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---Logopened Tue May 29 00:01:03 2012
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00:24<Sidney__>How can I get Debian to see a connected device thats not listed
00:24<nevyn>Sidney__: what sort of device? disk, network ? not listed where?
00:24<Sidney__>disk
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00:25<nevyn>does debian ship the hacky rescan-scsi-bus.sh script?
00:25<nevyn>so you've connected this disk live?
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00:26<Sidney__>The disk is connected but if you look here it is not shown http://paste.debian.net/171671/
00:27<nevyn>well obviously
00:27<nevyn>it doesn't have a filesystem on it and it's not mounted.
00:27<nevyn>look in /dev/by-path
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00:30<Sidney__>nevyn i dont understand that request
00:31<nevyn>Sidney__: so have you attached a disk while the system is running? or have you rebooted since attaching the new disk?
00:31<Sidney__>i have rebooted
00:31<nevyn>ok.
00:32<nevyn>so the device should appear in /dev/disk/by-id
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00:32<nevyn>Sidney__: run dmesg|grep sd. and whack it in the pastebin
00:34<Sidney__>nevyn, http://paste.debian.net/171675/
00:35<Sidney__>looking in/dev/disk/by-id
00:35<nevyn>so I see three disks.
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00:36<nevyn>a 80gig, a 1.5tb and a 2.0 TB
00:36<Sidney__>correct
00:36<nevyn>as sdc sdb and sda respectively
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00:37<nevyn>so what do you want to do?
00:37<Sidney__>right and sdb2 is the problem . It mounts fine when used with a live cd
00:38<nevyn>is it in /etc/fstab?
00:38<Sidney__>all mount commands have failed
00:38<nevyn>where should it be mounted?
00:38<nevyn>all mount commands have failed?
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00:38<Sidney__>the ones that i tried
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00:38<nevyn>ok run fdisk -l /dev/sdb
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00:39*nevyn ewws at partitions.. eww
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00:40<Sidney__>http://paste.debian.net/171676/
00:40<pparadis>that thar be some gosh darn NTFS
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00:41<Sidney__>So the windows computers can rw
00:41<nevyn>arrr!
00:41<perlwizard>hmm
00:41<nevyn>so you need ntfs3g
00:42<nevyn>which isn't installed by default
00:42<perlwizard>so mono is considered DFSG-compliant ?
00:42<Sidney__>3g?
00:42<pparadis>Sidney__: that stands for "third generation"
00:42<nevyn>!ntfs
00:42<dpkg>Windows NT File System (NTFS) has drivers available in Debian: the read-only Linux kernel driver and a <FUSE> driver providing write support. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about read/write access, ask me about <ntfsrw>. See also <ntfsclone>, <label>. http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS
00:42<nevyn>!ntfsrw
00:42<dpkg>NTFS-3G is a userspace driver providing NTFS read and write support. "aptitude install ntfs-3g". Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Also ask me about <user accessible ntfs>.
00:42<nevyn>ok It has a - in it that I missed.
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00:55<sney>ntfs-3g in wheezy and newer has been compiled without internal fuse support, which as far as I can tell makes it impossible for a regular user to mount a ntfs volume with write access
00:58<Sidney__>sney yesterday this system was working I just had to enter a password
00:59<sney>you are probably using squeeze
00:59<pparadis>you probably had to enter a password because you couldn't mount it as an unprivileged user, and had to use sudo.
00:59<Sidney__>yes
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01:04<Sidney__>but I'm wondering how did the system degrade to the point of not being able to mount the drive unless an update is at fault
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01:10<pparadis>Sidney__: are you able to mount the drive now?
01:10<Sidney__>ntfs-3g didn't install
01:11<pparadis>okay, what happened instead of it installing?
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01:12<Sidney__>http://paste.debian.net/171681/
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01:15<pparadis>Sidney__: this is what i just got on a test VM --> http://paste.debian.net/171683/
01:21<jpinx>sney: are you saying that from wheezy onwards a user can not write to an ntfs partition?
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01:21<pparadis>jpinx: mounting and writing are different things, mind you.
01:21<jpinx>sney: or is it just the mounting that has to be root? That'd make more sense
01:22<greg_>Hi guys. Anyone know how to do a global search from the Xfce GUI?
01:22<jpinx>pparadis: yes ;)
01:22<pparadis><3
01:22<greg_>Care to divulge? :)
01:22<greg_>First time ubuntu-er here
01:22<pparadis>!ubuntu
01:22<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
01:24<greg_>ok thanks
01:24<XayOn>Even if the channel happens to be less helpful --> I love that part
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01:29<Sidney__>http://paste.debian.net/171687/
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01:59<sney>jpinx, mounting has to be root, and fuse doesn't accept user/group arguments from fstab. and the old trick of running ntfs-3g setuid root is also disabled.
02:00<sney>the obvious solution is "don't use ntfs" but for some that's not really a fix
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02:04<jpinx>sney: not an option for me, but no hassle to mount as root
02:05<jpinx>I have to use XP as a host for squeeze n a vm, but it'll be ok when wheezy goes stable - Phew ! ;;)
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02:13<codemonkey1337>Hello everyone. I was hoping I could get some help with a debian testing problem I've been having.
02:13<codemonkey1337>I'm trying to install alsa_plugins-1.0.25 but I'm having some trouble.
02:14<codemonkey1337>the ./configure went fine, but the problem I am having with using make is this
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02:14<pparadis>codemonkey1337: http://paste.debian.net
02:14<codemonkey1337>http://pastebin.com/KyTag2Vc
02:14<codemonkey1337>can't you just use the pastebin I pasted?
02:15<pparadis>that was more to prevent the incredibly common event of people getting kicked for pasting into the channel.
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02:15<codemonkey1337>oh okay, well thank you for the consideration
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02:16<codemonkey1337>see...I've been having problems with WINE and diablo 3. I use alsa, and esound/pulseaudio. Whenever I run wine, I get this error err:winediag:AUDDRV_GetAudioEndpoint PulseAudio "default" -22 without handle_underrun. Audio may hang. Please upgrade to alsa_plugins >= 1.0.24
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02:16<codemonkey1337>so I am assuming by installing this, it will fix my problem
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02:17<codemonkey1337>if you guys can't help me, then can you at least tell me if I'm installing the right thing>?
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02:18<perlwizard>no, you're not
02:18<codemonkey1337>I checked the debian site and there is a binary package called libalsasound-2 or something like that. I installed that package, recompiled wine, and it still didn't work
02:18<codemonkey1337>perlwizard: then what should I do to get rid of the error?
02:18<jm_>testing has libasound2-plugins 1.0.25
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02:18<jm_>so I fail to see how installing it from source will solve anything
02:19<pparadis>http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libasound2-plugins
02:19<codemonkey1337>I installed that already though
02:19<perlwizard>codemonkey1337 why are you building from source
02:19<codemonkey1337>okay, to find out why, go here http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libasound2-plugins
02:19<codemonkey1337>I downloaded the amd64 version and installed it
02:19<codemonkey1337>I am STILL getting that message after installing it and recompiling wine
02:19<pparadis>you downloaded it?
02:19<codemonkey1337>what am I doing wrong then?
02:20<pparadis>what version of debian are you running?
02:20<codemonkey1337>Yes, I isntalled it using dpkg
02:20<codemonkey1337>um...debian testing
02:20<perlwizard>why not use apt-get
02:20<perlwizard>or aptitude ?
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02:20<perlwizard>you're obviously missing some of it's deps
02:20<pparadis>codemonkey1337: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin.
02:20<codemonkey1337>okay one second.
02:20<codemonkey1337>actually, I should probably restate what I am running. I am using linux mint debian edition, which is built on debian testing.
02:20<pparadis>!mint
02:20<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
02:21<codemonkey1337>I just call it debian testing because I fail at seeing what the major differences (besides not using gnome are)
02:21<pparadis>mint is not supported in #debian
02:21<perlwizard>^
02:21<codemonkey1337>well...it's a debian problem though...can't you guys at least try and help me?
02:21<pparadis>no, it's a mint problem.
02:21<perlwizard>nop
02:21<perlwizard>good luck in mint irc
02:23<codemonkey1337>well can you at least tell me this...if I already installed the debian package libasound2-plugins, and I'm still getting the message, then something else is wrong, right?
02:23<codemonkey1337>just so I know what to tell them
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02:24<pparadis>given the method you described for installing that package, which is suboptimal at best, you may well have broken dependencies and not have what you think you have properly installed. that said, mint is not supported here, and we really can't assist further.
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02:26<codemonkey1337>okay thank you!
02:26<pparadis>np
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02:45<codemonkey1337>hey guys...okay you said you couldn't help me with my problem, that's fine...but can you tell me if there is an alsa repo for wheezy?
02:45<codemonkey1337>and yes, i'm in the linux mint forums...I think everyone is actually afk
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02:46<pparadis>codemonkey1337: the only stuff that can be supported here is packages from http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages installed on debian systems.
02:46<pparadis>third party repos, etc are not supported.
02:46<codemonkey1337>okay
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03:07<ayaka>http://paste.debian.net/171693/
03:07<ayaka>I don't know shall I use ` or " or '
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03:11<jm_>ayaka: several things need fixing: n=`echo $i | sed s/-none//` and ln -s $1/$i /usr/local/bin/$n
03:11<ayaka>I see, I will test
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03:12<ayaka>jm_ thank you very much
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03:12<jm_>ayaka: no worries
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03:16<ayaka>is there example that the xorg is tonew to kernel , then xorg can't work, I know udev will meet this problem
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03:49<kikinovak>Hi. I'm running Squeeze on a laptop, and I'd like to upgrade the kernel from backports.
