Back to Home / #debian / 2012 / 04 / Prev Day | Next Day
#debian IRC Logs for 2012-04-16

---Logopened Mon Apr 16 00:00:06 2012
---Daychanged Mon Apr 16 2012
00:00-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:03-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:04-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has quit []
00:06-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
00:06-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:06-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:07-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has quit []
00:08-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has joined #debian
00:09-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:09-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has quit []
00:10-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:11-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has joined #debian
00:11-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.26.145] has joined #debian
00:12-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:14-!-flipside [~twisted@188.126.73.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:15-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:16-!-prem [~prem@218.248.25.99] has joined #debian
00:17-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has joined #debian
00:19-!-GNUdog [~GNUdog@114.250.88.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:22-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.26.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:22-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:25-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
00:25-!-flipside [~twisted@c-5fcae455.025-521-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
00:25-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.26.145] has joined #debian
00:26-!-javar [~javar@114.79.51.51] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:26<sney>Silvio, #debian-mentors is the packaging channel
00:26<Silvio>ok thanks
00:27-!-slaptman [~simon@cpe-24-170-35-231.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
00:27<slaptman>can someone please tell me how i can get the volumecontrol to show up in the xfce panel?
00:28-!-Silvio [~scesare@f-d1-232-fw-dip-18437.core.deakin.edu.au] has left #debian []
00:28<slaptman>i have volumed installed and it works but would like the volume icon that allows to turn it up and down
00:28<sney>slaptman, I don't use xfce so I don't know how myself, but I think the xfce site has a support wiki
00:31<slaptman>thanks will look there...what has happened to ubuntu the only problem i have is the flash like on youtube it lags my mouse cursor and video so ugly
00:31-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.73.163] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
00:32<sney>ubuntu?
00:32<sney>also you probably just don't have the adobe flash plugin installed, the package is flashplugin-nonfree
00:33-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@host226-192-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
00:34<slaptman>I just need to find out how to add my account to wheel group so i can be a sudoer
00:34-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@216.251.112.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:35<sney>the sudo group on debian is actually just called 'sudo' instead of 'wheel
00:35<sney>'
00:37-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@host226-192-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
00:38-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.26.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:44-!-slaptman [~simon@cpe-24-170-35-231.stx.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:45-!-CVirus [~GoD@41.130.238.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:46-!-legnaleurc [~quassel@dblab97.csie.ncu.edu.tw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:46-!-jardiamj [~jardiamj@rdbk.p8-245.molalla.net] has joined #debian
00:49-!-slaptman [~simon@cpe-24-170-35-231.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
00:49-!-slaptman [~simon@cpe-24-170-35-231.stx.res.rr.com] has quit []
00:51-!-squid [~nah4@99-89-121-29.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
00:52-!-lukasz_gut [~Lukasz@espcolo-webproxy01.nokia.com] has joined #debian
00:52-!-project2501b [~kot@66.90.69.197] has joined #debian
00:52-!-ikarso [~ikarso@static-212.214.94.164.addr.tdcsong.se] has joined #debian
00:53-!-ikarso [~ikarso@static-212.214.94.164.addr.tdcsong.se] has left #debian []
00:53-!-project2501b [~kot@66.90.69.197] has quit []
00:53-!-project2501b [~kot@66.90.69.197] has joined #debian
00:53-!-squid [~nah4@99-89-121-29.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit []
00:58-!-larkin [~larkin@85.65.17.37.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #debian
00:59-!-larkin [~larkin@85.65.17.37.dynamic.barak-online.net] has quit []
01:00-!-martin_ [~martin@f048228108.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:01-!-flipside [~twisted@c-5fcae455.025-521-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:02-!-debsan__ [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:02-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f048228108.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
01:07-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:08-!-petrol91 [~petrol@nat4-28.ghnet.pl] has joined #debian
01:08-!-jm_ [flier@icc.mindwipe.org] has joined #debian
01:10-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
01:12-!-cinesoft [~cinesoft@122.166.171.35] has joined #debian
01:12-!-cinesoft [~cinesoft@122.166.171.35] has left #debian []
01:13-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-39-1.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:14-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-10.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
01:15-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has joined #debian
01:17-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
01:17<xtick>Tell me where to get the driver built-in graphics chipset Intel G41. proprietary
01:18-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has joined #debian
01:18<scientes>xtick, intel graphics that isn't poulsbo is open source and in the linux kernel
01:18<xtick>by Intel
01:18<scientes>if you are using 2.6.32 you should try the 3.2 backports
01:19<xtick>I'm using the latest version of the kernel
01:20<sney>what does uname -r say
01:21<xtick>3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae
01:22-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:22<sney>ok, well, there is no intel proprietary driver the way there is for ati/nvidia
01:24<jm_>and intel driver in squeeze supports G41 too
01:24<jm_>(and KMS should also work)
01:24<xtick>I apologize. Please write me more. I do not know very well English. To find out)))
01:25-!-petrol [~petrol@nat4-28.ghnet.pl] has joined #debian
01:26-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:27-!-aranax [~aranax@190.148.42.119] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:27<xtick><jm_> I need a driver from Intel. With full support for 3D. To run the Lineage 2
01:28<nevyn>oh the'rs poulso or whatever it is the one that they contracted the design out
01:28<sney>poulsbo is gma500
01:28<sney>but isn't the g41 still just an i915 design?
01:28<sney>3d support is there, should just work out of the box
01:28-!-petrol [~petrol@nat4-28.ghnet.pl] has quit []
01:29<nevyn>yes a G41 is normal i915ish and should Just Work[TM]
01:29<jm_>xtick: the driver in debian has support for 3d too
01:29<jm_>indeed it is
01:30-!-ayaka [~ayaka@218.5.5.242] has joined #debian
01:30<sney>xtick, install mesa-utils and do 'glxinfo|grep direct'
01:30<ayaka>is there a cmd which can search content of files
01:30<sney>ayaka, grep
01:31<jm_>or glark
01:31<ayaka>sney, but there are many files
01:31<sney>ayaka, learn how to make loops in bash
01:31<sney>and how to use awk, sed, etc
01:31<ayaka>sney, I see, for loop ?
01:32<sney>I usually start with a for loop
01:32<sney>for i in ls .; do grep $i 'ayaka'; done
01:32<ayaka>sney I see, but it is too slow to use grep
01:32-!-petrol91 [~petrol@nat4-28.ghnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:32<sney>or I got that backwards but you get the idea
01:33<sney>I don't think you can index file contents, so you had better just wait
01:33-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
01:34-!-bfly_ [~bfly@p57BD678A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
01:34<ayaka>but the problem is there are many files in a dictory or I should read files' names then sent to for i in $(filesname) ?
01:34-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:35<ayaka>btw, how to let for (bash) count 1 to 100
01:35-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
01:35<sney>!abs
01:35<dpkg>[abs] The Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide, an in-depth exploration of the art of shell scripting, can be found at http://tldp.org/guides.html#abs . Packaged for Debian as abs-guide in non-free, ask me about <non-free sources>. See also <bash faq>, <bash pitfalls> or ask in #bash on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net.
01:35<sney>%
01:35<sney>^
01:36<ayaka>I see, so for I think it can't do that
01:36<xtick>I know about 3D support. I have now installed these: X.org xf86-video-intel
01:36<xtick>xf86-video-i740
01:36<xtick>xtick @ Xtic-debian: ~ $ glxinfo | grep direct
01:36<xtick>direct rendering: EC
01:36-!-xtick was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste]
01:36<ayaka>but there are sub-directory in it, does that cmd work
01:37-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has joined #debian
01:37<sney>if you want to explore subdirectories just use find
01:37-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has joined #debian
01:37<jm_>ayaka: either use a bash built-in {1..100} or rely on external tools like seq
01:37<sney>xtick, just the 1 output line is enough
01:37<jm_>ayaka: grep has -r switch
01:37<sney>xtick, also xf86 packages? what debian version is this?
01:38<ayaka>jm_ oh, seq, but c only for (i=0, i++, i<100), bash need you add youself
01:39<jm_>ayaka: no, for a in {1..100}; do echo "ayaka needs to learn $a more things"; done
01:40<ayaka>jm_ it is my first to know such a good idea
01:40<ayaka>jm_ sney thank you very much
01:40-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
01:40<xtick>6.0.4
01:41<sney>xtick, any X packages for debian 6 should only be xserver-xorg-* names, do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
01:41-!-bfly [~bfly@p57BD67E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:41-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:41-!-ayaka [~ayaka@218.5.5.242] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 10.0/20120129021758]]
01:41-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
01:43-!-stk [~stk@66.117.184.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:43<xtick><sney> Yes installed. xserver-xorg-video-intel
01:44<xtick>Video driver Intel i8xx, i9xx for the X.Org graphics performance
01:44<sney>do you also have libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri?
01:46-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
01:46-!-stk [~stk@66.117.184.204] has joined #debian
01:46-!-sxp [~sxt@190.174.46.126] has joined #debian
01:47<xtick>Yes, they are installed.
01:47-!-sxp [~sxt@190.174.46.126] has quit []
01:48<sney>ok and what was the output of the glxinfo |grep direct command?
01:48<sney>you don't need to paste running the command, just the output
01:49<xtick>Yes
01:49<xtick>direct rendering: Yes
01:49<sney>ok. that's full software support. any problems you have from now on are from your game
01:50<sney>you can run glxgears to make sure it's rendering
01:51-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:53-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
01:53-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
01:54-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:54<xtick>On the support forum game Lineage 2 (Russia). They say that they do not support Linux (((And for the other runs.
01:54<xtick>There's little anyone can help ((
01:54-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
01:57<xtick>Prompt IRC Channel Wine
01:58<sney>!wine
01:58<dpkg>Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The beta Wine packages from lamaresh.net are not supported in #debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ http://www.winehq.org/ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>.
01:58-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit []
01:58-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
01:59<xtick><sney> Thank you !!! ;)
02:00-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
02:01-!-omid [~omid@31.58.20.9] has joined #debian
02:01-!-mick [~mick@99-33-248-193.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
02:01-!-mick is now known as Guest486
02:01-!-torjeh [~torjeh@193.157.82.30] has joined #debian
02:02<omid>HI. i'm noob. how can i find what branch of debian my distro is based on ?
02:02-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-216-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:02-!-CVirus [~GoD@41.130.238.102] has joined #debian
02:03<jm_>omid: asking your distro support channel is your best option
02:03-!-fralle [~fralle@static-212.214.94.164.addr.tdcsong.se] has joined #debian
02:03-!-inna [~inna@46.161.150.23] has joined #debian
02:03-!-inna [~inna@46.161.150.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:04<omid>jm_, i'm newbie. i just started xchat and this channel opened
02:04-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
02:04<jm_>omid: well which is your distro then?
02:05<omid>jm_, the DVD is labeled GNU/Linux Parsix 3.7 r2
02:05<jm_>!parsix
02:05<dpkg>Parsix GNU/Linux is a live/installation CD based on <kanotix>. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.parsix.org/ #parsix on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
02:05<jm_>try that
02:05<omid>Thankyou
02:06<jm_>from their release notes: This version has been synchronized with Debian testing repositories as of Feb 7, 2011
02:06<omid>Is it good and stable?
02:06<jm_>we have no idea, you need to talk to them
02:07<omid>Thanks alot
02:10<jm_>no worries
02:11-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:11-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
02:11<omid>jm_, can i install debian and ubuntu .deb packages on my distro ?
02:12<omid>I want to install skype and download it from skype website
02:13<scientes>omid, yes, skype from their website will work, if you have a x86 computer
02:13<jpinx>scientes: skype working in debian stable?
02:14<scientes>oh not stable
02:14<scientes>not that i know of
02:14<scientes>multiarch makes it much more sane
02:14<scientes>it might work in 32-bit stable, but 64-bit stable is less likely
02:14<omid>The guys didnt even added a webbrowser to their distro. i cannot find firefox or chrome or something else
02:14*jpinx has 32bit i386 (Asus eeepc netbook)
02:16<jm_>please continue talking about parsix in their support channel
02:16<scientes>!iceweasel
02:16<dpkg>Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of <firefox>, which replaced Firefox in Debian since Etch. Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. In GNOME, sse gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. See also <iceweasel backports>. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel
02:16<scientes>but yeah this channel only supports debian
02:16<jpinx>omid: go for links2 or similar toget you started
02:17<omid>jpinx, yes i find something called icewesel
02:17<jpinx>scientes: so - what are my options to get skype working in stable on my eeepc?
02:17<scientes>jpinx, well try it, otherwise investigate its dependancies
02:17<scientes>shouldn't be that difficult with 32-bit
02:18<jpinx>ok - I can do that ;) thanks
02:18<scientes>however do realize that skype is spyware
02:18-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:18<jpinx>I presume you are talking about the download from their website?
02:18<scientes>there is no security of your calls and skype has cooperated with china government for example
02:18<Rydekull>omid: http://wiki.debian.org/skype
02:18<scientes>and skype is now owned by microsoft
02:18<scientes>which should be a big red flag
02:18<xtick>Skype is working in the stable branch of Debian is for 32 bit.
02:19<scientes>(not to mention that it is non-free software)
02:19<scientes>skype will also work well with wheezy for 64-bit, cause of multi-arch
02:19<jpinx>scientes: I am unfortunately all-too aware of how naughty skype is, but I have non-techie people to deal with :/
02:19<omid>I just found that skype is not working in my country anymore
02:19<jpinx>scientes: I might run a vm with wheezy and see if it'll behave better in that
02:20<madsci44>when i used skype i would just download the static version and run it out of my home directory - that way it would only have user priveleges - i would never trust to install a system wide deb of it.
02:20<jpinx>madsci44: "statis version" ? explain please
02:20<scientes>jpinx, you probably only have to upgrade a few libraries
02:20<madsci44>static means it is integrated with its own libraries instead of depending on system installed libraries
02:20<scientes>madsci44, static doesn't exist, but yeah you sure can just extract the binary files
02:21<madsci44>scientes: did they stop distributing it?
02:21-!-CVirus [~GoD@41.130.238.102] has quit [Quit: I was somebody who, is no business of yours ...]
02:21<scientes>oh i guess they did have it....
02:21-!-kuhkatz [~kuhkatz@77-24-142-46.pool.kielnet.net] has joined #debian
02:21<scientes>hmm, but user-mode install is fine
02:21<jpinx>madsci44: how to do that - I am assuming it makes a stand-alone skype ?
02:21<xtick><omid> In which country 0_o?
02:21<omid>Iran
02:21<scientes>firefox is distributed as a user-mode-install tarball
02:21<Rydekull>https://www.torproject.org/
02:21<scientes>by mozilla
02:22<jpinx>omid: use a proxy?
02:22<madsci44>I just unzip it in a home directory, and link a button on my panel to the executable.
02:22<scientes>omid, use empathy
02:22<omid>Guys i'm afraid as my distro is based on debian testing. how is the testing ? is it alpha software and thus making it unstable ?
02:22-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
02:22<madsci44>worked perfectly - and if you dedicate a user to it - it wont have access to anyting else in your system
02:22-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:22<nevyn>omid: you really need to ask in the distribution channel for whatever you're using.
02:23-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
02:23<jpinx>madsci44: unzip what?
02:23-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has joined #debian
02:23<jpinx>omid: what os are you running?
02:23<scientes>omid, debian testing is far stabler than most other distros release branches
02:23<omid>at the moment i have GNU/Linux parsix which is based on debian testing
02:24<jpinx>omid: why not run debian stable and make life easy for yourself? ;)
02:24<scientes>at least until the wheezy freeze
02:25-!-micove [~micove@72.187.240.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
02:25<madsci44>well if you download from skype, choose static, you will get a file called "skype_static-2.2.0.35.tar.bz2", if you use tar -jxf skype-static-2.2.0.35.tar.bz2 that will "unzip" it, in the folder it creates is an executable, run that as a normal user and your all set (unless you have 32 bit compatibility issues)
02:26<omid>I have very slow interent (as you know my country has one of the slowest in the world) i cannot download much iso.my downloads usually run at 10kb/s or so. previously i was using pirated copies of windows like most other people in here but i'm afraid of security stuff.thats why i moved to linux and one of my friends gave me GNU/Linux Parsix live dvd which i installed and am using
02:26<jpinx>madsci44: thanks - I'll gve that a whirl ;)
02:26-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has quit [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
02:27<jpinx>omid: 10Kb/s or 10KB/s ?
02:27<scientes>omid, well if you have very slow internet then debian stable is good
02:27<scientes>cause it doesn't change constantly
02:27<jpinx>scientes: I am running stable on a 64Kb7s connection here
02:27-!-tensorpudding [~michael@99.56.161.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:28<jpinx>** 64Kb/s
02:28<scientes>wow, that dial up speeds
02:28<omid>jpinx, Right now my download is running at 10.1 kB/s
02:29<jpinx>omid: that's good - Mine runs at about 8KB/s ;)
02:29<madsci44>scientes: user mode install?
02:29-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
02:29<scientes>Madatnek, i just mean user install, instead of system wide
02:29<jpinx>omid: I suggest you look at the business card netinstall option
02:29<omid>Today i finally made the move and removed windows once and for all and moved to this Linux distro
02:29-!-mlundblad [~marcus@193.12.106.2] has joined #debian
02:30<scientes>jpinx, really? that that at least keep the .debs around?
02:30<omid>I'll switch to pure debian when i learnt my way around with this distro
02:30<madsci44>can that be done with the .deb version?
02:30<scientes>jpinx, i would much more suggest a physical dvd of debian stable
02:30<jpinx>omid: trust me - debian stable is easy compared to wht you are doing now ;)
02:30<scientes>madsci44, with alot of software, yes, but its a PITA
02:31<scientes>i use ar x and tar xvf, but there is a script around that in dpkg-dev
02:31<madsci44>ah. never tried that myself - good to know
02:31<jpinx>scientes: true, but I don't think he has access to the stable on disk
02:31<omid>jpinx, Can i have both debian and Parsix on my laptop?
