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---Logopened Thu Apr 26 00:00:44 2012
00:00<toote>hagom: depends on what's the issue
00:01<hagom>thanks toote, I don't know if the problem is the gcc or the code I'm writing
00:02<hagom>I'm starting to work with geany
00:03<hagom>and I've been writing a few programs with it and the IDE tells me that everything is fine
00:03<hagom>that the program has no error
00:03<sney>leenuxx, if you get a desktop wifi card at some point 'in the future' by then, wheezy might be stable anyway. it's getting close to the freeze
00:04<hagom>but
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00:04<hagom>when a I run the program it fails, and fails with string capture
00:04<hagom>for example
00:05<sney>geany can only find syntax errors, afaik.
00:05<hagom>if I use gets(string) when I read another type of data for example a float variable the program fails there
00:06<toote>hagom: you'll probably have to ellaborate a lot more about exactly what you're doing
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00:06<toote>and, more importantly, how it relates to debian (justifying it to be discussed in this channel)
00:06<sney>syntax highlighting is useful to know that you didn't forget a ) somewhere but it can't write the code for you
00:07<hagom>it's not a problem of syntax because a lot of classmates has given me their codes and then I run them with geany and they fail exactly with the string capture
00:08<hagom>is there any way to fix this
00:08<hagom>?
00:08<toote>hagom: that's exactly what sney was telling you. it's not a syntax problem you're probably programming it wrong
00:08<hagom>I'm not
00:08<hagom>I swear
00:08<hagom>the code is good
00:08<sney>or you're missing some includes or something
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00:09<sney>geany is just an editor
00:09<hagom>solutions?
00:09<hagom>not using geany?
00:09<toote>sney: missing includes would make the program fail to compile
00:09<toote>hagom: you haven't explained your problem
00:09<hagom>the string capture
00:09<hagom>for example
00:10<sney>toote, oh, I thought that's what he was saying. I fill in the blanks wrong sometimes
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00:11<hagom>if I capture a string with gets(), when I try to capture another type of data for example a float, a bool , the program when it's been executed fails
00:12<hagom>how the programs fails
00:12<hagom>for example
00:12<hagom>I want to capture a name
00:12<toote>hagom: it's very likely because gets() only captures string data
00:12<hagom>with gets
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00:12<hagom>so far so good
00:13<hagom>but if the program ask me the salary (for example) and I declared a float salary variable the program skip that capture
00:13<hagom>it's the same behavior all the time
00:13<hagom>after capturing a string
00:13<toote>hagom: you're messing it up in your code
00:14<toote>because gets only captures strings
00:14<toote>if you want a float, you have to convert it afterwards
00:14<hagom>I know
00:14<hagom>but in that example I'm not capturing with gets
00:14<hagom>I'm capturing with scanf
00:14<toote>hagom: then you are not explaining your problem
00:14<toote>because you say that your problem was with gets, not with scanf
00:15<toote>now, if you want to discuss things not related to debian itself you will have to do so in a different channel
00:15<toote>I would suggest that if you are trying to troubleshoot code, you send a link to such code
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00:15<toote>debugging code "on the air" is complicated to say the least
00:16<hagom>I know but I have to try
00:16<hagom>because in college we use borland c++ 5.0
00:16<hagom>I'm from venezuela by the way
00:16<toote>still completely unrelated to this channel
00:16<toote>hagom: from argentina here
00:17<hagom>bueno toote, tenia q intentar porq busco y no encuentro el problema
00:17<hagom>y en la universidad uno haciendo los programas en borland no qdan muy buenos que digamos y eso nos ha costado nota
00:17<toote>hagom: sorry, this channel is english-only and for debian-related topics
00:17<toote>you want to discuss something else, you go to #debian-offtopic
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00:31<rainfyre>hey everyone. Is there a way to upgrade only one package from the terminal? I know I can do that in synaptic but I want to know how to do it from the command line
00:32<Ariii>Do you mean a complete package, like from apt-get?
00:34<rainfyre>yes exactly
00:34<rainfyre>I want to update icedove in knoppix
00:35<Ariii>Try this:
00:35<Ariii>sudo apt-get install icedove
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00:35<rainfyre>heh
00:35<rainfyre>ok, I"ll let you know, and thank you Ariii
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00:38<Ariii>Umm... How do you write the CD netinstall image in OS X? All it referred to is Disk Copy and Toast, both OS 9 Applications.
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00:40<rainfyre>Ariii: I don't understand what you mean
00:40<rainfyre>I have toast in OSX
00:41<rainfyre>the apt-get install icedove is working btw
00:41<Ariii>Oh, I meant to burn the CD. That is really weird, it shows up as a Classic application.
00:42<rainfyre>Ariii: what are you trying to burn?
00:42<Ariii>I'm trying to burn the NetBoot image for PowerPC Macs.
00:43<rainfyre>Ariii: wow. I just did that 2 days ago
00:43<Ariii>Oh
00:44<rainfyre>I burned the netinstall for squeeze using brasero
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00:44<rainfyre>i burned it on my g4 powerbook
00:44<rainfyre>running debian squeeze
00:44<rainfyre>worked perfectly too, we put squeeze on a g5 tower earlier this week.
00:44<rainfyre>ppc macs are where it's at
00:46<Ariii>^^^^^^Yess!!
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00:49<rainfyre>Ariii: I was surfing craigslist last night looking at g5 towers :) they're the best value in computers right now in my opinion
00:49<Ariii>Oh! How much can you usually get them for?
00:49<rainfyre>Ariii: and my g4 powerbook runs beautifully, and Apple isn't supporting the PPC port anymore, and neither is Ubuntu
00:50<rainfyre>Ariii: I saw a killer G5 last night, dual core, 160 gig drive for $200
00:50<Ariii>That's so depressing :(.
00:50<rainfyre>I forget how fast the processors are
00:50<rainfyre>but there were several
00:50<rainfyre>I know
00:51<rainfyre>it made me want to go out and buy them all, but I don't need even one. I've been researching how to install squeeze onto my mac mini.
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00:51<rainfyre>if I can't do a native linux install, I want to sell it because I never use it. OSX is a let down
00:51<Ariii>I usually pick up whatever I find for $50. I remember I got a really nice G4 iBook for $200 with Leopard until my sister spilled water on it (In a way).
