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00:10<tuvshinjargal>how to install nvidia geforce 7300 gt video card on debian
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00:12<cthuluh>well... what's your actual problem?
00:12<tuvshinjargal>i need use googleearth
00:13<cthuluh>so, your card is properly working, but you need more 3D support?
00:14<cthuluh>I guess installing the proprietary driver is what you're really looking for, take a look at the wiki
00:14<cthuluh>!nvidia
00:14<dpkg>http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
00:16<tuvshinjargal>this step do it
00:16<tuvshinjargal>Reading state information... Done
00:16<tuvshinjargal>E: Unable to locate package nvidia-kernel-source
00:18<tuvshinjargal>module-assistant, error message
00:18<cthuluh>I guess you didn't take time to actually read the wiki :)
00:18<tuvshinjargal>installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed
00:19<cthuluh>http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Overview
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00:22<cthuluh>damn, commenting the 'SV' entry, running ''init q'', un-commenting it and then re-running ''init q'' doesn't make init respawn runsvdir
00:23<cthuluh>I know I could start runsvdir-start by hand, but still...
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02:19<sirriffsalot>Yo
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03:05<benjr>whats a good tool for stress testing my cpu?
03:06<saep>mprime
03:06<benjr>google search turned up cpuburn and mprime, both seem to have not been updated ina while
03:07<jm_>there's also stress
03:07<jm_>why do you think they should be updated?
03:07<benjr>im going to be reaplcing my cpu cooler and just want ot have some figures for comparison
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03:08<benjr>jm_, the man for cpuburn quotes 2002, im sure a lot has changed in 10 years with cpus
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03:08<jm_>any of those that can load all CPU cores will do just fine
03:08<jm_>benjr: the principle to load a cpu is still the same
03:09<jm_>then again, if your CPU also has graphic core in it you might need additional stuff
03:09<benjr>jm_, with cpuburn i have to pick k6, k7, p5, p6, or mmx, thats what first alterted me to it seeming a bit old
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03:10<benjr>jm_, im using dedicated video card
03:11<jm_>benjr: just use mprime/stress as they use more generic way
03:13<kazuma>i second stress, it seems to work ok
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03:16<benjr>thanks guys, any tips on what arguments to use? its asking about required number of cpu bound processes, io bound processes, and memory allocator processes ... all a bit above me
03:17<kazuma>stress --cpu numberofcores
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03:17<benjr>ah ok that simple enough :)
03:17<kazuma>ctrl+c to quit it, but you probably know that
03:18<benjr>once of the few things i do know
03:18<kazuma>be careful you do not use too many jobs as it can make things a bit slow ;)
03:18<benjr>althoguht i sualy hit ctrl+z, +x, and +C until one works, no idea what the difference is lol
03:18<benjr>usually*
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03:23<benjr>why is it that even though stress is runing right now, and load averages are high, i can still open gui apps etc
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03:24<benjr>i thought that would be impossible when core it 100%
03:24<kazuma>linux uses a task scheduler called completely fair scheduler or cfs, that gives time sharing to processes
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03:25<kazuma>it penalizes processes that run often and preempts idle tasks more quickly when they suddenly request cpu
03:26<jm_>benjr: you can affect some of that with nice
03:26<EmleyMoor>Where does Debian keep the "relay_from_hosts" setting for exim?
03:26<kazuma>aye, it will still stress the cores even if you nice them
03:26<jm_>or schedtool
03:27<kazuma>such as: nice -n 19 stress --cpu numberofcpus or schedtool -D -e stress --cpu numberofcpus
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03:27<kazuma>nice is there, youll need to install schedtool though
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03:34<EmleyMoor>Sorted
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03:41<Log_Out>how to install debian graphic intel for lenovo
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03:42<Log_Out>how to install debian on intel lenovo.,??
03:42<jm_>the same way it's installed on other similar computers
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03:44<Log_Out>do?
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03:57<imdea>Hi I have a debian server which is installed in this way: a /boot partition in ext3 and the rest is a LVM VG with LV inside. I was running squeeze, and after doing an aptitude upgrade it seems that something happened (I assume that with grub2) and now I'm not able to boot the server. It is running in a GPT partition table. What can I do?
03:58<bzed>imdea: boot a live cd like grml, mount your stuff, chroot into it and reinstall grub (if grub is the issue...)
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03:59<imdea>should I only mount my boot partition
03:59<imdea>?
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04:02<imdea>bzed, ?
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04:06<bzed>imdea: no. mount everything, bind0mount /dev and /sys, then chroot into your mounted system, then use the grub tools
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04:08<kblin>hm, d-i wants a swap partition on a box with 128 gig of ram... I'm not going for swap size = ram size * 2
04:08<kblin>in fact, I doubt I'll need swap at all
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04:09<haylo>i dont never use swap space anymore not even on my ten year old machine - but i dont compile stuff so it doesnt seem to matter
04:10<Log_Out>anyone have a shel
04:10<haylo>ever*
04:11<kazuma>you would only need as much swap as you think you would need to swap and at that point it seems like the ram would be cheaper than disk space, if you plan to hibernate the machine is the only need for a swap
04:12<kblin>no, I plan to power them down as seldom as possible, and if I do, it's a good opportunity to load new kernels, so hibernating them doesn't make any sense
04:12<kazuma>then it should be quite fine to not have one, i forsee no issues
04:12<haylo>kblin, i have ubuntu, debian and freebsd all running without swap spaces here
04:13<kblin>I mean I do recall back in the day when I had to use swap to open large pictures in gimp, but that box had like 128 megs of ram, not gigs
04:13<kblin>:)
04:13<kazuma>i dont use swap either, i use swapspace on zram :D
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04:13<haylo>kazuma, can you expain how it uses swap during hibernate- sorry i am noob
04:14<kblin>thanks for the confirmation, folks :)
04:14<imdea>bzed, could I mount it using an ubuntu cd?
04:14<kazuma>it writes the data from memory to the swap partition/file
04:14<haylo>oh ok cool. hey and "swap" files from vi arent actually on swap space are they?
04:15<haylo>those little swap file things drive me nuts sometimes
04:16<kblin>haylo: no. they're usually in the same directory as the file you're editing
04:16<kblin>called .filename.swp
04:16<kblin>and you shouldn't be seeing those unless vi crashes or you're trying to edit a file that's open in another editor
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04:17<kblin>or possibly when you're using vi inside a ssh session and your connection drops
04:17<haylo>right ok- i thought that was the case.
04:17<kblin>which reminds me that I wanted to try out mit's mobile shell
04:18<kblin>oh, and of course the "other editor" I was talking about would be another instance of vi/vim
04:18<haylo>right ofc thanks kblin
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04:21<wamty>If I attempt to drive some water out of a keyboard with GT85 (like WD40, but contains teflon), will it damage it?
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04:22<haylo>what do you plan on putting in their next to get that out?
04:23<haylo>i wash my keyboard with water and just fling the water out - but its old
04:25<intore>hi, i've a question. i have a server debian squeeze with ldap server. the clients are ubuntu. every user will authenticate using his username and password verificated on ldap server. i need suggestions about applications sharing. the lan has almost 200 users. every user will have a browser and some others application like libreoffice. where is better to install them? on the server or on the clients?
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04:26<babilen>intore: As your users are sitting in front of the clients you better install the software on the clients.
04:26<grove>I've been running with a kernel from backports (`uname -r`='2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64') - that I don't know for sure how I installed, because sources.list didn't list backports, and I don't have the .deb file lying around, but that's a detail - I now want to upgrade it (it's about time), so I visited http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ and added the suggested line to my my sources.list, ran 'aptitude update', and now 'aptitude safe-upgrade' and ...
04:26<grove>... 'aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64' ('apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6-amd64' says the candidate for that is version 3.2+44~bpo60+1 from backports) both wants to install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64. Why? The network chip on this motherboard requires 2.6.36 so installing that kernel will be a waste of time, and I'm afraid I'm about to trash the computer - which I really don't have the time for
04:27<jm_>grove: because you didn't add -t squeeze-backports
04:27<babilen>grove: You actually want to run "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-amd64" (note the different package name and usage of "-t squeeze-backports)
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04:28<babilen>You need to adjust the priority of squeeze-backports temporarily (cf. "apt-cache policy") if you want to install packages from there
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04:29<grove>jm_, babilen: Well, that makes perfect sense (and was on the instruction page, so quite embarrasing that I missed it), thank you both
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04:30<babilen>grove: Hehe, don't worry. We would have nothing to do if everybody would have read all relevant documentation already.