02:31<scientes>i use apt-cacher-ng so that upgrades get only downloaded once
02:32<jpinx>omid: yes- you can dual boot if you have the partitions sorted out (and enough hard-drive space)
02:32<scientes>omid, yes, in differn't partitions, you can also have a seperate /home partition which is really schweet
02:33<omid>I formatted the disk and created 3 partitions. one swap partition(4gb) about 35gb root and about 440 gb or so of /home
02:33<scientes>omid, so just shave off another 35gb for debian /home
02:33-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
02:33<jpinx>omid: no problem to steal some of that big /home and install debian stable if you want
02:33<scientes>however with msdos partitioning that will be all that is allowed
02:33<scientes>4 primary partitions
02:33-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:34<jpinx>you can share the swap between distros
02:34<omid>Thankyou guys
02:34<scientes>as long as you dont hibernate
02:34<jpinx>omid: you can share /home as well if you like
02:35<scientes>^^good idea
02:35<jpinx>scientes: true - sorry - I'd forgotten that
02:35-!-saep [~saep@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #debian
02:35<scientes>I for one welcome our old overlord: http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120415
02:36-!-ylorenz [~ylorenz@178.32.162.69] has joined #debian
02:37-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbabb6a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
02:40<madsci44>why did they take the tmpfs mounts out of fstab?
02:41-!-ylorenz [~ylorenz@178.32.162.69] has quit [Quit: leaving]
02:42<scientes>madsci44, cause they are deemed to be part of the underlying OS, and not configuration
02:42<scientes>that was a fedora-pushed thing, not sure if its systemd-specific
02:42-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
02:42-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
02:42-!-jardiamj [~jardiamj@rdbk.p8-245.molalla.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
02:42<madsci44>proc is still there
02:42<scientes>well not sure if it was fedora-pushed either
02:42<madsci44>makes no sense to me
02:42<madsci44>and now its buried where
02:42<scientes>they are also putting /tmp as tmpfs
02:43<scientes>which i dont really like
02:43<scientes>cause it breaks flash
02:43<scientes>*flash video
02:45<scientes>http://www.debian.org/intro/about
02:45<scientes>links to a really old page for Linus
02:45<scientes>it should just link to Linus's wikipedia page
02:45-!-anon_ [~anon@113.110.136.195] has joined #debian
02:45<scientes>(if anything)
02:46<scientes>what should i report the bug against?
02:46-!-anon_ [~anon@113.110.136.195] has left #debian []
02:47<madsci44>?
02:47<scientes>this page http://www.debian.org/intro/about links to http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/torvalds/
02:48<madsci44>i guess its his "home page" :)
02:48<jm_>madsci44: probably because of this http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory (i.e. it's not optional)
02:49<madsci44>is proc optional?
02:49-!-dnlrg [~dnlrg@93.146.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
02:49<scientes>madsci44, good rhetorical question :P
02:49-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:50<madsci44>thats a helpful link jm_ - thank you - at least now i can understand what I am disagreeing with ;)
02:50-!-kriller_ [~kriller@2009ds2-gj.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #debian
02:50-!-robbelchen [~quassel@85-127-151-169.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #debian
02:50<scientes>madsci44, see man tmpfiles.d for info on the systemd tmpfile filling mechanism
02:50-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-174-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
02:50<scientes>madsci44, /run is something totally differn't, and a good thing
02:50-!-robbelchen [~quassel@85-127-151-169.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit []
02:51-!-robbelchen [~quassel@85-127-151-169.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #debian
02:51-!-robbelchen [~quassel@85-127-151-169.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit []
02:51<scientes>madsci44, https://lwn.net/Articles/436012/
02:51-!-omid [~omid@31.58.20.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
02:51<madsci44>I like /run - and I like that its in tmpfs out of the box - I dont like burying or obscuring mounts though.
02:51<jm_>good think kernel people are rejecting a lot of idiocy coming from that camp
02:51-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:52-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
02:52<scientes>madsci44, well i think the obscuring tmpfs mounts is a systemd thing, are you running systremd?
02:52<scientes>(you should be)
02:53<madsci44>its a mount isnt it? it shows as such in the mount command, just as proc, root, and so on.. I just dont understand why it should be out of fstab. most likely i have something to learn here..
02:54<scientes>madsci44, you still didn't say if you were using systemd
02:54-!-filePeter [~filePeter@2002:1f12:fd2b:2:48d1:2a7b:11fe:7885] has joined #debian
02:54<madsci44>i have no idea about systemd
02:55<scientes>hmmm, then i dont know
02:55<scientes>i know how systemd does it
02:55<scientes>madsci44, but also, fstab doesn't really cover all the functionality of linux anymore
02:55<scientes>with per-process namespaces
02:59<madsci44>maybe i have been falling a bit futher behind than i am aware
03:00-!-JanC [~janc@ip-213-49-101-165.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:01-!-amartinez [~amartinez@38.Red-80-36-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:02-!-liverwurst [~wurst@p508C23F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
03:02-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
03:02-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
03:03<madsci44>cant fathom how fstab could be inadequate, - what I like about linux is knowing where everything is and how its structured, it helps manageability and that means reliability becuase you can fix, adust easily... when things start to get obscured from standard configurations just so that you cant "toggle" it in some default rcS file, and become inconsistant, it seems like a step back to me.
03:04<madsci44>but probably i have more to learn here.
03:07<scientes>well, few use per-process namespaces
03:07<scientes>and they have been around for a long time
03:08-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbabb6a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:08-!-kriller_ [~kriller@2009ds2-gj.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:08-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:08<scientes>and the systemd tmpfs mounting is pretty clear, even if it isn't fstab
03:09-!-JanC [~janc@ip-213-49-100-67.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #debian
03:09<scientes>its with .mount unit files
03:09-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:09-!-ant__ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice1n1.emea.ibm.com] has joined #debian
03:11<madsci44>I guess this is the "dependancy based boot" thing - i havent had time to read up on any of it
03:12-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has joined #debian
03:12<madsci44>it looks pretty convoluted. where are the ".mount unit files" ?
03:13-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:14-!-Hunger [~Hunger@proactivesec.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:15-!-amartinez [~amartinez@38.Red-80-36-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #debian [Saliendo]
03:16<jm_>madsci44: no, dependency based boot doesn't need that
03:17-!-ges [~gesichtsl@pool-173-62-246-134.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
03:17<scientes>madsci44, .mount is a systemd thing http://wiki.debian.org/systemd
03:18-!-ao2 [~u@cl-35.trn-01.it.sixxs.net] has joined #debian
03:20-!-kriller_ [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has joined #debian
03:21<madsci44>thanks - omg Lennart Poettering -
03:21-!-thomas [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
03:22-!-saep [~saep@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7]
03:22-!-acid__ [~acidpimp_@97-95-144-123.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
03:23-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has joined #debian
03:24-!-DeepDiver [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
03:25-!-magnetic__ [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:26-!-zz_andres is now known as andres
03:27-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:28-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 472] by debhelper
03:30-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-094-217-097-111.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
03:30-!-toabctl [~tom@213.172.126.10] has joined #debian
03:32-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:33-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:34-!-felix__ [~felix@dslb-188-098-181-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
03:35-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@203-217-64-112.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:36-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:36-!-ges [~gesichtsl@pool-173-62-246-134.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
03:37-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:38-!-filePeter [~filePeter@2002:1f12:fd2b:2:48d1:2a7b:11fe:7885] has quit [Quit: leaving]
03:38-!-qord [~qord@a81-14-225-151.net-htp.de] has joined #debian
03:38-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has joined #debian
03:40<xtick>!wine
03:40<dpkg>Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The beta Wine packages from lamaresh.net are not supported in #debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ http://www.winehq.org/ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>.
03:40-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-094-217-097-111.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:41-!-lina [~lina@155.69.205.85] has joined #debian
03:42-!-backbox [~backbox@182.62.140.97] has joined #debian
03:42<backbox>ELLO
03:42-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@124-149-86-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
03:44-!-backbox [~backbox@182.62.140.97] has quit []
03:44-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has joined #debian
03:44-!-kikinovak [~kikinovak@kikinovak.pck.nerim.net] has joined #debian
03:46-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:46-!-__iron [~tobias@ip-141-31-182-26.nat.selfnet.de] has joined #debian
03:47-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:48-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
03:49-!-cargill [~ondra@ip-94-112-189-1.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 478] by debhelper
03:50-!-toto42 [~toto@p5081CA58.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
03:50-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has joined #debian
03:51-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:51-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:53-!-kikinovak [~kikinovak@kikinovak.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
03:55-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:56-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:57-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Client Quit, Bye Everyone!]
03:57-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has left #debian []
03:57-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@216.251.112.134] has joined #debian
03:58-!-Hunger [hunger@proactivesec.com] has joined #debian
03:58-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has quit [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
03:58-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has joined #debian
03:59-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:59-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
03:59-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
04:00-!-reny [~reny@117.20.60.243] has joined #debian
04:01<reny>hi
04:01-!-reny [~reny@117.20.60.243] has quit []
04:02-!-lina [~lina@155.69.205.85] has quit [Quit: lina]
04:02-!-drdanz [~quassel@drdanz.it] has joined #debian
04:05-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:07-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:07-!-dous [~dous@210.24.42.190] has joined #debian
04:07-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has quit [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
04:07-!-dirichle1 [~ffurnari@216.251.112.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:09-!-nico88 [~nico88@host45-156-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
04:09-!-nico88 [~nico88@host45-156-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
04:12-!-cloud [~IRC@HSI-KBW-109-192-000-093.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
04:13-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:13-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:14-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7]
04:17-!-hide [~arnoldas@78.157.71.116] has joined #debian
04:18-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has joined #debian
04:18-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has joined #debian
04:19-!-wintellect [~wintellec@cpc2-nmal8-0-0-cust1262.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
04:19-!-ges [~gesichtsl@pool-173-62-246-134.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:21-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:22-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:23-!-micove [~micove@72.187.240.39] has joined #debian
04:24-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
04:24-!-lhamo [~kj@188.135.144.182] has joined #debian
04:25-!-lhamo [~kj@188.135.144.182] has quit []
04:25-!-chitchat [~guest@218-214-24-203.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:26-!-Havok_Novak [~Havok_Nov@ram94-7-82-232-191-237.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
04:27-!-Havok_Novak [~Havok_Nov@ram94-7-82-232-191-237.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
04:27-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
04:27-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:28-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:28-!-ges [~gesichtsl@pool-173-62-246-134.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
04:28-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.73.163] has joined #debian
04:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 484] by debhelper
04:30-!-ges [~gesichtsl@pool-173-62-246-134.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit []
04:30-!-ges [~gesichtsl@pool-173-62-246-134.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
04:31-!-cipher [~vedran@adsl54po184.tel.net.ba] has joined #debian
04:31-!-cipher is now known as cipher4
04:33-!-scorphus [~scorphus@scorphus.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:34-!-scorphus [~scorphus@scorphus.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:34-!-liegruppe [~felix@vpn205-107.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has joined #debian
04:36-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:37-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:37-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:37-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:38-!-gael [~gael@83.167.43.235] has joined #debian
04:38-!-felix__ [~felix@dslb-188-098-181-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:39-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:39-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:44-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
04:45-!-nestor_ [~smuxi@wan.taric.es] has joined #debian
04:48-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:49-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:49-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
04:50-!-clopez [~clopez@44.18.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
04:50-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-190.telpol.net.pl] has joined #debian
04:54-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@p5795AD8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
04:56-!-nocturnal [~avatar@31-192-228-53-static.serverhotell.net] has joined #debian
04:57<nocturnal>this happens to me a lot and I'm wondering if my understanding of groups and sudo is flawed. because when I uncomment the line in sudoers that allows anyone in group sudo to use sudo and then usermod -G sudo myuser it doesn't help. myuser still can't use sudo.
04:57<nocturnal>it's not until I add a specific line for myuser in sudoers that I can start using sudo.
04:57-!-anbe [~andreas@141.2.185.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:57<nocturnal>I would love to use the group permission thing
04:58<nocturnal>and id myuser shows the user as being a member of group sudo.
04:58<nocturnal>not the primary group of course
05:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 490] by debhelper
05:01-!-kuhkatz [~kuhkatz@77-24-142-46.pool.kielnet.net] has quit [Quit: quit]
05:02-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:02<nocturnal>%#27 didn't work either, 27 being the gid for sudo
05:02-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:03-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@p5795AD8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:03-!-liegruppe [~felix@vpn205-107.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
05:04-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:05-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-188-098-181-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
05:05-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:06-!-imdea [~joel@wifi-83-119.uc3m.es] has joined #debian
05:06-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has joined #debian
05:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:07-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:07-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:08-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:08-!-kblin [~kai@webserv01.biotech.uni-tuebingen.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:08<jm_>nocturnal: even if you specify full path for commands to sudo?
05:10-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
05:11<nocturnal>hmm was going to try that on another server when I noticed the syntax differed on the server where the sudo group worked. %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
05:12<nocturnal>compared to ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
05:12<nocturnal>disregard NOPASSWD
05:12<micove>nocturnal, also you probably want to use "usermod -a -G sudo myuser" .... unless you want to remove all the groups except myuser and sudo
05:12<jm_>that's how it should be - %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL
05:12-!-nemofish [~user@vps711.directvps.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving]
05:13-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@p5795AD8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
05:13-!-harijay [~hari@c-66-31-46-177.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
05:13<nocturnal>thanks for the heads up micove
05:13<nocturnal>the servers where the sudo group isn't working had the syntax (ALL:ALL)
05:13<nocturnal>I'll try changing it
05:13<nocturnal>I'm in the middle of a dist-upgrade
05:14-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:15-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:15-!-nemofish [~user@vps711.directvps.nl] has joined #debian
05:15-!-imdea [~joel@wifi-83-119.uc3m.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:15<nocturnal>also I tried to create a new habit of using sudoers.d but as soon as I uncommented that includedir line I got a syntax error on the line between the last comment and the includedir line.
05:16<nocturnal>cat -e shows no weird unprintables
05:16<jm_>it needs to be commented
05:17<nocturnal>oh
05:18<nocturnal>how strange, but thanks
05:18-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-216-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
05:18-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has joined #debian
05:19-!-chitchat [~guest@220-244-92-230.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
05:20<nocturnal>ok so I'm playing around here to learn and I have commented this line #%sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL which used to work. added the same line into /etc/sudoers.d/sudo.group, chmod 0440 on that file and besides README it's alone in that dir.
05:20-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
05:20<nocturnal>and with this configuration, my user can no longer sudo without password.
05:20<micove>nocturnal, btw did you reboot/logout after the usermod -a? sudo wont see you are a member of sudo until you logout/reboot or run "newgrp sudo"
05:20<nocturnal>oh!
05:21<nocturnal>thank you micove
05:21<nocturnal>I can't believe I forgot that
05:21<micove>just do newgrp sudo
05:21-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:21<nocturnal>but still, I have another server where sudo has worked with %sudo group setting for a long time. and trying to switch from sudoers to sudoers.d makes it stop working.
05:22-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:22<nocturnal>but nevermind that, I'm going to lunch. this was just a short detour I made during a dist-upgrade.
05:22-!-razubu [~razeel@175.157.241.78] has joined #debian
05:22<nocturnal>thanks for all the help
05:23-!-razubu [~razeel@175.157.241.78] has left #debian []
05:24-!-rev [~rev@2607:f2c0:f00f:1401::beef] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:24-!-imdea [~joel@wlap006.it.uc3m.es] has joined #debian
05:24-!-razubu [~razeel@175.157.241.78] has joined #debian
05:24-!-rev [~rev@2607:f2c0:f00f:1401::beef] has joined #debian
05:24-!-razubu [~razeel@175.157.241.78] has quit []
05:24-!-razubu [~razeel@175.157.241.78] has joined #debian
05:24-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:25-!-razubu [~razeel@175.157.241.78] has quit []
05:26-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:28-!-cento [~ignorante@ppp-76-238.29-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
05:31-!-wojtala [~wojtas@77-254-78-198.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #debian
05:32-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:32-!-xharx_ [~xharx@port-92-201-42-241.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:34-!-Guest486 [~mick@99-33-248-193.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
05:35-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:36-!-shipcode [~shipcode@busabos.projectx.ph] has joined #debian
05:36-!-shipcode [~shipcode@busabos.projectx.ph] has quit []
05:36-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:37-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:38-!-valera [~valera@213.87.138.241] has joined #debian
05:38<valera>valera
05:38-!-valera [~valera@213.87.138.241] has quit []
05:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:38-!-pleb2 [~pleb2@213.121.242.198] has joined #debian
05:39-!-xharx_ [~xharx@port-92-205-42-189.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #debian
05:40-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:40-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:41-!-pleb2 [~pleb2@213.121.242.198] has quit []
05:41-!-__iron [~tobias@ip-141-31-182-26.nat.selfnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:41-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:41-!-mick [~mick@99-33-248-193.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
05:42-!-armani [~armani@cm218-252-220-28.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
05:42-!-mick is now known as Guest500
05:42-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
05:42-!-ant777 [~jay@unc-gw.aqa.com.ru] has joined #debian
05:43-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:43-!-mirko [~mirko@host50-48-static.45-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
05:44-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:44<mirko>ciao
05:44-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:45-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:45-!-kriller_ [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
05:46-!-mentor [~mentor@92.39.192.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:46-!-ant777 [~jay@unc-gw.aqa.com.ru] has left #debian []
05:47-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:47-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:48-!-anbe [~andreas@calzone.ae.cs.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #debian
05:48-!-saep [~saep@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #debian
05:49-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
05:49-!-kriller [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has joined #debian
05:50-!-madsci44 [~Tom@184.151.61.73] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
05:51-!-ayaka [~ayaka@120.32.38.34] has joined #debian
05:51-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:52-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
05:54<ayaka>does Pacemaker only do for cluster not for load balance,ldirectord do for load balance
05:58-!-andrey [~andrey@62.212.207.195] has joined #debian
05:58-!-andrey [~andrey@62.212.207.195] has quit []
06:02-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:03-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:03-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has joined #debian
06:05-!-arinov [~administr@178.238.76.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:06-!-kriller [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:06-!-kriller [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has joined #debian
06:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:07-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:08-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:08-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:08-!-pingvin [~pingvin@28-136-241-92.pppoe.dyn.broadband.blic.net] has joined #debian
06:08-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has joined #debian
06:09-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:09-!-pingvin [~pingvin@28-136-241-92.pppoe.dyn.broadband.blic.net] has quit []
06:10-!-pitelpan [~quassel@cust-30-162.on6.ontelecoms.GR] has joined #debian
06:13-!-bfly_ is now known as bfly
06:13-!-rouhallah [~rouhallah@80.191.168.16] has joined #debian
06:13-!-rouhallah [~rouhallah@80.191.168.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:16-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has joined #debian
06:21-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:22-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:23-!-mirko [~mirko@host50-48-static.45-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:23-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:23-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:27-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
06:27-!-gaffa [~unknown@95.209.243.34.bredband.3.dk] has joined #debian
06:28-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has joined #debian
06:31-!-dous [~dous@210.24.42.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:32-!-epheo [~epheo@ALyon-653-1-133-249.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
06:32-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:33-!-legnaleurc [~quassel@dblab97.csie.ncu.edu.tw] has joined #debian
06:33-!-rubs [~ruben@193.51.120.163] has joined #debian
06:33-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:33-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:34-!-kriller [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:34-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
06:34-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:35-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
06:36-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:38-!-epheo_ [~epheo@ALyon-653-1-164-245.w90-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:39-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit []
06:41-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:41-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:42-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:42-!-azatoth_work [~azatoth@193.138.102.193] has joined #debian
06:48-!-berto [~berto@espcolo-webproxy01.nokia.com] has joined #debian
06:50-!-antonio [~antonio@host158-115-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
06:50-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:51-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:51-!-hychen [~hychen@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:51-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:52-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
06:52-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:52-!-marco_craveiro [~marco@cpc17-hatf7-2-0-cust90.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:52-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:53-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:53-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:53-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:54-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:54-!-xtick [~xtick@77.35.159.195] has quit [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)]
06:54-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:57-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:57-!-bbac [~bbac@c-dad2e555.033-32-6e6b7011.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
06:58-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
06:58-!-bbac [~bbac@c-dad2e555.033-32-6e6b7011.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit []
06:59-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:59-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:00-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:01-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.73.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:01-!-Solver [~robert@atlas.opentrend.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:02-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:03-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: buh bye!]
