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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-05-12

---Logopened Sat May 12 00:00:18 2012
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00:04<rainfyre>hey all. Any xfce users in here?
00:05<rainfyre>I'm wondering how to keep bluetooth from being on when my computer boots up
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02:41<oscar_>just upgraded to test, using gnome 3, alt-` doesn't do anything (is supposed to switch between windows for same application)
02:42<oscar_>anybody else have the same problem?
02:43<oscar_>Not being able to switch between windows makes this basically unusable (i normally have 2 or more terminals open and cannot quickly switch between them anymore)
02:43<oscar_>is this the right group to ask this?
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02:47<oscar_>anybody else using gnome 3?
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02:51<oscar_>is anybody online?
02:54<oscar_>can anybody see this?
02:54<heikkila>yes
02:54<oscar_>heikkila, thanks. new irc client (and haven't used irc in years).
02:55<heikkila>ok
02:55<oscar_>is there a channel just for debian testing? or for gnome 3 on debian?
02:55<heikkila>yes, #debian-next
02:55<oscar_>thanks
02:55<heikkila>hmm, I think it is shift+tab to switch between two windows of same program?
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02:58<heikkila>no, that's wrong.. it's alt + the key to the left of 1, §½ for me
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03:38<screenn>is it possible to install evolution mail client from sid in stable distrib?
03:38<Overfiend>it's always possible. Just depends on many deps from sid you want to drag along with it. :)
03:39<screenn>it's should be difficult because of next gnome version, I think evolution from sid depends entire gnome3 environment
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03:41<screenn>although, maybe better run it at virtual machine to restore old mail from newer mail client
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03:43<screenn>Overfiend install sid in virtualbox, configure own imap server and change mx name for my mail, upload old mail to imap and download to the old mail client?
03:44<Overfiend>screenn: sounds plausible, but don't take me too seriously. I haven't actually done it myself.
03:45<Overfiend>my days of running sid are long gone, and my days of running stable with stuff cherry-picked from sid never existed
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03:50<aft>hello
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04:41<arpit>hii
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04:42<arpit>hey folks
04:42<arpit>???
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05:45<PTKDev>Who have this bug on nautilus? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8526295/Share/video/2012-05-12%2011.36.55.m4v
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05:53<gren>Does anyone has printer Canon mf4018?
05:54<ichdasich>gren: just ask your question.
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06:01<adje>Hi, I have a problem with an apt upgrade being stuck on libmagic1, there seems to be an persistent error in this package: http://paste.debian.net/168442/
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06:02<adje>I currently do know know where to look to resolve this problem.
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06:04<adje>The whole of the error process seems to be stuck around "unable to create `/usr/lib/libmagic.so.1.0.0.dpkg-new' (while processing `./usr/lib/libmagic.so.1.0.0'): Invalid argument"
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06:05<gren>ichdasich: it hasnt driver for 64bit debian, i used alien to convert rpm to deb, installed it, but printer dont work without any error
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06:05<adje>apt-get clean / apt-get update / apt-get -f install do not resolve this issue.
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06:06<themill>adje: what's the output of "mount" on your system?
06:07<adje>http://paste.debian.net/168444/
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06:15<kilelme>adje: maybe it have some broken package?
06:16<kilelme>gren: what printer?
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06:22<gren>kilelme: Canon mf4018
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06:23<kilelme>gren: are you try use cups?
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06:27<jorick>hello everyone, my caps lock has turned into a control key and now its stuck on all caps. i have to hold down the shift key all the time... short of rebooting how do i turn off caps lock?
06:28<gren_><kilelme> how can i use it? i installed printer automatically with basic debian system-config-printer 1.2.3
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06:29<themill>adje: that sort of error is normally something to do with the filesystem being really unhappy, but I've not seen a convincing description of what it is or how to fix it. I assume your filesystem isn't full here (that would normally be a different error) and that you've not run out of inodes (df -i). Have you mounted this filesystem in something other than linux? Have you fsck'd recently>
06:29<kilelme>gren: i use that for some printer.. you can read it on http://www.cups.org/...
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06:33<adje>themill thanks, so a reboot with forced fsck can be wise?
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06:35<themill>adje: wouldn't hurt I guess. But as I say, not even the dpkg maintainers can explain this error, from what I've been reading
06:35<kilelme>gren_: hmm.. your printer not mention on cups...
06:35<adje>hmm ok
06:35<adje>In squeeze the right way to force a fsck is still touch /forcefsck right?
