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---Logopened Tue Apr 03 00:00:32 2012
---Daychanged Tue Apr 03 2012
00:00<tosted>retrospectacus, ii firmware-atheros 0.28+squeeze1 Binary firmware for Atheros wireless cards
00:00<tosted>that were installed already
00:01<tosted>may i install from bpo?
00:01<retrospectacus>hm well dmesg says ath9k_htc: Firmware - htc_9271.fw not found, and that file's in that package
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00:01<tosted>so... ill reinstall
00:02<retrospectacus>no, you'll upgrade that package
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00:02<tosted>http://paste.debian.net/161839/
00:02<tosted>again...same fail.
00:03<retrospectacus>you installed firmware-atheros 0.35~bpo60+1 from squeeze-backports/non-free ?
00:04<tosted>retrospectacus, no...
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00:04<tosted>http://paste.debian.net/161841/
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00:05<retrospectacus>fix that
00:05<tosted>enabling bpo again?
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00:05<retrospectacus>yes, if you disabled it... you'll need non-free this time
00:05<tosted>non-free is not set at bpo line!
00:05<tosted>ok
00:06<tosted>updating
00:07<tosted>sudo apt-get -t squeeze-backports install firmware-atheros ?
00:07<tosted>done!
00:08<tosted>uhuhuhohohoh
00:08<tosted>man
00:08<tosted>you so brave...
00:08<tosted>now i can see all wireless hot spot!
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00:08<tosted>!beer retrospectacus
00:08*dpkg deftly decants a fine Piraat for retrospectacus
00:08<tosted>!sexylady retrospectacus
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00:09<tosted>hey dpkg, you re so stupid! pick a lady to retrospectacus !!! >P
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00:10<tosted>retrospectacus, look it now! http://paste.debian.net/161842/
00:10<tosted>all recognized!
00:11<retrospectacus>huzzah
00:11<orzo>I want to know all the available packages that depend on a certain package. Can apt tell me?
00:11<tosted>whats the trick?
00:13<retrospectacus>orzo: apt-get rdepends foo
00:13<retrospectacus>orzo: apt-cache rdepends foo
00:14<tosted>why the old package could not recognize AR9271?
00:14<retrospectacus>tosted: it didn't have htc_9271.fw
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00:15<tosted>but pack description was included AR9271
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00:16<tosted>let me know were can i find all packs information
00:16<retrospectacus>tosted: apt-cache show firmware-atheros
00:17<sney_>packages.debian.org for everything
00:17<retrospectacus>you will see *two* descriptions, one for squeeze, one for backports version... you needed the "version 1.3" apparently
00:18<tosted>yeah...i can see that. but why the old one, did not work?
00:19<tosted>what the difference between ar and htc?
00:19<retrospectacus>tosted: because it didn't have htc_9271.fw
00:20<retrospectacus>orzo: you may also like "aptitude why foo" if you're wondering why you have some package installed
00:20<orzo>thanks
00:24<tosted>on http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/firmware-atheros i could see the difference...
00:24<tosted>and others fail on boot?
00:25<tosted>[drm] MTRR allocation failed. Graphics performance may suffer.
00:26<tosted>may, not, it are suffering!!!
00:28<tosted>http://paste.debian.net/161843/ for dmesg | grep drm
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00:48<tosted>!MTRR
00:48<dpkg>Memory Type Range Register (MTRR) is a feature on modern x86 processors that can give a 2.5x performance boost when using PCI/AGP graphics cards. MTRR's are supported by Intel PPro or higher, Cyrix 6x86L and AMD K6-2 (step>=8). See also <inconsistent mtrr>. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/x86/mtrr.txt
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01:00<prem>hi.,is there a way to redirect my network connections through "http://127.0.0.1:8080" always .,even though i specify as "No proxy" in my proxy settings
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01:01<prem>hi.,is there a way to redirect my network connections through "http://127.0.0.1:8080" always .,even though i specify as "No proxy" in my proxy settings
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01:04<jm_>prem: look at transparent proxy setup
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01:12<prem>jm_, am using privoxy for proxy settings.
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01:12<prem>jm_, as far as i read transparent proxy is possible only with squid
01:12<prem>is it possible to do with privoxy too?
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01:21<jm_>prem: for limited use cases yes, it's in privoxy faq - otherwise you can have two tier setup: squid -> privoxy (this is what I use but not in a transparent proxy setup)
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01:40<scientes>prem, yeah squid is the way to go
01:40<scientes>but to be honest, i recommend adblockplus, its just alot easier
01:41<scientes>not only does it blocks more, but i would be biased to say it breaks less
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01:50<rain>hello
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02:11<Guest522>ok
02:13<Guest522>#debian
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02:15<Guest522>how are you
02:16<prem>scientes, adblockplus is only for the specific browser.,say i download some other browser and just runs it?