07:05-!-magnetic__ [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:05-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@p5795AD8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:08-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:09-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:11-!-foolano [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:12-!-saulo [~chatzilla@177.98.213.212] has joined #debian
07:12-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-174-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: bau]
07:13-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:13-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has joined #debian
07:15<saulo>hello. I have mysql running inside a schroot environment. I can't connect at database from apache: I receive "can't connect" for localhost and if I put the machine IP I receive "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111". Somebody can help me?
07:16-!-janos_ [~janos@50-171-222-85.adsl.verat.net] has joined #debian
07:17-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #debian
07:17-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:17<ayaka>saulo where is the apache
07:18-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:18-!-imdea [~joel@wlap006.it.uc3m.es] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
07:18-!-mateusz [~mateusz@5ED2AED8.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
07:19-!-wojtala [~wojtas@77-254-78-198.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:19-!-mateusz [~mateusz@5ED2AED8.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit []
07:20<ayaka>saulo can you paste netstat -plaunt| grep mysql
07:21-!-perlwizard [~x@95.158.11.2] has joined #debian
07:21-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:22-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:24-!-mateusz [~mateusz@5ED2AED8.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
07:25-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:25-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:26-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
07:27<saulo>ayaka: I have 3 machines: (1) mysql and ruby systems (2) with Apache + PHP5.2 (3) with Apache + php 5.3 . All with schroot and needing connect with the databases..
07:28<saulo>ayaka: At main machine, the paste: tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* OUÇA 18873/mysqld
07:28-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-216-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:28-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.216] has joined #debian
07:28<jm_>note that DB connect is typically done via a PF_UNIX socket (unless configured differently), so it usually fails with chroot
07:29-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:29<ayaka>saulo but all the serve is in the chroot?
07:29-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:30<saulo>jm_, ayaka: This link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224 told me tyo try "ln -s /bin/true /sbin/initctl " inside the chrooted environment, but do not worked... jm_, how can I configure different the server?
07:30<ayaka>jm_ wow, I first time know it can do that,btw if the apache and mysql is in the same pc, will they use that type socket
07:31<saulo>ayaka: I can't run PHP 5.2 and 5.3 at same Apache, then I have different chroot systems
07:31<jm_>ayaka: normally they do yes, see for example /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
07:32<saulo>ayaka: And I needed update the MySQL installation. Do it at main server it's a problem, since it runs an old version of Debian and upgrade all system it's impossible for now
07:32-!-antonio [~antonio@host158-115-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
07:33-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has joined #debian
07:33<ayaka>saulo does the apache and mysql is in the same pc
07:33<ayaka>mysql don't receive all connect except localhost by default
07:34<jm_>saulo: it's more likely the client needs to be reconfigured, not server - but alternatively you could provide the socket file in your chroot too
07:34<saulo>sacarlson: I can't do this, because all machines need the database server.
07:34<ayaka>jm_ i see, so it is not a problem
07:35-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@s5377b589.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #debian
07:35-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:35<saulo>ayaka: last message was for you, sorry
07:35-!-armani [~armani@cm218-252-220-28.hkcable.com.hk] has joined #debian
07:36-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has quit []
07:36<saulo>jm_, ayaka: I tryed change the client settings, but I received the message: "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111"
07:36-!-kriller [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has joined #debian
07:36-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has joined #debian
07:37<saulo>jm_: socket file? how?
07:37-!-kriller_ [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has joined #debian
07:37-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:37<jm_>saulo: unfortunatelly that error doesn't tell me much, but perhaps try with a simpler tools firts, like mysql CLI tool
07:37-!-WizardNumberNext [~marek@cpc8-acto1-2-0-cust493.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
07:37<jm_>saulo: i.e. bind mount, or have the daemon listen in the right dir
07:38-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@195.110.154.34] has quit [Quit: leaving]
07:38<WizardNumberNext>hello
07:38<ayaka>saulo so apache is not in the same pc as mysql,you need you config mysql ,but you had better follow jm_ first
07:39<jm_>well if it's not on the same system then it must be accessed via tcp/ip anyway and chroot shouldn't play a role, as long as name resolution etc. is working
07:41-!-kriller [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:41-!-svennb [~svennb@h62-92-119-31.q-free.com] has joined #debian
07:42-!-carandraug [~carandrau@proxy3.library.nuigalway.ie] has joined #debian
07:44<saulo>jm_, ayaka: I changed the "bind-address" config from MySQL from 127.0.0.1 to 192.168.254.253 (the local server IP) and worked!! This is a problem?
07:44<Ichabond>ah yes
07:44<Ichabond>127.* is your loopback
07:44-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving]
07:44<Ichabond>which means only your local machine can connect to the mysql database
07:44-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
07:45-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:45-!-gaffa [~unknown@95.209.243.34.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:45<Ichabond>don't forget you also need to create a user with appropriate rights to the database coming from the apache server
07:46-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:46<jm_>saulo: well it means other users on your LAN can access it too, up to you
07:46-!-kriller_ [~kriller@nat.nordija.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:47-!-ernesto [~ernesto@web21.amm.unipg.it] has joined #debian
07:47-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar]
07:47<saulo>Ichabond: I don't understood. If I (from PHPMyAdmin, for example) add permissions at database, I can connect from LAN machines using some client software, even with bind-address like this, or I'm wrong?
07:47-!-jesus [~jesus@252.Red-79-150-40.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:47<ayaka>jm_ i think he should allow others connected,need edit another place too
07:49<Ichabond>saulo: yes
07:50-!-cipher4 [~vedran@adsl54po184.tel.net.ba] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:50<saulo>ayaka, km_, Ichabond: If I can add permissions directily inside MySQL database (and my user have permissions for any host there!), why I needed change the bind-address property?
07:50-!-xharx__ [~xharx@port-92-205-171-34.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #debian
07:51<ayaka>saulo you need let mysql's userhas permission to connect from lan,2 you need config mysql to let it hear from lan
07:53-!-C0-Kerja [~ronald@118.99.75.3] has joined #debian
07:54-!-C0-Kerja [~ronald@118.99.75.3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:57-!-xharx_ [~xharx@port-92-205-42-189.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:58-!-a7x [~a7x@213.87.134.201] has joined #debian
07:58-!-a7x [~a7x@213.87.134.201] has quit []
07:59-!-mesutcan [~mesutcan@78.178.159.169] has joined #debian
07:59-!-randolph [~randolph@host8-203-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
07:59-!-randolph [~randolph@host8-203-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #debian []
08:01-!-clopez [~clopez@44.18.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:02-!-Guest500 [~mick@99-33-248-193.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:02-!-tlyu_ [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has joined #debian
08:02-!-bittin [~bittin@c213-100-108-76.cust.tele2.se] has joined #debian
08:02-!-tlyu [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:02-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:03-!-kilelme [~kilelme@120.168.0.216] has quit [Quit: going to coffe shop]
08:03-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:04-!-skyegg [~olavo@189.125.242.3] has joined #debian
08:04-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:05-!-ernesto [~ernesto@web21.amm.unipg.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:07-!-tlyu [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has joined #debian
08:07-!-stooj [~stooj@saffron.stooj.org] has joined #debian
08:08-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:08-!-stooj [~stooj@saffron.stooj.org] has quit []
08:08-!-muammar [~muammar@dhcp27.chm.unipg.it] has joined #debian
08:09-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:09-!-bobweaver [~joseph@173-86-139-34.dsl1-field.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:10-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:11-!-tlyu_ [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:12-!-gutoyr [~gutoyr@189.61.230.100] has joined #debian
08:15-!-stooj [~stooj@saffron.stooj.org] has joined #debian
08:15-!-tlyu_ [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has joined #debian
08:17-!-tlyu [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
08:18-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:18-!-alecharp [~adrien@tru75-1-81-57-70-118.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
08:19-!-alecharp [~adrien@tru75-1-81-57-70-118.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
08:20-!-chitchat [~guest@220-244-92-230.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:20-!-gutoyr [~gutoyr@189.61.230.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:20-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:21-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:21-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:22-!-ryland [~ryland@ip-178-201-56-134.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
08:22-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:22-!-erol [~erol@mar92-19-78-248-89-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
08:22-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7]
08:22-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:24-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:24-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:25-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-216-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
08:26-!-hide [~arnoldas@78.157.71.116] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:26-!-erol [~erol@mar92-19-78-248-89-121.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:26-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has joined #debian
08:27<xun>do you know of any utility where I can define both source and destination port on a UDP packet (cant find how to define source port in man nc)?
08:27-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:28-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-30-109.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
08:28-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.123.216.170] has joined #debian
08:29-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:29<jm_>xun: check if hping can help you
08:29-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-181-127.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
08:30-!-tgb69m [~tgb69m@164.79-161-205.customer.lyse.net] has joined #debian
08:30<xun>alright, thx
08:30-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:31-!-hide [~arnoldas@78.157.71.116] has joined #debian
08:31-!-tgb69m [~tgb69m@164.79-161-205.customer.lyse.net] has quit []
08:31<xun>seems to be able to do the job, thanks
08:32-!-dokzlo13 [~dokzlo13@176.101.5.53] has joined #debian
08:32<dokzlo13>lol
08:33-!-ypwong [~anthony@123.123.197.81] has joined #debian
08:33-!-dokzlo13 [~dokzlo13@176.101.5.53] has quit []
08:33-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8-dev]
08:35-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:36-!-hggdh [~hggdh@pool-96-226-214-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
08:36-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:37-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:39-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 496] by debhelper
08:41-!-anddan006 [~anddan006@213-66-207-96-no161.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #debian
08:41<anddan006>hello
08:41-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.73.163] has joined #debian
08:41-!-SLot [~SLot@177.19.245.194] has joined #debian
08:42-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:43-!-jm_ [flier@icc.mindwipe.org] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting]
08:43-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:43-!-ring0 [~ring0@dslb-084-059-140-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
08:44-!-Luxaie [~Luxaie@19.99.97.84.rev.sfr.net] has joined #debian
08:45-!-Luxaie [~Luxaie@19.99.97.84.rev.sfr.net] has quit []
08:45-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has joined #debian
08:45-!-floe__ [~flo@e179012176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
08:46-!-one [~fabio@187.64.15.19] has joined #debian
08:46-!-dave_ [~dave@194.244.1.44] has joined #debian
08:46-!-anddan006 [~anddan006@213-66-207-96-no161.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar]
08:47-!-one [~fabio@187.64.15.19] has quit []
08:48-!-nightsh [~nightsh@188.26.55.91] has joined #debian
08:49<dave_>Hi all I have a problem with multicast on my debian host squeeze I connected 2 hosts via cross cable on eth3. I tried ssmping from one host to ssmpingd on seconds host but I'm receiving unicast packets only.
08:50-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 502] by debhelper
08:50-!-slideplayer [~slideplay@ARennes-257-1-184-254.w2-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
08:50<dave_>Someone can help me to understand where is the problem ?
08:50-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
08:51-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:51-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:52<ayaka>as I know multicast can't cross switch
08:52-!-Nik05 [~Nik05@s5377b589.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:52<dave_>ayaka, this 2 hosts are connected via cross cable
08:52-!-naiv [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-213-75.w109-208.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:52-!-naiv_ [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-213-75.w109-208.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:52<movl>ayaka: he has two hosts conncted via crossover
08:53-!-q66 [~q66@213.191.105.214] has joined #debian
08:53-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:53<ayaka>movl ok I don't know what is crossover
08:54<movl>a way to cable your Ethernet
08:54-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:54<movl>as opposed to straight
08:54<ayaka>movl oh I got it
08:54-!-naiv [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-156-59.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
08:54-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:54-!-naiv_ [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-156-59.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
08:54-!-_Qman [~Q@host-238-160.m-link.be] has quit []
08:55<ayaka>dave_ how dovyou send multicast package
08:55<dave_>using ssmping
08:55-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:56<dave_>I tried to force multicast packets using both ssmping -I eth3 and forcing the address with a static route : route add -host 232.43.211.234 dev eth3
08:56-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:57-!-bike [~bike@ti0128a380-dhcp0811.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
08:57<dave_>reading ssmping man page ssmping use 232.43.211.234 address group
08:57<ayaka>it can cross switch,but not route,I am sorry,but not vlan also
08:57-!-nodiscc [~mrzorg@cel44-1-78-229-72-174.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:58<movl>dave_: what are you trying to accomplish?
08:58<ayaka>dave_ does the remote use the same addreaa
08:58<dave_>movl, I want to test mutlicast connection
08:59<dave_>ayaka, on remote host is running ssmpingd
08:59-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
08:59<dave_>this is the deamon to test multicast using ssmping tool
08:59-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:59-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:59<ayaka>dave_ i haven't used it,but they should use the same addreas
09:00-!-simondaemon [~simon@g225108230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
09:00-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:00<movl>ayaka: why? O_O
09:00-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:01<ayaka>movl as i know,multicast work that way
09:01<dave_>ayaka, yes I know but I can't understand why I'm receiving just unicast replies
09:01-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-30-109.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:01-!-prem [~prem@218.248.25.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:02<ayaka>movl the sent to addres and listening group address must be same
09:02<dave_>I don't receice any multicast packets from remote host
09:02<simondaemon>hi there, where can I find the linux startup msgs at debian stable? tried dmesg and kern.log..but none of them shows anthing about "vnc" which was mentioned by the startup-scripts of linux for sure.. can anyone help me? (please)
09:02-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:02<movl>dave_: try a sniffer
09:02-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-30-109.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
09:02<dave_>movl, I'll try
09:03<ayaka>movl do you what cause his problem now?
09:03-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:03<movl>?
09:03-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:04<ayaka>simondaemon you try /etc/init.d/vncdaemoname status
09:04<ayaka>movl why dave_ can only recive unicast package
09:04-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:05<movl>ayaka: I don't know (yet)
09:05<simondaemon>ayaka: thanks for the advice, doesnt help, got "vncserver" (guess its an alias) that doesnt support "status" ...
09:05-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:06<movl>dave_: what network card do you have?
09:06<ayaka>movl ok, please tell me as soon as,you know
09:06<movl>ayaka: you will read it here
09:06<dave_>movl: on both hosts I can see : 15:05:22.891639 IP 192.168.61.77 > igmp.mcast.net: igmp v3 report, 2 group record(s)
09:06<dave_>but no replies
09:06<dave_>unicast:
09:06<dave_> 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
09:06<dave_> rtt min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.105/0.118/0.177/0.025 ms
09:06<dave_>multicast:
09:06<dave_> 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
09:06-!-dave_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste]
09:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:06-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-181-127.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:06<simondaemon>ayaka: (its alias vor vnc4server I guess)
09:06-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:06-!-dave_ [~dave@194.244.1.44] has joined #debian
09:07<dave_>ops sorry for flood
09:07<dave_>movl, broadcom
09:07<ayaka>simondaemon that is right
09:07<dave_>movl: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet
09:07-!-pingvin [~pingvin@92.241.152.165] has joined #debian
09:08-!-one [~fabio@187.64.15.19] has joined #debian
09:08<ayaka>dave_ can you get receive from ssmping ssmping.uninett.no
09:08<simondaemon>but my problem was that it didnt startup, though its mentioned during startup and grep cannot find it at dmesg or kern.log :-/
09:08<pingvin>ee
09:08<dave_>ayaka: recv failed: Connection refused
09:08<pingvin>debian rules
09:08<ayaka>simondaemon what will print when start
09:09-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:09<dave_>ayaka: I think ssmping.uninett.no is just for example
09:09-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:09-!-pingvin [~pingvin@92.241.152.165] has quit []
09:09<ayaka>dave_ yeo, but it maybe work,you can't connect to internet?
