it back in |
| 14:43 | <meglaw> | LOL |
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| 14:44 | <retrospectacus> | and maybe leave it out, boot and see if the error stops, then there may be damage on that piece |
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| 14:45 | <diraol> | so it would be a hardware fisical problem? (the server is on a collocation hosting, i'll just access it on monday) |
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| 14:45 | <retrospectacus> | yes it looks like it to me |
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| 14:48 | <diraol> | there is anything i can do using "ssh" to try to discover where the error is? |
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| 14:51 | <retrospectacus> | not much |
| 14:51 | <retrospectacus> | ,pciid 111d:806a |
| 14:51 | <judd> | [111d:806a] is 'PES24T3G2 PCI Express Gen2 Switch' from 'Integrated Device Technology, Inc.' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=111d:806a |
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| 15:14 | <think> | I have no sound! lsmod shows the modules running, and I have mainboard built in sound card, but when I run lspci or lshw I dont see any sound card listed |
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| 15:25 | <gerby> | buona serata |
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| 15:26 | <gerby> | cerco dvd |
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| 15:27 | <jordan> | recently in testing and unstable, I can only click on the last opened window with the mouse. Can someone please help me debug so i can file a bug report? |
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| 15:31 | <Dmitry> | =) |
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| 15:34 | <Guest6496> | ciao |
| 15:34 | <Guest6496> | !lista |
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| 15:41 | <Lu40667> | Hi |
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| 15:46 | <kiro> | есть русскоязычные? |
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| 15:51 | <moujik> | Hi! I installed Debian squeeze xfce to multi-boot with mandriva 10.2. I chose to use Mandriva's swap space for debian as well. Now when I try to boot into mandriva, there's an error. kernel panic.. |
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| 15:55 | <moujik> | VLF error? ELF 32 error. btw Mandriva shows as "Linux" on debian grub menu |
| 15:55 | <kiro> | test settings chat |
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| 15:59 | <moujik> | is this the right channel to ask for help with multi-booting debian? |
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| 16:00 | <retrospectacus> | moujik: if you're sharing swap you won't be able to hibernate. That's probably what happened |
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| 16:06 | <GalegO> | Hi guys Good Afternoon :) |
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| 16:06 | <moujik> | I didn't hibernate. I just want a "last visit" to mandriva to get my things as I was going to switch to Mageia anyway, but I trusted debian not to lock the door. Do you think it can be fixed without mandriva's live cd? |
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| 16:06 | <GalegO> | can anyone help me to make my Logitech G930 work in Debian Squeeze? |
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| 16:07 | <retrospectacus> | moujik: could have rearranged your partition numbers then, you can get in my editing the boot lines in grub |
| 16:07 | <GalegO> | it's a wireless headfone... Debian regonize in the sound panel, but still mute |
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| 16:09 | <retrospectacus> | s/my/by/ |
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| 16:11 | <moujik> | $ df gives me "tmpfs 1025528 0 1025528 0% /lib/init/rw" udev 1020688 260 1020428 1% /dev" tmpfs 1025528 0 1025528 0% /dev/shm", apart from root and home what are they? |
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| 16:12 | <valdyn> | moujik: they are populated when you boot up and stored on ram |
| 16:18 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: where do I do that and how do I know which numbers? thank you! |
| 16:18 | <retrospectacus> | at the grub prompt and by guessing :P |
| 16:19 | <retrospectacus> | well fdisk -l would give you some numbers to try |
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| 16:26 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: 8,9 are debian; 6 is swap; 1 is unknown; 2 is wista; 3 is extended; 5,7 are linux. there's no 4; judging by the size 5,7 are mandriva, 5 being root. the option for linux(mandriva) in grub is 5. |
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| 16:28 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: as long as I don't touch debian numbers and swap, there's no risk of messing up debian, right? |
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| 16:29 | <retrospectacus> | sounds fine |
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| 16:30 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: fine to try or as it is? |
| 16:30 | <retrospectacus> | the partition numbers sound fine. |
| 16:30 | <retrospectacus> | what are you trying? |
| 16:31 | <moujik> | 5 |
| 16:31 | <moujik> | when I get the error |
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| 16:32 | <moujik> | by 5 I mean sda5 |
