Back to Home / #debian / 2012 / 04 / Prev Day | Next Day
#debian IRC Logs for 2012-04-11

---Logopened Wed Apr 11 00:00:07 2012
---Daychanged Wed Apr 11 2012
00:00-!-symptom [~symptom@99-162-145-198.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
00:03-!-kriller_ [~kriller@2009ds2-gj.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:10<scientes>well it will, it will load the framebuffer
00:15-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
00:18-!-klono is now known as zz_klono
00:19-!-Infra_HDC [~askinfra@skazo4nik.comex.ru] has joined #debian
00:19-!-headyadmin [~headyadmi@pool-108-23-214-223.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
00:20-!-Rehnquist [~yossarian@ip-89-103-71-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #debian
00:21-!-antes [~antes@108-75-206-231.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2]
00:22-!-prem [~prem@218.248.25.99] has joined #debian
00:23-!-adb [~adb@178-211-226-40.dhcp.voenergies.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:23-!-celim [~celim@58.71.19.178] has joined #debian
00:23-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:26-!-celim [~celim@58.71.19.178] has quit []
00:27-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.10.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:31-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.27.229] has joined #debian
00:34-!-celim [~celim@58.71.19.178] has joined #debian
00:35-!-celim [~celim@58.71.19.178] has quit []
00:36-!-micove [~micove@72.187.240.39] has joined #debian
00:37-!-tsar [~alqaysar@188.249.19.145] has joined #debian
00:39-!-toote [~toote@190.210.68.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
00:39-!-Martian67_ [~Martian67@2001:470:a:782::2] has joined #debian
00:39-!-Martian67 [~Martian67@2001:470:a:782::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:40-!-scorphus [~scorphus@scorphus.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:42-!-pastubbs [~pa@host-184-174-128-161.AMNOLT1.epbfi.com] has joined #debian
00:43-!-gatekeeper [~gatekeepe@187.106.185.179] has joined #debian
00:43-!-gatekeeper [~gatekeepe@187.106.185.179] has quit []
00:48-!-stompy [~stompy@75.110.31.179] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:49-!-robbiethe1st [~robbiethe@50-52-13-12.cral.id.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:49-!-Martian67_ [~Martian67@2001:470:a:782::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:50-!-Martian67 [~Martian67@2001:470:a:782::2] has joined #debian
00:50-!-levabalkin [~levabalki@188-240-42-69.alizone.ro] has joined #debian
00:52-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:52-!-clopez [~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:53-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has joined #debian
00:57-!-ikarso [~ikarso@static-212.214.94.164.addr.tdcsong.se] has joined #debian
00:57-!-Martian67 [~Martian67@2001:470:a:782::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:04-!-Rehnquist [~yossarian@ip-89-103-71-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:05-!-stompy [~stompy@r75-110-31-179.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #debian
01:08-!-jm_ [flier@icc.mindwipe.org] has joined #debian
01:08-!-ikarso [~ikarso@static-212.214.94.164.addr.tdcsong.se] has left #debian [Leaving]
01:12-!-tsar [~alqaysar@188.249.19.145] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
01:12-!-yudha [~yudha@182.2.34.243] has joined #debian
01:13<yudha>testing
01:13-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.27.229] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:13<yudha>try using kubuntu
01:14-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.27.229] has joined #debian
01:17-!-aranax [~aranax@190.149.180.254] has joined #debian
01:18-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.1.220] has joined #debian
01:19-!-kixz [~kixz@91.99.1.19] has joined #debian
01:20-!-stompy [~stompy@r75-110-31-179.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:20-!-kixz [~kixz@91.99.1.19] has quit []
01:23-!-lionel [~lionel@ip-52.net-81-220-93.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:23-!-lionel [~lionel@ip-52.net-81-220-93.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
01:24<scientes>!ubuntuirc | yudha
01:24<dpkg>| yudha: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
01:27-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
01:28-!-albert [~albert@201.18.5.134] has joined #debian
01:28-!-albert [~albert@201.18.5.134] has quit []
01:30-!-theuser_ [~geek@c-24-19-43-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
01:30-!-andybooth [~boothy@85.Red-83-55-116.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
01:31<theuser_>is there a program to organize desktop windows when i have multiply windows up?
01:32-!-bfly_ [~bfly@p57BD6668.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
01:32-!-eliveuser [~eliveuser@86.Red-79-154-242.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
01:33-!-eliveuser [~eliveuser@86.Red-79-154-242.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
01:34<jm_>theuser_: your window manager organizes them
01:36-!-aranax [~aranax@190.149.180.254] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:38-!-tensorpudding__ [~michael@99.32.56.43] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:39-!-bfly [~bfly@p57BD66FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:40-!-theuser_ [~geek@c-24-19-43-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:40-!-Martian67 [~Martian67@2001:470:a:782::2] has joined #debian
01:40-!-towo^work [~towo@port-212-202-129-192.static.qsc.de] has joined #debian
01:43-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
01:43-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:44-!-jet [~jet@239-53-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
01:46-!-jet [~jet@239-53-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
01:48-!-jet [~jet@239-53-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit []
01:49-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
01:51-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
01:57-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has joined #debian
01:59-!-levabalkin [~levabalki@188-240-42-69.alizone.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:03-!-MissionCritical [~MissionCr@124-170-7-233.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:04-!-yudha [~yudha@182.2.34.243] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
02:05-!-blair [~blair@static-108-0-197-17.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
02:05-!-rsalveti` [~rsalveti@186.214.58.187] has joined #debian
02:05-!-zz_klono is now known as klono
02:07-!-rsalveti [~rsalveti@177.99.132.128] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
02:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 476] by debhelper
02:13-!-jet [~jet@239-53-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
02:14-!-mlundblad [~marcus@193.12.106.2] has joined #debian
02:17-!-frak [~frak@204.28.116.23] has joined #debian
02:18-!-afuentes [~afuentes@95.61.119.171] has joined #debian
02:19-!-NickStone [~noreply@c-68-40-23-217.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #debian
02:20-!-frak [~frak@204.28.116.23] has quit []
02:21-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
02:21-!-MissionCritical [~MissionCr@124-148-183-218.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
02:23-!-dondelelcaro [~don@hemlock.ucr.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:23-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:23-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
02:27-!-dondelelcaro [~don@hemlock.ucr.edu] has joined #debian
02:28-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has joined #debian
02:31-!-klono is now known as zz_klono
02:31-!-toto42 [~toto@p5B393DA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
02:32-!-oiig_ [oiig_@112.161.134.227] has joined #debian
02:33-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
02:34-!-zz_klono is now known as klono
02:35-!-jardiamj [~jardiamj@rdbk.p3-221.molalla.net] has joined #debian
02:36-!-NickStone [~noreply@c-68-40-23-217.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #debian []
02:36-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-52-181-234.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:36-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-190.telpol.net.pl] has joined #debian
02:36-!-fabrianchi_ [~fabrianch@r186-52-181-234.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:36-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-52-155-66.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
02:39-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
02:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 485] by debhelper
02:41-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-7-207.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:41-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-7-207.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
02:42-!-mpthompson [~IceChat7@c-50-131-39-81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
02:42-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has joined #debian
02:44-!-kiwnix [~egarcia@82.158.154.223.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
02:44-!-thomas [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
02:46-!-Guest1502 [~pierre@c80-217-236-91.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:46-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
02:46-!-kaziem [~devnull@201.201.78.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
02:46-!-ivan` [~ivan`@li125-242.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
02:48-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-092-075-217-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
02:49-!-ant [~anton@host86-163-228-135.range86-163.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
02:50-!-ivan` [~ivan`@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #debian
02:51-!-toabctl [~tom@213.172.126.10] has joined #debian
02:51-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-7-207.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:51-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-7-207.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
02:55-!-levabalkin [~levabalki@89.149.31.66] has joined #debian
02:58-!-luca_ [~luca@151.63.86.102] has joined #debian
02:58-!-luca_ [~luca@151.63.86.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 492] by debhelper
03:00-!-noahfx [~noahfx@190.148.143.10] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
03:02-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.1.220] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:03-!-fr33k [~fvb@546BF34B.cm-12-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
03:03-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:04-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
03:05-!-jardiamj [~jardiamj@rdbk.p3-221.molalla.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
03:08-!-jkf [~Greg_od@212-178-15-28.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
03:11-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-7-207.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:11-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-7-207.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
03:14-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
03:16-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has quit []
03:16-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.187] has joined #debian
03:21-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-149-172-216-243.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
03:22-!-fladi [~fladische@2a01:4f8:150:1ffe:986a:abff:feb2:1513] has joined #debian
03:25-!-malat [~smuxi@bac69-9-88-174-17-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
03:26-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
03:26-!-Madatnek [~adamd@c-fd72e255.035-214-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:27-!-Madatnek [~adamd@c-fd72e255.035-214-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
03:28-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
03:28-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has quit []
03:30-!-_ramo [~ramo@p5DDB7DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
03:30<_ramo>hi
03:30-!-Madatnek [~adamd@c-fd72e255.035-214-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
03:30-!-Xavi [~xavi@171.Red-79-157-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:30<_ramo>i'm using kvm for virtualization. i've created now an qcow2 image and want to duplicate it. on the duplicated image i just want to change the ip
03:31<_ramo>can i do this with a simple copy first.qcow2 second.qcow2 ?
03:31-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:31-!-ao2 [~u@cl-35.trn-01.it.sixxs.net] has joined #debian
03:32-!-Madatnek [~adamd@c-fd72e255.035-214-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
03:33-!-tobia [~tobia@d54C6B0B0.access.telenet.be] has joined #debian
03:33-!-tobia [~tobia@d54C6B0B0.access.telenet.be] has quit []
03:36-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.187] has quit [Quit: going to coffe shop]
03:38-!-floe [~flo@e179009097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
03:41-!-syrt [~syrt@193.219.94.141] has joined #debian
03:42-!-syrt [~syrt@193.219.94.141] has quit []
03:42-!-JustAboY75 [~aLLo@ip-168-66.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #debian
03:42-!-JustAboY75 [~aLLo@ip-168-66.sn1.eutelia.it] has quit []
03:43-!-ant [~anton@host86-163-228-135.range86-163.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:45-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.22.179] has joined #debian
03:45-!-dandersson [~daniel@d-f05.rot.sgsnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:46-!-floe_ [~flo@e179012195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
03:46-!-cloud [~IRC@HSI-KBW-109-192-000-093.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
03:46-!-Q-Master [~qmaster@95-29-185-148.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:47-!-ernesto [~ernesto@web21.amm.unipg.it] has joined #debian
03:48-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:49-!-floe [~flo@e179009097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:50-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.27.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:50-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
03:50-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:51-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has joined #debian
03:51-!-youlysses [~youlysses@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:52-!-JustAboY [~aLLo@ip-168-66.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #debian
03:52-!-JustAboY [~aLLo@ip-168-66.sn1.eutelia.it] has quit []
03:57-!-alienux2 [~theXman@41.251.115.12] has joined #debian
03:58-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.72.19] has joined #debian
03:58-!-MarcoYin [~MarcoYin@64.69.46.241] has joined #debian
04:00-!-wintellect [~wintellec@cpc2-nmal8-0-0-cust1262.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
04:00-!-antonio_ [~antonio@host78-118-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
04:02-!-ypwong [~anthony@222.131.25.166] has joined #debian
04:02<_ramo>does the command "groupadd" not exist in debian squeeze?
04:03-!-zz_andres is now known as andres
04:03-!-alienux1 [~theXman@41.250.85.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:03<jm_>it sure does
04:03<_ramo>ah, sudo
04:04-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:04-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
04:04-!-ypwong [~anthony@222.131.25.166] has quit []
04:04-!-dandersson [~daniel@d-f05.rot.sgsnet.se] has joined #debian
04:05-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:05-!-lp [~Adium@p57B4AF3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
04:05-!-ypwong [~anthony@222.131.25.166] has joined #debian
04:07<lp>what can i do to improve responsiveness when ssh-ing to a remote server? compression is on, but ping times are 300ms and packet loss makes it unfunny
04:08<lp>would something like rlwrap or rlfe help?
04:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 500] by debhelper
04:10-!-Strandhocker [~bjoern@mail.wenzel-elektronik.com] has joined #debian
04:10-!-Strandhocker [~bjoern@mail.wenzel-elektronik.com] has quit []
04:11-!-antonio_ [~antonio@host78-118-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:14-!-Taner [~tkoc@office.hostnetbv.nl] has joined #debian
04:15-!-Taner [~tkoc@office.hostnetbv.nl] has left #debian []
04:18-!-foolano [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:20-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:20-!-imphil [~philipp@irap7n.rad.med.uni-muenchen.de] has joined #debian
04:21-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
04:21-!-Nemoder [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:22-!-Nemoder [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #debian
04:22-!-lp [~Adium@p57B4AF3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
04:24-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
04:24-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.2.220] has joined #debian
04:25-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-7-207.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:30-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.22.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:30-!-Nemoder_ [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #debian
04:32-!-Nemoder [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:36-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
04:36-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:38-!-gael_ [~gael@83.167.43.235] has joined #debian
04:40-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice2n1.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
04:41-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:41-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
04:42-!-DragonDon [~DragonDon@121.132.143.93] has joined #debian
04:44-!-ahmet [~ahmet@212.156.92.82] has joined #debian
04:44-!-ahmet_ [~ahmet@212.156.92.82] has joined #debian
04:45<ahmet>hi
04:45-!-ahmet_ [~ahmet@212.156.92.82] has quit []
04:45-!-ahmet [~ahmet@212.156.92.82] has quit []
04:47<_ramo>hm, i've installed a debian squeeze but somehow i get strange characters in the ssh console: Passwort für »ramo«
04:47<_ramo>how can i change this?
04:48-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has joined #debian
04:49-!-debes [~debes@193.197.73.30] has joined #debian
04:49-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:50-!-MarcoYin [~MarcoYin@64.69.46.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:50-!-stunt [~stunt@197.0.28.132] has joined #debian
04:50-!-debes [~debes@193.197.73.30] has left #debian []
04:51-!-stunt [~stunt@197.0.28.132] has quit []
04:51-!-Nemoder_ [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
04:52<_ramo>how do i add an existing user to a group?
04:52<_ramo>i thought useradd -G group <useram> should do it, but the command always says: user already exists
04:52-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has joined #debian
04:52<jm_>adduser, not useradd
04:53-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:54-!-atlantide [~antares@gw.lipn.univ-paris13.fr] has joined #debian
04:55-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has quit [Quit: leaving]
04:56-!-Nemoder [~quassel@96-39-200-110.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #debian
04:56-!-armani [~armani@cm218-252-220-28.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:56-!-MarcoYin [~MarcoYin@64.69.46.241] has joined #debian
04:56-!-bst [~bst@net24-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs] has joined #debian
04:57<_ramo>jm_: and how? adduser -G group user does not work
04:58-!-aseem [~aseem@122.179.32.103] has joined #debian
04:58<jm_>_ramo: no, man adduser - see the last example in the SYNOPSIS section
04:59<jm_>alternatively, usermod can do what you want, but not the way you're using it
04:59-!-grandie [~Grandad@p4FD4FE25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
05:01<_ramo>hm...
05:02-!-barrie [~barrie@02db1252.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
05:02-!-ypwong [~anthony@222.131.25.166] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:03<gnugr>_ramo:check these examples http://www.debianadmin.com/users-and-groups-administration-in-linux.html synopsis details
05:03-!-antonio_ [~antonio@host78-118-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
05:04-!-armani [~armani@cm218-252-220-28.hkcable.com.hk] has joined #debian
05:05<_ramo>but this just describes how to add new users to a group
05:05-!-fluffmaster [~fluffmast@82-171-135-186.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #debian
05:05<_ramo>or am i blind?
05:07<jm_>if you mean adduser man page then you are wrong
05:08<_ramo>i mean adding an existing user in the system to an existing group....
05:08<_ramo>and looking into gnugr http://www.debianadmin.com/users-and-groups-administration-in-linux.html
05:09<_ramo>got it
05:09<_ramo>...
05:09<_ramo>adduser <user> <group> :/
05:09-!-zlatan [~zlatan@78.28.145.66] has joined #debian
05:09-!-zlatan [~zlatan@78.28.145.66] has left #debian []
05:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 508] by debhelper
05:10-!-jkf [~Greg_od@212-178-15-28.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
05:10-!-fluffmaster [~fluffmast@82-171-135-186.ip.telfort.nl] has quit []
05:10<_ramo>thanks jm_
05:10-!-grandie [~Grandad@p4FD4FE25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:10<jm_>_ramo: no worries - as for your other question; what is "ssh console"?
05:11<_ramo>i've connected through putty to my server
05:11<_ramo>and this is my "ssh console"
05:11-!-fluffmaster [~fluffmast@82-171-135-186.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #debian
05:11<jm_>then you might need to check putty settings, specifically Window -> Translation settings
05:11-!-fluffmaster [~fluffmast@82-171-135-186.ip.telfort.nl] has quit []
05:12<_ramo>yes, got it... remote character set is set to latin1
05:12<jm_>make sure that matches your locale (run 'locale charmap')
05:12-!-barrie [~barrie@02db1252.bb.sky.com] has left #debian [Leaving]
05:12-!-skiold [~adrian@90.161.233.142] has joined #debian
05:12-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.1.187] has joined #debian
05:12-!-grandie [~grandie@p4FD4FE25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
05:13<_ramo>yes, it's UTF-8
05:13<kilelme>earthquake ready at aceh 10 minute ago in 8,9 SR
05:15<gnugr>kileme:where?
05:15<gnugr>kilelme****
05:15<kilelme>in ACeh
05:15<kilelme>indonesia
05:16<kilelme>but not potential to tsunami
05:16-!-natarajmb [~natarajmb@host-92-26-83-154.static.as13285.net] has joined #debian
05:16-!-natarajmb [~natarajmb@host-92-26-83-154.static.as13285.net] has left #debian []
05:16<kilelme>some people panic.... (sorry for my bad english)
05:17<kilelme>sorry.. potential tsunami but right now nothing happen.. just earthquake
05:18-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:18-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has joined #debian
05:18-!-zem [~voodoo@93-139-155-197.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:21-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has joined #debian
05:21<DragonDon>I have tried 3 different tutorials on how to setup Debian and tried to connect to it from my Android phone and getting mixed results. Right now I just get a blank grey screen with the X pointer.
05:21-!-MarcoYin [~MarcoYin@64.69.46.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:21-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:22-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
05:23<SynrG>DragonDon: more info? which tutorials? who do you start X? how do you connect from your phone?
05:23<SynrG>s/who/how/
05:23<DragonDon>SynrG, follwoed this one most recently: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1115024
05:24-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
05:24<DragonDon>I suppose I need to understand a little more. I am logged with a KDE session, was kinda hoping to se what I see :)
05:24<DragonDon>I did use tightvnc server either, just used vncserver straight up
05:24<DragonDon>and since I have Gnome DE installed, do I really need to install it again?
05:25<SynrG>check ~/.vnc/host:1.log
05:25<SynrG>where 'host' is the hostname
05:25<SynrG>you will probably find errors in there, and that should explain what's up
05:25<SynrG>then either edit your ~/.vnc/xstartup accordingly or else take other corrective action (e.g. install some missing package(s)?)
05:26<jm_>x11vnc can be used to access current x11 session
05:26-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has joined #debian
05:26<DragonDon>just checked, that log is empty. host:1/log
05:26<SynrG>well, the tutorial is how to do it on a VPS. is that what you have?