02:16<prem>in that case i cant look for again new extensiosn and configuring it
02:16<prem>thats y looking for some generic solution scientes jm_
02:17<jm_>yeah that's why I use privoxy - same setup on multiple hosts (and browsers if need be)
02:17<Guest522>yes
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02:32<_ramo>hi
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02:33<_ramo>i'm using debian squeeze for a server. on this server i'm running an apache2 webserver. i've also installed graylog and uptime to monitor the server. this morning between 4:30 and 5:50 graylog show me, that the computer was at 75% of work, but i don't know why. uptime shows me, that the server was not reachable for 3 minutes. i can connect via ssh to the server, but the webserver is not available
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02:50<jm_>try to connect to it locally, verify if it's running etc.
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03:09<asfethan>greetings
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03:10<nykac>greetings
03:10<arinov_>hi
03:11<arinov_>i need psql server 8.1 and i saw in aptitude only 8.4
03:11<arinov_>how to install 8.1 in 6.0.4?
03:12<weasel>you don't.
03:13<asfethan>arinov_: you can compile it by yourself, but why to do that?
03:13<arinov_>asfethan: its for open-project server daemon
03:13<weasel>if it does not work with the current postgresql, then it should be fixed.
03:13<nykac>why not 8.4?
03:13<weasel>it should not, and probably does not, need the ancient 8.1
03:14<asfethan>arinov_: I think it will be compatible
03:14<arinov_>i try to install it by theur instructions where they wrote "not 8.4"
03:14<weasel>that's because they wrote it years ago
03:14<weasel>presumably
03:14<nykac>what about 9
03:14<nykac>*9.1
03:14<arinov_>9 is not stable yet... i think
03:14<weasel>(do you really want to install old, unmaintained stuff?)
03:14<weasel>arinov_: it is.
03:15<weasel>9.1 is even out there
03:15<weasel>(it's not in debian stable tho)
03:15<asfethan>then look for alternative sw
03:15<arinov_>and it is in stable debian repository?
03:15<weasel>(but 9.1 is in backports)
03:15<arinov_>backports?
03:15<arinov_>i am new in debian world
03:15<arinov_>okay, i will try with 8.4
03:16<arinov_>if not - 9.1 from backport
03:16<nykac>arinov_: backports is a repo where new features and bugfixes are ported to an older version
03:16<arinov_>it not again - compilation
03:16<nykac>of debian
03:19<arinov_>is (older == stable)?
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03:19<arinov_>what is current version?
03:21<nykac>squeeze
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03:41<arinov_>can i use i386 in amd64 debian?
03:41<arinov_>i386 daemon
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03:44<nykac>probably
03:44<zhangxiao>hehe
03:44<nykac>what are you trying to run?
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03:45<asfethan>arinov_: you must have install some 32b libraries and dependencies, then yes
03:46<asfethan>s/must have/have to/
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03:48<nykac>g'nite
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03:49<arinov_>asfethan: where can i read about 32 bit deps installation?
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03:50<asfethan>arinov_: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534
03:50<arinov_>thanks
03:50<asfethan>np
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03:50<scientes>prem, yes privoxy is more flexible, but adblockplus removed elements from the actual page, and reduces overhead and ram more than privoxy can
03:51<scientes>but yeah privoxxy isn't bad
03:51<scientes>privvoxy has the capability of covering more than one hosts for example
03:51<scientes>and it can also do stuff that adblockplus can't
03:51<scientes>like you could normalize all google searches, to remove tracking parameters, and normalize user agents, and cache the results
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03:52<scientes>and you could also preempt the google redirect, and send the same 302 google would send, while avoiding the round trip to google's tracking servers
03:53<scientes>you could also implament cookie blocking for specific urls, so block a providers cookies but still work with their log-in services
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03:53*scientes has been waiting for someone to implament a proper google sandbox/normalizer
03:53<scientes>cause they do alot to push in the other direction...like resetting http cookies from flash cookies
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04:22<vida>Will the OFTC IRC network controlled by the gov, as the Freenode will be.
04:22<vida>?
04:22<vida>See http://freenode.net/privacy_change.html
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04:31<vida>Oops, April 1 :)
04:31<vida>Oops, April 1 :)
04:31<vida> http://freenode.net/privacy_change.html
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04:41<ayaka>if i can login a pc by ssh, but is there any except sftp can upload or dowbload data
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04:54<pgimeno>I have mysql-server-5.0 installed and want to update to mysql-server-5.1; how do I learn what steps should I take to make the update? or should I just install the package and it will take care of the update?
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04:59<arinov_>how to install package i download
04:59<arinov_>?
04:59<arinov_>i have a deb file here
04:59<musca>pgimeno: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/upgrading-from-previous-series.html
05:00<pgimeno>arinov_: dpkg -i filename.deb (as root)
05:00<pgimeno>musca: thank you
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05:01<musca>arinov_: you can seriously hurt your system with a bad package
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05:01<ivanov4>yop :)
05:01<arinov_>thanks pgimeno
05:01<pgimeno>I was pondering on downloading the package and extracting the README.Debian from it; certainly 5.0 has some notes on upgrading *to* 5.0
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05:19<arinov_>is there any instructions how to made multilib with debian?