09:10-!-one [~fabio@187.64.15.19] has left #debian []
09:10<dave_>yes I can
09:11-!-user137 [~user137@79-101-131-166.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #debian
09:11-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-30-109.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:11-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:11<ayaka>dave_ can you ping that address
09:12-!-user137 [~user137@79-101-131-166.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit []
09:12-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:12<dave_>ayaka: yes
09:12<simondaemon>ayaka: http://pastebin.com/TgKMQLhP (but thats not when started at startup of my box.. thats when root.. though i know root shouldnt do that.. right?)
09:13-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:13<dave_>ayaka: but I think there is no way to test multicast on internet :)
09:13-!-debio [~daniele@host3-198-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
09:13<blast007>technically, I think multicast can work across routers, but the routers likely need to be set up to support it
09:13-!-torjeh [~torjeh@193.157.82.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:13-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:14<ayaka>simondaemon no you should type ./vnc4serve start in that solution
09:14<blast007>(and probably need to be higher grade routers, not typical home routers)
09:14<blast007>in any case, 'ssmping ssmping.uninett.no' isn't going to work
09:14-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-30-109.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
09:14-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:14<movl>I'm not certain it can work without routers, actually
09:14-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:15-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
09:15<ayaka>blast007 I don't think so,beacuse route isolate brocast domain
09:15-!-fr33k [~fvb@546B3C97.cm-12-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
09:15-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:16<blast007>ayaka: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2/ip/configuration/guide/1cfmulti.html
09:16<simondaemon>ayaka: well.. that seems to be an invalid command... what should it get me? (root shouldnt execute a vnc server... right?)
09:16<blast007>movl: I think I've done multicast disk imaging over just a switch, though I didn't inspect the packets to ensure it didn't fall back to a unicast.
09:17-!-stk [~stk@66.117.184.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:17-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:17<ayaka>simondaemon /etc/init.d/vnc4serve start
09:17<movl>blast007: depends on the switch, but dave_ wants to do it over crossover cable
09:17<blast007>yaeh
09:17-!-houms [~houms@wsip-98-191-169-18.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #debian
09:17<movl>and AFAIK, it can't be done like this
09:18-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:18<simondaemon>ayaka: yes - already did it, told me that its invalid, as you can see here: http://pastebin.com/5UgUvGX7 (okay - not invalid - buit another syntax)
09:18<ayaka>blast007 you may currect,but i think in the same vlan,switch won't stop broacast
09:19<blast007>ayaka: if it's saying "routing", then it's crossing subnets
09:19<movl>+1
09:19-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:19<ayaka>simondaemon you don't config vnc
09:20<SynrG>using ninjahelper from backupninja, I want to configure rdiff-backup using host_type=local, but have run into problems with Very strange. Maybe it *started* with a process that had it open prior to the reboot, though?
09:20-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has joined #debian
09:20<SynrG>argh, mispaste
09:20<ayaka>blast007,no i said switch,as movl siad that
09:20<blast007>ayaka: if there's no router, then your VLANs can't talk to each other (unless you have a layer 3 switch, which can do routing)
09:21<movl>so you can't do multicasting without routing, in short
09:21<ayaka>dave_ yep,it won't work,sorry
09:21-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:21<SynrG>using ninjahelper from backupninja, I want to configure rdiff-backup using host_type=local, but have run into problems with #623343. i need some sort of workaround.
09:22-!-qerter [~qerter@218-173-65-178.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #debian
09:22<blast007>dave_: was there some advantage to using multicast when you're dealing with a one-to-one connection?
09:22-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-210-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
09:22<simondaemon>ayaka: i thought it had standardconfig (!) cannot find a configfile, google told me look at /etc/.. there is nothing..
09:22<SynrG>oops, not host_type, but dest_type=local
09:22-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:22<ayaka>blas5007 i knew,but I don't talk about route,just switch,I means as I know,switch won't block broacast package
09:22-!-chitchat [~guest@218-214-24-203.people.net.au] has joined #debian
09:22<dave_>blast007: corosync work just to multicast
09:23<dave_>to create cluster I have to use multicast
09:23<ayaka>simondaemon I don't how to config vnc,but you can search with debian in keyword
09:23-!-nautiqx [~nautiqx@brln-4db916a6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
09:23<SynrG>i tried dest_host=localhost, dest_user=some-appropriate-user, but even after it claims to have set up ssh properly for access, it complains that rdiff-backup is not set up properly (strange, since it's talking to rdiff on the localhost. you would think that automatically this would be a compatible configuration)
09:23<blast007>dave_: have you tried with a switch in between?
09:23<dave_>I tried this : I create a ssh tunnel tun1, I forced multicast address to route to tun1 interface and run ssmping again
09:23<dave_>over tunnell works!
09:23<dave_>damn
09:23-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:24<simondaemon>ayaka: okay thanks anyway.. will try more... bye..
09:24<dave_>why don't work over 2 interfaces connected by cross cable ?
09:24<ayaka>I am sorry for I can't help you more
09:24<movl>dave_: because multicast means one to many
09:24-!-nautiqx [~nautiqx@brln-4db916a6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit []
09:24<dave_>blast007: yes using switch it don't works
09:24<movl>and a NIC doesn't know how to do that
09:24-!-lduros [~lduros@dhcp0641.nic.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #debian
09:25-!-zerocool [~zerocool@host187-102-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
09:25<ayaka>but it don't care how many listener in group as I think
09:25<dave_>movl, but there is no sense
09:25<dave_>tun1 is a virtual NIC as my eth3
09:25<WizardNumberNext>movl, dave_, multicast is one to many, but you have to want to listen to it first
09:26<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I'm using ssmpingd to listen
09:26<dave_>and ssmping to test it
09:26<SynrG>particularly, ninjahelper complains "incompatible versions of rdiff-backup" ... wtf?
09:26<dave_>with my tun1 it woks !
09:26<WizardNumberNext>on physical interface?
09:26<ayaka>dave_ maybe ssh will route for you
09:26-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:26<dave_>it no works on my eth3 on cross cable neither on my eth0 via switch
09:27<dave_>ayaka, route ?
09:27<WizardNumberNext>dave_, ayaka, you need multicast router to route multicast
09:27-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:27<dave_>mmm
09:27<WizardNumberNext>dave_, yes route - from source to destination(s)
09:28<blast007>WizardNumberNext: currently, he's just trying it over a cross-over cable. So that would not work?
09:28-!-lindi- [~quassel@tachyon.hut.fi] has joined #debian
09:28-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:28<dave_>WizardNumberNext, so what I have to do to solve my problem ? I have no experience on multicast I'm just learning it now :P
09:28-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:28<WizardNumberNext>dave_, singing for multicast isn't enough, each router on way from source to destination have to implement multicast router as well, so you would get what was multicasted
09:29<dave_>I don't think ssh does any routing for my multicast
09:29-!-zerocool [~zerocool@host187-102-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #debian []
09:29<dave_>why over my ssh tunnel it works ?
09:29-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:29<WizardNumberNext>blast007, cross/straight - it doesn't matter as long as his NIC is able to talk with other end of cable - most modern NIC do crossing/uncrossing in hardware
09:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 508] by debhelper
09:30<ayaka>yep,it called auto choose
09:30<dave_>WizardNumberNext, layer 1 can't is the problem I can ping other interface
09:30<blast007>I mean, he's using a direct link between two hosts - no routers involved
09:31<blast007>so does he *need* a multicast router involved, or should it work without any routers?
09:31<WizardNumberNext>dave_, cause could be as simple as host on which ssh server do run is directly behind multicast router, and you are have non-multicast in router between you and multicast source
09:32-!-houms [~houms@wsip-98-191-169-18.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
09:32-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:32-!-floe__ [~flo@e179012176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:32<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I don't understand
09:32-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:32<WizardNumberNext>dave_ layer1 have nothing to do with packets or frames - it is plain physical stuff, like cables, plugs, sockets, physical side of NIC etc
09:32<dave_>my tun is over the same interfaces that don't works in multicast
09:33-!-sreeni [~sreeni@115.115.74.130] has joined #debian
09:33<WizardNumberNext>dave_, to be able to receive mutlicast every router between you (recipient) and source have to implement multicast router all of them have to route this particular multicast to you
09:33-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:34-!-sreeni [~sreeni@115.115.74.130] has quit []
09:34-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:34<dave_>there are no router between my hosts
09:34<dave_>WizardNumberNext, there are on the same lan
09:34<WizardNumberNext>dave_, multicast is IP thing, so tun should work
09:34<gnugr>SynrG:does this help you to configure rdiff-backup:http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/rdiff.htm
09:35-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:35<WizardNumberNext>so it should work, maybe tun configuration isn't exactly as it should be
09:35<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I'm tring this way : I create a static route on my server
09:35<dave_>this : 232.43.211.234 192.168.61.78 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 0 0 eth3
09:36<WizardNumberNext>you said you are able to receive it by different means - do you receive it on any physical interface or only via ssh?
09:36-!-Psych0Shawn0 [~dru@cpe-69-204-153-56.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
09:36<dave_>my 192.168.61.78 is the server with ssmpingd and 192.168.61.77 is the host where I ssmping from
09:36<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I receive on ssh interface only
09:37-!-melmothX_ [~melmoth@93-137-159-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
09:37<WizardNumberNext>dave_, I am not sure, if this would do the trick but..
09:37-!-Psych0Shawn0 [~dru@cpe-69-204-153-56.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit []
09:37-!-melmothX_ [~melmoth@93-137-159-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit []
09:38-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:38<WizardNumberNext>I do run upnp and it do receive data through multicats and I have different route
09:38-!-pitelpan [~quassel@cust-30-162.on6.ontelecoms.GR] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:38<WizardNumberNext>from 'route -n' 224.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 br0
09:39<WizardNumberNext>I think you should ignore my flags
09:39-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-210-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:39-!-Xavi [~xavi@163.Red-83-59-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:39<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I create a static route form my mcast address to my host
09:39<dave_>but no multicast replies
09:40<WizardNumberNext>did you check iptables?
09:40<dave_>no iptables
09:40<dave_>there is no iptables module loaded
09:41<blast007>dave_: was the route configured on the host that would be sending or receiving the multicast packets?
09:41<WizardNumberNext>give me sec - I would see some how-to and I would get back to you
09:41<dave_>blast007, receving :P one sec and I configure the route on the other host :P
09:42-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #debian
09:43<dave_>uff I created the same route on both hosts but no multicast replies :(
09:43-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
09:44<dave_>If I change route to the host 77 ( where I ssmping other host ) forcing tun1 interface it works
09:44<SynrG>gnugr: the point of ninjahelper is to automate the whole process, including ssh key creation and authorization. it fails rather strangely. if i wanted to manually configure the whole thing, i'd have followed doc like that, yes, but i had hoped ninjahelper would simplify the process.
09:44<dave_>If I can configure corosync to work with tunnel interface I can solve my problem using ssh tunnel :P
09:44-!-cento [~ignorante@ppp-76-238.29-151.libero.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:45-!-motsword [~motsword@202.108.199.20] has joined #debian
09:45<SynrG>gnugr: since in addition to setting up this one host, this exercise serves as an evaluation of the software, based on my experience so far, i give it a failing grade. maybe i missed something obvious, so i'm reviewing my settings again to see if i chose something strange ...
09:45<SynrG>it should not be this hard :/
09:47<blast007>dave_: corosync has a mailing list that you might want to post to.
09:47<dave_>blast007, I know my problem is multicast
09:47<dave_>btw I try to post on corosync mailing list
09:48<WizardNumberNext>dave_, add route to multicast on NIC you want to receive multicast
09:48<WizardNumberNext>dave_, it is: route add -net 224.0.0.0 netmask 240.0.0.0 dev eth0
09:48<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I have already done
09:48<WizardNumberNext>then it should work
09:49<WizardNumberNext>so I do not understand, why you do not receive it
09:49-!-streuner [~streuner@mnhm-5f74e99a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:49<dave_>WizardNumberNext, if I add route forcing tun interface it works but if my route is to eth3 interface it doesn't work :(
09:49<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I don't understand too
09:50<WizardNumberNext>dave_, maybe sysctl related problem
09:50-!-streuner [~streuner@mnhm-5f74e99a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
09:50<dave_>I'm on google since 3 days to find a solution or a cause of my problem
09:50<WizardNumberNext>can do sysctl net.ipv4 for me and paste it somewhere
09:50<dave_>one sec
09:51<dave_>mmh : error: "Invalid argument" reading key "net.ipv4"
09:51-!-liangliang [~lianglian@123.138.72.123] has joined #debian
09:51<gnugr>SynrG:read this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=335966
09:52-!-liangliang [~lianglian@123.138.72.123] has quit []
09:52-!-Alverid [~none@190.66.70.156] has joined #debian
09:53<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I do sysctl -A | grep net.ipv4 :P http://pastebin.com/HBUrYcPN
09:55-!-manel [~EMROG@189.157.162.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:55<WizardNumberNext>dave_, it is definitely not up to sysctl
09:55<WizardNumberNext>so one is exluded
09:56<WizardNumberNext>can you completely tear down NIC?
09:56<dave_>mmh how ?
09:56<WizardNumberNext>I mean with turing off NIC and unbinding driver?
09:56<dave_>ifdown is enough ?
09:56<WizardNumberNext>no
09:57<dave_>no the driver is the same of eth0 and I connected remotely
09:57<WizardNumberNext>best way it find out on which 'slot' do NIC reside
09:57<dave_>I'm using bnx2 for all my 4 eth
09:57<WizardNumberNext>and remove it in /sys/bus/pci/devices/xxxx:xx:xx:xx.x/remove
09:57<dave_>mmm
09:58<WizardNumberNext>so this way you would remove only one card
09:58<dave_>I'll try
09:58<dave_>one sec
09:58-!-motsword [~motsword@202.108.199.20] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
09:58<WizardNumberNext>lspci, find out interrupt and port address and compare it with lspci
09:59<WizardNumberNext>then take all address (PCI address - host:bus:slot:device.function) and use it to remove it
09:59-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.123.216.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:59<WizardNumberNext>you can unbind it from driver as well, but I do not remember where to do it
10:00<WizardNumberNext>then use any PCI device to rescan bus and it would find card, which you just removed and bind driver to it automatically
10:00-!-clopez [~clopez@fanzine.igalia.com] has joined #debian
10:01<WizardNumberNext>dave_, I am using it, as I do change hardware in servers from time to time and I never turn them off
10:01-!-cento [~ignorante@ppp-76-238.29-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
10:01<WizardNumberNext>I am going to make some tea, would be back very soon
10:03<dave_>WizardNumberNext, ok
10:03<SynrG>gnugr: uh? old, closed bug?
10:03-!-fike [~fike@187.37.204.175] has joined #debian
10:03-!-magnetic [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
10:03<dave_>WizardNumberNext, how can I remove them ? just echo 1 > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/0000:01:00.0/0000:02:03.0/0000:08:00.0/0000:09:00.0/remove ?
10:03<SynrG>anyway, i have moved on
10:04<dave_>WizardNumberNext, damn :P I wrong interface I removed eth4
10:05-!-chibiace [~chibiace@60-234-140-140.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #debian
10:06-!-coreGrl [~a@host186-106-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
10:06<coreGrl>hi
10:07<coreGrl>I've installed wheezy on a notebook after and half hous or after a while the computer simply turn off.. how can undestrand why?
10:07<WizardNumberNext>dave_, exactly as you say
10:07<WizardNumberNext>bad
10:08<WizardNumberNext>almost exactly
10:08-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:09<WizardNumberNext>dave_, echo 1 >/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:12.0/remove like that just make sure about numbers
10:09-!-qord [~qord@a81-14-225-151.net-htp.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
10:09<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I removed eth2 :P luckly was unused
10:09-!-foolano [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:10<WizardNumberNext>ifconfig would show you interrupts and ports
10:10-!-manel [~EMROG@189.157.162.171] has joined #debian
10:10<WizardNumberNext>with lspci -v you would get info about interrupts and ports
10:10-!-backbox [~backbox@182.63.92.195] has joined #debian
10:10-!-backbox [~backbox@182.63.92.195] has quit []
10:10<WizardNumberNext>dave_, you need to be carefull, when working remotely
10:10<dave_>WizardNumberNext, found with ethtool -i
10:11<dave_>I remove right eth3
10:11<WizardNumberNext>whatever - as long as you can do what you need to tool have no bigger meaning
10:11<WizardNumberNext>now rescan PCI bus
10:11<WizardNumberNext>use any pci device for it
10:12<WizardNumberNext>just replace remove with swap
10:12<WizardNumberNext>with rescan
10:12<WizardNumberNext>sorry
10:13<WizardNumberNext>effect of thinking about few things at the same time (very usual for me - I do tend to do at least 5 thing in same time)
10:14<dave_>WizardNumberNext, ok I rescanned eth3
10:14<WizardNumberNext>I am reading multicast how-to, administer two servers, getting rid of windows, trying to help you and finally do some general stuff on dekstop
10:14<WizardNumberNext>good
10:15<WizardNumberNext>now do whatever is need for ip and or bridge (if you are using one) and add routes and we'll see if it would work
10:17<dave_>ok just one sec
10:17-!-NightMonkey [~NightrMon@nightmonkey.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:18<chibiace>coreGrl, have you tried squeeze on your notebook?
10:18-!-dvs [~dvs@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
10:18<dave_>ok so I configured my ip on eth3, added static route for mcast address to dev eth3 and done ssmping over other host
10:19<dave_>but no multicast replies just unicast :(
10:19<coreGrl>chibiace, yes but it doesn't load correctly my video card
10:20<WizardNumberNext>dave_, tcpdump on this interface, maybe something else is preventing you
10:20<WizardNumberNext>without promisc
10:20-!-magnetic [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:21<WizardNumberNext>I do believe it is -p switch
10:21<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I try a simple tcpdump -i eth3 ?