06:36<themill>adje: "shutdown -F" works also works
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06:37<kilelme>gren_: maybe this article can help you http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting
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06:56<gren_>kilelme> thanks for help!
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06:56<kilelme>gren_: it's work? you are welcome .. :D
06:57<adje>themill: thanks. There seem to be multiple inodes in use.
06:57<adje>http://paste.debian.net/168450/
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06:57<erjavi2012>hola
06:58<erjavi2012>jdjddj
06:58<erjavi2012>s
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06:58<erjavi2012>ahi alguien
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06:58<themill>erjavi2012: both cat and keyboard are working, thanks.
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06:59<gren_>kilelme> im afraid no, the problem is in drivers, cups dont work with my printer without it
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07:00<themill>adje: yeah, so that's not a good sign; perhaps that's related but hard to say based on those filenames.
07:00<adje>yeah, I understand. It
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07:01<kilelme>gren_: hmm.. maybe cups not yet provide driver for your printer.. but i hope http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting can help you to solve your problem
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07:01<adje>It's a vps, so I'm not directly in control of the hardware running it. I'm going to try to rollback last night's image to see if it makes a difference.
07:03<adje>Do you know if these kind of errors are recoverable?
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07:36<grammoboy>wow, what did an update do with evolution mail?
07:36<grammoboy>iit's black all over the place
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07:37<grammoboy>how do I change colors in evolution?
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07:48<grammoboy>it's this problem http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.evolution.general/44838
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08:11<adje>themill thanks for your efforts! the problem was resolved.
08:11<themill>excellent
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08:32<tuxampol>debian has a replacment for silverlight?
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08:40<gabriel>msn
08:41<gabriel>conversas
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08:43<Lec>Hi guys, can I ask a question about debian squeeze kernel here?
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08:46<srtu>sure, shoot you answer and wait if someone can answer
08:47<Lec>I would like to know if there is any way to enable TRIM for kernel 2.3.32?
08:47<daemonkeeper>Debian's 2.6.32 kernel was patched to support TRIM.
08:48<daemonkeeper>That is, you already have TRIM support.
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08:48<Lec>Thank you
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09:02<knoppix_>hi debian how are you doing?
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09:03<Guest392>is there someone to help me on knoppix terminal not as easy as ubnutu
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09:05<themill>Guest392: #knoppix is on irc.freenode.net
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09:07<kazoom>hi
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09:23<pan>hi
09:23<pan>anybody
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09:40<kilelme>!ask
09:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:00<michele>The.Avengers.2012.iTALiAN.MD.CAM.READNFO.XviD-P76.avi
11:01<kilelme>??
11:01<roughnecks>squeeze 6.0.5 is out
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12:03<Olypoly>Does anybody know why cfdisk /dev/sda would show 1.05mb of free space before the first partition /dev/sda1 ?
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12:04<MrMister>hey guys. I want to add unstable to my sources.list to install one package, but retain squeeze for the rest. I tried a few methods online, but it doesn't quite work for me.
12:05<sney>!ssb
12:05<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
12:05<sney>MrMister, ^ do this. anything else can wreck your system.
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12:11<MrMister>Thanks sney
12:11<guspur>!ssb
12:11<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
12:11<guspur>!apt
12:11<dpkg>Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt myths>.
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12:11<AgentC>Hi
12:11<guspur>hi too
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12:12<AgentC>Something went wrong on apt-get upgrade on a squeeze system. since this also my quassel does not work any more. can anyone help ? paste.debian.net/168474
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12:19<kilelme>AgentC: maybe it have some broken package?
12:20<guspur>kilelme, yes broken package
12:20<AgentC>kilelme: dunno. i made apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
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12:22<AgentC>what to do ?
12:22<kilelme>AgentC: maybe you have look on synaptic or aptitude (without install just type aptitude on your terminal) for missing package
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12:27<Azulas>Hi everyone I've got a problem with Xdebug not working. I'm using PHP 5.3 Xdebug 2.1 Standard from the Apt-repos. phpinfo() reports Debug build = No. Has the compile with debug option been deprecated in Squeeze ? or I'm a missing something else. Thx
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12:28<MrMister>Guys, when I added back ports to my Debian squeeze, and then do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, it tells me some packages need to be installed. If I remove back ports, no new packages are upgradable. Is this safe?