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05:27<musca>!multiarch
05:27<dpkg>Debian is working towards the ability to install packages from one architecture on a machine that is running a different architecture. This makes i386/amd64 issues simpler (no more ia32-libs!), helps tag firmware blobs with the correct arch and allows easier cross-compiling and bootstrapping. Multiarch support is a release goal for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
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05:33<arinov_>[03/Apr/2012:15:33:12][9235.4148713152][-main-] Fatal: nsmain: chdir(/usr/local/aolserver) failed: No such file or directory
05:33<arinov_>i have aolserver from repository and it is in /usr/share
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05:34<arinov_>but project-open i installed here wants /usr/local/aolserver
05:34<arinov_>is it normal state with linux software installation?
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05:36<arinov_>not important, i change configuration
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06:01<nodiscc>g'day all, i'm looking for a way to run compiz on an ATI card *without* installing proprietary drivers. possible?
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06:10<musca>!tell nodiscc about radeon
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06:10<talis>hello everbody.
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06:14<nodiscc>musca: thx, so installing libgl1-mesa-dri should solve this?
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06:15<musca>nodiscc: you will need some firmware for that
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06:15<musca>!radeon firmware
06:15<dpkg>Binary-only firmware was removed from the radeon <DRM> driver at linux-2.6 2.6.29-1 (Debian bug #494009), now packaged separately in firmware-linux-nonfree. Without this package installed, poor 2D/3D performance in the <radeon> and <radeonhd> xorg drivers is commonly experienced. To acquire, ask me about <non-free sources>. This is not required for use of the <fglrx> driver.
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06:25<AgentC>hi. see topic, does that mean that lenny netinstall does not work anymore ?
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06:27<daemonkeeper>It means you should not use Lenny at all.
06:28<AgentC>ok
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06:29<AgentC>i just asked cause my vps systems using still lenny
06:29<daemonkeeper>You should upgrade to Squeeze.
06:29<AgentC>out of the reason, that other kernels are not possible at moment
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06:29<AgentC>depends on the host-sys
06:30<daemonkeeper>A sane host system lets you pick your own kernel.
06:31<AgentC>maybe, the host-operator announced an upgrade some days before, can be that somethin change in future
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06:31<musca>!tell AgentC about lenny sources.list
06:32<AgentC>musca: thanx
06:33<musca>i also think you should upgrade to squeeze in near future
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06:34<anubis>Hi, i am looking for a drawing program. I need to draw many boxes, which are divided into n*m even subboxes. LibreOffice's Draw seems too complicated for this task. what i could do is use excel an fill the squares. But is there a better alternative?
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06:35<AgentC>openoffice
06:35<AgentC>?
06:35<AgentC>gimp ?
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06:37<nodiscc>scribus?
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06:39<seregil>Hi Guys, I'm running Debian Testing with KDE 4.7.4, all updates applied. My issue is with the volume not being managed correctly. When you start playpack under certain conditions the volume jumps up to 100% for the master.
06:39<seregil> I have read FAQ and used as much of my knowhow as possible, but still no go
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06:40<seregil>Any ideas?
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06:42<musca>seregil: see topic --> testing questions go to #debian-next
06:42<seregil>thanks, I will head over there
06:42<gnugr>seregil: please ask at #debian-kde
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08:07<EmleyMoor>Is there a tool in Debian that will get all the DNS data for my domain?
08:08<weasel>who runs the nameserver?
08:08<petemc>host -l domain , if its allowed
08:08<EmleyMoor>C&W/Demon
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08:08<weasel>dig is the usual tool. but if you aren't allowed to afxr then that won't help much
08:08<weasel>axfr.
08:09<EmleyMoor>weasel: If I am allowed to, what do I do exactly?
08:09<weasel>https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=zone+transfer+dig
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08:20<EmleyMoor>Fortunately I know most of it - just retrieved the bits I'd forgotten
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09:05<ayaka|>if i want to boot into specific entry once time, but after boot to into it i can chanage grub.cfg, how to do it
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09:18<nick_>UBUNTU SUCKKKKKSSSSS
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09:22<ayaka|>ok another question, if i can't us essh-copy-id, can i copy my pub key, and echo to the remote(login) ~/.ssh/known_hosts, does it is same?
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09:24<tosted>nothing better than A fresh install. :P
09:25<tosted>all running perfectly at corei3,
09:25<babilen>ayaka|: Yes, you only need to append your public key to the end of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys - I am not sure why you wouldn't be able to use ssh-copy-id though.
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09:25<gnugr>tosted:i hope you add the right lines this time in sources.list
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09:35<rufian>how can I get v-sync on the ATI free driver?