10:21<WizardNumberNext>dave_, tcpdump -p -i eth3
10:21<dave_>ok
10:21<WizardNumberNext>man tcpdump
10:21<WizardNumberNext>sorry
10:21<chibiace>coreGrl, whats the model of the graphics card?
10:22<WizardNumberNext>dave_, yes it is
10:22<WizardNumberNext>-p
10:22<dave_>WizardNumberNext, ok
10:22<WizardNumberNext>dave_, I just checked
10:22<coreGrl> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1)
10:22<dave_>WizardNumberNext, as previous test i can read only one igmp packet :
10:22<dave_>6:21:51.091825 IP 192.168.61.77 > igmp.mcast.net: igmp v3 report, 2 group record(s)
10:22-!-headyadmin [~headyadmi@pool-108-23-214-223.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: headyadmin]
10:23-!-vrkalak [~vrkalak@66-87-7-60.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #debian
10:23<WizardNumberNext>dave_ did you run smmping again (or whatever it is called)
10:24-!-janos_ [~janos@50-171-222-85.adsl.verat.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
10:24<dave_>WizardNumberNext, yes and I can see on tcpdump output these igmp packet only
10:24<WizardNumberNext>dave_ maybe it is up to configuration of this piece of software?
10:24<dave_>and other unicast transmisisons
10:24-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.2.117] has joined #debian
10:24<dave_>WizardNumberNext, this ping works fine as is on tun1
10:24<WizardNumberNext>dave_, configuration, please?
10:24<dave_>now I try to create my tun again and run tcpdump on tun interface
10:25<dave_>WizardNumberNext, no conf just ssmpingd on 78 host and my ssmping 192.168.61.78 from my .77
10:25-!-slideplayer [~slideplay@ARennes-257-1-184-254.w2-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
10:26<WizardNumberNext>ok
10:27-!-fr33k [~fvb@546B3C97.cm-12-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:28-!-ayaka [~ayaka@120.32.38.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:28-!-ayaka [~ayaka@120.32.38.34] has joined #debian
10:28<dave_>WizardNumberNext, this is so strange
10:28<WizardNumberNext>dave_, so on tun1 it is working, but not on eth3
10:29<WizardNumberNext>if so, then this peculiar as it could be
10:29<dave_>when i ping my tun1 iface the tcpdump output is like previous output when I ping my eth3
10:29<chibiace>coreGrl, why wouldnt your graphics card work with squeeze? you did a system update and installed the latest nvidia drivers i suppose?
10:29<dave_>the difference is that on tun1 works but on eth3 no :(
10:29-!-mlundblad [~marcus@193.12.106.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:31-!-tensorpudding [~michael@99.56.161.74] has joined #debian
10:31<WizardNumberNext>dave_, yes it is very peculiar - I do remember what tun/tap is and this just make huge noise and mess in my brain - thinking that it works on tun and not eth hurts
10:32-!-lostson [~lostson@cpe-107-10-102-196.new.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
10:32-!-knoppix_ [~knoppix@ip-109-47-246-98.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
10:33-!-tnevrismanco [~alumne@191.Red-88-19-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
10:33-!-tnevrismanco [~alumne@191.Red-88-19-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
10:33<chibiace>coreGrl, with wheezy does the system shutdown cleanly with the progress bar/text or shut off instantly
10:33-!-knoppix_ is now known as Guest531
10:33-!-Guest531 [~knoppix@ip-109-47-246-98.web.vodafone.de] has quit []
10:34<coreGrl>chibiace, it's shut off istantly..just wonder if there is a log about that
10:35-!-NightMonkey_ [~NightrMon@173-164-139-193-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian
10:36-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
10:37<chibiace>coreGrl, does it feel hotter then usual?
10:37<coreGrl>it doesn't seems
10:37-!-naiv__ [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-286-234.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
10:37-!-naiv___ [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-286-234.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
10:38-!-backbox [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has joined #debian
10:38-!-backbox_ [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has joined #debian
10:39-!-backbox_ [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has quit []
10:39-!-naiv [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-156-59.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:39-!-naiv_ [~quassel@AAnnecy-552-1-156-59.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:40<WizardNumberNext>dave_, I run out of ideas. I am not expert if it comes to multicast (I simply do understand networks), so I don't think I could be of any help any more - I tried all what came to my mind
10:40<WizardNumberNext>I would love to resolve this problem, but I failed here, sorry
10:40-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
10:41-!-backbox_ [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has joined #debian
10:41<dave_>WizardNumberNext, ty anyway
10:41<WizardNumberNext>dave_, you are welcome
10:41<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I'll try to post on corosync mailing list
10:41-!-backbox_ [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has quit []
10:41<chibiace>coreGrl, checked logs in /var/log/ ? i would be inclined to think instant shutoff is temperature related this could be due to say the fan not going off or even using the wrong driver for the graphics card
10:41-!-XayOn [~XayOn@85.251.10.69.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
10:41<WizardNumberNext>dave_, you can try LinuxqQuestions.org
10:42<WizardNumberNext>they have good forum
10:42<dave_>ok rt
10:42<dave_>ty
10:42<coreGrl>chibiace, uhm I'm using gnome 3, there is not a way to add a temperature meter ?
10:42-!-EmleyMoor [phil@topdeck.tinsleyviaduct.com] has quit [Quit: Back soon - restarting client]
10:42-!-EmleyMoor [phil@topdeck.tinsleyviaduct.com] has joined #debian
10:43-!-backbox_ [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has joined #debian
10:43-!-pos [~mark@ppp-54-185.grapevine.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
10:43-!-backbox_ [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has quit []
10:43-!-shinigami [~azrael@79.134.224.5] has joined #debian
10:44-!-pos [~mark@ppp-54-185.grapevine.net.au] has joined #debian
10:45-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:46-!-deadmund [~ed@th136-2.cs.wm.edu] has joined #debian
10:46-!-xompyes__ is now known as xompyes
10:47-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-206-93.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
10:47<chibiace>coreGrl, i use sensors-applet on gnome2, but it seems to be available for gnome3, i managed to get it to display nvidia and hddtemps aswell though i am using the nvidia driver
10:49-!-vladuke [~vladuke@87.226.144.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:49<chibiace>ah yes nvidia-settings can tell gpu temp too
10:49-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-188-174-29-168.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
10:52-!-magnetic [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
10:52-!-jordanm [~jordan@li111-251.members.linode.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:55-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@89.159.166.251] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
10:56-!-peanutbutter_jelly_time [~peanutbut@host86-131-125-228.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
10:56-!-lbcadden3 [~larry@97-89-164-245.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #debian
10:57<peanutbutter_jelly_time>ello
10:58-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@89.159.166.251] has joined #debian
10:58-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:59-!-liverwurst [~wurst@p508C23F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
10:59-!-deadmund [~ed@th136-2.cs.wm.edu] has quit [Quit: Bye]
11:00-!-loka [~loka@90.169.186.33] has joined #debian
11:01-!-a_landim_xhkl [~Andre@poseidon.cais.rnp.br] has joined #debian
11:01-!-debio [~daniele@host3-198-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:02-!-mgr342 [~mgr342@83.230.233.45] has joined #debian
11:02<backbox>ello
11:03<loka>elloloooo
11:03-!-lbcadden3 [~larry@97-89-164-245.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:04-!-Radius [~quassel@85.173.67.190] has joined #debian
11:04-!-ivo888 [~stomanata@46.10.94.174] has joined #debian
11:04<ivo888>hi
11:04<ivo888>can somebody explain me
11:04<ivo888>when i install some program
11:04-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-30-109.ip105.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:05<ivo888>how can i see in which category is it?
11:05<ivo888>for example now i install xfe, and start it only with K menu-> run command
11:06<dave_>WizardNumberNext, I'm going mad ! I changed my ip address from 192.168.61.77/27 to 192.168.0.1/24 and now it works!
11:07<dave_>WizardNumberNext, this is unbeliveble ! why my /27 does't work ?
11:07<dave_>now I retry again to switch back to my /27 address
11:07<WizardNumberNext>dave_, do this network was both on sender side and recipient side?
11:08<dave_>WizardNumberNext, of course !
11:08<WizardNumberNext>so, I do not understand
11:08<dave_>WizardNumberNext, me too
11:08<WizardNumberNext>but sometimes you would run into such sensless problems
11:08<WizardNumberNext>I did many times
11:09-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.123.217.106] has joined #debian
11:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 514] by debhelper
11:10-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has joined #debian
11:10-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
11:11-!-dotovr [~kumatsuga@180.241.113.172] has joined #debian
11:11-!-jesusprubio [~fadsfadsf@83.165.219.240] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
11:14-!-rivon [~rivon@e-76-47.eduroam.fit.cvut.cz] has joined #debian
11:16-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has joined #debian
11:16<chibiace>ivo888, do you mean the application menu categories?
11:16-!-ant777 [~jay@unc-gw.aqa.com.ru] has joined #debian
11:16-!-ant777 [~jay@unc-gw.aqa.com.ru] has left #debian []
11:18-!-zyga_ [~zyga@89.Red-88-8-253.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
11:19-!-dous [~dous@cm66.kappa98.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #debian
11:19-!-NightMonkey [~NightrMon@nightmonkey.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Body blow! Body blow!]
11:20<ivo888>yes yes. in K menu in which categorie is it
11:20-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:20-!-ayaka [~ayaka@120.32.38.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:21-!-att [~att@187.114.128.80] has joined #debian
11:21-!-salvin [~salvin@host228-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
11:22<heikkila>ivo888, K menu? It sounds you are using KDE, which is a desktop environment, and Xfce is another desktop environment. You have to logout of KDE and change session to Xfce
11:23<ivo888>no no. program xfe (file manager)
11:23<heikkila>oh, sorry
11:23<ivo888>no problem :)
11:23-!-ant__ [~anton@gbibp9ph1--blueice1n1.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
11:23<ivo888>now i don`t know where is it and only start it with run...
11:23-!-headyadmin [~headyadmi@pool-108-23-214-223.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
11:24-!-kriller_ [~kriller@2009ds2-gj.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #debian
11:24<chibiace>ivo888, generally if its a game it would be under games, and say gimp would be under graphics, not everything has an entry and i dont know if kde and gnome menus interact 100 percent
11:24-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has joined #debian
11:25-!-Radius [~quassel@85.173.67.190] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - ????????????? ??????. ?????.]
11:26<babilen>ivo888: It really depends on whatever KDE does with programs that belong in the "Categories=System;FileManager;" category. (xfe.desktop) -- I am not entirely sure, but there might even be a way to rebuilt the KDE menu (maybe a relogin is needed (shouldn't though))
11:26<ivo888>it is possible. when i install xchat, skype, wicd etc all they go to internet menu
11:26<babilen>They probably do
11:27-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
11:27<ivo888>yes. it is there :)
11:27<ivo888>thank you
11:27<ivo888>but now you tell me about this
11:27<ivo888>it`s not cool for every program to ask here where to find it
11:28<ivo888>so, is there way to check and see where is some program?
11:28<ivo888>no no. no relogin. xfe is there :)
11:28<ivo888>may be K menu change it dinamicly :)
11:28<babilen>Ah, ok. I was about to suggest to file a bug :)
11:29<ivo888>:)
11:29<ivo888>now i have other question....
11:29-!-dotovr [~kumatsuga@180.241.113.172] has left #debian [Ex-Chat]
11:29<babilen>Yes, it should change it dynamically. I am not aware of a good way to check where a program ends up in advance (for kde menus)
11:29<chibiace>pardon my ignorance but does kde have an application search in the menu>
11:29<babilen>nfc
11:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 520] by debhelper
11:30<ivo888>in xfe i try to open pdf file
11:30<ivo888>it show it with icon for acrobat
11:30<ivo888>but when i click on it
11:30<ivo888>it ask me what to use
11:30<babilen>!enter
11:30<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
11:30<ivo888>but don`t show me menus in K menu
11:30<ivo888>what to do?
11:31-!-mgr342 [~mgr342@83.230.233.45] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
11:31-!-simondaemon [~simon@g225108230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:31-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@89.159.166.251] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
11:32<chibiace>ivo888: if you dont have a pdf reader then perhaps you will need to install one?
11:32-!-drdanz [~quassel@drdanz.it] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
11:33<chibiace>ivo888: okular comes in the kdegraphics package
11:33-!-NightMonkey_ [~NightrMon@173-164-139-193-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Body blow! Body blow!]
11:33-!-loka [~loka@90.169.186.33] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
11:33-!-drdanz [~quassel@drdanz.it] has joined #debian
11:33-!-toabctl [~tom@213.172.126.10] has quit [Quit: adios]
11:34-!-coreGrl [~a@host186-106-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
11:35<ivo888>no no. i have. when i use koqueror i starts. but in xfe don`t start
11:35-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7]
11:35-!-antonio [~antonio@87.13.213.187] has joined #debian
11:35-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has joined #debian
11:36<ivo888>yes. i have okular :) on my desktop there is 1 pdf and it opens with okular
11:36-!-jibel [~j-lalleme@89.159.166.251] has joined #debian
11:36-!-chitchat [~guest@218-214-24-203.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:36<ivo888>but in xfe ask what to use and give me my home folder
11:36-!-manel [~EMROG@189.157.162.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:37-!-floe__ [~flo@e179021018.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
11:37<ivo888>konqueror if need something to open (unknown) give me my K menu
11:37-!-SLot [~SLot@177.19.245.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:37<chibiace>ivo888: have a look for okular in /usr/bin/ perhaps
11:38<ivo888>thank you. it is in this location
11:39-!-antonio [~antonio@87.13.213.187] has quit []
11:39-!-famelix [~famelix@187.79.51.170] has joined #debian
11:39-!-famelix [~famelix@187.79.51.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:39-!-rivon [~rivon@e-76-47.eduroam.fit.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Bye]
11:39-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has quit []
11:39-!-backbox [~backbox@182.63.115.83] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 509] by debhelper
11:40-!-Roderlei [~roderlei@faye.complexopequenoprincipe.org.br] has joined #debian
11:40<chibiace>ivo888: any particular reason you want to use xfe?
11:40-!-gnugr [~gnugr@79.167.86.141] has joined #debian
11:41-!-grandie [~thomas@p4FD4EE38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
11:41-!-gudmund [~gudmund@cm-84.212.131.178.getinternet.no] has joined #debian
11:41-!-Octagons [~Octagons_@129.24.162.8] has joined #debian
11:41-!-Octagons [~Octagons_@129.24.162.8] has quit []
11:41-!-manel [~EMROG@189.157.162.171] has joined #debian
11:43-!-antonio [~antonio@87.13.213.187] has joined #debian
11:43-!-gudmund [~gudmund@cm-84.212.131.178.getinternet.no] has quit []
11:44-!-jesus_ [~jesus@190.Red-95-120-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
11:44-!-fugit [~keith@199.2.242.199] has joined #debian
11:45-!-Roderlei [~roderlei@faye.complexopequenoprincipe.org.br] has left #debian [Saindo]
11:45-!-afuentes [~afuentes@95.61.119.171] has joined #debian
11:45-!-SLot [~SLot@177.19.245.194] has joined #debian
11:46<afuentes>some unicode chars does not show in iceweasel. How do i know what fonts are those?
11:47-!-swo [~swo@ip-95-223-139-208.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Kein bock mehr.]
11:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 516] by debhelper
11:50-!-jesus [~jesus@252.Red-79-150-40.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:51-!-whodare_ [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has joined #debian
11:51-!-grandie [~thomas@p4FD4EE38.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:51-!-Roderlei [~roderlei@faye.complexopequenoprincipe.org.br] has joined #debian
11:51-!-__iron [~tobias@ip-141-31-182-26.nat.selfnet.de] has joined #debian
11:52-!-zonka [~zonka@95.239.177.149] has joined #debian
11:52-!-cloud [~IRC@HSI-KBW-109-192-000-093.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:52-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:52-!-zonka [~zonka@95.239.177.149] has quit []
11:53-!-berto [~berto@espcolo-webproxy01.nokia.com] has quit [Quit: bye]
11:53-!-peanutbutter_jelly_time [~peanutbut@host86-131-125-228.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:53-!-grandie [~Grandad@p4FD4EE38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
11:54-!-fike [~fike@187.37.204.175] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
11:56-!-Roderlei [~roderlei@faye.complexopequenoprincipe.org.br] has left #debian []
11:56-!-Busy [david@teeger.vrynet.org] has quit [Quit: leaving]
11:59<babilen>afuentes: Please do *not* cross-post
11:59-!-faw0 is now known as faw
11:59-!-hele [~hele@212-149-220-248.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
12:01-!-f8l [~f8l@77-255-7-152.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #debian
12:01-!-zyga_ [~zyga@89.Red-88-8-253.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
12:01<afuentes>babilen, to be fair, i only cross-post after not receiving an answer :p
12:02-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.2.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:04-!-NIN [~NIN@p5DD28B96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:04<chibiace>afuentes: what characters?
12:04<babilen>chibiace: PILE OF POO
12:06<afuentes>chibiace, im reading this page http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6162484/why-does-modern-perl-avoid-utf-8-by-default
12:06<afuentes>it has all kind of unicode chars :/
12:06-!-muammar [~muammar@dhcp27.chm.unipg.it] has quit [Quit: imagine a big red swirl here..!]