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12:31<L1V3>sqeeze
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12:33<AgentC>kilelme: after making "g" in aptitude , it shows this errors : paste.debian.net/168481
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12:33<Azulas>php -i in pastebin http://paste.debian.net/168482/
12:33<Azulas>Says Xdebug enabled, but I'm seeing nothing in my browser
12:34<kilelme>AgentC: after you enter the aptitude show your red color in bottom? if yes you must press e to fix the problem
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12:37<AgentC>kilelme: i pressed ! instead, shit. now this redbar does not apear any more
12:37<AgentC>kilelme: but errors still there
12:38<kilelme>AgentC: that give you some solution.. to next solution press .
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12:39<kilelme>AgentC: if you sure about that solution then press g... (remember the solution is romove or keep or anything else so be careful)
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12:40<kilelme>AgentC: can you paste the new error?
12:40<orkomania>Hi. I installed amd64 unstable on a thinkpad. But only base stuff was installed. Now i want to install kdm but its complaining about unresolved dependencies.
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12:41<orkomania>I have i386 unstable running on another machine and all packages seem to be fine there. Are amd64 packages "late"
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12:42<AgentC>kilelme: still the same when pressing "g"
12:43<AgentC>kilelme: it shows cyancolored entries at upgradeable packages : grub-common , grub-pc , libc6, libc6-i386
12:43<kilelme>AgentC: maybe it's about depencies
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12:44<AgentC>kilelme: something about libc6
12:45<chealer>Azulas: xdebug is a PHP extension. it's not to debug the PHP interpreter itself.
12:45<kilelme>AgentC: yes.. but something wrong about your perl.. have your change or configure that?
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12:46<AgentC>kilelme: no, just the upgrade, before that was all ok.
12:46<AgentC>kilelme: how can i paste a screenshot ?
12:46<kilelme>AgentC: try this dpkg --configure -a
12:46<joeoshawa>how do you create a trash folder on a usb stick?
12:47<kilelme>AgentC: maybe you have to configure first like i said before using command dpkg --configure -a
12:47<chealer>orkomania: unstable is basically targetted at packagers. you should use stable or testing.
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12:47<AgentC>kilelme: i tried. it shows same errors like on aptitude + g
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12:48<AgentC>kilelme: compilation failed somewhere inside perl5 scripts
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12:49<kilelme>AgentC: that the problem.. maybe need to reinstall perl?
12:49<orkomania>chealer: I use i386 unstable since more than 10 years and it is very stable for an unstable release. Isn't it the same for amd64?
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12:50<kilelme>AgentC: here the same problem with youhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/debconf-perl-may-be-unconfigured-cant-locate-debconf-log-pm-in-%40inc-849597/
12:50<AgentC>kilelme: how to do ?
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12:52<AgentC>kilelme: dpkg --configure -a does not work as expected in that documents. it shows even this error-list
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12:52<kilelme>AgentC: reinstall perl? you should remove/purge then install... but i'm not sure that work and maybe cause some more error
12:53<craigevil>orkomania, post the actual error, might try a different dm like lightdm
12:53<kilelme>AgentC: you should see this to http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/01/msg01171.html
12:53<chealer>orkomania: I don't really know amd64. it should be comparable to i386. but it's not just a question of "stability", one needs to know Debian well to use unstable as a default release
12:54<orkomania>craigevil: I get also missing dependencies when trying to install kde itself.
12:56<craigevil>orkomania, using which command? im on i386 sid no issues,
12:56<ricardo>how i uninstall a kde?
12:57<orkomania>craigevil: apt-get install kdm. Depends kde-runtime but it is not going to be installed or x-session-manager or x-window-manager
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12:59<orkomania>chealer: like said before I am using debian unstable since more than 10 years and did not have many problems. Therfore i am currently wondering why amd64 behaves so weird.
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13:00<AgentC>kilelme: i try later, need a break
13:01<kilelme>AgentC: sorry cannot provide better solution for your problem
13:01<AgentC>kilelme: thank you anyway much for your time
13:02<kilelme>AgentC: you are welcome
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13:07<valdyn>orkomania: your issues are nothing special, its a small miracle to not see this in 10 years of using unstable
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13:07<valdyn>( so much that i can hardly believe it =
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13:12<Azulas>Now I'm getting frustrated with PHP, php.ini as declaration error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED, Xdebug is enabled, and yet I get nothing reported out. I have a very similar setup in Kubuntu and it just works, passing debug information to the browser window. Hmmph, Google's not helping, makes me think it's something Obivous and I'm being a dumb ass
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13:15<orkomania>I got disconnected. Did somebody have a hint for me?