03:49<kikinovak>I'm not exactly sure how to go about this.
03:49<kikinovak>I've configured backports OK in sources.list
03:50<pparadis>http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/
03:50<pparadis>also, why are you installing a kernel from backports?
03:51<kikinovak>Because I have an HP Pavilion DV7 with a graphics card that according to a wiki a found works with a more recent kernel.
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03:51<pparadis>sure thing
03:51<kikinovak>I *do* know how to use a few things from backports (I'm running Squeeze here on my desktop with recent Iceweasel, Amarok and a few other things).
03:52<pparadis>nod
03:52<kikinovak>My question is more specifically about how to upgrade the *kernel* from backports.
03:52<kikinovak>never done this
03:52<jm_>it's the same, just use the right package name
03:52<nevyn>kikinovak: apt-cache search linux-image
03:52<nevyn>after doing an update
03:53<kikinovak>nevyn: and then simply aptitude install linux-image ?
03:53<nevyn>kikinovak: linux-image-2.6-backports or similar...
03:53<kikinovak>will it replace my existing linux-image ? Or simply, like in RHEL systems, install another one side by side ?
03:53<nevyn>install another one
03:53<kikinovak>ah ok
03:53<oldereagle>How can I upgrade to PHP 5.3 on my Debian Lenny server?
03:53<pparadis>oldereagle: start by upgrading to squeeze. lenny isn't supported anymore.
03:54<kikinovak>ah yes... linux-image-3.2-something.bpo.something
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03:54<nevyn>there should be a linux-image-3.2.something that relies on the 'newest' in backports
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03:55<pparadis>http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/linux-image-2.6-amd64
03:55<oldereagle>pparadis, thx. I guess that means I should not use lenny at all anymore?
03:55<nevyn>kikinovak: what pparadis siad
03:55<nevyn>kikinovak: what pparadis said
03:55<kikinovak>yeah I just begin to figure it out ... thanks guys you helped me out here
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03:55<kikinovak>(my girlfriend calls me because breakfast is ready...)
03:56<kikinovak>cheers (be back in 20 min)
03:56<nevyn>then it's 11?
03:56<pparadis>oldereagle: lenny doesn't get security updates anymore.
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03:57<pparadis>oldereagle: http://www.debian.org/releases/ && http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_history
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03:58<oldereagle>pparadis, thank for the info. I'll have to start preparing for the upgrade.
03:59<pparadis>sure thing
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04:11<kikinovak>nevyn: nah, it's 10 past 10 in the morning
04:11<nevyn>kikinovak: it was a producers reference.
04:12<brando753>how do I get debian to use a home bin folder (ex. /home/user/bin)
04:12<brando753>$HOME/bin
04:12<kikinovak>sorry I don't understand "producers reference" (not english native speaker)
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04:13<nevyn>kikinovak: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395251/quotes?qt=qt0309721
04:13<pparadis>kikinovak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Producers_%28musical%29
04:14<pparadis>rather, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Producers_%282005_film%29
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04:15<kikinovak>nevyn: ok thanks
04:15<pparadis>brando753: you probably need to add that to your PATH.
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04:16<kikinovak>nevyn: I do understand a broad range of cultural intertext from Marcel Proust to Sylvester Stallone, but I did not know this one.
04:16<pparadis>brando753: http://home.ubalt.edu/abento/linux/terminal/addtopath.html
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04:17<brando753>I dont have a .bashrc or .bash_profile, do I just make one?
04:17<kikinovak>brando753: yes
04:17<pparadis>gene wilder will always be one of my favorite actors. but anyhow, i'll stop veeing off-topic here :)
04:18<brando753>Is all I have to put in it this? PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin or do I have to add more
04:18<pparadis>brando753: you should probably read available documentation for how that stuff works first.
04:18<pparadis>it's never good to simply ask for a recipe when you don't understand how the ingredients function.
04:19<kikinovak>brando753: you can start from mine if you want to: svn co svn://svn.tuxfamily.org/svnroot/microlinux/config --> look in the 'bash' directory
04:19<kikinovak>brando753: nicely colored prompt for root vs. users
04:19<pparadis>:D
04:19<kikinovak>plus a few nifty aliases
04:19<pparadis>kikinovak: i have a particular prompt that drives one of my business partners nuts on a host i provisioned for him. it's _quite_ colorful, and if he changes it i'll just change it back :)
04:20<kikinovak>heh
04:20<nevyn>pparadis: puppet!
04:20<nevyn>then it'll automatically change back :)
04:20<kikinovak>Here, I try to keep things decent.
04:20<kikinovak>Red brackets for root, green brackets for $USER.
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04:21<pparadis>nevyn: way to many moving parts, man. a simple hourly cron from two different places to rsync it back shall suffice ;)
04:21*nevyn likes puppet but yes.
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04:21<pparadis>and will also produce "wtfbbq" exclamantions from him until he figures it out.
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04:26<kikinovak>OK, folks. I have trouble upgrading my kernel from backports. I tried 'aptitude install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64' but APT complains about 'linux-base' and 'initramfs-tools' being too old. Now what?
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04:27<nevyn>kikinovak: what release are you on?
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04:27<kikinovak>nevyn: ah ok I just found the solution. (I'm on Squeeze)
04:28<jm_>you need to install those frm backports too
04:28<kikinovak>nevyn: I didn't read ALL of APT's output. In fact, I have to *decline* APT's suggestion to keep the stable version (that is, no, don't keep it, upgrade) and then *accept* upgrading said packages.
04:28<kikinovak>It works.
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04:28<vassalli>hi
04:28<nevyn>so that's not the actual kernel it's the metapackage that depends on latest.
04:29<nevyn>and yes it conflicts with the bpo latest
04:29<vassalli>delete file user/bin/nomefile
04:29<vassalli>no such
04:29<vassalli>??
04:29<kikinovak>should be /usr
04:29<vassalli>rm /user/bin/skype
04:29<kikinovak>not /user
04:29<vassalli>no such
04:29<vassalli>??
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04:30<debian-novice>hi, I have installed gnome and virtualbox on my server (debian Squeeze 6.0.5.), but if I want to run either of them doesn't work, if I type startx, I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/171561/, if I type virtualbox, I get error about X11 display failed....
04:30<vassalli>rm /bin/nomefile
04:30<movl>debian-novice: press alt+ctrl+F7
04:30<vassalli>No such file or directory
04:31<movl>vassalli: there is no such file in /bin
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04:31<debian-novice>movl I am accessing to my server through ssh (puttty), and I have dedicated server at my ISP....
04:31<pparadis>debian-novice: also, if you're intending to use this server as a host for VMs and nothing else, and you still want a desktop, you might be interested in this minus the sound packages --> http://paste.debian.net/171299
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04:32<pparadis>debian-novice: unless you're married to using virutalbox, you may also wish to check out KVM for virtualization --> http://www.palegray.net/tutorials/debian-6-kvm-howto/
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04:32<jm_>debian-novice: for that you'll need X server on windows (i.e. xming)
04:32<vassalli>the file is inside user / bin
04:32<pparadis>debian-novice: i use KVM heavily and really, really like it, btw.
04:33<movl>it
04:33<jm_>alternatively use its CLI interface: VBoxManage ...
04:33<movl>it's /USR/bin
04:33<movl>not /user
04:33<vassalli>aa
04:33<vassalli>ok
04:33<movl>debian-novice: are you using ssh -x or ssh -Y ?
04:33<movl>-X, sorry
04:34<kikinovak>movl: now vassalli will look desperately for /USR/bin :oD
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04:34<pparadis>debian-novice: also, for remotely accessing a linux desktop, this is much faster than either tunneling X or using various VNC solutions --> http://freenx.berlios.de/
04:34<movl>:(
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04:35<debian-novice>movl ssh -x
04:35<pparadis>so, in sum, my personal advice is (1) give KVM a try, it's great, (2) if you want to run a desktop on your server, make it minimal, and (3) use freenx for remote access because it's fast as hell and makes access very simple.
04:36<movl>+1
04:36<movl>debian-novice: on the other hand, X on a server is...odd
04:36<pparadis>nod
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04:37<debian-novice>movl I am new to debian so I really don't know much about these stuff :D I am still learning :)
04:37<movl>debian-novice: what services are you running?
04:37<pparadis>that KVM tutorial i linked earlier gives you a host server without X installed at all, and shows you how to set up a debian desktop in virtualbox to run virt-manager in to create and manage your VMs. disclaimer: yes, i wrote that tutorial (and need to update it for wheezy soon).
04:37<pparadis>it's also what you get if you google for: debian 6 kvm howto
04:38<movl>debian-novice: the best way to learn , especially on a server, is the console
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04:38<movl>and always will be
04:38<jm_>so grub now works?
04:38<debian-novice>jm_ grub works like a charm yes :D but still virtualbox and gnome aren't :D
04:39<debian-novice>pparadis let me explain what I need
04:40<debian-novice>I need to install on my debian squeeze virtual machine, and on virtual machine to install windows OS, because there have to be few software run 24/7
04:40<vassalli>with unsuccessful
04:40<debian-novice>that's main thing
04:40<pparadis>debian-novice: what i just gave you will do that.
04:40<vassalli>cd /user
04:40<vassalli>cd /usr
04:40<movl>vassalli: for Lord
04:40<movl>'s sake, it's /usr
04:40<pparadis>movl: for God and Country?