05:26-!-martin_ [~martin@f049139069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
05:27<DragonDon>no. regular machine. Sadly, it was the best detailed how-to I could find, tryng to adapt it to my setup.
05:27<SynrG>do you want to start a separate desktop or just share the one you already have logged in?
05:27<SynrG>as jm_ indicated if you want to do the latter, you really want to use x11vnc instead.
05:27-!-mpthompson [~IceChat7@c-50-131-39-81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Take my advice. I don't use it anyway]
05:27<DragonDon>would like to see the same desktop that I am logged into.
05:28<SynrG>then this tutorial is useless to you
05:28-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f049139069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
05:28<SynrG>install x11vnc, read the doc, and use it
05:28<SynrG>also, generally, don't google for random tutorials. read the doc that comes with the package. if you are still confused, or can't get it to work, ask for help.
05:29-!-nodots [~nodots@cpe-76-186-163-239.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
05:29<DragonDon>I find most documentation severely lacking for my understanding. I work best by following examples and most docs (i.e. man and infos) don't give any of that kind of details.
05:29-!-MarcoYin [~MarcoYin@64.69.46.240] has joined #debian
05:29<nodots>I can't seem to enable php, could someone look over my conf
05:29<nodots>'s
05:30-!-ant__ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice2n1.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
05:30<SynrG>DragonDon: nevertheless, you still have not yet solve your problem, right? in the long run, it is a losing strategy to use randomly located howtos to learn linux
05:30<SynrG>solved*
05:31<DragonDon>so, what 'doc' are you referring to then? just the man page?
05:31<SynrG>yes.
05:31<SynrG>good man pages give an example or two
05:31<nodots>SynrG: randomly located how-to's seem to work far more often than the man/info pages
05:32<SynrG>nodots: file bugs as needed
05:32<nodots>on the man pages?
05:32<SynrG>what good is our doc if it is insufficient to help users use the software?
05:32<DragonDon>you do realize that very few people learn by simply reading a manual right? 6200 lines without examples are pretty much useless.
05:32<SynrG>and how will it improve if you don't read it, critique it, and file bugs?
05:33<nodots>I totally agree that the people writing the how-to should just update the man page...
05:33<SynrG>i'm not going to sit here and argue this point. good day.
05:33-!-rivon [~rivon@glados.sh.cvut.cz] has joined #debian
05:33<DragonDon>no, what would help would be to point to s source that has decent tutorials and not bullet points.
05:34<nodots>I'm not arguing, just sideways agreement ;)
05:34<DragonDon>nodots, NOt saying you were :) Trying to get these Linux elitests to see that RTFM is not useful for those who ave tried and it still did not help...
05:34-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.1.187] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:34-!-ant [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice2n1.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:35-!-grandie [~grandie@p4FD4FE25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
05:36<SynrG>elitist?
05:36<SynrG>do you *know* me, DragonDon? have you known me to be anything but kind, understanding and helpful on this channel?
05:36-!-the-M [~the-M@TK212017102073.teleweb.at] has joined #debian
05:36<nodots>DragonDon: no need to throw the "e" word around... They just (usually) want to make sure that you have, in fact, read the docs first. Elitist does apply to some, however.
05:36<SynrG>i offered advice that i think is correct. that is all
05:37<DragonDon>in case you weren't aware, when soemone asks for help RTFM is alwasy the answer. That isn't help and is a very common sentiment amung those of us trying really hard to learn
05:37<SynrG>if that makes me an elitist ...
05:37<SynrG>i didn't say RTFM. i went into the details of your problem with you
05:37<SynrG>determined you were really asking for something entirely different from the random howto you found
05:37<SynrG>and suggested how to improve your linux problem solving skills in a constructive way
05:38<SynrG>no go, install x11vnc, read the doc, and if it doesn't work for you, please ask here
05:38<SynrG>we will be happy to help
05:38-!-grandie [~thomas@p4FD4FE25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
05:38-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@h87-96-232-93.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
05:38<nodots>apache says that php5 is enabled, but the index.php is downloaded instead of interpreted. Could someone help me find my issue?
05:39-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
05:39<DragonDon>I have x11vnc installed already, I am not trying to single you out in particular, I have tried many times, diff tutorials, perhaps the 'random methos' is not good but it's really all relatively new people have to go on.
05:39<DragonDon>man pages lack details that others need to follow.
05:40-!-no_gatez_fan [~patrick@d192-24-76-113.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #debian
05:40<DragonDon>If you have the real patience in helping, then I am in your debt as I have many, many questions :)
05:41-!-grandie [~thomas@p4FD4FE25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit []
05:41-!-no_gatez_fan [~patrick@d192-24-76-113.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit []
05:42<gnugr>nodots:index.php should be in /var/www to show you "It works!" when you browse http://localhost
05:43<DragonDon>Ok, so I rean "x11vnc -display :0", right out of the man page, I got "PORT=5900" as a response. So far so good seemingly.
05:43<nodots>gnugr: my file is index.html...
05:43<gnugr>where?
05:43<nodots>/var/www
05:43-!-neodimio [~neodi@91.Red-81-35-69.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:43-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:43-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
05:44<nodots>I do have a known good index.php in /var/www/files
05:44<DragonDon>Now, on using androidVNC, I input the IP and password as well as the same port, 'connection refused' as a response. Got a suggestion where next to look?
05:44-!-neodimio [~neodi@91.Red-81-35-69.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
05:44<nodots>DragonDon: what's in your server logs? Might be a place to look to see why the server is refusing a connection.
05:44<gnugr>nodots:what is your issue tho?
05:45<nodots>gnugr: index.php is downloaded as a text file, instead of passed as a page
05:46<gnugr>nodots:do you need that index.php?
05:47<nodots>gnugr: unless I want to code 500 dirs of html files, yeah.
05:47-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
05:47-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
05:47<DragonDon>nodots, /messages log?
05:47<DragonDon>shows nothing ther
05:47<DragonDon>there*
05:48<nodots>DragonDon: look in the files in /var/log. there are several, and I can't remember which one just now.
05:49<gnugr>nodots:i run my website through my debian, i removed index.php and i've in /var/www my joomla files to run straight on web without to use "/"
05:49-!-TheCrittaC [~critta@christopher-lemay-4.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:49-!-bfly_ is now known as bfly
05:49-!-TheCrittaC [~critta@christopher-lemay-4.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #debian
05:49-!-mystx [~mystx@134.102.131.129] has joined #debian
05:50<nodots>gnugr: put another way - <?php phpinfo() ?> as a file fails. Any form of php fails...
05:50<nodots> /as/in/
05:51-!-kostas [~kostas@78-47-21.adsl.cyta.gr] has joined #debian
05:51<gnugr>nodots: did you chown to www-data?
05:51<nodots>wait one...
05:51-!-imphil [~philipp@irap7n.rad.med.uni-muenchen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:51-!-jrib [~jrib@129.10.70.167] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
05:51-!-kostas [~kostas@78-47-21.adsl.cyta.gr] has quit []
05:52-!-mystx [~mystx@134.102.131.129] has quit []
05:53-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.2.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:53<nodots>gnugr: perms of all php match the default index.html, and the html works.
05:53<nodots>perms and ownership
05:54<amitz>by any chance, anybody has a copy of sun_jdk5? it no longer exists in debian repository.
05:54<gnugr>nodots:did you restart apache2?
05:54<nodots>gnugr: yup
05:55-!-jrib [~jrib@129.10.70.167] has joined #debian
05:56<gnugr>nodots:and you sure don't need mysql server database for that .html?
05:56-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.206] has joined #debian
05:56<nodots>gnugr: maybe the 100,000th restart did it. Now to add index.php to the list of default indexes
05:57-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has joined #debian
05:58-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:00-!-scyldinga [~adrian@90.161.233.142] has joined #debian
06:01-!-bumbai [~bumbai@HSI-KBW-109-193-102-152.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
06:02-!-flower [~d@178-25-8-191-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
06:02-!-bumbai [~bumbai@HSI-KBW-109-193-102-152.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit []
06:02-!-skiold [~adrian@90.161.233.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:02-!-ant_ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:02-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:04-!-oznt [~BabartheK@blackhole.science-computing.de] has joined #debian
06:05<oznt>hi, i have a weird problem: my root user can see some pyhton modules and normal users can't ... I have installed these python modules with python setup.py install... how can i know what is going on ?
06:05<SynrG>DragonDon: on the bus, so unable to review the whole conversation. did you specify, e.g. 1.2.3.4:0 when connecting or 1.2.3.4:5900? the former is correct, the latter, not. or if you've already solved it, super. ignore me, then. :)
06:05<SynrG>let me articulate more plainly what i think is wrong with the "google random howtos" approach vs man pages: while often howto writers have a solution geared to their particular problem, it is a roll of the dice whether it exactly matches yours. the man page should contain definitive doc usable by all. so, start with man pages, then use howtos to *supplement* your understanding, not replace it.
06:05<SynrG>the man page should at least answer the questions "what is this software for?" and "how is it usually run?" if not "how do i run it to solve this particular problem?" (which is certainly aided by howtos)
06:05<SynrG>in your plea for help you seemed to have missed the purpose of vncserver, as plainly stated in the man page.
06:06-!-crshd [~crshd@175.141.12.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:06-!-crshd [~crshd@175.141.12.101] has joined #debian
06:06<nodots>gnugr: it will only work if I type in "localhost/files/index.php". If I type in "localhost/files" it gives me a fancy dir index instead.
06:06<DragonDon>I'll blame that on the market for using the same name for a program across multiple platforms and changing the 'purpose'. :)
06:07-!-quang [~quang@113.160.19.198] has joined #debian
06:07-!-user__ [~user@109.226.14.139] has joined #debian
06:08<DragonDon>refresher, I am using androidVNC, so it's a little odd trying to figure out which option goes where. In this case, would the display go into the address field or port field?
06:09<nodots>gnugr: that is not desirable operation.
06:10-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
06:10-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
06:11<jm_>nodots: do you have mod_dir enabled?
06:11<gnugr>nodots:what this index.php contains?
06:11<nodots>jm_: I may want it for other dirs...
06:12<DragonDon>I found this: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-xperms Looking into the X11 permissions answer
06:12<jm_>nodots: what does that have to do with my question?
06:12<user__>I've updated to debian sid, and now in xsane and firefox (and other non qt apps) the text rendering mallfunction : the text (Latin and non Latin letters) looks fuzzy (like someone painted lots of back lines on the text) any ideas ?
06:12<nodots>gnugr: authorization for the files, file manager like display, thumbnails, etc...
06:13<user__>no errors under /var/log/Xorg.0.log
06:13<DragonDon>SynrG, how odd, I am running this as root right now, so permissions really shouldn't be an issue I would expect...
06:13<nodots> /files/files and folders/
06:14-!-pos [~mark@ppp-54-185.grapevine.net.au] has joined #debian
06:14<nodots>DragonDon: what exactly is your goal?
06:15-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.252] has joined #debian
06:15-!-Q-Master [~qmaster@2.92.42.205] has joined #debian
06:15<DragonDon>I want to remote control my system from my Galaxy Tav\b (this is a step in learning how to set up an SSH tunnel for the low-tech VPN approach until I can understand OpenVPN....steps, upon steps...)
06:16-!-pierre [~pierre@c80-217-236-91.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #debian
06:16-!-pierre is now known as Guest1554
06:17<DragonDon>I ultimately want to be worry-free to use publis wifi when I go to Indonesia next month, and while I am South Korea now
06:17-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.53.91] has joined #debian
06:17<gnugr>nodots:is this index.php related with other files? is it their own index.php?
06:18<nodots>gnugr: self contained, known good (well tested), single php file
06:18-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has joined #debian
06:19-!-Chowzzf [~Chowzzf@ip68-101-219-249.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:19-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 514] by debhelper
06:20-!-clopez [~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
06:20-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.252] has quit [Quit: going to coffe shop]
06:22<DragonDon>ah, sweet, using "-auth guess" arg worked like a charm.
06:22-!-ant_ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
06:23<SynrG>DragonDon: yes, X auth is not the same as unix auth. so being root does not apply
06:23<nodots>DragonDon: where did you find that info?
06:23<DragonDon>huh? worked the first time now won't reconnect. Ah, x11vnc closed upon exit. anyone know the switch to keep it open ?
06:23<DragonDon>http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/x11vnc_opts.html#opt-auth
06:24<nodots>DragonDon: maybe you could kindly email the author about adding to the documentation?
06:24-!-prem [~prem@218.248.25.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:24<SynrG>DragonDon: as the man page indicates very early on (sorry to keep harping on it, but it does :) it says the default is to run once and exit and to see -forever
06:25<DragonDon>I saw -forever mentioned but hadn't gotten arund to reading it directly yet, thanks.
06:26-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
06:26-!-c0w0DikantorNyariCewe [~c0w0Dikan@118.96.78.123] has joined #debian
06:26-!-c0w0DikantorNyariCewe [~c0w0Dikan@118.96.78.123] has left #debian []
06:26-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
06:26<DragonDon>nodots, that link is the same guy who wrote the man page. His link http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ is in the man page, it's where I found the extra faq's
06:27<DragonDon>ok, now to add in security :)
06:28-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has joined #debian
06:29<nodots>DragonDon: LOL, so you are saying that there is no reason for the docs to be lacking that info?
06:29<DragonDon>well, it might be in there but I have yet to search the nearly 6300 lines in the man page :)
06:30<DragonDon>hmm, I need to test this under a regular user bfore striking success just yet :)
06:30-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:32<DragonDon>ok, need to sudo the command and use 5902 but it works :)
06:34-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has joined #debian
06:34-!-nestor_ [~smuxi@wan.taric.es] has joined #debian
06:34-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:35-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
06:36<nodots>apache refuses to use index.php as the default index, why?
06:37-!-jeffrin [~jeffrin@49.249.142.39] has joined #debian
06:37-!-DimitryKakadu [~DimitryKa@217.71.235.234] has joined #debian
06:37-!-hychen [~hychen@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:39-!-voland [~quassel@78-83-123-59.spectrumnet.bg] has joined #debian
06:40-!-voland is now known as countzero
06:40-!-floe_ [~flo@e179012195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:41<nodots>I have changed all references of "index.html" to "index.php" in apache2/mods-enabled/dir.conf - still no go.
06:41-!-countzero is now known as c0untzero
06:41-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
06:43<nodots>gnugr: if I rename index.html to index.php (works on all my other servers) it fails
06:43-!-bittin [~bittin@c213-100-108-76.cust.tele2.se] has joined #debian
06:43-!-jeffrin [~jeffrin@49.249.142.39] has left #debian [Leaving]
06:43-!-quang [~quang@113.160.19.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:44<nodots>gnugr: this is the default index.html that is installed with apache
06:44-!-fr33k [~fvb@546BF34B.cm-12-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:45-!-gutoyr [~gutoyr@189.61.230.100] has joined #debian
06:45-!-c0untzero [~quassel@78-83-123-59.spectrumnet.bg] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
06:45-!-skyegg [~olavo@189.125.242.3] has joined #debian
06:48-!-mint [~mint@nrbg-4dbfa856.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
06:48-!-mint is now known as SieB
06:48-!-gutoyr [~gutoyr@189.61.230.100] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
06:48<nodots>gnugr: if I take the default index.html and rename it .php, it works in the /, but not in files
06:48<gnugr>nodots:apache2's index.php contains only "It works!", i doupt if anything else can work just as text
06:49<SieB>hey guys, is it possible to create a loopdevice with starting and ending sector?
06:49<nodots>gnugr: the settings for the / url don't carry to /files/, why?
06:49<gnugr>to run anything else you need mysql-server database
06:49<jm_>SieB: in theory yes, see losetup
06:50*SieB is going to check manual...
06:50<nodots>gnugr: I am not making any calls to mysql
06:51-!-master_ [~mastergov@95-210-183-139.ip.skylogicnet.com] has joined #debian
06:51<nodots>gnugr: let me rephrase that, my *code* isn't making any mysql calls
06:51-!-Q-Master [~qmaster@2.92.42.205] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
06:51-!-master_ [~mastergov@95-210-183-139.ip.skylogicnet.com] has quit []
06:53-!-jespada [~jespada@35-209-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #debian
06:54<DragonDon>so far so good, got x11vnc working on the lan and on the wan, now....let's see how we get it working with an SSH tunnel :)
06:55-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:57-!-cobra18 [~oraion@dynamic-adsl-84-223-201-249.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #debian
06:58-!-Q-Master [~qmaster@2.92.42.205] has joined #debian
06:58-!-Ricki [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has joined #debian
06:58-!-Guest1554 [~pierre@c80-217-236-91.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
07:00<cobra18>ciao raga
07:00<SynrG>DragonDon: i was not suggesting you read all 6300 lines. in the very short introduction, it told you about -forever. that's all i ever expected you to look at, initially.
07:00-!-berto [~berto@192.100.124.156] has joined #debian
07:01-!-oiig_ [oiig_@112.161.134.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:01<DragonDon>SynrG, was talking to nodots, he was suggesting I email the option I found to add it to the man page, but it was found on the author's site. 6300 was mentioned at the sheer size of the man page already :)
07:01<_ramo>how can i set my server time on debian?
07:02<jm_>!set time
07:02<dpkg>To set the time on Debian systems, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. Also verify the system's UTC setting and set the correct time zone; ask me about <utc>, <timezone>.
07:02<SynrG>DragonDon: size is no obstacle when you know how to search using "/"
07:02-!-alephnull [~alok@122.166.233.212] has joined #debian
07:02<DragonDon>search is great, when you know hat you are searching for of course :)
07:02<SynrG>sure
07:02<DragonDon>can I get your opinion on this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ssh-tunneling-poor-techies-vpn
07:03<SynrG>i'm not saying man pages are the be-all and end-all of documentation. just that they should not be overlooked or skimmed too quickly before deciding to look elsewhere
07:03-!-saep [~saep@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #debian
07:03<SynrG>this *particular* man page has a very good introduction, which is why i recommended it without hesitation
07:03<_ramo>tzselect
07:03<DragonDon>SynrG, thanks.
07:03<SynrG>i know that quality of man pages is not uniform
07:03-!-SieB [~mint@nrbg-4dbfa856.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:04<DragonDon>I would recommend stating just that to new commers to things/tasks. Stated that way certainly puts a different feel to things.
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: buh bye!]
07:05-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@pD4B88CB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:05<SynrG>DragonDon: sorry, i don't often have time to rehash the entire topic of the virtue of reading doc each and every time i answer a question. and to have the 'elitist' barb thrown at me when i tried to be nothing but helpful certainly did not help my mood.
07:05-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-22-13.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
07:06<SynrG>DragonDon: what i reacted to was your desperate plea after having read three different random HOWTOs from the net, the last of which wasn't even a solution to your problem. it seemed to me you were going about it the wrong way, which is when i raised the issue of method of learning. while googling random HOWTOs has a certain appeal to those who know very little yet about how linux works ... it is not often a winning strategy
07:07<DragonDon>SynrG, heh, it's funny because from my side of the coin, there are too many places that use RTFM with zero fllowup or other help. So when we beginners see it, time and time again, well ...ya kinda get a little jaded. there are few who have patience to go beyond that.