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00:52<rainfyre>heh
00:52<rainfyre>my powerbook was $200, but it was completely babied
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00:55<Ariii>Oh! I'm thinking of buying a 17"" TiBook. Actually, most of my friends with Apples own MBP's but when they see mine, they tend to just sort of stare and sort of say "Is that even possible to use anymore...?"
00:55<rainfyre>same here
00:56<rainfyre>I totally appreciate Apple's build quality
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00:56<rainfyre>so an Apple running Debian is about the ultimate as far as I'm concerned
00:56<Ariii>Me too. I just wish they would put colors back into their Macs and take out the iOS lines.
00:56<rainfyre>my powerbook is a 17".
00:56<rainfyre>yeah no kidding
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00:57<Ariii>That is so weird. :0
00:57<rainfyre>what is?
00:58<Ariii>Oh, I posted it in the wrong window.
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00:58<rainfyre>ahh ok
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01:03<cujotus>hello
01:04<Ariii>Hi!
01:04<cujotus>my wheezy refuses to discover USB external harddrive
01:04<cujotus>udev is missing, and cant get udevinfo working
01:05<Ariii>Have you opened it in GParted? And what kind of computer are you using?
01:05<cujotus>gparted doesnt find it
01:05<cujotus>ubuntu finds it
01:06<leenuxx>hey, can someone tell me how to install latest version of VLC in squeeze... the older ver. seems to have a bug
01:06<cujotus>asus laptop
01:07<leenuxx>i was hoping it is in backports but don't see it
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01:08<Ariii>cujotus: Hmm... have you tried another USB drive or something?
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01:11<cujotus>arii, yes my usb stick works
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01:12<Ariii>Oh. That is really weird. Sorry.
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01:14<cujotus>device is western digital: WD5000H1u-00
01:15<jm_>check what kernel reports after you connect it
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01:15<cujotus>jm_: where is log file?
01:16<jm_>cujotus: just run "dmesg"
01:17<cujotus>doesnt report anything
01:18<cujotus>my asus laptop is K72DY
01:19<cujotus>partitions in usb are ntfs
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01:19<jm_>you mean kernel doesn't mention anything after you plugin the disc (which obviously needs to be powered on)?
01:20<cujotus>yes, it is powered on and doesnt report anything
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01:21<cujotus>kernel is 3.2.0-2-amd64
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01:22<jm_>and the other USB drive also works *now*?
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01:23<cujotus>yes
01:23<cujotus>its fat
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01:23<jm_>what does dmesg command show after you plugged it in?
01:24<cujotus>nothing
01:25<jm_>I don't believe you, just put the entire dmesg output to a pastebin (paste.debian.net)
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01:29<cujotus>http://paste.debian.net/165323/
01:30<jm_>so you have kingston datatraveller?
01:31<jm_>with one l then
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01:33<cujotus>its the fat usb stick working properly
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01:34<leenuxx>is there a multimedia section for debian irc?
01:35<leenuxx>i thought i could ask here :(
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01:35<jm_>ok can you now connect your WD disk and post dmesg again?
01:35<ros>
01:36<jm_>leenuxx: there's a mailing list for debian-multimedia site
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01:38<cujotus>http://paste.debian.net/165331/
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01:41<scientes>cuba33ci, whats the problems?
01:41<jm_>I only see you disconnecting the mouse
01:41<scientes><cujotus> my wheezy refuses to discover USB external harddrive
01:42<scientes>cujotus, use tail -f /var/log/kern.log and then unplug and plug it back in
01:42<scientes>so you can see stuff in real time
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01:44<cujotus>great got it working
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---Logopened Thu Apr 26 01:45:02 2012
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01:45<cujotus>very strange tho
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02:36<geoffr>Hi, we have ~1500 servers upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze in the last few months, since the upgrade we're now getting about 3 servers a night freezing (unresponsive on the console & logging just stops). All these boxes are running the default 32 bit squeeze kernel and software raid with a pretty standard LAMP installation on that. We have munin graphing on each which shows no spikes in cpu, memory, io or disk activity around the time of the free
02:36<geoffr>I really would appreciate any ideas on how to troubleshoot this
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02:37<bones_was_here>2.6.32 locks up sometimes, seems to be just how it is
02:37<jm_>try preventing console blanking and see if there's anything on screen - do they have keyboards attached?
02:37<bones_was_here>i don't use it on any servers
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02:38<geoffr>the screen's not blank at freeze-up time, shows a normal login prompt but that's unresponsive
02:38<geoffr>bones_was_here: you using the bpo 3.2 ?
02:38<bones_was_here>for me, 2.6.32 locks up in relation to usb, firewire, and proprietary graphics drivers
02:38<bones_was_here>geoffr: on some machines yeah, no issues with the bpo 3.2 for me yet
02:39<bones_was_here>other machines i'm still using 39 or 31
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02:40<geoffr>mmm ok, would be a bugger if we had to upgrade all those kernels also we use ksplice so we'd have to see if that works but if that's the solution....
02:43<geoffr>bones_was_here: had you seen other people with the same issue? I just ask at it'll be a big sell to change kernels
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02:45<bones_was_here>geoffr: i have yeah, note that most of the cases i've seen 2.6.32 hang were desktops, after those problems i didn't bother trying it on many servers
02:45<geoffr>bones_was_here: great thanks
02:46<bones_was_here>an example: one older intel chipset, in combo with 2.6.32, would hang reliably if a usb memory was plugged in and out a few times, regardless of whether it got mounted
02:47<gdb>I've had no issues with 2.6.32 on either i386 or amd64 Squeeze.
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02:48<bones_was_here>another: while capturing DV over firewire from an old digital tape camera, reconnect some usb storage a few times
02:48<bones_was_here>(same machine didn't hang with that kernel when plugging usb storage, when not capturing DV)
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02:59<chealer>geoffr: you have no indication that only some of these servers are affected?
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03:10<geoffr>chealer: sorry had to got to meeting quick - the freeze ups are very random, happening on different servers at different times, sometimes days or weeks apart for a single box
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03:12<chealer>geoffr: but do certain servers seem more affected? is there something common to servers which already crashed?
03:12<geoffr>we don't have any unusual hardware installed, no USB, onboard intel & realtek nics on stock intel motherboards
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03:13<geoffr>chealer: by more affected they have maybe frozen 2 or 3 times, but each night it's often a completely new box(es) that will need a hw reset
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03:14<geoffr>we never had this happening while still on Lenny (we did the upgrade on all about 3 months ago)
03:16<geoffr>and there's been no hardware changes on the vast majority of the boxes. on the worst box we did a hardware swap with no change, we've since done a OS reinstall (not upgrade from Lenny) and since then it appears to have stabilized
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03:44<scientes>how do i turn on the linux2.6 personality in debian
03:44<scientes>for an app?