04:40<movl>:)))
04:40<movl>yeah
04:40<pparadis>:)
04:41<movl>my laptop kb is odd
04:41<movl>or maybe I am
04:41<pparadis>movl: it's okay, i am too ;)
04:41<debian-novice>pparadis so in this howto I skip install debian on server and go to install and configure kvm on the server?
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04:42<pparadis>debian-novice: that would probably work for you. i still recommend you read everything there. i do cringe at the thought of all those extra X/gnome packages installed on the server, but yeah, it should work.
04:43<pparadis>there's a bunch of updates i'm going to make to that tutorial shortly when i revise it for wheezy, but everything there should be functional, and you should be okay with working with your existing setup.
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04:43<movl>pparadis: how good does winblows work with kvm?
04:43<pparadis>_if_ you decide to give it a try, it would be best to do it from a newly provisioned minimal server install, or at least with the virtualbox portions of what you've installed removed completely.
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04:44<pparadis>movl: i've run NT4, server 2000, and server 2008 under KVM with no issues.
04:44<movl>NT4....=(
04:44<movl>I hoped I never would have to see that again
04:45<pparadis>oh i know... sadly there are things out there that require it.
04:45<movl>I bet
04:45<movl>like VBA and COBOL
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04:45<pparadis>like core telelcommunications infrastructure code at various large banks you probably use or have family that use.
04:46<movl>yeah, I know what you mean
04:46<debian-novice>pparadis
04:46<pparadis>1-800-299-BANK used to run code i wrote with 6 other guys ;)
04:46<debian-novice>when I write command : egrep '(vmx|svm)' --color=always /proc/cpuinfo .. .I don't get anything :D
04:46<debian-novice>here says I should get few lines as output
04:46<pparadis>debian-novice: what kind of server do you have?
04:47<debian-novice>Debian Squeeze 6.0.5.
04:47<pparadis>no, i mean the hardware.
04:47<movl>debian-novice: what CPU?
04:47<debian-novice>sec
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04:47<movl>debian-novice: paste the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
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04:48<debian-novice>http://paste.debian.net/171698/ here it is
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04:49<abdulkarim>http://packages.debian.org/sid/mit-scheme << this package does not show up in "$apt-cache search mit-scheme"
04:49<pparadis>movl: that won't work with KVM.
04:49<pparadis>err, sorry
04:49<pparadis>debian-novice: that won't work with KVM.
04:49<pparadis>http://ark.intel.com/products/30781/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E4500-%282M-Cache-2_20-GHz-800-MHz-FSB%29
04:49<movl>E series usually don't have virtualization support
04:49<pparadis>Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) : No
04:49<pparadis>nod
04:49<movl>except for two models, maybe
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04:50<debian-novice>So I cannot do that what I want? :)
04:50<movl>Virtualbox will not work either
04:50<movl>not on that hardware
04:50<pparadis>debian-novice: so you know, that also means performance under virtualbox is going to less than spectacular
04:50<movl>pparadis: and that's an euphemism
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04:50<pparadis>i mean virtualbox will technical work but it's going to be much crappier, yeah :)
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04:51<pparadis>debian-novice: when selecting a server you intend to use for virtualization, generally speaking it's good to stick with i5, i7, or modern xeon monikers on the intel side, and pretty much any multi-core modern AMD processor.
04:51<debian-novice>hehe it would be much easier if I would know about that few days ago...I wouldn't bother that much :D
04:51<abdulkarim>http://packages.debian.org/sid/mit-scheme << this package does not show up in "$apt-cache search mit-scheme"
04:52<movl>abdulkarim: do you use sid?
04:52<abdulkarim>movl: yes
04:52<pparadis>are your repositories up to date, ala apt-get update?
04:52<abdulkarim>pparadis: yes
04:52<pparadis>dunno
04:53<abdulkarim>http://paste.debian.net/171699/ < sources.list
04:53<movl>looks fine
04:53<pparadis>adi: what arch are you on?
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04:54<pparadis>abdulkarim rather ^
04:54<abdulkarim>x86_64
04:54<abdulkarim>pparadis: ^
04:55<abdulkarim>apt-get source mit-scheme << this works fine!
04:55<pparadis>abdulkarim: the only architecture listed on the package page you linked is i386.
04:55<abdulkarim>damn!
04:55<abdulkarim>didn't notice that :p
04:55<abdulkarim>sorry
04:55<pparadis>s'okay
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05:06<kaizoku>How can I use tasksel to install a specific package? (I need it for a custom debian live image) I'm looking at the manual task but I can't get it to work.
05:07<jm_>you mean like 'tasksel install foo'?
05:07<jm_>alternatively use its tui interface
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05:09<kaizoku>jm_: tasksel -t install grub2 outputs nothing, so it's not really working. I can't use the tui because I need it command line, because it's to make a custom install+live image.
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05:10<jm_>kaizoku: there's no such task in debian
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05:13<kaizoku>jm_: yeah, but I just tried out what you had said. tasksel has a manual task, I'm hoping it's the way to select a specific package (and dependencies).
05:14<jm_>kaizoku: why do you need to do this with tasksel?
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05:16<kaizoku>because of this: http://live-build.debian.net/cgi-bin/live-build It has an option for tasksel, which I'm assuming it's the only way to select a package. And I need to have grub-efi on the image, because my new laptop comes with GPT.
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05:17<oldereagle>On my Lenny server i have http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib in sources.lst Replacing "lenny" with "squeeze" does not seem to work. Can just remove the repo?
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05:18<stderr>oldereagle: You want something like: deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main
05:18<pparadis>oldereagle: http://paste.debian.net/171703/
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05:20<jm_>well grub2 is not a task so that won't help, why not simply put it on a USB drive and get it from there
05:20<oldereagle>not 'contrib" at the end?
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05:21<oldereagle>pparadis, not 'contrib" at the end?
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05:21<stderr>oldereagle: If you want contrib (and maybe non-free), you can add those too.
05:21<pparadis>certainly
05:22<pparadis>oldereagle: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
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05:22<pparadis>oldereagle: see "Introductory notes" on that page.
05:22<jm_>oldereagle: release notes have a paragraph about volatile
05:23<pparadis>jm_: i think he probably didn't see the release notes ;)
05:23<jm_>pparadis: no doubt
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05:23<pparadis>although that does bring up the point about subscribing to the mailing lists.
05:23<pparadis>oldereagle: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
05:23<pparadis>they're handy.
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05:24<kaizoku>jm_: I know it's not a task, but I was hoping the "manual task" to work, maybe it's broken. I'm not certain that putting grub-efi on an usb might work, since it needs to be installed during system installation.
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05:24<jm_>kaizoku: you can install it on tty2
05:25<pparadis>jm_: why must you bring up ttys when i'm pointedly avoiding writing code that deals with them at this very moment? :)
05:25<pparadis>well, ptys, but whatever.
05:25<jm_>kaizoku: tasks are created by adding appropriate headers to debian packages, so if there's not desired task listed there, "manual task" won't help a bit
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05:27<jm_>i'll be back in some 45min
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05:37<oldereagle>pparadis, I ended up with this. http://paste.debian.net/171708 Seem to get a couple of 404 errors when doing apt-get update, though...
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05:37<philipp>i backported the kernel... still no prigress
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05:40<kaizoku>jm_: ok, thanks
05:41<pparadis>oldereagle: can you please pastebin the output of apt-get update?
05:41<nevyn>philipp: did you reboot?
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05:42<philipp>nevyn: yes. do you know wahat i am trying to do?
05:42<philipp>nevyn: basically run glxgears...
05:43<nevyn>!glxgears
05:43<dpkg>well, glxgears is an OpenGL demo, or <bogomips> for graphics cards. It is not a benchmark. In fact, in recent versions you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark option in order to report FPS information. Provided by the mesa-utils package.
05:43<pparadis>also, in addition to what you've been trying to do thus far, it seems this would have more to do with your installed video drivers.
05:44<oldereagle>pparadis, http://paste.debian.net/171710
05:44<philipp>nevyn: i think the problem is i have no 3d support for this intel chip...
05:44*babilen would be more interested in the output of: glxinfo | grep -E "render(er|ing)"
05:44<pparadis>babilen: indeed
05:44<nevyn>philipp: sandybridge right?
05:45<philipp>nevyn: y
05:45<nevyn>so you realise you changed networks?
05:45*nevyn is assuming this is the same philipp currently
05:45<nevyn>19:03 < philipp_> nevyn: im still following dpkg
05:45<babilen>philipp: Installed a new kernel *and* xorg from backports? (cf. "/msg dpkg bdo kernel" and "/mdg dpkg bdo xorg") -- What is the GPU and what is the output of the command I mentioned earlier?
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05:49<philipp>babilen: http://paste.debian.net/171711/
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05:50<philipp>nevyn: ye its me
05:50<philipp>xorg from backports?
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05:50<babilen>Indeed
05:50<nevyn>yes.
05:50<nevyn>you do need that too.
05:50<philipp>what?
05:50<philipp>sry guys im dumb =(
05:51<babilen>philipp: "lspci -nn | grep -i vga" and "aptitude versions ~i~n^xserver" as well please?
05:51<babilen>(or answer my questions)
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05:52<pparadis>oldereagle: for starters, please try updating your sources.list to this and run "apt-get update" again --> http://paste.debian.net/171714/
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05:53<philipp>http://paste.debian.net/171715/
05:53<pparadis>oldereagle: next, before you do "dist-upgrade" do this first: "apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude"
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05:54<philipp>babilen: that waht u wanted?
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05:54<pparadis>oldereagle: also, you may wish to run the dist-upgarde in a screen session. it can save you some heartache in case anything goes sideways or you happen to lose your network connection to the system. this won't matter if you're upgrading something locally, but it can be important for a remote system.