| 16:34 | <moujik> | thank you! I'll try again and provide more info in a minute.. |
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| 16:36 | <coudy> | hi, I can't build darktable 1.0 on debian testing with 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot', here is output http://paste.jabbim.cz/5618 |
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| 16:40 | <orion> | Hello people, i want to mount devices on fixed folders, but i want, that 'mount' differentiate by ports. For example i have three usb ports, i want all mounted drives on the first port to be in /media/usb1 |
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| 16:43 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: Hi again! VFS: cannot open root device "UUID...." |
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| 16:44 | <moujik> | Kernel Panic, not syncing, unable to mount root |
| 16:44 | <moujik> | swapper Not tainted |
| 16:46 | <retrospectacus> | uuid eh |
| 16:46 | <moujik> | then is just stops, no input possible and you have to press 1/0 to restart |
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| 16:47 | <moujik> | do either debian or mandriva not use UUID+ |
| 16:47 | <moujik> | ? |
| 16:47 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: I think udev configuration might be the only shot at that |
| 16:47 | <retrospectacus> | don't know anything about Mandriva but debian can use either |
| 16:49 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: Okay, thank you. |
| 16:50 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: actually, as this is not device-specific, I think you have another option |
| 16:51 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: look into mounting via UUID also |
| 16:51 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: But with UUID moutn means the mounted devices, right? |
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| 16:52 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: ? You can mount via UUID and still specify where the mount point should be |
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| 16:52 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: UUID is the ID of e.g. the usb-stick, not the usb-port |
| 16:52 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: if you want to mount something based on the specific device used, then you probably need to look into udev details |
| 16:53 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: yes, that's right |
| 16:53 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: Okay, let's have a look |
| 16:53 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: or more specifically the filesystem on the usb stick |
| 16:55 | <retrospectacus> | pretty sure there's no way to do what he wants |
| 16:56 | <orion> | retrospectacus: You're sure? |
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| 16:56 | <ChrisKnadle> | not sure, but there might be. Mounting via udev /dev/disk/by-id/ ? |
| 16:57 | <retrospectacus> | not totally |
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| 16:57 | <retrospectacus> | but if you plug in some random usb drive it's gonna be (e.g.) sdb regardless of which physical port you stick it in |
| 16:57 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: I can open files on mandriva partitions through notepad and authentication, but I cannot open menu.lst there |
| 16:57 | <retrospectacus> | in my experience |
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| 16:58 | <orion> | retrospectacus: Okay, yeah, i think i let it be, first usb-device /media/usb1, second /media/usb2 etc. |
| 16:59 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: where would I see UUID? |
| 16:59 | <retrospectacus> | moujik: blkid |
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| 17:00 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: where is blkid? |
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| 17:01 | <retrospectacus> | /sbin/blkid |
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| 17:02 | <ChrisKnadle> | Just to make sure we're clear: /media/usb1 is a mount location (directory) not a device to mount |
| 17:03 | <retrospectacus> | your DE should do all that for you anyways |
| 17:03 | <ChrisKnadle> | device to mount (like /dev/sdb) isn't reliable unless udev has some way of recognizing the particular device and knowing where to have that device show up |
| 17:03 | <ChrisKnadle> | many do, yes. |
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| 17:03 | <orion> | Yeah |
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| 17:04 | <ChrisKnadle> | so for instance in udev rules I think you could have a particular usb stick show up as /dev/usb-1 or some such |
| 17:04 | <orion> | Interesting |
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| 17:05 | <ChrisKnadle> | but where you're interested in mounting by device *port*, that's where I was thinking about /dev/disk/by-id/ or /dev/disk/by-path/ |
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| 17:05 | <ChrisKnadle> | these are udev related also, but point to device ports |
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| 17:06 | <ChrisKnadle> | I've occasionally used them to mount devices -- it does work. |
| 17:07 | <retrospectacus> | the by-path might work for orion actually |
| 17:07 | <retrospectacus> | with some trial and error |