03:44<scientes>i only see linux32 linux64
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07:07<AndChat|>Hey all I'm Havering a problem installing wondered if anyone has away around
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07:08<AndChat|>I'm installing debian useing mini ISO amd64 on a laptop already installed with win7
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07:09<AndChat|>All goes perfect EXCEPT grub
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07:09<jm_>you can try installing it manually on tty2, or if it's already installled -- /msg dpkg fixmbr
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07:10<jm_>(that is if debian is already installed(
07:10<AndChat|>I tell it to not go over my mbr and to install to (hd0,5) and it just gives me faital error
07:10<jm_>why did you opt for that?
07:11<AndChat|>Well from guides I found says don't overwrite win7 boot and 5was my boot part
07:12<tramm_>i have an ecoding problem updating owner of a bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655927
07:12<jm_>how do you plan on booting into debian then?
07:12<tramm_>i'm setting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed and everything seems to be fine, but resulting string includes some utf-8 agnostic artefacts
07:15<AndChat|>Using easyBDC to edit windows
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07:15<AndChat|>that's what Althea guide I found most generally useful surgested
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07:16<jm_>i recommend installing grub into mbr and use that to boot windows, but if that's not what you want to do, simply try installing grub in tty and see what it says
07:17<AndChat|>Grub to load windows better?
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07:17<jm_>well it works fine, i'll let you decide which is better
07:18<AndChat|>Ok ill run through and see if mbr works 2 mins
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07:20<Sillencer> how can I share equally the bandwith between PC's if I use the server as a gateway ?
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07:21<jm_>Sillencer: read advanced routing howto
07:22<SynrG>AndChat|: there is a potential problem with win7 overwriting stuff in the mbr that grub writes there, breaking booting back to debian.
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07:25<Sillencer>jm_: can you give me a hint ? I found how to just share the connection, but I need to share the bandwith equally, it happens that someone is using all the bandwith
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07:27<jm_>Sillencer: you'll need to do several things: a) create relevant classes, b) mark the packets from that PC, c) put them in the right class etc. - it's not a trivial thing; I only used it to limit speeds on global level, which is simplified by using wondershaper package these days
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07:28<SynrG>AndChat|: not sure if that's win7 per se, or certain software (e.g. antivirus) that writes to the MBR. sorry, don't have a link for you on that, but if you have that sort of issue, you can find plenty of articles out there.
07:28<SynrG>otherwise, having grub boot both OSes really is best
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07:29<AndChat|>So grub on mbr and have it loading both then you mean sorry only just replying setting package install part going
07:30<Sillencer>jm_: Tnx, think I'll just try wondershaper
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07:32<SynrG>AndChat|: try again in complete English sentences?
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07:33<ToeKnee>Does anyone know if the debian ruby package has Systemtap probes??
07:36<SynrG>ToeKnee: depends. are those patches accepted upstream?
07:36<AndChat|>So you say to install grub on mbr and edit it to boot win7 and debian. Therefore removing the windows mbr ?
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07:37<jm_>AndChat|: you don't need to edit it if you install os-prober package - it should detect it on its own and add an entry to grub.cfg
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07:37<SynrG>correct. and in fact, there is no "and edit it". when you have os-prober installed and run 'update-grub' as root, it should automatically detect Windows 7 and add it to your grub menu
07:37<SynrG>normally you should have os-prober installed by default
07:38<AndChat|>Ok I see ill try that now then thank you
07:38<SynrG>(that is, assuming you have already installed grub to your mbr)
07:38<ToeKnee>SynrG: I don't know. There doesn't seem to be much information on it. The best I have come across is at http://lukas.zapletalovi.com/2012/01/probing-ruby-apps-with-systemtap-in.html which was linked from http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki
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07:40<SynrG>ToeKnee: i would guess probably not, then. i see nothing about it in the changelogs, in any case
07:40<SynrG>you could try using the debian source package and apply a patch to it
07:41<SynrG>!package recompile
07:41<dpkg>1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>.
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07:41<ToeKnee>SynrG: Thanks, I'll have a go at that.
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07:57<AndChat|>Sweet debian all up and running now thanks guys: ) now to just sort out wireless
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08:04<jm_>!wifi
08:04<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <killswitch>, <wpa>, <wlan howto>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
08:04<jm_>AndChat| ^^^^^^
08:04<jm_>check the wiki
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08:45<alex_>hello
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08:46<alex_>what
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08:48<indigo>does anyone know of a utility that would allow me to know what processes are performing io on a particular device? iotop is close, but doesn't provide any way to restrict the reporting to a specific device.
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09:12<AndChat|>Hi I'm back with no luck setting up wireless :(
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09:13<AndChat|>Installed the right driver for bcm43225 but still not finding wireless
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09:15<AndChat|>Anyone have any idea why
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09:23<Guest1767>AndChat|: fwcutter?
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09:30<gnugr>AndChat-:are you the same person (AndChat|)?
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09:37<saykyo>hi everyone, I have a querstion regarding a hypothetical situation: let's say I have a machine which uses the current squeeze stable repository and I install a package from squeeze-backports. What happens when the version in squeeze-stable changes? Is the package automatically upgraded back to stable or does the system keep it from backports?
09:38<mikegrb>which ever has a higher version number
09:39<themill>saykyo: the version in squeeze will never be higher than the version in squeeze-backports
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09:40<saykyo>themill: alright, so it will just keep upgrading the package using backports
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09:40<saykyo>thank you very much
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09:40<themill>saykyo: yes, presuming you've not done anything odd in your pinning -- that's certainly the default setup
09:40<microcluster>some solution for this error?
09:41<microcluster>Disabling laptop mode...Following symlink from /dev/scd0 to /dev/sr0.
09:41<microcluster>Polling is already disabled on the given drive.
09:41<microcluster>Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
09:41<microcluster> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
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09:49<it9001>Hi Everybody
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09:50<gry>hello
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09:54<Sicelo>gry: :)
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10:20<xX>L:
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10:20<xX>Hi
10:21<sney>hi.