04:31<intore>babilen: why is better this for you?
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04:33<babilen>intore: Your users are working on their client. You therefore have to install software there if you want them to be able to use it. I don't understand why you even consider to install it on the LDAP server :-/
04:33<babilen>*clients
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04:35<intore>babilen: i've only one server with everything.
04:35<babilen>"everything" ?
04:36<intore>babilen: dhcp server, dns server, ldap server, samba, apache
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04:37<babilen>intore: Ok, sure. But you want people to work on their own computers that run Ubuntu not on the server. If you want to have more software on the clients you have to install it there. Please do *not* install random third-party software into your user's /home directories, as you so urgently want to do.
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04:41<kblin>well, technically you could install the applications on the server and run them remotely via X
04:41<intore>babilen: ok. i don't know one thing. Every user will have his directory on the server created after first login on ldap. If i install a program, for example icewease, on the clients, where will be saved his settings, history, etc? on the clients or on the server?
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04:42<kblin>intore: ok, it seems like what you really want is roaming home directories
04:42<kblin>what you could do using afs, cifs, nfs or the like
04:43<babilen>intore: How to you server the /home directories to the users?
04:43<babilen>*server
04:43<babilen>err
04:43<babilen>s/server/serve
04:44<intore>babilen: don't understand
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04:45<babilen>intore: Your users have home directories and programs will save their user-specific configuration there. (typically in /home/$USER/.config/$PROGRAM or /home/$USER/.$PROGRAM/ or so)
04:46<babilen>intore: So, if the home directories are centrally managed and served to the clients via, say, nfs (or any other network fs (see kblin's remark above)) they will have the same data on every client. I would strongly recommend that scheme.
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04:47<babilen>How do you setup your clients? Do they fetch an image somewhere via PXE/TFTP? Are they manually installed boxes?
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04:50<intore>babilen: i think to install the os directly on every client. i don't know others way. and i'll use nfs but is the first time.
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04:50<babilen>Installing and managing 200 single clients *will* drive you mad eventually.
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04:53<intore>babilen: i have 30 clients with 200 users
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04:53<babilen>still
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04:55<intore>babilen: so what do you suggest?
04:56<intore>babilen: about os client installation?
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04:57<kblin>ok, so I take ldap makes sure all users have the same uid on all systems?
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04:58<wamty>Is there a command line MSN client for Linux?
04:58<wamty>tmsnc is discontinued
04:59<petemc>bitlbee does msn i believe
04:59<wamty>I wonder if meebo in lynx would work xD
04:59<intore>kblin: yes
04:59<wamty>so?
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04:59<kblin>I really like bitlbee
04:59<kblin>I've got irc open anyway
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05:01<imdea>I am having problems trying to recover my grub2. I run a debian rescue live cd, mounted my boot partition as well as /proc and /dev and after doing chroot to the mountpoint I made a: grub-install /dev/sda1 but i get this error: grub-install: 37: basename not found
05:01<imdea>any ideas?
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05:04<babilen>intore: http://wiki.debian.org/FAI for example -- But you probably also want to learn something like puppet.
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05:08<intore>babilen: thank you. at the end, what is best about programs that will use the users? install them on the server using NFS or on the clients?
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05:08<babilen>intore: No, you install them *on the clients*
05:08<babilen>(I've been saying this *for days* -- Please do not install software into your user's /home directories)
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05:10<jm_>imdea: basename is in /usr/bin - is this not available in your chroot? or not in PATH? probably the latter
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05:17<intore>babilen: ok, so i'll install on the clients and not on user's home directory. in this way every user logged will have these programs available. but! if every user has his home directory on the server and not on the clients, files like history, bookmarks and also file of calc, writer will be saved on the server?
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05:19<haylo>i think those are all .config files in your home directory like .mozilla, .xchat
05:19<babilen>intore: yes (in the user's /home directory)
05:19<intore>babilen: on the server
05:19<intore>?
05:19<babilen>yes
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05:20<intore>babilen: ok. so nfs is not necessary?
05:20<babilen>Your user's /home directories are on the server and being served via, say, nfs to the clients. The data in the /home directories is therefore saved on the server.
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05:20<babilen>intore: It doesn't necessarily have to be NFS (AFS+Kerberos would do (yay, kinit!))
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05:25*Black_Prince never understood kerberos
05:26<intore>babilen: am not sure i understood everything. a user will log into a client. ldap verify his credentials and mount his home directory specified on ldap configuration. To do this is necessary have something like nfs, samba, afs?
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05:44*gnugr i think debianEDU/skolelinux is a good example for ldap
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06:41<reyes>eyyy xocetes
06:42<reyes>xoxetesss
06:42<reyes>ohhhhhh
06:43<Maulkin>Um.
06:43<Maulkin>!es
06:43<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
06:44<reyes>que te pasa
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06:44<reyes>c.....n
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06:53<reyes>eyyyyy
06:53<reyes>hermanooo y putillasssss
06:53<reyes>puta
06:54<reyes>do you want eat my dick?
06:54<imdea>tu eres tonto o que? niñato, esto es un canal en ingles, si quieres hablar en español vete a #debian-es
06:54<DragonDon>Greetings all
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06:57<reyes>ablo como me sale de la polla ok??
06:57<reyes>ya e ablao en ingles
06:57<carlo>ciao
06:57<reyes>comp raboss
06:58<reyes>ohhhhhhhhh
06:58<reyes>xke tengo ke ablar en ingles putii??
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07:00<Godzsila>Hola
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07:03<Godzsila>Carlo te has manchaooo
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07:05<DragonDon>Is xllvnc only supposed to work properly when run with sudo x11vnc as opposed to just running x11vnc?
07:08<nsadmin>Godzsila, hi hola, /msg dpkg es
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07:11<DragonDon>is there an easy way to modify this script to work under debian? http://mlepicki.com/2011/10/remote-vnc-login-to-ubuntu-11-10/
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07:14<devil>DragonDon: maybe you want to ask your real question
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07:16<DragonDon>I want to start x11vnc on system start
07:16<DragonDon>this script shows a ubuntu system script, wondering what sytaxes may be needed to work, if at all
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07:18<nsadmin>how do you start it now?
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07:19<DragonDon>right now manually, I was trying to run it remotely but I couldn't get it (was forgetting the -auth guess arg) . Ideally it would be nice for it only to work when I have ConnectBot (Android) connect.
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07:20<DragonDon>ConnectBot has a "post login automation" field, haven't explored that, thinking it may be easier on the server side than client.
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07:21<DragonDon>I suppose a script executed when connectbog connects would work but right now, x11vnc only works with using sudo, otherwise ir runs but I can't connect.
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07:22<SynrG>DragonDon: to answer your first question, x11vnc works fine as an ordinary user
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07:23<DragonDon>ok, then perhaps I could use some help in diagnosing why it isn't :)
07:23<SynrG>DragonDon: the problem with launching x11vnc without sudo is the discovery of where the X credentials are. that is often in a non-user-accessible location so scripts i've seen to start it often use sudo to get that detail
07:23<SynrG>but x11vnc *itself* does not need root once the user is actually logged in
07:23<SynrG>that being said, if you want x11vnc to manage gdm as well as the user's session, it needs to run as root
07:24<DragonDon>the -auth guess worked as I learned about the creditials issues as well.
07:25<SynrG>i guess "on system start" implies you want the gdm login prompt managed by vnc too?
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07:25<DragonDon>not really, I leave the system on and logged in all the time, I just want to be able to access the desktop that is running while I am away.
07:26<SynrG>if i had a single user system which i knew was in a physically secure location, i might set up gdm to autologin to my username and then use an ordinary autostart mechanism for starting x11vnc
07:26<DragonDon>the only way it current works is if I run "sudo x11vnc -forever -auth guess -rfbauth /home/dragondon/.vnc/passwd"
07:26<SynrG>because autostart for the desktop already has XAUTHORITY in its environment, there should be no need for -auth guess
07:26<DragonDon>this is a home system and quite secure.
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07:28<SynrG>whether you do autologin or not is entirely up to you, then. you may find it convenient after a reboot to have remote vnc access to your already logged in session
07:28<DragonDon>if I run it without sudo, I get "PORT=5900" and returned back to the command prompt. with sudo I can watch the messages scroll across and I can connect, otherwise I can't
07:29<DragonDon>so, for an autostart, where to look to get that info?