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| 17:08 | <orion> | Cool think, lets see |
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| 17:12 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: Okay, it looks like, there are port-ids, any idea how to say that to fstab? |
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| 17:12 | <coudy> | hi, I can't build darktable 1.0 on debian testing with 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot', I'm using uupdate to newer version, from 0.9.3 to 1.0.0, I'm able to build 0.9.3 from souce, but not 1.0.0, here is output http://paste.jabbim.cz/5618, any help ? |
| 17:12 | <ChrisKnadle> | yes. You use them like you normally would AFAIK |
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| 17:13 | <retrospectacus> | like /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000:00:0b.1-usb-0:9:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 /media/usb1 ... |
| 17:13 | <ChrisKnadle> | i.e. specify disk device to mount via /dev/disk/by-id (or by-path)/<device> <mount point> etc |
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| 17:14 | <ChrisKnadle> | udev should start before /etc/fstab is used, which is why that should work |
| 17:14 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: thunar gives them UUIDesque names. If I just could mount mandriva/home and copy what I need. Does it matter that mandriva is on ext4 and debian ext3? |
| 17:14 | <retrospectacus> | nope. That'll work fine |
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| 17:15 | <orion> | Interesting |
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| 17:15 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: it looks like the build can't find something related to gconf |
| 17:15 | <orion> | Thank you |
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| 17:17 | <coudy> | ChrisKnadle, any help ? |
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| 17:17 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/etc/gconf/schemas': No such file or directory |
| 17:17 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: it looks like something is missing |
| 17:17 | <moujik> | ok, thank you! if I install another distro over mandriva using the same swap, will it mess up debian install? |
| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | only for hibernation |
| 17:18 | <coudy> | ChrisKnadle, I see that message, but I don't know what is missing, 0.9.3 is builded fine |
| 17:20 | <moujik> | retrospectacus: I won't be able to hibernate at all in either? |
| 17:20 | <coudy> | ChrisKnadle, apt-get build-dep darktable |
| 17:20 | <coudy> | Reading package lists... Done |
| 17:20 | <coudy> | Building dependency tree |
| 17:20 | <coudy> | Reading state information... Done |
| 17:20 | <coudy> | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded. |
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| 17:21 | <coudy> | ChrisKnadle, build-dep http://paste.jabbim.cz/5619 |
| 17:22 | <moujik> | Do you think 3,5 Gb is too much for a swap partition for debian squeeze xfce? |
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| 17:22 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: there's obviously a difference between the versions, and the new version FTBFS |
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| 17:23 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: since the built-dep looks fine, then this looks like it's a FTBS bug |
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| 17:25 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: where are you getting darktable 1.0 from? |
| 17:25 | <coudy> | ChrisKnadle, what is ftbs ? |
| 17:25 | <coudy> | ChrisKnadle, from sourceforge |
| 17:25 | <ChrisKnadle> | Fails To Build from Source |
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| 17:26 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: ah. so you're changing out the source code, but Debian build-dep doesn't know about the changes. |
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| 17:27 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: best I can suggest from here is to do a diff on the source code from 0.9.3 and 1.0.0 and see what changed. |
| 17:27 | <melmothX> | moujik: i belive you'll be fine with 1Gb |
| 17:27 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: that might tell you what dependencies you're missing that build-dep can't help you with. |
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| 17:30 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: another thing to realize when it comes to Debian packaging is that the debian maintainer may have moved files around from the original source to meet the FHS |
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| 17:30 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: FHS = Filesystem Hirearchy Standards |
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| 17:30 | <ChrisKnadle> | coudy: so you may need to make similar changes to the 'upstream' source from Sourceforge to get it to build |
| 17:31 | <moujik> | Can I reduce the swap partition size, although it's used by two distros, or during the install of another distro over mandriva, without messing up debian install? |
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| 17:31 | <ChrisKnadle> | moujik: as long as you don't alter other partitions, I think the answer is yes |