05:55<pparadis>s/dist-upgarde/dist-upgrade/
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05:59<oldereagle>pparadis, http://paste.debian.net/171717
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06:00<pparadis>oldereagle: no errors, right?
06:00<oldereagle>pparadis, thanks for the advice on screen session. Did not know that. Will do. Do you think my paste looks OK?
06:00<babilen>philipp: Yeah, you need to install a newer xorg version as well. (See "/msg dpkg bdo xorg")
06:00<pparadis>looks fine to me.
06:00<oldereagle>pparadis, thanks a lot. Will try the upgrade this afternoon.....
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06:00<philipp>babilen: do i need a xorg.conf?
06:00<pparadis>oldereagle: as with any system upgrade, i assume you have backups just in case :)
06:01<pparadis>oldereagle: and do be sure to "apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude" first.
06:01<babilen>philipp: No, you don't.
06:01<EmleyMoor>Is there a way in a vi-like editor to search for the next line not containing a space?
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06:02<pparadis>EmleyMoor: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1218390/what-is-your-most-productive-shortcut-with-vim/1220118#1220118
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06:04<pparadis>EmleyMoor: alternately, http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Search_for_lines_not_containing_pattern_and_other_helpful_searches
06:04<oldereagle>pparadis, yes, I have backed up all data. It should be OK to run "apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude" now, and proceed with "apt-get dist-upgrade" in the afternoon when people are not using the system?
06:04<pparadis>sure
06:05<oldereagle>pparadis, was that "sure" for me?
06:05<pparadis>oldereagle: yarly :)
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06:05<philipp>thx im on it...
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06:06<oldereagle>pparadis, thanks for helping.
06:06<pparadis>oldereagle: you're welcome!
06:06<oldereagle>Thanks also to jm_ and stderr...
06:06<pparadis>jm_ and stderr are also sexier than me, i must admit.
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06:07<oldereagle>:)
06:07<kikinovak>pparadis: Hey. Still there ?
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06:07<kikinovak>nevyn: Still there ?
06:07<nevyn>yep
06:07<pparadis>yep
06:07<kikinovak>I just managed to solve my Intel Sandy Bridge issue.
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06:08<kikinovak>Installing recent kernel AND xorg from Backports did the trick.
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06:08*pparadis drly notes that every time he sees "Intel Sandy Bridge" he can't help but think "Intel Sandy Vag." i know i'm broken, don't hate me.
06:08<nevyn>right.
06:08*nevyn has dejavu...
06:08<babilen>indeed
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06:09<kikinovak>Phew. That old feeling of having to jump through burning loops to make some exotic hardware work.
06:09<babilen>pparadis: You might want to keep this to yourself in the future
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06:09<pparadis>babilen: but then i wouldn't be authentic :). in all truth, it's the navy that did that to me. i'm sure of it.
06:09<nevyn>kikinovak != philipp ?
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06:10<pparadis>nevyn: i'm a tad confused too, but hey i'm going with ti.
06:10<kikinovak>nevyn: No, I'm not Philipp. My name is Niki Kovacs. I'm Austrian, and I live in South France.
06:10<kikinovak>Why ? You know another kikinovak ?
06:10<pparadis>kikinovak: it's just us getting wires crossed from similar discussions :)
06:11<pparadis>it's 0610 EST here :)
06:11<kikinovak>It's noon European time here
06:11<kikinovak>Sunny, warm but not too hot. Swallows circling in front of the window.
06:12<babilen>Why don't you continue that discussion in #debian-offtopic?
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06:13<pparadis>babilen: nobody's continuing anything. i'm typically pretty close to the first person to recommend moving offtopic conversations to #debian-offtopic, btw. a couple of anecdotal lines here and there, especially when there's nothing major going on don't hurt anything.
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06:13<kikinovak>babilen: Sorry. This was just the conclusion of a lengthy discussion we had earlier this day, about upgrading some components from backports in order to make some recent hardware work. Basking in the glow of success for a few lines should be allowed in that case.
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06:14<pparadis>babilen: in other words, jumping the gun isn't productive. i'm guilty of myself at times, though.
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06:46<kikinovak>Hi again. I just managed to install Squeeze on a recent HP Pavilion DV7 laptop. Had to upgrade kernel and xorg from Backports, but now it runs fine. Q: on startup, messages as well as KDM look quite dim. Only when I log into KDE, everything gets back to a normal brightness. Is there a way to have full brightness on startup?
06:47<pparadis>kikinovak: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=139419 ?
06:48<pparadis>i know that's arch-related, just hit it and it seemed like it might have a clue.
06:48<kikinovak>thanks. (Looks like Arch has the best documentation around)
06:49<pparadis>too bad they've got a holy-jesus-crap-awful concept of $so_much_else :)
06:49<pparadis>but yeah, hopefully that steers you in the right direction.
06:51<kikinovak>I'm running an IT business offering 100% GNU/Linux and/or free software solutions for businesses, administrations, etc. A few years ago (around 2006), I tried to use Arch for production on both servers and desktops. Still remember the pain. Used CentOS 5.x for a few years, and then after a brief stint on Ubuntu LTS, I switched to Debian, which I'm happy with altogether.
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06:52<pparadis>debian hasn't let me down in 12 years :)
06:52<kikinovak>Teh. My first Debian was Potato.
06:53<jm_>damn newbies ;)
06:53<kikinovak>LOL
06:53<kikinovak>Though my first Linux was Slackware 7.1
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07:01<kikinovak>pparadis: OK that worked like a charm. Had to snoop around a bit, because Debian keeps its stuff in different places than Arch, but the doc helped me to solve my problem. Thanks !
07:01<pparadis>you're welcome :)
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07:09*sekt0r Hello. Is there a command line tool that i can use to check sha1 checksum?
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07:09<jm_>yes
07:10<pparadis>you mean like sha1sum?
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07:11<babilen>pparadis: yes
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07:12*sekt0r pparadis: after doing 'aptitude show sha1sum' i'm not getting anything
07:13<pparadis>sekt0r: open a terminal and type "sha1sum"
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07:13*sekt0r pparadis: thanks :)
07:13<jm_>!tell sekt0r -about search
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07:16<pparadis>sekt0r: you might also want to view the output of "apt-cache show coreutils"
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07:21*sekt0r pparadis: thanks, it helped me to understand why i didn't get anything after doing "aptitude search sha1sum"
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07:21<pparadis>sekt0r: :)
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07:21<a7471>Hello everyone
07:21<themill>sekt0r: by default, aptitude search only looks at package name and short description
07:21<babilen>!tell sekt0r -about apt-file
07:22<a7471>Anyone from Portugal in here?
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07:22<a7471>cunt
07:22<a7471>fuck
07:22<a7471>bastard
07:22<a7471>shit
07:22<babilen>stderr: A query such as 'apt-file search -x "bin/sha"' or "apt-file search sha|grep sum" (or variations thereof) might have helped as well.
07:22<a7471>fanny
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07:23<pparadis>that was delightful.
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07:52<dizzylizzy>how strange!
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08:12<pexio>Hi I have Apache2 installed and running, but how can it be that I cant see port 80 when doing "netstat -lnptu4" I can only see it listening on IPv6
08:13<amphi>huh - Tourette's on IRC
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08:18<Paolo>Hi I'm Paolo from Italy
08:19<Paolo>Is there a way to look into file descriptors?
08:19<Paolo>To see what kind of informations they have?
08:19<jm_>like?
08:20<Paolo>???
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08:22<Paolo>I have some files that create huges descriptors. How can I look into descriptors to read why they are so big?
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08:23<jm_>what do you mean with huge descriptors? how can a fd be huge?
08:24<Paolo>I mean "big"
08:24<Paolo>Like some GigaB
08:25<jm_>you mean files written to using those fd-s are big or what?
08:25<tjader>A file descriptor is an integer oO
08:25<tjader>You probably mean something else.
08:25<pparadis>Paolo: maybe information like will interest you --> http://frm.li/3dBx7Y
08:26<pparadis>although i'm kinda thinking what jm_ and tjader just said is probably more in line with reality.
08:27<babilen>Paolo: Could you provide more information on the problem you are trying to fix? What exactly is big? How do you determine that size? What creates these big files?
08:29<Paolo>My procedures (written in php or py) run 24:7, but sometimes they have a big file descriptor so I have to kill them and then restart
08:30<pparadis>are you talking about swap space utilization, as in running out of real memory?
08:31<babilen>Paolo: Are you talking about files? Could you give an example? How do you check the size in questin? As tjader already mentioned: A filedescriptor is an integer that is, by definition, not big.
08:31<Paolo>I see their size with the "lsof -L1" command
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08:32<pparadis>Paolo: what operating system are you using?
08:32<babilen>Paolo: Could you paste the output in question to http://paste.debian.net please?
08:32<babilen>Paolo: And which operating system are you using?
08:32<Paolo>Ok debian 5.1
08:34<Paolo>Here you are an example: http://paste.debian.net/171729
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08:34<babilen>Paolo: We never released that version -- Please paste the output of that lsof command along with "cat /etc/debian_version" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" to http://paste.debian.net please
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08:34<AiRLocK>Hi guys, anybody has come across firefox crashing constantly on debian?
08:34<jm_>you mean size/off field?
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08:35<jm_>AiRLocK: you mean iceweasel?
08:35<babilen>AiRLocK: FF is not in Debian -- Can you reproduce the issue with iceweasel? What about newer iceweasel versions from http://mozilla.debian.net ?