07:29<SynrG>that's WM or DE-specific
07:29<nsadmin>DragonDon, when you access your desktop, what are some of the things you do? can any or all of that be accomplished using shell/terminal/ssh?
07:31<DragonDon>Some stuff can be done via ssh but until I learn more, I have to supplement with a gui environment. (i.e. launching apps et all)
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07:32<nsadmin>remember that like windows and unlike macos, the addition of X is just that, an addition. the real power is in the shell
07:32<nsadmin>and, unlike windows, the command line interpreter (aka shell) has extreme power that you can wield if you learn it
07:33<DragonDon>indeed I understand. I have a way to go to understand better, but until then, this is part of my learning as well :)
07:34<DragonDon>I cut my teeth on DOS 3.3 but unfortunately became braindad for a number of years on Windows :(
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07:34<nsadmin>good enough... just wanted to make the point in the hope it helps you later
07:35<DragonDon>thanks nsadmin , I liked the cli stuff back running my BBS from DOS :)
07:36<nsadmin>some things are similar... some are very different, and usually the difference allows more expressiveness
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07:37<DragonDon>indeed. Hence why I am trying to understand the best way to do something automagically I can do manually right now.
07:37<SynrG>DragonDon: you should familiarize yourself with however your desktop environment normally allows the user to configure applications to start upon login, as there are several mechanisms (ranging from dropping .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/ to some more GUI-oriented way)
07:38<SynrG>if you're using GNOME 2.x i no longer have a reference system to check how it is done there
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07:39<DragonDon>running 3.2.2.1
07:39<SynrG>ah. support for wheezy/sid is on #debian-next
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07:40<DragonDon>cool, thanks. oh hey, what do ya know, that's in the topic :P
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07:41<SynrG>:)
07:41<DragonDon>popping on over there now :) Although really, that much difference in auto-starting stuff huh?
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07:42<stringtheory>hi
07:42<stringtheory>how do I install gnome3 on Wheezy? Is it as straightforward as doing an "apt-get install gnome-shell"?
07:42<jm_>!install gnome
07:42<dpkg>To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, 'gnome-desktop-environment' for GNOME as defined by upstream, 'gnome-core' for a bit less and 'gnome-session' for the basic components actually needed to run a GNOME session. You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome
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07:45<nsadmin>, versions gnome
07:45<judd>Package: gnome on i386 -- lenny: 1:2.22.2~5; squeeze: 1:2.30+7; sid: 1:3.0+7; wheezy: 1:3.0+7
07:45<nsadmin>looks like gnome3 is what's in wheezy
07:45<jm_>indeed, I checked it the other day and that's why I know the factoid can be used
07:47<stringtheory>nsadmin, jm_ I 'upgraded' to Wheezy from Squeeze a couple of weeks ago and then ran various updates and upgrades but gnome remained as it was before (on the surface, at least), no changes to the launcher/dash etc etc.
07:48<stringtheory>So now I'm trying to see if "apt-get install gnome-shell" will result in an overhaul and upgrade of Gnome ...
07:48<nsadmin>so you['re at wheezy now?
07:48<stringtheory>nsadmin, yes
07:48<nsadmin>could you install libapp-nopaste-perl
07:48<nsadmin>and then run...
07:48<stringtheory>I will do
07:48<stringtheory>one moment
07:48<nsadmin>cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nopaste
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07:49<stringtheory>it wouldn't install
07:49<nsadmin>hmm...
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07:50<stringtheory>Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
07:50<stringtheory>requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
07:50<stringtheory>distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
07:50<stringtheory>or been moved out of Incoming.
07:50<stringtheory>The following information may help to resolve the situation:
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07:50<nsadmin>what;s the E: line or the error message
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07:50<stringtheory>sorry about that, I guess I triggered the flood
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07:51<nsadmin>ok, point browser at gist.github.com
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07:52<nsadmin>then, do cat /etc/apt/sources.list
07:53<stringtheory>https://gist.github.com/2376304
07:54<stringtheory>https://gist.github.com/2376322
07:54<nsadmin>that second is the sources.list?
07:54<stringtheory>yes
07:55<stringtheory>I think my sources need pruning, I still have references to Squeeze ... maybe that's causing issues?
07:55<nsadmin>ok, you look at it too, I want to refer to line numbers
07:55<stringtheory>k
07:56<stringtheory>I'm looking at it as we 'speak'
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07:58<nsadmin>ok, comment out lines 8, 9, 14, 15, 18, 19, 20 (comment char is #)
07:59<nsadmin>notice some lines are already commented
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07:59<stringtheory>k
07:59<stringtheory>one mo.
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08:02<stringtheory>done
08:02<stringtheory>now I run apt-get update?
08:02<nsadmin>or aptitude update
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08:03<stringtheory>ok, now running aptitude upgrade ... it says it's resolving dependencies ... so maybe it is downloading the libraries it needs to fully upgrade to Wheezy.
08:04<stringtheory>I guess I should have pruned my sources.list, when I "upgraded" to Wheezy. I just figured that it would automatically use the Wheezy sources and ignore the Squeeze options.
08:04<nsadmin>nono, run aptitude dist-upgrade
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08:04<nsadmin>and before that
08:04<nsadmin>run aptitude -f install
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08:05<stringtheory>ah, oops... should I cancel the on-going "aptitude upgrade"?
08:05<nsadmin>if it is downloading
08:05<nsadmin>(only)
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08:05<nsadmin>if it's done downloading, don't interrupt
08:05<stringtheory>it says it's resolving dependencies.
08:06<jm_>that can be safely interrupted, that's before download
08:06<nsadmin>has it asked you questions?
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08:06<stringtheory>nsadmin nope no questions yet
08:06<nsadmin>ok, kill it then
08:06<stringtheory>k
08:07<nsadmin>aptitude -f install
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08:07<stringtheory>running aptitude -f install right now
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08:07<stringtheory>btw, is there a difference in how apt and aptitude work and if so, is it preferable to use one over the other?
08:08<nsadmin>is it doing something?
08:08<stringtheory>I assumed that they did pretty much the same thing
08:08<stringtheory>yes
08:08<jm_>!why aptitude
08:08<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. lenny->squeeze). Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
08:08<nsadmin>well aptitude (presently) has better dep resolution
08:08<stringtheory>aptitude -f install finished
08:08<nsadmin>did it install or remove anything? configure?
08:08<nsadmin>assert that an error occured?
08:09<stringtheory>it removed a few items, shall I paste the text into another gist?
08:09<nsadmin>sure... also, I think you can start aptitude dist-upgrade
08:10<stringtheory>https://gist.github.com/2376512
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08:10<stringtheory>ok, I'll run aptitude dist-upgrade
08:11<nsadmin>ruby.. do you have interest in this?
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08:13<stringtheory>ruby? I want to try it out... but not had time to play around with it yet
08:13<stringtheory>hmm, I have a questionnaire to answer
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08:13<nsadmin>ok; it seems to have removed part of ruby, you can install it later
08:13<stringtheory>lots of qs with dependency issues where it suggests leaving them unmet
08:14<stringtheory>I'm selecting it's recommended option [Y] for all the ones that I do not really know much about.
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08:15<stringtheory>nsadmin, I guess that won't be a problem.
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08:15<nodiscc_away>how do I mount several LUKS encrypted volumes at boot time, that share the same passphrase, but typing the passphrase *only once* ?
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08:17<ansgar>nodiscc_away: Add a second file-based key, store that in /etc and use it to decrypt the other volumes.
08:17<ansgar>nodiscc: Also changing nicks sucks. /away exists.
08:18<nodiscc>ansgar: thanks (how do I come back from /away)
08:18<nodiscc>?
08:19<ansgar>nodiscc: You can remove your away status by using AWAY with no arguments.
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08:20<nsadmin>stringtheory, ok, try: aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl again
08:21<stringtheory>nsadmin, it's still doing the dist-upgrade... just went through a large(ish) man page of some sort (so it must be close to completing).
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08:22<nsadmin>oh ok, aptitude/apt-get/dpkg can only do one thing at a time (each obtains the same lock)
08:22<nodiscc>ansgar: ok got it. About that multiple LUKS partition setup, I assume you mean list the encrypted volumes in /etc/crypttab with their corresponding key? How do I create a keyfile for an already encrypted volume?