12:07-!-salvin [~salvin@host228-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:07-!-saep [~saep@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7]
12:09-!-grandie [~Grandad@p4FD4EE38.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:09<chibiace>afuentes: like the one voted 468 under answers? i got no idea man
12:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 508] by debhelper
12:11-!-qerter [~qerter@218-173-65-178.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:12<afuentes>yup chibiace for example :)
12:13-!-alienux [~theXman@41.250.212.202] has joined #debian
12:14-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has joined #debian
12:16-!-NIN [~NIN@p5DD28B96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: NIN]
12:16-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@h87-96-232-93.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
12:16-!-NightMonkey [~NightrMon@nightmonkey.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:20-!-att [~att@187.114.128.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:21-!-babilen [~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
12:22-!-whodare_ [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:23-!-salvin [~salvin@host228-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
12:25-!-saulo [~chatzilla@177.98.213.212] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
12:27-!-Ricki [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has joined #debian
12:29-!-wintellect [~wintellec@cpc2-nmal8-0-0-cust1262.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving]
12:30-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:33-!-rain [~rain@12.143.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #debian
12:33-!-rain [~rain@12.143.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has left #debian []
12:36-!-norto [~norto@mur75-2-82-238-172-176.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
12:36-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has joined #debian
12:37-!-norto [~norto@mur75-2-82-238-172-176.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
12:38<ivo888>chibiace, it look better than konqueror :)
12:38-!-headyadmin [~headyadmi@pool-108-23-214-223.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: headyadmin]
12:38-!-gael [~gael@83.167.43.235] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:38-!-afuentes [~afuentes@95.61.119.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:39-!-rivon [~rivon@glados.sh.cvut.cz] has joined #debian
12:39-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.9.246] has joined #debian
12:39-!-mentor [~mentor@92.39.192.179] has joined #debian
12:39-!-saulo [~chatzilla@177.42.176.119] has joined #debian
12:40-!-mentor is now known as Guest551
12:40-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@g225086080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
12:42-!-carandraug [~carandrau@proxy3.library.nuigalway.ie] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
12:43-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@omegacube.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:43-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@92.103.115.30] has joined #debian
12:43-!-Guest551 is now known as mentor
12:43-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has joined #debian
12:45-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.20.20] has joined #debian
12:45-!-dinamo583 [~dinamo583@186.178.223.123] has joined #debian
12:46-!-dinamo583 [~dinamo583@186.178.223.123] has quit []
12:47-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.9.246] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:48-!-Nebular [~quassel@196-215-113-229.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:49-!-att [~att@187.114.128.80] has joined #debian
12:49-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
12:50-!-akulah [~akulah@90.163.210.131] has joined #debian
12:50-!-dvs [~dvs@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: The light at the end of the tunnel is the 5:15 train]
12:50-!-nodiscc [~mrzorg@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
12:50<chibiace>ivo888: kde has pretty extensive theming options, have you considered an alternative kde file manager, it would intergrate better.
12:51-!-XeonBloomfield [~XeonBloom@n02.satfilm.pl] has joined #debian
12:53<ivo888>dolphin is the same as konqueror
12:53-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@124-149-86-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
12:54-!-cyril [~cyril@gai69-4-82-242-166-4.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
12:54<ivo888>both are not good for me. so i type file manager kde in sinaptic and found xfe and i love it ;)
12:54-!-cyril [~cyril@gai69-4-82-242-166-4.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
12:55-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
12:55-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A907B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:56-!-one42day [~one42day@94.253.108.132] has joined #debian
12:56-!-one42day [~one42day@94.253.108.132] has quit []
12:57-!-nicholi [~nicholi@rrcs-76-79-196-34.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving]
12:57<chibiace>ivo888: there is also krusader
12:59<ivo888>lets see :)
12:59-!-headyadmin [~headyadmi@gateway.mirada.com] has joined #debian
12:59-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.35.162] has joined #debian
13:00-!-Zingiest [~Zingiest@host6-193-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
13:01-!-Zingiest [~Zingiest@host6-193-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
13:02-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.20.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:03-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
13:06-!-mentor [~mentor@92.39.192.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:08-!-Nebular [~quassel@196-215-113-229.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #debian
13:09-!-marco [~marco@ppp-97-45.21-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
13:09-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-10.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:10-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
13:13-!-labradors [~smatrinid@16-230-11-190.reverse.tevisat.net] has joined #debian
13:13-!-labradors [~smatrinid@16-230-11-190.reverse.tevisat.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:14-!-mentor [~mentor@92.39.203.169] has joined #debian
13:14-!-mentor is now known as Guest558
13:15-!-nicholi [~nicholi@rrcs-76-79-196-34.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #debian
13:16-!-antonio [~antonio@87.13.213.187] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
13:16-!-antonio [~antonio@87.13.213.187] has joined #debian
13:17<marco>!lsit
13:17-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
13:17-!-carlos [~carlos@152.168.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
13:18-!-carlos [~carlos@152.168.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit []
13:18<marco>msg nomebot xdcc list
13:18<sney>marco, no warez here, go away
13:19-!-marco [~marco@ppp-97-45.21-151.libero.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
13:19-!-mase [~mase@kemp-5d8601bf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
13:19-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-216-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:20-!-ender_ [~ender@88.254.21.223] has joined #debian
13:21-!-ender_ [~ender@88.254.21.223] has quit []
13:21-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
13:23-!-Chanadeler [~Chanadele@sal63-2-88-176-44-158.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
13:24-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@g225086080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:24-!-lassi [~lassi@a88-112-207-136.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
13:25-!-lassi is now known as Pude
13:25-!-Pude [~lassi@a88-112-207-136.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:25-!-chibiace [~chibiace@60-234-140-140.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
13:26<ivo888>chibiace, it have 2 separate windows. i prefer to look like windows explorer and xfe is better :)
13:28-!-kaziem [~devnull@166.252.78.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
13:29-!-nestor_ [~smuxi@wan.taric.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:30-!-swo [~swo@ip-95-223-139-208.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
13:30-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.19.90] has joined #debian
13:30-!-kv35nik [~kv35nik@178.130.22.239] has joined #debian
13:31-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar]
13:31-!-kv35nik [~kv35nik@178.130.22.239] has quit []
13:35-!-NIN [~NIN@p5DD28B96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
13:35-!-amphi [~amphi@59.95.35.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:36-!-cipher- [~vedran@adsl50po163.tel.net.ba] has joined #debian
13:37-!-tensorpudding [~michael@99.56.161.74] has quit [Quit: tensorpudding]
13:37-!-karrozia [~karrozia@237.195.46.84.ip.erdves.lt] has joined #debian
13:38-!-ryland [~ryland@ip-178-201-56-134.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
13:38-!-ivo888 [~stomanata@46.10.94.174] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:39-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:54f0:dea7:ddd1:358] has joined #debian
13:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 514] by debhelper
13:40-!-Infra_HDC [~askinfra@skazo4nik.comex.ru] has joined #debian
13:40-!-amphi_ [~amphi@59.95.19.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:40-!-akulah [~akulah@90.163.210.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:42-!-saulo [~chatzilla@177.42.176.119] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Iceweasel 3.5.9/20100501081150]]
13:43-!-warp10 [~andrea@95.234.70.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:43-!-nodiscc [~mrzorg@pir44-3-88-165-23-157.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:43-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.210.87] has joined #debian
13:43-!-tensorpudding [~michael@99.56.161.74] has joined #debian
13:44-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@host226-192-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
13:45-!-alienux [~theXman@41.250.212.202] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
13:46-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:48-!-Guest558 is now known as mentor
13:51-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
13:53-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:55-!-DrGkill [~DrGkill@92.103.115.30] has quit []
13:55-!-RodolfoRG [~RodolfoRG@187.115.224.43] has joined #debian
13:55-!-RodolfoRG [~RodolfoRG@187.115.224.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:56-!-vikingo [~vikingo@2-224-69-136.ip169.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
13:56-!-themis [~themis@p5DE97298.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
13:57-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has joined #debian
13:57-!-Infiltrator [~tim@115.187.228.99] has joined #debian
13:57-!-Unmenschlich [~steven@p4FCDFACF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:58-!-vikingo [~vikingo@2-224-69-136.ip169.fastwebnet.it] has left #debian []
13:58-!-hazard2 [~hazard@pool-96-237-170-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
13:58-!-vrkalak [~vrkalak@66-87-7-60.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:59-!-warp10 [~andrea@host209-0-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
14:00-!-themis is now known as daemon
14:00-!-daemon is now known as Themis
14:03-!-simon [~simon@ivr94-1-81-57-178-227.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
14:04-!-simon is now known as Guest563
14:06<Chanadeler>Bonjour à tous
14:06<Chanadeler>(hum, sorry, hello to everybody)
14:07-!-Honeyman [~Alex@37.19.4.1] has joined #debian
14:07<WizardNumberNext>hello, Chanadeler
14:07<sney>hi
14:07<WizardNumberNext>Chanadeler, what brings you to us?
14:08<Chanadeler>Hello WizardNumberNext. I'm colling for you because I have a problem with my touchpad since i've made an update with Debian Wheezy
14:09<WizardNumberNext>oh, I didn't tried Whezzy on laptop yet
14:09<WizardNumberNext>what kind of problem and which DE is it?
14:10<Chanadeler>3.2.0-2-686-pae #1 SMP Fri Apr 6 05:25:56 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
14:10<Chanadeler>and the problème is not very huge, but it's pyssing me off and force me to use a mouse
14:11<Chanadeler>The touchepad sensibility is very low
14:11<sney>!synaptics
14:11<dpkg>Synaptics is an X.org driver for laptop touchpads. Install the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package and "man synaptics" for driver options; configuration tools include synclient and gpointing-device-settings. Not working? -> "modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse". http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad . See also <clickpad>, <trackpoint>.
14:11-!-xubuntu [~xubuntu@80.30.30.113] has joined #debian
14:11<Chanadeler>And I can't settle it
14:12-!-blair [~blair@static-108-0-197-17.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
14:12<Chanadeler>Ok, thanks a lot dpkg, sney and WizardNumberNext
14:14<WizardNumberNext>Chanadeler, you could have sensivity settings in your DE (desktop envirnment) settings as well. Do not raise it too much - actually quite small changes to do a lot more, then you would expect
14:15<WizardNumberNext>raise (just slightly) acceleration, and if this won't help raise maximum speed a bit. (try it in smallest possible steps)
14:15-!-XeonBloomfield [~XeonBloom@n02.satfilm.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:15-!-juan [~juan@90.162.130.64] has joined #debian
14:15-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #debian
14:15<juan>olaaaa
14:16-!-juan is now known as Guest566
14:17-!-Therion87 [~Therion87@dynamic-acs-24-154-194-197.zoominternet.net] has joined #debian
14:17<Guest566>hay alguien!!
14:17-!-shinigami [~azrael@79.134.224.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:17<Chanadeler>Ok WizardNumberNext, you advice me to make quite small changes in my DE?
14:18<WizardNumberNext>KDE or gnome whatever you are using
14:18<WizardNumberNext>but mind that mouse settings are completely separate from touchpad!
14:19-!-homer [~homer@109.106.144.41] has joined #debian
14:19<Guest566>oh you are speaking english, i dont understant
14:19-!-homer [~homer@109.106.144.41] has left #debian []
14:19-!-xubuntu [~xubuntu@80.30.30.113] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
14:19<WizardNumberNext>actually setting touchpad speed and acceleration is quite hard, if don't know that it is non-linear behaviour of those settings
14:19<WizardNumberNext>at least it is what I can feel
14:20-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #debian
14:22-!-Guest566 [~juan@90.162.130.64] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
14:22-!-juan_ [~juan@90.162.130.64] has joined #debian
14:22-!-juan_ [~juan@90.162.130.64] has quit []
14:24-!-juan_ [~juan@90.162.130.64] has joined #debian
14:24<Chanadeler>Ok, I'm using Gnome. It's weird because before last week, my touchpad worked perfectly. I wonder if it's a material problem. But I'm not shure, the touchpad works, it's juste less sensitive
14:25<Chanadeler>after an egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps' /proc/bus/input/devices, I've got N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
14:25-!-juan_ [~juan@90.162.130.64] has quit []
14:27-!-brando753 [~brandon@204.228.23.203] has joined #debian
14:27-!-rage [~rage@hel59-4-88-160-125-53.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
14:33-!-acperkins [~acperkins@188-222-25-246.zone13.bethere.co.uk] has joined #debian
14:34-!-acperkins [~acperkins@188-222-25-246.zone13.bethere.co.uk] has quit []
14:35-!-acperkins [~acperkins@188-222-25-246.zone13.bethere.co.uk] has joined #debian
14:36-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
14:39-!-salvin [~salvin@host228-103-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 520] by debhelper
14:42-!-FragByte [~user@p5B2A2120.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
14:42-!-acperkins [~acperkins@188-222-25-246.zone13.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving]
14:43-!-vikingo [~vikingo@2-224-69-136.ip169.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
14:43-!-Nebular [~quassel@196-215-113-229.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:44-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
14:45-!-jet_ [~jet@171-217-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
14:47-!-vikingo [~vikingo@2-224-69-136.ip169.fastwebnet.it] has quit []
14:47-!-vikingo [~vikingo@2-224-69-136.ip169.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
14:48-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
14:50-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:51*vikingo is away:
14:51-!-Alverid [~none@190.66.70.156] has quit []
14:52-!-jet [~jet@200-239-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:55-!-hubutm20 [~hubutm20@79.114.119.180] has quit [Quit: Ulliendo]
14:55-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
14:55-!-marco_craveiro [~marco@cpc17-hatf7-2-0-cust90.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #debian
14:57-!-karrozia [~karrozia@237.195.46.84.ip.erdves.lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:59-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
14:59-!-vikingo [~vikingo@2-224-69-136.ip169.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: vikingo]
15:00-!-Infra_HDC [~askinfra@skazo4nik.comex.ru] has quit [Quit: I Quit]
15:01-!-noahfx [~noahfx@190.148.143.24] has joined #debian
15:02-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:02-!-zer0pouet [~quassel@lan31-7-82-241-249-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:04-!-dirichlet [~ffurnari@host226-192-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: leaving]
15:06-!-mlundblad [~marcus@217.142.147.24] has joined #debian
15:09-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:11-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-188-174-29-168.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
15:13-!-Swinden [~scott@67.8.235.20] has joined #debian
15:15-!-Swinden [~scott@67.8.235.20] has quit []
15:18-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@g225086080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
15:19-!-magnetic [~magnetic@239.Red-88-15-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:19-!-movl [~arares@89.47.83.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:19-!-rik_ [~rik@d54C24DA0.access.telenet.be] has joined #debian
15:19-!-mjrosenb_ [~mjrosenb@c-76-102-51-165.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:20-!-rubs [~ruben@193.51.120.163] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
15:21-!-multimi [~multimi@p4FD3C5D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
15:22-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:23-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h19n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Lämnar]
15:23-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:24-!-swex__ [~swex@109.69.25.216] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:25-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
15:29-!-mpbsc [~mpbsc@149.70.70.68] has joined #debian
15:29-!-mpbsc [~mpbsc@149.70.70.68] has quit []
15:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 512] by debhelper
15:31-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
15:32-!-pos [~mark@ppp-54-185.grapevine.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:34-!-gmarseliss [~kot@109.171.130.235] has joined #debian
15:34-!-madsci44 [~Tom@184.151.61.88] has joined #debian
15:34-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:34-!-gmarseliss [~kot@109.171.130.235] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:35-!-project2501b [~kot@66.90.69.197] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
15:35-!-Nebular [~quassel@196-215-113-229.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #debian
15:37-!-antonio [~antonio@87.13.213.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:38-!-Honeyman [~Alex@37.19.4.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:39-!-mateusz [~mateusz@5ED2AED8.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:39-!-swex__ [~swex@178.17.200.141] has joined #debian
15:41-!-warp10` [~andrea@87.19.89.186] has joined #debian
15:47-!-warp10 [~andrea@host209-0-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:50-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
15:51-!-andibm [~andi@HSI-KBW-149-172-216-243.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
15:51-!-otto [~otto@91-113-4-166.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
15:51-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@105.167.78.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
15:52-!-lord_rob [robert@28.231-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #debian
15:53-!-rik_ [~rik@d54C24DA0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
15:53-!-otto [~otto@91-113-4-166.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit []
15:54-!-Samikira [~samikira@84-119-58-87.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #debian
15:54-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:54f0:dea7:ddd1:358] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
15:55-!-ismael [~ismael@r201-217-140-37.ir-static.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
15:55-!-ismael [~ismael@r201-217-140-37.ir-static.anteldata.net.uy] has left #debian []
15:55-!-clopez [~clopez@fanzine.igalia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:56-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
15:56-!-weawer [~weawer@10.Red-81-39-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
15:56-!-weawer [~weawer@10.Red-81-39-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #debian []
15:57-!-devil [~devil@dslb-088-072-238-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit []
15:59-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-47-142.ip106.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
16:00-!-RodolfoRG [~RodolfoRG@187.115.224.43] has joined #debian
16:00-!-RodolfoRG [~RodolfoRG@187.115.224.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:00-!-noahfx [~noahfx@190.148.143.24] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:00-!-alephnull [~alok@112.79.40.74] has joined #debian
16:00-!-vrkalak [~vrkalak@66-87-2-161.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #debian
16:00-!-tlyu [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has joined #debian
16:00-!-devil [~devil@dslb-088-072-238-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
16:01-!-mase [~mase@kemp-5d8601bf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:02-!-tlyu_ [~tlyu@SARNATH.MIT.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:03-!-warp10 [~andrea@95.234.1.60] has joined #debian
16:03-!-chaos [torment@dsl51B6AA8C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:03-!-madsci44 [~Tom@184.151.61.88] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:03-!-chaosIrssi [torment@dsl51B6AA8C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:05-!-xfire78xx [~xfire78xx@host204-84-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
16:06*xfire78xx sera
16:06-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbabb6a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
16:07-!-brando753 [~brandon@204.228.23.203] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
16:07-!-chaos [torment@dsl51B7A99E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #debian
16:07-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:08-!-bittin [~bittin@c213-100-108-76.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
16:08-!-warp10` [~andrea@87.19.89.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:08-!-Havok_Novak [~Havok_Nov@ram94-7-82-232-191-237.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
16:08-!-Havok_Novak [~Havok_Nov@ram94-7-82-232-191-237.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
16:08-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:09<WizardNumberNext>Chanadeler, sorry for being late on this issue I was somewhere else
16:09-!-chaosIrssi [torment@dsl51B7A99E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #debian
16:09<WizardNumberNext>I think you are running on default setting and they did change (maybe)
16:11<WizardNumberNext>Chanadeler, please always include my nick when you want to speak to me, as I do not check it too often, so I could miss what you are saying
16:12-!-Maikel [~Steff@82.94.220.112] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:15-!-hele [~hele@212-149-220-248.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:16-!-carisna [~carisna@93-40-40-198.ip37.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
16:17-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
16:17-!-chaos [torment@dsl51B7A99E.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: I love core dump]
16:18-!-chaos [torment@dsl51B7A99E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #debian
16:18-!-toto42 [~toto@p5081CA58.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:18-!-aranax [~aranax@190.56.140.209] has joined #debian
16:19-!-rabies [~rabies@egr-hudson-00162.egr.duke.edu] has joined #debian
16:20-!-rabies [~rabies@egr-hudson-00162.egr.duke.edu] has quit []
16:20-!-ring1 [~ring0@dslb-084-059-138-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
16:21-!-mick [~mick@99-33-248-193.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
16:22-!-mick is now known as Guest584
16:22-!-DeepDiver [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:23-!-thomas [~quassel@178-27-220-199-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:24-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:202a:7650:2270:b] has joined #debian
16:24-!-zlatan [~zlatan@adsl-165-133-1.teol.net] has joined #debian
16:25-!-att [~att@187.114.128.80] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:25-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has quit [Quit: In /dev/null no one can hear you scream.]