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13:16<neodh>bonjour
13:16<AgentC>hi
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13:17<neodh>j'ai un problème de carte son avec alsa, quelqu'un pourrait t'il m'aider ? / Hi i've got a problem with my
13:17<AgentC>!fr
13:17<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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13:18<neodh>thank's for the channel :) have a nice day
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13:21<mrvoodoo>some who speaks spanish=
13:21<mrvoodoo>???
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13:21<compgrokker>!es
13:21<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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13:23<sloop>hi
13:23<neodh>hi is everyone can help me because i've got a problem with alsa and my sound card ? thank's
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13:29<chealer>dpkg: tell neodh about anyone
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13:34<joeoshawa>i am getting a could not create trash folder on a usb drive how do i fix this? I am using xfce and thunar 1.2.3
13:35<joeoshawa>os is debian wheezy
13:35<joeoshawa>can i just create a folder called ,trash? I fixed it once before but don't remember how
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13:56<StarryNight>does anyone have ruckus wireless modem?
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14:08<richard>hey
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14:09<richard>i have some problems running a nfs4 server with mit-kerberos under debian squeeze
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14:10<richard>it says encryption type not permitted although i changed it to des-cbc-crc in krb5.conf
14:11<richard>there are a lot of bug reports but all >1 year old and not a single workaround
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14:12<richard>ive been trying for 2 weeks now
14:12<richard>-> currently running a nfs3 server in a production environment
14:12<richard>with host-based auth :(
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15:06<ricardo>I install debian 6 with gnome but i install kde but now i want uninstall kde, how i do this??
15:07<valdyn>!remove kde
15:07<dpkg>To remove or purge KDE: aptitude remove kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libkdecore5. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>).
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15:10<ricardo>dpkg, the command is aptitude purge to purge?
15:10<dpkg>okay, ricardo
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15:11<ricardo>thanks
15:12<ricardo>and why with gnome i connect my internet wi-fi and kde it isn`t?
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15:24<ricardo> why with gnome i connect my internet wi-fi and kde it isn`t?
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16:43<ai69>hello
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16:46<rammsis>wow
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16:54<ivan_>как установить wine 1.3 или 1.4 на debian squezze?
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16:55<scientes>!ru
16:55<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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17:06<AgentC>Hi
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17:08<AgentC>i have still errors on apt-get upgrade , package libc6 have unpack problems and there are some other errors before depending perl. paste.debian.net/168521 could anyone take a look for what to do ?
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17:10<john_k_>hello everyone. new to debian. pls someone help me setup my wifi drivers? i have downloaded them but don't know what to do
17:10<dvs>Hey topic! 6.0.5 was released!
17:11<dvs>john_k: wireless is such a pain to setup
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17:12<john_k_>dvs: I have intel wireless 4965agn. I read somewhere that drivers are included in the latest kernel. i also downloaded a tar.gz but i don't know what to do. I have tried many internet tutorials
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17:13<dvs>john_k_: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi?action=show&redirect=iwlagn#Squeeze
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17:15<john_k_><dvs>: I have found this already. in step 5 (configure) I had a problem. how do i know if i'm using kde or gnome?
17:17<dvs>john_k_: Gnome has a foot in the bottom-left corner, KDE has a K in a gear in the same place
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17:20<john_k_><dvs>: I think that I'm using Gnome. I have gone to configure, done what it says to Gnome and in Wicd I had a fail
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17:21<john_k_><dvs>: it could not start
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17:22<dvs>john_k: Huh? You choose one: either Network manager OR Wicd OR wpa_supplicant
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17:23<john_k_><dvs>: ok. I installed network-manager-gnome, logged out and logged in again and no computer icon in the notification area :(
17:25<dvs>john_k: dunno. I've never used network-manager
17:26<john_k_><dvs>: do you use wifi?
17:26<dvs>john_k: Yes, but I used wpa-supplicant
17:26<john_k_><dvs>: can I install it now or should I uninstall other first?
17:27<dvs>john_k_: If you;re going to switch, I'd uninstall the other one first.
17:28<john_k_><dvs>: ok but how?
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17:29<dvs>john_k_: If you're asking how to uninstall packages then I'd install synaptic
17:29<john_k_>what is synaptic?