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08:25<nodiscc>echo "$PASSPHRASE" > /path/to/mykeyfile; cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/<encrypted volume> /path/to/mykeyfile ?
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08:27<stringtheory>nsadmin, seems like it's still got a long way to go ... I can see it's removing quite a lot of files/libraries and now it's unpacking what look like gnome3 files...
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08:28<nsadmin>which is what you wanted in the first place?
08:28<ansgar>nodiscc: Something like that, yes. I would just use some random data as the key material (from /dev/random) as nobody needs to remember it.
08:28<stringtheory>nsadmin, indeed :)
08:28<stringtheory>nsadmin, just keeping you informed as it's taking a little time.
08:28<nsadmin>appreciate that
08:29<nsadmin>very good chance at the end of that, you're done with fully upgrading to wheezy and installing gnome or parts thereof
08:30<stringtheory>ah, now it's configuring services, asked me whether I wanted to let it automatically restart services once it updates them (I chose to let it do so).
08:31<stringtheory>hopefully, seems that I messed up my "upgrade" from Squeeze, quite a bit, given how much the dist-upgrade is having to replace/remove.
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08:32<stringtheory>I'm hoping I can use this machine to learn/test development within Eclipse for Android.
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08:33<stringtheory>I guess I'm going to need to reinstall and reconfigure Eclipse, after this.
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08:33<nsadmin>and java dev kit
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08:33<stringtheory>ah yes
08:35<nsadmin>about restarting services, it may have done that for a coupla reasons... one, replacing libs may require running things to be restarted; 2, the programs themselves may have been replaced
08:35<stringtheory>I'm looking forward to doing that, as I suspect some of the settings I put in place in Eclipse aren't the best and I needed to clean them up anyway.
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08:36<stringtheory>ah, yeah I figured that the former was the case for mysql.
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08:36<stringtheory>and now the desktop wallpaper's gone, so I'm guessing it's proceeding to upgrade the desktop now :)
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08:37*nsadmin all day has been suggesting to mysql users to take a look at postgres
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08:38<stringtheory>I had a brief look at postgres, a while back, seems very similar to mysql (well, for my low-level of needs anyway).
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08:39<nsadmin>correct, they both have select, insert and update
08:40<stringtheory>yep, creating users and granting permissions and the above are all I basically use.
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08:41<stringtheory>according to the start-up and close-down info in Debian, postgres is already running/in use on the system or am I confused?
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08:43<stringtheory>hmm, there's a couple of errors adding ssl certs
08:44<stringtheory>"error adding /etc/ssl/certs/Certinomis_-_Autorité_Racine.pem"
08:44<stringtheory>^^ and another 2 or 3 instances now
08:44<nsadmin>usually those are example certs
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08:44<stringtheory>ah, k.
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08:44<nsadmin>well the examples are usually for the https part of web servers
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08:46<stringtheory>ok, now it's replacing grub (found my other 2 oses on the drive: 1) Ubuntu 11.10 and 2) Windows Vista) ... also, replaced my volume icon ...
08:47<stringtheory>ah finished!
08:48<stringtheory>ok, now to install libapp-nopaste-perl
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08:49<stringtheory>nsadmin, it's done installing libapp-nopaste-perl
08:49<nsadmin>it's like pastebinit... but that (and its maint) have been annoying, pastebinit for using pastebin.com and the maint for not fixing reported problems
08:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 501] by debhelper
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08:50<stringtheory>nhttp://pastie.org/3780296
08:50<nsadmin>oh good, that's a fair indication that your package database is more solid
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08:50<nsadmin>http://pastie.org/3780296
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08:51<nsadmin>according to this we've left only two lines uncommented from your sources.list
08:51<stringtheory>ah, so now I should be further along on the way to installing gnome3?
08:51<nsadmin>maybe it's installed already
08:51<stringtheory>oh
08:51<nsadmin>try aptitude install gnome
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08:53<stringtheory>ok, that's removing something called "caplets" and also the gstreamer library version "really-bad" (I think I needed that for flac or wma or some such)
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08:54<stringtheory>my desktop wallpaper's back now, so it's definitely replacing parts of gnome
08:54<marcoshow>salve
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08:56<stringtheory>nsadmin, it's finished installing. I got the following message (if it's at all of any importance): "Current status: 11146 new [-1]."
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08:56<stringtheory>do I just log out and switch to gnome 3 on the log-in screen now?
08:56<nsadmin>seems like it's good
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08:56<nsadmin>check it out... could work :)
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08:56<stringtheory>hehe
08:56<stringtheory>k
08:57<stringtheory>I'll be back in a bit then
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08:58<stringtheory>hmm, bad news
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08:58<nsadmin>what's that?
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08:59<stringtheory>nsadmin, http://pastie.org/3780338
08:59<stringtheory>I seem to have a hybrid of gnome 2 and 3 running now.
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09:00<stringtheory>things are functional, but no pretty (lol)
09:00<stringtheory>funny thing is, I can run gnome 3 perfectly well, within Ubuntu. Maybe I need to find a driver for my nvidia gfx card?
09:01<nsadmin>see what you have in your home dir, ls -aC ~ | nopaste
09:01<nsadmin>did the login screen work?
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09:02<stringtheory>nsadmin, the login screen was slightly different, but it let me choose gnome 3, classic, default and twim
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09:02<stringtheory>nsadmin, http://pastie.org/3780349
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09:03<stringtheory>now it's suggesting I run updates... gonna install them now
09:03<stringtheory>see if that makes it work
09:03<nodiscc>ansgar: so, I have created a random key, added it to the volume, set the mapper in /etc/crypttab with the corresponding key, set the fstab entry pointing to the device-mapper device I created in crypttab, but when I type mount -a it fails:
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09:03<nsadmin>what you can do is move .gnome2 and .gnome2_private to a different name
09:03<nodiscc>mount: special device /dev/mapper/TERABOX does not exist
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09:04<stringtheory>nsadmin, ok, I'll do that now
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09:04<nodiscc>my crypttab entry: TERABOX /dev/disk/by-uuid/212bd027-44e2-423a-8272-e7966309a826 /etc/keyfile-TERABOX luks
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09:05<nodiscc>my fstab entry: /dev/mapper/TERABOX /media/TERABOX ext4 noatime 0 2
09:05<nodiscc>what did I do wrong
09:05<stringtheory>nsadmin, should I log out and back in again?
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09:06<nsadmin>once you do that... switch to console (ctrl-alt-F1), log in as root, /etc/init.d/gdm stop , /etc/init.d/gdm start, then try log in
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09:08<nodiscc>ansgar: ok, i finally found it. I had to start the cryptdisks service
09:08<nodiscc>thanks for your help
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09:12<stringtheory>nsadmin, logged in again, no error messages this time
09:12<stringtheory>still looks like a hybrid of gnome classic and gnome 3
09:12<nsadmin>does it look different from before?
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09:13<stringtheory>slightly, got the calendar in the center of the start bar
09:13<stringtheory>no dash yet
09:14<nsadmin>I don't know what the driver could provide that the gnome stuff needs... the only guess would be direct rendering/hardware 3d accel
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09:14<stringtheory>the start menu is still "Applications" and "Places", rather than "Activities"
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09:15<stringtheory>nsadmin, I guess then I'm missing some dependencies and libraries still?
09:15<nsadmin>let's see if it's 3d drivers...
09:16<nsadmin>if you look at lspci -nn
09:16<nsadmin>you'll see that one of the lines describe your video card/chipset
09:16<nsadmin>show that one line
09:17<nsadmin>now the caveat here is I don't run wheezy... but we can still gather info for people who know stuff
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09:17<stringtheory>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] [10de:065b] (rev a1)
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09:18<stringtheory>I think that's the line
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09:18<stringtheory>the others are for memory, ram, usb, audio, ethernet ...
09:18<stringtheory>this is the only VGA I can see so far
09:19<nsadmin>oh, ok... so maybe you're running nv driver and need to get nvidia (the proprietary one that supports 3d accel)
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09:19<EmleyMoor>Since I changed ISP yesterday, I've been unable to get nfs to work between two of my machines. I have changed the exports and hosts.allow files, but still no go. The client uses autofs. It can see the exported directory structure, but not the actual contents. How do I work out what is wrong?
09:19<stringtheory>nsadmin, no worries, I'm experimenting and learning as we go... better to have problems, as they give opportunities for me to learn :)
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09:19<nsadmin>so what you need to do is find out about that
09:19<stringtheory>nsadmin, yes, that is probably the case. I remember having problems with compiz because of that too
09:20<nsadmin>were those problems solved at one point or another?