16:26-!-mejsa [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has left #debian []
16:26-!-ring0 [~ring0@dslb-084-059-140-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:27-!-lord_rob [robert@28.231-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:29-!-aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-71.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #debian
16:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 505] by debhelper
16:30-!-wd40s [~wd40s@205.178.35.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:30-!-alephnull [~alok@112.79.40.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:31-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
16:31-!-indigo [~pfrost@207.8.235.242] has joined #debian
16:31-!-zlatan [~zlatan@adsl-165-133-1.teol.net] has left #debian [Leaving]
16:32-!-cyril [~cyril@par69-11-88-188-68-203.fbx.proxad.net] has left #debian []
16:32-!-ryo [textblase@raid1.net] has quit [Quit: cya]
16:33-!-lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@othal.net] has joined #debian
16:33-!-lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@othal.net] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2012-04-16 20:33:19)]
16:33-!-Vyrus [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has joined #debian
16:33-!-death [~death@81-66-232-255.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #debian
16:34-!-toabctl [~toabctl@brln-4dbabb6a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:35-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has joined #debian
16:36-!-Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:38<Chanadeler>WizardNumberNext, Ok, I didn't succes with aptitude. It's anoying. I'll try again tomorrow. Thonk you very much for all the advice. Good bye
16:38-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
16:38<WizardNumberNext>Chanadlere, see you and wish you luck
16:38<WizardNumberNext>oh, and you are most welcome
16:39-!-Chanadeler [~Chanadele@sal63-2-88-176-44-158.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte : Merci tout le monde et à plus pour de nouvelles aventures]
16:39-!-felix_ [~felix@vpn205-123.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has joined #debian
16:39-!-att [~att@187.58.71.251] has joined #debian
16:40-!-felix_ [~felix@vpn205-123.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de] has quit []
16:41-!-rage [~rage@hel59-4-88-160-125-53.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
16:41-!-towo` [~torsten_w@178-24-37-129-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
16:43-!-liegruppe [~felix@dslb-188-098-181-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:43-!-andibm [~andi@HSI-KBW-149-172-216-243.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:43-!-Therionized [~Therion87@dynamic-acs-24-154-194-197.zoominternet.net] has joined #debian
16:45-!-Therion87 [~Therion87@dynamic-acs-24-154-194-197.zoominternet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
16:45-!-Therionized [~Therion87@dynamic-acs-24-154-194-197.zoominternet.net] has quit []
16:46-!-Aoi [~Asylumesc@177.132.102.33] has joined #debian
16:46-!-Aoi is now known as Guest588
16:51-!-Guest588 [~Asylumesc@177.132.102.33] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
16:51-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-47-142.ip106.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:52-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:52-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-47-142.ip106.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
16:53-!-bluenemo [~bluenemo@g225086080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:54-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has joined #debian
16:54-!-NightMonkey [~NightrMon@nightmonkey.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:55-!-perlwizard [~x@95.158.11.2] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:55-!-lduros [~lduros@dhcp0641.nic.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:55-!-indigo [~pfrost@207.8.235.242] has quit [Quit: leaving]
16:56-!-NightMonkey [~NightrMon@nightmonkey.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:59-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:59-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
16:59-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
16:59-!-kaziem [~devnull@166.252.78.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
17:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 497] by debhelper
17:00-!-Fotografiona [~Fotografi@dslb-178-000-058-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:00-!-janos_ [~janos@95.180.59.209] has joined #debian
17:02-!-skyegg [~olavo@189.125.242.3] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
17:02-!-crib [~chris@port-92-202-122-47.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: quit]
17:03-!-crib [~chris@port-92-202-122-47.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #debian
17:03-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has joined #debian
17:04-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:06-!-NIN [~NIN@p5DD28B96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: NIN]
17:07-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.50.166.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
17:08-!-scientes [~scientes@ppp-71-139-22-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #debian
17:09-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:202a:7650:2270:b] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:09-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:202a:7650:2270:b] has joined #debian
17:12-!-vrkalak [~vrkalak@66-87-2-161.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:13-!-crib [~chris@port-92-202-122-47.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: quit]
17:14-!-crib [~chris@port-92-202-122-47.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #debian
17:14-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:14-!-adb [~adb@178-211-226-40.dhcp.voenergies.net] has joined #debian
17:16-!-jesus_ [~jesus@190.Red-95-120-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:16-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
17:19-!-Miguel0n [~miguel@105.167.78.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:26-!-Samikira [~samikira@84-119-58-87.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:27-!-Ricki [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:27-!-Ricki [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has joined #debian
17:27-!-polka [~polka@109.255.133.69] has joined #debian
17:30-!-fr33k [~fvb@546B3C97.cm-12-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
17:30-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has left #debian []
17:30-!-headyadmin_ [~headyadmi@gateway.mirada.com] has joined #debian
17:30<polka>test
17:31-!-headyadmin_ [~headyadmi@gateway.mirada.com] has quit []
17:32-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has joined #debian
17:32-!-cri [~cri@93-40-87-244.ip38.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
17:32-!-anbe [~andreas@calzone.ae.cs.uni-frankfurt.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:32-!-cri [~cri@93-40-87-244.ip38.fastwebnet.it] has quit []
17:32-!-DebianLover [~mo@095-096-172-237.static.chello.nl] has left #debian []
17:33-!-perlwizard [~x@95.158.11.2] has joined #debian
17:37-!-Guest563 [~simon@ivr94-1-81-57-178-227.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:37-!-headyadmin [~headyadmi@gateway.mirada.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:38-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:38-!-bruno [~bruno@95.69.92.109] has joined #debian
17:39-!-aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-71.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
17:41-!-no2 [~vale@93-43-46-128.ip90.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
17:43-!-cyberdream [~cyberdrea@host-92-20-158-124.as13285.net] has joined #debian
17:43-!-cyberdream [~cyberdrea@host-92-20-158-124.as13285.net] has quit []
17:44-!-zlatan [~zlatan@adsl-165-133-1.teol.net] has joined #debian
17:45-!-cybersphinx [~cyber@p4FD673AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
17:45-!-magnetic [~magnetic@62.101.188.162.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
17:46-!-mizzle [~mizzle@pool-96-255-185-175.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
17:46<mizzle>hello all
17:47-!-death [~death@81-66-232-255.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:49-!-Ricki [~Ricki@84.19.108.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:49<mizzle>anyone around?
17:49-!-mengman_ [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has joined #debian
17:49<zlatan>mizzle, just ask what you need (read IRC docs)
17:50-!-no2 [~vale@93-43-46-128.ip90.fastwebnet.it] has left #debian [Konversation terminated!]
17:50-!-PTKDev [~ptkdev@ppp-118-101.24-151.libero.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:51<mizzle>zlatan: I don't need anything. Just checking this chan out.
17:51-!-att [~att@187.58.71.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:52-!-cybersphinx_ [~cyber@p4FD67F3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:52-!-mengman [~mats@79-133-3-242.bredband.aland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:53-!-xfire78xx [~xfire78xx@host204-84-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
17:54-!-melmothX [~melmoth@93-137-206-93.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: #]
17:54<zlatan>mizzle, checking chan? This is Debian support channel, here you come usually to ask about help with your Debian stable installation
17:55-!-f8l [~f8l@77-255-7-152.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7]
17:55-!-rivon [~rivon@glados.sh.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Bye]
17:56-!-bruno is now known as Sade69
17:56-!-wissem_ [~localhost@41.226.213.40] has joined #debian
17:56-!-pos [~mark@101.169.230.145] has joined #debian
17:58-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-216-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
17:58-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:58-!-drdanz [~quassel@drdanz.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 488] by debhelper
18:00-!-xharx__ [~xharx@port-92-205-171-34.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:00-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:03-!-wissem [~localhost@197.0.210.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:05-!-whodare [~whodare@222.128.181.53] has joined #debian
18:07-!-Sade69 [~bruno@95.69.92.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:07-!-katsura [~katsura@host-85-201-104-64.brutele.be] has joined #debian
18:08-!-katsura [~katsura@host-85-201-104-64.brutele.be] has quit []
18:09-!-multimi [~multimi@p4FD3C5D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
18:09-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.73.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:09-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has joined #debian
18:09-!-jkf [~Greg_od@79-140-4-157.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua] has quit []
18:10-!-heg [~heg@dyn.83-228-219-007.dsl.vtx.ch] has left #debian [Leaving]
18:10-!-brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has joined #debian
18:10-!-anbe [~andreas@dessauer-B.div.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #debian
18:10-!-emismao [~emsimao@190.34.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #debian
18:10-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:11-!-emismao [~emsimao@190.34.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has left #debian []
18:11-!-magnetic [~magnetic@62.101.188.162.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
18:12-!-pos [~mark@101.169.230.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:12-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.73.163] has joined #debian
18:13-!-polka [~polka@109.255.133.69] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:15<gruetzkopf>how can i make debian access the root device less often (touching the disk every 10 seconds is bad for drive and agressive power and noise management)
18:16-!-OkropNick [kuba@host-n2-72-190.telpol.net.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:16<rudi_s>gruetzkopf: Don't run any programs ..
18:16<sney>and move swap to a different device / reduce swappiness
18:17<rudi_s>I guess it's some program logging something ..
18:17<gruetzkopf>swaps disabled
18:17<ajedwards>turn swap off entirely if you have enough ram...
18:17<WizardNumberNext>gruetzkopf, move root and /var partitions out of drive, which you want to power-safe
18:17<gruetzkopf>and there is only apache and opensshd
18:17<WizardNumberNext>so what is the point?
18:18<WizardNumberNext>if it is server, then let it run
18:18<WizardNumberNext>I have two servers and both have all powersaving completely off (apart of cpufreq)
18:19<gruetzkopf>all data accessed by apache is stored on another drive (SILENT), and its a machine buildt for low noise
18:19<gruetzkopf>not speed
18:19<WizardNumberNext>but it server?
18:19<WizardNumberNext>is it?
18:19<WizardNumberNext>manage noise
18:19<WizardNumberNext>not power
18:19<WizardNumberNext>hdparm -m128 /dev/hda
18:19<gruetzkopf>its just providing some movie storage
18:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 480] by debhelper
18:20<WizardNumberNext>or whatever drive is it
18:20<WizardNumberNext>on apache?
18:20<gruetzkopf>yes
18:20<WizardNumberNext>why not NFS or SAMBA?
18:20<gruetzkopf>pretty static
18:20<gruetzkopf>and the clients are pretty braindead
18:21<WizardNumberNext>I have NAS on my server (bridge) and FTPS on server, which do use NFS exports
18:21<gruetzkopf>they dont speak SMB
18:21-!-zlatan [~zlatan@adsl-165-133-1.teol.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:21<WizardNumberNext>wait while, who do not speak SMB?
18:21<gruetzkopf>the clients
18:21<WizardNumberNext>smb/vifs/smb2 is widely spead
18:22<WizardNumberNext>win, GNU/Linux, Mac
18:22<WizardNumberNext>sorry cifs
18:22-!-mlundblad [~marcus@217.142.147.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:22<sney>samba isn't exactly less log-happy than apache, though
18:22<WizardNumberNext>than maybe ftp - that is more convient, then http
18:22<gruetzkopf>boxesspeak only http
18:22<gruetzkopf>propietary os
18:22<WizardNumberNext>but you can easily turn off logging in samba
18:23<WizardNumberNext>oh now I understand
18:23<gruetzkopf>problemis i have frequent disk acesses even with all possible clients disconnected from power supply
18:25-!-ao2 [~u@cl-35.trn-01.it.sixxs.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
18:25<WizardNumberNext>maybe move /var/log then
18:25<WizardNumberNext>to the other drive
18:25<WizardNumberNext>do you use LVM?
18:26<sney>can't you turn off apache logging altogether? I mean, if something went wrong you'd be up a creek, but
18:26<sney>I seem to remember apache having an adjustable log level.
18:27-!-steeb [~steeb@jabberd.draugr.de] has left #debian []
18:28<WizardNumberNext>yeah, at least access logging
18:29-!-a [~c@133.Red-79-144-184.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
18:29<WizardNumberNext>this can be turned off without any bigger consequence
18:29-!-a [~c@133.Red-79-144-184.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
18:30-!-stk [~stk@12.15.249.178] has joined #debian
18:37<FragByte>part
18:37-!-FragByte [~user@p5B2A2120.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #debian [ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]
18:39-!-degli [~degli@2001:1418:193:60:202a:7650:2270:b] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:42<mizzle>Anyone help me? I created a script, placed in /etc/init.d/ Made sym link, placed in /etc/rc2.d/ Both files have proper perm. executing script from /etc/init.d/ produces intended result. However, script is not run after reboot as intended.
18:43<mizzle>I named file S21myscript
18:43<mizzle>(highest number for the runlevel)
18:44-!-Humantis [~humantis@ip68-99-246-146.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
18:44<dnlrg>mizzle, http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
18:45<WizardNumberNext>mizzle, quick question, do you have /sur mounted by then and do you use anything from /usr
18:45<WizardNumberNext>and did you included paths in this script
18:46-!-clopez [~clopez@44.18.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
18:46<mizzle>thanks dnlrg ; I think that's the prob.
18:46<mizzle>Wizard, I'm using absolute paths like every good sysadmin should ;)
18:47<WizardNumberNext>absolute path are not good
18:48<WizardNumberNext>consider such situation
18:48<WizardNumberNext>you did use something from /usr , but I did compile it by myself and did put it to /usr/local - your script fails
18:49<WizardNumberNext>and I do have quite a lot in /usr/local
18:49-!-Quintasan_ [~quassel@p5DE7870A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
18:49-!-Black_Prince [~Prince@91.191.20.15] has quit [Quit: In /dev/null no one can hear you scream.]
18:50<WizardNumberNext>gcc (4.4.7, 4.5.3, 4.6.3, 4.7.0), ffmpeg, most multimedia, yasm and all libraries need for gcc to build
18:51<WizardNumberNext>target is to recompile whole OS for processor
18:51<WizardNumberNext>cause phenom do have quite feq differences from original K8
18:52-!-kriller_ [~kriller@2009ds2-gj.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:52-!-mjrosenb_ [~mjrosenb@c-76-102-51-165.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
18:53<mizzle>I'm not making a package. I'm making 1 script for my 1 box.
18:53-!-Themis [~themis@p5DE97298.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:53<WizardNumberNext>I do not say you are making package, but I just pointed out one of possible reasons why not to use hard-coded paths
18:54<WizardNumberNext>the reason is, when you would bring it to different distro, then it could fail as well as programms could be in different locations
18:55<WizardNumberNext>I won't even say about BSD or anything like that
18:55-!-ALLurGroceries [~ALLurGroc@c-71-234-217-38.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #debian
18:55<WizardNumberNext>but most probably you do write in bash, so nevermind BSD
18:55-!-Quintasan [~quassel@p5DE7B9E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:55-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
18:56<WizardNumberNext>oh, I did few script just for my box, but it turn out to be usefull, so when I would make final version, I would distribute it to wider public
19:03-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
19:03-!-yzernik [~yzernik@108-65-1-76.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
19:04-!-yzernik [~yzernik@108-65-1-76.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has left #debian []
19:04-!-dnlrg [~dnlrg@93.146.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:05-!-enrique [~enrique@correo.geo.gob.bo] has joined #debian
19:07-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:07-!-enrique [~enrique@correo.geo.gob.bo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:08-!-wissem_ [~localhost@41.226.213.40] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
19:09-!-Madatnek [~adamd@c-fd72e255.035-214-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 474] by debhelper
19:13-!-yip [~ali@5acb8746.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
19:13-!-q66 [~q66@213.191.105.214] has quit [Quit: Leaving..]
19:16-!-floppy [~floppy@85.122.145.68] has joined #debian
19:16-!-floppy [~floppy@85.122.145.68] has quit []
19:16-!-dwon [~dwon@2607:f2c0:a000:c0:217:31ff:fe53:f7c7] has joined #debian
19:19-!-att [~att@187.114.158.147] has joined #debian
19:19-!-frosty [~quassel@142.162.33.136] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:19-!-cipher- [~vedran@adsl50po163.tel.net.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:20-!-frosty [~quassel@142.162.33.136] has joined #debian
19:21-!-Vyrus is now known as vyrus001
19:21-!-syncmaster4 [~chatzilla@cpe-174-109-036-198.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
19:27<syncmaster4>Hello - new to debian but fairly strong on rh systems. I know this is newb question but I'm not familiar with aptitude.. aptitutde safe-upgrade wants to install a new kernel but remove the current kernel. That did not seem right to me so I thought I check with the experts here before creating work for my self. Debian 6.0.4.