17:30<AgentC>john_k: a package manager
17:30<AgentC>john_k: like aptitude, but for graphical use
17:30<john_k_>i'll google it right now
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17:33<john_k_>i had synaptic already installed. trying to unistall packages right now
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17:33<torbenh3>any pulseaudio maintainers here ?
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17:42<john_k_><dvs>: I installed wpasupplicant. I noticed that the icon in tray for lan is gone. should I log out or reboot? how is wpasupplicant working?
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17:51<AgentC>what to do when on dpkg --configure -a happens that invoke-rc.d says denied execution of stop ? (in case of setting up mysql-server-5.1) ?
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17:56<steve_>nick steveO
17:56<themill>AgentC: is this inside a chroot? look for a policy-rc.d that is telling invoke-rc.d to do nothing (/msg dpkg policy-rc.d)
17:57<steve_>Hi. I'm trying to report an issue on ubuntuforums.org, when I try pasting a k9copy "backtrace" into the post I am told I can't because it has 20 images. The "backtrace" has no images. I pasted the backtrace into a text editor first to clear out any hidden symbols but that didn't help. How I can include this information in my error report? Thanks much
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17:58<craigevil>steve_, ask in #ubuntu on freenode
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17:59<steve_>how do I change the channel? I'm a bit rusty with IRC
17:59<AgentC>steve_ : /join #channel
17:59<steve_>thanks
17:59<AgentC>steve_ : /nick nickname
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18:00<craigevil>!ubuntu
18:00<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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18:00<AgentC>themill: now upgrade is errorfree complete. it just took some time on setting up mysql. all depencies are solved now :)
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18:01<AgentC>themill : before there were errors on perl and unpacking newer libc6
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18:04-!-themill changed the topic of #debian to: squeeze (6.0.5) released; /msg dpkg squeeze | lenny no longer on mirrors; EOL 2012-02-06; /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ
18:04<@themill>(topicdiff: 6.0.5 released)
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18:17<Archaeopteryx>Hi, I am trying to set up grub on my machine to show an entry for debian (Arch is primary, debian is supposed to be another entry). Debian has grub2 I believe and Arch has grub. What is required to get debian to be bootable? I had tried a few things and failed
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18:29<Walex>you have three options (some of which are not possible in some cases): Use another MBR loader, and install GRUB and GRB2 to the boot sector of the respective boot partitions is the first
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20:18<youlysses>So is this one, or the one on freenode, the "official" channel?
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20:19<rudi_s>youlysses: AFAIK "official" here, but more users on Freenode.
20:20<youlysses>Weird ... Which one was first?
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20:20<rudi_s>I think Freenode, but most other debian channels are on OFTC.
20:21<gdb>free node was first. debian moved here to oftc a few years ago
20:21<gdb>freenode* (damned autocorrect)
20:22<gdb>I can't recall the reason for the move. Probably something lilo did that was politically uncomfortable.
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20:22<youlysses>lilo?
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20:22<gdb>The founder of freenode, who has since passed away in a motorcycle accident.
20:22<gdb>Rob Levin
20:23<youlysses>Ah. That sucks.
20:23<gdb>Looks like the move was in June of 2006: http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604
20:23<gdb>No reasons cited, just a release saying it happened.
20:24<gdb>Ah, no, not even a motorcycle
20:24<gdb>hit and run while he was on a bicycle
20:26<youlysses>That's much worse.... I'm taking it he was on the road? There needs to be more bike lanes.
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20:27<gdb>I'm not sure, was at night in Houston, TX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Levin
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20:29<youlysses>That really sucks. :-/
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20:47<Nazcafan>is anyone able to modify the speed and acceleration in the gnome "system settings"?
20:47<Nazcafan>mine doesn't seem to obey at all
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20:51<youlysses>Of what? Mouse? Keyboard? Wacom?
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20:52<Nazcafan>youlysses, mouse
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20:55<Nazcafan>I also noticed that ticking the left-hand mouse option won't invert the buttons
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20:58<youlysses>Is this on stable, or testing?
20:59<Nazcafan>testing
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21:00<Nazcafan>but I can't see any bug report on that, so I am guessing I must have some wrong config / missing package
21:01<nic>hi, i cant boot the netinstall testing image
21:01<nic>ive checked the md5 sum, and its correct
21:02<pparadis>which image are you using?
21:02<nic>http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
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21:03<nic>ive tried booting it from a vmware machine, copied it to a usb stick and tried booting on 2 computers .. does not work
21:03<nic>just a black screen
21:03<pparadis>lemme try to grab it real quick and spin it up
21:03<nic>what could be wrong?