07:07<SynrG>yes, but i certainly did *not* just fire off an unfeeling RTFM at you, which is why i was rather taken aback by your knee-jerk reaction back at me
07:09<DragonDon>it was just that, knee-jerk reaction. one of those auto-responses as seeing it , albeit in a nicer form, and in part venting from frustration. Allow me to apologize and appreciate that you stayed on :)
07:09-!-pierre_ [~pierre@host-95-199-141-217.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #debian
07:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 522] by debhelper
07:12<jm_>sl -F comes to mind
07:13-!-phdeswer [~phdeswer@HSI-KBW-078-043-064-116.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:13-!-linux [~linux@g229011201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
07:13-!-linux is now known as Guest1560
07:13<Guest1560>!WepCrack-Ubuntu
07:15-!-ghosTM55 [~ghosTM55@li279-245.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:16-!-Guest1560 [~linux@g229011201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit []
07:17<bittin>is linux-image-3.3.0-trunk-powerpc stable or do i wanna run linux-image-3.3.0-rc6-powerpc?
07:17-!-youlysses [~youlysses@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #debian
07:18<SynrG>DragonDon: no problem. no harm done :)
07:18-!-MarcoYin [~MarcoYin@64.69.46.240] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:19<SynrG>DragonDon: for my part, i was perhaps a little cranky and brusque, needing urgently to wrap up, get breakfast, and catch my bus. and glad you got things sorted out in the end, too.
07:19<DragonDon>SynrG, yeah, it works out eventually
07:19-!-crose [~john@lec67-3-82-242-207-47.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
07:19<DragonDon>SynrG, now to figure out why I can ssh into my box on my lan suddenly....fix one thing, break another? ugh
07:21-!-crose [~john@lec67-3-82-242-207-47.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
07:21<SynrG>hah. well, have fun. i have to get some work done
07:23-!-micove [~micove@72.187.240.39] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
07:25-!-Xavi [~xavi@171.Red-79-157-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:25-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-149-172-216-243.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
07:25-!-pierre_ [~pierre@host-95-199-141-217.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
07:25-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-149-172-216-243.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
07:26-!-biologolunar [~bl@190.77.94.72] has joined #debian
07:26<nodots>wow, I hate solving my own problem - and not understanding what changed or how I did it
07:27-!-andrea_ [~andrea@vpngate2.biophys.mpg.de] has joined #debian
07:27<andrea_>hello
07:27-!-freex [~user@88-117-18-18.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:27<andrea_>how could i get input from each line in bash?
07:27<petemc>read?
07:28<andrea_>I want to iterate a single line perl command
07:28<andrea_>on each line of a file
07:28<andrea_>using bash
07:28<andrea_>actually bioperl
07:29-!-quang [~quang@123.24.197.58] has joined #debian
07:31-!-bittin [~bittin@c213-100-108-76.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
07:31<DragonDon>nodots, as annoying as that is, best ot take it and run and hope it never happens again :)
07:33-!-atlantide [~antares@gw.lipn.univ-paris13.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
07:35-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
07:36-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
07:36-!-freex [~user@178-191-212-149.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
07:39-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
07:39-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:40-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:40-!-tensorpudding__ [~michael@99.32.56.43] has joined #debian
07:42-!-adb [~adb@178-211-226-40.dhcp.voenergies.net] has joined #debian
07:42-!-andrea_ [~andrea@vpngate2.biophys.mpg.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:43-!-xfire78xx [~xfire78xx@host9-187-dynamic.46-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
07:43*xfire78xx giorno :)
07:45-!-pierre [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has joined #debian
07:46-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
07:46-!-pierre is now known as Guest1565
07:46-!-Xavi [~xavi@42.Red-79-158-173.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:46-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:49-!-johnLAPA1HE [~lpche@178.73.220.43] has joined #debian
07:49-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:50-!-johnLAPACHE [~lpche@juv34-1-82-225-182-193.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:50<DragonDon>oook, after being over a few resources I can't find how to START iptables. I found a nice little script to stop iptables(http://bash.cyberciti.biz/security/shell-script-to-stop-linux-firewall/) but NOTHING that says 'this command will start/restart iptables" can be found anywhere...
07:51-!-safinaskar [~quassel@188.44.56.155] has joined #debian
07:54<heikkila>DragonDon, that configures a running iptables, so no need to restart it
07:57<DragonDon>heikkila, thanks, I forgot I had installed the iptables-persistent package, loaded back up my rules I do believe :)
07:58-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
07:59-!-wim2 [~wim@cornogrande.khleuven.be] has joined #debian
08:01<wim2>a question about dist-upgrading from lenny to squeeze: firtst i changed lenny to squeeze in the sources.list, but now when running apt-get update i get a lot of ignored (Ign) lines? suggestions?
08:02-!-ernesto [~ernesto@web21.amm.unipg.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:02-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:03-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
08:03<jm_>wim2: upgrade as per release notes or you'll screw up
08:03<wim2>i'm following the ch-upgrading.en.html on the debian.org site, and didnt find any answers i could use on this on google
08:04<wim2>i know, i am following the guide, now at point 4.4.4 on
08:04-!-DeadPanda [~brett@host-92-25-96-213.as13285.net] has joined #debian
08:05<wim2>http://www.debian.org/re~leases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgradingpackages
08:06<jm_>!bat
08:06<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
08:07-!-quang [~quang@123.24.197.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:07-!-biologolunar [~bl@190.77.94.72] has quit [Quit: Bye!!]
08:08-!-jmho [~quassel@port-87-193-192-142.static.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:08-!-jmho [~quassel@port-87-193-192-142.static.qsc.de] has joined #debian
08:08<wim2>the content of my sources.list file is on http://paste.debian.net/162850/
08:09-!-betim [~betim@80.80.160.7] has joined #debian
08:09-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:09-!-betim [~betim@80.80.160.7] has quit []
08:09<wim2>the output of running update command is on http://paste.debian.net/162851/
08:10<jm_>unfortunatelly Genegeerd and Geraakt mean nothing to me
08:11<wim2>Genegeerd means Ign or ignored
08:11<wim2>Geraakt means Hit
08:11<wim2>So why do i have these ignored lines?
08:11-!-jmho [~quassel@port-87-193-192-142.static.qsc.de] has quit []
08:12-!-jmho [~quassel@port-87-193-192-142.static.qsc.de] has joined #debian
08:13<wim2>All the ignored lines are either 'Translation-nl', which is probably not a big deal?, but also 'Packages/DiffIndex' which wories me
08:14-!-remikp [~remikp@89-69-142-130.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
08:15<weasel>maybe the mean "it hasn't changed since we last fetched it"?
08:17-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.123.216.170] has joined #debian
08:18-!-clopez [~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:18-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:18-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #debian
08:19-!-h0n3st [~sadeq@92.42.54.28] has joined #debian
08:20-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8-dev]
08:21-!-bittin [~bittin@c213-100-108-76.cust.tele2.se] has joined #debian
08:23-!-cobra18 [~oraion@dynamic-adsl-84-223-201-249.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
08:23-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
08:23-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has joined #debian
08:27-!-xfire78xx [~xfire78xx@host9-187-dynamic.46-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
08:29-!-and1bm [~andi@HSI-KBW-149-172-216-243.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
08:31-!-user__ [~user@109.226.14.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:32-!-tim_ [~tim@adsl-184-39-21-207.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
08:32-!-saurabh_123 [~xubuntu@117.205.60.72] has joined #debian
08:32-!-saurabh_123 [~xubuntu@117.205.60.72] has quit []
08:33-!-tim_ [~tim@adsl-184-39-21-207.clt.bellsouth.net] has quit []
08:33-!-fike [~fike@187.47.154.140] has joined #debian
08:34-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has joined #debian
08:35-!-user__ [~user@109.226.14.139] has joined #debian
08:35-!-sptrut [~vsmkl@riservato-181-201.dimnp.unipi.it] has joined #debian
08:36-!-sptrut [~vsmkl@riservato-181-201.dimnp.unipi.it] has quit []
08:36-!-guspur [~guspur@110.138.239.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
08:36<Xavi>ihello
08:37-!-oiig_ [oiig_@112.161.134.227] has joined #debian
08:37-!-quang [~quang@123.24.218.96] has joined #debian
08:37-!-saep [~saep@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7]
08:38-!-grandie [~Grandad@p57ACD638.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
08:40-!-zem [~voodoo@93-139-155-197.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
08:40-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:43-!-jkf [~Greg_od@212-178-15-28.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
08:43-!-nodots [~nodots@cpe-76-186-163-239.tx.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:44-!-jm_ [flier@icc.mindwipe.org] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting]
08:46-!-dmz [~dmz@67.216.138.246.pool.hargray.net] has joined #debian
08:47-!-jet [~jet@239-53-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:48<nevyn>DragonDon: start/stop iptables doesn't make much sense really
08:51-!-SLot [~SLot@177.19.245.194] has joined #debian
08:52-!-tr3x [~tr3x@59.164.100.91] has joined #debian
08:54-!-BusMaster [~sagar@pc057221.md.kth.se] has joined #debian
08:54-!-Ricki_ [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has joined #debian
08:55-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
08:55-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:56-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has quit []
08:56<DragonDon>nevyn, so I found out :) BTW, did you ever read Mercedes Lackey books? re:name
08:56-!-anbe [~andreas@141.2.185.14] has joined #debian
08:56-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:57<nevyn>katherine kerr...
08:57-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
08:57<nevyn>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevyn#Nevyn
08:57-!-alienux2 [~theXman@41.251.115.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:57-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
08:58-!-thewanderer_ [~thewander@89-76-147-5.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
08:58<DragonDon>thought so, a rather unique name in the fantasy series :) I based an old D&D fighter as a cross between Cyllyn and conan many, many moons ago :)
08:59-!-miihkael [~miihkael@a91-152-178-234.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
08:59<syn^^>hey guys, by any chance, is there a cmd, for any bots in here, that could tell me what happened to someone with a particular nick, like, 12 hours ago when I had to leave suddenly?
08:59-!-miihkael [~miihkael@a91-152-178-234.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit []
08:59-!-levabalkin [~levabalki@89.149.31.66] has quit []
08:59<nevyn>seen syn^^
09:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 529] by debhelper
09:00<syn^^>I was talking with 'ompaul'
09:00<nevyn>!seen syn^^
09:00<dpkg>syn^^ is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 3s, last said: 'I was talking with 'ompaul''.
09:00<nevyn>!seen ompaul
09:00<dpkg>ompaul <~ompaul@109.255.108.128> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 15h 23m 33s ago, saying: 'movl: who are you asking?'.
09:00<syn^^>ahh
09:00<syn^^>!seen omry
09:00<dpkg>omry is currently on #debian, last said: 'SynrG, thanks.'.
09:00-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@89.146.168.148] has joined #debian
09:01<omry>woot?
09:01<babilen>(and all that can be done in a /query or /msg)
09:01<nevyn>!msg
09:01<dpkg>(1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/).
09:01<syn^^>damn. they're different people.
09:01<nevyn>babilen: yeah I was getting there ;)
09:01-!-Ricki [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:01<syn^^>thx
09:02<syn^^>damn. he was being helpful too.
09:02<heikkila>syn^^, you can probably tell us your current problem with Debian anyway
09:02-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:02-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-092-075-217-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:03-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-092-075-217-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
09:03-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
09:05<syn^^>yeah. ok. I wanted some monitoring tools, so I installed snmp. snmpd, and snmptrapd, and began by reading the documentation and removing any publicly accessible ports it might bind too. It was in fact bound to a high random udp port, and checked the docs, and it's config, and basically it's config should have not resulted in binding to 0.0.0.0:highUDP
09:06-!-thomas [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:06<syn^^>so I double checked, and played with it, and looked in it's /etc/init.d/snmpd for any startup options being passed, and toyed with it, and double checked.
09:07<syn^^>I searched online for any information online with no direct clues, and then started asking in here a few days ago when ompaul went out of his way to look into the problem on his machine even though he didn't need snmpd.
09:08<syn^^>ompaul discovered that on his 'sid', his snmpd behaves according to the documentation. And then I was about to Purge my setup and reinstall with apt-get
09:08-!-ring0 [~ring0@dslb-084-059-074-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
09:09<syn^^>on, debian 6, stable, squeeze, when I was pulled away for something else.
09:09-!-grandie [~Grandad@p57ACD638.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:09-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has joined #debian
09:10<syn^^>now I'm about to apt-get snmpd, and check the behavior again, from clean config. although, there was an issue I remember from the Purge.
09:10<syn^^>ompaul, ok. I did, dpkg -P snmpd snmp snmptrapd, I get a warning: dpkg: warning: while removing snmpd, directory '/var/agentx' not empty so not removed. Which has 1 file, srwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Apr 10 15:37 /var/agentx/master
09:11-!-fish [~fish@static-84-242-79-77.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #debian
09:11-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
09:11<syn^^>Could that old file left behind sabotage my new install of snmpd?
09:11-!-h0n3st [~sadeq@92.42.54.28] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:11-!-fish is now known as Guest1575
09:12*SynrG notices a spurious highlight of his nick and sighs
09:12<syn^^>heh
09:12<syn^^>lol
09:13<syn^^>SynrG, do I light up ur screen?
09:13-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has joined #debian
09:13-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has joined #debian
09:14-!-Guest1575 [~fish@static-84-242-79-77.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:14-!-tdn [~tdn@1503ds1-van.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #debian
09:15-!-lduros [~lduros@dhcp0641.nic.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #debian
09:15-!-pierre [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has joined #debian
09:16-!-Guest1565 [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
09:16-!-pierre is now known as Guest1577
09:16-!-chpln_ [~chpln@ppp59-167-91-125.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
09:16-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has joined #debian
09:17-!-youlysses [~youlysses@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:20-!-hychen [~hychen@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
09:20-!-kriller_ [~kriller@89.184.150.254] has joined #debian
09:21-!-resmo_ [~moserre@adsl-84-227-80-17.adslplus.ch] has joined #debian
09:21-!-chocobo [~chocobo@bas1-terrebonne65-3096502772.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
09:21-!-chocobo [~chocobo@bas1-terrebonne65-3096502772.dsl.bell.ca] has quit []
09:23-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-52-155-66.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:23-!-fike [~fike@187.47.154.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:24-!-jet [~jet@101-105-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
09:24-!-berto [~berto@192.100.124.156] has quit [Quit: bye]
09:24-!-virus [~virus@182.253.15.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
09:25-!-benjy [~benjy@fraiseuz.apinc.org] has joined #debian
09:25-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
09:25-!-alienux1 [~theXman@41.251.115.12] has joined #debian
09:25-!-virus [~virus@182.253.15.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has left #debian []
09:26-!-waqas [~waqas@119.155.17.93] has joined #debian
09:26-!-waqas [~waqas@119.155.17.93] has quit []
09:27-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A905B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
09:27-!-janos_ [~janos@82.117.199.26] has joined #debian
09:27-!-imphil [~philipp@0024d78b42d4.dfn.mwn.de] has joined #debian
09:28-!-resmo__ [~moserre@adsl-89-217-46-185.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:28-!-benjy [~benjy@fraiseuz.apinc.org] has left #debian []
09:28-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:28-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-52-155-66.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
09:29-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
09:29-!-chpln [~chpln@ppp59-167-91-125.static.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
09:29-!-el_robin [~boom@124.193.203.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 538] by debhelper
09:30-!-tlyu [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: leaving]
09:31-!-mandark [~mandark@mandark.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:31-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:31-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
09:32-!-mandark [~mandark@mandark.fr] has joined #debian
09:32-!-jgarvey [~jgarvey@cpe-174-097-248-211.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
09:33-!-Eno [~Eno@66.220.0.80] has joined #debian
09:34-!-fladi [~fladische@2a01:4f8:150:1ffe:986a:abff:feb2:1513] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:35<Eno>Hi, I was wondering if make localmodconfig works for building a new kernel, I tought it would detect everything automaticaly but it asks a lot of question?
09:36-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has joined #debian
09:36-!-Quintasan_ [~quassel@p5DE7AB4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
09:39-!-Ricki_ [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:39-!-imphil_ [~philipp@129.187.237.61] has joined #debian
09:39-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
09:41-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:42-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DE7B9AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:44-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
09:44-!-Guest1577 [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:44-!-cento [~ignorante@ppp-93-212.29-151.libero.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:46-!-imphil [~philipp@0024d78b42d4.dfn.mwn.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
09:46-!-rivon [~rivon@glados.sh.cvut.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:46-!-pierre_ [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has joined #debian
09:47-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has quit []
09:50-!-pierre_ [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has quit []
09:51-!-wintelle1t [~wintellec@cpc2-nmal8-0-0-cust1262.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
09:52-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
09:53-!-cento [~ignorante@ppp-76-238.29-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
09:54-!-jet [~jet@101-105-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:55-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@89.146.168.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:55-!-tr3x [~tr3x@59.164.100.91] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:56-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:56-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
09:56-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has quit [Quit: leaving]
09:57-!-wintellect [~wintellec@cpc2-nmal8-0-0-cust1262.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:58-!-gdb is now known as Guest1583
09:58-!-gdb [~gdb@circe.inetdb.com] has joined #debian
09:58-!-imphil_ [~philipp@129.187.237.61] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
09:58-!-tlyu [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has joined #debian
09:59-!-XeonBloomfield [~XeonBloom@n02.satfilm.pl] has joined #debian
10:05-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.29.233] has joined #debian
10:07-!-pestr [~peter@adsl-195-168-225-196.dynamic.nextra.sk] has joined #debian
10:07-!-hychen [~hychen@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
10:07-!-towo^work [~towo@port-212-202-129-192.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: und wech]
10:08-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.53.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:08-!-pfrost [~pfrost@207.8.235.242] has joined #debian
10:08-!-Guest1583 [~cbell@circe.inetdb.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:09-!-floe_ [~flo@e179017065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
10:11-!-zeromon [~zeromon@ip-109-46-178-178.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
10:12-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has joined #debian
10:15-!-Aledecai [~pegoo@64.red-62-117-169.user.auna.net] has joined #debian
10:15<Aledecai>hi :)
10:15<Aledecai>eoooo??
10:16-!-q66 [~q66@213.191.105.214] has joined #debian
10:16<Aledecai>hi
10:16<Aledecai>:)
10:16<_ramo>what could be wrong if i have a 3Gb/s SATA hdd in my server but iostat i just showing 3M/s ?
10:17-!-safinaskar [~quassel@188.44.56.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:18-!-zeromon [~zeromon@ip-109-46-178-178.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
10:18<DragonDon>_ramo, I think you are confusing terms. Gb is GigaBITS and MB is MegaBYTES. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#SATA_revision_2.0_.28SATA_3_Gbit.2Fs.29
10:18-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
10:19<DragonDon>_ramo, your drive will get about 300MB/s under ideal and optimal conditions.
10:19<blast007>_ramo: 3Gb/sec is the theoretical limit of the bus. The drive isn't capable of sustaining that speed. The only part that would get close is data stored in the cache buffer of the drive.
10:21<_ramo>yeah, but what does it mean, if i just get MB_wrtn/s 6.61 with iostat?
10:22<blast007>_ramo: did you read the man page?
10:22<_ramo>i just installed a minimal debian on my hardware
10:22<pfrost>is there an elegant way to get exim to look up aliases in a directory of aliases files, /etc/aliases.d or so, besides the obvious solution of a cron job generating /etc/aliases with cat?
10:22<_ramo>blast007: no
10:22<blast007>_ramo: 'man iostat'
10:22<Eno>no one knows for make localmodconfig?
10:23<_ramo>blast007: o, i didn't looked on the hard drive io?