09:21<SaZha>How i get the ip of a host by shell command while scripting, plaese?
09:22<SaZha>like dns querey, aside
09:22<stringtheory>nsadmin, I never got around to resolving that issue, as it was only on a whim that I wanted to try compiz slick effects.
09:22<nsadmin>maybe you can parse the output of dig
09:22<stringtheory>the solution seemed to be to download a driver from nvidia and configure the kernal to work with it
09:23<stringtheory>dig?
09:23<nsadmin>dig is in dnsutils
09:23<SaZha>nsadmin, thx
09:23<nsadmin>get it and fool around with it
09:23<stringtheory>nsadmin, ah sorry... that was a reply to SaZha?
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09:24<nsadmin>stringtheory, heh, you can fool around with it too :)
09:24<stringtheory>lol
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09:25<stringtheory>nsadmin, this is where I got to last time I looked into the issue: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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09:28<nsadmin>I think the nvidia stuff is set up so that one of the packages you install download something
09:28<stringtheory>nsadmin, I think I may have found a solution: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=66291&start=15
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09:30<nsadmin>it's a package you build
09:30<nsadmin>and then install
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09:31<stringtheory>nsadmin, I guess I'll have to follow the instructions setout at: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
09:31<stringtheory>this will take a while.
09:32<nsadmin>yeah, I don't remember all the details... having said that, I think your installation is ready to try that
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09:33<ribe>is anyone else having problens wit pdf files in debian?
09:33<stringtheory>nsadmin, I'm going to grab some food and then, this evening, I'll get down to installing the 3d driver.
09:33<stringtheory>if you're around, I might bug you again :)
09:33<stringtheory>but thanks for all the help and patience :)
09:33<stringtheory>thanks :)
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09:34<stringtheory>away
09:34<stringtheory>AWAY
09:35<stringtheory>ah, forgot what the return command was
09:35<stringtheory>ok, now I go
09:35<stringtheory>thanks all!
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09:38<intore_>hi, i had a pc with debian etch, 2 hdisk, the first one was sda and second was sdb (sdb1 and sdb2). i formatted with squeeze and i installed it on sda1. now i don't find sdb. could you help me please?
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09:41<Solver>intore_: remember to stay in channel for a while. too many people leave a channel if thye don't see an answer in 2 minutes
09:41<Solver>intore_: I'm about to go to sleep but run fdisk -l from the command line (as root) and see if it can see /dev/sdb
09:41<supaman>intore_: do you see the hard disk in dmesg? how about in the /dev dir?
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09:42<intore_>Solver: i didn't leave this channel!
09:43<Solver>intore_: I noticed :) I've seen far too many people leave minutes after asking a question
09:43<intore_>Solver: ok
09:43<Solver>often i was going to answer their question too :)
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09:43<nsadmin>or one second after
09:43<intore_>Solver: i understand!
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09:44<SynrG>intore_: more precisely describe "i don't find sdb"
09:45<SynrG>if you simply want to mount the drive and it is not mounted, that requires some additional configuration by you
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09:45<SynrG>where are you looking, or what commands are you typing that fail to find sdb?
09:46<intore_>this is the output of fdisk -l
09:46<intore_> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
09:46<intore_>/dev/sda1 * 1 6092 48932865 5 Extended
09:46<intore_>/dev/sda4 6093 30401 195262042+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
09:46<intore_>/dev/sda5 5586 6092 4071424 82 Linux swap / Solaris
09:46<intore_>/dev/sda6 1 5586 44861440 83 Linux
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09:48<Solver>hi again :)
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09:48<intore>fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/GeyS1tQu
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09:49<nsadmin>wow :) learns fast :)
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09:51<supaman>intore: does the BIOS see the second hard disk?
09:51<SynrG>intore: you know fdisk only lists sda by default. to do some other device you need to tell it
09:51<SynrG>intore: what's the output from 'fdisk -l /dev/sdb'?
09:52<Solver>I always see all drives when I use fdisk -l
09:52<SynrG>oh, wait
09:52<SynrG>ignore me. just re-read the doc ;)
09:52<Solver>SynrG: :)
09:52<intore>Solver: nothing
09:52*SynrG suspects a loose cable or incorrect termination
09:52<Solver>I wonder if dmesg see it
09:52<intore>SynrG: ok!
09:53<SynrG>(incorrect termination only if applicable ;)
09:53<SynrG>have you physically been inside the box recently?
09:53<Solver>intore: you can also check /var/log/dmesg to see if it was seen on boot
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09:53<intore>Solver: yes
09:54<Solver>intore: it is listed in /var/log/dmesg?
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09:55<intore>Solver: there are many things there!
09:56<Solver>intore: true. you could search for sdb with a command like: grep sdb /var/log/dmesg (as root)
09:57<intore>Solver: nothing
09:57<intore>Solver: maybe is named by another name?
09:57<supaman>restart the machine, check if the BIOS sees it, if not check the cables
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10:00<EmleyMoor>Is mobile IPv6 a practical proposition at the moment?
10:00<EmleyMoor>(assuming that the device itself, and the one it talks to at its usual home, are both Debian)
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10:01<intore>supaman: do i have to enter in the bios?
10:01<supaman>intore: sometimes yes, sometimes the BIOS lists the detected harddrives at bootup
10:01<intore>supaman: i'll check
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10:04<SynrG>hm, .bi = burndi is a new one to me
10:04<SynrG>burundi*
10:04<supaman>yeh, dont think I have seen that either before
10:06<Solver>ccTLDs for all recognised states were allocated long ago but some of them have certainly been collecting dust on the shelf
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10:08<EmleyMoor>Not seen many .us addresses
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10:09<intore>am sorry. this is the output of grep sd /var/log/dmesg
10:09<intore>http://pastebin.com/ABbcx9uE
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10:11<Solver>that appears to show sdb with two partitions on it (each of sda & sdb is really 250Gb right?)
10:11<SynrG>so, there's no reason fdisk -l /dev/sdb should not show the partitions
10:11<Solver>agreed
10:11<SynrG>as for why "all partitions on all disks" are not shown for 'fdisk -l' (as indicated in the man page) that's a separate isseu
10:11<SynrG>issue*
10:11<intore>Solver: yes
10:11<SynrG>i don't know how disks are enumerated in that case
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10:13<supaman>intore: does ls /dev/sdb* show anything?
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10:13<Solver>sleep for me... going forward i'd try to mount /dev/sdb1 & /dev/sdb2 unless they are lvm PVs or swap
10:14<intore>supaman: it shows /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2
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10:14<supaman>intore: and those are the partitions you are looking for right?
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10:15<ayaka>I know init 3 to init 5 is the same,can I set a init level which is without X to start xen
10:15<supaman>so do sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt (the mount destination can of course be different)
10:15<Solver>oh i see .bi discourages 'domain hacks'... silly them it would be a great source of revenue for a poor country
10:17<intore>supaman: i can see sda and sdb, both of 250GB
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10:19<supaman>intore: what do you mean by "see" ... how do you see them, with fdisk or what? Can't you mount the sdb1 partition now?
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10:20<intore>supaman: i mean that i can see sda and sdb as two hdisk
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10:20<intore>supaman: take a look of df -h. i'll paste it
10:21<intore>supaman: i don't try to mount
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10:22<intore>supaman: http://pastebin.com/R2XrUSrK
10:23<Solver>intore: did you run the mount command suggested earlier?
10:23<supaman>intore: df only shows the partitions that are mounted, so if you havn't mounted them they don't show up
10:23<intore>Solver: am doing it
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10:25<intore>Solver: yeeeees
10:25<intore>supaman, Solver: thanks
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10:25<SynrG>you want to edit /etc/fstab if you always want to mount this
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10:25<Solver>backup /etc/fstab before editing! :)
10:26<intore>SynrG: yes, thank you
10:26<babilen>!uuid
10:26<dpkg>A Universally Unique IDentifier (UUID) is used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire.
10:26<babilen>intore: Use those ^^^ (or LABELS) to identify the filesystems you want to mount
10:26<jrog1965>I love seeing happy people when their problem gets solved.
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10:26<SynrG>interestingly, the underlying problem remains unsolved
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10:27<intore>babilen: ok, i'll do it
10:27<SynrG>why does fdisk -l not list the device?