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09:38<Guest566>What does this mean http://paste.debian.net/161889/
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09:39<babilen>Guest566: It means that somebody (presumably you) issued the "alsa force-reload" command. This resulted in the reload of a number of modules.
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09:40<tosted>gnugr, yeah man!!! you were so inpatient yesterday....Crashfire helped me, and all ran well! Thanks for while.
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09:42<Guest566>babilen, is there a command to help me figure why my sound died
09:42<gnugr>tosted:well, you are right but you never mentioned what mess you had in /etc/apt/sources.list
09:43<gnugr>rufian: i think you need "gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" to solve your prob
09:46<tosted>man, but neither do i knew what i mess...I just added things without knowing at least what was
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09:46<tosted>:P
09:46<gnugr>ok so please accept my apologize
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09:48<tosted>!apologize gnugr
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09:50<tosted>gnugr, no problem, man...no need to apologize...sorry my broken english if necessary!
09:51<tosted>gnugr, no problem, man...no need to apologize...sorry my broken english if appropriate! *
09:51<lysdexia>Question about how dbus works: I have a usb 3g modem. Dbus finds the modem fine. After login I am able to reliably use a wvdial script to connect to the network. Everything works great. However, when I attempt to 1). run the wvdial script from init.d, 2). run the wvdial script from rc.local 3). run the wvdial script from /etc/network/interfaces ... I get "-->No Carrier! Trying again" in a loop.
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09:53<lysdexia>I suspect that I'm not providing some profile information when I call the script, which is confusing either wvdial or dbus. I know it's confusing me. :-)
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09:53<lysdexia>Oh, I also attempted to start the wvdial script from cron using an "@boot".
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09:55<tosted>a new issue. issue.I have problems using the sound via hdmi, output to speaker connector are ok.
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09:56<tosted>!hdmi
09:57<dpkg>HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) is a compact audio/video interface for transmitting uncompressed digital data.
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09:59<tosted>what libraries necessary to play audio through HDMI
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09:59<ayaka|>babilenthank you
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09:59<ayaka|>babilen thank you
09:59<petemc>tosted: does aplay -l list the hdmi device?
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09:59<ayaka>if i want to boot into specific entry once time, but after boot to into it i can chanage grub.cfg, how to do it
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10:02<tosted>http://paste.debian.net/161894/ aplay -l
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10:03<sidney_>would it be a good idea to uninstall everything alsa and reinstall to get the sound working
10:03<tosted>petemc, yes, but all under same device, HDA intel
10:03<tosted>sidney_, are you sure?
10:04<sidney_>only that my sound died
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10:05<gnugr>lysdexia:try once "dpkg-reconfigure wvidial"
10:06<tosted>sidney_, i cant remove all alsa packs without broken some depencies, gnome is one!
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10:07<sidney_>tosted sorry that was a question about fixing my sound problems\
10:08<tosted>sidney_, ...
10:09<tosted>sidney_, ok
10:09<lysdexia>gnugr: what will that do?
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10:09<tosted>petemc, and is all alright?
10:09<gnugr>to reconfigure
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10:10<petemc>tosted: its a good start
10:10<lysdexia>I mean, specifically what is it trying to fix? It functions properly when started by a user.
10:10<gnugr>lysdexia: also try to figure it out there: http://wiki.debian.org/Wvdial i hope it helps
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10:10<lysdexia>Gnugr: thanks.
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10:24<tosted>petemc, still no working, how can i get hdmi audio work well?
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10:26<tosted>wt libreries install?
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10:30<tosted>http://paste.debian.net/161898/
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10:33<ceipha>Hey! I deleted Music directory from my home folder and then created it again. I see that the custom icon has disappeared and the folder now looks like a generic folder. How to restore the icon?
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10:44<lwbnet>what is the dektop enviroment with all the visual effects called
10:44<lwbnet>i cant remember
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10:47<daemonkeeper>Every major desktop does these days. Your probably mean Compiz.
10:48<lwbnet>ah that's the one. thanks!
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10:52<chealer>lwbnet: Compiz is not a desktop environment
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10:54<lwbnet>chealer: is it not?
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10:55<tosted>i cant access pavucontrol either user, or root!
10:55<chealer>lwbnet: no, it's just a window manager.
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10:56<ayaka>yep, compiz is an windows manage, gonme is desktop evn
10:56<gnugr>tosted: did you add mutlimedia keyring and mutlimedia repo in sources.list?
10:57<daemonkeeper>lwbnet: No. It's a window manager.
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10:58<tosted>ok...
10:58<tosted>hdmi working..
10:58<tosted>i ve just installed pulseaudio pack!
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10:58<tosted>:P
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10:58<tosted>and of course set hdmi output
10:59<sitoumbaz>very fine
10:59<tosted>dpkg guided me! :D
10:59<dpkg>tosted: are you smoking crack?
10:59<tosted>not today!