08:35<Paolo>Sorry my mistake
08:35<Paolo>debian version 6.0.1
08:36<pparadis>Paolo: can you please paste the output of the the files babilen requested?
08:36<Paolo>http://paste.debian.net/171730/
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08:37<AiRLocK>babilen, hi, I have downloaded Firefox from the mozilla site that have decompressed in /usr/local and run it from there. The reason is that some of the extensions I use do not run on the version of Iceweasel that comes from Debian
08:38<Paolo>Have you got all the infos that you need?
08:38<pparadis>Paolo: incidentally, when a file is deleted, it's not really deleted until all open file handles to it are closed.
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08:39<AiRLocK>jm_, hi, I mean Firefox from the mozilla site.
08:39<jm_>AiRLocK: that's not supported here, but why do those extensions not run?
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08:39<pparadis>Paolo: you left out the output of "cat /etc/debian_version"
08:39<Paolo>I think that my descriptors are so big because maybe there are some errors in the script. Where can I find that info?
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08:40<Paolo>Tha comand "cat /etc/debian_version" produces tons of rowsù
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08:40<Paolo>I can't paste it, they contains infos that I can't reveal
08:40<jm_>you must be joking
08:40<pparadis>wtf
08:40<amphi>Paolo: how bizarre
08:41<pparadis>Paolo: you're not running debian.
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08:41<Paolo>Yes I do
08:41<Paolo>Sorry wrong file name :)
08:41<AiRLocK>jm_, because they need a newer version of firefox, but in any case I'll check the site that babilen suggested above.
08:41<Paolo>The output of debian_version is 6.0.1
08:42<jm_>AiRLocK: visit http://mozilla.debian.net for instructiions and get version 12 of iceweasel from there
08:42<AiRLocK>jm_ thanks man.
08:42<jm_>AiRLocK: works great here, the last crashy version was 5.x or 6.x IIRC
08:42<AiRLocK>jm_ cool, will do! ;)
08:42<AiRLocK>babilen, I haven't checked newer versions of Iceweasel, but I will do. (Thanks for the pointer)
08:43<pparadis>Paolo: the output you're describing displays the file size, not the file descriptor size. these are two very different things.
08:43<AiRLocK>jm_, babilen Thanks a lot guys, I'll confirm results.
08:43<jm_>AiRLocK: no problem
08:43<Paolo>How can I see the file descriptor size?
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08:43<pparadis>Paolo: file descriptors have nothing to do with this.
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08:44<Paolo>Ok ok. MAybe I have wrong infos. Reset all I said. Let me restart.
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08:44<Paolo>I have a problem.
08:44<Paolo>My procedures (that works 24:7) creates huge files that I see using the "losf -L1" command.
08:45<pparadis>Paolo: apparently you are creating a very large temporary file. this is what your code is doing because it has been told to. it also appears that your code has an error that attempts to delete said temp file but keeps open file handles to it.
08:45<Paolo>What kind of file are them? How can I find why they are so big?
08:45<pparadis>you should probably inspect and fix that code.
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08:45<Paolo>Is the info of that error into the big files?
08:46<pparadis>Paolo: i would recommend inspecting your code for anything that creates temp files.
08:46<pparadis>anything under /tmp that is.
08:46<Paolo>Is there a place where these errors are memorized? Like some kind of log files ...
08:46<amphi>pparadis: I thought that was quite a common way of ensuring that temporary files are not left behind after a crash
08:47<pparadis>this does not sound like a debian issue. it sounds like an issue with whatever program you are running on debian.
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08:47<Paolo>Yes, maybe there are some errors in my script.
08:47<pparadis>amphi: ?
08:48<Paolo>But are those errors written to some kind of log files?
08:48<pparadis>Paolo: we didn't write your script.
08:48<amphi>pparadis: opening a file and deleting it while retaining a descriptor
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08:48<Paolo>Ok thanks.
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08:50<pparadis>amphi: that is not going to do what you're describing.
08:51<amphi>pparadis: eh? the program can keep reading and writing it, but the file will be unlinked when the process terminates, regardless of how it terminates, no?
08:51<pparadis>ah i see what you mean now
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08:53<pparadis>my earlier observation was speaking to the fact that in his case, said file continues to grow and grow, and since he indicated the "cure" is to restart the process, the presumption is that he's quite possibly intending to really delete the file at a certain point, but hanging on to the descriptor and thus it's not going away.
08:54<pparadis>but in any event, yeah, we didn't write that script. :)
08:54<amphi>ah, right
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08:56<user>ciao
08:56<user>help
08:57<pparadis>!ask
08:57<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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08:57<Guest1843>speak italian_
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08:57<pparadis>!it
08:57<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
08:57<Guest1843>ok
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09:26<MadrMan>hello, i just installed debian and im trying to get the official ati drivers to work, i think it installed them correctly but am now getting a segfault when X starts
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09:27<MadrMan>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/cb0b60e4/
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09:29<babilen>MadrMan: How did you install them?
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09:29<MadrMan>grabbed the installer from the amd site for the latest 12.4 drivers and ran it
09:30<babilen>MadrMan: And how did you configure Xorg? Please note that the open-source radeon driver is typically preferable and works perfectly for a plethora of cards. See "/msg dpkg radeon" for a discussion of that.
09:30<MadrMan>i believe opencl and such isnt available for the open-source driver
09:31<babilen>MadrMan: We neither recommend nor support amd.com's installer. It looks as if your configuration is wrong though ("No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@5:0:1) found"), but I have no idea what is wrong. The Debian Way to install fglrx is detailed in "/msg dpkg fglrx dkms", but I would still strongly recommend the free radeon driver.
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09:32<MadrMan>right, i wanted to install fglrx-driver but it doesnt appear to be in the repo for me
09:32<MadrMan>using the wheezy repo
09:33<babilen>MadrMan: See also: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/XserverDebugging but you really want to either install the drivers "The Debian Way"™ or ask in #ati on irc.freenode.net for help. Note that a /etc/X11/xorg.conf is typically not used these days and that a minimal .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d as detailed in "/msg dpkg fglrx dkms" is all that is needed.
09:34<babilen>MadrMan: You need to enable non-free for that. Just make sure that your "deb" entries in /etc/apt/sources.list end in "main contrib non-free" and then follow the instructions in "/msg dpkg fglrx dkms" -- Please also note that testing/unstable is supported in #debian-next
09:35<pparadis>babilen: fglrx-driver does not appear to be in wheezy.
09:35<babilen>,v fglrx-driver
09:35<judd>Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:8-12-4; lenny-backports/non-free: 1:10-4-1~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3; sid/non-free: 1:12-4-1
09:36<babilen>Ah, right. It must have been removed due to (wait a minute for me to dig up the bug report) -- You can probably pull it from sid (with a setup such as "/msg dpkg tum")
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09:38<dvs>pparadis: fglrx is not compatible with the new xorg server
09:38<babilen>^^^ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671320
09:38<pparadis>nod, i'm just noting that he's running wheezy, and it isn't in wheezy (for the above reason), and this probably matters to him :)
09:38<tweek>i'm getting an input/output error on a volume. the volume is ext3 on lvm on crypto container. smart status says pass, badblocks on the partition with the crypto container is running. i've had IO errors with this disk before when it was still formatted with ntfs (always fixed by unmounting and remounting). what sort of problem do you guys think this is, is the disk failing?
09:38<babilen>Yeah -- AFAICT no chance to use fglrx on xorg 1.12 right now
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09:42<terceiro>hi, I am trying to recover a Debian server with / on a LVM volume on top of a RAID5 array; after a power failure, the fsck on / always freezes at 10.9%. any ideas?
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09:49<abdifatah>hey
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09:53<bzed>terceiro: is the raid synced again completely?
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10:05<Eclife>Hello
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10:08<kardan>greetings, where can I get help to get my HSPA usb stick running? (model k3765-Z). already searched for it but i am confused of (outdated?) howtos. Thanks!
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10:15<terceiro>bzed: the raid is fine; I was able to mount it using a live CD; there is no physical problem. I was also able to boot the actual system using "fastboot" in the kernek cmdline to skip fsck, but ended up finding out that the disk is full. Could that be the cause of fsck hanging?
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10:17<bzed>terceiro: hmm, I doubt that... but are you sure that fsck actually hangs or does it just take a longish time to finish?
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10:21<terceiro>bzed: fsck stops at 10.9% for a very long time every time; before that the progress indicator increases more or less smoothly
10:22<terceiro>i can force a reboot at that point, though
10:22<terceiro>so it does not freeze the system
10:22<bzed>terceiro: take a live system and run the fschk from there, and if it "hangs" use strace to see if it really hangs
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10:23<terceiro>bzed: I did run fsck from a live system, and it also stopped at 10.9% just like in the actual system; do you think a strace might still be helpful?
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10:28<bzed>terceiro: yeah, put strace on the pid when it hangs to see what is actually happening
10:28<terceiro>bzed: ok, will try it
10:29<bzed>terceiro: also are you sure that your raid is done with re-syncing?
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10:30<terceiro>bzed: as I undertand from http://paste.debian.net/hidden/63e0e710/ it seems to be
10:31<bzed>yeah that looks okay
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10:39<pparadis>everybody, i'd just like to point out that any time anybody pokes fun at debian release names, we can always say at least our latest isn't called "beefy miracle." that is all.
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10:54<lduros>if you build FF using: ac_add_options --disable-system-extension-dirs is there still a way to have extensions installed/enabled by default?