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10:21<microcluster>hi
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10:22<microcluster>some solution for error
10:22<sney>!ask
10:22<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:22<microcluster>Disabling laptop mode...Following symlink from /dev/scd0 to /dev/sr0.
10:22<microcluster>Polling is already disabled on the given drive.
10:22<microcluster>Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
10:22<microcluster> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported
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10:23<sney>if you have something to paste, put it on http://paste.debian.net/ and link it
10:23<microcluster>i use debian squeeze 6.0.4
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10:23<microcluster>ok sney
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10:26<SynrG>blah. i am proofing a bare metal recovery procedure which basically goes like: boot rescue, build a new raid array, restore backup to raid array, fix up fstab, grub, update-initramfs -u -k all. stuck at "failed to assemble all arrays" on reboot of restored system :/
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10:26<SynrG>i'm missing something obvious, i'm sure, but i have no idea what
10:26<SynrG>oh yeah, and also created a new mdadm.conf with /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf
10:27<sney>maybe try it without the mdadm.conf and see if md can detect and assemble the arrays on its own?
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10:28<SynrG>sney: you mean remove it? hmm
10:29<SynrG>i can assemble the array from the rescue disk. it's just when booting it fails
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10:29<sney>ime md is pretty good at figuring out arrays without a config file
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10:31<sney>any significant md or kernel version discrepancies between rescue disk and installed system?
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10:31<SynrG>needs a new update-initramfs -u -k all ?
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10:32<SynrG>no, but using a squeeze 6.0.1 rescue disk to recover a system that was originally installed using the same disk but updated since then
10:32<SynrG>by updated, i mean, it is still squeeze, just up-to-date
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10:34<sney>SynrG, does it get any more verbose than 'failed to assemble all arrays' if you boot without quiet?
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10:36<SynrG>sney: will retry that. btw, from (intiramfs) prompt, rm /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf , mdadm --assemble --scan then exit, and it boots successfully but says it failed to start MD
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10:37<sney>boots successfully? can you assemble the arrays now that it's booted?
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10:39<SynrG>it says the root filesystem is /dev/md127
10:40<sney>yea, that's md's default node for an array it found itself.
10:40<SynrG>the uuid looks the same as before. that would be why it works
10:43<SynrG>hm. the name of the raid array is debian:0 but my hostname is dvis2
10:43<SynrG>would that account for the failure? (looking at mkconf output)
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10:43<SynrG>i did this bare metal recovery procedure in multiple steps, slightly varying what i tried each time as i discovered new things
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10:44<SynrG>i had probably accepted the default hostname 'debian' without thinking of the consequences when i first assembled the RAID array
10:44<sney>possibly, but changing the hostname shouldn't render your raid inoperable
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10:46<SynrG>well, i'm baffled. dunno how to vary the restore process to ensure this doesn't happen again
10:46<SynrG>probably the Rescue disk's RAID configuration makes its own mdadm.conf and i walked on that in my backup restore. that was a mistake
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10:47<sney>you should verify whether it does
10:47<SynrG>whether that's my only mistake ... i don't know ... i should probably do a clean restore
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10:47<SynrG>sigh (about the 10th time doing this :)
10:47<sney>sounds "fun"
10:47<SynrG>mhm
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10:54<Sillencer>Can someone explain me why I don't have iptables in /etc/init.d ???
10:55<grove>How to list all installed non-essential packages?
10:55<abrotman>Sillencer: you're not supposed to
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10:55<grove>Sillencer: Why do you think you should have?
10:56<abrotman>grove: aptiude search '~i~poptional'
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10:56<grove>abrotman: Thanks
10:56<Sillencer>Dunno, in some tutorials there is /etc/init.d/iptables save
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10:57<Sillencer>how does iptables work in debian, I don't get it
10:57<abrotman>Sillencer: tutorials for which distro ?
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11:00<Sillencer>abrotman: gentoo :D But there is one for debian also, but he created the iptables in /etc/init.d
11:00<abrotman>yes .. he *created*
11:00<abrotman>!tell Sillencer about iptables
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11:01<Sillencer>ok, tnx...
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11:02<abrotman>Sillencer: not sure if the wiki covers it, but generally use pre-up in your intefaes file intead
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11:06<Sillencer>abrotman: tnx, I'll try to use wiki, but it looks kind of messed up... it was easier with just writing /etc/init.d/iptables save than all this mess with files
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11:12<abrotman>Sillencer: you can do it however yu'd like ..
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11:27<judiiy>olaa
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11:27<judiit>olaa
11:28<abrotman>hi?
11:28<abrotman>!es
11:28<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
11:28<judiit>hello
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11:28<judiit>hi¿?
11:28<abrotman>do you have a Debian question?
11:29<judiit>no I don´t
11:29<judiit>why¿?
11:29<abrotman>This channel is for Debian support, it is not a social channel
11:29<judiit>okey
11:30<judiit>can you speak with me?
11:30<judiit>:)
11:30<abrotman>about what?
11:30<judiit>I don´t no
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11:31<abrotman>have a nice day
11:31<judiit>good
11:31<judiit>I =
11:32<judiit>do you like red color¿?
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11:32<themill>judiit: perhaps ask in #moocows
11:32<judiit>pos ok
11:32-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
11:32-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@194.212.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] by abrotman
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11:33<abrotman>judiit: I told you this was not a social channel, try #moocows .. Have a nice day
11:33<jgalt>just ran tasksel, selected desktop, laptop, ans ssh server tasks... how can I get gnome 3 to start? how can I get it to come up on boot?
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11:38<sney>jgalt, it should do so automatically if you installed the full gnome3 desktop task.
11:39<jgalt>sney: just comming up to console when booted
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11:40<sney>hrm, make sure you have gdm3 installed
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11:45<jgalt>sney: well, after rerunning tasksel, it boots to gnome 3. how do I get the look and feel of my old desktop back (gnome2)?
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11:47<ipineiro>Hi all, i have a problem with repository i create a emdebian mirror and now i added packages that i need, with dpkg-scanpackages i update the mirror but now when i do "apt-get update" from my client i get error "error hash sign differs"
11:47<ipineiro>what i can do? :S
11:47<sney>jgalt, you don't, at least not currently. there might eventually be one of the gnome2 forks available in debian but for now just try using gnome3
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11:48<sney>oh, apparently MATE has a repo available for wheezy. no idea about the quality and of course it's not supported here
11:49<jgalt>what about kde?
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11:49<Sillencer>Again, iptables...