10:59<tosted>.o0
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11:00<havvky>does any know howto install a minimalistic debian? e.g. just kernel, init and shell? starting from a netinstall iso?
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11:01<ayaka>havvky in fact there is a project make debian in initramfs
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11:03<gnugr>havvky: yes, netinstall iso sounds okay getting the base system
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11:05<havvky>gnusosa: i just want a base system with a shell und not 600mb system. i like the idea of debian-live. its highly configurable. but howto getting it on a disk?
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11:09<tosted>thanks all involved! bye everyone...
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11:10<jordanm>havvky: doesn't it generate an ISO?
11:11<havvky>jordanm: yeah...
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11:31<IBM>hi all
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11:46<passstab>sorry
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12:09<petrol91>hi
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12:10<IBM>can u help me pls to set up my wifi?
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12:13<IBM>also i have installed google chrome but there is no icon in the menu
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12:14<petrol91>Could you help me configuring iptables rules?
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12:14<chealer>!ask to ask
12:14<dpkg>Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! If you're unsure how to phrase your question, ask me about <ask>.
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12:21<petrol91>i;ve seted uo my iptables like here bu it wont work as i want
12:22<sney>I have found that Shorewall is a great way to handle iptables, the configuration syntax makes a lot more sense
12:22<sney>easier to remember, good documentation, etc
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12:27<petrol91>i want to simply redirect packets sendet to IP1 to IP2 and do it backward
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12:29<Blitzmerker>Hi, how can I fix a broken Grub installation?
12:29<sney>!fixmbr
12:29<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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12:30<marek_>witam
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12:31<Blitzmerker>sney: I used supergrub to boot, but grub-install /dev/whatever dosn't work
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12:31<salaria>Hey
12:31<salaria>is there any one?
12:31<salaria>i need help
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12:32<sney>you have to follow all the instructions, and /dev/whatever refers to your root device, so it's probably /dev/sda? you should be able to figure it out
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12:32<sney>salaria, just ask your question.
12:33<salaria>I am new to linux jus migrated to it few weeks back
12:33<salaria>although i have good hand on it
12:33<sney>what version
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12:33<salaria>its ubuntu 10.04
12:33<sney>!ubuntuirc salaria
12:33<dpkg>salaria: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
12:34<salaria>ok dpkg
12:34<salaria>thanx
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12:37<Blitzmerker>sney: supergrub "just" lets me boot my installed linux, install-grub /dev/sda tells me "Installation finished. No error reported." but when I reboot all that it looks like: while(true) echo GRUB
12:38<sney>are you sure /dev/sda was your hard drive?
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12:39<Blitzmerker>yes
12:39<Blitzmerker>it uses GPT
12:41<sney>and you ran *both* update-grub and grub-install?
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12:42<Blitzmerker>yes
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12:43<Blitzmerker>But I will try to reboot now, brb
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12:45<Blitzmerker>still just spams "GRUB" instead of bootselection
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12:47<sney>Blitzmerker, any weird hardware?
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12:48<Blitzmerker_>any Idea?
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12:51<sney>Blitzmerker_, any weird hardware?
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12:54<Blitzmerker_>sney: the HDD? It is a Intel SSD, everything worked fine, until I did the last apt-get upgrade
12:54<ayaka>do yoi
12:54<sney>apt upgrades shouldn't touch grub unless there was a new kernel
12:54<ayaka>sorry
12:54<ayaka>do you use efi bios
12:55<ayaka>and one time my /boot don't mount proprely also cause some problem
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12:56<Blitzmerker_>not sure, but the SSD has a GPT
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12:56<sney>partition tables are pretty much irrelevant to grub, since it gets installed in the master boot record
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12:56<sney>that is, the partitions themselves are outside grub's scope
12:57<Blitzmerker_>sney: so how can I find out?
12:57<ayaka>i have isolate boot, but grub2 will use the boot in /, after boot in, /boot be mount, any change apply to it, but in fact it is not change in grub2 boot, because it read boot in /
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12:57<ayaka>Blitzmerker_ install grub2-efi
12:58<Blitzmerker_>it is installed
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12:59<Blitzmerker_>(I experimented a bit with Grub since it is not working, I don't know if it was installed before)
12:59<ayaka>sney then how to install it to same thing like mbr
13:00<ayaka>Blitzmerker_ wait sney's answer
13:01<sney>ayaka, you make everything confusing
13:01<ayaka>sney sorry
13:02<sney>Blitzmerker_, do you have a separate /boot partition?
13:02<Blitzmerker_>no
13:02<sney>ok so ayaka's idea was irrelevant anyway
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13:03<sney>is your supergrub disk usb?
13:03<ayaka>sney i think it call grub-pc to do that, so that is the problem
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13:04<ayaka>last time, someone get that problem
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13:05<sney>ayaka, grub-pc and grub2 are the same thing. you are not making any sense.