10:27<babilen>Does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" ? (is it run as root?)
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10:27<matttis>hi, i configured automatic updates using the "unattended-updates" tool. Which time the updates will be made? And is it possible to sent an email if a reboot is required?
10:28<SynrG>babilen: the device in question is /dev/sdb. the problem is the man page says if you don't specify a device it will list all of them. in his case, it only shows /dev/sda, not /dev/sdb.
10:28<Solver>intore: so as was noted, edit /etc/fstab to make entries for these partitions. be careful editing this file
10:28<SaZha>jrog1965, your solution?
10:28<babilen>matttis: Hmm, I would guess so. Have you read the documentation of the unnattended-updates package? I would also assume that it installs a (daily?) cron-job in /etc/cron.daily/ -- But lets investigate...
10:28<SynrG>but the man page is mute on how it determines the list of devices, vaguely only referencing "the OS"
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10:29<babilen>SynrG: Yeah, it should show all of them. Sorry, didn't really follow the issue.
10:29<Solver>I plug in usb devices, etc, all the time and see them in fdisk -l
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10:30<intore>Solver: babilen: fdisk -l gives me information about sda only
10:30<intore>Solver: babilen: fdisk -l sdb gives me information about sdb
10:30<matttis>babilen, I'll have a look. Is every executable in /etc/cron.<period>/ a periodic cronjob?
10:30<Solver>interesting
10:31<supaman>perhaps the /proc/partitions is not showing sdb by some reason
10:31<babilen>matttis: hang on -- that was a mere educated guess. I would recommend to read /usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades/README -- Looks as if it runs as a daemon :-/ -- Lets see
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10:31<Solver>one possibility would be a driver not properly following the spec to report the device
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10:31<babilen>intore: Could you paste the output (with commands!) of "fdisk -l" "fdisk -l /dev/sda" "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" and "blkid" to http://paste.debian.net please? (to http://paste.debian.net !! did I mention http://paste.debian.net ?)
10:32<supaman>intore: if you do cat /proc/partitions, do you see the sdb1 and sdb2 partitions there?
10:32<Solver>babilen: he learnt that lesson earlier :)
10:32<intore>babilen: can i use pastebin?
10:32<SynrG>#308975 looks similar but not identical ...
10:32<babilen>intore: Please use http://paste.debian.net
10:32<SynrG>in this case the user saw no output at all
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10:33<Solver>intore: it should work virtually identically to pastebin anyway. they all pretty much work the same way
10:34<SynrG>fwiw, pastebin.com blows up my web browser :p
10:34<Solver>SynrG: really? interesting. It's always worked fine for my Debian based FF browsers
10:34<SynrG>(iceweasel 9, backport provided by mozilla.d.n for squeeze)
10:35<supaman>works fine for my chromium
10:35<Solver>sorry sorry, iceweasel
10:35<SynrG>could be plugin-related. haven't bothered to test
10:35<Solver>:)
10:35<intore>babilen: do i ave to umount sdb before. now it shows every disk and every partition
10:35<babilen>pastebin.com is just horrible and people who use it stink of elderberries
10:36<Solver>fdisk -l should show all disks and partitions, even those that are not mounted
10:36<babilen>intore: Just try to reproduce the error, describe how you do that and provide the output of the commands I mentioned earlier and "cat /proc/partitions" as well
10:37<intore>babilen: ok but i don't stink of elderberries!
10:37<Solver>I do
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10:39<matttis>babilen, thx, reading that file did help
10:39<supaman>hamsters and elderberries .. muhahaha
10:39<Solver>oh wow Elderberries really do have a bad smell apparently... I always thought it was just a joke
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10:40<babilen>matttis: Great -- Would you mind telling me when updates are run?
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10:41<matttis>via cron I set my debian to reboot 3 times the week: is it possible to only-reboot-if-upgrades-need-that ?
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10:41<intore>babilen: i umounted and rebooted. as in PASTEDEBIAN you can see now it gives me any partition and disk. http://paste.debian.net/163135/
10:42<babilen>In short: You are unable to reproduce the error?
10:42<intore>babilen: before was given only sda, why?
10:42<matttis>babilen, I think everyday is the default
10:43<intore>babilen: no, i reproduced the same situation.
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10:46<intore>babilen: is it possible that after mounting a partition for the first time after formatting, fdisk shwows everything?
10:46<intore>babilen: shows
10:47<matttis>babilen, found something: there's a file /var/run/reboot-required in the case a reboot is required because of updates :)
10:47<babilen>\o/
10:48<babilen>intore: I don't quite follow -- AFAICT "fdisk -l" shows both sda and sdb
10:48<babilen>(so does blkid)
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10:49<intore>babilen: fdisk -l shows sda and sdb now but not before
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10:50<SynrG>intore: totally OT and don't feel obligated to divulge this personal info, but are you actually from Burundi? (you would be the first i've met online who is)
10:50<intore>SynrG: yes, how did you understand it^
10:50<babilen>intore: Before what? Please try to reproduce the problem as it is very hard to debug a problem you do not have at the moment. :)
10:50<intore>?
10:50<SynrG>intore: your .bi domain
10:51<Solver>intore: /whois intore
10:51<intore>SynrG: yes, from burundi, i work here
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10:51<Solver>it's an irc command that provides info on a user
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10:52<intore>babilen: i reproduce the situation umounting sdb1 and sdb2 and i rebooted
10:52<babilen>intore: And if you run "fdisk -l", "fdisk -l /dev/sda", "fdisk -l /dev/sdb", "blkid" and "cat project2501a" what do you see?
10:52<babilen>err
10:53<babilen>The last command should have been "cat /proc/partitions" not "cat project2501a" :)
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10:53<intore>babilen: i'll paste
10:54<SynrG>intore: i welcome you to #debian-offtopic if you would enjoy engaging in more chat purely socially
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10:55<intore>babilen: http://paste.debian.net/163136/
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10:57<intore>SynrG: ok, am there
10:57<babilen>intore: "fdisk -l" *still* lists both /dev/sda *and* /dev/sdb :-?
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10:58<intore>babilen: yes!
10:58<babilen>yes!
10:58<intore>babilen: still
10:58<babilen>So: What's the problem?
10:58*babilen is lost
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10:59<intore>babilen: before mount sdb it wasn't possible to see sdb using fdisk -l
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11:00<babilen>intore: Please reproduce that state! (no idea how)
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11:01<tweek>i just noticed that after an upgrade, samba was running again on my machine after i had previously disabled it with 'insserv -r samba'. what is the proper way to disable a service?
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11:02<nsadmin>is it possible to rename a vg
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11:02<nsadmin>tweek, if you don't want samba, maybe uninstall it
11:02<tweek>nsadmin: yes, see man vgrename
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11:03<nsadmin>otherwise you could look into update-rc.d
11:03<tweek>nsadmin: i want it installed but only launched on-demand in file-sharing situations
11:03<intore>babilen: i tried to do this but it always shows both partitions
11:03<nsadmin>define demand
11:03<tweek>nsadmin: it was my understanding that update-rc.d was deprecated and insserv was the way to go
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11:04<nsadmin>that is possible...
11:04<tweek>nsadmin: i do 'service samba start' when i need it. but i don't want to have it running automatically at boot.
11:04<freko28>Hi all
11:04<nsadmin>the insserv thing must be themake-alike
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11:04<freko28>please, how can I add a PAT rule on ubuntu to forward the tcp port 6000 on the tcp port 8080?
11:04<tweek>insserv does what i want, only this is overridden every time samba happens to be upgraded
11:04<nsadmin>so when you demand, you'll manually start it...
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11:05<nsadmin>yeah, that's not the behavior debian wants... what they do want is, when you disable it, it stays disabled
11:06<babilen>intore: I would say that this is a good thing!
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11:07<tweek>the debian wiki says about update-rc.d and insserv: 'Starting with Debian 6.0, the insserv command is used instead, if dependency-based booting is enabled: '
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11:19<kblin>is there some reasonable way to debug what's going on with iptables masquerading?
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11:37<tweek>ok so i found a bug report from 2009 about my issue, they consider it wishlist :-(
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12:01<giordano>salve a tutti/e ho un problema con un video .mvk mi va a scatti cosa posso fare?
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12:02<jpinx>!it
12:02<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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12:41<celtic_hackr>I've installed my first KVM guests on a stock debian, using stock packages. The guests boot to a date jan 31 2011. THis causes fsck errors. Can anyone help?