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11:50<ipineiro>Hi all, i have a problem with repository i create a emdebian mirror and now i added packages that i need, with dpkg-scanpackages i update the mirror but now when i do "apt-get update" from my client i get error "error hash sign differs"
11:50<sney>jgalt, wheezy is currently on kde 4.7, there are some metapackages to install a few different kde setups
11:50<sney>!tell jgalt -about install kde
11:50<Sillencer>Made my firewall script in /etc/network/if-up.d, but it doesn't exec on startup
11:51<sney>ipineiro, please wait more than 2 minutes to repeat your question...
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11:51<ipineiro>ok
11:51<ipineiro>sorry sney
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12:01<codek>Hi all, i have a problem with repository i create a emdebian mirror and now i added packages that i need, with dpkg-scanpackages i update the mirror but now when i do "apt-get update" from my client i get error "error hash sign differs"
12:01<SynrG>seriously? three times?
12:01<SynrG>also, if you're failing to get help here, try #emdebian
12:01<SynrG>i think you'll find most people here are not that familiar with emdebian
12:02<codek>yes but..
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12:02<codek>its a repository i think is same at debian
12:02<codek>:S
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12:02<codek>but ok, sorry
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12:02<codek>i dont say it more times
12:02<SynrG>honestly, i have no idea how emdebian differs, so it may well be an emdebian-specific issue.
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12:03<codek>ok
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12:03<codek>thank you
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12:05<SynrG>as for your hash mismatch with dpkg-scanpackages, sounds like you're not using the tool properly, somehow. but i'm not familiar with that package, either, so i can't help with it. maybe someone else here knows?
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12:07<codek>it seems that nobody hehe
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12:14<jgalt>what would be involved in getting cinnamon into testing?
12:14<Quentin>hello, anyone here
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12:15<rainfyre>hi
12:15<Quentin>大家好!
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12:17<Quentin>I am just a new guy, using my mobile to send message, and I am from China
12:17<Quentin>Now it is 00:17 am
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12:19<Quentin>if anyone wanna to kowe about China more, send messages to me!
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12:22<gnugr>jgalt:with debian+wheezy+lxde+cinnamon you can get it
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12:30<jgalt>gnugr: running wheezy... couldn't find cinnamon in the repo. what's the lxde part of it?
12:30<retrospectacus>cinnamon isn't in debian (yet)
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12:32<gnugr>jgalt:as i mentioned only through lxde
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12:33<jgalt>gnugr: what is lxde?
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12:37<gnugr>!tell jgalt -about lxde
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12:43<jgalt>the dpkg answer on window manager is flawed - winman.org is now being developed as the site of kevin winman, not a comparison of window managers.
12:44<jgalt>ok, I feel dumb... the answer is ok
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12:45<jgalt>I just can't type. it's xwinman.org NOT WINMAN.ORG
12:46<gnugr>jgalt:see this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC1WzjiR7Dg
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13:00<jgalt>gnugr: isn't the point of cinnamon to give gnome3 a gnome2 look and feel? still trying to figure out what running cinnamon on lxde does that lxde would not alone. I'm trying to get back to a desktop that more resembles the start menu/submenu model.
13:01<gnugr>jgalt:what kind of enviroment you want?
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13:02<abrotman>jgalt: yes, that is the point of running cinnamon
13:02<abrotman>jgalt: and you wouldn't run cinnamon on top of LXDE
13:03<abrotman>jgalt: there is an ITP for Cinnamon already I believe
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13:03<jgalt>gnugr: like gnome 2 was and M$ windows and, even OSX is still.
13:03<abrotman>dpkg: dbugs 657395
13:03<dpkg>#657395:W[wnpp] ITP: cinnamon -- Cinnamon desktop (); Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:03:05 UTC []
13:04<abrotman>jgalt: lxde alone would be similar, or icewm can be made to do that also
13:04<abrotman>i have no idea why cinnamon+lxde was ever mentioned
13:04<SynrG>sney: solved. don't know how i screwed it up before, and don't care. moving on :)
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13:05<jgalt>abrotman: seems running cinnamon with lxde is what gnugr was suggesting. I could have misunderstood that
13:05<gnugr>jgalt:if you want gnome2 just stay with squeeze/stable plus backports and will be happy
13:05<abrotman>jgalt: i should point out.. gnugr minght be insane ..
13:06<abrotman>jgalt: si this for your use, or someone else?
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13:09<jgalt>abrotman: mixed use actually. mainly my own but others use it as well, and I'm looking to roll out across the office and I certainly wouldn't give gnome3 to a bunch of native windows an osx users to be productive on
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13:09<abrotman>jgalt: Gnome3 isn't that hard to use .. but i can understand your hestitation, it's a different method of interacting (personally, I like it quite a bit)
13:10<abrotman>jgalt: LXDE is pretty similar to how Windows works. I even mapped Ctrl-esc to launch the menu and ctrl-r to show a Run box
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13:10<abrotman>(works really well on a netbook)
13:10<abrotman>jgalt: if Cinnamon were in Debian, I could maybe see using that
13:11<rainfyre>Cinnamon is in LMDE now
13:11<abrotman>but this is #debian .. that doesn't help anyone here
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13:12<jgalt>abrotman: I'll work at learning it, but now after suffering without my main dev box for a week I just want to get work done!
13:13<abrotman>heh, understandable :)
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13:13<gnugr>jgalt:personaly i had gnome3 for about 4 months and i turned to kde
13:14<jgalt>the stuff being targeted toward netbooks has the thinking that they are overgrown phones trying to be underpowered computers.
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13:15<abrotman>LXDE wasn't designed fornetbooks i don't think .. it just works well there .. lightweight, and easy to use
13:16<jgalt>gnugr: it's not taking me that long, lol, kde is installing as we speak.
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13:16<jgalt>lxde and xfce are next...
13:16*abrotman doesn't understand why people don't like it .. it works pretty darn well
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13:17<gnugr>jgalt:you will not regret using kde
13:18<youlysses>abrotman: GNOME 3?
13:18<abrotman>yes
13:18<jgalt>abrotman: it likely works well, but it's just enough different that one must relearn it. people alsi tend to resist change
13:18<abrotman>but i should point out, i'm not an average DE user
13:19*abrotman would rather suffer through learning gnome3 than use kde4 .. yay opinions and preferences
13:20<youlysses>Most casual users I've shown LOVE it. (Mom, Sister, Friends, Etc) You know, "Normal Poeple". It's the "Hardcore" users who used GNOME2 and thinks they're l33t who are so opposed to it.