10:54<babilen>pparadis: The knowledge that there will eventually be a "Debian troll" release provides me with hours of joy ;)
10:54<lduros>I want extensions on the rest of the system not to be enabled/installed (like ubufox) but I still want to add some extensions by default with it
10:54<lduros>oups
10:54<lduros>thati s the wrong chan\
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11:01<lduros>anybody having trouble fetching remote packages? I get this: 0% [Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (2610:148:1f10:3::89)]
11:01<lduros>and it stays like that
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11:01<sney>can you ping the mirror?
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11:02*babilen guesses ipv4 vs ipv6
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11:09<terceiro>bzed: it seems to be in a busy infinite loop, actually: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f52cd6cf/
11:09<terceiro>any ideas?
11:10<terceiro>or is that normal, given that is a 1.8T filesystem?
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11:10<terceiro>the werid thing is that the progress indicator is stuck at 10.9%
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11:11<Guest1853>I bought a new ssd drive for my pc and wonder now does kernel from squeeze support it? Is it new enough to support trim?
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11:13<arthurb>Hi all, I'm trying to use xen with debian as a dom0. I'm getting a bit stuck because virsh won't connect to the hypervisor on localhost:8000. Has anyone experience with this?
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11:16<terceiro>bzed: the progress actually went over 10.9% now, so it was just a matter of patience
11:16<bzed>terceiro: I would wait for some hours
11:16<terceiro>thanks for your help
11:16<bzed>:)
11:16<bzed>you are welcome
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11:19<arthurb>(fixed needed to enable unix-server in xen config)
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11:24<oldereagle>after migrating from Lenny to Squeeze I can not get MySQL running. apt-get dist-upgrade says (translating from Norwegian): "mysql-server requires mysql-server5.1 but mysql-server5.1 is not set up yet".....
11:24<sney>oldereagle, try running 'aptitude -f install
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11:25<oldereagle>sney, just that?
11:25<sney>yes, it attempts to fix broken packages
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11:30<oldereagle>sney, dpkg: error on handling mysql-server (--configure). Dependency problem - will not set up the package. There was errors when setting up mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server
11:30<oldereagle>sorry, all messages are translated into english....
11:30<sney>!localized errors
11:30<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install
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11:34<sney>oldereagle, also:
11:34<sney>!bat
11:34<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
11:36<oldereagle>http://paste.debian.net/171764
11:37<oldereagle>sorry, I did not see your last two mssg.
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12:15<ant>if i use a very old netinstall-cd because i have no possibility of burning the new one, will it still retrieve the new packages from squeeze or does it try to look for old repositories?
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12:16<retrospectacus>ant: it'll look for the old release on the current mirrors; it won't work
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12:17<ant>retrospectacus: ok thats bad, but thank you for the quick reply... :)
12:17<laruana>hi
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12:17<retrospectacus>ant: you can "burn" the new one to a usb stick and install with that, perhaps
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12:17<chealer>ant: how "very old" do you mean?
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12:18<ant>4.0
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12:19<ant>retrospectacus: no empty usb around here, but that would be an option thx
12:19<babilen>ant: That is ancient and won't work. Why can't you "burn" a new netinstall CD? Do you have access to USB thumb drives? What hardware *do* you have access to?
12:19<chealer>ant: you won't be able to install than the base system with an etch netinst CD. you'd then need to upgrade to lenny and then to squeeze, which will most likely be more painful than getting a new installation medium
12:19<babilen>+1
12:19<themill>!rube goldberg install
12:19<dpkg>"Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke."
12:19<chealer>s/install than/install more than/
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12:20<ant>:)
12:20<ant>chealer: ok thx
12:20<ant>babilen: old cd, that's all i got right now... so i have to postpone install until i have some medium to put it on :)
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12:25<Banonym>Kennt jemand Bilderberger
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12:30<noah>hi guys
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12:46<D3bash3r>hi2all
12:47<retrospectacus>hello
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12:51<luiz_>hola amigos
12:51<luiz_>eu quero saber como instalar o avira no meu ubuntu
12:51<bhatt>fuck u all
12:52<luiz_>cara nao to afim de bricadeira
12:53<bhatt>fck
12:53<retrospectacus>!ubuntu-es luiz_
12:53<dpkg>luiz_: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
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12:54<bhatt>why
12:54<bhatt>uhuodhchsa
12:54<bhatt>dhsdohchdsnc
12:54<bhatt>bhujdhcuhdsohc
12:54<bhatt>bfhbvuifbv
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12:54<luiz_>no limit in park sk8 e nois
12:54<luiz_>holar amigos como faso para instalar o avira no meu ubuntu
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12:55<retrospectacus>luiz_: Ubuntu no es Debian,Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
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12:56<luiz_>e sim debian
12:56<jchen>!ubuntu-es
12:56<dpkg>Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
12:56<retrospectacus>Solo Debian es soportado en #debian
12:56<oldereagle>After upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze MySQL does not start. Here are some details:
12:56<oldereagle>apt-get dist-upgrade: http://paste.debian.net/171785
12:56<oldereagle>apt-cache policy: http://paste.debian.net/171779
12:56<oldereagle>apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.1: http://paste.debian.net/171781
12:57<oldereagle>apt-cache policy mysql-server: http://paste.debian.net/171784
12:57<retrospectacus>!squeeze mysql
12:57<dpkg>Following an upgrade from lenny to squeeze, the "mysql-server-5.1" package is often not installed as a replacement to "mysql-server-5.0". "aptitude install mysql-server-5.1"; you may also need to update any customisations to your server configuration from 5.0 to 5.1 -- one common problem is the inclusion of the no-longer-supported "skip-bdb" option in my.cnf which leads to the daemon failing to start (and dpkg and apt complaining).
12:57<babilen>!tell oldereagle -about mysql squeeze
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12:57<luiz_>fala portugues
12:58<luiz_>brazil
12:58<retrospectacus>!ubuntu-br
12:58<dpkg>Este canal e para suportar o Debian em Ingles. Por favor, /server irc.freenode.net depois /join #ubuntu-br.
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12:58<retrospectacus>oldereagle: I think you need to run mysql_upgrade or some such command
12:58<luiz_>fui expuso
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13:04<oldereagle>after reming skip-bdb I now get "Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.." when i do /etc/init.d/mysql restart
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13:04<retrospectacus>it always says that
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13:05<oldereagle>Ah. MySQL is back :)
13:05<retrospectacus>it's a good thing ;) don't you think?
13:05<oldereagle>feel much better already.
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13:12<D3bash3r>А я водитель НЛО :)
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13:12<retrospectacus>!ru
13:12<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
13:13<D3bash3r>Ок
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13:14<ZaRiuS>i think need put russian fonts
13:15<ZaRiuS>*i need
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13:21<oldereagle>retrospectacus, thanks for helping
13:21<oldereagle>babilen, thanks for helping
13:21<retrospectacus>sure thing
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13:25<dannys>!gr
13:25<dpkg>Gia voitheia sta ellinika dokimaste to #debian.gr & to #debian-el (irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net). For help in Greek try #debian.gr or #debian-el (irc.oftc.net or irc.freenode.net).
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13:36<AlexLikeRock>hola amigos !
13:36<AlexLikeRock>hi guys !
13:36<retrospectacus>hello again. Did you fix your system or reinstall?
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13:39<ZaRiuS>retrospectacus, ?
13:39<ZaRiuS>what you want?
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13:40<retrospectacus>ZaRiuS: ? I was talking to AlexLikeRock, he was here yesterday
13:40<ZaRiuS>ok
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13:41<AlexLikeRock>yesterday had little time, but now i begin with attempts to repair.
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13:47<retrospectacus>AlexLikeRock: like everyone told you yesterday, you cannot repair, you need to reinstall. It's not going to change today
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13:50<WakiMiko>im running sid on my laptop and since a recent update (dunno exactly when or which package) the laptop is trying to optain an ip address on eth0 via dhcp during boot even if no cable is connected.
13:51<WakiMiko>this didnt happen before and delays the boot process by about 1 minute (because there is no dhcp answer) until it times out
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13:52<retrospectacus>WakiMiko: check/update the interfaces file. Also sid support is in #debian-next
13:53<WakiMiko>oh ok sorry. interfaces file has the following:
13:53<WakiMiko>allow-hotplug eth0
13:53<WakiMiko>iface eth0 inet dhcp
13:53<WakiMiko>i guess commending out the dhcp line would do the trick?
13:54<retrospectacus>I suppose but then it wouldn't try for an IP when you plug in
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13:54<retrospectacus>that looks like what you want but maybe there's a bug in sid. Ask the other channel
13:55<WakiMiko>alright, thanks for your help
13:55<retrospectacus>sure
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13:58<thehf>hi
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13:58<retrospectacus>hi
13:58<thehf>simple question, i want to connect my debian box (Xvnc4server) from work, but i dont trust my network at work
13:58<thehf>VNC is tunneld over SSH
13:59<thehf>and is run as different user
13:59<thehf>is there any other things i have to worry about if some1 gets my user password?
14:00<retrospectacus>what are you doing that you need VNC for? Best way is to just use ssh
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14:01<thehf>VNC is tunneld over SSH. VNC client -> local port -> SSH Tunnel -> SSH server -> forward from local server port to vnc server
14:01<thehf>i want to work for my own projects at work :-)
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14:03<thehf>i am sure its not possible to any one at this company to decrypt my VNC/SSH session, but... if someone gets my user password, how is it possible for him to get root access?
14:04<retrospectacus>if you use silly ubuntu-style sudo, they're the same :P
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14:04<thehf>hehe, eeehm
14:05<JacobF>How do I go about getting my lib in official repositories?
14:05<thehf>i am not going to type my root password at work, so the only password they can log (by keylogger) is my VNC user password
14:05<retrospectacus>!tell JacobF about nmg
14:06<JacobF>thanks, reading
14:06<thehf>btw, if i do a chmod og-rwx /home/user i cant access this entire directory by another group?