21:04*pparadis is just gonna toss it at virtualbox for starters, faster than spinning up a kvm vm here
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21:05<nic>im new to debian, so quite possible ive screwed up...
21:06<pparadis>s'okay, gimme about 3 minutes, ISO almost done downloading
21:06<nic>but ive tested copying the image to the usb stick in several different ways... same result every time
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21:09<Nazcafan>youlysses, can you set the left handed option?
21:09<pparadis>nic: it doesn't boot for me either. you way wish to file a report at debian-cd@lists.debian.org on this. in the meantime, you can always deploy with stable and upgrade it to testing.
21:09<pparadis>nic: relevant instructions for that --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566010
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21:10<nic>pparadis: thanks for your help!, i will try to do that (the report) unless its too complicated for me ... :-|
21:11<pparadis>no problem, and honestly, just filing a report with "this is the ISO i used, from this mirror, and i get blah blah results (for me it just hung with no terminal output)" is fine.
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21:12<nic>pparadis: ok
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21:21<ml|>Nazcafan: wheezy/sid issues/questions should go to #debian-next
21:22<Nazcafan>thank you ml|
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21:36<dog>hello
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22:02<scientes>any command I can use to fetch all gpg keys one generation outwards?
22:02<scientes>from my current set?
22:07<pparadis>scientes: i think you might be looking for the --refresh-keys option from gpg, but this is not a debian-specific question.
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22:12<scientes>pparadis, yeah that works, not quite what i was asking about however
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22:29<Kunda>anyone here use 'colortail' ?
22:29<youlysses>Never even heard of it. :-P
22:30<Kunda>youlysses, colortail - log colorizer that makes log checking easier
22:30<Kunda>wicked cool
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22:31<pseudonymous>I'm sort of stuck mid-install and I'd rather not start the partitioning and so on all over (made an encrypted drive, had to write random data to the entire thing, took quite some time)
22:32<Kunda>Anyways, I was hoping to figure out how to make the text blink in addition to it colorized
22:32<Kunda>on xterm-256color
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22:33<pseudonymous>Point is - I got stuck with the installer constantly prompting me to insert my debian CD. Thing is, I only have the netinst iso on me. Ok, I chroot into the system and try 'apt-cdrom -d=/mnt/cdrom add' and it instructs me to repeat this for other CD's. However, NO CD ENTRY IN /etc/apt/sources.list - and no progress in the installer
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22:36<hdb2>ok, in the kernel handbook, 4.2.3, I configured a flavor/type with make -C debian/build/build_i386_none_686 menuconfig. the next section, 4.2.4, says to just do fakeroot debian/rules binary. that doesn't reference my configure at all! wtf?
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22:48<sham>hi!
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23:01<hdb2>irc sucks on saturday night
23:02*pparadis is making the best of it by working on dev and drinking simultaneously.
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23:03<pparadis>the wife is teaching herself perl with a book and a debian laptop. life ain't all bad.
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23:07*hdb2 needs to hang out with pparadis more often
23:07<pparadis>:)
23:07<craigevil>!debian-handbook
23:07<dpkg>The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. It can also can be installed from the debian-handbook package (only in sid; in wheezy soon). Also ask me about <books> <docs>.
23:07<sney>neat
23:07<craigevil>hdb2, checkout section 8.10
23:08<craigevil>once installed you can open it in any browser > /usr/share/doc/debian-handbook/html/index.html
23:12<pparadis>i think i might just mirror the html version of that.
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23:18<sney>I just bought a hardcopy. I figure the time I'll need it most, I won't have a working machine on which to review it.
23:18<pparadis>indeed, it's the kind of manual different folks will use in all different situations.
23:19<sney>it'll be interesting to see how quickly my hardcopy becomes outdated. I might start annotating in coloured ink by date
23:19<pparadis>i was just thinking the same thing... it's like the o'reilly effect in a way :)
23:20<pparadis>i daresay most of the info here is pretty much timeless, though.
23:20<pparadis>unless debian stops being... debian.
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23:22<pparadis>it's missing a chapter on dealing with the zombie apocalypse or 2012 end of world disaster or massive ocean level rise or raging new plague outbreak mitigation, though.
23:22<pparadis>somebody should submit a patch.
23:25<hdb2>craigevil: ok
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23:26<craigevil>havent bought hardcopy book in forever, downloaded the mobi version to my phone and kindle, stored a copy in Gdrive and Box
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