13:20<abrotman>works fine for me
13:20<gnugr>abrotman:yes, works very well, but it is a pain on a laptop without a mouse (i mean gnome3)
13:20<abrotman>gnugr: i use it on a laptop .. try again
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13:21<youlysses>GNOME3 and the direction it's going is GREAT for a vast majority of users, and if it's not "hardcore" enough, shutup and use dwm/emacs. :-P
13:21<abrotman>as a matter of fact, it works better as a laptop user than gnome2 did
13:21<abrotman>(for me anyway)
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13:21*gnugr hehe no more gnome for me,i'm in love with kde
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13:22<abrotman>right .. and they won't miss you .. trust me
13:22<rainfyre>abrotman: I like Gnome 3 too
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13:22<jgalt>youlysses: vi :P
13:22<youlysses>Oh it does too, imho. It's in that sweet spot between The Desktop space and the Mobile Space. Future proof baby.
13:23<youlysses>jgalt: I use emacs as my OS, wi cannot provide that, afaik. ;-)
13:23<youlysses>*vi
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13:24<youlysses>Even though I have thought about rewriting dwm to work better with emacs fulltime though. :-P
13:24<gnugr>youlysses:guru Stallman also uses emacs
13:26<youlysses>* and designed.
13:26<gnugr>sure
13:26<jgalt>youlysses: yes you were talking hardcore... but I won't engage the vi/emacs battle that could go on and on while being more related to philosophy than debian.
13:27<youlysses>Honestly though, if you're willing to put the time into it... EMACS is one if the best pieces of software for just about anything.
13:27<abrotman>mmm kde vs gnome and vi vs emacs in teh sapce of 10 minutes
13:27<jgalt>I run an editor not an os...
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13:28<youlysses>jgalt: I will not fight over an editor, even an editor that yes, is essentially an OS. :-)
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13:32<youlysses>jgalt: It is hard to debate that it is an editor, and not a platform with an editor included though... Like right now I'm doing irc via emacs, and listenitg to music ... via emacs!
13:32<jgalt>youlysses: yes, I'm just laughing at the humor of it. different preferences make the spice of life. abrotman summed it up well. but no need to discuss religion here, lol
13:32<abrotman>there is #debian-offtopic if you want to keep going
13:34<youlysses>abrotman:True.
13:34<jgalt>abrotman: thanks, I was trying to end that, just having a bit of fun that's all. apologies if it carried too far.
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14:41<mororokvirc>Hey guys I have a problem I can not give or apt-get update and even upgrade. I guess I have an older version of Debian for about a year or two old. He writes me a 404 error when trying to apt-get. There is a simple procedure to correct?.
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14:43<heikkila>mororokvirc, lenny?
14:43<mororokvirc>heikkila: yes
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14:43<dvs>!lenny->squeeze
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14:44<dvs>dpkg, lenny->squeeze
14:44<dpkg>Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <release notes>.
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14:46<mororokvirc>Will it have any impact on the software installed? (apache, java)? Because today I do not have much time to reinstall everything
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14:48<dvs>mororokvirc: You won't have to reinstall the packages again
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14:53<kop>mororokvirc: You should really read the release notes to see what might go wrong and how to fix it.
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15:17<rainfyre>can someone please tell me how to set the time/date on my machine? I would like it to just sync to something online, but right now my computer thinks it's Feb of 2009
15:17<prueba>hola soy nuevo en el irc y estoy probando, gracias por su comprension y tengan un buen dia
15:17<rainfyre>prueba: welcome
15:17<themill>rainfyre: ntp should do that for you; /msg dpkg ntp
15:17<rainfyre>thank you, themill
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15:18<rainfyre>irc is the bomb
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15:18<kop>!tell prueba about es
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15:24<MTecknology>What's the way you're supposed to pick a users editor?
15:27<retrospectacus>pardon?
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15:28<rainfyre>MTecknology: what do you mean?
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15:28<MTecknology>sensible-editor .. that's what I was trying to figure out
15:29<daemonkeeper>MTecknology: update-alternatives --list editor
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15:31<MTecknology>daemonkeeper: In the script, I'm going to use selected-editor, if that command doesn't exist attempt fallback to vi, if that doesn't exist throw an error
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15:31<daemonkeeper>You mean sensible-editor? It does: ${EDITOR:-editor} "$@"
15:31<MTecknology>oh
15:32<MTecknology>... that's even better :D
15:32<daemonkeeper>Also: $ ls -l /usr/bin/editor
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15:33<MTecknology>oh
15:34<MTecknology>${EDITOR:-${SELECTED_EDITOR:-editor}}
15:35<sig_wall>u forgot ${VISUAL}
15:36<daemonkeeper>I don't know what you're trying to do, but it sounds wrong.
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15:39<MTecknology>daemonkeeper: I just grabbed that from /usr/bin/sensible-editor
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15:39<daemonkeeper>Squeeze?
15:40<themill>MTecknology: why not just run /usr/bin/sensible-editor?
15:40<MTecknology>themill: I am
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15:40<themill>MTecknology: then there's nothing more to do...
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15:41<MTecknology>nope, just added a check to make sure sensible-editor exists
15:41<daemonkeeper>That's what sensible-editor is for already.
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16:16<andresvia>Hi.
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16:16<heikkila>hi
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16:17<andresvia>Is there something like a post-down script for ppp connections, something to execute after pppd termination?
16:17<Sicelo>afaicr yes
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16:18<Sicelo>andresvia: /etc/ppp/ip{v6}-down and /etc/ppp/ip{v6}-down.d/
16:19<andresvia>Sicelo: /etc/ppp/ip-down is executed while pppd process is still running, and I see no /etc/ppp/if-post-down like in /etc/network/
16:19<Sicelo>hmm :/
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16:35<heikkila>andresvia, maybe you can have post-down command in /etc/network/interfaces
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16:43<diakite>hello
16:44<diakite>hello evrybody
16:44<diakite>am newcomer here please need help
16:44<devil>just ask
16:46<diakite>I've been installing unbutu-desktop on my laptop.is it rihgt or not?
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16:46<themill>diakite: you'd want #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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16:50<diakite>I said I installed the version of ubuntu desktop on my laptop,is it a problem ??