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12:59<carlo>ciao
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13:01<educr0w>Hello, I reinstalled the system and now dbus-launch is missing, which pacakge do I need to install to have it? (I'm using squeeze)
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13:02<colin_>identify
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13:08<SynrG>educr0w: dbus-x11, and in general 'apt-file search name-of-file' (if you don't have apt-file, install it. requires 'apt-file update' periodically to refresh the indices)
13:08<educr0w>solved
13:08<educr0w>ohh thanks! I just was going to said I solved installing dbus-x11 :)
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13:09<SynrG>ah. well, nice to have found that fish by chance. but i have just taught you to fish. :)
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13:12<educr0w>SynrG, yes, good to know! I did the same but using google hehe, I'll install apt-file :)
13:13<srtu>hi short (stupid) question, how can i restart rpc.idmapd ?
13:14<srtu>there is nothing in /etc/init.d and "service idmapd restart" doesn´t work either
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13:16<srtu>ah found it
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13:45<kop>SynrG: I don't think apt-file needs "apt-file update" so long as you do an update with apt (aptitude/apt-get) on occasion. (But it can't hurt.)
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13:46<SynrG>kop: i have sometimes found that a search returns zero hits. after an apt-file update, things are fine again
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13:46<SynrG>did not investigate further. what would an apt-get update do for me? i mean, why would apt-file search fail without it, when the files i'm looking for should've been present even in old indices?
13:47<kop>SynrG: Was the apt cache cleared or something? I don't ever seem to have a problem, but I don't pay a whole lot of attention either. Just reading the man page apt-file update fetches the "contents" file, and I think those come with apt-get update (etc) too.
13:47<SynrG>try it. i think you're wrong
13:47<SynrG>there's no reason for apt to fetch Contents
13:48<sney_>apt-file only hassles me for an update when I first install it, but I might just be searching old Contents then.
13:48<sney_>that would be fine in 99% of cases though especially on stable
13:48<kop>SynrG: How about if I just believe you. :-) I'm too lazy to try it. It probably does not matter for me, much, since I run stable.
13:48<SynrG>sney_: still doesn't explain why sometimes when i've failed to update, i still get zero results
13:49<SynrG>as i said, i didn't investigate further why not, but something must be rendering my results against the old Contents invalid over time ...
13:49<sney_>hmm
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13:50<SynrG>obviously i could automate this. just haven't been arsed to do so
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13:52<kop>SynrG: "arsed" is British for "kicked in the arse"?
13:53<SynrG>well, "can't be arsed" is the expression == "can't be bothered"
13:53<SynrG>i've muddled my vernacular somewhat
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14:31<antonio>Why did I get all txt (as in a terminal) after doing a 'netinstall'? Afet entering usr name and pswd ,stays in txt!!
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14:34<gnugr>antonio:you just installed only the base system i guess
14:35<gnugr>antonio: now you must start building enviroment etc
14:36<antonio>Has happenewd several times after doing a netisnt. but why before did not nappened
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14:37<gnugr>antonio:first edit /etc/apt-sources.list and add "main contrib non-free" in lines
14:37<antonio>thnks
14:37<gnugr>antonio: also remove cd/rom lines, you don't need then now
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14:38<gnugr>antonio: and start with "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
14:38<SynrG>another possible way to fail at this is to not actually allow the install to run to completion
14:39<SynrG>in which case you'll be missing more than just X
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14:39<SynrG>(i helped at least one person who did that ... turned out a re-install was more appealing a solution for him than to try to rescue his system from that point, as he kept finding more and more things that weren't installed)
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14:47<thwarted>hey
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14:49<thwarted>i was wondering if anyone could help me out with an issue im havining with ubuntu 11.10
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14:50<devil>thwarted: not here
14:50<devil>this is debian
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14:51<sney_>!ubuntuirc thwarted
14:51<dpkg>thwarted: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
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14:52<thwarted>thanks for pointing me in the right direction
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14:54<slaptman>hello is there a known fix for the lag while watching youtube videos or any flash based video?My mouse cursor lags as well while browsing youtube
14:54<slaptman>(xubuntu)
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14:55<weasel>!ubuntu
14:55<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
14:56<slaptman>who are you??
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14:57<slaptman>ahhh you both boyfriends how sweet
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15:34<realus>hi
15:34<realus>when opening nexuiz: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
15:34<realus>Initializing Video Mode
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16:13<modelo_>HOLA
16:13<modelo_>HELLO
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16:13<SaZha>yes?
16:13<modelo_>WOMN?
16:13<modelo_>woman'
16:13<SaZha>do you have?
16:14<SaZha>want to share?
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16:25<modelo__>Hola ariana
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16:25<modelo__>como estas
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16:28<Alex767>Âñåì ïðèâåò. Ïîìîãèòå! Òîëüêî óñòàíîâèë Äåáèåí, íå çàõîäèò â èíòåðíåò! Ïðè ýòîì, äî óñòàíîâêè, ñòîÿëà openSUSE (ÿ îòôîðìàòèë ðàçäåë è íà íåãî ïîñòàâèë Äåáèåí), ñ íåãî â è-íåò çàõîäèëî íîðàìàëüíî(ñ âèíäû òîæå âñå íîðìàëüíî). Ãóãëèë, íî îòâåòà íå íàøåë. È-íåò ïî Ethe
16:28<Alex767>rnet
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16:32<SynrG>!english
16:32<dpkg>English as a language (and other uses) has plenty of background on wikipedia, however for #debian support, it's the primary and best supported language here. Please use other specific language channels (even if they're very idle), a related mailing list, or your best English here anyway (we'll try to cope).
16:32<youlysses-lt>SynrG: Lol
16:32<SynrG>also, wrong encoding :p
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16:33<SynrG>http://2cyr.com/decode/
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16:35<youlysses-lt>I would like to see an initiative for all the world powers to make it a requirement to teach our kids vulcan. (or Esperanto) :P
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16:37<Alex767>okey. Sorry my bad English, but I hope you are understand me. I has openSUSE and in my openSUSE access to Internet work perfect! I'm delete openSUSE and install Debian. On Debian internet access don't work! Also, on windows Internet access work perfect too. I conected on Ethernet tech. Help!!
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16:41<kop>Alex767: What happens when you run "ifup eth0" as root?
16:42<Alex767>on this time, I in Windows. on ifup eth0 they do many info(ip, ..)
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16:44<kop>Alex767: We need to know what happens in debian. Is this new hardware?
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16:45<Alex767>thanks for you halp me. no, i use old hardware (pentium 4, buy in 2003 yaer and don't upgrade)
16:45<kop>Alex767: How did you install?
16:46<Alex767>how did i install Debian?
16:46<kop>Alex767: Yes.
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16:47<Alex767>I go on offical page, then I choise BitTorrent download and Choise Xfcs based. Also, that named debian-6.0.4-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent
16:48<kop>Alex767: I bet that your problem is non-free firmware, but that's a guess.
16:48<kop>Alex767: We recommend the netinstall, although nothing wrong with the cd1 install.
16:49<kop>Alex767: You _could_ re-install withhttp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/. But that sounds like work. Instead try this....
16:49<Alex767>thanks. Yes in this time, i try this
16:49<kop>!firmware
16:49<dpkg>Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
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16:50<kop>Alex767: See the wiki page. I think the idea is you download the firmware you need onto, say, usb stick and then install the .deb file manually.
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16:51<kop>Alex767: I can't stay. See the following to help figure out what firmware you need.
16:52<kop>!pciid
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16:52<dpkg>The PCI ID helps us work out how to support your PCI hardware. It looks like [abcd:1234] in the output of "lspci -nn". Ask the bot "judd" to match the PCI ID of the device, e.g. "/msg judd pciid 8086:284b". Some hardware uses alternate means of detection: beware of some false positives+negatives. See also <judd-hardware>, <local pciid>. To find out what currently installed kernel modules your hardware is using, run "lspci -k".
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16:52<Alex767>okey. Thanks -kop- for help, I go try this!
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16:58<UYO>eeeyyy :P
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17:02<przemoc>hi, is there any good alternative to synergy (mouse+keyboard sharing across computers) that would work for non-US keyboards in debian? (PL user here and despite having same debian version with same settings on PC and notebook, synergy isn't handling properly [ ] \ keys and alt+{a,c,e,l,n,o,s,z,x} (chars with accents) - http://paste.przemoc.net/synergy/brackets-backslash-and-pl-chars-dont-work/info.txt; well, clipboard sharing with pl ...