| 17:32 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: Mounting by ports can not work because in the by-path-name there is the id from the usb-device |
| 17:32 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: see if the usb device shows up in /dev/disk/by-id/ -- that's what I've used before, for disks though |
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| 17:34 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: when I insert a USB stick I see the device show up in /dev/disk/by-id/ so I think there's at least a chance that can work |
| 17:34 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: also device-specific |
| 17:34 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: but it's no port-specific or can i use wildcards in fstab? |
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| 17:35 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: not that I know of, no. |
| 17:35 | <ChrisKnadle> | yes, /dev/disk/by-id/ looks device specific. |
| 17:36 | <ChrisKnadle> | however /dev/disk/by-path/ looks port specific -- trying that |
| 17:36 | <moujik> | ok, thank you! Another short question: is it normal for Iceweasel to be at 1Gb VM-size and 250Mb RSS? Is Iceweasel not supposed to be less hungrier than firefox? |
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| 17:37 | <orion> | moujik: I think browser take what they get, the more memory you have the more they take |
| 17:37 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: when I insert a usb stick, this is what I see in /dev/disk/by-path/ : |
| 17:37 | <juhaj> | Can someone help me with notification-daemon/notify-osd: they seem to ignore the notification timeout I set. |
| 17:37 | <ChrisKnadle> | pci-0000:00:1a.7-usb-0:3:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 |
| 17:37 | <orion> | i think 0:3:1.0 is the usb id |
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| 17:38 | <juhaj> | That is, notify-send --expire-time=100 and notify-send --expire-time=1000000 both stay on the screen for the exact same time |
| 17:38 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: hmm. well I have another way of checking... I can get another usb stick |
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| 17:38 | <arand> | moujik: I though there was no difference firefox/iceweasel other than superficial? |
| 17:38 | <moujik> | would you say Iceweasel is the most effective browser for debian xfce, or would you recommend any other? |
| 17:39 | <arand> | Depends completely on your preferences. |
| 17:39 | <moujik> | arand: I thought Iceweasel was optimized for debian, so better |
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| 17:39 | <orion> | arand: superficial? You see freedom superficial :D? |
| 17:39 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: 2nd USB stick came up as: pci-0000:00:1a.7-usb-0:3:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 |
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| 17:40 | <arand> | orion: Hmm, yeah maybe it's the wrong word :D |
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| 17:40 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: That sounds good, |
| 17:40 | <orion> | arand: :D |
| 17:40 | <scientes> | how do i get agressive read-ahead in my music applications |
| 17:40 | <scientes> | to minimize hard drive spin-up |
| 17:40 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: yeah I think you have a fair shot at getting this to work. ;-) |
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| 17:41 | <ChrisKnadle> | moujik: mainly Iceweasel is renamed Firefox due to trademark action by Mozilla. |
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| 17:44 | <moujik> | ChrisKnadle: I see, so it's not like Swiftfox, which I failed to install.. |
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| 17:45 | <ChrisKnadle> | moujik: No. It's Firefox with free artwork and a small set of required patches to get it working under Debian, and possibly security fixes, but it's as "unmolested" as possible. |
| 17:46 | <ChrisKnadle> | moujik: at least AFAIK. You can always use 'apt-get source iceweasel' to see exactly what the debian diff contains. ;-) |
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| 17:48 | <moujik> | ChrisKnadle: I read somewhere that it's better to use 'aptitude' than 'apt-get', what's the difference? |
| 17:49 | <ChrisKnadle> | moujik: several differences. |
| 17:49 | <ChrisKnadle> | but the big one I notice most is how dependencies are marked as "automatically" installed when using aptitude |
| 17:49 | <ChrisKnadle> | which isn't the case when using apt-get |
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| 17:50 | <ChrisKnadle> | where this comes into play is when you have "orphans" -- libraries or other packages left behind when you remove the package that required them |
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| 17:50 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: So that you don't need a apt-get autoremove? |
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| 17:50 | <ChrisKnadle> | when using aptitude, these dependencies were marked as "automatically installed", so they'll be set to be removed when you remove the package that needed them |
| 17:51 | <ChrisKnadle> | I guess. I havne't tested the behavior of apt-get autoremove |