13:05<Blitzmerker_>sney: yes supergrub is installed on a usb stick
13:06<ayaka>sney, oh someone tell me biso version and efi version is different
13:06<ayaka>s/biso/bios
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13:06<sney>ayaka, if you want to suggest something, please take a moment to decide what you are going to say, and then say it all at once. use short sentences.
13:06<abrotman>ayaka: that doesn't mean grub2 and grub-pc are different
13:07<ayaka>sney sorry
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13:08<sney>Blitzmerker_, I ask because on some hardware, booting from usb causes the usb device to take /dev/sda. I'm sorry to keep coming back to this but it really sounds like your mbr has been untouched
13:08<ayaka>so, what is grub2 bios version called and grub2,efi version
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13:08<ayaka>sney nad GPT still use mbr?
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13:10<sney>mbr is just a hd bootsector, but let me double check
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13:11<ayaka>yes, in my memories, GPT only use it to lock and prevent being broken by old tool
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13:12<sney>Blitzmerker_, looks like you may also need to run gptsync, it's not clear whether that's for grub-legacy only or grub2 as well
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13:13<Blitzmerker_>sney: where can I get gptsync?
13:14<sney>'apt-get install gptsync'
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13:14<sney>or just download it from packages.debian.org and truck it over on a flash drive or something. it doesn't have any extra dependencies.
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13:15<abrotman>/win 1
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13:16<ayaka>became more and more confused ????????
13:16<Blitzmerker_>I will reboot, brb
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13:16<sney>ayaka, no kidding. please return to your english classes.
13:17<ayaka>1. does grub2-pc include bios version and efi default installed in debian2.does GPT still use mbr for important fuction
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13:26<Blitzmerker>I did gptsync, and it fixed something, but it is still not working
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13:28<sney>Blitzmerker, gptsync and then update-grub and then grub-install
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13:29<Blitzmerker>sney: that is what I did
13:29<salaria>hello hello hello
13:30<sney>huh, well that's pretty weird, could be a hardware problem
13:30<sney>salaria, this is still not the ubuntu channel
13:31<Blitzmerker>but grub-install seems to be broken: no matter which "device" I pass it allways tells me "Installation finished. No error reported." even if the device does not exist
13:31<sney>oh that's interesting
13:31<sney>does grub-install accept a -v option or something to give more verbose output?
13:31<Blitzmerker>no
13:32<sney>(I'm currently waiting for a part for my debian machine so I can't check)
13:34<salaria>how to see al channel list?
13:34<Blitzmerker>I will try to downgrade grub to a older version
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13:39<Blitzmerker>brb
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13:56<Blitzmerker>sney: looks like downgrading grub-pc (and removing grub-efi) fixed the problem
13:56<Blitzmerker>thx
13:56<sney>ok
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13:58<ayaka>how do you call grub2-efi version and bios version
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14:00<devil>Blitzmerker: what you experience is just a warning afaik, not a bug
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14:01<Blitzmerker>devil: what do you mean?
14:01<devil>Blitzmerker: it warns you that, if you put grub to partition, and mbr is empty, you'll nbe in the dark
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14:03<devil>Blitzmerker: look at 2nd posting here: http://siduction.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2143&highlight=
14:03<devil>Blitzmerker: http://paste.siduction.org/20120403174150.png
14:04<devil>Blitzmerker: is that what you get?
14:04<sney>devil, he was getting an unbootable system.
14:05<devil>sney: well, some people had this. I believe, grub is just not very good at explaining what it dies
14:05<devil>does, even
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14:06<Blitzmerker>devil: yes
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14:06<devil>sney: Blitzmerker was in our channel this morning, but when i saw it, he was gone
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14:06<devil>Blitzmerker: so you want grub in partion? what about mbr?
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14:07<devil>some other distro's grub is in mbr?
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14:07<Blitzmerker>devil: I thought it was fixed, when I installed grub-efi, because there were no errors when doing grub-install
14:07<sney>devil, the problem is taken care of
14:07<sney>(isn't it?)
14:08<Blitzmerker>Only siduction is installed
14:08<devil>not sure at the moment, as I get differing info from different people
14:08<sney>oh, the sid users' club
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14:09<devil>then this is the wrong channel :)
14:09<sney>quite
14:09<devil>and #debian-next is only halfway right
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14:10<devil>Blitzmerker: you can move to #siduction-de
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15:02<devil>sney: to close this off. bug is closed in grub-pc 1.99-21, hitting the repos in an hour or so. It had nothing to do with GPT. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23666992
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15:03<sney>yeah, I thought that was a red herring
15:03<sney>I wish I'd known he was using sid
15:03<devil>yeah, would have saved time
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15:04<sney>somehow I didn't ask "what debian version" like usual
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15:12<ratnick>is Thunderbird going to be updated after support lapses?