10:23-!-DragonDon [~DragonDon@121.132.143.93] has quit [Quit: I'm outta here]
10:23<_ramo>i did: MB_wrtn/s Indicate the amount of data written to the device expressed in megabytes per second. and with my values that means 6.6 mb/s written on disk
10:23<_ramo>isn't that slow?
10:24<blast007>are you copying files?
10:24<_ramo>blast007: no importing to a database
10:24-!-Aledecai [~pegoo@64.red-62-117-169.user.auna.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:25<blast007>then that seems like a normal speed
10:25<blast007>there's going to be overhead when importing stuff into a database, so you're not going to max out the write speed of a drive.
10:25-!-pierre [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has joined #debian
10:25-!-nightsh [~nightsh@188.27.206.214] has joined #debian
10:26-!-pierre is now known as Guest1586
10:26<blast007>it's probably doing reads as well, writing to different parts of the drive, waiting on the CPU and other IO, etc
10:27-!-qerter [~qerter@218-173-21-186.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #debian
10:28-!-clopez [~clopez@fanzine.igalia.com] has joined #debian
10:29-!-kriller__ [~kriller@89.184.150.254] has joined #debian
10:29-!-kriller_ [~kriller@89.184.150.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:31-!-rivon [~rivon@195.113.242.142] has joined #debian
10:31-!-kriller [~kriller@89.184.150.254] has joined #debian
10:33-!-dave_ [~dave@194.244.1.44] has joined #debian
10:35-!-scorphus [~scorphus@scorphus.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:35-!-Namib [~salvatore@host71-19-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
10:36-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:36-!-Namib [~salvatore@host71-19-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
10:36-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
10:38-!-towo` [~torsten_w@178-24-37-129-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
10:38-!-kriller__ [~kriller@89.184.150.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:38-!-gogo40 [~quassel@200.239.65.106] has joined #debian
10:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@42.Red-79-158-173.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:39-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has joined #debian
10:41-!-Namib [~salvatore@host71-19-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
10:42-!-fike [~fike@187.37.204.175] has joined #debian
10:43-!-Namib [~salvatore@host71-19-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
10:44-!-BusMaster [~sagar@pc057221.md.kth.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:46-!-suiside_ is now known as suiside
10:47-!-noroot [~thereisno@h99028.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #debian
10:47-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has joined #debian
10:48-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.30.59] has joined #debian
10:48-!-dous [~dous@203.116.251.234] has joined #debian
10:49-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:49-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
10:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 545] by debhelper
10:52-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@216.251.112.134] has joined #debian
10:53-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:54-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.29.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:56-!-toote [~toote@190.210.68.9] has joined #debian
10:57-!-luninux [~luninux@adsl-207-204-154-38.prtc.net] has joined #debian
10:57<luninux>hi
10:57-!-luninux [~luninux@adsl-207-204-154-38.prtc.net] has quit []
10:58-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:01<syn^^>damn you ompaul. I wonder if you lied to me about your snmpd working right.
11:01-!-gogo40 [~quassel@200.239.65.106] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:02<sney>rude
11:02<syn^^>Does anyone use snmpd? I think, I can't seem to get snmpd to follow it's documented behavior. ompaul claimed that Sid's newer copy of 5.4.3~dfsg-2.4 works right, but it's not working.
11:03<syn^^>My snmpd, on squeeze, testing, and sid, insists on binding to 0.0.0.0 with high random UDP port.
11:04-!-Joe [~horacio@190.247.175.11] has joined #debian
11:04<syn^^>using -x INTERFACE, or just INTERFACE on startup lines, or "agentAddress udp:127.0.0.1:161" in snmpd.conf doesn't work.
11:04<Joe>hi i am getting an error while rotating kern.log it says unknown option "Apr" ignoring line what does it mean?
11:06-!-NIN [~NIN@p5DD28691.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
11:07<syn^^>Joe, how is it done?
11:07-!-vladuke_ [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:08-!-warp10 [~andrea@host140-67-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:08<Joe>first i noticed that kern.log syslog and messages logs were HUGE so i configured the rotation for logrotate but i discovered that the logs weren't rotated so i tried to manually force the rotation aand then i got that error in all the lines of the log
11:09<Joe>i used the command logrotate -f kern.log
11:10-!-mlundblad [~marcus@193.12.106.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:10-!-warp10 [~andrea@host60-50-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
11:14-!-Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:15<gnugr>syn^^:what you mean by saying "My snmpd, on squeeze, testing and sid"?
11:15-!-qt-x [~qt-x@188.24.115.177] has joined #debian
11:15-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has joined #debian
11:15-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:16-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has joined #debian
11:16<gnugr>syn^^: AFAIK you can't mix squeeze/testing
11:17-!-drdanz [~quassel@drdanz.it] has joined #debian
11:17<syn^^>gnugr, First I did dpkg -P snmpd snmptrapd, to purge old configs so that old configs would not alter new install.
11:18<gnugr>for migration?
11:19-!-Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has joined #debian
11:19<gnugr>syn^^: i hope in your /etc/apt/sources.list you don't use /squeeze/testing debs
11:20-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has joined #debian
11:20<syn^^>gnugr, then, by putting entres in /etc/apt/sources.list for stable, testing, and unstable, and setting /etc/apt/preferences, as recommended by docs at debian.org, I set a higher pin-priority for stable packages at 900, 800 for testing, and 600 for unstable, then used apt-get -t sid install snmpd to install a fresh copy of sid's snmpd version 5.4.3~dfsg-2.4, onto my Squeeze
11:21<babilen>syn^^: *Don't* ever mix stable with anything but backports.
11:21<syn^^>gnugr, then, netstat -unpl, shows:
11:21<syn^^>gnugr, udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:56383 0.0.0.0:* 17790/snmpd
11:21<babilen>,checkbackport snmpd
11:21<judd>Backporting package snmpd in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, archignore.
11:21<syn^^>gnugr, snmpd is still breaking it's own documentation.
11:21-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.77.22.79] has joined #debian
11:22<babilen>syn^^: You can easily backport snmpd from sid to squeeze if you want the version in sid by following "/msg dpkg ssb" -- Do *not* mix stable with testing or unstable.
11:22-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@216.251.112.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:22<babilen>,versions snmpd
11:22<judd>Package: snmpd on i386 -- lenny: 5.4.1~dfsg-12; squeeze: 5.4.3~dfsg-2; sid: 5.4.3~dfsg-2.4; wheezy: 5.4.3~dfsg-2.4
11:22<babilen>syn^^: And it looks as if the version in squeeze and sid is more or less the same anyway. :-/
11:22-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has quit []
11:22-!-Guest1586 [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/]
11:23-!-pierre_ [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has joined #debian
11:23-!-pbn [pbn@k-lined.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:24-!-Joe is now known as Guest1595
11:24-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
11:24<syn^^>babilen, somebody, yesterday, told me they use Sid, and that their snmpd doesn't bind to a high udp port like mine does. And so I'm trying to verify their claim.
11:25<babilen>syn^^: Who was that? You really should *never* mix stable with anything but backports if you want a stable system. What is the output of "dpkg -l libc6|tail -n1" ?
11:25<syn^^>I don't understand how anyone can run this snmpd, if it behaves like this.
11:25-!-keep [~keep@pppoe-user-189-36-181-194.frionline.com.br] has joined #debian
11:25-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has joined #debian
11:25-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-88-217-82-157.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
11:26<syn^^>babilen, apt-get didn't install a Single extra package, just straight snmpd
11:26<babilen>syn^^: http://paste.debian.net/162870/
11:26<syn^^>I've got, 2.11.3-2
11:26-!-harry [~harry@host-92-23-249-249.as13285.net] has left #debian []
11:27-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
11:27<syn^^>,versions libc6
11:27<judd>Package: libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.3-2; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.11.3-3; squeeze-updates: 2.11.3-3; sid: 2.13-27; wheezy: 2.13-27
11:27-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:27<babilen>syn^^: Ok, please remove *any* trace of testing, sid and experimental from your sources.list and run "apt-get update". Please paste your sources.list and the output of "aptitude search ~U ; aptitude versions ~o" along with "aptitude versions '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'" to http://paste.debian.net
11:28-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
11:28-!-Metalheaz [~Metalheaz@79.117.98.74] has joined #debian
11:28<babilen>sney: I am just trying to make sure that we get your system into a coherent state again. I should note that I am not familiar with snmpd as packaged in Debian, but would check the bug tracking system (bts) for applicable bugs.
11:29<babilen>syn^^: ^^^^
11:29<babilen>sney: Sorry for the ENICK :-(
11:29-!-rivon [~rivon@195.113.242.142] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:29-!-keep [~keep@pppoe-user-189-36-181-194.frionline.com.br] has quit []
11:29<gnugr>syn^^: you got ompaul's talk totaly wrong
11:29<Metalheaz>hello everybody !
11:29-!-LaYeR^ [~giorgos@adsl-86.109.242.226.tellas.gr] has joined #debian
11:29<syn^^>babilen, calm down. don't worry. I'm good and Scared of mixing versions, I avoid it like the pleague, I typically check ports first, and only when I'm desperate I investigate a mixed with preferences, and careful not to let it do anything nuts.
11:29-!-LaYeR^ [~giorgos@adsl-86.109.242.226.tellas.gr] has left #debian []
11:29<babilen>!ssb
11:29<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
11:30<babilen>syn^^: That is typically much preferred over anything else ^^^^ (if necessary)
11:30<Metalheaz>any of you guys know how disable the dim display when it asks for the root password ? (when opening the root terminal for example)
11:30-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.77.22.79] has quit [Quit: leaving]
11:30-!-roberto [~roberto@151.81.198.179] has joined #debian
11:31<syn^^>gnugr, ohh? what did he say?
11:31<babilen>Unfortunately not -- Lets see if the internet does ;)
11:31-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
11:32-!-roberto [~roberto@151.81.198.179] has quit []
11:32-!-kriller [~kriller@89.184.150.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:32-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
11:32<syn^^>Metalheaz, dim? which interface? u mean a tty, text mode screen? or in X, running gdm or kdm?
11:32-!-ant__ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice2n1.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:32<syn^^>and what does 'dim' mean?
11:33<Metalheaz>in X/Gnome and with 'dim' i mean the greyed out backround
11:33<babilen>syn^^: I guess that metalheadz means that the display is dimmed whenever gnome-polkit-daemon or gksudo/gksu/... asks the user for his/her password when it wants to acquire superuser priviliges
11:34<Metalheaz>yes exactly babilen
11:34<syn^^>i see.
11:34<babilen>I have no idea how you can configure that though :)
11:34<babilen>brbr -- Will google that later
11:34<Metalheaz>i bet there is a way with the configuration editor
11:34-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
11:34<Metalheaz>but i didn't find much on google
11:35<gnugr>syn^^: the only thing i'm sure is that ompaul never suggested you to mix squeeze/testing/sid to get the package/s you need
11:35<syn^^>lol
11:36-!-safinaskar [~quassel@188.44.56.155] has joined #debian
11:37-!-Metalheaz [~Metalheaz@79.117.98.74] has left #debian [Leaving]
11:37-!-Metalheadz [~Metalhead@79.117.98.74] has joined #debian
11:39<syn^^>ok. I did a, grep -v sid sources.list > 2;mv 2 sources.list; dpkg -P snmpd
11:39<syn^^>I wonder where I could go to find someone who uses snmpd.
11:40-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.36.53] has joined #debian
11:41-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@203-214-45-188.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:42-!-dous [~dous@203.116.251.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:42-!-DeadPanda [~brett@host-92-25-96-213.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:42<gnugr>syn^^:btw did you read this http://wiki.debian.org/SNMP
11:44<gnugr>err. this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debain-ubuntu-install-net-snmpd-server/
11:44-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.30.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:45-!-econoh_ [~econoh@c207.134.216-253.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #debian
11:46-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-88-217-82-157.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
11:46<Metalheadz>i found out how to disable it
11:46-!-newb [~chatzilla@177.42.179.226] has joined #debian
11:46<Metalheadz>from the configuration editor
11:46<econoh_>Avons nous des francais aussi ici ?
11:46<ansgar>!fr
11:46<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
11:46<econoh_>thx
11:46<econoh_>im news here ;)
11:47<newb>I'm having trouble with phpmyadmin at Debian Squeeze. Simple do not login and trace no errors, how could I find the problem?
11:47-!-econoh_ [~econoh@c207.134.216-253.clta.globetrotter.net] has left #debian []
11:47-!-toabctl [~tom@213.172.126.10] has quit [Quit: adios]
11:47<Metalheadz>on /apps/gksu the disable-grab option has to be ticked but without babilen pointing out the package in charge with this i wouldn't have done it. thx !
11:48-!-kriller [~kriller@83.91.92.154] has joined #debian
11:48-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.36.53] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
11:48<syn^^>gnugr, Thanks. that is by FAR, the single best, focused and helpful 'single page' styled doc on snmpd I've seen yet, Rivaling their own books at http://www.net-snmp.org/wiki/index.php/Tutorials
11:48-!-afuentes [~afuentes@95.61.119.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:49<syn^^>gnugr, unfortunately, in the last day, I've already learned everything on that helpful page from other docs and experience messing with it,
11:49<gnugr>newb:did you setup phpmyadmin correct with s/passwd/mysql-passwd/apache2?
11:49<syn^^>gnugr, and yet still, I can't get snmpd to not bind to a random high udp port on 0.0.0.0, which seems contrary to it's docs.
11:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 536] by debhelper
11:50-!-__iron [~tobias@ip-141-31-182-26.nat.selfnet.de] has joined #debian
11:50-!-alephnull [~alok@122.166.233.212] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:51<gnugr>syn^^: i don't know much about it, i'm just trying to help to get infos
11:51-!-pierre_ [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:51-!-lovehappens [~muhammad@182.178.228.116] has joined #debian
11:52<lovehappens>nickserv register
11:52-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
11:52<lovehappens>help
11:52-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
11:52<lovehappens>!help
11:52<syn^^>gnugr, I guess the only way to proceed now then, is to either interact with the snmpd project directly, or take a crack at hacking their source..
11:53<gnugr>lovehappens: use "/help register"
11:53-!-safinaskar [~quassel@188.44.56.155] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:53-!-pierre [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has joined #debian
11:53<lovehappens>gnugr i just want to know is there any way to install macbuntu on xubuntu 12.04 yet ?
11:53-!-Alverid [~none@190.252.130.79] has joined #debian
11:54-!-pierre is now known as Guest1599
11:54-!-WildTux [~bluesman@199.Red-83-61-201.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
11:54-!-WildTux [~bluesman@199.Red-83-61-201.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
11:54<sney>!ubuntuirc lovehappens
11:54<dpkg>lovehappens: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
11:54<lovehappens>help register
11:54<syn^^>I'm surprised more debian users don't have issue with it, especially server owners who want to moniter services.
11:54-!-faw is now known as faw0
11:54<gnugr>syn^^: did you see what dpkg says about snmpd?
11:54<lovehappens>!ubuntuirc
11:54<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
11:54<sney>syn^^, yeah, go upstream. it's likely a (semi-obscure?) configuration issue.
11:54-!-alienux1 [~theXman@41.251.115.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:54-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.6.227] has joined #debian
11:55-!-lovehappens [~muhammad@182.178.228.116] has quit []
11:55-!-alienux1 [~theXman@41.251.115.12] has joined #debian
11:55<gnugr>!snmpd
11:55<dpkg>[snmpd] Simple Network Management Protocol Daemon. you need to edit /etc/snmpd/snmpd.conf "access MyROSystem "" any noauth exact system none none", change 'system' under read to 'all' to get mrtg working.
11:55<syn^^>gnugr, thanks. I needed that too!
11:56-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
11:57-!-thewanderer [~thewander@89-76-147-5.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:57-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
11:57-!-superkulak [~nicola@net-2-38-222-141.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #debian
11:58<syn^^>gnugr, but doesn't that give anyone without authentication from any host connecting through any method full Write access to something?
11:58-!-hotwire [~livewire@117.204.109.54] has joined #debian
11:59<gnugr>syn^^: i guess you must wait for someone with expirience with snmpd
11:59-!-thewanderer_ [~thewander@89-76-147-5.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:01-!-cloud [~IRC@HSI-KBW-109-192-000-093.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:01-!-quang [~quang@123.24.218.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:01<syn^^>gnugr, heh. and cause the dang port is random, it's hard to firewall even, without interfering with other random udp port clients
12:02-!-ynot [~ynot@76.7.94.82] has joined #debian
12:03-!-hotwire [~livewire@117.204.109.54] has left #debian []
12:03<Metalheadz>guys how did you set a faster scroll speed through X ?
12:03<Metalheadz>is /Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"/ a good option ?
12:03-!-diego [~quassel@177.66.220.62] has joined #debian
12:03<syn^^>sney, man. there was a semi-obscure configuration issue (was my fault) with Fail2ban, that took me more than a week to track down.
12:04-!-rivon [~rivon@glados.sh.cvut.cz] has joined #debian
12:04-!-alecharp [~adrien@tru75-1-81-57-70-118.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
12:04-!-diego [~quassel@177.66.220.62] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:04<syn^^>sney, turns out it was cause I made a link, cd /var/lob; ln -s apache2 apache
12:04-!-alecharp [~adrien@tru75-1-81-57-70-118.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
12:04-!-pestr [~peter@adsl-195-168-225-196.dynamic.nextra.sk] has left #debian []
12:05<syn^^>sney, because that link existed, it cause Fail2ban to not work at all. I know it sounds impossible, but really, theres a crazy reason why that makes sense if you knew why.
12:05-!-jackyf [~jackyf@a88-115-98-41.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
12:05-!-ynot [~ynot@76.7.94.82] has quit []
12:06<syn^^>I hate those kinds of mysteries!!! makes you want to strangle a hacker!!!
12:06-!-fike [~fike@187.37.204.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:07-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:07-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
12:08-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has joined #debian
12:12-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
12:17-!-user__ [~user@109.226.14.139] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:18-!-supaman [~ojs@157-157-13-195.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is] has joined #debian
12:20-!-wintelle1t [~wintellec@cpc2-nmal8-0-0-cust1262.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving]
12:22-!-ubuntubhoy [~ubuntubho@027b17de.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
12:24-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.6.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:26-!-babilen [~babilen@188-223-11-8.zone14.bethere.co.uk] has joined #debian
12:28-!-usb [~usb@213.182.202.26] has joined #debian
12:28-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@89.146.168.148] has joined #debian
12:29-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.22.205] has joined #debian
12:29-!-usb [~usb@213.182.202.26] has left #debian []
12:29-!-johnLAPA1HE [~lpche@178.73.220.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:29-!-headyadmin [~headyadmi@pool-108-23-214-223.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:31-!-felgru [~felgru@xdsl-78-35-220-228.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
12:33-!-kriller [~kriller@83.91.92.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:34-!-the-M [~the-M@TK212017102073.teleweb.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:34-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
12:34-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:34-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
12:35-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
12:37-!-felix_ [~felix@vpn205-112.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has joined #debian
12:39-!-fluppys2 [~cristian@2-227-178-21.ip187.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
12:40-!-qerter [~qerter@218-173-21-186.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:40-!-gael_ [~gael@83.167.43.235] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:41<fluppys2>sono nuovo mi aiutate?
12:41-!-hannes22 [~h@p4FC6948E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:41-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-092-075-217-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:42-!-hannes22 [~h@p4FC6948E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit []
12:44<devil>!it
12:44<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
12:44-!-mokmeister [~quassel@109.78.2.228] has joined #debian
12:46-!-el_erno [~el_erno@201.141.30.94] has joined #debian
12:47<Eno>!fr
12:47<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
12:47-!-fluppys2 [~cristian@2-227-178-21.ip187.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
12:48<daemonkeeper>Italian was correct.