14:06<retrospectacus>thehf: right
14:07<thehf>excellent
14:07<thehf>i think debian creates a new group for every user..
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14:08<dondelelcaro>thehf: by default, but that's configurable
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14:44<AlexLikeRock>yuhuuu !
14:44<AlexLikeRock>we fix my PC
14:45<AlexLikeRock>marcfp help me
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14:51<scientes>why do web browsers try to be operating systems today?
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14:52<retrospectacus>because software devs want their code to be on their servers, not your PC
14:52<daemonkeeper>Did you know, the Internet is the web?
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14:53<retrospectacus>so they can keep track of you and make sure you stay in line
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14:54<oldereagle>I have run an upgrade via SSH using screen, and I am now finished. Should I disable screen in any way, or can i just exit SSH?
14:56<retrospectacus>you could end that screen session (usually just by Ctrl-D) but you needn't uninstall it if that's what you were thinking.
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15:39<vassalli>hi
15:39<vassalli>debian server 6.0 download
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15:47<babilen>vassalli: → http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ -- See also "/msg dpkg ig"
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16:12<vassalli>intel pentium dual core
16:12<vassalli>32 bit
16:12<vassalli>amd64armelkfreebsd-i386kfreebsd-amd64i386ia64mipsmipselpowerpcsparcs390sourcemulti-arch
16:12<vassalli>386i
16:12<vassalli>ok
16:12<vassalli>server
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16:40<Guest1896>tiziano ferro
16:40<daemonkeeper>Eros Ramazotti
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16:40<daemonkeeper>(we're guessing Italian singers, right?)
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17:22<oslo>hello
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17:22<Guest1902>hello
17:22<Guest1902>Im noob
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17:23<oslo>you have problem?
17:23<Guest1902>and I need information about this>rm /mnt/projekat1
17:23<Guest1902>rm /mnt/projekat1/*
17:23<Guest1902>rm -r /mnt/projekat1/*
17:23<Guest1902>rm -r /mnt/projekat1/
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17:24<Marko_>sorry for that before
17:25<oslo>ok
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17:25<Marko_>I need help about next things and what exactly they mean
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17:25<Marko_>rm /mnt/project1
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17:25<Marko_>rm /mnt/project1/*
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17:25<Marko_>rm -r /mnt/project1/*
17:25<Marko_>rm -r /mnt/project1/
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17:26<Marko_>first line is deleting file projcect
17:26<Marko_>?
17:26<perlwizard>did you understand why you were kicked ?
17:26<Marko_>ctrl +v ?
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17:26<perlwizard>yes
17:27<perlwizard>so why'd you do that again
17:27<Marko_>now i Wrote all this
17:27<Marko_>not paste
17:27<perlwizard>... you think it somehow matters?
17:27<AlexLikeRock> bye guys
17:27<Marko_>it doesnt?
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17:28<perlwizard>it doesn't. use a pastebin for > 1 lines of logs/code
17:28<Gunman1982>Marko_ do a 'man rm' it tells you what rm does and what the option -r is for ... * is a wildcard which stands for any character
17:29<Marko_>r is for recursive
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17:29<Marko_>I know that
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17:29<Gunman1982>then what is your question?!
17:29<Marko_>well i had first exam
17:30<Marko_>and he put that 4 diffrent lines
17:30<Marko_>and teahcer try to confuse me
17:30<Marko_>and he did
17:30<Marko_>:D
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17:31<devil>why don't you guys get a room?
17:31*sekt0r Marko_: and then? what is your question?
17:32<perlwizard>Marko_ `man rm` for answer to all questions and more.
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17:33<babilen>!tell Marko_ -about general cli tutorial
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17:34<babilen>Marko_: You probably also want to read http://debian-handbook.info/ and play with those commands (but don't delete data you'd like to keep)
17:35<rgms>Hi. Apparently there is a bad vulnerability in php5. I'm currently using wheezy and wondering if I'm vulnerable. Could someone please point me where I could check whether my php5 version (5.4.0-3) is vulnerable?
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17:35<babilen>rgms: What's the CVE
17:36<rgms>hold on for a sec, pelase
17:36<babilen>rgms: Or just check http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/php5
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17:38<rgms>CVE-2012-1823
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17:39<babilen>rgms: Yeah, you are still vulnerable. (cf. http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2012-1823) -- You are in fact vulnerable to *all* open issues listed there, but most have been fixed in unstable and stable-security.
17:40<rgms>ouch
17:40<babilen>rgms: You can either pull in the package from unstable (read "/msg dpkg tum" for a short description of that approach) or you can wait for the package to transition from unstable. Testing has, as of now, no security support whatsoever and I sincerely hope that you are not running a production system with it.
17:41<babilen>But you are probably well aware of that.
17:42<rgms>a couple of personal servers only
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17:47<MaNu_TKD>Hola
17:47<oslo>hola
17:47<oslo>salut
17:47<MaNu_TKD>Tu eres español¿
17:47<daemonkeeper>!es
17:47<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
17:47<rgms>any ideas how to proceed? How to check for damages?
17:48<MaNu_TKD>Entonces tu cuando meas erutas no?
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18:15<vadim>hi everyone
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18:16<vadim>got a question - how can I make the script run at startup of X?
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18:18<kolera>Old school used to be ~/.xinitrc but these days I'm not sure anymore.
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18:19<kolera>Be careful with ~/.xinitrc you can break X starting up.
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18:20<retrospectacus>use your DM's session manager ("startup applications" menu item in gnome2)
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18:21<vadim>ok. thanks i'll try it.the fact is that I've got problems with my touchpad - not registering taps. I made a script, which I'm running every time I boot into X to solve this problem
18:24<babilen>vadim: What kind of touchpad? Could you paste that script? It sounds as if something along the lines of http://paste.debian.net/171834/ in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/25-synaptics.conf would be a better solution. (See also "/msg dpkg touchpad" "/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d") -- Read "man synaptics" for a discussion of suitable options.
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18:25<vadim>I've got acer aspire one a150. I wrote script like this: synclient TapButton1=1 etc.
18:28<vadim>unfortunately I don't have xorg.conf.d folder under /etc/X11
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18:29<retrospectacus>create it
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18:30<vadim>well, I've got another here /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf . Isn't it the same?
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18:32<retrospectacus>not sure about that. Mine's in /etc/X11
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18:42<vadim>the modification of configuration file for synaptics didn't work, but adding my script to autorun on boot worked perfectly, thanks anyway
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19:08<rgms>HI. I've been running a vulnerable version of php5, which allows arbitary code execution, on wheezy for almost a month now. Any ideas where to start looking for possible damages and whether the bug has been exploited?
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19:45<chealer>rgms: you could ask a consultant
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19:46<rgms>too complicated?
19:46<rgms>how about grepping my apache access logs?
19:47<ml|>or not run a testing server on the net and keeping your system updated ;)
19:48<abrotman>ml|: stop with the logic
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19:48<ml|>heh
19:49<rgms>well wheezy simply didn't simply have a patch for that
19:50<themill>testing doesn't get (good) security support
19:50<retrospectacus>it's a testing distribution.... use stable if you want stability (security)
19:50<ml|>yep, the updated comment was in general
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19:51<ml|>like retrospectacus just said
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19:52<retrospectacus>when I saw rgms mention the vuln. I upgraded all my servers which ofc run stable
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19:52<rgms>so any guesses how likely is that someone bad has happened?
19:52<rgms>and how bad?
19:53<rgms>been running stuff like w and last and rkhunter like crazy
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19:53<abrotman>rgms: do you even have logs for a month ?
19:53<rgms>yes
19:56<rgms>https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=13312
19:56<rgms>my access logs don't include any of those commands. Can I take a breath now?
19:57<rgms>except one, which was made by nessus
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20:00<rgms>actually found another
20:00<rgms>[12/May/2012:15:35:57 +0300] "POST //?-d+allow_url_include%3d1+-d+auto_prepend_file%3dphp://input+-d+safe_mode%3d1+-d+suhosin.simulation%3d1+-d+disable_functions%3d%22%22+-d+open_basedir%3dnone+-n HTTP/1.1" 200 9622 "-" "-"
20:00<rgms>what does that do actually?
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20:02<retrospectacus>probably tries to run the POST data with the auto_prepend_file directive
20:02<retrospectacus>I'd ask irc://irc.freenode.net/##php though
20:04<rgms>seems like an invite-only channel
20:04<retrospectacus>you need to be registered&identified... /msg nickserv help
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20:08<techegek>can anyone help with this error i'm getting trying to run rsync to setup a mirror?
20:08<techegek>Unexpected remote arg: ftp.us.debian.org::debian
20:08<techegek>rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1201) [sender=3.0.6]
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20:09<retrospectacus>techegek: what was the command you ran?
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20:09<techegek>i'm using the ftpsync script from the guide
20:09<techegek>i can pastebin the command though
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20:10<abrotman>that'd be helpful
20:10<techegek>http://paste.debian.net/plain/171851
20:10<techegek>that's what the script gives when i run ./ftpsync
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20:11<techegek>if i run ./typicalsync i get a bunch of these: rsync: link_stat "pool/main/a/advi/advi_1.9.0-3+b1_mipsel.deb" (in debian) failed: No such file or directory (2)
20:13<retrospectacus>kinda sounds like the mirror is being updated
20:14<techegek>it's been doing that for a few hours
20:16<techegek>would the config be helpful for ftpsync?