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15:18<jordanm>ratnick: icedove security support will be provided for the duration of the release cycle ( or be pulled from the repos )
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15:27<ratnick>jordann: thanks
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15:54<smhar>anyone with a dreamplug device running squeeze? I can not seems to set the wifi in AP mode to give an IP
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15:55<sney>smhar, hosting a wifi network from your debian pc? do you have a dhcp server running?
15:56<smhar>sney, I am not sure if it running but I do have both /etc/dhcp/ and /etc/dhcp3/ directories
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15:56<smhar>sney, /etc/dhcp/ has dhclient.conf dhclient-enter-hooks.d dhclient-exit-hooks.d dhcpd.conf
15:57<sney>it sounds like you have a dhcp server installed, anyway
15:57<smhar>sney, and /etc/dhcp3/ has dhclient.conf dhclient-enter-hooks.d dhclient-exit-hooks.d
15:57<sney>you'll want to look at that dhcpd.conf and make sure it's set up according to what you're trying to do
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15:58<smhar>sney, I can see the AP but I can not get an IP
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15:58<sney>dhcp server is what gives out dynamic ips, smhar
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16:02<smhar>sney, http://pastebin.com/CZvQkSas, only talks about eth not wifi, not sure what to change/add
16:03<sney>dhcpd.conf
16:03<sney>not dhclient...
16:04<smhar>ohh, let me check
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16:09<smhar>sney, I change it to what I know, http://pastebin.com/dQtWyeWn
16:09<smhar>is this enough?
16:09<sney>!pastebin.com
16:09<dpkg>pastebin.com takes forever to load, makes us enter a captcha to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please either link the raw paste (pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pasteid) or use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
16:10<sney>smhar, please just read man dhcpd.conf and learn to do it yourself
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16:17<i_become_be_a_programmer>hello! whats the channel of the spanish comunity?
16:17<sney>#debian-es
16:17<i_become_be_a_programmer>thank you!
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16:32<matpeshka>zxccv
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16:32<matpeshka>guten tag
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16:33<matpeshka>есть кто?
16:34<smhar>sney, what is the difference between mlan0 and uap0?
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16:34<sney>smhar, I don't recognize either of those, but they look like interface names (maybe you meant wlan0 and tap0?)
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16:36<smhar>sney, iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/8e04PAVY , ifconfig -a : http://pastebin.com/m1PvDg7d
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16:37<matpeshka>здесь вообще кто нибудь говорит, или все входят и выходят?
16:38<matpeshka>входит и выходит, замечательно выходит )))
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16:39<sney>smhar, I'm not going punch in a captcha to look at any more pastes, please use a different site or link the "raw" paste
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16:44<smhar>that is the debian's pastebinit :-) this is a cut and paste version: http://pastebin.com/tiedk4Pi
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16:48<Guest609>using openSUSE and lovin'it
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16:50<movl>nice to know that :P
16:51<movl>wtf is wrong with people
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17:22<linx_>hi
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17:27<yoguisu>hi
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17:28<student>tequilla
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17:28<student>ok
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17:28<student>way u from
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17:55<math>hi
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17:57<retrospectacus>math: hello!
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18:08<nastia____________________>ola
18:08<retrospectacus>!es
18:08<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
18:08<nastia____________________>helo
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19:37<scientes>when and who is going to get the infrasturcture built to have launchpad build for debian?
19:37<daemonkeeper>sorry what?
19:37<scientes>or ever more specifically: the software hosted/built by canonical's launchpad
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19:40<retrospectacus>why would anyone?
19:40<scientes>cause software developers are using it as a platform
19:41<daemonkeeper>You want Launchpad for Debian?
19:41<scientes>well, just the software that launchpad hosts
19:41<scientes>not all the other shit
19:41<scientes>(personal opinion there)
19:41<retrospectacus>I don't think Debian is interested in any such system. I know I'm not
19:42<daemonkeeper>It's not. This was clearly discussed some months ago.
19:42<scientes>its just that launchpad only builds for ubuntu, not debian, which is stupid
19:42<themill>A real question that isn't full of buzzwords might even get an answer. (other than "ask #ubuntu")
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19:43<scientes>im not using buzzwords
19:43<scientes>its just there alot of software there, and while you CAN install the version build for ubuntu on debian
19:43<themill>"platform" "hosted"... none of this actually means anything
19:43<scientes>there can be version problems
19:44<scientes>themill, i'm trying to differentiate between launchpad the software, and launchpad, canonicals instance (and basically only instance) of the software
19:44<scientes>it runs a build service for 3rd party software
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19:44<scientes>opensuse's build service, for example, can build against ubuntu, debian, fedora, rhel, and opensuse
19:45<scientes>but launchpad builds ONLY against ubuntu
19:45<themill>wth do you mean by "builds against"?
19:45<scientes>the versions, and naming of the libraries of that distribution
19:45<retrospectacus>the whole concept behind "launchpad" goes against debian philosohies IMHO. We should continue in #debian-offtopic though
19:45<themill>"builds for" perhaps?