12:48-!-floe__ [~flo@f052097082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
12:48-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:48-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
12:49<Eno>I know, was trying the !fr
12:51<daemonkeeper>Ask the bot directly then :)
12:51-!-lutz [~lutz@AAnnecy-552-1-185-67.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
12:52-!-lutz [~lutz@AAnnecy-552-1-185-67.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit []
12:52-!-floe_ [~flo@e179017065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:54-!-jon_ [~jon@janus-nat-128-240-225-120.ncl.ac.uk] has joined #debian
12:54-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:54-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
12:54-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar]
12:55-!-bittin [~bittin@c213-100-108-76.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
12:55-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:56-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
12:56-!-mkad [~mkad___@5ED2AED8.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
12:57-!-tester1 [~knoppix@p5DD29896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:59-!-felix__ [~felix@dslb-092-075-217-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
13:00-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:01-!-nestor_ [~smuxi@wan.taric.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:01-!-jalcine [~desktop@174.141.212.41] has joined #debian
13:01-!-ab_fab [~fabien@def92-12-88-177-250-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
13:02-!-ab_fab [~fabien@def92-12-88-177-250-146.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
13:02-!-tester1 [~knoppix@p5DD29896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
13:03-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@89.146.168.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:03-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has joined #debian
13:03-!-ShawnFree [~acidpimp_@97-95-144-123.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #debian
13:03-!-felix_ [~felix@vpn205-112.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:03-!-jalcine [~desktop@174.141.212.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:04-!-mbw290 [~matt@ool-182ebd46.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
13:04<mbw290>anyone here listen to the linux outlaws?
13:05-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-22-13.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:05-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
13:06-!-mentor [~mentor@178.16.14.107] has joined #debian
13:07<kop>mbw290: You could ask in #debian-offtopic
13:07-!-Chowzzf [~Chowzzf@ip68-101-219-249.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
13:07-!-resc_user_7494 [~user@men06-1-82-237-3-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
13:08-!-resc_user_7494 [~user@men06-1-82-237-3-197.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
13:09-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
13:09-!-khorimoto [~khorimoto@74.125.59.185] has joined #debian
13:09-!-mbw290 [~matt@ool-182ebd46.dyn.optonline.net] has left #debian []
13:10-!-khorimoto [~khorimoto@74.125.59.185] has left #debian []
13:10-!-acid [~acidpimp_@97-95-144-123.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:10-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:10-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
13:12-!-matias [~matias@a91-152-232-96.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
13:13-!-matias [~matias@a91-152-232-96.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #debian []
13:13-!-DD3my [~DD3my@dynamic-adsl-78-15-238-7.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #debian
13:14-!-DD3my [~DD3my@dynamic-adsl-78-15-238-7.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit []
13:14-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@pD4B88CB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:15-!-mase [~mase@kemp-5d8605e8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
13:17-!-drdanz [~quassel@drdanz.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:20-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:20-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
13:20-!-kriller [~kriller@83.91.92.154] has joined #debian
13:21-!-thewanderer [~thewander@89-72-201-185.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
13:21-!-johnc [~johnc@66.93.53.90] has joined #debian
13:22-!-alienux2 [~theXman@41.250.203.82] has joined #debian
13:23-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has quit []
13:23-!-ubuntubhoy [~ubuntubho@027b17de.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:24-!-javier [~javier@host193.181-1-249.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
13:26-!-jespada [~jespada@35-209-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:26-!-javier [~javier@host193.181-1-249.telecom.net.ar] has left #debian []
13:26-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:27-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
13:27-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@128.160.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
13:28-!-alienux1 [~theXman@41.251.115.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:30-!-janos_ [~janos@82.117.199.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:30-!-janos_1 [~janos@82.117.199.26] has joined #debian
13:30-!-rage [~rage@hel59-4-88-160-125-53.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
13:33-!-thewanderer [~thewander@89-72-201-185.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:34-!-edog [~edog@alcotrash.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:34-!-salvin [~salvin@host243-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
13:36-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
13:37-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:37-!-thunderrd_ [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:41-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:41-!-Guest1599 is now known as pierre
13:41-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
13:42-!-pierre is now known as Guest1622
13:42-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has joined #debian
13:42-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@89.146.168.148] has joined #debian
13:45-!-chakka [~mbw@jaxi.csde.washington.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:45-!-y2kcorvette [~y2kcorvet@50.9.75.138] has joined #debian
13:45-!-chakka [~mbw@jaxi.csde.washington.edu] has joined #debian
13:46-!-Alverid [~none@190.252.130.79] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:46-!-y2kcorvette [~y2kcorvet@50.9.75.138] has quit []
13:47-!-Chowzzf [~Chowzzf@ip68-101-219-249.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:47-!-Chowzzf [~Chowzzf@ip68-101-219-249.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
13:48-!-fr33k [~fvb@546BFCBE.cm-12-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
13:48-!-Alverid [~none@190.252.130.79] has joined #debian
13:49-!-_ramo1 [~ramo@p5DDB5040.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
13:51-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:51-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
13:51-!-mentor [~mentor@178.16.14.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:52-!-_ramo [~ramo@p5DDB7DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:53-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has joined #debian
13:54<rgms_>Hi. If I download a package from Experimental and after some time a newer version pops up in stable, will the package be automatically upgraded?
13:55-!-el_erno [~el_erno@201.141.30.94] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:55-!-edog [~edog@86.57.155.126] has joined #debian
13:56<supaman>rgms_: if you do a aptitude upgrade, then yes
13:56<rgms_>that's what I meant, actually. Thanks :)
13:56-!-mmgc84 [~mmgc84@190.106.3.78] has joined #debian
13:56<supaman>it only looks at versions (and pinnings), not from what distribution it comes
13:57-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
13:57<rgms_>any estimation is how safe is to install an experimental version of deluged (torrent daemon) on wheezy?
13:57<valdyn>rgms_: <---->
13:58<rgms_>huh? :D
13:58<sney_>rgms_: "about this much"
13:58-!-manio_ [~manio@82.160.187.4] has quit [Quit: leaving]
13:58<sney_>,checkbackport deluge
13:58<judd>Backporting package deluge in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze.
13:58-!-canaima [~canaima@190.39.49.107] has joined #debian
13:59<sney_>well, it might work that way, but remember that experimental is considered too dangerous/weird/etc for sid, so yymmv
13:59<rgms_>well I guess I'll try anyways
13:59<rgms_>thanks for the advice
14:01<sney_>rgms_: you know how to do a self backport? it's much less likely to nuke your system, and you get the upgrade
14:01<rgms_>can't say I do
14:01<sney_>!ssb
14:01<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
14:02<sney_>only in step 1 you'll add deb-src lines for sid and experimental
14:02-!-canaima [~canaima@190.39.49.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:02<sney_>it'll build packages for squeeze that you can then install, rather than mixing stuff compiled for newer branches
14:04<rgms_>I actually already upgraded to experimental
14:04<rgms_>should I like uninstall and reinstall the backport or somethinbg
14:04<rgms_>?
14:04-!-mmgc84 [~mmgc84@190.106.3.78] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
14:04-!-aseem [~aseem@122.179.32.103] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
14:04-!-thomas [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
14:05<sney_>rgms_: well, it really depends on how many dependencies deluge brought with it from sid. you might be fine or you might be in for trouble
14:06-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
14:06<sney_>but even if it does turn out to be ok, don't take that as evidence that installing things from experimental always turns out fine; in fact you were just lucky
14:06<rgms_>I won't
14:07-!-degli [~degli@host168-62-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
14:07-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:08-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
14:08<sney_>also, what supaman told you earlier is not strictly true - yes, it would automatically upgrade to the stable version if stable got a newer version, but that doesn't happen. by definition, stable's versions are all frozen.
14:09-!-Guest1622 is now known as pcarrier
14:09-!-aranax [~aranax@190.56.140.209] has joined #debian
14:09-!-luca_ [~luca@151.63.86.102] has joined #debian
14:09<cento>anyone know how to do an upload speed test with command line?
14:09<rgms_>but I guess it probably would end up in wheezy eventually?
14:10-!-luca_ [~luca@151.63.86.102] has quit []
14:10-!-Metalheadz [~Metalhead@79.117.98.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:11-!-toto42 [~toto@p5B393DA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:11<supaman>not wheezy no, but some stable version
14:11<supaman>could take a couple of years
14:11<supaman>well, could end up in backports
14:12-!-luca_ [~luca@151.63.86.102] has joined #debian
14:12<rgms_>okay. Thanks for your time
14:13-!-luca_ [~luca@151.63.86.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:14-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has joined #debian
14:16-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-88-217-82-157.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
14:16-!-kuhkatz [~kuhkatz@39-17-142-46.pool.kielnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:16-!-Guest1595 is now known as Tyr
14:16-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:17-!-ubuntubhoy [~ubuntubho@027b17de.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
14:17-!-Tyr [~horacio@190.247.175.11] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:17-!-mmgc84 [~mmgc84@190.106.3.78] has joined #debian
14:18-!-el_erno [~el_erno@201.141.30.94] has joined #debian
14:19-!-scyldinga [~adrian@90.161.233.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:19-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@89.146.168.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:20-!-malat [~smuxi@bac69-9-88-174-17-130.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:20-!-anonimous [~anonimous@188.65.69.245] has joined #debian
14:20-!-anonimous [~anonimous@188.65.69.245] has quit []
14:22-!-hubutm20 [~hubutm20@79.114.119.180] has joined #debian
14:24-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
14:25-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
14:26-!-mauricio [~mauricio@167.80.23.190.res.adsl.dyn.click.com.py] has joined #debian
14:26-!-hele [~hele@cs181222070.pp.htv.fi] has joined #debian
14:26<mauricio>hola
14:27-!-mauricio [~mauricio@167.80.23.190.res.adsl.dyn.click.com.py] has quit []
14:27-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.72.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:28-!-janos_1 [~janos@82.117.199.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:28-!-janos_ [~janos@82.117.199.26] has joined #debian
14:29-!-skiold [~adrian@213.27.225.221] has joined #debian
14:30-!-elfo106 [~elfo106@a89-155-185-15.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian
14:31-!-elfo106 [~elfo106@a89-155-185-15.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit []
14:32-!-micove [~micove@72.187.240.39] has joined #debian
14:32-!-XeonBloomfield [~XeonBloom@n02.satfilm.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:33-!-sorina [~sorina@82.77.166.93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:35-!-phdeswer [~phdeswer@HSI-KBW-078-043-064-116.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
14:35-!-nYnHJan [~nYnHJan@88.128.135.253] has joined #debian
14:35-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.72.19] has joined #debian
14:36-!-byonk [~byonk@220-136-177-44.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:37-!-nYnHJan is now known as SaZha
14:38-!-sreenathab [~sreenatha@14.139.82.6] has joined #debian
14:38-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-52-155-66.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:39-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-52-129-65.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
14:39-!-pcarrier [~pierre@bar.office.spotify.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:40-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:41-!-rsteig [~rsteig@masterofbits.com] has joined #debian
14:41-!-skiold [~adrian@213.27.225.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:42-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
14:43-!-salvin [~salvin@host243-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:44-!-salvin [~salvin@host243-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
14:47-!-fike [~fike@C8ECDC6A.dynamic.shd.tesa.net.br] has joined #debian
14:50-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:51-!-Nik05 is now known as Nik0s
14:52-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has joined #debian
14:54-!-cezar [~cezar@92.86.142.85] has joined #debian
14:56-!-johnc [~johnc@66.93.53.90] has quit [Quit: leaving]
14:56-!-salvin [~salvin@host243-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:57-!-mkad [~mkad___@5ED2AED8.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:58-!-dmz [~dmz@67.216.138.246.pool.hargray.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
14:58-!-janos_ [~janos@82.117.199.26] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
14:58-!-ryland [~ryland@ip-178-201-56-134.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
14:58-!-floe [~flo@e179013095.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
15:00-!-ompaul [~ompaul@109.255.108.128] has joined #debian
15:00-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:03-!-nidd [~nidd@myxomop.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:03-!-XayOn [~XayOn@85.251.10.133.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:03-!-XayOn [~XayOn@85.251.10.133.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
15:04-!-floe__ [~flo@f052097082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:05-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
15:06-!-zoune [~zoune@250.138-227-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #debian
15:09-!-amoe_ is now known as amoe
15:09-!-zoune [~zoune@250.138-227-89.dsl.completel.net] has quit []
15:11-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:11-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
15:13-!-padey [~padey@cl-86-125-184-21.cablelink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #debian
15:14-!-mmgc84 [~mmgc84@190.106.3.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:16-!-dmz [~dmz@67.216.138.246.pool.hargray.net] has joined #debian
15:17-!-dmz [~dmz@67.216.138.246.pool.hargray.net] has quit []
15:18-!-akulah [~akulah@222.pool85-58-250.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #debian
15:18-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:18-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@128.160.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:18-!-Alverid [~none@190.252.130.79] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 529] by debhelper
15:20-!-jespada [~jespada@host71.186-109-81.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
15:20-!-seespatz [~seespatz@pdbn-4d089f70.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
15:20-!-seespatz [~seespatz@pdbn-4d089f70.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit []
15:21-!-dmz [~dmz@67.216.138.246.pool.hargray.net] has joined #debian
15:21-!-Alverid [~none@190.252.130.79] has joined #debian
15:22-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@128.160.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
15:22-!-mlundblad [~marcus@217.142.147.24] has joined #debian
15:25-!-akulah [~akulah@222.pool85-58-250.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:25-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.3.213] has joined #debian
15:25-!-foolano [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:25-!-nidd [~nidd@myxomop.com] has joined #debian
15:27-!-j [~dffg@dyndsl-080-228-182-148.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #debian
15:28-!-mickey [~mickey@AAmiens-256-1-16-173.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
15:28-!-j is now known as Guest1635
15:28-!-Guest1635 [~dffg@dyndsl-080-228-182-148.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit []
15:28-!-swex_ [~swex@217.197.245.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:29-!-mickey [~mickey@AAmiens-256-1-16-173.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit []
15:29-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
15:30-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has joined #debian
15:30-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-88-217-82-157.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
15:30-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:31-!-helene [~helene@ANantes-756-1-8-205.w90-54.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
15:32-!-Alverid [~none@190.252.130.79] has quit []
15:33-!-nightsh [~nightsh@188.27.206.214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:34-!-lbcadden3 [~larry@97-89-164-245.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #debian
15:34-!-janos_ [~janos@95.180.64.94] has joined #debian
15:34-!-NIN [~NIN@p5DD28691.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: NIN]
15:37-!-cybersphinx_ [~cyber@p5492E983.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
15:37-!-swex_ [~swex@37.75.6.0] has joined #debian
15:38-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.22.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:39-!-safinaskar [~quassel@188.44.56.155] has joined #debian
15:39-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
15:40-!-jackyf [~jackyf@a88-115-98-41.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: KVIrc KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.3, revision: 5988, sources date: 20110830, built on: 2011-11-24 13:15:32 UTC 5988 http://www.kvirc.net/]
15:41-!-Seb1 [~sebastian@p5091D245.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
15:43-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
15:43-!-mentor [~mentor@178.16.14.107] has joined #debian
15:43-!-SaZha [~nYnHJan@88.128.135.253] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:43-!-nYnHJan [~nYnHJan@88.128.135.253] has joined #debian
15:44-!-mentor is now known as Guest1636
15:44-!-dvs [~me@206.248.136.46] has joined #debian
15:44-!-Guest1636 is now known as mentor
15:44-!-cybersphinx [~cyber@pD9F7B66E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:45-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@128.160.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
15:47-!-philippe [~philippe@243.48.112.78.rev.sfr.net] has joined #debian
15:47-!-philippe [~philippe@243.48.112.78.rev.sfr.net] has quit []
15:48-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:50-!-jibel_ [~j-lalleme@89.159.166.251] has joined #debian
15:50-!-freagg [~freak@91.200.114.20] has joined #debian
15:50-!-padey [~padey@cl-86-125-184-21.cablelink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: leaving]
15:51-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.22.205] has joined #debian
15:51-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has joined #debian
15:51-!-retrospe1tacus [~adama@199.247.177.120] has joined #debian
15:52-!-johnc [~djohngo@66.93.53.90] has joined #debian
15:52-!-fugit [~keith@199.2.242.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:53-!-retrospectacus [~adama@199.247.232.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:54-!-jespada [~jespada@host71.186-109-81.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
15:55-!-topkat [~topkat@ip98-166-215-120.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #debian
15:56-!-topkat [~topkat@ip98-166-215-120.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit []
15:56-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:56-!-HERM3S [~HERM3S@74.83.16.41] has joined #debian
15:56-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
15:58-!-lbcadden3 [~larry@97-89-164-245.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:58-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Quit: Offline, follow me on Twitter: @PTKDev]
15:59-!-darthmoul [~darth@190.201.203.103] has joined #debian
15:59-!-darthmoul [~darth@190.201.203.103] has quit []
15:59-!-HERM3S [~HERM3S@74.83.16.41] has quit []
15:59-!-darthmoul [~darth@190.201.203.103] has joined #debian
15:59-!-dvs [~me@206.248.136.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:00-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
16:02-!-zlatan [~zlatan@adsl-165-231-60.teol.net] has joined #debian
16:02-!-zlatan [~zlatan@adsl-165-231-60.teol.net] has left #debian []
16:02<nYnHJan>!606
16:03<nYnHJan>on XC_JOIN example { print "out"; }
16:04<sney_>nYnHJan: can we help you
16:04-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: nb]
16:04-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
16:04<nYnHJan>where am i
16:04<sney_>#debian
16:04<nYnHJan>sney help me!