19:29<ml|>aptitude should not remove any kernel, by default
19:31<WizardNumberNext>syncmaster, I do see your point, it do simply swap older revision with newer one
19:31<WizardNumberNext>I never encountered any problems with that
19:32<WizardNumberNext>but I do dislike kernel updates (reboot needed, grub.cfg wasted)
19:32-!-jet__ [~jet@57-36-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #debian
19:32<WizardNumberNext>and do use specific flags for ext4, which have to be included in kernel cmdline
19:33<ml|>well that is normal since it is the same kernel, with relevant security updates
19:33<WizardNumberNext>so I made my grub.cfg immutable
19:34<ml|>unless you use backported kernels
19:34<WizardNumberNext>syncmaster, AFAIK it should work with reboot
19:35<WizardNumberNext>but I do not know answer for years now, cause I do not use stock kernels any more (from 2.6.2)
19:35-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:35<WizardNumberNext>ml|, anyway a lot in debian kernel is backported
19:36<WizardNumberNext>and they do a lot of develpment and bug-squishing
19:36<ml|>I mean from bpo
19:36<WizardNumberNext>oh, then you would have two kernels - debian do not remove kernels as long it is not asked for
19:36<syncmaster4>Ok, I guess I'm used to the old kernel remaining allowing you to boot back into it if there is a problem. I tried unmarkauto but that didn't seem to do anything.
19:36<ml|>exactly
19:37<WizardNumberNext>syncmaster, do not worry, everything would be fine
19:37<syncmaster4>this is on proxmox system I've just inherited
19:37<syncmaster4>Resolving dependencies...
19:37<syncmaster4>The following NEW packages will be installed:
19:37<syncmaster4> pve-kernel-2.6.32-11-pve{a}
19:37<syncmaster4>The following packages will be REMOVED:
19:37<syncmaster4> pve-kernel-2.6.32-10-pve{u}
19:37<WizardNumberNext>it is normal in debian - kernels do get new revisions and they simply work
19:37<ml|>syncmaster4: they only get security updates
19:38<syncmaster4>so don't worry about it and let aptitude safe-update run?
19:38<WizardNumberNext>syncmaster, uname -r
19:39<syncmaster4>root@dhn11:~# uname -r
19:39<syncmaster4>2.6.32-10-pve
19:39-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
19:39-!-jet_ [~jet@171-217-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:39<WizardNumberNext>wait while? why do you use root account for that?
19:39<WizardNumberNext>anyway strange - you have to reboot
19:40<WizardNumberNext>shame
19:40<syncmaster4>I know... bad habit
19:40-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: nb]
19:40<WizardNumberNext>and it is quite old kernel
19:40<WizardNumberNext>very bad habbit
19:40<WizardNumberNext>I do use sudo and in worst case sudo bash
19:41<WizardNumberNext>and after I am done 'CTRL+D' (never used exit)
19:41<WizardNumberNext>yes it is
19:41<syncmaster4>Ok, I'll let aptitude safe-update run. Thanks very much for your help!
19:41-!-salvin [~salvin@93-46-47-142.ip106.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
19:42<WizardNumberNext>3.2.14
19:42<WizardNumberNext>on server
19:42<WizardNumberNext>3.2.13
19:42<WizardNumberNext>on desktop
19:42<syncmaster4>This is running proxmox so they control the kernel versions - modified to run openvz and kvm instances
19:42<ml|>syncmaster4: from where does that kernel come from?
19:43<WizardNumberNext>I am bit lazy lately, if it comes to kernel - evry few days I see new revision
19:43<ml|>ah
19:43<WizardNumberNext>from ftp.kernel.org
19:43<WizardNumberNext>obviously
19:43<WizardNumberNext>I am building my own kernels
19:43-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f048228108.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:43-!-nb [~nb@nb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:43<WizardNumberNext>I do not use stock kernel from time of 2.6.2
19:44-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.73.60] has joined #debian
19:44<WizardNumberNext>with kvm I do not really see point for openvz
19:44<WizardNumberNext>but anyway
19:45<syncmaster4>Is there a way to just skip the kernel upgrade? With yum I could pass "exclude package" and it would install the remaining packages. I know it should be upgraded but it would give me a little time to get test Debian server up to work with aptitude a bit.
19:45<ml|>ah, proxmox does not equal debian... <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support
19:45<WizardNumberNext>and I do dislike PATA driver from libata - they do mess too much
19:45<ml|>that's why I could not find that kernel in debian
19:46-!-robbiethe1st [~robbiethe@50-52-13-12.cral.id.frontiernet.net] has joined #debian
19:46<syncmaster4>Ah, I guess I assumed debian based on /etc/debian_version
19:46<ml|>dpkg: based on debian
19:46<WizardNumberNext>oh you get kernel from ftp.kernel.org (or even debian kernel as source) and add openvz patches
19:46<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution. #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
19:47-!-pitelpan [~quassel@cust-30-162.on6.ontelecoms.GR] has joined #debian
19:47<WizardNumberNext>actually squeeze do have openvz kernel
19:48*ml| never used proxmox; or would pointed you to the right place earlier ;)
19:48<WizardNumberNext>syncmaster4, get debian for it - it have great support in many forms and it is stable platform (well tested and well documented) unlike all those super-new distros where documentation is always outdated
19:49<syncmaster4>Thanks again and no offense intended dpkg. Everyone have a great day. Again, thank for the assistance!
19:49<ml|>good luck
19:49<syncmaster4>:)
19:49<WizardNumberNext>syncmaster4
19:50<WizardNumberNext>it is only OpenSource not Free Software
19:50<WizardNumberNext>I wouldn't like it
19:50<WizardNumberNext>no freedom with it
19:50-!-stk [~stk@12.15.249.178] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
19:50<ml|>dpkg: tell WizardNumberNext about enter
19:52<WizardNumberNext>ml|, just wanted to catch him before he would leave
19:52<WizardNumberNext>but he didn't
19:53<robbiethe1st>ml|, about 'enter'?
19:53<sney>!enter
19:53<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
19:53<ml|>WizardNumberNext: I understand that, but look at the scrollback please
19:53<abrotman>wow ...
19:53<WizardNumberNext>ml| you are right
19:53-!-mejsa1 [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has joined #debian
19:53<sney>I am guilty of the enter thing on many other channels but I keep it in check here, on purpose
19:53<abrotman>WizardNumberNext: you could say "Hang out for a few minutes, I'd like to explain" instead of flooding the screen
19:55<ml|>we all have done it, but when someone keeps doing it; it is good to remind ;)
19:55<WizardNumberNext>ml|, abrotman, I would write full sentences from now on, and find other way catch leaving people
19:55<abrotman>WizardNumberNext: i just said .. ask the person to stick around til you're done rambling
19:56<WizardNumberNext>ml|, I am greatful for reminding that, as I see the purpose in not flooding screen
19:56-!-Madatnek [~adamd@c-fd72e255.035-214-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
19:58<WizardNumberNext>syncmaster4, you would be really bewtter with stable debian (6 squeeze) as it would have newer software, then this in proxmox (I did read it is based on Lenny), and it support openvz (almost out of the box - with update of sources with mirrors) and kvm is supported out of the box
19:58-!-aranax [~aranax@190.56.140.209] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
19:59<WizardNumberNext>which I confirm is working, as I did test KVM on Debian 6
19:59<ml|>WizardNumberNext: glad you understand :)
19:59<syncmaster4>Back - sorry had window minimized
20:00-!-Humantis [~humantis@ip68-99-246-146.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:00<WizardNumberNext>ml|, yes it is not hard any way, just weighting word before pressing magic key
20:00<ml|>:)
20:01-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-13-41.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:02-!-syncmaster4 [~chatzilla@cpe-174-109-036-198.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643]]
20:03-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
20:03<WizardNumberNext>actually, one question: what about support for Debian GNU/HURD here? Do you guys run it? Do you know how-to?
20:04<abrotman>there's #debian-hurd
20:04<abrotman>or #hurd?
20:04<abrotman>the former .. /me breaks his enter key now
20:05-!-brando753 [~brandon@ip70-162-119-29.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Client Quit, Bye Everyone!]
20:06-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f048232003.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
20:06<WizardNumberNext>I do know about #hurd channel and actually I am 'tunned in' right now
20:06<abrotman>tuned?
20:07-!-cento [~ignorante@ppp-76-238.29-151.libero.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20:08<WizardNumberNext>I do listen, I am logged in there and actually I asked about status, as it is hard to find out from web actual status, as it is not really updated (at least I do feel like), any way debian-hurd channel would usufull later on, as I am going to try out that combination
20:09-!-perlwizard [~x@95.158.11.2] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20:16-!-jwayne [~jwayne@li442-174.members.linode.com] has joined #debian
20:16-!-infinity0 [~infinity0@host-78-149-127-202.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:29-!-killer_ [~killer@pool-173-66-79-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
20:30-!-clopez [~clopez@44.18.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:32-!-killer_ [~killer@pool-173-66-79-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit []
20:33-!-zlynx [~Lynx@15.211.153.75] has joined #debian
20:33-!-andres is now known as zz_andres
20:34-!-janos_ [~janos@95.180.59.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:38-!-ring1 [~ring0@dslb-084-059-138-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:42-!-infinity0 [~infinity0@host-78-149-127-202.as13285.net] has joined #debian
20:43-!-stk [~stk@66.117.184.204] has joined #debian
20:46-!-pitelpan [~quassel@cust-30-162.on6.ontelecoms.GR] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
20:49-!-Guest601 [~mike@c-174-59-197-8.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
20:49-!-jardiamj [~jardiamj@rdbk.p8-245.molalla.net] has joined #debian
20:49-!-Guest601 [~mike@c-174-59-197-8.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:49-!-Holborn [~holborn@170.Red-88-26-182.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
20:50-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.39.99.52] has joined #debian
20:50-!-darthmoul [~escondido@190.39.99.52] has quit []
20:52-!-mentor [~mentor@92.39.203.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:54-!-infinity0 [~infinity0@host-78-149-127-202.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20:55-!-_julian_ [~quassel@hmbg-4d068e88.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
20:56-!-symptom [~symptom@129.210.115.7] has joined #debian
20:57-!-infinity0 [~infinity0@host-78-149-127-202.as13285.net] has joined #debian
20:58-!-pitelpan [~quassel@cust-30-162.on6.ontelecoms.GR] has joined #debian
21:02-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
21:02-!-_julian [~quassel@hmbg-4d068c4a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:02-!-aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-71.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #debian
21:06-!-zem [~voodoo@93-139-146-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
21:08-!-S-FORTRAN_MAN [~C@87-16-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #debian
21:08-!-zem_ [~voodoo@93-142-243-133.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:09<S-FORTRAN_MAN>LIFE SUCKS, SO DO ME A FAVOR AND SUCK MY DICK.
21:09-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
21:09-!-S-FORTRAN_MAN was kicked from #debian by abrotman [you should know better]
21:09-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*@87-16-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] by abrotman
21:09-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
21:10<dvs>next?
21:16-!-blair [~blair@static-108-0-197-17.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:17-!-fr33k [~fvb@546B3C97.cm-12-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:17-!-janos_ [~janos@109-93-181-198.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #debian
21:17-!-MSX [~ano@197.7.182.117] has joined #debian
21:18-!-MSX [~ano@197.7.182.117] has left #debian []
21:18-!-kmshanah_ [~kmshanah@ppp121-45-82-224.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
21:18-!-MisterFluffy [~MisterFlu@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #debian
21:19-!-quan [~quan@115.78.133.75] has joined #debian
21:20-!-quan [~quan@115.78.133.75] has left #debian []
21:21-!-biologolunar [~bl@190.77.91.15] has joined #debian
21:23-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p57A907B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
21:24-!-fcrs_ [~fcrs@adsl-68-89-189-195.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #debian
21:24-!-kmshanah [~kmshanah@ppp121-45-93-1.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:25-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@h87-96-232-93.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:26-!-fcrs [~fcrs@adsl-68-90-46-141.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:27-!-naz [~naz@27.109.111.80] has joined #debian
21:31-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:33-!-ALLurGroceries [~ALLurGroc@c-71-234-217-38.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
21:34-!-janos_ [~janos@109-93-181-198.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
21:35-!-ikonia [~irc@bender.dnsdata.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:36-!-dous [~dous@cm66.kappa98.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:38-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
21:38-!-mode/#debian [-b *!*@87-16-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] by abrotman
21:38-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
21:40-!-mode/#debian [+l 468] by debhelper
21:44-!-__iron [~tobias@ip-141-31-182-26.nat.selfnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:45-!-ALLurGroceries [~ALLurGroc@c-71-234-217-38.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #debian
21:46-!-symptom [~symptom@129.210.115.7] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
21:46-!-ALLurGroceries is now known as Guest612
21:47-!-jardiamj [~jardiamj@rdbk.p8-245.molalla.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:49-!-naz [~naz@27.109.111.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:50-!-debsan [~debsan@190.245.74.16] has joined #debian
21:53-!-NightMonkey [~NightrMon@nightmonkey.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:57-!-carnil_ [~carnil@217-162-222-27.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:57-!-carnil_ [~carnil@217-162-222-27.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #debian
21:58-!-naz [~naz@27.109.111.80] has joined #debian
22:05-!-zlynx [~Lynx@15.211.153.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
22:06-!-att [~att@187.114.158.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:06-!-TaitenP_ [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
22:07-!-cybersphinx [~cyber@p4FD673AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:07-!-zlynx [~Lynx@15.211.153.73] has joined #debian
22:08-!-cybersphinx [~cyber@p4FD673AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian
22:09-!-legnaleurc [~quassel@dblab97.csie.ncu.edu.tw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:10-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-188-174-113-147.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
22:11-!-pitelpan [~quassel@cust-30-162.on6.ontelecoms.GR] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:13-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:14-!-rgms [~rgms@212-149-196-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
22:16-!-rgms_ [~rgms@212-149-216-234.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:26-!-brando753 [~brandon@atm0-0-sc-cisco-scc.maricopa.edu] has joined #debian
22:27-!-abdulkarim [~abdulkari@123.237.73.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:29-!-TaitenP_ [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
22:29-!-brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 462] by debhelper
22:30-!-TaitenP [~TaitenP@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
22:30-!-brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has joined #debian
22:34-!-stompy [~stompy@r75-110-31-179.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #debian
22:34-!-stompy [~stompy@r75-110-31-179.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:34-!-stompy [~stompy@r75-110-31-179.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #debian
22:36-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@203-217-69-147.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
22:42-!-brando753 [~brandon@atm0-0-sc-cisco-scc.maricopa.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:44-!-martin_ [~martin@f049102218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
22:46-!-Therion87 [~Therion87@dynamic-acs-24-154-194-197.zoominternet.net] has joined #debian
22:47-!-Therion87 [~Therion87@dynamic-acs-24-154-194-197.zoominternet.net] has quit []
22:49-!-hychen [~hychen@210.242.151.101] has joined #debian
22:49-!-dous [~dous@210.24.42.190] has joined #debian
22:50-!-mode/#debian [+l 468] by debhelper
22:51-!-gruetzkopf [~martin@f048232003.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:52<stompy>what up #debian!
22:55-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
22:56-!-keystreams [~keystream@S0106b8c75dcc6bcf.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:58-!-user_ [~user@188-193-100-162-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #debian
22:58-!-mizzle [~mizzle@pool-96-255-185-175.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:01-!-legnaleurc [~quassel@dblab97.csie.ncu.edu.tw] has joined #debian
23:02-!-biologolunar [~bl@190.77.91.15] has quit [Quit: Bye!!]
23:06-!-kozel [~kozel@103.3.46.13] has joined #debian
23:06<kozel>hy
23:06-!-madsci44 [~Tom@184.151.61.189] has joined #debian
23:06-!-madsci44 [~Tom@184.151.61.189] has quit [Killed (synthon.oftc.net (Nick collision (new)))]
23:06-!-madsci44 is "(unknown)" on (unknown)
23:07-!-mizzle [~mizzle@pool-96-255-185-175.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
23:07-!-wd40s [~wd40s@205.178.35.196] has joined #debian
23:08-!-madsci44 [~Tom@184.151.61.189] has joined #debian
23:09-!-symptom [~symptom@129.210.115.7] has joined #debian
23:09-!-kozel [~kozel@103.3.46.13] has left #debian []
23:10-!-tuxampol [~tuxampol@ppp-188-174-113-147.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
23:11-!-Caroll [~caroll@189.123.217.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:13-!-UltimediaOS [~Ultimedia@ultimediaos.com] has joined #debian
23:15-!-tazz [~gaurav@59.162.86.164] has joined #debian
23:16-!-UltimediaOS [~Ultimedia@ultimediaos.com] has quit []
23:16-!-naz [~naz@27.109.111.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:16-!-user_ [~user@188-193-100-162-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:17-!-bruker [~bruker@17.79-161-33.customer.lyse.net] has joined #debian
23:17-!-UltimediaOS [~Ultimedia@ultimediaos.com] has joined #debian
23:20-!-UltimediaOS [~Ultimedia@ultimediaos.com] has quit []
23:23-!-ypwong [~anthony@123.123.197.81] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:23-!-bruker [~bruker@17.79-161-33.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:32-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-39-167.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #debian
23:32-!-ypwong [~anthony@199.48.229.86] has joined #debian
23:34-!-carisna [~carisna@93-40-40-198.ip37.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
23:36-!-robbiethe1st [~robbiethe@50-52-13-12.cral.id.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:38-!-mejsa1 [~misko@92-60-60-67.rev.bonet.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
23:39-!-dvs [~me@cwv.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:43-!-fabrianchi [~fabrianch@r186-48-39-167.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:46-!-Radius [~quassel@85.173.67.190] has joined #debian
23:49-!-aranax [~aranax@190.148.46.240] has joined #debian
---Logclosed Tue Apr 17 00:00:21 2012