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20:20<rgms>Am I required to have php5-cgi installed to be vulnerable for the following vulnerability: http://eindbazen.net/2012/05/php-cgi-advisory-cve-2012-1823/ ?
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20:21<techegek>i would assume so
20:21<techegek>but i'm not sure
20:24<rgms>Is there a way I can check the input that was given with the injection?
20:24<techegek>no clue
20:26<techegek>we're talking about a call from a webserver?
20:26<techegek>i would check the access logs in that case
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20:27<kop>rgms: Check out security.debian.org and look at the CVE database. (I think that's where it is.)
20:27<retrospectacus>rgms: POST data? no.
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20:28<kop>!cve lookup cve-2012-1823
20:28<dpkg>Information about the security advisory cve-2012-1823 may be found at http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/cve-2012-1823
20:28<retrospectacus>rgms: you can see that your apache responded 200 (OK) and sent 9622 bytes in response
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20:29<rgms>what does that mean?
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20:31<retrospectacus>just that... no 404 or 500 errors
20:31<retrospectacus>if your "/" page (index) is about 9622 bytes then it probably didn't do anything
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20:33<kop>rgms: For more detail see RFC 2616.
20:33<kop>!tell rgms about rfc
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21:26<techegek>Can someone assist me with setting up a Debian mirror?
21:26<pparadis>techegek: are you trying to set up a real mirror, or a local apt cache?
21:27<techegek>real mirror
21:27<pparadis>http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror
21:27<techegek>i've been trying ftpmirror
21:27<techegek>it's not working at all
21:27<abrotman>techegek: we asked you for the command and error awhile ago .. don't recall seeing a paste ?
21:27<techegek>i pasted one
21:27<techegek>http://paste.debian.net/plain/171851
21:28<abrotman>techegek: uhm, how many systems is this for ?
21:29*abrotman doesn't see an error
21:30<techegek>what do you mean how many systems?
21:30<pparadis>please excuse my ignorance, because i've only ever set up local network apt repositories as caches, but do all those excludes mean all those architectures aren't being mirrored?
21:30<techegek>correct
21:31<techegek>i'm just mirroring i386 and amd64
21:31<pparadis>alrighty
21:31<pparadis>so yeah, what is it not doing?
21:31<techegek>Unexpected remote arg: ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu::debian
21:31<techegek>rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1201) [sender=3.0.6]
21:31<techegek>that comes up every time
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21:36<techegek>no one?
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21:41<pparadis>techegek: looking at that rsync command, "-p" is for preserving permissions.
21:41<techegek>i didn't write the script
21:41<abrotman>techegek: how many systems would use the mirror?
21:41<techegek>it's just the ftpsync script that the page says to use
21:42<techegek>abrotman, no idea, i'm hoping to get it listed as a mirror
21:42<techegek>there doesn't appear to be any in texas
21:42<abrotman>techegek: do you realize how much bandwidth you'd consume?
21:42<pparadis>never mind on my previous note, i read the options wrong.
21:42<techegek>i have unmetered bw
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21:43<techegek>gigabit uplinking
21:44<techegek>so that's not really an issue
21:45<abrotman>techegek: are you sure your ISP feels the same way? :)
21:46<techegek>this server is in a datacenter
21:46<abrotman>just because they allow gigabit, doesn't mean they actually want you to sit at a gigabit
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21:46<abrotman>you still have an ISP
21:46<techegek>i'm aware
21:46<techegek>it is gigabit speeds, i've tested
21:46<abrotman>missed my point ..
21:46<techegek>apparently
21:46<pparadis>you really have _unmetered_ gigabit?
21:47<techegek>yes?
21:47<pparadis>as in no transfer cap?
21:47<pparadis>no percentile billing?
21:47<techegek>yes?
21:47<pparadis>that has got to be rather pricey.
21:47<abrotman>then why not mirror all of the repository ?
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21:47<dondelelcaro>techegek: first, why are you rsyncing from ftp.us.debian.org?
21:47<techegek>not really
21:47<techegek>abrotman, disk space
21:47<scientes>abrotman, errr
21:47<scientes>apt-cacher-ng
21:47<scientes>apt-cacher-ng
21:47<techegek>dondelelcaro, i changed it
21:47<scientes>^^what you want
21:47<abrotman>scientes: why are you telling me ?
21:47<abrotman>scientes: i prefer approx
21:48<scientes>well i havn't tried approx
21:48<abrotman>maybe you should
21:48<scientes>apt-cacher-ng has always worked for me
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21:48<abrotman>techegek: i still didn't see the error in your paste ?
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21:48<techegek>someone wanted to see the command
21:48<techegek>the actual error is something else
21:48<abrotman>techegek: and there's a mirror at utexas.edu
21:48<techegek>Unexpected remote arg: ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu::debian
21:48<techegek>rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1201) [sender=3.0.6]
21:48<abrotman>techegek: http://ftp.utexas.edu/debian/
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21:50<techegek>look - i'm not here to get critized, i'm just asking for help is all
21:50<techegek>criticized*
21:50<abrotman>i was just sharing :)
21:51<techegek>so does anyone have any idea what might be causing that or am i wasting my time with this group of people?
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21:51<pparadis>well, it's an rsync syntax error, we know that much.
21:51<abrotman>techegek: try a different mirrro, like that utexas mirror ?
21:51<techegek>i did
21:51<techegek>same error
21:52<techegek>i got it from ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu and ftp.us.debian.org
21:53<dondelelcaro>techegek: ok; what does your etc/ftpsync.conf have in it?
21:53<techegek>i can pastebin if you want
21:53<dondelelcaro>techegek: please.
21:53<pparadis>perhaps this is relevant --> http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/2010/09/msg00040.html
21:54<techegek>http://paste.debian.net/171859/
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21:55<techegek>sorry, too many spam PMs on another net
21:55<dondelelcaro>techegek: it would really be helpful if you hadn't inserted linebreaks
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21:55<dondelelcaro>techegek: the output of grep -v '^#' etc/ftpsync.conf; will also do
21:57<techegek>http://paste.debian.net/171860/
21:57<techegek>better?
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21:59<dondelelcaro>techegek: yes. first off; you don't need to set the values when they're already set to the defaults.... secondly, how are you calling ftpsync?
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21:59<techegek>./ftpsync
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21:59<techegek>./ftpsync sync:all does the same thing
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22:00<dondelelcaro>techegek: ah; what version of rsync are you running?
22:00<techegek>rsync version 3.0.6 protocol version 30
22:01<dondelelcaro>techegek: ok; does rsync --list-only ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu::debian; work?
22:01<techegek>one sec
22:02<techegek>it's actually rsync.gtlib
22:02<techegek>but yes it does
22:02<techegek>i'm mirroring centoss off of it fine
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22:03<dondelelcaro>hrm; well, it should work then... anyway, I'm out. Good luck.
22:03<techegek>thanks i guess
22:03<techegek>i'm out too for now
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22:07<blackwolfy>comment sa marche ce programme? et aussi est-ce qu'il y à quelqu'un qui parle en français?
22:07<abrotman>whoa ..
22:07<abrotman>!fr
22:07<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
22:09<blackwolfy>merci. thank you
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22:43<DragonDon-GTab>What is the package name for using pastebin as a switch on the cli?
22:43<abrotman>pastebinit
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22:54<DragonDon-GTab>Thanks, got it. My ati driver dropped as I seem to have no valid displays anymore. Trying to fix, ran into http://paste.debian.net/171864, do you think that this will be a good solution? http://askubuntu.com/questions/129597/how-do-i-fix-my-installation-of-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-in-12-04-lts
22:54<abrotman>DragonDon-GTab: in wheezy?
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22:56<DragonDon-GTab>Sigh, i am reltively new to linix so I can neither remeber the name of the version I am using nor the command to find the name.....
22:56<abrotman>DragonDon-GTab: what is uname -r ?
22:57<DragonDon-GTab>That I know. 3.2.0-2-686-pae
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22:57<abrotman>right, so the Xorg 1.12 that is now in wheezy/sid is incompatible with fglrx .. i'm not sure what the work around is
22:58<abrotman>DragonDon-GTab: you can try to ask #debian-next .. but most in there are sleeping, you might have to wait awhile
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22:58<DragonDon-GTab>Really? No fix? That would kinda suck if all I have is a 6-core/8GB terminal emulator :/
22:59<abrotman>well, should be a speedy terminal? :)
22:59<DragonDon-GTab>Yeah,beinginSouth Korea makes it hard some time.....thank abrotman
22:59<abrotman>DragonDon-GTab: honestly, i don't use nvidia or ati, so i can't be much help
22:59<DragonDon-GTab>Heh
22:59<abrotman>DragonDon-GTab: if you ask now, leave it running, you might have an answer in a few hours
23:00<abrotman>DragonDon-GTab: alternately, send an email to the debian-user mailing list
23:00<DragonDon-GTab>Ok,will pop overthere....forgot to set up the '-next' on my GTab irc client
23:01<abrotman>good luck
23:02<DragonDon-GTab>Thanks
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23:02<DragonDon-GTab>Heh, it figures, this happened right before I left for vacation huh.....well, bamck now, timeto fix it
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23:44<grubpains>is there an os-prober for debian?
23:44<ml|>,v os-prober
23:44<judd>Package: os-prober on i386 -- lenny: 1.28; squeeze: 1.42; sid: 1.53; wheezy: 1.53
23:45<ml|>apt-cache search is your friend ;)
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23:51<coreyb>anyone know how to 'patch' minidlna?
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23:54<justin_>I'm getting "mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted" when trying to mount. The mount works on the lan but if the client is outside the lan it gives that error.
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