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19:48<streuner>scientes: launchpad is ubuntu
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19:48<streuner>so, its really OT here...
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20:38<liam>hi
20:38<nykac>hello'
20:38<liam>Anyone play minecraft?
20:39<liam>Take that as a no.
20:40<liam>Every one ok?
20:42<liam>How old do you have to be to come on this sever?
20:42<diraol1>Hi friends, does anyone has a good reference about how to setup an openLdap Server on a Debian Squeeze without a domain, just using the ip address over the web?
20:43<liam>hmm no sorry
20:44<nykac>http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin24/
20:44<liam>ok im only 13 is that old anuff to come on this server ?
20:44<liam>Well chat thing.
20:45<nykac>liam: if you want to chat go to freenode.
20:45<liam>Ok but i want to talk about computer programing.
20:46<themill>or #moocows
20:46<nykac>diraol1: is this going to be on a LAN?
20:46<diraol1>nykac, not, it's not going to be on a LAN.
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20:47<nykac>diraol1: is your ip static?
20:47<diraol1>nykac: yeah. =)
20:47<liam>Im making a website.
20:47<liam>its not the best but i try.
20:49<nykac>diraol1: have you tried subsituting your ip in the place where the domain name typically goes?
20:50<diraol1>hum... actually i'm starting a new oldap server right now, and i was looking for this info before doing things. can i use "dc=$IP_ADDRESS" ?
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20:50<nykac>diraol1: probabally, just try and see if it works.
20:50<nykac>diraol1: that's how i solve most of my problems
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20:51<diraol1>nykac: thanks, i'm trying to make docs of all my steps on this new server :)
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20:52<diraol1>and about a tutorial of openldap on debian squeeze the best is the oldap official generic doc?
20:52<nykac>diraol1: that will be helpful for others, if useing an ip doesn't work, you can try dyndns, freedns.afraid.org or some other service
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20:52<diraol1>yeah, i thought about it, but i didn't want to use this on this server .... but ok ...
20:53<nykac>diraol1: you can use that as a last resort
20:53<diraol1>yeap
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21:04<DragonDon>know of no other place that could appreciate this more: http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/funny-gif-Chuck-Norris-Mario-game.gif
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21:04<nykac>DragonDon: saw that on diaspora earlier
21:05<DragonDon>damn you xchat for opening another window while I was typing in another channel...
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21:07*DragonDon wishes diaspora had a native android client
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21:08<nykac>DragonDon: me two, probabally not going to happen until the api is stable
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21:37<DragonDon>does anyone know the terminal command that brings up the sound configuration application? something lik e'soundconfig' or that. sigh, can't recall
21:37<nykac>alsamixer?
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21:38<DragonDon>nope, damn I hate it when I forget that.
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21:39<DragonDon>wait, I thought forsure I was running ALSA, yet alsomixer was showing Pulse....
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21:55<miticko>I have a stupid question. I want to copy a dir to another place, copy not move, how do i do this?
21:56<sney>cp -a directory destination
21:56<miticko>thank you :D
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22:59<hendry>what's the simplest way of checking a Debian package is installed via a shell script?
23:00<nykac>dpkg -s
23:00<dpkg>nykac: bugger all, i dunno
23:00<nykac>hendry: dpkg -s
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23:23<tosted>!codecs
23:23<dpkg>A codec (portmanteau of "compressor-decompressor") is a program or device used to encode/decode a data stream or signal. Ask me about <libavcodec>, <w32codecs>.
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23:24<tosted>!libavcodec
23:24<dpkg>libavcodec is an audio/video <codec> library, able to decode Windows Media Video variants, Sorenson/QuickTime versions, old RealVideo formats and others. Part of the <ffmpeg> and <libav> projects. For multimedia formats without an available open source implementation, ask me about <w32codecs> for binary-only codecs.
23:24<tosted>!avi
23:24<dpkg>Audio Video Interleave (AVI) is a multimedia container format. For playback, ask me about <gstreamer>, <mplayer>, <vlc>, <xine>.
23:25<tosted>!mplayer
23:25<dpkg>MPlayer is a movie player for Unix-like systems. Binary codecs can be provided with the package-supplied binary_codecs.sh script or <w32codecs>. For DVD support, ask me about <dvd playback>. Unofficial packages are available on <debian-multimedia>. As an alternative, use a player based on <xine> or <vlc>. Also ask me about <mplayer faq>, <mencoder>. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ #mplayer on irc.freenode.net.
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23:33<arinov_>where can i get debian 5.0.10?
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23:39<Guest619>guys i'm trying to get hdjmod driver to work with mixxx on avlinux. could anyone help?
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23:49<nykac>arinov_: i don't think debian 5 is avalible to download off of a mirror
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23:52<nykac>arinov_: try using debootstrap
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23:59<ebe>how to change proftpd mode to standalone mode?
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