16:05<sney_>!ask
16:05<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
16:05-!-darthmoul [~darth@190.201.203.103] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:07-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:07-!-nYnHJan [~nYnHJan@88.128.135.253] has left #debian [Leaving]
16:07-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:08-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
16:08-!-surreal7z [~surreal7z@93-142-159-138.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:09-!-skyegg [~olavo@189.125.242.3] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
16:09-!-Nazcafan [~fou@94-194-18-205.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined #debian
16:09-!-_0x377a_ [~surreal7z@93-142-163-90.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
16:11-!-jet [~jet@4-22-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
16:12-!-sreenathab [~sreenatha@14.139.82.6] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
16:14-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.22.205] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:14-!-andybooth [~boothy@85.Red-83-55-116.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:16-!-cybersphinx [~cyber@p4FD67954.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
16:17-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:20-!-jkf [~Greg_od@212-178-15-28.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
16:20-!-TheCritt1C [~critta@christopher-lemay.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #debian
16:20-!-TheCrittaC is now known as Guest1645
16:20-!-TheCritt1C is now known as thecrittac
16:20-!-thecrittac is now known as TheCrittaC
16:23-!-snori [~snori@cpe-24-31-147-137.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
16:23-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
16:23-!-snori [~snori@cpe-24-31-147-137.maine.res.rr.com] has quit []
16:24-!-cybersphinx_ [~cyber@p5492E983.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:27-!-Guest1645 [~critta@christopher-lemay-4.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:29-!-Therion87 [~Therion@108-84-80-15.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
16:29-!-jon_ [~jon@janus-nat-128-240-225-120.ncl.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:30-!-fr33k [~fvb@546BFCBE.cm-12-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:31-!-johfel [~johfel@p5091CCF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
16:34-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:34-!-degli [~degli@host168-62-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:35-!-freagg [~freak@91.200.114.20] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
16:35-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has joined #debian
16:36-!-alleyoopster [~alleyoops@41-135-71-244.dsl.mweb.co.za] has quit []
16:36-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:37-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
16:37-!-jesusprubio [~ffdsafs@128.160.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
16:37-!-clyde [~clyde@75-167-93-244.desm.qwest.net] has joined #debian
16:37-!-mbw290 [~matt@ool-182ebd46.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
16:37<mbw290>I am trying to open firefox and get the following error firefox: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
16:38-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:38<jordanm>use iceweasel or install the lib
16:38-!-clyde [~clyde@75-167-93-244.desm.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:38<mbw290>jordanm:I tried installing the lib and got nothing
16:38-!-degli [~degli@host168-62-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
16:38<jordanm>,files libstdc++.so.6
16:38<jordanm>,file libstdc++.so.6
16:38<judd>Search for libstdc++.so.6 in squeeze/i386: lib64stdc++6: usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6; libstdc++6: usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6; lib64stdc++6-4.3-dbg: usr/lib64/debug/libstdc++.so.6; libstdc++6-4.4-dbg: usr/lib/debug/libstdc++.so.6; libstdc++6-4.3-dbg: usr/lib/debug/libstdc++.so.6; lib64stdc++6-4.4-dbg: usr/lib64/debug/libstdc++.so.6
16:39-!-swvist [~swvist@117.204.94.234] has joined #debian
16:39-!-swvist [~swvist@117.204.94.234] has left #debian []
16:39<mbw290>I installed those and got nothing
16:39-!-mkl [~alvaro@79.109.2.96.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
16:40-!-clopez [~clopez@fanzine.igalia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:40-!-jespada [~jespada@host71.186-109-81.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
16:41-!-felgru_ [~felgru@xdsl-78-35-202-3.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
16:41<mbw290>I am running amd64
16:41<mbw290>does that help?
16:41<mbw290>judd:Does running amd64 change anything?
16:42-!-degli [~degli@host168-62-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
16:42-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:75c5:e7e8:5c70:c2d0] has joined #debian
16:42-!-q66 [~q66@213.191.105.214] has quit [Quit: Leaving..]
16:43-!-tensorpudding_ [~michael@99.148.194.217] has joined #debian
16:44-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:75c5:e7e8:5c70:c2d0] has quit []
16:44-!-degli [~degli@host168-62-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
16:45-!-fike [~fike@C8ECDC6A.dynamic.shd.tesa.net.br] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
16:45-!-cezar [~cezar@92.86.142.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:45-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:45-!-degli [~degli@host168-62-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
16:46-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:75c5:e7e8:5c70:c2d0] has joined #debian
16:46-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
16:47-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:75c5:e7e8:5c70:c2d0] has quit []
16:47-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.201.203.103] has joined #debian
16:47-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:75c5:e7e8:5c70:c2d0] has joined #debian
16:48-!-felgru [~felgru@xdsl-78-35-220-228.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:50-!-tensorpudding__ [~michael@99.32.56.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:50-!-johnc [~djohngo@66.93.53.90] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:50-!-pierre [~pierre@c80-217-236-91.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #debian
16:51-!-pierre is now known as Guest1648
16:51-!-aPpYe [~aPpYe@71-93-104-120.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #debian
16:52-!-lduros [~lduros@dhcp0641.nic.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has left #debian []
16:53-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.201.203.103] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:53<sney_>mbw290: judd is a bot, he won't answer questions
16:53-!-m42 [~m42@bl20-148-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #debian
16:54<sney_>if you want a newer version of firefox/iceweasel than squeeze, follow the directions at http://mozilla.debian.net/
16:54-!-jibel_ [~j-lalleme@89.159.166.251] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
16:54<sney_>it will just work and you don't need to mess around with missing libs or anything
16:56-!-jespada [~jespada@host71.186-109-81.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
16:57-!-carnil__ [~carnil@elende.valinor.li] has joined #debian
16:57-!-kminor [~kminor@64-151-31-192.static.everestkc.net] has joined #debian
16:57-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DE7AB4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
16:58<kminor>Hey guys, running debian lenny, the "whois" command wont work, it times out
16:58<kminor>port 43 is open, how do i fix it so the "whois" command works?
16:59-!-Eno [~Eno@66.220.0.80] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
16:59<sney_>kminor: any chance that it's blocked by your isp?
16:59-!-carnil [~carnil@elende.valinor.li] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:59<scientes>kminor, its port 53, not 43
16:59<kminor>sney_: no man it's not, it tries to reach whois.crsnet.net
16:59<scientes>oh wait whois, sry
17:00<kminor>scientes: I have ports 21-3306 open
17:00<scientes>kminor, alot of registers dont have whois servers, only http/https whois servers
17:00<kminor>scientes: how do i get my command prompt whois to work buddy?
17:00<scientes>kminor, you dont
17:01<scientes>except on the registers that enable it, like .com/.net/.org
17:01<kminor>scientes: you've got to be joking, no way to fix it?
17:01-!-aPpYe [~aPpYe@71-93-104-120.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:01<scientes>kminor, the whois command uses the whois protocol, which is only implamented by certain registers
17:01<kminor>scientes: why did it just stop working a month or two or so ago do u know?
17:01<scientes>well what TLD is it kminor ?
17:01<scientes>kminor, ask them
17:02<sney_>google.com responds to the whois command so you can use that to test basic functionality
17:02-!-Quintasan_ [~quassel@p5DE7AB4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:02<scientes>yeah all the .com/.net/.org works
17:02<kminor>there was a bug in whois 4.7.30 i found here, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=408096
17:02<scientes>the verisign TLDs work
17:02<kminor>but debian lenny only offers up to 4.7.30 whois
17:02<kminor>i'm going to shell to another FreeBSD box and see if it works
17:03<scientes>kminor, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/version.cgi?width=;info=1;absolute=0;fixed=whois%2F4.7.31;height=;found=whois%2F4.7.5;package=whois;format=png;collapse=1;ignore_boring=0
17:03<sney_>judd: versions whois
17:03<judd>Package: whois on i386 -- lenny: 4.7.30; squeeze: 5.0.10; sid: 5.0.15; wheezy: 5.0.15
17:03<kminor>scientes: i'll check it out one sek
17:03-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:03<scientes>hmm, the "boring" filter usually listes lienny, sarge, etch, etc
17:04<kminor>judd says lenny uses 4.7.30
17:04<scientes>well that could be it, whois on the com TLD should work as i said
17:04<scientes>but for other TLD's, like country ones, all bets off
17:05<kminor>i confirmed it in synaptic highest version is 4.7.30, but i also noticed some security.debian.org repo's cant connect
17:05-!-aPpYe [~aPpYe@71-93-104-120.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #debian
17:05-!-cybersphinx_ [~cyber@p5492FE3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
17:05-!-floe_ [~flo@e179010246.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
17:06-!-antonio_ [~antonio@host78-118-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:06<scientes>kminor, lenny is end of lifed
17:06<kminor>sney_: any idea how i can go about fixing the whois command manually?
17:07<scientes>kminor, and all security for lenny has been merged into the archive
17:07<scientes>kminor, install from squeeze
17:07-!-kriller [~kriller@83.91.92.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:07-!-floppy [~floppy@85.122.145.68] has joined #debian
17:08-!-floppy [~floppy@85.122.145.68] has left #debian []
17:08<kminor>scientes: this debian lenny server is a production server & is very important, it can't go down, and squeeze has no way to keep kde 3.5, i dont want to upgrade this one to squeeze until my HP Proliant is ready to go
17:08-!-qt-x [~qt-x@188.24.115.177] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:08<scientes>kminor, no, just the whois package
17:08<scientes>kminor, also if you are running samba on the server, you should turn it off permanently
17:08<scientes>cause there is a really nasty remote root exploit in samba, that wont get fixed in lenny
17:09<kminor>scientes: I'm not, but why? is there an exploit or vulnerability with samba?
17:09<kminor>scientes: gotcha, thanks thats good to know
17:09<scientes>https://lwn.net/Articles/491516/
17:09-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:09-!-floe [~flo@e179013095.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:09<scientes>hasnt been fixed in debian yet, the patch is 1.4mb, aint trivial to backport
17:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 523] by debhelper
17:10-!-nicholi [~nicholi@rrcs-76-79-196-34.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving]
17:10-!-oiig_ [oiig_@112.161.134.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:11-!-ompaul [~ompaul@109.255.108.128] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:11-!-helene [~helene@ANantes-756-1-8-205.w90-54.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
17:11<kminor>scientes : Is there a way I can manually change the whois command to use another whois server other than whois.crsnic.net
17:11<scientes>man whois
17:12<scientes>i am sure you can, but you might need dnsmasq
17:12-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
17:12-!-aPpYe [~aPpYe@71-93-104-120.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:13-!-cybersphinx [~cyber@p4FD67954.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:13-!-zoune [~zoune@250.138-227-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #debian
17:14<kminor>scientes : yeah was thinking about just editing the whois command itself, just dont like doing things i dont normally do on this production server
17:14<kminor>I wish there was some way to use KDE 3.5 in Debian Squeeze
17:14-!-mokmeister [~quassel@109.78.2.228] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:14-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.22.205] has joined #debian
17:14-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has joined #debian
17:14<scientes>there is, you could install lenny packages on squeeze
17:14<scientes>just for kde
17:15<scientes>would probably work
17:15<kminor>scientes: yeah that's an idea
17:15<sney_>that's kind of a bad idea
17:15<kminor>scientes: I am eventually going to upgrade to squeeze, this server is just my last production server i have on a fast line for my priority clients
17:16<sney_>there were some big changes from lenny to squeeze, mixing them willy nilly is likely to create problems
17:16<scientes>i mean, linux still has support for libc5 if you turn off some preemptive kernel security feature
17:16-!-swvist [~swvist@117.204.94.234] has joined #debian
17:16-!-swvist [~swvist@117.204.94.234] has left #debian []
17:16<sney_>many packages can be backported from squeeze to lenny, but it's not recommended to mix the binaries
17:16<scientes>yes, sney speaks truth,
17:16<scientes>but if you stick to the right libraries it should work
17:17-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8-dev]
17:17<kminor>sney_: I'll probably end up just using kde4, i just don't want to upgrade to squeeze until i have the money for the 16 2.5in Hard Drives, & 64-gigs of RAM, & 2nd 64bit processor in my HP Proliant
17:17<sney_>kminor: just as long as you know that scientes is not an official representative of debian and you would be doing this at your own risk. I wouldn't do it on a production server.
17:18<kminor>sney_ : yeah I'm not risking messing anything up on this server till the new ones ready. That's why i haven't upgraded to squeeze yet
17:18-!-clopez [~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
17:19-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-190.telpol.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:19<kminor>scientes : when lenny came out i upgraded to etch the same day, but i had backup servers then, now i just have this baby until i get the proliant filled, then I'll probably just read about how to write backports for debian & stuff
17:19-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has joined #debian
17:19-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
17:20-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.72.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:20<kminor>what is it called when you want a lenny file on squeeze, kind of how backport means a Sid, or testing file on stable?
17:21<sney_>I don't know if there is a term for that. a frontport? lol
17:21-!-zoune is now known as QuizBe
17:21-!-QuizBe is now known as QuizzBe
17:21<kminor>sney_: hehe makes since :) ..btw are you an official debian rep?
17:22<sney_>nope!
17:22<kminor>I wonder who here is
17:22-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
17:22<sney_>there are a couple developers in here but most of us are just experienced users volunteering our expertise
17:22-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
17:22<Nik05>hey guys, with what programs can i scan using a scanner? :P
17:22<Nik05>xsane? but that one is saying i dont have a scanner connected
17:22<kminor>Nik05: you mean an application scanner? or a scanner scanner for network stuff?
17:23-!-pfrost [~pfrost@207.8.235.242] has quit [Quit: leaving]
17:23<kminor>Nik05: oh do u m ean a radio scanner?
17:23<Nik05>no like you know in history people wrote things on paper
17:23<Nik05>and i want to convert the analog paper in digital
17:23<Nik05>to digital*
17:23-!-zoune [~zoune@250.138-227-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #debian
17:23-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.22.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:24<Nik05>:)
17:24<sney_>there are a lot of programs that talk to scanners with sane/libsane, xsane is one and gimp does too, etc
17:25<kminor>ax-25apps are ham radio things that i think are in the debian repo
17:25<sney_>but if xsane isn't detecting your scanner you may have a driver or hardware issue
17:25<kminor>ooooh that type of scanner hahahhaha
17:25-!-jgarvey [~jgarvey@cpe-174-097-248-211.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:25<kminor>yeah use gimp
17:25<kminor>i love that program
17:26-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:26<zoune>you may try ocr package
17:26<Nik05>where in gimp can i find the scanner?
17:26-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
17:26<zoune>if you meant optical character recognition
17:26<kminor>there are so many cool web development & image tools in debian repo's
17:26-!-leonardo_ [~leonardo@ppp-106-124.25-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
17:27<QuizzBe>Dans 5 secondes, débutera une série illimitée de questions. !stop pour m'arreter.
17:27<Nik05>no zoune just scanning
17:27-!-darthmoul [~escondido@201.248.233.152] has joined #debian
17:27-!-leonardo_ [~leonardo@ppp-106-124.25-151.libero.it] has quit []
17:27<sney_>Nik05: it's in the file menu I think, under "new"maybe? there'll be a submenu with acquire from scanner
17:27-!-darthmoul [~escondido@201.248.233.152] has quit []
17:27<zoune>Un petit indice : c..l..i.
17:28<Nik05>found it :) File > Create > Xsane
17:28<Nik05>but well sane doesnt work, damN :P
17:28<Nik05>wait maybe my scanner is not online :D
17:28<zoune>Question : Principale ville de Polynésie française. Port de l'île de Tahiti.
17:28<kminor>Nik05: try installing gimp and all it's dependencies & try to scan something
17:28<zoune>Un petit indice : .....te
17:29<sney_>zoune: english only please
17:29-!-zoune [~zoune@250.138-227-89.dsl.completel.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
17:29-!-QuizzBe [~zoune@250.138-227-89.dsl.completel.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
17:29<Nik05>Damn still not working :(
17:29<sney_>how is the scanner connected? usb?
17:29<Nik05>yes
17:29-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
17:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 515] by debhelper
17:30<Nik05>its a Brother scanner, i already installed all brother drivers
17:30-!-arjun [~arjun@14.139.228.210] has joined #debian
17:30<Nik05>installed their deb packages
17:30<sney_>Nik05: if you disconnect it, then reconnect it and look in dmesg, do you see any relevant messages? you can pastebin them if you like
17:30-!-rage [~rage@hel59-4-88-160-125-53.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
17:30<kminor>Does ANYBODY here know how to fix "WHOIS" in debian lenny?
17:31<Nik05>sney, can i tail -f dmesg?
17:31<kminor>hey, how do you tell whois to use a specific whois server?
17:31<sney_>kminor: is the issue caused by that bug you linked? I didn't look at it, sorry
17:31<sney_>Nik05: yeah, dmesg |tail -f should work
17:32<Nik05>i just inplugged usb cable and nothign happens
17:32<Busy>kminor: `whois -h <host> -p <port>` should do it.
17:32-!-Guest1648 [~pierre@c80-217-236-91.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/]
17:32<Nik05>sney, this is what brother is sayign about sane http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html#d6
17:33<scientes>Nik05, tail -f /var/log/kern.log
17:33<Nik05>I already did that, but not working :(
17:33<kminor>Busy: like 'whois -h cc.fsu.edu -p 53 somesite.com ?
17:33<Busy>Yes.
17:33<Nik05>ah kern.log thanks scientes :)
17:33-!-_0x377a_ [~surreal7z@93-142-163-90.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:33<scientes>Nik05, tail doesn't work with dmesg
17:33<scientes>yeah
17:33<kminor>wait whois is port 43 not 53
17:33<scientes>kminor, correct
17:33<kminor>Busy: ok im going to go try it thanks
17:33<Busy>np
17:33-!-supaman [~ojs@157-157-13-195.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:33<kminor>someone here said 53 earlier, i though tthat was a mail thing or something
17:34-!-mase [~mase@kemp-5d8605e8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:34-!-jet [~jet@4-22-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:34<scientes>kminor, no, i hadn't read up, it was me
17:34-!-arjun [~arjun@14.139.228.210] has quit []
17:34<scientes>thought u were talkig about dns
17:34<scientes>which is 53
17:34-!-kesu [~arjun@14.139.228.210] has joined #debian
17:35<kminor>Busy: whois still says timeout on debian lenny, darn
17:36<Nik05>sney, scientes here it is http://paste.debian.net/162924/
17:36<kminor>scientes : it's okay man, still can't get whois to work & can't find any suggestions for a solution
17:36<Nik05>oh right im on sid... :P
17:37-!-jesusprubio [~ffdsafs@128.160.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
17:37<kminor>I wonder if i should try downloading the newest source whois tarball & running it in a directory to see if it works
17:37<scientes>kminor, sounds like a good idea
17:37<Nik05>line 14 is strange...
17:37<scientes>its largely a simple, self-contained program
17:38<scientes>Nik05, not neccicarily
17:38<Nik05>oh
17:38<scientes>there is alot of funky stuff like that in the kernel
17:39-!-jet [~jet@4-22-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
17:39<Busy>kminor: Looking up 'cc.fsu.edu' shows no records for me.
17:39<Busy>Are you sure that's the correct address?
17:40-!-jet [~jet@4-22-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit []
17:40<kminor>Busy: I got that one off of a list, I'll try another
17:41-!-stelian [~stelian@host170-168-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
17:41<kminor>Busy: I was looking here, this list may not be good who knows http://www.domaininformation.de/whoisserver_list.html
17:41-!-stelian [~stelian@host170-168-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:41-!-hele [~hele@cs181222070.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:42<kminor>the whois "bug" listed in lenny for 4.7.30 says whois won't connect/lookup IPv4 addressed machines just v6 which is no minor bug
17:43-!-mbw290 [~matt@ool-182ebd46.dyn.optonline.net] has left #debian []
17:43<kminor>i thought that the debian people would have fixed it in lenny & squeeze
17:43-!-Seb1 [~sebastian@p5091D245.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:43<kminor>does anybody have squeeze that can tell me if their "whois" command works?
17:43<sney_>mine works
17:43<Nik05>ok brb reboot hopefully working :)
17:43-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:44<sney_>lenny is no longer supported as of february
17:44-!-s_i_m [~s_i_m@a89-152-102-66.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian
17:44-!-plugwash [~plugwash@cpc7-stkp7-2-0-cust208.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
17:44<sney_>it is weird that that never made it into a security patch
17:44<kminor>sney_: but they still patch it, heck i know old HP servers still running sarge
17:44<sney_>no, there are no new patches for lenny
17:44<kminor>sney_: yeah i know
17:45<kminor>sney_: where does it say that?
17:45<sney_>at least not from Debian. some shops still using the old releases may do their own patches
17:45<s_i_m>hi everyone
17:45<Busy>Hi, s_i_m.
17:45-!-flower [~d@178-25-8-191-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:45<sney_>!lenny
17:45<dpkg>Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209
17:45<sney_>kminor ^ "security support ended on..."