| 17:52 | <ChrisKnadle> | normally I run deborphan and remove the orphans via 'dpkg -P $(deborphan) |
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| 17:54 | <ChrisKnadle> | I also like the log that aptitude makes |
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| 17:54 | <orion> | And the minesweeper game |
| 17:55 | <ChrisKnadle> | and I also like that aptitude has a text menu, and some of the other features like 'aptitude purge ?config-files' to get rid of configuration files left behind from removed packages |
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| 17:55 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: there's a minesweeper game? in aptitude? |
| 17:55 | <ChrisKnadle> | LOL. didn't know about minesweeper |
| 17:55 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: You see? |
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| 17:56 | <moujik> | What happens if you 'aptitude install' a pkg, then another, and the second uses the same lib as first, then you 'autoremove' first. Will it remove that lib or know that another pkg uses it? |
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| 17:58 | <ChrisKnadle> | moujik: it will know that the other package uses it. Orphans are only orphans when they're unused. |
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| 17:58 | <orion> | moujik: I think that won't work, if you remove the first, the seconds get's remove, if you don't decline |
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| 17:59 | <orion> | moujik: And you cannot autoremove a package directly afaik, only if you have some rests |
| 18:00 | <moujik> | sorry, I meant remove first, then autoremove the rest.. |
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| 18:01 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: I see references to minesweeper in aptitude, but I can't find how to actually get to it |
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| 18:01 | <moujik> | thank you everybody! It's easier to learn through a dialogue. |
| 18:01 | <ChrisKnadle> | yeah, I wish I had done this earlier. :-P |
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| 18:06 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: You see a character in bold print? |
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| 18:09 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: ? no |
| 18:09 | <joseluis> | hola |
| 18:09 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: oh... haha... it's in the menu I never use. :-P |
| 18:09 | <joseluis> | necesito abrir las bandas de un moden usb alguien sabe como puedo hacerlo |
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| 18:10 | <joseluis> | algun paso |
| 18:10 | <orion> | :) |
| 18:11 | <orion> | joseluis: Please En |
| 18:11 | <orion> | joseluis: please english ;> |
| 18:11 | <joseluis> | ok |
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| 18:12 | <adel> | translate: He needs to open the bands for a usb modem |
| 18:13 | <joseluis> | i need to unlock a zte usb moden does anyone know anything about that? |
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| 18:14 | <ChrisKnadle> | orion: haha... aptitude minesweeper is a little weird. :-P |
| 18:14 | <vinay427> | needa fix grub2 first tho |
| 18:14 | <joseluis> | is it possible to do that in linux? |
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| 18:24 | <orion> | joseluis: Hmm dont know |
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| 18:25 | <joseluis> | ok |
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| 18:40 | <orion> | ChrisKnadle: Yeah, really nerdy minesweeper |
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| 18:56 | <scientes> | why are computers all about mindshare |
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| 19:11 | <eightyeight> | scientes: what? |
| 19:11 | <scientes> | like attention to various APIs |
| 19:12 | <scientes> | there are like a gazillion differn't ways to do everything |
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| 19:13 | <retrospectacus> | because they're general-purpose machines :) |
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| 21:04 | <scientes> | how do i only pack needed modules into my initramfs? |
| 21:04 | <scientes> | (for my hardware) |
| 21:04 | <scientes> | i remember it in the installer |
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| 21:35 | <simonlnu> | scientes: add them to the modules file in /etc/initramfs-tools/ |
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| 22:08 | <thinkerbell> | is hyperthreading cpu have two cores, cause when I run lshw, it show two logical cpu's |
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| 22:45 | <rsampaio> | hi there, does anyone confirm that wheezy debian-installer netboot image changed back from kernel 3.2 to kernel 2.6.32 ? |
| 22:56 | <sney> | #debian-boot handles the installer but that sounds like you downloaded squeeze by accident |
| 23:00 | <rsampaio> | well got from here checking sid http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/linux |
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| 23:01 | <rsampaio> | and now I found that http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/linux is a 3.2 image in fact |
| 23:01 | <rsampaio> | thanks sney |
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