17:02<przemoc>... chars is broken too)
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17:07<luninux>luninux user
17:07<nsadmin>is that debian?
17:07<luninux>a fork of debian
17:08<luninux>debian/ubuntu fork
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17:08<luninux>mac/genome 3 aparienc
17:08<luninux>+ gnome 2
17:08<luninux>is great
17:09<nsadmin>glad you like it...
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17:17<saep>przemoc, for me it works, when executing "setskbmap de" on the connecting machine
17:17<gruetzkopf>i somehow accidentally activated numpad mouse
17:17<gruetzkopf>howto disable
17:17<kop>przemoc: You can't go wrong with a serial console, but that's hardware based. You can get a usb->serial converter with lots of ports.
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17:18<kop>gruetzkopf: It would depend on the desktop you're using. (And I've no idea anyway.)
17:18<gruetzkopf>gnome
17:18<kop>gruetzkopf:)
17:18<kop>gruetzkopf: There's #gnome on irc.freenode.net, I think, if you don't get help.
17:18<gruetzkopf>klar doch
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17:21<przemoc>gruetzkopf: `setxkbmap pl` issued on client helped! thank you very much, saep!
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17:21<przemoc>s/gruetzkopf/saep/ :P
17:21<gruetzkopf>:)
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17:25<gruetzkopf>people on #gnome are idlors
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17:43<newb>Hello all! My PHP installation cannot start sessions. It's a new squeeze installation,. The error I receive at PHPMyAdmin installation from Debian: session_start() [<a href='function.session-start'>function.session-start</a>]: open(/var/lib/php5/sess_v015ei95apn93tvlkaodcfjc1ughimg8, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13)
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17:46<saep>newb: what are the ownerships of /var/lib/php5 ? maybe you have to add yourself to a specific system group
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17:52<newb>saep: the permissions: drwx--x--t 2 root root And Apache runs with www-data:www-data
17:52<EmleyMoor>One of my systems can't see nfs from another - it's using autofs, and can see the exported structure under /net, but the actual directories that should contain the files are showing as "No such file or directory" when accessed
17:52<EmleyMoor>Why would that happen?
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17:55<tdjb>hi
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17:56<newb>saep: this is wrong. I think. What could be done this?
17:56<newb>saep: I think others should have write permissions, I'm correct?
17:56<saep>newb: sinc
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17:57<newb>saep: what is sinc?
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17:58<saep>an irc script screws up :S but i really dont know how your php-program should behave... maybe you just have to start it as root :S
17:59<FragByte>newb: did you install php-myadmin from the repositories, or manually ?
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18:01<newb>saep, FragByte: Repositories, in a chrooted squeeze system. I changed only the content of /etc/phpmyadmin/config-db.php to point to my main database server
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18:02<FragByte>i dont know much about php, but the permissions seem kind of strange to me
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18:03<FragByte>obviously php cant access files in /var/lib/php5 as it is only readable by root
18:03<FragByte>try setting it readable for others
18:04<newb>saep, FragByte: Ok, I will add the write permission manually and back here
18:04<FragByte>newb: READ, not write
18:04<saep>ll
18:04<FragByte>try read-only first,
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18:09<newb>saep, FragByte: Read permission do not worked (755), PHPMyAdmin cannot write sessions yet. write permission worked (733).
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18:10<FragByte>newb: glad it worked, but as I'm really not an expert, i would suggest you check that its actually secure to do it this way
18:12<newb>saep, FragByte: Really thanks for your help! It's a local PHP test server, for now will be not a problem, but I think I will install another machine to see if this happens again and check the permissions
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18:13<FragByte>newb: no problem, glad it worked
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18:54<kusanagi>is there a way to use vlc or something like that to play flash videos in browser? ive got an i5, 8 ram, a +100$ nvidia card and a 360p videos still skip frames :/
18:55<kusanagi>glxinfo|grep rendering is yes
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18:55<kusanagi>i installed nvidia drivers via nvidia-kernel-dkms
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18:56<kusanagi>looking for something i also install browser-plugin-vlc, that show among plugins in my icedove
18:56<retrospectacus>kusanagi: you can grab youtubes with clive or youtube-dl, then watch the resulting FLV/MP4 with vlc
18:57<przemoc>saep: synergy again, maybe you know also how to fix (workaround) clipboard sharing, because chars with accents still doesn't work
18:57<kusanagi>yup... i know about that retrospectacus, but i think i managed in the past to use it embedded on the browser automatically
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18:57<kusanagi>its more convenient :/
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18:58<retrospectacus>kusanagi: I hear that. Don't know though. maybe disable the adoble player
18:58<saep>przemoc: i have no idea
18:58<retrospectacus>Adobe*
18:58<kusanagi>my cpu and memory usage does not go up to 100% or anything like that
18:58<kusanagi>it just skip frames... sometimes in small resolutions, and all the time full screen
18:58<kusanagi>:/
18:59<FragByte>kusanagi: i remember a script on userscripts.org for greasemonkey, is that what you looking for ?
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18:59<kusanagi>not sure what to google for :/
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18:59<kusanagi>i tried several querys with not really good results
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19:00<sney_>kusanagi: is that with the free or proprietary nvidia driver?
19:00<kusanagi>propietary sney , nvidia driver is installed via nvidia-kernel-dkms
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19:01<sney_>hmm
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19:01<sney_>is that youtube with flash or html5?
19:01<kusanagi>it seems flash to me, not sure how to check it tho
19:02<sney_>www.youtube.com/html5 will tell you
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19:04<kusanagi>ok, i opted in
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19:04<kusanagi>gonna try
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19:05<kusanagi>should i restart the browser or something?
19:05<kusanagi>it still skip frames!
19:05<sney_>huh
19:05<kusanagi>cpu is not even at 100% or anything
19:05<sney_>too bad there isn't a gpu usage meter or something
19:05<kusanagi>maybe there are videos that are not available in html5?
19:06<kusanagi>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kx66_i3ue4
19:06<kusanagi>im watching this video, its 2012 video :/
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19:07<kusanagi>720p (in flash it has 1024p resolution available tho :))
19:07<chealer>kusanagi: where is CPU usage?
19:08<kusanagi>top, i see 4 processors in another window
19:08<kusanagi>all of them are at 20 or 30% when playing full screen
19:08<kusanagi>1800/8k ram
19:08<kusanagi>window= monitor*
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19:09<chealer>kusanagi: you're checking CPU usage using top(1)?
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19:09<kusanagi>chealer, yup
19:10<chealer>kusanagi: and top is telling you the usage of each "processor" separately?
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19:10<kusanagi>chealer, press 1 within top
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19:13<chealer>kusanagi: I see. you'll see if it's Flash by second-clicking the video. you would get a context menu different than you normally get.
19:13<kusanagi>yup, its html5
19:13<kusanagi>im not sure if its playing even worse than flash
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19:13<chealer>bbl
19:14<kusanagi>its really wtf to have this powerful computer skipping frames like a little girl
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19:16<kimera>!list
19:16<dpkg>kimera: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più.
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19:53<scientes>anyone else have massive problems with connection resets with at&t
19:53<scientes>it seems to only effect certain networks
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20:01<sney_>scientes: is it actually at&t's network? last time I was an at&t internet customer, all the infrastructure belonged to Covad. and that was in at&t's HQ city.
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20:18<shaaf>hi
20:19<shaaf>somebody here?
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20:20<sney_>hi shaaf
20:20<shaaf>hi
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20:20<shaaf>sney, i need some help with flash plugin under debian
20:20<sney_>ok, ask away
20:21<shaaf>im using iceweasel and i cant find some plugin to run this up
20:21<sney_>!adobe flash
20:21<dpkg>Adobe Flash Player is <non-free>. The easiest way to install it is with the flashplugin-nonfree <contrib> package for squeeze and later releases. There is also a flashplayer-mozilla package in <dmm> (non-free section). WARNING: installing flashplugin-nonfree will NOT automatically keep the plugin updated. Read more on http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer . See also <flash amd64>, <bdo>, <dmm>.
20:22<shaaf>ohh
20:22<shaaf>nice sney thanks
20:22<sney_>np
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23:24<eric_>Hi, anyone here?
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23:28<eric_>anybody play games on steam?
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---Logclosed Sat Apr 14 00:00:07 2012