17:45<kminor>sney_: your kidding really? i could have sworn i used "apt-get upgrade" after february and got something
17:46-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:75c5:e7e8:5c70:c2d0] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:46<s_i_m>well, support for lenny is discontinued
17:46<sney_>if you have any 3rd party repos for things like php etc, you might have gotten an update from there, but official support is done
17:46<s_i_m>i have one machine still runnig it though
17:46<plugwash>AIUI there was a window of time between when new security updates stopped and when the remaining updates (security and otherwise) were folded into a final point release
17:47<plugwash>so that may have been what you saw
17:47<sney_>kminor: to upgrade whois, you could self backport it from squeeze, that should be plenty easy if you don't mind having a toolchain on your production server
17:47-!-[machine] [~timb@paris1.fr.nth-dimension.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:48-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has joined #debian
17:48-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:49-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
17:49<kminor>sney_: wow i can't believe lenny security updates aren't going to be maintained anymore, im glad you made me wise to that fact
17:49<daemonkeeper>Subscribe to debian-announce and debian-security-announce.
17:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 505] by debhelper
17:50<sney_>they'll still be hosted at archive.debian.org for the forseeable future, and you'll still be able to install stuff, but there's nothing new yeah. good thing you were already planning on upgrading.
17:50<s_i_m>kminor, it is normal practice, it is impossible to support old releases forever.
17:50<kminor>sney_: yeah, that's a good idea, i've got a huge web development job & I'm running ISPConfig 2 panel so I'd have to make sure everything is smooth with that before dist-upgrading
17:51<kminor>s_i_m: yeah I suppose so, it's just bad timing for me because im using this german open source control panel that's an older version, i want to move everyone to the new control panel version which is a new re-write, & im afraid ill mess something up & let down all 80 or so of my customers
17:51<sney_>full backups and scheduled downtime especially since the lenny-squeeze upgrade resulted in a fair bit of breakage. though that was only from people who didn't read the instructions.
17:52<plugwash>what is the easiest way to take a sources file and get a list of source packages and the latest version of each from it?
17:52-!-alvaro_ [~alvaro@79.109.2.96.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
17:52-!-alvaro_ [~alvaro@79.109.2.96.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit []
17:53<s_i_m>kminor, you can put the specific packages you do not want to upgrade on hold in aptitude or use pinning to prevent upgrading them.
17:53<sney_>probably a for loop involving awk and grep somehow
17:53<Nik05>damn still not working, no idea why
17:53<sney_>s_i_m: you can, but I wouldn't recommend it during a dist-upgrade
17:53<kminor>sney_ : yeah this new HP Proliant is like nothing i've never had, i have to buy 2.5in SAS or SATA drives instead of 3.5in, a 25 dollar tray for each one to slide into place, its just taking a little more money than i thought to fill up
17:53-!-rivon [~rivon@glados.sh.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:54-!-felgru_ [~felgru@xdsl-78-35-202-3.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:54<sney_>did HP stop selling disks already in their spuds?
17:54<sney_>(spud = tray)
17:54<s_i_m>sney, that is true but one is not forced to do a dist-upgrade anyway
17:54<kminor>s_i_m: I might consider doing that, so after pinning them just do an "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
17:54-!-lazer [~lazer@85.220.201.45] has joined #debian
17:54<s_i_m>Debian is quite flexible
17:55-!-DimitryKakadu [~DimitryKa@217.71.235.234] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:55<sney_>kminor: I don't thinks s_i_m knows what we were talking about; pinning things while upgrading from one release to the next is more likely to break everything
17:55<sney_>or just make apt so confused that it gives up
17:55<Nik05>does someone know what you need to do when you edit /lib/udeb/rules.d/60-libsane.rules ?
17:55<s_i_m>kminor, try just "upgrade" first
17:55<s_i_m>it is more consevative
17:55<Nik05>and why is it in that strange place and not in /etc?
17:55<sney_>s_i_m: please read the scrollback or get details before giving advice.
17:56<s_i_m>sney_, i came in a few minutes ago
17:56<kminor>sney_ you think? i've never pinned anything during a dist-upgrade because i thought that it might cause dependancy conflicts while installing new versions of other softwares that rely on the same libraries
17:56<s_i_m>so, what is the problem?
17:56<sney_>kminor: that's exactly what it would do.
17:56<kminor>s_i_m: i'll read up on that, thanks for the suggestion
17:57<kminor>so do you think even though lenny's security updates are no more, i wonder if they'll still fix stuff that's broken on a release that's 1 down from stable
17:57<s_i_m>sney_, kminor, you cannot make an omelet without breaking the eggs, or how do they say it in English =)
17:58<s_i_m>(not my native language)
17:58-!-kaziem [~devnull@201.201.78.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
17:58-!-jet [~jet@4-22-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
17:59<daemonkeeper>Why not? These days eggs are sold in barrels, cleanly divided by egg yolk and egg white.
17:59<daemonkeeper>Too, I mean.
17:59-!-kesu [~arjun@14.139.228.210] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:01<s_i_m>daemonkeeper, that in reality means that someone already took the courage to break the eggs
18:02<kminor>whois -h whois.ripe.net HELP
18:02<kminor>whoops
18:02<daemonkeeper>s_i_m: Of course. :p
18:03-!-superkulak [~nicola@net-2-38-222-141.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:04<kminor>i can't find the command to whois query by domain name on that whois.ripe.net
18:05<kminor>oh nevermind
18:06-!-felix__ [~felix@dslb-092-075-217-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
18:06-!-towo` [~torsten_w@178-24-37-129-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: so, nu isser wech]
18:06-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:07-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-4055.sa.bih.net.ba] has joined #debian
18:07-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:07-!-lazer [~lazer@85.220.201.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:07-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
18:08-!-cooper [~mitchell@c-50-129-95-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #debian
18:08-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has joined #debian
18:08<s_i_m>btw, kminor, to on the safe side you may clone your lenny install in a virtual machine and experiment there first
18:09<s_i_m>to be on the safe side*
18:10-!-jack [~jack@95.176.11.223] has joined #debian
18:10-!-rarity [~rarity@pool-72-72-198-22.altnpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #debian
18:10-!-rarity [~rarity@pool-72-72-198-22.altnpa.east.verizon.net] has left #debian []
18:11-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:13-!-__iron [~tobias@ip-141-31-182-26.nat.selfnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:14<kminor>s_i_m: what do u use to clone?
18:14-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:14-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
18:14<kminor>i've looked at a few things that do that but never knew which one to use
18:14<s_i_m>depends on which virtualization solution you use
18:15<kminor>s_i_m: but that's probably something I'd like to do anyways, i tried some rsync to some other program backup and it sucked
18:15-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:15<s_i_m>and for any solution there is the old good method of restoring from a backup
18:15<kminor>s_i_m: I'd like to clone my system as in make it an ISO image that would install itself with a few DVD's that'd be cool
18:16<kminor>s_i_m: what would you do to make a vmware image of your system?
18:16<s_i_m>i do not use vmware
18:16<kminor>s_i_m: and after i do that there's no way i could make a virtual image back to a base system image to install on a server
18:17<kminor>s_i_m: what do you use like virtualbox or xen?
18:17-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
18:17-!-jack [~jack@95.176.11.223] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
18:18<kminor>well the whois.tar.gz worked from source, someone tell one of the "official debian representatives" that whois is broken in lenny & to please fix it
18:18<s_i_m>virtualbox at home, xen is used at work, but I am not an expert in xen anyway
18:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 498] by debhelper
18:20<kminor>Hey guys, i got the debian default "whois" to work with whois -h whois.server.com domainnametolookup.com ,so is there anyway to change the default whois server? lol guess it's the least of my worries now if they're not going to fix anything in lenny that's broken
18:21<kminor>Welp, good luck all
18:21-!-kminor [~kminor@64-151-31-192.static.everestkc.net] has quit [Quit: kminor has no reason]
18:25-!-thomas [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:26-!-nardey [~nardey@189.12.160.254] has joined #debian
18:26-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DE7AB4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:26-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:26-!-mlundblad [~marcus@217.142.147.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:26-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
18:26-!-Quintasan [~quassel@93.231.189.232] has joined #debian
18:27-!-nardey [~nardey@189.12.160.254] has quit []
18:27-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
18:29-!-flor [~florian@101-181.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #debian
18:30<s_i_m>btw, an offtopic question: what is the maximum allowed CPU temperature for Core i5 in a long run?
18:30-!-oiig_ [~eohnik@112.161.134.227] has joined #debian
18:30-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has joined #debian
18:30<s_i_m>without it being damaged?
18:31-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@83.119.181.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:31-!-flor_ [~florian@101-181.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:33<mkl>i don't have the technical info, but more than 80ºC cannot be good for the CPU
18:34<mkl>it's my mental limit to worry me xD
18:34-!-toto42 [~toto@p5B393DA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
18:36-!-Salamander [~Salamande@host19.190-136-238.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
18:37<s_i_m>well, your limit is rather high =) I still remember Ge transistors ;)
18:38-!-Quintasan [~quassel@93.231.189.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:38-!-Candlehawk [~IceChat7@ool-18ba38dd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
18:38-!-remikp [~remikp@89-69-142-130.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: Wychodzi]
18:39<mkl>my laptop is good to get some fried eggs with taste to i5 xD
18:40<Candlehawk>Hello, I have some issues with connecting to wifi. I installed wireless tools, but it's not even showing up anywhere. It is a broadcom bcm4313.
18:40-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DC16DD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
18:40<Salamander>msg dpkg chrome
18:41<s_i_m>Candlehawk, do you have the frameware installed?
18:41<Salamander>ummm, yes, now everybody knows that im trying to install chrome =P
18:41-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:42<s_i_m>firmware* =)
18:42<Candlehawk>s_i_m, I believe not, how would I install the firmware on it? Is it in the repos?
18:42<Candlehawk>Unless wirless-tools would do that.
18:42<Candlehawk>Like, the act of installing it.
18:42<s_i_m>Candlehawk, apt-get install b43-fwcutter
18:43-!-floe__ [~flo@f052100045.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
18:43-!-Salamander [~Salamande@host19.190-136-238.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:44<Candlehawk>righto, um. THe only problem now is that I have only one ethernet cable to my room, so can you give me some more complete instructions so I can do everything and not go back and forth with the internet?
18:45<sney_>pretty much just add non-free and contrib to your sources.list if they aren't already, then install the package s_i_m told you about, then configure your interface
18:45-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has left #debian []
18:45<Candlehawk>I see. how do I do the first two of that list?
18:46<sney_>sources.list is a text file located in /etc/apt
18:46-!-youlysses [~youlysses@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #debian
18:46-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has left #debian []
18:46-!-manel [~EMROG@189.157.162.171] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:46<Candlehawk>and what do I add to it?
18:46<sney_>edit it as root - there'll be a line like "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ main" and you'll want to add "contrib non-free" to the end of that line
18:47<Candlehawk>I see.
18:47-!-floe_ [~flo@e179010246.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:47<Candlehawk>So not a seporate URL? Just adding the contrib non-free at the end?
18:47<sney_>correct
18:47<s_i_m>after that do an apt-get update
18:48<Candlehawk>and what do I do to configure the interface? Is there a gui or do I have to edit whatsitcalled?
18:48<s_i_m>i use wpa_supplicant
18:49-!-amakusa [~jaymeza@190.53.125.230] has joined #debian
18:49-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DC16DD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:49-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DC16D05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
18:49<s_i_m>but that is not for beginners
18:49<sney_>a standard debian install with the "desktop environment" task selected will have network-manager, which has gui applets that normally notify you about networks when you log in
18:49<sney_>so if you installed the desktop environment, it should Just Work once the hardware is up and running
18:50-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has joined #debian
18:50<s_i_m>"just works, but cross your fingers" (c)
18:51<Candlehawk>mk. thanks
18:51-!-Infra_HDC [~askinfra@skazo4nik.comex.ru] has quit [Quit: I Quit]
18:51<Candlehawk>however, I don't see a network manager anywhere in any of the options.
18:52<s_i_m>Candlehawk, if you have gnome installed that should be already there
18:53-!-Nazcafan [~fou@94-194-18-205.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:53<Candlehawk>s_i_m, I'll tell you what I did on install: I inserted an ethernet cable so internet will work fine. I had in a debian stable cd, I installed with gnome selected. I see no network manager. Should I just re install perhaps?
18:53<s_i_m>no, no reinstall
18:54-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:54<s_i_m>Candlehawk, if you have gnome installed that should be already there
18:54<s_i_m>oops
18:54<s_i_m>hey, do we have someone with gnome here?
18:54<s_i_m>pressed wrong button
18:54-!-canaima [~canaima@186.89.133.140] has joined #debian
18:54-!-ao2 [~u@cl-35.trn-01.it.sixxs.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:55<Candlehawk>I even did an aptitude update and upgrade.
18:55<canaima>hola
18:55-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
18:56<s_i_m>Candlehawk, you may try installing network-manager-gnome
18:56<Candlehawk>s_i_m, tried that. That I did try.
18:56-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-98-117-207-54.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:57-!-m42 [~m42@bl20-148-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:57<daemonkeeper>Or alternatively wicd. Maybe not today, though.
18:57<s_i_m>then someone with gnome should speak up
18:57<Candlehawk>It said that wicd didn't exist.
18:57<s_i_m>i do not have it
18:57<Candlehawk>I already looked at the debian wifi page.
18:57<Candlehawk>I did an aptitude install wicd.
18:59<s_i_m>Candlehawk, well, you should have either NM or wicd, but not both together
18:59<daemonkeeper>... and not today :>
18:59<Candlehawk>I shee.
19:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 491] by debhelper
19:01-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
19:01-!-freak [~freak@ppp-188-174-73-68.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
19:01-!-freak [~freak@ppp-188-174-73-68.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit []
19:02-!-kuhkatz [~kuhkatz@137-53-142-46.pool.kielnet.net] has joined #debian
19:03-!-canaima [~canaima@186.89.133.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:05-!-mkl [~alvaro@79.109.2.96.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:05-!-Therion87 [~Therion@108-84-80-15.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:05<heikkila>Candlehawk, the network manager should have an icon in the top panel, if you haven't modified it, otherwise right click a panel and add a notification area
19:06-!-petemc [~pete@81.144.188.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:06-!-petemc [~pete@81.144.188.143] has joined #debian
19:07-!-el_erno [~el_erno@201.141.30.94] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:07-!-y2kcorvette [~y2kcorvet@50.9.75.138] has joined #debian
19:08-!-martin_ [~martin@f049139069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
19:08-!-mrorganic4me [~mrorganic@c-98-246-125-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #debian
19:09<mrorganic4me>im running ubuntu 11.10 with virtual box and that runs windows 7 im trying to get a folder from the windows 7 virtual box to the ubuntu drive does anyone have any ideas?
19:10<Candlehawk>When I did that I used dropbox/Ubuntu One.
19:11-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f049139069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:14<plugwash>assuming you have guest additions installed you should be able to create a "shared folder" on the host and access it from the guest
19:14-!-kimmi [~natalia@host19.190-136-238.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
19:15-!-_ramo1 [~ramo@p5DDB5040.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:15<kimmi>what would be the command line command to set google-chrome as my default browser in xfce?????
19:15-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:19<sney_>mrorganic4me: ask in #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net please
19:20-!-romain [~romain@AMarseille-551-1-17-59.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
19:20-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-98-117-207-54.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
19:20<sney_>kimmi: update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome, I think. see update-alternatives --help
19:20-!-romain [~romain@AMarseille-551-1-17-59.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit []
19:20<kimmi>sney, thanx
19:22<mrorganic4me>i havent been able to figure out the guest thing yet )
19:22<mrorganic4me>it wants a iso?
19:22<sney_>!ubuntuirc mrorganic4me
19:22<dpkg>mrorganic4me: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
19:22-!-zlynx [~Lynx@15.211.153.75] has joined #debian
19:23<mrorganic4me>i put the desktop and it shows on bottom right that i did in virtual box but i dont know were its at in windows virtual box
19:23<sney_>mrorganic4me: please pay attention, ubuntu is not supported here, you have been told where to go to get help
19:24-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.123.216.170] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:24<mrorganic4me>which os i run means notthing im trying to resolve a virtualbox issue?
19:24<sney_>well then you shouldn't mind going to the ubuntu channel
19:25<mrorganic4me>!ubuntuirc
19:25<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
19:26-!-mrorganic4me [~mrorganic@c-98-246-125-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:27-!-floe__ [~flo@f052100045.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
19:27-!-kimmi [~natalia@host19.190-136-238.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
19:27-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
19:28-!-kiwnix [~egarcia@82.158.154.223.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
19:28-!-movl [~arares@89.47.83.116] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:29-!-ribe [~ribe@c-98-254-100-215.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #debian
19:29-!-s_i_m [~s_i_m@a89-152-102-66.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: bye.]
19:31-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:32-!-martini [~martini@cpc19-swin14-2-0-cust123.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
19:32-!-movl [~arares@89.47.83.116] has joined #debian
19:33-!-user [~user@74-128-192-119.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #debian
19:33-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:33-!-user is now known as Guest1656
19:34-!-johfel [~johfel@p5091CCF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:35-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f049139069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
19:35-!-martini [~martini@cpc19-swin14-2-0-cust123.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit []
19:35-!-martin_ [~martin@f049139069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:36-!-Guest1656 [~user@74-128-192-119.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:36-!-amakusa [~jaymeza@190.53.125.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:36-!-skiold [~adrian@213.27.225.221] has joined #debian
19:37-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:37-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
19:37-!-toto42 [~toto@p5B393DA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:38-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
19:38-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
19:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 484] by debhelper
19:40-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:42-!-andres is now known as zz_andres
19:42-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
19:42-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:43-!-darthmoul [~escondido@200.93.61.72] has joined #debian
19:43-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.74.99] has joined #debian
19:43-!-darthmoul [~escondido@200.93.61.72] has quit []
19:44-!-Therion87 [~Therion@108-84-80-15.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
19:45-!-spyvspy [~spyvspy@71-85-232-80.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #debian
19:45-!-spyvspy [~spyvspy@71-85-232-80.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit []
19:45-!-ring1 [~ring0@dslb-188-097-002-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
19:47-!-yO [~ubuntu@212.39.125.86] has joined #debian
19:47-!-pierre [~pierre@c80-217-236-91.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #debian
19:47-!-yO [~ubuntu@212.39.125.86] has quit []
19:48-!-pierre is now known as Guest1658
19:48-!-lionel [~lionel@ip-52.net-81-220-93.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:48-!-lionel [~lionel@ip-52.net-81-220-93.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
19:51<youlysses>Does using "dd" only work on Debian based systems, when you want to make a bootable usb?