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16:51<retrospectacus>diakite: this is the Debian channel. You want #ubuntu
16:51<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc diakite
16:51<dpkg>diakite: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
16:52<diakite>ok how to go to the right channel?
16:52<retrospectacus>read.
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17:34<wibis1523>hi
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17:47<EmleyMoor>I'm getting "slow and sticky" network performance, especially to ftp.uk.debian.org
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18:26<Ariii>Hi! How do you burn the Debian disk in OS X? My computer says it has an unmountable file system.
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18:28<retrospectacus>Ariii: however you normally burn CDs in OSX. If you don't know you should ask in a Mac-related channel
18:28<themill>Ariii: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20060619181010389 (I've never done this myself... but this is what Google suggests...)
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18:29<Ariii>Sorry, I forgot that I used Disk Utility and that the file-system wouldn't mount. It's for the NetInstall CD.
18:29<rainfyre>Ariii: use Disk Utility
18:29<rainfyre>Ariii: what file system wouldn't mount? You're just burning an iso
18:30<Ariii>The file system on the .iso. The FAQ said it should include the files inside, not just the disk image, so I think that means it should probably mount.
18:31<retrospectacus>you *can* mount an ISO but that's not usually what you want to do. What FAQ, what are you trying to do?
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18:32<Ariii>Heres the link: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#what-is
18:32<Ariii>It says this, "For a correctly written CD, the .iso file must not appear on the CD when you access it! Instead, you should see a number of files and directories - in the case of a Debian CD, this includes a "dists" directory and a "README.html" file."
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18:33<Ariii>By the way, it's for PowerPC.
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18:42<coruja>Ariii, http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20060619181010389 may help you more
18:43<rainfyre>aww, people here are so helpful
18:44<rainfyre>Ariii: yeah, I've burned iso's on my mac with Disk Utility. Just tell it to burn it and choose the netinst.iso. OSX is pretty smart about it.
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18:46<Ariii>That's weird... using the standard Disk Utility, my Mac said it had an unmountable filesystem again, and upon booting my Clamshell gave me the folder torn in half upon booting.
18:48<Ariii>I'll try burning it onto a flash drive and booting from that.
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18:52<rainfyre>shoot. ppc macs don't boot from flash drives..
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19:34<Broam>Hi folks. Having an issue with r300 in testing.
19:34<Broam>If I install the non-free firmware for acceleration, X can't find a vt & eventually the box just hangs
19:35<Broam>no firmware? boots fine
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19:37<Broam>Think I'll see if it has the same issue in stable.
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19:40<leenuxx>I can't upgrade VLC and the videolan channel is not active or ignoring me, can anyone help?
19:41<Jen>leenuxx: what seems to be the problem? And I doubt they're ignoring you, but channels don't always have people actively monitoring enquiries
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20:09<chealer>!tell leenuxx about anyone
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20:13<Jen>chealer: don't think it'll work :P
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20:33<jlj>is there any guide or such to setup pulseaudio for network streaming on debian without using gui tools?
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20:54<g0dfrey>it seems that settings with net.ipv4.conf.all don't have any effects on other intefaces
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20:59<g0dfrey>"When you change variables in the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all directory, the variable for all interfaces and default will be changed as well."
20:59<g0dfrey>Is this true?
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21:08<leenuxx>Jen: still here?/
21:08<Jen>Just about
21:08<leenuxx>I'm trying to upgrade my version of VLC
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21:08<leenuxx>prob is I'm using Squeeze and they have the older outdated version
21:09<leenuxx>this is the msg output:
21:09<Jen>leenuxx: try http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
21:09<leenuxx>W: Failed to fetch http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
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21:09<robbiethe1st>So enable unstable sources, grab it with apt-get, disable them again
21:10<leenuxx>been there, done that :-(
21:10<Jen>robbiethe1st: +1
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21:10<leenuxx>change entire repo from squeeze to sid?
21:11<robbiethe1st>Yes.
21:11<robbiethe1st>Then do apt-get update. Then apt-get install vlc
21:11<robbiethe1st>Then go in there and change em back to squeeze, apt-get update
21:11<robbiethe1st>Will make sure that only vlc and it's dependancies are upgraded
21:12<leenuxx>ok... so, it's the same as using the videolan one
21:12<leenuxx>right?
21:12<robbiethe1st>It's whatever version is in the debian unstable/sid repo
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21:12<robbiethe1st>May need to use the experimental repo instead if it has the version you want
21:12<robbiethe1st>But it works fine anyway
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21:15<Haywood|Jablome>say whut
21:15<Haywood|Jablome>http://www.haxradio.com ~The Stream the FBI Listens too...
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21:17<Jen>:D
21:17<Jen>shameless plug, Haywood|Jablome
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21:19<Haywood|Jablome>tru
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21:21<kop>robbiethe1st, leenuxx : Mixing releases is a great way to permanently break your system. Instead, see the <overview> factoid. (in irc type: /msg dpkg overview )
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21:23<robbiethe1st>Eh, I do it all the time. It can take some fixing if you mess with stuff that's got deep roots in your system, like X, but hey, my system runs X from Experimental on top of a Unstable system. Works fine.
21:24<kop>robbiethe1st: Just because you can do it with experimental/unstable does not mean that it won't totally break a regular debian system.
21:24<robbiethe1st>Installing VLC certainly won't. Either VLC works or it won't.
21:25<kop>robbiethe1st: Experimental and unstable are permanently broken anyway.
21:25<kop>robbiethe1st: You think that vnc does not need any libraries or has no other dependences? Things it needs other things need too, and they may not work with newer versions.
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21:25<Haywood|Jablome>those guys in the ubuntu irc are lamers
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21:26<gry>?
21:26<kop>robbiethe1st: Instead see the <ssb> factoid, or even the wiki url in the <overview> factoid.
21:26<leenuxx>well, if the videolan ppl weren't so incompetent, it would be easy
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21:26<leenuxx>maybe i'll just avoid using videolan in linux and use mplayer instead
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21:27<kop>leenuxx: What version of debian?
21:27<robbiethe1st>Squeeze
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21:27<robbiethe1st>for him
21:27<kop>!tell leenuxx about overview
21:27<leenuxx>Squeeze!
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21:28<leenuxx>I guess I could upgrade to wheezy just to use the latest VLC ...lol (going crazy!)
21:28<Haywood|Jablome>hey any idea when wheezy is going to main?