19:51<sney_>dd is the same across most modern *nix platforms
19:51<sney_>the difference is in the image you want to write
19:51-!-ring0 [~ring0@dslb-084-059-074-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:52<sney_>Debian is the only one I'm aware of that does the hybrid iso, but I don't really keep up on other distros
19:53-!-gdb [~gdb@circe.inetdb.com] has quit [Quit: gdb]
19:53-!-cesar [~cesar@201-66-37-65.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #debian
19:54<youlysses>I think Ubuntu switched over this cycle....? But yeah, I getya. I'm trying to get the GNOME-3.4 live-cd on one (a usb) to show some friends... It's turning out harder than expected ... :-L
19:54-!-DragonDon [~DragonDon@121.132.143.93] has joined #debian
19:56-!-amakusa [~jaymeza@190.53.125.230] has joined #debian
19:58-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has joined #debian
19:58-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:00-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:00-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
20:01-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
20:01-!-ribe [~ribe@c-98-254-100-215.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ribe]
20:03-!-_julian_ [~quassel@hmbg-5f773fad.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
20:05-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:05-!-DragonDon [~DragonDon@121.132.143.93] has quit [Quit: I'm outta here]
20:06-!-DragonDon [~DragonDon@121.132.143.93] has joined #debian
20:06-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:07-!-amakusa [~jaymeza@190.53.125.230] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20:07-!-OdyX [~OdyX@cl-229.gva-01.ch.sixxs.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:09-!-robbiethe1st [~robbiethe@50-52-13-12.cral.id.frontiernet.net] has joined #debian
20:10-!-_julian [~quassel@hmbg-5f764741.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:13-!-zlynx [~Lynx@15.211.153.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:13-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-37-156.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
20:14-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
20:14-!-amakusa [~jaymeza@190.53.125.230] has joined #debian
20:15-!-ypwong [~anthony@114.248.52.178] has joined #debian
20:16-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has joined #debian
20:17-!-aranax [~aranax@190.56.140.209] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
20:18<SynrG>i have a squeeze system that inexplicably started automounting an SD card as /media/^A (i.e. literally ascii 01) instead of /media/969E-39C6
20:19<sney_>where did the old (969E...) identifier come from?
20:19<SynrG>it was assigned. dunno
20:19<SynrG>it's a fat32 filesystem
20:20<dvs>SynrG: It looks like a FAT label
20:20<SynrG>i don't think the system has been rebooted since the last round of updates Apr. 4 ...
20:21<SynrG>possible the label was corrupted? how do i view the label?
20:21-!-zlynx [~Lynx@15.211.153.75] has joined #debian
20:21<dvs>SynrG: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
20:21-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:22-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
20:22<SynrG>yeah, that's it. but i mean ... what would change that?
20:22<dvs>SynrG: Reformatting the disk for one...
20:22<sney_>$other-os reformat
20:22<SynrG>no
20:22<SynrG>anything else?
20:22<dvs>e2label
20:23<SynrG>unlikely
20:23<sney_>it's an sd card, is it from some other device (eg tablet, camera) that might have done something to it?
20:23<SynrG>fat32, remember?
20:23<SynrG>no
20:23<SynrG>it's permanently inserted in the netbook
20:24<SynrG>i mean ... obviously you can physically remove it. but the user never does
20:24<SynrG>not unless it was bumped
20:25<sney_>yeah, it's weird, as long as you're mounting by UUID it shouldn't make a usability difference, but I'd keep a close eye on that sd card for other signs of corruption or failure
20:25<SynrG>it certainly does make a usability difference. we have a symlink card -> /media/969E-39C6 ... now i need to figure something else out
20:26<sney_>well, mount it by uuid with a fstab entry and a static mount point. no?
20:26<sney_>you said yourself it never gets removed
20:27-!-quang [~quang@123.24.218.96] has joined #debian
20:27<SynrG>yes, i can fix it that way. vexing, though
20:27-!-nodiscc [~mrzorg@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
20:27<SynrG>makes me worry something more serious has happened to it
20:27<sney_>hopefully the issue is with the sd card itself and not the eee's reader slot
20:27-!-gdb [~gdb@circe.inetdb.com] has joined #debian
20:28<nodiscc>is there a way I can change the umask during Debian installation? is there a preseed option for that?
20:28<SynrG>sney_: the system is coming up on 5 years old
20:28<sney_>has it been the same sd card the whole time?
20:28<SynrG>no
20:28<nodiscc>i'm not sure about what "adduser/homedir-permission false" does, does it change the umask?
20:28<SynrG>the card was added later
20:29<SynrG>maybe a year later, though
20:29<sney_>so it's been a single sd card used as a hard drive in a netbook constantly for 4 years
20:29-!-clopez [~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:29-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-98-117-207-54.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
20:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 490] by debhelper
20:30<sney_>I'm impressed it lasted this long. they aren't really designed for constant i/o
20:30<SynrG>sney_: uhh, strange ...
20:30<SynrG>there *is* a symlink for the label
20:30<SynrG>but it's in the by-uuid dir!
20:31-!-ypwong [~anthony@114.248.52.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:31-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-98-117-207-54.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
20:31-!-youlysses [~youlysses@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:31-!-amakusa [~jaymeza@190.53.125.230] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20:31<sney_>is that gnome's automount?
20:32-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.3.213] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:32-!-janos_ [~janos@95.180.64.94] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20:32-!-youlysses-lt [~youlysses@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #debian
20:32<SynrG>what does gnome have to do with what goes in /dev/disk?
20:32<SynrG>i thought that was all udev or something
20:33<sney_>afaik, non-fstab plug and play automount is handled by your desktop environment of choice
20:33-!-chomwitt [~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-37-106.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:33-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:33-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
20:33<sney_>but I don't really understand how they work, my brain files that under "voodoo"
20:33<nodiscc>in gnome automount is handled by udisks, just sayin
20:34<SynrG>but udisks hasn't changed recently :/
20:34-!-hubutm20 [~hubutm20@79.114.119.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:34-!-hubutm20 [~hubutm20@79.114.119.180] has joined #debian
20:34<SynrG>trying to think what change might have caused this
20:34<sney_>nodiscc: thanks, I didn't know that
20:35-!-DragonDon [~DragonDon@121.132.143.93] has quit [Quit: I'm outta here]
20:35<nodiscc>SynrG: sorry I was offline at the beginning of the conversation. Whats the problem?
20:36-!-cvr [~johnny@ppp118-209-147-119.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
20:36<sney_>he has a sd card that changed its FAT label (and, consequently, mount point) seemingly by itself
20:38<nodiscc>uh
20:38<nodiscc>what is the new label?
20:39<cesar>perdendo tempo com isso ai
20:39<cesar>cobrando um label vê se pode
20:39<cesar>passa aqui que o pai te paga
20:39<plugwash>what is the easiest way to add something to the end of every line of text as it passes it from standard input to standard output (this is for use in a shell script)
20:39<nodiscc>!br
20:39<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
20:40-!-kitai [~kitai@175.139.162.193] has joined #debian
20:40<cesar>whats for me a label boy ?
20:40-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has joined #debian
20:40<cesar>in label for me okay ?
20:41-!-kitai [~kitai@175.139.162.193] has quit []
20:41-!-bolt [~r00t@cm-84.215.135.188.getinternet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:41<sney_>cesar: do you have a debian question
20:41<sney_>nodiscc: he said it changed to ^A
20:41<cesar>sney, no
20:42<sney_>cesar: this irc channel is for help with debian, if you do not have a question please go somewhere else
20:42<nodiscc>i've had problems with udisks recently, like it had kept the entry of a LUKS volume I had unplugged. but I was on red wine
20:42<nodiscc>so maybe it was just me
20:42<SynrG>nodiscc: the new label is ascii 01
20:42<nodiscc>ok
20:42<SynrG>i.e. ctrl-A
20:42<SynrG>very strange
20:43<SynrG>shows as a unicode 0001 glyph
20:43<cesar>sney, you have a chanel for time light ?
20:43<nodiscc>strange yes
20:44<sney_>cesar: www.searchirc.com
20:44<SynrG>and /dev/disk/by-uuid/969E-39C6 exists, pointing at /dev/sdb1
20:44-!-cesar is now known as ghets
20:44-!-kuhkatz [~kuhkatz@137-53-142-46.pool.kielnet.net] has quit [Quit: quit]
20:45<nodiscc>SynrG: I thought uuids had nothing to do with labels, so maybe that's ok
20:46<nodiscc>what was the old label?
20:46-!-ghets is now known as Libert
20:47<SynrG>same
20:47<SynrG>969E-39C6
20:48-!-silverclown [~silverclo@86-41-108-90-dynamic.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net] has joined #debian
20:48<nodiscc>I think it's not related, you can change the label to whatever and the entry in by-uuid/ doesn't change
20:48-!-krabador [~krabador@host75-178-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
20:48-!-krabador [~krabador@host75-178-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
20:48<nodiscc>in mine i have things like 94c26782-20f6-491e-b5d7-a2a9905ad877
20:48<SynrG>looks like label, when not set, defaults to uuid and the default changed?
20:49<dvs>nodiscc: That's a ext2/3 UUID
20:49<dvs>SynrG: That's what I'm guessing
20:49<SynrG>remember, this is FAT32
20:49*nodiscc looks around for a FAT32 usb key
20:50-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-188-174-46-83.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
20:50-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.201.219.156] has joined #debian
20:50-!-quang [~quang@123.24.218.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:50-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@124-170-38-183.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
20:51-!-silverclown [~silverclo@86-41-108-90-dynamic.b-ras2.lmk.limerick.eircom.net] has quit []
20:51-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.201.219.156] has quit []
20:52-!-drkpkg [~drkpkg@190.129.40.37] has joined #debian
20:52-!-y2kcorvette [~y2kcorvet@50.9.75.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:53-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.14.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:53<sney_>Libert: uh, what?
20:54-!-bolt [~r00t@cm-84.215.135.188.getinternet.no] has joined #debian
20:55-!-Libert [~cesar@201-66-37-65.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:57<nodiscc>meh, I don't know. When I create a fat32 partition without label, it really doesn't have a label. and no entry in /dev/disk/by-label/. But it has one as /dev/disk/by-uuid/7D5D-BBC9
20:58-!-libert [~six@201-66-37-65.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #debian
20:58<nodiscc>i would be wary with that sd card if I was you
21:00<nodiscc>concerning my problem, i think i'll just set "adduser/homedir-permission false" in my preseed file. No need to change the umask I think
21:01<SynrG>well, my daughter's downloads folder is there and her desktop backgrounds
21:01<nodiscc>I don't want my user home directories to be world-readable
21:01-!-Therion87 [~Therion@108-84-80-15.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:04-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:04-!-zem_ [~voodoo@93-139-188-59.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
21:06-!-EnPii [~metalplat@184-98-146-250.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #debian
21:06-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:06-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
21:06-!-zem [~voodoo@93-139-155-197.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:06-!-EnPii [~metalplat@184-98-146-250.phnx.qwest.net] has quit []
21:06-!-OdyX [~OdyX@46-126-164-178.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #debian
21:07-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
21:07-!-tonsofpcs [~tonsofpcs@cpe-72-230-192-8.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
21:08-!-Therion87 [~Therion@108-84-80-15.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
21:08-!-drkpkg [~drkpkg@190.129.40.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:11<libert>i love the hacker world
21:12-!-[418] [~Hardcore@70.51.199.35] has joined #debian
21:12-!-[418] [~Hardcore@70.51.199.35] has quit []
21:12-!-pretoblack [~andre@186.255.132.15] has joined #debian
21:13-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has joined #debian
21:14-!-skiold [~adrian@213.27.225.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:15-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
21:18-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
21:21-!-Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> services.oftc.net quits: FloodServ
21:22-!-Therion87 [~Therion@108-84-80-15.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:23-!-nautics-lap [~nautics-a@124-168-81-67.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
21:23-!-pretoblack [~andre@186.255.132.15] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
21:24-!-zachary [~zachary@c-66-30-181-168.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #debian
21:24-!-zachary is now known as linux2
21:25-!-linux2 [~zachary@c-66-30-181-168.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit []
21:27-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@124-170-38-183.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:27-!-noroot [~thereisno@h99028.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit []
21:27-!-nautics-lap is now known as bluewater
21:27-!-biologolunar [~bl@190.77.91.15] has joined #debian
21:28-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@124-168-81-67.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit []
21:28-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@124-168-81-67.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
21:28-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@124-168-81-67.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit []
21:30-!-libert [~six@201-66-37-65.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:31-!-CowboyBebop [~emilio@host125.186-125-91.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
21:31-!-CowboyBebop [~emilio@host125.186-125-91.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:31-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.201.219.156] has joined #debian
21:31-!-gdb [~gdb@circe.inetdb.com] has quit [Quit: gdb]
21:32-!-walterwoden [~walterwod@cpe-76-187-27-59.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
21:32-!-walterwoden [~walterwod@cpe-76-187-27-59.tx.res.rr.com] has quit []
21:33-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:33-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
21:37-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@host44-197-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
21:37-!-el_robin [~boom@124.193.203.43] has joined #debian
21:37-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A905B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
21:37-!-skiold [~adrian@90.161.233.141] has joined #debian
21:40-!-safinaskar [~quassel@188.44.56.155] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:43-!-kaleb [~kaleb@173-202-3-5.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #debian
21:43-!-AbsintheSyringe [~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-4055.sa.bih.net.ba] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/9eZTrp]
21:44<kaleb>do you plug in voice recognition?
21:45-!-dirichle2 [~ffurnari@216.251.112.134] has joined #debian
21:46<kaleb>how do u plug in voice recognition?
21:47-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@host44-197-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:47-!-kaleb [~kaleb@173-202-3-5.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit []
21:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 483] by debhelper
21:51-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@86.99.44.51] by ChanServ
21:51-!-Netsplit over, joins: FloodServ
21:51-!-FloodServ is "FloodServ" on (unknown)
21:53-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@h87-96-232-93.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:54-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-188-174-46-83.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
21:59-!-skiold [~adrian@90.161.233.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:01-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has joined #debian
22:02-!-naiv_ [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-247-132.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:02-!-naiv [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-247-132.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:04-!-nsadmin [~nsadmin@108-81-107-242.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:06-!-hychen [~hychen@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
22:07-!-dirichle2 [~ffurnari@216.251.112.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:17-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
22:20-!-sergio [~sergio@189.71.10.134] has joined #debian
22:20-!-sergio [~sergio@189.71.10.134] has quit []
22:21-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.9.81] has joined #debian
22:25-!-overloard [~vit@186.88.43.125] has joined #debian
22:26<overloard>hola buenas noches una
22:27-!-scorphus [~scorphus@scorphus.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:27-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.9.81] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:27<overloard>tengo un problema adquirí un equipo portatil de cantv una vit m2400
22:28<overloard>esta trajo canaima 2.1 instalado
22:29<overloard>entra de manera directa al sistema operativo sin usuario y contraseña necesito saber la clave de super usuario
22:29-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.11.42] has joined #debian
22:31<sney>!es
22:31<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
22:31-!-overloard [~vit@186.88.43.125] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
22:32-!-nicholi [~nicholi@rrcs-76-79-196-34.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
22:33-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:33-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
22:34-!-scorphus [~scorphus@scorphus.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:34-!-haylo [~haylo@ppp-70-225-179-199.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #debian
22:35-!-seanius [~seanius@cobija.connexer.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
22:35-!-seanius [~seanius@cobija.connexer.com] has joined #debian
22:38-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.1.77] has joined #debian
22:39-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.1.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:41-!-legnaleurc [~quassel@dblab97.csie.ncu.edu.tw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:43-!-noahfx [~noahfx@190.148.143.24] has joined #debian
22:43-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.26.188] has joined #debian
22:44-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.11.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:44-!-streuner_ [~streuner@mnhm-4d01a643.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
22:46-!-aranax [~aranax@201.216.150.80] has joined #debian
22:48-!-sergio [~sergio@189.71.10.134] has joined #debian
22:49-!-sergio is now known as Guest5
22:50-!-martin_ [~martin@f048160090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
22:51-!-Guest5 [~sergio@189.71.10.134] has quit []
22:52-!-streuner [~streuner@mnhm-4d019664.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:54-!-worellana [~worellana@190.86.48.195] has joined #debian
22:54-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-37-156.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
22:56-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:57-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f049139069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:00-!-whodare_ [~whodare@114.249.219.185] has joined #debian
23:01-!-whodare [~whodare@114.249.219.185] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:02-!-plugwash [~plugwash@cpc7-stkp7-2-0-cust208.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:06-!-el_robin [~boom@124.193.203.43] has quit [Quit: Boom]
23:07-!-k43 [~k43@202.152.205.161] has joined #debian
23:07-!-chealer [~chealer@modemcable156.191-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian
23:08-!-daube [~smuxi@203-217-43-184.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
23:09<daube>Hi all, just got a new MB, gigabyte z77x-ud3h
23:09<daube>sound is not working out of the box, alsa says no cards detected
23:10<daube>lshw gives 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev 04)
23:10<sney>that's brand spanking new, you'll need a new kernel
23:11<sney>!bpo
23:11<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <backports-sloppy> <bdo xorg>, <bdo NEW>.
23:11-!-oiig_ [~eohnik@112.161.134.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:11<sney>this ^ has a 3.2 kernel you can install on squeeze, which will likely give you your audio support
23:12-!-whodare_ [~whodare@114.249.219.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:12<daube>sweet, i tried alsa-* packages from bpo, but with no luck, so time for a new kernel
23:13<sney>yeah, alsa-* packages are just utilities, the actual drivers are kernel modules and are distributed with kernels
23:13-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:13<sney>judd, kernels
23:13<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.3.0-trunk-686-pae (3.3-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.14-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-2-686-pae (3.2.12-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.2.12-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-41squeeze2); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-29)
23:13-!-Unmenschlich [~steven@p5DC11AA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
23:13-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
23:14<sney>looks like it'll be 3.2
23:14-!-alephnull [~alok@122.172.21.41] has joined #debian
23:15-!-biologolunar [~bl@190.77.91.15] has quit [Quit: Bye!!]
23:16-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.201.219.156] has quit [Quit: ok]
23:16-!-canaima [~canaima@190.121.238.161] has joined #debian
23:17-!-Unmensch [~steven@p5DC114B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:18<canaima>holaap
23:19-!-kiwnix [~egarcia@82.158.154.223.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:21-!-youlysses-lt [~youlysses@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:21-!-k43 [~k43@202.152.205.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:24<chealer>is http://wiki.debian.org up for anyone?
23:25<canaima>que hay
23:28-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
23:31<daube>for future reference, if you're upgrading the kernel to 3.2 from bpo, you need to get the "at" package from the squeeze-updates repo to fix the broken packages caused by installing the 3.2-bpo kernel.
23:31<ml|>chealer: not coming up here either, also check with... http://www.isup.me/wiki.debian.org
23:31<ml|>checked*
23:32<chealer>thanks ml|
23:32<ml|>np
23:33-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
23:34-!-daube [~smuxi@203-217-43-184.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:38-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-15-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:39-!-deadlock [~no_uid@189.71.8.76] has joined #debian
23:39-!-deadlock [~no_uid@189.71.8.76] has left #debian []
23:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 477] by debhelper
23:40-!-micove [~micove@72.187.240.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:42-!-canaima [~canaima@190.121.238.161] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
23:42-!-jardiamj [~jardiamj@rdbk.p3-221.molalla.net] has joined #debian
23:44-!-MrCasy [~tim@68.205.27.22] has joined #debian
23:44-!-rsalveti` is now known as rsalveti
23:44<chealer>it's back
23:48-!-MrCasy [~tim@68.205.27.22] has quit []
23:48-!-MrCasy [~tim@68.205.27.22] has joined #debian
23:49<MrCasy>anyone tell me where the the help server is for ultimate 3.2
23:50-!-micove [~micove@72.187.240.39] has joined #debian
23:51-!-Chef_Infinity [~M@S0106001c1008b7a4.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
23:51-!-Chef_Infinity [~M@S0106001c1008b7a4.vc.shawcable.net] has quit []
23:51-!-MrCasy [~tim@68.205.27.22] has quit []
23:54-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.74.99] has quit [Quit: If it wasn't written down it didn't happen...]
23:54-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.74.99] has joined #debian
23:59-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.8.2] has joined #debian
---Logclosed Thu Apr 12 00:00:59 2012