21:28<kop>leenuxx: Are you sure you need the latest, and are not just being bitten because debian proper does not distribute certain codecs for legal reasons?
21:28<Haywood|Jablome>not impatient, just curious
21:29<kop>!tell Haywood|Jablome about guess the release date
21:29<Haywood|Jablome>plz do
21:29<leenuxx>I followed the exact instructions here...to the letter: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
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21:29<leenuxx>kop: no, i found some bug... so, i looked into upgrading... didn't realize it was going to be such a big deal
21:30<leenuxx>kop: I was told the older one has security issues anyway
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21:30<kop>leenuxx: See footnote 1 of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware Of course you can do as you like, and in specific cases there may be better alternatives.
21:30<Gerowen>Anybody know how I could convert a video with mono sound into stereo so it comes out of both speakers?
21:30<kop>leenuxx: The debian security team backports and fixes security issues.
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21:30<kop>leenuxx: Did you look in backports?
21:31<Haywood|Jablome>ya know the one thing that really erks me about debian squeeze, I wish someone would fix the clipboard
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21:31<Haywood|Jablome>like if I copy something from a document then close the document, BAM! its gone from my clipboard when I go to paste
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21:31<Haywood|Jablome>that should be corrected
21:31<kop>Haywood|Jablome: stable does not change, except for security problems.
21:31<Haywood|Jablome>its very annoying
21:32<kop>Haywood|Jablome: How are you copying? The sane way is to highlight with the mouse. Then use the middle mouse button to paste.
21:32<Haywood|Jablome>sir, I think I know how to copy and paste
21:32<kop>Haywood|Jablome: You didn't answer my question.
21:32<Haywood|Jablome>imho, its a bug
21:32<kop>Haywood|Jablome: There is, in fact, more than one way to copy and paste and more than one clipboard.
21:33<Haywood|Jablome>if you insist, I highlight what I want to copy, right click, copy, then I close the document, then go to right click another document and paste, and WHOOPS, clipboard is gone, unless I leave the original document open
21:33<Haywood|Jablome>same with control c/v
21:33<kop>Haywood|Jablome: (I don't know a lot more than that, except that interactions between the two clipboards have historically been a source of problems.)
21:34<Gerowen>Haywood|Jablome - Install parcellite, it's a clipboard manager that sits in your system tray.
21:34<Haywood|Jablome>k ill give it a try
21:34<kop>Haywood|Jablome: If you just hilighted, then closed, then opened your other document and middle clicked to paste it would work.
21:34<Haywood|Jablome>yeah I switched from XP to debian about a year ago, and havent gone back
21:34<kop>Haywood|Jablome: It's also a lot easier.
21:35<Haywood|Jablome>why would middle click work
21:35<Haywood|Jablome>why not just right click and select paste
21:35<kop>Haywood|Jablome: That's how unix pastes. You don't need the extra clicks.
21:35<Haywood|Jablome>that should work too, but if I close the source document before I paste, its gone from the clipboard
21:35<Haywood|Jablome>thats the bug
21:35<Gerowen>kop: I never knew that middle click was a shortcut to paste until you said that just now...
21:35<kop>Haywood|Jablome: Highlight, then middle click. No other fussing.
21:35<Haywood|Jablome>well, I still think it should be fixed
21:36<Haywood|Jablome>most windows users who convert are not going to like that
21:36<kop>Haywood|Jablome: Probably has to do with X clipboards vs the other kind. As I said, it causes problems.
21:36<Gerowen>Haywood|Jablome: That bug is fixed for me by using parcellite, I've had it happen, but when I click on parcellite's icon, the stuff I just copied is still there, so you can just highlight it and it puts it back.
21:36<Haywood|Jablome>it appears to be a bug to us
21:36<Haywood|Jablome>I will try both suggestions
21:36<Haywood|Jablome>thanks!
21:36<kop>Haywood|Jablome: Sounds like a bug. Did you file a bug report? Bitching does not get things fixed.
21:36<Haywood|Jablome>ima try the middle click on the scroll wheel now
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21:37<kop>Haywood|Jablome: Rather, you have to bitch to the right people in the right place.
21:37<leenuxx>kop: yes, I did. :) It's not in backports :-(
21:37<Haywood|Jablome>omg, it didnt happen that time, lol
21:37<Haywood|Jablome>figures
21:38<kop>leenuxx: Then you could backport it yourself following the <ssb> factoid. (There's also a way to get the judd bot to tell you how easy it's going to be based on dependencies, but I forget how to search judd. You could "/msg judd help" if you care.)
21:38<Haywood|Jablome>yeah another thing is that xchat itself is a pain in the grass when it comes to copypasta
21:38<Haywood|Jablome>u put your mouse on anything in xchat and it feeds into your clipboard automatically
21:38<Haywood|Jablome>wouldnt be surprised to see an exploit discovered because of it
21:38<kop>Haywood|Jablome: I use irssi, which was a pain to configure so it'd show me what I need to see. But IRC is a mystery to me and I'd like to keep it that way.
21:38<Haywood|Jablome>like xchat if you highlight text, BAM its in the clipboard
21:39<Haywood|Jablome>whoever had that idea needs to be slapped
21:39<Haywood|Jablome>yeah, I think if I was gunna do that I wouldnt use IRSSI
21:39<Haywood|Jablome>the other one, I forgot what its called...
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21:40<Haywood|Jablome>weechat > irssi
21:40<johnv474>Haywood| Jablome: FWIW, I am not experiencing the symptoms you describe. Opened gedit, typed, copied as you did, then closed and pasted in another window. Then did the same in Tomboy notes. Is this symptom specific to, say, a word processor or browser? I'm using Debian Squeeze.
21:40<kop>leenuxx: You probably want to read the DebianSoftware wiki page. It has options.
21:41<kop>johnv474: It might have to do with kde/qt app vs gnome/something else.
21:42<johnv474>ding! Good point. Hadn't thought beyond Gnome at the moment.
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21:55<Gerowen>johnv474: I've had the issue, but it's random and not very common, it's not a huge issue to me because as I said to Haywood earlier, I use parcellite so it's easy to find the text I copied, but I'm using Debian Squeeze with Gnome, and I have it happen randomly.
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21:56<johnv474>I may have experienced it without remembering. I can see why it would be annoying.
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22:26<scientes>what does it take to get desktop-file-utils to own the /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache file?
22:27<scientes>even though it doesn't create it until run?
22:27<scientes>or is that now how dpkg works?
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